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It all depends on the area and what industries they are serving. Around here we have hot and cold running chicken plants and there's more than enough fat and trimmin's to keep the Mabeline factory going along with a number of other places that use the bulk processed stuff ( a bunch of years ago, I drove a gut wagon for one of those rendering plants...and no, you never get used to the smell, you just get to where you don't have to fight the urge to hurl...as much) Small restaurant pickup is an inconvenience, they charge to pick it up , plus rent on the bin ( one collector will let them have the bin free so long as they have X amount at every scheduled pickup) In some areas , the rendering plants pay the restaurants. It just depends where you are. Robert Allan Streib wrote: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Market for what? My understanding is that they haul it away for free or even charge the fast food outlets to get rid of it. Well you know I don't know if they pay or get paid to have it taken away. But the real point is, it *is* already being reprocessed. And there is not enough of it to make even a tiny dent in our diesel fuel consumption. It's fine for an individual or small co/op if they strike up a deal with a local fry joint to take their old oil, but that's about it.
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Such mechanism does exist.Google it and see for yourself. Mike - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 1:30 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Soy 81 300D and how does this help them for spot inspection? if you need more money in the projects just so badly, i'd have no opposition to this as long as a simple mechanism actually exists. (i suspect you just made this up and don't really know any better than i do if any such mechanism exists. it would not surprise me if no mechanism existed or any mechanism would require a team of accountants and $72k in equipment to implement). i'd still be inclined to give them a pass. not only give them a pass, but give them some sort of positive recognition for their contributions. On 6/12/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: what mechanism do you offer the veggie guys to pay their share? how can they even do it if they wanted to? Keep track of how many gallons they put in their car. Send the gov't a check every quarter for the taxes due. Not so hard. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So, what is the going rate of road tax for hybrid electric vehicles? Do we calculate KWH and apply an electric tax? How about a pedal car? Do we tax the fries and burger consumed for lunch as a motive fuel? Funny you bring that up, in fact the taxing authorities are in a quiet panic because if real gains in fuel economy come to pass, they are in for a severe hit in the pocket book. Even discounting the false economy of the hybrid vehicle, conventional gasoline and diesel passenger vehicles today can achieve 40+ MPG, and if this is the next wave of what people buy the resulting drop in fuel consumption is going to put the pinch on budgets. [...] I really have to think that it is never going to become a widespread source of power. It is more of a Mother Earth News hippie back to the land sort of idea. Not very practical for most of us in urban settings with no barn to store the mess. You are correct, and as more light is shined into the dark corners of the bio fuel world, we find that it is not as environmently friendly as it might first appear, either. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article1909827.ece -- 1983 300D 1966 230
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Seems IIRC there is a plan to put a GPS tag on cars to monitor how much they are driven and then tax you for that. PDX is doing a test of this system. Even had some idiots apply to be test subjects. Think there was talk of a test' here in Seattle too. Greenies On Jun 12, 2007, at 2:20 PM, R A Bennell wrote: So, what is the going rate of road tax for hybrid electric vehicles? Do we calculate KWH and apply an electric tax? How about a pedal car? Do we tax the fries and burger consumed for lunch as a motive fuel? If we convert used veggie oil, do we get a rebate on the tax charged to the restaurant for the cooking oil? Seems to me that the taxing authorities should just back off and leave the veggie wierdos alone for the moment. Anyone willing to fool around with that mess and put their vehicle engine at some risk in using it should reap some silly benefit. I really have to think that it is never going to become a widespread source of power. It is more of a Mother Earth News hippie back to the land sort of idea. Not very practical for most of us in urban settings with no barn to store the mess. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 9:41 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Soy 81 300D Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: what mechanism do you offer the veggie guys to pay their share? how can they even do it if they wanted to? Keep track of how many gallons they put in their car. Send the gov't a check every quarter for the taxes due. Not so hard. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Seems IIRC there is a plan to put a GPS tag on cars to monitor how much they are driven and then tax you for that. PDX is doing a test of this system. Even had some idiots apply to be test subjects. Think there was talk of a test' here in Seattle too. Greenies Ya know, if it was just an odometer not a GPS, and they did away with fuel taxes as a trade, I could probably live with that. I think a mandatory government GPS on cars would violate the constitution in several ways. -- 1983 300D 1966 230
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It seems than at Wed, 13 Jun 2007 00:11:51 -0400, Allan wrote: I think a mandatory government GPS on cars would violate the constitution in several ways. The Constitution of the United States seems to not even slow them down *sigh* -- Philip
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It seems than at Tue, 12 Jun 2007 23:41:45 -0400, Allan wrote: I really have to think that it is never going to become a widespread source of power. It is more of a Mother Earth News hippie back to the land sort of idea. Not very practical for most of us in urban settings with no barn to store the mess. You are correct, and as more light is shined into the dark corners of the bio fuel world, we find that it is not as environmently friendly as it might first appear, either. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article1909827.ece That report may be accurate, but the heading is twisted. Just because the currently popular oil sources have trouble doesn't mean the whole idea is wrong. I think the _concept_ is right, but the current implementation is flawed. Algae and waste biomass (like the turkey processing plant) is the right choice for the oil source. Certainly not soybeans! Algae can feed on our trash, and waste biomass is, well, waste. To turn trash into fuel deals with two problems. Maybe not enough to _solve_ them both. --Philip, arm-chair expert on anything.
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The friendliest biofuel is used McSoybean oil that would otherwise serve to create some really low value product, or simply trashed On 6/13/07, Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems than at Tue, 12 Jun 2007 23:41:45 -0400, Allan wrote: I really have to think that it is never going to become a widespread source of power. It is more of a Mother Earth News hippie back to the land sort of idea. Not very practical for most of us in urban settings with no barn to store the mess. You are correct, and as more light is shined into the dark corners of the bio fuel world, we find that it is not as environmently friendly as it might first appear, either. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article1909827.ece That report may be accurate, but the heading is twisted. Just because the currently popular oil sources have trouble doesn't mean the whole idea is wrong. I think the _concept_ is right, but the current implementation is flawed. Algae and waste biomass (like the turkey processing plant) is the right choice for the oil source. Certainly not soybeans! Algae can feed on our trash, and waste biomass is, well, waste. To turn trash into fuel deals with two problems. Maybe not enough to _solve_ them both. --Philip, arm-chair expert on anything. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The friendliest biofuel is used McSoybean oil that would otherwise serve to create some really low value product, or simply trashed Unfortunately not only is the amount of waste oil from McDonalds a drop in the bucket compared to the amount of fuel we buy daily for our vehicles (a typical restaurant will discard 5 - 10 gallons a day) most of that is already spoken for; used fry oil is generally sold to rendering companies who pick it up and use it to make things like soap. This market has been well established for decades. -- 1983 300D 1966 230
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Market for what? My understanding is that they haul it away for free or even charge the fast food outlets to get rid of it. On 6/13/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The friendliest biofuel is used McSoybean oil that would otherwise serve to create some really low value product, or simply trashed Unfortunately not only is the amount of waste oil from McDonalds a drop in the bucket compared to the amount of fuel we buy daily for our vehicles (a typical restaurant will discard 5 - 10 gallons a day) most of that is already spoken for; used fry oil is generally sold to rendering companies who pick it up and use it to make things like soap. This market has been well established for decades. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Market for what? My understanding is that they haul it away for free or even charge the fast food outlets to get rid of it. Well you know I don't know if they pay or get paid to have it taken away. But the real point is, it *is* already being reprocessed. And there is not enough of it to make even a tiny dent in our diesel fuel consumption. It's fine for an individual or small co/op if they strike up a deal with a local fry joint to take their old oil, but that's about it. -- 1983 300D 1966 230
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actually, my research says the gov considers it a fuel additive for personal use and you do not have to pay taxes. That is 2nd hand from a local biodiesel expert who has fully researched it wilton strickland wrote: Guy in Charlotte, NC, fined $1k for not paying state tax on soy oil in his 81 300D; possible $1k fed fine, too. Also trying to get him to post $2500 bond for future use. Guy was caught entering Lowe's Speedway where revenooers were checking Diesel motorhomes for illegal fuel. They read his bumper sticker saying, Powered by 100% veggie oil. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Probably depends on which government you're talking about -- there are at least Fed. and State taxes, and local taxes on fuel some places, I'm guessing. I thought I read somewhere that OK has a form for declaring and paying the fuel tax for fuel that you make yourself, but I could be dreaming that also. On 6/11/07, Kaleb C. Striplin, Laptop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: actually, my research says the gov considers it a fuel additive for personal use and you do not have to pay taxes. That is 2nd hand from a local biodiesel expert who has fully researched it -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy. -James Madison '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
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Feds give an exemption for upto 400 gal per quarter of the year. Some states follow this. Arkansas requires that I pay $0.185/gal tax. YMMV in your state. Luther On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 19:30:07 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin, Laptop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: actually, my research says the gov considers it a fuel additive for personal use and you do not have to pay taxes. That is 2nd hand from a local biodiesel expert who has fully researched it wilton strickland wrote: Guy in Charlotte, NC, fined $1k for not paying state tax on soy oil in his 81 300D; possible $1k fed fine, too. Also trying to get him to post $2500 bond for future use. Guy was caught entering Lowe's Speedway where revenooers were checking Diesel motorhomes for illegal fuel. They read his bumper sticker saying, Powered by 100% veggie oil. Wilton Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine
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His veggie bumper sticker gave him away. How long after he got home until the razor blade came out, I wonder? -- Jim
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give them a free ride then do you think it's a good thing or a bad thing to reduce one's dependence on fossil fuels? do you think it is better to use recycled waste products as a fuel source or do you prefer something some nice new none renewable fossil fuel, perhaps sourced from a place where the natives want you dead? how much money in taxes do you think you are losing to the veggie oil guys? do you think it will materially effect the quality of the roads you and I pay for? what mechanism do you offer the veggie guys to pay their share? how can they even do it if they wanted to? end this tyranny. give the veggie guys a pass! On 6/11/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Gubmint and their infernal taxes reach out to everybody. Even though veggie oil takes a lot of work to collect, process and convert the vehicle, the gubmint will reach into his pocket after not helping at any part of the process. Fuel taxes are supposed to fund the construction and maintenance of roads and related infrastructure. They have nothing to do with funding the production or processing of the fuel, the oil companies have that burden, often complicated by arcane government-mandated regional fuel formulation requirements. Now I don't know if those funds are ever diverted elsewhere, but the theory is good IMO and as far as taxes go they are actually well-justified if used for their intended purpose. People who dodge fuel taxes are getting a free ride on YOUR roads. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: what mechanism do you offer the veggie guys to pay their share? how can they even do it if they wanted to? Keep track of how many gallons they put in their car. Send the gov't a check every quarter for the taxes due. Not so hard. -- 1983 300D 1966 230
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and how does this help them for spot inspection? if you need more money in the projects just so badly, i'd have no opposition to this as long as a simple mechanism actually exists. (i suspect you just made this up and don't really know any better than i do if any such mechanism exists. it would not surprise me if no mechanism existed or any mechanism would require a team of accountants and $72k in equipment to implement). i'd still be inclined to give them a pass. not only give them a pass, but give them some sort of positive recognition for their contributions. On 6/12/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: what mechanism do you offer the veggie guys to pay their share? how can they even do it if they wanted to? Keep track of how many gallons they put in their car. Send the gov't a check every quarter for the taxes due. Not so hard. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Neither does BioD. It is purchased from a card lock and has taxes paid, so the revenooor would be pounding sand to get cash out of me. AS long as I keep one gallon of diesel in the mix, there is no way they could figure I had not paid taxes for the tank of fuel. On Jun 11, 2007, at 8:39 AM, Marshall Booth wrote: Allan Streib wrote: Well, so assuming he did not put red dye in his own bio-diesel, what aside from the bumper sticker gave him away? Veggie oil doesn't smell like diesel! Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
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So, what is the going rate of road tax for hybrid electric vehicles? Do we calculate KWH and apply an electric tax? How about a pedal car? Do we tax the fries and burger consumed for lunch as a motive fuel? If we convert used veggie oil, do we get a rebate on the tax charged to the restaurant for the cooking oil? Seems to me that the taxing authorities should just back off and leave the veggie wierdos alone for the moment. Anyone willing to fool around with that mess and put their vehicle engine at some risk in using it should reap some silly benefit. I really have to think that it is never going to become a widespread source of power. It is more of a Mother Earth News hippie back to the land sort of idea. Not very practical for most of us in urban settings with no barn to store the mess. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 9:41 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Soy 81 300D Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: what mechanism do you offer the veggie guys to pay their share? how can they even do it if they wanted to? Keep track of how many gallons they put in their car. Send the gov't a check every quarter for the taxes due. Not so hard. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Ouch! I saw the Revenooers checking pickups entering the Farm Progress show (big) a couple of years ago. A few farmers make homebrew, but the Revenooers were primarily looking for red dyed off road fuel. I am sure they got their quota for the year in a few days of Farm Progress I could see this because the trucks were backed up from the entrance to the overpass over I 35 where I was driving. Saw the Revenooers on the overpass dipping tanks. If you don't pay fuel tax, stay away from big crowds. It takes 2-3 tankfulls to get the red dye out of a tank. I buy road fuel for the tractors this time of year, because I am too cheap to pay for filling the Diesel tank with off-road fuel. (and it don't get stolen if it ain't there) I can see how long it takes to get the red out. Not much difference in price. On-farm delivery is convenient, but the jobbers and oil companies eat up most of the 50 cents or so of tax savings. At 09:33 AM 6/11/2007, you wrote: Guy in Charlotte, NC, fined $1k for not paying state tax on soy oil in his 81 300D; possible $1k fed fine, too. Also trying to get him to post $2500 bond for future use. Guy was caught entering Lowe's Speedway where revenooers were checking Diesel motorhomes for illegal fuel. They read his bumper sticker saying, Powered by 100% veggie oil. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth
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Well, so assuming he did not put red dye in his own bio-diesel, what aside from the bumper sticker gave him away? Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I saw the Revenooers checking pickups entering the Farm Progress show (big) a couple of years ago. A few farmers make homebrew, but the Revenooers were primarily looking for red dyed off road fuel. I am sure they got their quota for the year in a few days of Farm Progress [...] -- 1983 300D 1966 230
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Allan Streib wrote: Well, so assuming he did not put red dye in his own bio-diesel, what aside from the bumper sticker gave him away? Veggie oil doesn't smell like diesel! Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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exhaust smell perhaps? I am sure the revenooers have their training on how to detect taxed Diesel vs untaxed. Anyone on the list with direct experience? Loren At 10:22 AM 6/11/2007, you wrote: Well, so assuming he did not put red dye in his own bio-diesel, what aside from the bumper sticker gave him away? Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I saw the Revenooers checking pickups entering the Farm Progress show (big) a couple of years ago. A few farmers make homebrew, but the Revenooers were primarily looking for red dyed off road fuel. I am sure they got their quota for the year in a few days of Farm Progress [...] -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth
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It would seem the bumper sticker is a I'm guilty declaration. The Gubmint and their infernal taxes reach out to everybody. Even though veggie oil takes a lot of work to collect, process and convert the vehicle, the gubmint will reach into his pocket after not helping at any part of the process. Typical I guess - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 11:22 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Soy 81 300D Well, so assuming he did not put red dye in his own bio-diesel, what aside from the bumper sticker gave him away? Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I saw the Revenooers checking pickups entering the Farm Progress show (big) a couple of years ago. A few farmers make homebrew, but the Revenooers were primarily looking for red dyed off road fuel. I am sure they got their quota for the year in a few days of Farm Progress [...] -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.13/843 - Release Date: 6/10/2007 1:39 PM
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LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Gubmint and their infernal taxes reach out to everybody. Even though veggie oil takes a lot of work to collect, process and convert the vehicle, the gubmint will reach into his pocket after not helping at any part of the process. Fuel taxes are supposed to fund the construction and maintenance of roads and related infrastructure. They have nothing to do with funding the production or processing of the fuel, the oil companies have that burden, often complicated by arcane government-mandated regional fuel formulation requirements. Now I don't know if those funds are ever diverted elsewhere, but the theory is good IMO and as far as taxes go they are actually well-justified if used for their intended purpose. People who dodge fuel taxes are getting a free ride on YOUR roads. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230
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wilton strickland wrote: Guy was caught entering Lowe's Speedway where revenooers were checking Diesel motorhomes for illegal fuel. They read his bumper sticker saying, Powered by 100% veggie oil. It pays to advertise!
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Allan writes:Fuel taxes are supposed to fund the construction and maintenance of roads and related infrastructure I fear the taxes are put into a big pot and used for whatever the gov't decides. Just like Social Security. We continually see various Bond inititives offered to fund new construction - or the dreaded toll road - of which we have several around here. Even the local section of I95 had a portion with tolls - until they built a by-pass around the cities and sections where the roads were located. ;-) Made a lot of people happy. My problem wasn't paying the toll so much as the horrendous traffic jam the collection booths caused. Every 10 mi or so, - everybody stops and tosses a quarter or 2 into the hopper - then races to the next stop. ;-) Have a nice week - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 12:45 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Soy 81 300D LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Gubmint and their infernal taxes reach out to everybody. Even though veggie oil takes a lot of work to collect, process and convert the vehicle, the gubmint will reach into his pocket after not helping at any part of the process. Fuel taxes are supposed to fund the construction and maintenance of roads and related infrastructure. They have nothing to do with funding the production or processing of the fuel, the oil companies have that burden, often complicated by arcane government-mandated regional fuel formulation requirements. Now I don't know if those funds are ever diverted elsewhere, but the theory is good IMO and as far as taxes go they are actually well-justified if used for their intended purpose. People who dodge fuel taxes are getting a free ride on YOUR roads. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.13/843 - Release Date: 6/10/2007 1:39 PM
