date:20200402

Same principle would apply; I would think you dont need as much generating
capacity if your max power draw is less. Smaller generators are cheaper and
burn less fuel, requiring smaller tanks and less capital up front per hour
of burn time. Of course a separate panel is not free, but we have a
subpanel we could easily have configured this way.

Just thinking out loud. Fundamentally we dont need half the crap we
typically run. My buddy's family spends weeks on the coast in Norway in
cabins with no power every summer. They pack in propane for the fridge and
the stove, burn candles and bathe in the fjord. 15 min walk to the nearest
road. When you come back, you know you went somewhere.

On Thu, Apr 2, 2020, 6:57 PM Jim Cathey  wrote:

> > Seems like you would want a separate panel with critical bits hooked up
> to it with generator backup,
>
> I loathe this in the home.  A home is small enough, and its occupants
> intelligent enough,
> to simply turn off everything that is not necessary.  The generator will
> protect itself if you
> get stupid.
>
> -- Jim
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT - No Nuclear Kitty

2020-04-02 Thread Kevin Kraly via Mercedes

What a cat!  I hope she lives a little longer.
Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
2019 Sprinter 650 miles, Low MIleage Lutgard AKA Der DoodleWagen
1982 240D, High Mileage Hildegard 

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> On Apr 2, 2020, at 5:25 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I’ve mentioned that Kitty has hypothyroidism, a common malady for cats as 
> they age, and that we were going to have her treated using radioactive 
> iodine-131,1. Part of preparing for the treatment is to have bloodwork done 
> to assess the level of thyroid hormones, which is also done at least annually 
> just to get levels and assess their drug treatment and dosage if that’s being 
> done.
> 
> I had to go into work on Monday on short notice, so the wife takes Kitty to 
> the vet. Wife has not takes an animal to the vet in easily 10 years, if that. 
> Kitty goes with me every time, she’s calm, doesn’t vocalize, etc., etc. This 
> no doubt stressed her. The vet isn’t allowing people into the building, so 
> it’s like a drive up/drop off thing and the doctor calls you once they see 
> the animal and discusses treatment, tests and so forth. Even more stressful.
> 
> So no call for a good 20 minutes, maybe more. Wife is wondering what’s up. 
> Get a call from vet, daughter of our original vet who has since retired and 
> sold off his practice. She says Kitty has had a “cardiac event” while they 
> were trying to draw blood. Said she cried out and slumped over. Doesn’t think 
> Kitty will see lunch time. They get a line in her and are putting fluids into 
> her and giving her oxygen. Wife is freaking out.
> 
> Vet says they want to keep her over night. Nope. If she’s stressed and close 
> to crossing the rainbow bridge, we don’t want it happening in a kennel in the 
> back of the vet’s office. Vet says she wants to keep her until at least lunch 
> time, when she’ll call us and give us an update.
> 
> I get home, wife is all worked up, understandably. Vet calls. Kitty is 
> resting quietly and responsive. I’m coming to get her.
> 
> I get Kitty home and she’s clearly out of sorts. We walk around the house and 
> refamiliarize, despite her being a little wobbly. Normal behavior after being 
> out of the house. She gets a tin of her favorite turkey and gravy and goes to 
> sleep in her favorite place on the couch.
> 
> Vet calls later in the day and wants to know if she’s OK. Tells me she 
> probably won’t make it to the next day.
> 
> She’s sitting on my desk in front of my keyboard right now, asleep. Faced 
> Death and kicked it’s ass. She’s definitely not 100%, but close. Based on 
> behaviors we’ve seen in other cats we’ve owned it’s likely she suffered some 
> sort of mild stroke from the stress. Her vocalizations have changed, which is 
> weird. She sometimes sits and stares, like she’s forgotten why she was there. 
> She’s still doing all of her daily stuff, like walking around the pool with 
> me every morning and taking a few drinks from it.
> 
> So it’s unlikely we’ll mess with the nuclear stuff. We’ll let Nature take 
> it’s course until she’s in pain or can’t function comfortably then we’ll help 
> her go. You hate like heck to lose a pet, but when I think about it I also 
> think about when the wife rescued her 16+ years ago from the side of the road 
> in a thunderstorm, all 8 ounces of her. Vet said she probably wouldn’t make 
> it to the next day then, but like now, she’s not going to let someone dictate 
> when she goes, dang it.
> 
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[MBZ] The Big Sleep

2020-04-02 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes

Opening scenes features a RHD Benz driving

--FT
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Re: [MBZ] OT - No Nuclear Kitty

2020-04-02 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes

Good for you Dan. It is about honoring all creatures great & small. Love &
enjoy your kitty while you can.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Thu, Apr 2, 2020, 8:25 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
wrote:

> I’ve mentioned that Kitty has hypothyroidism, a common malady for cats as
> they age, and that we were going to have her treated using radioactive
> iodine-131,1. Part of preparing for the treatment is to have bloodwork done
> to assess the level of thyroid hormones, which is also done at least
> annually just to get levels and assess their drug treatment and dosage if
> that’s being done.
>
> I had to go into work on Monday on short notice, so the wife takes Kitty
> to the vet. Wife has not takes an animal to the vet in easily 10 years, if
> that. Kitty goes with me every time, she’s calm, doesn’t vocalize, etc.,
> etc. This no doubt stressed her. The vet isn’t allowing people into the
> building, so it’s like a drive up/drop off thing and the doctor calls you
> once they see the animal and discusses treatment, tests and so forth. Even
> more stressful.
>
> So no call for a good 20 minutes, maybe more. Wife is wondering what’s up.
> Get a call from vet, daughter of our original vet who has since retired and
> sold off his practice. She says Kitty has had a “cardiac event” while they
> were trying to draw blood. Said she cried out and slumped over. Doesn’t
> think Kitty will see lunch time. They get a line in her and are putting
> fluids into her and giving her oxygen. Wife is freaking out.
>
> Vet says they want to keep her over night. Nope. If she’s stressed and
> close to crossing the rainbow bridge, we don’t want it happening in a
> kennel in the back of the vet’s office. Vet says she wants to keep her
> until at least lunch time, when she’ll call us and give us an update.
>
> I get home, wife is all worked up, understandably. Vet calls. Kitty is
> resting quietly and responsive. I’m coming to get her.
>
> I get Kitty home and she’s clearly out of sorts. We walk around the house
> and refamiliarize, despite her being a little wobbly. Normal behavior after
> being out of the house. She gets a tin of her favorite turkey and gravy and
> goes to sleep in her favorite place on the couch.
>
> Vet calls later in the day and wants to know if she’s OK. Tells me she
> probably won’t make it to the next day.
>
> She’s sitting on my desk in front of my keyboard right now, asleep. Faced
> Death and kicked it’s ass. She’s definitely not 100%, but close. Based on
> behaviors we’ve seen in other cats we’ve owned it’s likely she suffered
> some sort of mild stroke from the stress. Her vocalizations have changed,
> which is weird. She sometimes sits and stares, like she’s forgotten why she
> was there. She’s still doing all of her daily stuff, like walking around
> the pool with me every morning and taking a few drinks from it.
>
> So it’s unlikely we’ll mess with the nuclear stuff. We’ll let Nature take
> it’s course until she’s in pain or can’t function comfortably then we’ll
> help her go. You hate like heck to lose a pet, but when I think about it I
> also think about when the wife rescued her 16+ years ago from the side of
> the road in a thunderstorm, all 8 ounces of her. Vet said she probably
> wouldn’t make it to the next day then, but like now, she’s not going to let
> someone dictate when she goes, dang it.
>
> -D/King Kitty
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Home Standby Generator

2020-04-02 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes

> Seems like you would want a separate panel with critical bits hooked up to it 
> with generator backup,

I loathe this in the home.  A home is small enough, and its occupants 
intelligent enough,
to simply turn off everything that is not necessary.  The generator will 
protect itself if you
get stupid.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Home Standby Generator

2020-04-02 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes

Look into the Aladdin lamps, we have two.  They put out about 60W light bulb 
equivalent, and a lot of heat.
They are quite thirsty, and can be a bit smelly.  We put one in the living 
room, and one in the kitchen.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Home Standby Generator

Hospitals have red outlets in all the rooms showing what will be supported
by the generators when the power fails. Seems like you would want a
separate panel with critical bits hooked up to it with generator backup,
and everything else can go offline.

I should think you would run the thing long enough to charge up some
batteries and then turn it off. Who wants to listen to that sort of thing
24h/day anyway? I mean, what good is a power failure if you can't enjoy
the silence? Get a propane fridge and run it off the same tank.

Speaking of which, I really need some of those old style wick lamps. I
guess the oil ones can use mantles also, which I did not know about until
now somehow and must increase the light output tremendously. Just have to
figure out how to keep them from breaking in earthquakes. I don't want the
gas ones because they hiss.

At least with propane your exhaust will smell like flowers.

On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 5:11 PM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Thu, 2 Apr 2020 17:04:34 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > Now I’m trying to figure out how I’m going to set up a fuel supply.
> > Might end up with a 500 gallon LP tank in the front yard and some
> > directional drilling done to get the line under the driveway and around
> > the back of the house. The alternative is a couple of 120 gallon tanks
> > in the back yard, but with this unit using 4 gallons per hour at full
> > load that doesn’t provide a very long run time in the event of an
> > extended outage. Actual consumption will probably be more like 1-1/2 to
> > 2 gallons per hour, but even then that only gives me roughly four days
> > of run time if the tanks were full (assume 80% capacity when their
> > full, or around 100 gallons.)
>
> How often do you have a full load?
>
> What is your normal load?
>
> Is the 1.5 - 2 gallons/hour the no-/low-load fuel consumption?
> 400 gallons / 1.5 - 2 gallons/hr = 200 - 267 hours.
>
> Would an additional smaller, less fuel consumptive generator be suitable
> for low loads, with switching to the larger generator for high loads be
> worth the trouble?
>
> Would you do like Shirley and I did when we lived south of Calhan, CO,
> and were our own power company, and turn the generator off when you go
> to sleep?
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] R129/SL500 Front Shocks

2020-04-02 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes

It takes awhile for them to compress and get settled in. I saw that when I did 
the 123 and 126 front suspension rebuilds. They’ll be ok

--FT
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> On Apr 2, 2020, at 9:00 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Replaced the front shocks (Bilsteins) on the wife’s SL500 this afternoon. 
> Took me all of maybe 45 minutes to do both.
> 
> So I didn’t have to pull or compress the springs, I put a jack stand under 
> the “A” arm where the bottom ball joint is. Fit the cradle on my cast jack 
> stands perfectly. With the suspension compressed by the weight of the car, I 
> removed the top nut on the shock rod and then jacked the car up maybe an inch 
> or so to lower the A arm and let the shock rod come out of the top mount. 
> From there I removed the three bolts holding the shock to the steering 
> knuckle, removed it, put the new one in place with new bolts, and tightened 
> everything up.
> 
> Front of the car definitely sits higher. The old shocks did not extend the 
> same amount as the new ones, that is, there wasn’t enough pressure to force 
> the rods out to full travel, which tells me they were kaput. I drove it 
> around the neighborhood and couldn’t tell a difference, but I’m sure the wife 
> will when the times comes for her to drive the car again.
> 
> Guess I probably need to replace the rears now, too.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - No Nuclear Kitty

Yeah, I couldn’t do that. Don’t have the stomach for it. Had a business partner 
who did that for a number of his animals over the years. I understand, I just 
couldn’t do it myself.

-D

> On Apr 2, 2020, at 9:15 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I spared my favorite cat the stress of one last trip to the vet.
> Wasn't fun, but was only 2 cents' expense.
> 
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] OT - No Nuclear Kitty

2020-04-02 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes

I spared my favorite cat the stress of one last trip to the vet.
Wasn't fun, but was only 2 cents' expense.

-- Jim


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[MBZ] R129/SL500 Front Shocks

Replaced the front shocks (Bilsteins) on the wife’s SL500 this afternoon. Took 
me all of maybe 45 minutes to do both.

So I didn’t have to pull or compress the springs, I put a jack stand under the 
“A” arm where the bottom ball joint is. Fit the cradle on my cast jack stands 
perfectly. With the suspension compressed by the weight of the car, I removed 
the top nut on the shock rod and then jacked the car up maybe an inch or so to 
lower the A arm and let the shock rod come out of the top mount. From there I 
removed the three bolts holding the shock to the steering knuckle, removed it, 
put the new one in place with new bolts, and tightened everything up.

Front of the car definitely sits higher. The old shocks did not extend the same 
amount as the new ones, that is, there wasn’t enough pressure to force the rods 
out to full travel, which tells me they were kaput. I drove it around the 
neighborhood and couldn’t tell a difference, but I’m sure the wife will when 
the times comes for her to drive the car again.

Guess I probably need to replace the rears now, too.

-D
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Re: [MBZ] 400e centrifugal supercharger project

OK but then these dudes are looking at binning the entire stock engine
management system and doing a megasquirt or something.

On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 4:15 PM Mitchell Haley EA via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I've been driving around with a turbocharged GDI lean burn engine at 10:1.
> 30-33psi MAP (16-19 boost) is quite attainable.
> 87 octane recommended, but that requires a lot of knock retard.
> When it gets warmer than 50 deg outside I run 93 octane in it.
> Mitch.
>
> On Thu, April 2, 2020 12:52 pm, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote:
> > Wondering how supercharging a motor with 11:1 pistons is going to work.
> > But
> > the m119 turbo was their LMP race motor for quite a while, so maybe it
> > will be ok.
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT - No Nuclear Kitty

Good lord I can't imagine people spending money at a vet on a cat.  
There are so many cats out there if it kicks off just go get another cat.


On 4/2/2020 7:24 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

I’ve mentioned that Kitty has hypothyroidism, a common malady for cats as they 
age, and that we were going to have her treated using radioactive iodine-131,1. 
Part of preparing for the treatment is to have bloodwork done to assess the 
level of thyroid hormones, which is also done at least annually just to get 
levels and assess their drug treatment and dosage if that’s being done.

I had to go into work on Monday on short notice, so the wife takes Kitty to the 
vet. Wife has not takes an animal to the vet in easily 10 years, if that. Kitty 
goes with me every time, she’s calm, doesn’t vocalize, etc., etc. This no doubt 
stressed her. The vet isn’t allowing people into the building, so it’s like a 
drive up/drop off thing and the doctor calls you once they see the animal and 
discusses treatment, tests and so forth. Even more stressful.

So no call for a good 20 minutes, maybe more. Wife is wondering what’s up. Get 
a call from vet, daughter of our original vet who has since retired and sold 
off his practice. She says Kitty has had a “cardiac event” while they were 
trying to draw blood. Said she cried out and slumped over. Doesn’t think Kitty 
will see lunch time. They get a line in her and are putting fluids into her and 
giving her oxygen. Wife is freaking out.

Vet says they want to keep her over night. Nope. If she’s stressed and close to 
crossing the rainbow bridge, we don’t want it happening in a kennel in the back 
of the vet’s office. Vet says she wants to keep her until at least lunch time, 
when she’ll call us and give us an update.

I get home, wife is all worked up, understandably. Vet calls. Kitty is resting 
quietly and responsive. I’m coming to get her.

I get Kitty home and she’s clearly out of sorts. We walk around the house and 
refamiliarize, despite her being a little wobbly. Normal behavior after being 
out of the house. She gets a tin of her favorite turkey and gravy and goes to 
sleep in her favorite place on the couch.

Vet calls later in the day and wants to know if she’s OK. Tells me she probably 
won’t make it to the next day.

She’s sitting on my desk in front of my keyboard right now, asleep. Faced Death 
and kicked it’s ass. She’s definitely not 100%, but close. Based on behaviors 
we’ve seen in other cats we’ve owned it’s likely she suffered some sort of mild 
stroke from the stress. Her vocalizations have changed, which is weird. She 
sometimes sits and stares, like she’s forgotten why she was there. She’s still 
doing all of her daily stuff, like walking around the pool with me every 
morning and taking a few drinks from it.

So it’s unlikely we’ll mess with the nuclear stuff. We’ll let Nature take it’s 
course until she’s in pain or can’t function comfortably then we’ll help her 
go. You hate like heck to lose a pet, but when I think about it I also think 
about when the wife rescued her 16+ years ago from the side of the road in a 
thunderstorm, all 8 ounces of her. Vet said she probably wouldn’t make it to 
the next day then, but like now, she’s not going to let someone dictate when 
she goes, dang it.

-D/King Kitty
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[MBZ] OT - No Nuclear Kitty

I’ve mentioned that Kitty has hypothyroidism, a common malady for cats as they 
age, and that we were going to have her treated using radioactive iodine-131,1. 
Part of preparing for the treatment is to have bloodwork done to assess the 
level of thyroid hormones, which is also done at least annually just to get 
levels and assess their drug treatment and dosage if that’s being done.

I had to go into work on Monday on short notice, so the wife takes Kitty to the 
vet. Wife has not takes an animal to the vet in easily 10 years, if that. Kitty 
goes with me every time, she’s calm, doesn’t vocalize, etc., etc. This no doubt 
stressed her. The vet isn’t allowing people into the building, so it’s like a 
drive up/drop off thing and the doctor calls you once they see the animal and 
discusses treatment, tests and so forth. Even more stressful.

So no call for a good 20 minutes, maybe more. Wife is wondering what’s up. Get 
a call from vet, daughter of our original vet who has since retired and sold 
off his practice. She says Kitty has had a “cardiac event” while they were 
trying to draw blood. Said she cried out and slumped over. Doesn’t think Kitty 
will see lunch time. They get a line in her and are putting fluids into her and 
giving her oxygen. Wife is freaking out.

Vet says they want to keep her over night. Nope. If she’s stressed and close to 
crossing the rainbow bridge, we don’t want it happening in a kennel in the back 
of the vet’s office. Vet says she wants to keep her until at least lunch time, 
when she’ll call us and give us an update.

I get home, wife is all worked up, understandably. Vet calls. Kitty is resting 
quietly and responsive. I’m coming to get her.

I get Kitty home and she’s clearly out of sorts. We walk around the house and 
refamiliarize, despite her being a little wobbly. Normal behavior after being 
out of the house. She gets a tin of her favorite turkey and gravy and goes to 
sleep in her favorite place on the couch.

Vet calls later in the day and wants to know if she’s OK. Tells me she probably 
won’t make it to the next day.

She’s sitting on my desk in front of my keyboard right now, asleep. Faced Death 
and kicked it’s ass. She’s definitely not 100%, but close. Based on behaviors 
we’ve seen in other cats we’ve owned it’s likely she suffered some sort of mild 
stroke from the stress. Her vocalizations have changed, which is weird. She 
sometimes sits and stares, like she’s forgotten why she was there. She’s still 
doing all of her daily stuff, like walking around the pool with me every 
morning and taking a few drinks from it.

So it’s unlikely we’ll mess with the nuclear stuff. We’ll let Nature take it’s 
course until she’s in pain or can’t function comfortably then we’ll help her 
go. You hate like heck to lose a pet, but when I think about it I also think 
about when the wife rescued her 16+ years ago from the side of the road in a 
thunderstorm, all 8 ounces of her. Vet said she probably wouldn’t make it to 
the next day then, but like now, she’s not going to let someone dictate when 
she goes, dang it.

-D/King Kitty
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Re: [MBZ] SPAM ? Aeronca

2020-04-02 Thread MG via Mercedes

I would have to ask my BIL about the details. In 
any case it is all in pieces. The wings are wood 
and partially still covered. Hasn't been flyable 
since probably the 70's when he bought it as a 
student at Embry Riddle. It was in his garage 
since then. Lots of boxes of all kinds of stuff, 
including the complete repair manuals in a counter 
stand. Must be about a foot thick in the binding. 
The engine was a small like 65 hp continental also 
in pieces.


He took it apart with the intention of rebuilding 
it and then life got in the way when he went to 
work for Delta up in Atlanta.


G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

Does it have log books?
Engine?
What year?
How long since flown or had annual?
Wood wing spars?
Stored inside?
I'm interested maybe...

On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 3:26 PM MG via Mercedes 
wrote:


If you want another project I have almost all of
the parts for an Aeronca Chief.

MG

OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

I pulled the roller up and down the runway today, and managed to get the
Tailwind onto it's gear today. The second airframe is the Woddy's Pusher
project, with the Cessna in the back.
[image: on wheels 1.jpg]

On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 7:08 PM Craig via Mercedes 
On Thu, 2 Apr 2020 00:04:57 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 wrote:


 I went fishing. Caught one very small brook trout. Saw two others rise
but not take the lure.My equipment was somewhat wanting. Most of the
lures I have are too big. I ordered some more today. -Curt

Do you ever use salmon eggs?

I remember using those when we went camping in the California central
coastal range in about 1964.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] SPAM ?

2020-04-02 Thread MG via Mercedes

It has/had an n number and was registered wouldn't 
know where to find the data plate.


OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

I would be, if I thought I'd live long enough to get it to flying condition
...

It needs a data plate and N number to be able to be legal.

On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 5:26 PM MG via Mercedes 
wrote:


If you want another project I have almost all of
the parts for an Aeronca Chief.



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Re: [MBZ] OT - Home Standby Generator

2020-04-02 Thread Craig via Mercedes

On Thu, 2 Apr 2020 17:04:34 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Now I’m trying to figure out how I’m going to set up a fuel supply.
> Might end up with a 500 gallon LP tank in the front yard and some
> directional drilling done to get the line under the driveway and around
> the back of the house. The alternative is a couple of 120 gallon tanks
> in the back yard, but with this unit using 4 gallons per hour at full
> load that doesn’t provide a very long run time in the event of an
> extended outage. Actual consumption will probably be more like 1-1/2 to
> 2 gallons per hour, but even then that only gives me roughly four days
> of run time if the tanks were full (assume 80% capacity when their
> full, or around 100 gallons.)

How often do you have a full load?

What is your normal load?

Is the 1.5 - 2 gallons/hour the no-/low-load fuel consumption?
400 gallons / 1.5 - 2 gallons/hr = 200 - 267 hours.

Would an additional smaller, less fuel consumptive generator be suitable
for low loads, with switching to the larger generator for high loads be
worth the trouble?

Would you do like Shirley and I did when we lived south of Calhan, CO,
and were our own power company, and turn the generator off when you go
to sleep?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 560 temp sender etc.

Temp sender should be on top of the engine, probably around the thermostat. I 
don't recall where they are on a M117(?) but that’s a pretty common place for 
most of their gassers.

Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but the later W126 chassis cars had electronic 
speedos, I thought.

The “mold” which it certainly could be, if white, is a common issue with 
clusters of that vintage. Moisture causes the surface of the plastic to break 
down and you get the white spotty appearance. I don’t believe there’s a fix.

-D

> On Apr 2, 2020, at 7:31 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I got the new caliper and front pads on the 560SEC last evening and drove it 
> a bit to bed them in, all was well once I poured in some tranny fluid but I 
> noticed the temp gauge was inop and the speedo too. I was degreasing the 
> engine a bit and might have knocked a wire loose or something. 
> 
> Anyone know offhand where the sender is on the engine?  I’m too lazy to dig 
> into the CD to look it up. 
> 
> I should take a look at the speedo cable too I guess. And the instrument 
> cluster looks all moldy inside, I guess I should pull it and clean it 
> sometime. 
> 
> I think I’m going to borrow a buddy’s powerwasher and blast it underneath and 
> whatever I can get on the engine that won’t mess up the ignition bits and 
> whatever other electrical stuff. It’s pretty grungy. I should be able to see 
> various leaks then and tend to them. 
> 
> The car is entertaining, certainly nothing particularly car show quality. 
> 
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[MBZ] 560 temp sender etc.

2020-04-02 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes

I got the new caliper and front pads on the 560SEC last evening and drove it a 
bit to bed them in, all was well once I poured in some tranny fluid but I 
noticed the temp gauge was inop and the speedo too. I was degreasing the engine 
a bit and might have knocked a wire loose or something. 

Anyone know offhand where the sender is on the engine?  I’m too lazy to dig 
into the CD to look it up. 

I should take a look at the speedo cable too I guess. And the instrument 
cluster looks all moldy inside, I guess I should pull it and clean it sometime. 

I think I’m going to borrow a buddy’s powerwasher and blast it underneath and 
whatever I can get on the engine that won’t mess up the ignition bits and 
whatever other electrical stuff. It’s pretty grungy. I should be able to see 
various leaks then and tend to them. 

The car is entertaining, certainly nothing particularly car show quality. 

--FT
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Re: [MBZ] 400e centrifugal supercharger project

I've been driving around with a turbocharged GDI lean burn engine at 10:1.
30-33psi MAP (16-19 boost) is quite attainable.
87 octane recommended, but that requires a lot of knock retard.
When it gets warmer than 50 deg outside I run 93 octane in it.
Mitch.

On Thu, April 2, 2020 12:52 pm, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote:
> Wondering how supercharging a motor with 11:1 pistons is going to work.
> But
> the m119 turbo was their LMP race motor for quite a while, so maybe it
> will be ok.

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Re: [MBZ] SPAM ?

I would be, if I thought I'd live long enough to get it to flying condition
...

It needs a data plate and N number to be able to be legal.

On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 5:26 PM MG via Mercedes 
wrote:

> If you want another project I have almost all of
> the parts for an Aeronca Chief.
>
-- 
OK Don

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pause and reflect." Mark Twain

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2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Home Standby Generator

I dont get it.

On 4/2/2020 4:54 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Really? I don’t how much clearer I could make it. Look:

On Apr 2, 2020, at 5:32 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:

Do the math, man. I laid it out in my post in the last paragraph..

-D

On Apr 2, 2020, at 5:13 PM, Andrew Strasfogel mailto:astrasfo...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Wow, that sounds like a good alternative to the noisy generators. Roughly how
many hours of operation per 100 gals of propane going full bore?

On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 5:05 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

Now I’m trying to figure out how I’m going to set up a fuel supply. Might end
up with a 500 gallon LP tank in the front yard and some directional drilling
done to get the line under the driveway and around the back of the house. The
alternative is a couple of 120 gallon tanks in the back yard, but
with this unit using 4 gallons per hour at full load
that doesn’t provide a very long run time in the event of an extended outage.
Actual consumption will probably be more like 1-1/2 to 2 gallons per hour,
but even then that only gives me roughly four days of run time if the tanks
were full
(assume 80% capacity when they're full, or around 100 gallons.)

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Re: [MBZ] 1993 turbo diesel

One was a daily driver until the ignition switch started getting 
sticky.  Need to replace the cylinder.  Another is basically ready to 
start driving just needs the instrument cluster sent out to be rebuilt.  
3rd one needs an IP installed.  4th one supposedly has a bad engine but 
have not dug into it.  5th one has the head and related parts in the trunk.

On 4/2/2020 4:45 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

Do you drive them or use for parts?

On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 5:16 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

Holy cow somebody needs to grab that. Looks pretty good and not
many of them come up for sale. I do happen to currently have 5 of
them at the moment.

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> On Apr 2, 2020, at 12:10 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>
> 140?  Doesn't look half bad except for the paint
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/534545883910646
>
> $2,300
> Vehicles

> Listed a week ago in Tucker, GA

>
>
> About This Vehicle…
>
> Driven 260,000 miles
> Automatic transmission
>
>
> Seller's description…
>
> 1993 turbo diesel in good running condition. 260K Just a clear
coat of paint peel of some where. If you know, this car will go
for ever. Make me offer.
>
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Re: [MBZ] 1993 turbo diesel

The one I have had for the last 12 or so years burns about a qt every 
500 miles, and has been that way the whole time.  Well, it burned more 
than that before I replaced the bent rod.  Now its probably a qt every 
1k miles.


On 4/2/2020 1:44 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

That works. Once they start burning oil they don’t tend to last long as I 
recall.

-D


On Apr 2, 2020, at 1:26 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

So get it cheaper and drive it til it gets all blowed up!

-_FT

On 4/2/20 1:11 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Yes, that’s a W140 diesel with the rod bender.

-D


On Apr 2, 2020, at 1:09 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

140?  Doesn't look half bad except for the paint

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/534545883910646

$2,300
Vehicles 
Listed a week ago in Tucker, GA 



About This Vehicle…

Driven 260,000 miles
Automatic transmission


Seller's description…

1993 turbo diesel in good running condition. 260K Just a clear coat of paint 
peel of some where. If you know, this car will go for ever. Make me offer.

--
--FT

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Re: [MBZ] SPAM ?

2020-04-02 Thread G Mann via Mercedes

Does it have log books?
Engine?
What year?
How long since flown or had annual?
Wood wing spars?
Stored inside?
I'm interested maybe...

On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 3:26 PM MG via Mercedes 
wrote:

> If you want another project I have almost all of
> the parts for an Aeronca Chief.
>
> MG
>
> OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
> > I pulled the roller up and down the runway today, and managed to get the
> > Tailwind onto it's gear today. The second airframe is the Woddy's Pusher
> > project, with the Cessna in the back.
> > [image: on wheels 1.jpg]
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 7:08 PM Craig via Mercedes  >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, 2 Apr 2020 00:04:57 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >>>  I went fishing. Caught one very small brook trout. Saw two others rise
> >>> but not take the lure.My equipment was somewhat wanting. Most of the
> >>> lures I have are too big. I ordered some more today. -Curt
> >> Do you ever use salmon eggs?
> >>
> >> I remember using those when we went camping in the California central
> >> coastal range in about 1964.
> >>
> >>
> >> Craig
> >>
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[MBZ] Talk About Random....

2020-04-02 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2644259078989346/



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Re: [MBZ] SPAM ?

2020-04-02 Thread MG via Mercedes

If you want another project I have almost all of 
the parts for an Aeronca Chief.


MG

OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

I pulled the roller up and down the runway today, and managed to get the
Tailwind onto it's gear today. The second airframe is the Woddy's Pusher
project, with the Cessna in the back.
[image: on wheels 1.jpg]

On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 7:08 PM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:


On Thu, 2 Apr 2020 00:04:57 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 wrote:


 I went fishing. Caught one very small brook trout. Saw two others rise
but not take the lure.My equipment was somewhat wanting. Most of the
lures I have are too big. I ordered some more today. -Curt

Do you ever use salmon eggs?

I remember using those when we went camping in the California central
coastal range in about 1964.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 400e centrifugal supercharger project

Water/ethanol injection with computerized ignition timing ---

On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 5:02 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Wondering how supercharging a motor with 11:1 pistons is going to work. But
> the m119 turbo was their LMP race motor for quite a while, so maybe it will
> be ok.
>
>
-- 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - COVID 19 Stuff/Non-political

Recent paper from China showing that a significant percentage of patients
present with GI-only symptoms, just FYI:

https://journals.lww.com/ajg/Documents/COVID_Digestive_Symptoms_AJG_Preproof.pdf

On Sat, Mar 28, 2020, 1:54 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
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> Thanks, Karl.
>
> He self isolates pretty well, so that’s not an issue. He didn’t present
> with any respiratory issues. If he has what the wife brought home, it’s not
> so much diarrhea as things are just really loose. That’s why I was saying I
> was surprised that all of the known stuff I threw at it seemed to have
> little to no effect. It’s just gradually gotten more normal over a week’s
> time.
>
> We’ll keep a close eye, for sure. Again, thank you!
>
> Dan
>
> > On Mar 28, 2020, at 4:36 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > It could easily be covid 19 unfortunately. Diarrhea is one of the known
> > presenting symptoms in a significant minority of patients. Of course it
> > could be tens of other viruses or bacteria also.
> >
> > The doc probably doesnt have any access to a test for non hospitalized
> > patients. That is changing rapidly, but we are still not at that level of
> > test availability. So thay have no way to rule out covid 19.
> >
> > You can get one forecast for hospital bed shortages here. Florida peaks
> > later I think:
> >
> >
> https://covid19.healthdata.org/?fbclid=IwAR22wuagEnK_CIc2Httm1vTDRU8LAE7QQK6wNlq4McYnbqOt3CFk5vp5Mao
> >
> > Either way chicken soup, sleep and keep a weather eye out in 5-7 days if
> he
> > isnt looking right. Significant shortness of breath is about the only
> > reason to go to an ER.
> >
> > That's the tough part of this thing - variable presentation. Many people
> > seem to not get super sick at all, and the ones who do have a variety of
> > symptoms. Might not be a bad idea to isolate him from you if he has any
> > respiratory stuff at all.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Mar 28, 2020, 11:18 AM Craig via Mercedes  >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 11:54:48 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >>> Mom was kind enough to bring something like this into the house
> >>> recently, which I’ve been dealing with as well. No fever, but
> >>> definitely tearing up the lower GI. Nothing, I mean nothing, has
> >>> affected the symptoms. Yogurt, cheese, anything that would normally
> >>> slow or stop things up has absolutely no effect.
> >>
> >> When Shirley was a Registered Dietitian, she used the A-B-C diet of
> >> applesauce, bananas, and cottage cheese on the hospital floor.
> >>
> >>
> >> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Home Standby Generator

Thanks.

On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 5:55 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Really? I don’t how much clearer I could make it. Look:
>
> > On Apr 2, 2020, at 5:32 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
> >
> > Do the math, man. I laid it out in my post in the last paragraph..
> >
> > -D
> >
> >> On Apr 2, 2020, at 5:13 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  > wrote:
> >>
> >> Wow, that sounds like a good alternative to the noisy generators.
> Roughly how many hours of operation per 100 gals of propane going full bore?
> >>
> >> On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 5:05 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> >>
> >> Now I’m trying to figure out how I’m going to set up a fuel supply.
> Might end up with a 500 gallon LP tank in the front yard and some
> directional drilling done to get the line under the driveway and around the
> back of the house. The alternative is a couple of 120 gallon tanks in the
> back yard, but
>
> >> with this unit using 4 gallons per hour at full load
>
> >> that doesn’t provide a very long run time in the event of an extended
> outage.
>
> >> Actual consumption will probably be more like 1-1/2 to 2 gallons per
> hour,
>
> >> but even then that only gives me roughly four days of run time if the
> tanks were full
>
> >> (assume 80% capacity when they're full, or around 100 gallons.)
>
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Re: [MBZ] 400e centrifugal supercharger project

Wondering how supercharging a motor with 11:1 pistons is going to work. But
the m119 turbo was their LMP race motor for quite a while, so maybe it will
be ok.

On Wed, Apr 1, 2020, 11:07 PM G Mann via Mercedes 
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> English translation:
> "Here, hold my beer, and watch this."
>
> On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 6:43 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Anyone here speak German?
> >
> > https://youtu.be/IwaJ70FhTDk
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Home Standby Generator

Really? I don’t how much clearer I could make it. Look:

> On Apr 2, 2020, at 5:32 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
> 
> Do the math, man. I laid it out in my post in the last paragraph..
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Apr 2, 2020, at 5:13 PM, Andrew Strasfogel > > wrote:
>> 
>> Wow, that sounds like a good alternative to the noisy generators.  Roughly 
>> how many hours of operation per 100 gals of propane going full bore?
>> 
>> On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 5:05 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Now I’m trying to figure out how I’m going to set up a fuel supply. Might 
>> end up with a 500 gallon LP tank in the front yard and some directional 
>> drilling done to get the line under the driveway and around the back of the 
>> house. The alternative is a couple of 120 gallon tanks in the back yard, but

>> with this unit using 4 gallons per hour at full load

>> that doesn’t provide a very long run time in the event of an extended outage.

>> Actual consumption will probably be more like 1-1/2 to 2 gallons per hour,

>> but even then that only gives me roughly four days of run time if the tanks 
>> were full

>> (assume 80% capacity when they're full, or around 100 gallons.)

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Home Standby Generator

Don't see it.

On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 5:33 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> Do the math, man. I laid it out in my post in the last paragraph..
>
> -D
>
> > On Apr 2, 2020, at 5:13 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
> wrote:
> >
> > Wow, that sounds like a good alternative to the noisy generators.
> Roughly how many hours of operation per 100 gals of propane going full bore?
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 5:05 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> > Propane. No natural gas close by - at least not any closer than about
> two streets away, unfortunately.
> >
> > Kohler. 24RCL, 24kW Toyota industrial engine powered water cooled 1800
> RPM set. Set on a concrete pad with a sound attenuated enclosure. 200 amp
> automatic transfer switch. Everything in the house will be powered by this.
> >
> > No Generac. Had I done an air cooled set, I would have considered
> Generac, but I want an 1800 rpm water cooled unit as they’re far quieter,
> have lower fuel consumption per kW, and last a lot longer. They are more
> expensive, easily 30%-40% more than air cooled. Air cooled is pretty much
> anything below 22kW and runs at 3600 rpm. Loud, sucks fuel and has much
> higher maintenance costs and requirements. Longevity is far less as well.
> >
> > Now I’m trying to figure out how I’m going to set up a fuel supply.
> Might end up with a 500 gallon LP tank in the front yard and some
> directional drilling done to get the line under the driveway and around the
> back of the house. The alternative is a couple of 120 gallon tanks in the
> back yard, but with this unit using 4 gallons per hour at full load that
> doesn’t provide a very long run time in the event of an extended outage.
> Actual consumption will probably be more like 1-1/2 to 2 gallons per hour,
> but even then that only gives me roughly four days of run time if the tanks
> were full (assume 80% capacity when their full, or around 100 gallons.)
> >
> > -D
> >
> > > On Apr 2, 2020, at 4:47 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  > wrote:
> > >
> > > Natural gas or oil?  Is t a Generac?
> > >
> > > On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 1:08 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com   mercedes@okiebenz.com >> wrote:
> > > Pulled the trigger on my whole house standby generator project today.
> Gave the dealer the go-ahead and will be signing papers and sending out a
> deposit check tomorrow.
> > >
> > > Had to have the “prepper” conversation with the wife this morning,
> making sure she understood that when a natural disaster occurs and we're
> the only ones in the neighborhood with electricity, AC, lights,
> refrigeration, etc. that we’re not an arm of the American Red Cross. Tough
> decision to make, but you gotta draw the line somewhere. She’s on board
> with it so onward and upward, so to speak.
> > >
> > > It will take 4-6 weeks for permitting so nothing is going to happen
> right away.
> > >
> > > Got the jump on the hurricane season work, as people will start
> getting freaky about that come May or so (hurricane season is
> June-November).
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Re: [MBZ] 1993 turbo diesel

Do you drive them or use for parts?

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> Holy cow somebody needs to grab that. Looks pretty good and not many of
> them come up for sale. I do happen to currently have 5 of them at the
> moment.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Apr 2, 2020, at 12:10 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> >
> > 140?  Doesn't look half bad except for the paint
> >
> > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/534545883910646
> >
> > $2,300
> > Vehicles  >
> > Listed a week ago in Tucker, GA <
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/108142199213645/>
> >
> >
> > About This Vehicle…
> >
> > Driven 260,000 miles
> > Automatic transmission
> >
> >
> > Seller's description…
> >
> > 1993 turbo diesel in good running condition. 260K Just a clear coat of
> paint peel of some where. If you know, this car will go for ever. Make me
> offer.
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Re: [MBZ] Nice looking 76 280S

Gelb (yellow) or heliosgelb (sun yellow) were popular colors for about 5
years, starting on '74.  I really like both.

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> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/156550995604874
>
> 1976 Mercedes-Benz S-Class Sedan
> $1,550
> Vehicles 
> Listed 19 hours ago in Loganville, GA
> 
>
>
>   About This Vehicle…
>
> Driven 270,000 miles
> Automatic transmission
> Exterior color: Tan · Interior color: Tan
> Fuel type: Gasoline
> Excellent condition <
> https://www.facebook.com/business/help/979881538883930>
>
>
>   Seller's description…
>
> Runs and drives clean title
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Home Standby Generator

Do the math, man. I laid it out in my post in the last paragraph..

-D

> On Apr 2, 2020, at 5:13 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> Wow, that sounds like a good alternative to the noisy generators.  Roughly 
> how many hours of operation per 100 gals of propane going full bore?
> 
> On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 5:05 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes  > wrote:
> Propane. No natural gas close by - at least not any closer than about two 
> streets away, unfortunately.
> 
> Kohler. 24RCL, 24kW Toyota industrial engine powered water cooled 1800 RPM 
> set. Set on a concrete pad with a sound attenuated enclosure. 200 amp 
> automatic transfer switch. Everything in the house will be powered by this.
> 
> No Generac. Had I done an air cooled set, I would have considered Generac, 
> but I want an 1800 rpm water cooled unit as they’re far quieter, have lower 
> fuel consumption per kW, and last a lot longer. They are more expensive, 
> easily 30%-40% more than air cooled. Air cooled is pretty much anything below 
> 22kW and runs at 3600 rpm. Loud, sucks fuel and has much higher maintenance 
> costs and requirements. Longevity is far less as well.
> 
> Now I’m trying to figure out how I’m going to set up a fuel supply. Might end 
> up with a 500 gallon LP tank in the front yard and some directional drilling 
> done to get the line under the driveway and around the back of the house. The 
> alternative is a couple of 120 gallon tanks in the back yard, but with this 
> unit using 4 gallons per hour at full load that doesn’t provide a very long 
> run time in the event of an extended outage. Actual consumption will probably 
> be more like 1-1/2 to 2 gallons per hour, but even then that only gives me 
> roughly four days of run time if the tanks were full (assume 80% capacity 
> when their full, or around 100 gallons.)
> 
> -D
> 
> > On Apr 2, 2020, at 4:47 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  > > wrote:
> > 
> > Natural gas or oil?  Is t a Generac?
> > 
> > On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 1:08 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
> > >> wrote:
> > Pulled the trigger on my whole house standby generator project today. Gave 
> > the dealer the go-ahead and will be signing papers and sending out a 
> > deposit check tomorrow.
> > 
> > Had to have the “prepper” conversation with the wife this morning, making 
> > sure she understood that when a natural disaster occurs and we're the only 
> > ones in the neighborhood with electricity, AC, lights, refrigeration, etc. 
> > that we’re not an arm of the American Red Cross. Tough decision to make, 
> > but you gotta draw the line somewhere. She’s on board with it so onward and 
> > upward, so to speak.
> > 
> > It will take 4-6 weeks for permitting so nothing is going to happen right 
> > away.
> > 
> > Got the jump on the hurricane season work, as people will start getting 
> > freaky about that come May or so (hurricane season is June-November).
> > 
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Re: [MBZ] $700300CD

2020-04-02 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes

Too late.
Dwight E. Giles Jr.
Wickford RI


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> Yeah that's what I'm thinking too
>
> --FT
>
> On 4/2/20 2:13 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> > That’s worth $700 I would think.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
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> >> On Apr 2, 2020, at 11:47 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Doesn't look half bad
> >>
> >> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/782155505645086
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Stuck on a cruise for over a month

Passengers who test negative could be removed, isolating the infected
ones.  This would assume adequate ventilators and medical personnel are
availale to care for those left on board...

On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 9:37 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> I logged onto FlightAware (flight tracking site) Sunday night and was
> stunned at how little air traffic there was. Even around Orlando, which is
> busy as heck at all times, it’s was pretty quiet.
>
> -D
>
> > On Apr 2, 2020, at 9:15 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > They even have some of them anchored out at see out or Galveston from
> what I have heard.
> >
> > The Tulsa airport looks like a used car lot of AA planes. They have 737,
> 777, 787s parked in every nook and cranny. They even have the crosswind
> runway closed and planes parked in it from one end to the other.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Apr 2, 2020, at 8:03 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> We’ve got a couple Carnival ships and other cruise ships docked at the
> Port of Tampa, not just at the cruise terminal but in the commercial ship
> docks, too. I presume those are empty except for crew and are just sitting
> there. I can see them from my office window.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>> On Apr 1, 2020, at 11:30 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
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> https://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/coast-guard-cruise-ships-stay-sea-sick-onboard-69915070
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Re: [MBZ] 1998 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 320 4MATIC Wagon 4D,$2,500

Sold

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> On Apr 2, 2020, at 12:12 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> This is kinda interesting
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1176559316008868
> 
> 1998 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 320 4MATIC Wagon 4D
> $2,500
> Vehicles 
> Listed a day ago in Raleigh, NC 
> 
> 
> 
> How This Price Compares…
> 
> 
> Kelley Blue Book®
> 
> Private Party Value
> 
> $2,500
> LowHigh
> 
> 
> $987 – $2,566
> 
> Price range for similar Mercedes-Benz e-class in very good condition · How 
> It's Calculated 
> 
> 
> About This Vehicle…
> 
> Driven 205,186 miles
> Automatic transmission
> Exterior color: Black · Interior color: Tan
> Fuel type: Gasoline
> 18.0 MPG city · 26.0 MPG highway · 21.0 MPG combined
> Very good condition 
> 
> 
> Typical Features…
> 
> *
>   Alloy Wheels
> *
>   4MATIC AWD
> *
>   ABS (4-Wheel)
> *
>   AM/FM Stereo
> *
> 
> 
> Seller's description…
> 
> 1998 Mercedes Benz E320 wagon, black, tan leather interior, custom Mercedes 
> rims, 3 rows, everything works, $2500 or best offer
> Raleigh, NC
> Location is approximate
> 
> 
> Seller Information…
> 
> Dion Hicks 
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Re: [MBZ] 1993 turbo diesel

Holy cow somebody needs to grab that. Looks pretty good and not many of them 
come up for sale. I do happen to currently have 5 of them at the moment. 

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> On Apr 2, 2020, at 12:10 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
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> 140?  Doesn't look half bad except for the paint
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/534545883910646
> 
> $2,300
> Vehicles 
> Listed a week ago in Tucker, GA 
> 
> 
> 
> About This Vehicle…
> 
> Driven 260,000 miles
> Automatic transmission
> 
> 
> Seller's description…
> 
> 1993 turbo diesel in good running condition. 260K Just a clear coat of paint 
> peel of some where. If you know, this car will go for ever. Make me offer.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Home Standby Generator

Wow, that sounds like a good alternative to the noisy generators.  Roughly
how many hours of operation per 100 gals of propane going full bore?

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Propane. No natural gas close by - at least not any closer than about two
> streets away, unfortunately.
>
> Kohler. 24RCL, 24kW Toyota industrial engine powered water cooled 1800 RPM
> set. Set on a concrete pad with a sound attenuated enclosure. 200 amp
> automatic transfer switch. Everything in the house will be powered by this.
>
> No Generac. Had I done an air cooled set, I would have considered Generac,
> but I want an 1800 rpm water cooled unit as they’re far quieter, have lower
> fuel consumption per kW, and last a lot longer. They are more expensive,
> easily 30%-40% more than air cooled. Air cooled is pretty much anything
> below 22kW and runs at 3600 rpm. Loud, sucks fuel and has much higher
> maintenance costs and requirements. Longevity is far less as well.
>
> Now I’m trying to figure out how I’m going to set up a fuel supply. Might
> end up with a 500 gallon LP tank in the front yard and some directional
> drilling done to get the line under the driveway and around the back of the
> house. The alternative is a couple of 120 gallon tanks in the back yard,
> but with this unit using 4 gallons per hour at full load that doesn’t
> provide a very long run time in the event of an extended outage. Actual
> consumption will probably be more like 1-1/2 to 2 gallons per hour, but
> even then that only gives me roughly four days of run time if the tanks
> were full (assume 80% capacity when their full, or around 100 gallons.)
>
> -D
>
> > On Apr 2, 2020, at 4:47 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
> wrote:
> >
> > Natural gas or oil?  Is t a Generac?
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 1:08 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> > Pulled the trigger on my whole house standby generator project today.
> Gave the dealer the go-ahead and will be signing papers and sending out a
> deposit check tomorrow.
> >
> > Had to have the “prepper” conversation with the wife this morning,
> making sure she understood that when a natural disaster occurs and we're
> the only ones in the neighborhood with electricity, AC, lights,
> refrigeration, etc. that we’re not an arm of the American Red Cross. Tough
> decision to make, but you gotta draw the line somewhere. She’s on board
> with it so onward and upward, so to speak.
> >
> > It will take 4-6 weeks for permitting so nothing is going to happen
> right away.
> >
> > Got the jump on the hurricane season work, as people will start getting
> freaky about that come May or so (hurricane season is June-November).
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Home Standby Generator

Propane. No natural gas close by - at least not any closer than about two 
streets away, unfortunately.

Kohler. 24RCL, 24kW Toyota industrial engine powered water cooled 1800 RPM set. 
Set on a concrete pad with a sound attenuated enclosure. 200 amp automatic 
transfer switch. Everything in the house will be powered by this.

No Generac. Had I done an air cooled set, I would have considered Generac, but 
I want an 1800 rpm water cooled unit as they’re far quieter, have lower fuel 
consumption per kW, and last a lot longer. They are more expensive, easily 
30%-40% more than air cooled. Air cooled is pretty much anything below 22kW and 
runs at 3600 rpm. Loud, sucks fuel and has much higher maintenance costs and 
requirements. Longevity is far less as well.

Now I’m trying to figure out how I’m going to set up a fuel supply. Might end 
up with a 500 gallon LP tank in the front yard and some directional drilling 
done to get the line under the driveway and around the back of the house. The 
alternative is a couple of 120 gallon tanks in the back yard, but with this 
unit using 4 gallons per hour at full load that doesn’t provide a very long run 
time in the event of an extended outage. Actual consumption will probably be 
more like 1-1/2 to 2 gallons per hour, but even then that only gives me roughly 
four days of run time if the tanks were full (assume 80% capacity when their 
full, or around 100 gallons.)

-D

> On Apr 2, 2020, at 4:47 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> Natural gas or oil?  Is t a Generac?
> 
> On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 1:08 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes  > wrote:
> Pulled the trigger on my whole house standby generator project today. Gave 
> the dealer the go-ahead and will be signing papers and sending out a deposit 
> check tomorrow.
> 
> Had to have the “prepper” conversation with the wife this morning, making 
> sure she understood that when a natural disaster occurs and we're the only 
> ones in the neighborhood with electricity, AC, lights, refrigeration, etc. 
> that we’re not an arm of the American Red Cross. Tough decision to make, but 
> you gotta draw the line somewhere. She’s on board with it so onward and 
> upward, so to speak.
> 
> It will take 4-6 weeks for permitting so nothing is going to happen right 
> away.
> 
> Got the jump on the hurricane season work, as people will start getting 
> freaky about that come May or so (hurricane season is June-November).
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 1998 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 320 4MATIC Wagon 4D,$2,500

NLA.

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> This is kinda interesting
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1176559316008868
>
> 1998 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 320 4MATIC Wagon 4D
> $2,500
> Vehicles 
> Listed a day ago in Raleigh, NC
> 
>
>
>   How This Price Compares…
>
>
>   Kelley Blue Book®
>   <
> https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.kbb.com%2F%3Ffbclid%3DIwAR3CuwR4cD5zxX3x1IuD_JeNSrVL4oUdNRYWHPH3UGQAo6Hs59Ld9zg6mZA&h=AT1e1ayQm2RZVCsmwNFUec0s0QdrDT4tBrFbml8SUkHRrT8bLrrtM3tEN2nRClaDf4hK2loVVXuvyJ_CHbdn_wbQs3vGl4Lp-Ae3_rOSLhyc3MZb--OD1RL-AW74frQ7MqpG3j1O
> >
>   Private Party Value
>
> $2,500
> LowHigh
>
>
>   $987 – $2,566
>
> Price range for similar Mercedes-Benz e-class in very good condition ·
> How It's Calculated
> 
>
>
>   About This Vehicle…
>
> Driven 205,186 miles
> Automatic transmission
> Exterior color: Black · Interior color: Tan
> Fuel type: Gasoline
> 18.0 MPG city · 26.0 MPG highway · 21.0 MPG combined
> Very good condition <
> https://www.facebook.com/business/help/979881538883930>
>
>
>   Typical Features…
>
>   *
> Alloy Wheels
>   *
> 4MATIC AWD
>   *
> ABS (4-Wheel)
>   *
> AM/FM Stereo
>   *
>
>
>   Seller's description…
>
> 1998 Mercedes Benz E320 wagon, black, tan leather interior, custom
> Mercedes rims, 3 rows, everything works, $2500 or best offer
> Raleigh, NC
> Location is approximate
>
>
>   Seller Information…
>
> Dion Hicks 
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Home Standby Generator

Natural gas or oil?  Is t a Generac?

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> Pulled the trigger on my whole house standby generator project today. Gave
> the dealer the go-ahead and will be signing papers and sending out a
> deposit check tomorrow.
>
> Had to have the “prepper” conversation with the wife this morning, making
> sure she understood that when a natural disaster occurs and we're the only
> ones in the neighborhood with electricity, AC, lights, refrigeration, etc.
> that we’re not an arm of the American Red Cross. Tough decision to make,
> but you gotta draw the line somewhere. She’s on board with it so onward and
> upward, so to speak.
>
> It will take 4-6 weeks for permitting so nothing is going to happen right
> away.
>
> Got the jump on the hurricane season work, as people will start getting
> freaky about that come May or so (hurricane season is June-November).
>
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Re: [MBZ] Nice CLK, smoking --- I have the tittle

Valve job?

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> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2375082992781641
>
> 2006 Mercedes-Benz CLK-Class
> $1,899
> Vehicles 
> Listed 19 hours ago in Roswell, GA
> 
>
>
>   About This Vehicle…
>
> Driven 150,000 miles
> Automatic transmission
> Exterior color: Red · Interior color: Black
>
>
>   Seller's description…
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> Mercedes CLK 320 coupe. Engine problems but start, it is smoking. I have
> the tittle.
>
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Re: [MBZ] cheap 81 SLC

I've seen worse, although the fuzzy photos may be masking some
shabbiness/rust.

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> A little ratty but cheap
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/212704813329069
>
> 1981 Mercedes-Benz SLC-Class
> $1,200
> Vehicles 
> Listed 4 days ago in Garner, NC
> 
>
>
>   About This Vehicle…
>
> Driven 146,369 miles
> Automatic transmission
> Exterior color: Black · Interior color: Tan
> Good condition 
>
>
>   Seller's description…
>
> 1980 Mercedes SLC Selling Whole. Runs Good Motor and Trans. Needs Paint,
> Interior and TLC. For More Info CALL [hidden information]
>
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Re: [MBZ] This is half tempting

2020-04-02 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes

Go for it!

Max Dillon
Charleston SC


Apr 2, 2020 2:30:12 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes :

> Guy says the diff is making Unhappy Sounds so he isn't driving it. Sent me a 
> video of it starting and running, sounds good, no warnings. Says one tire is 
> worn, not sure what that is about. Looks like it could use a good cleaning 
> but it's a 15yo car... Atlanta is like a 5hr drive, but since I am stir crazy 
> that could be interesting. Beat him down... I don't know, just homebound 
> speculating here...
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 4/2/20 1:16 PM, Floyd Thursby wrote:
> 
> > 
> > I could pull the parts from the slammed no-title E500 I have here. I > 
> > wonder if
> > 
> > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/653282805448277
> > 
> > 2005 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 500 Sedan 4D
> > $1,550
> > Vehicles 
> > Listed 2 days ago in Atlanta, GA > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > About This Vehicle…
> > 
> > Driven 188,681 miles
> > Automatic transmission
> > Exterior color: Gold · Interior color: Tan
> > Fuel type: Gasoline
> > 15.0 MPG city · 23.0 MPG highway · 18.0 MPG combined
> > Fair condition 
> > 
> > 
> > Typical Features…
> > 
> > *
> > Leather
> > *
> > Moon Roof
> > *
> > Alloy Wheels
> > *
> > ABS (4-Wheel)
> > *
> > 
> > 
> > Seller's description…
> > 
> > Clean title, Strong V8 starts rite up no leaks, > smoking,overheating.Rear 
> > end/Differential is malfunctioning causing > the car to not move.
> > -- > --FT
> > 
> 
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[MBZ] FCP oil sale

2020-04-02 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes

Was searching for what oil my Volvo needs, and saw this with a
"discount" flag

5W40 Leichtlauf High Tech Engine Oil (5 Liter) - Liqui Moly LM2332

Fully synthetic motor oil for all-season use in gasoline and diesel
engines without diesel particulate filters (DPF)

MB-Approval 229.5

$36.05 (~$7.20/liter; $6.80/quart)

Not sure what the normal price is.

https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/5w-40-motor-oil-5-liter-lubro-moly-lm3864

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] 1993 turbo diesel

Yeah, and if they’re getting ready to let go, the owner will know it as the oil 
consumption gets crazy stupid, like a quart every 500 miles or less.

I’m pretty well convinced that the engines still on the road are past the 
grenade stage unless they’ve been garage queens and rarely driven. As with the 
350SDL I had, it’s near impossible to tell if the engine has been rebuilt or 
repaired unless you’ve got service records. If it was replaced, sure, as it 
won’t match the original serial number, but if it was rebuilt there’s no way of 
knowing.

-D

> On Apr 2, 2020, at 2:48 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Dan was just saying that any rodbenders still on the road probably
> aren't going to have trouble at this point.
> 
> Bigger worry is probably rust? Though if a lifetime GA car maybe OK.
> 
> Allan
> 
> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  writes:
> 
>> So get it cheaper and drive it til it gets all blowed up!
>> 
>> -_FT
>> 
>> On 4/2/20 1:11 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Yes, that’s a W140 diesel with the rod bender.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Apr 2, 2020, at 1:09 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
  wrote:

 140?  Doesn't look half bad except for the paint

 https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/534545883910646

 $2,300
 Vehicles 
 Listed a week ago in Tucker, GA 

 About This Vehicle…

 Driven 260,000 miles
 Automatic transmission

 Seller's description…

 1993 turbo diesel in good running condition. 260K Just a clear coat of 
 paint peel of some where. If you know, this car will go for ever. Make me 
 offer.

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Re: [MBZ] 1993 turbo diesel

2020-04-02 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes

Dan was just saying that any rodbenders still on the road probably
aren't going to have trouble at this point.

Bigger worry is probably rust? Though if a lifetime GA car maybe OK.

Allan

Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  writes:

> So get it cheaper and drive it til it gets all blowed up!
>
> -_FT
>
> On 4/2/20 1:11 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Yes, that’s a W140 diesel with the rod bender.
>>
>> -D
>>
>>> On Apr 2, 2020, at 1:09 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> 140?  Doesn't look half bad except for the paint
>>>
>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/534545883910646
>>>
>>> $2,300
>>> Vehicles 
>>> Listed a week ago in Tucker, GA 
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> About This Vehicle…
>>>
>>> Driven 260,000 miles
>>> Automatic transmission
>>>
>>>
>>> Seller's description…
>>>
>>> 1993 turbo diesel in good running condition. 260K Just a clear coat of 
>>> paint peel of some where. If you know, this car will go for ever. Make me 
>>> offer.
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] 1993 turbo diesel

I should clarify that statement. Once they start consuming oil they don’t tend 
to last long.

-D

> On Apr 2, 2020, at 2:44 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> That works. Once they start burning oil they don’t tend to last long as I 
> recall.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Apr 2, 2020, at 1:26 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> So get it cheaper and drive it til it gets all blowed up!
>> 
>> -_FT
>> 
>> On 4/2/20 1:11 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Yes, that’s a W140 diesel with the rod bender.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Apr 2, 2020, at 1:09 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 140?  Doesn't look half bad except for the paint
 
 https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/534545883910646
 
 $2,300
 Vehicles 
 Listed a week ago in Tucker, GA 
 
 
 
 About This Vehicle…
 
 Driven 260,000 miles
 Automatic transmission
 
 
 Seller's description…
 
 1993 turbo diesel in good running condition. 260K Just a clear coat of 
 paint peel of some where. If you know, this car will go for ever. Make me 
 offer.
 
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Re: [MBZ] 1993 turbo diesel

That works. Once they start burning oil they don’t tend to last long as I 
recall.

-D

> On Apr 2, 2020, at 1:26 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> So get it cheaper and drive it til it gets all blowed up!
> 
> -_FT
> 
> On 4/2/20 1:11 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Yes, that’s a W140 diesel with the rod bender.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Apr 2, 2020, at 1:09 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 140?  Doesn't look half bad except for the paint
>>> 
>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/534545883910646
>>> 
>>> $2,300
>>> Vehicles 
>>> Listed a week ago in Tucker, GA 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> About This Vehicle…
>>> 
>>> Driven 260,000 miles
>>> Automatic transmission
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Seller's description…
>>> 
>>> 1993 turbo diesel in good running condition. 260K Just a clear coat of 
>>> paint peel of some where. If you know, this car will go for ever. Make me 
>>> offer.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] $700300CD


Yeah that's what I'm thinking too

--FT

On 4/2/20 2:13 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

That’s worth $700 I would think.

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 2, 2020, at 11:47 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

Doesn't look half bad

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/782155505645086

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Re: [MBZ] This is half tempting

Guy says the diff is making Unhappy Sounds so he isn't driving it.  Sent 
me a video of it starting and running, sounds good, no warnings.  Says 
one tire is worn, not sure what that is about. Looks like it could use a 
good cleaning but it's a 15yo car... Atlanta is like a 5hr drive, but 
since I am stir crazy that could be interesting.  Beat him down...  I 
don't know, just homebound speculating here...


--FT

On 4/2/20 1:16 PM, Floyd Thursby wrote:


I could pull the parts from the slammed no-title E500 I have here.  I 
wonder if


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/653282805448277

2005 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 500 Sedan 4D
$1,550
Vehicles 
Listed 2 days ago in Atlanta, GA 




  About This Vehicle…

Driven 188,681 miles
Automatic transmission
Exterior color: Gold · Interior color: Tan
Fuel type: Gasoline
15.0 MPG city · 23.0 MPG highway · 18.0 MPG combined
Fair condition 


  Typical Features…

 *
Leather
 *
Moon Roof
 *
Alloy Wheels
 *
ABS (4-Wheel)
 *


  Seller's description…

Clean title, Strong V8 starts rite up no leaks, 
smoking,overheating.Rear end/Differential is malfunctioning causing 
the car to not move.

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Re: [MBZ] $700300CD

That’s worth $700 I would think. 

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> Doesn't look half bad
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/782155505645086
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Re: [MBZ] 1993 turbo diesel


So get it cheaper and drive it til it gets all blowed up!

-_FT

On 4/2/20 1:11 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Yes, that’s a W140 diesel with the rod bender.

-D


On Apr 2, 2020, at 1:09 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

140?  Doesn't look half bad except for the paint

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/534545883910646

$2,300
Vehicles 
Listed a week ago in Tucker, GA 



About This Vehicle…

Driven 260,000 miles
Automatic transmission


Seller's description…

1993 turbo diesel in good running condition. 260K Just a clear coat of paint 
peel of some where. If you know, this car will go for ever. Make me offer.

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Re: [MBZ] OT PSA


It's on the utuber, share away!

-_FT

On 4/2/20 12:50 PM, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes wrote:

That was very interesting! Do I have permission to share this information?
Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
2019 Sprinter 650 miles, Low MIleage Lutgard AKA Der DoodleWagen
1982 240D, High Mileage Hildegard, still in the shop

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 2, 2020, at 7:48 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

My friend Ana is a professor of immunology at the College of Charleston.  She 
put together this guest lecture vid for our other friend Prof. Phil's Ecology 
class about the Covid-19 corona virus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0OEQFzb3IA

No politics, just good basic science info about how this thing works.  Watch 
and learn!

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[MBZ] This is half tempting

I could pull the parts from the slammed no-title E500 I have here.  I 
wonder if


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2005 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 500 Sedan 4D
$1,550
Vehicles 
Listed 2 days ago in Atlanta, GA 




 About This Vehicle…

Driven 188,681 miles
Automatic transmission
Exterior color: Gold · Interior color: Tan
Fuel type: Gasoline
15.0 MPG city · 23.0 MPG highway · 18.0 MPG combined
Fair condition 


 Typical Features…

 *
   Leather
 *
   Moon Roof
 *
   Alloy Wheels
 *
   ABS (4-Wheel)
 *


 Seller's description…

Clean title, Strong V8 starts rite up no leaks, smoking,overheating.Rear 
end/Differential is malfunctioning causing the car to not move.


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[MBZ] 1998 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 320 4MATIC Wagon 4D,$2,500


This is kinda interesting

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1998 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 320 4MATIC Wagon 4D
$2,500
Vehicles 
Listed a day ago in Raleigh, NC 




 How This Price Compares…


 Kelley Blue Book®
 

 Private Party Value

$2,500
LowHigh


 $987 – $2,566

Price range for similar Mercedes-Benz e-class in very good condition · 
How It's Calculated 




 About This Vehicle…

Driven 205,186 miles
Automatic transmission
Exterior color: Black · Interior color: Tan
Fuel type: Gasoline
18.0 MPG city · 26.0 MPG highway · 21.0 MPG combined
Very good condition 


 Typical Features…

 *
   Alloy Wheels
 *
   4MATIC AWD
 *
   ABS (4-Wheel)
 *
   AM/FM Stereo
 *


 Seller's description…

1998 Mercedes Benz E320 wagon, black, tan leather interior, custom 
Mercedes rims, 3 rows, everything works, $2500 or best offer

Raleigh, NC
Location is approximate


 Seller Information…

Dion Hicks 

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Re: [MBZ] 1993 turbo diesel

Yes, that’s a W140 diesel with the rod bender.

-D

> On Apr 2, 2020, at 1:09 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 140?  Doesn't look half bad except for the paint
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/534545883910646
> 
> $2,300
> Vehicles 
> Listed a week ago in Tucker, GA 
> 
> 
> 
> About This Vehicle…
> 
> Driven 260,000 miles
> Automatic transmission
> 
> 
> Seller's description…
> 
> 1993 turbo diesel in good running condition. 260K Just a clear coat of paint 
> peel of some where. If you know, this car will go for ever. Make me offer.
> 
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[MBZ] 1993 turbo diesel


140?  Doesn't look half bad except for the paint

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/534545883910646

$2,300
Vehicles 
Listed a week ago in Tucker, GA 




 About This Vehicle…

Driven 260,000 miles
Automatic transmission


 Seller's description…

1993 turbo diesel in good running condition. 260K Just a clear coat of 
paint peel of some where. If you know, this car will go for ever. Make 
me offer.


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[MBZ] OT - Home Standby Generator

Pulled the trigger on my whole house standby generator project today. Gave the 
dealer the go-ahead and will be signing papers and sending out a deposit check 
tomorrow.

Had to have the “prepper” conversation with the wife this morning, making sure 
she understood that when a natural disaster occurs and we're the only ones in 
the neighborhood with electricity, AC, lights, refrigeration, etc. that we’re 
not an arm of the American Red Cross. Tough decision to make, but you gotta 
draw the line somewhere. She’s on board with it so onward and upward, so to 
speak.

It will take 4-6 weeks for permitting so nothing is going to happen right away.

Got the jump on the hurricane season work, as people will start getting freaky 
about that come May or so (hurricane season is June-November).

-D
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[MBZ] Nice CLK, smoking --- I have the tittle


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2006 Mercedes-Benz CLK-Class
$1,899
Vehicles 
Listed 19 hours ago in Roswell, GA 




 About This Vehicle…

Driven 150,000 miles
Automatic transmission
Exterior color: Red · Interior color: Black


 Seller's description…

Mercedes CLK 320 coupe. Engine problems but start, it is smoking. I have 
the tittle.


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[MBZ] cheap 81 SLC


A little ratty but cheap

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1981 Mercedes-Benz SLC-Class
$1,200
Vehicles 
Listed 4 days ago in Garner, NC 




 About This Vehicle…

Driven 146,369 miles
Automatic transmission
Exterior color: Black · Interior color: Tan
Good condition 


 Seller's description…

1980 Mercedes SLC Selling Whole. Runs Good Motor and Trans. Needs Paint, 
Interior and TLC. For More Info CALL [hidden information]


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Re: [MBZ] Cheap E320 4M, some issues

Probably needs a fan controller. I like the hole punched in the passenger 
airbag light.

Beater. So many, many better examples of W210 cars out there for not a lot more 
$$.

-D

> On Apr 2, 2020, at 12:59 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Looks half nice but maybe scary issues
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/523222031726280
> 
> 1998 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 320 4MATIC Sedan 4D
> $1,200
> Vehicles 
> Listed 3 hours ago in Ocean Isle Beach, NC 
> 
> 
> 
> About This Vehicle…
> 
> Driven 208,500 miles
> Automatic transmission
> Exterior color: White
> Fuel type: Gasoline
> 18.0 MPG city · 24.0 MPG highway · 20.0 MPG combined
> Fair condition 
> 
> 
> Typical Features…
> 
> *
>   Alloy Wheels
> *
>   4MATIC AWD
> *
>   ABS (4-Wheel)
> *
>   AM/FM Stereo
> *
> 
> 
> Seller's description…
> 
> This has been a very good car for our family but we no longer need it. Clean 
> and well cared for. The fan for ac and heat is not working and the 
> transmission needs to be looked at. Title in hand.
> 
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[MBZ] Cheap E320 4M, some issues


Looks half nice but maybe scary issues

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/523222031726280

1998 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 320 4MATIC Sedan 4D
$1,200
Vehicles 
Listed 3 hours ago in Ocean Isle Beach, NC 




 About This Vehicle…

Driven 208,500 miles
Automatic transmission
Exterior color: White
Fuel type: Gasoline
18.0 MPG city · 24.0 MPG highway · 20.0 MPG combined
Fair condition 


 Typical Features…

 *
   Alloy Wheels
 *
   4MATIC AWD
 *
   ABS (4-Wheel)
 *
   AM/FM Stereo
 *


 Seller's description…

This has been a very good car for our family but we no longer need it. 
Clean and well cared for. The fan for ac and heat is not working and the 
transmission needs to be looked at. Title in hand.


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Re: [MBZ] OT PSA

2020-04-02 Thread Kevin Kraly via Mercedes

That was very interesting! Do I have permission to share this information?
Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
2019 Sprinter 650 miles, Low MIleage Lutgard AKA Der DoodleWagen
1982 240D, High Mileage Hildegard, still in the shop

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> On Apr 2, 2020, at 7:48 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> My friend Ana is a professor of immunology at the College of Charleston.  
> She put together this guest lecture vid for our other friend Prof. Phil's 
> Ecology class about the Covid-19 corona virus
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0OEQFzb3IA
> 
> No politics, just good basic science info about how this thing works.  Watch 
> and learn!
> 
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[MBZ] Nice looking 76 280S


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1976 Mercedes-Benz S-Class Sedan
$1,550
Vehicles 
Listed 19 hours ago in Loganville, GA 




 About This Vehicle…

Driven 270,000 miles
Automatic transmission
Exterior color: Tan · Interior color: Tan
Fuel type: Gasoline
Excellent condition 


 Seller's description…

Runs and drives clean title

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[MBZ] $700300CD


Doesn't look half bad

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Re: [MBZ] SPAM ?

No, lower and slower, open cockpit.
https://1drv.ms/u/s!AmP2I_A7CyfKuWymH8NxZAj_AtJF?e=UtIYXV
https://1drv.ms/u/s!AmP2I_A7CyfKuT_XwSIj9MaqmGrW?e=0Ywd7w
https://1drv.ms/u/s!AmP2I_A7CyfKuXChjeDwGublWveR?e=IlECp9
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerosport_Woody_Pusher

On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 10:30 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Pusher = Luscombe? Low and slow?
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Apr 2, 2020, at 11:18 AM, OK Don via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > As Mitchell said - speed. Red Hamilton has averaged over 230mph in SARL
> > races with an O-320 engine (150HP stock - his is not stock).
> > The Tailwind is for speed, the Woody's Pusher is for low and slow sight
> > seeing and photos, the Cessna is for load hauling, and something to fly
> > while I'm building. Once the two projects are flying, the Cessna will
> > probably be replaced by something that can fly up-side-down.
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 8:56 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Tailwind. Cool stuff. Why did you pick that over the buttercup?
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > OK Don
> >
> > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> > pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> >
> > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
> Wernher
> > Von Braun
> > 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] One for Michigan Mitch

On Thu, April 2, 2020 11:08 am, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> Yeah, I think Iâll pass:
>
>
> GM LEMON LAW BUY BACK VEHICLE

Don't know about Volts, but most of the Spark buybacks were "customer
doesn't like driving an EV so we bought it back when we got tired of
his/her bitching".

It's probably more likely with a Volt that there was something wrong that
the dealer tech couldn't find. GM then thought they fixed it and put it
back on the market. How much do you trust the GM tech center?

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Re: [MBZ] SPAM ?

Pusher = Luscombe? Low and slow?

-D


> On Apr 2, 2020, at 11:18 AM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> As Mitchell said - speed. Red Hamilton has averaged over 230mph in SARL
> races with an O-320 engine (150HP stock - his is not stock).
> The Tailwind is for speed, the Woody's Pusher is for low and slow sight
> seeing and photos, the Cessna is for load hauling, and something to fly
> while I'm building. Once the two projects are flying, the Cessna will
> probably be replaced by something that can fly up-side-down.
> 
> On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 8:56 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Tailwind. Cool stuff. Why did you pick that over the buttercup?
>> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> OK Don
> 
> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> 
> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”  Wernher
> Von Braun
> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] SPAM ?

As Mitchell said - speed. Red Hamilton has averaged over 230mph in SARL
races with an O-320 engine (150HP stock - his is not stock).
The Tailwind is for speed, the Woody's Pusher is for low and slow sight
seeing and photos, the Cessna is for load hauling, and something to fly
while I'm building. Once the two projects are flying, the Cessna will
probably be replaced by something that can fly up-side-down.

On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 8:56 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Tailwind. Cool stuff. Why did you pick that over the buttercup?
>

-- 
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pause and reflect." Mark Twain

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Von Braun
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2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] One for Michigan Mitch

Yeah, I think I’ll pass:

GM LEMON LAW BUY BACK VEHICLE

-D

> On Apr 2, 2020, at 10:33 AM, Mitchell Haley EA via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> On Thu, April 2, 2020 9:05 am, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> What does a nice 2017 Volt go for?
> 
> Looks like 300-350% of the Jalopnik car.
> https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=546315578
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[MBZ] OT PSA

My friend Ana is a professor of immunology at the College of 
Charleston.  She put together this guest lecture vid for our other 
friend Prof. Phil's Ecology class about the Covid-19 corona virus


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0OEQFzb3IA

No politics, just good basic science info about how this thing works.  
Watch and learn!


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Re: [MBZ] One for Michigan Mitch

On Thu, April 2, 2020 9:05 am, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> What does a nice 2017 Volt go for?

Looks like 300-350% of the Jalopnik car.
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=546315578

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Re: [MBZ] Stuck on a cruise for over a month

I logged onto FlightAware (flight tracking site) Sunday night and was stunned 
at how little air traffic there was. Even around Orlando, which is busy as heck 
at all times, it’s was pretty quiet.

-D

> On Apr 2, 2020, at 9:15 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> They even have some of them anchored out at see out or Galveston from what I 
> have heard. 
> 
> The Tulsa airport looks like a used car lot of AA planes. They have 737, 777, 
> 787s parked in every nook and cranny. They even have the crosswind runway 
> closed and planes parked in it from one end to the other. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 2, 2020, at 8:03 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> We’ve got a couple Carnival ships and other cruise ships docked at the Port 
>> of Tampa, not just at the cruise terminal but in the commercial ship docks, 
>> too. I presume those are empty except for crew and are just sitting there. I 
>> can see them from my office window.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Apr 1, 2020, at 11:30 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> https://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/coast-guard-cruise-ships-stay-sea-sick-onboard-69915070
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Re: [MBZ] ponton diesel no rust

2020-04-02 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes

Yeah, I stuck that up a couple of weeks ago. 
That looks like a big project. Many things to source out. 

Bob R

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> On Apr 2, 2020, at 3:52 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
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> 
> I think that’s been posted before. Sure looks familiar.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Apr 1, 2020, at 9:48 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> https://tucson.craigslist.org/cto/d/tucson-1960-mercedes-benz-190d/7093394304.html
>> 
>>> On Tue, Mar 31, 2020, 5:00 PM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Cool. Kinda spendy, but cool.
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Re: [MBZ] Stuck on a cruise for over a month

They even have some of them anchored out at see out or Galveston from what I 
have heard. 

The Tulsa airport looks like a used car lot of AA planes. They have 737, 777, 
787s parked in every nook and cranny. They even have the crosswind runway 
closed and planes parked in it from one end to the other. 

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> We’ve got a couple Carnival ships and other cruise ships docked at the Port 
> of Tampa, not just at the cruise terminal but in the commercial ship docks, 
> too. I presume those are empty except for crew and are just sitting there. I 
> can see them from my office window.
> 
> -D
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Re: [MBZ] One for Michigan Mitch

What does a nice 2017 Volt go for?

-D

> On Apr 1, 2020, at 6:01 PM, Mitchell Haley EA via Mercedes 
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> I'd want them to hand it over fully charged for a test drive.
> Then I'd put it in EV mode, drive it 25 miles, and see how many kWh the
> dash display thought I'd used and what percent was left. From that info
> you can calculate a reasonable estimate of current battery capacity.
> 
> Then you can decide whether a nicely appointed overweight Cruze that
> doesn't need gas is worth as much as a nicely appointed and less
> overweight diesel Cruze, for I think a 140k 2014 diesel is worth about 6k
> also.
> 
> That said, I'd rather have a 2017 Volt for the same reasons I'd rather
> have a 2017 Cruze. But you're not buying a clean 2017 Volt for $6k.
> 
> 
> On Wed, April 1, 2020 4:58 pm, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>> 78 percent say it's a nice price.
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Re: [MBZ] Stuck on a cruise for over a month

We’ve got a couple Carnival ships and other cruise ships docked at the Port of 
Tampa, not just at the cruise terminal but in the commercial ship docks, too. I 
presume those are empty except for crew and are just sitting there. I can see 
them from my office window.

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Re: [MBZ] What I've Been Up To Lately...

2020-04-02 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes

On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 7:28 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Nice! Some serious scrounging going on there.
>

Thankee!

ObMercedes:  Dragged out the battery charger to recharge the 300E's battery
this ayem.  Really should run it about a bit and give it some exercise...

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Re: [MBZ] What I've Been Up To Lately...

Nice! Some serious scrounging going on there.

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> On Apr 2, 2020, at 8:12 AM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes 
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> https://ogrforum.ogaugerr.com/topic/under-the-hood-roll-your-own-steeplecab-for-only-pennies
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[MBZ] What I've Been Up To Lately...

2020-04-02 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes

https://ogrforum.ogaugerr.com/topic/under-the-hood-roll-your-own-steeplecab-for-only-pennies

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Re: [MBZ] SPAM ?

On Wed, April 1, 2020 9:55 pm, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote:
> Tailwind. Cool stuff. Why did you pick that over the buttercup?

Probably because the Buttercup's Vne is not any better than his Cessna.

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Re: [MBZ] ponton diesel no rust