[newbie] KDE toolbar icons
Hi, I have just installed Mandrake 6.1. Everything is working just fine, except some kde programs. The problem is about toolbar icons (in most windows). It looks like icons files were corrupted and instead of icons I can see some rectangual random bitmaps. Has anyone noticed similar problem ? Michal p.s. I tried to install Mandrake on two diffrent machines (video), so it propably isn't hardware problem.
Re: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)
Sam Gentile wrote: I'm only defending against the stupid lies here and in the Linux community. If you made an argument that Linux is better because that's OK. If you start spreading lies like NT crashes left and right, I know it not to be true. We are running a billion dollar business on it. Sam Gentile snip Sam, I enjoyed the graphic, and I have to agree with you the Win2000 is a several orders of magnitude improvement over previous MS systems. I have been using Beta 2 release since it came out and have found it to be quite stable. It was easy to load, never read any documentation but the readme on the CD, and managed to get it up and running on the internet in about 90 minutes. I was impressed, and wish that linux was as easy to install and configure. The major reason I run Win2K now is I have been unable to use linux as a gateway to my cablemodem setup. (the other reason is I need to be familiar with it so I can work with my IT clients). After uncountable tries, and many thousands of pages of reading, I have been unable to get mandrake to recognize more that one ethernet card on my server. So, until I find the magic key I'm stuck with Windows at least for that particular function. I think one of the major problems with linux is that so many supporters are unable to accept that MS products have a place in the greater scheme of computing. I dislike MS as much as the next person, but I think that linux is done a great disservice by rabid aficionados who are vehement in their criticism, and make blanket statements that are not universally true. Yes Win anything will crash, but so will any other system. Yes its buggy, and yes it is virtually impossible to make much in the way of meaningful customization, but it does work and it is pretty brainless. My experience has been that few computer users care how things work, they want eye candy and something to get their word-processing done. Windows provides the eye candy and lets them get their words processed almost as efficiently as WordPerfect 4.2 did. Get with the program people, juvenile comments and FUD work in both directions. If you want to be taken seriously by the computing community, stop the BS and petty arguments. Think with your brain instead of your testosterone level. I'm happy to join Sam on the flame line. He makes sense, most of the flames I've read don't. Jim -- James Mellema, CRNA MA __ Linux User #71650
Re: [Re: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)]
Wow, they taught us CPM in trade school, kind of reminded me of DOS, it had a C compiler to build the executables and such. You mean somebody taught you an OS?! The military taught us digital theory on circuts built with individual transistors in TO3 cans, but there wasn't any concept of "the operating system." The circuit just did whatever it was wired to do. (Nowadays that's called the microcode.) My first computer as a teenager was a plastic educational toy called "Digi-COMP I" which was programmed with drinking straws and had a mechanical clock you cycled by hand. MB
[newbie] How do I quit
What do I do to get taken off of the mailing list. = __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
Re: [Re: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)]
Yes I remember. And then I moved over to the Commodore 64. - Original Message - From: Sysadmin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 06, 1999 5:23 PM Subject: Re: [Re: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)] A buddy of mine had an old Timex Sinclair, wow. do you remember the old Odyssey video game console? That was an 80's classic! On Sat, 06 Nov 1999, you wrote: I remember the days of my Timex Sinclair T1000. A whopping 2k of ram. - Original Message - From: Sysadmin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 06, 1999 3:22 PM Subject: Re: [Re: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)] Wow, they taught us CPM in trade school, kind of reminded me of DOS, it had a C compiler to build the executables and such. We were trained on the old Z80 microprocessor. I also remember Centix, the old business unix then too. On Sat, 06 Nov 1999, you wrote: Dating myself, but my first operating system was trsdos on a radio shack model I, back in those days the competition was between apple and trs-80. Rick Keep this up and I'll get my Amstrad 6128 out of the loft and start using CP/M again. John the Nadger http://www.goon.freeuk.com -- Normal=boring x 100 -- Normal=boring x 100
[newbie] second HD partition
I have a second backup hard drive on my system . I made a second partition on it using FIPS. How do I (1) get linux to recognize it and (2) how do I reformat it for linux. Before i added a second partion it was recognized as hdd1 (dos). I assume my new partition is hdd2(?). M L Cates
Re: [newbie] How do I quit
Chad Young wrote: What do I do to get taken off of the mailing list. = __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com You could try suggesting that Microsoft has some benefit to society or you could go back to the email the listserv sent when you subscribed and follow the instructions. Another suggestion would be to go back to the mandrake website and unsubscribe. -- James Mellema, CRNA MA __ Linux User #71650
[newbie] netscape accessing a secure page on secure server
whenever i use netscape to access my secure server that is running mandrake linux and my certificate is valid, netscape tells me, after going through the dialog boxes to make sure I really want to access the site, that "netscape has encountered bad data from the server". what is the problem and how do i fix it . thanx ahead of time
Re: [newbie] Star Java -- Is it worth it?
I got the Star Office Java working with help from the Star Office newsgroup. Wish I could find the post I used to do it. But the Star Office browser is slower than Netscape and really not much more stable. I think all in all Netscape is still the only reasonable browser on Linux and I have tried almost all of them Jeanette - Original Message - From: Benjamin Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Helios-New [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 06, 1999 9:44 AM Subject: [newbie] Star Java -- Is it worth it? Dear friends: Perhaps this should have been my first question concerning Java in StarOffice 51a: Is it worth it? Is it any better, any more stable than Netscape 4.7's? And is it any more global in its reach? I may have put the cart before the horse. If Java in StarOffice is no better than Java in Netscape, then why bother? Might as well cut my losses and forget the whole thing. First, it would be nice to hear from some people who have actually succeeded in installing Java in StarOffice and have used it. And can you both hear and view Java applets on the Web? All of them or some of them? What's been your experience? Thank you so much. Benjamin -- Benjamin and Anna Sher Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net
Re: [newbie] IDE's for Linux?
Is there a web site listing this and other IDE's? That is assuming there are more than just Code Crusader. Speaking of Code Crusader... How much does it cost...that is if it isn't free. Thanks, David From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] IDE's for Linux? Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 21:14:11 US/Pacific Are there any professional C++ IDEs for linux? I heard a rumor that Borland was releasing one for Linux... is there anyone else doing such and do they all support the GNU complier or do they sport their own compliers? Code Crusader. . __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [Re: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)]
I just got my L-M 6.0 configured with 2 NIC's the other day...after much reading and fiddling...etc...(read re-installs)I found the trick for me anyways. Depending on the NIC's...install the ISA jumpered FIRST, then a ISA/PCI PnP, although I recall reading somewhere that for can force Linux to try and detect 2 NIC's...but I don't remember the command or flags (perhaps someone can expand on that). HTH Jaguar James Mellema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The major reason I run Win2K now is I have been unable to use linux as a gateway to my cablemodem setup. (the other reason is I need to be familiar with it so I can work with my IT clients). After uncountable tries, and many thousands of pages of reading, I have been unable to get mandrake to recognize more that one ethernet card on my server. So, until I find the magic key I'm stuck with Windows at least for that particular function. snip Jim -- James Mellema, CRNA MA __ Linux User #71650 Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
[newbie] Xman
hello all!! I'm having a small prob with Xman. I'm running Linux-Mandrake 6.1. Every time I use Xman to open a man page they come up in an encrypted like text. Is this a bug in LM 6.1 or what? Should I reinstall Xman?(wich I cannot find, what is the name of the RPM?) thank you Joe PS god I love Linux
Re: [newbie] IDE's for Linux?
On Sat, 06 Nov 1999, you wrote: Is there a web site listing this and other IDE's? That is assuming there are more than just Code Crusader. Hmm. . .thats a good question, i think freshmeat.net might have something. www.cygnus.com is home to Code Fusion. Speaking of Code Crusader... How much does it cost...that is if it isn't free. Code Crusader is open source. Check it out at: www.cco.caltech.edu/~jafl/jcc -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction) Aggression Takes Its Toll.
Re: [newbie] Star Java -- Is it worth it?
Dear Jeanette: Thanks so very, very much, Jeanette. Nothing like the voice of experience. After struggling for hours to install Java in StarOffice, it finally occurred to me to ask the simple question of whether it would even be worth it. I just asssumed that Star's Java would be better. If, as it seems, it is not better but even worse, than who needs it. I'll stick with Netscape. Let's hope Netscape 5.0 has better Java support. Really appreciate it. Now I can get back to my work (and family). Benjamin -- Benjamin and Anna Sher Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net
Re: [newbie] second HD partition
You will probably get a lot of replys but here goes I have 2 HDs. and 2 CDs drive 1 / primamry master is cut up in 5 gig parts hda1 hda5 hda6 hda7 drive 2 / primary slave hdb1 Linux Native hdb5 Linux Swap then the CDs are hdc and hdd to get linux to see all those I setup linux on the second drive and it will see hdb1 and hdb5 already when I boot there. to get linux to see the other drive I use the mount command. is that any help? Jess On Sat, 06 Nov 1999 18:28:11 -0600 M L Cates [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have a second backup hard drive on my system . I made a second partition on it using FIPS. How do I (1) get linux to recognize it and (2) how do I reformat it for linux. Before i added a second partion it was recognized as hdd1 (dos). I assume my new partition is hdd2(?). M L Cates ___ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.
[newbie] Zip drive
Any one had any luck with the Zip Plus? I have ran the install program several times to get it to see the zip drive a few times and it never sees it. BTW, this is a Iomega (duh!) Zip Plus 100 Parallel drive. I have tried all the help files I can find to get it to go but, all they mention is the Zip Drive. I havn't even seen a Zip plus in stores for some time now. They all seem to have gone back to the old Zip drives with the new revisions and I think that is what this drive was. Jess ___ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.
[newbie] Gcc cannot creat executable.
Hello , I am brazilian and it's first message posted to this list ( sorry when my english insn't good ) . My problem is with the gcc , he cannot creat executables . In brazilians lists , i'm knew the gcc need other programs(s) , i'm made the instalation of this programs , but , he need still of more programs ... Someone can said : which programs I need to execute gcc ? Sorry for any error in my english :-) Thanks. -- Michel Thadeu Sabchuk A brazilian user of Linux Mandrake 6.0 Pentium MMX 200 - 32 Ram - 2.5 GB (hd)
[newbie] My 2c Worth over NT and Linux
Win9x/WinNT/Win2k maybe stable strate after installing but try adding some buggy 3'rd party drivers (SIS comes to mind) and watch your system BSOD. Windows is stable if you feed it the right hardware and the best of breed Drivers. And maybe a genourous helping of CPU and RAM and Harddrive Space. ONLY then can it start taking some load... Take "www.microsoft.com" for example it is driven by no less that 12 Compac machines. Linux is a lot less hungry for hardware. A standard Pentium running Linux (apache) CAN serve better than the eqiv NT machine (IIS). Linux will also suffer from a lot less costly downtime than the NT machine. ftp.cdrom.com it is run on a single machine. (Running netbsd OS, but close enough) WinNT 4 has on MAJOR design problem. The video drivers sit inside Kernel space (To speedup Windows.) So if you have a buggy drivers then BSOD and down goes the whole system. Linux's video drivers and X's do not run on the same level as the Kernel and if they are buggy they do not bring the whole system down. --- Side note. MS Proxy 2 SP1 vs Squid 2.2 (Linux.) Squid beats hands down at the amount of data it caches and the excellent QOS. "Proxy Report" errors become a thing of the past. Oh and try get MS Proxy authenticate passwords against a Novel database, block all Ads and filter out porn, Not very likely. Simple with Squid. Just a simple change in the squid Config file. -- Grant Slater - Linux yesterday, Linux today and Linux tomorrow
Re: [newbie] Star Java -- Is it worth it?
Would you be able to tell me where the newsgroup is? The only one I found on Deja is German. My local news server doesn't have a StarOffice newsgroup either! Thanks! Karen Jeanette Russo wrote: I got the Star Office Java working with help from the Star Office newsgroup. Wish I could find the post I used to do it. But the Star Office browser is slower than Netscape and really not much more stable. I think all in all Netscape is still the only reasonable browser on Linux and I have tried almost all of them Jeanette - Original Message - From: Benjamin Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Helios-New [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 06, 1999 9:44 AM Subject: [newbie] Star Java -- Is it worth it? Dear friends: Perhaps this should have been my first question concerning Java in StarOffice 51a: Is it worth it? Is it any better, any more stable than Netscape 4.7's? And is it any more global in its reach? I may have put the cart before the horse. If Java in StarOffice is no better than Java in Netscape, then why bother? Might as well cut my losses and forget the whole thing. First, it would be nice to hear from some people who have actually succeeded in installing Java in StarOffice and have used it. And can you both hear and view Java applets on the Web? All of them or some of them? What's been your experience? Thank you so much. Benjamin -- Benjamin and Anna Sher Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net
Re: [newbie] virtual consoles can't start x-server
On Fri, 05 Nov 1999, you wrote: On Fri, 5 Nov 1999, Axalon Bloodstone wrote: On Fri, 5 Nov 1999, Karen M. Heiby wrote: the command is "startx" (no quotes) if your runnning in runlevel 5 (X auto starts) or have one X session already open you'll need to tell it to start a second (or third) you do this by adding "-- :#" to the startx commandline. It looks like so startx -- :1 # start a second X remeber we start counding with 0 startx -- :2 # And maybe a third What about switching between X sessions? Alt+F7 normally takes you back to X... the original one. How do you get back to the second one after leaving it? Alt+F8 should do it... John
Re: [newbie] returned E-mail problems
On Sat, 06 Nov 1999, you wrote: Yep. I'm getting 'em too. I put "private.mindspring.net" in my filters. Now, any mail I get from ANY of those servers is going straight into my trash. :-) John GuysMe too! Today was the first time. One for each reply. Yeah...Axalon said he'd taken care of it, but apparently it's still going on, 'cause I switched on my Windows box to download a whole bunch of stuff from my Hotmail account (which is basically not being used any more G) in my Outlook Express. Unfortunately, Outlook Express also downloaded new mail from my main account here, and there were a couple messages from "private.mspring.net" so it really does appear that it's still going on! :-( (Hey, Axalon...I'm still seeing email bouncing from that "private.mspring.net" series of systems!) John
Re: [Re: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)]
I installed two nics in my mandrake 6.0 sometime back. I just stuck the second one in and fired up the machine, and it was recognized right off the bat. I haven't had to do anything other than 'turn it on' in netconf. One is a linksys and one is 3com, both are pci. There was no 'forceing' involved, it just worked. Maybe I got lucky?:-) Chip On Sat, 06 Nov 1999, you wrote: I just got my L-M 6.0 configured with 2 NIC's the other day...after much reading and fiddling...etc...(read re-installs)I found the trick for me anyways. Depending on the NIC's...install the ISA jumpered FIRST, then a ISA/PCI PnP, although I recall reading somewhere that for can force Linux to try and detect 2 NIC's...but I don't remember the command or flags (perhaps someone can expand on that). HTH Jaguar James Mellema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The major reason I run Win2K now is I have been unable to use linux as a gateway to my cablemodem setup. (the other reason is I need to be familiar with it so I can work with my IT clients). After uncountable tries, and many thousands of pages of reading, I have been unable to get mandrake to recognize more that one ethernet card on my server. So, until I find the magic key I'm stuck with Windows at least for that particular function. snip Jim -- James Mellema, CRNA MA __ Linux User #71650 Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
Re: [newbie] Opening Windows in Virtual Consoles
Perhaps I should simplify a bit. I would certainly enjoy running Windows and Linux at the same time. It seems that I cannot do this. That makes sense. I have heard that people can start their machine with Windows and then from there boot into Linux. How is this possible. On Sat, 06 Nov 1999, you wrote: Sorry I meant Xwindows, not MS Windows. No, I don't think it's possible. Karen Dreja Julag wrote: Is this possible? I have heard about it a bit, and I think I would enjoy it. The only proble I would see if it was possible is hardware confilicts and both of Linux and Win confused when a piece of hardware is used. -- Drew Jackman [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ - 20177604 -- Drew Jackman [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ - 20177604
[newbie] StarOffice newsgroups -- info below
Dear Karen and friends Here is the URL listing all of StarOffice's newsgroups (in English and other languages). http://www.sun.com/products/staroffice/newsgroups.html If you lose the address, just go to Sun's home page (www.sun.com) and type in the Search box at top "newsgroups". Yours, Benjamin -- Benjamin and Anna Sher Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net
Re: [Re: [newbie] Antiques-was--MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)]
Yes and the Commodore 128, and its throwback the VIC20. A bud of mine still has his C24, and still workds On Sat, 06 Nov 1999, you wrote: Yes I remember. And then I moved over to the Commodore 64. - Original Message - From: Sysadmin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 06, 1999 5:23 PM Subject: Re: [Re: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)] A buddy of mine had an old Timex Sinclair, wow. do you remember the old Odyssey video game console? That was an 80's classic! On Sat, 06 Nov 1999, you wrote: I remember the days of my Timex Sinclair T1000. A whopping 2k of ram. - Original Message - From: Sysadmin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 06, 1999 3:22 PM Subject: Re: [Re: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)] Wow, they taught us CPM in trade school, kind of reminded me of DOS, it had a C compiler to build the executables and such. We were trained on the old Z80 microprocessor. I also remember Centix, the old business unix then too. On Sat, 06 Nov 1999, you wrote: Dating myself, but my first operating system was trsdos on a radio shack model I, back in those days the competition was between apple and trs-80. Rick Keep this up and I'll get my Amstrad 6128 out of the loft and start using CP/M again. John the Nadger http://www.goon.freeuk.com -- Normal=boring x 100 -- Normal=boring x 100 -- Normal=boring x 100
Re: [newbie] How do I quit
Microsoft has no benefit to me and I don't use it. On Sat, 06 Nov 1999, you wrote: Chad Young wrote: What do I do to get taken off of the mailing list. = __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com You could try suggesting that Microsoft has some benefit to society or you could go back to the email the listserv sent when you subscribed and follow the instructions. Another suggestion would be to go back to the mandrake website and unsubscribe. -- James Mellema, CRNA MA __ Linux User #71650 -- Normal=boring x 100
Re: [Re: [newbie] Antiques-was--MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)]
I've still got the 64, but haven't fired it up for a long time. Those were the days. - Original Message - From: Sysadmin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 07, 1999 12:46 AM Subject: Re: [Re: [newbie] Antiques-was--MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)] Yes and the Commodore 128, and its throwback the VIC20. A bud of mine still has his C24, and still workds On Sat, 06 Nov 1999, you wrote: Yes I remember. And then I moved over to the Commodore 64. - Original Message - From: Sysadmin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 06, 1999 5:23 PM Subject: Re: [Re: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)] A buddy of mine had an old Timex Sinclair, wow. do you remember the old Odyssey video game console? That was an 80's classic! On Sat, 06 Nov 1999, you wrote: I remember the days of my Timex Sinclair T1000. A whopping 2k of ram. - Original Message - From: Sysadmin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 06, 1999 3:22 PM Subject: Re: [Re: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)] Wow, they taught us CPM in trade school, kind of reminded me of DOS, it had a C compiler to build the executables and such. We were trained on the old Z80 microprocessor. I also remember Centix, the old business unix then too. On Sat, 06 Nov 1999, you wrote: Dating myself, but my first operating system was trsdos on a radio shack model I, back in those days the competition was between apple and trs-80. Rick Keep this up and I'll get my Amstrad 6128 out of the loft and start using CP/M again. John the Nadger http://www.goon.freeuk.com -- Normal=boring x 100 -- Normal=boring x 100 -- Normal=boring x 100
Re: [newbie] Zip drive
I have ordered a zip250, which I think uses the same SCSI card as the regular zip 100. Hmm, now I know how to set it up during installation, but is it possible to set it up without running the installer by just telling it to load the correct driver assuming one has the directories /mnt/zip250 created and the moint point in their /etc/fstab file? On Sat, 06 Nov 1999, you wrote: Any one had any luck with the Zip Plus? I have ran the install program several times to get it to see the zip drive a few times and it never sees it. BTW, this is a Iomega (duh!) Zip Plus 100 Parallel drive. I have tried all the help files I can find to get it to go but, all they mention is the Zip Drive. I havn't even seen a Zip plus in stores for some time now. They all seem to have gone back to the old Zip drives with the new revisions and I think that is what this drive was. Jess ___ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. -- Normal=boring x 100
Re: [newbie] enlightenment
Axalon Bloodstone wrote: On Thu, 4 Nov 1999, Jesse Royall wrote: tate.. I am not 100% sure.. but desktopcfg that works for me at the command line. and then I just select the Desktop I want to use...took me a few reinstalls to do figure that one out! Jess On Thu, 04 Nov 1999 16:43:57 -0700 "Tate A. Yancey" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've screwed up my system so many times that I'm tired of reinstalling :). Can someone tell me what files to change to have enlightenment as my wm for kde? ___ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. This was discused last week with very good instructions (step by step), have a look in the archives. desktopcfg doesn't yet have an option for Enlightened-KDE, as i haven't gotten to it yet. -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon Axalon, I searcged the archives and couldn't find the info on this. Could you please provide the references or links to the info? Thanks
RE: [newbie] MS releases new Windows and NT Keyboard (humor)
I want to agree with Seth here, lets get back to Linux. Here is a dumb question. What is MESA 3.1? The reason I keep Win98 is so I can play Quake 2 online. Can't wait for more gaming to come to the Linux community. J On Fri, 05 Nov 1999, you wrote: On Fri, 05 Nov 1999, you wrote: I'm only defending against the stupid lies here and in the Linux community. If you made an argument that Linux is better because that's OK. If you start spreading lies like NT crashes left and right, I know it not to be true. Key phrase there being "I know it not to be true". Another person's truth might be totally different, so to call the statement "NT crashes left and right" a lie might be stepping on someone else's truth. In the case of Windows, it's really a double edged sword. For some people it works wonderfully, for some it works not quite as well. Neither one is a lie, they are just things that different people "know it to be true." I mean, if we want to slam MS more we could tap a keg at the fact that a judge just ruled Microsoft a monopoly. But on the other hand, we could rejoice at the fact that the judge also said that one of the reasons for his ruling of monopoly is that "there is no viable alternative (to Windows on the desktop)"', probably including linux. Again the double edged sword, because this is certainly a statement that many of us linux users "know it NOT to be true" to paraphrase. Personally, i have to go with whoever stated that there is room for both. I use both and im not going to say one is that much better from a pure user standpoint. Yes on the technical level i would have a different opinion, but thats not the point. Some things i just like better under DOS/Win and some under linux. It's a big world, some use one some use the other. It's all good right?? So now back to linux if anyone's read this far. Is there any good DTP software? Something on the order of Publisher? Also, getting back to games (of course!) i saw this post on linuxgames with a list of commercial games available or coming soon. For anyone interested they are: Soldier of Fortune - Soon Heroes of Might and Magic - Soon Hopkins FBI - Now - Requires XFree 3.3 Quake 1 - Now - Requires Mesa 2.4 Quake 2 - Now - Requires Mesa 3.0 Quake 3 - November - Requires Mesa 3.1 or XFree 4.0 Unreal Tournament - November - Requires Glide 2.53 BFRIS - Now - Requires Mesa Descent 3 - Unsupported - Soon - Requires Mesa 3.0 Kingpin - Unsupported - Now - Requires Mesa 3.0 Ultima Online - Unsupported - Requires XFree 3.3 Civilization CTP - Now - Require XFree 3.3 Myth 2 - Now - Requires XFree 3.3 (Mesa 3.0 support soon) Railroad Tycoon - Now - Requires XFree 3.3 Heretic 2 - December - Requires Mesa 3.1 Heavy Gear 2 - January - Requires Mesa 3.1 Eric's Ultimate Solitaire - October - Requires XFree 3.3 Abuse - Free - Now Descent 1 - Now Doom/Doom 2 - Free - Now Heretic 1 - Free - Now - Requires XFree 3.3 Hexen 1 - Free - Now Battlecruiser 3020AD/Millenium - 2000 Neverwinter Nights - 2000 Terminus - 2000 -- Seth Gibson www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction) Aggression Takes Its Toll.
Re: [newbie] Opening Windows in Virtual Consoles
You could use vmware (www.vmware.com) to boot either windows from linux or linux from windows (depending what version you get). I use it to run winNT under linux and I definitely recommend it. On Sat, 6 Nov 1999, Dreja Julag wrote: Perhaps I should simplify a bit. I would certainly enjoy running Windows and Linux at the same time. It seems that I cannot do this. That makes sense. I have heard that people can start their machine with Windows and then from there boot into Linux. How is this possible. On Sat, 06 Nov 1999, you wrote: Sorry I meant Xwindows, not MS Windows. No, I don't think it's possible. Karen Dreja Julag wrote: Is this possible? I have heard about it a bit, and I think I would enjoy it. The only proble I would see if it was possible is hardware confilicts and both of Linux and Win confused when a piece of hardware is used. -- Drew Jackman [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ - 20177604 -- Drew Jackman [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ - 20177604
