?

2000-05-01 Thread Gianmarco Giovannelli


Hi,
Is possible to defining for a bind key something like :
 ?

In other words how to define the combination of cursor up (or down, etc 
etc) and the shift key.

I experiment also , but id doesn't work :-)

Thanks again for attention 


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Re: how expunge deleted messages?

2000-05-01 Thread Satyadeep S. M.

Hi,

On Mon, May 01, 2000 at 03:04:11PM -0400, Hardy Merrill wrote:
> I haven't been able to find how to "expunge" deleted messages from
> mutt - the only way I've been able to do that is to delete the
> message(s) and then exit out of mutt, and then come back in.  Sorry
> for these basic questions - still learning.

Try pressing '$' after deleting the messages. :-)

regards
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Re: Abort unmodified message

2000-05-01 Thread Neelakanth

Sometime ago, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

> Help me. I recompiled mutt on a newly installed system and I keep getting
> "Abort unmodified message" whenever I try to do anything having to do 
> with composing a message..
> 

It is your editor. Mutt isnt able to execute your editor. try
using "set editor=vi" in you muttrc file.

my 2cents,
-neelakanth



Abort unmodified message

2000-05-01 Thread jgh

Help me. I recompiled mutt on a newly installed system and I keep getting
"Abort unmodified message" whenever I try to do anything having to do 
with composing a message..

System: Linux 2.2.12-20 [using ncurses 4.2]
Compile options:
-DOMAIN
-HOMESPOOL  +USE_SETGID  +USE_DOTLOCK  +USE_FCNTL  -USE_FLOCK
-USE_IMAP  -USE_GSS  -USE_SSL  -USE_POP  +HAVE_REGCOMP  -USE_GNU_REGEX
+HAVE_COLOR  +HAVE_PGP  -BUFFY_SIZE -EXACT_ADDRESS  +ENABLE_NLS
SENDMAIL="/usr/sbin/sendmail"
MAILPATH="/var/spool/mail"
SHAREDIR="/usr/local/share/mutt"
SYSCONFDIR="/usr/local/etc"
ISPELL="/usr/bin/ispell"
To contact the developers, please mail to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
To report a bug, please use the muttbug utility.


I've done this a billion times with the same config files and everthing
worked...thanks for help



##.mutt.keybind 1.29.00

# Load in Index KeyBindings

bind index  Precall-message # 'R'ecall-message move to 'P' [0.46]
bind index  Rlist-reply # 'L'ist-reply moved to 'R'
bind index   \t  next-unread
bind index  ,\t  previous-unread
bind index V   show-version
bind index zt current-top
bind index zz current-middle
bind index zb current-bottom
bind index  next-page
bind indexprevious-page
bind index \Cb  previous-page
bind index \Cf  next-page # \Cf was 'f'orget-passphrase
bind index next-page
bind index \Cx  sync-mailbox  # \Cx ->"sync-mailbox"
bind index +next-page
bind index -previous-page

# Load in Pager Keybindings

#set pager=less -aCMsei
set pager_context=1
set pager_index_lines=0   # number of lines to see from the index
set pager_stop
set noprompt_after
bind pager   \t  next-unread
bind pager  ,\t  previous-unread
bind pager V   show-version
bind pager \Cm next-line
bind pager \Ce next-line
bind pager \Cy previous-line
bind pager +   next-line
bind pager -   previous-line
bind pager ' ' next-page
bind pager \Cf next-page
bind pager \Cn next-page
bind pager -   previous-page
bind pager \Cb previous-page   # was "browse-url"
bind pager t   top
bind pager ^   top
bind pager $   bottom
bind pager /   search
bind pager n   next-undeleted
bind pager p   previous-undeleted
bind pager P   print-message
bind pager R   list-reply
bind pager ,b   bounce-message
bind pager ,f   forward-message
bind pager ,m   mail
bind pager ,L   list-reply
bind pager ,r   reply
bind pager ,j   next-undeleted
bind pager ,k   previous-undeleted
bind pager backspace   previous-line
bind pager bprevious-page
bind pager fnext-page
bind pager gtop
bind pager jnext-line
bind pager kprevious-line
bind pager mnoop
bind pager Lnoop
bind pager rnoop
bind pager !  enter-command

# Load Attach Key Bindings

bind attach ' ' select-entry
bind attach \Cg exit

# Load Compose Key Bindings

bind compose  v  view-attach

# Load Editor Key Bindings

bind editor  delete-char


This file contains any messages produced by compilers while
running configure, to aid debugging if configure makes a mistake.

configure:620: checking for a BSD compatible install
configure:673: checking whether build environment is sane
configure:730: checking whether make sets ${MAKE}
configure:776: checking for working aclocal
configure:789: checking for working autoconf
configure:802: checking for working automake
configure:815: checking for working autoheader
configure:828: checking for working makeinfo
configure:851: checking host system type
configure:873: checking for prefix
configure:884: checking for gcc
configure:997: checking whether the C compiler (gcc  ) works
configure:1013: gcc -o conftestconftest.c  1>&5
configure:1039: checking whether the C compiler (gcc  ) is a cross-compiler
configure:1044: checking whether we are using GNU C
configure:1053: gcc -E conftest.c
configure:1072: checking whether gcc accepts -g
configure:1104: checking how to run the C preprocessor
configure:1125: gcc -E  conftest.c >/dev/null 2>conftest.out
configure:1184: checking whether make sets ${MAKE}
configure:1222: checking for a BSD compatible install
configure:1275: checking for POSIXized ISC
configure:1298: checking for ranlib
configure:1335: checking for inline
configure:1349: gcc -c -g -O2  conftest.c 1>&5
configure:1375: checking for working const
configure:1429: gcc -c -g -O2  conftest.c 1>&5
configure:1453: checking for dbx
configure:1489: checking for gdb
configure:1525: checking for sdb
configure:1575: checking for sendmail
configure:1681: checking for ispell
configure:1908: checking for initscr in -lncurses
configure:1927: gcc -o conftest -g -O2   conftest.c -lncurses   1>&5
configure:1950: checking for ncurses.h
configure:1960: gcc -E  -I/usr/include/ncurses conftest.c >/dev/null 2>conftest.out
configure:2003: checking for start_color
configure:2031: gcc -o conftest -g -O2  -I/usr/include/ncurses  conftest.c   -lncurses 
1>&5
configure:2056: checking for typeahead
configure:2084: gcc -o conftest -g -O2  -I/usr/inclu

Abort unmodified message

2000-05-01 Thread jgh

Forget it, sorry. I had vim configured, when I am using vi.



Re: IMAP support

2000-05-01 Thread Brendan Cully

On Tuesday, 02 May 2000 at 07:54, Daniel C. Sobral wrote:
> Hi, there. I'd like to know how's MUTT's support nowadays. I checked the
> HTML manual at mutt.org, and that looked very depressing. I need _full_
> IMAP support, including search, doing move/copy/delete on the IMAP
> server, and, obviously, not pre-fetching all of a folder's e-mails.
> 
> So... how is it going?

the latest versions of mutt don't take advantage of server-side
search, so search will fetch your entire mailbox if you aren't
searching on one of the basic headers. Otherwise it should work
pretty well. You might want to hang back until 1.2 comes out, which
should be very shortly as it's really only waiting on IMAP fixes, the
most important of which should already be in CVS.

Possibly the manual could do with some updating.

-Brendan
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Re: Forcing a rescan of folder

2000-05-01 Thread Mikko Hänninen

David DeSimone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Mon, 01 May 2000:
> Anyway, Mutt is supposed to notice new mail without being told to look
> for it.

I have $mail_check set to 5 (and $timeout at 600, but I don't think
that matters).  I use Maildir over NFS.  I find myself frequently in a
situation where I see in my incoming mail log that I've gotten mail in
a particular folder while I'm reading it, but Mutt doesn't seem to
notice it.  It certainly takes much longer than the 5 seconds that the
$mail_check value would indicate, assuming I understood its meaning
correctly...  I wonder if this could possibly be some sort of NFS
caching issue or something?


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IMAP support

2000-05-01 Thread Daniel C. Sobral

Hi, there. I'd like to know how's MUTT's support nowadays. I checked the
HTML manual at mutt.org, and that looked very depressing. I need _full_
IMAP support, including search, doing move/copy/delete on the IMAP
server, and, obviously, not pre-fetching all of a folder's e-mails.

So... how is it going?

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Condotional move to mbox

2000-05-01 Thread Chris Armour

Hi, I'm looking for a way to perform a move from spoolfile to mbox
only on messages with no flags set on them, in the same way as
messages with the new or old flags set don't get moved.  Is this possible
at all?

Chris Armour



Re: Forcing a rescan of folder

2000-05-01 Thread David DeSimone

Benjamin Korvemaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Can I force mutt to rescan the current folder (I'm using maildirs)?  $
> only commits the changes, but doesn't pick up the new mail in the box,
> yet gbuffy lets me know there's more mail.

There isn't a function to cause a re-scan, because Mutt is simply
supposed to do it without being told.  There is a variable $timeout
which tells Mutt how often to do it while waiting for commands, and
there is another variable $mail_check which determines how often to do
it when you are entering commands.  They should have reasonable
defaults, though.

Anyway, Mutt is supposed to notice new mail without being told to look
for it.

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Re: mailboxes lists

2000-05-01 Thread Stefan Bender

Hello,

Gianmarco Giovannelli wrote on Mon, May 01 2000 19:31:28:
> On Mon, May 01, 2000 at 01:37:26PM +0200, Antonio Fragola wrote:
> > GG> mailboxes +/FreeBSD/newbies
> > is the '/' after '+' necessary? I always wrote:
> > mailboxes +FreeBSD/newbies
> 
> I presume it has to be here if you :
> 
> set folder="~/.mutt/mail"
> 
> if you :
> set folder="~/.mutt/mail/"
> 
> I think you can safely omit ...

I have in my .muttrc:

set folder=~/Maildirs
set spoolfile=+incoming
set postponed=+postponed

...and so on. Everything works fine without the slash.
I think mutt is smart enough to know that $folder really points to a
folder and thus inserting a slash by itself, if necessary.
And -- IIRC -- multiple slashes in path names don't matter, so it can
insert it anyway, even if there is already one. :-)

> -- 
> 
> Regards...
> 
> Gianmarco
> "Unix expert since yesterday"

almost ;-)

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: problems with mbox-hook

2000-05-01 Thread Jim Toth

On Mon, May 01, 2000 at 05:57:58AM -0400, Jim Toth ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said:
> 
> Your best bet for getting this to work might be something like
> 
> set mbox='|formail -s procmail .mutt-procmailrc'
> 
> where .mutt-procmailrc has recipes detailing where each message goes.
> I don't know if that works though, and I'm not about to test it right
> now.  I might later.

Nope, doesn't work.

Hmmph...

set mbox=~/mutt-save

$ mkfifo ~/mutt-save

$ formail -s procmail .mutt-procmailrc < mutt-save & mutt

That works.  Not particularly elegant, though.  And if you forget to
start up the formail before starting mutt, it hangs when you try to
leave.

Maybe I'll motivate myself and write a patch.

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Re: how expunge deleted messages?

2000-05-01 Thread Mikko Hänninen

Hardy Merrill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Mon, 01 May 2000:
> I haven't been able to find how to "expunge" deleted messages from
> mutt - the only way I've been able to do that is to delete the
> message(s) and then exit out of mutt, and then come back in.  Sorry
> for these basic questions - still learning.

Well, if you want to delete them immediately, you can use the
synchronize-folder function -- by default bound to $.  Alternatively,
when you change folder, the messages marked deleted will also be
deleted.

This all depends on the $delete setting.  If you set it to "no", I
don't think there's any way to really delete the messages. :-)


Hope this helps,
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Re: mailboxes lists

2000-05-01 Thread Gianmarco Giovannelli

On Mon, May 01, 2000 at 01:37:26PM +0200, Antonio Fragola wrote:
> GG> mailboxes +/FreeBSD/newbies
> is the '/' after '+' necessary? I always wrote:
> mailboxes +FreeBSD/newbies
> 

I presume it has to be here if you :

set folder="~/.mutt/mail"


if you :
set folder="~/.mutt/mail/"

I think you can safely omit ...

P.s.
Are you italian ?


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how expunge deleted messages?

2000-05-01 Thread Hardy Merrill

I haven't been able to find how to "expunge" deleted messages from
mutt - the only way I've been able to do that is to delete the
message(s) and then exit out of mutt, and then come back in.  Sorry
for these basic questions - still learning.

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how specify sender address?

2000-05-01 Thread Hardy Merrill

I'm getting an error when I try to reply to a list - the mail error
message says "Sender domain must exist" - so I think it's having
trouble with my domain.  Is there a way I can specify *my* address
that gets put on outgoing mail?

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http://www.missioncriticallinux.com



Forcing a rescan of folder

2000-05-01 Thread Benjamin Korvemaker

I've probably just overlooked it, although I've looked a few times (when
agravation exceeded laziness) and can't find it in the online help or user
manual.

Can I force mutt to rescan the current folder (I'm using maildirs)?  $ only
commits the changes, but doesn't pick up the new mail in the box, yet
gbuffy lets me know there's more mail. Changing folders to the current
folder works, but that commits/discards changes, and I don't necessarily
want something that drastic.

Thanks,
Ben
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Re: using Mutt with xbiff?

2000-05-01 Thread Hardy Merrill

Hall Stevenson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> > Looks like you should check into turning off autochecking.
> 
> ===
> mail_check
> Type: number
> Default: 5
> 
> This variable configures how often (in seconds) mutt should look for new
> mail.
> ===
> 
> What would "set mail_check=0" do ??

That seems to have done the trick - I've set "timeout" and "mail_check"
both to 0(zero), and the xbiff notification remains until I either start
mutt, or do some action in mutt.

Thanks.

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Re: using Mutt with xbiff?

2000-05-01 Thread Hall Stevenson

> Looks like you should check into turning off autochecking.

===
mail_check
Type: number
Default: 5

This variable configures how often (in seconds) mutt should look for new
mail.
===

What would "set mail_check=0" do ??




Re: using Mutt with xbiff?

2000-05-01 Thread Mikko Hänninen

Hardy Merrill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Mon, 01 May 2000:
> That's not what I'm seeing - my xbiff notification flag goes down as soon
> as mutt(not me) see's that there's new mail.  What you describe is what
> I want(I want the xbiff flag to stay up until *I* read the new mail), but
> I'm not sure what's wrong or different about my setup.  I have
> procmail set to send ALL my email to a file on my local machine - and I
> have "set spoolfile" set to that file.  Any idea what I may not have set
> up right?

Try using "set timeout=0" -- this will tell Mutt to not check for new
mail on its own, only when there's a keypress (or something like that,
anyway).

> What does "sticky" mean?

Sticky is an X window manager term, a sticky window will "stick to the
glass" will stay displayed even when virtual desktops and pages are
changed.  It will also not be overwritten by other windows.


Regards,
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Re: using Mutt with xbiff?

2000-05-01 Thread Hardy Merrill

Charles Curley [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> On Mon, May 01, 2000 at 10:31:10AM -0400, Hardy Merrill wrote:
> -> 
> -> Charles Curley [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> -> > On Fri, Apr 28, 2000 at 03:21:38PM -0400, Hardy Merrill wrote:
> -> > -> Is it possible to use Mutt with xbiff?
> -> > -> 
> -> > -> I'm a newbie to Mutt, and am trying to use Mutt with xbiff,
> -> > -> and what happens is, my xbiff notification happens when I
> -> > -> get a new message, but then as soon as Mutt recognizes that
> -> > -> there's a new message, it retrieves(?) it and my xbiff
> -> > -> notification goes off - making xbiff pretty useless.
> -> > -> 
> -> > -> Am I doing something wrong(or not doing something right)?
> -> > 
> -> > You are doing things right. Xbiff will notify you if you have mail at the
> -> > moment in a given file. I use procmail, so I have xbiff watch my input
> -> > file, not my spool file. However, if I have mutt running, mutt picks up
> -> > the new email. It will be marked with an N for new in the status
> -> > column. Just check your inbox with mutt from time to time.
> ->  
> ->  
> -> So there's no way to have mutt retrieve mail ONLY when I want
> -> it to?  Seems like if you have mutt running all the time, then
> -> xbiff really doesn't do you any good - do you only run mutt
> -> when you want to retrieve your new mail?  Or do you just have
> -> mutt running all the time, and just look at the "N" for new
> -> messages to let you know you have new mail?
> 
> Xbiff, set to watch your main input file ("xbiff -file ~/Mail/in &"), will
> ring its bell and put the flag up on incoming mail. Only after you have
> read the new mail does the flag goes down. At least, that's what I'm
> seeing here.

That's not what I'm seeing - my xbiff notification flag goes down as soon
as mutt(not me) see's that there's new mail.  What you describe is what
I want(I want the xbiff flag to stay up until *I* read the new mail), but
I'm not sure what's wrong or different about my setup.  I have
procmail set to send ALL my email to a file on my local machine - and I
have "set spoolfile" set to that file.  Any idea what I may not have set
up right?

> 
> So xbiff is useful: it beeps on new mail, and is more visible than mutt's
> "new mail" notice.
> 
> Also, xbiff watches the given file all the time, so that if you are
> looking at another mail file, xbiff still works.
> 
> And xbiff is a better candidate for "sticky" than a mutt xterm.

What does "sticky" mean?

> 
> If there is a way to turn off mutt's autochecking, I don't know of it. But
> check the manual for that. But you don't need to turn off
> autochecking. xbiff reports new mail even after mutt reads it in.
> 

Thanks for your help.

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Re: save-hooks

2000-05-01 Thread Mikko Hänninen

[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Mon, 01 May 
2000:
> while mbox-hooks can save read messages automatically
> for save-hooks to work you have to be MANUALLY saving a message
> (given a matching regexp or pattern, of course)
> 
> is that correct?

Yes, it is.  You need to be calling the save-message function for each
message.  (This normally is done with the s key, but it could also be
from a macro...)


Mikko
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Re: newbie - how create a new "file"

2000-05-01 Thread Hardy Merrill

Michael Tatge [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> On Mon, May 01, 2000 at 11:21:44AM -0400, Hardy Merrill wrote:
> > Michael Tatge [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > On Mon, May 01, 2000 at 09:51:00AM -0400, Hardy Merrill wrote:
> > > > how do I create a new "file" to save it in.  The more general
> > > > question is, how do I create a new file to save mutt messages in?
> > > 
> > > Why don't you try to (s)ave it?
> > 
> > Tried that, but unless you know about "N" to create a new file, "s"
> > doesn't do you much good - at least in my situation where I wanted
> > to "s"ave the message to a "new" file. :)
> 
> When typing "s" you can choose a new folder name.
> s
> Save to mailbox ('?' for list):
> =test
> Create /home/t/Mail/test? ([y]/n): 
> y

Thanks - that does work.  Previously I was going one step farther - I
was pressing "?" to see the list of mail folders(files) - it was on
that list that I was stuck not knowing how to create a new file.

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Re: using Mutt with xbiff?

2000-05-01 Thread Charles Curley

On Mon, May 01, 2000 at 08:51:29AM -0600, Charles Curley muttered:
-> On Mon, May 01, 2000 at 10:31:10AM -0400, Hardy Merrill wrote:
-> 
-> Xbiff, set to watch your main input file ("xbiff -file ~/Mail/in &"), will
-> ring its bell and put the flag up on incoming mail. Only after you have
-> read the new mail does the flag goes down. At least, that's what I'm
-> seeing here.

Oops, I reported that incorrectly. The flag goes up on new mail, mutt
collects it, tnen, on xbiff's next poll, the flag goes down.


-> 
-> So xbiff is useful: it beeps on new mail, and is more visible than mutt's
-> "new mail" notice.
-> 
-> Also, xbiff watches the given file all the time, so that if you are
-> looking at another mail file, xbiff still works.
-> 
-> And xbiff is a better candidate for "sticky" than a mutt xterm.
-> 
-> If there is a way to turn off mutt's autochecking, I don't know of it. But
-> check the manual for that. But you don't need to turn off
-> autochecking. xbiff reports new mail even after mutt reads it in.

Looks like you should check into turning off autochecking.

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save-hooks

2000-05-01 Thread indy

stupid question of the day:

while mbox-hooks can save read messages automatically
for save-hooks to work you have to be MANUALLY saving a message
(given a matching regexp or pattern, of course)

is that correct?

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Re: using Mutt with xbiff?

2000-05-01 Thread Charles Curley

On Mon, May 01, 2000 at 10:31:10AM -0400, Hardy Merrill wrote:
-> 
-> Charles Curley [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
-> > On Fri, Apr 28, 2000 at 03:21:38PM -0400, Hardy Merrill wrote:
-> > -> Is it possible to use Mutt with xbiff?
-> > -> 
-> > -> I'm a newbie to Mutt, and am trying to use Mutt with xbiff,
-> > -> and what happens is, my xbiff notification happens when I
-> > -> get a new message, but then as soon as Mutt recognizes that
-> > -> there's a new message, it retrieves(?) it and my xbiff
-> > -> notification goes off - making xbiff pretty useless.
-> > -> 
-> > -> Am I doing something wrong(or not doing something right)?
-> > 
-> > You are doing things right. Xbiff will notify you if you have mail at the
-> > moment in a given file. I use procmail, so I have xbiff watch my input
-> > file, not my spool file. However, if I have mutt running, mutt picks up
-> > the new email. It will be marked with an N for new in the status
-> > column. Just check your inbox with mutt from time to time.
->  
->  
-> So there's no way to have mutt retrieve mail ONLY when I want
-> it to?  Seems like if you have mutt running all the time, then
-> xbiff really doesn't do you any good - do you only run mutt
-> when you want to retrieve your new mail?  Or do you just have
-> mutt running all the time, and just look at the "N" for new
-> messages to let you know you have new mail?

Xbiff, set to watch your main input file ("xbiff -file ~/Mail/in &"), will
ring its bell and put the flag up on incoming mail. Only after you have
read the new mail does the flag goes down. At least, that's what I'm
seeing here.

So xbiff is useful: it beeps on new mail, and is more visible than mutt's
"new mail" notice.

Also, xbiff watches the given file all the time, so that if you are
looking at another mail file, xbiff still works.

And xbiff is a better candidate for "sticky" than a mutt xterm.

If there is a way to turn off mutt's autochecking, I don't know of it. But
check the manual for that. But you don't need to turn off
autochecking. xbiff reports new mail even after mutt reads it in.

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Re: newbie - how create a new "file"

2000-05-01 Thread Michael Tatge

On Mon, May 01, 2000 at 11:21:44AM -0400, Hardy Merrill wrote:
> Michael Tatge [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > On Mon, May 01, 2000 at 09:51:00AM -0400, Hardy Merrill wrote:
> > > how do I create a new "file" to save it in.  The more general
> > > question is, how do I create a new file to save mutt messages in?
> > 
> > Why don't you try to (s)ave it?
> 
> Tried that, but unless you know about "N" to create a new file, "s"
> doesn't do you much good - at least in my situation where I wanted
> to "s"ave the message to a "new" file. :)

When typing "s" you can choose a new folder name.
s
Save to mailbox ('?' for list):
=test
Create /home/t/Mail/test? ([y]/n): 
y


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Re: using Mutt with xbiff?

2000-05-01 Thread Jason Helfman


Mutt seems to me, to be only a mailreader. It doesn't download mail
unless you enable it to do this. I run fetchmail which downloads all my
mail and I run procmail to filter it for different groups. I also run
xbuffy or gbuffy. This reads the mailboxes and gives me the From:
Subject line of each mail for the boxes. So I only open up mutt when I
have new mail in the box, or mail I wish to look at.
|  
|  
| So there's no way to have mutt retrieve mail ONLY when I want
| it to?  Seems like if you have mutt running all the time, then
| xbiff really doesn't do you any good - do you only run mutt
| when you want to retrieve your new mail?  Or do you just have
| mutt running all the time, and just look at the "N" for new
| messages to let you know you have new mail?
| 
| Thanks.
| 
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Re: newbie - how create a new "file"

2000-05-01 Thread Hardy Merrill

Michael Tatge [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Mon, May 01, 2000 at 09:51:00AM -0400, Hardy Merrill wrote:
> > Newbie question about a simple function that I can't find anywhere
> > - when I'm reading a message that I want to save, how do I create
> > a new "file" to save it in.  The more general question is, how do
> > I create a new file to save mutt messages in?
> 
> Why don't you try to (s)ave it?

Tried that, but unless you know about "N" to create a new file, "s"
doesn't do you much good - at least in my situation where I wanted
to "s"ave the message to a "new" file. :)  I was just confused - I
didn't get that "N" should be used to create new files to store
messages - "N"s description "Select a new file in this directory"
threw me off - I was looking for something to "create" a new file.
"Select a new file" makes me think select a file from the list
of existing files - not create a new file.  Now I know - thanks to
Mikko for pointing out "N".

Hardy



Re: using Mutt with xbiff?

2000-05-01 Thread Hardy Merrill


Charles Curley [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 28, 2000 at 03:21:38PM -0400, Hardy Merrill wrote:
> -> Is it possible to use Mutt with xbiff?
> -> 
> -> I'm a newbie to Mutt, and am trying to use Mutt with xbiff,
> -> and what happens is, my xbiff notification happens when I
> -> get a new message, but then as soon as Mutt recognizes that
> -> there's a new message, it retrieves(?) it and my xbiff
> -> notification goes off - making xbiff pretty useless.
> -> 
> -> Am I doing something wrong(or not doing something right)?
> 
> You are doing things right. Xbiff will notify you if you have mail at the
> moment in a given file. I use procmail, so I have xbiff watch my input
> file, not my spool file. However, if I have mutt running, mutt picks up
> the new email. It will be marked with an N for new in the status
> column. Just check your inbox with mutt from time to time.
 
 
So there's no way to have mutt retrieve mail ONLY when I want
it to?  Seems like if you have mutt running all the time, then
xbiff really doesn't do you any good - do you only run mutt
when you want to retrieve your new mail?  Or do you just have
mutt running all the time, and just look at the "N" for new
messages to let you know you have new mail?

Thanks.

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Re: newbie - how create a new "file"

2000-05-01 Thread Michael Tatge

Hi,

On Mon, May 01, 2000 at 09:51:00AM -0400, Hardy Merrill wrote:
> Newbie question about a simple function that I can't find anywhere
> - when I'm reading a message that I want to save, how do I create
> a new "file" to save it in.  The more general question is, how do
> I create a new file to save mutt messages in?

Why don't you try to (s)ave it?


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Re: newbie - how create a new "file"

2000-05-01 Thread Mikko Hänninen

Hardy Merrill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Mon, 01 May 2000:
> Newbie question about a simple function that I can't find anywhere
> - when I'm reading a message that I want to save, how do I create
> a new "file" to save it in.  The more general question is, how do
> I create a new file to save mutt messages in?

Just pick a name for the folder -- if it doesn't exist, Mutt will create
a new mail folder with that name.  The format of the new mail folder
depends on the setting of $mbox_type.

If you're in the file/folder browser, you can create a new folder (and
select that) with the select-new function, bound by default to N.


Hope this helps,
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newbie - how create a new "file"

2000-05-01 Thread Hardy Merrill

Newbie question about a simple function that I can't find anywhere
- when I'm reading a message that I want to save, how do I create
a new "file" to save it in.  The more general question is, how do
I create a new file to save mutt messages in?

TIA, and sorry for the stupid question - just trying to get over
the initial learning curve.

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Re: mailboxes lists

2000-05-01 Thread Antonio Fragola

GG> mailboxes +/FreeBSD/newbies
is the '/' after '+' necessary? I always wrote:
mailboxes +FreeBSD/newbies





Re: mailboxes lists

2000-05-01 Thread David T-G

Gianmarco --

...and then Gianmarco Giovannelli said...
% Hi to everyone, I am a new mutt user trying to configure mutt 1.0.1i (on 
% FreeBSD).

Welcome!


% 
% I have succeded in configuring almost everything but there are a few things 
% I don't succeded in doing...
% So I have read the manual and the FAQ but I was not able to solve the 
% problems by myself...

Well, thanks for trying; we get lots of folks who don't!


% 
% I am subscribed to several mailing lists so I have made in my .muttrc 
...
% 
% Everything works like a charm, but I was not able to create an entry (or to 
% bind a key) so I can easily move from the index of one this mailboxes to 
% the lists of the mailboxes itself...
% I have defined :
% bindindex change-folder

What -- you unbound the manual key?? :-)


% 
% but it is not so much confortable because I have to press the ? everytime 
% to have the lists of them...
% 
% Is there a simple way so that I can do it ?
% I thought to a macro but I was not able to make it ... Is there a good soul 
% here that can point me how to realize a simple key binding so that pressing 
% it I arrive in the mailboxes list ?

I'd say that a macro is the way to go, too.  How about

  macro index c ""
  macro pager c ""

to reset the 'c' key to send the change-folder command (as it did) and
then hit tab for you?


% 
% And there is a way to configure the list of mailboxes so it can be 
% displayed in other way than a simple directory browser  (perhaps adding a 
% description and/or customizing the menu list) ?

Don't think so on this one, but I could be wrong.


% 
% Thanks for the attention...

HTH & HAND!


% 
% 
% 
% Best Regards,
% Gianmarco Giovannelli ,  "Unix expert since yesterday"

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mailboxes lists

2000-05-01 Thread Gianmarco Giovannelli

Hi to everyone, I am a new mutt user trying to configure mutt 1.0.1i (on 
FreeBSD).

I have succeded in configuring almost everything but there are a few things 
I don't succeded in doing...
So I have read the manual and the FAQ but I was not able to solve the 
problems by myself...

I am subscribed to several mailing lists so I have made in my .muttrc 
entries like these ones:

---> begin <---
mailboxes !

mailboxes +/Personali/kirk
mailboxes +/Personali/scotty

mailboxes +/FreeBSD/multimedia
mailboxes +/FreeBSD/newbies
mailboxes +/FreeBSD/chat
mailboxes +/FreeBSD/ports
mailboxes +/FreeBSD/questions
mailboxes +/FreeBSD/current
mailboxes +/FreeBSD/announce
mailboxes +/FreeBSD/stable
mailboxes +/FreeBSD/hackers
mailboxes +/FreeBSD/mobile
[... etc etc ...]
---> end <---

and I have configured procmail to filter with rules like this:

# FreeBSD mailing lists
:0:
* ^Delivered-To: 
freebsd-\/(multimedia|newbies|chat|ports|questions|current|announce|stable|hackers|mobile)@freebsd\.org
* MATCH ?? ^^\/[^@]+
FreeBSD/$MATCH


Everything works like a charm, but I was not able to create an entry (or to 
bind a key) so I can easily move from the index of one this mailboxes to 
the lists of the mailboxes itself...
I have defined :
bindindex   change-folder

but it is not so much confortable because I have to press the ? everytime 
to have the lists of them...

Is there a simple way so that I can do it ?
I thought to a macro but I was not able to make it ... Is there a good soul 
here that can point me how to realize a simple key binding so that pressing 
it I arrive in the mailboxes list ?

And there is a way to configure the list of mailboxes so it can be 
displayed in other way than a simple directory browser  (perhaps adding a 
description and/or customizing the menu list) ?

Thanks for the attention...



Best Regards,
Gianmarco Giovannelli ,  "Unix expert since yesterday"
http://www.giovannelli.it/~gmarco
http://www2.masternet.it






Re: problems with mbox-hook

2000-05-01 Thread Jim Toth

On Mon, May 01, 2000 at 12:31:07PM +0300, Mikko Hänninen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said:
> Antonio Fragola - MrShark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Mon, 01 May 2000:
> > set mbox=+inbox
> > mbox-hook '~h ^From.*palleria.*' +Friends/vito
> > mbox-hook '~h ^From.*colosimo.*' +Friends/franco
> > 
> >but read emails from palleria and colosimo continues to go in  inbox, 
> > instead of the other 2 mailboxes, Why?
> 
> Because mbox-hook doesn't take a full Mutt pattern, it only takes a
> regular expression which will be matched against the current folder
> name.  Ie. you can't save read messages automatically on per-message
> basis, only per-folder.

Right.  And save hook is for when you're saving individual messages,
not for moving read mail, so ignore my previous message.

Your best bet for getting this to work might be something like

set mbox='|formail -s procmail .mutt-procmailrc'

where .mutt-procmailrc has recipes detailing where each message goes.
I don't know if that works though, and I'm not about to test it right
now.  I might later.

> (This is according to the docs, I don't use the auto-move feature
> myself...)

This'll teach me to try to read the docs and reply about a feature I
don't use (mainly because it doesn't exist) before I'm awake.  :-)

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Re: problems with mbox-hook

2000-05-01 Thread Jim Toth

On Mon, May 01, 2000 at 11:24:06AM +0200, Antonio Fragola - MrShark
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said:
> Hi! I've problems with mbox-hook. I've this 3 lines in may .muttrc:
> 
> set mbox=+inbox
> mbox-hook '~h ^From.*palleria.*' +Friends/vito
> mbox-hook '~h ^From.*colosimo.*' +Friends/franco
> 
>but read emails from palleria and colosimo continues to go in  inbox, 
> instead of the other 2 mailboxes, Why?

I believe you want save-hook.  mbox-hook is used to specify the
default save filename from a particular mail folder.  So if you wanted
read mail from +fred to go to +barney, you'd specify

mbox-hook 'fred' '+barney'

So what you probably want is more like:

set mbox=+inbox
save-hook '~h ^From.*palleria' +Friends/vito
save-hook '~h ^From.*colosimo' +Friends/franco


(You can drop the .* at the end of the pattern.)

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Re: problems with mbox-hook

2000-05-01 Thread Mikko Hänninen

Antonio Fragola - MrShark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Mon, 01 May 2000:
> set mbox=+inbox
> mbox-hook '~h ^From.*palleria.*' +Friends/vito
> mbox-hook '~h ^From.*colosimo.*' +Friends/franco
> 
>but read emails from palleria and colosimo continues to go in  inbox, 
> instead of the other 2 mailboxes, Why?

Because mbox-hook doesn't take a full Mutt pattern, it only takes a
regular expression which will be matched against the current folder
name.  Ie. you can't save read messages automatically on per-message
basis, only per-folder.

(This is according to the docs, I don't use the auto-move feature
myself...)


Regards,
Mikko
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problems with mbox-hook

2000-05-01 Thread Antonio Fragola - MrShark

Hi! I've problems with mbox-hook. I've this 3 lines in may .muttrc:

set mbox=+inbox
mbox-hook '~h ^From.*palleria.*' +Friends/vito
mbox-hook '~h ^From.*colosimo.*' +Friends/franco

   but read emails from palleria and colosimo continues to go in  inbox, 
instead of the other 2 mailboxes, Why?

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