Re: [MBZ] Gold status

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Considering the damage we did to our air travel system after 9-11, the 
terrorists won.  


> -Original Message-
> From:  Dan  Penoff via Mercedes
> 
> I was Platinum on Northwest for seven years straight. It sucked when I stopped
> traveling for business, as I had forgotten what it was like to fly in coach.
> 
> Road warriors I talk to today say that upgrades are nearly impossible to get 
> in
> the present day mileage programs. Why bother unless you get upgrades or
> access to the lounges?
> 
> -D
> 
> > On May 4, 2020, at 6:37 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> >
> > They will be bankrupt soon. Use 'em while they are good.
> >
> > Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes  writes:
> >
> >> Take some short hops. Although AA are the worst ever
> >>
> >> --FT
> >> Sent from iPhone
> >>
> >>> On May 4, 2020, at 6:17 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I was 1 Flight away from gold status on American at the beginning of
> March. Then the beer virus hit. American lowered the mark so today I rolled to
> good. Now I’m 3 flights away from platinum.
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] Polizei 123

[Clay via Mercedes]

That car was quite famous.  There were more than a handful of people who asked 
if they could take pictures with it.  Cops really liked getting a photo op.

clay 

I have no pronouns please do not refer to me.



> On May 4, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Some guy in the 123 FB group was asking about making a polizei 123 and 
> someone commented that there was a polizei 126 around Seattle. Must be 
> Clay’s. He’s famous. 
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone

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Re: [MBZ] $4K for a 1979 450SL with 40K Original Miles

[Clay via Mercedes]

My indy had one of those I assisted him finding a new home.

Belonged the man’s wife, who left him a widower at least a dozen years back.  
He stored it, as his daughters has fond memories of riding with mom when it was 
new and they were small.  Particular daughter married and had kids, convinced 
Dad it would be great to fix up the SL.  He said by all means, go right ahead.  
Off it goes to the indy who serviced the car since new when purchased from the 
dealership.  He gets into it and finds all manner of age issues, which daughter 
tells him to fix a few of to make it road worthy once more.  His bill grows to 
$8k+, so he stops work and submits billing to date so he can keep on making 
repairs.

Then it sits for a year at the shop, while father and daughter argue about who 
is supposed to be footing the bill.  By the time I got involved it was 
drivable, looked like a well driven #4, but had a very long list of items still 
wanting attention.  I declined the purchase but did detail it and then put it 
onto FleaBay, as well as local CL.  IIRC, the thing sold for around $6k

clay 

I have no pronouns please do not refer to me.



> On May 4, 2020, at 9:36 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> "Grandpa's car" means it has been sitting for awhile, gramps didn't do a lot 
> with it or to it so it has tons of deferred maintenance plus needs correct 
> wheels and tires, the grands realized it was a total project and have 
> unrealistic expectations about the car because all they did was google some 
> values and say yeah let's get $4k!!!  wooo wooo!
> 
> --FT


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Blower resistor replacement

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Who’s your doc?

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On May 4, 2020, at 7:59 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> The thing I have come to grips with is that I don’t go out trying to find 
> something plant based that tastes like something animal based. Make sense? I 
> know, no matter how fancy a plant based product is, it is not going to taste 
> like whatever it is supposed to be replacing. If I want sausage biscuits and 
> gravy, I will make SAUSAGE-from-a-pig gravy and not tell the sawbones. 
> There is a small mom and pop vegan restaurant near my home that has something 
> that is supposed to be what you would order if you wanted sweet and sour 
> chicken. They utilize this soy based stuff he sorta kinda developed, it’s 
> seasoned well, panko breaded and fried slightly and it is quite good when 
> swished around with the veggies and pineapple in the sweet and sour sauce he 
> makes…but it ain’t sweet and sour chicken. If you order that expecting it to 
> taste like chicken you will be disappointed, but it is really quite tasty.  
> 
> My cancer doc @ MD Anderson in Houston has sent me enough current 
> science/studies that show quite impressively that men my age with my exact 
> stage of prostate cancer have benefited greatly from switching to a plant 
> based/whole food life style. I’ll get another data point on my graph July 1st 
> (provided my appoints don’t get shoved out again on account of the covid)  to 
> see if my new life style is holding this effing cancer in check. I reckon 
> changing a way of eating, after being well persuaded by science, is certainly 
> better than surgery of chemo right now.
> 
> Bob R
> 
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
> t
> From: OK Don via Mercedes
> Sent: Monday, May 4, 2020 2:20 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Cc: OK Don
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Blower resistor replacement
> 
> From what I've read, it is better tasting and more realistic texture, but
> it's not any better for you than the real thing. Too much chemistry,
> modified stuff, etc.
> 
> OK - so I looked it up:
> 
> *Are plant-based meats healthier?*
> 
> So what does the research say? According to O'Connor, Impossible and Beyond
> burgers are made with somewhat similar combinations of plant products, such
> as pea protein, coconut and canola oils, potato starch and rice protein, or
> proteins from soy and potato. And overall, when compared with a beef
> burger, the plant-based burgers are similar in protein and calories but
> contain less saturated fat and no cholesterol—although they do have about
> four times the amount of sodium of a beef burger.
> 
> However, there's been little research on the subject to date. While
> research suggests that eating less red meat and more nuts, legumes, and
> other plant-based foods has health benefits, such as lower chronic disease
> risk and mortality, a recent *JAMA* report did not find conclusive
> benefits. Frank Hu, chair of the nutrition department at the *Harvard T.H.
> Chan School of Public Health* who worked on the report, said the
> researchers were unable to determine whether processed burgers that rely on
> soy and pea protein offer the same benefits as eating more legumes and less
> red meat.
> 
> Hu said that studies are currently underway on whether plant-based burgers
> are a healthier alternative to regular meat burgers independent of any
> sides.
> 
> For now, Hu said he considers plant-based meats as "transitional foods" for
> people trying to adopt a healthier diet. But, he noted, that depends on how
> you eat it. For example, Hu explained that eating a plant-based hamburger
> offers no dietary benefits if you pair it with a traditional burger's
> typical sides: French fries and a soda.
> 
> https://www.advisory.com/daily-briefing/2019/12/06/plant-meat
> 
> YMMV
> 
>> On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 4:00 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I've been working on real biscuits. Its getting there. Mostly I use my
>> homemade biscuits for topping chicken pot pie. Works out good in a
>> casserole dish.
>> For B&G I use a good fatty sausage then add a few scoops of flour and pour
>> the milk all right into the pan, deglazes the pan while you're at it.
>> I don't think I've ever had plant based sausage but Mark Rober's positive
>> review of Impossible and the other fake meat I can't think of the name of,
>> make me think I should try. Clearly its not the fake meat of yesteryear.
>> -Curt
>> 
>>On Monday, May 4, 2020, 4:54:26 PM EDT, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> You need to learn to make real biscuits!
>> 
>> RB
>> 
>> 
>>> On 04/05/2020 3:46 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Your blog reminded me of the fact my kids have thrust me into the lofty
>> realm of being an internet rock star at some point over the last couple of
>> weeks.
>>> Since my cancer diagnosis I have been sticking to the whole food, plant
>> based eating that my doctor has prescribed as part of the “active
>

Re: [MBZ] Gold status

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

I had BA gold status for a few years. That was nice. Free upgrades to business 
and first for BOS-LHR-BOS and other Euro destinations. BA first class and 
lounges were really nice. The Concorde lounge at LHR was astounding. 

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On May 4, 2020, at 8:50 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I was Platinum on Northwest for seven years straight. It sucked when I 
> stopped traveling for business, as I had forgotten what it was like to fly in 
> coach.
> 
> Road warriors I talk to today say that upgrades are nearly impossible to get 
> in the present day mileage programs. Why bother unless you get upgrades or 
> access to the lounges?
> 
> -D
> 
>> On May 4, 2020, at 6:37 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> They will be bankrupt soon. Use 'em while they are good.
>> 
>> Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes  writes:
>> 
>>> Take some short hops. Although AA are the worst ever
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> Sent from iPhone
>>> 
 On May 4, 2020, at 6:17 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 I was 1 Flight away from gold status on American at the beginning of 
 March. Then the beer virus hit. American lowered the mark so today I 
 rolled to good. Now I’m 3 flights away from platinum. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: [MBZ] Nice looking 124

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Yes I think the v8 124 cars can be a good deal. I have seen many of them go
for a lot less than I paid in great shape with 100k or so. The wiring
harness etc seems to scare people off, but they are high quality and mostly
fixable.

On Sun, May 3, 2020, 5:53 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I agree.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On May 3, 2020, at 7:10 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Considering what someone on this list paid for a better facelift W124,
> I think I'll pass.
> >
> > Rick
> >
> >
> >
> >   Original Message
> >
> >
> > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > Sent: May 3, 2020 6:09 PM
> > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > Cc: ka...@striplin.net
> > Subject: [MBZ] Nice looking 124
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Motherboard/Intel CPUs

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 With a super charger mine goes from empty to full in like 45 minutes, its 
amazing.I haven't been able to find anybody that makes a 2 port super charger. 
I bought some 2 port chargers online but they're not that fast. I like a 2 port 
charger when I travel, I've got my phone and my tablet. One charger with both 
cords coiled together...
-Curt

On Monday, May 4, 2020, 9:45:47 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 I have a G7 "play" edition, the smallest in the G7 line (still too big
for my taste, but it's about the smallest Android phone you can get that
isn't complete junk, so it's tolerable). I get similar battery life as
you and also it charges pretty fast.

Allan


Curt Raymond via Mercedes  writes:

>  My Motorola (Moto G7) phone will go at least 2 days on a charge unless I'm 
>watching a lot of video or video chatting. If I only use it to play music 
>it'll go 3 full days. My only complaint is that the camera isn't great, not as 
>good as the Moto X3 it replaced but on balance its fine.
> -Curt
>
>    On Monday, May 4, 2020, 7:27:33 PM EDT, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
> wrote:  
>  
>  I wonder how much "upgrading" is just changing things to make them use more 
>computing power for the same end.
>
> I have an old MacPro 2.1 (I think), and other than having to jump though 
> hoops to upgrade past 10.6.8, it does anything I need it to.  Main problem 
> these days is that no one updates "old" software (anything older than six 
> months, it seems), so I get web pages that won't work, have to buy new 
> software that does exactly the same thing the old stuff does but requires 
> "new" OS functions.
>
> Bloatware to the max!
>
> There have been few, if any, speed increases over the last decade (or two, 
> for that matter) -- silicon based CPUs aren't going to run over 3 GHz without 
> liquid nitrogen cooling, and more than four or six cores and the coordinating 
> software eats all the functional gains.
>
> Same deal with cell phones, I upgraded because Verizon is dropping CDMA/1x 
> service and my phone was that style.  A bit cranky, but a charge lasted a 
> week of moderate use.  New (used) Samsung has the be charged a couple times a 
> day and is a royal PITA to use as a phone.  Too small to use as a computer, 
> and the keyboard was obviously designed for small children, can't seem to 
> ever push just one key at a time with my XL sized fingers.
>
> I'm becoming an old grump.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Processed foods

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 We've started cooking a pound of bacon at a time, it stinks up the house, we 
might as well get it over with, it keeps good in the fridge. That pound lasts 
us 2 weeks. I do like having a little taste of bacon now and then.
If I manage to shoot a bunch of geese this fall I want to try making goose 
pastrami. Its a big thing in the goose hunting set and the pictures look really 
good. I'm going to ask my buddy Jon who owns "The Butt Stops Here" BBQ truck if 
he'll smoke it for me. While I'm at it maybe I'll commission a few pounds of 
bacon.
-Curt

On Monday, May 4, 2020, 9:33:01 PM EDT, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Salt is very much over-used in America, particularly in processed food.  It 
goes a long way to cover up the lack of flavor in processed foods, and the 
hang-over from salt preserved foods is still there.  Big difference between 
preventing spoilage and flavoring.

I cringe when I watch culinary shows, they teach chefs in all the major schools 
to use at least ten times as much salt as I would ever think of using, it goes 
in by the tablespoon.  My father died from heart disease in the mid 70's, and 
for the last year of his life we had completely unsalted food.  I still use 
very little.

My response to the "salt enhances the flavor" is that SALT is a flavor, and 
you've trained your taste buds to expect huge amounts.  

Back before Campbell's was forced to reduce the amount they were using, they 
had raised the level in their canned tomato soup to 4000 mg per serving, 
roughly a TABLESPOON of salt per cup.  I'm not sure there is that much salt in 
seawater.  I couldn't eat the stuff.

That much salt is for sure gonna cause the vast majority of people to retain 
large amounts of water, not a good thing especially as we get older.  

I used to date the top of my pound container of salt, just for fun.  Usually 
lasted me a year or 18 months unless I made a lot of pasta.  These days I use 
more than that because I've been salt preserving pork (bacon and Canadian bacon 
mostly), but even then I don't use huge amounts, and I don't eat more than 
three or four thin slices of bacon a couple of days a week.
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Motherboard/Intel CPUs

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

I have a G7 "play" edition, the smallest in the G7 line (still too big
for my taste, but it's about the smallest Android phone you can get that
isn't complete junk, so it's tolerable). I get similar battery life as
you and also it charges pretty fast.

Allan


Curt Raymond via Mercedes  writes:

>  My Motorola (Moto G7) phone will go at least 2 days on a charge unless I'm 
> watching a lot of video or video chatting. If I only use it to play music 
> it'll go 3 full days. My only complaint is that the camera isn't great, not 
> as good as the Moto X3 it replaced but on balance its fine.
> -Curt
>
> On Monday, May 4, 2020, 7:27:33 PM EDT, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
>  wrote:  
>  
>  I wonder how much "upgrading" is just changing things to make them use more 
> computing power for the same end.
>
> I have an old MacPro 2.1 (I think), and other than having to jump though 
> hoops to upgrade past 10.6.8, it does anything I need it to.  Main problem 
> these days is that no one updates "old" software (anything older than six 
> months, it seems), so I get web pages that won't work, have to buy new 
> software that does exactly the same thing the old stuff does but requires 
> "new" OS functions.
>
> Bloatware to the max!
>
> There have been few, if any, speed increases over the last decade (or two, 
> for that matter) -- silicon based CPUs aren't going to run over 3 GHz without 
> liquid nitrogen cooling, and more than four or six cores and the coordinating 
> software eats all the functional gains.
>
> Same deal with cell phones, I upgraded because Verizon is dropping CDMA/1x 
> service and my phone was that style.  A bit cranky, but a charge lasted a 
> week of moderate use.  New (used) Samsung has the be charged a couple times a 
> day and is a royal PITA to use as a phone.  Too small to use as a computer, 
> and the keyboard was obviously designed for small children, can't seem to 
> ever push just one key at a time with my XL sized fingers.
>
> I'm becoming an old grump.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Motherboard/Intel CPUs

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Good point.  Single machine so probably not an issue for me.


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Processed foods

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Salt is very much over-used in America, particularly in processed food.  It 
goes a long way to cover up the lack of flavor in processed foods, and the 
hang-over from salt preserved foods is still there.  Big difference between 
preventing spoilage and flavoring.

I cringe when I watch culinary shows, they teach chefs in all the major schools 
to use at least ten times as much salt as I would ever think of using, it goes 
in by the tablespoon.  My father died from heart disease in the mid 70's, and 
for the last year of his life we had completely unsalted food.  I still use 
very little.

My response to the "salt enhances the flavor" is that SALT is a flavor, and 
you've trained your taste buds to expect huge amounts.  

Back before Campbell's was forced to reduce the amount they were using, they 
had raised the level in their canned tomato soup to 4000 mg per serving, 
roughly a TABLESPOON of salt per cup.  I'm not sure there is that much salt in 
seawater.  I couldn't eat the stuff.

That much salt is for sure gonna cause the vast majority of people to retain 
large amounts of water, not a good thing especially as we get older.  

I used to date the top of my pound container of salt, just for fun.  Usually 
lasted me a year or 18 months unless I made a lot of pasta.  These days I use 
more than that because I've been salt preserving pork (bacon and Canadian bacon 
mostly), but even then I don't use huge amounts, and I don't eat more than 
three or four thin slices of bacon a couple of days a week.
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Re: [MBZ] Gold status

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 The ability to move seats at no cost is the greatest thing in the world.
-Curt

On Monday, May 4, 2020, 9:19:04 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 I think the main thing it gets you these days it the ability to select 
the economy plus seats if available at check in to get extra leg room.

On 5/4/2020 7:50 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> I was Platinum on Northwest for seven years straight. It sucked when I 
> stopped traveling for business, as I had forgotten what it was like to fly in 
> coach.
>
> Road warriors I talk to today say that upgrades are nearly impossible to get 
> in the present day mileage programs. Why bother unless you get upgrades or 
> access to the lounges?
>
> -D
>
>> On May 4, 2020, at 6:37 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> They will be bankrupt soon. Use 'em while they are good.
>>
>> Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes  writes:
>>
>>> Take some short hops. Although AA are the worst ever
>>>
>>> --FT
>>> Sent from iPhone
>>>
 On May 4, 2020, at 6:17 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
  wrote:

 I was 1 Flight away from gold status on American at the beginning of 
 March. Then the beer virus hit. American lowered the mark so today I 
 rolled to good. Now I’m 3 flights away from platinum.

 Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Processed foods

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 I think a lot of people are sodium poisoned to the point that they can't tell 
how salty a lot of food is. These days I eat a lot less salt and I'm much more 
sensitive to it. I pretty much can't eat in chain restaurants anymore.
We've been making our own pizza, I use the bread maker to mix the dough using 
just my regular bread recipe. It goes into the fridge for awhile, cold dough 
stretches easier. Then yesterday I decided to heavily flour and roll the dough 
which worked way better than trying to hand stretch a sticky doughball. We 
made spaghetti pizza and calzones, my 3 cup of flour bread recipe makes 3x 14" 
pizzas which serves almost 3 meals for the 2 of us.
-Curt

On Monday, May 4, 2020, 9:13:14 PM EDT, Jim Cathey 
 wrote:  
 
 > The sodium is a concern for me.

I, also, am concerned.  We made pizza the other day.  First bite and I thought 
"My God this is salty!"
The package claimed 860mg, or 37% RDA,  per serving (slice).  It wasn't just 
the toppings,
the crust itself was highly salted.

Never again, it was actively unpleasant.  There is a local restaurant whose 
pizza is
like this.  I won't darken its door again, either.

-- Jim
  
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Re: [MBZ] Gold status

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Is that like getting “Your Name” tattooed on your butt?

As in, “Yeah, baby, I got your name tattooed on my butt.”

-D

> On May 4, 2020, at 9:21 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> I've gotten 2 upgrades ever which is annoying because I was just starting to 
> get somewhere with American when I stopped traveling as much. The trick with 
> upgrades is of course to maximize everything, you need to get their credit 
> card, their app, etc. Probably helps if you get their logo tattooed on your 
> butt...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> On Monday, May 4, 2020, 8:50:54 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I was Platinum on Northwest for seven years straight. It sucked when I 
> stopped traveling for business, as I had forgotten what it was like to fly in 
> coach.
> 
> Road warriors I talk to today say that upgrades are nearly impossible to get 
> in the present day mileage programs. Why bother unless you get upgrades or 
> access to the lounges?
> 
> -D
> 
> > On May 4, 2020, at 6:37 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
> > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> > 
> > They will be bankrupt soon. Use 'em while they are good.
> > 
> > Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes  > > writes:
> > 
> >> Take some short hops. Although AA are the worst ever
> >> 
> >> --FT
> >> Sent from iPhone
> >> 
> >>> On May 4, 2020, at 6:17 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
> >>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> I was 1 Flight away from gold status on American at the beginning of 
> >>> March. Then the beer virus hit. American lowered the mark so today I 
> >>> rolled to good. Now I’m 3 flights away from platinum. 
> >>> 
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Blower resistor replacement

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Rule of thumb from back in the day is that 90% of the calorie intake of an 
animal is "wasted" -- that is, does not appear as weight due to growth.

As I pointed out in my Ecology class all those years ago, animals MOVE, and 
consume quite a bit of energy doing so, plus normal metabolism and maintaining 
temperature uses calories too.

Plants don't thermo-regulate, and movement is quite limited, being driven by 
the movement of water in soft tissues by and large.  No brain, so no nervous 
system burning glucose either!

What means in real terms is that a pound of meat takes a whole lot more 
sunlight to make than a pound of high oil plant seeds.

Point taken on the "feeding the masses" -- eventually we will eat the planet 
brown if the population keeps growing.
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Re: [MBZ] Gold status

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 I've gotten 2 upgrades ever which is annoying because I was just starting to 
get somewhere with American when I stopped traveling as much. The trick with 
upgrades is of course to maximize everything, you need to get their credit 
card, their app, etc. Probably helps if you get their logo tattooed on your 
butt...
-Curt

On Monday, May 4, 2020, 8:50:54 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 I was Platinum on Northwest for seven years straight. It sucked when I stopped 
traveling for business, as I had forgotten what it was like to fly in coach.

Road warriors I talk to today say that upgrades are nearly impossible to get in 
the present day mileage programs. Why bother unless you get upgrades or access 
to the lounges?

-D

> On May 4, 2020, at 6:37 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> They will be bankrupt soon. Use 'em while they are good.
> 
> Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes  writes:
> 
>> Take some short hops. Although AA are the worst ever
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 4, 2020, at 6:17 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I was 1 Flight away from gold status on American at the beginning of 
>>> March. Then the beer virus hit. American lowered the mark so today I rolled 
>>> to good. Now I’m 3 flights away from platinum. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Motherboard/Intel CPUs

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> I have an old MacPro 2.1 (I think), and other than having to jump though 
> hoops to upgrade past 10.6.8, it does anything I need it to.

If you use Time Machine, and have installed the patches to allow El Capitan to 
run, beware that the patches override the system's UUID, so all such systems 
will share the same backup set, if they're using a common server.  We have 
his-and-hers Mac Pro 2,1's, and a single backup server for the whole house, so 
I had to get a special version of the patch that had a different UUID for mine 
just so that both systems could be backed up independently.  (The backup server 
is RAID, with on- and off-site rotating backup sets.  Not something I wanted to 
duplicate.)

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Re: [MBZ] Gold status

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I think the main thing it gets you these days it the ability to select 
the economy plus seats if available at check in to get extra leg room.


On 5/4/2020 7:50 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

I was Platinum on Northwest for seven years straight. It sucked when I stopped 
traveling for business, as I had forgotten what it was like to fly in coach.

Road warriors I talk to today say that upgrades are nearly impossible to get in 
the present day mileage programs. Why bother unless you get upgrades or access 
to the lounges?

-D


On May 4, 2020, at 6:37 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes  
wrote:

They will be bankrupt soon. Use 'em while they are good.

Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes  writes:


Take some short hops. Although AA are the worst ever

--FT
Sent from iPhone


On May 4, 2020, at 6:17 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes  
wrote:

I was 1 Flight away from gold status on American at the beginning of March. 
Then the beer virus hit. American lowered the mark so today I rolled to good. 
Now I’m 3 flights away from platinum.

Sent from my iPhone


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Blower resistor replacement

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Theres a Thai fusion place in Portsmouth, NH that has "Short ribs". Well the 
first time we had them I didn't see the quotes and just ate them. The second 
time we went I noticed the quotes, realized it was a vegan restaurant and 
ordered them again. They're amazing, if I didn't know they weren't an animal 
product I would never guess.Probably full of sodium and things I can't 
pronounce but they're delicious...
Angie has surprised me by being really into the venison sausage I helped make. 
We had some in red sauce over spaghetti the other night and she raved about it. 
When I brought home 27# of sausage I wondered how we would eat it all before 
next year, now I'm wondering if it will last through the summer.
-Curt

On Monday, May 4, 2020, 7:59:28 PM EDT, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 The thing I have come to grips with is that I don’t go out trying to find 
something plant based that tastes like something animal based. Make sense? I 
know, no matter how fancy a plant based product is, it is not going to taste 
like whatever it is supposed to be replacing. If I want sausage biscuits and 
gravy, I will make SAUSAGE-from-a-pig gravy and not tell the sawbones. 
There is a small mom and pop vegan restaurant near my home that has something 
that is supposed to be what you would order if you wanted sweet and sour 
chicken. They utilize this soy based stuff he sorta kinda developed, it’s 
seasoned well, panko breaded and fried slightly and it is quite good when 
swished around with the veggies and pineapple in the sweet and sour sauce he 
makes…but it ain’t sweet and sour chicken. If you order that expecting it to 
taste like chicken you will be disappointed, but it is really quite tasty.  

My cancer doc @ MD Anderson in Houston has sent me enough current 
science/studies that show quite impressively that men my age with my exact 
stage of prostate cancer have benefited greatly from switching to a plant 
based/whole food life style. I’ll get another data point on my graph July 1st 
(provided my appoints don’t get shoved out again on account of the covid)  to 
see if my new life style is holding this effing cancer in check. I reckon 
changing a way of eating, after being well persuaded by science, is certainly 
better than surgery of chemo right now.

Bob R

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From: OK Don via Mercedes
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Blower resistor replacement

From what I've read, it is better tasting and more realistic texture, but
it's not any better for you than the real thing. Too much chemistry,
modified stuff, etc.

OK - so I looked it up:

*Are plant-based meats healthier?*

So what does the research say? According to O'Connor, Impossible and Beyond
burgers are made with somewhat similar combinations of plant products, such
as pea protein, coconut and canola oils, potato starch and rice protein, or
proteins from soy and potato. And overall, when compared with a beef
burger, the plant-based burgers are similar in protein and calories but
contain less saturated fat and no cholesterol—although they do have about
four times the amount of sodium of a beef burger.

However, there's been little research on the subject to date. While
research suggests that eating less red meat and more nuts, legumes, and
other plant-based foods has health benefits, such as lower chronic disease
risk and mortality, a recent *JAMA* report did not find conclusive
benefits. Frank Hu, chair of the nutrition department at the *Harvard T.H.
Chan School of Public Health* who worked on the report, said the
researchers were unable to determine whether processed burgers that rely on
soy and pea protein offer the same benefits as eating more legumes and less
red meat.

Hu said that studies are currently underway on whether plant-based burgers
are a healthier alternative to regular meat burgers independent of any
sides.

For now, Hu said he considers plant-based meats as "transitional foods" for
people trying to adopt a healthier diet. But, he noted, that depends on how
you eat it. For example, Hu explained that eating a plant-based hamburger
offers no dietary benefits if you pair it with a traditional burger's
typical sides: French fries and a soda.

https://www.advisory.com/daily-briefing/2019/12/06/plant-meat

YMMV

On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 4:00 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>  I've been working on real biscuits. Its getting there. Mostly I use my
> homemade biscuits for topping chicken pot pie. Works out good in a
> casserole dish.
> For B&G I use a good fatty sausage then add a few scoops of flour and pour
> the milk all right into the pan, deglazes the pan while you're at it.
> I don't think I've ever had plant based sausage but Mark Rober's positive
> review of Impossible and the other fake meat I can't think of the name of,
> make me think I should try. Clearly its not the fake meat of yesteryear.
> -Curt
>
>    

Re: [MBZ] OT - Motherboard/Intel CPUs

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 My Motorola (Moto G7) phone will go at least 2 days on a charge unless I'm 
watching a lot of video or video chatting. If I only use it to play music it'll 
go 3 full days. My only complaint is that the camera isn't great, not as good 
as the Moto X3 it replaced but on balance its fine.
-Curt

On Monday, May 4, 2020, 7:27:33 PM EDT, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 I wonder how much "upgrading" is just changing things to make them use more 
computing power for the same end.

I have an old MacPro 2.1 (I think), and other than having to jump though hoops 
to upgrade past 10.6.8, it does anything I need it to.  Main problem these days 
is that no one updates "old" software (anything older than six months, it 
seems), so I get web pages that won't work, have to buy new software that does 
exactly the same thing the old stuff does but requires "new" OS functions.

Bloatware to the max!

There have been few, if any, speed increases over the last decade (or two, for 
that matter) -- silicon based CPUs aren't going to run over 3 GHz without 
liquid nitrogen cooling, and more than four or six cores and the coordinating 
software eats all the functional gains.

Same deal with cell phones, I upgraded because Verizon is dropping CDMA/1x 
service and my phone was that style.  A bit cranky, but a charge lasted a week 
of moderate use.  New (used) Samsung has the be charged a couple times a day 
and is a royal PITA to use as a phone.  Too small to use as a computer, and the 
keyboard was obviously designed for small children, can't seem to ever push 
just one key at a time with my XL sized fingers.

I'm becoming an old grump.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Processed foods

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> The sodium is a concern for me.

I, also, am concerned.  We made pizza the other day.  First bite and I thought 
"My God this is salty!"
The package claimed 860mg, or 37% RDA,  per serving (slice).  It wasn't just 
the toppings,
the crust itself was highly salted.

Never again, it was actively unpleasant.  There is a local restaurant whose 
pizza is
like this.  I won't darken its door again, either.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Gold status

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 They're really not. A few years ago I started with them almost exclusively and 
I've had no trouble.US Air was the one I used to hate, I'd get routed through 
Philadelphia and get stranded there. When the bartenders at the Philadelphia 
Marriot say "So they got you again" when you walk in you know you've been 
stranded there a bunch.
-Curt

On Monday, May 4, 2020, 6:27:11 PM EDT, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Take some short hops. Although AA are the worst ever

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On May 4, 2020, at 6:17 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I was 1 Flight away from gold status on American at the beginning of March. 
> Then the beer virus hit. American lowered the mark so today I rolled to good. 
> Now I’m 3 flights away from platinum. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Gold status

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Last year I was two trips away from Platinum with American. Then our logistics 
group at work took a dump and failed to ship a bunch of projects I was going to 
do training on so I was basically idled November and December. I guess it 
doesn't really matter, I've only taken one trip this year and it was JetBlue.
-Curt

On Monday, May 4, 2020, 6:17:29 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 I was 1 Flight away from gold status on American at the beginning of March. 
Then the beer virus hit. American lowered the mark so today I rolled to good. 
Now I’m 3 flights away from platinum. 

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Blower resistor replacement

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 The sodium is a concern for me. I can tell if I've had a high sodium meal the 
day before, my shoes don't fit well and I spend the whole day super thirsty.
Rober's point in his video is that plant based foods require less input per 
caloric content so in theory we could feed more people. I think this is one of 
those backward ideas, we might consider making fewer people, then feeding them 
would be easy.
I suppose, on some level, our current situation would be what economists refer 
to as "realignment" but I don't want to get political.
-Curt

On Monday, May 4, 2020, 5:20:58 PM EDT, OK Don via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 From what I've read, it is better tasting and more realistic texture, but
it's not any better for you than the real thing. Too much chemistry,
modified stuff, etc.

OK - so I looked it up:

*Are plant-based meats healthier?*

So what does the research say? According to O'Connor, Impossible and Beyond
burgers are made with somewhat similar combinations of plant products, such
as pea protein, coconut and canola oils, potato starch and rice protein, or
proteins from soy and potato. And overall, when compared with a beef
burger, the plant-based burgers are similar in protein and calories but
contain less saturated fat and no cholesterol—although they do have about
four times the amount of sodium of a beef burger.

However, there's been little research on the subject to date. While
research suggests that eating less red meat and more nuts, legumes, and
other plant-based foods has health benefits, such as lower chronic disease
risk and mortality, a recent *JAMA* report did not find conclusive
benefits. Frank Hu, chair of the nutrition department at the *Harvard T.H.
Chan School of Public Health* who worked on the report, said the
researchers were unable to determine whether processed burgers that rely on
soy and pea protein offer the same benefits as eating more legumes and less
red meat.

Hu said that studies are currently underway on whether plant-based burgers
are a healthier alternative to regular meat burgers independent of any
sides.

For now, Hu said he considers plant-based meats as "transitional foods" for
people trying to adopt a healthier diet. But, he noted, that depends on how
you eat it. For example, Hu explained that eating a plant-based hamburger
offers no dietary benefits if you pair it with a traditional burger's
typical sides: French fries and a soda.

https://www.advisory.com/daily-briefing/2019/12/06/plant-meat

YMMV

On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 4:00 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>  I've been working on real biscuits. Its getting there. Mostly I use my
> homemade biscuits for topping chicken pot pie. Works out good in a
> casserole dish.
> For B&G I use a good fatty sausage then add a few scoops of flour and pour
> the milk all right into the pan, deglazes the pan while you're at it.
> I don't think I've ever had plant based sausage but Mark Rober's positive
> review of Impossible and the other fake meat I can't think of the name of,
> make me think I should try. Clearly its not the fake meat of yesteryear.
> -Curt
>
>    On Monday, May 4, 2020, 4:54:26 PM EDT, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>  You need to learn to make real biscuits!
>
> RB
>
>
> On 04/05/2020 3:46 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
> > Your blog reminded me of the fact my kids have thrust me into the lofty
> realm of being an internet rock star at some point over the last couple of
> weeks.
> > Since my cancer diagnosis I have been sticking to the whole food, plant
> based eating that my doctor has prescribed as part of the “active
> surveillance “ course of management. I have been trying many new recipes
> and I try to retrofit old, familiar recipes to suit my new life. My oldest
> daughter wanted me to send her a video on how to make biscuits and gravy,
> but plant based. So I made one. She thought it would be a good idea to put
> it on my YouTube channel (which I forgot I had):
> >  https://www.youtube.com/user/siav651
> > I hope my new life as a YouTube star doesn’t alter me too much.
> >
> > Bob R
>
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Re: [MBZ] Gold status

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I was Platinum on Northwest for seven years straight. It sucked when I stopped 
traveling for business, as I had forgotten what it was like to fly in coach.

Road warriors I talk to today say that upgrades are nearly impossible to get in 
the present day mileage programs. Why bother unless you get upgrades or access 
to the lounges?

-D

> On May 4, 2020, at 6:37 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> They will be bankrupt soon. Use 'em while they are good.
> 
> Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes  writes:
> 
>> Take some short hops. Although AA are the worst ever
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 4, 2020, at 6:17 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I was 1 Flight away from gold status on American at the beginning of 
>>> March. Then the beer virus hit. American lowered the mark so today I rolled 
>>> to good. Now I’m 3 flights away from platinum. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Motherboard/Intel CPUs

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> I wonder how much "upgrading" is just changing things to make them use more 
> computing power for the same end.

Most 'upgrading' is just SW manufacturers refusing to compile for/test on older 
OS's.
There is nothing I personally use, routinely, that wouldn't be just fine on my 
old Pismo.
But, it was left in the dust long ago due to browser creep.  Annual OS updates 
are just
about guaranteed to make the problem worse.

CPU clock speeds plateaued years ago around the 3GHz mark.  Architectures 
fossilized
with AMD's 64-bit version of Intel's 1972 rendition of the Datapoint CPU.  It 
looks like GPUs
are beginning to ossify, a bit, as well.

My recent round of Mac Pro upgrades was driven almost entirely by VMware, which
refuses to run on the Mac Pro 2,1 CPU.  Of course, it _used_ to run on that...  
But not
the current version.  I need it for work, so there I am.  All this effort and 
expense in order
to get exactly what I already had, basically, plus VMware.

I may be acquiring another 4,1 (or 5,1) from work, they just retired one and 
nobody there
is a Mac-head.  We shall see if that pans out, in time.  (Looks like it might 
already be running
Mojave.  It might be the very system whose original video card I nabbed last 
year, and which I'm
running right now.)  It's being replaced by a new Mini with an external video 
system of some sort,
the current tower system is just Too Expensive.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] 1983 mercedes 500sl, rare European model No jokers

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> I was of the understanding that the ACC systems were only sold in the States.

Type II ACC, the Chrysler system with a vertical row of pushbuttons, was 
probably only available in the USA.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] 1983 mercedes 500sl, rare European model No jokers

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> And that would be a “California Coupe”, which I am familiar with.


I didn't think a CC version was a 107 thing.  The sheet metal is so involved in 
the rear
seating and softtop stowage area that I don't think they could have done any 
more, really,
than simply leave the frame and top out of the storage area.  No improvement in 
the
rear seating area, unlike the R113 CC variant, IIRC.

This car also has an ugly 86-87 third brake light added on.

> However, if you look at the leading edge of the roof it doesn’t look like 
> it’s a convertible top form what I can tell.

Looks pretty normal to me.  A tired interior and unspecified amounts of 
front-end damage.
Yes, it needs a new grille.  But what else?

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Ponton front

[David Bruckmann via Mercedes]

Nice juxtaposition: "Friendly Manitoba" license plate and the skull replacing 
the MB star. 

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Blower resistor replacement

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

The thing I have come to grips with is that I don’t go out trying to find 
something plant based that tastes like something animal based. Make sense? I 
know, no matter how fancy a plant based product is, it is not going to taste 
like whatever it is supposed to be replacing. If I want sausage biscuits and 
gravy, I will make SAUSAGE-from-a-pig gravy and not tell the sawbones. 
There is a small mom and pop vegan restaurant near my home that has something 
that is supposed to be what you would order if you wanted sweet and sour 
chicken. They utilize this soy based stuff he sorta kinda developed, it’s 
seasoned well, panko breaded and fried slightly and it is quite good when 
swished around with the veggies and pineapple in the sweet and sour sauce he 
makes…but it ain’t sweet and sour chicken. If you order that expecting it to 
taste like chicken you will be disappointed, but it is really quite tasty.  

My cancer doc @ MD Anderson in Houston has sent me enough current 
science/studies that show quite impressively that men my age with my exact 
stage of prostate cancer have benefited greatly from switching to a plant 
based/whole food life style. I’ll get another data point on my graph July 1st 
(provided my appoints don’t get shoved out again on account of the covid)  to 
see if my new life style is holding this effing cancer in check. I reckon 
changing a way of eating, after being well persuaded by science, is certainly 
better than surgery of chemo right now.

Bob R

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From what I've read, it is better tasting and more realistic texture, but
it's not any better for you than the real thing. Too much chemistry,
modified stuff, etc.

OK - so I looked it up:

*Are plant-based meats healthier?*

So what does the research say? According to O'Connor, Impossible and Beyond
burgers are made with somewhat similar combinations of plant products, such
as pea protein, coconut and canola oils, potato starch and rice protein, or
proteins from soy and potato. And overall, when compared with a beef
burger, the plant-based burgers are similar in protein and calories but
contain less saturated fat and no cholesterol—although they do have about
four times the amount of sodium of a beef burger.

However, there's been little research on the subject to date. While
research suggests that eating less red meat and more nuts, legumes, and
other plant-based foods has health benefits, such as lower chronic disease
risk and mortality, a recent *JAMA* report did not find conclusive
benefits. Frank Hu, chair of the nutrition department at the *Harvard T.H.
Chan School of Public Health* who worked on the report, said the
researchers were unable to determine whether processed burgers that rely on
soy and pea protein offer the same benefits as eating more legumes and less
red meat.

Hu said that studies are currently underway on whether plant-based burgers
are a healthier alternative to regular meat burgers independent of any
sides.

For now, Hu said he considers plant-based meats as "transitional foods" for
people trying to adopt a healthier diet. But, he noted, that depends on how
you eat it. For example, Hu explained that eating a plant-based hamburger
offers no dietary benefits if you pair it with a traditional burger's
typical sides: French fries and a soda.

https://www.advisory.com/daily-briefing/2019/12/06/plant-meat

YMMV

On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 4:00 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>  I've been working on real biscuits. Its getting there. Mostly I use my
> homemade biscuits for topping chicken pot pie. Works out good in a
> casserole dish.
> For B&G I use a good fatty sausage then add a few scoops of flour and pour
> the milk all right into the pan, deglazes the pan while you're at it.
> I don't think I've ever had plant based sausage but Mark Rober's positive
> review of Impossible and the other fake meat I can't think of the name of,
> make me think I should try. Clearly its not the fake meat of yesteryear.
> -Curt
>
> On Monday, May 4, 2020, 4:54:26 PM EDT, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>  You need to learn to make real biscuits!
>
> RB
>
>
> On 04/05/2020 3:46 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
> > Your blog reminded me of the fact my kids have thrust me into the lofty
> realm of being an internet rock star at some point over the last couple of
> weeks.
> > Since my cancer diagnosis I have been sticking to the whole food, plant
> based eating that my doctor has prescribed as part of the “active
> surveillance “ course of management. I have been trying many new recipes
> and I try to retrofit old, familiar recipes to suit my new life. My oldest
> daughter wanted me to send her a video on how to make biscuits and gravy,
> but plant based. So I made one. She thought it would be a g

Re: [MBZ] OT - Motherboard/Intel CPUs

[OK Don via Mercedes]

I have been pleasantly surprised that my "new" ( black friday sale)
Motorola phone from Verizon - a mid sized or larger phone - runs a full
week on a charge! It replaced a three year old Moto something whose screen
suddenly went black. The new phone was about the same cost as replacing the
screen on the old one.

On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 6:27 PM Peter Frederick via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> Same deal with cell phones, I upgraded because Verizon is dropping CDMA/1x
> service and my phone was that style.  A bit cranky, but a charge lasted a
> week of moderate use.  New (used) Samsung has the be charged a couple times
> a day and is a royal PITA to use as a phone.  Too small to use as a
> computer, and the keyboard was obviously designed for small children, can't
> seem to ever push just one key at a time with my XL sized fingers.
>
> I'm becoming an old grump.
> _
>


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“Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”  Wernher
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2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Motherboard/Intel CPUs

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

I wonder how much "upgrading" is just changing things to make them use more 
computing power for the same end.

I have an old MacPro 2.1 (I think), and other than having to jump though hoops 
to upgrade past 10.6.8, it does anything I need it to.  Main problem these days 
is that no one updates "old" software (anything older than six months, it 
seems), so I get web pages that won't work, have to buy new software that does 
exactly the same thing the old stuff does but requires "new" OS functions.

Bloatware to the max!

There have been few, if any, speed increases over the last decade (or two, for 
that matter) -- silicon based CPUs aren't going to run over 3 GHz without 
liquid nitrogen cooling, and more than four or six cores and the coordinating 
software eats all the functional gains.

Same deal with cell phones, I upgraded because Verizon is dropping CDMA/1x 
service and my phone was that style.  A bit cranky, but a charge lasted a week 
of moderate use.  New (used) Samsung has the be charged a couple times a day 
and is a royal PITA to use as a phone.  Too small to use as a computer, and the 
keyboard was obviously designed for small children, can't seem to ever push 
just one key at a time with my XL sized fingers.

I'm becoming an old grump.
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Re: [MBZ] Ponton front

[OK Don via Mercedes]

The hood ornament seems a bit "off", but I love it!

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Re: [MBZ] Gold status

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

They will be bankrupt soon. Use 'em while they are good.

Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes  writes:

> Take some short hops. Although AA are the worst ever
>
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
>
>> On May 4, 2020, at 6:17 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I was 1 Flight away from gold status on American at the beginning of March. 
>> Then the beer virus hit. American lowered the mark so today I rolled to 
>> good. Now I’m 3 flights away from platinum. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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[MBZ] Polizei 123

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Some guy in the 123 FB group was asking about making a polizei 123 and someone 
commented that there was a polizei 126 around Seattle. Must be Clay’s. He’s 
famous. 

--FT
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Re: [MBZ] Gold status

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Take some short hops. Although AA are the worst ever

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On May 4, 2020, at 6:17 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I was 1 Flight away from gold status on American at the beginning of March. 
> Then the beer virus hit. American lowered the mark so today I rolled to good. 
> Now I’m 3 flights away from platinum. 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] camping rig

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I like that  Fun project 

--FT
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> On May 4, 2020, at 1:44 PM, Mitchell Haley EA via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> S124:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvn7cTrg9tk
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[MBZ] rally video to waste some time

[Mitchell Haley EA via Mercedes]

Frightening navigation failure at 6:15.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqQwH_Qj1x0&t=360

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[MBZ] Gold status

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I was 1 Flight away from gold status on American at the beginning of March. 
Then the beer virus hit. American lowered the mark so today I rolled to good. 
Now I’m 3 flights away from platinum. 

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Blower resistor replacement

[G Mann via Mercedes]

I have been a dedicated second generation vegetarian my entire life... Cows
eat plants... I eat cows... seems to work with nature..
YMMV... Grant

On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 2:20 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> From what I've read, it is better tasting and more realistic texture, but
> it's not any better for you than the real thing. Too much chemistry,
> modified stuff, etc.
>
> OK - so I looked it up:
>
> *Are plant-based meats healthier?*
>
> So what does the research say? According to O'Connor, Impossible and Beyond
> burgers are made with somewhat similar combinations of plant products, such
> as pea protein, coconut and canola oils, potato starch and rice protein, or
> proteins from soy and potato. And overall, when compared with a beef
> burger, the plant-based burgers are similar in protein and calories but
> contain less saturated fat and no cholesterol—although they do have about
> four times the amount of sodium of a beef burger.
>
> However, there's been little research on the subject to date. While
> research suggests that eating less red meat and more nuts, legumes, and
> other plant-based foods has health benefits, such as lower chronic disease
> risk and mortality, a recent *JAMA* report did not find conclusive
> benefits. Frank Hu, chair of the nutrition department at the *Harvard T.H.
> Chan School of Public Health* who worked on the report, said the
> researchers were unable to determine whether processed burgers that rely on
> soy and pea protein offer the same benefits as eating more legumes and less
> red meat.
>
> Hu said that studies are currently underway on whether plant-based burgers
> are a healthier alternative to regular meat burgers independent of any
> sides.
>
> For now, Hu said he considers plant-based meats as "transitional foods" for
> people trying to adopt a healthier diet. But, he noted, that depends on how
> you eat it. For example, Hu explained that eating a plant-based hamburger
> offers no dietary benefits if you pair it with a traditional burger's
> typical sides: French fries and a soda.
>
> https://www.advisory.com/daily-briefing/2019/12/06/plant-meat
>
> YMMV
>
> On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 4:00 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> >  I've been working on real biscuits. Its getting there. Mostly I use my
> > homemade biscuits for topping chicken pot pie. Works out good in a
> > casserole dish.
> > For B&G I use a good fatty sausage then add a few scoops of flour and
> pour
> > the milk all right into the pan, deglazes the pan while you're at it.
> > I don't think I've ever had plant based sausage but Mark Rober's positive
> > review of Impossible and the other fake meat I can't think of the name
> of,
> > make me think I should try. Clearly its not the fake meat of yesteryear.
> > -Curt
> >
> > On Monday, May 4, 2020, 4:54:26 PM EDT, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >  You need to learn to make real biscuits!
> >
> > RB
> >
> >
> > On 04/05/2020 3:46 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
> > > Your blog reminded me of the fact my kids have thrust me into the lofty
> > realm of being an internet rock star at some point over the last couple
> of
> > weeks.
> > > Since my cancer diagnosis I have been sticking to the whole food, plant
> > based eating that my doctor has prescribed as part of the “active
> > surveillance “ course of management. I have been trying many new recipes
> > and I try to retrofit old, familiar recipes to suit my new life. My
> oldest
> > daughter wanted me to send her a video on how to make biscuits and gravy,
> > but plant based. So I made one. She thought it would be a good idea to
> put
> > it on my YouTube channel (which I forgot I had):
> > >  https://www.youtube.com/user/siav651
> > > I hope my new life as a YouTube star doesn’t alter me too much.
> > >
> > > Bob R
> >
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> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>
> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
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Re: [MBZ] camping rig

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Post Covid 19 survival rig...
Note there is a small supply of toilet paper... Must not be camped in San
Fransicko where you just poop in the street...

"Mercedes wagon... a car so good you never want to leave it.."

On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 2:10 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Hippies live!
>
> On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 12:44 PM Mitchell Haley EA via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > S124:
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvn7cTrg9tk
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> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>
> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
> Wernher
> Von Braun
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Re: [MBZ] 84 300D 4spd Euro?

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Small bumpers, Euro headlights, no ACC, power windows for front passenger but 
crank windows rear, plus steel hubcaps.

Nice!

Max Dillon
Charleston SC


May 4, 2020 2:23:29 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes :

> There’s a sunroof. Look at the inside of the car in the picture from the left 
> rear door. Definitely looks like a gray market car - anyone guess why I say 
> that?
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> > On May 4, 2020, at 1:55 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Didn't see a sunroof or AC. Photos are not very revealing.
> > 
> > On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 1:52 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > > This could be a very reasonable acquistion, looks pretty nice and
> > > beautiful colors. I'm thinking a Euro import
> > > 
> > > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/870760800095783
> > > 
> > > 1984 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 300 D Sedan 4D
> > > $3,000
> > > Vehicles 
> > > Listed 5 hours ago in New Bern, NC
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > About This Vehicle…
> > > 
> > > Driven 160,000 miles
> > > Manual transmission
> > > Exterior color: Blue · Interior color: Tan
> > > Fuel type: Diesel
> > > Good condition 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Seller's description…
> > > 
> > > Mercedes 300D. Amazing car, electric windows, sunroof, and it’s a
> > > diesel. May need lower ball joint replacement (slight play in the
> > > steering wheel), but drives and sounds great.
> > > 
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[MBZ] Ponton front

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Blower resistor replacement

[OK Don via Mercedes]

From what I've read, it is better tasting and more realistic texture, but
it's not any better for you than the real thing. Too much chemistry,
modified stuff, etc.

OK - so I looked it up:

*Are plant-based meats healthier?*

So what does the research say? According to O'Connor, Impossible and Beyond
burgers are made with somewhat similar combinations of plant products, such
as pea protein, coconut and canola oils, potato starch and rice protein, or
proteins from soy and potato. And overall, when compared with a beef
burger, the plant-based burgers are similar in protein and calories but
contain less saturated fat and no cholesterol—although they do have about
four times the amount of sodium of a beef burger.

However, there's been little research on the subject to date. While
research suggests that eating less red meat and more nuts, legumes, and
other plant-based foods has health benefits, such as lower chronic disease
risk and mortality, a recent *JAMA* report did not find conclusive
benefits. Frank Hu, chair of the nutrition department at the *Harvard T.H.
Chan School of Public Health* who worked on the report, said the
researchers were unable to determine whether processed burgers that rely on
soy and pea protein offer the same benefits as eating more legumes and less
red meat.

Hu said that studies are currently underway on whether plant-based burgers
are a healthier alternative to regular meat burgers independent of any
sides.

For now, Hu said he considers plant-based meats as "transitional foods" for
people trying to adopt a healthier diet. But, he noted, that depends on how
you eat it. For example, Hu explained that eating a plant-based hamburger
offers no dietary benefits if you pair it with a traditional burger's
typical sides: French fries and a soda.

https://www.advisory.com/daily-briefing/2019/12/06/plant-meat

YMMV

On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 4:00 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>  I've been working on real biscuits. Its getting there. Mostly I use my
> homemade biscuits for topping chicken pot pie. Works out good in a
> casserole dish.
> For B&G I use a good fatty sausage then add a few scoops of flour and pour
> the milk all right into the pan, deglazes the pan while you're at it.
> I don't think I've ever had plant based sausage but Mark Rober's positive
> review of Impossible and the other fake meat I can't think of the name of,
> make me think I should try. Clearly its not the fake meat of yesteryear.
> -Curt
>
> On Monday, May 4, 2020, 4:54:26 PM EDT, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>  You need to learn to make real biscuits!
>
> RB
>
>
> On 04/05/2020 3:46 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
> > Your blog reminded me of the fact my kids have thrust me into the lofty
> realm of being an internet rock star at some point over the last couple of
> weeks.
> > Since my cancer diagnosis I have been sticking to the whole food, plant
> based eating that my doctor has prescribed as part of the “active
> surveillance “ course of management. I have been trying many new recipes
> and I try to retrofit old, familiar recipes to suit my new life. My oldest
> daughter wanted me to send her a video on how to make biscuits and gravy,
> but plant based. So I made one. She thought it would be a good idea to put
> it on my YouTube channel (which I forgot I had):
> >  https://www.youtube.com/user/siav651
> > I hope my new life as a YouTube star doesn’t alter me too much.
> >
> > Bob R
>
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Re: [MBZ] camping rig

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Hippies live!

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> S124:
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Blower resistor replacement

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 I've been working on real biscuits. Its getting there. Mostly I use my 
homemade biscuits for topping chicken pot pie. Works out good in a casserole 
dish.
For B&G I use a good fatty sausage then add a few scoops of flour and pour the 
milk all right into the pan, deglazes the pan while you're at it.
I don't think I've ever had plant based sausage but Mark Rober's positive 
review of Impossible and the other fake meat I can't think of the name of, make 
me think I should try. Clearly its not the fake meat of yesteryear.
-Curt

On Monday, May 4, 2020, 4:54:26 PM EDT, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 You need to learn to make real biscuits!

RB


On 04/05/2020 3:46 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
> Your blog reminded me of the fact my kids have thrust me into the lofty realm 
> of being an internet rock star at some point over the last couple of weeks.
> Since my cancer diagnosis I have been sticking to the whole food, plant based 
> eating that my doctor has prescribed as part of the “active surveillance “ 
> course of management. I have been trying many new recipes and I try to 
> retrofit old, familiar recipes to suit my new life. My oldest daughter wanted 
> me to send her a video on how to make biscuits and gravy, but plant based. So 
> I made one. She thought it would be a good idea to put it on my YouTube 
> channel (which I forgot I had):
>  https://www.youtube.com/user/siav651
> I hope my new life as a YouTube star doesn’t alter me too much.
>
> Bob R


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Blower resistor replacement

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 04/05/2020 3:03 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

After months of farting around I finally replaced the blower motor resistor on 
my 2010 Dodge RAM. The second speed setting had quit back in November.Say what 
you will about Chrysler, this was a very easy, 2 minute fix and the part was 
cheap...
http://curtsotherblog.blogspot.com/2020/05/all-speeds-ahead.html
-Curt


You are luckier than me. I cannot recall if I posted about this earlier 
- maybe did. My F150 has a blower issue that I am not going to fix. A 
piece broke off inside the big black box thing. I believe the only 
function that I have lost is the ability to close the door that causes 
recirculate to work so when it is really hot outside, I will not have 
the ability to quickly cool the cab with the AC but I can live with 
that. It would be a real bear of a job to take it apart and odds are the 
part is not available anyway.


RB


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Blower resistor replacement

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

You need to learn to make real biscuits!

RB


On 04/05/2020 3:46 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:

Your blog reminded me of the fact my kids have thrust me into the lofty realm 
of being an internet rock star at some point over the last couple of weeks.
Since my cancer diagnosis I have been sticking to the whole food, plant based 
eating that my doctor has prescribed as part of the “active surveillance “ 
course of management. I have been trying many new recipes and I try to retrofit 
old, familiar recipes to suit my new life. My oldest daughter wanted me to send 
her a video on how to make biscuits and gravy, but plant based. So I made one. 
She thought it would be a good idea to put it on my YouTube channel (which I 
forgot I had):
  https://www.youtube.com/user/siav651
I hope my new life as a YouTube star doesn’t alter me too much.

Bob R



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Re: [MBZ] OT: Blower resistor replacement

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

Your blog reminded me of the fact my kids have thrust me into the lofty realm 
of being an internet rock star at some point over the last couple of weeks. 
Since my cancer diagnosis I have been sticking to the whole food, plant based 
eating that my doctor has prescribed as part of the “active surveillance “ 
course of management. I have been trying many new recipes and I try to retrofit 
old, familiar recipes to suit my new life. My oldest daughter wanted me to send 
her a video on how to make biscuits and gravy, but plant based. So I made one. 
She thought it would be a good idea to put it on my YouTube channel (which I 
forgot I had):
 https://www.youtube.com/user/siav651
I hope my new life as a YouTube star doesn’t alter me too much.

Bob R

Sent from my iPad

> On May 4, 2020, at 1:03 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> After months of farting around I finally replaced the blower motor resistor 
> on my 2010 Dodge RAM. The second speed setting had quit back in November.Say 
> what you will about Chrysler, this was a very easy, 2 minute fix and the part 
> was cheap...
> http://curtsotherblog.blogspot.com/2020/05/all-speeds-ahead.html
> -Curt
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[MBZ] OT: Blower resistor replacement

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

After months of farting around I finally replaced the blower motor resistor on 
my 2010 Dodge RAM. The second speed setting had quit back in November.Say what 
you will about Chrysler, this was a very easy, 2 minute fix and the part was 
cheap...
http://curtsotherblog.blogspot.com/2020/05/all-speeds-ahead.html
-Curt
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Re: [MBZ] Pretty nice one-owner SEL of some sort

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That is nice. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 4, 2020, at 12:50 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> That appears to be a decent deal. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 4, 2020, at 12:58 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1162284924103919
>> 
>> Maybe AZ Bob needs a road trip east
>> 
>> $2,950
>> Vehicles 
>> Listed 34 minutes ago in Greensboro, NC 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> About This Vehicle…
>> 
>> Driven 178,000 miles
>> Automatic transmission
>> 
>> 
>> Seller's description…
>> 
>> Classic Mercedes 1 owner have all service history and owners history 178k 
>> miles runs excellent Garaged Kept no rust solid car clean title
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 mercedes 500sl, rare European model No jokers

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My experience with gray market models is pretty limited. I was of the 
understanding that the ACC systems were only sold in the States. I realize they 
were options like any other, just wasn’t aware they could be ordered overseas.

That W123 that someone posted earlier today is probably a gray market car - one 
way to tell is the lack of wood trim. The center console and area around the 
shifter were typically black plastic in gray market cars.

-D

> On May 4, 2020, at 3:52 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have seen plenty of euro cars with type III ACC
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 4, 2020, at 1:27 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> It’s not a Euro version if it has Type III ACC. Unless someone converted 
>> it, which I highly doubt. It’s not necessarily a 500SL, either. Only the VIN 
>> will reveal this.
>> 
>> I wonder what they mean by “the rare hardtop convertible version”? It looks 
>> like an SLC, I don’t see a header on the front of the top, looks like it’s a 
>> solid top (coupe).
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On May 4, 2020, at 1:55 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> This could be nicer than grandpa's turd brown SL, source a hood and some 
>>> seat covers and yer good ta go
>>> 
>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/273097750491718
>>> 1983 Mercedes-Benz 500 SL
>>> $3,100
>>> Vehicles 
>>> Listed 20 hours ago in Oviedo, FL 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> About This Vehicle…
>>> 
>>> Driven 140,000 miles
>>> Automatic transmission
>>> Exterior color: Black · Interior color: Black
>>> Fair condition 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Seller's description…
>>> 
>>> 1983 mercedes 500sl, rare European model, Mercedes 5.0L SOHC V8, 237 hp and 
>>> 296 lb ft of torque. car has light damage to front. Runs good, Motor and 
>>> trans is solid . Family owned for more than 25 years. This is the rare 
>>> hardtop convertible euro version, made sought after for its bumpers and 
>>> light assemblies. You don’t see this often at all. No jokers
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 mercedes 500sl, rare European model No jokers

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I have seen plenty of euro cars with type III ACC

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> On May 4, 2020, at 1:27 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> It’s not a Euro version if it has Type III ACC. Unless someone converted it, 
> which I highly doubt. It’s not necessarily a 500SL, either. Only the VIN will 
> reveal this.
> 
> I wonder what they mean by “the rare hardtop convertible version”? It looks 
> like an SLC, I don’t see a header on the front of the top, looks like it’s a 
> solid top (coupe).
> 
> -D
> 
>> On May 4, 2020, at 1:55 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> This could be nicer than grandpa's turd brown SL, source a hood and some 
>> seat covers and yer good ta go
>> 
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/273097750491718
>> 1983 Mercedes-Benz 500 SL
>> $3,100
>> Vehicles 
>> Listed 20 hours ago in Oviedo, FL 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> About This Vehicle…
>> 
>> Driven 140,000 miles
>> Automatic transmission
>> Exterior color: Black · Interior color: Black
>> Fair condition 
>> 
>> 
>> Seller's description…
>> 
>> 1983 mercedes 500sl, rare European model, Mercedes 5.0L SOHC V8, 237 hp and 
>> 296 lb ft of torque. car has light damage to front. Runs good, Motor and 
>> trans is solid . Family owned for more than 25 years. This is the rare 
>> hardtop convertible euro version, made sought after for its bumpers and 
>> light assemblies. You don’t see this often at all. No jokers
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Pretty nice one-owner SEL of some sort

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

That appears to be a decent deal. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 4, 2020, at 12:58 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1162284924103919
> 
> Maybe AZ Bob needs a road trip east
> 
> $2,950
> Vehicles 
> Listed 34 minutes ago in Greensboro, NC 
> 
> 
> 
> About This Vehicle…
> 
> Driven 178,000 miles
> Automatic transmission
> 
> 
> Seller's description…
> 
> Classic Mercedes 1 owner have all service history and owners history 178k 
> miles runs excellent Garaged Kept no rust solid car clean title
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 mercedes 500sl, rare European model No jokers

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Interesting, I was not aware that it could be ordered in Europe. VIN did reveal 
that it’s a European model.

Today’s learning for me. Thanks!

-D

> On May 4, 2020, at 3:46 PM, David Bruckmann via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Type III ACC was most definitely an option in Europe. I have plenty of 1980s 
> MB brochures that I acquired at the Sindelfingen factory that show it, and 
> it's also listed in the (huge) Sonderausstattungskatalog. 
> 
> 
>> On May 4, 2020, Dan Penoff wrote:
>> 
>> It?s not a Euro version if it has Type III ACC. Unless someone converted it, 
>> which I highly doubt. It?s not necessarily a 500SL, either. Only the VIN 
>> will reveal this.
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 mercedes 500sl, rare European model No jokers

[David Bruckmann via Mercedes]

Type III ACC was most definitely an option in Europe. I have plenty of 1980s MB 
brochures that I acquired at the Sindelfingen factory that show it, and it's 
also listed in the (huge) Sonderausstattungskatalog. 


> On May 4, 2020, Dan Penoff wrote:
> 
> It?s not a Euro version if it has Type III ACC. Unless someone converted it, 
> which I highly doubt. It?s not necessarily a 500SL, either. Only the VIN will 
> reveal this.

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Re: [MBZ] Racism

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yeah, that was it. Art Bell. I remember listening to him when I was on the road.

-D

> On May 4, 2020, at 3:30 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> But then you had time to listed to that late night radio guy that was the 
> UFO/conspiracy theorist. Glen somebody? (Not Beck)
> 
> -D
> 
>> On May 4, 2020, at 12:41 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I worked a rotating day/nights shift from about ‘77 until 2009. Every night 
>> shift job I’ve ever had, from making donuts to working at the nuke plant, 
>> from mid 70’s to late 90’s, I listened to the good doctor on the radio. 
>> Then, the one Phoenix station that carried him dropped him in ‘97 or ‘98. It 
>> was really strange to have what was such a ital part of working nights 
>> suddenly gone.
>> 
>> Bob R
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On May 4, 2020, at 9:23 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I was wondering the same thing. Used to be my Sunday night entertainment 
>>> as a teenager.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On May 4, 2020, at 12:03 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Curt Raymond via Mercedes  writes:
 
> I was listening to Dr. Demento today
 
 He's still on the air??? I remember him from the early 1980s... maybe
 late '70s. Same guy?  Or someone else continuing the franchise?
 
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Re: [MBZ] Racism

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Art Bell?

Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:

> But then you had time to listed to that late night radio guy that was the 
> UFO/conspiracy theorist. Glen somebody? (Not Beck)
>
> -D
>
>> On May 4, 2020, at 12:41 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I worked a rotating day/nights shift from about ‘77 until 2009. Every night 
>> shift job I’ve ever had, from making donuts to working at the nuke plant, 
>> from mid 70’s to late 90’s, I listened to the good doctor on the radio. 
>> Then, the one Phoenix station that carried him dropped him in ‘97 or ‘98. It 
>> was really strange to have what was such a ital part of working nights 
>> suddenly gone.
>> 
>> Bob R
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On May 4, 2020, at 9:23 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I was wondering the same thing. Used to be my Sunday night entertainment 
>>> as a teenager.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On May 4, 2020, at 12:03 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Curt Raymond via Mercedes  writes:
 
> I was listening to Dr. Demento today
 
 He's still on the air??? I remember him from the early 1980s... maybe
 late '70s. Same guy?  Or someone else continuing the franchise?
 
 Allan
 
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Re: [MBZ] Racism

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

But then you had time to listed to that late night radio guy that was the 
UFO/conspiracy theorist. Glen somebody? (Not Beck)

-D

> On May 4, 2020, at 12:41 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I worked a rotating day/nights shift from about ‘77 until 2009. Every night 
> shift job I’ve ever had, from making donuts to working at the nuke plant, 
> from mid 70’s to late 90’s, I listened to the good doctor on the radio. Then, 
> the one Phoenix station that carried him dropped him in ‘97 or ‘98. It was 
> really strange to have what was such a ital part of working nights suddenly 
> gone.
> 
> Bob R
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On May 4, 2020, at 9:23 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I was wondering the same thing. Used to be my Sunday night entertainment as 
>> a teenager.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On May 4, 2020, at 12:03 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Curt Raymond via Mercedes  writes:
>>> 
 I was listening to Dr. Demento today
>>> 
>>> He's still on the air??? I remember him from the early 1980s... maybe
>>> late '70s. Same guy?  Or someone else continuing the franchise?
>>> 
>>> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] 1968 Mercedes Benz 250, $1, 000 -- not half bad up in the mountains

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

It’s already close. Brake booster was supposed to come today and it missed the 
cutoff at the local USPS hub. Oh, well, I had some stuff to do with the 
sprinklers and gutters anyway.

I’ve got some more parts coming but they’re all cosmetic stuff, more or less. 
New belly pan (old one is AWOL) and some hardware bits and bobs. Moved the car 
around in the driveway this morning and the AC was making ice cubes with the 
new blower motor regulator I put in on Friday. Nice. Dropped the Special 
Edition (yes, this particular car was a “Special Edition”) wheels off at my 
tire guy yesterday to bust the 10 year old Michelins off of the wheels in 
anticipation of having them refinished.

Looking forward to being able to drive the thing once the brake booster is 
replaced.

-D



> On May 4, 2020, at 3:13 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> You will wrap that up in 10 days tops.  Prepare for the next one.
> 
> On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 2:34 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes  > wrote:
> Already got a project. Don’t need another.
> 
> -D
> 
> > On May 4, 2020, at 2:00 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
> > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> > 
> > This could be a good Poos project
> > 
> > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/266267834498729 
> > 
> > 
> > 1968 Mercedes Benz 250
> > $1,000
> > Listed a week ago in Maggie Valley, NC 
> >  > >
> > 
> > 
> > Details
> > …
> > 
> > *
> >   Condition
> >   Used - Good
> > 
> > Nice little car body is in great shape. Lost key key cost $40 to have key 
> > made. Car has not been cranked in awhile used to run as long as you pulled 
> > fuel in the carburetors. I will sell it for $1,000 cash pickup in Maggie 
> > Valley
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Re: [MBZ] Racism

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 AFAIK its the same guy but doing an internet show now.
I was actually listening to a Dr. Demento record on Amazon music...
-Curt

On Monday, May 4, 2020, 12:04:40 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Curt Raymond via Mercedes  writes:

>  I was listening to Dr. Demento today

He's still on the air??? I remember him from the early 1980s... maybe
late '70s. Same guy?  Or someone else continuing the franchise?

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] 1968 Mercedes Benz 250, $1, 000 -- not half bad up in the mountains

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

You will wrap that up in 10 days tops.  Prepare for the next one.

On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 2:34 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> Already got a project. Don’t need another.
>
> -D
>
> > On May 4, 2020, at 2:00 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > This could be a good Poos project
> >
> > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/266267834498729
> >
> > 1968 Mercedes Benz 250
> > $1,000
> > Listed a week ago in Maggie Valley, NC <
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/113210288692713/>
> >
> >
> > Details
> > …
> >
> > *
> >   Condition
> >   Used - Good
> >
> > Nice little car body is in great shape. Lost key key cost $40 to have
> key made. Car has not been cranked in awhile used to run as long as you
> pulled fuel in the carburetors. I will sell it for $1,000 cash pickup in
> Maggie Valley
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 mercedes 500sl, rare European model No jokers

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

VIN is WDB10704612001840

-D


> On May 4, 2020, at 2:43 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> So the VIN shows it to be a convertible coupe offered in Europe only. Doesn’t 
> shed any light on whether or not it’s one without the soft top frame.
> 
> Hmm.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On May 4, 2020, at 2:35 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> And that would be a “California Coupe”, which I am familiar with. However, 
>> if you look at the leading edge of the roof it doesn’t look like it’s a 
>> convertible top form what I can tell.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On May 4, 2020, at 2:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Definitely not an SL C.  Some 107s came with just a hard top.
>>> 
>>> On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 2:27 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>>> It’s not a Euro version if it has Type III ACC. Unless someone converted 
>>> it, which I highly doubt. It’s not necessarily a 500SL, either. Only the 
>>> VIN will reveal this.
>>> 
>>> I wonder what they mean by “the rare hardtop convertible version”? It looks 
>>> like an SLC, I don’t see a header on the front of the top, looks like it’s 
>>> a solid top (coupe).
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On May 4, 2020, at 1:55 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
 
 This could be nicer than grandpa's turd brown SL, source a hood and some 
 seat covers and yer good ta go
 
 https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/273097750491718 
 
 1983 Mercedes-Benz 500 SL
 $3,100
 Vehicles >
 Listed 20 hours ago in Oviedo, FL 
 >
 
 
 About This Vehicle…
 
 Driven 140,000 miles
 Automatic transmission
 Exterior color: Black · Interior color: Black
 Fair condition >
 
 
 Seller's description…
 
 1983 mercedes 500sl, rare European model, Mercedes 5.0L SOHC V8, 237 hp 
 and 296 lb ft of torque. car has light damage to front. Runs good, Motor 
 and trans is solid . Family owned for more than 25 years. This is the rare 
 hardtop convertible euro version, made sought after for its bumpers and 
 light assemblies. You don’t see this often at all. No jokers
 
 -- 
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Re: [MBZ] Major drug use

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

"Exterior is good except for a couple minor scratches.”

Uh, yeah.

-D

> On May 4, 2020, at 2:50 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1874130569352679/
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[MBZ] Major drug use

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1874130569352679/


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Re: [MBZ] 1983 mercedes 500sl, rare European model No jokers

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

So the VIN shows it to be a convertible coupe offered in Europe only. Doesn’t 
shed any light on whether or not it’s one without the soft top frame.

Hmm.

-D


> On May 4, 2020, at 2:35 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> And that would be a “California Coupe”, which I am familiar with. However, if 
> you look at the leading edge of the roof it doesn’t look like it’s a 
> convertible top form what I can tell.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On May 4, 2020, at 2:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
>> 
>> Definitely not an SL C.  Some 107s came with just a hard top.
>> 
>> On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 2:27 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>> It’s not a Euro version if it has Type III ACC. Unless someone converted it, 
>> which I highly doubt. It’s not necessarily a 500SL, either. Only the VIN 
>> will reveal this.
>> 
>> I wonder what they mean by “the rare hardtop convertible version”? It looks 
>> like an SLC, I don’t see a header on the front of the top, looks like it’s a 
>> solid top (coupe).
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On May 4, 2020, at 1:55 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> This could be nicer than grandpa's turd brown SL, source a hood and some 
>>> seat covers and yer good ta go
>>> 
>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/273097750491718 
>>> 
>>> 1983 Mercedes-Benz 500 SL
>>> $3,100
>>> Vehicles >> >
>>> Listed 20 hours ago in Oviedo, FL 
>>> >> >
>>> 
>>> 
>>> About This Vehicle…
>>> 
>>> Driven 140,000 miles
>>> Automatic transmission
>>> Exterior color: Black · Interior color: Black
>>> Fair condition >> >
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Seller's description…
>>> 
>>> 1983 mercedes 500sl, rare European model, Mercedes 5.0L SOHC V8, 237 hp and 
>>> 296 lb ft of torque. car has light damage to front. Runs good, Motor and 
>>> trans is solid . Family owned for more than 25 years. This is the rare 
>>> hardtop convertible euro version, made sought after for its bumpers and 
>>> light assemblies. You don’t see this often at all. No jokers
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 mercedes 500sl, rare European model No jokers

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

And that would be a “California Coupe”, which I am familiar with. However, if 
you look at the leading edge of the roof it doesn’t look like it’s a 
convertible top form what I can tell.

-D

> On May 4, 2020, at 2:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> Definitely not an SL C.  Some 107s came with just a hard top.
> 
> On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 2:27 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes  > wrote:
> It’s not a Euro version if it has Type III ACC. Unless someone converted it, 
> which I highly doubt. It’s not necessarily a 500SL, either. Only the VIN will 
> reveal this.
> 
> I wonder what they mean by “the rare hardtop convertible version”? It looks 
> like an SLC, I don’t see a header on the front of the top, looks like it’s a 
> solid top (coupe).
> 
> -D
> 
> > On May 4, 2020, at 1:55 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
> > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> > 
> > This could be nicer than grandpa's turd brown SL, source a hood and some 
> > seat covers and yer good ta go
> > 
> > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/273097750491718 
> > 
> > 1983 Mercedes-Benz 500 SL
> > $3,100
> > Vehicles  > >
> > Listed 20 hours ago in Oviedo, FL 
> >  > >
> > 
> > 
> > About This Vehicle…
> > 
> > Driven 140,000 miles
> > Automatic transmission
> > Exterior color: Black · Interior color: Black
> > Fair condition  > >
> > 
> > 
> > Seller's description…
> > 
> > 1983 mercedes 500sl, rare European model, Mercedes 5.0L SOHC V8, 237 hp and 
> > 296 lb ft of torque. car has light damage to front. Runs good, Motor and 
> > trans is solid . Family owned for more than 25 years. This is the rare 
> > hardtop convertible euro version, made sought after for its bumpers and 
> > light assemblies. You don’t see this often at all. No jokers
> > 
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Re: [MBZ] 1968 Mercedes Benz 250, $1, 000 -- not half bad up in the mountains

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Already got a project. Don’t need another.

-D

> On May 4, 2020, at 2:00 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> This could be a good Poos project
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/266267834498729
> 
> 1968 Mercedes Benz 250
> $1,000
> Listed a week ago in Maggie Valley, NC 
> 
> 
> 
> Details
> …
> 
> *
>   Condition
>   Used - Good
> 
> Nice little car body is in great shape. Lost key key cost $40 to have key 
> made. Car has not been cranked in awhile used to run as long as you pulled 
> fuel in the carburetors. I will sell it for $1,000 cash pickup in Maggie 
> Valley
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 mercedes 500sl, rare European model No jokers

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Definitely not an SL C.  Some 107s came with just a hard top.

On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 2:27 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> It’s not a Euro version if it has Type III ACC. Unless someone converted
> it, which I highly doubt. It’s not necessarily a 500SL, either. Only the
> VIN will reveal this.
>
> I wonder what they mean by “the rare hardtop convertible version”? It
> looks like an SLC, I don’t see a header on the front of the top, looks like
> it’s a solid top (coupe).
>
> -D
>
> > On May 4, 2020, at 1:55 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > This could be nicer than grandpa's turd brown SL, source a hood and some
> seat covers and yer good ta go
> >
> > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/273097750491718
> > 1983 Mercedes-Benz 500 SL
> > $3,100
> > Vehicles  >
> > Listed 20 hours ago in Oviedo, FL <
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/105635716135464/>
> >
> >
> > About This Vehicle…
> >
> > Driven 140,000 miles
> > Automatic transmission
> > Exterior color: Black · Interior color: Black
> > Fair condition 
> >
> >
> > Seller's description…
> >
> > 1983 mercedes 500sl, rare European model, Mercedes 5.0L SOHC V8, 237 hp
> and 296 lb ft of torque. car has light damage to front. Runs good, Motor
> and trans is solid . Family owned for more than 25 years. This is the rare
> hardtop convertible euro version, made sought after for its bumpers and
> light assemblies. You don’t see this often at all. No jokers
> >
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Re: [MBZ] 1968 Mercedes Benz 250, $1, 000 -- not half bad up in the mountains

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Trust me, Dan would not be interested in such a basket case.

On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 2:00 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> This could be a good Poos project
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/266267834498729
>
> 1968 Mercedes Benz 250
> $1,000
> Listed a week ago in Maggie Valley, NC
> 
>
>
>   Details
>   …
>
>   *
> Condition
> Used - Good
>
> Nice little car body is in great shape. Lost key key cost $40 to have
> key made. Car has not been cranked in awhile used to run as long as you
> pulled fuel in the carburetors. I will sell it for $1,000 cash pickup in
> Maggie Valley
>
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 mercedes 500sl, rare European model No jokers

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I requested the VIN. There are so many disparities in this listing it’s crazy.

-D

> On May 4, 2020, at 1:55 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> This could be nicer than grandpa's turd brown SL, source a hood and some seat 
> covers and yer good ta go
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/273097750491718
> 1983 Mercedes-Benz 500 SL
> $3,100
> Vehicles 
> Listed 20 hours ago in Oviedo, FL 
> 
> 
> 
> About This Vehicle…
> 
> Driven 140,000 miles
> Automatic transmission
> Exterior color: Black · Interior color: Black
> Fair condition 
> 
> 
> Seller's description…
> 
> 1983 mercedes 500sl, rare European model, Mercedes 5.0L SOHC V8, 237 hp and 
> 296 lb ft of torque. car has light damage to front. Runs good, Motor and 
> trans is solid . Family owned for more than 25 years. This is the rare 
> hardtop convertible euro version, made sought after for its bumpers and light 
> assemblies. You don’t see this often at all. No jokers
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 mercedes 500sl, rare European model No jokers

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

It’s not a Euro version if it has Type III ACC. Unless someone converted it, 
which I highly doubt. It’s not necessarily a 500SL, either. Only the VIN will 
reveal this.

I wonder what they mean by “the rare hardtop convertible version”? It looks 
like an SLC, I don’t see a header on the front of the top, looks like it’s a 
solid top (coupe).

-D

> On May 4, 2020, at 1:55 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> This could be nicer than grandpa's turd brown SL, source a hood and some seat 
> covers and yer good ta go
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/273097750491718
> 1983 Mercedes-Benz 500 SL
> $3,100
> Vehicles 
> Listed 20 hours ago in Oviedo, FL 
> 
> 
> 
> About This Vehicle…
> 
> Driven 140,000 miles
> Automatic transmission
> Exterior color: Black · Interior color: Black
> Fair condition 
> 
> 
> Seller's description…
> 
> 1983 mercedes 500sl, rare European model, Mercedes 5.0L SOHC V8, 237 hp and 
> 296 lb ft of torque. car has light damage to front. Runs good, Motor and 
> trans is solid . Family owned for more than 25 years. This is the rare 
> hardtop convertible euro version, made sought after for its bumpers and light 
> assemblies. You don’t see this often at all. No jokers
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 mercedes 500sl, rare European model No jokers

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I would email to correct to "no jokesters" and then offer $500.

On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 1:55 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> This could be nicer than grandpa's turd brown SL, source a hood and some
> seat covers and yer good ta go
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/273097750491718
> 1983 Mercedes-Benz 500 SL
> $3,100
> Vehicles 
> Listed 20 hours ago in Oviedo, FL
> 
>
>
>   About This Vehicle…
>
> Driven 140,000 miles
> Automatic transmission
> Exterior color: Black · Interior color: Black
> Fair condition 
>
>
>   Seller's description…
>
> 1983 mercedes 500sl, rare European model, Mercedes 5.0L SOHC V8, 237 hp
> and 296 lb ft of torque. car has light damage to front. Runs good, Motor
> and trans is solid . Family owned for more than 25 years. This is the
> rare hardtop convertible euro version, made sought after for its bumpers
> and light assemblies. You don’t see this often at all. No jokers
>
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Re: [MBZ] 84 300D 4spd Euro?

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There’s a sunroof. Look at the inside of the car in the picture from the left 
rear door. Definitely looks like a gray market car - anyone guess why I say 
that?

-D

> On May 4, 2020, at 1:55 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Didn't see a sunroof or AC.  Photos are not very revealing.
> 
> On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 1:52 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> This could be a very reasonable acquistion, looks pretty nice and
>> beautiful colors.  I'm thinking a Euro import
>> 
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/870760800095783
>> 
>> 1984 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 300 D Sedan 4D
>> $3,000
>> Vehicles 
>> Listed 5 hours ago in New Bern, NC
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  About This Vehicle…
>> 
>> Driven 160,000 miles
>> Manual transmission
>> Exterior color: Blue · Interior color: Tan
>> Fuel type: Diesel
>> Good condition 
>> 
>> 
>>  Seller's description…
>> 
>> Mercedes 300D. Amazing car, electric windows, sunroof, and it’s a
>> diesel. May need lower ball joint replacement (slight play in the
>> steering wheel), but drives and sounds great.
>> 
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[MBZ] 1968 Mercedes Benz 250, $1, 000 -- not half bad up in the mountains

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

This could be a good Poos project

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/266267834498729

1968 Mercedes Benz 250
$1,000
Listed a week ago in Maggie Valley, NC 




 Details
 …

 *
   Condition
   Used - Good

Nice little car body is in great shape. Lost key key cost $40 to have 
key made. Car has not been cranked in awhile used to run as long as you 
pulled fuel in the carburetors. I will sell it for $1,000 cash pickup in 
Maggie Valley


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[MBZ] Pretty nice one-owner SEL of some sort

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1162284924103919

Maybe AZ Bob needs a road trip east

$2,950
Vehicles 
Listed 34 minutes ago in Greensboro, NC 




 About This Vehicle…

Driven 178,000 miles
Automatic transmission


 Seller's description…

Classic Mercedes 1 owner have all service history and owners history 
178k miles runs excellent Garaged Kept no rust solid car clean title


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[MBZ] 1983 mercedes 500sl, rare European model No jokers

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

This could be nicer than grandpa's turd brown SL, source a hood and some 
seat covers and yer good ta go


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/273097750491718
1983 Mercedes-Benz 500 SL
$3,100
Vehicles 
Listed 20 hours ago in Oviedo, FL 




 About This Vehicle…

Driven 140,000 miles
Automatic transmission
Exterior color: Black · Interior color: Black
Fair condition 


 Seller's description…

1983 mercedes 500sl, rare European model, Mercedes 5.0L SOHC V8, 237 hp 
and 296 lb ft of torque. car has light damage to front. Runs good, Motor 
and trans is solid . Family owned for more than 25 years. This is the 
rare hardtop convertible euro version, made sought after for its bumpers 
and light assemblies. You don’t see this often at all. No jokers


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Re: [MBZ] 84 300D 4spd Euro?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Didn't see a sunroof or AC.  Photos are not very revealing.

On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 1:52 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> This could be a very reasonable acquistion, looks pretty nice and
> beautiful colors.  I'm thinking a Euro import
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/870760800095783
>
> 1984 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 300 D Sedan 4D
> $3,000
> Vehicles 
> Listed 5 hours ago in New Bern, NC
> 
>
>
>   About This Vehicle…
>
> Driven 160,000 miles
> Manual transmission
> Exterior color: Blue · Interior color: Tan
> Fuel type: Diesel
> Good condition 
>
>
>   Seller's description…
>
> Mercedes 300D. Amazing car, electric windows, sunroof, and it’s a
> diesel. May need lower ball joint replacement (slight play in the
> steering wheel), but drives and sounds great.
>
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[MBZ] 84 300D 4spd Euro?

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

This could be a very reasonable acquistion, looks pretty nice and 
beautiful colors.  I'm thinking a Euro import


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/870760800095783

1984 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 300 D Sedan 4D
$3,000
Vehicles 
Listed 5 hours ago in New Bern, NC 




 About This Vehicle…

Driven 160,000 miles
Manual transmission
Exterior color: Blue · Interior color: Tan
Fuel type: Diesel
Good condition 


 Seller's description…

Mercedes 300D. Amazing car, electric windows, sunroof, and it’s a 
diesel. May need lower ball joint replacement (slight play in the 
steering wheel), but drives and sounds great.


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Re: [MBZ] $4K for a 1979 450SL with 40K Original Miles

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Can someone with a Facebook account see the location? I can't see it, I
assume because I'm not logged in.

Allan

Max Dillon via Mercedes  writes:

> I'd be checking that out. BaT flip material?
>
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
>
>
> May 4, 2020 12:36:39 PM Kevin Kraly via Mercedes :
>
>> I spotted this on facebook today.
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/799942663876364/
>> Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
>> 2019 Sprinter 750 miles, Low Mileage Lutgard
>> 1982 240D, High Mileage Hildegard
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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[MBZ] camping rig

[Mitchell Haley EA via Mercedes]

S124:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvn7cTrg9tk

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Re: [MBZ] $4K for a 1979 450SL with 40K Original Miles

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If you can document the true mileage at 40k then that's a $25K car on BAT.

On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 1:39 PM Max Dillon via Mercedes <
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> I'd be checking that out. BaT flip material?
>
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
>
>
> May 4, 2020 12:36:39 PM Kevin Kraly via Mercedes :
>
> > I spotted this on facebook today.
> > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/799942663876364/
> > Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
> > 2019 Sprinter 750 miles, Low Mileage Lutgard
> > 1982 240D, High Mileage Hildegard
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] $4K for a 1979 450SL with 40K Original Miles

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

I'd be checking that out. BaT flip material?

Max Dillon
Charleston SC


May 4, 2020 12:36:39 PM Kevin Kraly via Mercedes :

> I spotted this on facebook today.
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/799942663876364/
> Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
> 2019 Sprinter 750 miles, Low Mileage Lutgard
> 1982 240D, High Mileage Hildegard
> 
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Re: [MBZ] $4K for a 1979 450SL with 40K Original Miles

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

"Grandpa's car" means it has been sitting for awhile, gramps didn't do a 
lot with it or to it so it has tons of deferred maintenance plus needs 
correct wheels and tires, the grands realized it was a total project and 
have unrealistic expectations about the car because all they did was 
google some values and say yeah let's get $4k!!!  wooo wooo!


--FT

On 5/4/20 12:43 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:

“Needs TLC” can mean so much.

Bob R

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On May 4, 2020, at 9:36 AM, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes  
wrote:

I spotted this on facebook today.
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/799942663876364/
Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
2019 Sprinter 750 miles, Low Mileage Lutgard
1982 240D, High Mileage Hildegard


Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [MBZ] Was this a Benz item?

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Pretty sure those are aftermarket.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC


May 4, 2020 10:15:42 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes :

> Wonder if I should get it for the SL. Seems cheap enough
> 
> https://savannah.craigslist.org/pts/d/savannah-removable-hardtop-lifting/7116404624.html
> 
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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: My BaT Car

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

That is totally gorgeous! When I saw flathead 292, I thought of my first car, a 
Mercury with a 292 flathead 8...but this is a 12!

Greg

-Original Message-
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via Mercedes
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2020 5:21 AM
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Cc: Dan Penoff
Subject: [MBZ] My BaT Car

Love this:

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1948-lincoln-continental-coupe-2/?utm_source=dm&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2020-05-04

-D
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Re: [MBZ] $4K for a 1979 450SL with 40K Original Miles

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

The wheels are a real turnoff to me.  Anyone like them?

On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 12:56 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The wheels? Agree, but easily corrected.
>
> The color? Well, it was the 1970s.
>
> Not enough info to say much else. From the two photos, appears undamaged
> and not obviously rusted.
>
> Allan
>
>
> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes  writes:
>
> > Hideous.
> >
> > On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 12:36 PM Kevin Kraly via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I spotted this on facebook today.
> >> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/799942663876364/
> >> Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
> >> 2019 Sprinter 750 miles, Low Mileage Lutgard
> >> 1982 240D, High Mileage Hildegard
> >>
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Was this a Benz item?

[Frederick Moir via Mercedes]

Floyd T.
Make sure that the include the chain saw!
Fred.
p.s. Couldn't resist.

On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 10:15 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Wonder if I should get it for the SL.  Seems cheap enough
>
>
> https://savannah.craigslist.org/pts/d/savannah-removable-hardtop-lifting/7116404624.html
>
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Lynn MA
Diesel preferred
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Re: [MBZ] $4K for a 1979 450SL with 40K Original Miles

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

The wheels? Agree, but easily corrected.

The color? Well, it was the 1970s.

Not enough info to say much else. From the two photos, appears undamaged
and not obviously rusted.

Allan


Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes  writes:

> Hideous.
>
> On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 12:36 PM Kevin Kraly via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> I spotted this on facebook today.
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/799942663876364/
>> Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
>> 2019 Sprinter 750 miles, Low Mileage Lutgard
>> 1982 240D, High Mileage Hildegard
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
 

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Re: [MBZ] My BaT Car

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

The 3.5 coupe is overpriced.  No sunroof.  Boring and peeling plaikn walnut
(not burl or zebrano) dash wood.  Replaced rear compensator with the
inferior spring kit.  Changed color.  On the road test video it appears
that either the speedo or tach wasn't working properly.

On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 10:00 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I'm keeping my eye on the feuerwagen, could buy it and drive it home
> cross-country, would probably only take 3 weeks
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1965-mercedes-benz-lt-8-l407-firetruck/
>
> And then there's this one that is pretty sweet:
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1971-mercedes-benz-280se-coupe-3-5-6/
>
> but I don't understand why it is a 280SE when it is a 3.5 V8
>
> --FT
>
> On 5/4/20 8:20 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> > Love this:
> >
> >
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1948-lincoln-continental-coupe-2/?utm_source=dm&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2020-05-04
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Re: [MBZ] $4K for a 1979 450SL with 40K Original Miles

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“Needs TLC” can mean so much.

Bob R

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> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/799942663876364/
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> 1982 240D, High Mileage Hildegard
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Re: [MBZ] $4K for a 1979 450SL with 40K Original Miles

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Hideous.

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> Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
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Re: [MBZ] Racism

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

I worked a rotating day/nights shift from about ‘77 until 2009. Every night 
shift job I’ve ever had, from making donuts to working at the nuke plant, from 
mid 70’s to late 90’s, I listened to the good doctor on the radio. Then, the 
one Phoenix station that carried him dropped him in ‘97 or ‘98. It was really 
strange to have what was such a ital part of working nights suddenly gone.

Bob R

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> On May 4, 2020, at 9:23 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I was wondering the same thing. Used to be my Sunday night entertainment as 
> a teenager.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On May 4, 2020, at 12:03 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Curt Raymond via Mercedes  writes:
>> 
>>> I was listening to Dr. Demento today
>> 
>> He's still on the air??? I remember him from the early 1980s... maybe
>> late '70s. Same guy?  Or someone else continuing the franchise?
>> 
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[MBZ] $4K for a 1979 450SL with 40K Original Miles

[Kevin Kraly via Mercedes]

I spotted this on facebook today.
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/799942663876364/
Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
2019 Sprinter 750 miles, Low Mileage Lutgard
1982 240D, High Mileage Hildegard


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Re: [MBZ] Racism

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I was wondering the same thing. Used to be my Sunday night entertainment as a 
teenager.

-D

> On May 4, 2020, at 12:03 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
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> Curt Raymond via Mercedes  writes:
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>> I was listening to Dr. Demento today
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> He's still on the air??? I remember him from the early 1980s... maybe
> late '70s. Same guy?  Or someone else continuing the franchise?
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Re: [MBZ] Racism

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Curt Raymond via Mercedes  writes:

>  I was listening to Dr. Demento today

He's still on the air??? I remember him from the early 1980s... maybe
late '70s. Same guy?  Or someone else continuing the franchise?

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] 210 diesel

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Almost unbelievably clean under the hood for 250K miles. Fresh steam
cleaning? OCD owner?

Allan



Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:

> Wow, that is a nice one. Looks well cared for.
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> -D
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>> On May 3, 2020, at 10:40 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/160799588695191/
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[MBZ] Was this a Benz item?

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Wonder if I should get it for the SL.  Seems cheap enough

https://savannah.craigslist.org/pts/d/savannah-removable-hardtop-lifting/7116404624.html

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Re: [MBZ] My BaT Car

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I'm keeping my eye on the feuerwagen, could buy it and drive it home 
cross-country, would probably only take 3 weeks 
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1965-mercedes-benz-lt-8-l407-firetruck/


And then there's this one that is pretty sweet: 
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1971-mercedes-benz-280se-coupe-3-5-6/


but I don't understand why it is a 280SE when it is a 3.5 V8

--FT

On 5/4/20 8:20 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Love this:

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1948-lincoln-continental-coupe-2/?utm_source=dm&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2020-05-04

-D
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[MBZ] My BaT Car

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Love this:

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1948-lincoln-continental-coupe-2/?utm_source=dm&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2020-05-04

-D
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