[newbie-it] connessione a internet
ciao io posseggo la mandrake7.2 e mi capita sempre un fastidioso problema alla connessione a internet. Il mio è un modem esterno 56k. Ogni volta che provo a connettermi mi da sempre errore e mi dice che non ho attivato il debug del pppd mi chiede di attivarlo e al secondo tentativo mi da un altro errore di timeout. Al terzo tentativo finalmente si connette. Volevo sapere come eliminare questo bug in quanto sono costretto ogni volta a rifare lo stesso procedimento e a sprecare 3 telefonate inutilmente quando me ne basterebbe solo una per ritirare la posta Grazie a chi mi risponderà e saluti
[newbie-it] Installazione di StarOffice
Salve, Ho installato la Mandrake 7.1 creando alcuni utenti. Ora vorrei installare StarOffice in modo che sia visibile e utilizzabile da parte di tutti gli utenti. Come mi devo comportare? O meglio, ci sono accorgimenti particolari da seguire? (installazione di rete e poi installazione per ogni singolo utente; la macchina però non è in rete). Grazie per l'attenzione e auguri per il 2001 a tutti. Pietro Tosarello
Re: [newbie] Why use linux at all? - not heresy, just want astraight answer please+a laff
Well, I've seen a lot of "because the other guy is bad" stuff. And I've seen a lot of "I want my computer more stable" stuff. But neither of those really address the reasons I've been fooling with Linux for years. And none of my reasons may be meaningful to you. The context in which I run Linux is really a bit different than an average home user. The reason I run Linux, in addition to, not as an alternative to, Windows (pick your flavor) is I want the toolkit that grew up in the Unix world. I had been a Unix system administrator for years before I got stuck with my first Windows 3.0 box to take care of. That first Windows experience I found frustrating because of the very limited tools, so I would dump the ini files to an SCO box to actually work on them. Linux, Windows, Novell, the various BSD packages and the commercial Unix's have come a long way since then. But I still find the toolkit that's standard in the Unix world to be superior to the toolkits that cost money in the other worlds. It's basically a simple math problem. The tools are better (for what I need, maybe not for what you need) and the price is almost free. (OK, It's free, but for Heaven's sake buy at least one CD from some poor sucker trying to make a living at this.) Can I dump Windows. No, I'd go out of business. I'm sitting here at an NT 4.0 box writing this in Outlook Express because I've been working on something for a customer this morning. When I hit the send button this NT box will find the outbound SMTP server using a DNS server on a RedHat box, and drop the mail into the queue on a FreeBSD box at the ISP office by routing through another RedHat box running pmfirewall to set up the ipchains. Our NIS domain in handled by a Sparc running OpenBSD, and the home directory and printers are handled by a Mandrake 7.0 and a Mandrake 7.1 box. The inbound mail is handled by another Mandrake box, and when my mailbox gets out of hand I drop back into a shell and use procmail to move everything around. If I'm on the road I still read my mail with elm (oh goodness, this guy must be *OLD*). My own personal workstation is a dual boot between NT 4.0 and RedHat 7, and the workbench machine behind me is a dual boot between W98 and Mandrake 7.2. All of the other desktops in the office are some flavor of Windows. So, why do we use Linux? Because it fills a niche, and does it well. Michael
Fwd: Re[4]: [newbie] The NVIDIA Kernel Compile
Hello s, Thursday, December 28, 2000, 10:55:51 AM, you wrote: s On Thursday 14 December 2000 12:16 am, you wrote: Hellos, Wednesday, December 27, 2000, 5:31:59 PM, you wrote: s Great thanks. That did the trick. Now if I could get the agpgart moduled to s load so I could install the nvidia drivers I would be delirious. s -s You are welcome :) Do you have an i815 board ? I came to that problem (agpgart and new kernels) only on that one, and could not solve it anyhow Onur s Yep, an i815. It's a mess. I tried loading the module first, even s unsupported. I tried modifying the nvdriver kernel so that it would use it's s own agp. Just won't work. Somebody's bound to think of something soon, I s hope. s -s wow ! I cant believe it ! Finally I found something on the net that I am not the only person who came across this ! umm, should I be happy or sad?? I did many tricks with agpgart too, from module parameter, unsupported, to trying with the source, downloading an agpgart from intels site (source RPM) and using it, tweaking nvidia's old and new drivers, changing source, increasing and decreasing support of it (you know,for via 4X, agp memory stuff etc), forcing to use its own agp stuff and forcing not to use it, again from the source, but no way! No way it works ! No info I could find on the net Nvidia did not even care to answer a "kind enough to write a very dep letter of info" CUSTOMER, not even a lie " we are working on the subject". I even sent a mail to loki, (well, they are most busy on defining 3D drivers on hardware, I believe) No info on net. No info from "officials" No info from mailing lists. AM stuck !! May god help us ! Or maybe, a human may help ? hope sooo well, honestly, after all those I did, I lost hope :( ps: 815 is great, no way I will change it for long :) Onur __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com
Re: [newbie] Why use linux at all? - not heresy, just want a straightanswer please
On Sat, 30 Dec 2000, Herman Christiani wrote: David and Alicia Would mandrake run on a p60, 540 mb hd, ? Hi, Not likely, Mandrake needs a Pentium to run well, you are better off with something like Red Hat 5.2 for this machine. Hello Herman, P60 stands for Pentium 60. So it would work. Paul -- Disclaimer: "These opinions are my own, though for a small fee they can be yours too." http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 7.2 - Pine 4.31
Re: [newbie] Kernel upgrade help!
On Fri, 29 Dec 2000, Jon Doe wrote: I am using Mandrake 7.1 and was wondering if I can install the kernel that comes with 7.2 ie: 2.2.17-21.mdk.rpm ? Or is this kernel specifically for 7.2? Yes, you can upgrade the kernel with no problem. Also, I was wondering what kernel rpms do I actaully need to install, I see there are several rpms and I didn't think they all needed to be installed, but I have only done it once and can't remember which ones I installed. If you plan on compiling things yourself, you should also install the kernel header sources. Without those, most things won't compile. Docs are always good too. Good luck Paul -- Disclaimer: "These opinions are my own, though for a small fee they can be yours too." http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 7.2 - Pine 4.31
Re: [newbie] Printer Error
On Fri, 29 Dec 2000, SoloCDM wrote: After trying to print a file as "cat filename | lpr", what caused the following message to be sent to administration? lp printer job "stdin": Your printer job (stdin) was not printed because it was not linked to the original file lpr filenamewould prolly do what you want. -- Disclaimer: "These opinions are my own, though for a small fee they can be yours too." http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 7.2 - Pine 4.31
[newbie] No more Gates gets Linux thread
Hi all, Can we make a New Year's resolution to zap this thread. Say no to the gates gets Linux thread. Let's start a new one. Oh yeah, if you want to continue, please remove gates before Linux. Please!! -- Roman Registered Linux User #179293
Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux
I heard rumers. Perhaps microsoft has realised people can use f8 to get to dos and want to remove that so they can chage $10,000 to send a repair man with a boot disk over when it goes wrong. On Thu, 28 Dec 2000, you wrote: There's an update to Millennium coming out later this year. I think it's name is Whistler. goldenpi wrote: Give it time. I have just seen windows millenium and I can assure you it will not last. It is awful. It is slow. It takes up half my hard drive and then its optional parts take the rest. And it doesn't work. Windows 2k however is here to stay. I haven't seen it running but I have heard of it. On Tue, 26 Dec 2000, you wrote: - Original Message - From: David Raleigh Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2000 5:17 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux I am locked into bad mouse support by 2-button mouse users. Linux mouse support is hardly configurable at all. I have seen the sawfish mouse dialog. Ridiculous. Very true indeed. Kde should build a special mouse driver for mice that have a scrol wheel and side buttons. Mine has four buttons and a scroll wheel. And the people who make the mice should write software for linux also. After all there are a lot of people using linux today. I feel that if every one using linux sent email to the logitech company asking for drivers/software for there products then they might do something about it. i just bought a new printer, a lexmark Z32 because they have drivers for linux. And the Z52 has drivers for linux also. My mouse is a ms intelli mouse explorer and whith the software for windoze I can get the buttons to do what ever I want them to do, and I can change the icons as well. But I bought it because it does not have a ball in it and can use it as either ps2 or usb. I also feel that linux should have surport for IDE CD Burners, not just SCSI. Regards Anthony Daniell -- == Goldenpi - linux user, unreal editor, programer in 3 languages and all round geek. -- Roman Registered Linux User #179293 -- == Goldenpi - linux user, unreal editor, programer in 3 languages and all round geek.
Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux
Winme is unfixable. If you accidently lose the drivers for the video card you cant fix it from dos. Dos does nothing. You cant reboot in dos, you cant even get to a dos prompt. I wonder how you pass command line stuff? On Thu, 28 Dec 2000, you wrote: On Thursday 28 December 2000 03:06, you wrote: There's an update to Millennium coming out later this year. I think it's name is Whistler. Yeah...that short for "Whistle friggin dixie while you wait for ever for your computer to stinkin work correctly cause this OS sucks!" I'm sorry. Win 95B is a good one and 98SE isn't too bad as long as you keep the registry squeeky clean; NT4.0 with "all" the service pack installed and kept clean will run well too, but WinME is a joke! What were they thinking? Sorry to the list cause this ain't a windows forum. Nowdie...thread DIE! :) -- Mark "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless," "Sharing is what makes them powerful." Linus Torvalds -- == Goldenpi - linux user, unreal editor, programer in 3 languages and all round geek.
Re: [newbie] Print problem
Paul, When I run that command I get the message: Command unknown. Michael Coady You may want to run lpstat -a and see what printer is set up as the default printer. Paul
RE: [newbie] gates gets Linux
In other words, nothing will work. Anything that would not work under nt will nt work under whistler. Then m$ can start chargeing for all sorts of unneeded patches. On Thu, 28 Dec 2000, you wrote: Whistler is no an "update" to Windows ME. It is the complete replacement of all previous "consumer" Windows versions (Win95, Win98, WinME) with a Windows NT based code source. What this means for Microsoft is that all "markets" - consumer, workstation and server - will have the same code base. Some of the GUI shell stuff will be different between the consumer and workstation/server versions no doubt, but the core OS will be NT based. Cheers and Happy New Year to all, Rick -Original Message- From: Romanator Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 7:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux There's an update to Millennium coming out later this year. I think it's name is Whistler. goldenpi wrote: Give it time. I have just seen windows millenium and I can assure you it will . .. .. -- == Goldenpi - linux user, unreal editor, programer in 3 languages and all round geek.
[newbie] Linux Etc.
2001 should be an interesting year. Roman root wrote: Hi Roman, Have a happy new year. I'm going to. I am playing with kde now trying trying to upgrade to 2.0.1 and having a ball. Anthony Daniell (Tony) Romanator wrote: Hey Tony, Have a Happy New Year. Cheers! -- Roman Registered Linux User #179293 Anthony Daniell wrote: Ok I think you can contact them at [EMAIL PROTECTED] but I am still waiting for a reply to my email about there cameras and that was three weeks ago. Anthony Daniell. - Original Message - From: "Vic" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 29, 2000 2:19 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux Does HP make their own printer drivers as well? If I had the e mail address I would e mail them and tell them they need to write linux drivers for their mice On Tue, 26 Dec 2000, Anthony Daniell wrote: - Original Message - From: David Raleigh Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2000 5:17 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux I am locked into bad mouse support by 2-button mouse users. Linux mouse support is hardly configurable at all. I have seen the sawfish mouse dialog. Ridiculous. Very true indeed. Kde should build a special mouse driver for mice that have a scrol wheel and side buttons. Mine has four buttons and a scroll wheel. And the people who make the mice should write software for linux also. After all there are a lot of people using linux today. I feel that if every one using linux sent email to the logitech company asking for drivers/software for there products then they might do something about it. i just bought a new printer, a lexmark Z32 because they have drivers for linux. And the Z52 has drivers for linux also. My mouse is a ms intelli mouse explorer and whith the software for windoze I can get the buttons to do what ever I want them to do, and I can change the icons as well. But I bought it because it does not have a ball in it and can use it as either ps2 or usb. I also feel that linux should have surport for IDE CD Burners, not just SCSI. Regards Anthony Daniell
Re: [newbie] How do I run a Windows Program in Linux?
On Friday 29 December 2000 07:57 pm, Jody wrote: Hi Tom, Wine is prob'ly installed, but not setup. ( locate wine ) I'm newbie-newbie!-) Is that a command to run from somewhere to find anything with 'wine' in it, you start a terminal and type 'locate wine' (w/o the 's). To find just the binary, you'd type 'whereis wine' This is assuming you leave your computer running overnight so that cron updates you files. If you don't you might need to run (as root) 'locate -u' or 'updatedb' (your choice, they both do the same thing). and then do I click on a wine gear wheel to run it, or is it like commandline driven: locate wine run /application/notetab pro.exe? g You need to read the wine docs, but in your example, if wine is setup to recongnize where your partitions are (wine.conf or .winerc), then 'wine notetab\ pro' run while in notetab's directory (might) run notetab pro.exe As I posted before, wine docs, manual, etc. can be found at: http://wine.codeweavers.com/ or on your HDD if it's installed. -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
[newbie] Newbie dumb question.....whats a kernel, whats an rpm - clarity mark answers only please
I'd like to know, can somebody put me straight on why we should be optimising our kernels? what is a kernel? David and Alicia -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of john rigbySent: 30 December 2000 02:21To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [newbie] USER ONLY: A plan Ha folks, In line with my policy to put something back ... Here are some additional descriptions that can help us all here: Newby-Newby: Someone stuck it to them. "Just plug it in and switch it on" Remember the Applecore ads?? Even *I* nearly rushed out and bought one after years of fighting Wdoze. Just be sympathetic and send them away. They SHOULD still be using Windoze. Linux is definitely not ready for cold starts. User-Newby Characterised by their total lack of interest in playing under the hood. Usually frustrated Wdozers just looking for a way to run a small business or write a Great Novel, or just look for help and inspiration on the 3Ws. They just want a working Office Suite and a Browser. THAT's ALL. Nerd-(Specific = Linux/M72) Newby IF, if they owned a car, they would change their own oil - refine it too, if they could. They are characterised by a complete inability to use more than 3 fingers to type and no way would they stoop to Typequik(r) to quadruple their output. Would never buy a car with an autoshift. Even if they ever did buy one. "Who needs 'em? Pizza is delivered." Will go to any extreme to use the Big C ( no, not that - the command line!)Would rather use Morse Code, than CB. Actually are VITAL to the rest of us EVER escaping 'Doze. IF we can only figure out what they are saying. Masochist-Newby They are the ones who deliberately tackle projects like LINUX. For fun! They are truly born to the other universe of Codecutters. Almost impossible to communicate with. Better left alone in a dark place and fed lots of Pizzas and Strange Drinks. Just tell them things like " Well, this cannot be done anyway, no way" and go away. Eventually they will hand you a workable program, which has to be filtered thru numerous Nerd-[specific] Newbies and one day will have INSTRUCTIONS on how to use it. Ha! In your Dreams! Folks, 95% of Newbies to Linux are not Nerds of any type. They are the future of Linux: ORDINARY USERS. We need millions of us to make it all work. So my humble submission: HOW ABOUT: USER-Newbies putting that in the Subject Line, e.g. USER: emulator advice req. THEN responders will know they have to talk simple English - and NEVER mention the Big C except as a last resort. AND Users won't go nutz trying to translate esoteric things of no interest at all - like compiling kernels. Happy New Year! John Remember LTUAE? Then try this: www.fablor.com/auroraBut, DON'T Go here! www.fablor.com/meteora
[newbie] Package Installation
I have LM72 and am having a problem (I think) attempting to install the package make. I am using the rpmdrake and select make to install; it runs but does not leave the list. Go to a terminal and try to use the command only to be told 'make not available'. Return to rpmdrake and select uninstall (thinking it should show what is installed) and make does not come up as an option. Re-attempt to install make to get error box that says already installed. I installed another package using rpmdrake and it went right in. This is very frustrating. Don
Re: [newbie] Ram seen in 7.2
On Fri, 29 Dec 2000, Dennis Myers wrote: only showing 64mg I have added the append = "mem=128" to lilo.conf but it does not seem to have made a difference to what the control center Did you remember to run lilo as a command after the change? (You need to do this as root). That will fix it. Paul -- Disclaimer: "These opinions are my own, though for a small fee they can be yours too." http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 7.2 - Pine 4.31
[newbie] Login Screen Size
I have installed my system to a resolution of 1280x1024 using the experienced option but the login screen appears to be at very low resolution. Can I up the resolution of the login screen and how. When I previously installed using the customised option the login screen matched the X resolution chosen. Nev
[newbie] Fwd: KDE 2.1 CVS Update RPM's for 7.2 (and 7.1 and 7.0, with some work)
Hello, I have made a set of update RPM's for 7.2 available for KDE 2.1 CVS code. The RPM's are made from CVS code of 12-29-2000. These RPM's are NOT supported by MandrakeSoft. Please report bugs in the code to [EMAIL PROTECTED] using the bug reporting utilities found on Help--Report Bugs in any KDE application. Please report any packaging problems to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Messages posted in the mailling lists regarding these RPM's will be ignored. You can find these rpm's at: FTP: ftp://nebsllc.com/pub/KDE_UPDATE/ (primary) ftp://us.mandrakesoft.com/pub/kde/KDE_UPDATE/ (mirror) HTTP: http://www.nebsllc.com/KDE_UPDATE/ (primary) The source RPM's are available as well but are 100% unsupported. I will ignore any messages regarding these, they built here but as the code is beta at this time some of them needed some help compiling. (hint: look up the --short-circuit flag). User's of MandrakeUpdate can point to any of the above directories but please remember that MandrakeUpdate can not install dependencies. The directory also includes an update to cups, qtcups, and kups which adds some dependencies. While these are NOT required for the KDE update you may want to consider doing these updates manually. Again, these are unsupported and just provided because I needed to do them anyways. For install instructions see: http://www.kde.org/install-binaries.html Mandrake 7.0 and 7.1 Users: These RPM's should work for you as well but you will need to find several dependencies to get them to install. You can find the directions for these at: http://kde2.newmail.ru/mandrake_rpms.html - I have not tested this, but am told it works. -Chris --- ---
Re: [newbie] gcc tutorial
On Saturday 30 December 2000 04:45 am, Abraham Mandac wrote: Can someone point me to a gcc tutorial [on the internet or a good book]? I find the man pages a bit overwhelming as yet. Thanks, Abe go to Google and search 'gcc tutorial', it'll return 35,000 links, some which might be useful ;) Then search 'c++ tutorial' and you get a lifetime's worth of tutorials, courses (with examples/problems), online books, etc and more. Enough to keep you out'a print book stores ; -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
Re: [newbie] Why use linux at all? - not heresy, just want a straight answer please
I have to jump in to this discussion, because I just can't help myself. I have used windows for as long as it has existed. Started with the DOS boot up before Windows 3.1 and right on up to 98. I got so tired of the blue screen and system freezes. I took Norton Antivirus off of our home computers because it caused crashes at random. None of these things were readily fixible. I have two Windows books, 2 inches thick each, they didn't help. I decided to try Linux, couldn't get caldera to load went to Mandrake, voila! it blew me away. For the bucks spent (including books) and the functionality recieved there is no comparison to windows. I can have 4 screens running at the same time and no effect on speed or other performance. I would be looking at the blue screen in windows if I tried some of the things I do in linux. I have learned so much on my own and with the help of this mail list in the past 6 months that it amazes me. When you get to be my age the affirmation of the ability to continue to learn is comforting. No Senelity showing yet. That's my dollar 295 cents worth. So now I gotta go and see what I can fix or break and then fix in my linux system. Happy New Year! On Friday 29 December 2000 06:11 pm, you wrote: Joseph Red wrote: Well, for myself, I got sick of rebooting whenever I wanted to play a game. And the crashes. Since I was rebooting for games anyway, why not dual-boot? Then I started discovering how far Linux has come (the last time I used it was a pre-1.0 version of Slack). Heck, there was support for my USB webcam, and my digital cam. The only thing I haven't found a replacement for is my Timex Datalink watch software (to be fair, I haven't looked:). And since I've started running Linux (4-5 months) I've booted Windows about 5 times. Mainly to double-check hardware IRQs I/Os. Joseph Red Okay, explain this to me: You switched from Windows to Linux because you wanted to more easily play games? Surely this is one of Linux's weakest areas? (Well, that and its font system). Didn't you find yourself unable to play the games you wanted to under Linux? Society Design Mailing List http://www.egroups.com/group/Society_Design For any and all aspects of designing societies, from discussion of real- world utopian ideas to fantastic fictional or roleplaying worlds. ---Revenant [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] --
Re: [newbie] Fast CPU
Yeah yeah yeah... :) yuck it up. If I get this working though, (not holding my breath - I might pass out) it would be cool! Mark Roger Sherman wrote: Hey Mark, my email client uses Procmail just fine! ;-) Pine, by the way...;-p peace, Rog http://www.slammingrooves.com Registered Linux user #19071 On Fri, 29 Dec 2000, Mark Weaver wrote: Nope...you are correct and this fact leaves me wondering how in the world I can filter duplicate messages with Kmail filtering technology. How about it MandrakeSoft? Any ideas? That, or a good solid method of using Procmail filtering with Kmail as one would use with Pine. -- Mark "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless," "Sharing is what makes them powerful." Linus Torvalds On Friday 29 December 2000 13:47, you wrote: I thought I am the only person to receive multiple copies! There were (13) copies of this posting At 28-12-2000 +1100, you wrote: On Wed, 27 Dec 2000 22:04, ZER0 FREQUENCY wrote: John Arkoulis wrote: Can you please point me at a site (independent) that I can compare the new fast CPUs (P4 1.4, Dual G4, Athlon) Yes I know G4 is a MAC. Which one do you think is best for Linux??? Thanks I personally like AMD. Although linux mostly supports intel. Not much change since AMD has intel-compatible microprocessors. http://www.tomshardware.com has great PC CPU (i.e. no Mac) reviews. It recently has done extensive testing on the Pentium 4, comparing it to other Intel and AMD processors. It generally concludes that AMD chips are better, since they are significantly cheaper for about the same performance. The Pentium 4, it says, is difficult to compare to other CPUs since there are currrently no programmes that can take advantage of its new instructions. This is particularly important in the floating point department (i.e. mathematical calculations), where it rates poorly on current apps that are unoptimised for it. It will be quite some time before programmes can use the Pentium 4 well, so until then we should use more conventional CPUs. There is nothing wrong with using a Mac for Linux. PowerPC chips, like Alphas and SunSparcs, are based on RISC technology (Intel and AMD use CISC), which is typically better for complex mathematical calculations. If this is not a consideration, then CISC will do. In the end, it depends on what you want to do with the CPU that matters. If you want to run Windows in a dual-boot configuration and/or run many games, the x86 (i.e. Intel and AMD) architecture would be a better choice. It also makes installing apps a lot easier (it's easier to find ready-made i386, i586 or i686 binaries, hence you won't have to compile code). In this case, I strongly recommend AMD, for the same reasons that www.tomshardware.com does. If you plan to do much scientific and mathematical work, then RISC (whether it be PowerPC, Alpha, SunSparc or something else) is probably better (as long as you can find the programmes you need). -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. Your mouse has moved. Windows must be rebooted to acknowledge this change.
[newbie] upgrading 7.1 to 7.2
Hi, Is there a way to remotely initiate an upgrade from 7.1 to 7.2. How would you do it? Using RPMs or Or second question: Is there a way to verify and upgrade all dependant rpms. Example Apache Web server. Tx for all answers Peter D.
Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux
Look at this number sequence: 512k 1m 4m 8m 32m see how quickly it goes up? They are the memory requirements for windows. dos would word with 512k. windows 3.11 needed 4 meg. windows 95 needed 8 meg. Windows 98 needed 32Meg. Whistler will need so much people will have to buy more. And look at processers: dos : 8086 win3.11 : 80286 win95 : 80386 win98 : unknown win me : 166MHz thats enough that I managed to fty my laptop processor when I tried to overclock it and run windows me. It cost £25 for a new pentium 166. On Fri, 29 Dec 2000, you wrote: Romanator wrote: Revenant wrote: Clarification: Millenium is MS eking the last $$$ it can out of the dying Win9x OS. Whistler will be what Win2000 was supposed to be - the fusion of the NT line with the Win9x line. It is supposed to be a very different beast to the Win9x line, including ME... Have you noticed that the OS is getting bigger and bigger? They are pushing our resources to their limits. shrug Our resource limits are increasing. Most software aims to take maximum advantage of the hardware available. Now that the industry standard machine is a PIII, I'd be disappointed if the OS didn't have additional functionality. That said, Windows *does* seem to have more than its fair share of bloat... Society Design Mailing List http://www.egroups.com/group/Society_Design For any and all aspects of designing societies, from discussion of real- world utopian ideas to fantastic fictional or roleplaying worlds. ---Revenant [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -- -- == Goldenpi - linux user, unreal editor, programer in 3 languages and all round geek.
[newbie] mounting
using mdk 7.2secure with security @high just switched to kde after this reinstall and can't seem to figure out allowing myself as a normal user how to mount removable media (don't want to use supermount). for example my floppy entry in fstab is /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto sync,user,noauto,nosuid,nodev 0 0 since I specified user is allowed to mount in fstab isn't the user now allowed to mount the floppy? when I do try to mount from the command line I get back "mount: only root can do that" As well if I try selecting the floppy icon on the desktop the error message "Unable to run the command specified. The file or directory file:/mnt/floppy does not exist. Interesting it does exist. Viewing the directories with Konqueror shows "/mnt" to be locked. The /mnt dir is owned by root with group 'adm'. All directories inside /mnt are owner and group as both root. Suggestions Greg
Re: [newbie] Why use linux at all? - not heresy, just want a straight answer please
On Fri, 29 Dec 2000, you wrote: ok, here is the real question: why do people try running linux?, the impression i had gathered was that it was a lighter os and could be used on older machines, (i386 etc). I was a little dismayed when i saw the download size. How much disk space will a bare install need? David and Alicia yep. But dont expect to have a lot. You probably wouldn't be able to fit in xwindows. The smallest linux will run on a 386, 4mi ram and no hdd. Would mandrake run on a p60, 540 mb hd, ? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Revenant Sent: 29 December 2000 10:24 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] basic question Define "faster than windows". Using KDE I've noticed there is quite often a noticable delay waiting for windows to appear - far longer than in windows. Herman Christiani wrote: Hi, Yes, you can and it will run faster then windows, but you forgot to mention the amount of ram? Linux likes it's ram, the more the better. On Fri, 29 Dec 2000, you wrote: Dear all, Can i install mandrake on my (shame) p200mmx 3.3gig machine? will it run apps faster than windoze bloatware? David and Alicia Society Design Mailing List http://www.egroups.com/group/Society_Design For any and all aspects of designing societies, from discussion of real- world utopian ideas to fantastic fictional or roleplaying worlds. ---Revenant [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -- -- == Goldenpi - linux user, unreal editor, programer in 3 languages and all round geek.
Re: [newbie] Why use linux at all? - not heresy, just want astraight answer please
At 03:03 PM 12/29/00 -0500, you wrote: Abraham Mandac wrote: When I was just about getting fed up with how Visual C++ fails to compile simple bits of code, I read somewhere that the best C compilers run under unix [and that sort of includes linux, doesn't it?]. I got LM 7.1 more than 2 months ago, and now I'm still learning to use gcc and cforge, which I just downloaded yesterday. So finally, my learning C++ can now proceed, after that long of being on hold. --Abe Check out Code Crusader for Linux. Not bad... -- Roman Registered Linux User #179293 Hey, thanks. Is it included in the 'Complete' 7.1 distro [I don't think so but then I could have just missed it]? If not, do you have the URL of a good starting point to begin my search? Thanks again -- Abe
Re: [newbie] When the printer goes mad
On Fri, 29 Dec 2000, Barry Premeaux wrote: Hi Barry, Netscape (4.76) just locked up on me and I couldn't kill it from the command line. I went 'su' and opened gtop. If you highlight the process you want to kill, you can do a right mouse click, slide Hmmm... I wonder why I did not think of that. WHen NS goes poof again I always do that (using gps instead of gtop, but the idea is the same). I thought of your print problem and watched the 'lp' print spooler come up on a print job. I believe you could kill the spooler from gtop and then power down the printer to kill what is Definitely something I will remember next time I do something stupid like sending a binary to the printer... Thanks! Paul -- Disclaimer: "These opinions are my own, though for a small fee they can be yours too." http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 7.2 - Pine 4.31
Re: [newbie] Netscape
Herman Christiani wrote: Hi All, Can somebody tell me what is the latest 4.7x version of Netscape? I'm running 4.73, after trying to find a later version I was told by Netscape that I was already running the latest version for my platform (MD 7.1), afaik the latest is 4.76, will this not run on MD 7.1? TIA, Herman 4.76 is the latest
Re: [newbie] Newbie dumb question.....whats a kernel, whats an rpm - clarity mark answers only please
Hello First of all, NO QUESTION IS DUMB, especially in the newbie list ! You are here to learn... :) RPM , redhat package management, a sort of automatic installation system. It contains the files, and info where the files will be put, and also some scripts, that can manage some configurations. All are defined and/or written by the one, who creates the package. Normally, you have a source of a file, and you compile, or, at least, you have binaries, and you manually decide where to put them, etc. Rpm contains (as long as it is not SRPM, that is source rpm) binaries, and does things you need to, automatically, and as they are not sources, they dont take long time to install. Just files are copied. Kernel, actually, is a file small in size (mine is 460K :), but big in use. Kernel is "linux", yes, Mandrake is not a linux, but it is a linux distribution, that is, it is based on linux (the kernel) ! Basically, kernel is responsible for the organization and communication between your computers hardware and your shell (bash,etc), and your shell is responsible for the organization and communication between you and the kernel. You dont have to optimize your kernel, if it is working, and does what you want, leave it there :) Kernel, is a software, so it can be optimized. It can be told to use your pcs advanced architecture, like, a pentium 3 is much better than a 486, but, it is not only because of "how fast" it does jobs, but also it is about "how" it does jobs. Simply, a kernel can be optimized by compiling for the cpu you have. Also, in linux, drivers are kernel based. So, you have an ethernet, or a zip driver, or you want to read the files on a windows partition ? All use drivers, all are in kernel. But, not all are used all the time, so, there should be a way to call them only and only when they are needed, without restarting the system... This is done by the module system. So modules are, drivers. If you make the less-used stuff as modules, and most-used ones in your kernel, your kernel will be smaller, will be busy on less drivers "all the time" , and will work on the modules, only and only when you need them This is optimizing the kernel :) -- Best regards, Onur _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [newbie] Newbie dumb question.....whats a kernel, whats an rpm - clarity mark answers only please
At 30-12-2000 +, you wrote: I'd like to know, can somebody put me straight on why we should be optimising our kernels? what is a kernel? David and Alicia From OReilly Running Linux, page 10 : "The kernel is the guts of the operating system itself; it's the code that controls the interface between user programs and hardware devices, the scheduling of processes to achieve multitasking, and many other aspects of the system. " HTH
Re: [newbie] modem support
On Wednesday 31 December 1969 06:00 pm, chengkenneth wrote: How can I make my PCI(internal) 56K modem function in mandrake 7.1? Most, but not all pci modems are not real modems and won't work with Linux. Find out your modem's make/model number and check it against the list here: (View the entire table link, linmodems.org link) http://www.kcdata.com/~gromitkc/winmodem.html If it is a winmodem I'd suggest replacing it with a real modem. There's several recommended pci internals at the above link. If that's not an option for you, then check the linmodems.org link to see if your winmodem has been supported. Be aware tho, even if you do manage to get it working, it will never perform as well as a real modem. It doesn't even with Windoze. -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
Re: [newbie] SCSI, CD-RW, LS120 Problem
Ended up reinstalling because I wanted to use the entire drive for 7.2 and I hoped it would resolve the cdroms/ls120 configuration problemwhich it did. Now though, X-CD-ROAST starts up saying "Something on the SCSI-Bus has changed. Please check your writer and reader configuration in Setup.' I click Ok, the prompt goes away and then nothing. The program never starts allowing me to get into Setup. The other CDBURNER apps. seem to be working so I guess I just need to reinstall X-CD-ROAST. It may not like my LS-120 being hda now. It worked when it was hdc. (More questions than answers is the way I go through Life) Jeff On Sat, 30 Dec 2000, Paul wrote: On Fri, 29 Dec 2000, Jeffrey Norris wrote: In Xcdroast, did you try redetecting the SCSI devices? Paul I changed the locations of my CD-RW and LS-120 drives and now the system thinks the LS-120 is my CD-RW. When I do a 'cdrecord -scanbus', it list the Matshita LS-120 on 'scsibus0 as a removable drive. And when I start X-CD-ROAST, it only shows the LS-120 as a device (it worked before). I assume I need the change something in the '/etc/lilo.conf' or something ? I can read from both my CDROM drives (from the desktop prompts), but I can't set the CD-RW up to record and I can't access the LS120. Any help would be appreciated. I've been trying to figure this out for half the day.
Re: [newbie] gcc tutorial
Abraham Mandac wrote: Can someone point me to a gcc tutorial [on the internet or a good book]? I find the man pages a bit overwhelming as yet. Thanks, Abe go to http://www.howstuffworks.com/ on their search engine, type in 'c programming'. that will lead you to their c tutorial, which is based on gcc running on unix/linux. aston sydney, australia
Re: [newbie] O'Reilly book
On Saturday 30 December 2000 10:47, you wrote: The latest edition of O'Reilly's 'Running Linux' is the second edition, right? Just want to be absolutely sure before I go out to get it. Thanks -- Abe The current latest and greatest edition is the third. I have the second edition, I believe the third edition has expanded coverage about X/KDE/Gnome -- Alex (Go easy on me, I'm a COBOL programmer in real life)
Re: [newbie] O'Reilly book
Abraham Mandac wrote: The latest edition of O'Reilly's 'Running Linux' is the second edition, right? No Abe, the current edition is "Third", Its bigger an dmore current. I've almost worn mine out. -- Jim James Mellema, CRNA It's the end of the millennium. Do you have your helmet on? Linux User #71650
Re: [newbie] Newbie dumb question.....whats a kernel, whats an rpm
On Sat, 30 Dec 2000, David and Alicia wrote: I'd like to know, can somebody put me straight on why we should be optimising our kernels? what is a kernel? David and Alicia Hi David and Alicia, Let's see. The kernel. This is the heart of the operating system. It is a file you can find in the /boot directory: [paul@internet piks]$ ls -l /boot drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Nov 18 13:16 grub/ -rw-r--r--1 root root 431 Nov 11 21:07 kernel.h lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 20 Nov 11 21:07 vmlinuz - vmlinuz-2.2.17-21mdk -rw-r--r--1 root root 665029 Oct 5 13:24 vmlinuz-2.2.17-21mdk (I snipped out a lot of things here). The kernel is loaded when you boot Linux. That is like the IO.SYS and CONFIG.SYS of MS-DOS (if that means anything), but more extensive. It is what makes Linux work. It loads basic handling of input and output (screen, keyboard) and then goes on to load other things like scsi support, ISDN support if needed, things like that. (Sort of like autoexec.bat in MSDOS again, but here also: more extensive) Sometimes a kernel does not have support for a certain piece of hardware (like ISDN, SCSI, ZIP drives, certain special harddisks etc.). That is when you have to decide whether you want to rebuild the kernel so it has the support for your stuff, or if you can do with loading things afterwards, the "loadable modules". In my /etc/rc.d/rc.local file a few of these things are loaded: # This loads proper support for the old ISDN card: modprobe hisax io=0x180 irq=10 type=3 protocol=2 id=line0 # This loads the SCSI/IDE interface for the IDE CDburner so it is seen as SCSI: modprobe ide-scsi If I were to take the hard road, I can futz around with the kernel so it has builtin everything that I need. But the modules load so fast that I can't be bothered. Optimizing a kernel means putting in what you need, and taking out what you don't need. If you want a mean, lean system, tuned to the max, you can eliminate ZIPDISK support if you don't have a zipdrive, take out all kinds of things. But you have to know what is what. Since I am too lazy to look that up, and my machinery runs fine WITH everything, why should I bother. "It ain't broke, so no need to fix it." Optimizing can also mean not to use the kernel as compiled for a basic pentium (i586), but compile it specifically for your Pentium II or III, or your Athlon K6-MMX processor. But that's up to the people who like that. So you do not HAVE to optimize your kernel. An RPM file is a file used with the Redhat Package Manager. Redhat, where Mandrake is based on, developed an easier way for people to install and deinstall programs. Not everyone is handy in compiling and linking sourcecode. So they invented a package format called RPM, which contains all the files you need for the program, and which also checks if the needed support libraries for running the program are on your system. Not there? Then RPM issues a messages and does not install a non-funcional program. You can then locate the needed support libraries (http://rpmfind.net), install those (through RPM :) and then you go on installing the program you want. Since RPM maintains a database that knows what programs are installed, it is easy to check if you have a program installed. RPM as a program is not handy to use in some cases, so Mandrake supplies a set of graphical interfaces to that. Kpackage and RPMdrake are the best ones. In those, you just click at a .RPM file you downloaded, click 'install', and your click will be done. In these programs you can also find what is installed, and uninstalling is as easy as "point what has to go" and tell it to go. I hope this makes things clear! Paul -- Veni, Vidi, Vi http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 7.2 - Pine 4.31
Re: [newbie] gcc tutorial
Abraham Mandac wrote: Can someone point me to a gcc tutorial [on the internet or a good book]? I find the man pages a bit overwhelming as yet. Thanks, Abe Hello Abe, I found a lot of good books through a good web page at: http:/www.informit.com They allow you to review portions of the book before purchasing. One example is: Tom Swan's GNU C++ for Linux Check out: http://gcc.gnu.org/ and gnu.g++.help newsgroup By the way, which compiler are you using? -- Roman Registered Linux User #179293
Re: [newbie] Ram seen in 7.2
On Saturday 30 December 2000 02:27 pm, you wrote: On Fri, 29 Dec 2000, Dennis Myers wrote: only showing 64mg I have added the append = "mem=128" to lilo.conf but it does not seem to have made a difference to what the control center Did you remember to run lilo as a command after the change? (You need to do this as root). That will fix it. Paul I did that and still no joy, so I went back a put the amend statement just before all the image statements and now it shows up in sys info, gtop, everywhere it should , thanks for the help. I love it, we're still learning here. -- Dennis M. Registered Linux user #180842
[newbie] Partitions
I just reinstalled 7.2 (actually a couple of times) and now when I boot I'm getting all of these different entries in the loader. Such as 'oldwindows', 'oldlinux' etc. I have reinstalled before and didn't get all of that. Is there a way to rewrite the boot record so that it is as it was before ? Without risking the C: drive access...still have my finances in Windows. Thanks
Re: [newbie] Newbie dumb question.....whats a kernel, whats an rpm - clarity mark answers only please
On Saturday 30 December 2000 02:25 pm, David and Alicia wrote: I'd like to know, can somebody put me straight on why we should be optimising our kernels? what is a kernel? What is a 'clarity mark answer'? Please post in plain ASCII text. It's the number one rule for this and most all mailing lists. http://mandrakeuser.org/install/kupgrade.html will explain why, how, and what's needed for various ways to upgrade your kernel. Your kernel is the basic core of the OS (it is in Windoze too) that all other processes run under. With GNU/Linux, Linux is the kernel, GNU is everything else (sort'a ;) As to optimising, for most all users, on most all hardware, little or no benefit will be gained from compiling a custom kernel, and if you're not careful, you will break Mandrake specific features. That said I still believe all users will benfit from learning how to, and then compiling a kernel from source, just for the experience. It's also a fairly good test of your hardware. http://www.rpmdp.org/rpmbook/ an online book, and is a great place to learn all about rpm's and using them. -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
[newbie] NVIDIA
Hey, I'm wondering about this subject as well. I've a Diamond Viper 770D with 32MB RAM, using the Riva TnT 2[v5] module. Till yesterday, I was running some "Other" module, but I'd reset the Riva in drakcomf had also installed the glide files from CD. Some games are now fine, but others either go beyond the desktop, are still slow, or (in one case) crash my whole system. Would the nvidia kernel fix this, or maybe a different module...? Meph -- "I did this 'cause Linux gives me a woody." -Dave '-ddt-' Taylor, announcing DOOM for Linux
Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux
Ah - good one!! goldenpi wrote: I heard rumers. Perhaps microsoft has realised people can use f8 to get to dos and want to remove that so they can chage $10,000 to send a repair man with a boot disk over when it goes wrong. On Thu, 28 Dec 2000, you wrote: There's an update to Millennium coming out later this year. I think it's name is Whistler. goldenpi wrote: Give it time. I have just seen windows millenium and I can assure you it will not last. It is awful. It is slow. It takes up half my hard drive and then its optional parts take the rest. And it doesn't work. Windows 2k however is here to stay. I haven't seen it running but I have heard of it. On Tue, 26 Dec 2000, you wrote: - Original Message - From: David Raleigh Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2000 5:17 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux I am locked into bad mouse support by 2-button mouse users. Linux mouse support is hardly configurable at all. I have seen the sawfish mouse dialog. Ridiculous. Very true indeed. Kde should build a special mouse driver for mice that have a scrol wheel and side buttons. Mine has four buttons and a scroll wheel. And the people who make the mice should write software for linux also. After all there are a lot of people using linux today. I feel that if every one using linux sent email to the logitech company asking for drivers/software for there products then they might do something about it. i just bought a new printer, a lexmark Z32 because they have drivers for linux. And the Z52 has drivers for linux also. My mouse is a ms intelli mouse explorer and whith the software for windoze I can get the buttons to do what ever I want them to do, and I can change the icons as well. But I bought it because it does not have a ball in it and can use it as either ps2 or usb. I also feel that linux should have surport for IDE CD Burners, not just SCSI. Regards Anthony Daniell -- == Goldenpi - linux user, unreal editor, programer in 3 languages and all round geek. -- Roman Registered Linux User #179293 -- == Goldenpi - linux user, unreal editor, programer in 3 languages and all round geek.
Re: [newbie] O'Reilly book
Abraham Mandac wrote: The latest edition of O'Reilly's 'Running Linux' is the second edition, right? Just want to be absolutely sure before I go out to get it. Thanks -- Abe That's the one I am using. You can always check with O'Reilly's. -- Roman Registered Linux User #179293
[newbie] Wrong shut down
Hallo!! I've got a problem. I've reinstalled because of a problem with Corel Photo Paint 9 and now the system is not shuting down. It stops/shuts some services and then the following appears: INIT:no more processes left in this runlevel And it remains there 8-? Thanks!! -- Joan Tur. Ibiza - Spain [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 11407395 Joan.Tur.pagina.de www.ClubIbosim.org Linux: usuari registrat 190.783
Re: [newbie] Why use linux at all? - not heresy, just wantastraight answer please
Abraham Mandac wrote: At 03:03 PM 12/29/00 -0500, you wrote: Abraham Mandac wrote: When I was just about getting fed up with how Visual C++ fails to compile simple bits of code, I read somewhere that the best C compilers run under unix [and that sort of includes linux, doesn't it?]. I got LM 7.1 more than 2 months ago, and now I'm still learning to use gcc and cforge, which I just downloaded yesterday. So finally, my learning C++ can now proceed, after that long of being on hold. --Abe Check out Code Crusader for Linux. Not bad... -- Roman Registered Linux User #179293 Hey, thanks. Is it included in the 'Complete' 7.1 distro [I don't think so but then I could have just missed it]? If not, do you have the URL of a good starting point to begin my search? Thanks again -- Abe I'm not 100% sure about this one. I am using mdk7.2. While in mdk7.1, I used Code Commander. However, I went directly to the original web page and downloaded the program. The link is shown below: http://www.newplanetsoftware.com/jcc/ Check out the Gnome project page. Code Commander has been renamed Glimmer for mdk7.2. Here's another link: http://www.gnome.org/applist/listrecent.php3?category_query=Development%20Tools Good Luck and Happy New Year! Roman Registered Linux User #179293
Re: [newbie] Kernel Source
Hey Riker, I'm taking my first stab at messing with the Kernel. Such as recompiling and then I'm going to compile a new kernel. The problem I'm having now is that the kernel source wasn't installed during the install. Is there a way to install the source kernel so I can do things such as `make xconfig' and the like? I may be recompiling soon because I'm wiping my W2k replacing it with W98, so I had to install the kernel the kernel headers too. I don't remember reading if lm7.0 or 7.1 (don't know which version you have, I came from RH to lm7.2) has drakconf (think so, though). Anyway, if you ~do~ have drakconf, open it use the Software Update icon. In there, you set it to read from CD (or, you can get it from one of the mirrors), choose both the kernel source kernel headers (can't remember if the headers are actually needed for recompiling. I'm pretty sure, but they don't take all that much space some apps will need them if you install from tar). Then, just go to the directory where they install to start your make xconfig. Meph -- "I did this 'cause Linux gives me a woody." -Dave '-ddt-' Taylor, announcing DOOM for Linux
Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux
Windows 98 doesn't run on 166Mhz, the install program doesn't allow the install. Mark Hillary - Original Message - From: "goldenpi" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2000 3:08 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux Look at this number sequence: 512k 1m 4m 8m 32m see how quickly it goes up? They are the memory requirements for windows. dos would word with 512k. windows 3.11 needed 4 meg. windows 95 needed 8 meg. Windows 98 needed 32Meg. Whistler will need so much people will have to buy more. And look at processers: dos : 8086 win3.11 : 80286 win95 : 80386 win98 : unknown win me : 166MHz thats enough that I managed to fty my laptop processor when I tried to overclock it and run windows me. It cost £25 for a new pentium 166. On Fri, 29 Dec 2000, you wrote: Romanator wrote: Revenant wrote: Clarification: Millenium is MS eking the last $$$ it can out of the dying Win9x OS. Whistler will be what Win2000 was supposed to be - the fusion of the NT line with the Win9x line. It is supposed to be a very different beast to the Win9x line, including ME... Have you noticed that the OS is getting bigger and bigger? They are pushing our resources to their limits. shrug Our resource limits are increasing. Most software aims to take maximum advantage of the hardware available. Now that the industry standard machine is a PIII, I'd be disappointed if the OS didn't have additional functionality. That said, Windows *does* seem to have more than its fair share of bloat... Society Design Mailing List http://www.egroups.com/group/Society_Design For any and all aspects of designing societies, from discussion of real- world utopian ideas to fantastic fictional or roleplaying worlds. ---Revenant [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -- -- == Goldenpi - linux user, unreal editor, programer in 3 languages and all round geek.
[newbie] Copy from Konsole?
I am learning to compile using the NHF on compiling software. I am getting an error and would like to be able to cut and paste to file or save the output to file, but there are no options that I can find to do this. As usual, any help will be appreciated. Go Broncos, beat the Ravens!! Jerold
Re: [newbie] SCSI, CD-RW, LS120 Problem
On Sun, 31 Dec 2000, Jeffrey Norris wrote: Ended up reinstalling because I wanted to use the entire drive for 7.2 and I hoped it would resolve the cdroms/ls120 configuration problemwhich it did. Now though, X-CD-ROAST starts up saying "Something on the SCSI-Bus has changed. Please check your writer and reader configuration in Setup.' I click Ok, the prompt goes away and then nothing. The program never starts allowing me to get into Setup. The other CDBURNER apps. seem to be working so I guess I just need to reinstall X-CD-ROAST. It may not like my LS-120 being hda now. It worked when it was hdc. Weird... I wish I could help you more but I am lost from here on... Good luck, I hope you get it running! Paul -- Veni, Vidi, Vi http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 7.2 - Pine 4.31
Re: [newbie] Newbie dumb question.....whats a kernel, whats an rpm - clarity mark answers only please
At 20:25 30/12/2000, you wrote: I'd like to know, can somebody put me straight on why we should be optimising our kernels? what is a kernel? David and Alicia Assuming this is not a wind-up. The kernel is the "guts" of the operating systems. This is the software that makes the computer come alive and allows other bits of software called "applications", which we as users interact with. The kernal software provides functions which allows application softaware to access hard disks, the internet or draw pictures on your vdu screen. Since the kernel is doing all this on behalf of all the applictions that are running on your computer it is a good idea for it to be very efficient in what it does. Optimisation is a method of building the kernel through a process called compilation that makes the resulant kernl software smaller (so it uses less memory) and also runs faster. When one is actually developing software that will be part of the kernel or work very intimately with the kernel, one may have a version of kernel which contains software that will help in debugging and developing these types of software, thus in that case one will be running a non-optimised kernel. -- Dev
[newbie] Copy from Konsole?
I am learning to compile using the NHF on compiling software. I am getting an error and would like to be able to cut and paste to file or save the output to file, but there are no options that I can find to do this. As usual, any help will be appreciated. Go Broncos, beat the Ravens!! Jerold
[newbie] zip driver permissions
Dear All, I have Linux-Mandrake 7.2 and I had my internal Atapi zip drive supermounted and it was working fine until recently. As user all of a sudden I cannot copy a file into my zip. I can take them out and place them unto my desktop but I cannot place a file into my zip. As root I can do it but not as user. It was working fine until a week ago and I did nothing to change it. What do I need to do manually in either fstab or through Linuxconf to make this work for user again? I have attached a screenshot of my fstab file. I have tried changing permissions with chmod, Linuxconf,etc. and nothing has worked. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Marcia
[newbie] Login/font problems
Happy 7th day of Christmas! (7 penguins a swimming?) The message I sent earlier this morning has not yet appeared, so hear is some more information on the same problems. The Linux login works almost to the end. The last entry I can read says : Running Linuxconf hooks Then something about fonts skips past as the Aurora screen is cleared for the Login Window. The screen goes black, then some colours flicker across the top half in no coherent shape, and then I am back at the text prompt, the first two lines of which read: INIT: Switching to runlevel: 3 INIT: Sending processes the TERM signal Things just sit there, and when I do the Vulcan nerve pinch (Ctrl-Alt-Del) it goes back to Aurora, with the entry X Font Server marked with an orange X (all the other entries ahve green checks) and finishes off with a reboot back to Lilo. From Lilo, choosing the 'failsafe' boot, Text option gets me to the login prompt /root, and when I enter 'startx' (I read that somehwere) I get more output than I can possible read in the time it is displayed, ending with the following: ---snip--- _FontTransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect errno = 111 failed to set default font path 'unix/:-1' Fatal server error could not open default font 'fixed' When reporting a problem related to a server crash, please send the full server output, not just the last messages X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown) ---snip--- 1. How can I fix this from the terminal? 2. How can I capture the whole of the 'server output?' Thank you for your help, Kipling+
Re: [newbie] How do I run a Windows Program in Linux?
Hi Tom and Onur, (Thanks for the tip Onur - sometimes GUI progs are best when just starting off, but I'm getting the hang of the commandline now and prefer it - most the time g) Say, can I type ? or help... at the prompt and get a list of commands? to find anything with 'wine' in it, you start a terminal and type 'locate wine' (w/o the 's). To find just the binary, you'd type 'whereis wine' This is assuming you leave your computer running overnight so that cron updates you files. If you don't you might need to run (as root) 'locate -u' or 'updatedb' (your choice, they both do the same thing). Thanks! I did find out about whereis from a friend trying to get a PERL script to run to fix the problem of not seeing my last partion in Windows. I hope where the Installation Problems page at Mandrake says (D:\) or second partition to be seen/fixed it means the last drive as well. So, far no luck, but I have somebody helping with that. Anyway, PERL and wine was found right away with whereis and not like my friend said that it might take a very long time and suggest another command for a text file output. It appears you imply that it might take hours as well. Linux cam back with both PERL and Wine lickity-split. then do I click on a wine gear wheel to run it, or is it like commandline driven: locate wine run /application/notetab pro.exe? g You need to read the wine docs, but in your example, if wine is setup to recongnize where your partitions are (wine.conf or .winerc), then 'wine notetab\ pro' run while in notetab's directory (might) run notetab pro.exe I have both the above files and just wine. I seems to not being seeing all my extensions and perhaps not all files and folder though, because when I do say whereis perl and wine: [root@localhost /root]# whereis perl perl: /usr/bin/perl /usr/share/man/man1/perl.1.bz2 [root@localhost /root]# whereis wine wine: /etc/wine.conf /usr/X11R6/bin/wine /usr/bin/X11/wine I do not see a /usr/bin/perl nor a /usr/share/ It only goes to /usr/bin with a /X11/ in it. Don't know where a show all setting is. As I posted before, wine docs, manual, etc. can be found at: http://wine.codeweavers.com/ or on your HDD if it's installed. OK, I will certainly check. For some odd reason the Search in my Linux Help docs does not work. I can click and read, etc., but that is very time consuming especially when one does not know what he is looking for. :-) Does this list always have a 12-24hr lag in posts being received? Thanks! Jody Clean-Funnies: click and send... mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=Subscribe
RE: [newbie] test ignore
test post ignore -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Hillary Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2000 10:11 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux Windows 98 doesn't run on 166Mhz, the install program doesn't allow the install. Mark Hillary - Original Message - From: "goldenpi" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2000 3:08 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux Look at this number sequence: 512k 1m 4m 8m 32m see how quickly it goes up? They are the memory requirements for windows. dos would word with 512k. windows 3.11 needed 4 meg. windows 95 needed 8 meg. Windows 98 needed 32Meg. Whistler will need so much people will have to buy more. And look at processers: dos : 8086 win3.11 : 80286 win95 : 80386 win98 : unknown win me : 166MHz thats enough that I managed to fty my laptop processor when I tried to overclock it and run windows me. It cost £25 for a new pentium 166. On Fri, 29 Dec 2000, you wrote: Romanator wrote: Revenant wrote: Clarification: Millenium is MS eking the last $$$ it can out of the dying Win9x OS. Whistler will be what Win2000 was supposed to be - the fusion of the NT line with the Win9x line. It is supposed to be a very different beast to the Win9x line, including ME... Have you noticed that the OS is getting bigger and bigger? They are pushing our resources to their limits. shrug Our resource limits are increasing. Most software aims to take maximum advantage of the hardware available. Now that the industry standard machine is a PIII, I'd be disappointed if the OS didn't have additional functionality. That said, Windows *does* seem to have more than its fair share of bloat... Society Design Mailing List http://www.egroups.com/group/Society_Design For any and all aspects of designing societies, from discussion of real- world utopian ideas to fantastic fictional or roleplaying worlds. ---Revenant [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -- -- == Goldenpi - linux user, unreal editor, programer in 3 languages and all round geek.
RE: [newbie] expletive deleted gets Linux
[ please note the change in subject line as per Roman's request! ;-) ] -Original Message- From: goldenpi Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2000 7:01 AM In other words, nothing will work. Anything that would not work under nt will In other words, nothing will work. ... Lots of things will work but certain *some* things will not. ...Anything that would not work under nt will nt work under whistler. Then m$ can start chargeing for all sorts of unneeded patches. This may or may not be true per given situation. Certainly a lot of stuff will break. But starting with Win2K Microsoft has worked at making the NT code base "friendlier" to a lot more Win95 apps (read games!). That has continued with Whistler as well. Now - DOS type apps on the other hand... Let's all just spit into a high wind while covering ourselves with sack cloth and ashes bemoaning the fact that there's no CP/M for the latest round of hardware. Life goes on - technology advances - some things become obsolete - life goes on. Get over it! As for an earlier comment on the removal of using F8 during boot. Not to worry, it's still there as far as I know. The big thing is that it's not announced on the screen. Cheers Rick
Re: [newbie] Gimp xscanimage
On Saturday 30 December 2000 15:51, you wrote: Hallo!! I've got a scanner and i load it's module whenever i want to use it. The problem is that i have to scan using xscanimage because under Gimp the option adquire shows only "screen shot" 8-? What else do i have to do? Thanks!! I assume xscanimage is installed correctly. You can check this as follows: Open a terminal window and type xscanimage. Because xscanimage is a gimp plug-in it will answer with xscanimage is a gimp plug-in and must be run by the gimp to be used. However the program will start. In order to use it as a gimp plug in you have to create a symbolic link to the program and your gimp plug-in directory as follows: ln -s /usr/bin/xscanimge /home/your_name/.gimp-1.1/plug-ins The directory .gimp-1.1 is a hidden directory and therefore the leading . is important. The name may vary a little and depends of the version of the gimp you use. Personally I prefer a program called xsane. You can find it in the development directory at the mandrake ftp mirrors, e.g. ftp.ciril.fr/pub/linux/mandrake-devel/contrib/RPMS Best regards Herman Jalink [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] Kernel Sanders
Just wondering, Is there any books on how to optimize and compile the Linux kernel? if any one knows pls let me know, and also how can I upgrade a kernel let's say from 2.1 to 2.4 ? Your replies will be greatly appreciated! Thank you!
Re: [newbie] Why use linux at all? - not heresy, just want a straight answer please
Its also more stable ebcause a small crash in windows will take the system with it. Under linux the same small crash will take down the application but will leave everything else untouched. If you accidentially put your program into an endless loop you can just switch console and kill it. - Original Message - From: Revenant [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2000 12:37 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Why use linux at all? - not heresy, just want a straight answer please Tom Brinkman wrote: On Friday 29 December 2000 04:41 am, David and Alicia wrote: ok, here is the real question: why do people try running linux?, the impression i had gathered was that it was a lighter os and could be used on older machines, (i386 etc). I was a little dismayed when i saw the download size. How much disk space will a bare install need? From zero (you can run Linux on a floppy) to as much as you care to let it have. Keep in mind that only the kernel is Linux, everything else is (GNU) applications and the various configs, libraries, etc, that they need. Read /. and you'll hear of people running Linux on a wristwatch ;) Some bloke got it going on a Dreamcast too. My reasons for running Linux: (1) It's free (as in beer, not speech). And not just the OS, but the software. The GIMP alone saves you $1,000+ over using Photoshop. (2) It's free (as in speech, not beer). (3) "It's more stable". In my experience, what this has meant is that the OS won't glitch or die on you for no discernable reason - but it can and will glitch or die on you for reasons that are obscure at best to the newbie. Essentially, Linux will let you into its guts to fix the problem when something goes wrong while Windows doesn't. I hope to learn enough to take advantage of that. Society Design Mailing List http://www.egroups.com/group/Society_Design For any and all aspects of designing societies, from discussion of real- world utopian ideas to fantastic fictional or roleplaying worlds. ---Revenant [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] --
[newbie] Kernel Sanders 2
Does anyone know where I can get the latest Kernel (which is 2.4) as RPM?
Re: [newbie] Why use linux at all? - not heresy, just want a straightanswer please
Hi Paul, David and Alicia, The answer is yes and no, the p60 is a pentium, but from the p133 or p166 onwards(not fully sure about this) they changed the internal architecture of the cpu, also a p60 is not really more powerfull then let say a 486DX100. Have a happy New Year, Herman Paul wrote: On Sat, 30 Dec 2000, Herman Christiani wrote: David and Alicia Would mandrake run on a p60, 540 mb hd, ? Hi, Not likely, Mandrake needs a Pentium to run well, you are better off with something like Red Hat 5.2 for this machine. Hello Herman, P60 stands for Pentium 60. So it would work. Paul -- Disclaimer: "These opinions are my own, though for a small fee they can be yours too." http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 7.2 - Pine 4.31
Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux
I installed 98 after melting my P200MMX in the laptop. I just wanted to get it up to 166. It should have worked but I didn't know the core voltage was too high. I thought it was just a cooling problem and tried to fix it by stuffing the heatsink with thermal paste. I ended up buying a p166 with my birthday money and that will do 166 easy. So now I have bindows 98 on it. I want to put on mandrake 7.1 but the hard drive is only 1 gig. I need 98 for school. They insist I use a popular word processor and that means word. Soon as I get enough for a bigger drive its getting linux. - Original Message - From: Mark Hillary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2000 5:11 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux Windows 98 doesn't run on 166Mhz, the install program doesn't allow the install. Mark Hillary - Original Message - From: "goldenpi" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2000 3:08 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux Look at this number sequence: 512k 1m 4m 8m 32m see how quickly it goes up? They are the memory requirements for windows. dos would word with 512k. windows 3.11 needed 4 meg. windows 95 needed 8 meg. Windows 98 needed 32Meg. Whistler will need so much people will have to buy more. And look at processers: dos : 8086 win3.11 : 80286 win95 : 80386 win98 : unknown win me : 166MHz thats enough that I managed to fty my laptop processor when I tried to overclock it and run windows me. It cost £25 for a new pentium 166. On Fri, 29 Dec 2000, you wrote: Romanator wrote: Revenant wrote: Clarification: Millenium is MS eking the last $$$ it can out of the dying Win9x OS. Whistler will be what Win2000 was supposed to be - the fusion of the NT line with the Win9x line. It is supposed to be a very different beast to the Win9x line, including ME... Have you noticed that the OS is getting bigger and bigger? They are pushing our resources to their limits. shrug Our resource limits are increasing. Most software aims to take maximum advantage of the hardware available. Now that the industry standard machine is a PIII, I'd be disappointed if the OS didn't have additional functionality. That said, Windows *does* seem to have more than its fair share of bloat... Society Design Mailing List http://www.egroups.com/group/Society_Design For any and all aspects of designing societies, from discussion of real- world utopian ideas to fantastic fictional or roleplaying worlds. ---Revenant [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -- -- == Goldenpi - linux user, unreal editor, programer in 3 languages and all round geek.
Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux
Mark Hillary wrote: Windows 98 doesn't run on 166Mhz, the install program doesn't allow the install. Simply not true. It ran on mine till I erased it in favor of Mandrake 6.0. Gene
Re: [newbie] Why use linux at all? - not heresy, just want a straight answer please
Win95 will run on a 386. I dont know if it will install on a 386 through. I once had 95 running on a 386 with 8 mi ram. I got the hard drive second hand with windows on it. Then I just had to put it in and turn on. - Original Message - From: Mark Hillary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2000 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Why use linux at all? - not heresy, just want a straight answer please My install of mandrake 7.2 with KDE2 and stuff was about 400Mb. 400Mb, for 400mb I had a system that booted into a GUI (KDE), and office package and a second word prossecer (Koffice and abiword). Loads of games and internet stuff. Compare that to windows for 300mb you can install a bear system, then add office on that and all of the other little programs that you like and you can see that for systems of comparable usablity that linux is smaller. You have to remember that linux is a network and develporer OS so when you look at that download size you have to realise that there are loads of develpoment tools (devel libaries), server programs (Aphace), and loads of other times that the normal desktop user will never need. The other reasons for using it is that it is more stable (as long as your not a kernel developer or such like), and to be free of the closed source compaines (Its that moral bit). Also if you want to see the insides of your system you can do that. When you read things saying linux can be run on i386's you have to remember that when refering to linux you are talking about the kernel, and yes the kernel (and other programs) can be run on a i386 but not all of them. Linux is great for reusing old bits of hardware, setting up firewalls or just a computer that you can attach extra stuff to. It is great for stuff like that. With win 98 the install program won't even allow it to be installed on a P166. Any I will stop rambering now Mark Hillary - Original Message - From: "Romanator" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 29, 2000 7:58 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Why use linux at all? - not heresy, just want a straight answer please Paul wrote: ok, here is the real question: why do people try running linux?, the impression i had gathered was that it was a lighter os and could be used on older machines, (i386 etc). I was a little dismayed when i saw the download size. How much disk space will a bare install need? David and Alicia Hi, Most people that 'try' running linux have probably not read enough about it to know what is possible and how to do it. Millions of people run Linux and are happy with it. Progress is made in all areas, in the development of linux, Windows, and hardware. If the hardware gets more potent, then the OS's of that timeframe will grow along with that. You can indeed run Linux on a 386, but you can not expect to take all the advantages of the new OS-technology using old hardware-technology. Mandrake is optimized for Pentium class processors, not i386. Redhat is compiled for i386, and when you use RH5.2 (from which, if I am not mistaken, Mandrake originated) or RH6.0, that will run nicely on an I386. You can not install everything, but a basic system with some Xwindow support should be possible on your specs of i386 with 540mb. Even with 8 megs of RAM, this should function. (Not 'run', but 'walk'.) Compare what you need for a basic mandrake installation with a bare Xwindow system, and windows95, and you may not find much difference. Using Linux made me microsoft independent, free of blue screens of death, DLL's in all forms and shapes and versions, an uninterpretable registry file, and the power to influence the system and repair it when it breaks down. Windows does not let me do that. If you seek the ease of windows, being taken by the hand by wizards which make all the decisions for you, then windows is what you want. If you want to be able to use your computer by what you put in it yourself, then you can go with Linux. (My expression of thoughts entirely of course.) Paul Good ol' DLLS. Once of the major causes of many Windows crashes. -- Roman Registered Linux User #179293
Re: [newbie] zip driver permissions
Hey Marcia, Try this line: /mnt/zip /mnt/zip supermount fs=vfat,dev=/dev/zip 0 0 Dear All, I have Linux-Mandrake 7.2 and I had my internal Atapi zip drive supermounted and it was working fine until recently. As user all of a sudden I cannot copy a file into my zip. I can take them out and place them unto my desktop but I cannot place a file into my zip. As root I can do it but not as user. It was working fine until a week ago and I did nothing to change it. What do I need to do manually in either fstab or through Linuxconf to make this work for user again? I have attached a screenshot of my fstab file. I have tried changing permissions with chmod, Linuxconf,etc. and nothing has worked. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Marcia Meph -- "I did this 'cause Linux gives me a woody." -Dave '-ddt-' Taylor, announcing DOOM for Linux
[newbie] segmentation fault
Hi, I was running netscape 4.76.0x on my LM 7.1 system and netscape crashed. Now when trying to run netscape I get a "segementation fault (core dumped) message. I uninstalled the netscape RPMs and installed the 4.76.3x version from rpmfind.net in the LM dir. Both common and communicator RPMs installed fine, but I _still_ get the segmentation fault when trying to start netscape. Any advice on what a segmentation fault is and how I can fix it? Or do I need to reinstall linux? Thanks. --Kevin
RE: [newbie] Newbie dumb question.....whats a kernel, whats an rpm - clarity mark answers only please
Definitely not a wind up question, I'm just new to all of this. Thanks for your reply Dev David and Alicia -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dev Sen Sent: 31 December 2000 18:45 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Newbie dumb question.whats a kernel, whats an rpm - clarity mark answers only please At 20:25 30/12/2000, you wrote: I'd like to know, can somebody put me straight on why we should be optimising our kernels? what is a kernel? David and Alicia Assuming this is not a wind-up. The kernel is the "guts" of the operating systems. This is the software that makes the computer come alive and allows other bits of software called "applications", which we as users interact with. The kernal software provides functions which allows application softaware to access hard disks, the internet or draw pictures on your vdu screen. Since the kernel is doing all this on behalf of all the applictions that are running on your computer it is a good idea for it to be very efficient in what it does. Optimisation is a method of building the kernel through a process called compilation that makes the resulant kernl software smaller (so it uses less memory) and also runs faster. When one is actually developing software that will be part of the kernel or work very intimately with the kernel, one may have a version of kernel which contains software that will help in debugging and developing these types of software, thus in that case one will be running a non-optimised kernel. -- Dev
Re: [newbie] How do I run a Windows Program in Linux?
On Sunday 31 December 2000 01:09 pm, Jody wrote: This is assuming you leave your computer running overnight so that cron updates you files. If you don't you might need to run (as root) 'locate -u' or 'updatedb' (your choice, they both do the same thing). It appears you imply that it might take hours as well. Linux cam back with both PERL and Wine lickity-split. No, I only meant that if you're in the habit of shutting your system off, some cron jobs might not keep up. Usual installs have cron jobs set up to run hourly, daily, monthly look at the /etc/cron.'s EG, /etc/cron.daily/slocate or /etc/cron.monthly/0anacron Also, 'locate' and 'whereis' won't find something you just installed. You need to update the slocate database using 'locate -u' or 'updatedb', then they will. . and like you say, instantly. Much quicker than 'find' will. -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
Re: [newbie] Partitions
On Sun, 31 Dec 2000, Jeffrey Norris wrote: I just reinstalled 7.2 (actually a couple of times) and now when I boot I'm getting all of these different entries in the loader. Such as 'oldwindows', 'oldlinux' etc. I have reinstalled before and didn't get all of that. Is there a way to rewrite the boot record so that it is as it was before ? Without risking the C: drive access...still have my finances in Windows. These things are remainders from all your installs. Entries in grub's menu.lst or lilo.conf. Has nothing to do with the bootrecord of your harddisk :) Perhaps with the other reinstalls you also formatted the partitions, and now you did not do that? Paul -- Veni, Vidi, Vi http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 7.2 - Pine 4.31
[newbie] install netsaint
Does anyone know how to install netsaint ? i couldn't found the rpm of netsaint in linux mandrake disc if someone know please tell me thanks __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/
[newbie] boot errors
Hi there, I am unsing Linux Mandrake 7.2, each time I load, I get the following messages in /var/log/messages: modprobe: Can't locate module char-major-4 last message repeated 67 times PAM_unix[1031]: (system-auth) session opened for user root by (uid=0) modprobe: Can't locate module binfmt- modprobe: Can't locate module binfmt- modprobe: Can't locate module sound-slot-1 modprobe: Can't locate module sound-services-1-0 modprobe: Can't locate module sound-slot-1 modprobe: Can't locate module sound-services-1-0 modprobe: Can't locate module char-major-108 My ESS-Solo-1 sound cards however works fine, either with mp3 files or with CDs. I wonder if I should take heed of these message or if they are not important. Thanks Michel Hardy _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
Re: [newbie] Copy from Konsole?
On Sunday 31 December 2000 12:49 pm, Jerold Von Hemel wrote: I am learning to compile using the NHF on compiling software. I am getting an error and would like to be able to cut and paste to file or save the output to file, but there are no options that I can find to do this. As usual, any help will be appreciated. Hi-lite the text in the terminal you want to copy. You can do this by clickhold down the left mouse button while sliding across the text, either backwards or forwards. Then you can paste it with Crl+V or by clicking both mouse buttons together (or middle button on a 3 button mouse). In some applications you can hold down the Shift key and use the arrow keys -- -- to hi-lite text. In a few apps, copying just isn't possible. To copy a CL output to a text file, use ''. EG, to copy the output of 'dmesg' to a txt file you'd type 'dmesg dmesg.txt' This creates a file, 'dmesg.txt' in the dir you're in. In some apps it's possible to 'print to a file', ie, redirect output to a file rather than the printer. There's some apps that this just isn't possible ... then you're SOL ; -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
[newbie] Re: Printer Error
Paul stated the following: On Fri, 29 Dec 2000, SoloCDM wrote: After trying to print a file as "cat filename | lpr", what caused the following message to be sent to administration? lp printer job "stdin": Your printer job (stdin) was not printed because it was not linked to the original file lpr filenamewould prolly do what you want. That didn't work either. I tried a -s with lpr and received the same response. Note: When you reply to this message, please include the mailing list address in Cc: and my email address in To:. * Signed, SoloCDM
Re: [newbie] basic question : NOW loadup speed
Ha folks, I have found the same problem. M72 is far slower than Wdoze to load. Far slower in operation too. John - Original Message - From: "Revenant" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2000 7:50 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] basic question AMDK7-650, HDD size varies by partition, but is plenty, RAM-128MB. KDE is slower to respond than Windows by a _long_ way.
Re: [newbie] Kernel Sanders 2
On Sunday 31 December 2000 15:13, you wrote: Does anyone know where I can get the latest Kernel (which is 2.4) as RPM? Julio, You can get this off the Update mirrors. Just use Mandrake Update. I believe it's part of the developers list. -- Mark "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless," "Sharing is what makes them powerful." Linus Torvalds
Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux - DIE THREAD DIE!
DAMN! I even try filtering this stinking thread out and it just won't GO AWAY! Ok...I know this is going to come as a shock to some, but THIS is a LINUX forum and NOT a WINDOWS forum. Can we PLEASE discuss our windows elsewhere? Please?? On Saturday 30 December 2000 10:03, you wrote: HP are bad. I have a computer of theirs here. It wont format for windows. Ever. I have to use their utility to format it. Their sound card is a custom board which only works on their motherboard. They dont supply drivers. The drivers come preinstalled so when I wanted to upgrade to windows 98 I has to get a new card. Ditto for the video card It came with a cd rom. The cd-rom had been rewired so it could not be replaced except with a hp cdrom. I had to rewire half the motherboard to make mine work. Modem is a winmodem. There are bits missing from the motherboard. uarts, cooling fan is undersized, no reset button. Cheap. On Thu, 28 Dec 2000, you wrote: Does HP make their own printer drivers as well? If I had the e mail address I would e mail them and tell them they need to write linux drivers for their mice On Tue, 26 Dec 2000, Anthony Daniell wrote: - Original Message - From: David Raleigh Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2000 5:17 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux I am locked into bad mouse support by 2-button mouse users. Linux mouse support is hardly configurable at all. I have seen the sawfish mouse dialog. Ridiculous. Very true indeed. Kde should build a special mouse driver for mice that have a scrol wheel and side buttons. Mine has four buttons and a scroll wheel. And the people who make the mice should write software for linux also. After all there are a lot of people using linux today. I feel that if every one using linux sent email to the logitech company asking for drivers/software for there products then they might do something about it. i just bought a new printer, a lexmark Z32 because they have drivers for linux. And the Z52 has drivers for linux also. My mouse is a ms intelli mouse explorer and whith the software for windoze I can get the buttons to do what ever I want them to do, and I can change the icons as well. But I bought it because it does not have a ball in it and can use it as either ps2 or usb. I also feel that linux should have surport for IDE CD Burners, not just SCSI. Regards Anthony Daniell -- Mark "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless," "Sharing is what makes them powerful." Linus Torvalds
Re: [newbie] Gimp xscanimage
Joan Tur wrote: Hallo!! I've got a scanner and i load it's module whenever i want to use it. The problem is that i have to scan using xscanimage because under Gimp the option adquire shows only "screen shot" 8-? What else do i have to do? Thanks!! Joancreate a symlink for /usr/bin/xscanimage in your ~/.gimp-1.1/plug-ins/ directory and the next time you launch gimp a new item will appear in the Xtns pull-down menu called Acquire Image. -- Alan
Re: [newbie] Gimp xscanimage
Herman Jalink wrote: On Saturday 30 December 2000 15:51, you wrote: Hallo!! I've got a scanner and i load it's module whenever i want to use it. The problem is that i have to scan using xscanimage because under Gimp the option adquire shows only "screen shot" 8-? What else do i have to do? Thanks!! I assume xscanimage is installed correctly. You can check this as follows: Open a terminal window and type xscanimage. Because xscanimage is a gimp plug-in it will answer with xscanimage is a gimp plug-in and must be run by the gimp to be used. However the program will start. In order to use it as a gimp plug in you have to create a symbolic link to the program and your gimp plug-in directory as follows: ln -s /usr/bin/xscanimge /home/your_name/.gimp-1.1/plug-ins The directory .gimp-1.1 is a hidden directory and therefore the leading . is important. The name may vary a little and depends of the version of the gimp you use. Personally I prefer a program called xsane. You can find it in the development directory at the mandrake ftp mirrors, e.g. ftp.ciril.fr/pub/linux/mandrake-devel/contrib/RPMS Best regards Herman Jalink [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you do the above and select the File drop down you will only see 'Acquire - Screen Shot' but if you pick 'Xtns - Acquire Image' you should be able to pick the device your scanner is attached to. Don't know if there is a way of changing the behavior of Acquire so that you can pick a scanner. Maybe it is a bug in what I have running here. Greg
Re: [newbie] Copy from Konsole?
Hi Jerold, I am learning to compile using the NHF on compiling software. I am getting an error and would like to be able to cut and paste to file or save the output to file, but there are no options that I can find to do this. As usual, any help will be appreciated. I'm so new, I'm not sure if this is of help, but when I am in Konsole, Ctrl+C works, but you will get a new prompt each time. Probably a better way, but it has served me so far until I find the correct method. Sincerely, Jody Adair Customer Sales and Support [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fookes Software P.O Box 998 Milton, FL 32572-0998 USA Freeware and Shareware NoteTab, Mailbag, Album Express, Screen Savers http://www.notetab.com http://www.fookes.com The NoteTabbers Assistant Page Libraries, Clips, and... http://www.notetab.net
Re: [newbie] install netsaint
there is an rpm in contribs on any mirror site: Mandrake-devel/contribs/RPMS/netsaint-0.0.6-2mdk.i586.rpm -Chris On Sunday 31 December 2000 15:50, you wrote: Does anyone know how to install netsaint ? i couldn't found the rpm of netsaint in linux mandrake disc if someone know please tell me thanks __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/
RE: [newbie] segmentation fault
This problem has surfaced before with other versions of Netscape. Sorry, but I do not remember what the solution was. Check the Archive for Newbie and Expert you should be able to find the posting there. Charles (-: Forever never goes beyond tomorrow. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kevin Taylor Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2000 3:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] segmentation fault Hi, I was running netscape 4.76.0x on my LM 7.1 system and netscape crashed. Now when trying to run netscape I get a "segementation fault (core dumped) message. I uninstalled the netscape RPMs and installed the 4.76.3x version from rpmfind.net in the LM dir. Both common and communicator RPMs installed fine, but I _still_ get the segmentation fault when trying to start netscape. Any advice on what a segmentation fault is and how I can fix it? Or do I need to reinstall linux? Thanks. --Kevin
Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux
Hi, Are you sure that they will accept only *word* as a acceptable word-processor? For Linux you can install Corel's WordPerfect8, it's also a popular wp for windows, hope this helps. Have a Happy New Year, Herman Goldenpi wrote: I installed 98 after melting my P200MMX in the laptop. I just wanted to get it up to 166. It should have worked but I didn't know the core voltage was too high. I thought it was just a cooling problem and tried to fix it by stuffing the heatsink with thermal paste. I ended up buying a p166 with my birthday money and that will do 166 easy. So now I have bindows 98 on it. I want to put on mandrake 7.1 but the hard drive is only 1 gig. I need 98 for school. They insist I use a popular word processor and that means word. Soon as I get enough for a bigger drive its getting linux. - Original Message - From: Mark Hillary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2000 5:11 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux Windows 98 doesn't run on 166Mhz, the install program doesn't allow the install. Mark Hillary - Original Message - From: "goldenpi" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2000 3:08 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux Look at this number sequence: 512k 1m 4m 8m 32m see how quickly it goes up? They are the memory requirements for windows. dos would word with 512k. windows 3.11 needed 4 meg. windows 95 needed 8 meg. Windows 98 needed 32Meg. Whistler will need so much people will have to buy more. And look at processers: dos : 8086 win3.11 : 80286 win95 : 80386 win98 : unknown win me : 166MHz thats enough that I managed to fty my laptop processor when I tried to overclock it and run windows me. It cost £25 for a new pentium 166. On Fri, 29 Dec 2000, you wrote: Romanator wrote: Revenant wrote: Clarification: Millenium is MS eking the last $$$ it can out of the dying Win9x OS. Whistler will be what Win2000 was supposed to be - the fusion of the NT line with the Win9x line. It is supposed to be a very different beast to the Win9x line, including ME... Have you noticed that the OS is getting bigger and bigger? They are pushing our resources to their limits. shrug Our resource limits are increasing. Most software aims to take maximum advantage of the hardware available. Now that the industry standard machine is a PIII, I'd be disappointed if the OS didn't have additional functionality. That said, Windows *does* seem to have more than its fair share of bloat... Society Design Mailing List http://www.egroups.com/group/Society_Design For any and all aspects of designing societies, from discussion of real- world utopian ideas to fantastic fictional or roleplaying worlds. ---Revenant [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -- -- == Goldenpi - linux user, unreal editor, programer in 3 languages and all round geek.
Re: [newbie] segmentation fault
Kevin Taylor wrote: Hi, I was running netscape 4.76.0x on my LM 7.1 system and netscape crashed. Now when trying to run netscape I get a "segementation fault (core dumped) message. I uninstalled the netscape RPMs and installed the 4.76.3x version from rpmfind.net in the LM dir. Both common and communicator RPMs installed fine, but I _still_ get the segmentation fault when trying to start netscape. Any advice on what a segmentation fault is and how I can fix it? Or do I need to reinstall linux? Thanks. --Kevin Kevin, If you get a segmentation fault, ensure that you: a) Uninstall b) Delete the program folder c) Install the program to /usr/local or /usr/bin -- Roman Registered Linux User #179293
Re: [newbie] Newbie dumb question.....whats a kernel, whats an rpm - clarity mark answers only please
Hello, please disable html emailing, how to do that? Just ask me, I know how in Netscape. The kernel in Linux is kind of like the 'command.com' file in a dos/windows system, it contains the rudimentary code for a running operating system and also contains the 'internal commands' such as 'ls' (that means list, same as 'dir' in dos) that allow one to interact and command the computer what to do, it also communicates with the hardware attached to the system like the video card and the soudn card, harddrive and such. To 'optimise' the kernel means to supply it with the abilities to support (use and communicate with) the hardware that one wishes the computer to use, and to leave out the things that one does not have or need on their computer, like unnecessary hardware codes and such. But, leaving a few un-used things compiled into the kernel does not slow things down, really. I hope this helps. Vic On Sat, 30 Dec 2000, David and Alicia wrote: I'd like to know, can somebody put me straight on why we should be optimising our kernels? what is a kernel? David and Alicia -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of john rigby Sent: 30 December 2000 02:21 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] USER ONLY: A plan Ha folks, In line with my policy to put something back ... Here are some additional descriptions that can help us all here: Newby-Newby: Someone stuck it to them. "Just plug it in and switch it on" Remember the Applecore ads?? Even *I* nearly rushed out and bought one after years of fighting Wdoze. Just be sympathetic and send them away. They SHOULD still be using Windoze. Linux is definitely not ready for cold starts. User-Newby Characterised by their total lack of interest in playing under the hood. Usually frustrated Wdozers just looking for a way to run a small business or write a Great Novel, or just look for help and inspiration on the 3Ws. They just want a working Office Suite and a Browser. THAT's ALL. Nerd-(Specific = Linux/M72) Newby IF, if they owned a car, they would change their own oil - refine it too, if they could. They are characterised by a complete inability to use more than 3 fingers to type and no way would they stoop to Typequik(r) to quadruple their output. Would never buy a car with an autoshift. Even if they ever did buy one. "Who needs 'em? Pizza is delivered." Will go to any extreme to use the Big C ( no, not that - the command line!)Would rather use Morse Code, than CB. Actually are VITAL to the rest of us EVER escaping 'Doze. IF we can only figure out what they are saying. Masochist-Newby They are the ones who deliberately tackle projects like LINUX. For fun! They are truly born to the other universe of Codecutters. Almost impossible to communicate with. Better left alone in a dark place and fed lots of Pizzas and Strange Drinks. Just tell them things like " Well, this cannot be done anyway, no way" and go away. Eventually they will hand you a workable program, which has to be filtered thru numerous Nerd-[specific] Newbies and one day will have INSTRUCTIONS on how to use it. Ha! In your Dreams! Folks, 95% of Newbies to Linux are not Nerds of any type. They are the future of Linux: ORDINARY USERS. We need millions of us to make it all work. So my humble submission: HOW ABOUT: USER-Newbies putting that in the Subject Line, e.g. USER: emulator advice req. THEN responders will know they have to talk simple English - and NEVER mention the Big C except as a last resort. AND Users won't go nutz trying to translate esoteric things of no interest at all - like compiling kernels. Happy New Year! John Remember LTUAE? Then try this: www.fablor.com/aurora But, DON'T Go here! www.fablor.com/meteora Content-Type: text/html; name="unnamed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description:
Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux
Mark Hillary wrote: Windows 98 doesn't run on 166Mhz, the install program doesn't allow the install. Mark Hillary It runs just fine on the P 133 file server on my home network. Well, not fine its slow and if I run programs on it it crashes, but as a network backup/file server and storage facility it works just fine. The only program it runs routinely is SETI and it takes close to 400 hours to do a run. -- Jim -- James Mellema, CRNA -- Linux User # 71650
Re: [newbie] Fast CPU
Mark Hillary wrote: Does anyone here know why a background cann't be desplayed on KDM. Also is there a fix for it. I am useing the KDE that came with the downloaded version of Mandrake 7.2 Cheers to anyon that can help. And happy new year to you all. Mark Hillary Mark, Right click on the desktopconfigure background, click on WallPaper tab, change Mode to No Wallpaper. The default has a colored WallPaper that covers the entire screen. I don't know why, its not very aesthetic. -- Jim -- James Mellema, CRNA -- Linux User # 71650
Re: [newbie] Mail delayed
Hey Dennis Is anyone else noticing that their posts are delayed quit a long time, like up to 24 hours? Yeah. Saw last night it took some hours for one. Today, it's been a little less than that, but still taking a long time. Meph -- "I did this 'cause Linux gives me a woody." -Dave '-ddt-' Taylor, announcing DOOM for Linux
Re: [newbie] My Linux Box
What I tell you. It's monster. How do you kill this? What did that character say in Lost in Space? KILL, something or other, DESTROY! Do you mean IDAK? Instant Destroyer And Killer
Re: [newbie] Mail delayed
Yes, mine have been, but if it gets rid of the dual posts then I supposed it's OK. Is anyone else noticing that their posts are delayed quit a long time, like up to 24 hours?
[newbie] gcc tutorial
At 11:04 AM 12/31/00 -0500, you wrote: Abraham Mandac wrote: Can someone point me to a gcc tutorial [on the internet or a good book]? I find the man pages a bit overwhelming as yet. Thanks, Abe Hello Abe, I found a lot of good books through a good web page at: http:/www.informit.com They allow you to review portions of the book before purchasing. One example is: Tom Swan's GNU C++ for Linux Check out: http://gcc.gnu.org/ and gnu.g++.help newsgroup By the way, which compiler are you using? Under linux, gcc, I guess. I recently downloaded an IDE called CForge [first RPM I ever installed apart from the LM install in my entire life] but I've yet to learn my way around it. Before linux, I used the old DOS-based Turbo C's and Visual C++ in Win98 to learn C and C++ [not really been able to build anything that would benefit all of mankind yet :) ]. My first try at compiling under linux is rather traditional: I made a simple Hello World program and typed 'gcc hello.cc' on the console. It compiled OK. Next, I tried a small program that uses the keyword 'new'. gcc doesn't seem to recognize it. I was worrying I might be missing some include file. But then 'new' is supposed to be a keyword and not a function included in some include file, isn't it? Oh, well. Thanks for the links above. -- Abe -- Roman Registered Linux User #179293
[newbie] SMB 2.0.6 printing under Mandrake 7.2 w/ CUPS
I recently hooked a HP 672C to my Linux box. When the printer is hooked directly to my Linux box it prints ok. When the printer is hooked directly into my Windows ME box, it prints good. When I hook the printer into my Linux box and then try to print over the network from my Windows ME box, all is not well. When I tried to print with the default print settings in the smb.conf file, I got a bunch of garbage which was expected (default is set to use a postscript filter, but I was using the HP supplied drivers). When I switched lines commented out in the smb.conf file so that 'raw' mode was selected and restarted Samba I could no longer get anything to print out from Windows ME, but I could still print locally. I tried to toggle back to the default mode in the smb.conf file and got garbage as expected. I then switched again to 'raw' mode and was back to nothing. I also looked for a 'Generic Postscript Driver' for Windows ME, but I never found such a beast. I thumbed through the CUPS doc and even though it gave better insight onto how to use CUPS, I failed to find anything wrong with how things where set up in the smb.conf file. (BTW I already have user level file services working between the boxes with the Linux box as the file server with the use of Samba.) Any advice would be appreciated.
[newbie] USB Mouse Recognition Problems
I am having trouble getting LM 7.2 to recognize my USB Logitech MouseMan Wheel, unless I plug it into the PS/2 port. Has anyone had success getting their USB mouse recognized? If, please email me. Thanks, CTK Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.amexmail.com/?A=1
Re: [newbie] BANG!!! its dead! g g L - DIE THREAD DIE!
I think the GATES GETS LINUX thread needs to diealso. Vic wrote: Its dead dead dead dead dead. -- Registered Linux User:167369 ==http://www.KompuKit.com Kit Goins ICQ# 7110071 [EMAIL PROTECTED]Lowell, Mass. Web Designer http://www.kompukit.com/kitdesigns Personal WebServer: http://kompukit.dyndns.org (Server Runs between M - F 6pm-12am, S S 12pm-12am EST)
Re: [newbie] NVIDIA
Hello Meph, MI Hey, MI I'm wondering about this subject as well. I've a Diamond Viper MI 770D with 32MB RAM, using the Riva TnT 2[v5] module. Till MI yesterday, I was running some "Other" module, but I'd reset the MI Riva in drakcomf had also installed the glide files from CD. MI Some games are now fine, but others either go beyond the MI desktop, are still slow, or (in one case) crash my whole system. MI Would the nvidia kernel fix this, or maybe a different MI module...? Am not sure what is that v5 module, maybe it is what am saying, but whatever, I suggest nvidia's 0.95 version module. If some games are working, your configuration is fine. Some games need some special configurations, in their "own configuration files", like :Unreal Tournament needs a " use tnt" addition to a config of itself, I advice you read the games' manuals and faqs. Also, some games look for libGL.so ( or libGL.so.1 etc ) in /usr/lib but some do in /usr/X11R6/lib ! I suggest you have all the nvidia's glx files in both, and that you check all the links related to them are pointing to nvidia's files, not Mesa's . These Should be enough to make the opther stuff work :) Goodluck MI Meph Onur _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [[newbie] install netsaint ]
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[newbie] Font Ugliness
Can anyone tell me why, even with XF86 ver 4.x, I STILL have to edit my XF86.config file and invert the 75dpi and 100dpi entries??? Why doesn't X use the 100 dpi fonts by default? What is the purpose of the default at 75dpi I'll bet this is one of the biggest pains for the newbies and the ugliness of the default fonts is a real turn-off for them. So, why do the distros continue to do it this way? I'm asking because I really want to know.
[Fwd: Re: [newbie] samba conf]
Re-reading this, I realize my answer was wrong (although the site pointed to will help). Try editing the Windows C:/Windows/hosts.sam file. Put in something like this: 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain 192.168.0.2 YourLinuxbox.YourWorkgroup #use the address of your linbox 192.168.0.1 localhost #the address of your windows box Andri Genio wrote: yes in windows 98 i saw the samba server but can't access to that in windows 2000 i can access it Its definitely either a permissions problem--or you don't have a public share set up on your Linux box. Go to the Diagnosing Your Samba Server site and follow the steps and you will learn all you need to know about samba networking. It's here: http://www.rtr.com/winpak/Documentation/sambadiag.htm
[newbie] VGA changes to in lilo.conf
G'Day and Thanks for reading this.. I recently changed over to Mandrake 7.2 from RH6.2 In RH I was able to change the VGA parameters to allow smaller text on screen for more easier reading. I used the same parameters under Mandrake. It works for the first part of the bootup, however, when it gets into the "Interactive Setup" part of the boot, it returns back to the default font vga size. The changes were done in the lilo.conf using:- vga="0x0f01" I prefer the smaller font size, however, unable to include in the boot of Mandrake 7.2 !! Regards, - Stef Daniels, [VK5HSX]. SysOp: VK5TTY BBS [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Have Safe New Year **
Re: [newbie] Mail delayed
On Sunday 31 December 2000 07:42 pm, you wrote: Hey Dennis Is anyone else noticing that their posts are delayed quit a long time, like up to 24 hours? Yeah. Saw last night it took some hours for one. Today, it's been a little less than that, but still taking a long time. Meph Thanks for the reply Meph, and all the others who did too. I was afraid I had broken something again. I tend to fool around with this OS and it's peripherals alot. As an example I have something messed up in Netscape now where the tool bars are all monochromatic (black) no depth no color. Don't know how I managed that. Any way I think I have one reply still floating around out there in the e-mail electron flow. Maybe it will come home to roost. Thanks again. -- Dennis M. Registered Linux user #180842
