Re: [newbie] Questions
At 16:53 08/04/99 +0800, you wrote:
Bernardo Rodrigues wrote:
Hi there,
Hope you're all fine.
I've some general questions which I've not been able to find answers
as yet.
1. Can a normal ( ordinary ) user shutdown a Linux system ?
Yes you can. You'll need to change the permissions on the scripts that do the
shutdown. (either halt or shutdown in /sbin)
However! This is not a good idea. You don't want just any user to be able to
shutdown the machine!
Well, if you're the only user it might not be too bad, I guess.
Hear, hear.
2. What happens if for any reason the root user forget his/her
password or somebody tampers with the root password until he gets it
and changes it so that the real root cannot log into the system. ?
Then you're hosed :)
Not quite. You can boot into single user (" linux single") then do
"passwd" to set up a new password.
Well, this is true for any OS. AIX, Solaris, NT...
Aargh! Please don't say the N-word!
3. Does Linux take advantage of the advanced power management feature
to power down a system?
I don't think so. Not yet at least. I think they are working on it in the
kernel.
However, you can use APM now just not the ATX soft-powerdown thing you can
with
Win98.
APMd is targeted mainly at laptops, I believe.
The again I could be completely wrong.
nick@nexnix
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 5.2 Installation
Not really harder just different. Takes some thinking and reading. But much more stable once you get it running. Jeanette - Original Message - From: Carla Boltin-Romere [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 7:39 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake 5.2 Installation At 03:46 PM 4/7/99 -0700, you wrote: Haven't yet--almost scared to, but going to. Is it as big of a pain to install that the web says it is? philip Philip, Having never used Unix/Linux before in my life, I was able to get it running and on the internet in one day. So it can't be too big of a pain, it definitely took some experimenting and tweaking though. There are still a couple of things I'm trying to resolve but, every day I get something else running and working. I have to admit that I've been a stalwart Microsoft Windoze fan until I started using Linux. I'm rapidly being converted to one of those Penguin People grin. *** Carla Boltin-Romere [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://rainbowfamily.net ICQ Nites: 9778410 ICQ Days: 3748636 AIM ID: PenguinCBR ***
Re: [newbie] A faster wm, VIA motherboard......
i have the VIA MVP3 chipset and yes it can be a nightmare. you have to go the fic site and get the upgrades for the chipset. then it works like a charm. the mobo i have if the fic pa2013 if you have win95 you have to go to amd's site and get the patch for win95. it's not the mobo its the os g the url is http://www.fic.tw.com i think that's right denise On 7 Apr 99 at 21:07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also have another question; I'm planning to install Linux on another machine with the VIA MVP3 chipset. This particular chipset is a nightmare come true under Windoze98, every pci device conflicts... Does anyone know if it causes some problem under Linux?? thanks, Guillermo This chipset is a nightmare under windoze too? I just upgraded my mb to one with this chipset (the old one had an AMD 640) so I could use an AGP videocard. After the upgrade, I'm having lots of scsi problems. Maybe this is the root of my problems.
RE: [newbie] virus
Come on, doesn't anyone use Linux to read this mailing list?! Nope. I'm at work where everything is run on NT. I guess that means I should probally be "working" right now too :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 1999 12:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] virus On Wed, Apr 07, 1999 at 08:45:01PM -0500, Lloyd wrote: I just found an attached file in this mailing list (I've seen this file in newsgroups, too) called Happy99.exe. I'm pretty sure this is either a trojan horse or a virus. Open it at your own risk. If you just delete the message without opening it, you won't have any damage. And if you read it with a real operating system, you can laugh maniacally at the thought of all the Windows users who have just hosed their machine. Come on, doesn't anyone use Linux to read this mailing list?! -- Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] Rescue Disk problems
I tried to compile a new kernel the other day but it didnt boot (yeah, I know I should have used a floppy to check it out first). My problem is that I have created a rescue disk but it doesnt seem to work. I'm using Mandrake 5.3 (Festen) and when I type rescue after booting on the boot floppy it ends up with a message: Cant open initial console. Anyone any ideas on what to do ? I dont want to reinstall if at all possible. Thanks Shay
Re: [newbie] Rescue Disk problems
At 14:56 08/04/99 +0100, you wrote: I tried to compile a new kernel the other day but it didnt boot (yeah, I know I should have used a floppy to check it out first). My problem is that I have created a rescue disk but it doesnt seem to work. I'm using Mandrake 5.3 (Festen) and when I type rescue after booting on the boot floppy it ends up with a message: Cant open initial console. Anyone any ideas on what to do ? I dont want to reinstall if at all possible. Thanks Shay Can you make a new rescue disk from your Mandrake CD? If you have a dos machine handy you can use the rawrite utility on the CD to make a linux rescue disk. May the fish be with you nick@nexnix
Re: [newbie] Questions
2. What happens if for any reason the root user forget his/her
password or somebody tampers with the root password until he gets it
and changes it so that the real root cannot log into the system. ?
Then you're hosed :)
Not quite. You can boot into single user (" linux single") then do
"passwd" to set up a new password.
Really? You mean you don't have to supply the root password to get into single
user mode at all? Hmm...
So what's stopping any old cracker from booting any Linux box in single user
mode and doing the same thing?
Well, this is true for any OS. AIX, Solaris, NT...
Aargh! Please don't say the N-word!
Sorry! :P
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Re: more infoRe: [newbie] Xwoes and going grey :-)
when you move the mouse when you are at the command line, do you get now that it doesn't do. Ah...you mean even gpm cannot use it? (you did install gpm, yes?) a square cursor moving around the screen, you should. And to set up X you will need to edit the XF86Config file directly (it can be found in /etc/X11/) mouseconfig will not work. yeah i know, i've gotten so good that i have the full command memorize g. thanks. well let's get some coffee and off to get this done i'm almost tempted do a full reinstall and let it do it on it's own without me using the expert mode.vbg thanks denise Actually...this might be a good idea...it sounds like lots of things have been messed up from your tinkering...:) No, this is good! It's the best way to learn you way around Linux, seriously! But...only if you have the time. If you need to get work done right away, either use another machine or try not to mess about in conf files too much. Do you have a modem installed? I find that when weird stuff like this happens, you want to take everything out and install with the minimum of stuff. That way you can isolate problems easier...eliminate as many variables as possible. Try installing with only graphics card and mouse (and keyboard and monitor, of course) and see if it works. You can install the modem and soundcard later. Just a suggestion. -- -- Kuraiken - Apprentice Codecaster -- Discussions heartily welcomed; Flames generally ignored. --
Re: [newbie] Adding users
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i dont wanna botch up my linux *pets Tux* setup so how do i add a user i used to know how but my brain seem's to have dumped it, the guy who's brain gets rid of importent stuff, Tom2 I don't mean to be abrupt but, have you checked the documentation yet? ALL NEWBIES: Please check this page: http://www.linuxhq.com/guides/ There are lots and lots of stuff here - fun for all the family! :) Most of your anwsers will be found here. Tom, incidentally, the page you want is here: http://www.linuxhq.com/guides/SAG/x2031.html In fact, both SAG and NAG are on the Mandrake 5.3 CD. You need to install the rpm. Now, to answer your question, (please please promise me you'll read the docs, okay?) To add a user, type this on the command line: /usr/sbin/adduser (You'll need to be root, though) You'll get a list of options. eg. to add a normal user, /usr/sbin/adduser -p [password] [username] Without the square brackets. -- -- Kuraiken - Apprentice Codecaster -- Discussions heartily welcomed; Flames generally ignored. --
Re: [newbie] A faster wm, VIA motherboard......
d.r.stewart wrote: i have the VIA MVP3 chipset and yes it can be a nightmare. you have to go the fic site and get the upgrades for the chipset. then it works like a charm. the mobo i have if the fic pa2013 if you have win95 you have to go to amd's site and get the patch for win95. it's not the mobo its the os g the url is http://www.fic.tw.com i think that's right www.fic.com.tw (tw is the top domain for Taiwan) I'm using the PA2013 as well. Recently, I upgraded my BIOS to the latest one...and guess what? Both NT and Win98 died. Refused to boot. I got NT installed again but refused to go any higher than 16 colours (not 16 bit!) VGA. (I'm using a creative RivaTNT card which might be the problem, actually) BUT! Linux installed and boots with absolutely no complaints. XFree86's TNT server works like a charm - at 1280x1024 in 16bit. No problems. So yes...it's definitely the OS. MS produces only crapware. I mean come on! Linux can do it, the XFree86 can do it...how come paid Microserfs can't, hmm? Alright...you got me started...end of RR (rant rave) :) -- -- Kuraiken - Apprentice Codecaster -- Discussions heartily welcomed; Flames generally ignored. --
Re: [newbie] Web Browser
Robert Sheskin wrote: Is there a web browser that works with KDE. I have Nutscrape which crashes more than it runs. I tried to download Star Office and after 40Mb+ of the download was complete bang Nutscrape disappears. Not even IE5 in MS Windows is that buggy. It is bad to have such a stable os with no web support. -- Robert Sheskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 5788323 You might want to try something like Amaya. I don't know much about it, but it should support all the new standards (possibly not eveything, though) It was written by the World Wide Web consortium, so it SHOULD be up to standard :-) Check their site at http://www.w3c.org -- Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Re: [[newbie] RH Star Office and Mandrake]]
"Jonge, RCH de" wrote: Where can I download Star Office for Windows AND Linux ?? From: Michael Scottaline [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: maandag 5 april 1999 17:48 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: [Re: [[newbie] RH Star Office and Mandrake]] "Jeanette Russo" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How big is SO 5.0 and does it come in RPM form? Jeanette I believe the download file is about 70mb. Installed, however, it takes up about 110 mb of disk space. I'm not sure about an RPM version... Mike Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. All versions of StarOffice can be downloaded from http://www.stardivision.com -- Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Questions
On Thu, Apr 08, 1999 at 09:22:15AM +0200, Bernardo Rodrigues wrote: Hi there, Hope you're all fine. I've some general questions which I've not been able to find answers as yet. 1. Can a normal ( ordinary ) user shutdown a Linux system ? If they're at the console, yes. Just use Ctrl-Alt-Delete. If you want to give normal users the ability to remotely shutdown the system, you might look into the 'sudo' package. It allows you to specify certain commands that users are allowed to do as root. 2. What happens if for any reason the root user forget his/her password or somebody tampers with the root password until he gets it and changes it so that the real root cannot log into the system. ? The users run the asylum? :) If that happens, just shutdown the machine and reboot into single user mode. I don't think that asks for a password, but I could be wrong. If that doesn't help, pull the drive and put it in another machine and mount the root filesystem. Yank out the root password, move the drive back to the normal machine, boot and put a new password on the root account. 3. Does Linux take advantage of the advanced power management feature to power down a system? Sure, compile your system with APM support in the kernel configuration and install the apmd package (it's part of Mandrake). It works pretty well. -- Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Starting and stopping services.
Gene Tsygan wrote: Hi, everybody! According to materials I read, one of the great things about Linux is that it does not need to be rebooted in order to apply configuration changes. Stopping and restarting the affected services is adequate. Can you tell me how to do it? What should I type to stop and restart services like httpd, smbd, etc. One thing I tried which works sometimes is to log in again as root. Run the command ps ax. This gives a list of all running processes, each of which has a PID number (Process Id) When you decide what you want to stop, type kill pid number. Type the actual number with no quotes, like kill 247. Hope this helps. Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Re: [[newbie] RH Star Office and Mandrake]]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Apr 06, 1999 at 02:04:01PM +0200, Jonge, RCH de wrote: Where can I download Star Office for Windows AND Linux ?? I'm pretty sure that you could find the answer faster using one of the web's various search engines than waiting for an answer on this mailing list. Try it. How big is SO 5.0 and does it come in RPM form? Jeanette I believe the download file is about 70mb. Installed, however, it takes up about 110 mb of disk space. I'm not sure about an RPM version... -- Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can download all versions of StarOffice from http://www.stardivision.com -- Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] virus
On Thu, Apr 08, 1999 at 07:46:07AM +, Andre Baron wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Apr 07, 1999 at 08:45:01PM -0500, Lloyd wrote: I just found an attached file in this mailing list (I've seen this file in newsgroups, too) called Happy99.exe. I'm pretty sure this is either a trojan horse or a virus. Open it at your own risk. If you just delete the message without opening it, you won't have any damage. And if you read it with a real operating system, you can laugh maniacally at the thought of all the Windows users who have just hosed their machine. Come on, doesn't anyone use Linux to read this mailing list?! Sorry Steve, I used a Mac to retrieve that one It had no problems, just chewed up the virus and spit it back out... ;) That's only at work, I'm proud to say that I have no Microsoft products on this machine hehe.. Hmmm... only because I have some strange attraction to Macs will I consider that even remotely close! :) I want one of those G3 servers so bad I can taste it. And this WAS written from Netscape un Mandrake. I don't everyone who says netscape for linux crashes, the only time this has crashed on me is when I've run outta memory... I can't say that I've never had it crash, but in the instances that it did crash, it was always Java/Javascript that caused it. Once I turned both of those off, it's been rock-solid. Speaking of which, does anyone else have problems with 4.08 double-loading news articles occasionally? It's not so bad on text articles (since the reload time is relatively quick), but when I'm tryin' to look at the nekkid chickies it's a little annoying! :) -- Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Web Browser
Lloyd wrote: Robert Sheskin wrote: Is there a web browser that works with KDE. I have Nutscrape which crashes more than it runs. I tried to download Star Office and after 40Mb+ of the download was complete bang Nutscrape disappears. Not even IE5 in MS Windows is that buggy. It is bad to have such a stable os with no web support. You might want to try something like Amaya. I don't know much about it, but it should support all the new standards (possibly not eveything, though) It was written by the World Wide Web consortium, so it SHOULD be up to standard :-) Check their site at http://www.w3c.org He might want to try using an FTP client instead of a web browser to do file downloads. The tools are for two different tasks. Although my father (an electrician) always said that "you can fix anything with Linesman's pliers", I do think he understood that a Phillips head screwdriver was sometimes in order. Give NcFTP a try, it supports restarting a transfer so that you don't end up wasting 2 hours on a botched download. -- Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: more infoRe: [newbie] Xwoes and going grey :-)
now that it doesn't do. a square cursor moving around the screen, you should. And to set up X you will need to edit the XF86Config file directly (it can be found in /etc/X11/) mouseconfig will not work. yeah i know, i've gotten so good that i have the full command memorize g. thanks. well let's get some coffee and off to get this done yup I think I started typing vi /etc/X11/XF86Config in my sleep.. i'm almost tempted do a full reinstall and let it do it on it's own without me using the expert mode.vbg Been there., done that, didn't help. :( Andre
Re: Re: [newbie] virus
I have the same problemBoth with JAVA and the newsgroups. Chad Warren Begin Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:31:43 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] virus On Thu, Apr 08, 1999 at 07:46:07AM +, Andre Baron wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Apr 07, 1999 at 08:45:01PM -0500, Lloyd wrote: I just found an attached file in this mailing list (I've seen this file in newsgroups, too) called Happy99.exe. I'm pretty sure this is either a trojan horse or a virus. Open it at your own risk. If you just delete the message without opening it, you won't have any damage. And if you read it with a real operating system, you can laugh maniacally at the thought of all the Windows users who have just hosed their machine. Come on, doesn't anyone use Linux to read this mailing list?! Sorry Steve, I used a Mac to retrieve that one It had no problems, just chewed up the virus and spit it back out... ;) That's only at work, I'm proud to say that I have no Microsoft products on this machine hehe.. Hmmm... only because I have some strange attraction to Macs will I consider that even remotely close! :) I want one of those G3 servers so bad I can taste it. And this WAS written from Netscape un Mandrake. I don't everyone who says netscape for linux crashes, the only time this has crashed on me is when I've run outta memory... I can't say that I've never had it crash, but in the instances that it did crash, it was always Java/Javascript that caused it. Once I turned both of those off, it's been rock-solid. Speaking of which, does anyone else have problems with 4.08 double-loading news articles occasionally? It's not so bad on text articles (since the reload time is relatively quick), but when I'm tryin' to look at the nekkid chickies it's a little annoying! :) -- Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED] End Original Message Get your Free E-mail at http://deepspace6.zzn.com ___ Get your own Web-based E-mail Service at http://www.zzn.com
Re: Re: [newbie] Netscape in BW?
Im using a web based email service, and it formats email weird. I have tried loading x with 8,16,24,and 32. It does the same on all but 8. On 16-32 everything looks perfect except for the netscape icons. Its no biggie, just looks weird. --- On Wed, Apr 07, 1999 at 10:16:37PM -0500, Chad Warren wrote: First of all I would like to thank all of you who have posted lately, and answered the posts, Im NEW to linux and installed mandrake a few days ago. With help from some of the emails to this group I was prepared for all the problems. Got it all installed everything works. The only thing is, when I bring up Netscape in KDE, it is in BW, the pages are all fine(in color), but all of the icons in netscape are black. It only happens in Netscape any ideas? First of all, please limit your line length to something that might reasonably be expected to fit on a normal monitor. Netscape can do this by setting a checkbox in the Preferences settings. Something around 72 to 78 characters works well. As fo your question, it sounds like X is running out of colors and is unable to display the color icons. Try using 'startx -- -bpp 16' and see if it fixes the problem. -- Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED] End Original Message Chad Warren Webmaster - DeepSpace 6 ( http://cwarren.snider.net ) Get your Free E-mail at http://deepspace6.zzn.com ___ Get your own Web-based E-mail Service at http://www.zzn.com
Re: [newbie] Questions
Kuraiken wrote: So what's stopping any old cracker from booting any Linux box in single user mode and doing the same thing? Lack of physical access to the machine, I hope... -- Dan Brown, KE6MKS, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.
Re: [newbie] Xwoes and going grey :-)
On 8 Apr 99 at 0:10, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, from reading some of the other messages on the thread, it looks like you've done a fair amount of debugging on the problem, so let's see if we can nail it down. that's putting it mildly ;-) Your dmesg output reports that you have active serial ports on COM1 and COM2. Your mouse is on COM1, since you mention that it's reported as irq 4. So, the kernel sees the mouse. One thing to check would be /proc/interrupts to ensure that nothing else is grabbing that interrupt. If anything other than 'serial' is listed there, you've got a conflict that you'll need to sort out. here's the output of /proc/interrupts: 0: 1309076 timer 1: 3371keyboard 2: 0cascade 4:14 + serial 7: 0 plip1 8: 1 + rtc 13: 1 math error 14:36388 + ide0 15 12 + ide1 Is gpm running when you attempt to start X? You might try killing the gpm daemon and then attempting X. I know it _used_ to conflict, but I don't know whether that's true anymore. To kill it, just use '/etc/rc.d/init.d/gpm stop'. Then try 'startx' to bring up X. Any better luck? yes it was running. hmm, another set of lovely error msgs: execve failed for /etc/X11/X (errno 2) _X11TransSocketUNICConnect: Can't connect: Errno = 111 giving up xinit: connection refused ( ernno 111): unable to connect to X server xinit: no such process ( errno 3) server error rebuilt xf86config same msg restartd gmp same msg You might have the mouse configured incorrectly in /etc/X11/XF86Config. It should read something like this at the minimum: Section "Pointer" Protocol "Microsoft" Device "/dev/mouse" EndSection have that, even tried /dev/ttyS0 Ensure that /dev/mouse is pointing to the correct place by checking the links in the device directory: cd /dev rm -f mouse ln -s ttyS0 mouse did this Try X again. Any luck? haha, your such the comedian ;-) or is that me ? Drop a note back to the list with an update of what happened with these tests, one of them SHOULD fix it, but if not, it'll narrow down the problem. this is starting to get fun here ;-). good thing i'm stubborn and refuse to give up or is that becuz i've had enough of winbloat g. i think when i/we get this solved i'm going to write a faq. thanks denise
Re: more infoRe: [newbie] Xwoes and going grey :-)
On 8 Apr 99 at 10:26, Andre Baron wrote: yup I think I started typing vi /etc/X11/XF86Config in my sleep.. i'm about ready to alias that sucker so one or two keystrokes will do it . i'm almost tempted do a full reinstall and let it do it on it's own without me using the expert mode.vbg Been there., done that, didn't help. :( your real encouraging here ;-) i may get beat up but i refuse to be beaten. denise Andre
Re: more infoRe: [newbie] Xwoes and going grey :-)
On 9 Apr 99 at 0:12, Kuraiken wrote: when you move the mouse when you are at the command line, do you get now that it doesn't do. Ah...you mean even gpm cannot use it? (you did install gpm, yes?) yep installed it. i'm almost tempted do a full reinstall and let it do it on it's own without me using the expert mode.vbg Actually...this might be a good idea...it sounds like lots of things have been messed up from your tinkering...:) No, this is good! It's the best way to learn you way around Linux, seriously! But...only if let's see, this is the, oh shoot lost count after number 6 or was that number 10 g but seriously i've installed/reinstalled this quite a few times. i have the timing down to a fine science as to what i can do while it loads and when i have to be back to enter info. and believe me i've learned more in doing installs lately than i have over the last few years with working on webservers and readingg. you have the time. If you need to get work done right away, either use another machine or try not to mess about in conf files too much. got another machine(s), wanted this so that i can tinker and learn more. i would like to eliminate that stuff from redmond for everyday use. Do you have a modem installed? not really to lazy to swap it out as it maybe a winmodem which aint going to work ( sent someone else to get it for me and didn't tell them that i wanted one w/jumpers on it). I find that when weird stuff like this happens, you want to take everything out and install with the minimum of stuff. That way you can isolate problems easier...eliminate as many variables as possible. Try installing with only graphics card and mouse (and keyboard and monitor, of course) and see if it works. You can install the modem and soundcard later. sound card is compatible as it is a real soundblaster. all hardware is on the hardware list. did have to swap out the harddrive for this current one because i didn't want to use the overlay for the bios to see all 9.1 gigs.. Just a suggestion. thanks all suggestions welcomed. denise
Re: [newbie] Netscape and kmail client
Grr... another try! On Wed, 07 Apr 1999, Bob Tito wrote: On Wed, 07 Apr 1999, you wrote: I am about ready to give up, I can connect to my isp without a problem but cannot get Netscape to work or a mail client. Netscape returns errors such as no dns server for whatever address I try, and the mail client cannot find the server. I know I have my smtp and pop correct. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Don't give up yet... ;-) OK: You cant find the mailserver reasonsolution the wrong nameuse the correct one ping mail.whateveryouare.usingno reply? fix setup... What can be wong... if you ping a name, het nameserver translates this in an ip number. How ? with the contents of /etc/resolv.conf. (edit this by hand or with linuxconf) i'll include a part if the file with comments now.. i am [EMAIL PROTECTED], mailserver = mail.euronet.nl - domain euronet.nl # this is where i am search euronet.nl # if i do a namerquest, look here (for starters ?) nameserver 194.134.5.5 #primary nameserver for euronet nameserver 194.134.0.97 # secondary nameserver for euronet. Ok... probably a lot of incorrect statements here, but just a try to help out, not a tcpip expert ;-)) if you do a nslookup (nameserverlookup!) you should get something like: [root@NogNix /root]# nslookup mail.euronet.nl Server: localhost Address: 127.0.0.1 Non-authoritative answer: Name:mail.euronet.nl Address: 194.134.0.10 [root@NogNix /root]# This means my nameserver config is working (pff. glad it is, by i MUST state, i am using a local nameserver overhere, your output can/probably will look different ! So, you should have the correct nameservers for your provider and *BE SURE* you dont mess up upper/lowercase... Unix IS case sensetive !! Let me know if this was of any help. feel free to mail me directly but can't make any guaranties for success/responce time because of the timedifference and serious illness in the family. suc6, Bob ps only give up the battle when you can't stand anymore ;-)) -- Jerry Dean 5919 E.Pima St. Tucson, AZ 85712 520-296-7176 -- Linux Mandrake release 5.3 (Festen) kernel 2.2.5 Online as bob on my i686 which was to ^#!^% Expensive ;-) , 10:00pm up 7 min, 0 users, load average: 0.01, 0.10, 0.07 And doing NOTHING as You can see! -- Linux Mandrake release 5.3 (Festen) kernel 2.2.5 Online as bob on my i686 which was to ^#!^% Expensive ;-) , 9:40pm up 3:12, 0 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 And doing NOTHING as You can see!
Re: more infoRe: [newbie] Xwoes and going grey :-)
Ah...you mean even gpm cannot use it? (you did install gpm, yes?) yep installed it. And? Even before you startx, move your mouse around...do you get a square "pointer" moving about the screen? let's see, this is the, oh shoot lost count after number 6 or was that number 10 g but seriously i've installed/reinstalled this quite a few times. i have the timing down to a fine science as to what i can do while it loads and when i have to be back to enter info. Wow...this is seriously bad. I've never had to do this! (and I thought _I_ had problems ;-P) got another machine(s), wanted this so that i can tinker and learn more. i would like to eliminate that stuff from redmond for everyday use. I understand how you feel. I've done it. It's feels great! But...let's get back to getting you there. Do you have a modem installed? not really to lazy to swap it out as it maybe a winmodem which aint going to work ( sent someone else to get it for me and didn't tell them that i wanted one w/jumpers on it). Take it out anyway. sound card is compatible as it is a real soundblaster. all hardware is on the hardware list. did have to swap out the harddrive for this current one because i didn't want to use the overlay for the bios to see all 9.1 gigs.. Ah...it's not the compatibility of those things that I am questioning. I'm sure they will work. I'm trying to eliminate conflicts. Or at least potentials. I've done God-only knows how many troubleshooting and hair-pulling to know that...usually, it's the stupidest thing that drives you up the wall. Keep it simple. I'm not about to say that your mouse hates Linux but...have you tried installing the thing or even running the thing with a different mouse? I'm sorry that this is at your expense but this is an interesting problem. I'm sure many more on the list would also like to find out what the heck is going on - and avoid it...oh well. Hang in there. -- -- Kuraiken - Apprentice Codecaster --
[newbie] Re: A virus for Linux
An example of a Linux virus would be Linux.Bliss More information can be found at the following website: http://www.avp.ch/avpve/newexe/unix/bliss.stm -Rich Lionel Siau wrote: Hi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Apr 07, 1999 at 08:45:01PM -0500, Lloyd wrote: I just found an attached file in this mailing list (I've seen this file in newsgroups, too) called Happy99.exe. I'm pretty sure this is either a trojan horse or a virus. Open it at your own risk. If you just delete the message without opening it, you won't have any damage. And if you read it with a real operating system, you can laugh maniacally at the thought of all the Windows users who have just hosed their machine. Come on, doesn't anyone use Linux to read this mailing list?! -- Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED] I sure was laughing...I've been on Linux full time since I wiped NT's stink off my HD plates :) What a stupid joke, that virus is..."Practice safe computing, use Linux!" Erm..it is just as easy to write a virus on Linux thought the damage would be far more limited if u don't log in as root. I wonder why there hasn't been a Linux virus...yet? Could it be that all virus writers are anti-MS?
Re: [newbie] Netscape and kmail client
yes he posted one but late at night i got frustrated so i just removed eth0 mod and reinstalled it now it works even Kppp works
[newbie] first post..
Ok, Just so everyone knows, I have tried sending this message about 400 times, so IF it goes through please answer it! =) 1st) Has anyone ever tried the emulator off of www.vmware.com? I guess it lets you run any other OS from INSIDE linux.. If you have let me know, because I am interested.. 2) I have a Adaptec 1520b SCSI (with SCSI bios turned off) in my system. When I install Mandrake 5.3 it askes me if I have any SCSI adapters, which I answer yes, pick Adaptec 152X, then autoprobe. It does not find it. So my question is, WHY? Or what am I doing wrong? The only thing on that SCSI card is my CDR, which I dont really need in linux, but if I want to replace windows, I want everything to work. =) (btw, windows finds the card easily) =( thanks -- Bill Swearingen Kansas State University -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= "Microsoft announced today that, due to technical difficulties, the launch of Windows 2000 will be delayed until the first quarter of 1901." -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Re: [newbie] Netscape and kmail client
Hello again: I followed your instructions below and same problem, so I rebooted windows went to my isp website and printed out configuration info, obtained the correct dns settings, rebooted linux, and setup up kppp correctly and I have the same problem. I get the following error when pinging an address: "unknown host". The mail client also returns error msg, cannot find server. Anymore ideas? Thanks Jerry Dean Hmm...this should be fine. Are there any Destination address 0.0.0.0? This is the last entry, I presume? Okay, try connecting to the internet again. In the kppp dialog (after you get connected) click on show details. You should see a thing with a graph at the bottom. Above it are 2 ip addresses. The top one is the ip address assigned to you by your ISP. (you did choose dynamically assigned IP, yes?) and the one below it is the dial-up server you're connected to. Ping that server. You should get packets back. Hit Ctrl-C to stop the flow. Now ping say...www.news.com or www.linux.org or something. If you get errors like cannot find server or some such thing, your DNS server list is not configured properly. Try this first and see what you get. -- -- Kuraiken - Apprentice Codecaster -- Discussions heartily welcomed; Flames generally ignored. -- -- Jerry Dean 5919 E.Pima St. Tucson, AZ 85712 520-296-7176
Re: more infoRe: [newbie] Xwoes and going grey :-)
On 9 Apr 99 at 4:08, Kuraiken wrote: Ah...you mean even gpm cannot use it? (you did install gpm, yes?) yep installed it. And? Even before you startx, move your mouse around...do you get a square "pointer" moving about the screen? don't make me laugh, i'm supposed to be mad/upset right now g. seriously though. no i never ever did get one. i thought i would only see a mouse with X. alright stop laughing. let's see, this is the, oh shoot lost count after number 6 or was that number 10 g but seriously i've installed/reinstalled this quite a few times. i have the timing down to a fine science as to what i can do while it loads and when i have to be back to enter info. Wow...this is seriously bad. I've never had to do this! (and I thought _I_ had problems ;-P) let's see installed RH5.0 a couple of times,skipped RH5.1 altogether, RH5.2 oh, lost count on that one, come to find out that i wouldn't be able to run X as my card needed a new tarball,since it's not connected to the net yet, i ordered mandrake, becuz of it's features and the thought that i would be able to use my video card. since i hadn't figured out how to mount my LS120 so tht i could sneakernet newer files, it was easier to order it, then that way i would just have the cd and wouldn't have to make images. got another machine(s), wanted this so that i can tinker and learn more. i would like to eliminate that stuff from redmond for everyday use. I understand how you feel. I've done it. It's feels great! plus it justified the cost for building a new machine ;-). But...let's get back to getting you there. i've decided i may just reinstall but have a question on that: if i let it just do it's thing without being in expert mode what should i choose? workstation or Server? to be honest i don't like the fact that i don't have any control over installation. ( hate it with that ms stuff) not really to lazy to swap it out as it maybe a winmodem which aint going to work ( sent someone else to get it for me and didn't tell them that i wanted one w/jumpers on it). Take it out anyway. done sound card is compatible as it is a real soundblaster. all hardware is on the hardware list. did have to swap out the harddrive for this current one because i didn't want to use the overlay for the bios to see all 9.1 gigs.. Ah...it's not the compatibility of those things that I am questioning. I'm sure they will work. I'm trying to eliminate conflicts. Or at least potentials. I've done God-only knows how many troubleshooting and hair-pulling to know that...usually, it's the been there done that myself. stupidest thing that drives you up the wall. Keep it simple. I'm not about to say that your mouse hates Linux but...have you tried installing the thing or even running the thing with a different mouse? well the only other mice in the house are: ms instupidmouse w/wheel - ps/2 intellimouse w/o wheel - serial ibm - ps/2 now on windoze side of things it didn't like the ms instupidmouse on either w95 or w98 i've had more problems with ps/2 type mice then i'd care to count. but what the heck it may act like it has some sense under linux. I'm sorry that this is at your expense but this is an interesting no need to apologise i personally find it quite interesting and as you can tell i'm pretty good at troubleshooting on my own and know when to ask for help g problem. I'm sure many more on the list would also like to find out what the heck is going on - and avoid it...oh well. Hang in there. them i would like to find out myself ;-). i just loving tinkering and turning greyer while playing vbg denise
Re: [newbie] Re: A virus for Linux
Rich Christie wrote: An example of a Linux virus would be Linux.Bliss More information can be found at the following website: http://www.avp.ch/avpve/newexe/unix/bliss.stm -Rich Can we please stop the virus thread? It's not really useful for most of us. Thanks. -- -- Kuraiken - Apprentice Codecaster -- Discussions heartily welcomed; Flames generally ignored. --
[newbie] Central user accounts?
Hello all, This might be just a wee bit heavy for the newbie list but... A friend of mine (a lecturer in a local college) needs some help setting up a computer lab. I somehow, managed to convince him that he really does not want to us M$ crapware - after a couple of hours staring slack jawed at my desktop (what with GIMP, Moonlight Creator, Netscape, FTP, HTTP - to my local server) all going on at once in several virtual desktops...well :P)... Anyway, I convinced him that FS/OSS is the way to go. Saves his college oodles of money and frees them from the M$ tax (tax evasion?), protects their investments from obsolescence etc.etc...(not to mention earning him some honour points amongst his peers) So, I've agreed to help him out. Now, my question is, what are the different options open to me here? I've checked out NAG's NIS section but it does not look complete. In many places they say type:...and nothing after the semi-colon. It seems it's very much incomplete still. And it's very confusing about what exactly needs to be done. So, here I am. I need to implement this: Centralized user authentication and resource utilization. The last bit is perhaps not to difficult (I think it's just nfs/samba but do correct me if I'm wrong) How many ways are there and what are the pros and cons of each? And most importantly, where do I go for more info and help? Thanks in advance and looking forward to your suggestions. Regards, -- -- Kuraiken - Apprentice Codecaster -- Discussions heartily welcomed; Flames generally ignored. --
Re: more infoRe: [newbie] Xwoes and going grey :-)
Denise, FWIW, I have a MS instupidmouse w/wheel, PS2 on my new linux box and haven't had a lick of trouble with it. I like it - wheel works backwards, but it works. At 05:35 PM 4/8/99 -0400, you wrote: On 9 Apr 99 at 4:08, Kuraiken wrote: Ah...you mean even gpm cannot use it? (you did install gpm, yes?) yep installed it. And? Even before you startx, move your mouse around...do you get a square "pointer" moving about the screen? don't make me laugh, i'm supposed to be mad/upset right now g. seriously though. no i never ever did get one. i thought i would only see a mouse with X. alright stop laughing. let's see, this is the, oh shoot lost count after number 6 or was that number 10 g but seriously i've installed/reinstalled this quite a few times. i have the timing down to a fine science as to what i can do while it loads and when i have to be back to enter info. Wow...this is seriously bad. I've never had to do this! (and I thought _I_ had problems ;-P) let's see installed RH5.0 a couple of times,skipped RH5.1 altogether, RH5.2 oh, lost count on that one, come to find out that i wouldn't be able to run X as my card needed a new tarball,since it's not connected to the net yet, i ordered mandrake, becuz of it's features and the thought that i would be able to use my video card. since i hadn't figured out how to mount my LS120 so tht i could sneakernet newer files, it was easier to order it, then that way i would just have the cd and wouldn't have to make images. got another machine(s), wanted this so that i can tinker and learn more. i would like to eliminate that stuff from redmond for everyday use. I understand how you feel. I've done it. It's feels great! plus it justified the cost for building a new machine ;-). But...let's get back to getting you there. i've decided i may just reinstall but have a question on that: if i let it just do it's thing without being in expert mode what should i choose? workstation or Server? to be honest i don't like the fact that i don't have any control over installation. ( hate it with that ms stuff) not really to lazy to swap it out as it maybe a winmodem which aint going to work ( sent someone else to get it for me and didn't tell them that i wanted one w/jumpers on it). Take it out anyway. done sound card is compatible as it is a real soundblaster. all hardware is on the hardware list. did have to swap out the harddrive for this current one because i didn't want to use the overlay for the bios to see all 9.1 gigs.. Ah...it's not the compatibility of those things that I am questioning. I'm sure they will work. I'm trying to eliminate conflicts. Or at least potentials. I've done God-only knows how many troubleshooting and hair-pulling to know that...usually, it's the been there done that myself. stupidest thing that drives you up the wall. Keep it simple. I'm not about to say that your mouse hates Linux but...have you tried installing the thing or even running the thing with a different mouse? well the only other mice in the house are: ms instupidmouse w/wheel - ps/2 intellimouse w/o wheel - serial ibm - ps/2 now on windoze side of things it didn't like the ms instupidmouse on either w95 or w98 i've had more problems with ps/2 type mice then i'd care to count. but what the heck it may act like it has some sense under linux. I'm sorry that this is at your expense but this is an interesting no need to apologise i personally find it quite interesting and as you can tell i'm pretty good at troubleshooting on my own and know when to ask for help g problem. I'm sure many more on the list would also like to find out what the heck is going on - and avoid it...oh well. Hang in there. them i would like to find out myself ;-). i just loving tinkering and turning greyer while playing vbg denise PenguinCBR [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://rainbowfamily.net ICQ #: 9778410 AIM ID: PenguinCBR
[newbie] booting error
After compiling 2.2.2 and running /sbin/lilo and booting there is an error messages looks like this : unable to mount root fs at and that makes my computer hang, what could possibly wrong on my linux ??? this is my hd configuration : /dev/sda1 ext2/ /dev/sdb1 ext2/data /dev/sdb5 swap
[newbie] TinTin++
im a mud freak and i was wondering, has anyone got it to work and if they did can you tell me how you did it please? i know this isnt exactly a Mandrake related question but if anyone chould help i whould be gratfull if i got that done then i chould throw out windoze cept for my sister *Mutters*, also does Linux-Mandrake come with a dos emulater so i can run dos AOL to check my e-mail
Re: [newbie] TinTin++
where did you get dos AOL .. you can run wine if you like .. it's a win 3.1 emulator -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, April 08, 1999 7:02 PM Subject: [newbie] TinTin++ im a mud freak and i was wondering, has anyone got it to work and if they did can you tell me how you did it please? i know this isnt exactly a Mandrake related question but if anyone chould help i whould be gratfull if i got that done then i chould throw out windoze cept for my sister *Mutters*, also does Linux-Mandrake come with a dos emulater so i can run dos AOL to check my e-mail
Re: more infoRe: [newbie] Xwoes and going grey :-)
On 8 Apr 99 at 17:14, Carla Boltin-Romere wrote: Denise, FWIW, I have a MS instupidmouse w/wheel, PS2 on my new linux box and haven't had a lick of trouble with it. I like it - wheel works backwards, but it works. thanks for the encouragement. actually made me laugh,cuz i forgot i called it that. getty a little giddy here. i'll give it a try with my luck it may be the only way the instupidmouse will work. denise
Re: [newbie] TinTin++
im a mud freak and i was wondering, has anyone got it to work and if they did can you tell me how you did it please? i know this isnt exactly a Mandrake related question but if anyone chould help i whould be gratfull if i got that done then i chould throw out windoze cept for my sister *Mutters*, also does Linux-Mandrake come with a dos emulater so i can run dos AOL to check my e-mail dosemu, but don't ask me how to run it..
Re: [newbie] S3 Server trouble with Diamond Stealth 64 VLB
XFree86 version: XFree86-3.3.3.1 OS: Mandrake (of course!) 5.3 (Festen) installation CD made from ISO image Problem: Well, I spent 3 whole days trying to figure this one out. Every time I tried to start the X server by typing 'startx', my system would hang. I can't get any error logs because the only way out is to reboot, and since the disks haven't synced, no error logs. It seems to go thru the same output that 'X -probeonly' give me and then hang. I can't say for certain since it goes by so fast, and the error logs don't work (see above). There is no Xerror file in /var/log either. [...] All 3 different X configuration tools: xf86config, Xconfigurator, and XF86Setup. The XF86Setup works okay, so I guess it can run the VGA16 server, but not the S3 server which is written specifically for my chipset (what gives?). The closest I've ever got was going into KDE, it telling me to create /root/Desktop, and then hanging. This was AFTER I tried XF86Setup, it giving me a "errno = 111", and I went ahead typed 'startx' anyway. Strange to say the least since it shouldn't work. I really need this system for school. Any all help is appreciated. I don't think I can find any other good VLB cards out on the market now, so it looks like I'm stuck with it. Thanks again. SuperProbe output: SuperProbe Version 2.18 (22 December 1998) (c) Copyright 1993,1994 by David Wexelblat [EMAIL PROTECTED] (c) Copyright 1994-1998 by The XFree86 Project, Inc [...] Bug reports are welcome, and should be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] First video: Super-VGA Chipset: S3 Vision868 (Port Probed) Memory: 2048 Kbytes RAMDAC: S3 86C716 SDAC 15/16/24-bit DAC w/pixel-mux w/clock-PLL (with 6-bit wide lookup tables (or in 6-bit mode)) 'X -probeonly' output: [...] I remember (seems very long ago) that under OS/2, several S3 chipsets that were supposed to be the same actually weren't. This meat that there had to be several different S3 drivers, even though they all appeared to be the same. Not all drivers worked with all versions of S3 chipsets. Perhaps that is your problem. Arrrgh.. any way to distinguish between chipsets? I had my box open to I checked all the numbers of the chips, and they match. I've been trying to use the XF86_SVGA server instead and it's still hanging. I'll be posting my output a little later for more detailed debugging. FL
Re: [newbie] Web Browser
Steve Philp wrote: Lloyd wrote: Robert Sheskin wrote: Is there a web browser that works with KDE. I have Nutscrape which crashes more than it runs. I tried to download Star Office and after 40Mb+ of the download was complete bang Nutscrape disappears. Not even IE5 in MS Windows is that buggy. It is bad to have such a stable os with no web support. You might want to try something like Amaya. I don't know much about it, but it should support all the new standards (possibly not eveything, though) It was written by the World Wide Web consortium, so it SHOULD be up to standard :-) Check their site at http://www.w3c.org He might want to try using an FTP client instead of a web browser to do file downloads. The tools are for two different tasks. Although my father (an electrician) always said that "you can fix anything with Linesman's pliers", I do think he understood that a Phillips head screwdriver was sometimes in order. Well, half the battle is having the right tool for the job...:-) Give NcFTP a try, it supports restarting a transfer so that you don't end up wasting 2 hours on a botched download. Well, I've rarely had problems using Netscape to transfer files, but I have had it happen. I think Mandrake comes with NcFTP (not sure, though) -- Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Starting and stopping services.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Apr 07, 1999 at 01:15:45PM -0400, Gene Tsygan wrote: Thanks for the help. Since this is a "newbie" list I will allow myself another stupid question. Why should I use " ./ " before the file name? (Also thanks to Nick Kay for the answering my question) Gene You need to use the './' in front of the names of the files because /etc/rc.d/init.d is not part of your PATH. (echo $PATH to see what it IS set to). You'll find the dot-slash comes in handy. The other time you'll want to use it is if you want to execute a file in the directory you're currently in rather than a file of the same name that is in the PATH. For example, say you're installing a new version of Netscape and you want to make sure it works before deleting the old one. You simply 'cd' to the new directory, do ./netscape, and it'll run that copy. If you just typed 'netscape', it would probably run the old copy in /usr/bin or /usr/X11R6/bin. Hope that explanation helps! It does! I've been wondering about that myself. What does rc.d and init.d mean -- Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
