[MBZ] 211 Chassis
I think I remember hearing that the 211 is pretty good? I found a 2008 E350 with 120K miles. Looks pretty nice. I'm trying to find a daily driver that I can pay $8000 or less. Needs to be reliable enough for 600 mile trips every 3-4 months. I don't mind higher miles if it has been maintained. I know I could get a boring old Lexus ES and it would probably be good. But, they are so boring. Maybe that's what I need. Don Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2000 C280 - 32k miles - $9,999
I think it looks great. I remember that some of earlier C class were not great cars. Are these any good? Donald H. Snook > On Sep 8, 2021, at 10:20 PM, Allan Streib wrote: > > Yeah, I just meant it's probably the best of the W202s, last model year, > most powerful engine (if you don't get into the AMG models). > >> On Wed, Sep 8, 2021, at 10:43 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: >> I thought the C class was *declasse* compared to E and S >> >>> On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 10:13 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> Looks nice, top of the line 280 model (if you don't include the AMGs) with >>> low miles but still 21 years old now. >>> >>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/d/indianapolis-mercedes-benz-c280/7377594860.html__;!!IQRisXbPUUyI!r4WZ3t6jLwbES-09Tg_WAkzsJybPPvWVCDJzS7gd23WpIenQWBEl8oSAeQ4_NtCLEg$ >>> >>> >>> This model would have had the V6-18V M112 not the I6-24V M104, per Wiki. >>> >>> Allan >>> ___ >>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.okiebenz.com__;!!IQRisXbPUUyI!r4WZ3t6jLwbES-09Tg_WAkzsJybPPvWVCDJzS7gd23WpIenQWBEl8oSAeQ67a74c_A$ >>> >>> >>> To search list archives >>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/__;!!IQRisXbPUUyI!r4WZ3t6jLwbES-09Tg_WAkzsJybPPvWVCDJzS7gd23WpIenQWBEl8oSAeQ4VGa9TkQ$ >>> >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com__;!!IQRisXbPUUyI!r4WZ3t6jLwbES-09Tg_WAkzsJybPPvWVCDJzS7gd23WpIenQWBEl8oSAeQ6YlhFD_A$ >>> >>> > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 2008 ML 320 CDI?
I found a 2008 ML CDI with 180K miles for sale. That's a lot of miles for these newer MB. But, I know very little about the ML. I remember reading that some years are good and others have very expensive common issues. The price of used cars is so high right now that I can sell my current car (2018 BMW) for as much as I paid for it and pocket enough to pay cash for an older daily driver. I really like the idea of no car payments. But, I'm concerned this ML could be a money pit. Don Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Coleman RV AC
Does it have a cycling switch? On a car that switches on and off wouldn’t that be either low on Freon (or too high pressure)? Maybe it works similarly. Donald H. Snook > On Aug 17, 2021, at 6:38 PM, Kaleb Striplin wrote: > > Anybody know anything about RV ACs? On this 5th wheel I got, I wired up a > 30 amp outlet in the shop and plugged in the RV. AC fan runs, compressor > kicks in for about 3 seconds, then shuts off, 30-45 seconds later, same it > starts again for about 2-3 seconds then quit. I got up top and pulled the > cover. It is basically like a window AC except its on top of the camper. > Anyway, fan is working fine, compressor kicks on for 2-3 seconds and sounds > fine, then shuts off. Feeling the low side line, it sure feels like it is > starting to get cool for that couple of seconds compressor runs. I am > thinking run capacitor. Anybody know anything about these? Capacitors look > fine but who knows. The run capacitor looks sort of crummy on top, but not > really that bad. Perhaps I should replace both. Fan cap is probably fine > since it runs. > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Kaleb 240D moves on
A 1981 BMW 320i -- for now. It really is a fun car. It’s a 5 speed and in really amazing shape. I like it a lot. But, I do like the 123. I have decided I am not going to buy a cheap one. If I get another 123, it will be perfect and in great shape. I have seen a few gassers. I had an 82 Euro 280E and it was a fun car. Don Snook -Original Message- From: OK Don Sent: Monday, August 16, 2021 10:30 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Kaleb 240D moves on I forgot to ask - what replaced the 240D??? On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 9:18 AM Donald Snook via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > The 81 240D 4 speed I bought from Kaleb has now moved on to its new > owner. An old hippie lady drove all night from Indiana with a friend > and they are heading back. It’s going to be a slow trip. But, the air > actually works. > > Donald H. Snook > > > ___ > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.okiebenz.com__;!!IQRisXbPUUyI!t > 7cQ6b4rDYuWzVwlyDOBQwj8dOJiCanJ2tT-NTFndvUyfhFW77_lOt0V-NL1SEBTBg$ > > To search list archives > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/__;!!IQRis > XbPUUyI!t7cQ6b4rDYuWzVwlyDOBQwj8dOJiCanJ2tT-NTFndvUyfhFW77_lOt0V-NI3Co > 1NkA$ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/ > mercedes_okiebenz.com__;!!IQRisXbPUUyI!t7cQ6b4rDYuWzVwlyDOBQwj8dOJiCan > J2tT-NTFndvUyfhFW77_lOt0V-NL73aERtw$ > > -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher Von Braun 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I have really got to dump USAA soon
I haven't been on here in a long time. Sorry about that. I have been swamped. I happened to see this email subject and wanted to pile on. -- Not really. I have been a USAA member since I was born. My Dad enrolled me. Years ago, I had USAA Credit Card, Mortgage, Homeowners Insurance, Savings, and car insurance. But, several years ago I had a friend become an agent with Farmer's. I got a quote from them and USAA was A LOT higher. I had Farmer's for several years and my homeowners kept going up and up. I switched to Traveler's and the homeowners was almost HALF as much. When we bought a house in Memphis last year, I got several quotes for home and Auto. State Farm was the best. Some companies had a better deal on the house OR the car. But, with the multiline discounts State Farm beat all of them by a pretty good margin. ALSO remember the 81 240D I bought from Kaleb? It is for sale. I actually got the a/c working. There is definitely something wrong with the accelerator linkage. It is SLOW. And when I pull the lever under the hood, it does not go all the way to the stop point. It still runs good. I put it on facebook and disclosed all the warts and priced it to sell for $1950. I have had tons of interest, but no buyers yet. I can't imagine driving one of these with an automatic. The 4 speed is sort of fun. And even though I have a MUCH nice newer car, my 10 year old is constantly asking if we can take the Mercedes. He said my other car is too smooth. He likes how the Diesel bounces around. -Original Message- From: Floyd Thursby Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2021 10:00 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] I have really got to dump USAA soon Price gouging is a hanging offense --FT On 7/15/21 10:44 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > I just sold a 100 sheet pallet of OSB, 1/2 inch 4X8 sheets. They had > been sitting unused for 4 years in the corner of the shop. I paid > $5.95 a sheet, I sold them at a bargain price in today's market for > $35.00 each sheet, which gave the very happy buyer about an $8.00 > break over what Home Depot and Lowes lists for, but did not have any. > Cash, buyer loaded, thanked me so many times I was embarrassed. Almost. > That stack of OSB paid better interest than money in a savings account. > Wish I had a whole warehouse full right now, bought at the old price. > > On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 7:22 AM Rick Knoble via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> Have you priced a sheet of OSB lately? >> >> >> Rick >> >> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com >> Sent: July 15, 2021 7:11 AM >> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com >> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com >> Cc: ka...@striplin.net >> Subject: [MBZ] I have really got to dump USAA soon >> >> Received the renewal notice for Okie Acres. Last year they jacked it >> up from around $3400 a year (which was up from about $2600 the year >> before) to $4300. Renewal for this year is up to $5400. WTF??? That is >> totally insane. >> Never had a claim with them, have 5 cars and 2 houses insured, lord >> only knows what the renewal for the other house will be. I had to do >> a double take on the amount. USAA is pricing themselves out of business. >> >> I wonder if I should do quotes online or actually visit several >> agents in person. Maybe one of those that sell insurance several different >> companies. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> ___ >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.okiebenz.com__;!!IQRisXbPUUyI! >> q0XHpx0eDDZumx9NT__TV1ZkLN4hsRHyNUS2g3HmDBlFEcc0hrvCgZNr-CPuVZllcQ$ >> >> To search list archives >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/__;!!IQRi >> sXbPUUyI!q0XHpx0eDDZumx9NT__TV1ZkLN4hsRHyNUS2g3HmDBlFEcc0hrvCgZNr-COd >> exNeqQ$ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo >> /mercedes_okiebenz.com__;!!IQRisXbPUUyI!q0XHpx0eDDZumx9NT__TV1ZkLN4hs >> RHyNUS2g3HmDBlFEcc0hrvCgZNr-CON-01_vw$ >> >> ___ >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.okiebenz.com__;!!IQRisXbPUUyI! >> q0XHpx0eDDZumx9NT__TV1ZkLN4hsRHyNUS2g3HmDBlFEcc0hrvCgZNr-CPuVZllcQ$ >> >> To search list archives >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/__;!!IQRi >> sXbPUUyI!q0XHpx0eDDZumx9NT__TV1ZkLN4hsRHyNUS2g3HmDBlFEcc0hrvCgZNr-COd >> exNeqQ$ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo >> /mercedes_okiebenz.com__;!!IQRisXbPUUyI!q0XHpx0eDDZumx9NT__TV1ZkLN4hs >> RHyNUS2g3HmDBlFEcc0hrvCgZNr-CON-01_vw$ >> >> > ___ > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.okiebenz.com__;!!IQRisXbPUUyI!q > 0XHpx0eDDZumx9NT__TV1ZkLN4hsRHyNUS2g3HmDBlFEcc0hrvCgZNr-CPuVZllcQ$ > > To search list archives > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/__;!!IQRis >
Re: [MBZ] 99 E320S 4Matic wagon - $1,500
That is a really good question. 140K and seems cheap. Maybe the a/C doesn’t work and that’s why they are selling it now. Did these evap problems? I know about the spring perches but that’s not a huge problem. Donald H. Snook > On Feb 3, 2021, at 1:10 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > > I'm always amazed at how inexpensive these wagons are - even the clean > ones. What am I missing - any fatal flaws? > >> On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 1:46 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> 145K miles and a salt zone car, no interior pics but doens't look bad. >> >> >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/cto/d/oak-park-1999-mercedes-wagon-4wd-loaded/7271775993.html__;!!IQRisXbPUUyI!rcT4MqEUuLvQANwLxIXw1SjfJkwWCTROEihSq3IFcC4qfyRuyXOdGNQvkITriKQQcg$ >> >> >> Loball for the Obama sticker? >> >> >> ___ >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.okiebenz.com__;!!IQRisXbPUUyI!rcT4MqEUuLvQANwLxIXw1SjfJkwWCTROEihSq3IFcC4qfyRuyXOdGNQvkIR0gc_oJQ$ >> >> >> To search list archives >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/__;!!IQRisXbPUUyI!rcT4MqEUuLvQANwLxIXw1SjfJkwWCTROEihSq3IFcC4qfyRuyXOdGNQvkISPuc_9Xw$ >> >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com__;!!IQRisXbPUUyI!rcT4MqEUuLvQANwLxIXw1SjfJkwWCTROEihSq3IFcC4qfyRuyXOdGNQvkIRA2Wd_ow$ >> >> >> > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vacuum line mystery
That is my wedding ring. My wife likes vintage Jewelry so she picked it out. When I got it, my friends asked I won the Super Bowl. It is a big ring, but I like it. Don Snook -Original Message- From: Andrew Strasfogel Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2021 3:23 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Donald Snook Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vacuum line mystery Ship me that gold ring and I will send you an answer. On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 3:33 PM Donald Snook via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > On the Kaleb 240D, I have a black rubber vacuum line coming off the > injection pump. It is not connected to anything. > > > > Donald H. Snook > > ___ > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.okiebenz.com__;!!IQRisXbPUUyI!p > -feV7bLWkvrktyJ12t0LrM_bXp2Cn8zloQj7pfy9xZPRXJpgk1rxmAw6_wFlVe6CA$ > > To search list archives > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/__;!!IQRis > XbPUUyI!p-feV7bLWkvrktyJ12t0LrM_bXp2Cn8zloQj7pfy9xZPRXJpgk1rxmAw6_xRFI > TNfQ$ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/ > mercedes_okiebenz.com__;!!IQRisXbPUUyI!p-feV7bLWkvrktyJ12t0LrM_bXp2Cn8 > zloQj7pfy9xZPRXJpgk1rxmAw6_wcLEDCdw$ > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My first car
My first car was a 1978 Oldsmobile Delta 88. I'm not sure how many miles it had. My brother sold it to me for $100. I'm pretty sure my parents made him sell it and helped him buy his next car. It was completely worn out. In 1978 the gas crisis wasn't that long before and GM had developed some pretty small engines for large cars. It had a 260 cu v-8. That doesn't sound tiny nowadays. But, a 78 Oldsmobile was a BIG heavy car. To make things worse, someone before my brother had used it for towing. So, when my brother sold it to me, he took me to Jiffy Lube. He said if you get your oil changed here they will do a "fluid check" whenever you pull in and will fill up any fluids that are low. He recommended that I go to JL at least once a week. That old car used, leaked, or vaporized oil very quickly. But, that wasn't the most interesting issues it had. The other mysterious problems it had were: 1. If the front was parked downhill, the rear speakers didn't work. UNLESS, you honked the horn and then the horn came through the speakers. 2. If it was running and the passenger door was opened exhaust would pour into the car. 3. The headliner fell down. So, being a 16 year old poor dumb kid, I used a staple gun to staple it up. It took approximately 6000 staples. I'm sure it cost more to staple than to fix it. 4. If the cigarette lighter was pushed, it would heat up and SHOOT OUT onto the passenger seat glowing red. It had other problems too. Mostly it was just a piece of junk. But, I was 16 and it was big and A LOT of people could ride in it. Regarding your car, my father had a 1968 Camaro. It was a SS/396 and it was orange and white. It was incredible. When I was born and my parents had two children, they traded off the Camaro for a Buick Station Wagon. I'm glad I was just a baby or else I would have been very upset. Don Snook -Original Message- From: rmassm...@embarqmail.com Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2021 10:22 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] My first car My first car was a 1968 Camaro, looked a lot like this on bring a trailer. Mine had 327 V8 with factory four speed. Paint was a light metallic green. It also had the SS detail package with factory gauge package. Bought it when I was in the Navy in 1972. It had been wrenched at some point. Only sold it for about 2500. Would be worth a lot more now, if only I new. Replaced it with Mazda RX-3 wagon, because I was fly radio control gliders, which was kind of hard to transport in two door coup. See link below. (Lot #42,596) (https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1968-chevrolet-camaro-75/?utm_source=dm_medium=email_campaign=2021-02-02__;!!IQRisXbPUUyI!tpnyVVrlMSNJkg9yN9dAgHt1ucJCGCbWuujzmJLjELRXNTWcTFSsmdG59VgOi5uVOQ$ ) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Car list
Keep in mind, I am only 47 years old Cars in order (mostly) 1978 Oldsmobile Delta 88 Royale - The Snookmobile. Total piece of worn out junk, but at 16 I loved it! 1982 Nissan Sentra Wagon (automatic 68 HP) My mother made me drive it when I wrecked the 88. * 1987 Honda Civic DX Hatchback 5 speed burned up the clutch 1988 Mercury Tracer Wagon - blew out the transmission in the snow 1985 Oldsmobile Toronado* 1988 Oldsmobile Cutlass Calais International Series 1981 Oldsmobile 98 Regency "Spoonmobile" crashed into a fire hydrant - they do not break off * 1971 Mercedes 250/8 I loved this car. Red with white interior 1984 Oldsmobile Delta 88 Brougham (great car, ran it up to 270K miles) * 1982 Honda Accord bought it for $82 (paid bill to replace window, got the car) 1985 Oldsmobile 98 Regency Brougham * 1990 Oldsmobile 88 1993 Chrysler Lebaron GTC Convertible 1997 Honda Accord Coupe 1979 Jeep Grand Wagoneer 1982 Mercedes 300D 1986 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme 1990 Mazda 626 1988 Buick LeSabre Custom 1996 Oldsmobile Cutlass Ciera SL (the most boring car ever made and totally reliable) 1999 Oldsmobile Intrigue 1982 Mercedes 280E (Grey Market) 1997 Ford Explorer XLT 1990 Mercedes 300D 2.5 1991 Oldsmobile 98 Regency Elite 1990 Mercedes 300SEL 1994 Toyota Camry XLE 2001 Ford Expedition Eddie Bauer 1988 Buick LeSabre 1990 Volvo 240DL 1993 Cadillac Sedan DeVille 1997 Mercury Grand Marquis 1995 BMW 740iL 2001 BMW 528i 1993 Cadillac STS 1995 Mercedes E320 2000 BMW 740iL 2003 Lexus ES300 2004 Jaquar XJR 2000 BMW 740iL 1992 Ford F-150 XLT 2001 BMW 740i Sport 1999 BMW 740iL 2002 BMW 525i Touring (wagon) 2017 Toyota 4Runner SR5 Premium 1982 Mercedes 300D 1984 Chevrolet Corvette 2019 Chevrolet Silverado RST Crewcab 1981 Mercedes 240D (manual) The * early in the list indicates I bought them from my Uncle who had a small car lot Don Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Instrument cluster Fuse?
Already tried the rheostat. Nothing Donald H. Snook FedEx Freight Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 23, 2021, at 6:43 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: > > That’s a feature. > > It’s not a fuse, it’s a bad rheostat for the lighting. Turn the knob on the > rheostat for the instrument lights a little and they’ll most likely come on. > > You bought a KlebCar. Let the fun begin. > > -D > >> On Jan 23, 2021, at 7:36 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Is there a fuse for the instrument cluster on a 123? Mine is BLACK. Not dim >> or dark. Totally black >> >> Donald H. Snook >> >> >> ___ >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.okiebenz.com__;!!IQRisXbPUUyI!oHI4VXS6vFIEtB03Z7yWZuMCA6R2PNQIS2JPIOFjaM-A4TcppNy_6H4_FPf_tv8BGw$ >> >> >> To search list archives >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/__;!!IQRisXbPUUyI!oHI4VXS6vFIEtB03Z7yWZuMCA6R2PNQIS2JPIOFjaM-A4TcppNy_6H4_FPf2wJdkyQ$ >> >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com__;!!IQRisXbPUUyI!oHI4VXS6vFIEtB03Z7yWZuMCA6R2PNQIS2JPIOFjaM-A4TcppNy_6H4_FPfbCOBQtg$ >> >> > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 123 Tires and OT Truck Tire Questions
I was just thinking about my upcoming trip from Okie Acres to Memphis in the 240D. I’m not sure about condition of tires so I imagine I will replace the tires later if needed. I was checking and the original size is 175/70/14. Apparently that size doesn’t exist anymore and most people are using 185-70-14 which is pretty close to the original. Anybody have recommendations for tires in this size that you all have used on a 123? As far as the OT Truck question, I have a 2019 Chevy Silverado that I bought back in May. It has 10,000 miles now. I have noticed that if it is raining (or even just slightly wet), the tires will spin when trying to take off from a stop. I wondered if this was just because it was a truck with no weight in the bed. BUT, I was just reading reviews of these tires (Goodyear Fortitude HT) and LOTS of people complain about wet traction. Anybody have a full size truck/SUV and really like the tires they have? Or have experience with others to avoid? The truck is 2WD and weather in Memphis is pretty mild (except in the summer!). Donald H. Snook FedEx Freight Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Off topic oil question
For old school NON-MB (cast iron block) and 1984 technology would shell Rotella (or something similar) be best because of the higher zinc content? Donald H. Snook FedEx Freight Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 126 values
Found an 88 560SEL with 87K miles at an estate sale. They want $7500 at an estate sale. I started it and it has an exhaust leak. But, everything works. It has sat for 2 years. Some minor haze (oxidation) on paint. I could buff it out. Pretty good paint. Seats have very minor sun fade. I’m thinking $4k is reasonable, but thinking about offering $3800. It is clean. Everything works except back door lock passenger side doesn’t open automatically. Donald H. Snook FedEx Freight Sent from my iPhone___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [EXTERNAL] Re: Wheel pics
I like the look of the painted caps AND the bundts. Karl W. also has bundts that are being refinished that will essentially be new. I like the bundts too – especially if they look new. I have to decide if I am keeping the 82 300D. Don Snook From: Dwight Giles Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2019 9:48 AM To: Don Snook ; Dimitri Seretakis Cc: Mercedes Discussion List ; Mitch Haley Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [MBZ] Wheel pics Dimitri has painted caps on his 300D and has won prizes at the NE MBCA events. Dwight E. Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 11:00 PM Don Snook mailto:donald.sn...@fedex.com>> wrote: I really like the painted caps and steel wheels. However, it would make it look like a 240. Donald H. Snook FedEx Freight Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 7, 2019, at 9:39 PM, Dwight Giles > mailto:dwight.gi...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > So Bundt uglies? > > Dwight Giles Jr. > Wickford RI > > On Mon, Oct 7, 2019, 10:23 PM Don Snook via Mercedes > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> > wrote: > >> I know the wheels are wrong and they are ugly. If I keep the car I will >> definitely change them. And it’s a 300D. I was asking about the 240D as a >> possible replacement. >> >> Donald H. Snook >> FedEx Freight >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Oct 7, 2019, at 4:55 PM, Mitch Haley >>> mailto:mi...@mitchellhaley.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Those pics make it more obvious. >>> The offset appears to be too much. >>> IIRC, W123s had offsets from ET28 to ET36, most around 28-30. >>> Looks like your 240D came with 30 offset. >>> Are those wheels closer to 40? >>> >>> Mitch >>> >>> >> ___ >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.okiebenz.com=DwIFaQ=fpIeS8RwmHkY2r_dFRL5tQ=bWLZ-Rj1m7MhCstkQrL5NWSSU_DVYZAi80tDFdEWNn0=-KKeuD_eqqNW42eG_oXTS8xMPKfRJs08Oh1HtPo0syo=qqIT3ferC5DTyv45oXSNYosrhFh2416VMH0noiDEQYU= >> >> To search list archives >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.okiebenz.com_archive_=DwIFaQ=fpIeS8RwmHkY2r_dFRL5tQ=bWLZ-Rj1m7MhCstkQrL5NWSSU_DVYZAi80tDFdEWNn0=-KKeuD_eqqNW42eG_oXTS8xMPKfRJs08Oh1HtPo0syo=ZUgVCf_qQtMBzofEVk2KiYVnJEbn3VuZydxx8QWm3tc= >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__mail.okiebenz.com_mailman_listinfo_mercedes-5Fokiebenz.com=DwIFaQ=fpIeS8RwmHkY2r_dFRL5tQ=bWLZ-Rj1m7MhCstkQrL5NWSSU_DVYZAi80tDFdEWNn0=-KKeuD_eqqNW42eG_oXTS8xMPKfRJs08Oh1HtPo0syo=huZmVKdtYa-Mi-KdKd5efgOXOKpL-4T-J2qkCz9AtuA= >> >> > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wheel pics
I really like the painted caps and steel wheels. However, it would make it look like a 240. Donald H. Snook FedEx Freight Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 7, 2019, at 9:39 PM, Dwight Giles wrote: > > So Bundt uglies? > > Dwight Giles Jr. > Wickford RI > > On Mon, Oct 7, 2019, 10:23 PM Don Snook via Mercedes > wrote: > >> I know the wheels are wrong and they are ugly. If I keep the car I will >> definitely change them. And it’s a 300D. I was asking about the 240D as a >> possible replacement. >> >> Donald H. Snook >> FedEx Freight >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Oct 7, 2019, at 4:55 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: >>> >>> Those pics make it more obvious. >>> The offset appears to be too much. >>> IIRC, W123s had offsets from ET28 to ET36, most around 28-30. >>> Looks like your 240D came with 30 offset. >>> Are those wheels closer to 40? >>> >>> Mitch >>> >>> >> ___ >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.okiebenz.com=DwIFaQ=fpIeS8RwmHkY2r_dFRL5tQ=bWLZ-Rj1m7MhCstkQrL5NWSSU_DVYZAi80tDFdEWNn0=-KKeuD_eqqNW42eG_oXTS8xMPKfRJs08Oh1HtPo0syo=qqIT3ferC5DTyv45oXSNYosrhFh2416VMH0noiDEQYU= >> >> To search list archives >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.okiebenz.com_archive_=DwIFaQ=fpIeS8RwmHkY2r_dFRL5tQ=bWLZ-Rj1m7MhCstkQrL5NWSSU_DVYZAi80tDFdEWNn0=-KKeuD_eqqNW42eG_oXTS8xMPKfRJs08Oh1HtPo0syo=ZUgVCf_qQtMBzofEVk2KiYVnJEbn3VuZydxx8QWm3tc= >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__mail.okiebenz.com_mailman_listinfo_mercedes-5Fokiebenz.com=DwIFaQ=fpIeS8RwmHkY2r_dFRL5tQ=bWLZ-Rj1m7MhCstkQrL5NWSSU_DVYZAi80tDFdEWNn0=-KKeuD_eqqNW42eG_oXTS8xMPKfRJs08Oh1HtPo0syo=huZmVKdtYa-Mi-KdKd5efgOXOKpL-4T-J2qkCz9AtuA= >> >> > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wheel pics
I know the wheels are wrong and they are ugly. If I keep the car I will definitely change them. And it’s a 300D. I was asking about the 240D as a possible replacement. Donald H. Snook FedEx Freight Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 7, 2019, at 4:55 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: > > Those pics make it more obvious. > The offset appears to be too much. > IIRC, W123s had offsets from ET28 to ET36, most around 28-30. > Looks like your 240D came with 30 offset. > Are those wheels closer to 40? > > Mitch > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 107 SL question
No. Definitely not Okie Acres. Thinking of spending a little more for my show car. So, maybe the 240D would be better. Also considering the 107. Only want one old car! Donald H. Snook FedEx Freight Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 7, 2019, at 6:07 PM, Kaleb Striplin wrote: > > Are you trying to start Okie Acres Memphis? > > You can’t assume the chain has been converted unless there are receipts or > you pull a valve cover. The 380 will be somewhat underpowered and will not > get very good mileage. You should be able to fit it but it will sit lower to > the ground > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Oct 7, 2019, at 10:56 AM, Don Snook via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> I found a triple black 380SL with 123K miles. It has soft top and hard top. >> Seller claims "everything works as it should." Also says it is a one owner >> car "with all paperwork and receipts." So, assuming this is all true, I >> think it seems save to say the timing chain has been changed to the double >> row. If it really has all the receipts that will answer the question. So, >> other than the timing chain issue, is there some other deal breaker I should >> check. Also, I'm 6'2" and 240 lbs. Can I fit in this car? I fit fine in >> the 123. >> >> Donald H. Snook >> ___ >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.okiebenz.com=DwIFaQ=fpIeS8RwmHkY2r_dFRL5tQ=bWLZ-Rj1m7MhCstkQrL5NWSSU_DVYZAi80tDFdEWNn0=1hfKV6tGUnyda1E6YTJBKF8qkhRaymJdBcpBKA-T-gM=yu8F54cKfn4glN_IqLoN7juVe4gAzNqz2-bx_XMcG_s= >> >> To search list archives >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.okiebenz.com_archive_=DwIFaQ=fpIeS8RwmHkY2r_dFRL5tQ=bWLZ-Rj1m7MhCstkQrL5NWSSU_DVYZAi80tDFdEWNn0=1hfKV6tGUnyda1E6YTJBKF8qkhRaymJdBcpBKA-T-gM=-4ZAuTAWddFhCv8rwdg2FxTa8U-J8zn7YkUZdbQAiMk= >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__mail.okiebenz.com_mailman_listinfo_mercedes-5Fokiebenz.com=DwIFaQ=fpIeS8RwmHkY2r_dFRL5tQ=bWLZ-Rj1m7MhCstkQrL5NWSSU_DVYZAi80tDFdEWNn0=1hfKV6tGUnyda1E6YTJBKF8qkhRaymJdBcpBKA-T-gM=qrxfRjw8TQJ_DcgqYP1ERcxHNv6-RPsZjBF0IDdflTc= >> > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Wheel pics
Apparently I included one wrong pic of the car. They are the same on both sides. Donald H. Snook FedEx Freight Sent from my iPhone___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 82 240D pricing
Ok you all have convinced me that a 240D isn't quite as dangerous to drive as I thought. So, how about pricing? I know it is very difficult to say without seeing it in person and knowing some history. But, here is what I do know. Everything works - including the a/c. It has 221,000 miles. It appears to have no rust. Regular crank windows (did they all have this?) New tires. New battery. Injectors recently serviced. Brakes are either new or they were "serviced", cleaned out the fuel tank. Clean interior. A few cracks in the dash. Wood on the center console has lots of cracks. Paint looks decent but a little oxidized. I can deal with oxidation. Its clear coat problems that I don't like. I don't think these had clear coat back in 82. What are these worth? $2000? $1800? I asked the seller if there was anything specific wrong with it. His response was "NOTHING" And, yes he put it in all caps. I paid $1000 for mine. So, it seems like this ought to be worth at least $500-700 more just with decent paint and working airconditioning. The painted hubcaps don't match. But, I just happened to buy a set of them that are all metal - ie no paint. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 107 SL question
Correction. It’s an 82. Donald H. Snook > On Oct 7, 2019, at 11:48 AM, Don Snook wrote: > > 1983 $4200 > > Don Snook > > -Original Message- > From: Andrew Strasfogel > Sent: Monday, October 7, 2019 11:41 AM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 107 SL question > > Price and year both matter. > >> On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 12:36 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> What year? it matters. >> >> I think sitting on the pavement, and getting up from a seated position >> on the pavement will get old quick. there is very little space to get >> long legs in and out behind the door hinge area. #1 Daughter has had >> one for years. I am not near as tall as you, and I hate getting in and >> out of the thing. It has gotten to where I despise driving it for a >> test run because it is such a pain to get in and out of. >> >> I will admit, I am spoiled by years of driving 110 and 123 cars, and >> trucks and vans. I got to really liking to drive the IH4700 with DT266E >> and air suspension and air ride seat over long distances.The truck >> originally ran garlic from Gilroy to Lost Angels. >> >> Don Snook via Mercedes wrote on 10/7/19 10:56 AM: >>> I found a triple black 380SL with 123K miles. It has soft top and >>> hard >> top. Seller claims "everything works as it should." Also says it is a one >> owner car "with all paperwork and receipts." So, assuming this is all >> true, I think it seems save to say the timing chain has been changed >> to the double row. If it really has all the receipts that will answer the >> question. So, other than the timing chain issue, is there some other deal >> breaker I should check. Also, I'm 6'2" and 240 lbs. Can I fit in >> this car? I fit fine in the 123. >>> >>> Donald H. Snook >>> >> >> >> ___ >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.okiebenz.com >> =DwIBaQ=fpIeS8RwmHkY2r_dFRL5tQ=bWLZ-Rj1m7MhCstkQrL5NWSSU_DVYZAi80t >> DFdEWNn0=Lqt4Vrw95GMVzdomWrf-1h7afmbmszNSXh3zJuitDao=SLYp4WaM9_bcN >> m-wL4UhVWcua04fuNV_N6Vp_OEOYEw= >> >> To search list archives >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.okiebenz.com_a >> rchive_=DwIBaQ=fpIeS8RwmHkY2r_dFRL5tQ=bWLZ-Rj1m7MhCstkQrL5NWSSU_ >> DVYZAi80tDFdEWNn0=Lqt4Vrw95GMVzdomWrf-1h7afmbmszNSXh3zJuitDao=V3Dl >> j5EesX3EfjFikVhLbNfD9RM3rOxn1BBFZTdGdD4= >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__mail.okiebenz.com_ >> mailman_listinfo_mercedes-5Fokiebenz.com=DwIBaQ=fpIeS8RwmHkY2r_dFR >> L5tQ=bWLZ-Rj1m7MhCstkQrL5NWSSU_DVYZAi80tDFdEWNn0=Lqt4Vrw95GMVzdomWrf-1h7afmbmszNSXh3zJuitDao=80inHbpXsZDvslwPUwqGjtJQwR_b0FyrM5tK5am3C2Q= >> >> > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 107 SL question
1983 $4200 Don Snook -Original Message- From: Andrew Strasfogel Sent: Monday, October 7, 2019 11:41 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 107 SL question Price and year both matter. On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 12:36 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > What year? it matters. > > I think sitting on the pavement, and getting up from a seated position > on the pavement will get old quick. there is very little space to get > long legs in and out behind the door hinge area. #1 Daughter has had > one for years. I am not near as tall as you, and I hate getting in and > out of the thing. It has gotten to where I despise driving it for a > test run because it is such a pain to get in and out of. > > I will admit, I am spoiled by years of driving 110 and 123 cars, and > trucks and vans. I got to really liking to drive the IH4700 with DT266E > and air suspension and air ride seat over long distances.The truck > originally ran garlic from Gilroy to Lost Angels. > > Don Snook via Mercedes wrote on 10/7/19 10:56 AM: > > I found a triple black 380SL with 123K miles. It has soft top and > > hard > top. Seller claims "everything works as it should." Also says it is a one > owner car "with all paperwork and receipts." So, assuming this is all > true, I think it seems save to say the timing chain has been changed > to the double row. If it really has all the receipts that will answer the > question. So, other than the timing chain issue, is there some other deal > breaker I should check. Also, I'm 6'2" and 240 lbs. Can I fit in > this car? I fit fine in the 123. > > > > Donald H. Snook > > > > > ___ > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.okiebenz.com > =DwIBaQ=fpIeS8RwmHkY2r_dFRL5tQ=bWLZ-Rj1m7MhCstkQrL5NWSSU_DVYZAi80t > DFdEWNn0=Lqt4Vrw95GMVzdomWrf-1h7afmbmszNSXh3zJuitDao=SLYp4WaM9_bcN > m-wL4UhVWcua04fuNV_N6Vp_OEOYEw= > > To search list archives > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.okiebenz.com_a > rchive_=DwIBaQ=fpIeS8RwmHkY2r_dFRL5tQ=bWLZ-Rj1m7MhCstkQrL5NWSSU_ > DVYZAi80tDFdEWNn0=Lqt4Vrw95GMVzdomWrf-1h7afmbmszNSXh3zJuitDao=V3Dl > j5EesX3EfjFikVhLbNfD9RM3rOxn1BBFZTdGdD4= > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__mail.okiebenz.com_ > mailman_listinfo_mercedes-5Fokiebenz.com=DwIBaQ=fpIeS8RwmHkY2r_dFR > L5tQ=bWLZ-Rj1m7MhCstkQrL5NWSSU_DVYZAi80tDFdEWNn0=Lqt4Vrw95GMVzdomWrf-1h7afmbmszNSXh3zJuitDao=80inHbpXsZDvslwPUwqGjtJQwR_b0FyrM5tK5am3C2Q= > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 107 SL question
I found a triple black 380SL with 123K miles. It has soft top and hard top. Seller claims "everything works as it should." Also says it is a one owner car "with all paperwork and receipts." So, assuming this is all true, I think it seems save to say the timing chain has been changed to the double row. If it really has all the receipts that will answer the question. So, other than the timing chain issue, is there some other deal breaker I should check. Also, I'm 6'2" and 240 lbs. Can I fit in this car? I fit fine in the 123. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?
I found an 82 240D automatic nearby with 211K miles. Has working a/c and good paint and interior. No rust. Everything works. But, I was looking up the specs on it. These cars have 67 HP (yes that is right, 67 horsepower). Top Speed 86 mph (this is a factory claim. I couldn't find anyone that actually tested or confirmed this). Here is the really scary part. 0-75 mph takes 45 seconds! AND to get from 40 mph up to 75 takes 23 seconds. So, lets say you have a long entrance ramp on a highway and you can get it up to 40 mph. It will then take another 23 seconds to get up to 75 mph. Those numbers seem really slow - maybe that is a little off. But, this is one indication. Guess what the speed is for the quarter mile for this car? 60 MILES AN HOUR. So, it takes a quarter mile to get to 60! I'm not sure that is safe to be on the highway! These numbers sound like it could be dangerous trying to drive on a highway considering 70-80 mph is pretty much regular traffic flow. Are these really this bad? Anyone have one of these and tried to drive it at highway speeds recently? Donald H. Snook 1982 300D (Award Winner!) 2017 Toyota 4Runner ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] It’s like a whole new Bob!
The Bowden cable was sort of the issue. The linkage was not placed corrected. When the throttle linkage moved, it was not pulling the cable at all. I clicked it over and it was like EUREKA! So, I just went for a drive and it downshifted, it delayed upshift as I was accelerating and it shifted into third! It’s like a rocket by comparison. Really! So, the transmission was not shifting due to any input from the throttle. It was simply shifting based on a rev limit. So, it didn’t know I was accelerating and it never made it to third because I didn’t ever reach the rev limit for 4th. WOW! You guys are great! Thanks so much to Jamie and Meade!!! Now, I need to figure out the big clunk when it downshifts when I’m slowing down. Is that some sort of transmission mount? Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [EXTERNAL] Re: update on "Bob Dole" the 123
Do I turn the nut to make it tighter or looser? Donald H. Snook FedEx Freight Sent from my iPhone On Oct 4, 2019, at 2:10 PM, Jaime Kopchinski mailto:jaime...@gmail.com>> wrote: Yeah, just pop the end of the cable off the ball on the linkage. You should pull it and get some good spring resistance, then it should go back in by itself. If its very easy to pull and/or doesn't go back in, its broken. Adjusted properly, it should just be under slight tension when the linkage is idle, so it gets pulled as soon as the linkage moves. Jaime On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 3:05 PM Don Snook mailto:donald.sn...@fedex.com>> wrote: I think you and Meade are exactly right. I don't think it shifted again between 20 and 75. It sounded like it was revving pretty high at 70 mph. The third little sets of dots is around 70 mph. This car DEFINITELY did not shift again at those speeds. While I was driving here (500 mile trip that was 90% highway) I don't think it shifted past 30 mph. But, I don't know specifically. SO, now I need to figure out how to check the Bowden cable. That's the little squiggly red cable thing, right? Don Snook -Original Message- From: Jaime Kopchinski mailto:jaime...@gmail.com>> Sent: Friday, October 4, 2019 1:24 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] update on "Bob Dole" the 123 I think you have a broken bowden cable. Normally the transmission sits in second gear at idle and stationary. It downshifts to first when you step on the accelerator any amount. When its adjusted properly, you never even notice. This is to reduce creep. Since you are starting in second gear and shifting early, It seems very likely its the cable. That is, the transmission doesn't know you're accelerating. In L, it will hold first gear unit redline no matter how hard you press the accelerator. If you move it to S and back to L quickly, you'll be in second at that point. Shift back up to S and you'll be in third. And D goes to forth if you're going fast enough. Try winding out each gear like this to ensure you can distinctly feel each one. Its very likely you're not getting into 4th and you drove without any issues at 70mph for a long period of time. Jaime On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 2:14 PM Don Snook mailto:donald.sn...@fedex.com>> wrote: > Ok. I took it for a drive for lunch. I think these start out in second > unless it is floored then the kickdown works. So, I left work and floored > it. I think it was still in second and it shifted at about 18-20 mph. > Then, I don't think it shifted again. Really. I never felt another > shift. So, I tried taking a side road. I pulled over and put the shifter > into L. I assume that means it is in first. I let the revs get > pretty high and moved it up to S and it shifted. Then, I went ahead and > moved it > to D. It still did not shift again. Could this be starting in second > and then staying in third without getting to 4th or overdrive? When > the tach was working on the trip back 75 mpg was about 3100 rpm which > would be pretty accurate. But, when I drove it on the highway it felt > like one shift from 2-3 and then no more shifts. It just stayed in > that gear all the way to 70 mph. I couldn't go faster than that > because of traffic and cops. I pulled onto an on -ramp and floored > it. It had already shifted, but even at 30-35 with it floored, it never down > shifted. > > Don Snook > > > > -Original Message- > From: Jaime Kopchinski mailto:jaime...@gmail.com>> > Sent: Friday, October 4, 2019 12:54 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] update on "Bob Dole" the 123 > > To dial in the trans, I recommend you get an actual pressure gauge and > set the modulator pressure by the book. It takes the guess work out > of it and really does hit that perfect balance between soft and firm > shifts. There are a few cheap gauge kits out there and connection is > easy... just remove the plug next to the modulator and connect up the hose to > the gauge. > > Jaime > > > On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 1:49 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote: > > > I predict that your biggest challenge will be fine tuning the > > shifting of the transmission. > > > > On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 1:10 PM Meade Dillon via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote: > > > > > Good progress! > > > > > > What is the zero to 60 time? > > > - > > > Max > > > Charleston SC > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 12:19 PM
Re: [MBZ] update on "Bob Dole" the 123
I think you and Meade are exactly right. I don't think it shifted again between 20 and 75. It sounded like it was revving pretty high at 70 mph. The third little sets of dots is around 70 mph. This car DEFINITELY did not shift again at those speeds. While I was driving here (500 mile trip that was 90% highway) I don't think it shifted past 30 mph. But, I don't know specifically. SO, now I need to figure out how to check the Bowden cable. That's the little squiggly red cable thing, right? Don Snook -Original Message- From: Jaime Kopchinski Sent: Friday, October 4, 2019 1:24 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] update on "Bob Dole" the 123 I think you have a broken bowden cable. Normally the transmission sits in second gear at idle and stationary. It downshifts to first when you step on the accelerator any amount. When its adjusted properly, you never even notice. This is to reduce creep. Since you are starting in second gear and shifting early, It seems very likely its the cable. That is, the transmission doesn't know you're accelerating. In L, it will hold first gear unit redline no matter how hard you press the accelerator. If you move it to S and back to L quickly, you'll be in second at that point. Shift back up to S and you'll be in third. And D goes to forth if you're going fast enough. Try winding out each gear like this to ensure you can distinctly feel each one. Its very likely you're not getting into 4th and you drove without any issues at 70mph for a long period of time. Jaime On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 2:14 PM Don Snook wrote: > Ok. I took it for a drive for lunch. I think these start out in second > unless it is floored then the kickdown works. So, I left work and floored > it. I think it was still in second and it shifted at about 18-20 mph. > Then, I don't think it shifted again. Really. I never felt another > shift. So, I tried taking a side road. I pulled over and put the shifter > into L. I assume that means it is in first. I let the revs get > pretty high and moved it up to S and it shifted. Then, I went ahead and > moved it > to D. It still did not shift again. Could this be starting in second > and then staying in third without getting to 4th or overdrive? When > the tach was working on the trip back 75 mpg was about 3100 rpm which > would be pretty accurate. But, when I drove it on the highway it felt > like one shift from 2-3 and then no more shifts. It just stayed in > that gear all the way to 70 mph. I couldn't go faster than that > because of traffic and cops. I pulled onto an on -ramp and floored > it. It had already shifted, but even at 30-35 with it floored, it never down > shifted. > > Don Snook > > > > -Original Message- > From: Jaime Kopchinski > Sent: Friday, October 4, 2019 12:54 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] update on "Bob Dole" the 123 > > To dial in the trans, I recommend you get an actual pressure gauge and > set the modulator pressure by the book. It takes the guess work out > of it and really does hit that perfect balance between soft and firm > shifts. There are a few cheap gauge kits out there and connection is > easy... just remove the plug next to the modulator and connect up the hose to > the gauge. > > Jaime > > > On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 1:49 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > I predict that your biggest challenge will be fine tuning the > > shifting of the transmission. > > > > On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 1:10 PM Meade Dillon via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > Good progress! > > > > > > What is the zero to 60 time? > > > - > > > Max > > > Charleston SC > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 12:19 PM Don Snook via Mercedes < > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > > > I have taken to calling my new to me 123 "Bob Dole" It has to > > > > be said quickly like the old Senator used to do when he referred > > > > to himself in > > > the > > > > third person. The reason for the possible name is > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. It is funny > > > > > > > > 2. I lived in Kansas for 17 years > > > > > > > > 3. The car is yellow (sort of) like a Dole Banana. ( I > suppose I > > > > could call it Chiquita) > > > > > > > > Anyway, I took some advice from listers combined with the stuff > > > > from > > Kent > > > > (Mercedes S
Re: [MBZ] update on "Bob Dole" the 123
Ok. I took it for a drive for lunch. I think these start out in second unless it is floored then the kickdown works. So, I left work and floored it. I think it was still in second and it shifted at about 18-20 mph. Then, I don't think it shifted again. Really. I never felt another shift. So, I tried taking a side road. I pulled over and put the shifter into L. I assume that means it is in first. I let the revs get pretty high and moved it up to S and it shifted. Then, I went ahead and moved it to D. It still did not shift again. Could this be starting in second and then staying in third without getting to 4th or overdrive? When the tach was working on the trip back 75 mpg was about 3100 rpm which would be pretty accurate. But, when I drove it on the highway it felt like one shift from 2-3 and then no more shifts. It just stayed in that gear all the way to 70 mph. I couldn't go faster than that because of traffic and cops. I pulled onto an on -ramp and floored it. It had already shifted, but even at 30-35 with it floored, it never down shifted. Don Snook -Original Message- From: Jaime Kopchinski Sent: Friday, October 4, 2019 12:54 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] update on "Bob Dole" the 123 To dial in the trans, I recommend you get an actual pressure gauge and set the modulator pressure by the book. It takes the guess work out of it and really does hit that perfect balance between soft and firm shifts. There are a few cheap gauge kits out there and connection is easy... just remove the plug next to the modulator and connect up the hose to the gauge. Jaime On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 1:49 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I predict that your biggest challenge will be fine tuning the shifting > of the transmission. > > On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 1:10 PM Meade Dillon via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > Good progress! > > > > What is the zero to 60 time? > > - > > Max > > Charleston SC > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 12:19 PM Don Snook via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > I have taken to calling my new to me 123 "Bob Dole" It has to be > > > said quickly like the old Senator used to do when he referred to > > > himself in > > the > > > third person. The reason for the possible name is > > > > > > > > > 1. It is funny > > > > > > 2. I lived in Kansas for 17 years > > > > > > 3. The car is yellow (sort of) like a Dole Banana. ( I suppose I > > > could call it Chiquita) > > > > > > Anyway, I took some advice from listers combined with the stuff > > > from > Kent > > > (Mercedes Source) and tried a few things last night. I did a diesel > > > purge. Changed fuel filter (secondary big one) and I removed the banjo > > > bolt and cleaned it out. I am not sure why but I thought the banjo > bolt > > > was bigger. It was definitely dirty. The little hole in the bolt was > > > clogged up black thick stuff. I did the oil cap blow by test. The > cap > > > danced a little. But, not much. I was watching a video from Kent > where > > > he proposes an old diesel cleanse. He takes vegetable oil and adds a > > > little liquid moly oil supplement and runs the car from an > > > external > tank > > > and uses the whole gallon of vegetable oil. It did seem to improve > the > > > smoothness and he claimed it could help with blowby. I'm sure it > > > can't hurt. I am going to try it later. > > > > > > BUT, doing the diesel purge and cleaning out banjo bolt made a BIG > > > difference. Yes, it is still a slow diesel. But, it seemed a lot > > faster. > > > I think the vacuum modulator on the transmission might need to be > > > addressed. The shifts are very smooth. In fact, they may be so > smooth I > > > can't feel the second one. It feels like it might be starting in > second > > > and then it shifts pretty early and then I don't feel the next shift at > > > all. I drove it to work today. SO, at lunch I will try again to see > > if I > > > can determine where the shifts occur. > > > > > > Donald H. Snook > > > ___ > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.okiebenz.c > > > om=DwIBaQ=fpIeS8RwmHkY2r_dFRL5tQ=bWLZ-Rj1m7MhCstkQrL5NWSSU_D > > > VYZAi80tDFdEWNn0=hZOKJ1nn9iTgt030ziZAyMIfjo8ftgYLY8FyN9bjdkU=x > > >
Re: [MBZ] 1999 SL500
It is 99 SL500 claimed to be in "showroom" condition with all service records. It has less than 60K miles. They are asking $14,900. But, that is just the ask. I'm sure there is room to negotiate. It is not the kind of car I would want. But, my friend has no kids and he has a 1970 Cutlass Convertible, a new Cadillac CT6, an old 80's Saab and now he is looking at this. Don Snook -Original Message- From: Floyd Thursby Sent: Friday, October 4, 2019 11:12 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1999 SL500 I have a 95 SL600. Amazing car. A coupla years in there the German gummint mandated biodegradable wiring insulation which causes untold problems. Mine has that issue sigh... 99 was after that fiasco, and the 500 is a solid engine, I don't think there are many problems with it other than the occasional sensor and such, which are not hard to fix. Wheels can be whatever you want, there are guys who like the monoblocks which tend to be pricey, but there are lots of other choices, the factory wheels don't look bad. Poos has one about that vintage, he can speak to that particular engine -- what I recall is that it has quite good performance. If it is in good shape I wouldn't hesitate, depending of course on the price. (Which, BTW, is what?) --FT On 10/4/19 11:58 AM, Don Snook via Mercedes wrote: > Don't worry I don't want to buy one of these. But, a friend of mine is > looking at one. I think I remember some sort of huge problem with these. > Like $2500 wheels (each)? Or some other very expensive problem with them. > Should I tell my friend to stay away? > > Donald H. Snook > ___ > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.okiebenz.com > =DwIDaQ=fpIeS8RwmHkY2r_dFRL5tQ=bWLZ-Rj1m7MhCstkQrL5NWSSU_DVYZAi80t > DFdEWNn0=5-hf2Fum894OkPdpS-2G0rzwuDBQqE80tW_zhh7u8Q8=gkeraWSiokWiJ > h5FjKBlbbWGuIwd54SJaOnt0ZGjWJ8= > > To search list archives > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.okiebenz.com_a > rchive_=DwIDaQ=fpIeS8RwmHkY2r_dFRL5tQ=bWLZ-Rj1m7MhCstkQrL5NWSSU_ > DVYZAi80tDFdEWNn0=5-hf2Fum894OkPdpS-2G0rzwuDBQqE80tW_zhh7u8Q8=KSaF > ao0nkf8_93tXN08P__vAGRCJfdd8Wjb54NmHRJI= > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__mail.okiebenz.com_ > mailman_listinfo_mercedes-5Fokiebenz.com=DwIDaQ=fpIeS8RwmHkY2r_dFR > L5tQ=bWLZ-Rj1m7MhCstkQrL5NWSSU_DVYZAi80tDFdEWNn0=5-hf2Fum894OkPdpS > -2G0rzwuDBQqE80tW_zhh7u8Q8=z4XgtOw1NtJAQBzavcokwHL0QqQYNzXCpWSmEljyI > 48= > > -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] One For Donald: German Cars For Sale Blog
Those "armored" 7 series were pretty cool. But, this car is a ticking time bomb. The timing chain guides WILL fail just like they did on my 2000 740iL. It is inevitable. I was VERY lucky that mine lasted until 255K miles. Most BMW folks will say that age plays a big part in the failure. I think it is one ingredient. But, about 125,000-150,000 is the prime time for failure. My other one was a 1999 and it had 155K miles on it when I traded it in. The guides were okay on it, but it was on borrowed time. The problem is if the guides fail and the engine can be shut down immeadiately, it is a $5,000 repair. If the engine is not shut down instantly, it is catastrophic failure. At that point and engine is the only way to go. I loved my 7 series. It was one of my favorite cars (I had 4 of them) and when they worked they were an absolute pleasure to drive. I once drove 2000 miles in 5 days including 1100 miles in one trip without stopping except for gas. It was very comfortable and I don't think I could have made that trip (1100 miles straight) in any other car. But, I could not justify buying these old cars when they need $5,000 in engine work just to have an old car with 150K that is going to need other things. Donald H. Snook -Original Message- From: Dan Penoff Sent: Friday, October 4, 2019 10:09 AM To: Mercedes List Subject: [MBZ] One For Donald: German Cars For Sale Blog One for Donald: -D Begin forwarded message: > From: German Cars For Sale Blog > Date: October 4, 2019 at 10:56:24 AM EDT > To: d...@penoff.com > Subject: German Cars For Sale Blog > Reply-To: German Cars For Sale Blog > > > German Cars For Sale Blog > 2000 BMW 740iL Protection Package > Posted: 04 Oct 2019 07:00 AM PDT > > > While Mercedes-Benz is the go-to for protected dignitaries, executives and > everyone else who has a potential mark of their back, they’re not alone in > offering upgraded armor to their lineup. BMW also entered the game with their > “Protection Package”. This turned the 7 into the ‘ultimate surviving machine’ > by adding bulletproof glass front, sides and rear along with armor behind the > body panels and no sunroof. A claimed 44 were sold here, making this one of > the most rare variants of any BMW imported: > > CLICK FOR DETAILS: 2000 BMW 740iL Protection Package on eBay > > > > > Year: 2000 > Model: 740iL Protection Package > VIN: WBAGH0349YDE05008 > Engine: 4.4 liter V8 > Transmission: 5-speed automatic > Mileage: 114,218 mi > Location: San Jose, California > Price: $13,600 Buy It Now > > > > Factory armored BMW 740iL with bullet-resistant glass with polycarbonate > skins (to retain glass splinters in the event of damage from projectiles) and > aramid armor in the doors and bulkheads. Armored by BMW, not aftermarket > vendor. You’ll need to look-up from BMW how much protection/bullet resistance > is provided. By design, only the front two windows (driver and passenger) > roll down. Rear windows are fixed in place and do not roll down for rear > passenger protection. I > > ‘ve owned this BMW for several years now and have not driven it much, so it’s > time to move on. It is a 19 year-old car, so it has some usual wear and tear > (known issues: windshield washer fluid pump needs to be replaced, sagging > headliner, glovebox latches funny, only one keyfob, AC blows cool but not > cold, small side trim damage on the passenger rear [see picture], some > “delamination” of the bullet-resistant glass on passenger front window, > bottom portions of front windshield and passenger upper corner…see pictures). > But overall, she still drives strong, non-smoker, and has aftermarket > wheels/body kit for a more refined look). Sold AS-IS, where-is. > > See my feedback. Buy from someone you can trust. > > (Original Base price: $103,069) > > ENGINE TYPE: DOHC 32-valve V-8, aluminum block and heads, Bosch Motronic > M5.2.1 engine-control system with port fuel injection > > Displacement: 268 cu in, 4398cc > Power (SAE net): 282 bhp @ 5400 rpm > Torque (SAE net): 324 lb-ft @ 3700 rpm > > TRANSMISSION: 5-speed automatic > > DIMENSIONS: > Wheelbase: 120.9 in Length: 201.7 in > > Curb weight: 4780 lb > Zero to 60 mph: 7.7 sec > > FUEL ECONOMY: > EPA city/highway driving: 17 mpg > C/D observed: 16 mpg > > > > In order to make the armoring work, these 7s have a lot of small detail > differences from the standard E38. Gone is not only the sunroof, but also the > rear reading lights from the C pillars. 750iLPs also came with a fixed center > console in the rear with radio controls and a gun holder. The armoring and > window protection added 340 plus pounds to the curb weight. Supposedly the > Protections added heavy-duty upgraded brakes to the package but I couldn’t > find actual specifications. It should also be noted that the windows were > bullet resistant – not bullet proof. Turns out Tupac may not have been better > off in this
[MBZ] update on "Bob Dole" the 123
I have taken to calling my new to me 123 "Bob Dole" It has to be said quickly like the old Senator used to do when he referred to himself in the third person. The reason for the possible name is 1. It is funny 2. I lived in Kansas for 17 years 3. The car is yellow (sort of) like a Dole Banana. ( I suppose I could call it Chiquita) Anyway, I took some advice from listers combined with the stuff from Kent (Mercedes Source) and tried a few things last night. I did a diesel purge. Changed fuel filter (secondary big one) and I removed the banjo bolt and cleaned it out. I am not sure why but I thought the banjo bolt was bigger. It was definitely dirty. The little hole in the bolt was clogged up black thick stuff. I did the oil cap blow by test. The cap danced a little. But, not much. I was watching a video from Kent where he proposes an old diesel cleanse. He takes vegetable oil and adds a little liquid moly oil supplement and runs the car from an external tank and uses the whole gallon of vegetable oil. It did seem to improve the smoothness and he claimed it could help with blowby. I'm sure it can't hurt. I am going to try it later. BUT, doing the diesel purge and cleaning out banjo bolt made a BIG difference. Yes, it is still a slow diesel. But, it seemed a lot faster. I think the vacuum modulator on the transmission might need to be addressed. The shifts are very smooth. In fact, they may be so smooth I can't feel the second one. It feels like it might be starting in second and then it shifts pretty early and then I don't feel the next shift at all. I drove it to work today. SO, at lunch I will try again to see if I can determine where the shifts occur. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [EXTERNAL] Re: 123 Diesel Plan of attack
I missed the email where Randy said his was a 76 300D. He sent me a picture. Oh my gosh I love it. Looks just like my old one! Now, the question is whether he wants to sell and for how much. Don Snook -Original Message- From: OK Don Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2019 7:13 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] [EXTERNAL] Re: 123 Diesel Plan of attack That's exactly the car that I was thinking is right for Snook - mine was green with a tqan interior - hated the color, but loved driving it until rust and a drunk driver took it. On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 4:17 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Then you need one like mine that has no carbs. 1976 115 300D - red > with the ivory interior. > > Randy > -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1999 SL500
Don't worry I don't want to buy one of these. But, a friend of mine is looking at one. I think I remember some sort of huge problem with these. Like $2500 wheels (each)? Or some other very expensive problem with them. Should I tell my friend to stay away? Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [EXTERNAL] Re: 123 Diesel Plan of attack
WOW! I just a memory come flooding back. My mother had a 1981 Chevy Chevette. It was a total piece of crap. She traded it in on an 82 Oldsmobile Omega. This would have been about 1984 or 85. The dealership had this beautiful 108/109 that was dark green. I was about 11 years old and I knew then it was the one I wanted her to get. But, it was a 1969 and the salesman said the price was $6900. At the time, the Oldsmobile Omega was about $2800 so there was no chance my Mom was buying it. I don’t remember which model it was. But, I still remember the front of that car and how cool I thought it was. Donald H. Snook Senior Counsel, Litigation FedEx Freight 1715 Aaron Brenner Dr. Memphis, TN 38120-1442 (901) 434-3183 Office (901) 468-1760 Fax (901) 846-9285 donald.sn...@fedex.com<mailto:donald.sn...@fedex.com> This message contains information that is confidential and proprietary to FedEx Freight or its affiliates. It is intended only for the recipient named and for the express purpose(s) described therein. Any other use is prohibited. From: Andrew Strasfogel Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2019 3:54 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: OK Don ; Don Snook Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [MBZ] 123 Diesel Plan of attack W108 OR 109 sedans are roomy enough and supremely classic in design, yet timeless On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 4:25 PM Don Snook via Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote: OK Don wrote: "Now remember, your initial criteria was for a classic looking MB - the W124 does not fit that. The W123 and W126 are marginal in my book as well, but much better (classic looks wise) than anything that followed them." That is a very good point and I do want to stick with 123 or older -- but I will say to most people the 124 probably would be considered a classic. It was certainly one of the very best cars that made such a great name for Mercedes in the USA. Yes, I know, the 123 really paved for the way for that. But, the 124 really represented the car that one the first Mercedes for a lot of people. It was no longer the car for a the pipe-smoking liberal college professors and the 126 (especially the 560) was more the Surgeons and Senior Partners at law firms. But, the 124 was the car built to appeal to more people here than ever before. Randy wrote: "Yeah! Dump that 123 for a quick profit and get Dan and Jaime to find you a finny or a ponton! Or go for broke and get something bigger. I think I recall that you are a big man. You need a BIG Mercedes. I was going to say a BLACK Mercedes, but maybe in Memphis, it would be better if it was a WHITE Mercedes just because of the heat." I am big -- although not as big as I used to be. Still 6'3" but about 50 lbs lighter than my max. The 126 definitely fits me better. In fact the 124 diesel that was mine then went to OK Don, then Kaleb, then Craig was a fantastic car, but it always seemed a little small to me which was why I sold it and got a 126. Don Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.okiebenz.com=DwMFaQ=fpIeS8RwmHkY2r_dFRL5tQ=bWLZ-Rj1m7MhCstkQrL5NWSSU_DVYZAi80tDFdEWNn0=coEr3lpE611zT0SudLdVLmnoQP0OhwwA3TkBGRchbpA=JbWX3pIVjLeJnN4Z2GPavEWyuzk4FjlhNvym7fFbdrg=> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.okiebenz.com_archive_=DwMFaQ=fpIeS8RwmHkY2r_dFRL5tQ=bWLZ-Rj1m7MhCstkQrL5NWSSU_DVYZAi80tDFdEWNn0=coEr3lpE611zT0SudLdVLmnoQP0OhwwA3TkBGRchbpA=UyCSINaEDhz4XaTng5xIJoMFYO6kF52niXe0uUotqpY=> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__mail.okiebenz.com_mailman_listinfo_mercedes-5Fokiebenz.com=DwMFaQ=fpIeS8RwmHkY2r_dFRL5tQ=bWLZ-Rj1m7MhCstkQrL5NWSSU_DVYZAi80tDFdEWNn0=coEr3lpE611zT0SudLdVLmnoQP0OhwwA3TkBGRchbpA=71cTmM37CtTNwZK6IN6TwX54t5zSF5V7szNf7dM1-oI=> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Randy has some cars to sell? Don Snook From: Curt Raymond Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2019 4:23 PM To: Andrew Strasfogel ; Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Don Snook Subject: Re: [MBZ] [EXTERNAL] Re: 123 Diesel Plan of attack You need Randy to sell you his 300D. Actually I need to build a bigger garage and get him to sell me his 115... -Curt On Thursday, October 3, 2019, 5:14:41 PM EDT, Don Snook via Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote: That’s true. But, finding one for $5000 in actual decent condition might be almost impossible. I do wonder if I am going for that era, if I should just get a 114/115. They are not as elegant or collectible as the 108/109 but I have a special fondness for them because my first MB was a 1971 250/8 with the 2.8 six cylinder. It was red with white (ivory?) interior. I loved everything about that car except for the carbs. Once they were working it was great. But, before that it was rough. Donald H. Snook Senior Counsel, Litigation FedEx Freight 1715 Aaron Brenner Dr. Memphis, TN 38120-1442 (901) 434-3183 Office (901) 468-1760 Fax (901) 846-9285 donald.sn...@fedex.com<mailto:donald.sn...@fedex.com><mailto:donald.sn...@fedex.com<mailto:donald.sn...@fedex.com>> This message contains information that is confidential and proprietary to FedEx Freight or its affiliates. It is intended only for the recipient named and for the express purpose(s) described therein. Any other use is prohibited. From: Andrew Strasfogel mailto:astrasfo...@gmail.com>> Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2019 3:54 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> Cc: OK Don mailto:okd...@gmail.com>>; Don Snook mailto:donald.sn...@fedex.com>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [MBZ] 123 Diesel Plan of attack W108 OR 109 sedans are roomy enough and supremely classic in design, yet timeless.... On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 4:25 PM Don Snook via Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com><mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>> wrote: OK Don wrote: "Now remember, your initial criteria was for a classic looking MB - the W124 does not fit that. The W123 and W126 are marginal in my book as well, but much better (classic looks wise) than anything that followed them." That is a very good point and I do want to stick with 123 or older -- but I will say to most people the 124 probably would be considered a classic. It was certainly one of the very best cars that made such a great name for Mercedes in the USA. Yes, I know, the 123 really paved for the way for that. But, the 124 really represented the car that one the first Mercedes for a lot of people. It was no longer the car for a the pipe-smoking liberal college professors and the 126 (especially the 560) was more the Surgeons and Senior Partners at law firms. But, the 124 was the car built to appeal to more people here than ever before. Randy wrote: "Yeah! Dump that 123 for a quick profit and get Dan and Jaime to find you a finny or a ponton! Or go for broke and get something bigger. I think I recall that you are a big man. You need a BIG Mercedes. I was going to say a BLACK Mercedes, but maybe in Memphis, it would be better if it was a WHITE Mercedes just because of the heat." I am big -- although not as big as I used to be. Still 6'3" but about 50 lbs lighter than my max. The 126 definitely fits me better. In fact the 124 diesel that was mine then went to OK Don, then Kaleb, then Craig was a fantastic car, but it always seemed a little small to me which was why I sold it and got a 126. Don Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.okiebenz.com=DwMFaQ=fpIeS8RwmHkY2r_dFRL5tQ=bWLZ-Rj1m7MhCstkQrL5NWSSU_DVYZAi80tDFdEWNn0=psjHRR9ZRC9ToXP_GoBltLdpYPoV7PYLW9ZqTAwB11M=C_vLHXJHMKYhgfFaOmFsInppm1wEy1WM_QfIU6bFGDY=><https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.okiebenz.com=DwMFaQ=fpIeS8RwmHkY2r_dFRL5tQ=bWLZ-Rj1m7MhCstkQrL5NWSSU_DVYZAi80tDFdEWNn0=coEr3lpE611zT0SudLdVLmnoQP0OhwwA3TkBGRchbpA=JbWX3pIVjLeJnN4Z2GPavEWyuzk4FjlhNvym7fFbdrg=> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.okiebenz.com_archive_=DwMFaQ=fpIeS8RwmHkY2r_dFRL5tQ=bWLZ-Rj1m7MhCstkQrL5NWSSU_DVYZAi80tDFdEWNn0=psjHRR9ZRC9ToXP_GoBltLdpYPoV7PYLW9ZqTAwB11M=NwS_17Zwqm3cBxVL94280wmkOk_gaq54c6IfQcLDhKs=><https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.okiebenz.com_archive_=DwMFaQ=fpIeS8RwmHkY2r_dFRL5tQ=bWLZ-Rj1m7MhCstkQrL5NWSSU_DVYZAi80tDFdEWNn0=coEr3lpE611zT0SudLdVLmnoQP0OhwwA3TkBGRchbpA=UyCSINaEDhz4XaTng5xIJoMFYO6kF52niXe0uUotqpY=> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__mail.okiebenz.
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That’s true. But, finding one for $5000 in actual decent condition might be almost impossible. I do wonder if I am going for that era, if I should just get a 114/115. They are not as elegant or collectible as the 108/109 but I have a special fondness for them because my first MB was a 1971 250/8 with the 2.8 six cylinder. It was red with white (ivory?) interior. I loved everything about that car except for the carbs. Once they were working it was great. But, before that it was rough. Donald H. Snook Senior Counsel, Litigation FedEx Freight 1715 Aaron Brenner Dr. Memphis, TN 38120-1442 (901) 434-3183 Office (901) 468-1760 Fax (901) 846-9285 donald.sn...@fedex.com<mailto:donald.sn...@fedex.com> This message contains information that is confidential and proprietary to FedEx Freight or its affiliates. It is intended only for the recipient named and for the express purpose(s) described therein. Any other use is prohibited. From: Andrew Strasfogel Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2019 3:54 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: OK Don ; Don Snook Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [MBZ] 123 Diesel Plan of attack W108 OR 109 sedans are roomy enough and supremely classic in design, yet timeless On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 4:25 PM Don Snook via Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote: OK Don wrote: "Now remember, your initial criteria was for a classic looking MB - the W124 does not fit that. The W123 and W126 are marginal in my book as well, but much better (classic looks wise) than anything that followed them." That is a very good point and I do want to stick with 123 or older -- but I will say to most people the 124 probably would be considered a classic. It was certainly one of the very best cars that made such a great name for Mercedes in the USA. Yes, I know, the 123 really paved for the way for that. But, the 124 really represented the car that one the first Mercedes for a lot of people. It was no longer the car for a the pipe-smoking liberal college professors and the 126 (especially the 560) was more the Surgeons and Senior Partners at law firms. But, the 124 was the car built to appeal to more people here than ever before. Randy wrote: "Yeah! Dump that 123 for a quick profit and get Dan and Jaime to find you a finny or a ponton! Or go for broke and get something bigger. I think I recall that you are a big man. You need a BIG Mercedes. I was going to say a BLACK Mercedes, but maybe in Memphis, it would be better if it was a WHITE Mercedes just because of the heat." I am big -- although not as big as I used to be. Still 6'3" but about 50 lbs lighter than my max. The 126 definitely fits me better. In fact the 124 diesel that was mine then went to OK Don, then Kaleb, then Craig was a fantastic car, but it always seemed a little small to me which was why I sold it and got a 126. Don Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.okiebenz.com=DwMFaQ=fpIeS8RwmHkY2r_dFRL5tQ=bWLZ-Rj1m7MhCstkQrL5NWSSU_DVYZAi80tDFdEWNn0=coEr3lpE611zT0SudLdVLmnoQP0OhwwA3TkBGRchbpA=JbWX3pIVjLeJnN4Z2GPavEWyuzk4FjlhNvym7fFbdrg=> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.okiebenz.com_archive_=DwMFaQ=fpIeS8RwmHkY2r_dFRL5tQ=bWLZ-Rj1m7MhCstkQrL5NWSSU_DVYZAi80tDFdEWNn0=coEr3lpE611zT0SudLdVLmnoQP0OhwwA3TkBGRchbpA=UyCSINaEDhz4XaTng5xIJoMFYO6kF52niXe0uUotqpY=> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__mail.okiebenz.com_mailman_listinfo_mercedes-5Fokiebenz.com=DwMFaQ=fpIeS8RwmHkY2r_dFRL5tQ=bWLZ-Rj1m7MhCstkQrL5NWSSU_DVYZAi80tDFdEWNn0=coEr3lpE611zT0SudLdVLmnoQP0OhwwA3TkBGRchbpA=71cTmM37CtTNwZK6IN6TwX54t5zSF5V7szNf7dM1-oI=> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Ahh. Ok. Well, that is one of the parts under the hood that is all shiny and new. I know the general advice is ignore what the previous owner said. But, I am not sure at this point there is any reason he will lie to me. I have already bought the car. He said he replaced the glow plugs this spring and the nuts do look like new (or at least clean). He also said he had the valves adjusted. Don Snook -Original Message- From: David Bruckmann On Behalf Of David Bruckmann Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2019 3:47 PM To: Mercedes List Cc: Don Snook Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: [MBZ] 123 Diesel Plan of attack Turbo 617 engines all had EGR. I know this will cause a ruckus, but Kent gives an OK overview of the EGR valve and how to test it: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.youtube.com_watch-3Fv-3Dud60NZuma-2DA-26t-3D322s=DwIBAg=fpIeS8RwmHkY2r_dFRL5tQ=bWLZ-Rj1m7MhCstkQrL5NWSSU_DVYZAi80tDFdEWNn0=B6WJIrLaSnT9JVOKKUw24Euz62Z4fyUELB0bmK4zvUc=NANnWDj0YRKnL8aawjU4Kv5xo6bhVrB9IsJ-tvwXWdg= D. At 8:25 PM + 10/3/19, Don Snook wrote: >I don't think this has an EGR. Its an 82. > >Don Snook > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I don't think this has an EGR. Its an 82. Don Snook -Original Message- From: David Bruckmann On Behalf Of David Bruckmann Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2019 3:23 PM To: Mercedes List Cc: Don Snook Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [MBZ] 123 Diesel Plan of attack You were in the right neighbourhood! Just clean out that banjo bolt (you should be able to blow through it) and you're good to go. I think there's a washer or two that are at risk of disappearing, so watch out for that. A ball bearing in the vacuum line that goes to the EGR valve will prevent future clogging. On 10/3/19, Don Snook wrote: >Well maybe I am misunderstanding. > >Imagine standing in front of the car. On the left side is the air cleaner. >Near the back of the valve cover is a clear (ish) line that goes onto a >nipple. That line stretches over to the firewall on the other side and it goes >to a place where a bunch of other lines go. I disconnected it at the back of >the valve cover where it goes onto a small nipple . This is where the banjo >bolt is, right? I did not take off the bolt. I did take the line off the >nipple and the line was not clogged. But, my list does include taking off the >banjo bolt and cleaning it out. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 Diesel Plan of attack
OK Don wrote: "Now remember, your initial criteria was for a classic looking MB - the W124 does not fit that. The W123 and W126 are marginal in my book as well, but much better (classic looks wise) than anything that followed them." That is a very good point and I do want to stick with 123 or older -- but I will say to most people the 124 probably would be considered a classic. It was certainly one of the very best cars that made such a great name for Mercedes in the USA. Yes, I know, the 123 really paved for the way for that. But, the 124 really represented the car that one the first Mercedes for a lot of people. It was no longer the car for a the pipe-smoking liberal college professors and the 126 (especially the 560) was more the Surgeons and Senior Partners at law firms. But, the 124 was the car built to appeal to more people here than ever before. Randy wrote: "Yeah! Dump that 123 for a quick profit and get Dan and Jaime to find you a finny or a ponton! Or go for broke and get something bigger. I think I recall that you are a big man. You need a BIG Mercedes. I was going to say a BLACK Mercedes, but maybe in Memphis, it would be better if it was a WHITE Mercedes just because of the heat." I am big -- although not as big as I used to be. Still 6'3" but about 50 lbs lighter than my max. The 126 definitely fits me better. In fact the 124 diesel that was mine then went to OK Don, then Kaleb, then Craig was a fantastic car, but it always seemed a little small to me which was why I sold it and got a 126. Don Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Thanks. I think it is definitely worth what I paid. If the question is whether I would have paid $3,000 for one that had working a/c and great paint and was cleaner with working odometer and gauges, then I would have opted for the better one. If I can’t find a shop here in Memphis that works on these old diesels, I may have to figure out whether I have the time (and patience) to work on it. I’m still a little surprised that two different shops that advertise as a Mercedes repair shop, will not work on these old diesels.I didn’t specifically ask them. But, I did ask my former BMW Mechanic where to go and he told me don’t go to these other two places because they refuse to work on old diesels. Donald H. Snook Senior Counsel, Litigation FedEx Freight 1715 Aaron Brenner Dr. Memphis, TN 38120-1442 (901) 434-3183 Office (901) 468-1760 Fax (901) 846-9285 donald.sn...@fedex.com<mailto:donald.sn...@fedex.com> This message contains information that is confidential and proprietary to FedEx Freight or its affiliates. It is intended only for the recipient named and for the express purpose(s) described therein. Any other use is prohibited. From: Curt Raymond Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2019 2:33 PM To: Andrew Strasfogel ; Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Don Snook Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [MBZ] 123 Diesel Plan of attack It sounds to be like you've gotten a very good deal for $1000. I can hardly buy a car that runs and drives for $2,000 anymore. $1500 cars used to be my stock in trade but these days those cars are just junk. If its reasonably rust free your car is worth $2,000 here easy. The problems you've reported are all relatively minor. Fix the most important ones (oil pressure gauge) and then pick away at the little ones while you enjoy the car. -Curt On Thursday, October 3, 2019, 3:29:39 PM EDT, Don Snook via Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote: You have never had the tach or oil pressure gauge quit? Or any problems with the a/c? My old 123 diesel with over 450K had the ignition deal where I had to turn it back just a tad to get the a/c to work. The tach on it also was funky. I have heard of tons of 123 where the odometer quits working -- although it has not happened to me until now.I have never had an oil pressure gauge fail (or at least not work).I think the issues I am tackling are fairly common. BUT, I take your point. I have no illusions about this car. I only paid $1000 for it. I know it has not been babied. I don't regret buying it considering the price. Of course, I did see a craigslist for a 124 diesel. It is a 1992 with only 122,000 miles and it looks SPECTACULAR and I want it. But, it is also $7,000. I know if this current 123 turns into too much of a headache, I have several buyers ready to come get it for $1000. Donald H. Snook -Original Message- From: Andrew Strasfogel mailto:astrasfo...@gmail.com>> Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2019 1:58 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 Diesel Plan of attack Good work, Don, although to be honest in all my years of owning 300 diesels I haven't encountered any of the issues you report. I think you may have picked up a car that has been at best neglected or - worse - butchered. On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 2:39 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote: > Actually the ones on my CD work. I need a Marlboro butt to fix my tach > amp, Dwight E. Giles Jr. > Wickford RI > > > On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 12:03 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote: > > > The plastic gears are also wicked easy to fix. A little dab of > > super > glue > > on the shaft for the tenths wheel has restored 2 of them for me. > > IIRC I've promised to fix Dwight's, probably promised more than > > once, I ought to actually do that. > > -Curt > > > >On Thursday, October 3, 2019, 10:52:43 AM EDT, OK Don via > > Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote: > > > > Looks like a good plan, though I think I'd swap 6 and 7 - the > > vacuum system also controls parts of the ACC system - it will be > > easier to determine > what > > fixes what if the vents flaps are working. > > Regarding #11 - a different cluster doesn't mean that it's odometer > > is working either - the plastic gears slipping or breaking is a > > common > issue. > > Probably more effective to just fix yours. (The odometer died in the > > 300D 2.5T about 30 miles south of Wichita when I bought it from you). > > > > On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 8:28 PM Don Snook via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> > >
Re: [MBZ] [EXTERNAL] Re: 123 Diesel Plan of attack
Well maybe I am misunderstanding. Imagine standing in front of the car. On the left side is the air cleaner. Near the back of the valve cover is a clear (ish) line that goes onto a nipple. That line stretches over to the firewall on the other side and it goes to a place where a bunch of other lines go. I disconnected it at the back of the valve cover where it goes onto a small nipple . This is where the banjo bolt is, right? I did not take off the bolt. I did take the line off the nipple and the line was not clogged. But, my list does include taking off the banjo bolt and cleaning it out. Donald H. Snook -Original Message- From: David Bruckmann On Behalf Of David Bruckmann Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2019 2:40 PM To: Mercedes List Cc: Don Snook Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [MBZ] 123 Diesel Plan of attack The boost line often plugs up at the fitting on the back of the intake manifold. There's a banjo bolt there which you should remove, clean, etc. If it plugs there, the rest of the line will look relatively clean (because it is!). You definitely need to disconnect it to clean it. D. On Wed, Oct 2, 2019, Don Snook wrote: > >> 3. Check boost line from back of intake.? I did this. It looked >> pretty good. although I could not blow it out because I couldn?t >> figure out how to release the connector where it went to the firewall >> with a bunch of other stuff. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 Diesel Plan of attack
You have never had the tach or oil pressure gauge quit? Or any problems with the a/c? My old 123 diesel with over 450K had the ignition deal where I had to turn it back just a tad to get the a/c to work. The tach on it also was funky. I have heard of tons of 123 where the odometer quits working -- although it has not happened to me until now.I have never had an oil pressure gauge fail (or at least not work).I think the issues I am tackling are fairly common. BUT, I take your point. I have no illusions about this car. I only paid $1000 for it. I know it has not been babied. I don't regret buying it considering the price. Of course, I did see a craigslist for a 124 diesel. It is a 1992 with only 122,000 miles and it looks SPECTACULAR and I want it. But, it is also $7,000. I know if this current 123 turns into too much of a headache, I have several buyers ready to come get it for $1000. Donald H. Snook -Original Message- From: Andrew Strasfogel Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2019 1:58 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 Diesel Plan of attack Good work, Don, although to be honest in all my years of owning 300 diesels I haven't encountered any of the issues you report. I think you may have picked up a car that has been at best neglected or - worse - butchered. On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 2:39 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Actually the ones on my CD work. I need a Marlboro butt to fix my tach > amp, Dwight E. Giles Jr. > Wickford RI > > > On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 12:03 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > The plastic gears are also wicked easy to fix. A little dab of > > super > glue > > on the shaft for the tenths wheel has restored 2 of them for me. > > IIRC I've promised to fix Dwight's, probably promised more than > > once, I ought to actually do that. > > -Curt > > > > On Thursday, October 3, 2019, 10:52:43 AM EDT, OK Don via > > Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > Looks like a good plan, though I think I'd swap 6 and 7 - the > > vacuum system also controls parts of the ACC system - it will be > > easier to determine > what > > fixes what if the vents flaps are working. > > Regarding #11 - a different cluster doesn't mean that it's odometer > > is working either - the plastic gears slipping or breaking is a > > common > issue. > > Probably more effective to just fix yours. (The odometer died in the > > 300D 2.5T about 30 miles south of Wichita when I bought it from you). > > > > On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 8:28 PM Don Snook via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > wrote: > > > > > A few days ago Dan replied to one of my questions about this new > > > to me > > > 1982 300D. He suggested that I step back, take a breath and try > > > to be > a > > > little more methodical with the issues (my wording). I think this > > > was great advice. I know when I have some big project at work, I > > > don't let > > it > > > overwhelm me because I take it one small step at a time. In fact, > > > I > have > > > always believed that was one of my gifts or skills. But, > > > apparently, I forgot about this method while I was caught up in > > > the excitement of my > > car > > > project. So, I have come up with a tentative plan. A few things > > > have > > been > > > done (sort of) and a few are in progress and a few won't happen > > > until > > later > > > (or not at all). I'm open to advice or suggestions. > > > > > > Here is my plan so far: > > > > > > 1. Fix exhaust because it is hanging down and I need to fix it to > > > be drivable. (done — sort of. I replaced the donuts so it’s not > > > hanging > > down) > > > > > > 2. Check for blow by with the loose oil cap test. Doing it tonight. > > > > > > 3. Check boost line from back of intake. I did this. It looked > > > pretty good. although I could not blow it out because I couldn’t > > > figure out > how > > to > > > release the connector where it went to the firewall with a bunch > > > of > other > > > stuff. > > > > > > 4. Do a diesel purge — this is the easiest step and whether it > addresses > > > anything, it is certainly a beneficial preventative maintenance step. > > > Replace fuel filters after purge. Although the primary looks clean > > > but > I > > > know that can be deceiving. > >
Re: [MBZ] [EXTERNAL] Re: 123 Diesel Plan of attack
Yes. I made it back the same day I flew to Dallas. Donald H. Snook FedEx Freight Sent from my iPhone On Oct 2, 2019, at 8:34 PM, Dwight Giles mailto:dwight.gi...@gmail.com>> wrote: So did you make it back to Memphis? Dwight Giles Jr. 1982 300CD 2005 E320 4matic Wickford RI On Wed, Oct 2, 2019, 9:28 PM Don Snook via Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote: A few days ago Dan replied to one of my questions about this new to me 1982 300D. He suggested that I step back, take a breath and try to be a little more methodical with the issues (my wording). I think this was great advice. I know when I have some big project at work, I don't let it overwhelm me because I take it one small step at a time. In fact, I have always believed that was one of my gifts or skills. But, apparently, I forgot about this method while I was caught up in the excitement of my car project. So, I have come up with a tentative plan. A few things have been done (sort of) and a few are in progress and a few won't happen until later (or not at all). I'm open to advice or suggestions. Here is my plan so far: 1. Fix exhaust because it is hanging down and I need to fix it to be drivable. (done — sort of. I replaced the donuts so it’s not hanging down) 2. Check for blow by with the loose oil cap test. Doing it tonight. 3. Check boost line from back of intake. I did this. It looked pretty good. although I could not blow it out because I couldn’t figure out how to release the connector where it went to the firewall with a bunch of other stuff. 4. Do a diesel purge — this is the easiest step and whether it addresses anything, it is certainly a beneficial preventative maintenance step. Replace fuel filters after purge. Although the primary looks clean but I know that can be deceiving. 5. Oil and Filter change 6. Because the a/c, vent, defrost doesn’t work at all, I think the problem is in the CCU unit. Probably just needs resoldered. (I have checked and replaced the blower motor fuse). So, I will either get a rebuilt version or try to solder it myself. 7. Address vacuum line issues because it could be effecting a bunch of systems. I don’t know if I will have the time (or patience) to do this myself or if I will have a shop do it. 8. Check glow plugs. Isn’t this just a matter of checking the resistance? The nuts look like the cleanest thing under the hood which makes me think they are fairly new. But, no way to know for sure. 9. Coolant flush (it has new radiator) with Zerex 10. Check tach amp as suggested and fix with paper because I quit smoking! 11. Possibly replace cluster with newer version? But, one of the reasons to do this is because oil pressure gauge is not working and the cluster might not be problem. Replacing cluster would address broken odometer issue. 12. At this point stop and evaluate if I want to keep going or decide to sell it. I have had others in the 123 Facebook group offer to buy it. They were the ones that missed out when I bought it. 13. Only if I decide to keep going will I address things like carpet, door pockets, rebuilding seats (they are not bad, they are not very supportive anymore), replacing wood veneers in the console a/C panel, replacing crappy Kenwood aftermarket radio, etc. I think we all know the list of things that COULD be done is almost endless. Donald H. Snook 1982 Mercedes 300D (200K+ miles) 2017 Toyota 4Runner (35K miles) 2006 Cadillac SRX (Her car -- I hate it) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.okiebenz.com=DwMFaQ=fpIeS8RwmHkY2r_dFRL5tQ=bWLZ-Rj1m7MhCstkQrL5NWSSU_DVYZAi80tDFdEWNn0=dU6pAye18ibCC4KlEZi0GvEEx8Xgeu835Hkzdbh0iDU=vhuyguyBMKyc3q5XuCpB5rm_Vd4rsUAd9sYf5-HsDdE=> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.okiebenz.com_archive_=DwMFaQ=fpIeS8RwmHkY2r_dFRL5tQ=bWLZ-Rj1m7MhCstkQrL5NWSSU_DVYZAi80tDFdEWNn0=dU6pAye18ibCC4KlEZi0GvEEx8Xgeu835Hkzdbh0iDU=MFeBhW9rCfHXgS5ySx2OuyRoQDyBucdp1-zS-q-70SM=> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__mail.okiebenz.com_mailman_listinfo_mercedes-5Fokiebenz.com=DwMFaQ=fpIeS8RwmHkY2r_dFRL5tQ=bWLZ-Rj1m7MhCstkQrL5NWSSU_DVYZAi80tDFdEWNn0=dU6pAye18ibCC4KlEZi0GvEEx8Xgeu835Hkzdbh0iDU=LJoIK935oDKqx0tDSRHcWc0FEukFDDBcVCIUAp5c0FA=> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 123 Diesel Plan of attack
A few days ago Dan replied to one of my questions about this new to me 1982 300D. He suggested that I step back, take a breath and try to be a little more methodical with the issues (my wording). I think this was great advice. I know when I have some big project at work, I don't let it overwhelm me because I take it one small step at a time. In fact, I have always believed that was one of my gifts or skills. But, apparently, I forgot about this method while I was caught up in the excitement of my car project. So, I have come up with a tentative plan. A few things have been done (sort of) and a few are in progress and a few won't happen until later (or not at all). I'm open to advice or suggestions. Here is my plan so far: 1. Fix exhaust because it is hanging down and I need to fix it to be drivable. (done — sort of. I replaced the donuts so it’s not hanging down) 2. Check for blow by with the loose oil cap test. Doing it tonight. 3. Check boost line from back of intake. I did this. It looked pretty good. although I could not blow it out because I couldn’t figure out how to release the connector where it went to the firewall with a bunch of other stuff. 4. Do a diesel purge — this is the easiest step and whether it addresses anything, it is certainly a beneficial preventative maintenance step. Replace fuel filters after purge. Although the primary looks clean but I know that can be deceiving. 5. Oil and Filter change 6. Because the a/c, vent, defrost doesn’t work at all, I think the problem is in the CCU unit. Probably just needs resoldered. (I have checked and replaced the blower motor fuse). So, I will either get a rebuilt version or try to solder it myself. 7. Address vacuum line issues because it could be effecting a bunch of systems. I don’t know if I will have the time (or patience) to do this myself or if I will have a shop do it. 8. Check glow plugs. Isn’t this just a matter of checking the resistance? The nuts look like the cleanest thing under the hood which makes me think they are fairly new. But, no way to know for sure. 9. Coolant flush (it has new radiator) with Zerex 10. Check tach amp as suggested and fix with paper because I quit smoking! 11. Possibly replace cluster with newer version? But, one of the reasons to do this is because oil pressure gauge is not working and the cluster might not be problem. Replacing cluster would address broken odometer issue. 12. At this point stop and evaluate if I want to keep going or decide to sell it. I have had others in the 123 Facebook group offer to buy it. They were the ones that missed out when I bought it. 13. Only if I decide to keep going will I address things like carpet, door pockets, rebuilding seats (they are not bad, they are not very supportive anymore), replacing wood veneers in the console a/C panel, replacing crappy Kenwood aftermarket radio, etc. I think we all know the list of things that COULD be done is almost endless. Donald H. Snook 1982 Mercedes 300D (200K+ miles) 2017 Toyota 4Runner (35K miles) 2006 Cadillac SRX (Her car -- I hate it) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
