[MOPO] The Oscars

[Bruce Hershenson]

It's the morning after, and overall, I thought it was a real snoozefest,
Billy Crystal was entertaining, but *SO *familiar in everything he did and
said. And was I the only one who kept wondering if he might have looked and
performed better if he hadn't had his very obvious plastic surgery? And
isn't it a bad sign when the best segment was the circus art, which has
zero to do with movies.

It hit me when they did the "In Memorium" segment, and there were tons of
behind the scenes people no one knows, with a few famous faces thrown in.
They have successfully turned the Oscars into the Golden Globes, filled
with insiders and inside jokes, where they pretty much ignore the viewing
public, and give the awards to the movies *THEY *like. the kind that the
critics fawn over, but which not many people actually see.

Of course, this transformation has been going on for many years, but at
least they used to *pretend *to care about the people who make it all
possible, those who buy the tickets. And in a day when movies face more and
more competition from all sorts of other kinds of entertainment, it may not
be just the awards ceremony that sees its number of viewers continuing to
fall in coming years.

This was once must-viewing for me. and I have watched it every year, but I
think I will skip it next year.

Bruce

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[MOPO] The Oscars

[channinglylethomson]

It was a good night for the actual winners.  I continue to feel that  
the Oscars are tending in the direction of awarding the rightful films  
the proper awards.  I was pleased that THE HURT LOCKER  won for Best  
Picture.  As to the ceremony itself, I thought all the big-time glamor  
was there and everyone looked great.  The one melancholy thing for me  
was how, for the first time, I really felt the absolute end of Old  
Hollywood.  The Golden Days are long gone, as are the stars.  I'm glad  
I'm old enough to have experienced them as a child when you could see  
the Oscars and still enjoy people like Bob Hope, Myrna Loy, Gregory  
Peck, Merle Oberon, Bette Davis, Olivia DeHavilland and so many more.   
These people were simply larger than life.  Today's star's will never  
measure up simply because, as great as many of them are, they were not  
the people who founded an incredible entertainment industry!


Channing Thomson

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Re: [MOPO] The Oscars

[dreamfactory]

well put  Bruce 
>
> Original Message 
>From: brucehershen...@gmail.com
>To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
>Subject: RE: [MOPO] The Oscars
>Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 06:55:41 -0600
>
>>It's the morning after, and overall, I thought it was a real
>snoozefest,
>>Billy Crystal was entertaining, but *SO *familiar in everything he
>did and
>>said. And was I the only one who kept wondering if he might have
>looked and
>>performed better if he hadn't had his very obvious plastic surgery?
>And
>>isn't it a bad sign when the best segment was the circus art, which
>has
>>zero to do with movies.
>>
>>It hit me when they did the "In Memorium" segment, and there were
>tons of
>>behind the scenes people no one knows, with a few famous faces
>thrown in.
>>They have successfully turned the Oscars into the Golden Globes,
>filled
>>with insiders and inside jokes, where they pretty much ignore the
>viewing
>>public, and give the awards to the movies *THEY *like. the kind that
>the
>>critics fawn over, but which not many people actually see.
>>
>>Of course, this transformation has been going on for many years, but
>at
>>least they used to *pretend *to care about the people who make it
>all
>>possible, those who buy the tickets. And in a day when movies face
>more and
>>more competition from all sorts of other kinds of entertainment, it
>may not
>>be just the awards ceremony that sees its number of viewers
>continuing to
>>fall in coming years.
>>
>>This was once must-viewing for me. and I have watched it every year,
>but I
>>think I will skip it next year.
>>
>>Bruce
>>
>>-- 
>>Bruce Hershenson and the other 24 members of the eMoviePoster.com
>team
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>>West Plains, MO 65775
>>Phone: 417-256-9616 (hours: Mon-Fri 9 to 5 except from 12 to 1 when
>we take
>>lunch)
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Re: [MOPO] The Oscars

[Posteropolis]

What I LIKED about it this year was the emphasis on the love of movies. >From 
the art deco movie theater backdrop to the interviews with stars about their 
first movie experiences and what movies mean to them, the show seemed to want 
to appeal to movie buffs, not just ticket buyers, and there is a difference.

>From what I have read, the producers finally gave up on the 16-24 demographic 
>they have been chasing for the past 10 years and decided to focus on the older 
>viewers who DO like older movies and movies meant for grownups. And that 
>showed in the production. So if it seemed a little tired well, ahem, so is 
>most of the audience.

And In Memorium always features writers, editors and producers (though maybe 
Steve Jobs was a stretch), not just movie stars. My only criticism is, while 
the use of stills was appropriately sombre, the film montage they've used in 
the past worked much better. That said, I think they did a good job of paying 
tribute to those who passed...

Dave

  - Original Message - 
  From: Bruce Hershenson 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 7:55 AM
  Subject: [MOPO] The Oscars


  It's the morning after, and overall, I thought it was a real snoozefest, 
Billy Crystal was entertaining, but SO familiar in everything he did and said. 
And was I the only one who kept wondering if he might have looked and performed 
better if he hadn't had his very obvious plastic surgery? And isn't it a bad 
sign when the best segment was the circus art, which has zero to do with movies.

  It hit me when they did the "In Memorium" segment, and there were tons of 
behind the scenes people no one knows, with a few famous faces thrown in. They 
have successfully turned the Oscars into the Golden Globes, filled with 
insiders and inside jokes, where they pretty much ignore the viewing public, 
and give the awards to the movies THEY like. the kind that the critics fawn 
over, but which not many people actually see.

  Of course, this transformation has been going on for many years, but at least 
they used to pretend to care about the people who make it all possible, those 
who buy the tickets. And in a day when movies face more and more competition 
from all sorts of other kinds of entertainment, it may not be just the awards 
ceremony that sees its number of viewers continuing to fall in coming years.

  This was once must-viewing for me. and I have watched it every year, but I 
think I will skip it next year.

  Bruce

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Re: [MOPO] The Oscars

[Doug Taylor]

I found it to be one of the most boring I can remember.  Even Billy Crystal
seemed bored with the gig.

 

Frankly, it has never been a particularly good show, but this was one of the
least entertaining IMHO.

 

Regards

 

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Hershenson
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 7:56 AM
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Subject: [MOPO] The Oscars

 

It's the morning after, and overall, I thought it was a real snoozefest,
Billy Crystal was entertaining, but SO familiar in everything he did and
said. And was I the only one who kept wondering if he might have looked and
performed better if he hadn't had his very obvious plastic surgery? And
isn't it a bad sign when the best segment was the circus art, which has zero
to do with movies.

It hit me when they did the "In Memorium" segment, and there were tons of
behind the scenes people no one knows, with a few famous faces thrown in.
They have successfully turned the Oscars into the Golden Globes, filled with
insiders and inside jokes, where they pretty much ignore the viewing public,
and give the awards to the movies THEY like. the kind that the critics fawn
over, but which not many people actually see.

Of course, this transformation has been going on for many years, but at
least they used to pretend to care about the people who make it all
possible, those who buy the tickets. And in a day when movies face more and
more competition from all sorts of other kinds of entertainment, it may not
be just the awards ceremony that sees its number of viewers continuing to
fall in coming years.

This was once must-viewing for me. and I have watched it every year, but I
think I will skip it next year.

Bruce

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Re: [MOPO] The Oscars

[Steven Hill]

Except that, unless countless other sources are wrong, including the NYT 
obituary, they actually misspelled Marion Dougherty's name.

Anyway, I thought the show was good. Far better than last year, at the very 
least.
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From: Posteropolis 
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Sent: Mon, February 27, 2012 8:17:09 AM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars


What I LIKED about it this year was the emphasis on the love of movies. From 
the 
art deco movie theater backdrop to the interviews with stars about their first 
movie experiences and what movies mean to them, the show seemed to want to 
appeal to movie buffs, not just ticket buyers, and there is a difference.
 
From what I have read, the producers finally gave up on the 16-24 demographic 
they have been chasing for the past 10 years and decided to focus on the older 
viewers who DO like older movies and movies meant for grownups. And that showed 
in the production. So if it seemed a little tired well, ahem, so is most of the 
audience.
 
And In Memorium always features writers, editors and producers (though maybe 
Steve Jobs was a stretch), not just movie stars. My only criticism is, while 
the 
use of stills was appropriately sombre, the film montage they've used in the 
past worked much better. That said, I think they did a good job of paying 
tribute to those who passed...
 
Dave

- Original Message - 
>From: Bruce Hershenson 
>To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
>Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 7:55 AM
>Subject: [MOPO] The Oscars
>
>It's the morning after, and overall, I thought it was a real snoozefest, Billy 
>Crystal was entertaining, but SO familiar in everything he did and said. And 
>was 
>I the only one who kept wondering if he might have looked and performed better 
>if he hadn't had his very obvious plastic surgery? And isn't it a bad sign 
>when 
>the best segment was the circus art, which has zero to do with movies.
>
>It hit me when they did the "In Memorium" segment, and there were tons of 
>behind 
>the scenes people no one knows, with a few famous faces thrown in. They have 
>successfully turned the Oscars into the Golden Globes, filled with insiders 
>and 
>inside jokes, where they pretty much ignore the viewing public, and give the 
>awards to the movies THEY like. the kind that the critics fawn over, but which 
>not many people actually see.
>
>Of course, this transformation has been going on for many years, but at least 
>they used to pretend to care about the people who make it all possible, those 
>who buy the tickets. And in a day when movies face more and more competition 
>from all sorts of other kinds of entertainment, it may not be just the awards 
>ceremony that sees its number of viewers continuing to fall in coming years.
>
>This was once must-viewing for me. and I have watched it every year, but I 
>think 
>I will skip it next year.
>
>Bruce
>
>-- 
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Re: [MOPO] The Oscars

[James Gresham]

I say why watch the Oscars when Walking Dead was on at the same time on
AMC!  Its a fun series and worth the watch!  If you like Night of the
living Dead or any of the multitude of Zombie movies that followed, I think
you would love Walking Dead!  Jim

On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 9:29 AM, Doug Taylor wrote:

> I found it to be one of the most boring I can remember.  Even Billy
> Crystal seemed bored with the gig.
>
> ** **
>
> Frankly, it has never been a particularly good show, but this was one of
> the least entertaining IMHO.
>
> ** **
>
> Regards
>
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>
> DBT
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>
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> *From:* MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Bruce
> Hershenson
> *Sent:* Monday, February 27, 2012 7:56 AM
> *To:* MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
> *Subject:* [MOPO] The Oscars
>
> ** **
>
> It's the morning after, and overall, I thought it was a real snoozefest,
> Billy Crystal was entertaining, but *SO *familiar in everything he did
> and said. And was I the only one who kept wondering if he might have looked
> and performed better if he hadn't had his very obvious plastic surgery? And
> isn't it a bad sign when the best segment was the circus art, which has
> zero to do with movies.
>
> It hit me when they did the "In Memorium" segment, and there were tons of
> behind the scenes people no one knows, with a few famous faces thrown in.
> They have successfully turned the Oscars into the Golden Globes, filled
> with insiders and inside jokes, where they pretty much ignore the viewing
> public, and give the awards to the movies *THEY *like. the kind that the
> critics fawn over, but which not many people actually see.
>
> Of course, this transformation has been going on for many years, but at
> least they used to *pretend *to care about the people who make it all
> possible, those who buy the tickets. And in a day when movies face more and
> more competition from all sorts of other kinds of entertainment, it may not
> be just the awards ceremony that sees its number of viewers continuing to
> fall in coming years.
>
> This was once must-viewing for me. and I have watched it every year, but I
> think I will skip it next year.
>
> Bruce
>
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Re: [MOPO] The Oscars

[Neil Jaworski]

Steve Jobs was a stretch?

No Steve Jobs = No Pixar

Other than that, and from what I've seen of the ceremony, I agree with Dave and 
I'm pleased that the Oscars is moving away from trying to be The Teen Choice 
Awards.  Eventually, I would like to see a presenting team of Abe Vigoda & 
Betty White.

Neil



 From: Posteropolis 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Sent: Monday, 27 February 2012, 14:17
Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars
 

 
What I LIKED about it this year was the emphasis on 
the love of movies. From the art deco movie theater backdrop to the interviews 
with stars about their first movie experiences and what movies mean to them, 
the 
show seemed to want to appeal to movie buffs, not just ticket buyers, and there 
is a difference.
 
From what I have read, the producers finally gave 
up on the 16-24 demographic they have been chasing for the past 10 years and 
decided to focus on the older viewers who DO like older movies and movies meant 
for grownups. And that showed in the production. So if it seemed a little tired 
well, ahem, so is most of the audience.
 
And In Memorium always features writers, editors 
and producers (though maybe Steve Jobs was a stretch), not just movie stars. My 
only criticism is, while the use of stills was appropriately sombre, the film 
montage they've used in the past worked much better. That said, I think they 
did 
a good job of paying tribute to those who passed...
 
Dave
 
- Original Message - 
>From: Bruce Hershenson 
>To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
>Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 7:55  AM
>Subject: [MOPO] The Oscars
>
>It's the morning after, and overall, I thought it was a real  snoozefest, 
>Billy Crystal was entertaining, but SO familiar in  everything he did and 
>said. And was I the only one who kept wondering if he  might have looked and 
>performed better if he hadn't had his very obvious  plastic surgery? And isn't 
>it a bad sign when the best segment was the circus  art, which has zero to do 
>with movies.
>
>It hit me when they did the "In 
  Memorium" segment, and there were tons of behind the scenes people no one 
  knows, with a few famous faces thrown in. They have successfully turned the 
  Oscars into the Golden Globes, filled with insiders and inside jokes, where 
  they pretty much ignore the viewing public, and give the awards to the movies 
THEY like. the kind that the critics fawn over, but which not many  people 
actually see.
>
>Of course, this transformation has been going on 
  for many years, but at least they used to pretend to care about the  people 
who make it all possible, those who buy the tickets. And in a day when  movies 
face more and more competition from all sorts of other kinds of  entertainment, 
it may not be just the awards ceremony that sees its number of  viewers 
continuing to fall in coming years.
>
>This was once must-viewing 
  for me. and I have watched it every year, but I think I will skip it next 
  year.
>
>Bruce
>
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  65775
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Re: [MOPO] The Oscars

[Joseph Bonelli]

Sorry to disagree, Bruce, but several of us thought that, though it wasn't the 
greatest, that last night's Oscar presentation at LEAST paid attention to the 
professionals, living and passed on, who make up the world of movies...unlike 
the last two years when the production tried to cater to the People's Choice 
and Teeny-bop Awards. We could actually see the entire audience in the 
beautiful theatre last night--  instead of having it decorated like a studio 
for a game show, complete with peanut gallerey screaming, "Pick me!"
Sorry, but SOMEONE has to take the higher road.  I believe that OSCAR needs to 
be that someone.  
There is a huge international audience for the Oscars which negates the 
necessity to cater to the US's Text-Sending Teeny-Set.  Don't worry about 
them.. Michael Bay & the Vampire Crew. will see to it that they are well 
entertained and spend lots and lots of mommy-daddy money at the concession 
stands...and the grownups can snooze with pleasure through an Oscar program 
that  honors "Hugo" rather than "Transformers".
When Oscar becomes the People's Choice, excellence in film will be buried under 
a heap of poot jokes and CGI.  
Sorry if my comments seem old-fashioned, but that's the way this movie fan sees 
it.
 
Joe B in NOLA 
 
PS-- I thought the awards were well-apportioned on the whole.  This year was 
all about the Nomination being the thing--- an excellent year for film.
PPS-- But the choice NOT to bestow special honors on the "Potter" series with 
it's decade-long history of excellence in everything, was unfortunate...the 
night's biggest failing in my estimation.
Joe
  


 From: Bruce Hershenson 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 6:55 AM
Subject: [MOPO] The Oscars
  

It's the morning after, and overall, I thought it was a real snoozefest, Billy 
Crystal was entertaining, but SO familiar in everything he did and said. And 
was I the only one who kept wondering if he might have looked and performed 
better if he hadn't had his very obvious plastic surgery? And isn't it a bad 
sign when the best segment was the circus art, which has zero to do with movies.

It hit me when they did the "In Memorium" segment, and there were tons of 
behind the scenes people no one knows, with a few famous faces thrown in. They 
have successfully turned the Oscars into the Golden Globes, filled with 
insiders and inside jokes, where they pretty much ignore the viewing public, 
and give the awards to the movies THEY like. the kind that the critics fawn 
over, but which not many people actually see.

Of course, this transformation has been going on for many years, but at least 
they used to pretend to care about the people who make it all possible, those 
who buy the tickets. And in a day when movies face more and more competition 
from all sorts of other kinds of entertainment, it may not be just the awards 
ceremony that sees its number of viewers continuing to fall in coming years.

This was once must-viewing for me. and I have watched it every year, but I 
think I will skip it next year.

Bruce

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Re: [MOPO] The Oscars

[Steve]

Does anyone remember the exact year during the 1990s when an Oscar portrait was 
done at the end of the show?  Each of the winners of an acting award from 
previous years who was present was sitting on stage and his/her name was 
mentioned.  Shirley Temple (sitting next to Marissa Tomei) received the 
strongest applaus.  Shelley Winters and Teresa Wright were also there.  
 
It would be nice if that would be a part of the show every few years. 



From: Neil Jaworski 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 8:35 AM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars


Steve Jobs was a stretch?

No Steve Jobs = No Pixar

Other than that, and from what I've seen of the ceremony, I agree with Dave and 
I'm pleased that the Oscars is moving away from trying to be The Teen Choice 
Awards.  Eventually, I would like to see a presenting team of Abe Vigoda & 
Betty White.

Neil



From: Posteropolis 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Sent: Monday, 27 February 2012, 14:17
Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars


What I LIKED about it this year was the emphasis on the love of movies. From 
the art deco movie theater backdrop to the interviews with stars about their 
first movie experiences and what movies mean to them, the show seemed to want 
to appeal to movie buffs, not just ticket buyers, and there is a difference.
 
From what I have read, the producers finally gave up on the 16-24 demographic 
they have been chasing for the past 10 years and decided to focus on the older 
viewers who DO like older movies and movies meant for grownups. And that showed 
in the production. So if it seemed a little tired well, ahem, so is most of the 
audience.
 
And In Memorium always features writers, editors and producers (though maybe 
Steve Jobs was a stretch), not just movie stars. My only criticism is, while 
the use of stills was appropriately sombre, the film montage they've used in 
the past worked much better. That said, I think they did a good job of paying 
tribute to those who passed...
 
Dave

- Original Message - 
>From: Bruce Hershenson 
>To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
>Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 7:55 AM
>Subject: [MOPO] The Oscars
>
>It's the morning after, and overall, I thought it was a real snoozefest, Billy 
>Crystal was entertaining, but SO familiar in everything he did and said. And 
>was I the only one who kept wondering if he might have looked and performed 
>better if he hadn't had his very obvious plastic surgery? And isn't it a bad 
>sign when the best segment was the circus art, which has zero to do with 
>movies.
>
>It hit me when they did the "In Memorium" segment, and there were tons of 
>behind the scenes people no one knows, with a few famous faces thrown in. They 
>have successfully turned the Oscars into the Golden Globes, filled with 
>insiders and inside jokes, where they pretty much ignore the viewing public, 
>and give the awards to the movies THEY like. the kind that the critics fawn 
>over, but which not many people actually see.
>
>Of course, this transformation has been going on for many years, but at least 
>they used to pretend to care about the people who make it all possible, those 
>who buy the tickets. And in a day when movies face more and more competition 
>from all sorts of other kinds of entertainment, it may not be just the awards 
>ceremony that sees its number of viewers continuing to fall in coming years.
>
>This was once must-viewing for me. and I have watched it every year, but I 
>think I will skip it next year.
>
>Bruce
>
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[Joseph Bonelli]

Dave, I agree entirely.  Joe B

 


 From: Posteropolis 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 8:17 AM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars
  

  
What I LIKED about it this year was the emphasis on 
the love of movies. From the art deco movie theater backdrop to the interviews 
with stars about their first movie experiences and what movies mean to them, 
the 
show seemed to want to appeal to movie buffs, not just ticket buyers, and there 
is a difference. 
  
From what I have read, the producers finally gave 
up on the 16-24 demographic they have been chasing for the past 10 years and 
decided to focus on the older viewers who DO like older movies and movies meant 
for grownups. And that showed in the production. So if it seemed a little tired 
well, ahem, so is most of the audience. 
  
And In Memorium always features writers, editors 
and producers (though maybe Steve Jobs was a stretch), not just movie stars. My 
only criticism is, while the use of stills was appropriately sombre, the film 
montage they've used in the past worked much better. That said, I think they 
did 
a good job of paying tribute to those who passed... 
  
Dave 

- Original Message -  
>From: Bruce Hershenson  
>To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU  
>Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 7:55  AM 
>Subject: [MOPO] The Oscars 
>
>It's the morning after, and overall, I thought it was a real  snoozefest, 
>Billy Crystal was entertaining, but SO familiar in  everything he did and 
>said. And was I the only one who kept wondering if he  might have looked and 
>performed better if he hadn't had his very obvious  plastic surgery? And isn't 
>it a bad sign when the best segment was the circus  art, which has zero to do 
>with movies.
>
>It hit me when they did the "In 
  Memorium" segment, and there were tons of behind the scenes people no one 
  knows, with a few famous faces thrown in. They have successfully turned the 
  Oscars into the Golden Globes, filled with insiders and inside jokes, where 
  they pretty much ignore the viewing public, and give the awards to the movies 
THEY like. the kind that the critics fawn over, but which not many  people 
actually see.
>
>Of course, this transformation has been going on 
  for many years, but at least they used to pretend to care about the  people 
who make it all possible, those who buy the tickets. And in a day when  movies 
face more and more competition from all sorts of other kinds of  entertainment, 
it may not be just the awards ceremony that sees its number of  viewers 
continuing to fall in coming years.
>
>This was once must-viewing 
  for me. and I have watched it every year, but I think I will skip it next 
  year.
>
>Bruce
>
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  members of the eMoviePoster.com team
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Re: [MOPO] The Oscars

[Claude Litton]

Jim is right on target
 
I watched the opening with Billy because I was at my sister-in-law's house  
and she wanted to see the opening.  The most interesting thing to me was  
his face and why anyone would go through surgery to look like that.  I was  
totally bored and found nothing funny.  Though I must admit, I liked the  
Jennifer Lopez dress.
 
I left the room and came back to see the circus act which was  spectacular. 
 Too bad it had nothing to do with the oscars.
 
Give me the TCM channel movies anytime.
 
CJL
 
 
In a message dated 2/27/2012 9:33:09 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
jamesalangres...@gmail.com writes:

I say  why watch the Oscars when Walking Dead was on at the same time on 
AMC!  Its a fun series and worth the watch!  If you like Night of the  living 
Dead or any of the multitude of Zombie movies that followed, I think  you 
would love Walking Dead!  Jim

On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 9:29 AM, Doug Taylor <_douglasbtaylor@hotmail.com_ 
(mailto:douglasbtay...@hotmail.com) >  wrote:


 
I found it  to be one of the most boring I can remember.  Even Billy 
Crystal seemed  bored with the gig. 
Frankly,  it has never been a particularly good show, but this was one of 
the least  entertaining IMHO. 
Regards 
DBT 
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To:  _MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU_ (mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU) 
Subject: [MOPO] The  Oscars 
It's the morning after, and overall, I thought it was a  real snoozefest, 
Billy Crystal was entertaining, but SO familiar in  everything he did and 
said. And was I the only one who kept wondering if he  might have looked and 
performed better if he hadn't had his very obvious  plastic surgery? And isn't 
it a bad sign when the best segment was the  circus art, which has zero to 
do with movies.

It hit me when they did  the "In Memorium" segment, and there were tons of 
behind the scenes people  no one knows, with a few famous faces thrown in. 
They have successfully  turned the Oscars into the Golden Globes, filled with 
insiders and inside  jokes, where they pretty much ignore the viewing 
public, and give the awards  to the movies THEY like. the kind that the critics 
fawn over, but  which not many people actually see.

Of course, this transformation  has been going on for many years, but at 
least they used to pretend  to care about the people who make it all possible, 
those who buy the  tickets. And in a day when movies face more and more 
competition from all  sorts of other kinds of entertainment, it may not be just 
the awards  ceremony that sees its number of viewers continuing to fall in 
coming  years.

This was once must-viewing for me. and I have watched it every  year, but I 
think I will skip it next year.

Bruce

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Re: [MOPO] The Oscars

[Kirby McDaniel]

Here we go again.  Another round of Oscar-bashers!  A much improved show.  
1000% better than last year.  Restored
some organization to the proceedings, and I found Billy Crystal entertaining.  
Of course, the Academy voted for who THEY like;
that's what they've always done.  That's what we want them to do, isn't it?  I 
don't want them voting for what the 14 year olds at the mall
usually like.  When they start doing that, you won't have to watch the LIVING 
DEAD WHATEVER because they will be them!  Anyway there is the
People's Choice awards for that kind of thing.  I watched the Independent 
Spirit awards the night before and it was basically the same thing
with different movies and a little less showbiz schtick. 

As far as the awards go, I was generally happy with all of them.  But I was 
particularly pleased with Meryl Streep winning Best Actress for
THE IRON LADY.  I thought she was great in the film.  And contrary to most 
critical reaction, I thought the movie was good too. 

And I was glad that RANGO won; I enjoyed that! 

THE ARTIST?  I haven't seen it yet, but the people I know who have seem to like 
it a lot.  So I'm headed there soon.  I was glad that it
did not win the screenplay award because I think a screenplay should have some 
dialogue.

Disappointments?  I am sorry that Terrence Malick's film did not win anything.  
I did not expect it to win.  It is a remarkable piece of work.  But then it 
joins a long list
of other distinguished films that are not winners.  Yet I am glad that Douglas 
Trumbull was honored.  The special effects in THE TREE OF LIFE
are, if anything, more spectacular than those in 2001.  And yes, I liked the 
dinosaurs in that film.  Whassup wi that?

And the quintessential establishment film this year, MONEYBALL, a really fine 
commercial Hollywood film, was ignored.

Anyway, if you feel like getting snarky about the Oscars, you can read Frank 
Bruni in the New York Times yesterday.  He obviously got up on the WRONG
side of the bed.

One last Oscar-related tidbit.  MGM will re-release BEN HUR in mid March for a 
few high resolution digital presentations in theaters.

Kirby

  
On Feb 27, 2012, at 8:35 AM, Neil Jaworski wrote:

> Steve Jobs was a stretch?
> 
> No Steve Jobs = No Pixar
> 
> Other than that, and from what I've seen of the ceremony, I agree with Dave 
> and I'm pleased that the Oscars is moving away from trying to be The Teen 
> Choice Awards.  Eventually, I would like to see a presenting team of Abe 
> Vigoda & Betty White.
> 
> Neil
> 
> From: Posteropolis 
> To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
> Sent: Monday, 27 February 2012, 14:17
> Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars
> 
> What I LIKED about it this year was the emphasis on the love of movies. From 
> the art deco movie theater backdrop to the interviews with stars about their 
> first movie experiences and what movies mean to them, the show seemed to want 
> to appeal to movie buffs, not just ticket buyers, and there is a difference.
>  
> From what I have read, the producers finally gave up on the 16-24 demographic 
> they have been chasing for the past 10 years and decided to focus on the 
> older viewers who DO like older movies and movies meant for grownups. And 
> that showed in the production. So if it seemed a little tired well, ahem, so 
> is most of the audience.
>  
> And In Memorium always features writers, editors and producers (though maybe 
> Steve Jobs was a stretch), not just movie stars. My only criticism is, while 
> the use of stills was appropriately sombre, the film montage they've used in 
> the past worked much better. That said, I think they did a good job of paying 
> tribute to those who passed...
>  
> Dave
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Bruce Hershenson
> To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 7:55 AM
> Subject: [MOPO] The Oscars
> 
> It's the morning after, and overall, I thought it was a real snoozefest, 
> Billy Crystal was entertaining, but SO familiar in everything he did and 
> said. And was I the only one who kept wondering if he might have looked and 
> performed better if he hadn't had his very obvious plastic surgery? And isn't 
> it a bad sign when the best segment was the circus art, which has zero to do 
> with movies.
> 
> It hit me when they did the "In Memorium" segment, and there were tons of 
> behind the scenes people no one knows, with a few famous faces thrown in. 
> They have successfully turned the Oscars into the Golden Globes, filled with 
> insiders and inside jokes, where they pretty much ignore the viewing public, 
> and give the awards to the movies THEY like. the kind that the critics fawn 
> over, but which not many people actually see.
> 
> Of course

Re: [MOPO] The Oscars

[Posteropolis]

Steve, I think they only do that during specific anniversaries, like the 50th 
or 60th or 75th Oscars. Be interesting to see what they do for the 100th, which 
isn't all that far away...

Dave
  - Original Message - 
  From: Steve 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 10:04 AM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars


  Does anyone remember the exact year during the 1990s when an Oscar portrait 
was done at the end of the show?  Each of the winners of an acting award from 
previous years who was present was sitting on stage and his/her name was 
mentioned.  Shirley Temple (sitting next to Marissa Tomei) received the 
strongest applaus.  Shelley Winters and Teresa Wright were also there.  

  It would be nice if that would be a part of the show every few years. 


  From: Neil Jaworski 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 8:35 AM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars



  Steve Jobs was a stretch?


  No Steve Jobs = No Pixar


  Other than that, and from what I've seen of the ceremony, I agree with Dave 
and I'm pleased that the Oscars is moving away from trying to be The Teen 
Choice Awards.  Eventually, I would like to see a presenting team of Abe Vigoda 
& Betty White.


  Neil


  From: Posteropolis 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Monday, 27 February 2012, 14:17
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars



  What I LIKED about it this year was the emphasis on the love of movies. From 
the art deco movie theater backdrop to the interviews with stars about their 
first movie experiences and what movies mean to them, the show seemed to want 
to appeal to movie buffs, not just ticket buyers, and there is a difference.

  From what I have read, the producers finally gave up on the 16-24 demographic 
they have been chasing for the past 10 years and decided to focus on the older 
viewers who DO like older movies and movies meant for grownups. And that showed 
in the production. So if it seemed a little tired well, ahem, so is most of the 
audience.

  And In Memorium always features writers, editors and producers (though maybe 
Steve Jobs was a stretch), not just movie stars. My only criticism is, while 
the use of stills was appropriately sombre, the film montage they've used in 
the past worked much better. That said, I think they did a good job of paying 
tribute to those who passed...

  Dave

- Original Message - 
From: Bruce Hershenson 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 7:55 AM
Subject: [MOPO] The Oscars


It's the morning after, and overall, I thought it was a real snoozefest, 
Billy Crystal was entertaining, but SO familiar in everything he did and said. 
And was I the only one who kept wondering if he might have looked and performed 
better if he hadn't had his very obvious plastic surgery? And isn't it a bad 
sign when the best segment was the circus art, which has zero to do with movies.

It hit me when they did the "In Memorium" segment, and there were tons of 
behind the scenes people no one knows, with a few famous faces thrown in. They 
have successfully turned the Oscars into the Golden Globes, filled with 
insiders and inside jokes, where they pretty much ignore the viewing public, 
and give the awards to the movies THEY like. the kind that the critics fawn 
over, but which not many people actually see.

Of course, this transformation has been going on for many years, but at 
least they used to pretend to care about the people who make it all possible, 
those who buy the tickets. And in a day when movies face more and more 
competition from all sorts of other kinds of entertainment, it may not be just 
the awards ceremony that sees its number of viewers continuing to fall in 
coming years.

This was once must-viewing for me. and I have watched it every year, but I 
think I will skip it next year.

Bruce

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Re: [MOPO] The Oscars

[Simon Oram]

Im glad I watched The Devil is a Woman instead.
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Jim is right on target
 
I watched the opening with Billy because I was at my sister-in-law's house  
and she wanted to see the opening.  The most interesting thing to me was  
his face and why anyone would go through surgery to look like that.  I was  
totally bored and found nothing funny.  Though I must admit, I liked the  
Jennifer Lopez dress.
 
I left the room and came back to see the circus act which was  spectacular. 
 Too bad it had nothing to do with the oscars.
 
Give me the TCM channel movies anytime.
 
CJL
 
 
In a message dated 2/27/2012 9:33:09 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
jamesalangres...@gmail.com writes:

I say  why watch the Oscars when Walking Dead was on at the same time on 
AMC!  Its a fun series and worth the watch!  If you like Night of the  living 
Dead or any of the multitude of Zombie movies that followed, I think  you 
would love Walking Dead!  Jim

On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 9:29 AM, Doug Taylor <_douglasbtaylor@hotmail.com_ 
(mailto:douglasbtay...@hotmail.com) >  wrote:


 
I found it  to be one of the most boring I can remember.  Even Billy 
Crystal seemed  bored with the gig. 
Frankly,  it has never been a particularly good show, but this was one of 
the least  entertaining IMHO. 
Regards 
DBT 
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From: MoPo List  [mailto:_mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU_ 
(mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU) ] On Behalf Of Bruce  Hershenson
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 7:56 AM
To:  _MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU_ (mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU) 
Subject: [MOPO] The  Oscars 
It's the morning after, and overall, I thought it was a  real snoozefest, 
Billy Crystal was entertaining, but SO familiar in  everything he did and 
said. And was I the only one who kept wondering if he  might have looked and 
performed better if he hadn't had his very obvious  plastic surgery? And isn't 
it a bad sign when the best segment was the  circus art, which has zero to 
do with movies.

It hit me when they did  the "In Memorium" segment, and there were tons of 
behind the scenes people  no one knows, with a few famous faces thrown in. 
They have successfully  turned the Oscars into the Golden Globes, filled with 
insiders and inside  jokes, where they pretty much ignore the viewing 
public, and give the awards  to the movies THEY like. the kind that the critics 
fawn over, but  which not many people actually see.

Of course, this transformation  has been going on for many years, but at 
least they used to pretend  to care about the people who make it all possible, 
those who buy the  tickets. And in a day when movies face more and more 
competition from all  sorts of other kinds of entertainment, it may not be just 
the awards  ceremony that sees its number of viewers continuing to fall in 
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Re: [MOPO] The Oscars

[Franc]

I actually thought it was one of the LEAST boring Oscar telecasts I've seen
in a long time but then again I record the show on my DVR and only began to
watch it at around 9.30 PM EST with a remote control in my hand. By the time
11 o'clock rolled around I was completely caught up, having not listened to
any of the acceptance speeches I wasn't interested in or the commercials.
(You do the math on that one.) I thought Billy Crystal got it right almost
all night. I thought some of the choices on the video packages were strange
especially the In Memorial segment which featured almost all still photos,
odd for an event celebrating motion pictures. I didn't miss having to sit
through the two ghastly Best Songs but the package assembled for Best Movie
of the Year was wrong-headed, intercutting the clips from the best films so
that one never got a taste for any of the nine films, just a stupid idea. I
wasn't too upset with the actual awards last night, although I wish Hugo had
taken either Best Movie or Best Direction. I was frankly expecting an old
guard backlash with the totally ordinary The Descendants and George Clooney
winning top awards and I'm glad that didn't happen. I would have preferred
Viola Davis or Michelle Williams rather than Meryl Streep winning for a
strong performance in an absolutely ghastly film but I'm also glad Woody
Allen didn't win for his latest warmed-over opus.  I guess I'm mellowing.
FRANC  

-Original Message-
From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Joseph
Bonelli
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 9:55 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars


Sorry to disagree, Bruce, but several of us thought that, though it wasn't
the greatest, that last night's Oscar presentation at LEAST paid attention
to the professionals, living and passed on, who make up the world of
movies...unlike the last two years when the production tried to cater to the
People's Choice and Teeny-bop Awards. We could actually see the entire
audience in the beautiful theatre last night--  instead of having it
decorated like a studio for a game show, complete with peanut gallerey
screaming, "Pick me!"
Sorry, but SOMEONE has to take the higher road.  I believe that OSCAR needs
to be that someone.  
There is a huge international audience for the Oscars which negates the
necessity to cater to the US's Text-Sending Teeny-Set.  Don't worry about
them.. Michael Bay & the Vampire Crew. will see to it that they are well
entertained and spend lots and lots of mommy-daddy money at the concession
stands...and the grownups can snooze with pleasure through an Oscar program
that  honors "Hugo" rather than "Transformers".
When Oscar becomes the People's Choice, excellence in film will be buried
under a heap of poot jokes and CGI.  
Sorry if my comments seem old-fashioned, but that's the way this movie fan
sees it.
 
Joe B in NOLA 
 
PS-- I thought the awards were well-apportioned on the whole.  This year was
all about the Nomination being the thing--- an excellent year for film.
PPS-- But the choice NOT to bestow special honors on the "Potter" series
with it's decade-long history of excellence in everything, was
unfortunate...the night's biggest failing in my estimation.
Joe

  

From: Bruce Hershenson 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 6:55 AM
Subject: [MOPO] The Oscars


It's the morning after, and overall, I thought it was a real snoozefest,
Billy Crystal was entertaining, but SO familiar in everything he did and
said. And was I the only one who kept wondering if he might have looked and
performed better if he hadn't had his very obvious plastic surgery? And
isn't it a bad sign when the best segment was the circus art, which has zero
to do with movies.

It hit me when they did the "In Memorium" segment, and there were tons of
behind the scenes people no one knows, with a few famous faces thrown in.
They have successfully turned the Oscars into the Golden Globes, filled with
insiders and inside jokes, where they pretty much ignore the viewing public,
and give the awards to the movies THEY like. the kind that the critics fawn
over, but which not many people actually see.

Of course, this transformation has been going on for many years, but at
least they used to pretend to care about the people who make it all
possible, those who buy the tickets. And in a day when movies face more and
more competition from all sorts of other kinds of entertainment, it may not
be just the awards ceremony that sees its number of viewers continuing to
fall in coming years.

This was once must-viewing for me. and I have watched it every year, but I
think I will skip it next year.

Bruce

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Re: [MOPO] The Oscars

[Posteropolis]

MessageFranc, Woody got Best Original Screenplay, which I thought was weird, 
considering what a tired idea for a movie it was.

Dave
  - Original Message - 
  From: Franc 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 10:59 AM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars


  I actually thought it was one of the LEAST boring Oscar telecasts I've seen 
in a long time but then again I record the show on my DVR and only began to 
watch it at around 9.30 PM EST with a remote control in my hand. By the time 11 
o'clock rolled around I was completely caught up, having not listened to any of 
the acceptance speeches I wasn't interested in or the commercials. (You do the 
math on that one.) I thought Billy Crystal got it right almost all night. I 
thought some of the choices on the video packages were strange especially the 
In Memorial segment which featured almost all still photos, odd for an event 
celebrating motion pictures. I didn't miss having to sit through the two 
ghastly Best Songs but the package assembled for Best Movie of the Year was 
wrong-headed, intercutting the clips from the best films so that one never got 
a taste for any of the nine films, just a stupid idea. I wasn't too upset with 
the actual awards last night, although I wish Hugo had taken either Best Movie 
or Best Direction. I was frankly expecting an old guard backlash with the 
totally ordinary The Descendants and George Clooney winning top awards and I'm 
glad that didn't happen. I would have preferred Viola Davis or Michelle 
Williams rather than Meryl Streep winning for a strong performance in an 
absolutely ghastly film but I'm also glad Woody Allen didn't win for his latest 
warmed-over opus.  I guess I'm mellowing. FRANC  
-Original Message-
From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Joseph 
Bonelli
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 9:55 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars


Sorry to disagree, Bruce, but several of us thought that, though it wasn't 
the greatest, that last night's Oscar presentation at LEAST paid attention to 
the professionals, living and passed on, who make up the world of 
movies...unlike the last two years when the production tried to cater to the 
People's Choice and Teeny-bop Awards. We could actually see the entire audience 
in the beautiful theatre last night--  instead of having it decorated like a 
studio for a game show, complete with peanut gallerey screaming, "Pick me!"
Sorry, but SOMEONE has to take the higher road.  I believe that OSCAR needs 
to be that someone.  
There is a huge international audience for the Oscars which negates the 
necessity to cater to the US's Text-Sending Teeny-Set.  Don't worry about 
them.. Michael Bay & the Vampire Crew. will see to it that they are well 
entertained and spend lots and lots of mommy-daddy money at the concession 
stands...and the grownups can snooze with pleasure through an Oscar program 
that  honors "Hugo" rather than "Transformers".
When Oscar becomes the People's Choice, excellence in film will be buried 
under a heap of poot jokes and CGI.  
Sorry if my comments seem old-fashioned, but that's the way this movie fan 
sees it.

Joe B in NOLA 

PS-- I thought the awards were well-apportioned on the whole.  This year 
was all about the Nomination being the thing--- an excellent year for film.
PPS-- But the choice NOT to bestow special honors on the "Potter" series 
with it's decade-long history of excellence in everything, was 
unfortunate...the night's biggest failing in my estimation.
    Joe

  
    From: Bruce Hershenson 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 6:55 AM
Subject: [MOPO] The Oscars



It's the morning after, and overall, I thought it was a real snoozefest, 
Billy Crystal was entertaining, but SO familiar in everything he did and said. 
And was I the only one who kept wondering if he might have looked and performed 
better if he hadn't had his very obvious plastic surgery? And isn't it a bad 
sign when the best segment was the circus art, which has zero to do with movies.

It hit me when they did the "In Memorium" segment, and there were tons of 
behind the scenes people no one knows, with a few famous faces thrown in. They 
have successfully turned the Oscars into the Golden Globes, filled with 
insiders and inside jokes, where they pretty much ignore the viewing public, 
and give the awards to the movies THEY like. the kind that the critics fawn 
over, but which not many people actually see.

Of course, this transformation has been going on for many years, but at 
least they used to pretend to care about the people who make it all possible, 
those who buy the tickets. And in a day

Re: [MOPO] The Oscars

[Franc]

Yes, I thought that was wierd too but at least he didn't get Best Director
or Best film. FRANC

-Original Message-
From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of
Posteropolis
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 11:07 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars


Franc, Woody got Best Original Screenplay, which I thought was weird,
considering what a tired idea for a movie it was.
 
Dave

- Original Message - 
From: Franc <mailto:fdav...@verizon.net>  
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 10:59 AM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars

I actually thought it was one of the LEAST boring Oscar telecasts I've seen
in a long time but then again I record the show on my DVR and only began to
watch it at around 9.30 PM EST with a remote control in my hand. By the time
11 o'clock rolled around I was completely caught up, having not listened to
any of the acceptance speeches I wasn't interested in or the commercials.
(You do the math on that one.) I thought Billy Crystal got it right almost
all night. I thought some of the choices on the video packages were strange
especially the In Memorial segment which featured almost all still photos,
odd for an event celebrating motion pictures. I didn't miss having to sit
through the two ghastly Best Songs but the package assembled for Best Movie
of the Year was wrong-headed, intercutting the clips from the best films so
that one never got a taste for any of the nine films, just a stupid idea. I
wasn't too upset with the actual awards last night, although I wish Hugo had
taken either Best Movie or Best Direction. I was frankly expecting an old
guard backlash with the totally ordinary The Descendants and George Clooney
winning top awards and I'm glad that didn't happen. I would have preferred
Viola Davis or Michelle Williams rather than Meryl Streep winning for a
strong performance in an absolutely ghastly film but I'm also glad Woody
Allen didn't win for his latest warmed-over opus.  I guess I'm mellowing.
FRANC  

-Original Message-
From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Joseph
Bonelli
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 9:55 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars


Sorry to disagree, Bruce, but several of us thought that, though it wasn't
the greatest, that last night's Oscar presentation at LEAST paid attention
to the professionals, living and passed on, who make up the world of
movies...unlike the last two years when the production tried to cater to the
People's Choice and Teeny-bop Awards. We could actually see the entire
audience in the beautiful theatre last night--  instead of having it
decorated like a studio for a game show, complete with peanut gallerey
screaming, "Pick me!"
Sorry, but SOMEONE has to take the higher road.  I believe that OSCAR needs
to be that someone.  
There is a huge international audience for the Oscars which negates the
necessity to cater to the US's Text-Sending Teeny-Set.  Don't worry about
them.. Michael Bay & the Vampire Crew. will see to it that they are well
entertained and spend lots and lots of mommy-daddy money at the concession
stands...and the grownups can snooze with pleasure through an Oscar program
that  honors "Hugo" rather than "Transformers".
When Oscar becomes the People's Choice, excellence in film will be buried
under a heap of poot jokes and CGI.  
Sorry if my comments seem old-fashioned, but that's the way this movie fan
sees it.
 
Joe B in NOLA 
 
PS-- I thought the awards were well-apportioned on the whole.  This year was
all about the Nomination being the thing--- an excellent year for film.
PPS-- But the choice NOT to bestow special honors on the "Potter" series
with it's decade-long history of excellence in everything, was
unfortunate...the night's biggest failing in my estimation.
Joe

  

From: Bruce Hershenson 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 6:55 AM
Subject: [MOPO] The Oscars


It's the morning after, and overall, I thought it was a real snoozefest,
Billy Crystal was entertaining, but SO familiar in everything he did and
said. And was I the only one who kept wondering if he might have looked and
performed better if he hadn't had his very obvious plastic surgery? And
isn't it a bad sign when the best segment was the circus art, which has zero
to do with movies.

It hit me when they did the "In Memorium" segment, and there were tons of
behind the scenes people no one knows, with a few famous faces thrown in.
They have successfully turned the Oscars into the Golden Globes, filled with
insiders and inside jokes, where they pretty much ignore the viewing public,
and give the awards to the movies THEY like. the kind that the critics fawn
over, but which not many people actuall

Re: [MOPO] The Oscars

[Kirby McDaniel]

Agreed.  This was mid-level Woody Allen at best.  I couldn't understand what 
the fuss was about.  And the "American" family
in that film - a bunch of right-wing bores - what a tired idea.  Would have 
been funnier to make them American lefties more liberal than thou!
Still, it wasn't entirely boring.  Great shots of Paris.  Who needs a star when 
you have Paris.  We'll always have Paris, won't we?
K.

On Feb 27, 2012, at 10:07 AM, Posteropolis wrote:

> Franc, Woody got Best Original Screenplay, which I thought was weird, 
> considering what a tired idea for a movie it was.
>  
> Dave
> - Original Message -
> From: Franc
> To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 10:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars
> 
> I actually thought it was one of the LEAST boring Oscar telecasts I've seen 
> in a long time but then again I record the show on my DVR and only began to 
> watch it at around 9.30 PM EST with a remote control in my hand. By the time 
> 11 o'clock rolled around I was completely caught up, having not listened to 
> any of the acceptance speeches I wasn't interested in or the commercials. 
> (You do the math on that one.) I thought Billy Crystal got it right almost 
> all night. I thought some of the choices on the video packages were strange 
> especially the In Memorial segment which featured almost all still photos, 
> odd for an event celebrating motion pictures. I didn't miss having to sit 
> through the two ghastly Best Songs but the package assembled for Best Movie 
> of the Year was wrong-headed, intercutting the clips from the best films so 
> that one never got a taste for any of the nine films, just a stupid idea. I 
> wasn't too upset with the actual awards last night, although I wish Hugo had 
> taken either Best Movie or Best Direction. I was frankly expecting an old 
> guard backlash with the totally ordinary The Descendants and George Clooney 
> winning top awards and I'm glad that didn't happen. I would have preferred 
> Viola Davis or Michelle Williams rather than Meryl Streep winning for a 
> strong performance in an absolutely ghastly film but I'm also glad Woody 
> Allen didn't win for his latest warmed-over opus.  I guess I'm mellowing. 
> FRANC  
> -Original Message-
> From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Joseph 
> Bonelli
> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 9:55 AM
> To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
> Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars
> 
> Sorry to disagree, Bruce, but several of us thought that, though it wasn't 
> the greatest, that last night's Oscar presentation at LEAST paid attention to 
> the professionals, living and passed on, who make up the world of 
> movies...unlike the last two years when the production tried to cater to the 
> People's Choice and Teeny-bop Awards. We could actually see the entire 
> audience in the beautiful theatre last night--  instead of having it 
> decorated like a studio for a game show, complete with peanut gallerey 
> screaming, "Pick me!"
> Sorry, but SOMEONE has to take the higher road.  I believe that OSCAR needs 
> to be that someone. 
> There is a huge international audience for the Oscars which negates the 
> necessity to cater to the US's Text-Sending Teeny-Set.  Don't worry about 
> them.. Michael Bay & the Vampire Crew. will see to it that they are well 
> entertained and spend lots and lots of mommy-daddy money at the concession 
> stands...and the grownups can snooze with pleasure through an Oscar program 
> that  honors "Hugo" rather than "Transformers".
> When Oscar becomes the People's Choice, excellence in film will be buried 
> under a heap of poot jokes and CGI. 
> Sorry if my comments seem old-fashioned, but that's the way this movie fan 
> sees it.
>  
> Joe B in NOLA
>  
> PS-- I thought the awards were well-apportioned on the whole.  This year was 
> all about the Nomination being the thing--- an excellent year for film.
> PPS-- But the choice NOT to bestow special honors on the "Potter" series with 
> it's decade-long history of excellence in everything, was unfortunate...the 
> night's biggest failing in my estimation.
> Joe
>  
> From: Bruce Hershenson 
> To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 6:55 AM
> Subject: [MOPO] The Oscars
> 
> It's the morning after, and overall, I thought it was a real snoozefest, 
> Billy Crystal was entertaining, but SO familiar in everything he did and 
> said. And was I the only one who kept wondering if he might have looked and 
> performed better if he hadn't had his very obvious plas

Re: [MOPO] The Oscars

[Doug Taylor]

I had just the opposite feeling.  I thought it deserved screenplay, but
nothing else.

 

I seem to be the contradictory voice on all subjects today.

 

The good news is that my opinion is worth what you've all paid for it!

 

Regards,

 

DBT

 

From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of
Posteropolis
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 11:07 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars

 

Franc, Woody got Best Original Screenplay, which I thought was weird,
considering what a tired idea for a movie it was.

 

Dave

- Original Message - 

From: Franc <mailto:fdav...@verizon.net>  

To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 

Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 10:59 AM

Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars

 

I actually thought it was one of the LEAST boring Oscar telecasts I've seen
in a long time but then again I record the show on my DVR and only began to
watch it at around 9.30 PM EST with a remote control in my hand. By the time
11 o'clock rolled around I was completely caught up, having not listened to
any of the acceptance speeches I wasn't interested in or the commercials.
(You do the math on that one.) I thought Billy Crystal got it right almost
all night. I thought some of the choices on the video packages were strange
especially the In Memorial segment which featured almost all still photos,
odd for an event celebrating motion pictures. I didn't miss having to sit
through the two ghastly Best Songs but the package assembled for Best Movie
of the Year was wrong-headed, intercutting the clips from the best films so
that one never got a taste for any of the nine films, just a stupid idea. I
wasn't too upset with the actual awards last night, although I wish Hugo had
taken either Best Movie or Best Direction. I was frankly expecting an old
guard backlash with the totally ordinary The Descendants and George Clooney
winning top awards and I'm glad that didn't happen. I would have preferred
Viola Davis or Michelle Williams rather than Meryl Streep winning for a
strong performance in an absolutely ghastly film but I'm also glad Woody
Allen didn't win for his latest warmed-over opus.  I guess I'm mellowing.
FRANC  

-Original Message-
From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Joseph
Bonelli
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 9:55 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars

Sorry to disagree, Bruce, but several of us thought that, though it wasn't
the greatest, that last night's Oscar presentation at LEAST paid attention
to the professionals, living and passed on, who make up the world of
movies...unlike the last two years when the production tried to cater to the
People's Choice and Teeny-bop Awards. We could actually see the entire
audience in the beautiful theatre last night--  instead of having it
decorated like a studio for a game show, complete with peanut gallerey
screaming, "Pick me!"

Sorry, but SOMEONE has to take the higher road.  I believe that OSCAR needs
to be that someone.  

There is a huge international audience for the Oscars which negates the
necessity to cater to the US's Text-Sending Teeny-Set.  Don't worry about
them.. Michael Bay & the Vampire Crew. will see to it that they are well
entertained and spend lots and lots of mommy-daddy money at the concession
stands...and the grownups can snooze with pleasure through an Oscar program
that  honors "Hugo" rather than "Transformers".

When Oscar becomes the People's Choice, excellence in film will be buried
under a heap of poot jokes and CGI.  

Sorry if my comments seem old-fashioned, but that's the way this movie fan
sees it.

 

Joe B in NOLA 

 

PS-- I thought the awards were well-apportioned on the whole.  This year was
all about the Nomination being the thing--- an excellent year for film.

PPS-- But the choice NOT to bestow special honors on the "Potter" series
with it's decade-long history of excellence in everything, was
unfortunate...the night's biggest failing in my estimation.

Joe

  

From: Bruce Hershenson 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 6:55 AM
Subject: [MOPO] The Oscars

 

It's the morning after, and overall, I thought it was a real snoozefest,
Billy Crystal was entertaining, but SO familiar in everything he did and
said. And was I the only one who kept wondering if he might have looked and
performed better if he hadn't had his very obvious plastic surgery? And
isn't it a bad sign when the best segment was the circus art, which has zero
to do with movies.

It hit me when they did the "In Memorium" segment, and there were tons of
behind the scenes people no one knows, with a few famous faces thrown in.
They have successfully turned the Oscars into the Golden Globes, filled with
insiders and inside jokes, where they pr

Re: [MOPO] The Oscars

[Phillip W. Ayling]

"Great shots of Paris.  Who needs a star when you have Paris.  We'll always 
have Paris, won't we?"

Woody Allen has almost made a point of snubbing the Academy Awards. I find it 
interesting that the one time he did show up, which I think was in 2002, was to 
talk about New York City and how it was coming back and what a great place it 
was to do films. At that point, I believe that Melinda & Melinda and Anything 
Else were already both in pre-production. I don't believe he has made a movie 
in New York since then.

Actors seem to fall all over themselves at the mere possibility of working with 
Woody Allen, yet it seems to me that his original ideas burnt out long ago. 
Maybe they just seem fresh to his next generation casts like Will Ferrel, 
Scarlet Johannson or Owen Wilson. 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Kirby McDaniel 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 8:17 AM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars


  Agreed.  This was mid-level Woody Allen at best.  I couldn't understand what 
the fuss was about.  And the "American" family
  in that film - a bunch of right-wing bores - what a tired idea.  Would have 
been funnier to make them American lefties more liberal than thou!
  Still, it wasn't entirely boring.  Great shots of Paris.  Who needs a star 
when you have Paris.  We'll always have Paris, won't we?
  K.


  On Feb 27, 2012, at 10:07 AM, Posteropolis wrote:


Franc, Woody got Best Original Screenplay, which I thought was weird, 
considering what a tired idea for a movie it was.

Dave
  - Original Message -
  From: Franc
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
  Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 10:59 AM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars


  I actually thought it was one of the LEAST boring Oscar telecasts I've 
seen in a long time but then again I record the show on my DVR and only began 
to watch it at around 9.30 PM EST with a remote control in my hand. By the time 
11 o'clock rolled around I was completely caught up, having not listened to any 
of the acceptance speeches I wasn't interested in or the commercials. (You do 
the math on that one.) I thought Billy Crystal got it right almost all night. I 
thought some of the choices on the video packages were strange especially the 
In Memorial segment which featured almost all still photos, odd for an event 
celebrating motion pictures. I didn't miss having to sit through the two 
ghastly Best Songs but the package assembled for Best Movie of the Year was 
wrong-headed, intercutting the clips from the best films so that one never got 
a taste for any of the nine films, just a stupid idea. I wasn't too upset with 
the actual awards last night, although I wish Hugo had taken either Best Movie 
or Best Direction. I was frankly expecting an old guard backlash with the 
totally ordinary The Descendants and George Clooney winning top awards and I'm 
glad that didn't happen. I would have preferred Viola Davis or Michelle 
Williams rather than Meryl Streep winning for a strong performance in an 
absolutely ghastly film but I'm also glad Woody Allen didn't win for his latest 
warmed-over opus.  I guess I'm mellowing. FRANC  
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From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of 
Joseph Bonelli
    Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 9:55 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars


Sorry to disagree, Bruce, but several of us thought that, though it 
wasn't the greatest, that last night's Oscar presentation at LEAST paid 
attention to the professionals, living and passed on, who make up the world of 
movies...unlike the last two years when the production tried to cater to the 
People's Choice and Teeny-bop Awards. We could actually see the entire audience 
in the beautiful theatre last night--  instead of having it decorated like a 
studio for a game show, complete with peanut gallerey screaming, "Pick me!"
Sorry, but SOMEONE has to take the higher road.  I believe that OSCAR 
needs to be that someone. 
There is a huge international audience for the Oscars which negates the 
necessity to cater to the US's Text-Sending Teeny-Set.  Don't worry about 
them.. Michael Bay & the Vampire Crew. will see to it that they are well 
entertained and spend lots and lots of mommy-daddy money at the concession 
stands...and the grownups can snooze with pleasure through an Oscar program 
that  honors "Hugo" rather than "Transformers".
When Oscar becomes the People's Choice, excellence in film will be 
buried under a heap of poot jokes and CGI. 
Sorry if my comments seem old-fashioned, but that's the way this movie 
fan sees it.

Joe B in NOLA

PS-- I thought the awards were well-

Re: [MOPO] The Oscars

[Captain Bijou]

Count me in the minority (?) who enjoyed the last night's Oscar ceremony. 

Sorry, Kerry, MIDNIGHT IN PARIS, was my favorite film of the year. 



I have been watching since the very first Oscar telecast in 1953. In those 59 
years, some were better; some were worse. 

Technology has jaded us all a bit. When I watched the first Oscar telecast, we 
could only see the films and their stars in a movie theatre for a limited time. 
Pictures did play for weeks on end, unless they were "held over by public 
demand". They played two or three days, then were off to another theatre across 
town. After first and second run play dates, they would go to the drive-ins 
then back to the film exchanges, seldom to be seen until re-issued five to 
seven years later. 

Occasionally, a favorite celebrity would pop up on television as a guest in a 
television series or early news/talk show like TODAY. Perhaps, you would even 
hear them on radio gabbing with Louella Parsons or Hedda Hopper. A personal 
appearance by a Hollywood celebrity was a fairly rare occurrence outside a 
major city, so we would have to be content reading movie magazines and the 
newspapers.  

Today, thousands of movies are available at our finger tips. We can build our 
own DVD libraries of of favorite films over and over again, or watch them 
uninterrupted in our homes via rental, cable or via streaming. Celebrities are 
easier to contact -- via Twitter, Facebook or other networking sites --  and 
are almost constantly in our view via network television, cable or the internet 
24 hours a day.   

It's become all too familiar, much like collecting movie memorabilia. Harkening 
back to 1953 or even 1963, dedicated fan though I was, I had no idea -- other 
than asking my local theatre's manager -- how to obtain a one-sheet poster, a 
still or a lobby card. Now, on any given day, there are nearly a million 
different items listed for auction or sale on E-bay alone. 

 

Personally, I enjoy being able to view and own thousands of films on DVD to 
enjoy again and again. I also delight in being able to see and acquire stills 
and posters I never thought I would own. But the very technology that provides 
these wonderful blessings may have tarnished Oscar and the ceremony a bit 
through the years. 

Yes, it can be done better and, yes, the Academy is made up of only a select 
number of mostly male, mostly over 50, Hollywood insiders. These complaints are 
not new and have been voiced every one of the seven decades I have watched the 
Academy Awards telecast. 

The Oscars are, and always have been, the film industry congratulating itself. 
In the future, like in the past, some telecasts will be better; some will be 
worse. 

As Shakespeare wrote, "The fault, dear Brutus, lies not in our stars, but in 
ourselves"   

 

  - Original Message - 
  From: Kirby McDaniel 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 10:17 AM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars


  Agreed.  This was mid-level Woody Allen at best.  I couldn't understand what 
the fuss was about.  And the "American" family
  in that film - a bunch of right-wing bores - what a tired idea.  Would have 
been funnier to make them American lefties more liberal than thou!
  Still, it wasn't entirely boring.  Great shots of Paris.  Who needs a star 
when you have Paris.  We'll always have Paris, won't we?
  K.


  On Feb 27, 2012, at 10:07 AM, Posteropolis wrote:


Franc, Woody got Best Original Screenplay, which I thought was weird, 
considering what a tired idea for a movie it was.

Dave
  - Original Message -
  From: Franc
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
  Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 10:59 AM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars


  I actually thought it was one of the LEAST boring Oscar telecasts I've 
seen in a long time but then again I record the show on my DVR and only began 
to watch it at around 9.30 PM EST with a remote control in my hand. By the time 
11 o'clock rolled around I was completely caught up, having not listened to any 
of the acceptance speeches I wasn't interested in or the commercials. (You do 
the math on that one.) I thought Billy Crystal got it right almost all night. I 
thought some of the choices on the video packages were strange especially the 
In Memorial segment which featured almost all still photos, odd for an event 
celebrating motion pictures. I didn't miss having to sit through the two 
ghastly Best Songs but the package assembled for Best Movie of the Year was 
wrong-headed, intercutting the clips from the best films so that one never got 
a taste for any of the nine films, just a stupid idea. I wasn't too upset with 
the actual awards last night, although I wish Hugo had taken either Best Movie 
or Best Direction. I was frankly expecting an old guard backlash with the 
totally ordinary The Descen

Re: [MOPO] The Oscars

[peter contarino]

Best line of the night: Billy Crystal - "Nothing takes the sting out of the
economic woes of the world like watching millionaires hand each other golden
statues".

 

-Peter

 

From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Bruce
Hershenson
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 7:56 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: [MOPO] The Oscars

 

It's the morning after, and overall, I thought it was a real snoozefest,
Billy Crystal was entertaining, but SO familiar in everything he did and
said. And was I the only one who kept wondering if he might have looked and
performed better if he hadn't had his very obvious plastic surgery? And
isn't it a bad sign when the best segment was the circus art, which has zero
to do with movies.

It hit me when they did the "In Memorium" segment, and there were tons of
behind the scenes people no one knows, with a few famous faces thrown in.
They have successfully turned the Oscars into the Golden Globes, filled with
insiders and inside jokes, where they pretty much ignore the viewing public,
and give the awards to the movies THEY like. the kind that the critics fawn
over, but which not many people actually see.

Of course, this transformation has been going on for many years, but at
least they used to pretend to care about the people who make it all
possible, those who buy the tickets. And in a day when movies face more and
more competition from all sorts of other kinds of entertainment, it may not
be just the awards ceremony that sees its number of viewers continuing to
fall in coming years.

This was once must-viewing for me. and I have watched it every year, but I
think I will skip it next year.

Bruce

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Re: [MOPO] The Oscars

[Evan Zweifel]

I'm with you, Dave.  

That whole going back in time to visit famous people idea was obviously ripped 
off from "Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure".  A film that I have to say was 
unjustly IGNORED by The Academy!

- Original Message -
From: Posteropolis 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Sent: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 16:07:12 - (UTC)
Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars

MessageFranc, Woody got Best Original Screenplay, which I thought was weird, 
considering what a tired idea for a movie it was.

Dave
  - Original Message - 
  From: Franc 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 10:59 AM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars


  I actually thought it was one of the LEAST boring Oscar telecasts I've seen 
in a long time but then again I record the show on my DVR and only began to 
watch it at around 9.30 PM EST with a remote control in my hand. By the time 11 
o'clock rolled around I was completely caught up, having not listened to any of 
the acceptance speeches I wasn't interested in or the commercials. (You do the 
math on that one.) I thought Billy Crystal got it right almost all night. I 
thought some of the choices on the video packages were strange especially the 
In Memorial segment which featured almost all still photos, odd for an event 
celebrating motion pictures. I didn't miss having to sit through the two 
ghastly Best Songs but the package assembled for Best Movie of the Year was 
wrong-headed, intercutting the clips from the best films so that one never got 
a taste for any of the nine films, just a stupid idea. I wasn't too upset with 
the actual awards last night, although I wish Hugo had tak!
 en either Best Movie or Best Direction. I was frankly expecting an old guard 
backlash with the totally ordinary The Descendants and George Clooney winning 
top awards and I'm glad that didn't happen. I would have preferred Viola Davis 
or Michelle Williams rather than Meryl Streep winning for a strong performance 
in an absolutely ghastly film but I'm also glad Woody Allen didn't win for his 
latest warmed-over opus.  I guess I'm mellowing. FRANC  
-Original Message-
From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Joseph 
Bonelli
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 9:55 AM
    To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars


Sorry to disagree, Bruce, but several of us thought that, though it wasn't 
the greatest, that last night's Oscar presentation at LEAST paid attention to 
the professionals, living and passed on, who make up the world of 
movies...unlike the last two years when the production tried to cater to the 
People's Choice and Teeny-bop Awards. We could actually see the entire audience 
in the beautiful theatre last night--  instead of having it decorated like a 
studio for a game show, complete with peanut gallerey screaming, "Pick me!"
Sorry, but SOMEONE has to take the higher road.  I believe that OSCAR needs 
to be that someone.  
There is a huge international audience for the Oscars which negates the 
necessity to cater to the US's Text-Sending Teeny-Set.  Don't worry about 
them.. Michael Bay & the Vampire Crew. will see to it that they are well 
entertained and spend lots and lots of mommy-daddy money at the concession 
stands...and the grownups can snooze with pleasure through an Oscar program 
that  honors "Hugo" rather than "Transformers".
When Oscar becomes the People's Choice, excellence in film will be buried 
under a heap of poot jokes and CGI.  
Sorry if my comments seem old-fashioned, but that's the way this movie fan 
sees it.

Joe B in NOLA 

PS-- I thought the awards were well-apportioned on the whole.  This year 
was all about the Nomination being the thing--- an excellent year for film.
PPS-- But the choice NOT to bestow special honors on the "Potter" series 
with it's decade-long history of excellence in everything, was 
unfortunate...the night's biggest failing in my estimation.
Joe

  
From: Bruce Hershenson 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 6:55 AM
Subject: [MOPO] The Oscars



It's the morning after, and overall, I thought it was a real snoozefest, 
Billy Crystal was entertaining, but SO familiar in everything he did and said. 
And was I the only one who kept wondering if he might have looked and performed 
better if he hadn't had his very obvious plastic surgery? And isn't it a bad 
sign when the best segment was the circus art, which has zero to do with movies.

It hit me when they did the "In Memorium" segment, and there were tons of 
behind the scenes people no one knows, with a few famous faces thrown in. They 
have successfully turned the Oscars into the Golden Globes, filled with 
in

Re: [MOPO] The Oscars

[Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art]

I haven't watched an Oscars show in years

watching re-runs of I Love Lucy is way more entertaining

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Re: [MOPO] The Oscars

[Alan Heimann]

just a comment on cirque de soleilI thought they did a reasonably goos
job at matching the acrobatics to the movies portrayed in the
background..now wouldn't it have been nice to show the greatest show on
earth or trapeze in the baqckgorund? Speaking of which kirby i might be
interested in your FOH cards for trapeze..will contact you ..Alan

On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 1:57 PM, peter contarino wrote:

>  Best line of the night: Billy Crystal - “Nothing takes the sting out of
> the economic woes of the world like watching millionaires hand each other
> golden statues”.
>
> ** **
>
> *-Peter*
>
>  
>
> *From:* MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Bruce
> Hershenson
> *Sent:* Monday, February 27, 2012 7:56 AM
> *To:* MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
> *Subject:* [MOPO] The Oscars
>
> ** **
>
> It's the morning after, and overall, I thought it was a real snoozefest,
> Billy Crystal was entertaining, but *SO *familiar in everything he did
> and said. And was I the only one who kept wondering if he might have looked
> and performed better if he hadn't had his very obvious plastic surgery? And
> isn't it a bad sign when the best segment was the circus art, which has
> zero to do with movies.
>
>
> It hit me when they did the "In Memorium" segment, and there were tons of
> behind the scenes people no one knows, with a few famous faces thrown in.
> They have successfully turned the Oscars into the Golden Globes, filled
> with insiders and inside jokes, where they pretty much ignore the viewing
> public, and give the awards to the movies *THEY *like. the kind that the
> critics fawn over, but which not many people actually see.
>
> Of course, this transformation has been going on for many years, but at
> least they used to *pretend *to care about the people who make it all
> possible, those who buy the tickets. And in a day when movies face more and
> more competition from all sorts of other kinds of entertainment, it may not
> be just the awards ceremony that sees its number of viewers continuing to
> fall in coming years.
>
> This was once must-viewing for me. and I have watched it every year, but I
> think I will skip it next year.
>
> Bruce
>
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Re: [MOPO] The Oscars

[Colin Hunter]

Given his substantial contribution to the finished product, shouldn't  
Lodovic Bource have shared his Oscar with Bernard Herrmann for the  
score, or at the very least acknowledged him in his thank you speech?  
Personally I much preferred Howard Shore's more orchestral score for  
Hugo (and it was all his own work to boot).


Colin



From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of  
Bruce Hershenson

Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 7:56 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: [MOPO] The Oscars

It's the morning after, and overall, I thought it was a real  
snoozefest, Billy Crystal was entertaining, but SO familiar in  
everything he did and said. And was I the only one who kept  
wondering if he might have looked and performed better if he hadn't  
had his very obvious plastic surgery? And isn't it a bad sign when  
the best segment was the circus art, which has zero to do with movies.


It hit me when they did the "In Memorium" segment, and there were  
tons of behind the scenes people no one knows, with a few famous  
faces thrown in. They have successfully turned the Oscars into the  
Golden Globes, filled with insiders and inside jokes, where they  
pretty much ignore the viewing public, and give the awards to the  
movies THEY like. the kind that the critics fawn over, but which not  
many people actually see.


Of course, this transformation has been going on for many years, but  
at least they used to pretend to care about the people who make it  
all possible, those who buy the tickets. And in a day when movies  
face more and more competition from all sorts of other kinds of  
entertainment, it may not be just the awards ceremony that sees its  
number of viewers continuing to fall in coming years.


This was once must-viewing for me. and I have watched it every year,  
but I think I will skip it next year.


Bruce

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[Richard Del Belso]

I totally agree with you, Colin.

Richard Del Belso
 Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 14:20:58 -0500
From: chun...@umaryland.edu
Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU

Given his substantial contribution to the finished product, shouldn't Lodovic 
Bource have shared his Oscar with Bernard Herrmann for the score, or at the 
very least acknowledged him in his thank you speech? Personally I much 
preferred Howard Shore's more orchestral score for Hugo (and it was all his own 
work to boot).
Colin



From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Bruce 
Hershenson
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 7:56 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: [MOPO] The Oscars It's the morning after, and overall, I thought it 
was a real snoozefest, Billy Crystal was entertaining, but SO familiar in 
everything he did and said. And was I the only one who kept wondering if he 
might have looked and performed better if he hadn't had his very obvious 
plastic surgery? And isn't it a bad sign when the best segment was the circus 
art, which has zero to do with movies.

It hit me when they did the "In Memorium" segment, and there were tons of 
behind the scenes people no one knows, with a few famous faces thrown in. They 
have successfully turned the Oscars into the Golden Globes, filled with 
insiders and inside jokes, where they pretty much ignore the viewing public, 
and give the awards to the movies THEY like. the kind that the critics fawn 
over, but which not many people actually see.

Of course, this transformation has been going on for many years, but at least 
they used to pretend to care about the people who make it all possible, those 
who buy the tickets. And in a day when movies face more and more competition 
from all sorts of other kinds of entertainment, it may not be just the awards 
ceremony that sees its number of viewers continuing to fall in coming years.

This was once must-viewing for me. and I have watched it every year, but I 
think I will skip it next year.

Bruce
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Re: [MOPO] The Oscars

[Simon Oram]

I had been wondering how this score got the award especially as a few years ago 
Johnny Greenwood's score for There Will be Blood was declared ineligable for an 
Oscar nomination for exactly this type of technicality. By the way Greenwood's 
score was the outstanding piece and a real shame it wasn't even in the running. 
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Given his substantial contribution to the finished product, shouldn't  
Lodovic Bource have shared his Oscar with Bernard Herrmann for the  
score, or at the very least acknowledged him in his thank you speech?  
Personally I much preferred Howard Shore's more orchestral score for  
Hugo (and it was all his own work to boot).

Colin



> From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of  
> Bruce Hershenson
> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 7:56 AM
> To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
> Subject: [MOPO] The Oscars
>
> It's the morning after, and overall, I thought it was a real  
> snoozefest, Billy Crystal was entertaining, but SO familiar in  
> everything he did and said. And was I the only one who kept  
> wondering if he might have looked and performed better if he hadn't  
> had his very obvious plastic surgery? And isn't it a bad sign when  
> the best segment was the circus art, which has zero to do with movies.
>
> It hit me when they did the "In Memorium" segment, and there were  
> tons of behind the scenes people no one knows, with a few famous  
> faces thrown in. They have successfully turned the Oscars into the  
> Golden Globes, filled with insiders and inside jokes, where they  
> pretty much ignore the viewing public, and give the awards to the  
> movies THEY like. the kind that the critics fawn over, but which not  
> many people actually see.
>
> Of course, this transformation has been going on for many years, but  
> at least they used to pretend to care about the people who make it  
> all possible, those who buy the tickets. And in a day when movies  
> face more and more competition from all sorts of other kinds of  
> entertainment, it may not be just the awards ceremony that sees its  
> number of viewers continuing to fall in coming years.
>
> This was once must-viewing for me. and I have watched it every year,  
> but I think I will skip it next year.
>
> Bruce
>
> -- 
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Re: [MOPO] The Oscars

[Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art]

if 3-6 Mafia can win an award for "It's Hard to 
be a Pimp", anything is possible




At 11:49 AM 2/27/2012, Simon Oram wrote:
I had been wondering how this score got the 
award especially as a few years ago Johnny 
Greenwood's score for There Will be Blood was 
declared ineligable for an Oscar nomination for 
exactly this type of technicality. By the way 
Greenwood's score was the outstanding piece and 
a real shame it wasn't even in the running.

Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device
From: Colin Hunter 
Sender: MoPo List 
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 14:20:58 -0500
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Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars
Given his substantial contribution to the 
finished product, shouldn't Lodovic Bource have 
shared his Oscar with Bernard Herrmann for the 
score, or at the very least acknowledged him in 
his thank you speech? Personally I much 
preferred Howard Shore's more orchestral score 
for Hugo (and it was all his own work to boot).


Colin



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Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 7:56 AM
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Subject: [MOPO] The Oscars

It's the morning after, and overall, I thought 
it was a real snoozefest, Billy Crystal was 
entertaining, but SO familiar in everything he 
did and said. And was I the only one who kept 
wondering if he might have looked and performed 
better if he hadn't had his very obvious 
plastic surgery? And isn't it a bad sign when 
the best segment was the circus art, which has zero to do with movies.


It hit me when they did the "In Memorium" 
segment, and there were tons of behind the 
scenes people no one knows, with a few famous 
faces thrown in. They have successfully turned 
the Oscars into the Golden Globes, filled with 
insiders and inside jokes, where they pretty 
much ignore the viewing public, and give the 
awards to the movies THEY like. the kind that 
the critics fawn over, but which not many people actually see.


Of course, this transformation has been going 
on for many years, but at least they used to 
pretend to care about the people who make it 
all possible, those who buy the tickets. And in 
a day when movies face more and more 
competition from all sorts of other kinds of 
entertainment, it may not be just the awards 
ceremony that sees its number of viewers continuing to fall in coming years.


This was once must-viewing for me. and I have 
watched it every year, but I think I will skip it next year.


Bruce

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Re: [MOPO] The Oscars

[Richard C Evans]

Herrmann got an Oscar for The Devil and Daniel Webster (1941), various other 
nominations, but not for Vertigo.

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On 27 Feb 2012, at 19:49, Simon Oram  wrote:

> I had been wondering how this score got the award especially as a few years 
> ago Johnny Greenwood's score for There Will be Blood was declared ineligable 
> for an Oscar nomination for exactly this type of technicality. By the way 
> Greenwood's score was the outstanding piece and a real shame it wasn't even 
> in the running.
> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device
> From: Colin Hunter 
> Sender: MoPo List 
> Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 14:20:58 -0500
> To: 
> ReplyTo: Colin Hunter 
> Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars
> 
> Given his substantial contribution to the finished product, shouldn't Lodovic 
> Bource have shared his Oscar with Bernard Herrmann for the score, or at the 
> very least acknowledged him in his thank you speech? Personally I much 
> preferred Howard Shore's more orchestral score for Hugo (and it was all his 
> own work to boot).
> 
> Colin
> 
> 
> 
>> From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Bruce 
>> Hershenson
>> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 7:56 AM
>> To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
>> Subject: [MOPO] The Oscars
>>  
>> It's the morning after, and overall, I thought it was a real snoozefest, 
>> Billy Crystal was entertaining, but SO familiar in everything he did and 
>> said. And was I the only one who kept wondering if he might have looked and 
>> performed better if he hadn't had his very obvious plastic surgery? And 
>> isn't it a bad sign when the best segment was the circus art, which has zero 
>> to do with movies.
>> 
>> It hit me when they did the "In Memorium" segment, and there were tons of 
>> behind the scenes people no one knows, with a few famous faces thrown in. 
>> They have successfully turned the Oscars into the Golden Globes, filled with 
>> insiders and inside jokes, where they pretty much ignore the viewing public, 
>> and give the awards to the movies THEY like. the kind that the critics fawn 
>> over, but which not many people actually see.
>> 
>> Of course, this transformation has been going on for many years, but at 
>> least they used to pretend to care about the people who make it all 
>> possible, those who buy the tickets. And in a day when movies face more and 
>> more competition from all sorts of other kinds of entertainment, it may not 
>> be just the awards ceremony that sees its number of viewers continuing to 
>> fall in coming years.
>> 
>> This was once must-viewing for me. and I have watched it every year, but I 
>> think I will skip it next year.
>> 
>> Bruce
>> 
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Re: [MOPO] The Oscars

[Toochis Morin]

What a great idea Alan!






From: Alan Heimann 
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Sent: Mon, February 27, 2012 11:19:53 AM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars

just a comment on cirque de soleilI thought they did a reasonably goos job 
at matching the acrobatics to the movies portrayed in the background..now 
wouldn't it have been nice to show the greatest show on earth or trapeze in the 
baqckgorund? Speaking of which kirby i might be interested in your FOH cards 
for 
trapeze..will contact you ..Alan


On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 1:57 PM, peter contarino  
wrote:

Best line of the night: Billy Crystal - “Nothing takes the sting out of the 
economic woes of the world like watching millionaires hand each other golden 
statues”.
> 
>-Peter
> 
>From:MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Bruce 
>Hershenson
>Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 7:56 AM
>To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
>Subject: [MOPO] The Oscars
> 
>It's the morning after, and overall, I thought it was a real snoozefest, Billy 
>Crystal was entertaining, but SO familiar in everything he did and said. And 
>was 
>I the only one who kept wondering if he might have looked and performed better 
>if he hadn't had his very obvious plastic surgery? And isn't it a bad sign 
>when 
>the best segment was the circus art, which has zero to do with movies. 
>
>
>
>It hit me when they did the "In Memorium" segment, and there were tons of 
>behind 
>the scenes people no one knows, with a few famous faces thrown in. They have 
>successfully turned the Oscars into the Golden Globes, filled with insiders 
>and 
>inside jokes, where they pretty much ignore the viewing public, and give the 
>awards to the movies THEY like. the kind that the critics fawn over, but which 
>not many people actually see.
>
>Of course, this transformation has been going on for many years, but at least 
>they used to pretend to care about the people who make it all possible, those 
>who buy the tickets. And in a day when movies face more and more competition 
>from all sorts of other kinds of entertainment, it may not be just the awards 
>ceremony that sees its number of viewers continuing to fall in coming years.
>
>This was once must-viewing for me. and I have watched it every year, but I 
>think 
>I will skip it next year.
>
>Bruce
>
>-- 
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Re: [MOPO] The Oscars

[Steve]

Also love watching the Oscars every year.  
 
Thanks to all who helped me find the Oscar Family Album portion of the 1997 
Academy Awards.  For those who are interested, the following Youtube links are 
of the part of that show when those who won previous awards for acting in 
starring and supporting roles were on stage and mentioned one at a time.  A 
small clip of their role and each receiving the award are shown.  They are 
alphabetical.
 Acting winners in Oscar Family Album Part 1 1997
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGqwXGiDw8E&feature=related
 
Acting winners in Oscar Family Album Part 2  1997
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WlDvrqGuzA



From: Steven Hill 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 9:12 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] F The Oscars


Not me... I love watching the Oscars every year.
 --
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From: Greg 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Sent: Mon, February 27, 2012 8:13:16 PM
Subject: [MOPO] F The Oscars

I've spent over 10 years on Mopo, and every year it's the same thing. The show 
sucks, everybody watches it anyway, and then whines about it the next day.
Man, I LOVE to bitch, kvetch and raise my voice in righteous indignation at the 
mediocrity being broadcast every year, but at some point, I made the decision 
to (drum roll)
QUIT WATCHING.
I started doing this 4-5 years ago and watching a couple really, really good 
films instead. It's 15 hours of my life I didn't piss away, and..well, last 
night, I watched A STAR IS BORN which I had never seen...on TCM. Lovely 
movie; the color was lush, the sound wonderful, and Garland was heartbreaking. 
I then watched MIDNIGHT IN PARIS, which I also loved. (If I was transported 
back to that time, I'd immediately find where Django Reinhardt was playing, get 
me a big bottle of Absinthe, and settle in for some serious guitar playing 
while green fairies danced around my head.) Than I watched my favorite guilty 
pleasure, THE WALKING DEAD. (Nathalie, do NOT watch this show, sweetie. You'll 
be in a rubber room forever.)
A pal of mine defines insanity as "doing the same thing over and over and and 
expecting different results". Sounds like the Oscars to me. I love my MOPO 
pals. Stop hurting yourselves before I have to do an intervention on you.
Greg Douglass

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Re: [MOPO] The Oscars

[Rodney Sims]

Why does Susan read out the announcement as though English is her second 
language?
R

Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 19:32:01 -0800
From: slsw2...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU

Also love watching the Oscars every year.  
 
Thanks to all who helped me find the Oscar Family Album portion of the 1997 
Academy Awards.  For those who are interested, the following Youtube links are 
of the part of that show when those who won previous awards for acting in 
starring and supporting roles were on stage and mentioned one at a time.  A 
small clip of their role and each receiving the award are shown.  They are 
alphabetical.
 
Acting winners in Oscar Family Album Part 1 1997
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGqwXGiDw8E&feature=related
 
Acting winners in Oscar Family Album Part 2  1997
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WlDvrqGuzA
 





From: Steven Hill 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 9:12 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] F The Oscars








Not me... I love watching the Oscars every year.
 --
Steven Warren Hill shil...@sbcglobal.net shil...@yahoo.com 





From: Greg 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Sent: Mon, February 27, 2012 8:13:16 PM
Subject: [MOPO] F The Oscars

I've spent over 10 years on Mopo, and every year it's the same thing. The show 
sucks, everybody watches it anyway, and then whines about it the next day.
Man, I LOVE to bitch, kvetch and raise my voice in righteous indignation at the 
mediocrity being broadcast every year, but at some point, I
 made the decision to (drum roll)
QUIT WATCHING.
I started doing this 4-5 years ago and watching a couple really, really good 
films instead. It's 15 hours of my life I didn't piss away, and..well, last 
night, I watched A STAR IS BORN which I had never seen...on TCM. Lovely 
movie; the color was lush, the sound wonderful, and Garland was heartbreaking. 
I then watched MIDNIGHT IN PARIS, which I also loved. (If I was transported 
back to that time, I'd immediately find where Django Reinhardt was playing, get 
me a big bottle of Absinthe, and settle in for some serious guitar playing 
while green fairies danced around my head.) Than I watched my favorite guilty 
pleasure, THE WALKING DEAD. (Nathalie, do NOT watch this show, sweetie. You'll 
be in a rubber room forever.)
A pal of mine defines insanity as "doing the same thing over and over and and 
expecting different results". Sounds like the Oscars to me. I love my MOPO 
pals. Stop hurting
 yourselves before I have to do an intervention on you.
Greg Douglass

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Re: [MOPO] The Oscars

[Bruce Hershenson]

I know what you mean Channing, and agree with it to a large degree, but it *
IS* kind of ironic that the stars you reference were 1940s and 1950s stars,
*EXACTLY* the kind of stars Gloria Swanson's Norma Desmond was criticizing
as being "faceless" (when compared to the classic silent stars)!

Maybe my children will one day be telling *THEIR* children that then-current
stars can't hold a candle to the "classic stars" of their time, like Robert
Pattinson or Kristen Stewart!

Bruce

On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 12:25 PM, channinglylethomson <
channinglylethom...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

> It was a good night for the actual winners.  I continue to feel that the
> Oscars are tending in the direction of awarding the rightful films the
> proper awards.  I was pleased that THE HURT LOCKER  won for Best Picture.
>  As to the ceremony itself, I thought all the big-time glamor was there and
> everyone looked great.  The one melancholy thing for me was how, for the
> first time, I really felt the absolute end of Old Hollywood.  The Golden
> Days are long gone, as are the stars.  I'm glad I'm old enough to have
> experienced them as a child when you could see the Oscars and still enjoy
> people like Bob Hope, Myrna Loy, Gregory Peck, Merle Oberon, Bette Davis,
> Olivia DeHavilland and so many more.  These people were simply larger than
> life.  Today's star's will never measure up simply because, as great as many
> of them are, they were not the people who founded an incredible
> entertainment industry!
>
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Re: [MOPO] The Oscars

[Kirby McDaniel]

And those two can't begin to touch Taylor Lautner.  Now, that's a 
billion-dollar smile!

Kirby


On Mar 8, 2010, at 12:32 PM, Bruce Hershenson wrote:

> I know what you mean Channing, and agree with it to a large degree, but it IS 
> kind of ironic that the stars you reference were 1940s and 1950s stars, 
> EXACTLY the kind of stars Gloria Swanson's Norma Desmond was criticizing as 
> being "faceless" (when compared to the classic silent stars)!
> 
> Maybe my children will one day be telling THEIR children that then-current 
> stars can't hold a candle to the "classic stars" of their time, like Robert 
> Pattinson or Kristen Stewart!
> 
> Bruce
> 
> On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 12:25 PM, channinglylethomson 
>  wrote:
> It was a good night for the actual winners.  I continue to feel that the 
> Oscars are tending in the direction of awarding the rightful films the proper 
> awards.  I was pleased that THE HURT LOCKER  won for Best Picture.  As to the 
> ceremony itself, I thought all the big-time glamor was there and everyone 
> looked great.  The one melancholy thing for me was how, for the first time, I 
> really felt the absolute end of Old Hollywood.  The Golden Days are long 
> gone, as are the stars.  I'm glad I'm old enough to have experienced them as 
> a child when you could see the Oscars and still enjoy people like Bob Hope, 
> Myrna Loy, Gregory Peck, Merle Oberon, Bette Davis, Olivia DeHavilland and so 
> many more.  These people were simply larger than life.  Today's star's will 
> never measure up simply because, as great as many of them are, they were not 
> the people who founded an incredible entertainment industry!
> 
> Channing Thomson
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[MOPO] The Oscars-Stars from the Past

[Jeff Potokar]

It is a shame. too, that the Academy did not continue with the  
segment they did, maybe one time, about 10 years ago, when they took  
15 minutes, opened the curtain, and there, onstage, were many of the  
stars from yesteryear, including people like olivia dehavilland,  
shirley temple, mickey rooney, and luise rainer. For those stars that  
are still able, physically, I think it a great way to pay tribute to  
them, as well as being able to see them again, rather than just  
reading some obit in Variety, or any other Entertainment section of  
one's local newspaper.


Jeff

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[MOPO] The Oscars - a slave to sentiment?

[Tommy Barr]

I know it's not really about posters, but I haven't read anything here
about the Oscars, so I wondered if any others share my puzzlement over
exactly what the criteria for 'best film' is?  Apart from the big one *12
Years A Slave * won 2 other Oscars, while *Gravity *won 7 awards, including
best director. Surely that must be a win on points for *Gravity*? Ellen
joked that either *12 Years *would win or else the Academy was racist, and
I suspect that the Afro-American dimension did, in fact, contribute to the
end decision. Racism does not necessarily have to express itself as hatred,
but it is not particularly edifying to see it expressed in a patronising
way either. I was saddened to see the great actor Sidney Poitier trundled
out to receive what was, given the occasion, something like a pat on the
head for his career and being the first black actor to win an Oscar for
Best Actor, and am I being in overly critical in the Academy then having
Will Smith present the Best Film award? There is no doubt that Hollywood,
like the rest of the USA, can have its conscience tugged when it comes to
the treatment of the Afro-American community. *Birth of a Nation *is hardly
an advert for multi-cultural harmony, and movies like the Marx Brothers *A
Day At The Races *have scenes which sit uncomfortably with present day
attitudes. Maybe the Academy felt some atonement was due for the failure of
 *The Color Purple *to win any awards? Anyway, as a non-American I may have
a jaundiced view which is not shared by others, but I am interested in
finding out what the views of MOPO subscribers are.

Tommy

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Re: [MOPO] The Oscars-Stars from the Past

[Kirby McDaniel]

Let's see, they could exhume them and line up the coffins.
K.

On Mar 8, 2010, at 12:37 PM, Jeff Potokar wrote:

> It is a shame. too, that the Academy did not continue with the segment they 
> did, maybe one time, about 10 years ago, when they took 15 minutes, opened 
> the curtain, and there, onstage, were many of the stars from yesteryear, 
> including people like olivia dehavilland, shirley temple, mickey rooney, and 
> luise rainer. For those stars that are still able, physically, I think it a 
> great way to pay tribute to them, as well as being able to see them again, 
> rather than just reading some obit in Variety, or any other Entertainment 
> section of one's local newspaper.
> 
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Re: [MOPO] The Oscars-Stars from the Past

[Doug Taylor]

I appreciated the tribute to the people we lost in 2009.

The simple, live performance of a song played over names and faces was a
tasteful change for me...simple and touching.

The hosting team was a disappointment for me.  Not that they were bad, but
that they just weren't as good as I was hoping they'd be.  It seemed like
two guys doing jokes rather than a comedy team.

I thought the individual introductions of the major nominees by colleagues
was nice touch.  Perhaps a little too long for each, but an interesting
change.  It was redundant to have the award presenter then immediately go
through their names again.

I thought Avatar was the best picture I saw this year, but says more about
the competition than about Avatar.  Having said that, I'm perfectly happy
that Hurt Locker won.  (wish I could find a copy of that "Cut the red one"
OS though...HELP!

Regards

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Subject: [MOPO] The Oscars-Stars from the Past

It is a shame. too, that the Academy did not continue with the  
segment they did, maybe one time, about 10 years ago, when they took  
15 minutes, opened the curtain, and there, onstage, were many of the  
stars from yesteryear, including people like olivia dehavilland,  
shirley temple, mickey rooney, and luise rainer. For those stars that  
are still able, physically, I think it a great way to pay tribute to  
them, as well as being able to see them again, rather than just  
reading some obit in Variety, or any other Entertainment section of  
one's local newspaper.

Jeff

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Re: [MOPO] The Oscars-Stars from the Past

[Jeff Potokar]

Channing,

My friend worked as a coordinator for the awards for a few years in  
the late 1990s... i asked her about this sequence and if it would  
continue.. she said that part of the problem was where some folks  
might be living, health issues and getting them here to LA, for this  
brief time on stage.. still if they are willing and want to attend, i  
think it should become a regular segment, if at all possible.


Jeff




On Mar 8, 2010, at 10:44 AM, channinglylethomson wrote:


Jeff --

I agree.  A lot of these people are still alive and well.  I was  
fortunate to actually attend the Oscars the year Titanic won and  
they were all on stage and as the curtain opened, it was a truly  
awesome experience to see them!


Channing

On Mar 8, 2010, at 10:37 AM, Jeff Potokar wrote:

It is a shame. too, that the Academy did not continue with the  
segment they did, maybe one time, about 10 years ago, when they  
took 15 minutes, opened the curtain, and there, onstage, were many  
of the stars from yesteryear, including people like olivia  
dehavilland, shirley temple, mickey rooney, and luise rainer. For  
those stars that are still able, physically, I think it a great  
way to pay tribute to them, as well as being able to see them  
again, rather than just reading some obit in Variety, or any other  
Entertainment section of one's local newspaper.


Jeff

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Re: [MOPO] The Oscars-Stars from the Past

[Jeff Potokar]

They did this last year, as well... not sure how well this plays, but  
the execs must have liked it enough to bring it back again.


I didnt like the fact that Tom Hanks simply walked out at the end,  
for Best Pic, and simply opened the envelope, and announced the  
winner, without one last naming of the nominees. That takes an extra  
30 secs and should have been kept as part of the process..




On Mar 8, 2010, at 10:46 AM, Doug Taylor wrote:

I thought the individual introductions of the major nominees by  
colleagues
was nice touch.  Perhaps a little too long for each, but an  
interesting
change.  It was redundant to have the award presenter then  
immediately go

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Re: [MOPO] The Oscars-Stars from the Past

[Doug Taylor]

I was lucky enough to attend for several years in the 1980's, when many of
the greats were still living and some actually showed up once in a while.

I got to see both Bob Hope and Johnny Carson host a crowd that was peppered
with greats from years gone by.

In one of the moments I'll never forget, as we were walking out one year a
friend I was with noticed Audrey Hepburn struggling to put her jacket on as
she walked and reached over to help her with it.  At first she was startled,
but quickly relaxed and thanked him.  It was an amazing brush with
greatness.

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Channing,

My friend worked as a coordinator for the awards for a few years in  
the late 1990s... i asked her about this sequence and if it would  
continue.. she said that part of the problem was where some folks  
might be living, health issues and getting them here to LA, for this  
brief time on stage.. still if they are willing and want to attend, i  
think it should become a regular segment, if at all possible.

Jeff




On Mar 8, 2010, at 10:44 AM, channinglylethomson wrote:

> Jeff --
>
> I agree.  A lot of these people are still alive and well.  I was  
> fortunate to actually attend the Oscars the year Titanic won and  
> they were all on stage and as the curtain opened, it was a truly  
> awesome experience to see them!
>
> Channing
>
> On Mar 8, 2010, at 10:37 AM, Jeff Potokar wrote:
>
>> It is a shame. too, that the Academy did not continue with the  
>> segment they did, maybe one time, about 10 years ago, when they  
>> took 15 minutes, opened the curtain, and there, onstage, were many  
>> of the stars from yesteryear, including people like olivia  
>> dehavilland, shirley temple, mickey rooney, and luise rainer. For  
>> those stars that are still able, physically, I think it a great  
>> way to pay tribute to them, as well as being able to see them  
>> again, rather than just reading some obit in Variety, or any other  
>> Entertainment section of one's local newspaper.
>>
>> Jeff
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Re: [MOPO] The Oscars - a slave to sentiment?

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One thing I am certain of is that if you are a fan of the "Ellen" TV show,
then you surely liked the Oscar telecast. And if you like watching people
pat themselves and their peers on the back, you were surely in hog heaven.

I know I am getting really old, because I think the modern "stars" can't
hold a candle to the stars of the 1920s to 1960s.

I always hated those "production numbers". I would SO rather see old-time
stars, and not just given a second and then shuffled off stage.  How about
clips of classic movies that DON'T last three seconds each?


On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:47 AM, Tommy Barr  wrote:

> I know it's not really about posters, but I haven't read anything here
> about the Oscars, so I wondered if any others share my puzzlement over
> exactly what the criteria for 'best film' is?  Apart from the big one *12
> Years A Slave * won 2 other Oscars, while *Gravity *won 7 awards,
> including best director. Surely that must be a win on points for *Gravity*?
> Ellen joked that either *12 Years *would win or else the Academy was
> racist, and I suspect that the Afro-American dimension did, in fact,
> contribute to the end decision. Racism does not necessarily have to express
> itself as hatred, but it is not particularly edifying to see it expressed
> in a patronising way either. I was saddened to see the great actor Sidney
> Poitier trundled out to receive what was, given the occasion, something
> like a pat on the head for his career and being the first black actor to
> win an Oscar for Best Actor, and am I being in overly critical in the
> Academy then having Will Smith present the Best Film award? There is no
> doubt that Hollywood, like the rest of the USA, can have its conscience
> tugged when it comes to the treatment of the Afro-American community. *Birth
> of a Nation *is hardly an advert for multi-cultural harmony, and movies
> like the Marx Brothers *A Day At The Races *have scenes which sit
> uncomfortably with present day attitudes. Maybe the Academy felt some
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Re: [MOPO] The Oscars - a slave to sentiment?

[Zeev Drach]

My instinctive reaction re modern "stars" is the same as yours, but after
thinking a moment you realize that for a good chunk of viewers, if not the
majority, Robert  De Niro IS an old-time star!  Anybody prior is a vaguely
familiar.  All this means is that some of us, like you yourself suggested,
are getting really old!

 

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One thing I am certain of is that if you are a fan of the "Ellen" TV show,
then you surely liked the Oscar telecast. And if you like watching people
pat themselves and their peers on the back, you were surely in hog heaven.

I know I am getting really old, because I think the modern "stars" can't
hold a candle to the stars of the 1920s to 1960s.

I always hated those "production numbers". I would SO rather see old-time
stars, and not just given a second and then shuffled off stage.  How about
clips of classic movies that DON'T last three seconds each?

 

On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:47 AM, Tommy Barr  wrote:

I know it's not really about posters, but I haven't read anything here about
the Oscars, so I wondered if any others share my puzzlement over exactly
what the criteria for 'best film' is?  Apart from the big one 12 Years A
Slave  won 2 other Oscars, while Gravity won 7 awards, including best
director. Surely that must be a win on points for Gravity? Ellen joked that
either 12 Years would win or else the Academy was racist, and I suspect that
the Afro-American dimension did, in fact, contribute to the end decision.
Racism does not necessarily have to express itself as hatred, but it is not
particularly edifying to see it expressed in a patronising way either. I was
saddened to see the great actor Sidney Poitier trundled out to receive what
was, given the occasion, something like a pat on the head for his career and
being the first black actor to win an Oscar for Best Actor, and am I being
in overly critical in the Academy then having Will Smith present the Best
Film award? There is no doubt that Hollywood, like the rest of the USA, can
have its conscience tugged when it comes to the treatment of the
Afro-American community. Birth of a Nation is hardly an advert for
multi-cultural harmony, and movies like the Marx Brothers A Day At The Races
have scenes which sit uncomfortably with present day attitudes. Maybe the
Academy felt some atonement was due for the failure of  The Color Purple to
win any awards? Anyway, as a non-American I may have a jaundiced view which
is not shared by others, but I am interested in finding out what the views
of MOPO subscribers are.

 

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Re: [MOPO] The Oscars - a slave to sentiment?

[Scott Burns]

There was a time when the Academy celebrated the magic of the movies, both
past AND present. That's clearly not the case these days. The only "salute"
to Hollywood's past was the Oz tribute-but they didn't think enough of
Garland's offspring to even bring them up on stage. Couldn't the last
surviving Munchkin, Jerry Maren make an appearance? Nothing against Pink,
but what relevance to Oz did she have? Major missed opportunity Academy!

 

It seemed to me that no one in the audience even recognized Kim Novak
(please no plastic surgery jokes). No standing ovation for this star of the
50's/60's? There's no excuse for anyone in the movie biz not having ever
seen "Vertigo" or "Picnic."

 

And no tribute to Shirley Temple? Come on. Even those members of "new
Hollywood" must have watched a few Temple films when they were growing up.
Of course my beef about classic stars goes beyond the Oscars. Entertainment
Weekly puts Phillip Seymour Hoffman on the cover when he kills himself via a
drug overdose, yet arguably the biggest star of the 1930's gets no mention
on the cover at all? She did get 2 pages inside, but I was surprised they
gave her even that much space.

 

Even when I was in my 20's and watching the Oscars, I always enjoyed seeing
the classic stars who had dropped out of the limelight. I enjoyed the
honorary Oscar presentation and even the Jean Hersholt award .now such
honors have been moved off the Oscar telecast completely.

 

Not to diss the younger generation, but the world did exist before you were
born and there are people and events worth knowing about. I work with some
people who's pop culture knowledge only reaches back as far as the "Alf" TV
show in the 1990's. Scary!!!  

 

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To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
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My instinctive reaction re modern "stars" is the same as yours, but after
thinking a moment you realize that for a good chunk of viewers, if not the
majority, Robert  De Niro IS an old-time star!  Anybody prior is a vaguely
familiar.  All this means is that some of us, like you yourself suggested,
are getting really old!

 

Zeev

 

 

 

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Hershenson
Sent: March 4, 2014 8:14 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars - a slave to sentiment?

 

One thing I am certain of is that if you are a fan of the "Ellen" TV show,
then you surely liked the Oscar telecast. And if you like watching people
pat themselves and their peers on the back, you were surely in hog heaven.

I know I am getting really old, because I think the modern "stars" can't
hold a candle to the stars of the 1920s to 1960s.

I always hated those "production numbers". I would SO rather see old-time
stars, and not just given a second and then shuffled off stage.  How about
clips of classic movies that DON'T last three seconds each?

 

On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:47 AM, Tommy Barr  wrote:

I know it's not really about posters, but I haven't read anything here about
the Oscars, so I wondered if any others share my puzzlement over exactly
what the criteria for 'best film' is?  Apart from the big one 12 Years A
Slave  won 2 other Oscars, while Gravity won 7 awards, including best
director. Surely that must be a win on points for Gravity? Ellen joked that
either 12 Years would win or else the Academy was racist, and I suspect that
the Afro-American dimension did, in fact, contribute to the end decision.
Racism does not necessarily have to express itself as hatred, but it is not
particularly edifying to see it expressed in a patronising way either. I was
saddened to see the great actor Sidney Poitier trundled out to receive what
was, given the occasion, something like a pat on the head for his career and
being the first black actor to win an Oscar for Best Actor, and am I being
in overly critical in the Academy then having Will Smith present the Best
Film award? There is no doubt that Hollywood, like the rest of the USA, can
have its conscience tugged when it comes to the treatment of the
Afro-American community. Birth of a Nation is hardly an advert for
multi-cultural harmony, and movies like the Marx Brothers A Day At The Races
have scenes which sit uncomfortably with present day attitudes. Maybe the
Academy felt some atonement was due for the failure of  The Color Purple to
win any awards? Anyway, as a non-American I may have a jaundiced view which
is not shared by others, but I am interested in finding out what the views
of MOPO subscribers are.

 

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Re: [MOPO] The Oscars - a slave to sentiment?

[Channing Thomson]

What's Alf?  On a more serious note, I felt the reaction to Kim Novak was 
painful and cruel and left me feeling down for a couple of days.  I didn't like 
the overall tone of the Awards this year.  I'd like to see a little more focus 
on film history and the people that made the industry great as well as a return 
to it being presented as an Academy and not a celebrity roast.  Channing Thomson

On Mar 4, 2014, at 9:29 AM, Scott Burns  wrote:

> There was a time when the Academy celebrated the magic of the movies, both 
> past AND present. That’s clearly not the case these days. The only “salute” 
> to Hollywood’s past was the Oz tribute—but they didn’t think enough of 
> Garland’s offspring to even bring them up on stage. Couldn’t the last 
> surviving Munchkin, Jerry Maren make an appearance? Nothing against Pink, but 
> what relevance to Oz did she have? Major missed opportunity Academy!
>  
> It seemed to me that no one in the audience even recognized Kim Novak (please 
> no plastic surgery jokes). No standing ovation for this star of the 
> 50’s/60’s? There’s no excuse for anyone in the movie biz not having ever seen 
> “Vertigo” or “Picnic.”
>  
> And no tribute to Shirley Temple? Come on. Even those members of “new 
> Hollywood” must have watched a few Temple films when they were growing up. Of 
> course my beef about classic stars goes beyond the Oscars. Entertainment 
> Weekly puts Phillip Seymour Hoffman on the cover when he kills himself via a 
> drug overdose, yet arguably the biggest star of the 1930’s gets no mention on 
> the cover at all? She did get 2 pages inside, but I was surprised they gave 
> her even that much space.
>  
> Even when I was in my 20’s and watching the Oscars, I always enjoyed seeing 
> the classic stars who had dropped out of the limelight. I enjoyed the 
> honorary Oscar presentation and even the Jean Hersholt award …now such honors 
> have been moved off the Oscar telecast completely.
>  
> Not to diss the younger generation, but the world did exist before you were 
> born and there are people and events worth knowing about. I work with some 
> people who’s pop culture knowledge only reaches back as far as the “Alf” TV 
> show in the 1990’s. Scary!!! 
>  
> Scott
> MoPo List Owner
>  
>  
>  
>  
> From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Zeev Drach
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 9:47 AM
> To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
> Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars - a slave to sentiment?
>  
> My instinctive reaction re modern “stars” is the same as yours, but after 
> thinking a moment you realize that for a good chunk of viewers, if not the 
> majority, Robert  De Niro IS an old-time star!  Anybody prior is a vaguely 
> familiar.  All this means is that some of us, like you yourself suggested, 
> are getting really old!
>  
> Zeev
>  
>  
>  
> From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Bruce 
> Hershenson
> Sent: March 4, 2014 8:14 AM
> To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
> Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars - a slave to sentiment?
>  
> One thing I am certain of is that if you are a fan of the "Ellen" TV show, 
> then you surely liked the Oscar telecast. And if you like watching people pat 
> themselves and their peers on the back, you were surely in hog heaven.
> 
> I know I am getting really old, because I think the modern "stars" can't hold 
> a candle to the stars of the 1920s to 1960s.
> 
> I always hated those "production numbers". I would SO rather see old-time 
> stars, and not just given a second and then shuffled off stage.  How about 
> clips of classic movies that DON'T last three seconds each?
>  
> 
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:47 AM, Tommy Barr  wrote:
> I know it’s not really about posters, but I haven’t read anything here about 
> the Oscars, so I wondered if any others share my puzzlement over exactly what 
> the criteria for ‘best film’ is?  Apart from the big one 12 Years A Slave  
> won 2 other Oscars, while Gravity won 7 awards, including best director. 
> Surely that must be a win on points for Gravity? Ellen joked that either 12 
> Years would win or else the Academy was racist, and I suspect that the 
> Afro-American dimension did, in fact, contribute to the end decision. Racism 
> does not necessarily have to express itself as hatred, but it is not 
> particularly edifying to see it expressed in a patronising way either. I was 
> saddened to see the great actor Sidney Poitier trundled out to receive what 
> was, given the occasion, something like a pat on the head for his career and 
> being the first black actor to win an Oscar for Best Actor, and am I being in 
> overly critical in the Academy then

Re: [MOPO] The Oscars - a slave to sentiment?

[Kirby McDaniel]

I have one comment.  I think that the Best Picture clips were better when they 
used to be short scenes from the films rather than these mash-ups that they do 
now. 

Other than that I can’t really comment much about them because I missed them 
for the FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE!  I attended a concert by The Cleveland Orchestra 
on Sunday
night.  Since the orchestra was utterly FABULOUS, I don’t feel bereft of 
anything.  I did see the last few awards.  The nominees were all in pretty good 
company this year.  Some
outstanding pictures.  You people in Cleveland are lucky to have that wonderful 
orchestra.  They played a great program at the Menuhin Festival here, including 
the Tchaikovsky
5th Symphony which was a tour de force.  An orchestra of that dimension - 
is the highest - fi there is.



Kirby

On Mar 4, 2014, at 12:34 PM, Channing Thomson  
wrote:

> What's Alf?  On a more serious note, I felt the reaction to Kim Novak was 
> painful and cruel and left me feeling down for a couple of days.  I didn't 
> like the overall tone of the Awards this year.  I'd like to see a little more 
> focus on film history and the people that made the industry great as well as 
> a return to it being presented as an Academy and not a celebrity roast.  
> Channing Thomson
> 
> On Mar 4, 2014, at 9:29 AM, Scott Burns  wrote:
> 
>> There was a time when the Academy celebrated the magic of the movies, both 
>> past AND present. That’s clearly not the case these days. The only “salute” 
>> to Hollywood’s past was the Oz tribute—but they didn’t think enough of 
>> Garland’s offspring to even bring them up on stage. Couldn’t the last 
>> surviving Munchkin, Jerry Maren make an appearance? Nothing against Pink, 
>> but what relevance to Oz did she have? Major missed opportunity Academy!
>>  
>> It seemed to me that no one in the audience even recognized Kim Novak 
>> (please no plastic surgery jokes). No standing ovation for this star of the 
>> 50’s/60’s? There’s no excuse for anyone in the movie biz not having ever 
>> seen “Vertigo” or “Picnic.”
>>  
>> And no tribute to Shirley Temple? Come on. Even those members of “new 
>> Hollywood” must have watched a few Temple films when they were growing up. 
>> Of course my beef about classic stars goes beyond the Oscars. Entertainment 
>> Weekly puts Phillip Seymour Hoffman on the cover when he kills himself via a 
>> drug overdose, yet arguably the biggest star of the 1930’s gets no mention 
>> on the cover at all? She did get 2 pages inside, but I was surprised they 
>> gave her even that much space.
>>  
>> Even when I was in my 20’s and watching the Oscars, I always enjoyed seeing 
>> the classic stars who had dropped out of the limelight. I enjoyed the 
>> honorary Oscar presentation and even the Jean Hersholt award …now such 
>> honors have been moved off the Oscar telecast completely.
>>  
>> Not to diss the younger generation, but the world did exist before you were 
>> born and there are people and events worth knowing about. I work with some 
>> people who’s pop culture knowledge only reaches back as far as the “Alf” TV 
>> show in the 1990’s. Scary!!! 
>>  
>> Scott
>> MoPo List Owner
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Zeev Drach
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 9:47 AM
>> To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
>> Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars - a slave to sentiment?
>>  
>> My instinctive reaction re modern “stars” is the same as yours, but after 
>> thinking a moment you realize that for a good chunk of viewers, if not the 
>> majority, Robert  De Niro IS an old-time star!  Anybody prior is a vaguely 
>> familiar.  All this means is that some of us, like you yourself suggested, 
>> are getting really old!
>>  
>> Zeev
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Bruce 
>> Hershenson
>> Sent: March 4, 2014 8:14 AM
>> To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
>> Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars - a slave to sentiment?
>>  
>> One thing I am certain of is that if you are a fan of the "Ellen" TV show, 
>> then you surely liked the Oscar telecast. And if you like watching people 
>> pat themselves and their peers on the back, you were surely in hog heaven.
>> 
>> I know I am getting really old, because I think the modern "stars" can't 
>> hold a candle to the stars of the 1920s to 1960s.
>> 
>> I always hated those "production numbers". I would SO rather see old-time 
>> stars, and not just given a second and then shuffled off 

Re: [MOPO] The Oscars - a slave to sentiment?

[Phillip Ayling]

I agree with all that has been said about the Academy Awards.but at the risk
of saying the obvious, it is really a moneymaking TV Special at its core.
That is about maximizing audience size and  desired demographics for
advertisers. The Producers of the broadcast may be more or less successful
about that during any given year, but I don't see the mandate changing.
Someday there will be Production meetings arguing about whether there should
be  5 seconds, 10 seconds or a 0 seconds cutaway to 80 year old Oscar winner
Jennifer Lawrence.

 

 

From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Channing
Thomson
Sent: Tuesday, March 4, 2014 10:34 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars - a slave to sentiment?

 

What's Alf?  On a more serious note, I felt the reaction to Kim Novak was
painful and cruel and left me feeling down for a couple of days.  I didn't
like the overall tone of the Awards this year.  I'd like to see a little
more focus on film history and the people that made the industry great as
well as a return to it being presented as an Academy and not a celebrity
roast.  Channing Thomson

 

On Mar 4, 2014, at 9:29 AM, Scott Burns mailto:s...@columbus.rr.com> > wrote:





There was a time when the Academy celebrated the magic of the movies, both
past AND present. That's clearly not the case these days. The only "salute"
to Hollywood's past was the Oz tribute-but they didn't think enough of
Garland's offspring to even bring them up on stage. Couldn't the last
surviving Munchkin, Jerry Maren make an appearance? Nothing against Pink,
but what relevance to Oz did she have? Major missed opportunity Academy!

 

It seemed to me that no one in the audience even recognized Kim Novak
(please no plastic surgery jokes). No standing ovation for this star of the
50's/60's? There's no excuse for anyone in the movie biz not having ever
seen "Vertigo" or "Picnic."

 

And no tribute to Shirley Temple? Come on. Even those members of "new
Hollywood" must have watched a few Temple films when they were growing up.
Of course my beef about classic stars goes beyond the Oscars. Entertainment
Weekly puts Phillip Seymour Hoffman on the cover when he kills himself via a
drug overdose, yet arguably the biggest star of the 1930's gets no mention
on the cover at all? She did get 2 pages inside, but I was surprised they
gave her even that much space.

 

Even when I was in my 20's and watching the Oscars, I always enjoyed seeing
the classic stars who had dropped out of the limelight. I enjoyed the
honorary Oscar presentation and even the Jean Hersholt award .now such
honors have been moved off the Oscar telecast completely.

 

Not to diss the younger generation, but the world did exist before you were
born and there are people and events worth knowing about. I work with some
people who's pop culture knowledge only reaches back as far as the "Alf" TV
show in the 1990's. Scary!!! 

 

Scott

MoPo List Owner

 

 

 

 

From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo- <mailto:l...@listserv.american.edu>
l...@listserv.american.edu] On Behalf Of Zeev Drach
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 9:47 AM
To:  <mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars - a slave to sentiment?

 

My instinctive reaction re modern "stars" is the same as yours, but after
thinking a moment you realize that for a good chunk of viewers, if not the
majority, Robert  De Niro IS an old-time star!  Anybody prior is a vaguely
familiar.  All this means is that some of us, like you yourself suggested,
are getting really old!

 

Zeev

 

 

 

From: MoPo List [ <mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU>
mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Bruce Hershenson
Sent: March 4, 2014 8:14 AM
To:  <mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars - a slave to sentiment?

 

One thing I am certain of is that if you are a fan of the "Ellen" TV show,
then you surely liked the Oscar telecast. And if you like watching people
pat themselves and their peers on the back, you were surely in hog heaven.

I know I am getting really old, because I think the modern "stars" can't
hold a candle to the stars of the 1920s to 1960s.

I always hated those "production numbers". I would SO rather see old-time
stars, and not just given a second and then shuffled off stage.  How about
clips of classic movies that DON'T last three seconds each?

 

On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:47 AM, Tommy Barr < <mailto:tommymb...@gmail.com>
tommymb...@gmail.com> wrote:

I know it's not really about posters, but I haven't read anything here about
the Oscars, so I wondered if any others share my puzzlement over exactly
what the criteria for 'best film'

Re: [MOPO] The Oscars - a slave to sentiment?

[Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art]

Kirby's comment actually highlights one of the 
differences between today's film editing techniques and the old techniques:


today's films - particularly those by Zach Snyder 
for instance - are overloaded with staccato 15 
frame edits to force visual action. You hardly see what the camera setup was.


This would be unlike the long orations of a few 
seconds or longer, or the focus on a star's face for many seconds


of course, add the staccato edits to low lighting 
techniques used commonly today and you always 
have a feeling you missed lots of imagery


it makes sense that the current audience is more 
interested in these fast clips than a 3.5 minute 
Kubrick take as in Paths of Glory or the one by 
Welles at the beginning of Touch of Evil


is it progress? that's for the historians to pronouce down the road

Rich

At 11:40 AM 3/4/2014, Kirby McDaniel wrote:
I have one comment.  I think that the Best 
Picture clips were better when they used to be 
short scenes from the films rather than these mash-ups that they do now.


Other than that I can’t really comment much 
about them because I missed them for the FIRST 
TIME IN MY LIFE!  I attended a concert by The Cleveland Orchestra on Sunday
night.  Since the orchestra was utterly 
FABULOUS, I don’t feel bereft of anything.  I 
did see the last few awards.  The nominees were 
all in pretty good company this year.  Some
outstanding pictures.  You people in Cleveland 
are lucky to have that wonderful 
orchestra.  They played a great program at the 
Menuhin Festival here, including the Tchaikovsky
5th Symphony which was a tour de force.  An 
orchestra of that dimension - is the highest - fi there is.




Kirby

On Mar 4, 2014, at 12:34 PM, Channing Thomson 
<<mailto:channinglylethom...@att.net>channinglylethom...@att.net> wrote:


What's Alf?  On a more serious note, I felt the 
reaction to Kim Novak was painful and cruel and 
left me feeling down for a couple of days.  I 
didn't like the overall tone of the Awards this 
year.  I'd like to see a little more focus on 
film history and the people that made the 
industry great as well as a return to it being 
presented as an Academy and not a celebrity roast.  Channing Thomson


On Mar 4, 2014, at 9:29 AM, Scott Burns 
<<mailto:s...@columbus.rr.com>s...@columbus.rr.com> wrote:


There was a time when the Academy celebrated 
the magic of the movies, both past AND 
present. That’s clearly not the case these 
days. The only “salute” to Hollywood’s past 
was the Oz tribute—but they didn’t think 
enough of Garland’s offspring to even bring 
them up on stage. Couldn’t the last surviving 
Munchkin, Jerry Maren make an appearance? 
Nothing against Pink, but what relevance to Oz 
did she have? Major missed opportunity Academy!


It seemed to me that no one in the audience 
even recognized Kim Novak (please no plastic 
surgery jokes). No standing ovation for this 
star of the 50’s/60’s? There’s no excuse for 
anyone in the movie biz not having ever seen “Vertigo” or “Picnic.”


And no tribute to Shirley Temple? Come on. 
Even those members of “new Hollywood” must 
have watched a few Temple films when they were 
growing up. Of course my beef about classic 
stars goes beyond the Oscars. Entertainment 
Weekly puts Phillip Seymour Hoffman on the 
cover when he kills himself via a drug 
overdose, yet arguably the biggest star of the 
1930’s gets no mention on the cover at all? 
She did get 2 pages inside, but I was 
surprised they gave her even that much space.


Even when I was in my 20’s and watching the 
Oscars, I always enjoyed seeing the classic 
stars who had dropped out of the limelight. I 
enjoyed the honorary Oscar presentation and 
even the Jean Hersholt award …now such honors 
have been moved off the Oscar telecast completely.


Not to diss the younger generation, but the 
world did exist before you were born and there 
are people and events worth knowing about. I 
work with some people who’s pop culture 
knowledge only reaches back as far as the 
“Alf” TV show in the 1990’s. Scary!!!


Scott
MoPo List Owner




From: MoPo List 
[mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Zeev Drach

Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 9:47 AM
To: <mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU>MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars - a slave to sentiment?

My instinctive reaction re modern “stars” is 
the same as yours, but after thinking a moment 
you realize that for a good chunk of viewers, 
if not the majority, Robert  De Niro IS an 
old-time star!  Anybody prior is a vaguely 
familiar.  All this means is that some of us, 
like you yourself suggested, are getting really old!


Zeev



From: MoPo List 
[<mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU>mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] 
On Behalf Of Bruce Hershenson

Sent: March 4, 2014 8:14 AM
To: <mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU>MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscar

Re: [MOPO] The Oscars - a slave to sentiment?

[Kirby McDaniel]

Those clips could not have been longer than two minutes if that.  It would be 
interesting to know whether The Academy has those
clips archived.  I still remember the one from BEN HUR.

Am I wrong — or did they have those clips for the Best Actor / Best Actress 
awards too?

K.

On Mar 4, 2014, at 2:02 PM, Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art 
 wrote:

> Kirby's comment actually highlights one of the differences between today's 
> film editing techniques and the old techniques:
> 
> today's films - particularly those by Zach Snyder for instance - are 
> overloaded with staccato 15 frame edits to force visual action. You hardly 
> see what the camera setup was.
> 
> This would be unlike the long orations of a few seconds or longer, or the 
> focus on a star's face for many seconds
> 
> of course, add the staccato edits to low lighting techniques used commonly 
> today and you always have a feeling you missed lots of imagery
> 
> it makes sense that the current audience is more interested in these fast 
> clips than a 3.5 minute Kubrick take as in Paths of Glory or the one by 
> Welles at the beginning of Touch of Evil
> 
> is it progress? that's for the historians to pronouce down the road
> 
> Rich
> 
> At 11:40 AM 3/4/2014, Kirby McDaniel wrote:
>> I have one comment.  I think that the Best Picture clips were better when 
>> they used to be short scenes from the films rather than these mash-ups that 
>> they do now. 
>> 
>> Other than that I can’t really comment much about them because I missed them 
>> for the FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE!  I attended a concert by The Cleveland 
>> Orchestra on Sunday
>> night.  Since the orchestra was utterly FABULOUS, I don’t feel bereft of 
>> anything.  I did see the last few awards.  The nominees were all in pretty 
>> good company this year.  Some
>> outstanding pictures.  You people in Cleveland are lucky to have that 
>> wonderful orchestra.  They played a great program at the Menuhin Festival 
>> here, including the Tchaikovsky
>> 5th Symphony which was a tour de force.  An orchestra of that dimension 
>> - is the highest - fi there is.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Kirby
>> 
>> On Mar 4, 2014, at 12:34 PM, Channing Thomson < channinglylethom...@att.net> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> What's Alf?  On a more serious note, I felt the reaction to Kim Novak was 
>>> painful and cruel and left me feeling down for a couple of days.  I didn't 
>>> like the overall tone of the Awards this year.  I'd like to see a little 
>>> more focus on film history and the people that made the industry great as 
>>> well as a return to it being presented as an Academy and not a celebrity 
>>> roast.  Channing Thomson
>>> 
>>> On Mar 4, 2014, at 9:29 AM, Scott Burns  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> There was a time when the Academy celebrated the magic of the movies, both 
>>>> past AND present. That’s clearly not the case these days. The only 
>>>> “salute” to Hollywood’s past was the Oz tribute—but they didn’t think 
>>>> enough of Garland’s offspring to even bring them up on stage. Couldn’t the 
>>>> last surviving Munchkin, Jerry Maren make an appearance? Nothing against 
>>>> Pink, but what relevance to Oz did she have? Major missed opportunity 
>>>> Academy!
>>>>  
>>>> It seemed to me that no one in the audience even recognized Kim Novak 
>>>> (please no plastic surgery jokes). No standing ovation for this star of 
>>>> the 50’s/60’s? There’s no excuse for anyone in the movie biz not having 
>>>> ever seen “Vertigo” or “Picnic.”
>>>>  
>>>> And no tribute to Shirley Temple? Come on. Even those members of “new 
>>>> Hollywood” must have watched a few Temple films when they were growing up. 
>>>> Of course my beef about classic stars goes beyond the Oscars. 
>>>> Entertainment Weekly puts Phillip Seymour Hoffman on the cover when he 
>>>> kills himself via a drug overdose, yet arguably the biggest star of the 
>>>> 1930’s gets no mention on the cover at all? She did get 2 pages inside, 
>>>> but I was surprised they gave her even that much space.
>>>>  
>>>> Even when I was in my 20’s and watching the Oscars, I always enjoyed 
>>>> seeing the classic stars who had dropped out of the limelight. I enjoyed 
>>>> the honorary Oscar presentation and even the Jean Hersholt award …now such 
>>>> honors have been moved off the Oscar telecast completely.
>>>>  
>>>> Not to diss the youn

Re: [MOPO] The Oscars - a slave to sentiment?

[Joseph Bonelli]

ut they didn’t think enough of Garland’s offspring to
even bring them up on stage. Couldn’t the last surviving Munchkin, Jerry
Maren make an appearance? Nothing against Pink, but what relevance to Oz
did she have? Major missed opportunity Academy!
>>>> 
>>>>It seemed to me that no one in the audience even recognized Kim Novak
(please no plastic surgery jokes). No standing ovation for this star of
the 50’s/60’s? There’s no excuse for anyone in the movie biz not having
ever seen “Vertigo” or “Picnic.”
>>>> 
>>>>And no tribute to Shirley Temple? Come on. Even those members of “new
Hollywood” must have watched a few Temple films when they were growing
up. Of course my beef about classic stars goes beyond the Oscars.
Entertainment Weekly puts Phillip Seymour Hoffman on the cover when he
kills himself via a drug overdose, yet arguably the biggest star of the
1930’s gets no mention on the cover at all? She did get 2 pages inside,
but I was surprised they gave her even that much space.
>>>> 
>>>>Even when I was in my 20’s and watching the Oscars, I always enjoyed
seeing the classic stars who had dropped out of the limelight. I enjoyed
the honorary Oscar presentation and even the Jean Hersholt award …now
such honors have been moved off the Oscar telecast completely.
>>>> 
>>>>Not to diss the younger generation, but the world did exist before you
were born and there are people and events worth knowing about. I work
with some people who’s pop culture knowledge only reaches back as far as
the “Alf” TV show in the 1990’s. Scary!!! 
>>>> 
>>>>Scott
>>>>MoPo List Owner
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>From: MoPo List
[mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Zeev
Drach
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 9:47 AM
>>>>To: mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
>>>>Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars - a slave to sentiment?
>>>> 
>>>>My instinctive reaction re modern “stars” is the same as yours, but after
thinking a moment you realize that for a good chunk of viewers, if not
the majority, Robert  De Niro IS an old-time star!  Anybody
prior is a vaguely familiar.  All this means is that some of us,
like you yourself suggested, are getting really old!
>>>> 
>>>>Zeev
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>From: MoPo List
[mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Bruce
Hershenson
>>>>Sent: March 4, 2014 8:14 AM
>>>>To: mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
>>>>Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars - a slave to sentiment?
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>>One thing I am certain of is that if you are a fan of the
"Ellen" TV show, then you surely liked the Oscar telecast. And
if you like watching people pat themselves and their peers on the back,
you were surely in hog heaven.
>>>>
>>>>I know I am getting really old, because I think the modern
"stars" can't hold a candle to the stars of the 1920s to
1960s.
>>>>I always hated those "production numbers". I would SO rather
see old-time stars, and not just given a second and then shuffled off
stage.  How about clips of classic movies that DON'T last three
seconds each?
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:47 AM, Tommy Barr

wrote:
>>>>I know it’s not really about posters, but I haven’t read anything here
about the Oscars, so I wondered if any others share my puzzlement over
exactly what the criteria for ‘best film’ is?  Apart from the big
one 12 Years A Slave  won 2 other Oscars, while Gravity won
7 awards, including best director. Surely that must be a win on points
for Gravity? Ellen joked that either 12 Years would win or
else the Academy was racist, and I suspect that the Afro-American
dimension did, in fact, contribute to the end decision. Racism does not
necessarily have to express itself as hatred, but it is not particularly
edifying to see it expressed in a patronising way either. I was saddened
to see the great actor Sidney Poitier trundled out to receive what was,
given the occasion, something like a pat on the head for his career and
being the first black actor to win an Oscar for Best Actor, and am I
being in overly critical in the Academy then having Will Smith present
the Best Film award? There is no doubt that Hollywood, like the rest of
the USA, can have its conscience tugged when it comes to the treatment of
the Afro-American community. Birth of a Nation is hardly an advert
for multi-cultural harmony, and movies like the Marx Brothers A Day At
The Races have scenes which sit uncomfortably with present day
attitudes. Maybe the Academy felt some atonement was due for the failure
of  The Color P

Re: [MOPO] The Oscars - a slave to sentiment?

[Tom Martin]

Hey folks from a viewpoint of motion picture fan and all the
nostalgia associted.. I thought when Ellen had pizze delivered it was
a big cultual statementsee... I think the days of old have
passed.and to see people like scorsese and Pitt eating Pizzas in
Tuxes showed that the Glamour years of Hollywood are a menory,, these
Kids and peopel just are not the same.. or think the same.
which is Ok... as it was a period we where lucking to even see on
film or in photos,,, But today people are thinking more modest
living..and so much is casual... as far as etiquite well archabald
Leach has passed away... the rat packs vegas fun is gone..the many
femmgattles or screen queens are very few..IMHO... they have
forgotten already the  many that Formed Hollywood as we saw it from 
the teens to say 80s...after theytook out the Picture palaces and
Ballyhoo of film promotion with lavish theater interiors and
exteriors and the grand exhibition and highly skilled Film
projectionists its really like a cheap automatic laundry and why with
high costs and digital prints that are just an excuse to ctrank up
the volume and  create video games o n screen  its all gone..
sure a few get through but its either recanned  stuff and more
selected to deomgraphic which are KIds,,, not old movie buffs,,, as
far as the Oscars... Its was sad for me to see the few older stars be
made fun of,,, and most of the peopel I was not familier with...
special effects are great but now seem like 80% if te story
the novie poster art is almost all gone also as most people
preder a trailer now on the net,,,
the popcorn is way overpriced and the overall mood of the industry is
to make blockbuster comic book films... why?? because your average
movie lover wants.. Horror, shootem up crime, and action...
and a few watch small venue art films... its been going this way
since the 1960s really,,,  because of production costa and public
interet the good news is the Pizza guy at the oscars has been
busy,,, so that sums up my take,,,next year they should drop the
Tuxes and wear bermuda shorts and they will be all set and same  more
money,  I like ever one liked the respect the Oscars gave the starts
of Hollywood... But when I consider who they are now.. there are not
as many as we had over the years that have stood out..perhaps it will
improve But most of the theaters around here have closed.. so the
experience of movie going is not what it was..the costs of heat and
air and a crew and all and cost to project are just
overwhelmingIMHO
>
>
> Original Message 
>From: channinglylethom...@att.net
>To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
>Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars - a slave to sentiment?
>Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 10:34:04 -0800
>
>>What's Alf?  On a more serious note, I felt the reaction to Kim
>Novak was painful and cruel and left me feeling down for a couple of
>days.  I didn't like the overall tone of the Awards this year.  I'd
>like to see a little more focus on film history and the people that
>made the industry great as well as a return to it being presented as
>an Academy and not a celebrity roast.  Channing Thomson
>>
>>On Mar 4, 2014, at 9:29 AM, Scott Burns  wrote:
>>
>>> There was a time when the Academy celebrated the magic of the
>movies, both past AND present. That’s clearly not the case these
>days. The only “salute” to Hollywood’s past was the Oz tribute—but
>they didn’t think enough of Garland’s offspring to even bring them up
>on stage. Couldn’t the last surviving Munchkin, Jerry Maren make an
>appearance? Nothing against Pink, but what relevance to Oz did she
>have? Major missed opportunity Academy!
>>>  
>>> It seemed to me that no one in the audience even recognized Kim
>Novak (please no plastic surgery jokes). No standing ovation for this
>star of the 50’s/60’s? There’s no excuse for anyone in the movie biz
>not having ever seen “Vertigo” or “Picnic.”
>>>  
>>> And no tribute to Shirley Temple? Come on. Even those members of
>“new Hollywood” must have watched a few Temple films when they were
>growing up. Of course my beef about classic stars goes beyond the
>Oscars. Entertainment Weekly puts Phillip Seymour Hoffman on the
>cover when he kills himself via a drug overdose, yet arguably the
>biggest star of the 1930’s gets no mention on the cover at all? She
>did get 2 pages inside, but I was surprised they gave her even that
>much space.
>>>  
>>> Even when I was in my 20’s and watching the Oscars, I always
>enjoyed seeing the classic stars who had dropped out of the
>limelight. I enjoyed the honorary Oscar presentation and even the
>Jean Hersholt award …now such honors have been moved off the Oscar
>telecast completely.
>>>  
>>> Not to diss the younger generation, but the world did exist before
>

Re: [MOPO] [Bulk] [MOPO] The Oscars - a slave to sentiment?

[Zeev Drach]

"You're damned if you do and damned if you don't"...

 

Zeev

 

 

 

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Subject: [Bulk] [MOPO] The Oscars - a slave to sentiment?

 

I know it's not really about posters, but I haven't read anything here about
the Oscars, so I wondered if any others share my puzzlement over exactly
what the criteria for 'best film' is?  Apart from the big one 12 Years A
Slave  won 2 other Oscars, while Gravity won 7 awards, including best
director. Surely that must be a win on points for Gravity? Ellen joked that
either 12 Years would win or else the Academy was racist, and I suspect that
the Afro-American dimension did, in fact, contribute to the end decision.
Racism does not necessarily have to express itself as hatred, but it is not
particularly edifying to see it expressed in a patronising way either. I was
saddened to see the great actor Sidney Poitier trundled out to receive what
was, given the occasion, something like a pat on the head for his career and
being the first black actor to win an Oscar for Best Actor, and am I being
in overly critical in the Academy then having Will Smith present the Best
Film award? There is no doubt that Hollywood, like the rest of the USA, can
have its conscience tugged when it comes to the treatment of the
Afro-American community. Birth of a Nation is hardly an advert for
multi-cultural harmony, and movies like the Marx Brothers A Day At The Races
have scenes which sit uncomfortably with present day attitudes. Maybe the
Academy felt some atonement was due for the failure of  The Color Purple to
win any awards? Anyway, as a non-American I may have a jaundiced view which
is not shared by others, but I am interested in finding out what the views
of MOPO subscribers are.

 

Tommy

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Re: [MOPO] [Bulk] [MOPO] The Oscars - a slave to sentiment?

[Kirby McDaniel]

Ain’t it tha truth?  AIN’T IT THE TRUTH?



On Mar 4, 2014, at 8:33 AM, Zeev Drach  wrote:

> “You’re damned if you do and damned if you don’t”…….
>  
> Zeev
>  
>  
>  
> From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Tommy Barr
> Sent: March 4, 2014 7:47 AM
> To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
> Subject: [Bulk] [MOPO] The Oscars - a slave to sentiment?
>  
> I know it’s not really about posters, but I haven’t read anything here about 
> the Oscars, so I wondered if any others share my puzzlement over exactly what 
> the criteria for ‘best film’ is?  Apart from the big one 12 Years A Slave  
> won 2 other Oscars, while Gravity won 7 awards, including best director. 
> Surely that must be a win on points for Gravity? Ellen joked that either 12 
> Years would win or else the Academy was racist, and I suspect that the 
> Afro-American dimension did, in fact, contribute to the end decision. Racism 
> does not necessarily have to express itself as hatred, but it is not 
> particularly edifying to see it expressed in a patronising way either. I was 
> saddened to see the great actor Sidney Poitier trundled out to receive what 
> was, given the occasion, something like a pat on the head for his career and 
> being the first black actor to win an Oscar for Best Actor, and am I being in 
> overly critical in the Academy then having Will Smith present the Best Film 
> award? There is no doubt that Hollywood, like the rest of the USA, can have 
> its conscience tugged when it comes to the treatment of the Afro-American 
> community. Birth of a Nation is hardly an advert for multi-cultural harmony, 
> and movies like the Marx Brothers A Day At The Races have scenes which sit 
> uncomfortably with present day attitudes. Maybe the Academy felt some 
> atonement was due for the failure of  The Color Purple to win any awards? 
> Anyway, as a non-American I may have a jaundiced view which is not shared by 
> others, but I am interested in finding out what the views of MOPO subscribers 
> are.
>  
> Tommy
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[MOPO] The Oscars -- the Review of the Show from The Hollywood Reporter

[channinglylethomson]

Tim Goodman's review which pretty much sums it up in IMHO.  Channing

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/review/franco-bombs-at-oscars-makes-162234

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[MOPO] The Oscars - No More Que Será Será - Give Doris Day an Oscar - NYTimes.com

[Kirby McDaniel]

I meant to post this some days ago.  I completely agree with Douglas McGrath 
and think
that the Academy should give this immediate and serious consideration.  
Underrated as an
actress.  But not as a singer.  Anyone who knows anything about popular music 
of the twentieth
century knows that Day was (is) one of the best singers around.

I hope you can read this.  You might have to log in to the New York Times 
website.

Kirby


http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/10/movies/awardsseason/10day.html
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Re: [MOPO] The Oscars - No More Que Será Será - Give Doris Day an Oscar - NYTimes.com

[Franc]

I totally agree. Unfortunately Doris Day got a bad rap when she began
making that dreadful television series but her film work was solid.  One
of my favorite recording is a jazz recording Doris Day cut with Andre
Previn and a small trio. She really could sing when she was given a
chance. FRANC 

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From: MoPo List [mailto:mop...@listserv.american.edu] On Behalf Of Kirby
McDaniel
Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2010 10:21 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: [MOPO] The Oscars - No More Que Será Será - Give Doris Day an
Oscar - NYTimes.com


I meant to post this some days ago.  I completely agree with Douglas
McGrath and think
that the Academy should give this immediate and serious consideration.
Underrated as an
actress.  But not as a singer.  Anyone who knows anything about popular
music of the twentieth
century knows that Day was (is) one of the best singers around.


I hope you can read this.  You might have to log in to the New York
Times website.


Kirby


http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/10/movies/awardsseason/10day.html 
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Re: [MOPO] The Oscars - No More Que Será Será - Give Doris Day an Oscar - NYTimes.com

[David Kusumoto]

** My understanding of the situation, based on a campaign I was involved in 
years ago to gauge whether there was enough support from the Academy's Board of 
Governors to present a Lifetime Achievement Oscar for actor Glenn Ford (there 
was not) -- is that Doris Day has always been at the top of the list.  I was 
told that one of the biggest obstacles is Miss Day's refusal to accept the 
honor in person or even via satellite (as was the case when the honor was 
bestowed to an ailing Myrna Loy).  She simply doesn't want it if it means 
emerging from her self-imposed seclusion.  You get a hint of this in efforts by 
various film societies to present similar honors to Miss Day during the 1980s, 
as detailed in David Kaufman's mammoth (500-page-plus) biography of Doris Day, 
published in 2008.  

 

** While the Academy Board will not publicly confirm or deny rumors of Day's 
repeated refusals, conventional wisdom is that her name is routinely brought up 
-- but the Board is not eager to give the Lifetime Achievement honor to a 
living person who refuses to claim it in person.  This brings to mind other 
still living actors who have been brought into the discussion -- but who are 
rumored to be distant runner-ups to Doris Day, the most notable being Maureen 
O'Hara, whose name is linked to several legendary films but who was arguably a 
far less versatile performer (and far more notoriously temperamental).  -d.

 



Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 11:01:05 -0500
From: fdav...@verizon.net
Subject: Re: The Oscars - No More Que Será Será - Give Doris Day an Oscar - 
NYTimes.com
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU


I totally agree. Unfortunately Doris Day got a bad rap when she began making 
that dreadful television series but her film work was solid.  One of my 
favorite recording is a jazz recording Doris Day cut with Andre Previn and a 
small trio. She really could sing when she was given a chance. FRANC 
 

-Original Message-
From: MoPo List [mailto:mop...@listserv.american.edu] On Behalf Of Kirby 
McDaniel
Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2010 10:21 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: [MOPO] The Oscars - No More Que Será Será - Give Doris Day an Oscar - 
NYTimes.com


I meant to post this some days ago.  I completely agree with Douglas McGrath 
and think that the Academy should give this immediate and serious 
consideration.  Underrated as an actress.  But not as a singer.  Anyone who 
knows anything about popular music of the twentieth century knows that Day was 
(is) one of the best singers around.


 

I hope you can read this.  You might have to log in to the New York Times 
website.


 

Kirby

 

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Re: [MOPO] The Oscars - No More Que Será Será - Give Doris Day an Oscar - NYTimes.com

[Franc]

Well, that explains that one. Thanks for the info. FRANC

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an Oscar - NYTimes.com


** My understanding of the situation, based on a campaign I was involved
in years ago to gauge whether there was enough support from the
Academy's Board of Governors to present a Lifetime Achievement Oscar for
actor Glenn Ford (there was not) -- is that Doris Day has always been at
the top of the list.  I was told that one of the biggest obstacles is
Miss Day's refusal to accept the honor in person or even via satellite
(as was the case when the honor was bestowed to an ailing Myrna Loy).
She simply doesn't want it if it means emerging from her self-imposed
seclusion.  You get a hint of this in efforts by various film societies
to present similar honors to Miss Day during the 1980s, as detailed in
David Kaufman's mammoth (500-page-plus) biography of Doris Day,
published in 2008.  
 
** While the Academy Board will not publicly confirm or deny rumors of
Day's repeated refusals, conventional wisdom is that her name is
routinely brought up -- but the Board is not eager to give the Lifetime
Achievement honor to a living person who refuses to claim it in person.
This brings to mind other still living actors who have been brought into
the discussion -- but who are rumored to be distant runner-ups to Doris
Day, the most notable being Maureen O'Hara, whose name is linked to
several legendary films but who was arguably a far less versatile
performer (and far more notoriously temperamental).  -d.
 

  _  

Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 11:01:05 -0500
From: fdav...@verizon.net
Subject: Re: The Oscars - No More Que Será Será - Give Doris Day an
Oscar - NYTimes.com
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU


I totally agree. Unfortunately Doris Day got a bad rap when she began
making that dreadful television series but her film work was solid.  One
of my favorite recording is a jazz recording Doris Day cut with Andre
Previn and a small trio. She really could sing when she was given a
chance. FRANC 
 


-Original Message-
From: MoPo List [mailto:mop...@listserv.american.edu] On Behalf Of Kirby
McDaniel
Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2010 10:21 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: [MOPO] The Oscars - No More Que Será Será - Give Doris Day an
Oscar - NYTimes.com



I meant to post this some days ago.  I completely agree with Douglas
McGrath and think that the Academy should give this immediate and
serious consideration.  Underrated as an actress.  But not as a singer.
Anyone who knows anything about popular music of the twentieth century
knows that Day was (is) one of the best singers around.

 
I hope you can read this.  You might have to log in to the New York
Times website.

 
Kirby
 


http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/10/movies/awardsseason/10day.html 

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