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You have to bleed it with SDS. 

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Re: [MBZ] Tedious shop work

2023-05-03 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes

There is a very specific procedure for SBC cars. It might have been changed 
when they did the accumulator replacement 

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> On May 3, 2023, at 2:39 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On the subject of brakes, if I wanted to do a fluid flush on my W211 can I 
> just use my pressure bleeder on the fluid reservoir as I have done with older 
> (non-ABS) cars?
> 
>> On Wed, May 3, 2023, at 13:32, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> It would have been a 2006 or 2008 model, I don’t recall which one. At 
>> least I think it was the Focus. Could have been Mrs. Dan’s former 2006 
>> Mazda6, which was a Ford for all intents and purposes.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
 On May 3, 2023, at 11:27 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I've heard of this but never had a car where I could not just press the 
>>> cylinder back with a clamp. Ford must have introduced it in a later model 
>>> year than the Focus I had ('03).
>>> 
>>> On Wed, May 3, 2023, at 12:21, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
 I had to buy one of those little “cubes” to crank the piston down when 
 we had Ford Focii in the house. C-clamped and beat on the thing before
 I did some research to discover that the piston has to be screwed back 
 into the caliper. Weird.
 
 I’m very pleased with the HF hand tool set I bought to start the new 
 collection at the AZ manse. They work just fine and seem to be made 
 well.
 
 -D
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Tedious shop work

For the heavy pallet racks, yes.

-D

> On May 3, 2023, at 2:14 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Anytime I see shelving for sale it seems like they want more than it would 
> cost new. 
> 
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>> On May 3, 2023, at 3:26 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Tedious shop work

Anytime I see shelving for sale it seems like they want more than it would cost 
new. 

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> On May 3, 2023, at 3:26 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
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Re: [MBZ] Tedious shop work

If it’s SBC, then no. 

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> On May 3, 2023, at 1:39 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On the subject of brakes, if I wanted to do a fluid flush on my W211 can I 
> just use my pressure bleeder on the fluid reservoir as I have done with older 
> (non-ABS) cars?
> 
>> On Wed, May 3, 2023, at 13:32, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> It would have been a 2006 or 2008 model, I don’t recall which one. At 
>> least I think it was the Focus. Could have been Mrs. Dan’s former 2006 
>> Mazda6, which was a Ford for all intents and purposes.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
 On May 3, 2023, at 11:27 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I've heard of this but never had a car where I could not just press the 
>>> cylinder back with a clamp. Ford must have introduced it in a later model 
>>> year than the Focus I had ('03).
>>> 
>>> On Wed, May 3, 2023, at 12:21, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
 I had to buy one of those little “cubes” to crank the piston down when 
 we had Ford Focii in the house. C-clamped and beat on the thing before 
 I did some research to discover that the piston has to be screwed back 
 into the caliper. Weird.
 
 I’m very pleased with the HF hand tool set I bought to start the new 
 collection at the AZ manse. They work just fine and seem to be made 
 well.
 
 -D
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Tedious shop work

I went on a wire shelf bender a few years ago. You know, the stainless steel 
ones like they use in commercial kitchens. You can pick up the real thing 
stupid cheap on FB marketplace and Craigslist. Most of mine have casters, too, 
so they can be moved around if I chose to.

The only drawback is their inability to store small things. For instance, a 
spray can doesn’t sit evenly/upright unless it’s centered on a couple of the 
wires. I did get heavy plastic shelf liner sort of things with a few of them 
and they help.

-D

> On May 3, 2023, at 1:16 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 03/05/2023 8:17 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> I found that the wire racks for pliers work well. 
>> https://www.harborfreight.com/wire-pliers-rack-70022.html
>> 
>> I also found this rack for holding battery powered tools:
>> 
>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09F98P9S5/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8=1
>> 
>> I haven’t found a place to hang it just yet, but I can see where it would be 
>> handy on the side of a tool cart, for example. Organizing things is fun, but 
>> can get expensive.
>> 
>> -D
> 
> My problem in the garage and basement is a lack of wall space. There are lots 
> of ideas for racks and cabinets but I just don't have the wall space for them.
> 
> I need bigger house and a bigger garage, but neither of those is going to 
> happen.
> 
> Randy
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Tedious shop work

2023-05-03 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes


On 03/05/2023 8:17 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

I found that the wire racks for pliers work well. 
https://www.harborfreight.com/wire-pliers-rack-70022.html

I also found this rack for holding battery powered tools:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09F98P9S5/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8=1

I haven’t found a place to hang it just yet, but I can see where it would be 
handy on the side of a tool cart, for example. Organizing things is fun, but 
can get expensive.

-D


My problem in the garage and basement is a lack of wall space. There are 
lots of ideas for racks and cabinets but I just don't have the wall 
space for them.


I need bigger house and a bigger garage, but neither of those is going 
to happen.


Randy


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Re: [MBZ] Tedious shop work

2023-05-03 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes

The highest quality HF stuff comes from Taiwan. If or rather when mainland 
China takes them over, all bets are off.


Rick

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tedious shop work

They’re fine once you wash off the blood of the CCP prisoners

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> On May 3, 2023, at 1:38 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
>
> Poos can’t get enough of the Chinese tools
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On May 3, 2023, at 12:22 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> I had to buy one of those little “cubes” to crank the piston down when we 
>> had Ford Focii in the house. C-clamped and beat on the thing before I did 
>> some research to discover that the piston has to be screwed back into the 
>> caliper. Weird.
>>
>> I’m very pleased with the HF hand tool set I bought to start the new 
>> collection at the AZ manse. They work just fine and seem to be made well.
>>
>> -D
>>
>>>> On May 3, 2023, at 10:17 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
>>>
>>> As my HF kit increases I'm increasingly impressed with their tools.
>>>
>>> For instance if you're still cramming a screwdriver into the caliper to 
>>> push pads back you really need this: 
>>> https://www.harborfreight.com/disc-brake-pad-and-caliper-service-tool-kit-11-piece-63264.html?_br_psugg_q=brake+caliper+tool
>>>
>>> I bought it because VW rear calipers have to rotate as they get pushed 
>>> back. That's not an option, you ruin the calipers if they don't rotate. You 
>>> can buy a little cube thing at the autoparts store and get frustrated and 
>>> chuck it across the garage or you can buy the right tool for the job. For 
>>> $50 it's indispensable when required and just really good the rest of the 
>>> time...
>>>
>>>
>>> -Curt
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 11:28:17 AM EDT, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You guys are a bunch of lightweights. I have a HF not 5 minutes from my 
>>> house. I might go there once a month. No problem getting in/out without 
>>> impulse buys.
>>>
>>> I try to limit my exposure to Chinesium as much as possible. Yes, HF is a 
>>> great resource, but it’s also got a lot of crap.
>>>
>>> -D
>>>
>>>>> On May 3, 2023, at 8:10 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Yes it is
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>> On May 3, 2023, at 8:39 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> to do otherwise is very dangerous
>>>>>
>>>>> --FT
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/3/23 9:31 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
>>>>>> I suppose I should browse more when I go in to HF to look for things 
>>>>>> like that. Typically, I just go in, walk straight to what I need, turn 
>>>>>> around, head to the cash stand and leave.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> AZBob
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On May 3, 2023, at 6:18 AM, dan penoff.com via 
>>>>>>>> Mercedes  wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I found that the wire racks for pliers work 
>>>>>>> well.https://www.harborfreight.com/wire-pliers-rack-70022.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I also found this rack for holding battery powered tools:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09F98P9S5/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8=1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I haven’t found a place to hang it just yet, but I can see where it 
>>>>>>> would be handy on the side of a tool cart, for example. Organizing 
>>>>>>> things is fun, but can get expensive.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -D
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] Tedious shop work

2023-05-03 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes

On the subject of brakes, if I wanted to do a fluid flush on my W211 can I just 
use my pressure bleeder on the fluid reservoir as I have done with older 
(non-ABS) cars?

On Wed, May 3, 2023, at 13:32, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> It would have been a 2006 or 2008 model, I don’t recall which one. At 
> least I think it was the Focus. Could have been Mrs. Dan’s former 2006 
> Mazda6, which was a Ford for all intents and purposes.
>
> -D
>
>> On May 3, 2023, at 11:27 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I've heard of this but never had a car where I could not just press the 
>> cylinder back with a clamp. Ford must have introduced it in a later model 
>> year than the Focus I had ('03).
>> 
>> On Wed, May 3, 2023, at 12:21, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>>> I had to buy one of those little “cubes” to crank the piston down when 
>>> we had Ford Focii in the house. C-clamped and beat on the thing before 
>>> I did some research to discover that the piston has to be screwed back 
>>> into the caliper. Weird.
>>> 
>>> I’m very pleased with the HF hand tool set I bought to start the new 
>>> collection at the AZ manse. They work just fine and seem to be made 
>>> well.
>>> 
>>> -D
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Tedious shop work

It would have been a 2006 or 2008 model, I don’t recall which one. At least I 
think it was the Focus. Could have been Mrs. Dan’s former 2006 Mazda6, which 
was a Ford for all intents and purposes.

-D

> On May 3, 2023, at 11:27 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I've heard of this but never had a car where I could not just press the 
> cylinder back with a clamp. Ford must have introduced it in a later model 
> year than the Focus I had ('03).
> 
> On Wed, May 3, 2023, at 12:21, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> I had to buy one of those little “cubes” to crank the piston down when 
>> we had Ford Focii in the house. C-clamped and beat on the thing before 
>> I did some research to discover that the piston has to be screwed back 
>> into the caliper. Weird.
>> 
>> I’m very pleased with the HF hand tool set I bought to start the new 
>> collection at the AZ manse. They work just fine and seem to be made 
>> well.
>> 
>> -D
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Tedious shop work

2023-05-03 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes

I've heard of this but never had a car where I could not just press the 
cylinder back with a clamp. Ford must have introduced it in a later model year 
than the Focus I had ('03).

On Wed, May 3, 2023, at 12:21, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> I had to buy one of those little “cubes” to crank the piston down when 
> we had Ford Focii in the house. C-clamped and beat on the thing before 
> I did some research to discover that the piston has to be screwed back 
> into the caliper. Weird.
>
> I’m very pleased with the HF hand tool set I bought to start the new 
> collection at the AZ manse. They work just fine and seem to be made 
> well.
>
> -D

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Re: [MBZ] Tedious shop work

2023-05-03 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes

On Wed, May 3, 2023, at 08:17, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

> Organizing things is fun, but can get expensive.

Yes -- if you ever watch Adam Savage on YouTube, it seems that about half his 
projects are just building things to organize other things. He's definitely got 
some OCD going on too.


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Re: [MBZ] Tedious shop work

2023-05-03 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes

They’re fine once you wash off the blood of the CCP prisoners 

--FT
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> On May 3, 2023, at 1:38 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Poos can’t get enough of the Chinese tools 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 3, 2023, at 12:22 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I had to buy one of those little “cubes” to crank the piston down when we 
>> had Ford Focii in the house. C-clamped and beat on the thing before I did 
>> some research to discover that the piston has to be screwed back into the 
>> caliper. Weird.
>> 
>> I’m very pleased with the HF hand tool set I bought to start the new 
>> collection at the AZ manse. They work just fine and seem to be made well.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
 On May 3, 2023, at 10:17 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
>>> 
>>> As my HF kit increases I'm increasingly impressed with their tools.
>>> 
>>> For instance if you're still cramming a screwdriver into the caliper to 
>>> push pads back you really need this: 
>>> https://www.harborfreight.com/disc-brake-pad-and-caliper-service-tool-kit-11-piece-63264.html?_br_psugg_q=brake+caliper+tool
>>> 
>>> I bought it because VW rear calipers have to rotate as they get pushed 
>>> back. That's not an option, you ruin the calipers if they don't rotate. You 
>>> can buy a little cube thing at the autoparts store and get frustrated and 
>>> chuck it across the garage or you can buy the right tool for the job. For 
>>> $50 it's indispensable when required and just really good the rest of the 
>>> time...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Curt
>>> 
>>> 
 On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 11:28:17 AM EDT, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
  wrote: 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> You guys are a bunch of lightweights. I have a HF not 5 minutes from my 
>>> house. I might go there once a month. No problem getting in/out without 
>>> impulse buys.
>>> 
>>> I try to limit my exposure to Chinesium as much as possible. Yes, HF is a 
>>> great resource, but it’s also got a lot of crap.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
> On May 3, 2023, at 8:10 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 Yes it is 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On May 3, 2023, at 8:39 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> to do otherwise is very dangerous
> 
> --FT
> 
>> On 5/3/23 9:31 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
>> I suppose I should browse more when I go in to HF to look for things 
>> like that. Typically, I just go in, walk straight to what I need, turn 
>> around, head to the cash stand and leave.
>> 
>> AZBob
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On May 3, 2023, at 6:18 AM, dan penoff.com via 
 Mercedes  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I found that the wire racks for pliers work 
>>> well.https://www.harborfreight.com/wire-pliers-rack-70022.html
>>> 
>>> I also found this rack for holding battery powered tools:
>>> 
>>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09F98P9S5/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8=1
>>> 
>>> I haven’t found a place to hang it just yet, but I can see where it 
>>> would be handy on the side of a tool cart, for example. Organizing 
>>> things is fun, but can get expensive.
>>> 
>>> -D
> 
> -- 
> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] Tedious shop work

Poos can’t get enough of the Chinese tools 

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> On May 3, 2023, at 12:22 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I had to buy one of those little “cubes” to crank the piston down when we 
> had Ford Focii in the house. C-clamped and beat on the thing before I did 
> some research to discover that the piston has to be screwed back into the 
> caliper. Weird.
> 
> I’m very pleased with the HF hand tool set I bought to start the new 
> collection at the AZ manse. They work just fine and seem to be made well.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On May 3, 2023, at 10:17 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
>> 
>> As my HF kit increases I'm increasingly impressed with their tools.
>> 
>> For instance if you're still cramming a screwdriver into the caliper to push 
>> pads back you really need this: 
>> https://www.harborfreight.com/disc-brake-pad-and-caliper-service-tool-kit-11-piece-63264.html?_br_psugg_q=brake+caliper+tool
>> 
>> I bought it because VW rear calipers have to rotate as they get pushed back. 
>> That's not an option, you ruin the calipers if they don't rotate. You can 
>> buy a little cube thing at the autoparts store and get frustrated and chuck 
>> it across the garage or you can buy the right tool for the job. For $50 it's 
>> indispensable when required and just really good the rest of the time...
>> 
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> 
>> On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 11:28:17 AM EDT, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote: 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> You guys are a bunch of lightweights. I have a HF not 5 minutes from my 
>> house. I might go there once a month. No problem getting in/out without 
>> impulse buys.
>> 
>> I try to limit my exposure to Chinesium as much as possible. Yes, HF is a 
>> great resource, but it’s also got a lot of crap.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
 On May 3, 2023, at 8:10 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes it is 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On May 3, 2023, at 8:39 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 to do otherwise is very dangerous
 
 --FT
 
> On 5/3/23 9:31 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
> I suppose I should browse more when I go in to HF to look for things like 
> that. Typically, I just go in, walk straight to what I need, turn around, 
> head to the cash stand and leave.
> 
> AZBob
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On May 3, 2023, at 6:18 AM, dan penoff.com via 
>>> Mercedes  wrote:
>> 
>> I found that the wire racks for pliers work 
>> well.https://www.harborfreight.com/wire-pliers-rack-70022.html
>> 
>> I also found this rack for holding battery powered tools:
>> 
>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09F98P9S5/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8=1
>> 
>> I haven’t found a place to hang it just yet, but I can see where it 
>> would be handy on the side of a tool cart, for example. Organizing 
>> things is fun, but can get expensive.
>> 
>> -D
 
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Re: [MBZ] Tedious shop work

I had to buy one of those little “cubes” to crank the piston down when we had 
Ford Focii in the house. C-clamped and beat on the thing before I did some 
research to discover that the piston has to be screwed back into the caliper. 
Weird.

I’m very pleased with the HF hand tool set I bought to start the new collection 
at the AZ manse. They work just fine and seem to be made well.

-D

> On May 3, 2023, at 10:17 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> As my HF kit increases I'm increasingly impressed with their tools.
> 
> For instance if you're still cramming a screwdriver into the caliper to push 
> pads back you really need this: 
> https://www.harborfreight.com/disc-brake-pad-and-caliper-service-tool-kit-11-piece-63264.html?_br_psugg_q=brake+caliper+tool
> 
> I bought it because VW rear calipers have to rotate as they get pushed back. 
> That's not an option, you ruin the calipers if they don't rotate. You can buy 
> a little cube thing at the autoparts store and get frustrated and chuck it 
> across the garage or you can buy the right tool for the job. For $50 it's 
> indispensable when required and just really good the rest of the time...
> 
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 11:28:17 AM EDT, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> You guys are a bunch of lightweights. I have a HF not 5 minutes from my 
> house. I might go there once a month. No problem getting in/out without 
> impulse buys.
> 
> I try to limit my exposure to Chinesium as much as possible. Yes, HF is a 
> great resource, but it’s also got a lot of crap.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On May 3, 2023, at 8:10 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes it is 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 3, 2023, at 8:39 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> to do otherwise is very dangerous
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> 
 On 5/3/23 9:31 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
 I suppose I should browse more when I go in to HF to look for things like 
 that. Typically, I just go in, walk straight to what I need, turn around, 
 head to the cash stand and leave.
 
 AZBob
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
>> On May 3, 2023, at 6:18 AM, dan penoff.com via 
>> Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> I found that the wire racks for pliers work 
> well.https://www.harborfreight.com/wire-pliers-rack-70022.html
> 
> I also found this rack for holding battery powered tools:
> 
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09F98P9S5/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8=1
> 
> I haven’t found a place to hang it just yet, but I can see where it would 
> be handy on the side of a tool cart, for example. Organizing things is 
> fun, but can get expensive.
> 
> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Tedious shop work

2023-05-03 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes

As my HF kit increases I'm increasingly impressed with their tools.

For instance if you're still cramming a screwdriver into the caliper to push 
pads back you really need this: 
https://www.harborfreight.com/disc-brake-pad-and-caliper-service-tool-kit-11-piece-63264.html?_br_psugg_q=brake+caliper+tool

I bought it because VW rear calipers have to rotate as they get pushed back. 
That's not an option, you ruin the calipers if they don't rotate. You can buy a 
little cube thing at the autoparts store and get frustrated and chuck it across 
the garage or you can buy the right tool for the job. For $50 it's 
indispensable when required and just really good the rest of the time...

-Curt

On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 11:28:17 AM EDT, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
 wrote: 

You guys are a bunch of lightweights. I have a HF not 5 minutes from my house. 
I might go there once a month. No problem getting in/out without impulse buys.

I try to limit my exposure to Chinesium as much as possible. Yes, HF is a great 
resource, but it’s also got a lot of crap.

-D

> On May 3, 2023, at 8:10 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yes it is 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 3, 2023, at 8:39 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> to do otherwise is very dangerous
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>>> On 5/3/23 9:31 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
>>> I suppose I should browse more when I go in to HF to look for things like 
>>> that. Typically, I just go in, walk straight to what I need, turn around, 
>>> head to the cash stand and leave.
>>> 
>>> AZBob
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On May 3, 2023, at 6:18 AM, dan penoff.com via 
> Mercedes  wrote:

 I found that the wire racks for pliers work 
 well.https://www.harborfreight.com/wire-pliers-rack-70022.html

 I also found this rack for holding battery powered tools:

 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09F98P9S5/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8=1

 I haven’t found a place to hang it just yet, but I can see where it would 
 be handy on the side of a tool cart, for example. Organizing things is 
 fun, but can get expensive.

 -D
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Tedious shop work

You guys are a bunch of lightweights. I have a HF not 5 minutes from my house. 
I might go there once a month. No problem getting in/out without impulse buys.

I try to limit my exposure to Chinesium as much as possible. Yes, HF is a great 
resource, but it’s also got a lot of crap.

-D

> On May 3, 2023, at 8:10 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yes it is 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 3, 2023, at 8:39 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> to do otherwise is very dangerous
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>>> On 5/3/23 9:31 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
>>> I suppose I should browse more when I go in to HF to look for things like 
>>> that. Typically, I just go in, walk straight to what I need, turn around, 
>>> head to the cash stand and leave.
>>> 
>>> AZBob
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On May 3, 2023, at 6:18 AM, dan penoff.com via 
> Mercedes  wrote:
 
 I found that the wire racks for pliers work 
 well.https://www.harborfreight.com/wire-pliers-rack-70022.html
 
 I also found this rack for holding battery powered tools:
 
 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09F98P9S5/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8=1
 
 I haven’t found a place to hang it just yet, but I can see where it would 
 be handy on the side of a tool cart, for example. Organizing things is 
 fun, but can get expensive.
 
 -D
>> 
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Yes it is 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 3, 2023, at 8:39 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> to do otherwise is very dangerous
> 
> --FT
> 
>> On 5/3/23 9:31 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
>> I suppose I should browse more when I go in to HF to look for things like 
>> that. Typically, I just go in, walk straight to what I need, turn around, 
>> head to the cash stand and leave.
>> 
>> AZBob
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On May 3, 2023, at 6:18 AM, dan penoff.com via 
 Mercedes  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I found that the wire racks for pliers work 
>>> well.https://www.harborfreight.com/wire-pliers-rack-70022.html
>>> 
>>> I also found this rack for holding battery powered tools:
>>> 
>>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09F98P9S5/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8=1
>>> 
>>> I haven’t found a place to hang it just yet, but I can see where it would 
>>> be handy on the side of a tool cart, for example. Organizing things is fun, 
>>> but can get expensive.
>>> 
>>> -D
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Tedious shop work

2023-05-03 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes


to do otherwise is very dangerous

--FT

On 5/3/23 9:31 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:

I suppose I should browse more when I go in to HF to look for things like that. 
Typically, I just go in, walk straight to what I need, turn around, head to the 
cash stand and leave.

AZBob

Sent from my iPhone


On May 3, 2023, at 6:18 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes  
wrote:

I found that the wire racks for pliers work 
well.https://www.harborfreight.com/wire-pliers-rack-70022.html

I also found this rack for holding battery powered tools:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09F98P9S5/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8=1

I haven’t found a place to hang it just yet, but I can see where it would be 
handy on the side of a tool cart, for example. Organizing things is fun, but 
can get expensive.

-D


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2023-05-03 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes

I suppose I should browse more when I go in to HF to look for things like that. 
Typically, I just go in, walk straight to what I need, turn around, head to the 
cash stand and leave.

AZBob

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 3, 2023, at 6:18 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I found that the wire racks for pliers work well. 
> https://www.harborfreight.com/wire-pliers-rack-70022.html
> 
> I also found this rack for holding battery powered tools:
> 
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09F98P9S5/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8=1
> 
> I haven’t found a place to hang it just yet, but I can see where it would be 
> handy on the side of a tool cart, for example. Organizing things is fun, but 
> can get expensive.
> 
> -D
> 
> On May 2, 2023, at 1:27 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> 
> That is what I went with for regular sockets, although the HF ones only go up 
> to 19 or 20 for 3/8 size, and was missing a coupe of sizes on 1/2 and only go 
> up to 29 I believe. I need to figure out something with the sockets that 
> won’t go on those. I am then using those cheap metal socket rails that they 
> snap into for Allen’s, torx etc. I need to see if there is a better storage 
> solution for those. Next I need to work on the wrench drawer, pliers, and 
> screw drivers. So need to get some sort of storage for those. As far as screw 
> drivers go, there might just be in a drawer loose. After this, I’m going to 
> pull everything out of the 46” box on the other side of the shop and load in 
> a 2nd set of tools for that station. I also have 2 of the 5 drawer mechanic 
> carts from HF that roll around that I will load a set of the more common hand 
> tools to roll around the shop as needed, using the top open part for throwing 
> bolts and small parts in while working on a car so they don’t get lost.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 2, 2023, at 3:17 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> 
> Wish I had gone with the plastic socket organizers with the pins like you 
> have rather than the kind that snap in the driver side hole. They can be 
> difficult to get the sockets off some time.
> 
> -D
> 
> On May 2, 2023, at 12:47 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
>  wrote:
> 
> That’s pretty much what I have, a cart that I will roll to the car and dump 
> any bolts and tools in, but then I never put it up and keep dumping more crap 
> on it. Here are some pics of my new box where I have started organizing 
> sockets. Still need to get some more organizers. I also have pics of my big 
> work bench that is vastly improved from yesterday, as well as my other 
> smaller tool box and my service cart. You can see how really bad it is.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 2, 2023, at 1:11 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
>  wrote:
> 
> Here is my solution to the issue of getting tools to the work area and back
> to the "too big to move tool box" ...
> I use it to pull out the tools I think I'll need, it keeps them right at
> hand.. and when I'm done with the project.. tools go back on the cart and
> it rolls back to the big box and get wiped off and put away..
> https://www.harborfreight.com/tool-storage-organization/tool-storage/tool-carts/30-in-x-16-in-three-shelf-steel-service-cart-red-62179.html
> 
> On Tue, May 2, 2023 at 8:44 AM dan 
> penoff.com via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>  wrote:
> 
> Agreed, and it’s a behavior that one has to develop. I’m hard core about
> it (I don’t shadow my tools, so I’m not that bad) and make sure everything
> gets put away when I’m done. I might wait until the job is done if it’s
> something major, otherwise, I put stuff back as soon as I’m done with it.
> 
> -D
> 
> On May 2, 2023, at 8:34 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>  wrote:
> 
> The real trick is keeping everything in its place once it has been
> sorted.
> 
> Randy
> 
> 
> On 01/05/2023 9:00 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:
> On Mon, 1 May 2023 20:43:34 -0500 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
>  wrote:
> 
> Today I spent some time just going around the  shop throwing in a box
> anything socket related, and other box anything screwdriver or wrench
> related.  I then spend a couple of hours loading them into the chest on
> socket holders and/or socket rails.  Basically making complete sets of
> sockets and throwing the extras in a box to then use to make complete
> sets for the tool box on the other side of the shop. Anyway, very time
> consuming but hopefully soon I can then move on to organizing the
> parts.
> Good work. From experience, I

Re: [MBZ] Tedious shop work

I found that the wire racks for pliers work well.
https://www.harborfreight.com/wire-pliers-rack-70022.html

I also found this rack for holding battery powered tools:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09F98P9S5/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8=1

I haven’t found a place to hang it just yet, but I can see where it would be
handy on the side of a tool cart, for example. Organizing things is fun, but
can get expensive.

-D

On May 2, 2023, at 1:27 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

That is what I went with for regular sockets, although the HF ones only go up
to 19 or 20 for 3/8 size, and was missing a coupe of sizes on 1/2 and only go
up to 29 I believe. I need to figure out something with the sockets that won’t
go on those. I am then using those cheap metal socket rails that they snap into
for Allen’s, torx etc. I need to see if there is a better storage solution for
those. Next I need to work on the wrench drawer, pliers, and screw drivers. So
need to get some sort of storage for those. As far as screw drivers go, there
might just be in a drawer loose. After this, I’m going to pull everything out
of the 46” box on the other side of the shop and load in a 2nd set of tools for
that station. I also have 2 of the 5 drawer mechanic carts from HF that roll
around that I will load a set of the more common hand tools to roll around the
shop as needed, using the top open part for throwing bolts and small parts in
while working on a car so they don’t get lost.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 2, 2023, at 3:17 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

Wish I had gone with the plastic socket organizers with the pins like you have
rather than the kind that snap in the driver side hole. They can be difficult
to get the sockets off some time.

-D

On May 2, 2023, at 12:47 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
wrote:

That’s pretty much what I have, a cart that I will roll to the car and dump any
bolts and tools in, but then I never put it up and keep dumping more crap on
it. Here are some pics of my new box where I have started organizing sockets.
Still need to get some more organizers. I also have pics of my big work bench
that is vastly improved from yesterday, as well as my other smaller tool box
and my service cart. You can see how really bad it is.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 2, 2023, at 1:11 PM, G Mann via Mercedes
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
wrote:

Here is my solution to the issue of getting tools to the work area and back
to the "too big to move tool box" ...
I use it to pull out the tools I think I'll need, it keeps them right at
hand.. and when I'm done with the project.. tools go back on the cart and
it rolls back to the big box and get wiped off and put away..
https://www.harborfreight.com/tool-storage-organization/tool-storage/tool-carts/30-in-x-16-in-three-shelf-steel-service-cart-red-62179.html

On Tue, May 2, 2023 at 8:44 AM dan
penoff.com via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com>
wrote:

Agreed, and it’s a behavior that one has to develop. I’m hard core about
it (I don’t shadow my tools, so I’m not that bad) and make sure everything
gets put away when I’m done. I might wait until the job is done if it’s
something major, otherwise, I put stuff back as soon as I’m done with it.

-D

On May 2, 2023, at 8:34 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com>
wrote:

The real trick is keeping everything in its place once it has been
sorted.

Randy

On 01/05/2023 9:00 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:
On Mon, 1 May 2023 20:43:34 -0500 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
wrote:

Today I spent some time just going around the shop throwing in a box
anything socket related, and other box anything screwdriver or wrench
related. I then spend a couple of hours loading them into the chest on
socket holders and/or socket rails. Basically making complete sets of
sockets and throwing the extras in a box to then use to make complete
sets for the tool box on the other side of the shop. Anyway, very time
consuming but hopefully soon I can then move on to organizing the
parts.
Good work. From experience, I can say it will serve you well in the
future.

Craig

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2023-05-02 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes

That is what I went with for regular sockets, although the HF ones only go up 
to 19 or 20 for 3/8 size, and was missing a coupe of sizes on 1/2 and only go 
up to 29 I believe. I need to figure out something with the sockets that won’t 
go on those. I am then using those cheap metal socket rails that they snap into 
for Allen’s, torx etc. I need to see if there is a better storage solution for 
those. Next I need to work on the wrench drawer, pliers, and screw drivers. So 
need to get some sort of storage for those. As far as screw drivers go, there 
might just be in a drawer loose. After this, I’m going to pull everything out 
of the 46” box on the other side of the shop and load in a 2nd set of tools for 
that station. I also have 2 of the 5 drawer mechanic carts from HF that roll 
around that I will load a set of the more common hand tools to roll around the 
shop as needed, using the top open part for throwing bolts and small parts in 
while working on a car so they don’t get lost. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 2, 2023, at 3:17 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Wish I had gone with the plastic socket organizers with the pins like you 
> have rather than the kind that snap in the driver side hole. They can be 
> difficult to get the sockets off some time.
> 
> -D
> 
> On May 2, 2023, at 12:47 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> 
> That’s pretty much what I have, a cart that I will roll to the car and dump 
> any bolts and tools in, but then I never put it up and keep dumping more crap 
> on it. Here are some pics of my new box where I have started organizing 
> sockets. Still need to get some more organizers. I also have pics of my big 
> work bench that is vastly improved from yesterday, as well as my other 
> smaller tool box and my service cart. You can see how really bad it is.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On May 2, 2023, at 1:11 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Here is my solution to the issue of getting tools to the work area and back
>> to the "too big to move tool box" ...
>> I use it to pull out the tools I think I'll need, it keeps them right at
>> hand.. and when I'm done with the project.. tools go back on the cart and
>> it rolls back to the big box and get wiped off and put away..
>> https://www.harborfreight.com/tool-storage-organization/tool-storage/tool-carts/30-in-x-16-in-three-shelf-steel-service-cart-red-62179.html
>> 
>>> On Tue, May 2, 2023 at 8:44 AM dan penoff.com via 
>>> Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Agreed, and it’s a behavior that one has to develop. I’m hard core about
>>> it (I don’t shadow my tools, so I’m not that bad) and make sure everything
>>> gets put away when I’m done. I might wait until the job is done if it’s
>>> something major, otherwise, I put stuff back as soon as I’m done with it.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On May 2, 2023, at 8:34 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 The real trick is keeping everything in its place once it has been
>>> sorted.
 
 Randy
 
 
 On 01/05/2023 9:00 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:
> On Mon, 1 May 2023 20:43:34 -0500 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> 
>> Today I spent some time just going around the  shop throwing in a box
>> anything socket related, and other box anything screwdriver or wrench
>> related.  I then spend a couple of hours loading them into the chest on
>> socket holders and/or socket rails.  Basically making complete sets of
>> sockets and throwing the extras in a box to then use to make complete
>> sets for the tool box on the other side of the shop. Anyway, very time
>> consuming but hopefully soon I can then move on to organizing the
>>> parts.
> Good work. From experience, I can say it will serve you well in the
> future.
> 
> 
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Wish I had gone with the plastic socket organizers with the pins like you have 
rather than the kind that snap in the driver side hole. They can be difficult 
to get the sockets off some time.

-D

On May 2, 2023, at 12:47 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

That’s pretty much what I have, a cart that I will roll to the car and dump any 
bolts and tools in, but then I never put it up and keep dumping more crap on 
it. Here are some pics of my new box where I have started organizing sockets. 
Still need to get some more organizers. I also have pics of my big work bench 
that is vastly improved from yesterday, as well as my other smaller tool box 
and my service cart. You can see how really bad it is.








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> On May 2, 2023, at 1:11 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>
> Here is my solution to the issue of getting tools to the work area and back
> to the "too big to move tool box" ...
> I use it to pull out the tools I think I'll need, it keeps them right at
> hand.. and when I'm done with the project.. tools go back on the cart and
> it rolls back to the big box and get wiped off and put away..
> https://www.harborfreight.com/tool-storage-organization/tool-storage/tool-carts/30-in-x-16-in-three-shelf-steel-service-cart-red-62179.html
>
>> On Tue, May 2, 2023 at 8:44 AM dan penoff.com via 
>> Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> Agreed, and it’s a behavior that one has to develop. I’m hard core about
>> it (I don’t shadow my tools, so I’m not that bad) and make sure everything
>> gets put away when I’m done. I might wait until the job is done if it’s
>> something major, otherwise, I put stuff back as soon as I’m done with it.
>>
>> -D
>>
>>> On May 2, 2023, at 8:34 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> The real trick is keeping everything in its place once it has been
>> sorted.
>>>
>>> Randy
>>>
>>>
>>> On 01/05/2023 9:00 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:
 On Mon, 1 May 2023 20:43:34 -0500 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
 mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

> Today I spent some time just going around the  shop throwing in a box
> anything socket related, and other box anything screwdriver or wrench
> related.  I then spend a couple of hours loading them into the chest on
> socket holders and/or socket rails.  Basically making complete sets of
> sockets and throwing the extras in a box to then use to make complete
> sets for the tool box on the other side of the shop. Anyway, very time
> consuming but hopefully soon I can then move on to organizing the
>> parts.
 Good work. From experience, I can say it will serve you well in the
 future.


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Re: [MBZ] Tedious shop work

2023-05-02 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes

Exactly my use for the old AV cart I bought at the university surplus store.

It's just a rectangular three-shelf steel cart on good quality rubber-wheel 
casters with a rubber mat on the top shelf.

Easy to wheel around the car as I'm working on it, and easy to wheel back to 
the tool storage area when I'm done.


On Tue, May 2, 2023, at 13:10, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
> Here is my solution to the issue of getting tools to the work area and 
> back
> to the "too big to move tool box" ...
> I use it to pull out the tools I think I'll need, it keeps them right at
> hand.. and when I'm done with the project.. tools go back on the cart 
> and
> it rolls back to the big box and get wiped off and put away..
> https://www.harborfreight.com/tool-storage-organization/tool-storage/tool-carts/30-in-x-16-in-three-shelf-steel-service-cart-red-62179.html

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Re: [MBZ] Tedious shop work

2023-05-02 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes

Awesome. I'm happy for you.

Rick

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Subject: [MBZ] Tedious shop work

Last year I moved several of the nice cars out of the shop to organize
it, put up the lift etc and they have been sitting outside way too
long.  Now that I have that 450SEL done and out of the shop ready to go
off to its new owner at the end of the week, I have decided to move the
large 72" tool chest with top chest into place and start filling it in
an organized fashion.  Today I spent some time just going around the
shop throwing in a box anything socket related, and other box anything
screwdriver or wrench related.  I then spend a couple of hours loading
them into the chest on socket holders and/or socket rails.  Basically
making complete sets of sockets and throwing the extras in a box to then
use to make complete sets for the tool box on the other side of the
shop. Anyway, very time consuming but hopefully soon I can then move on
to organizing the parts.

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Re: [MBZ] Tedious shop work

I have a big roll-around box at both houses. One I made many years ago and has 
served me well, the other a brand new Crapsman roll around box that’s medium 
height.

“Roll around” is kind of a misnomer, as I never roll either around, they both 
have dedicated spots agains the wall of the shop that they’re not moved from. I 
guess if I had a larger area to work in I would roll my big boxes around, but 
they’re both within a few steps of any bay in the garage.

I did just that when I outfitted the Flagstaff shop - socket organizers, racks 
for pliers, etc., etc. Not cheap to do, but they definitely make things far 
better organized and they do save some space. I’m spoiled when I do any work 
there, as it’s so better organized than my setup at the Florida house. That’s 
one of the reasons why I have considered dropping some coin for garage storage 
stuff - it just makes life so much easier.

-D

> On May 2, 2023, at 9:03 AM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 2 May 2023 13:33:58 + "dan penoff.com via Mercedes"
>  wrote:
> 
>> While it’s not in the current budget, I can see the value in those
>> garage cabinet systems. Things get stored out of the way and are
>> organized so they’re easy to locate. Of course, half the battle is
>> putting things away where they belong when you’re done with them.
> 
> I have found, though some here have derided them, a large tool box to be
> very helpful in keeping things organized. When I was in my teens and 20s,
> the saying, "A place for everything and everything in its place," was
> abhorred, but it's the only way to have things work consistently.
> 
> The type of socket organizers like:
> 
> https://www.harborfreight.com/peg-type-sae-socket-tray-3-piece-red-70019.html
> 
> do take a lot of room -- as I found when setting up my new-to-me tool box
> and why a large tool box is necessary, but they make organizing sockets
> very easy. No more will I lose a socket by having a small socket somehow
> get inside a larger socket and not be visible when looking in the drawer.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Tedious shop work

2023-05-02 Thread G Mann via Mercedes

Here is my solution to the issue of getting tools to the work area and back
to the "too big to move tool box" ...
I use it to pull out the tools I think I'll need, it keeps them right at
hand.. and when I'm done with the project.. tools go back on the cart and
it rolls back to the big box and get wiped off and put away..
https://www.harborfreight.com/tool-storage-organization/tool-storage/tool-carts/30-in-x-16-in-three-shelf-steel-service-cart-red-62179.html

On Tue, May 2, 2023 at 8:44 AM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Agreed, and it’s a behavior that one has to develop. I’m hard core about
> it (I don’t shadow my tools, so I’m not that bad) and make sure everything
> gets put away when I’m done. I might wait until the job is done if it’s
> something major, otherwise, I put stuff back as soon as I’m done with it.
>
> -D
>
> > On May 2, 2023, at 8:34 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > The real trick is keeping everything in its place once it has been
> sorted.
> >
> > Randy
> >
> >
> > On 01/05/2023 9:00 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:
> >> On Mon, 1 May 2023 20:43:34 -0500 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >>> Today I spent some time just going around the  shop throwing in a box
> >>> anything socket related, and other box anything screwdriver or wrench
> >>> related.  I then spend a couple of hours loading them into the chest on
> >>> socket holders and/or socket rails.  Basically making complete sets of
> >>> sockets and throwing the extras in a box to then use to make complete
> >>> sets for the tool box on the other side of the shop. Anyway, very time
> >>> consuming but hopefully soon I can then move on to organizing the
> parts.
> >> Good work. From experience, I can say it will serve you well in the
> >> future.
> >>
> >>
> >> Craig
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Tedious shop work

2023-05-02 Thread Craig via Mercedes

On Tue, 2 May 2023 13:33:58 + "dan penoff.com via Mercedes"
 wrote:

> While it’s not in the current budget, I can see the value in those
> garage cabinet systems. Things get stored out of the way and are
> organized so they’re easy to locate. Of course, half the battle is
> putting things away where they belong when you’re done with them.

I have found, though some here have derided them, a large tool box to be
very helpful in keeping things organized. When I was in my teens and 20s,
the saying, "A place for everything and everything in its place," was
abhorred, but it's the only way to have things work consistently.

The type of socket organizers like:

https://www.harborfreight.com/peg-type-sae-socket-tray-3-piece-red-70019.html

do take a lot of room -- as I found when setting up my new-to-me tool box
and why a large tool box is necessary, but they make organizing sockets
very easy. No more will I lose a socket by having a small socket somehow
get inside a larger socket and not be visible when looking in the drawer.

Craig

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Agreed, and it’s a behavior that one has to develop. I’m hard core about it (I 
don’t shadow my tools, so I’m not that bad) and make sure everything gets put 
away when I’m done. I might wait until the job is done if it’s something major, 
otherwise, I put stuff back as soon as I’m done with it.

-D

> On May 2, 2023, at 8:34 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The real trick is keeping everything in its place once it has been sorted.
> 
> Randy
> 
> 
> On 01/05/2023 9:00 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:
>> On Mon, 1 May 2023 20:43:34 -0500 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Today I spent some time just going around the  shop throwing in a box
>>> anything socket related, and other box anything screwdriver or wrench
>>> related.  I then spend a couple of hours loading them into the chest on
>>> socket holders and/or socket rails.  Basically making complete sets of
>>> sockets and throwing the extras in a box to then use to make complete
>>> sets for the tool box on the other side of the shop. Anyway, very time
>>> consuming but hopefully soon I can then move on to organizing the parts.
>> Good work. From experience, I can say it will serve you well in the
>> future.
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Tedious shop work

2023-05-02 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes


The real trick is keeping everything in its place once it has been sorted.

Randy


On 01/05/2023 9:00 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

On Mon, 1 May 2023 20:43:34 -0500 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
 wrote:


Today I spent some time just going around the  shop throwing in a box
anything socket related, and other box anything screwdriver or wrench
related.  I then spend a couple of hours loading them into the chest on
socket holders and/or socket rails.  Basically making complete sets of
sockets and throwing the extras in a box to then use to make complete
sets for the tool box on the other side of the shop. Anyway, very time
consuming but hopefully soon I can then move on to organizing the parts.

Good work. From experience, I can say it will serve you well in the
future.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Tedious shop work

There is a strong likelihood of an expansion of the existing garage to add 
another three bays with an office and restroom. If that gets green lighted, I 
would say the potential for a lift will be very high. I’ll certainly put the 
infrastructure in place if we go forward so that I can do it should I decide to.

-D

> On May 2, 2023, at 8:13 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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> 
> Dan, is there a lift in your AZ future?
> 
> On Tue, May 2, 2023 at 10:58 AM Kevin Kraly via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> WOW, great work!!
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 1, 2023, at 6:43 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Last year I moved several of the nice cars out of the shop to organize
>> it, put up the lift etc and they have been sitting outside way too long.
>> Now that I have that 450SEL done and out of the shop ready to go off to its
>> new owner at the end of the week, I have decided to move the large 72" tool
>> chest with top chest into place and start filling it in an organized
>> fashion.  Today I spent some time just going around the shop throwing in a
>> box anything socket related, and other box anything screwdriver or wrench
>> related.  I then spend a couple of hours loading them into the chest on
>> socket holders and/or socket rails.  Basically making complete sets of
>> sockets and throwing the extras in a box to then use to make complete sets
>> for the tool box on the other side of the shop. Anyway, very time consuming
>> but hopefully soon I can then move on to organizing the parts.
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Re: [MBZ] Tedious shop work

2023-05-02 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes

Dan, is there a lift in your AZ future?

On Tue, May 2, 2023 at 10:58 AM Kevin Kraly via Mercedes <
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> WOW, great work!!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On May 1, 2023, at 6:43 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Last year I moved several of the nice cars out of the shop to organize
> it, put up the lift etc and they have been sitting outside way too long.
> Now that I have that 450SEL done and out of the shop ready to go off to its
> new owner at the end of the week, I have decided to move the large 72" tool
> chest with top chest into place and start filling it in an organized
> fashion.  Today I spent some time just going around the shop throwing in a
> box anything socket related, and other box anything screwdriver or wrench
> related.  I then spend a couple of hours loading them into the chest on
> socket holders and/or socket rails.  Basically making complete sets of
> sockets and throwing the extras in a box to then use to make complete sets
> for the tool box on the other side of the shop. Anyway, very time consuming
> but hopefully soon I can then move on to organizing the parts.
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2023-05-02 Thread Kevin Kraly via Mercedes

WOW, great work!!

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 1, 2023, at 6:43 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Last year I moved several of the nice cars out of the shop to organize it, 
> put up the lift etc and they have been sitting outside way too long.  Now 
> that I have that 450SEL done and out of the shop ready to go off to its new 
> owner at the end of the week, I have decided to move the large 72" tool chest 
> with top chest into place and start filling it in an organized fashion.  
> Today I spent some time just going around the shop throwing in a box anything 
> socket related, and other box anything screwdriver or wrench related.  I then 
> spend a couple of hours loading them into the chest on socket holders and/or 
> socket rails.  Basically making complete sets of sockets and throwing the 
> extras in a box to then use to make complete sets for the tool box on the 
> other side of the shop. Anyway, very time consuming but hopefully soon I can 
> then move on to organizing the parts.
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