Re: [MBZ] Total my car

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

I filed two complaints with the commissioner.  The most recent had transcripts 
of our email conversations.  That was about two weeks ago.  I have had no 
contact with the original adjuster since.  The most recent clown at Amica 
called me Tuesday before lunch to “discuss” the commissioner’s complaint.   I 
derailed him by asking if he intended to settle as his superior had arranged 
with SWMBA a week ago.  He laid out the plans as he understood, then wanted me 
to respond right then.  I asked him if the incso had actually paid the body 
shop’s initial bill.He lied, and said they had.  I called the shop and they 
said not.  

I may find out how the commissioner’s complaint had any impact, once the boys 
at Amica have the full payments on the desk, my title clean, and stop 
prevaricating.

clay




> On Oct 19, 2017, at 3:25 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 19 Oct 2017 14:59:48 -0700 clay monroe via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> Well, I am sort of back in the saddle.
>> 
>> I picked up Allen this morning.  The shop finished it last night.  She
>> drives as well as I remember.
>> 
>> NOW, to get the SOB insurance people to do their job.
> 
> When did you contact the Insurance Commissioner?
> 
> We are all interested in what he said.
> 
> The "insurance adjuster" was involved in criminal activity ...
> 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Total my car

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 19 Oct 2017 14:59:48 -0700 clay monroe via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Well, I am sort of back in the saddle.
> 
> I picked up Allen this morning.  The shop finished it last night.  She
> drives as well as I remember.
> 
> NOW, to get the SOB insurance people to do their job.

When did you contact the Insurance Commissioner?

We are all interested in what he said.

The "insurance adjuster" was involved in criminal activity ...


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Total my car

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Ok, so progress is good.  Keep pressing!
-- 
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Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On October 19, 2017 5:59:48 PM EDT, clay monroe via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Well, I am sort of back in the saddle.
>
>I picked up Allen this morning.  The shop finished it last night.  She
>drives as well as I remember.
>
>NOW, to get the SOB insurance people to do their job.
>
>I paid to ransom my car before the adjuster could get his tow truck
>over and steal the car from the shop to send to the CoParts yard. 
>Insco was supposed to pay the storage fees, but never did.  When asked
>this week, they claimed they had, twice.   When I asked the body shop
>last week and this, as well as when I paid to pick up the car, turns
>out it never had been paid.
>
>I was supposed to sign a settlement at lunch, but there were just too
>many balls dropped.  I am holding out for them to get the proper
>payments made, and have proof that the title has been cleared, that it
>never shows as salvage.  When the stars align, then I can sign.
>
>
>
>clay 
>
>1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
>1986 SDL - Polei
>1982 300 SD - Allen
>
>retired models-
>2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
>1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
>1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
>1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
>POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> On Sep 30, 2017, at 11:08 PM, G Mann via Mercedes
> wrote:
>> 
>> Jails are full of people who made "bad choices". My take on his
>actions
>> is, regardless of how it is phrased, his action constitutes "Mens
>Rae"
>> which is a legal term for "Thought followed by Act" and is the
>qualifier
>> for having done a criminal act.
>> 
>> With all respect and regard for SHMBO wearing the legal hat... I
>suggest
>> you would be best served to engage local counsel and push legal
>resolution.
>> 
>> To my knowledge, there is no specific requirement to settle vehicle
>damage
>> quickly. So I brush off that his "desire to settle quickly" was a
>factor.
>> 
>> On Sat, Sep 30, 2017 at 10:56 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> SWMBA is sort of looped in.  Overly busy with all the oil and gas
>work,
>>> now that Turnip has let loose the hounds of bidness, and smote the
>>> enviro-wienies.
>>> 
>>> I did make mention regarding the question if Amica trained him to be
>a
>>> putz, or is he just a congenital neo-max zoom-dweebie.
>>> 
>>> On more contemplation, I suspect he made a conscious choice to speed
>along
>>> a resolution because it took so long for me to locate a shop willing
>to
>>> even look at the car.  Most of the shops I took it to, just stared
>at it
>>> and passed.  No desire to work with single stage, no ability to
>match the
>>> paint with the stuff they spray, not enough payout based on the
>estimators
>>> initial review.
>>> 
>>> clay
>>> 
 On Sep 30, 2017, at 4:48 PM, G Mann via Mercedes
>
>>> wrote:
 
 A... Contraire` mon ami
 
 To work at the insurance company, which has to possess a license
>from the
 State, the individual working for that company has to also either
>be
 licensed, or meet some state requirements to work the business
>In
>>> every
 state I have experience in dealing with..
 
 Thus... the Company is legally culpable for the actions of it's
>employees
 to follow the law failure to do so.. either by deliberate
>intent, or
>>> by
 negligence... qualifies as having done harm to our esteemed fellow
 member... ie "individually harmed".
 
 If it is found in the discovery phase of trial preparation, such
>actions
 are "regular and common" and the Company not only allows it, but
>>> practices
 such in due course, even more powerful... for the plaintiff...
 
 I have contact with an attorney here who, for the past 40 years has
>only
 taken insurance malpractice cases... He has not lost a case in 38
>>> years
 I'm sure there is another like him in the subject state
 
 On Sat, Sep 30, 2017 at 2:41 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
> 
>> On September 30, 2017 at 3:06 PM G Mann via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> About now.. I would be dialing a lawyer... were it me.
> 
> She's in Alaska, but I'm pretty sure Clay has been telling her all
>about
> it.
> Agree with you that messing with titled property that belongs to
>neither
> him nor his employer is clearly illegal, I just no longer think it
>done
>>> was
> with malicious intent. Never be too hasty to ascribe malicious
>intent
>>> when
> sheer stupidity is a plausible explanation.
> Mitch.
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Total my car

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

Well, I am sort of back in the saddle.

I picked up Allen this morning.  The shop finished it last night.  She drives 
as well as I remember.

NOW, to get the SOB insurance people to do their job.

I paid to ransom my car before the adjuster could get his tow truck over and 
steal the car from the shop to send to the CoParts yard.  Insco was supposed to 
pay the storage fees, but never did.  When asked this week, they claimed they 
had, twice.   When I asked the body shop last week and this, as well as when I 
paid to pick up the car, turns out it never had been paid.

I was supposed to sign a settlement at lunch, but there were just too many 
balls dropped.  I am holding out for them to get the proper payments made, and 
have proof that the title has been cleared, that it never shows as salvage.  
When the stars align, then I can sign.



clay 

1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

retired models-
2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers







> On Sep 30, 2017, at 11:08 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Jails are full of people who made "bad choices". My take on his actions
> is, regardless of how it is phrased, his action constitutes "Mens Rae"
> which is a legal term for "Thought followed by Act" and is the qualifier
> for having done a criminal act.
> 
> With all respect and regard for SHMBO wearing the legal hat... I suggest
> you would be best served to engage local counsel and push legal resolution.
> 
> To my knowledge, there is no specific requirement to settle vehicle damage
> quickly. So I brush off that his "desire to settle quickly" was a factor.
> 
> On Sat, Sep 30, 2017 at 10:56 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> SWMBA is sort of looped in.  Overly busy with all the oil and gas work,
>> now that Turnip has let loose the hounds of bidness, and smote the
>> enviro-wienies.
>> 
>> I did make mention regarding the question if Amica trained him to be a
>> putz, or is he just a congenital neo-max zoom-dweebie.
>> 
>> On more contemplation, I suspect he made a conscious choice to speed along
>> a resolution because it took so long for me to locate a shop willing to
>> even look at the car.  Most of the shops I took it to, just stared at it
>> and passed.  No desire to work with single stage, no ability to match the
>> paint with the stuff they spray, not enough payout based on the estimators
>> initial review.
>> 
>> clay
>> 
>>> On Sep 30, 2017, at 4:48 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> A... Contraire` mon ami
>>> 
>>> To work at the insurance company, which has to possess a license from the
>>> State, the individual working for that company has to also either be
>>> licensed, or meet some state requirements to work the business In
>> every
>>> state I have experience in dealing with..
>>> 
>>> Thus... the Company is legally culpable for the actions of it's employees
>>> to follow the law failure to do so.. either by deliberate intent, or
>> by
>>> negligence... qualifies as having done harm to our esteemed fellow
>>> member... ie "individually harmed".
>>> 
>>> If it is found in the discovery phase of trial preparation, such actions
>>> are "regular and common" and the Company not only allows it, but
>> practices
>>> such in due course, even more powerful... for the plaintiff...
>>> 
>>> I have contact with an attorney here who, for the past 40 years has only
>>> taken insurance malpractice cases... He has not lost a case in 38
>> years
>>> I'm sure there is another like him in the subject state
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Sep 30, 2017 at 2:41 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 
> On September 30, 2017 at 3:06 PM G Mann via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
> About now.. I would be dialing a lawyer... were it me.
 
 She's in Alaska, but I'm pretty sure Clay has been telling her all about
 it.
 Agree with you that messing with titled property that belongs to neither
 him nor his employer is clearly illegal, I just no longer think it done
>> was
 with malicious intent. Never be too hasty to ascribe malicious intent
>> when
 sheer stupidity is a plausible explanation.
 Mitch.
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Total my car

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 30 Sep 2017 22:39:46 -0700 clay monroe via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I am just a few heartbeats away from letting their client know I am
> going to file suit against her for pain and suffering, as well as
> emotional distress induced by the adjuster.  With the headbonk, I am
> just not as robust as I was before this incident.  I am sure there will
> be a few months of therapy required to return my to a more stable
> mental balance.

As you have been told several times, you need to get an attorney working
for YOU. If you are incapable of functioning, the attorney will be
capable and will see this situation through to its conclusion.

Get a local attorney!


Craig



> > On Sep 30, 2017, at 7:41 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >> On September 29, 2017 at 9:48 PM clay monroe via Mercedes
> >>  wrote:
> >> 
> >> 
> >> they did the dirty deed on his say so with no paperwork.  He tried
> >> to steal the car from the body shop and send it to Coparts.  It
> >> seems this sort of thing happens a bunch, as there is a special
> >> section of DOL dedicated to dealing with this.  I put in a call, but
> >> they are really busy overturning adjusters who crap on people
> > 
> > The more I think about it, the more I think it's just business as
> > usual, proceeding blithely along and gittin 'er done as quickly as
> > possible.  
> > 
> > The fact that it's not his/her car and they have no right to dispose
> > of it unless they purchase it, and only after they have actually
> > completed the purchase just never entered into their tiny brain. 
> > 
> > You don't have a contract with them that gives them the right to
> > purchase your car. If you don't want to sell them the car, it's just
> > a matter of arguing with them over the size of the check they'll have
> > to give you to make you shut up and not sue their client. Mitch.
> > 
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Re: [MBZ] Total my car

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

SWMBA is not interested in being that involved.  I want initial scare the crap 
out of him letter sent, and then have assistance with finding a well regarded 
local hack to earn his 33% of the settlement.


clay

> On Sep 30, 2017, at 11:08 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Jails are full of people who made "bad choices". My take on his actions
> is, regardless of how it is phrased, his action constitutes "Mens Rae"
> which is a legal term for "Thought followed by Act" and is the qualifier
> for having done a criminal act.
> 
> With all respect and regard for SHMBO wearing the legal hat... I suggest
> you would be best served to engage local counsel and push legal resolution.
> 
> To my knowledge, there is no specific requirement to settle vehicle damage
> quickly. So I brush off that his "desire to settle quickly" was a factor.
> 
> On Sat, Sep 30, 2017 at 10:56 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> SWMBA is sort of looped in.  Overly busy with all the oil and gas work,
>> now that Turnip has let loose the hounds of bidness, and smote the
>> enviro-wienies.
>> 
>> I did make mention regarding the question if Amica trained him to be a
>> putz, or is he just a congenital neo-max zoom-dweebie.
>> 
>> On more contemplation, I suspect he made a conscious choice to speed along
>> a resolution because it took so long for me to locate a shop willing to
>> even look at the car.  Most of the shops I took it to, just stared at it
>> and passed.  No desire to work with single stage, no ability to match the
>> paint with the stuff they spray, not enough payout based on the estimators
>> initial review.
>> 
>> clay
>> 
>>> On Sep 30, 2017, at 4:48 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> A... Contraire` mon ami
>>> 
>>> To work at the insurance company, which has to possess a license from the
>>> State, the individual working for that company has to also either be
>>> licensed, or meet some state requirements to work the business In
>> every
>>> state I have experience in dealing with..
>>> 
>>> Thus... the Company is legally culpable for the actions of it's employees
>>> to follow the law failure to do so.. either by deliberate intent, or
>> by
>>> negligence... qualifies as having done harm to our esteemed fellow
>>> member... ie "individually harmed".
>>> 
>>> If it is found in the discovery phase of trial preparation, such actions
>>> are "regular and common" and the Company not only allows it, but
>> practices
>>> such in due course, even more powerful... for the plaintiff...
>>> 
>>> I have contact with an attorney here who, for the past 40 years has only
>>> taken insurance malpractice cases... He has not lost a case in 38
>> years
>>> I'm sure there is another like him in the subject state
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Sep 30, 2017 at 2:41 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 
> On September 30, 2017 at 3:06 PM G Mann via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
> About now.. I would be dialing a lawyer... were it me.
 
 She's in Alaska, but I'm pretty sure Clay has been telling her all about
 it.
 Agree with you that messing with titled property that belongs to neither
 him nor his employer is clearly illegal, I just no longer think it done
>> was
 with malicious intent. Never be too hasty to ascribe malicious intent
>> when
 sheer stupidity is a plausible explanation.
 Mitch.
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Total my car

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Jails are full of people who made "bad choices". My take on his actions
is, regardless of how it is phrased, his action constitutes "Mens Rae"
which is a legal term for "Thought followed by Act" and is the qualifier
for having done a criminal act.

With all respect and regard for SHMBO wearing the legal hat... I suggest
you would be best served to engage local counsel and push legal resolution.

To my knowledge, there is no specific requirement to settle vehicle damage
quickly. So I brush off that his "desire to settle quickly" was a factor.

On Sat, Sep 30, 2017 at 10:56 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> SWMBA is sort of looped in.  Overly busy with all the oil and gas work,
> now that Turnip has let loose the hounds of bidness, and smote the
> enviro-wienies.
>
> I did make mention regarding the question if Amica trained him to be a
> putz, or is he just a congenital neo-max zoom-dweebie.
>
> On more contemplation, I suspect he made a conscious choice to speed along
> a resolution because it took so long for me to locate a shop willing to
> even look at the car.  Most of the shops I took it to, just stared at it
> and passed.  No desire to work with single stage, no ability to match the
> paint with the stuff they spray, not enough payout based on the estimators
> initial review.
>
> clay
>
> > On Sep 30, 2017, at 4:48 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > A... Contraire` mon ami
> >
> > To work at the insurance company, which has to possess a license from the
> > State, the individual working for that company has to also either be
> > licensed, or meet some state requirements to work the business In
> every
> > state I have experience in dealing with..
> >
> > Thus... the Company is legally culpable for the actions of it's employees
> > to follow the law failure to do so.. either by deliberate intent, or
> by
> > negligence... qualifies as having done harm to our esteemed fellow
> > member... ie "individually harmed".
> >
> > If it is found in the discovery phase of trial preparation, such actions
> > are "regular and common" and the Company not only allows it, but
> practices
> > such in due course, even more powerful... for the plaintiff...
> >
> > I have contact with an attorney here who, for the past 40 years has only
> > taken insurance malpractice cases... He has not lost a case in 38
> years
> > I'm sure there is another like him in the subject state
> >
> > On Sat, Sep 30, 2017 at 2:41 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>> On September 30, 2017 at 3:06 PM G Mann via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> About now.. I would be dialing a lawyer... were it me.
> >>
> >> She's in Alaska, but I'm pretty sure Clay has been telling her all about
> >> it.
> >> Agree with you that messing with titled property that belongs to neither
> >> him nor his employer is clearly illegal, I just no longer think it done
> was
> >> with malicious intent. Never be too hasty to ascribe malicious intent
> when
> >> sheer stupidity is a plausible explanation.
> >> Mitch.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Total my car

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

SWMBA is sort of looped in.  Overly busy with all the oil and gas work, now 
that Turnip has let loose the hounds of bidness, and smote the enviro-wienies.

I did make mention regarding the question if Amica trained him to be a putz, or 
is he just a congenital neo-max zoom-dweebie.  

On more contemplation, I suspect he made a conscious choice to speed along a 
resolution because it took so long for me to locate a shop willing to even look 
at the car.  Most of the shops I took it to, just stared at it and passed.  No 
desire to work with single stage, no ability to match the paint with the stuff 
they spray, not enough payout based on the estimators initial review.

clay

> On Sep 30, 2017, at 4:48 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> A... Contraire` mon ami
> 
> To work at the insurance company, which has to possess a license from the
> State, the individual working for that company has to also either be
> licensed, or meet some state requirements to work the business In every
> state I have experience in dealing with..
> 
> Thus... the Company is legally culpable for the actions of it's employees
> to follow the law failure to do so.. either by deliberate intent, or by
> negligence... qualifies as having done harm to our esteemed fellow
> member... ie "individually harmed".
> 
> If it is found in the discovery phase of trial preparation, such actions
> are "regular and common" and the Company not only allows it, but practices
> such in due course, even more powerful... for the plaintiff...
> 
> I have contact with an attorney here who, for the past 40 years has only
> taken insurance malpractice cases... He has not lost a case in 38 years
> I'm sure there is another like him in the subject state
> 
> On Sat, Sep 30, 2017 at 2:41 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>>> On September 30, 2017 at 3:06 PM G Mann via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> About now.. I would be dialing a lawyer... were it me.
>> 
>> She's in Alaska, but I'm pretty sure Clay has been telling her all about
>> it.
>> Agree with you that messing with titled property that belongs to neither
>> him nor his employer is clearly illegal, I just no longer think it done was
>> with malicious intent. Never be too hasty to ascribe malicious intent when
>> sheer stupidity is a plausible explanation.
>> Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] Total my car

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

I am just a few heartbeats away from letting their client know I am going to 
file suit against her for pain and suffering, as well as emotional distress 
induced by the adjuster.  With the headbonk, I am just not as robust as I was 
before this incident.  I am sure there will be a few months of therapy required 
to return my to a more stable mental balance.

clay

> On Sep 30, 2017, at 7:41 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On September 29, 2017 at 9:48 PM clay monroe via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> they did the dirty deed on his say so with no paperwork.  He tried to steal 
>> the car from the body shop and send it to Coparts.  It seems this sort of 
>> thing happens a bunch, as there is a special section of DOL dedicated to 
>> dealing with this.  I put in a call, but they are really busy overturning 
>> adjusters who crap on people
> 
> The more I think about it, the more I think it's just business as usual, 
> proceeding blithely along and gittin 'er done as quickly as possible.  
> 
> The fact that it's not his/her car and they have no right to dispose of it 
> unless they purchase it, and only after they have actually completed the 
> purchase just never entered into their tiny brain. 
> 
> You don't have a contract with them that gives them the right to purchase 
> your car. If you don't want to sell them the car, it's just a matter of 
> arguing with them over the size of the check they'll have to give you to make 
> you shut up and not sue their client. 
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Re: [MBZ] Total my car

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

The thing is exceptionally clean, just suffering the normal wear issues with 
plastics and electric lines.  The things do not sell much, ANYWHERE.  The black 
on tan is a step above standard black on black.  The cluster is freshly 
rebuilt, so should not fail again for a few years.  


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> On Sep 30, 2017, at 4:10 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> You’re being generous, unless the car is really clean.
> 
> Being sensitive to your plight after having to deal with the disposal of my 
> former 2003 S420, I’d say your numbers are a little high.  These things are 
> like cockroaches around here and they just don’t sell.  I’m not sure whether 
> it’s the reputation they have for being a PITA to maintain or their lack of 
> style/design that makes them look like every other car on the road.
> 
> During my recent search for a W210 I saw these littering CL in my area.  
> Almost as bad as the C class stuff.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 29, 2017, at 10:43 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> IF the airmatic were functional, probably around $4-4.5k
>> 
>> Deduct $1k for having to deal with airmatic.  Replacement air springs can be 
>> had for less than $300 a pair.  FoolTube videos from Arnott show the job 
>> taking about 75 minutes for both sides.
>> 
>> clay
>> 
>>> On Sep 29, 2017, at 7:18 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Not even sure what those are worth.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone 
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Re: [MBZ] Total my car

[G Mann via Mercedes]

A... Contraire` mon ami

To work at the insurance company, which has to possess a license from the
State, the individual working for that company has to also either be
licensed, or meet some state requirements to work the business In every
state I have experience in dealing with..

Thus... the Company is legally culpable for the actions of it's employees
to follow the law failure to do so.. either by deliberate intent, or by
negligence... qualifies as having done harm to our esteemed fellow
member... ie "individually harmed".

If it is found in the discovery phase of trial preparation, such actions
are "regular and common" and the Company not only allows it, but practices
such in due course, even more powerful... for the plaintiff...

I have contact with an attorney here who, for the past 40 years has only
taken insurance malpractice cases... He has not lost a case in 38 years
I'm sure there is another like him in the subject state

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> > On September 30, 2017 at 3:06 PM G Mann via Mercedes <
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>
> > About now.. I would be dialing a lawyer... were it me.
>
> She's in Alaska, but I'm pretty sure Clay has been telling her all about
> it.
> Agree with you that messing with titled property that belongs to neither
> him nor his employer is clearly illegal, I just no longer think it done was
> with malicious intent. Never be too hasty to ascribe malicious intent when
> sheer stupidity is a plausible explanation.
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> On September 30, 2017 at 3:06 PM G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
 
> About now.. I would be dialing a lawyer... were it me.

She's in Alaska, but I'm pretty sure Clay has been telling her all about it.
Agree with you that messing with titled property that belongs to neither him 
nor his employer is clearly illegal, I just no longer think it done was with 
malicious intent. Never be too hasty to ascribe malicious intent when sheer 
stupidity is a plausible explanation. 
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[G Mann via Mercedes]

Seems to me, you have legal standing to bring suit against them for
such actions. Far and above any damage done to you, or your car.

In this state, such actions would qualify for a tripple damages clause
in the settlement at court.
Case could be made the offending INSco bypassed all legal restraint
and violated insurance license requirements of ethical actions.

About now.. I would be dialing a lawyer... were it me.

On 9/30/17, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  wrote:
>
>> On September 29, 2017 at 9:48 PM clay monroe via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>>
>>
>> they did the dirty deed on his say so with no paperwork.  He tried to
>> steal the car from the body shop and send it to Coparts.  It seems this
>> sort of thing happens a bunch, as there is a special section of DOL
>> dedicated to dealing with this.  I put in a call, but they are really busy
>> overturning adjusters who crap on people
>
> The more I think about it, the more I think it's just business as usual,
> proceeding blithely along and gittin 'er done as quickly as possible.
>
> The fact that it's not his/her car and they have no right to dispose of it
> unless they purchase it, and only after they have actually completed the
> purchase just never entered into their tiny brain.
>
> You don't have a contract with them that gives them the right to purchase
> your car. If you don't want to sell them the car, it's just a matter of
> arguing with them over the size of the check they'll have to give you to
> make you shut up and not sue their client.
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> On September 29, 2017 at 9:48 PM clay monroe via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> they did the dirty deed on his say so with no paperwork.  He tried to steal 
> the car from the body shop and send it to Coparts.  It seems this sort of 
> thing happens a bunch, as there is a special section of DOL dedicated to 
> dealing with this.  I put in a call, but they are really busy overturning 
> adjusters who crap on people

The more I think about it, the more I think it's just business as usual, 
proceeding blithely along and gittin 'er done as quickly as possible.  

The fact that it's not his/her car and they have no right to dispose of it 
unless they purchase it, and only after they have actually completed the 
purchase just never entered into their tiny brain. 

You don't have a contract with them that gives them the right to purchase your 
car. If you don't want to sell them the car, it's just a matter of arguing with 
them over the size of the check they'll have to give you to make you shut up 
and not sue their client. 
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Re: [MBZ] Total my car

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

You’re being generous, unless the car is really clean.

Being sensitive to your plight after having to deal with the disposal of my 
former 2003 S420, I’d say your numbers are a little high.  These things are 
like cockroaches around here and they just don’t sell.  I’m not sure whether 
it’s the reputation they have for being a PITA to maintain or their lack of 
style/design that makes them look like every other car on the road.

During my recent search for a W210 I saw these littering CL in my area.  Almost 
as bad as the C class stuff.

-D



> On Sep 29, 2017, at 10:43 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> IF the airmatic were functional, probably around $4-4.5k
> 
> Deduct $1k for having to deal with airmatic.  Replacement air springs can be 
> had for less than $300 a pair.  FoolTube videos from Arnott show the job 
> taking about 75 minutes for both sides.
> 
> clay
> 
>> On Sep 29, 2017, at 7:18 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Not even sure what those are worth.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 
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Re: [MBZ] Total my car

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

w220 

2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap

130k, all services since new, but only records from 2012 when I got the car
air is cold, most systems are functional, no cd, does have command and nav disk 
for pacific region, not california


clay 

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1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

retired models-
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1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers







> On Sep 29, 2017, at 7:47 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> What year is it?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Sep 29, 2017, at 9:43 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> IF the airmatic were functional, probably around $4-4.5k
>> 
>> Deduct $1k for having to deal with airmatic.  Replacement air springs can be 
>> had for less than $300 a pair.  FoolTube videos from Arnott show the job 
>> taking about 75 minutes for both sides.
>> 
>> clay
>> 
>>> On Sep 29, 2017, at 7:18 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Not even sure what those are worth.
>>> 
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What year is it?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 29, 2017, at 9:43 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> IF the airmatic were functional, probably around $4-4.5k
> 
> Deduct $1k for having to deal with airmatic.  Replacement air springs can be 
> had for less than $300 a pair.  FoolTube videos from Arnott show the job 
> taking about 75 minutes for both sides.
> 
> clay
> 
>> On Sep 29, 2017, at 7:18 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Not even sure what those are worth.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 
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IF the airmatic were functional, probably around $4-4.5k

Deduct $1k for having to deal with airmatic.  Replacement air springs can be 
had for less than $300 a pair.  FoolTube videos from Arnott show the job taking 
about 75 minutes for both sides.

clay

> On Sep 29, 2017, at 7:18 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Not even sure what those are worth.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 

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Not even sure what those are worth.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 29, 2017, at 9:11 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Make me a reasonable offer.  
> 
> Only PITA at the moment is the front suspension.  The pump is ok, might be a 
> leak on a spring or the distributor.  The rear wheels were on the ground in 
> April, but my indy cleared the codes and tossed in a new relay.  That seemed 
> to make the system work for a few weeks, then, probably for not driving it, 
> the front end leaked down.
> 
> 
> clay
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> proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a piece of shit by the 
> clean end.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 29, 2017, at 6:34 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> How much do you want for the 220?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Sep 29, 2017, at 8:23 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have invested mucho dinero in making a a daily driver.  When I went to 
>>> pick the car up, the POS W220 kacked its speedo and then shat its airmatic. 
>>>   To make either car work again, the investment is the same.  But I think 
>>> the SD is a more reliable car, as the W220 is a cascade failure of epic 
>>> proportions
>>> 
>>> clay
>>> 
 On Sep 29, 2017, at 10:29 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Didn't you get this car for free?
 
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Re: [MBZ] Total my car

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Make me a reasonable offer.  

Only PITA at the moment is the front suspension.  The pump is ok, might be a 
leak on a spring or the distributor.  The rear wheels were on the ground in 
April, but my indy cleared the codes and tossed in a new relay.  That seemed to 
make the system work for a few weeks, then, probably for not driving it, the 
front end leaked down.


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> On Sep 29, 2017, at 6:34 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
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> 
> How much do you want for the 220?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Sep 29, 2017, at 8:23 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I have invested mucho dinero in making a a daily driver.  When I went to 
>> pick the car up, the POS W220 kacked its speedo and then shat its airmatic.  
>>  To make either car work again, the investment is the same.  But I think the 
>> SD is a more reliable car, as the W220 is a cascade failure of epic 
>> proportions
>> 
>> clay
>> 
>>> On Sep 29, 2017, at 10:29 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Didn't you get this car for free?
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Total my car

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Correct

I just made a list of all the “upgrades”.  There a a bunch.  Replaced most of 
the interior parts, lights, paint and full filters/fluids, as well as tires.  
Turns out the engine is a rebuilt with only 15k on the clock.  I did not 
remember that.   I wonder what impact that has on value


clay


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> 
>> On September 29, 2017 at 1:29 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Didn't you get this car for free?
> 
> Before spending 50 hours painting it, and then fixing up a bazillion other 
> things?
> 
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they did the dirty deed on his say so with no paperwork.  He tried to steal the 
car from the body shop and send it to Coparts.  It seems this sort of thing 
happens a bunch, as there is a special section of DOL dedicated to dealing with 
this.  I put in a call, but they are really busy overturning adjusters who crap 
on people

clay


> On Sep 29, 2017, at 11:28 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
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> 
>> On September 28, 2017 at 11:30 PM clay monroe via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> The cojones on this SOB!  He did report my car as a total loss, BEFORE he 
>> even had a settlement.
> 
> And what did the WA DMV do with his report?
> Did they salvage your title just on his say-so with no title or paperwork 
> from the legal owner?
> 
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How much do you want for the 220?

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> On Sep 29, 2017, at 8:23 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I have invested mucho dinero in making a a daily driver.  When I went to pick 
> the car up, the POS W220 kacked its speedo and then shat its airmatic.   To 
> make either car work again, the investment is the same.  But I think the SD 
> is a more reliable car, as the W220 is a cascade failure of epic proportions
> 
> clay
> 
>> On Sep 29, 2017, at 10:29 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Didn't you get this car for free?
>> 
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I have invested mucho dinero in making a a daily driver.  When I went to pick 
the car up, the POS W220 kacked its speedo and then shat its airmatic.   To 
make either car work again, the investment is the same.  But I think the SD is 
a more reliable car, as the W220 is a cascade failure of epic proportions

clay

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I like his muscle guy instead of Saul.  A bullet to the boys head would reduce 
all manner of unhappy


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> On Sep 29, 2017, at 7:39 AM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes 
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> Call Saul!
> 
> -MMM-
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>> You need Harry Dean to help out with the repo
>> 
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I have stuffed the checks mailed me into a folder and will not process them.  I 
told the adjuster I am not accepting his checks and they will remain filed 
until I get a reasonable settlement.   I have been paying all other costs, but 
for the rental car that they are picking up, not part of the settlement.

I have made two complaints to the insurance commissioner.  Most recent details 
each statute he violated.  I expect there will be fire works when his pee pee 
is whacked.




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> On Sep 29, 2017, at 2:19 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I assume you know better than to deposit or cash a check form them, even if 
> it’s considered partial payment.  That would be considered acceptance of 
> their terms as I understand it.
> 
> And I heartily agree with the others advice of engaging your state insurance 
> licensing folks.  Here in FL they are feared by the insurance companies 
> according to a friend who runs a very large and successful State Farm agency.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Sep 28, 2017, at 11:30 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> The cojones on this SOB!  He did report my car as a total loss, BEFORE he 
>> even had a settlement.  This idiot just assumes that I will roll over and be 
>> raped by his employer.  I get a package with a check for the valuation he 
>> tried to foist off on me last Friday.  His last revised valuation was for 
>> yet another $600, which is not in this recent payment.  Then he has the gall 
>> to think I will sign some form that clouds my title and that he will get 
>> this car.  Not on his life, or those of his beloved.  I would rather drive 
>> out to RI wearing a suicide vest and take out his office building.
>> 
>> This guy is a true grifter.  He thought he could abscond with my car and 
>> leave me holding his envelope of venom.  The tow truck trick was pretty 
>> slick.  He had tried to get it off the body shop lot last night, but I 
>> foiled that by having paid the bill, so he has no claim to the car.
>> 
>> I will bring a glorious wrath down upon his head.  It will scorch the earth 
>> around him for generations, and will be immortalized in history as having 
>> been due to his hubris.
>> 
>> 
>> clay 
>> 
>> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
>> 1986 SDL - Polei
>> 1982 300 SD - Allen
>> 
>> retired models-
>> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
>> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
>> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
>> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
>> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 28, 2017, at 3:06 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
 On September 28, 2017 at 4:48 PM clay monroe via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 
 I have been getting odd calls from an out of town number asking if I had 
 called for a car to be… mumble mumble.  It started last night and I had 
 four of five this morning.  I figured it was a wrong number.
 
 Turns out it is some girl the adjuster had sent out to try to steal my car 
 from the body shop.  Another underhanded move to kidnap and hold me 
 hostage to his settlement demands.  Adjuster takes my car and I have to 
 agree to his terms if I want it back.  What a putz!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sue the other driver for what you think the car is worth. 
>>> Attach a cover letter explaining that the claims adjuster did some criminal 
>>> things and you had to protect yourself, send it to the CEO of Amica with a 
>>> copy of the summons and complaint. 
>>> 
>>> Mitch.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Total my car

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On September 29, 2017 at 1:29 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Didn't you get this car for free?

Before spending 50 hours painting it, and then fixing up a bazillion other 
things?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Total my car

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> On September 28, 2017 at 11:30 PM clay monroe via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> The cojones on this SOB!  He did report my car as a total loss, BEFORE he 
> even had a settlement.

And what did the WA DMV do with his report?
Did they salvage your title just on his say-so with no title or paperwork from 
the legal owner?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Total my car

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Didn't you get this car for free?

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Total my car

[M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes]

Call Saul!

-MMM-

On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 8:49 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> You need Harry Dean to help out with the repo
>
> --R
>
>
> On 9/28/17 11:30 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> The cojones on this SOB!  He did report my car as a total loss, BEFORE he
>> even had a settlement.  This idiot just assumes that I will roll over and
>> be raped by his employer.  I get a package with a check for the valuation
>> he tried to foist off on me last Friday.  His last revised valuation was
>> for yet another $600, which is not in this recent payment.  Then he has the
>> gall to think I will sign some form that clouds my title and that he will
>> get this car.  Not on his life, or those of his beloved.  I would rather
>> drive out to RI wearing a suicide vest and take out his office building.
>>
>> This guy is a true grifter.  He thought he could abscond with my car and
>> leave me holding his envelope of venom.  The tow truck trick was pretty
>> slick.  He had tried to get it off the body shop lot last night, but I
>> foiled that by having paid the bill, so he has no claim to the car.
>>
>> I will bring a glorious wrath down upon his head.  It will scorch the
>> earth around him for generations, and will be immortalized in history as
>> having been due to his hubris.
>>
>>
>> clay
>>
>> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
>> 1986 SDL - Polei
>> 1982 300 SD - Allen
>>
>> retired models-
>> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
>> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
>> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
>> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
>> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 28, 2017, at 3:06 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On September 28, 2017 at 4:48 PM clay monroe via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


 I have been getting odd calls from an out of town number asking if I
 had called for a car to be… mumble mumble.  It started last night and I had
 four of five this morning.  I figured it was a wrong number.

 Turns out it is some girl the adjuster had sent out to try to steal my
 car from the body shop.  Another underhanded move to kidnap and hold me
 hostage to his settlement demands.  Adjuster takes my car and I have to
 agree to his terms if I want it back.  What a putz!

>>>
>>> Sue the other driver for what you think the car is worth.
>>> Attach a cover letter explaining that the claims adjuster did some
>>> criminal things and you had to protect yourself, send it to the CEO of
>>> Amica with a copy of the summons and complaint.
>>>
>>> Mitch.
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] Total my car

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

You need Harry Dean to help out with the repo

--R


On 9/28/17 11:30 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes wrote:

The cojones on this SOB!  He did report my car as a total loss, BEFORE he even 
had a settlement.  This idiot just assumes that I will roll over and be raped 
by his employer.  I get a package with a check for the valuation he tried to 
foist off on me last Friday.  His last revised valuation was for yet another 
$600, which is not in this recent payment.  Then he has the gall to think I 
will sign some form that clouds my title and that he will get this car.  Not on 
his life, or those of his beloved.  I would rather drive out to RI wearing a 
suicide vest and take out his office building.

This guy is a true grifter.  He thought he could abscond with my car and leave 
me holding his envelope of venom.  The tow truck trick was pretty slick.  He 
had tried to get it off the body shop lot last night, but I foiled that by 
having paid the bill, so he has no claim to the car.

I will bring a glorious wrath down upon his head.  It will scorch the earth 
around him for generations, and will be immortalized in history as having been 
due to his hubris.


clay

1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

retired models-
2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers








On Sep 28, 2017, at 3:06 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
wrote:



On September 28, 2017 at 4:48 PM clay monroe via Mercedes 
 wrote:


I have been getting odd calls from an out of town number asking if I had called 
for a car to be… mumble mumble.  It started last night and I had four of five 
this morning.  I figured it was a wrong number.

Turns out it is some girl the adjuster had sent out to try to steal my car from 
the body shop.  Another underhanded move to kidnap and hold me hostage to his 
settlement demands.  Adjuster takes my car and I have to agree to his terms if 
I want it back.  What a putz!


Sue the other driver for what you think the car is worth.
Attach a cover letter explaining that the claims adjuster did some criminal 
things and you had to protect yourself, send it to the CEO of Amica with a copy 
of the summons and complaint.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Total my car

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I assume you know better than to deposit or cash a check form them, even if 
it’s considered partial payment.  That would be considered acceptance of their 
terms as I understand it.

And I heartily agree with the others advice of engaging your state insurance 
licensing folks.  Here in FL they are feared by the insurance companies 
according to a friend who runs a very large and successful State Farm agency.

-D


> On Sep 28, 2017, at 11:30 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The cojones on this SOB!  He did report my car as a total loss, BEFORE he 
> even had a settlement.  This idiot just assumes that I will roll over and be 
> raped by his employer.  I get a package with a check for the valuation he 
> tried to foist off on me last Friday.  His last revised valuation was for yet 
> another $600, which is not in this recent payment.  Then he has the gall to 
> think I will sign some form that clouds my title and that he will get this 
> car.  Not on his life, or those of his beloved.  I would rather drive out to 
> RI wearing a suicide vest and take out his office building.
> 
> This guy is a true grifter.  He thought he could abscond with my car and 
> leave me holding his envelope of venom.  The tow truck trick was pretty 
> slick.  He had tried to get it off the body shop lot last night, but I foiled 
> that by having paid the bill, so he has no claim to the car.
> 
> I will bring a glorious wrath down upon his head.  It will scorch the earth 
> around him for generations, and will be immortalized in history as having 
> been due to his hubris.
> 
> 
> clay 
> 
> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
> 1986 SDL - Polei
> 1982 300 SD - Allen
> 
> retired models-
> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 28, 2017, at 3:06 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On September 28, 2017 at 4:48 PM clay monroe via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I have been getting odd calls from an out of town number asking if I had 
>>> called for a car to be… mumble mumble.  It started last night and I had 
>>> four of five this morning.  I figured it was a wrong number.
>>> 
>>> Turns out it is some girl the adjuster had sent out to try to steal my car 
>>> from the body shop.  Another underhanded move to kidnap and hold me hostage 
>>> to his settlement demands.  Adjuster takes my car and I have to agree to 
>>> his terms if I want it back.  What a putz!
>> 
>> 
>> Sue the other driver for what you think the car is worth. 
>> Attach a cover letter explaining that the claims adjuster did some criminal 
>> things and you had to protect yourself, send it to the CEO of Amica with a 
>> copy of the summons and complaint. 
>> 
>> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] Total my car

[G Mann via Mercedes]

To do business in a state, an insurance company MUST be licensed. Each
state has a department that has no other duty but to monitor compliance
with those licenses.

Find that department, call them, report what the INSCO is doing.. I wager
it will get results... quickly...  Here, it is called the "State Insurance
Commission" and recently, a friend had a problem, called them on my
suggestion at 10:00, at 1:00 PM the insurance company hand delivered a
check for payment in full by an officer of the company... they took it VERY
seriously...

Perhaps the same result could happen for you.

On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 8:57 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I have been trying to get the lawyers in the family to provide referral to
> a reputable practitioner.  Maybe Mr. Snook, Esq. would take it on
> contingency.
>
>
> clay
>  Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical
> minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the
> proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a piece of shit by the
> clean end.
>
>
>
> > On Sep 28, 2017, at 8:40 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 20:30:35 -0700 clay monroe via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> >
> >> The cojones on this SOB!  He did report my car as a total loss, BEFORE
> >> he even had a settlement.  This idiot just assumes that I will roll
> >> over and be raped by his employer.  I get a package with a check for
> >> the valuation he tried to foist off on me last Friday.  His last
> >> revised valuation was for yet another $600, which is not in this recent
> >> payment.  Then he has the gall to think I will sign some form that
> >> clouds my title and that he will get this car.  Not on his life, or
> >> those of his beloved.  I would rather drive out to RI wearing a suicide
> >> vest and take out his office building.
> >>
> >> This guy is a true grifter.  He thought he could abscond with my car
> >> and leave me holding his envelope of venom.  The tow truck trick was
> >> pretty slick.  He had tried to get it off the body shop lot last night,
> >> but I foiled that by having paid the bill, so he has no claim to the
> >> car.
> >>
> >> I will bring a glorious wrath down upon his head.  It will scorch the
> >> earth around him for generations, and will be immortalized in history
> >> as having been due to his hubris.
> >
> > Do you have an attorney?
> >
> > Sounds like it would be good to have one on your side!
> >
> > An attorney would know how to proceed to get the fellow behind bars and
> > his company penalized.
> >
> >
> > Craig
> >
> >
> >
> >>> On Sep 28, 2017, at 3:06 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> >>>  wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
>  On September 28, 2017 at 4:48 PM clay monroe via Mercedes
>   wrote:
> 
> 
>  I have been getting odd calls from an out of town number asking if I
>  had called for a car to be… mumble mumble.  It started last night
>  and I had four of five this morning.  I figured it was a wrong
>  number.
> 
>  Turns out it is some girl the adjuster had sent out to try to steal
>  my car from the body shop.  Another underhanded move to kidnap and
>  hold me hostage to his settlement demands.  Adjuster takes my car
>  and I have to agree to his terms if I want it back.  What a putz!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Sue the other driver for what you think the car is worth.
> >>> Attach a cover letter explaining that the claims adjuster did some
> >>> criminal things and you had to protect yourself, send it to the CEO
> >>> of Amica with a copy of the summons and complaint.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Total my car

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

I have been trying to get the lawyers in the family to provide referral to a 
reputable practitioner.  Maybe Mr. Snook, Esq. would take it on contingency.


clay
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> On Sep 28, 2017, at 8:40 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 20:30:35 -0700 clay monroe via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> The cojones on this SOB!  He did report my car as a total loss, BEFORE
>> he even had a settlement.  This idiot just assumes that I will roll
>> over and be raped by his employer.  I get a package with a check for
>> the valuation he tried to foist off on me last Friday.  His last
>> revised valuation was for yet another $600, which is not in this recent
>> payment.  Then he has the gall to think I will sign some form that
>> clouds my title and that he will get this car.  Not on his life, or
>> those of his beloved.  I would rather drive out to RI wearing a suicide
>> vest and take out his office building.
>> 
>> This guy is a true grifter.  He thought he could abscond with my car
>> and leave me holding his envelope of venom.  The tow truck trick was
>> pretty slick.  He had tried to get it off the body shop lot last night,
>> but I foiled that by having paid the bill, so he has no claim to the
>> car.
>> 
>> I will bring a glorious wrath down upon his head.  It will scorch the
>> earth around him for generations, and will be immortalized in history
>> as having been due to his hubris.
> 
> Do you have an attorney?
> 
> Sounds like it would be good to have one on your side!
> 
> An attorney would know how to proceed to get the fellow behind bars and
> his company penalized.
> 
> 
> Craig
> 
> 
> 
>>> On Sep 28, 2017, at 3:06 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
 On September 28, 2017 at 4:48 PM clay monroe via Mercedes
  wrote:
 
 
 I have been getting odd calls from an out of town number asking if I
 had called for a car to be… mumble mumble.  It started last night
 and I had four of five this morning.  I figured it was a wrong
 number.
 
 Turns out it is some girl the adjuster had sent out to try to steal
 my car from the body shop.  Another underhanded move to kidnap and
 hold me hostage to his settlement demands.  Adjuster takes my car
 and I have to agree to his terms if I want it back.  What a putz!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sue the other driver for what you think the car is worth. 
>>> Attach a cover letter explaining that the claims adjuster did some
>>> criminal things and you had to protect yourself, send it to the CEO
>>> of Amica with a copy of the summons and complaint. 
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Re: [MBZ] Total my car

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 20:30:35 -0700 clay monroe via Mercedes
 wrote:

> The cojones on this SOB!  He did report my car as a total loss, BEFORE
> he even had a settlement.  This idiot just assumes that I will roll
> over and be raped by his employer.  I get a package with a check for
> the valuation he tried to foist off on me last Friday.  His last
> revised valuation was for yet another $600, which is not in this recent
> payment.  Then he has the gall to think I will sign some form that
> clouds my title and that he will get this car.  Not on his life, or
> those of his beloved.  I would rather drive out to RI wearing a suicide
> vest and take out his office building.
> 
> This guy is a true grifter.  He thought he could abscond with my car
> and leave me holding his envelope of venom.  The tow truck trick was
> pretty slick.  He had tried to get it off the body shop lot last night,
> but I foiled that by having paid the bill, so he has no claim to the
> car.
> 
> I will bring a glorious wrath down upon his head.  It will scorch the
> earth around him for generations, and will be immortalized in history
> as having been due to his hubris.

Do you have an attorney?

Sounds like it would be good to have one on your side!

An attorney would know how to proceed to get the fellow behind bars and
his company penalized.


Craig



> > On Sep 28, 2017, at 3:06 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >> On September 28, 2017 at 4:48 PM clay monroe via Mercedes
> >>  wrote:
> >> 
> >> 
> >> I have been getting odd calls from an out of town number asking if I
> >> had called for a car to be… mumble mumble.  It started last night
> >> and I had four of five this morning.  I figured it was a wrong
> >> number.
> >> 
> >> Turns out it is some girl the adjuster had sent out to try to steal
> >> my car from the body shop.  Another underhanded move to kidnap and
> >> hold me hostage to his settlement demands.  Adjuster takes my car
> >> and I have to agree to his terms if I want it back.  What a putz!
> > 
> > 
> > Sue the other driver for what you think the car is worth. 
> > Attach a cover letter explaining that the claims adjuster did some
> > criminal things and you had to protect yourself, send it to the CEO
> > of Amica with a copy of the summons and complaint. 

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Re: [MBZ] Total my car

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

The cojones on this SOB!  He did report my car as a total loss, BEFORE he even 
had a settlement.  This idiot just assumes that I will roll over and be raped 
by his employer.  I get a package with a check for the valuation he tried to 
foist off on me last Friday.  His last revised valuation was for yet another 
$600, which is not in this recent payment.  Then he has the gall to think I 
will sign some form that clouds my title and that he will get this car.  Not on 
his life, or those of his beloved.  I would rather drive out to RI wearing a 
suicide vest and take out his office building.

This guy is a true grifter.  He thought he could abscond with my car and leave 
me holding his envelope of venom.  The tow truck trick was pretty slick.  He 
had tried to get it off the body shop lot last night, but I foiled that by 
having paid the bill, so he has no claim to the car.

I will bring a glorious wrath down upon his head.  It will scorch the earth 
around him for generations, and will be immortalized in history as having been 
due to his hubris.


clay 

1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

retired models-
2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers







> On Sep 28, 2017, at 3:06 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On September 28, 2017 at 4:48 PM clay monroe via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I have been getting odd calls from an out of town number asking if I had 
>> called for a car to be… mumble mumble.  It started last night and I had four 
>> of five this morning.  I figured it was a wrong number.
>> 
>> Turns out it is some girl the adjuster had sent out to try to steal my car 
>> from the body shop.  Another underhanded move to kidnap and hold me hostage 
>> to his settlement demands.  Adjuster takes my car and I have to agree to his 
>> terms if I want it back.  What a putz!
> 
> 
> Sue the other driver for what you think the car is worth. 
> Attach a cover letter explaining that the claims adjuster did some criminal 
> things and you had to protect yourself, send it to the CEO of Amica with a 
> copy of the summons and complaint. 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Total my car

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> On September 28, 2017 at 4:48 PM clay monroe via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I have been getting odd calls from an out of town number asking if I had 
> called for a car to be… mumble mumble.  It started last night and I had four 
> of five this morning.  I figured it was a wrong number.
> 
> Turns out it is some girl the adjuster had sent out to try to steal my car 
> from the body shop.  Another underhanded move to kidnap and hold me hostage 
> to his settlement demands.  Adjuster takes my car and I have to agree to his 
> terms if I want it back.  What a putz!


Sue the other driver for what you think the car is worth. 
Attach a cover letter explaining that the claims adjuster did some criminal 
things and you had to protect yourself, send it to the CEO of Amica with a copy 
of the summons and complaint. 

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Re: [MBZ] Total my car

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

She knows I have too many cars.  I am trying to sell off the W220, but nobody 
wants the thing.

SWMBA is pretty busy with oil and gas stuff in the great white north, so less 
inclined to take time over a measly $2k value dispute.  I did ask her to submit 
a representation letter so that the as*hat can no longer pester me.  That would 
keep the file open for a bit while I recover.

clay 

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1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

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1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers







> On Sep 28, 2017, at 1:38 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> IIRC, SWMBO Is an attorney.  
> Sic her on them.
> Unless you don't want her to know you have too many cars.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Total my car

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

I have been getting odd calls from an out of town number asking if I had called 
for a car to be… mumble mumble.  It started last night and I had four of five 
this morning.  I figured it was a wrong number.

Turns out it is some girl the adjuster had sent out to try to steal my car from 
the body shop.  Another underhanded move to kidnap and hold me hostage to his 
settlement demands.  Adjuster takes my car and I have to agree to his terms if 
I want it back.  What a putz!



clay 

1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

retired models-
2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers







> On Sep 26, 2017, at 4:36 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Good question.  That would certainly make a difference.  I’m guessing it’s 
> the other driver’s insurance, as if it were his insurer you would expect them 
> to be advocating for him since they would be subrogating the claim anyway.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Sep 26, 2017, at 7:26 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On September 26, 2017 at 7:12 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Court is most likely not an option, as nearly every insurer has an 
>>> arbitration clause in their policy.  If it goes to arbitration you’ll get 
>>> screwed as the tables are tilted in their favor, of course.
>> 
>> I'm a little unclear as to whether he has a contract with the insurer or 
>> not. 
>> Is he dealing with his insurance or the at fault driver's insurance?
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Total my car

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

IIRC, SWMBO Is an attorney.  
Sic her on them.
Unless you don't want her to know you have too many cars.

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Total my car

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

I was fed up with the mendacious ways of the adjuster.  Catch -22 where they 
were no longer going to pay for storage of the car at body shop, but not paying 
the bill, so that I could remove the car from body shop.  Tech from body shop 
admits the guy is being a putz and making it hard.

Adjuster tells me the title is already clouded and he submitted to the state as 
salvage.  I remain legal owner, but he likes to lie in his attempts to force a 
low settlement.  I decided to complain to the state insurance commission about 
his pernicious prevarications.  I will be sending supplemental data to support 
my complaint.

So, I got the run around last night when I tried to pick up the car.  Need it 
towed to my home, but bill needs paid.  I whip out my CC and pay it.  Then will 
submit that bill to insco to get reimbursed.  Then I emailed the adjuster boy 
out in RI that he is off the case, as he is unethical and untrustworthy.  Also 
that I am retrieving my car as soon as he pays the bill at the shop.  Made it 
sound as if I was backing down.  I will keep this fish on the hook and poke him 
every so often to keep the pot at a simmer.  I figure that insco will grow 
tired within the next ten months and come around to a more equitable resolution.





clay 

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1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

retired models-
2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers







> On Sep 26, 2017, at 5:48 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> If he is dealing with the other drivers insurance an arbitration clause would 
> not apply to him I would not think. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 26, 2017, at 6:26 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On September 26, 2017 at 7:12 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Court is most likely not an option, as nearly every insurer has an 
>>> arbitration clause in their policy.  If it goes to arbitration you’ll get 
>>> screwed as the tables are tilted in their favor, of course.
>> 
>> I'm a little unclear as to whether he has a contract with the insurer or 
>> not. 
>> Is he dealing with his insurance or the at fault driver's insurance?
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Total my car

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> On September 26, 2017 at 8:50 PM Craig via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> Who is Amica?
> 
> Why would they be paying out at the end of three years and not now?

My interpretation was that his insurance, USAA was paying the medical bills as 
they occur, and will subrogate the lump sum to her insurance, Amica, at the end 
of 3 years when hopefully the medical expenses will be finished. 

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Re: [MBZ] Total my car

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> On Sep 26, 2017, at 5:50 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 26 Sep 2017 17:44:02 -0700 clay monroe via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> USAA is dealing with the PIP.
> 
> PIP? Personal Injury Protection?

yes

> 
> 
>> Amica will then be subrogate and end up paying out at the end of the
>> three year term.
> 
> Who is Amica?

Carrier of the dame who ran into my car.  

> 
> Why would they be paying out at the end of three years and not now?

PIP covers medical issues related to the crash for three years.

> 
> 
>> I had to work in pain and with mental clouds this month because the
>> lost wages coverage would have required I have no income for the
>> month.
> 
> This seems odd. And why did you work in pain and with mental clouds at
> all? Why not say you are incapable of working, which it seems is the case?

I need to miss at least 14 days of work before the lost wages kick in.  I work 
14 days this month.  Payout is only 80% of wages.   To have income, I must 
therefore work while injured.

> 
> 
>> This just increases the need for more therapies to alleviate the damage.
> 
> Which the other driver's insurance company will cover, I hope.

As long as USAA covers it, the medical stuff gets paid.  Then it becomes a 
matter of legal departments from each carrier pissing on each others heads and 
saying it is raining.

> 
> 
>> As it is, I am not sleeping well, and have been waking up screaming in
>> the middle of the night the past two weeks.  Dealing with microcephalic
>> insurance drones just makes my head hurt in the most excruciating
>> manner.
> 
> Is that literally screaming in the middle of the night because of pain
> due to the damage your body sustained?

Some of it is physical, due to muscle and nerve damages.  Much of it is the 
brain trying to process all the repairs and clean damage.  Much like night 
terrors the kids got as youngsters.  Brain trimming axons and stuff.

> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Total my car

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Tue, 26 Sep 2017 17:50:08 -0700 clay monroe via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Pin head remains intransigent.

I presume the pin head is with the at-fault party's insco.

Sounds like you are trying to push him. Wait him out.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Total my car

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Tue, 26 Sep 2017 17:44:02 -0700 clay monroe via Mercedes
 wrote:

> USAA is dealing with the PIP.

PIP? Personal Injury Protection?


> Amica will then be subrogate and end up paying out at the end of the
> three year term.

Who is Amica?

Why would they be paying out at the end of three years and not now?


> I had to work in pain and with mental clouds this month because the
> lost wages coverage would have required I have no income for the
> month.

This seems odd. And why did you work in pain and with mental clouds at
all? Why not say you are incapable of working, which it seems is the case?


> This just increases the need for more therapies to alleviate the damage.

Which the other driver's insurance company will cover, I hope.


> As it is, I am not sleeping well, and have been waking up screaming in
> the middle of the night the past two weeks.  Dealing with microcephalic
> insurance drones just makes my head hurt in the most excruciating
> manner.

Is that literally screaming in the middle of the night because of pain
due to the damage your body sustained?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Total my car

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

OK-

All medical is through my insurance

All mechanical/auto is through the at fault party insurance.

I have been spending the day trading email with the insco drone.  I am not able 
to carry on business telephonically because the brain trauma has resulted in 
increase aggressive response to perceived threats.  I end up yelling and 
becoming unreasonable.  When I am able to calmly state my case and have the 
requisite time to gather my wandering sheep thoughts, I can compose a fairly 
coherent missive.

Pin head remains intransigent.

clay



> On Sep 26, 2017, at 4:26 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On September 26, 2017 at 7:12 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Court is most likely not an option, as nearly every insurer has an 
>> arbitration clause in their policy.  If it goes to arbitration you’ll get 
>> screwed as the tables are tilted in their favor, of course.
> 
> I'm a little unclear as to whether he has a contract with the insurer or not. 
> Is he dealing with his insurance or the at fault driver's insurance?
 
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Re: [MBZ] Total my car

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

USAA is dealing with the PIP.  Amica will then be subrogate and end up paying 
out at the end of the three year term.  I had to work in pain and with mental 
clouds this month because the lost wages coverage would have required I have no 
income for the month.  This just increases the need for more therapies to 
alleviate the damage.

As it is, I am not sleeping well, and have been waking up screaming in the 
middle of the night the past two weeks.  Dealing with microcephalic insurance 
drones just makes my head hurt in the most excruciating manner.

clay

> On Sep 26, 2017, at 6:08 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On September 26, 2017 at 8:52 AM Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> Definitely hold out for the upper end of the value range in Kelly Blue Book 
>> or similar.  Most insurance company adjusters don't understand the value 
>> holding ability of a well maintained Benz.
>> 
> 
> Dear Mr Claims Adjuster: How many of the cars you consider comparable are one 
> step away from the junkyard, and how many of them have had $4000 worth of 
> paintwork in the past year? Oh, and BTW, I'm still experiencing headaches, 
> since you're paying for the CAT scan, is there a particular hospital you'd 
> like me to go to?  (in all seriousness, in Clay's case I would not use the 
> medical claim for leverage on the property damage claim, he wants to keep the 
> medical claim open for as long as possible because there may be lingering 
> effects)
> 
> Mitch.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Total my car

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Tue, 26 Sep 2017 14:27:17 -0700 clay monroe via Mercedes
 wrote:

> The at fault driver’s insco.  I have a written statement from the
> driver that she had an open container of alcohol with her in the front
> seat, which was the proximate cause of the vehicle loss.  I am going to
> share it with police and my insco, as well as attorney/

Make several copies and hand them out; leave the original safe at home.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Total my car

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

The at fault driver’s insco.  I have a written statement from the driver that 
she had an open container of alcohol with her in the front seat, which was the 
proximate cause of the vehicle loss.  I am going to share it with police and my 
insco, as well as attorney/

clay

> On Sep 26, 2017, at 4:36 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Good question.  That would certainly make a difference.  I’m guessing it’s 
> the other driver’s insurance, as if it were his insurer you would expect them 
> to be advocating for him since they would be subrogating the claim anyway.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Sep 26, 2017, at 7:26 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On September 26, 2017 at 7:12 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Court is most likely not an option, as nearly every insurer has an 
>>> arbitration clause in their policy.  If it goes to arbitration you’ll get 
>>> screwed as the tables are tilted in their favor, of course.
>> 
>> I'm a little unclear as to whether he has a contract with the insurer or 
>> not. 
>> Is he dealing with his insurance or the at fault driver's insurance?
>> 
>> Mitch. 

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Re: [MBZ] Total my car

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

In a no-fault state, if the claim is against the at-fault driver's
insurance then you do not have a contract with the insurer.  Court is then
always an option.  If _your_ insurance is involved at all, then that would
be different.  You _do_ have a contract with them.  (This is a lay opinion,
and worth every dime you paid for it.)

-- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] Total my car

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Are you a contingency trial lawyer by any chance?

On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 9:08 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> > On September 26, 2017 at 8:52 AM Peter Frederick via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > Definitely hold out for the upper end of the value range in Kelly Blue
> Book or similar.  Most insurance company adjusters don't understand the
> value holding ability of a well maintained Benz.
> >
>
> Dear Mr Claims Adjuster: How many of the cars you consider comparable are
> one step away from the junkyard, and how many of them have had $4000 worth
> of paintwork in the past year? Oh, and BTW, I'm still experiencing
> headaches, since you're paying for the CAT scan, is there a particular
> hospital you'd like me to go to?  (in all seriousness, in Clay's case I
> would not use the medical claim for leverage on the property damage claim,
> he wants to keep the medical claim open for as long as possible because
> there may be lingering effects)
>
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Re: [MBZ] Total my car

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On September 26, 2017 at 8:52 AM Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> Definitely hold out for the upper end of the value range in Kelly Blue Book 
> or similar.  Most insurance company adjusters don't understand the value 
> holding ability of a well maintained Benz.
> 

Dear Mr Claims Adjuster: How many of the cars you consider comparable are one 
step away from the junkyard, and how many of them have had $4000 worth of 
paintwork in the past year? Oh, and BTW, I'm still experiencing headaches, 
since you're paying for the CAT scan, is there a particular hospital you'd like 
me to go to?  (in all seriousness, in Clay's case I would not use the medical 
claim for leverage on the property damage claim, he wants to keep the medical 
claim open for as long as possible because there may be lingering effects)

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Total my car

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

This would be true, and no doubt what Mitch was alluding to.

-D


> On Sep 26, 2017, at 8:48 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> If he is dealing with the other drivers insurance an arbitration clause would 
> not apply to him I would not think. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 26, 2017, at 6:26 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On September 26, 2017 at 7:12 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Court is most likely not an option, as nearly every insurer has an 
>>> arbitration clause in their policy.  If it goes to arbitration you’ll get 
>>> screwed as the tables are tilted in their favor, of course.
>> 
>> I'm a little unclear as to whether he has a contract with the insurer or 
>> not. 
>> Is he dealing with his insurance or the at fault driver's insurance?
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Total my car

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

When I got a lowball offer on my 300D is burst out laughing, as I'd already 
bought a replacement at a significantly higher amount (3x if I remember 
correctly).

They paid the full amount of the purchase price of the replacement, minus 
salvage since I kept the hulk for parts.  

Definitely hold out for the upper end of the value range in Kelly Blue Book or 
similar.  Most insurance company adjusters don't understand the value holding 
ability of a well maintained Benz.

Peter
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Re: [MBZ] Total my car

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

If he is dealing with the other drivers insurance an arbitration clause would 
not apply to him I would not think. 

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> On Sep 26, 2017, at 6:26 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On September 26, 2017 at 7:12 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Court is most likely not an option, as nearly every insurer has an 
>> arbitration clause in their policy.  If it goes to arbitration you’ll get 
>> screwed as the tables are tilted in their favor, of course.
> 
> I'm a little unclear as to whether he has a contract with the insurer or not. 
> Is he dealing with his insurance or the at fault driver's insurance?
> 
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] Total my car

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Good question.  That would certainly make a difference.  I’m guessing it’s the 
other driver’s insurance, as if it were his insurer you would expect them to be 
advocating for him since they would be subrogating the claim anyway.

-D


> On Sep 26, 2017, at 7:26 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On September 26, 2017 at 7:12 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Court is most likely not an option, as nearly every insurer has an 
>> arbitration clause in their policy.  If it goes to arbitration you’ll get 
>> screwed as the tables are tilted in their favor, of course.
> 
> I'm a little unclear as to whether he has a contract with the insurer or not. 
> Is he dealing with his insurance or the at fault driver's insurance?
> 
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] Total my car

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On September 26, 2017 at 7:12 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Court is most likely not an option, as nearly every insurer has an 
> arbitration clause in their policy.  If it goes to arbitration you’ll get 
> screwed as the tables are tilted in their favor, of course.

I'm a little unclear as to whether he has a contract with the insurer or not. 
Is he dealing with his insurance or the at fault driver's insurance?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Total my car

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

And that’s the way to do it.

They want to get the claim paid out and closed as quickly as possible.  
However, do understand that they are subrogating the claim with the other 
carrier, meaning that the other carrier is the one on the hook and your insurer 
is paying out with the expectation that they will collect from the other 
carrier.

More time = more money.  Not something the insurer wants.

As it has been pointed out, do the following: 

Document, document, document.  The more proof of value you have the better and 
stronger your case is.  Pictures, receipts, etc., etc.  The more the merrier, 
and the stronger your case.  Do realize that if you spent more than the car is 
worth you’re not going to recover those dollars, they’re only going to give you 
what the market value would be and not include the money for the 22s you’re 
rolling, so to speak.

State your claim clearly and professionally, without emotion. Make your claims 
realistic based on the data you have collected.  Understand that they’re going 
to look at an average value and toss the outliers, so if you do have outliers, 
make sure they’re waaa out in order to shift the curve in your favor, if 
possible.

Court is most likely not an option, as nearly every insurer has an arbitration 
clause in their policy.  If it goes to arbitration you’ll get screwed as the 
tables are tilted in their favor, of course.

However, arbitration is timely and costly, two things they want to avoid, so 
it’s unlikely that it will go that far.

Remain firm with your claims, be reasonable and rational and you’ll get the 
settlement you want or darned close to it.  Time is on your side as they are 
under great pressure to close out claims and move on.

-D


> On Sep 26, 2017, at 2:29 AM, clay monroe via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I plan on waiting these bastards out for a long time.  It would be nice to 
> have an equitable settlement swiftly, but I have a few cars that will serve 
> until at least March or so.  I can pay the ransom and bring the car home.  It 
> is just a matter of reimbursement when they remove head from buttocks and 
> make me whole.
> 
> clay


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Re: [MBZ] Total my car

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

I plan on waiting these bastards out for a long time.  It would be nice to have 
an equitable settlement swiftly, but I have a few cars that will serve until at 
least March or so.  I can pay the ransom and bring the car home.  It is just a 
matter of reimbursement when they remove head from buttocks and make me whole.

clay

> On Sep 25, 2017, at 11:14 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> They're counting on stalling until YOU get tired of playing the game.  They
> will have internal pressure to retire the case as it gets old.  So, don't
> cave.  Don't accept their lowball valuation, you don't have to.  Remember,
> you're not in a no-fault state, so court's always an option!  You're not
> looking to get rich, you're looking to be "made whole."  As if it didn't
> happen.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Total my car

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

They're counting on stalling until YOU get tired of playing the game.  They
will have internal pressure to retire the case as it gets old.  So, don't
cave.  Don't accept their lowball valuation, you don't have to.  Remember,
you're not in a no-fault state, so court's always an option!  You're not
looking to get rich, you're looking to be "made whole."  As if it didn't
happen.

-- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] Total my car

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Hit the INSCO with all points...

Record of what you have in value in the car.
Value reports by various places, like Blue Book.
Comparative replacement value based on available market listings.. I would
go beyond the 500 mile radius even to gather "equal value listings of like
cars."

Then... write a demand letter stating your cars value, based on all the
above points.
All they can do is say ... OK, we tried to low ball you... Here is our new
offer..

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 9:16 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> So, I had a chat with the body shop boys.  Seems insco has a bug in bum to
> not repair Allen.  They give a lowball valuation that has not been
> disclosed, but i probably south of $3k, that does not take into account the
> $2900 I spent getting it all pretty with fresh paint, replaced seats and
> carpets, upgraded stereo, lighting, and making everything work for the most
> part.
>
> How should I deal with the adjuster?  Will they adjust value with all my
> receipts over past 6 months?   I have MBCA valuation from the buying
> guides.  NADA give a much higher value, as do a bunch of other websites.
>  Looking for replacements, I find either cars good only for parts at around
> $2k, or cars with other issues for 5-15k.   There are few to no comparable
> cars within 500 miles.  Kollyfurnyer has a few comparable.
>
>
>
> clay
>
> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
> 1986 SDL - Polei
> 1982 300 SD - Allen
>
> retired models-
> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
>
>
>
>
>
>
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[MBZ] Total my car

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

So, I had a chat with the body shop boys.  Seems insco has a bug in bum to not 
repair Allen.  They give a lowball valuation that has not been disclosed, but i 
probably south of $3k, that does not take into account the $2900 I spent 
getting it all pretty with fresh paint, replaced seats and carpets, upgraded 
stereo, lighting, and making everything work for the most part.  

How should I deal with the adjuster?  Will they adjust value with all my 
receipts over past 6 months?   I have MBCA valuation from the buying guides.  
NADA give a much higher value, as do a bunch of other websites.   Looking for 
replacements, I find either cars good only for parts at around $2k, or cars 
with other issues for 5-15k.   There are few to no comparable cars within 500 
miles.  Kollyfurnyer has a few comparable.



clay 

1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

retired models-
2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers








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