Re: [MBZ] oil grade for m119

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

No, they came with a 2.24 in the US. 2.65 in Europe. The 500e came with a
2.82, but it starts in 2nd gear. The e420 starts in 1st gear due to the
tall 2.24 diff. Switch that to a 2.82 and you suddenly have a lot of wheel
torque 0-50 mph or so in 1st gear. Feels a bit like an electric car off the
line. Doesnt make much racket; just goes. 11:1 compression.

I have a 2.65 lsd in the wagon now. It will be fun to see if it is traction
limited with the new 606 turbo setup.

On Wed, Dec 4, 2019, 9:49 PM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 21:35:08 -0800 Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > Yes. His comment was "that car has a really low first gear!" My mother
> > spilled the beans about the stoplight drags. They are 77 this year, so I
> > guess no one is expecting anything to happen.
>
> Our '94 E420 had a lot of "get up and go", too. I once stopped in the
> road by the Los Alamos Golf Course (with no one else around!) and jammed
> the go pedal to the floor to show Shirley what it would do. Impressive.
>
> Is the the 2.82 diff the standard ratio?
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] oil grade for m119

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 21:35:08 -0800 Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Yes. His comment was "that car has a really low first gear!" My mother
> spilled the beans about the stoplight drags. They are 77 this year, so I
> guess no one is expecting anything to happen.

Our '94 E420 had a lot of "get up and go", too. I once stopped in the
road by the Los Alamos Golf Course (with no one else around!) and jammed
the go pedal to the floor to show Shirley what it would do. Impressive.

Is the the 2.82 diff the standard ratio?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] oil grade for m119

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Yes. His comment was "that car has a really low first gear!" My mother
spilled the beans about the stoplight drags. They are 77 this year, so I
guess no one is expecting anything to happen.

On Wed, Dec 4, 2019, 12:44 PM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 10:04:32 -0800 Karl W via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > My father is reliving his misspent youth in our e420 with the 2.82 diff
> > this week and noticed the oil pressure is low at idle. It is only
> > halfway down the stick but I figured I would send him to get it
> > changed. What oil do you guys run in these v8s? I am thinking 10w40 due
> > to the cool 50 degree weather we are having, rather than 15-50 or
> > whatever.
>
> U ... 0W-40.
>
>
> > Valvoline instant oil change did not have a filter for it, so I sent him
> > driving around indy shops as my mechanic is not an "instant" kind of
> > guy. As far as I know he is still out there, dusting motorcycles at
> > traffic lights until the rear end breaks loose.
>
> Reliving his misspent youth, as you said ...
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Accident

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

No. Everything he wrote is below.
Gerry

On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 17:23:27 -0600
Randy Bennell via Mercedes  wrote:

> Have you any idea what sort of vehicle hit him?
> 
> Randy
> 
> On 04/12/2019 5:08 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:
> > Here is a description of an accident, parts of which, might be of interest 
> > to some members of this group.
> >
> > A SoCal resident wrote:
> >> Well, my 2015 Plug-In was totalled by a driver while I made a left turn on 
> >> a left arrow. My car was pushed around about 90 degrees. Front right 
> >> crushed (suspension seemed unharmed!), Left quarter panel pushed out so 
> >> that it blocked the driver's door from opening more than a third of the 
> >> way (getting out was a challenge). All of the airbags deployed, which may 
> >> have saved me from hitting my head on the side window, but ran up the 
> >> damage total like crazy (the steering wheel tearing open really adds to 
> >> the expense, and headliners are just so pricey ... Body shop declared it 
> >> totalled without bothering to open the hood because the obvious damage was 
> >> so expensive. State Farm was great to work with, paid quickly and at what 
> >> my research said was a very fair price. Apparently, it was a Prius Plug-In 
> >> Advanced, which I didn't know, and was considered to have some vast number 
> >> of options, which I think were actually standard.
> >>
> >> The only problem with State Farm was that the first people I worked with 
> >> said that I had to get the video from the external cameras on the parking 
> >> structure that I was turning into. Mall security said they only turned 
> >> over recordings to the police. When I went to the LAPD station (parking 
> >> half a mile away because the situation is insane), they refused to even 
> >> take a report, much less do anything to get the video. Wish it was our 
> >> tiny Town next to LAX, where the police aren't so busy and would have 
> >> happily written a letter. (When I lost a set of my wife's car keys, a 
> >> detective took my call.)
> >>
> >> My only injury was skin scrapped off the back of my right hand, apparently 
> >> by the rough surface of the steering wheel airbag. I had some lower back 
> >> stiffness in the afternoon, buy it went away by bedtime. Then the muscles 
> >> connecting my neck to my shoulders (sides) just really stuff and sore 
> >> overnight and I had to take some ibuprofen in the middle of the night. 
> >> However, that was gone by morning. I did feel my brain bounce around a 
> >> little inside my skull during the acceleration from the impact, but not 
> >> the slightest sign of concussion.
> >>
> >> Overall, I'm really, really pleased with the crash safety of the Prius.
> >>
> >> The big frustration of all this? The other guy wouldn't talk to State Farm 
> >> and his insurance company didn't even respond to State Farm! So, the whole 
> >> thing is still in subrogation and I'm still waiting and hoping to get my 
> >> deductible back.
> > Gerry
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Re: [MBZ] Moron? Mental illness? Drug use?

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Yes

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[MBZ] Moron? Mental illness? Drug use?

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

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Re: [MBZ] Sprinter Reliability

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 15:43:50 -0800 Kevin Kraly via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Hi, Craig. Are you saying that this guy, based on his experience with
> his Sprinter, felt that it wasn’t very reliable, and couldn’t trust
> them for his fleet?

No, I am not.

What I am saying is he did not want to trust a Sprinter to a driver he
does not know exhaustively and who, driving something not his own, would
not care about taking good care of it.


> I’ve read about Transit van problems as well, like being rust prone,
> poor fit and finish, driveshaft carrier bearing issues, and oil
> dilution with the EcoBoost V6 engines.

The finish on the one van I saw looked good. I don't know about the
others. I think his has the EcoBoost V6, but I am not sure.


> They do outsell Sprinters 4 to 1.

They are most likely less expensive than Sprinters.


Craig

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[MBZ] Diesel cars 1991

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

When Jeremy had an afro...

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Re: [MBZ] OT Them Hawgs

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Boy that really s*cks, taking a huge risk in going after wild boar and no
reward.

On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 7:33 PM Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
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> Dangerous game!
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of clay
> > via Mercedes
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2019 4:14 PM
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> > Cc: clay 
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Them Hawgs
> >
> > TX should arrange for massed groups of spear hunters to trot around urban
> > areas or places where discharge of firearms would perturb folks.  Bound
> to
> > have much hilarity ensue and make it much more exciting to hunt boar
> with a
> > stick than with full auto AR15
> >
> > clay
> >
> > > On Dec 4, 2019, at 6:24 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > The problem is landowners treating them like game animals instead of
> > vermin.
> > > If you can make good money charging people to hunt pigs, that money
> goes
> > away if pigs are actually depleted in the process.
> > >
> > >> On December 4, 2019 at 7:23 AM Curley McLain via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> BS article.   Much ado about very little.  TX needs to organize pig
> > >> hunts and eliminate the herd to feed prisons, schools etc.
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[MBZ] Mobil 1

[Rick Hawkins Java Letterpress Cycles Photon via Mercedes]

Folks,

I got my Walmart online ordered 4 x 5 qt Mobil 1   0-40 weight motor oil, 
yesterday and today  they were saying 11 December delivery so I guess there 
is no shortage!

Hey, I have a bunch of 123 cars, mostly wagons, ranging from rusted out hulks 
to a ratty limousine, stretched in California, to a couple of quite nice 300td

Where if anywhere is the  market

All are in Athens, Georgia 

Most of the ratty ones belonged to a good friend who died a few weeks ago and 
they are all on my property

I was also already selling this iveco rollback for him  which is super 
rusty and has some bad clutch hydraulics as well as a failing clutch disc  

And there is a spare not rusty iveco truck

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/793626334428215/

There seems to be little market for this junk DESPITE the allegedly $30k 123 
wagon

706-540-3285 if you want to buy anything 



Xx rick
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Re: [MBZ] OT Them Hawgs

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Dangerous game!

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of clay
> via Mercedes
> Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2019 4:14 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: clay 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Them Hawgs
> 
> TX should arrange for massed groups of spear hunters to trot around urban
> areas or places where discharge of firearms would perturb folks.  Bound to
> have much hilarity ensue and make it much more exciting to hunt boar with a
> stick than with full auto AR15
> 
> clay
> 
> > On Dec 4, 2019, at 6:24 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> >
> > The problem is landowners treating them like game animals instead of
> vermin.
> > If you can make good money charging people to hunt pigs, that money goes
> away if pigs are actually depleted in the process.
> >
> >> On December 4, 2019 at 7:23 AM Curley McLain via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> BS article.   Much ado about very little.  TX needs to organize pig
> >> hunts and eliminate the herd to feed prisons, schools etc.
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Re: [MBZ] Accident

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Lol, I got hit in my old 87 300D in the driver's door by a work van (Chevy 3500 
series, fully loaded).  Broke the starter off the engine, punched the strut up 
through the still attached mount, bent the strut 45 degrees, and pushed the 
front of the driver's door in over a foot.

The other three doors open and close, although the front passenger door is now 
half an inch proud of the frame.

I put it in park (engine still running and car still rolling under power), took 
the seat belt off, and climbed over the console and exited via the front 
passenger door.

Quite the ride.
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Re: [MBZ] Sprinter Reliability

[Kevin Kraly via Mercedes]

Hi, Craig. Are you saying that this guy, based on his experience with his 
Sprinter, felt that it wasn’t very reliable, and couldn’t trust them for his 
fleet? I’ve red about Transit van problems as well like being rust prone, poor 
fit and finish, driveshaft carrier bearing issues, and oil dilution with the 
EcoBoost V6 engines. They do outsell Sprinters 4 to 1.
Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
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> On Dec 4, 2019, at 12:40 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 18:15:42 + (UTC) Max Dillon via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> I'd also like to know about Sprinter reliability. Unlike Kevin, I'm a
>> bottom feeder, so considering models about ten years older or more. 
>> Maybe there is an RV forum that has discussions about Sprinters?
> 
> A fellow I know from having my heavy truck work done at The Shop in
> Moriarty has a diesel Sprinter, though I do not know which year. He and
> his wife have been driving it all over the country doing deliveries for
> more than the past year (I forget when he got it).
> 
> When he wanted to expand his fleet and hire drivers to drive the other
> vehicles, he could not depend on the quality of the drivers and opted
> for new gasolin Ford Transit vans. He and one of the guys at The Shop
> took the insides apart and fully insulated them and securely installed
> E-track in the back for securing cargo.
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Accident

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Have you any idea what sort of vehicle hit him?

Randy

On 04/12/2019 5:08 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:

Here is a description of an accident, parts of which, might be of interest to 
some members of this group.

A SoCal resident wrote:

Well, my 2015 Plug-In was totalled by a driver while I made a left turn on a 
left arrow. My car was pushed around about 90 degrees. Front right crushed 
(suspension seemed unharmed!), Left quarter panel pushed out so that it blocked 
the driver's door from opening more than a third of the way (getting out was a 
challenge). All of the airbags deployed, which may have saved me from hitting 
my head on the side window, but ran up the damage total like crazy (the 
steering wheel tearing open really adds to the expense, and headliners are just 
so pricey ... Body shop declared it totalled without bothering to open the hood 
because the obvious damage was so expensive. State Farm was great to work with, 
paid quickly and at what my research said was a very fair price. Apparently, it 
was a Prius Plug-In Advanced, which I didn't know, and was considered to have 
some vast number of options, which I think were actually standard.

The only problem with State Farm was that the first people I worked with said 
that I had to get the video from the external cameras on the parking structure 
that I was turning into. Mall security said they only turned over recordings to 
the police. When I went to the LAPD station (parking half a mile away because 
the situation is insane), they refused to even take a report, much less do 
anything to get the video. Wish it was our tiny Town next to LAX, where the 
police aren't so busy and would have happily written a letter. (When I lost a 
set of my wife's car keys, a detective took my call.)

My only injury was skin scrapped off the back of my right hand, apparently by 
the rough surface of the steering wheel airbag. I had some lower back stiffness 
in the afternoon, buy it went away by bedtime. Then the muscles connecting my 
neck to my shoulders (sides) just really stuff and sore overnight and I had to 
take some ibuprofen in the middle of the night. However, that was gone by 
morning. I did feel my brain bounce around a little inside my skull during the 
acceleration from the impact, but not the slightest sign of concussion.

Overall, I'm really, really pleased with the crash safety of the Prius.

The big frustration of all this? The other guy wouldn't talk to State Farm and 
his insurance company didn't even respond to State Farm! So, the whole thing is 
still in subrogation and I'm still waiting and hoping to get my deductible back.

Gerry

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Re: [MBZ] Accident

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Subrogation is a wonderful thing in a case like this.  I’ve had two situations 
where the person who cause the accident’s insurer refused to communicate, for 
whatever reason I have no idea. In both cases I covered the deductible, and in 
both cases I got reimbursed after 4-6 months when my insurer went after their 
insurance company.

I was confident that I would in both cases, as they were clearly the fault of 
the other driver.

-D



> On Dec 4, 2019, at 6:08 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Here is a description of an accident, parts of which, might be of interest to 
> some members of this group. 
> 
> A SoCal resident wrote:
>> Well, my 2015 Plug-In was totalled by a driver while I made a left turn on a 
>> left arrow. My car was pushed around about 90 degrees. Front right crushed 
>> (suspension seemed unharmed!), Left quarter panel pushed out so that it 
>> blocked the driver's door from opening more than a third of the way (getting 
>> out was a challenge). All of the airbags deployed, which may have saved me 
>> from hitting my head on the side window, but ran up the damage total like 
>> crazy (the steering wheel tearing open really adds to the expense, and 
>> headliners are just so pricey ... Body shop declared it totalled without 
>> bothering to open the hood because the obvious damage was so expensive. 
>> State Farm was great to work with, paid quickly and at what my research said 
>> was a very fair price. Apparently, it was a Prius Plug-In Advanced, which I 
>> didn't know, and was considered to have some vast number of options, which I 
>> think were actually standard.
>> 
>> The only problem with State Farm was that the first people I worked with 
>> said that I had to get the video from the external cameras on the parking 
>> structure that I was turning into. Mall security said they only turned over 
>> recordings to the police. When I went to the LAPD station (parking half a 
>> mile away because the situation is insane), they refused to even take a 
>> report, much less do anything to get the video. Wish it was our tiny Town 
>> next to LAX, where the police aren't so busy and would have happily written 
>> a letter. (When I lost a set of my wife's car keys, a detective took my 
>> call.)
>> 
>> My only injury was skin scrapped off the back of my right hand, apparently 
>> by the rough surface of the steering wheel airbag. I had some lower back 
>> stiffness in the afternoon, buy it went away by bedtime. Then the muscles 
>> connecting my neck to my shoulders (sides) just really stuff and sore 
>> overnight and I had to take some ibuprofen in the middle of the night. 
>> However, that was gone by morning. I did feel my brain bounce around a 
>> little inside my skull during the acceleration from the impact, but not the 
>> slightest sign of concussion.
>> 
>> Overall, I'm really, really pleased with the crash safety of the Prius.
>> 
>> The big frustration of all this? The other guy wouldn't talk to State Farm 
>> and his insurance company didn't even respond to State Farm! So, the whole 
>> thing is still in subrogation and I'm still waiting and hoping to get my 
>> deductible back.
> 
> Gerry
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Re: [MBZ] Accident

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Notice how people in crashes never seem to know there's a perfectly good door 
on the other side of the car?
My 190D turbo's RF door was latched closed after the crash, but after a 16 year 
old girl managed to force it open, it'll never again be within 6" of closed.
Mitch.

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[MBZ] Accident

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Here is a description of an accident, parts of which, might be of interest to 
some members of this group. 

A SoCal resident wrote:
> Well, my 2015 Plug-In was totalled by a driver while I made a left turn on a 
> left arrow. My car was pushed around about 90 degrees. Front right crushed 
> (suspension seemed unharmed!), Left quarter panel pushed out so that it 
> blocked the driver's door from opening more than a third of the way (getting 
> out was a challenge). All of the airbags deployed, which may have saved me 
> from hitting my head on the side window, but ran up the damage total like 
> crazy (the steering wheel tearing open really adds to the expense, and 
> headliners are just so pricey ... Body shop declared it totalled without 
> bothering to open the hood because the obvious damage was so expensive. State 
> Farm was great to work with, paid quickly and at what my research said was a 
> very fair price. Apparently, it was a Prius Plug-In Advanced, which I didn't 
> know, and was considered to have some vast number of options, which I think 
> were actually standard.
> 
> The only problem with State Farm was that the first people I worked with said 
> that I had to get the video from the external cameras on the parking 
> structure that I was turning into. Mall security said they only turned over 
> recordings to the police. When I went to the LAPD station (parking half a 
> mile away because the situation is insane), they refused to even take a 
> report, much less do anything to get the video. Wish it was our tiny Town 
> next to LAX, where the police aren't so busy and would have happily written a 
> letter. (When I lost a set of my wife's car keys, a detective took my call.)
> 
> My only injury was skin scrapped off the back of my right hand, apparently by 
> the rough surface of the steering wheel airbag. I had some lower back 
> stiffness in the afternoon, buy it went away by bedtime. Then the muscles 
> connecting my neck to my shoulders (sides) just really stuff and sore 
> overnight and I had to take some ibuprofen in the middle of the night. 
> However, that was gone by morning. I did feel my brain bounce around a little 
> inside my skull during the acceleration from the impact, but not the 
> slightest sign of concussion.
> 
> Overall, I'm really, really pleased with the crash safety of the Prius.
> 
> The big frustration of all this? The other guy wouldn't talk to State Farm 
> and his insurance company didn't even respond to State Farm! So, the whole 
> thing is still in subrogation and I'm still waiting and hoping to get my 
> deductible back.

Gerry

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Re: [MBZ] El Mercado de Wal oel

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yeah, the Business membership if you’re not using their branded credit card is 
rarely a good deal for the average consumer. We got talked into it a few years 
ago and ended up changing back to a regular membership. In fairness to Costco 
they did refund the difference back to us when we renewed at the lower level. 
They claim you’ll come out ahead on the business membership, but at the time 
they didn't give credit for gasoline purchases, and that was the dealbreaker 
for us. Without that gas money counting towards our annual vig, it didn’t work 
out.

Costco is like a lot of retailers, where if you expect to get ahead you’ve got 
to really do your due diligence. This is something Mitch excels at due to his 
beancounter mindset (no diss there, consider it a compliment!) There have been 
some consumer web sites that have done comparison shopping and found that with 
some products it’s actually cheaper to buy it elsewhere. I think toilet paper 
was one of the items. That being said, the Kirkland branded stuff is very good 
and rarely disappoints while being very cost effective over other brands. I 
bought some Kirkland cashews and pistachios today, and the price for both was 
nowhere near when they cost elsewhere in smaller quantities.

In that same vein, I’ve found that meat is rarely a bargain at Costco. We have 
a local farmer’s market that supplies most of the major restaurants in the 
area, and I go there for meat. For $100 I can walk out with a couple of whole 
beef tenderloins and a pork tenderloin that would cost me twice that at Costco 
or a local grocer. They also have a selection of produce that would make your 
eyes water.

-D

 
> On Dec 4, 2019, at 5:46 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I hadn't even thought of them in nearly five years, until my boss told me why 
> she joined Costco. 
> Costco talked her into upgrading after she took the Groupon. 
> 
> Unfortunately her Executive Business membership merely entitles me to buy an 
> employee card for the same $60 I'd pay for an individual card.
> Mitch.
> 
>> On December 4, 2019 at 5:27 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Groupon?? They still exist? I thought they had failed years ago
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] El Mercado de Wal oel

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

I hadn't even thought of them in nearly five years, until my boss told me why 
she joined Costco. 
Costco talked her into upgrading after she took the Groupon. 

Unfortunately her Executive Business membership merely entitles me to buy an 
employee card for the same $60 I'd pay for an individual card.
Mitch.

> On December 4, 2019 at 5:27 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Groupon?? They still exist? I thought they had failed years ago
>

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Re: [MBZ] El Mercado de Wal oel

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Groupon?? They still exist? I thought they had failed years ago

Allan

Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:

> They do the Groupon promotion a couple times a year, and it’s a heck of a 
> deal.
>
> -D
>
>
>> On Dec 4, 2019, at 3:41 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> What they offer here is a store 40 miles away that I'd visit 3-4 times a 
>> year at most.
>> My boss got in on the October Groupon with a $20 gift card and other goodies 
>> like a $18 package of laundry soap and a bale of paper towels. I might have 
>> joined then if I'd known.
>> Mitch.
>>> On December 4, 2019 at 3:24 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Why don't you just join Costco? I don't know what they offer in the USA
>> 

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Re: [MBZ] El Mercado de Wal oel

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> On December 4, 2019 at 4:34 PM Craig via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> What is their Groupon promotion?

October:
https://www.southernliving.com/news/groupon-costco-membership-2019

April:
https://www.thepennyhoarder.com/save-money/costco-membership-deals/

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Re: [MBZ] El Mercado de Wal oel

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Most of it's at a good, but not fantastic price.
This week I saved about $3 on 2 kilos of chocolate chips, $2 on a 3lb pack of 
bacon, $3 on a 50pk of instant cocoa, and $30 on 3 big bags of grain free dog 
food. And I saved $0.70 on 7 gallons of gas.
I heard great things about Kirkland bacon, but it's no better than Wright's, 
and last week's sale on Wright's was very near Costco pricing. If I hadn't 
stocked up on olive oil last month I could have saved another $10. And yeast is 
about half what I normally pay.

But I had to drive 80 miles round trip, and the freeway is on the opposite side 
of town from Costo so I have to drive through E. Lansing to get there. Sam's 
Club is right by the freeway, and there's a Sam's in Battle Creek which is only 
52 miles round trip.

The dog food is made by Diamond, like Taste of the Wild, but it has less meat 
than TOTW. Even allowing for the quality difference, I figure a 35lb bag is $10 
better than I can do elsewhere. If it weren't for the dog food it wouldn't be 
worth the trip at all. All that changes if a warehouse is conveniently located 
for you.
I do wish I knew about the Groupon deal for a Costco membership when we were 
talking about Costco glasses a couple months ago. A set of eyeglasses could pay 
for the membership. 

> On December 4, 2019 at 3:46 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Well, you might still break even if you bought enough on each of those 
> trips. Costco is known for offering big quantities of stuff!

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Re: [MBZ] Sprinter Reliability

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

That woman drives like my wife.
You would think she would have at least worn a helmet.

Randy

On 04/12/2019 2:46 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KiC03_wVjc=287s


On December 4, 2019 at 3:29 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 wrote:


https://www.ford.com/trucks/transit-passenger-van-wagon/

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Re: [MBZ] OT Them Hawgs

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Years ago when I lived in Northern Tribal Territories of Pakistan and
Afghanistan we formed a group that hunted wild pigs with spears. The spears
were forged from Bedford truck spring and firmly fitted to 8 ft shafts..
I can tell you from personal experience, watch your selected pig carefully
and kill it on the first thrust, or it will hurt you badly. It was not a
hunt for the meek.
I quit after one hunt partner lost a leg, then died by bleeding out. It was
a long way to any serious medical help. Muslim area, so it was only "kill
and release", no eating pork.


On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 2:15 PM clay via Mercedes 
wrote:

> TX should arrange for massed groups of spear hunters to trot around urban
> areas or places where discharge of firearms would perturb folks.  Bound to
> have much hilarity ensue and make it much more exciting to hunt boar with a
> stick than with full auto AR15
>
> clay
>
> > On Dec 4, 2019, at 6:24 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > The problem is landowners treating them like game animals instead of
> vermin.
> > If you can make good money charging people to hunt pigs, that money goes
> away if pigs are actually depleted in the process.
> >
> >> On December 4, 2019 at 7:23 AM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> BS article.   Much ado about very little.  TX needs to organize pig
> >> hunts and eliminate the herd to feed prisons, schools etc.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] El Mercado de Wal oel

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On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 16:08:37 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> They do the Groupon promotion a couple times a year, and it’s a heck of
> a deal.

What is their Groupon promotion?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Sprinter Reliability

[clay via Mercedes]

All I can speak to about reliability of a Sprinter is that they seem to REALLY 
hold value well.  I feed my addiction and desire for one by stalking them on 
CL.  Even a high miles 2004 example in reasonable condition brings $10k or 
more.  I do not see the civilian models come available, but that might be due 
them being snapped up for RV conversion since they are not abused like a work 
truck.  I also do not see many of the people hauler sort (long, tall, lots of 
seats)  Maybe those go to auction instead of CL

clay

> On Dec 4, 2019, at 10:15 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I'd also like to know about Sprinter reliability. Unlike Kevin, I'm a bottom 
> feeder, so considering models about ten years older or more.
> 
> Maybe there is an RV forum that has discussions about Sprinters?
> 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC

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Re: [MBZ] OT Them Hawgs

[clay via Mercedes]

Heating up all over

https://www.alaskapublic.org/2019/12/03/in-sitka-mild-winters-push-deer-population-to-near-capacity/

clay 

> On Dec 4, 2019, at 8:37 AM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
>>> 
> 
> 
> Maybe, if Global Warming gets bad enough, we will have "Bacon Bombs"
> instead of "Pig Bombs"!
> 
> 
> Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT Them Hawgs

[clay via Mercedes]

TX should arrange for massed groups of spear hunters to trot around urban areas 
or places where discharge of firearms would perturb folks.  Bound to have much 
hilarity ensue and make it much more exciting to hunt boar with a stick than 
with full auto AR15

clay

> On Dec 4, 2019, at 6:24 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> The problem is landowners treating them like game animals instead of vermin. 
> If you can make good money charging people to hunt pigs, that money goes away 
> if pigs are actually depleted in the process.
> 
>> On December 4, 2019 at 7:23 AM Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> BS article.   Much ado about very little.  TX needs to organize pig 
>> hunts and eliminate the herd to feed prisons, schools etc.
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Re: [MBZ] El Mercado de Wal oel

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

They do the Groupon promotion a couple times a year, and it’s a heck of a deal.

-D


> On Dec 4, 2019, at 3:41 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> What they offer here is a store 40 miles away that I'd visit 3-4 times a year 
> at most.
> My boss got in on the October Groupon with a $20 gift card and other goodies 
> like a $18 package of laundry soap and a bale of paper towels. I might have 
> joined then if I'd known.
> Mitch.
>> On December 4, 2019 at 3:24 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Why don't you just join Costco? I don't know what they offer in the USA
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Re: [MBZ] El Mercado de Wal oel

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Well, you might still break even if you bought enough on each of those 
trips. Costco is known for offering big quantities of stuff!


Randy

On 04/12/2019 2:41 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

What they offer here is a store 40 miles away that I'd visit 3-4 times a year 
at most.
My boss got in on the October Groupon with a $20 gift card and other goodies 
like a $18 package of laundry soap and a bale of paper towels. I might have 
joined then if I'd known.
Mitch.

On December 4, 2019 at 3:24 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 wrote:


Why don't you just join Costco? I don't know what they offer in the USA

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Re: [MBZ] Sprinter Reliability

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KiC03_wVjc=287s

> On December 4, 2019 at 3:29 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> https://www.ford.com/trucks/transit-passenger-van-wagon/

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Re: [MBZ] oil grade for m119

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On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 10:04:32 -0800 Karl W via Mercedes
 wrote:

> My father is reliving his misspent youth in our e420 with the 2.82 diff
> this week and noticed the oil pressure is low at idle. It is only
> halfway down the stick but I figured I would send him to get it
> changed. What oil do you guys run in these v8s? I am thinking 10w40 due
> to the cool 50 degree weather we are having, rather than 15-50 or
> whatever.

U ... 0W-40.


> Valvoline instant oil change did not have a filter for it, so I sent him
> driving around indy shops as my mechanic is not an "instant" kind of
> guy. As far as I know he is still out there, dusting motorcycles at
> traffic lights until the rear end breaks loose.

Reliving his misspent youth, as you said ...


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] El Mercado de Wal oel

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

What they offer here is a store 40 miles away that I'd visit 3-4 times a year 
at most.
My boss got in on the October Groupon with a $20 gift card and other goodies 
like a $18 package of laundry soap and a bale of paper towels. I might have 
joined then if I'd known.
Mitch.
> On December 4, 2019 at 3:24 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Why don't you just join Costco? I don't know what they offer in the USA

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Re: [MBZ] Sprinter Reliability

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 18:15:42 + (UTC) Max Dillon via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I'd also like to know about Sprinter reliability. Unlike Kevin, I'm a
> bottom feeder, so considering models about ten years older or more. 
> Maybe there is an RV forum that has discussions about Sprinters?

A fellow I know from having my heavy truck work done at The Shop in
Moriarty has a diesel Sprinter, though I do not know which year. He and
his wife have been driving it all over the country doing deliveries for
more than the past year (I forget when he got it).

When he wanted to expand his fleet and hire drivers to drive the other
vehicles, he could not depend on the quality of the drivers and opted
for new gasolin Ford Transit vans. He and one of the guys at The Shop
took the insides apart and fully insulated them and securely installed
E-track in the back for securing cargo.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] oil grade for m119

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

In the “winter” here in Florida I’ll run 0W-40 if I’ve got a change coming up. 
In the summer months I might run 15W-50.

-D

> On Dec 4, 2019, at 1:04 PM, Karl W via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> My father is reliving his misspent youth in our e420 with the 2.82 diff
> this week and noticed the oil pressure is low at idle. It is only halfway
> down the stick but I figured I would send him to get it changed. What oil
> do you guys run in these v8s? I am thinking 10w40 due to the cool 50 degree
> weather we are having, rather than 15-50 or whatever.
> 
> Valvoline instant oil change did not have a filter for it, so I sent him
> driving around indy shops as my mechanic is not an "instant" kind of guy.
> As far as I know he is still out there, dusting motorcycles at traffic
> lights until the rear end breaks loose.
> 
> On Wed, Dec 4, 2019, 5:04 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> https://www.seattletimes.com/business/they-turn-49-mercurys-and-shelby-cobras-into-evs-one-tesla-carcass-at-a-time/
>> 
>> -D
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Them Hawgs

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 11:45:10 -0500 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
 wrote:


> On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 09:40:35 -0700 Craig via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 09:13:45 -0500 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > > Hogs are all over Texas, they tear up everything and can be really 
> > > nasty.  My ex-BIL had them tearing up his yard in a Houston area
> > > housing development, he was itching to put some meat on the smoke
> > > but no weapons allowed to be discharged in the neighborhood.
> > 
> > Bow and arrow / crossbow?
>
> Weapon

Is that to say they consider a bow and arrow to be a weapon and silently
shooting the arrow to be a discharge?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] El Mercado de Wal oel

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Just cashed out my annual rebate/kickback cheque today at Costco. And enjoyed a 
yummy Italian sausage for my lunch.

And yes, Mitch, no tyres or batteries if you’re not a member.

Here in the States they have a branded VISA credit card that we use for all of 
our Costco purchases. We never roll a balance but still get several hundred 
dollars back on it annually, even more so now that they include fuel purchases 
towards your points.

-D


> On Dec 4, 2019, at 3:24 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Why don't you just join Costco? I don't know what they offer in the USA but 
> here in Canada, if you buy the "Executive" membership, you get a percentage 
> of every dollar spent back. It has always covered our cost of renewal. My 
> good wife renewed this morning and paid the annual fee and got $50 or more in 
> cash back as well from the cheque they had sent us.
> She buys things like paper towel and TP there as well as many other things. 
> We get some meat there. We have bought eyeglasses there and I got my hearing 
> aides from them. My laptop computer came from Costco. Plus we have ordered 
> things online to be delivered, like a mattress and boxspring. Lots of good 
> quality things at reasonable prices and an unbeatable guarantee. Does not 
> seem to matter what you want to return or when, they smile and take it back. 
> Plus, electronic stuff like the laptop come with additional warranty provided 
> by Costco. We must have been members for 20 years or more. No regrets.
> 
> Randy
> 
> On 04/12/2019 2:11 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:
>> This reminds me of my Saturn woes.
>> Last winter it wouldn't start when it was really cold, and this November 
>> wouldn't start when it's sort of cold, so I NEED a battery.
>> 
>> So I got a Costco gift card and went to buy a rare group 100 battery, pretty 
>> much only sold bt Costco and NAPA.
>> Nope, can't sell you one unless you're a member, because you wouldn't get a 
>> warranty. (I suspect they don't sell tires to nonmembers either)
>> 
>> OK, let's try Wally World. They have tons of group 78 for $50 and $75, and 3 
>> of the $94 Maxx batteries.
>> Web site says the Saturn is externally vented (yep, a hose takes the 
>> hydrogen to the back bumper) and the $50&$94 group 78s will work, $75 
>> battery is no good for me.
>> Get there, and the $50-75 batteries don't have hose fittings. 3 Maxx 
>> batteries is really zero Maxx batteries.
>> 
>> The really good part: "We can't stop guys from just putting a battery in the 
>> cart and rolling out the door, especially late at night" And if they steal 
>> one, they steal top of the line, and since this store has 3 in inventory and 
>> never sells any, because there are none to sell, nobody sends any more to 
>> restock the empty shelf. And the store knows it has no batteries, but nobody 
>> wants to fix the inventory and get some batteries in.
>> 
>> I think I'll order 4 batteries for instore pickup and see if any get 
>> delivered. They got two pallets of batteries yesterday and none were group 
>> 78.
>> 
>> BTW, those $50 batteries? The guy says they last about 11 months and you get 
>> a new one. (one yr warranty)
>> Does the new battery have a new warranty?
>> Yes, but you don't want to do that, it's a hassle changing batteries every 
>> year.
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Re: [MBZ] Sprinter Reliability

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

https://www.ford.com/trucks/transit-passenger-van-wagon/


On 04/12/2019 2:21 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

Dogs are bigger than I thought, and you've got a couple of car seats, so it 
sounds like you're outgrowing Curly's beloved Grand Caravan and moved into LWB 
van territory.

Maybe Benzworld would know more about the latest Sprinter powertrains?
15 years ago Sprinters were thought pretty solid, but there were a few problem 
areas on the 5 cyl engine like the intake manifold. It'd be nice if you knew of 
a company that ran a fleet of newer Sprinters and could talk to somebody who 
manages the fleet or pays the bills.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Sprinter Reliability

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Are SPrinters turbo or NA diesel engines?

On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 3:22 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> Dogs are bigger than I thought, and you've got a couple of car seats, so
> it sounds like you're outgrowing Curly's beloved Grand Caravan and moved
> into LWB van territory.
>
> Maybe Benzworld would know more about the latest Sprinter powertrains?
> 15 years ago Sprinters were thought pretty solid, but there were a few
> problem areas on the 5 cyl engine like the intake manifold. It'd be nice if
> you knew of a company that ran a fleet of newer Sprinters and could talk to
> somebody who manages the fleet or pays the bills.
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT This is cool

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Should be "tyres" to capture the sophisticates out there.

On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 3:17 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
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> Don't you just love the descriptive language on the Model T racer?
>
> fitted with "older tires"
>
> the "corroded dashboard"
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Re: [MBZ] El Mercado de Wal oel

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Why don't you just join Costco? I don't know what they offer in the USA 
but here in Canada, if you buy the "Executive" membership, you get a 
percentage of every dollar spent back. It has always covered our cost of 
renewal. My good wife renewed this morning and paid the annual fee and 
got $50 or more in cash back as well from the cheque they had sent us.
She buys things like paper towel and TP there as well as many other 
things. We get some meat there. We have bought eyeglasses there and I 
got my hearing aides from them. My laptop computer came from Costco. 
Plus we have ordered things online to be delivered, like a mattress and 
boxspring. Lots of good quality things at reasonable prices and an 
unbeatable guarantee. Does not seem to matter what you want to return or 
when, they smile and take it back. Plus, electronic stuff like the 
laptop come with additional warranty provided by Costco. We must have 
been members for 20 years or more. No regrets.


Randy

On 04/12/2019 2:11 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

This reminds me of my Saturn woes.
Last winter it wouldn't start when it was really cold, and this November 
wouldn't start when it's sort of cold, so I NEED a battery.

So I got a Costco gift card and went to buy a rare group 100 battery, pretty 
much only sold bt Costco and NAPA.
Nope, can't sell you one unless you're a member, because you wouldn't get a 
warranty. (I suspect they don't sell tires to nonmembers either)

OK, let's try Wally World. They have tons of group 78 for $50 and $75, and 3 of 
the $94 Maxx batteries.
Web site says the Saturn is externally vented (yep, a hose takes the hydrogen to 
the back bumper) and the $50&$94 group 78s will work, $75 battery is no good 
for me.
Get there, and the $50-75 batteries don't have hose fittings. 3 Maxx batteries 
is really zero Maxx batteries.

The really good part: "We can't stop guys from just putting a battery in the cart 
and rolling out the door, especially late at night" And if they steal one, they 
steal top of the line, and since this store has 3 in inventory and never sells any, 
because there are none to sell, nobody sends any more to restock the empty shelf. And the 
store knows it has no batteries, but nobody wants to fix the inventory and get some 
batteries in.

I think I'll order 4 batteries for instore pickup and see if any get delivered. 
They got two pallets of batteries yesterday and none were group 78.

BTW, those $50 batteries? The guy says they last about 11 months and you get a 
new one. (one yr warranty)
Does the new battery have a new warranty?
Yes, but you don't want to do that, it's a hassle changing batteries every year.

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Re: [MBZ] Sprinter Reliability

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Dogs are bigger than I thought, and you've got a couple of car seats, so it 
sounds like you're outgrowing Curly's beloved Grand Caravan and moved into LWB 
van territory. 

Maybe Benzworld would know more about the latest Sprinter powertrains?
15 years ago Sprinters were thought pretty solid, but there were a few problem 
areas on the 5 cyl engine like the intake manifold. It'd be nice if you knew of 
a company that ran a fleet of newer Sprinters and could talk to somebody who 
manages the fleet or pays the bills.

Mitch.

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[MBZ] OT This is cool

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Don't you just love the descriptive language on the Model T racer?

fitted with "older tires"

the "corroded dashboard"

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Re: [MBZ] El Mercado de Wal oel

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

This reminds me of my Saturn woes.
Last winter it wouldn't start when it was really cold, and this November 
wouldn't start when it's sort of cold, so I NEED a battery. 

So I got a Costco gift card and went to buy a rare group 100 battery, pretty 
much only sold bt Costco and NAPA.
Nope, can't sell you one unless you're a member, because you wouldn't get a 
warranty. (I suspect they don't sell tires to nonmembers either)

OK, let's try Wally World. They have tons of group 78 for $50 and $75, and 3 of 
the $94 Maxx batteries.
Web site says the Saturn is externally vented (yep, a hose takes the hydrogen 
to the back bumper) and the $50&$94 group 78s will work, $75 battery is no good 
for me. 
Get there, and the $50-75 batteries don't have hose fittings. 3 Maxx batteries 
is really zero Maxx batteries.

The really good part: "We can't stop guys from just putting a battery in the 
cart and rolling out the door, especially late at night" And if they steal one, 
they steal top of the line, and since this store has 3 in inventory and never 
sells any, because there are none to sell, nobody sends any more to restock the 
empty shelf. And the store knows it has no batteries, but nobody wants to fix 
the inventory and get some batteries in. 

I think I'll order 4 batteries for instore pickup and see if any get delivered. 
They got two pallets of batteries yesterday and none were group 78.

BTW, those $50 batteries? The guy says they last about 11 months and you get a 
new one. (one yr warranty)
Does the new battery have a new warranty?
Yes, but you don't want to do that, it's a hassle changing batteries every year.

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Re: [MBZ] OT this is so cool

[G Mann via Mercedes]

After the walletectomy, you will have much more space... in both vehicles..

Incredible sales price on the Model T whow...

On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 9:55 AM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 09:10:20 -0500 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > I don't think I could fit in it but how much fun would this be?
> >
> > https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1919-ford-model-t-2/
>
>
> Something in which you might fit and fun in a different kind of way:
>
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2006-ferrari-f430-spider-9/
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Re: [MBZ] Sprinter Reliability

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At minimum, that’s correct. The Ody did the job with 4 adults, two kids in car 
seats and two 80LB service dogs, but my big Goldendoodle pup will be much 
larger at over 100LBs which wouldn’t leave much room for me in the back. The 
Sprinter can be configured with as many seats as necessary or have seats 
removed to accommodate  2 crates for the pet puppies. Last summer when we took 
the Ody to the lake with the stand-up paddle boards, gear and provisions for 
the day, there was no room for me. Luckily, a friend was also able to go, so I 
had a seat in her car. A Sprinter could swallow the gear with no problem, and 
with the fuel economy of the Diesel engine, it would cost nearly the same to 
operate.
Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1982 240D, High Mileage Hildegard

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> On Dec 4, 2019, at 6:32 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> At minimum, it has to seat Kevin, Mrs Kevin, a sighted driver, and a herd of 
> medium-large dogs?
> If it weren't for the 3rd person, a 123-124-210-211 wagon would be great.
> One with split folding seats might work and cost less but the dogs would be 
> crowded if you had 4 people.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Them Hawgs

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Yep, more guns. Then send lawyers and money.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Dec 4, 2019 11:45:56 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes :
 
> Weapon
> 
> -FT
> 
> On 12/4/19 11:40 AM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 09:13:45 -0500 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> Hogs are all over Texas, they tear up everything and can be really
>>> nasty. My ex-BIL had them tearing up his yard in a Houston area
>>> housing development, he was itching to put some meat on the smoke but
>>> no weapons allowed to be discharged in the neighborhood.
>>> 
>> Bow and arrow / crossbow?
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Sprinter Reliability

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

I'd also like to know about Sprinter reliability. Unlike Kevin, I'm a bottom 
feeder, so considering models about ten years older or more.
 
Maybe there is an RV forum that has discussions about Sprinters?

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Dec 4, 2019 1:21:13 AM Kevin Kraly via Mercedes :
 
> Hello Dieselers. As I mentioned a couple days ago, I’m considering a Sprinter 
> van to replace the 2017 Honda Odyssey as the family/K9 hauler. Our three 
> Doodle puppies are growing larger, and we are also having two more 
> Goldendoodles raised to be our next guide dogs. In just over a year, we will 
> have 5 grown dogs plus my wife’s Victory Doodle if he’s still around, and Ody 
> is not going to be quite big enough. I’m considering two Sprinter 
> possibilities, a brand new 2019 V6 Diesel/7gTronic transmission (mid to upper 
> $50K, or a 2016 4 cylinder Diesel/7gTronic tranny ($36K. Both are 144”WB 12 
> passenger models. I would believe that the in-line engine would be more 
> reliable although a little less powerful (161hp/266LbFt compared to the v6 
> with 188HP/320LB/Ft. It won’t be towing much, maybe a trailer with SUP boards 
> on it, sub 1000LB which the 4 banger could handle. Any opinions on this would 
> be greatly appreciated!
> Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
> 1982 240D, High Mileage Hildegard hoping for a much younger Mercedes van 
> sibling
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[MBZ] oil grade for m119

[Karl W via Mercedes]

My father is reliving his misspent youth in our e420 with the 2.82 diff
this week and noticed the oil pressure is low at idle. It is only halfway
down the stick but I figured I would send him to get it changed. What oil
do you guys run in these v8s? I am thinking 10w40 due to the cool 50 degree
weather we are having, rather than 15-50 or whatever.

Valvoline instant oil change did not have a filter for it, so I sent him
driving around indy shops as my mechanic is not an "instant" kind of guy.
As far as I know he is still out there, dusting motorcycles at traffic
lights until the rear end breaks loose.

On Wed, Dec 4, 2019, 5:04 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
wrote:

>
> https://www.seattletimes.com/business/they-turn-49-mercurys-and-shelby-cobras-into-evs-one-tesla-carcass-at-a-time/
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[MBZ] El Mercado de Wal oel

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Hello Rich,

Here's an update on the status of your order.

We ran out of your item(s) in the store and have ordered more. We 
estimate they'll be ready for pickup *Fri, Dec 6, after 6pm.*


*Please don't head to the store yet* — we'll send a confirmation when 
your order is here and ready to pick up. You can track status or cancel 
your order in your account 
. .


We're sorry for the inconvenience — we'll do better next time.

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Re: [MBZ] OT this is so cool

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 09:10:20 -0500 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I don't think I could fit in it but how much fun would this be?
> 
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1919-ford-model-t-2/


Something in which you might fit and fun in a different kind of way:

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2006-ferrari-f430-spider-9/


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT Them Hawgs

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Weapon

-FT

On 12/4/19 11:40 AM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 09:13:45 -0500 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
 wrote:


Hogs are all over Texas, they tear up everything and can be really
nasty.  My ex-BIL had them tearing up his yard in a Houston area
housing development, he was itching to put some meat on the smoke but
no weapons allowed to be discharged in the neighborhood.

Bow and arrow / crossbow?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT Them Hawgs

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 04/12/2019 10:40 AM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 09:13:45 -0500 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
 wrote:


Hogs are all over Texas, they tear up everything and can be really
nasty.  My ex-BIL had them tearing up his yard in a Houston area
housing development, he was itching to put some meat on the smoke but
no weapons allowed to be discharged in the neighborhood.

Bow and arrow / crossbow?


Craig


Or, live trap and haul away to somewhere that will allow you to shoot them?

Make a large version of a skunk trap out of a barrel and mount it on a 
trailer so it is easy to do.


Rent the contraption out to your neighbours once you have enough wild 
pork in the freezer?


Randy


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Re: [MBZ] OT Them Hawgs

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 09:13:45 -0500 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Hogs are all over Texas, they tear up everything and can be really 
> nasty.  My ex-BIL had them tearing up his yard in a Houston area
> housing development, he was itching to put some meat on the smoke but
> no weapons allowed to be discharged in the neighborhood.

Bow and arrow / crossbow?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT Them Hawgs

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 01:54:06 + (UTC) Max Dillon via Mercedes
 wrote:

> 
> Caused by Global warming!
> 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> 
> Dec 3, 2019 5:22:43 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
> : 
> > "Pig Bomb"
> > 
> > https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7751365/Expert-warns-pig-bomb-woman-mauled-death-hogs-lethal-sharks.html


Maybe, if Global Warming gets bad enough, we will have "Bacon Bombs"
instead of "Pig Bombs"!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Sprinter Reliability

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

At minimum, it has to seat Kevin, Mrs Kevin, a sighted driver, and a herd of 
medium-large dogs?
If it weren't for the 3rd person, a 123-124-210-211 wagon would be great.
One with split folding seats might work and cost less but the dogs would be 
crowded if you had 4 people.

Mitch

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Re: [MBZ] OT Them Hawgs

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

They breed like rabbits, so eradication is pretty much not a concern. We have a 
small group of them here, maybe 10-15, and that number can easily double in 6-8 
months. When we start seeing them during the day in the open we call the 
trapper. I would say we bring him in roughly every 18 months or so. He’ll 
easily take 6-8 in a night, which is enough to thin the herd, so to speak.

-D


> On Dec 4, 2019, at 9:24 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> The problem is landowners treating them like game animals instead of vermin. 
> If you can make good money charging people to hunt pigs, that money goes away 
> if pigs are actually depleted in the process.
> 
>> On December 4, 2019 at 7:23 AM Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> BS article.   Much ado about very little.  TX needs to organize pig 
>> hunts and eliminate the herd to feed prisons, schools etc.
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Re: [MBZ] OT Them Hawgs

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

The problem is landowners treating them like game animals instead of vermin. 
If you can make good money charging people to hunt pigs, that money goes away 
if pigs are actually depleted in the process.

> On December 4, 2019 at 7:23 AM Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> BS article.   Much ado about very little.  TX needs to organize pig 
> hunts and eliminate the herd to feed prisons, schools etc.

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Re: [MBZ] Anybody close to ST Louis?

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Copart pickups are 8-5, M-F, unless you arrange to have them leave the car in 
the front yard and give you the gate code to get into the front yard. IIRC you 
have about a week before the $20/day starts up. 

Can Klebbie buy on Friday, have them leave it in the pickup yard the next 
Friday, and avoid fees if he gets it over the weekend? Might be worth calling 
the site and asking. My local sites are pretty good about helping you avoid 
storage.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Them Hawgs

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Hogs are all over Texas, they tear up everything and can be really 
nasty.  My ex-BIL had them tearing up his yard in a Houston area housing 
development, he was itching to put some meat on the smoke but no weapons 
allowed to be discharged in the neighborhood.  I have not had any but my 
neighbor went out and shot them and said the meat was really tasty, esp 
after acorn season, so not sure where the writer got that misinformation 
about the taste.  Probably dono nuffin bout smoke.


--FT

On 12/4/19 7:23 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
BS article.   Much ado about very little.  TX needs to organize pig 
hunts and eliminate the herd to feed prisons, schools etc.



Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
December 3, 2019 at 9:27 PM
Yep.



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[MBZ] OT this is so cool

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I don't think I could fit in it but how much fun would this be?

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1919-ford-model-t-2/

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Electrifying!

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Capital offense.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Wed, Dec 4, 2019, 8:04 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
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[MBZ] OT - Electrifying!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

https://www.seattletimes.com/business/they-turn-49-mercurys-and-shelby-cobras-into-evs-one-tesla-carcass-at-a-time/

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Re: [MBZ] OT Them Hawgs

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

BS article.   Much ado about very little.  TX needs to organize pig 
hunts and eliminate the herd to feed prisons, schools etc.



Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
December 3, 2019 at 9:27 PM
Yep.



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Re: [MBZ] Anybody close to ST Louis?

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Kaleb wrote:

> Got a car coming up for copart auction on the 6th. That happens
> to be the day I drive down to Galveston for a cruise. If I win
> would somebody be able to retrieve it for me till I get back?

Maybe.  Depends on how long after the auction before it has to be
picked up.  My weekend is pretty busy, but I might be able to fit
it in.  And the trailer is unloaded at the moment.

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