Re: [MBZ] Sigh. Again?
No shortage of potatoes there, for sure. -D > On Dec 29, 2023, at 3:31 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes > wrote: > > Great pics though, add a coupla $k to the value > > --FT > > On 12/29/23 3:23 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: >> Drop a zero or a 5 from the price and it might be interesting. >> >> On Fri, Dec 29, 2023, at 15:15, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: >>> This gets listed about every 1-2 months: >>> >>> https://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/d/winter-park-1967-mercedes-200d-diesel/7702350340.html >>> >>> -D >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archiveshttp://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archiveshttp://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > -- > --FT > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sigh. Again?
Great pics though, add a coupla $k to the value --FT On 12/29/23 3:23 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: Drop a zero or a 5 from the price and it might be interesting. On Fri, Dec 29, 2023, at 15:15, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: This gets listed about every 1-2 months: https://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/d/winter-park-1967-mercedes-200d-diesel/7702350340.html -D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archiveshttp://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archiveshttp://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sigh. Again?
Drop a zero or a 5 from the price and it might be interesting. On Fri, Dec 29, 2023, at 15:15, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > This gets listed about every 1-2 months: > > https://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/d/winter-park-1967-mercedes-200d-diesel/7702350340.html > > -D > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] *sigh* Advance...
I did actually. Fortunately we were going to dinner anyway... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sat, Jan 22, 2022 at 6:39 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: At least you didn’t drive up there to discover they didn’t have it… -D > On Jan 22, 2022, at 6:35 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > So I order online for that magnetic block heater. Advance's website says "in > stock, available in 30 minutes" I give the 4 hours and arrive to find that > they haven't gotten the order and don't have one. I get the part number, the > guy looks it up "we'll, we're supposed to have one." They spend some time > "looking around" before they confirm they really don't have one. > Then that's it, no offer to order one, no apology, no nothing. > Another in the long list of reasons Advance can suck it. > Curt > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] *sigh* Advance...
That’s too bad. I’ve got two Advance Autos within like five minutes of my house. The one I frequent (if you call every 2-3 months frequent) used to have a really good manager that I struck up a friendship with, but he left for a better job. It’s still pretty good depending on who is behind the counter. There are a couple of guys who have been there a while that are good, but the rest of the help wastes good air we could be breathing. I do like the fact that they have a 500 gallon waste oil tank, so no matter when I go there I can always drop off my waste oil. The other store nearby must have a 55 gallon drum or something, as the few times I’ve been by there they always have a sign on the door about the oil tank being full. There’s an Autozone even closer than the Advanced Autos, but I don’t particularly care for them as they rarely have spiffs for online orders like AZ has. -D > On Jan 22, 2022, at 6:55 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > I ordered some pushrods for my Ghia from Advance. Took a day or two to get > from the warehouse to local store, then I got the notice that they had > arrived and were ready to pick up. When I got to the store nobody had any > idea about my order or the parts. Finally they get a manager to come over and > they did have the order, it was on a shelf right behind the checkout counter. > None of the staff apparently had any idea how anything worked with special > orders. At least in my case I did get the parts, after 15 or 20 minutes of > them fooling around. > > > On Sat, Jan 22, 2022, at 6:46 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: >> Wow. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jan 22, 2022, at 5:36 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> So I order online for that magnetic block heater. Advance's website says >>> "in stock, available in 30 minutes" I give the 4 hours and arrive to find >>> that they haven't gotten the order and don't have one. I get the part >>> number, the guy looks it up "we'll, we're supposed to have one." They spend >>> some time "looking around" before they confirm they really don't have one. >>> Then that's it, no offer to order one, no apology, no nothing. >>> Another in the long list of reasons Advance can suck it. >>> Curt >>> >>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] *sigh* Advance...
I ordered some pushrods for my Ghia from Advance. Took a day or two to get from the warehouse to local store, then I got the notice that they had arrived and were ready to pick up. When I got to the store nobody had any idea about my order or the parts. Finally they get a manager to come over and they did have the order, it was on a shelf right behind the checkout counter. None of the staff apparently had any idea how anything worked with special orders. At least in my case I did get the parts, after 15 or 20 minutes of them fooling around. On Sat, Jan 22, 2022, at 6:46 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > Wow. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jan 22, 2022, at 5:36 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> So I order online for that magnetic block heater. Advance's website says >> "in stock, available in 30 minutes" I give the 4 hours and arrive to find >> that they haven't gotten the order and don't have one. I get the part >> number, the guy looks it up "we'll, we're supposed to have one." They spend >> some time "looking around" before they confirm they really don't have one. >> Then that's it, no offer to order one, no apology, no nothing. >> Another in the long list of reasons Advance can suck it. >> Curt >> >> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] *sigh* Advance...
Wow. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 22, 2022, at 5:36 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > So I order online for that magnetic block heater. Advance's website says "in > stock, available in 30 minutes" I give the 4 hours and arrive to find that > they haven't gotten the order and don't have one. I get the part number, the > guy looks it up "we'll, we're supposed to have one." They spend some time > "looking around" before they confirm they really don't have one. > Then that's it, no offer to order one, no apology, no nothing. > Another in the long list of reasons Advance can suck it. > Curt > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] *sigh* Advance...
At least you didn’t drive up there to discover they didn’t have it… -D > On Jan 22, 2022, at 6:35 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > So I order online for that magnetic block heater. Advance's website says "in > stock, available in 30 minutes" I give the 4 hours and arrive to find that > they haven't gotten the order and don't have one. I get the part number, the > guy looks it up "we'll, we're supposed to have one." They spend some time > "looking around" before they confirm they really don't have one. > Then that's it, no offer to order one, no apology, no nothing. > Another in the long list of reasons Advance can suck it. > Curt > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] *sigh*
Ahh but see the floor in the front isn't wet because every other year I renew the silicone and it holds the seal. In the rear the trunk floor isn't wet because its fiberglassed... The metal back there hasn't been wet in 7 years... If you saw the car you'd know anything I do is a losing battle. All I'm fighting is a delaying action to keep the car going another year or two (which I said 2 years ago when I got it) to get my maximum return out of a very cheap car. At this point we're probably talking $1800 I've put in it and I've driven it 25,000 or so miles... Its pretty hard to beat that. -Curt Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 19:55:53 -0500 From: Peter Frederick To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] *sigh* Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed It will last a decade longer without the floor being wet and rusting away. peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] *sigh*
It will last a decade longer without the floor being wet and rusting away. peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] *sigh*
Nice idea, but not on a $400 car. I'll just keep driving it until something major fails at which point I get a new car. I drive 110 miles a day, I hate to have a nice car because I'll just ruin it. Having a lousy car is kind of nice, every time I fix something thats been broken for awhile I actually make the car more valuable... A good seal on the front would fix the leak I think (it leaks at the glass not the metal) but the last one cost me $200... -Curt Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 17:19:39 -0500 From: Peter Frederick To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] *sigh* Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Time for new gaskets and proper repair of the body lip. They should not, in fact, leak at all. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] *sigh*
Time for new gaskets and proper repair of the body lip. They should not, in fact, leak at all. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] *sigh*
Yes, I'm familiar with it - too familiar; Lincoln, NE, 3 yrs, MI UP 4 yrs, Greenland 1 yr, CA Sierras and San Gabriels - even here (Eastern NC) , but luckily only occasionally here and short-lived. ;<)) Wilton - Original Message - From: "Curt Raymond" To: "Diesel List" Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 2:06 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] *sigh* Yeah you know, white stuff that falls from the sky... Last week it was 90 this week it snows. Normal New England weather. Keeps you guessing. -Curt Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 10:30:40 -0400 From: "WILTON" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Subject: Re: [MBZ] *sigh* Message-ID: <5a1e9133a3d74d1691f19600cfb78...@wiltonpc> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original SNOWED?%! ;< Wilton - Original Message - From: "Curt Raymond" To: "Diesel List" Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 9:32 AM Subject: [MBZ] *sigh* The rear windshield on my '83 240D has a leaky seal. Its been like that forever, I just make sure the trunk drains are clear... The front windshield seal is apparently not of terrific quality because although its not real old it likes to leak around the bottom of the glass. Every couple years I seal it down and apparently it needs doing again. We've had a run of nice weather so I've been leaving the windows open a little during the day so the car can dry out. Well last night I forgot and left 'em open all night and it rained/snowed... DRAT! -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] *sigh*
Welcome to "global warming!" Glad to hear you are enjoying a heat wave! SNOWED?%! ;< Wilton - Original Message - From: "Curt Raymond" To: "Diesel List" Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 9:32 AM Subject: [MBZ] *sigh* The rear windshield on my '83 240D has a leaky seal. Its been like that forever, I just make sure the trunk drains are clear... The front windshield seal is apparently not of terrific quality because although its not real old it likes to leak around the bottom of the glass. Every couple years I seal it down and apparently it needs doing again. We've had a run of nice weather so I've been leaving the windows open a little during the day so the car can dry out. Well last night I forgot and left 'em open all night and it rained/snowed... DRAT! -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] *sigh*
Right-we didn't have snow in southern RI but I had to scrape frost off the 240D yesterday. Two weeks ago we had floods. Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles. 1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles. Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 2:06 PM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] *sigh* Yeah you know, white stuff that falls from the sky... Last week it was 90 this week it snows. Normal New England weather. Keeps you guessing. -Curt Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 10:30:40 -0400 From: "WILTON" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Subject: Re: [MBZ] *sigh* Message-ID: <5a1e9133a3d74d1691f19600cfb78...@wiltonpc> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original SNOWED?%! ;< Wilton - Original Message - From: "Curt Raymond" To: "Diesel List" Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 9:32 AM Subject: [MBZ] *sigh* > The rear windshield on my '83 240D has a leaky seal. Its been like that > forever, I just make sure the trunk drains are clear... > The front windshield seal is apparently not of terrific quality because > although its not real old it likes to leak around the bottom of the glass. > Every couple years I seal it down and apparently it needs doing again. > We've had a run of nice weather so I've been leaving the windows open a > little during the day so the car can dry out. Well last night I forgot and > left 'em open all night and it rained/snowed... > > DRAT! > > -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] *sigh*
Yeah you know, white stuff that falls from the sky... Last week it was 90 this week it snows. Normal New England weather. Keeps you guessing. -Curt Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 10:30:40 -0400 From: "WILTON" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Subject: Re: [MBZ] *sigh* Message-ID: <5a1e9133a3d74d1691f19600cfb78...@wiltonpc> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original SNOWED?%! ;< Wilton - Original Message - From: "Curt Raymond" To: "Diesel List" Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 9:32 AM Subject: [MBZ] *sigh* > The rear windshield on my '83 240D has a leaky seal. Its been like that > forever, I just make sure the trunk drains are clear... > The front windshield seal is apparently not of terrific quality because > although its not real old it likes to leak around the bottom of the glass. > Every couple years I seal it down and apparently it needs doing again. > We've had a run of nice weather so I've been leaving the windows open a > little during the day so the car can dry out. Well last night I forgot and > left 'em open all night and it rained/snowed... > > DRAT! > > -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] *sigh*
WILTON wrote: SNOWED?%! ;< It got down to 60 and rained last night here. I think it hit 84 yesterday afternoon. Tonight it'll be in the 20s. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] *sigh*
SNOWED?%! ;< Wilton - Original Message - From: "Curt Raymond" To: "Diesel List" Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 9:32 AM Subject: [MBZ] *sigh* The rear windshield on my '83 240D has a leaky seal. Its been like that forever, I just make sure the trunk drains are clear... The front windshield seal is apparently not of terrific quality because although its not real old it likes to leak around the bottom of the glass. Every couple years I seal it down and apparently it needs doing again. We've had a run of nice weather so I've been leaving the windows open a little during the day so the car can dry out. Well last night I forgot and left 'em open all night and it rained/snowed... DRAT! -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] *sigh*
Yup, something light, I forget. They seem to work well, took a little getting used to though. I think the alternator belt is pretty good now, no squeals on the way to work with the heater on high. This one never used to squeal when I owned it back in the day. The belt is new last month... -Curt Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 21:13:40 -0500 From: "Dwight E. Giles, Jr" To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" Subject: Re: [MBZ] *sigh* Message-ID: <003e01caa92d$7f727370$7e575a...@net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Curt. I have used Sylvania Performance bulbs in both of my 240D's- aren't they called Starlight or something like that-better than the regular ones-but without the hassle of Euro conversion . The alternator belt on this 240D is never right-my other one squealed in the in the wet after few thousand miles-this one seems to squeal no matter how I or my Indy adjust it. Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles.? 1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles. Wickford, RI ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] *sigh* Spare Tire
On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 20:09:34 -0600 OK Don wrote: > On the other hand, that's what trunk racks are for on roadsters > either the luggage or the spare tire! And the spare tire can take rain a lot better than luggage! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] *sigh* Spare Tire
I would really like an MGA - neighbor has one rotting away in his drive way, I think it is a 56. Was in his garage but he moved it out to store more books in his garage. When he moved it out he was going to get it fixed so I got it running but that was 5 years ago. In case your wondering, he is a PhD. On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 8:09 PM, OK Don wrote: > I've had two instances of flat tires that I remember - one was in the MGA > in > I-35 in rush traffic, not fun, but too bad - I was running tubeless > Michelins on tube rims, with a tube. The inside of the tires rubbed a hole > in the tube. > The second was in our van, with the whole family, on a back road in western > Nebraska - no one around. No cars passed while I emptied the rear of the > van > to get the jack, etc., change the tire, put everything back, get on the > road. Something had sliced the sidewall - I never saw it, but did know when > it happened. I doubt there was cell coverage in the area - at least at that > time. I was glad I had a good, inflated, spare then. > Bottom line, I guess it depends on where you're driving - if in a well > populated, safe, area, then the risk could be acceptable. > > On the other hand, that's what trunk racks are for on roadsters either > the luggage or the spare tire! > > > > -- > OK Don > Panic! (the national past time). > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] *sigh*
Curt. I have used Sylvania Performance bulbs in both of my 240D's- aren't they called Starlight or something like that-better than the regular ones-but without the hassle of Euro conversion . The alternator belt on this 240D is never right-my other one squealed in the in the wet after few thousand miles-this one seems to squeal no matter how I or my Indy adjust it. Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles. 1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles. Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 8:32 PM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] *sigh* Hear hear! I think everybody should have a super cheap car at some point, it builds character. Tonight I tightened the alternator belt on my 240D AGAIN. I think I've finally gotten it in the right place. Too loose and it squeals, too tight and it rubs on the tensioner... The other night we went to dinner and had a headlight out. No big deal I put the fog lights on. Turns out we had the right side headlight out and the left side fog light! The NH state policeman was very nice to me when he pulled me over... Now its got Sylvania "Performance" bulbs. Brighter than the old ones but with very abrupt drop off. I may adjust them up slightly... -Curt Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 07:04:57 -0800 From: Jim Cathey To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] *sigh* Message-ID: <51f436a9-14c3-11df-82e8-000502d9a...@windwireless.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > rectify. Just the thought of the damage I would do to the block and > head scares the bejezzus out of me. You, sir, need a cheaper car! For me that's what the Frankenheap was: a car so cheap that I didn't have any excuse whatsoever not to just try crap on it. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I've had two instances of flat tires that I remember - one was in the MGA in I-35 in rush traffic, not fun, but too bad - I was running tubeless Michelins on tube rims, with a tube. The inside of the tires rubbed a hole in the tube. The second was in our van, with the whole family, on a back road in western Nebraska - no one around. No cars passed while I emptied the rear of the van to get the jack, etc., change the tire, put everything back, get on the road. Something had sliced the sidewall - I never saw it, but did know when it happened. I doubt there was cell coverage in the area - at least at that time. I was glad I had a good, inflated, spare then. Bottom line, I guess it depends on where you're driving - if in a well populated, safe, area, then the risk could be acceptable. On the other hand, that's what trunk racks are for on roadsters either the luggage or the spare tire! -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Remember that although I have a garage its full of junk so I end up working on the apron in front of it... Remember we're all pulling for you. Well okay Roger probably isn't but the rest of us are! -Curt Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:49:37 -0800 From: Redghost To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] *sigh* Message-ID: <92d40d4c-8df1-4d0d-a111-50e7a3981...@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes OK! I am a wuss about it and will now STFU and drag my dang tools kit out and rip into her. clay On Feb 8, 2010, at 2:34 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: > You don't have a shade tree? > > You can rent an engine lift pretty reasonably. I probably wouldn't > hesitate to do a head gasket on my '83 240D, your car has to be > simpler than mine... > > -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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No place to store. I used to have an engine stand, but had to get rid of it because I had no place to actually store or work on any engine that was on it. Too much rain to work on engines outside clay On Feb 8, 2010, at 5:23 PM, Allan Streib wrote: Places like Pep Boys etc. often sell Chinese-made engine cranes and stands for about that price, or less. Typically if you need one more than a couple of times it's cheaper to buy than rent, if you have a place to store it. Allan -- 1983 300D On Mon, 08 Feb 2010 17:02 -0600, "R A Bennell" wrote: You can likely buy an engine lift for $150 new and even cheaper on Craigs list or something similar. Handy things to have around for all sorts of things and most will now fold up enough not to take over the garage. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I'm tempted too, I've changed 3 tires, only 1 was mine. I picked up a nail at 90mph on RT95 in Maine. It didn't blow but was quite exciting as it deflated. My wife had a flat in our driveway but didn't notice it until she drove it off the rim 300 yards later. I think I'll keep the spare on the pickup as a flat in the backcountry would be a big problem but I might ditch the one in the 240D as I'm not sure it even has air in it... -Curt Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 11:45:50 -0600 From: Peter Hertzing To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] *sigh* Spare Tire Message-ID: <3a3393481002080945j6a2e853j853f9b9d3d29...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I have been thinking about this very subject. IN the past 1.5 million miles of driving, limos and otherwise, I have had 1 flat tire - in my driveway. I am dilligent about walking around the car before leaving, and fequently checking tire pressure. What do you think? In my miata I am thinking about doing away with the spare. During the same period I have had a limo towed for overheating, (I wasn't driving it), a volvo 740 towed for fuel pump failure, my benz has been through a tranny but no tow required. What I'm getting at, is I no longer think that tires are any more likely to need replacement on the road then many other parts. We don't carry a spare radiator or fuel pump (unless driving a british car). What does the collective group think? With cell phones you just call and get it fixed. I recognize that you do run the risk of a $10 flat turning into a 100 repair. Thoughts? Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Hear hear! I think everybody should have a super cheap car at some point, it builds character. Tonight I tightened the alternator belt on my 240D AGAIN. I think I've finally gotten it in the right place. Too loose and it squeals, too tight and it rubs on the tensioner... The other night we went to dinner and had a headlight out. No big deal I put the fog lights on. Turns out we had the right side headlight out and the left side fog light! The NH state policeman was very nice to me when he pulled me over... Now its got Sylvania "Performance" bulbs. Brighter than the old ones but with very abrupt drop off. I may adjust them up slightly... -Curt Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 07:04:57 -0800 From: Jim Cathey To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] *sigh* Message-ID: <51f436a9-14c3-11df-82e8-000502d9a...@windwireless.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > rectify. Just the thought of the damage I would do to the block and > head scares the bejezzus out of me. You, sir, need a cheaper car! For me that's what the Frankenheap was: a car so cheap that I didn't have any excuse whatsoever not to just try crap on it. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Ah. The real bluetec ones use the spare tire well for the adblue (aqueous urea solution) tank. -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Feb 8, 2010, at 16:13, Redghost wrote: The real bluetec may not, but this thing had a full size spare in the trunk. No leather, just Tex seats. Rode nice. Gump would ride nice with good rear shocks clay On Feb 8, 2010, at 9:17 AM, John Reames wrote: Bluetec benzes have no spare (or space for one), and require run- flats. -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Feb 8, 2010, at 2:05, Redghost wrote: The timing chain was replaced about 30k miles ago. I better get on the ball for the head. SWMBA went out looking at cars today. Drove a jetta wagon TDI and then hit the benz shop and drove an 08 E blutec. I would prefer the benz, but then, I would much prefer just using a fraction of the cash to put Gump back on the road. Who in his right mind is willing to fork over $50k, when 2% of that would do fine to make what is already in the stable good? No path to riches in a two year old car, when a 38 year old one is already paid for. clay On Feb 7, 2010, at 2:04 PM, John Reames wrote: I've r&r a 617 head with manifolds and turbo without chains, a cherry-picker, or a hoist. I put the hood straight up, used some sturdy rope through the liftig eyes, put a 2x6 under the rope, stood on one side of the car and had someone else on the other. The r&r was to replace the head gasket; the DPO put the green stuff in the radiator, and whenever it got good and hot it would weep out the passenger side. For reassembly I invested in some metric all-thread and rounded the top ends nicely; one piece at each end of the block, on opposite sides. Make sure that the all-thread is at least 2-3 inches longer than the longest head bolt. BTW, pulling the head is a GREAT opportunity to replace the timing chain, if needed. Even on a gasser, it can make an improvement. -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Feb 6, 2010, at 22:57, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: You DON'T need a "cherry picker" to R&R the head. Just simple hand tools, and some thought as you go. I've not done a 103 head. Does it have the "trisquare" headbolts as in the 603? If so, the most exotic tools you need are the socket for the headbolts and a 1/2" breaker bar. (and a torque wrench for the headbolts on reassembly.) I bought a cherry picker from the itenerant version of Harbor Freight with folding legs so I can shove it in a corner of what's left of the garage (all but the front 6 feet are now another room of the house). I swap engines, etc. in the drive in front of the garage door -- but then again, this is Okie land. On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 9:19 PM, Redghost wrote: Yeah, but I have no cherry picker or place to do the work. The blower/dash job was at FiL using his shop and three of us swinging wrenches. I am not going to drive Gump to Vancouver to get to the shop, nor can I make it to Arlington where my BiL does his work. He likes to build jeep crawlers, and would be great for this job. clay -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _
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Places like Pep Boys etc. often sell Chinese-made engine cranes and stands for about that price, or less. Typically if you need one more than a couple of times it's cheaper to buy than rent, if you have a place to store it. Allan -- 1983 300D On Mon, 08 Feb 2010 17:02 -0600, "R A Bennell" wrote: > You can likely buy an engine lift for $150 new and even cheaper on > Craigs list or something similar. Handy things to have around for > all sorts of things and most will now fold up enough not to take > over the garage. > > Randy > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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oops at least a gallon of washer fluid and a change of fuel filters in the trunk. I suppose with runflats it might be different... The difference is that environmental conditions can cause a catastrophic tire failure with little to no warning... Likewise they can plug a fuel filter... But that's just me -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Feb 8, 2010, at 12:45, Peter Hertzing wrote: I have been thinking about this very subject. IN the past 1.5 million miles of driving, limos and otherwise, I have had 1 flat tire - in my driveway. I am dilligent about walking around the car before leaving, and fequently checking tire pressure. What do you think? In my miata I am thinking about doing away with the spare. During the same period I have had a limo towed for overheating, (I wasn't driving it), a volvo 740 towed for fuel pump failure, my benz has been through a tranny but no tow required. What I'm getting at, is I no longer think that tires are any more likely to need replacement on the road then many other parts. We don't carry a spare radiator or fuel pump (unless driving a british car). What does the collective group think? With cell phones you just call and get it fixed. I recognize that you do run the risk of a $10 flat turning into a 100 repair. Thoughts? Peter On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 11:17 AM, John Reames wrote: Bluetec benzes have no spare (or space for one), and require run- flats. -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Feb 8, 2010, at 2:05, Redghost wrote: The timing chain was replaced about 30k miles ago. I better get on the ball for the head. SWMBA went out looking at cars today. Drove a jetta wagon TDI and then hit the benz shop and drove an 08 E blutec. I would prefer the benz, but then, I would much prefer just using a fraction of the cash to put Gump back on the road. Who in his right mind is willing to fork over $50k, when 2% of that would do fine to make what is already in the stable good? No path to riches in a two year old car, when a 38 year old one is already paid for. clay On Feb 7, 2010, at 2:04 PM, John Reames wrote: I've r&r a 617 head with manifolds and turbo without chains, a cherry-picker, or a hoist. I put the hood straight up, used some sturdy rope through the liftig eyes, put a 2x6 under the rope, stood on one side of the car and had someone else on the other. The r&r was to replace the head gasket; the DPO put the green stuff in the radiator, and whenever it got good and hot it would weep out the passenger side. For reassembly I invested in some metric all-thread and rounded the top ends nicely; one piece at each end of the block, on opposite sides. Make sure that the all-thread is at least 2-3 inches longer than the longest head bolt. BTW, pulling the head is a GREAT opportunity to replace the timing chain, if needed. Even on a gasser, it can make an improvement. -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Feb 6, 2010, at 22:57, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: You DON'T need a "cherry picker" to R&R the head. Just simple hand tools, and some thought as you go. I've not done a 103 head. Does it have the "trisquare" headbolts as in the 603? If so, the most exotic tools you need are the socket for the headbolts and a 1/2" breaker bar. (and a torque wrench for the headbolts on reassembly.) I bought a cherry picker from the itenerant version of Harbor Freight with folding legs so I can shove it in a corner of what's left of the garage (all but the front 6 feet are now another room of the house). I swap engines, etc. in the drive in front of the garage door -- but then again, this is Okie land. On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 9:19 PM, Redghost wrote: Yeah, but I have no cherry picker or place to do the work. The blower/dash job was at FiL using his shop and three of us swinging wrenches. I am not going to drive Gump to Vancouver to get to the shop, nor can I make it to Arlington where my BiL does his work. He likes to build jeep crawlers, and would be great for this job. clay -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://
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The one and only flat that I ever had was a result of an edger blade flopping off the trailer (landscaping co.) ahead of me, and my being unable to miss it. It went in corner first and put a 8" long slice right up the center of the tread... I know it was an edger blade, as it was half-out of the tire when I changed it. I include checking the air pressure in the spare, making sure there is at least one extra monowiper blade and at l -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Feb 8, 2010, at 12:45, Peter Hertzing wrote: I have been thinking about this very subject. IN the past 1.5 million miles of driving, limos and otherwise, I have had 1 flat tire - in my driveway. I am dilligent about walking around the car before leaving, and fequently checking tire pressure. What do you think? In my miata I am thinking about doing away with the spare. During the same period I have had a limo towed for overheating, (I wasn't driving it), a volvo 740 towed for fuel pump failure, my benz has been through a tranny but no tow required. What I'm getting at, is I no longer think that tires are any more likely to need replacement on the road then many other parts. We don't carry a spare radiator or fuel pump (unless driving a british car). What does the collective group think? With cell phones you just call and get it fixed. I recognize that you do run the risk of a $10 flat turning into a 100 repair. Thoughts? Peter On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 11:17 AM, John Reames wrote: Bluetec benzes have no spare (or space for one), and require run- flats. -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Feb 8, 2010, at 2:05, Redghost wrote: The timing chain was replaced about 30k miles ago. I better get on the ball for the head. SWMBA went out looking at cars today. Drove a jetta wagon TDI and then hit the benz shop and drove an 08 E blutec. I would prefer the benz, but then, I would much prefer just using a fraction of the cash to put Gump back on the road. Who in his right mind is willing to fork over $50k, when 2% of that would do fine to make what is already in the stable good? No path to riches in a two year old car, when a 38 year old one is already paid for. clay On Feb 7, 2010, at 2:04 PM, John Reames wrote: I've r&r a 617 head with manifolds and turbo without chains, a cherry-picker, or a hoist. I put the hood straight up, used some sturdy rope through the liftig eyes, put a 2x6 under the rope, stood on one side of the car and had someone else on the other. The r&r was to replace the head gasket; the DPO put the green stuff in the radiator, and whenever it got good and hot it would weep out the passenger side. For reassembly I invested in some metric all-thread and rounded the top ends nicely; one piece at each end of the block, on opposite sides. Make sure that the all-thread is at least 2-3 inches longer than the longest head bolt. BTW, pulling the head is a GREAT opportunity to replace the timing chain, if needed. Even on a gasser, it can make an improvement. -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Feb 6, 2010, at 22:57, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: You DON'T need a "cherry picker" to R&R the head. Just simple hand tools, and some thought as you go. I've not done a 103 head. Does it have the "trisquare" headbolts as in the 603? If so, the most exotic tools you need are the socket for the headbolts and a 1/2" breaker bar. (and a torque wrench for the headbolts on reassembly.) I bought a cherry picker from the itenerant version of Harbor Freight with folding legs so I can shove it in a corner of what's left of the garage (all but the front 6 feet are now another room of the house). I swap engines, etc. in the drive in front of the garage door -- but then again, this is Okie land. On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 9:19 PM, Redghost wrote: Yeah, but I have no cherry picker or place to do the work. The blower/dash job was at FiL using his shop and three of us swinging wrenches. I am not going to drive Gump to Vancouver to get to the shop, nor can I make it to Arlington where my BiL does his work. He likes to build jeep crawlers, and would be great for this job. clay -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___
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You don't need any lift to remove a head. Just get it loose, put rags or cardboard on top of the radiator mount, set it there, then move around the car and pick it up and carry it to the bench or where ever you are going. If you have a helper, just pick it up and hand it to the helper. a 4 cyl cast iron head is maybe 40 lb. A 5 cyl head would be about 50 lb. I am a lot more concerned about keeping the motor oil off me than the weight of the head. You don't have a shade tree? You can rent an engine lift pretty reasonably. I probably wouldn't hesitate to do a head gasket on my '83 240D, your car has to be simpler than mine... -Curt Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 19:19:56 -0800 From: Redghost To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] *sigh* Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Yeah, but I have no cherry picker or place to do the work. The blower/ dash job was at FiL using his shop and three of us swinging wrenches. I am not going to drive Gump to Vancouver to get to the shop, nor can I make it to Arlington where my BiL does his work. He likes to build jeep crawlers, and would be great for this job. clay On Feb 6, 2010, at 4:58 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: headgasket blowed out on Gump. If I can snag a $400 motor... Why not just put in a new gasket? If you can do a dashboard, you should be able to do a head gasket. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I actually wish i would have kept the POS SDL, It should have been put back on the road, but the guy who got it parted it out. Was a shame. Redghost wrote: You are just being mean because I sold you the POS SDL and I will never be in your good graces for just that reason clay -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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You can likely buy an engine lift for $150 new and even cheaper on Craigs list or something similar. Handy things to have around for all sorts of things and most will now fold up enough not to take over the garage. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 4:35 PM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] *sigh* You don't have a shade tree? You can rent an engine lift pretty reasonably. I probably wouldn't hesitate to do a head gasket on my '83 240D, your car has to be simpler than mine... -Curt Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 19:19:56 -0800 From: Redghost To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] *sigh* Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Yeah, but I have no cherry picker or place to do the work. The blower/ dash job was at FiL using his shop and three of us swinging wrenches. I am not going to drive Gump to Vancouver to get to the shop, nor can I make it to Arlington where my BiL does his work. He likes to build jeep crawlers, and would be great for this job. clay On Feb 6, 2010, at 4:58 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: >> headgasket blowed out on Gump. If I can snag a $400 motor... > > Why not just put in a new gasket? If you can do a dashboard, > you should be able to do a head gasket. > > -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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OK! I am a wuss about it and will now STFU and drag my dang tools kit out and rip into her. clay On Feb 8, 2010, at 2:34 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: You don't have a shade tree? You can rent an engine lift pretty reasonably. I probably wouldn't hesitate to do a head gasket on my '83 240D, your car has to be simpler than mine... -Curt Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 19:19:56 -0800 From: Redghost To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] *sigh* Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Yeah, but I have no cherry picker or place to do the work. The blower/ dash job was at FiL using his shop and three of us swinging wrenches. I am not going to drive Gump to Vancouver to get to the shop, nor can I make it to Arlington where my BiL does his work. He likes to build jeep crawlers, and would be great for this job. clay On Feb 6, 2010, at 4:58 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: headgasket blowed out on Gump. If I can snag a $400 motor... Why not just put in a new gasket? If you can do a dashboard, you should be able to do a head gasket. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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It was what the logo on the trunk said it was. Not sure if salesman really knew that much about real v. purported donkey urine powered car clay On Feb 8, 2010, at 1:16 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Have used car salesmen started calling all CDIs, or all 320CDIs, Blutec now? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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You don't have a shade tree? You can rent an engine lift pretty reasonably. I probably wouldn't hesitate to do a head gasket on my '83 240D, your car has to be simpler than mine... -Curt Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 19:19:56 -0800 From: Redghost To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] *sigh* Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Yeah, but I have no cherry picker or place to do the work. The blower/ dash job was at FiL using his shop and three of us swinging wrenches. I am not going to drive Gump to Vancouver to get to the shop, nor can I make it to Arlington where my BiL does his work. He likes to build jeep crawlers, and would be great for this job. clay On Feb 6, 2010, at 4:58 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: >> headgasket blowed out on Gump. If I can snag a $400 motor... > > Why not just put in a new gasket? If you can do a dashboard, > you should be able to do a head gasket. > > -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Have used car salesmen started calling all CDIs, or all 320CDIs, Blutec now? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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The real bluetec may not, but this thing had a full size spare in the trunk. No leather, just Tex seats. Rode nice. Gump would ride nice with good rear shocks clay On Feb 8, 2010, at 9:17 AM, John Reames wrote: Bluetec benzes have no spare (or space for one), and require run- flats. -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Feb 8, 2010, at 2:05, Redghost wrote: The timing chain was replaced about 30k miles ago. I better get on the ball for the head. SWMBA went out looking at cars today. Drove a jetta wagon TDI and then hit the benz shop and drove an 08 E blutec. I would prefer the benz, but then, I would much prefer just using a fraction of the cash to put Gump back on the road. Who in his right mind is willing to fork over $50k, when 2% of that would do fine to make what is already in the stable good? No path to riches in a two year old car, when a 38 year old one is already paid for. clay On Feb 7, 2010, at 2:04 PM, John Reames wrote: I've r&r a 617 head with manifolds and turbo without chains, a cherry-picker, or a hoist. I put the hood straight up, used some sturdy rope through the liftig eyes, put a 2x6 under the rope, stood on one side of the car and had someone else on the other. The r&r was to replace the head gasket; the DPO put the green stuff in the radiator, and whenever it got good and hot it would weep out the passenger side. For reassembly I invested in some metric all-thread and rounded the top ends nicely; one piece at each end of the block, on opposite sides. Make sure that the all-thread is at least 2-3 inches longer than the longest head bolt. BTW, pulling the head is a GREAT opportunity to replace the timing chain, if needed. Even on a gasser, it can make an improvement. -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Feb 6, 2010, at 22:57, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: You DON'T need a "cherry picker" to R&R the head. Just simple hand tools, and some thought as you go. I've not done a 103 head. Does it have the "trisquare" headbolts as in the 603? If so, the most exotic tools you need are the socket for the headbolts and a 1/2" breaker bar. (and a torque wrench for the headbolts on reassembly.) I bought a cherry picker from the itenerant version of Harbor Freight with folding legs so I can shove it in a corner of what's left of the garage (all but the front 6 feet are now another room of the house). I swap engines, etc. in the drive in front of the garage door -- but then again, this is Okie land. On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 9:19 PM, Redghost wrote: Yeah, but I have no cherry picker or place to do the work. The blower/dash job was at FiL using his shop and three of us swinging wrenches. I am not going to drive Gump to Vancouver to get to the shop, nor can I make it to Arlington where my BiL does his work. He likes to build jeep crawlers, and would be great for this job. clay -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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That WAS Gump, but with age and the more I put in her, the more attached to having her running I became. I think I am hitting the tipping point where I will have to begin insuring her for collision and comprehensive Unless I sell her and all her trailer loads of spare part On Feb 8, 2010, at 7:04 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: rectify. Just the thought of the damage I would do to the block and head scares the bejezzus out of me. You, sir, need a cheaper car! For me that's what the Frankenheap was: a car so cheap that I didn't have any excuse whatsoever not to just try crap on it. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 7:04 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: > For me that's what the Frankenheap > was: a car so cheap that I didn't have any excuse whatsoever not > to just try crap on it. > That describes my $500 POS 300E, too. I never would have had the gumption to simply drill out the jammed trunk lock, the way I did on the 300E, on my '87 300D which cost much more to begin with and has had lots of expensive work done on it---would have been afraid of scratching the paint, putting a hole through the trunk lid, or something. Next the 300E gets the fenders rolled and 500E wheels put on---just because I found some of the latter on CL, with good tires, for less than the price of the tires alone from Tire Rack (Pirelli 7000 Supersports, a few years old but kept in a climate-controlled storage unit with no apparent cracking). Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I agree with it all. actually - in the E320 wagon. I hate that there is really no place to store tools, I think a good tool kit instead of a spare tire in that rear would more likely be used then the spare, but I digress. The real point is my Miata. removing the spare would give me enough trunk space to two pairs of undeware. Wife and I are thinking of going to the Florida Keys for a little trip without the kids. Would like to bring the miata but the trunk leaves a little to be desired when it comes to our stuff. The maita only has a donut anyway, and full spare would take up the rest of the trunk. On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: > E M wrote: > >> if my Dad is using one of the cars, I don't like the idea of him at the >> side >> of the road, jacking up a car and making himself a target for other cars >> driving by. >> > > This one didn't stay parked long. Note that the tires are on the shoulder, > but the driver's mirror may have been a few inches over the line. Also note > that the semi is entirely on the shoulder right after the crash: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zpKOD0cTs4 > > I like this one: "Just like that, just like, what did I tell you?" > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYqvvK8QZWQ > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: On the other hand, a flat tire in hostile territory at the wrong time might be really uncomfortable/expensive. What will you gain that is worth the risk? I knew a guy who had a flat tire in a HUD housing project after dark. He had a good spare in the trunk. He drove 4 miles on the rim to get far away from there, and then he mounted the spare. The wheel he took off was not salvageable. New rims are cheaper than getting mugged. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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E M wrote: if my Dad is using one of the cars, I don't like the idea of him at the side of the road, jacking up a car and making himself a target for other cars driving by. This one didn't stay parked long. Note that the tires are on the shoulder, but the driver's mirror may have been a few inches over the line. Also note that the semi is entirely on the shoulder right after the crash: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zpKOD0cTs4 I like this one: "Just like that, just like, what did I tell you?" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYqvvK8QZWQ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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You could compromise, and just carry the rim. Saves weight and space, and if you really need a new tire you can take the rim and have a tire mounted rather than require a tow and then purchase of a rim and a tire or a tire alone if sufficient. On the other hand, a flat tire in hostile territory at the wrong time might be really uncomfortable/expensive. What will you gain that is worth the risk? -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Peter Hertzing Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 12:46 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] *sigh* Spare Tire I have been thinking about this very subject. IN the past 1.5 million miles of driving, limos and otherwise, I have had 1 flat tire - in my driveway. I am dilligent about walking around the car before leaving, and fequently checking tire pressure. What do you think? In my miata I am thinking about doing away with the spare. During the same period I have had a limo towed for overheating, (I wasn't driving it), a volvo 740 towed for fuel pump failure, my benz has been through a tranny but no tow required. What I'm getting at, is I no longer think that tires are any more likely to need replacement on the road then many other parts. We don't carry a spare radiator or fuel pump (unless driving a british car). What does the collective group think? With cell phones you just call and get it fixed. I recognize that you do run the risk of a $10 flat turning into a 100 repair. Thoughts? Peter On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 11:17 AM, John Reames wrote: > Bluetec benzes have no spare (or space for one), and require run-flats. > > -- > John W Reames > jwrea...@comcast.net > Home: +14106646986 > Mobile: +14437915905 > > On Feb 8, 2010, at 2:05, Redghost wrote: > > The timing chain was replaced about 30k miles ago. >> >> I better get on the ball for the head. SWMBA went out looking at >> cars today. Drove a jetta wagon TDI and then hit the benz shop and drove an 08 E >> blutec. I would prefer the benz, but then, I would much prefer just using >> a fraction of the cash to put Gump back on the road. Who in his >> right mind is willing to fork over $50k, when 2% of that would do >> fine to make what is already in the stable good? No path to riches >> in a two year old car, when a >> 38 year old one is already paid for. >> >> clay >> >> >> >> >> On Feb 7, 2010, at 2:04 PM, John Reames wrote: >> >> I've r&r a 617 head with manifolds and turbo without chains, a >>> cherry-picker, or a hoist. I put the hood straight up, used some >>> sturdy rope through the liftig eyes, put a 2x6 under the rope, stood >>> on one side of the car and had someone else on the other. >>> >>> The r&r was to replace the head gasket; the DPO put the green stuff >>> in the radiator, and whenever it got good and hot it would weep out >>> the passenger side. >>> >>> For reassembly I invested in some metric all-thread and rounded the >>> top ends nicely; one piece at each end of the block, on opposite >>> sides. Make sure that the all-thread is at least 2-3 inches longer >>> than the longest head bolt. >>> >>> BTW, pulling the head is a GREAT opportunity to replace the timing >>> chain, if needed. Even on a gasser, it can make an improvement. >>> >>> -- >>> John W Reames >>> jwrea...@comcast.net >>> Home: +14106646986 >>> Mobile: +14437915905 >>> >>> On Feb 6, 2010, at 22:57, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> You DON'T need a "cherry picker" to R&R the head. Just simple hand >>>> tools, and some thought as you go. >>>> >>>> I've not done a 103 head. Does it have the "trisquare" headbolts >>>> as in the 603? If so, the most exotic tools you need are the >>>> socket for the headbolts and a 1/2" breaker bar. (and a torque >>>> wrench for the headbolts on >>>> reassembly.) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I bought a cherry picker from the itenerant version of Harbor >>>> Freight >>>>> with >>>>> folding legs so I can shove it in a corner of what's left of the >>>>> garage (all but the front 6 feet are now another room of the >>>>> house). I swap engines, etc. in the drive in front of the garage >>>>> door -- but then again, this is Okie land. >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 9:19 PM, Redghost wrot
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I've never had a flat tire while on the road. I check tires on a regular basis too. One summer, while there was a lot of construction going on in my area, I pulled roofing nails from my tires, twice! The tires lost no air, I found the metal while giving the tires a look over in the driveway, and the car was able to be driven to the garage for service. I keep a can of that tire repair stuff in all the cars. They all carry spares tires too, but in my opinion, the time required for a roadside repair often exposes one to a lot of danger, or around here anyway. Also, if my Dad is using one of the cars, I don't like the idea of him at the side of the road, jacking up a car and making himself a target for other cars driving by. Tire construction isn't what it was 50 years ago. As I said, I've yet to be stranded by a flat. I think it's good practice though, to give them a regular look over, and to check the pressures. Ed 300E On 8 February 2010 12:45, Peter Hertzing wrote: > I have been thinking about this very subject. IN the past 1.5 million > miles > of driving, limos and otherwise, I have had 1 flat tire - in my driveway. > I > am dilligent about walking around the car before leaving, and fequently > checking tire pressure. What do you think? In my miata I am thinking > about > doing away with the spare. During the same period I have had a limo towed > for overheating, (I wasn't driving it), a volvo 740 towed for fuel pump > failure, my benz has been through a tranny but no tow required. What I'm > getting at, is I no longer think that tires are any more likely to need > replacement on the road then many other parts. We don't carry a spare > radiator or fuel pump (unless driving a british car). What does the > collective group think? With cell phones you just call and get it fixed. > > I recognize that you do run the risk of a $10 flat turning into a 100 > repair. > > Thoughts? > > > Peter > > On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 11:17 AM, John Reames wrote: > > > Bluetec benzes have no spare (or space for one), and require run-flats. > > > > -- > > John W Reames > > jwrea...@comcast.net > > Home: +14106646986 > > Mobile: +14437915905 > > > > On Feb 8, 2010, at 2:05, Redghost wrote: > > > > The timing chain was replaced about 30k miles ago. > >> > >> I better get on the ball for the head. SWMBA went out looking at cars > >> today. Drove a jetta wagon TDI and then hit the benz shop and drove an > 08 E > >> blutec. I would prefer the benz, but then, I would much prefer just > using > >> a fraction of the cash to put Gump back on the road. Who in his right > mind > >> is willing to fork over $50k, when 2% of that would do fine to make what > is > >> already in the stable good? No path to riches in a two year old car, > when a > >> 38 year old one is already paid for. > >> > >> clay > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Feb 7, 2010, at 2:04 PM, John Reames wrote: > >> > >> I've r&r a 617 head with manifolds and turbo without chains, a > >>> cherry-picker, or a hoist. I put the hood straight up, used some > sturdy > >>> rope through the liftig eyes, put a 2x6 under the rope, stood on one > side of > >>> the car and had someone else on the other. > >>> > >>> The r&r was to replace the head gasket; the DPO put the green stuff in > >>> the radiator, and whenever it got good and hot it would weep out the > >>> passenger side. > >>> > >>> For reassembly I invested in some metric all-thread and rounded the top > >>> ends nicely; one piece at each end of the block, on opposite sides. > Make > >>> sure that the all-thread is at least 2-3 inches longer than the longest > head > >>> bolt. > >>> > >>> BTW, pulling the head is a GREAT opportunity to replace the timing > chain, > >>> if needed. Even on a gasser, it can make an improvement. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> John W Reames > >>> jwrea...@comcast.net > >>> Home: +14106646986 > >>> Mobile: +14437915905 > >>> > >>> On Feb 6, 2010, at 22:57, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> You DON'T need a "cherry picker" to R&R the head. Just simple hand > tools, and some thought as you go. > > I've not done a 103 head. Does it have the "trisquare" headbolts as > in > the 603? If so, the most exotic tools you need are the socket for the > headbolts and a 1/2" breaker bar. (and a torque wrench for the > headbolts on > reassembly.) > > > > I bought a cherry picker from the itenerant version of Harbor Freight > > with > > folding legs so I can shove it in a corner of what's left of the > garage > > (all > > but the front 6 feet are now another room of the house). I swap > > engines, > > etc. in the drive in front of the garage door -- but then again, this > > is > > Okie land. > > > > On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 9:19 PM, Redghost > wrote: > > > > Yeah, but I have no cherry picker or place to do the work. The > >> blower/dash > >> job was at FiL using his shop and
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I have been thinking about this very subject. IN the past 1.5 million miles of driving, limos and otherwise, I have had 1 flat tire - in my driveway. I am dilligent about walking around the car before leaving, and fequently checking tire pressure. What do you think? In my miata I am thinking about doing away with the spare. During the same period I have had a limo towed for overheating, (I wasn't driving it), a volvo 740 towed for fuel pump failure, my benz has been through a tranny but no tow required. What I'm getting at, is I no longer think that tires are any more likely to need replacement on the road then many other parts. We don't carry a spare radiator or fuel pump (unless driving a british car). What does the collective group think? With cell phones you just call and get it fixed. I recognize that you do run the risk of a $10 flat turning into a 100 repair. Thoughts? Peter On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 11:17 AM, John Reames wrote: > Bluetec benzes have no spare (or space for one), and require run-flats. > > -- > John W Reames > jwrea...@comcast.net > Home: +14106646986 > Mobile: +14437915905 > > On Feb 8, 2010, at 2:05, Redghost wrote: > > The timing chain was replaced about 30k miles ago. >> >> I better get on the ball for the head. SWMBA went out looking at cars >> today. Drove a jetta wagon TDI and then hit the benz shop and drove an 08 E >> blutec. I would prefer the benz, but then, I would much prefer just using >> a fraction of the cash to put Gump back on the road. Who in his right mind >> is willing to fork over $50k, when 2% of that would do fine to make what is >> already in the stable good? No path to riches in a two year old car, when a >> 38 year old one is already paid for. >> >> clay >> >> >> >> >> On Feb 7, 2010, at 2:04 PM, John Reames wrote: >> >> I've r&r a 617 head with manifolds and turbo without chains, a >>> cherry-picker, or a hoist. I put the hood straight up, used some sturdy >>> rope through the liftig eyes, put a 2x6 under the rope, stood on one side of >>> the car and had someone else on the other. >>> >>> The r&r was to replace the head gasket; the DPO put the green stuff in >>> the radiator, and whenever it got good and hot it would weep out the >>> passenger side. >>> >>> For reassembly I invested in some metric all-thread and rounded the top >>> ends nicely; one piece at each end of the block, on opposite sides. Make >>> sure that the all-thread is at least 2-3 inches longer than the longest head >>> bolt. >>> >>> BTW, pulling the head is a GREAT opportunity to replace the timing chain, >>> if needed. Even on a gasser, it can make an improvement. >>> >>> -- >>> John W Reames >>> jwrea...@comcast.net >>> Home: +14106646986 >>> Mobile: +14437915905 >>> >>> On Feb 6, 2010, at 22:57, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> You DON'T need a "cherry picker" to R&R the head. Just simple hand tools, and some thought as you go. I've not done a 103 head. Does it have the "trisquare" headbolts as in the 603? If so, the most exotic tools you need are the socket for the headbolts and a 1/2" breaker bar. (and a torque wrench for the headbolts on reassembly.) I bought a cherry picker from the itenerant version of Harbor Freight > with > folding legs so I can shove it in a corner of what's left of the garage > (all > but the front 6 feet are now another room of the house). I swap > engines, > etc. in the drive in front of the garage door -- but then again, this > is > Okie land. > > On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 9:19 PM, Redghost wrote: > > Yeah, but I have no cherry picker or place to do the work. The >> blower/dash >> job was at FiL using his shop and three of us swinging wrenches. I am >> not >> going to drive Gump to Vancouver to get to the shop, nor can I make it >> to >> Arlington where my BiL does his work. He likes to build jeep >> crawlers, and >> would be great for this job. >> >> clay >> > > > -- > OK Don > Panic! (the national past time). > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To U
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Bluetec benzes have no spare (or space for one), and require run-flats. -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Feb 8, 2010, at 2:05, Redghost wrote: The timing chain was replaced about 30k miles ago. I better get on the ball for the head. SWMBA went out looking at cars today. Drove a jetta wagon TDI and then hit the benz shop and drove an 08 E blutec. I would prefer the benz, but then, I would much prefer just using a fraction of the cash to put Gump back on the road. Who in his right mind is willing to fork over $50k, when 2% of that would do fine to make what is already in the stable good? No path to riches in a two year old car, when a 38 year old one is already paid for. clay On Feb 7, 2010, at 2:04 PM, John Reames wrote: I've r&r a 617 head with manifolds and turbo without chains, a cherry-picker, or a hoist. I put the hood straight up, used some sturdy rope through the liftig eyes, put a 2x6 under the rope, stood on one side of the car and had someone else on the other. The r&r was to replace the head gasket; the DPO put the green stuff in the radiator, and whenever it got good and hot it would weep out the passenger side. For reassembly I invested in some metric all-thread and rounded the top ends nicely; one piece at each end of the block, on opposite sides. Make sure that the all-thread is at least 2-3 inches longer than the longest head bolt. BTW, pulling the head is a GREAT opportunity to replace the timing chain, if needed. Even on a gasser, it can make an improvement. -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Feb 6, 2010, at 22:57, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: You DON'T need a "cherry picker" to R&R the head. Just simple hand tools, and some thought as you go. I've not done a 103 head. Does it have the "trisquare" headbolts as in the 603? If so, the most exotic tools you need are the socket for the headbolts and a 1/2" breaker bar. (and a torque wrench for the headbolts on reassembly.) I bought a cherry picker from the itenerant version of Harbor Freight with folding legs so I can shove it in a corner of what's left of the garage (all but the front 6 feet are now another room of the house). I swap engines, etc. in the drive in front of the garage door -- but then again, this is Okie land. On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 9:19 PM, Redghost wrote: Yeah, but I have no cherry picker or place to do the work. The blower/dash job was at FiL using his shop and three of us swinging wrenches. I am not going to drive Gump to Vancouver to get to the shop, nor can I make it to Arlington where my BiL does his work. He likes to build jeep crawlers, and would be great for this job. clay -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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rectify. Just the thought of the damage I would do to the block and head scares the bejezzus out of me. You, sir, need a cheaper car! For me that's what the Frankenheap was: a car so cheap that I didn't have any excuse whatsoever not to just try crap on it. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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The timing chain was replaced about 30k miles ago. I better get on the ball for the head. SWMBA went out looking at cars today. Drove a jetta wagon TDI and then hit the benz shop and drove an 08 E blutec. I would prefer the benz, but then, I would much prefer just using a fraction of the cash to put Gump back on the road. Who in his right mind is willing to fork over $50k, when 2% of that would do fine to make what is already in the stable good? No path to riches in a two year old car, when a 38 year old one is already paid for. clay On Feb 7, 2010, at 2:04 PM, John Reames wrote: I've r&r a 617 head with manifolds and turbo without chains, a cherry-picker, or a hoist. I put the hood straight up, used some sturdy rope through the liftig eyes, put a 2x6 under the rope, stood on one side of the car and had someone else on the other. The r&r was to replace the head gasket; the DPO put the green stuff in the radiator, and whenever it got good and hot it would weep out the passenger side. For reassembly I invested in some metric all-thread and rounded the top ends nicely; one piece at each end of the block, on opposite sides. Make sure that the all-thread is at least 2-3 inches longer than the longest head bolt. BTW, pulling the head is a GREAT opportunity to replace the timing chain, if needed. Even on a gasser, it can make an improvement. -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Feb 6, 2010, at 22:57, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: You DON'T need a "cherry picker" to R&R the head. Just simple hand tools, and some thought as you go. I've not done a 103 head. Does it have the "trisquare" headbolts as in the 603? If so, the most exotic tools you need are the socket for the headbolts and a 1/2" breaker bar. (and a torque wrench for the headbolts on reassembly.) I bought a cherry picker from the itenerant version of Harbor Freight with folding legs so I can shove it in a corner of what's left of the garage (all but the front 6 feet are now another room of the house). I swap engines, etc. in the drive in front of the garage door -- but then again, this is Okie land. On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 9:19 PM, Redghost wrote: Yeah, but I have no cherry picker or place to do the work. The blower/dash job was at FiL using his shop and three of us swinging wrenches. I am not going to drive Gump to Vancouver to get to the shop, nor can I make it to Arlington where my BiL does his work. He likes to build jeep crawlers, and would be great for this job. clay -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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You are just being mean because I sold you the POS SDL and I will never be in your good graces for just that reason clay On Feb 7, 2010, at 9:36 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I actually do have a very nice motor that would drop right in there, but its still in the car, would be expensive to ship, and would be a hell of a lot more than $400 Redghost wrote: Maybe Klebbie has a nice OM615 he can ship out my way for dirt cheap. Looks like a headgasket blowed out on Gump. If I can snag a $400 motor, I am in business. clay -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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H. Jim C. has a nice 616 head on the Frankenheap. Wonder if Gump would like that too? clay On Feb 7, 2010, at 9:00 AM, Russ Williams wrote: Clay I've got a 616 you can have pay the shipping. No extra charge for the HOLE in the side of the block :-D . Russ Redghost wrote: Maybe Klebbie has a nice OM615 he can ship out my way for dirt cheap. Looks like a headgasket blowed out on Gump. If I can snag a $400 motor, I am in business. clay On Feb 6, 2010, at 3:56 PM, E M wrote: Thanks anyway, too much to ship up here. The bottom end of the engine is very good too. Ed 300E On 6 February 2010 18:50, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: not without the whole engine attached :) E M wrote: Do you have any "good" heads for a W124 gasser. 3 litre? Not sure to invest the money on a full top end rebuild, or find a decent used head. The old girl looks great, both outside and inside, but has 350,000 or so kms on her. The valve guides would have to be good, preferably off a lower mileage car, as here, an '88 is subjected to emission testing. Let me know what you have, cost and price to ship up to Canada. Thanks Kaleb. Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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But Jim, you walk on water and turn scrap microwaves into fully functional cars. I am a simple minded idiot who fears messing up his cheap crap car more than he has already. Whenever I swing a wrench, I tend to bust something really important that required the car to be seen by competent mechanics to rectify. Just the thought of the damage I would do to the block and head scares the bejezzus out of me. clay On Feb 6, 2010, at 8:29 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: Yeah, but I have no cherry picker or place to do the work. Can't help you with 'place', but a cherry picker isn't required for a 4-banger head. A borrowed extra set of hands, maybe, but I bet I could manage without it! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I've r&r a 617 head with manifolds and turbo without chains, a cherry- picker, or a hoist. I put the hood straight up, used some sturdy rope through the liftig eyes, put a 2x6 under the rope, stood on one side of the car and had someone else on the other. The r&r was to replace the head gasket; the DPO put the green stuff in the radiator, and whenever it got good and hot it would weep out the passenger side. For reassembly I invested in some metric all-thread and rounded the top ends nicely; one piece at each end of the block, on opposite sides. Make sure that the all-thread is at least 2-3 inches longer than the longest head bolt. BTW, pulling the head is a GREAT opportunity to replace the timing chain, if needed. Even on a gasser, it can make an improvement. -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Feb 6, 2010, at 22:57, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: You DON'T need a "cherry picker" to R&R the head. Just simple hand tools, and some thought as you go. I've not done a 103 head. Does it have the "trisquare" headbolts as in the 603? If so, the most exotic tools you need are the socket for the headbolts and a 1/2" breaker bar. (and a torque wrench for the headbolts on reassembly.) I bought a cherry picker from the itenerant version of Harbor Freight with folding legs so I can shove it in a corner of what's left of the garage (all but the front 6 feet are now another room of the house). I swap engines, etc. in the drive in front of the garage door -- but then again, this is Okie land. On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 9:19 PM, Redghost wrote: Yeah, but I have no cherry picker or place to do the work. The blower/dash job was at FiL using his shop and three of us swinging wrenches. I am not going to drive Gump to Vancouver to get to the shop, nor can I make it to Arlington where my BiL does his work. He likes to build jeep crawlers, and would be great for this job. clay -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Might have to consider that. --- On Sat, 2/6/10, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: From: Kaleb C. Striplin Subject: Re: [MBZ] *sigh* To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Date: Saturday, February 6, 2010, 6:40 PM all my parts carry a 30 day warranty Gary Hurst wrote: > you warrant this part? you inspect it before shipping? > > kleb really probably has the answer here. if his boots are intact, you > might just want to get it from him and then clean and regrease it. as long > as kleb doesn't send you some klapped out POS, this looks to be your best > answer to me. > > > > -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I actually do have a very nice motor that would drop right in there, but its still in the car, would be expensive to ship, and would be a hell of a lot more than $400 Redghost wrote: Maybe Klebbie has a nice OM615 he can ship out my way for dirt cheap. Looks like a headgasket blowed out on Gump. If I can snag a $400 motor, I am in business. clay -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Clay I've got a 616 you can have pay the shipping. No extra charge for the HOLE in the side of the block :-D . Russ Redghost wrote: Maybe Klebbie has a nice OM615 he can ship out my way for dirt cheap. Looks like a headgasket blowed out on Gump. If I can snag a $400 motor, I am in business. clay On Feb 6, 2010, at 3:56 PM, E M wrote: Thanks anyway, too much to ship up here. The bottom end of the engine is very good too. Ed 300E On 6 February 2010 18:50, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: not without the whole engine attached :) E M wrote: Do you have any "good" heads for a W124 gasser. 3 litre? Not sure to invest the money on a full top end rebuild, or find a decent used head. The old girl looks great, both outside and inside, but has 350,000 or so kms on her. The valve guides would have to be good, preferably off a lower mileage car, as here, an '88 is subjected to emission testing. Let me know what you have, cost and price to ship up to Canada. Thanks Kaleb. Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yeah, but I have no cherry picker or place to do the work. Can't help you with 'place', but a cherry picker isn't required for a 4-banger head. A borrowed extra set of hands, maybe, but I bet I could manage without it! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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You DON'T need a "cherry picker" to R&R the head. Just simple hand tools, and some thought as you go. I've not done a 103 head. Does it have the "trisquare" headbolts as in the 603? If so, the most exotic tools you need are the socket for the headbolts and a 1/2" breaker bar. (and a torque wrench for the headbolts on reassembly.) I bought a cherry picker from the itenerant version of Harbor Freight with folding legs so I can shove it in a corner of what's left of the garage (all but the front 6 feet are now another room of the house). I swap engines, etc. in the drive in front of the garage door -- but then again, this is Okie land. On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 9:19 PM, Redghost wrote: Yeah, but I have no cherry picker or place to do the work. The blower/dash job was at FiL using his shop and three of us swinging wrenches. I am not going to drive Gump to Vancouver to get to the shop, nor can I make it to Arlington where my BiL does his work. He likes to build jeep crawlers, and would be great for this job. clay -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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It's kilometers. The car still drives nice, and is very tight. It's a real testament to Mercedes engineering that if feels as it does with the mileage is has. Whether it could do it all over again starting from where it is now, I'm not so sure about that. I know some reach very high mileage, but most I've heard of have had top end rebuilds, transmission rebuilds, and bottom end rebuilds too. So I'm not sure how much truth there really is to most of these very high mileage cars, that claim to be all original. I do get a lot of enjoyment from driving the car, but it's now at the age and mileage, it's kind of a second car, and I'm not sure how much confidence I would have in it for extended trips. That's not to say I don't trust it, I'm just respectful of what it is, and what I ask of it. Thanks for your thoughts, I'll take them into consideration. Ed 300E On 6 February 2010 22:17, OK Don wrote: > Is that kilometers or miles? If it's 350kilometers, that's only 217,500 > miles - mid-age for the car. If there was nothing wrong with the engine, > would you be driving it for another 165,000 kilometers or 100,000 miles? If > so, fix it - it's cheaper than a new car. If you'd be selling it and > getting > another one in the next few years, don't mess with it. > Generally, if you're starting with a sound car in good shape, you're better > off maintaining it than dumping and getting another --- > > On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 8:44 PM, E M wrote: > > > There's a lot of logic to your point. Truth is, I have no idea where to > > go, > > or what's involved with redoing all the guides in the head. The head > > requires new guides, as oil is now getting past and fouling the plugs. > The > > head gasket also requires replacement. So, I guess when the guides are > > done, the head will require decking too? Not sure if this step is part > of > > the standard procedure when redoing a head or not, or just depends on how > > true it is once it's removed. Either way, I can't imagine getting > guides, > > decking, and other bits here and there done for less than $1000-1500, > > excluding me taking the head off and then reassembling it myself. > > > > The car is generally very sound, but has lots of miles. So with all such > > cars like this, do I spend the money doing a proper top end rebuild, and > > still have an old car with 350,000 kms on it, or let it go? I'm > wondering > > at this stage, if rebuilding such parts, isn't just rebuilding them for > the > > parting-out man at this point? > > > > Ed > > 300E > > > -- > OK Don > Panic! (the national past time). > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I bought a cherry picker from the itenerant version of Harbor Freight with folding legs so I can shove it in a corner of what's left of the garage (all but the front 6 feet are now another room of the house). I swap engines, etc. in the drive in front of the garage door -- but then again, this is Okie land. On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 9:19 PM, Redghost wrote: > Yeah, but I have no cherry picker or place to do the work. The blower/dash > job was at FiL using his shop and three of us swinging wrenches. I am not > going to drive Gump to Vancouver to get to the shop, nor can I make it to > Arlington where my BiL does his work. He likes to build jeep crawlers, and > would be great for this job. > > clay -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yeah, but I have no cherry picker or place to do the work. The blower/ dash job was at FiL using his shop and three of us swinging wrenches. I am not going to drive Gump to Vancouver to get to the shop, nor can I make it to Arlington where my BiL does his work. He likes to build jeep crawlers, and would be great for this job. clay On Feb 6, 2010, at 4:58 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: headgasket blowed out on Gump. If I can snag a $400 motor... Why not just put in a new gasket? If you can do a dashboard, you should be able to do a head gasket. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Is that kilometers or miles? If it's 350kilometers, that's only 217,500 miles - mid-age for the car. If there was nothing wrong with the engine, would you be driving it for another 165,000 kilometers or 100,000 miles? If so, fix it - it's cheaper than a new car. If you'd be selling it and getting another one in the next few years, don't mess with it. Generally, if you're starting with a sound car in good shape, you're better off maintaining it than dumping and getting another --- On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 8:44 PM, E M wrote: > There's a lot of logic to your point. Truth is, I have no idea where to > go, > or what's involved with redoing all the guides in the head. The head > requires new guides, as oil is now getting past and fouling the plugs. The > head gasket also requires replacement. So, I guess when the guides are > done, the head will require decking too? Not sure if this step is part of > the standard procedure when redoing a head or not, or just depends on how > true it is once it's removed. Either way, I can't imagine getting guides, > decking, and other bits here and there done for less than $1000-1500, > excluding me taking the head off and then reassembling it myself. > > The car is generally very sound, but has lots of miles. So with all such > cars like this, do I spend the money doing a proper top end rebuild, and > still have an old car with 350,000 kms on it, or let it go? I'm wondering > at this stage, if rebuilding such parts, isn't just rebuilding them for the > parting-out man at this point? > > Ed > 300E -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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There's a lot of logic to your point. Truth is, I have no idea where to go, or what's involved with redoing all the guides in the head. The head requires new guides, as oil is now getting past and fouling the plugs. The head gasket also requires replacement. So, I guess when the guides are done, the head will require decking too? Not sure if this step is part of the standard procedure when redoing a head or not, or just depends on how true it is once it's removed. Either way, I can't imagine getting guides, decking, and other bits here and there done for less than $1000-1500, excluding me taking the head off and then reassembling it myself. The car is generally very sound, but has lots of miles. So with all such cars like this, do I spend the money doing a proper top end rebuild, and still have an old car with 350,000 kms on it, or let it go? I'm wondering at this stage, if rebuilding such parts, isn't just rebuilding them for the parting-out man at this point? Ed 300E On 6 February 2010 20:34, Mitch Haley wrote: > E M wrote: > >> Thanks anyway, too much to ship up here. The bottom end of the engine is >> very good too. >> > > > What's wrong with the original head? > Seems like shipping on something that big and heavy would cost more than > replacing 12 valve guides, and then you'll have new guides, not half worn or > worse. > > Mitch. > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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E M wrote: Thanks anyway, too much to ship up here. The bottom end of the engine is very good too. What's wrong with the original head? Seems like shipping on something that big and heavy would cost more than replacing 12 valve guides, and then you'll have new guides, not half worn or worse. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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So Is there some kind of link to this post or better info as to where exactly it is posted? Manfred Gary Hurst writes: > if you happen to own those cheap chinese axle shafts, i have posted > the worldpac instructions for keeping yourself alive. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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headgasket blowed out on Gump. If I can snag a $400 motor... Why not just put in a new gasket? If you can do a dashboard, you should be able to do a head gasket. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Maybe Klebbie has a nice OM615 he can ship out my way for dirt cheap. Looks like a headgasket blowed out on Gump. If I can snag a $400 motor, I am in business. clay On Feb 6, 2010, at 3:56 PM, E M wrote: Thanks anyway, too much to ship up here. The bottom end of the engine is very good too. Ed 300E On 6 February 2010 18:50, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: not without the whole engine attached :) E M wrote: Do you have any "good" heads for a W124 gasser. 3 litre? Not sure to invest the money on a full top end rebuild, or find a decent used head. The old girl looks great, both outside and inside, but has 350,000 or so kms on her. The valve guides would have to be good, preferably off a lower mileage car, as here, an '88 is subjected to emission testing. Let me know what you have, cost and price to ship up to Canada. Thanks Kaleb. Ed 300E -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Thanks anyway, too much to ship up here. The bottom end of the engine is very good too. Ed 300E On 6 February 2010 18:50, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > not without the whole engine attached :) > > > E M wrote: > >> Do you have any "good" heads for a W124 gasser. 3 litre? Not sure to >> invest >> the money on a full top end rebuild, or find a decent used head. The old >> girl looks great, both outside and inside, but has 350,000 or so kms on >> her. The valve guides would have to be good, preferably off a lower >> mileage >> car, as here, an '88 is subjected to emission testing. >> >> Let me know what you have, cost and price to ship up to Canada. >> >> Thanks Kaleb. >> >> Ed >> 300E >> >> >> > > -- > Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK > 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 > 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro > manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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not without the whole engine attached :) E M wrote: Do you have any "good" heads for a W124 gasser. 3 litre? Not sure to invest the money on a full top end rebuild, or find a decent used head. The old girl looks great, both outside and inside, but has 350,000 or so kms on her. The valve guides would have to be good, preferably off a lower mileage car, as here, an '88 is subjected to emission testing. Let me know what you have, cost and price to ship up to Canada. Thanks Kaleb. Ed 300E -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Do you have any "good" heads for a W124 gasser. 3 litre? Not sure to invest the money on a full top end rebuild, or find a decent used head. The old girl looks great, both outside and inside, but has 350,000 or so kms on her. The valve guides would have to be good, preferably off a lower mileage car, as here, an '88 is subjected to emission testing. Let me know what you have, cost and price to ship up to Canada. Thanks Kaleb. Ed 300E On 6 February 2010 18:40, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > all my parts carry a 30 day warranty > > > Gary Hurst wrote: > >> you warrant this part? you inspect it before shipping? >> >> kleb really probably has the answer here. if his boots are intact, you >> might just want to get it from him and then clean and regrease it. as >> long >> as kleb doesn't send you some klapped out POS, this looks to be your best >> answer to me. >> >> >> >> >> > > -- > Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK > 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 > 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro > manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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any I have would most likely be the old style. Mitch Haley wrote: E M wrote: For a $1000 car, maybe some decent used original Benzs axles would do ? Or clean and reboot the one he has, see how long it takes to start rattling. Seems like if you can get all the grit out before it wears out, you can save it by redoing the lube and boot. Maybe buy a used one and reboot the old for a spare? http://dieselgiant.com/mercedesaxleshaftbootreplace.htm If he buys one from Kleb, he'll want to make sure he gets the whole thing. If the Kleb part is the new style, Kleb will need to pull the clip inside the diff instead of just unbolting it from the outside. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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all my parts carry a 30 day warranty Gary Hurst wrote: you warrant this part? you inspect it before shipping? kleb really probably has the answer here. if his boots are intact, you might just want to get it from him and then clean and regrease it. as long as kleb doesn't send you some klapped out POS, this looks to be your best answer to me. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I think you can always find new OEM, whether through the dealer, or NOS. But there comes a point when you have to ask if the cost is worth it. If it's an old gullwing, probably. A tired W115 or W123, maybe not. But thankfully, Mercedes made these cars in the thousands, so if you look, you can probably find what you need in recyclers yards for some years to come. When finding parts for a daily driver becomes real work, time for a different car. Ed 300E On 6 February 2010 17:52, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > what do you do if OEM does not make a certain part you need anymore? > > Dimitri Seretakis wrote: > >> Hmmm. I'll stick with the OEM product! Nothing like piece of mind. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> O >> > > -- > Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK > 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 > 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro > manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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yeah, dirt and grit will get in a torn boot fast, and the joint usually dies a quick death. Ed 300E On 6 February 2010 18:06, Gary Hurst wrote: > once the boots are torn, i don't think you can jsut reuse yours. there is > dirt in teh joints > > On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 6:04 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: > > > E M wrote: > > > >> For a $1000 car, maybe some decent used original Benzs axles would do ? > >> > > > > Or clean and reboot the one he has, see how long it takes to start > > rattling. > > Seems like if you can get all the grit out before it wears out, you can > > save it by redoing the lube and boot. Maybe buy a used one and reboot the > > old for a spare? > > > > http://dieselgiant.com/mercedesaxleshaftbootreplace.htm > > > > If he buys one from Kleb, he'll want to make sure he gets the whole > thing. > > If the Kleb part is the new style, Kleb will need to pull the clip inside > > the diff instead of just unbolting it from the outside. > > > > > > Mitch. > > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > -- > save 5% on our already low, low prices. use coupon code DAVE at checkout. > www. BuyEUROparts.com > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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once the boots are torn, i don't think you can jsut reuse yours. there is dirt in teh joints On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 6:04 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: > E M wrote: > >> For a $1000 car, maybe some decent used original Benzs axles would do ? >> > > Or clean and reboot the one he has, see how long it takes to start > rattling. > Seems like if you can get all the grit out before it wears out, you can > save it by redoing the lube and boot. Maybe buy a used one and reboot the > old for a spare? > > http://dieselgiant.com/mercedesaxleshaftbootreplace.htm > > If he buys one from Kleb, he'll want to make sure he gets the whole thing. > If the Kleb part is the new style, Kleb will need to pull the clip inside > the diff instead of just unbolting it from the outside. > > > Mitch. > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- save 5% on our already low, low prices. use coupon code DAVE at checkout. www. BuyEUROparts.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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E M wrote: For a $1000 car, maybe some decent used original Benzs axles would do ? Or clean and reboot the one he has, see how long it takes to start rattling. Seems like if you can get all the grit out before it wears out, you can save it by redoing the lube and boot. Maybe buy a used one and reboot the old for a spare? http://dieselgiant.com/mercedesaxleshaftbootreplace.htm If he buys one from Kleb, he'll want to make sure he gets the whole thing. If the Kleb part is the new style, Kleb will need to pull the clip inside the diff instead of just unbolting it from the outside. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Thanks. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 6, 2010, at 5:46 PM, buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: I am home tonight but on Monday I will let you know all the options and prices available to me. I have a few options that some other suppliers don't due to my 33 years in this business. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld -Original Message- From: Dimitri Seretakis Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 14:38:26 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] *sigh* Ok. I need an axle shaft for a 73 220D. OEM vs China. Can you quote me both prices? Another option is to rebuild the original or buy used? My axle shaft boot is cracked/torn so is this part shot? That's what I hear but the car was asymptomatic before I noticed the crack. I'm thinking about just slipping on a new boot. I truly don't like the idea of Chinese parts on this car. Not being "rascist" but I have my preferences and those include doing my best to keep this car original. I ordered a front grille for this same car about onee year ago thinking that I was buying an original part but I ended up getting an aftermarket part. I didn't ask when I bought it (probably should of) and just naively assumed it would be original. Well, I struggled dearly to make it fit as all the fasteners were junk. I had to reuse the old rusty ones and modify some others. It was a real pain in the butt. The part also was not of the same quality. The rounded edges on both sides were not formed nicely, kind of many little bends to make an arc technique was employed in its production. Believe me, I was not happy but didn't want to go through the hassle of returning it. Now one year later it has started to rust! My point is that I prefer original regardless of country of origin and I think it was actually made in Germany but not original MB. China parts really do rub me the wrong way because their quality is even worse. --- On Sat, 2/6/10, buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: From: buymbpa...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] *sigh* To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Date: Saturday, February 6, 2010, 5:10 PM Dimitri, the problem is that Mercedes in their infinite wisdom, changed the design of this particular axle with the production of the W126 chassis. So you can't buy what came on your car new from them. You have to buy an updated axle plus extra parts which sell for over $1000 per side at wholesale not retail! So the only option for the original axle is an aftermarket one or a rebuilt one, henceforth the issue. So do you want a rebuild that has better than a 50 percent failure rate or a Chinese new version that has a hugely successful record? Oh, wait, of course spend $2,500 on axles for a $1000 car. Hmm. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld -Original Message- From: Dimitri Seretakis Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 13:51:58 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] *sigh* Hmmm. I'll stick with the OEM product! Nothing like piece of mind. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 6, 2010, at 4:43 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: It fits W114, W115, W107, W123 I love the instructions. Set your torque wrench for 55 foot pounds, and carefully go around the bolts in a criss cross pattern as shown. If ANY of the bolts move, return the part for exchange. If the bolts aren't turning, why would it matter what order you don't turn them in? If one of them does turn, I'm going to quit torquing bolts and immediately fail the thing, so who cares what order I check them in? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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well, then buy teh lobros for big money and get the best. if that is too much, buy a kleb special and clean, regrease and reboot it. ok, that sounds definitive to me. i go now. On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 5:55 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: > Well then I have no choice. But as long as I do I'd much rather prefer OEM. > Now if the price difference is 100-200% more I still might go OEM but higher > than that economics will have to play a role. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Feb 6, 2010, at 5:52 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin" > wrote: > > what do you do if OEM does not make a certain part you need anymore? > > Dimitri Seretakis wrote: > Hmmm. I'll stick with the OEM product! Nothing like piece of mind. > > Sent from my iPhone > > O > > -- > Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK > 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 > 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro > manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- save 5% on our already low, low prices. use coupon code DAVE at checkout. www. BuyEUROparts.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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you warrant this part? you inspect it before shipping? kleb really probably has the answer here. if his boots are intact, you might just want to get it from him and then clean and regrease it. as long as kleb doesn't send you some klapped out POS, this looks to be your best answer to me. On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 5:53 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > or spend 40-50 for me and get the real deal good used part. > > > buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: > >> Dimitri, the problem is that Mercedes in their infinite wisdom, changed >> the design of this particular axle with the production of the W126 chassis. >> So you can't buy what came on your car new from them. You have to buy an >> updated axle plus extra parts which sell for over $1000 per side at >> wholesale not retail! So the only option for the original axle is an >> aftermarket one or a rebuilt one, henceforth the issue. So do you want a >> rebuild that has better than a 50 percent failure rate or a Chinese new >> version that has a hugely successful record? Oh, wait, of course spend >> $2,500 on axles for a $1000 car. Hmm. >> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld >> >> >> > > -- > Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK > 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 > 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro > manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- save 5% on our already low, low prices. use coupon code DAVE at checkout. www. BuyEUROparts.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Well then I have no choice. But as long as I do I'd much rather prefer OEM. Now if the price difference is 100-200% more I still might go OEM but higher than that economics will have to play a role. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 6, 2010, at 5:52 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: what do you do if OEM does not make a certain part you need anymore? Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Hmmm. I'll stick with the OEM product! Nothing like piece of mind. Sent from my iPhone O -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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and what about spending a grand for parts to fix a car that isn't worth that? there may be some silliness to this story On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 5:52 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > what do you do if OEM does not make a certain part you need anymore? > > > Dimitri Seretakis wrote: > >> Hmmm. I'll stick with the OEM product! Nothing like piece of mind. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> O >> > > -- > Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK > 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 > 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro > manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- save 5% on our already low, low prices. use coupon code DAVE at checkout. www. BuyEUROparts.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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or spend 40-50 for me and get the real deal good used part. buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: Dimitri, the problem is that Mercedes in their infinite wisdom, changed the design of this particular axle with the production of the W126 chassis. So you can't buy what came on your car new from them. You have to buy an updated axle plus extra parts which sell for over $1000 per side at wholesale not retail! So the only option for the original axle is an aftermarket one or a rebuilt one, henceforth the issue. So do you want a rebuild that has better than a 50 percent failure rate or a Chinese new version that has a hugely successful record? Oh, wait, of course spend $2,500 on axles for a $1000 car. Hmm. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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what do you do if OEM does not make a certain part you need anymore? Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Hmmm. I'll stick with the OEM product! Nothing like piece of mind. Sent from my iPhone O -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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i found some lobro (fan club members, do not look) the are expensive. how much is this car actually worth? http://www.vertexautoparts.com/OEM/viewProducts.aspx?year=1973&makeID=MERCEDES+BENZ&modelID=1192845&catID=Axle+%26+Driveshaft&groupID=Rear+Drive On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: > Ok. I need an axle shaft for a 73 220D. OEM vs China. Can you quote me > both prices? Another option is to rebuild the original or buy used? My > axle shaft boot is cracked/torn so is this part shot? That's what I hear > but the car was asymptomatic before I noticed the crack. I'm thinking about > just slipping on a new boot. I truly don't like the idea of Chinese parts > on this car. Not being "rascist" but I have my preferences and those > include doing my best to keep this car original. I ordered a front grille > for this same car about onee year ago thinking that I was buying an original > part but I ended up getting an aftermarket part. I didn't ask when I bought > it (probably should of) and just naively assumed it would be original. > Well, I struggled dearly to make it fit as all the fasteners were junk. I > had to reuse the old rusty ones and modify some others. It was a real pain > in the butt. The part also was not of the same > quality. The rounded edges on both sides were not formed nicely, kind of > many little bends to make an arc technique was employed in its production. > Believe me, I was not happy but didn't want to go through the hassle of > returning it. Now one year later it has started to rust! My point is that > I prefer original regardless of country of origin and I think it was > actually made in Germany but not original MB. China parts really do rub me > the wrong way because their quality is even worse. > > --- On Sat, 2/6/10, buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: > > > From: buymbpa...@gmail.com > Subject: Re: [MBZ] *sigh* > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Date: Saturday, February 6, 2010, 5:10 PM > > > > Dimitri, the problem is that Mercedes in their infinite wisdom, changed the > design of this particular axle with the production of the W126 chassis. So > you can't buy what came on your car new from them. You have to buy an > updated axle plus extra parts which sell for over $1000 per side at > wholesale not retail! So the only option for the original axle is an > aftermarket one or a rebuilt one, henceforth the issue. So do you want a > rebuild that has better than a 50 percent failure rate or a Chinese new > version that has a hugely successful record? Oh, wait, of course spend > $2,500 on axles for a $1000 car. Hmm. > > Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld > > -Original Message- > From: Dimitri Seretakis > Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 13:51:58 > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] *sigh* > > Hmmm. I'll stick with the OEM product! Nothing like piece of mind. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Feb 6, 2010, at 4:43 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: > > buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: > It fits W114, W115, W107, W123 > > I love the instructions. Set your torque wrench for 55 foot pounds, and > carefully go around the bolts in a criss cross pattern as shown. If ANY of > the bolts move, return the part for exchange. > > If the bolts aren't turning, why would it matter what order you don't turn > them in? > If one of them does turn, I'm going to quit torquing bolts and immediately > fail the thing, so who cares what order I check them in? > > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http:/
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I am home tonight but on Monday I will let you know all the options and prices available to me. I have a few options that some other suppliers don't due to my 33 years in this business. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld -Original Message- From: Dimitri Seretakis Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 14:38:26 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] *sigh* Ok. I need an axle shaft for a 73 220D. OEM vs China. Can you quote me both prices? Another option is to rebuild the original or buy used? My axle shaft boot is cracked/torn so is this part shot? That's what I hear but the car was asymptomatic before I noticed the crack. I'm thinking about just slipping on a new boot. I truly don't like the idea of Chinese parts on this car. Not being "rascist" but I have my preferences and those include doing my best to keep this car original. I ordered a front grille for this same car about onee year ago thinking that I was buying an original part but I ended up getting an aftermarket part. I didn't ask when I bought it (probably should of) and just naively assumed it would be original. Well, I struggled dearly to make it fit as all the fasteners were junk. I had to reuse the old rusty ones and modify some others. It was a real pain in the butt. The part also was not of the same quality. The rounded edges on both sides were not formed nicely, kind of many little bends to make an arc technique was employed in its production. Believe me, I was not happy but didn't want to go through the hassle of returning it. Now one year later it has started to rust! My point is that I prefer original regardless of country of origin and I think it was actually made in Germany but not original MB. China parts really do rub me the wrong way because their quality is even worse. --- On Sat, 2/6/10, buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: From: buymbpa...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] *sigh* To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Date: Saturday, February 6, 2010, 5:10 PM Dimitri, the problem is that Mercedes in their infinite wisdom, changed the design of this particular axle with the production of the W126 chassis. So you can't buy what came on your car new from them. You have to buy an updated axle plus extra parts which sell for over $1000 per side at wholesale not retail! So the only option for the original axle is an aftermarket one or a rebuilt one, henceforth the issue. So do you want a rebuild that has better than a 50 percent failure rate or a Chinese new version that has a hugely successful record? Oh, wait, of course spend $2,500 on axles for a $1000 car. Hmm. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld -Original Message- From: Dimitri Seretakis Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 13:51:58 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] *sigh* Hmmm. I'll stick with the OEM product! Nothing like piece of mind. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 6, 2010, at 4:43 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: It fits W114, W115, W107, W123 I love the instructions. Set your torque wrench for 55 foot pounds, and carefully go around the bolts in a criss cross pattern as shown. If ANY of the bolts move, return the part for exchange. If the bolts aren't turning, why would it matter what order you don't turn them in? If one of them does turn, I'm going to quit torquing bolts and immediately fail the thing, so who cares what order I check them in? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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For a $1000 car, maybe some decent used original Benzs axles would do ? Ed 300E On 6 February 2010 17:10, wrote: > > Dimitri, the problem is that Mercedes in their infinite wisdom, changed the > design of this particular axle with the production of the W126 chassis. So > you can't buy what came on your car new from them. You have to buy an > updated axle plus extra parts which sell for over $1000 per side at > wholesale not retail! So the only option for the original axle is an > aftermarket one or a rebuilt one, henceforth the issue. So do you want a > rebuild that has better than a 50 percent failure rate or a Chinese new > version that has a hugely successful record? Oh, wait, of course spend > $2,500 on axles for a $1000 car. Hmm. > > Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld > > -Original Message- > From: Dimitri Seretakis > Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 13:51:58 > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] *sigh* > > Hmmm. I'll stick with the OEM product! Nothing like piece of mind. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Feb 6, 2010, at 4:43 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: > > buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: > It fits W114, W115, W107, W123 > > I love the instructions. Set your torque wrench for 55 foot pounds, and > carefully go around the bolts in a criss cross pattern as shown. If ANY of > the bolts move, return the part for exchange. > > If the bolts aren't turning, why would it matter what order you don't turn > them in? > If one of them does turn, I'm going to quit torquing bolts and immediately > fail the thing, so who cares what order I check them in? > > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Ok. I need an axle shaft for a 73 220D. OEM vs China. Can you quote me both prices? Another option is to rebuild the original or buy used? My axle shaft boot is cracked/torn so is this part shot? That's what I hear but the car was asymptomatic before I noticed the crack. I'm thinking about just slipping on a new boot. I truly don't like the idea of Chinese parts on this car. Not being "rascist" but I have my preferences and those include doing my best to keep this car original. I ordered a front grille for this same car about onee year ago thinking that I was buying an original part but I ended up getting an aftermarket part. I didn't ask when I bought it (probably should of) and just naively assumed it would be original. Well, I struggled dearly to make it fit as all the fasteners were junk. I had to reuse the old rusty ones and modify some others. It was a real pain in the butt. The part also was not of the same quality. The rounded edges on both sides were not formed nicely, kind of many little bends to make an arc technique was employed in its production. Believe me, I was not happy but didn't want to go through the hassle of returning it. Now one year later it has started to rust! My point is that I prefer original regardless of country of origin and I think it was actually made in Germany but not original MB. China parts really do rub me the wrong way because their quality is even worse. --- On Sat, 2/6/10, buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: From: buymbpa...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] *sigh* To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Date: Saturday, February 6, 2010, 5:10 PM Dimitri, the problem is that Mercedes in their infinite wisdom, changed the design of this particular axle with the production of the W126 chassis. So you can't buy what came on your car new from them. You have to buy an updated axle plus extra parts which sell for over $1000 per side at wholesale not retail! So the only option for the original axle is an aftermarket one or a rebuilt one, henceforth the issue. So do you want a rebuild that has better than a 50 percent failure rate or a Chinese new version that has a hugely successful record? Oh, wait, of course spend $2,500 on axles for a $1000 car. Hmm. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld -Original Message- From: Dimitri Seretakis Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 13:51:58 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] *sigh* Hmmm. I'll stick with the OEM product! Nothing like piece of mind. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 6, 2010, at 4:43 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: It fits W114, W115, W107, W123 I love the instructions. Set your torque wrench for 55 foot pounds, and carefully go around the bolts in a criss cross pattern as shown. If ANY of the bolts move, return the part for exchange. If the bolts aren't turning, why would it matter what order you don't turn them in? If one of them does turn, I'm going to quit torquing bolts and immediately fail the thing, so who cares what order I check them in? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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no, we got lobro a lot later than that. our friend randy has a whole page on them, but it seems IMC only stocks the empi like most people now do http://www.epsparts.com/contents/show/GKN-Lobro-Products-Information-Page my thought is if you can find some lobros, you have something going. that's the road i'd be researching if i needed one of those halfshafts. On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 5:32 PM, wrote: > > Come on Gary, this is your business. Loebro stopped making these things in > the 90's. The 3 options are what I have already mentioned. > > > Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld > > -Original Message- > From: Gary Hurst > Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 17:24:25 > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] *sigh* > > are there still any lobros around? > > On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 5:10 PM, wrote: > > > > > Dimitri, the problem is that Mercedes in their infinite wisdom, changed > the > > design of this particular axle with the production of the W126 chassis. > So > > you can't buy what came on your car new from them. You have to buy an > > updated axle plus extra parts which sell for over $1000 per side at > > wholesale not retail! So the only option for the original axle is an > > aftermarket one or a rebuilt one, henceforth the issue. So do you want a > > rebuild that has better than a 50 percent failure rate or a Chinese new > > version that has a hugely successful record? Oh, wait, of course spend > > $2,500 on axles for a $1000 car. Hmm. > > > > Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Dimitri Seretakis > > Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 13:51:58 > > To: Mercedes Discussion List > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] *sigh* > > > > Hmmm. I'll stick with the OEM product! Nothing like piece of mind. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On Feb 6, 2010, at 4:43 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: > > > > buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: > > It fits W114, W115, W107, W123 > > > > I love the instructions. Set your torque wrench for 55 foot pounds, and > > carefully go around the bolts in a criss cross pattern as shown. If ANY > of > > the bolts move, return the part for exchange. > > > > If the bolts aren't turning, why would it matter what order you don't > turn > > them in? > > If one of them does turn, I'm going to quit torquing bolts and > immediately > > fail the thing, so who cares what order I check them in? > > > > Mitch. > > > >___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > > >___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > -- > save 5% on our already low, low prices. use coupon code DAVE at checkout. > www. BuyEUROparts.com > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- save 5% on our already low, low prices. use coupon code DAVE at checkout. www. BuyEUROparts.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] *sigh*
Come on Gary, this is your business. Loebro stopped making these things in the 90's. The 3 options are what I have already mentioned. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld -Original Message- From: Gary Hurst Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 17:24:25 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] *sigh* are there still any lobros around? On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 5:10 PM, wrote: > > Dimitri, the problem is that Mercedes in their infinite wisdom, changed the > design of this particular axle with the production of the W126 chassis. So > you can't buy what came on your car new from them. You have to buy an > updated axle plus extra parts which sell for over $1000 per side at > wholesale not retail! So the only option for the original axle is an > aftermarket one or a rebuilt one, henceforth the issue. So do you want a > rebuild that has better than a 50 percent failure rate or a Chinese new > version that has a hugely successful record? Oh, wait, of course spend > $2,500 on axles for a $1000 car. Hmm. > > Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld > > -Original Message- > From: Dimitri Seretakis > Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 13:51:58 > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] *sigh* > > Hmmm. I'll stick with the OEM product! Nothing like piece of mind. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Feb 6, 2010, at 4:43 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: > > buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: > It fits W114, W115, W107, W123 > > I love the instructions. Set your torque wrench for 55 foot pounds, and > carefully go around the bolts in a criss cross pattern as shown. If ANY of > the bolts move, return the part for exchange. > > If the bolts aren't turning, why would it matter what order you don't turn > them in? > If one of them does turn, I'm going to quit torquing bolts and immediately > fail the thing, so who cares what order I check them in? > > Mitch. > >___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > >___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- save 5% on our already low, low prices. use coupon code DAVE at checkout. www. BuyEUROparts.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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A truly AMAZING American product, that every American should be proud of. Subjected to way more quality control and on going testing than it was every required to have during it's service life. As a product, a great example of design excellence, and ongoing development. A reusable spacecraft, that's done it's job well for what, over 30 years? That almost puts it in the W123 club. ;-) Ed 300E On 6 February 2010 17:11, wrote: > > Can anyone say "Space Shuttle" ? > > > > Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld > > -Original Message- > From: E M > Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 17:09:59 > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] *sigh* > > I feel with any product or component, there is design, manufacture, > testing, > and quality control of all three. > > Everyone has made mistakes, some have better track records than others at > making fewer mistakes, and putting things right when they do mess up. > Spend > your money where you put your faith. > > Ed > 300E > > On 6 February 2010 17:00, wrote: > > > > > Exactly Allan. But now it has become a bash contest. Who started this > > thread? > > > > > > > > --Original Message-- > > From: Allan Streib > > Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com > > To: Mercedes Discussion List > > ReplyTo: Mercedes Discussion List > > Sent: Feb 6, 2010 4:58 PM > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] *sigh* > > > > On Sat, 06 Feb 2010 13:51 -0800, "Dimitri Seretakis" < > dsereta...@yahoo.com> > > wrote: > > > > > Hmmm. I'll stick with the OEM product! Nothing like piece of mind. > > > > Any part or vehicle can have manufacturing flaws. Look at Toyota right > > now, those cars are 100% factory and are under recall. There are no > > marques that have never had a safety recall. > > > > This really is sounding like an unfortunate assembly error, not a > > deliberate skimping on materials or specs. The manufacturer didn't save > > any money by not tightening the bolts all the way. > > > > Allan > > > >___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld > >___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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are there still any lobros around? On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 5:10 PM, wrote: > > Dimitri, the problem is that Mercedes in their infinite wisdom, changed the > design of this particular axle with the production of the W126 chassis. So > you can't buy what came on your car new from them. You have to buy an > updated axle plus extra parts which sell for over $1000 per side at > wholesale not retail! So the only option for the original axle is an > aftermarket one or a rebuilt one, henceforth the issue. So do you want a > rebuild that has better than a 50 percent failure rate or a Chinese new > version that has a hugely successful record? Oh, wait, of course spend > $2,500 on axles for a $1000 car. Hmm. > > Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld > > -Original Message- > From: Dimitri Seretakis > Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 13:51:58 > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] *sigh* > > Hmmm. I'll stick with the OEM product! Nothing like piece of mind. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Feb 6, 2010, at 4:43 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: > > buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: > It fits W114, W115, W107, W123 > > I love the instructions. Set your torque wrench for 55 foot pounds, and > carefully go around the bolts in a criss cross pattern as shown. If ANY of > the bolts move, return the part for exchange. > > If the bolts aren't turning, why would it matter what order you don't turn > them in? > If one of them does turn, I'm going to quit torquing bolts and immediately > fail the thing, so who cares what order I check them in? > > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- save 5% on our already low, low prices. use coupon code DAVE at checkout. www. BuyEUROparts.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I have no problem with an American company selling a product made in China, but the country of origin should be stated as that, "Product, or Made in China", not represented as an American produced product. If any of the mentioned companies feel confident enough to sub to China, or elsewhere, and for the product to carry their name, they shouldn't have a problem starting the true country of origin. Ed 300E On 6 February 2010 17:03, Allan Streib wrote: > On Sat, 06 Feb 2010 16:59 -0500, "E M" wrote: > > > On a side note, years ago, I was down in NY and found myself in a JC > > Penny store. Their catalog had a small flag of origin beside each > > product. I thought it was a great idea providing such info for > > customers. > > Conversely, Harbor Freight has American flags all over the place, and > "brands" like "Chicago Electric", "U.S. General", and "Pittsburgh" that > are all made in China. > > Allan > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Can anyone say "Space Shuttle" ? Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld -Original Message- From: E M Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 17:09:59 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] *sigh* I feel with any product or component, there is design, manufacture, testing, and quality control of all three. Everyone has made mistakes, some have better track records than others at making fewer mistakes, and putting things right when they do mess up. Spend your money where you put your faith. Ed 300E On 6 February 2010 17:00, wrote: > > Exactly Allan. But now it has become a bash contest. Who started this > thread? > > > > --Original Message-- > From: Allan Streib > Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com > To: Mercedes Discussion List > ReplyTo: Mercedes Discussion List > Sent: Feb 6, 2010 4:58 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] *sigh* > > On Sat, 06 Feb 2010 13:51 -0800, "Dimitri Seretakis" > wrote: > > > Hmmm. I'll stick with the OEM product! Nothing like piece of mind. > > Any part or vehicle can have manufacturing flaws. Look at Toyota right > now, those cars are 100% factory and are under recall. There are no > marques that have never had a safety recall. > > This really is sounding like an unfortunate assembly error, not a > deliberate skimping on materials or specs. The manufacturer didn't save > any money by not tightening the bolts all the way. > > Allan > >___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld >___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Dimitri, the problem is that Mercedes in their infinite wisdom, changed the design of this particular axle with the production of the W126 chassis. So you can't buy what came on your car new from them. You have to buy an updated axle plus extra parts which sell for over $1000 per side at wholesale not retail! So the only option for the original axle is an aftermarket one or a rebuilt one, henceforth the issue. So do you want a rebuild that has better than a 50 percent failure rate or a Chinese new version that has a hugely successful record? Oh, wait, of course spend $2,500 on axles for a $1000 car. Hmm. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld -Original Message- From: Dimitri Seretakis Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 13:51:58 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] *sigh* Hmmm. I'll stick with the OEM product! Nothing like piece of mind. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 6, 2010, at 4:43 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: It fits W114, W115, W107, W123 I love the instructions. Set your torque wrench for 55 foot pounds, and carefully go around the bolts in a criss cross pattern as shown. If ANY of the bolts move, return the part for exchange. If the bolts aren't turning, why would it matter what order you don't turn them in? If one of them does turn, I'm going to quit torquing bolts and immediately fail the thing, so who cares what order I check them in? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I feel with any product or component, there is design, manufacture, testing, and quality control of all three. Everyone has made mistakes, some have better track records than others at making fewer mistakes, and putting things right when they do mess up. Spend your money where you put your faith. Ed 300E On 6 February 2010 17:00, wrote: > > Exactly Allan. But now it has become a bash contest. Who started this > thread? > > > > --Original Message-- > From: Allan Streib > Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com > To: Mercedes Discussion List > ReplyTo: Mercedes Discussion List > Sent: Feb 6, 2010 4:58 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] *sigh* > > On Sat, 06 Feb 2010 13:51 -0800, "Dimitri Seretakis" > wrote: > > > Hmmm. I'll stick with the OEM product! Nothing like piece of mind. > > Any part or vehicle can have manufacturing flaws. Look at Toyota right > now, those cars are 100% factory and are under recall. There are no > marques that have never had a safety recall. > > This really is sounding like an unfortunate assembly error, not a > deliberate skimping on materials or specs. The manufacturer didn't save > any money by not tightening the bolts all the way. > > Allan > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Sat, 06 Feb 2010 16:59 -0500, "E M" wrote: > On a side note, years ago, I was down in NY and found myself in a JC > Penny store. Their catalog had a small flag of origin beside each > product. I thought it was a great idea providing such info for > customers. Conversely, Harbor Freight has American flags all over the place, and "brands" like "Chicago Electric", "U.S. General", and "Pittsburgh" that are all made in China. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Exactly Allan. But now it has become a bash contest. Who started this thread? --Original Message-- From: Allan Streib Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List ReplyTo: Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Feb 6, 2010 4:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] *sigh* On Sat, 06 Feb 2010 13:51 -0800, "Dimitri Seretakis" wrote: > Hmmm. I'll stick with the OEM product! Nothing like piece of mind. Any part or vehicle can have manufacturing flaws. Look at Toyota right now, those cars are 100% factory and are under recall. There are no marques that have never had a safety recall. This really is sounding like an unfortunate assembly error, not a deliberate skimping on materials or specs. The manufacturer didn't save any money by not tightening the bolts all the way. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] *sigh*
On a side note, years ago, I was down in NY and found myself in a JC Penny store. Their catalog had a small flag of origin beside each product. I thought it was a great idea providing such info for customers. I'd love to see the idea applied to more catalogs, both online or hard copy. It's something I often ask about before making a purchase, and having the info available along with the description would be of benefit to me when making a purchase decisions. Thanks Ed 300E On 6 February 2010 16:49, wrote: > > As I stated earlier, I sold 3 that fall under recall and notified those 2 > customers on Friday. So anyone on this list is not in any jeapordy if you > bought them fome me. I haven't heard how many Gary has sold that were made > during that 5 month period. > > > Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld > > -Original Message- > From: Gary Hurst > Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 16:41:25 > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] *sigh* > > just go climb under and check the bolts, man. they are probably fine. if > like 2 are missing and the rest are loose, replace the axle shaft. if it's > under teh recall, worldpac will pay your part and labor. if it's not under > the recall, you are just stuck unless they can maybe be covered under that > standard warranty, which would be parts only > > it's reallyu not complicated at all > > > On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 4:36 PM, wrote: > > > > > It fits W114, W115, W107, W123 > > > > > > --Original Message-- > > From: Mitch Haley > > Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com > > To: Mercedes Discussion List > > ReplyTo: Mercedes Discussion List > > Sent: Feb 6, 2010 4:33 PM > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] *sigh* > > > > Gary Hurst wrote: > > > > > if you happen to own those cheap chinese axle shafts, i have posted the > > > worldpac instructions for keeping yourself alive. i'm sorry if this > > > interferes with your fan club activities. > > > > The instructions you posted have a 107 part number. Is that the only one > > affected by the recall? I searched your site by part number and by > looking > > up > > the axle for a 380SL, same part. Are there any non-107 chassis vehicles > > that use > > that part? > > > > Mitch. > > > > > > > >___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld > >___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > -- > save 5% on our already low, low prices. use coupon code DAVE at checkout. > www. BuyEUROparts.com > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] *sigh*
On Sat, 06 Feb 2010 13:51 -0800, "Dimitri Seretakis" wrote: > Hmmm. I'll stick with the OEM product! Nothing like piece of mind. Any part or vehicle can have manufacturing flaws. Look at Toyota right now, those cars are 100% factory and are under recall. There are no marques that have never had a safety recall. This really is sounding like an unfortunate assembly error, not a deliberate skimping on materials or specs. The manufacturer didn't save any money by not tightening the bolts all the way. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
