[newbie-it] problemi smpt
Ho usato per molto tempo kmail con smtp senza alcun problema. Ora, dopo avere, ahimé, pasticciato alquanto sugli hostnames, per un problema che mi dava Gnome, non riesco più a spedire la posta (mentren ricezione non ho problemi). Ho controllato i seguenti files: /etc/hosts 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost /etc/hosts.allow e hosts/deny sono ambedue vuoti (solo commenti) In /etc/postfix/main.cf ho queste righe: myhostname = guido.localhost.here localhost mydomain = localhost.here che ho anche provato a commentare. /etc/sysconfig.network ha NETWORKING=yes FORWARD_IPV4=false HOSTNAME=guido.localhost.here DOMAINNAME=localhost.here Quale file manca? A me andrebbe bene sia usare localhost sia una configurazione del tipo localhost sia una del tipo pippo.topolinia.disney.hereQuale file manca? A me andrebbe bene sia usare localhost sia una configurazione del tipo localhost sia una del tipo pippo.topolinia.disney. Grazie! Guido M. Guido Milanese - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vocal Ensemble Ars Antiqua - http://www.arsantiqua.org Salita del Passero 11, I-16126 Genova GE, Italy ** NON NOBIS DOMINE *
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[newbie-it] Supermount
Ciao a tutti. Ho un problemino col supermount come da oggetto. Ho installata la Mdk 8.0. Con l'installazione iniziale, col kernel 2.4.3 tutto ok. Ma da quando ho messo il 2.4.10 all'avvio, durante i vari test, mi appare il messaggio supermount kernel support failed o qualcosa di analogo. Sapreste dirmi come fare? Io nella configurazione del kernel ho selezionato la voce automount support presente nel sottomenu' riguardante i files systems, ma niente da fare. Sono la stessa cosa supermount e automount? E' pure inutile eseguire supermount enable pewché pur modificando l'fstab, all'avvio successivo del supermount non c'è + traccia in questo file. Thanx P.S. Qualcuno di voi ha installato il kde 2.2 sulla mdk 8.0? E' normale che dia dei problemi con le dipendenze durante l'installazione (con urpmi da console)? Perché io l'ho installato e sembra funzionare, però...
Re: [newbie-it] conti di dipendenze che non tornano
Oggidi' alle ore 08:06, venerdì 26 ottobre 2001, Voi, Nobile Davide, avete realizzato: kdegraphics-2.1.1x is needed by kdegraphics-devel-2.1.1 Per evitare di impantanarti in dipendenze reciproche a catena, ti consiglio (se hai tutto quello che e' richiesto e non e' poco) di dare un bel rpm -Uvh kde* e vedere quello che ti chiede. Altrimenti, a piccoli passi puoi iniziare a gruppi di pacchetti omogenei, del tipo rpm -Uvh kdegraphics*.rpm (questo permette di evitare il circolo vizioso che segnali). Purtroppo non sempre le riviste hanno l'accortezza di inserire nei cd anche i pacchetti immediatamente dipendenti, se ti segnala una libreria o programma mancante fai un salto su rpmfind.net e inserisci il nome di questo, poi scarichi il pacchetto per MDK 8.1 in cui e' contenuto (se non l'hai gia'). P.S. in ogni caso per installare es. kdeadmin 2.2x, e' necessario avere il pacchetto rpm in versione 4.0.3 Forse devo prima fare questo lavoro? Credo che sia meglio, in modo da eliminare i problemi piu' macroscopici; questo ti permette di fare aggiornamenti per cosi' dire mirati. Inizia magari con un rpm -Uvh rpm* urpmi* popt*, ad ogni altra richiesta aggiungi il/i pacchetto/i mancante/i NB: se la regola generale e' di non forzare le dipendenze, questo e' particolarmente vero per rpm, altrimenti ti troverai con un sistema altamente malfunzionante dato che i pacchetti non possono piu' essere gestiti in alcun modo. -- LU #210970 LM #98222 / MDK 8.2 -Cooker- su 2.4.13 [Chi e' pronto a dar via le proprie liberta' fondamentali per comprarsi briciole di temporanea sicurezza non merita ne' la liberta' ne' la sicurezza - Benjamin Franklin]
Re: [newbie-it] Supermount
Oggidi' alle ore 20:44, venerdì 26 ottobre 2001, Voi, Nobile CaMiX, avete realizzato: Ma da quando ho messo il 2.4.10 all'avvio, durante i vari test, mi appare il messaggio supermount kernel support failed o qualcosa di analogo. Sapreste dirmi come fare? Io nella Pare che il supermount, che MDK appioppava di default fino alla 8.0, sia stato messo da parte, probabilmente per bachi o buchi di sicurezza (il motivo preciso lo ignoro) Volendo lo puoi ripristinare, ma se l'hanno tolto il motivo c'e' :) Col supermount potresti/potevi appunto utilizzare al volo cd e floppy senza preoccuparti di montarli, l'automount/autofs AFAIK si riferisce a tutta un'altra gamma di fs montabili eccettuati i supporti rimovibili [non garantisco sull'attendibilta' di questa affemazione :P]. Son d'accordo che sia comodo ma in tutta sincerita' pero' credo che un semplice mount /dev/cdrom quando ti serve e il relativo umount non sia poi cosi' stressante (a maggior ragione che con l'opzione user in fstab puoi farlo montare ad ogni utente); potresti pure fare uno scriptino con un nome di poche lettere ... E' pure inutile eseguire supermount enable pewché pur modificando l'fstab, all'avvio successivo del supermount non c'è + traccia in questo file. Sicuro che sono state registrate le modifiche? se fai supermount enable non scrive niente su /etc/fstab ... Dai un'occhiata al man supermount e vedrai ... Qualcuno di voi ha installato il kde 2.2 sulla mdk 8.0? E' normale che dia dei problemi con le dipendenze durante l'installazione (con urpmi da console)? Perché io l'ho installato e sembra funzionare, però... Si', diciamo che kde e rpm son state le mie bestie nere per un bel po' di tempo :-/ ... Ma tanto uso IceWm da un bel po' :) -- LU #210970 LM #98222 / MDK 8.2 -Cooker- su 2.4.13 [Chi e' pronto a dar via le proprie liberta' fondamentali per comprarsi briciole di temporanea sicurezza non merita ne' la liberta' ne' la sicurezza - Benjamin Franklin]
Re: R: [newbie-it] Cancellarsi dalla lista: leggete qui!!!
Ma, confermi in che senso? Hai provato ed e' andata? Perche' io volevo cambiare indirizzo, e ho mandato due volte la mail, e niente! Poi ho rinunciato. Provo di nuovo! Confermo! Dal sito funziona. Ciao a tutti -Messaggio originale- Da: Stefano Salari [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Inviato: lunedi 22 ottobre 2001 14.33 A:Newbie-it Oggetto: [newbie-it] Cancellarsi dalla lista: leggete qui!!! Priorita: Alta Ciao a tutti, Vedo che parecchi stanno cercando (purtroppo) di cancellarsi dalla Mailing List mandando il messaggio in lista: ho pero' trovato la mail che mi era stata inviata quando mi sono iscritto io e qui indica che la cancellazione va fatta in uno di questi modi: - mandando una mail all'indirizzo [EMAIL PROTECTED] (non alla ML) scrivendo unsubscrib* newbie-it nell'oggetto. Dovete ovviamente sostituire l'* con la lettera e: io non potevo scrivere il comando per esteso... - oppure andando al link http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/flists.php3 e cancellandosi dal sito. Questo e' quello che so io, pero' non ho mai provato...! Saluz. Steo. __ Do You Yahoo!? Il Nokia Game e on line! Clicca qui per iscriverti e partecipare alla nuova avventura multimediale entro il 3 novembre. Vai alla pagina del gioco http://it.promotions.yahoo.com/info/nokiagame.html! Senza costi telefonici spedisci la tua posta e naviga gratis i nostri siti su http://www.edimedia.com/ Senza costi telefonici spedisci la tua posta e naviga gratis i nostri siti su http://www.edimedia.com/
[newbie] errores compilacion
i have mandrake 8 with gcc 2.96. I can not compile dlxcc program.th code of this program are in: ftp://max.stanford.edu/pub/max/pub/hennessy-patterson.software/dlx.tar.Z i do this: 1.cd /home/mmm876/programas/dlx/ 2.tar xvzf dlx.tar.Z 3.cd /home/mmm876/programas/dlx/dlx/gcc 4.[mmm876@m gcc]$ ./config.gcc dlx Linked `config.h' to `./config/xm-dlx.h'. Linked `tm.h' to `./config/tm-dlx.h'. Linked `md' to `./config/dlx.md'. Linked `aux-output.c' to `./config/out-dlx.c'. Links are now set up for use with a dlx. 5.[mmm876@m gcc]$ make cc -g -I. -I. -I./config \ -DSTANDARD_STARTFILE_PREFIX=\/usr/local/lib/\ \ -DSTANDARD_EXEC_PREFIX=\/gcc-\ -c \ `echo ./gcc.c | sed 's,^\./,,'` In file included from /usr/include/stdio.h:64, from gcc.c:120: /usr/include/libio.h:455: parse error before `__gnuc_va_list' /usr/include/libio.h:457: parse error before `__gnuc_va_list' In file included from gcc.c:120: /usr/include/stdio.h:284: parse error before `__gnuc_va_list' /usr/include/stdio.h:286: parse error before `__gnuc_va_list' /usr/include/stdio.h:290: parse error before `__gnuc_va_list' /usr/include/stdio.h:299: parse error before `__gnuc_va_list' gcc.c: In function `pfatal_with_name': gcc.c:1870: conflicting types for `sys_errlist' /usr/include/stdio.h:553: previous declaration of `sys_errlist' gcc.c: In function `perror_with_name': gcc.c:1884: conflicting types for `sys_errlist' /usr/include/stdio.h:553: previous declaration of `sys_errlist' gcc.c: In function `perror_exec': gcc.c:1898: conflicting types for `sys_errlist' /usr/include/stdio.h:553: previous declaration of `sys_errlist' make: *** [gcc.o] Error 1 what happend? help me please. thanks. -- --- |\ /| | \Manuel Martin Martin / | |\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] / | | \ ___/ | | | |mmm | || _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Logitech MouseMan wheel
On Sunday 07 October 2001 11:41 pm, PENA FAMILY wrote: Well, it appears Linux-Mandrake didn't properly recognize my Mouseman cordless mouse at installation. Although, I did tell it the brand and it asked if it were a wheel mouse it still doesn't quite work. As with the other user who posted on video and mouse pointer. I tried changing it through harddrake only to have default back to generic mouse. The wheel works only it scrolls at half a page at a time instead of a smoother 2-3 lines at a time. So I take it that I need to download something or mess with script, is that correct?, in order to completely get Linux to understand what I am using. By the way I mess with the screen resolutions and got it looking better now. I have one problem but I solved another without realizing it. You give a little to get a little. The easiest way to fix this is rpm -e imwheel, then log out and log back in. -s Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] POP3
Michael This paragraph extracted from MUO I think answers all these questions Derek So to poll your mail every five minutes, put this line into /etc/ppp/ip-up.local: fetchmail -d 300 Note that since ip-up/down scripts are called by a root process, 'Fetchmail' looks for its configuration file in root's home directory. For security reasons the configuration must only be read/writable by its owner (since your passwords are stored in there). 'Fetchmail' refuses to work with configurations which do not meet this requirement. Another effect is that you can't use a configuration file which does not belong to 'root'. This is simple logic: all programs started from ip-up/down scripts are owned by root and so does 'Fetchmail'. And 'Fetchmail' does not accept a configuration file which isn't owned by the user who started it. This command for 'root' will solve the problem: chown root:root .fetchmailrc mv .fetchmailrc ~ Another possibility would be to run Fetchmail in daemon mode right on boot, e.g. by installing the 'fetchmail-daemon' package from your Mandrake CD. This package installs a service script in '/etc/rc.d/init.d' which can be controlled via the usual 'service' commands. If you use this package, the 'fetchmailrc' has to be located in the '/etc' directory. On Friday 26 October 2001 2:22 am, Michael wrote: Penultimate leg of the exercise. My .fetchmailrc lines look like [poll pop3.paradise.net.nz protocol pop3 user mbadams, with password , is michael here] The lastline telling it [EMAIL PROTECTED] is which local mailbox (or which /var/spool/... to store the incoming mail in. Which format is better? fetchmail -d 600 -L ~/.fetchmaillog in a startup script. or fetchmail in a script with the following lines in .fetchmailrc set daemon 600 set logfile ~/.fetchmaillog Based on the last paragraph in man fetchmail discussing DAEMON MODE i suspect the second method is better. What is the recommended script to run fetchmail in on bootup? Where do i put .fetchmailrc for root to do this? My guess is /root. Do i still chmod .fetchmailrc to 0600? Perhaps 0400 is safer for root (never can be too careful). Do i chmod .fetchmaillog to 0600 as well? Is running fetchmail as a daemon in root ok, or not recommended? Can i ask any other silly questions without getting laughed at? Just call me a Kiwi (New Zealander) on a steep learning curve. Jan Wilson wrote: * Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] [011024 06:21]: My ISP is letting me have multiple POP3 accounts. How do i set my client to fetch them. Or can i only view the other mailboxes online? I have kmail 1.0.28 or netscape 4.73. In your home directory, put (or edit) a file named .fetchmailrc You need a line for each pop3 account ... something like: poll mail.domain.com proto pop3 user myname password mypass Make sure that file has read and write permission for the user only, 0600 in octal code. Then, to fetch your mail from all 3 pop3 accounts, type fetchmail At the user prompt. For details, man fetchmail -- Jan Wilson, SysAdmin; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Logitech MouseMan wheel
On Sun, 7 Oct 2001 21:41:43 -0700, PENA FAMILY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, it appears Linux-Mandrake didn't properly recognize my Mouseman cordless mouse at installation. Although, I did tell it the brand and it asked if it were a wheel mouse it still doesn't quite work. As with the other user who posted on video and mouse pointer. I tried changing it through harddrake only to have default back to generic mouse. The wheel works only it scrolls at half a page at a time instead of a smoother 2-3 lines at a time. So I take it that I need to download something or mess with script, is that correct?, in order to completely get Linux to understand what I am using. By the way I mess with the screen resolutions and got it looking better now. I have one problem but I solved another without realizing it. You give a little to get a little. Try uninstalling the imwheel package: # rpm -e imwheel -- Sridhar Dhanapalan And in the end, reality always tends to hit theory hard in the face when you least expect it. -- Linus Torvalds Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] compile errors
On Fri, 26 Oct 2001 10:12:14 -0400, Manuel Martin Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i have mandrake 8 with gcc 2.96. I can not compile dlxcc program.th code of this program are in: ftp://max.stanford.edu/pub/max/pub/hennessy-patterson.software/dlx.tar.Z S N I P help me please. thanks. Some apps don't like GCC 2.96. Try switching compilers. To switch to egcs: $ export CC=egcs CXX=egcs++ To switch to GCC 3 (only in Mandrake 8.1, not 8.0): $ export CC=gcc-3.0.1 CXX=gcc-3.0.1 You obviously require the relavant GCC packages to be installed. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan Anyone who says you can have a lot of widely dispersed people hack away on a complicated piece of code and avoid total anarchy has never managed a software project. -- Andrew S. Tanenbaum, 1992, writing to Linus Torvalds. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Help with Telnet
On Thu, 25 Oct 2001 15:49:05 -0700 (PDT)
Onur Kucuk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- Frans Ketelaars [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes :)
[frans@localhost linux]$ rpm -qa | grep telnet
gnome-telnet-2.4-2mdk
telnet-client-krb5-1.2.2-11mdk
telnet-server-krb5-1.2.2-11mdk
[frans@localhost linux]$ telnet localhost
Trying 127.0.0.1...
Connected to localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1).
Escape character is '^]'.
localhost.localdomain (Linux release 2.4.8-26mdk
#1 Sun Sep 23 17:06:39 CEST 2001) (2)
login: frans
Password:
Last login: Thu Oct 25 23:31:42 from localhost
[frans@localhost frans]$
HTH,
-Frans
Can you tell how ? What we had really wanted to learn
was how to make a telnetd run our systems
[root@zaburt root]# cat /etc/xinetd.conf
#
# Simple configuration file for xinetd
#
# Some defaults, and include /etc/xinetd.d/
defaults
{
instances = 60
log_type= SYSLOG authpriv
log_on_success = HOST PID
log_on_failure = HOST
cps = 25 30
}
includedir /etc/xinetd.d
[root@zaburt root]# cat /etc/xinetd.d/telnet
service telnet
{
# disable = yes
flags = REUSE
log_on_failure += USERID
socket_type = stream
user = root
server = /usr/sbin/telnetd
server_args = -a none
wait = no
}
[root@zaburt root]# rpm -qa |grep telnet
gnome-telnet-2.4-2mdk
ktelnet-0.7b1-10mdk
telnet-client-krb5-1.2.2-15mdk
telnet-server-krb5-1.2.2-15mdk
[root@zaburt root]# /etc/rc.d/init.d/xinetd restart
Stopping xinetd:
[ OK ]
Starting xinetd:
[ OK ]
[root@zaburt root]# telnet localhost
Trying 127.0.0.1...
telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection
refused
[root@zaburt root]# nmap localhost
Starting nmap V. 2.54BETA22 ( www.insecure.org/nmap/ )
Interesting ports on localhost.localdomain
(127.0.0.1):
(The 1535 ports scanned but not shown below are in
state: closed)
Port State Service
21/tcp openftp
22/tcp openssh
111/tcpopensunrpc
631/tcpopencups
839/tcpopenunknown
6000/tcp openX11
32771/tcp opensometimes-rpc5
Nmap run completed -- 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned
in 1 second
Onur
Hi, I just installed telnet yesterday and it just worked. Now the
really strange thing: this morning it had stopped working (I didn't
log out or something). So I removed the mentioned telnet rpm's and
reinstalled them and now it works again:
Starting nmap V. 2.54BETA22 ( www.insecure.org/nmap/ )
Interesting ports on localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1):
(The 1525 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed)
Port State Service
21/tcp openftp
22/tcp openssh
23/tcp opentelnet
25/tcp opensmtp
53/tcp opendomain
80/tcp openhttp
111/tcpopensunrpc
139/tcpopennetbios-ssn
443/tcpopenhttps
891/tcpopenunknown
901/tcpopensamba-swat
953/tcpopenrndc
1023/tcp openunknown
3306/tcp openmysql
5432/tcp openpostgres
6000/tcp openX11
32770/tcp opensometimes-rpc3
Nmap run completed -- 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 1 second
[frans@localhost frans]$ ps -ax | grep telnet
11759 pts/2S 0:00 grep telnet
[frans@localhost frans]$ telnet localhost
Trying 127.0.0.1...
Connected to localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1).
Escape character is '^]'.
localhost.localdomain (Linux release 2.4.8-26mdk #1 Sun Sep 23 17:06:39 CEST 2001)
(0)
login: frans
Password:
Last login: Fri Oct 26 10:55:55 from localhost
[frans@localhost frans]$ ps -ax | grep telnet
11760 pts/2S 0:00 telnet localhost
11761 ?S 0:00 telnetd -a none
11790 pts/0S 0:00 grep telnet
[frans@localhost frans]$
I noticed telnetd is only running after a telnet connection is
established. I did nothing concerning xinetd.d because it's way
over my head :) The following seems is a bit different from what you get:
[frans@localhost frans]$ cat /etc/xinetd.d/telnet
service telnet
{
disable = no
flags = REUSE
socket_type = stream
wait= no
user= root
server = /usr/sbin/telnetd
server_args = -a none
log_on_failure += USERID
}
[frans@localhost frans]$
HTH,
-Frans (very confused)
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Re: [newbie] Logitech MouseMan wheel
When I wrote this email I never got a response and frankly just gave up on it but it just arrives now about 19 days later?! Is this odd or happens from time to time? On Sunday 07 October 2001 09:41 pm, you wrote: Well, it appears Linux-Mandrake didn't properly recognize my Mouseman cordless mouse at installation. Although, I did tell it the brand and it asked if it were a wheel mouse it still doesn't quite work. As with the other user who posted on video and mouse pointer. I tried changing it through harddrake only to have default back to generic mouse. The wheel works only it scrolls at half a page at a time instead of a smoother 2-3 lines at a time. So I take it that I need to download something or mess with script, is that correct?, in order to completely get Linux to understand what I am using. By the way I mess with the screen resolutions and got it looking better now. I have one problem but I solved another without realizing it. You give a little to get a little. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Security for Mandrake
At 05:14 25.10.2001 -0400, you wrote: Hi all, This is probably a FAQ, but I can't find the answer in the e-mails I have so far Some background is needed. In common with quite a few people, I would expect, I'm a long-time Windows hack trying out Linux because of Borland's Kylix, aka Delphi for Linux. I'm starting from as near zero knowledge of Linux as makes no difference. Living in a very rural area of Pennsylvania, I have a choice of exactly one cable access provider, and they're a bit paranoid, to put it mildly. They've managed to configure their access systems in such a way as to (deliberately!) prevent use of a router as a hardware firewall, unless you buy their much more expensive commercial access. Now, when my machine is booted in Windows, I see an average of something like 30 unauthorised access attempts a day (the 24.x.y.z IP address of most cable modems is an open invitation). So far as Windows is concerned, I use Zone Alarm as a software firewall, and everyone is reasonably happy (even if I'm still a bit annoyed about having a perfectly good router sitting on my desk doing nothing). I have two questions. 1) Is there an equivalent to Zone Alarm for the Linux world - a software firewall that will work out of the box? yes there is - its called ipchains for 2.2.x kernels and iptables for 2.4.x kernels. ipchains/iptables is a part of linux and it offers the possibility to build up a real packet filter firewall by configuring a set of rules for your computer. if u really want to understand what ipchains does and how it does - and if u want to build up your own firewall with your own ruleset i would suggest u reading : 1) for ipchains the IPCHAINS-HOWTO 2) for iptables : man iptables, netfilter-hacking howto, iptables-howto, packetfilter-howto if u just want a quick and easy firewall u can try bastille firewall or tiny firewall (i dunno whether its the same) u can configure it with a gui within the mandrake control center (drakconf), theres a menu-item firewall under security. i dont know much about it because personally i prefer to build my own rules, but basically what it will do is, ask u a set of questions and build a ruleset related to your answers. search the mailing list archives for subject bastille and it should come up with numerous postings regarding bastille firewall(its a frontend to ipchains/iptables i think) 2) If there isn't such a firewall, I'm being swamped by the amount of documentation that I need to read - is there a Newbie's guide to Linux security out there somewhere that will mean that I can block out the hackers while I'm learning the rest of the OS? an excellent source for documentation of all kind is www.linuxdoc.org - they offer all the howtos and also guides (check these out - theres a linux security guide too i think) Thanks, hth --quay - !-- If privacy is outlawed,only outlaws will have privacy -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer for Mandrake 7.2?
Very interesting article It occurs to me that since so few PC's are sold with Linux preloaded, and new XP computers will have their discs formatted in NTFS, within 2 or 3 years Linux will be squeezed out. Consumers will be unable to try out Linux even if they wanted to. Most people are not going to risk losing their windows data by having to reformat their entire disc, and may be worried by Microsofts product activation policy, that they might not be able to go back to windows again without a severe hassle if they were to try it. I'm sure there are good technical reasons why NTFS is used by XP instead of FAT32, but its jolly convenient for Bill that a by effect is to shut out the last remaining competion on the x86 desktop. Derek On Thursday 25 October 2001 6:39 pm, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: Here are some interesting articles I found regarding Microsoft's misuse of monopoly power: http://www.byte.com/documents/s=1115/byt20010824s0001/ http://www.infoanarchy.org/?op=displaystory;sid=2001/10/23/17629/221 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Thanks Sridhar and others for
The suggestion for removing imwheel has given me a smooth wheel mouse on my cordless Logictech mouse for scrolling. Now, any suggestion for getting the third thumb button to work ( ; Thanks Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Software installer problem
Hi. I installed Mandrake 8.1 from ISO images a week ago. Everything's been a breeze until today: the Software Manager has started jamming whenever I try to install something with it. I wanted to install the telnet server stuff. I fired up the Software Manager, dug out telnet-server-krb5, checkboxed it and hit install. The program informed that I also need Xinetd - OK, fine. I moved on. The program requested I insert the first installation CD, which I did. It didn't read anything, spat out the disc and told me to insert the second CD instead. I did as told, waited two minutes - nada. I went for a cup of coffee, came back after fifteen minutes, still nothing. The install simply never started. I repeated this thrice. I tried installing some other package. Nothing worked. Everything was fine last tuesday when I last used the Manager. I'd appreciate any help. +Cinquo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Help with Telnet (Fixed?)
I don't know if this'll work for you guys, but I took a stab
in the dark and now telnet works for me.
I just downloaded the new telnet rpm from rpmfind
(telnet-client-krb-1.2.2-15mdk), and
rpm -Uvh telnetblahblah
and now I'm up and running.
HTH
Edmund
-Original Message-
From: Frans Ketelaars [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 5:45 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Help with Telnet
On Thu, 25 Oct 2001 15:49:05 -0700 (PDT)
Onur Kucuk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- Frans Ketelaars [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes :)
[frans@localhost linux]$ rpm -qa | grep telnet
gnome-telnet-2.4-2mdk
telnet-client-krb5-1.2.2-11mdk
telnet-server-krb5-1.2.2-11mdk
[frans@localhost linux]$ telnet localhost
Trying 127.0.0.1...
Connected to localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1).
Escape character is '^]'.
localhost.localdomain (Linux release 2.4.8-26mdk
#1 Sun Sep 23 17:06:39 CEST 2001) (2)
login: frans
Password:
Last login: Thu Oct 25 23:31:42 from localhost
[frans@localhost frans]$
HTH,
-Frans
Can you tell how ? What we had really wanted to learn
was how to make a telnetd run our systems
[root@zaburt root]# cat /etc/xinetd.conf
#
# Simple configuration file for xinetd
#
# Some defaults, and include /etc/xinetd.d/
defaults
{
instances = 60
log_type= SYSLOG authpriv
log_on_success = HOST PID
log_on_failure = HOST
cps = 25 30
}
includedir /etc/xinetd.d
[root@zaburt root]# cat /etc/xinetd.d/telnet
service telnet
{
# disable = yes
flags = REUSE
log_on_failure += USERID
socket_type = stream
user = root
server = /usr/sbin/telnetd
server_args = -a none
wait = no
}
[root@zaburt root]# rpm -qa |grep telnet
gnome-telnet-2.4-2mdk
ktelnet-0.7b1-10mdk
telnet-client-krb5-1.2.2-15mdk
telnet-server-krb5-1.2.2-15mdk
[root@zaburt root]# /etc/rc.d/init.d/xinetd restart
Stopping xinetd:
[ OK ]
Starting xinetd:
[ OK ]
[root@zaburt root]# telnet localhost
Trying 127.0.0.1...
telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection
refused
[root@zaburt root]# nmap localhost
Starting nmap V. 2.54BETA22 ( www.insecure.org/nmap/ )
Interesting ports on localhost.localdomain
(127.0.0.1):
(The 1535 ports scanned but not shown below are in
state: closed)
Port State Service
21/tcp openftp
22/tcp openssh
111/tcpopensunrpc
631/tcpopencups
839/tcpopenunknown
6000/tcp openX11
32771/tcp opensometimes-rpc5
Nmap run completed -- 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned
in 1 second
Onur
Hi, I just installed telnet yesterday and it just worked. Now the
really strange thing: this morning it had stopped working (I didn't
log out or something). So I removed the mentioned telnet rpm's and
reinstalled them and now it works again:
Starting nmap V. 2.54BETA22 ( www.insecure.org/nmap/ )
Interesting ports on localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1):
(The 1525 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed)
Port State Service
21/tcp openftp
22/tcp openssh
23/tcp opentelnet
25/tcp opensmtp
53/tcp opendomain
80/tcp openhttp
111/tcpopensunrpc
139/tcpopennetbios-ssn
443/tcpopenhttps
891/tcpopenunknown
901/tcpopensamba-swat
953/tcpopenrndc
1023/tcp openunknown
3306/tcp openmysql
5432/tcp openpostgres
6000/tcp openX11
32770/tcp opensometimes-rpc3
Nmap run completed -- 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 1 second
[frans@localhost frans]$ ps -ax | grep telnet
11759 pts/2S 0:00 grep telnet
[frans@localhost frans]$ telnet localhost
Trying 127.0.0.1...
Connected to localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1).
Escape character is '^]'.
localhost.localdomain (Linux release 2.4.8-26mdk #1 Sun
Sep 23 17:06:39 CEST 2001) (0)
login: frans
Password:
Last login: Fri Oct 26 10:55:55 from localhost
[frans@localhost frans]$ ps -ax | grep telnet
11760 pts/2S 0:00 telnet localhost
11761 ?S 0:00 telnetd -a none
11790 pts/0S 0:00 grep telnet
[frans@localhost frans]$
I noticed telnetd is only running after a telnet connection is
established. I did nothing concerning xinetd.d because it's way
over my head :) The following seems is a bit different from
what you get:
[frans@localhost frans]$ cat /etc/xinetd.d/telnet
service telnet
{
disable = no
flags
Re: [newbie] empty /tmp on shutdown
There is something like a Lilo configuration in the MdkControlCenter, in advanced mode there´s an option to empty the /tmp directory Saludos, Gonzalo From: Marc Audard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 13:36:14 Hi, I know that there should be a way to set that /tmp is emptied on shutdown with LM8.0, but I can't remember. Can somebody help? Marc Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Thanks Sridhar and others for
On Fri, 26 Oct 2001 03:41:04 -0700, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The suggestion for removing imwheel has given me a smooth wheel mouse on my cordless Logictech mouse for scrolling. You're welcome :) Now, any suggestion for getting the third thumb button to work ( ; http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/xwin/xmouse.html#button Thanks -- Sridhar Dhanapalan Help me out, and I won't ever call netfilter a heap of stinking dung again. Do we have a deal? -- Linus Torvalds Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Corel instalation
Hi, Does anybody know how to install Corel Photo-Paint for Linux? I have installed it but when I try to start the program it says: unable to add FontTastic font server to the path. The font server is probably not installed or not running. Correct the problem and try again. Actually I don't know what to do, and I can't find solution by myself. Tomek -- Zamow odbitki ze zdjec cyfrowych lub archiwum zdjec na CD! [ http://lab.foto.onet.pl/laboratorium.html ] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] ATI XPERT 2000 AGP 32Mb
Hi, Today I've installed Linux Mandrake 8.0 in my AMD K7 900MHz and I've got the same problem that I had with Mandrake 7.0, 7.2 and RedHat 6 Linux don't support my ATI XPERT 2000 Pro video Card and my LG studioworks 775n screen. Does anyone in the forum knows what can I do for work with those adapters, if there is a driver or a device of similar characteristics? Thanks Berthus PD: Excuse me for my bad English Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Windows humor flash movie
http://www.etplanet.net/downloads/game/WindowsRG.swf mitch Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] text issues
In hoping for a better encore than my last failed question, I'll pose this one to the group: What is the way to solve the horrific font rendering problems with some Linux programs. Konqueror and word processing programs seems to be the worst offenders, but it also gets into control panels, etc so that they become virtually unreadable. David Reynolds -- A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, design a building, write a sonnet, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, solve equations, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. -- Robert Heinlein Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] See what MSN.com has done?
Texstar wrote: On Thursday 25 October 2001 10:13 pm, you wrote: I had no problem viewing MSN.com I must say that off my Linux box using Netscape, it looks better than using IE 5.0/5.5 OR 6.0 Being a newbie to Linux, I can honestly say that Bill the $ Gates will never get any $ from me again. Long lives LINUX rb Microsoft did an about-face Thursday by opening the redesigned MSN.com Web site to some third-party browsers. http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,5098823,00.html?chkpt=zdnnp1tp02 Texstar: Where some does not include Konq. But not to worry; I sent an e-mail to their tech support about it. I wonder what the response will be. Somehow, I don't expect it to be very encouraging... Carroll Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer for Mandrake 7.2?
on 10/26/01 12:13 AM, Franki at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All I wish to say is that the reason the US Judge wanted to split M$ into two or more companies was to split the OS off from the rest of their offerings. So that the application M$ would be on even ground with everyone else writing software so that we continue to have lots of competing software companies out there developing software for the windows platform. But that basically turns it into MS providing Windows as a charity to the industry so other companies can compete on it. Why should they do that? Why does MS have the burden of maintaining and developing an OS, just so other companies can come along and compete with them, sans that heavy burden? If MS is in the position of providing the very OS these companies need to create their products, why shouldn't they be given some incentive? Now I don't think MS should be allowed to bolt all these apps into the OS just so other companies don't stand a chance. But when it comes to developing the apps, an insider's perspective on the OS should be perfectly fine, if not used maliciously. I don't like MS, at all. But I also don't think MS should get shafted just because their MS. A monopoly is not necessarily illegal. There are some benefits a monopoly provides that are perfectly legal, and some that are not. In the case of MS, most everyone wants to just say it's all illegal because they hate MS. Matt _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Windows humor flash movie
On Friday 26 October 2001 07:04 am, you wrote: http://www.etplanet.net/downloads/game/WindowsRG.swf mitch when i click to download this it asks me what to use...i don't know!! pls help... tia -- -michael- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] kapm-idled
i don't think you need to worry, the moment you run something else kapm-idled just 'gives way' and releases cpu cycles, i don't know it's for exactly but i've read that it just uses up 'spare' cycles, i guess it is to do with power managment and being idle bascule On Friday 26 October 2001 4:06 pm, you wrote: How do I kill it? It uses 50%+ of cpu (or that what top and kpm say) I read i have to recompile the kernel but, is there any easier way? I also add append=apm=off to /etc/lilo.conf, but now i have to manually shutdown the system... eerr that`s not the idea. Thanks Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] ATI XPERT 2000 AGP 32Mb
Are you selecting the r_128 driver. The installation may not recognize your card but it is supported for 3d hardware accelleration using the above driver since XF-3.3.6. If your card will not work it may be that you are suffering from a hardware conflict. Charles Thanks Charles, but when I select the RAGE 128 and test it, it appears a black screen when I change to the XFree session using the Alt+F7 keys it says that an error has occurred, if I accept the changes and Reboot the system, after initialize all the process, the systems freezes with the same black screen and I can't change in to the command line pressing the ALT+F1...6 I don't know what to do!! Berthus Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ATI XPERT 2000 AGP 32Mb
I don't know if I know enough to help, but I installed an S3 with 1mb video card onto a i810e motherboard with integrated video card, without being able to disable the i810 video accelerator that my installation on Mandrake 7.2 and earlier versions of redhat just froze. Did you have another video accelerator on board? if so, were you be able to disable it? On Fri, 26 Oct 2001, Charles A Edwards wrote: On Fri, 26 Oct 2001 16:02:22 +0200 Berthus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Today I've installed Linux Mandrake 8.0 in my AMD K7 900MHz and I've got the same problem that I had with Mandrake 7.0, 7.2 and RedHat 6 Linux don't support my ATI XPERT 2000 Pro video Card and my LG studioworks 775n screen. Does anyone in the forum knows what can I do for work with those adapters, if there is a driver or a device of similar characteristics? Thanks Are you selecting the r_128 driver. The installation may not recognize your card but it is supported for 3d hardware accelleration using the above driver since XF-3.3.6. If your card will not work it may be that you are suffering from a hardware conflict. Charles Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Windows humor flash movie
On Friday 26 October 2001 10:04 am, you wrote: http://www.etplanet.net/downloads/game/WindowsRG.swf mitch I've seen this before. Very hilarious!! I'm gonna send it to my co-workers right now! :) -- Terry Sheltra PC Technician/Network Administrator University of Virginia School of Architecture [EMAIL PROTECTED] 434 (or 804) 982.3047 Registered Linux User #218330 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Sorting mail
Thanks, I will be working on fetchmail this weekend. Yes, pobox.com works very well. -Paul --- Ricardo Castanho de O. Freitas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 23 Oct 2001, Paul Schwebel wrote: It's a simple task if you use fetchmail! It will fetch all and every mail and distribute locally to the correct user! It's just like I do with my email and my wife's! You can use fetchmailconf (on X windows) to generate it! It can be a little difficult at the beginning but, don't worry! It IS simple! In case of doubt, just drop me a line! I can send you a sample!(of the necessary '.fetchmailrc' file) []s Ricardo Castanho ps: by the way! I use former Iname, now Mail.com andwell, does pobox.com works? Okay, now that I have my DSL connection up and running, I can get to the problem I _really_ wanted to ask about! This may be a simple case of RTFM, but if . . . use that will sort the mail based on the alias being mine or my wifes. Thanks, -Paul How Do I Work This? Schwebel __ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer for Mandrake 7.2?
On Friday 26 October 2001 07:30 am, you wrote: on 10/26/01 12:13 AM, Franki at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All I wish to say is that the reason the US Judge wanted to split M$ into two or more companies was to split the OS off from the rest of their offerings. So that the application M$ would be on even ground with everyone else writing software so that we continue to have lots of competing software companies out there developing software for the windows platform. But that basically turns it into MS providing Windows as a charity to the industry so other companies can compete on it. Huh?? Why should they do that? Why does MS have the burden of maintaining and developing an OS, just so other companies can come along and compete with them, sans that heavy burden? If Have you ever met anyone who had their life's work bought out for pittance or worse stolen by microsoft in their process of 'developing' the Windows OS?? Their lack of ethics is the stuff legends are made from! MS is in the position of providing the very OS these companies need to create their products, why shouldn't they be given some incentive? You give them your incentive. I'd rather give mine to the open source community- a much more diverse and creative group of people who puke at the thought of toeing the 'party line'.. Now I don't think MS should be allowed to bolt all these apps into the OS just so other companies don't stand a chance. But when it comes to developing the apps, an insider's perspective on the OS should be perfectly fine, if not used maliciously. I don't like MS, at all. But I also don't think MS should get shafted just because their MS. A monopoly is not necessarily illegal. Then why do we have antitrust laws in the US? Would you have us believe that they will reign as 'benevolent dictators'? Monopolies are inherently anti-American and anti-capitalist in that they eliminate competition to produce better products... There are some benefits a monopoly provides that are perfectly legal, and some that are not. In the case of MS, most everyone wants to just say it's all illegal because they hate MS. Matt my semi-rant for today... -- -michael- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] compile errors
On Friday 26 October 2001 02:27 am, you wrote: On Fri, 26 Oct 2001 10:12:14 -0400, Manuel Martin Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i have mandrake 8 with gcc 2.96. I can not compile dlxcc program.th code of this program are in: ftp://max.stanford.edu/pub/max/pub/hennessy-patterson.software/dlx.tar.Z S N I P help me please. thanks. Some apps don't like GCC 2.96. Try switching compilers. To switch to egcs: $ export CC=egcs CXX=egcs++ To switch to GCC 3 (only in Mandrake 8.1, not 8.0): $ export CC=gcc-3.0.1 CXX=gcc-3.0.1 You obviously require the relavant GCC packages to be installed. How cool! When I d/l'ed this (coming from Berkeley I am always intrigued at what the stanford weenies are doing) I got a new message (to me): Error: I can't fork a decompressor. Time for me to RTFM some more! -- -michael- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer for Mandrake 7.2?
on 10/26/01 10:03 AM, michael at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But that basically turns it into MS providing Windows as a charity to the industry so other companies can compete on it. Huh?? That would put MS in the position of providing Windows just so the industry can keep going. Why should they do that? Why does MS have the burden of maintaining and developing an OS, just so other companies can come along and compete with them, sans that heavy burden? If Have you ever met anyone who had their life's work bought out for pittance or worse stolen by microsoft in their process of 'developing' the Windows OS?? Their lack of ethics is the stuff legends are made from! Ethics is one thing, legality is another. I've stated several times in this thread I don't like MS at all. Just because I don't like them doesn't mean I automatically find them guilty. MS is in the position of providing the very OS these companies need to create their products, why shouldn't they be given some incentive? You give them your incentive. I'd rather give mine to the open source community- a much more diverse and creative group of people who puke at the thought of toeing the 'party line'.. I do the same. I do run Linux you know :) This is a perfect example of people letting their emotions get in front of their logic when trying to decide if MS did anything wrong. Then why do we have antitrust laws in the US? To take down monopolies that are anti-competitive. Monopolies are not always illegal. If you live in the US, there's a very good chance your phone, gas and electric companies are all monopolies. Monopolies are inherently anti-American and anti-capitalist in that they eliminate competition to produce better products... Sometimes. Not always. As I've said, monopolies are not automatically illegal. Some of what MS does is illegal as far as monopolistic practices. But some of it is not. Everyone wants to lump *all* of it as being illegal. That's all I'm saying. Matt _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Internet Explorer for Mandrake 7.2?
What drugs are you on??? I doubt anyone that pays 450 bucks (AU) for their shiny new windows OS (HOME) or $650 for the business version. (pro)or $1500 for XP server, would call it a charity,, would you??? That doesn't fit with my idea of a charity,, It wasn't office that made M$ a huge rich monopoly, it was Windows itself.. and I bet that still makes up the majority of their earnings.. and their power. Remember, alot more people buy Windows then buy office.. some people are happy with the crappy Works or Lotus that came bundled with their PC. As for your comment on it being fine for M$ to use the kernel instead of the API's then you havent been reading the thread on this, there are heaps of reasons why that shouldn't be done. security realiability... etc.. By can you honestly say you can think of a nice way for a company to use shortcuts that no-one else has access to? it hasn't happened yet and I really can't see it happening.. If M$ won't let any OEM's sell linux or any other OS dual boot with windows, and you need an OS, then people are not going to have a choise (I am talking about newbies here.) they will get windows, and if what you say is correct, they will use Office, IE, msm messanger, and all the other MS apps that have put their competition out of business or dangerously close to it.. So following your analogy that its alright, then one day you will have windows ZX (or something) Office ZX or something. and .NT ZX or something and it will all fun on the MSI (MicroSoft Internet) Because they have 90% market share on the desktop, and the desktop is mostly what is used to browse the web, send email ect... and .NET ties it all neatly via Passport and such back to their wonderful OS.. So you pay M$ for your lovely copy of windows, then office, and then the big one, you pay to do anything on the internet, because M$ fully plan to charge for everything .NET... they have said this, and they wouldn't do it if their wasn't big bucks to be made from it.. NO competion for apps at all, if MS make it, you use the MS variant because its not possible to make a better one because microsoft won't let you. Not a future I want... what about you? One last point I would bring up, Microsoft got windows to where it is by using the developers, not by any technical merit of the OS itself.. M$ said here is a lovely shiny new OS thats easier to program your apps for then dos, works reasonably well and everyone will be releasing their apps for it soon, so you better as well. and they all jumped on board... not knowing that M$ would use their own software ideas to put them out of business one by one... you want a list? there are hundreds of companies that M$ has settled with after finding out they would lose in court because M$ allegeadly stole code. or using unfair practices like they did with DR DOS, and Netscape and many others. The Windows you speak so highly of, NT/2000/XP was based on work by IBM if I remember correctly. they split off, and went their seperate ways and from that single code body immerged OS2 and windows NT.. and nobody in their right mind would testify that NT was the better OS.. just M$ tactics ensured that very few actually got to find that out for themselves.. They have not and will not ever use their position and advantages fairly in my humble opinion.. after all, why start now? the current methodologies work so well for them... rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Matt Greer Sent: Friday, 26 October 2001 10:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer for Mandrake 7.2? on 10/26/01 12:13 AM, Franki at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All I wish to say is that the reason the US Judge wanted to split M$ into two or more companies was to split the OS off from the rest of their offerings. So that the application M$ would be on even ground with everyone else writing software so that we continue to have lots of competing software companies out there developing software for the windows platform. But that basically turns it into MS providing Windows as a charity to the industry so other companies can compete on it. Why should they do that? Why does MS have the burden of maintaining and developing an OS, just so other companies can come along and compete with them, sans that heavy burden? If MS is in the position of providing the very OS these companies need to create their products, why shouldn't they be given some incentive? Now I don't think MS should be allowed to bolt all these apps into the OS just so other companies don't stand a chance. But when it comes to developing the apps, an insider's perspective on the OS should be perfectly fine, if not used maliciously. I don't like MS, at all. But I also don't think MS should get shafted just because their MS. A monopoly is not necessarily illegal. There are some benefits a monopoly provides that are perfectly legal, and some that are
Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer for Mandrake 7.2?
On Friday 26 October 2001 08:21, you spoke unto me thusly: the Windows OS?? Their lack of ethics is the stuff legends are made from! Ethics is one thing, legality is another. I've stated several times in this thread I don't like MS at all. Just because I don't like them doesn't mean I automatically find them guilty. simple fact, they _are_ guilty. that part of the case is done. -- If you can't make it good, at least make it look good. -Bill Gates, 1994 shane registered linux user #101606 @ http://counter.li.org/ http://www.mystic-light.net/personal/ Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 http://dmoz.org cause humans do it better! Link different. Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Help with Telnet (Fixed?)
Sorry for the incomplete post - I Uvh'd both the telnet client and server
rpms,
and now both are working.
Edmund
-Original Message-
From: Jose M. Sanchez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 11:37 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [newbie] Help with Telnet (Fixed?)
Wait a sec. From your message, you installed the Telnet
-CLIENT- not the
server!
Is your Telnet server now working? (Which is what we are talking
about...)
-JMS
|-Original Message-
|From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Mitchell, Edmund
|Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 8:03 AM
|To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
|Subject: RE: [newbie] Help with Telnet (Fixed?)
|
|
|I don't know if this'll work for you guys, but I took a stab
|in the dark and now telnet works for me.
|I just downloaded the new telnet rpm from rpmfind
|(telnet-client-krb-1.2.2-15mdk), and rpm -Uvh telnetblahblah
|and now I'm up and running.
|
|HTH
|
|Edmund
|
| -Original Message-
| From: Frans Ketelaars [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
| Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 5:45 AM
| To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Subject: Re: [newbie] Help with Telnet
|
|
| On Thu, 25 Oct 2001 15:49:05 -0700 (PDT)
| Onur Kucuk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
|
|
| --- Frans Ketelaars [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| Yes :)
|
| [frans@localhost linux]$ rpm -qa | grep telnet
| gnome-telnet-2.4-2mdk telnet-client-krb5-1.2.2-11mdk
| telnet-server-krb5-1.2.2-11mdk
| [frans@localhost linux]$ telnet localhost
| Trying 127.0.0.1...
| Connected to localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1).
| Escape character is '^]'.
|
| localhost.localdomain (Linux release 2.4.8-26mdk
| #1 Sun Sep 23 17:06:39 CEST 2001) (2)
|
| login: frans
| Password:
| Last login: Thu Oct 25 23:31:42 from localhost
[frans@localhost
| frans]$
|
| HTH,
|
| -Frans
|
| Can you tell how ? What we had really wanted to learn
| was how to make a telnetd run our systems
|
| [root@zaburt root]# cat /etc/xinetd.conf
| #
| # Simple configuration file for xinetd
| #
| # Some defaults, and include /etc/xinetd.d/
|
| defaults
| {
| instances = 60
| log_type= SYSLOG authpriv
| log_on_success = HOST PID
| log_on_failure = HOST
| cps = 25 30
| }
|
| includedir /etc/xinetd.d
|
| [root@zaburt root]# cat /etc/xinetd.d/telnet
| service telnet
| {
| # disable = yes
| flags = REUSE
| log_on_failure += USERID
| socket_type = stream
| user = root
| server = /usr/sbin/telnetd
| server_args = -a none
| wait = no
| }
|
| [root@zaburt root]# rpm -qa |grep telnet gnome-telnet-2.4-2mdk
| ktelnet-0.7b1-10mdk
| telnet-client-krb5-1.2.2-15mdk
| telnet-server-krb5-1.2.2-15mdk
|
| [root@zaburt root]# /etc/rc.d/init.d/xinetd restart
| Stopping xinetd:
| [ OK ]
| Starting xinetd:
| [ OK ]
|
| [root@zaburt root]# telnet localhost
| Trying 127.0.0.1...
| telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
|
| [root@zaburt root]# nmap localhost
|
| Starting nmap V. 2.54BETA22 ( www.insecure.org/nmap/ )
Interesting
| ports on localhost.localdomain
| (127.0.0.1):
| (The 1535 ports scanned but not shown below are in
| state: closed)
| Port State Service
| 21/tcp openftp
| 22/tcp openssh
| 111/tcpopensunrpc
| 631/tcpopencups
| 839/tcpopenunknown
| 6000/tcp openX11
| 32771/tcp opensometimes-rpc5
|
|
| Nmap run completed -- 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned
| in 1 second
|
|
| Onur
|
| Hi, I just installed telnet yesterday and it just worked. Now the
| really strange thing: this morning it had stopped working
(I didn't
| log out or something). So I removed the mentioned telnet rpm's and
| reinstalled them and now it works again:
|
| Starting nmap V. 2.54BETA22 ( www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) Interesting
| ports on localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1): (The 1525
ports scanned
| but not shown below are in state: closed)
| Port State Service
| 21/tcp openftp
| 22/tcp openssh
| 23/tcp opentelnet
| 25/tcp opensmtp
| 53/tcp opendomain
| 80/tcp openhttp
| 111/tcpopensunrpc
| 139/tcpopennetbios-ssn
| 443/tcpopenhttps
| 891/tcpopenunknown
| 901/tcpopensamba-swat
| 953/tcpopenrndc
| 1023/tcp openunknown
| 3306/tcp openmysql
| 5432/tcp openpostgres
| 6000/tcp openX11
[newbie] Rebuilding a kernel src rpm...
Hi all I sucessfully got kernel-2.4.12-5mdk.i586.rpm installed and working on my system.. Then I thought no, I should compile the kernel for i686 or Athlon, which ever I can get working.. Then I started wondering if there was an easier way to do that, like rpm --rebuild kernel* (where * is a src rpm). I have the headers installed and everything else thats relivent.. So I downloaded the 29mb kernel src rpm and gave it a shot.. but that doesn't work. (gives me a no such file or directory error even though the file is there and is not corrupted..) do I really have to go through the whole config compiling shebang just to get an i686 or AMD optimised kernel? Can anyone enlighten me here? I gave up the patience to compile kernels ares ago, I just want something like --rebuild to do all the hard work and make me a .i686.rpm or similiar... rgds Frank Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer for Mandrake 7.2?
yes, mainly the good technical reasons are that if you have xp anywhere in
your network and want to share files from it you need to upgrade all of your
machines to insure everything works correctly.
...spreads like a virus don't it?
On Friday 26 October 2001 03:23, you spoke unto me thusly:
I'm sure there are good technical reasons why NTFS is used by XP instead of
FAT32, but its jolly convenient for Bill that a by effect is to shut out
the last remaining competion on the x86 desktop.
--
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http://dmoz.org cause humans do it better!
Link different.
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Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer for Mandrake 7.2?
on 10/26/01 10:12 AM, Franki at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As for your comment on it being fine for M$ to use the kernel instead of the API's then you havent been reading the thread on this, there are heaps of reasons why that shouldn't be done. security realiability... etc.. It's hardly good coding practice, but it's also not illegal. If MS wants to make shoddy stuff, I'd say that's their choice. By can you honestly say you can think of a nice way for a company to use shortcuts that no-one else has access to? Sure, use your knowledge of the OS to create a better application. If M$ won't let any OEM's sell linux or any other OS dual boot with windows, and you need an OS, then people are not going to have a choise (I am talking about newbies here.) Yes, and that is wrong and most likely illegal. they will get windows, and if what you say is correct, they will use Office, IE, msm messanger, and all the other MS apps that have put their competition out of business or dangerously close to it.. I did not say that at all. I stated I think it's wrong to bolt the MS apps into Windows. Windows should ship like MacOS does, with very little added on. Not a future I want... what about you? Nope. It's also not at all what I was talking about. Whether I think MS is good for the industry is an entirely different matter. I'm simply saying that MS gets accused of illegal practices when not all of them are illegal. I'd love to see MS put in their place, but not by a lynch mob. One last point I would bring up, Microsoft got windows to where it is by using the developers, not by any technical merit of the OS itself.. It's rare that a product is successful on quality alone. Marketing, savvy business decisions, smart contracts (which is what bit Apple), and such are usually what make a product successful. There's no denying MS is very good at that. and they all jumped on board... not knowing that M$ would use their own software ideas to put them out of business one by one... Which is possibly illegal, it depends on how its done. Many of the ways MS has done it is probably illegal. The Windows you speak so highly of Woah, woah. I've never spoken highly of Windows in my life. It's quite possibly the worst family of OSes ever made. NT/2000/XP was based on work by IBM if I remember correctly. they split off, and went their seperate ways and from that single code body immerged OS2 and windows NT Microsoft and IBM co-developed OS2. I just don't think many people can objectively look at Microsoft. Way too many emotions brewing. Matt _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] SoundStudio-1.0.3-5.i586.rpm appears broken
Ok many thanks, I might try looking for a new sound editor, this one appears to be too much trouble than it is worth. Someone told me I should try audacity, and I am testitning it out right now, seems like its decent, no fancy mixing sound on sound yet I think but its good enough for now. On Monday 22 October 2001 11:07 am, Jose M. Sanchez wrote: Heh, it helps if you are in the same directory that contains the SoundStudio-1.0.3-5.i586.rpm file before you execute that command. The rpm command could not find the file, resulting in the error. I could not locate an i586 version of that file on RPMFIND (which I looked for after reading your message below). Nor could I find an MDK version for anything but the Sparc. Ideally you want to use MDK RPM's to avoid problems with other software on your MDK system. In turn if you are downloading a cooker file on a stock 8.x LM install, it's a good idea to try to recompiling, instead of installing from a binary. Though this may not always work. Recompiling rebuilds the i586.rpm file based upon files and libraries already installed in your system. (E.G. rpm --rebuild SoundStudio-1.0.3-5.src.rpm after downloading that file... The resulting file will be located in /usr/src/RPM/RPMS/i586 or /usr/src/RPM/RPMS/i686 ) When it works, you end up with a NEW rpm that is more highly compatible with your existing installation. Note however that cooker RPM's in turn often rely on other libraries programs which may not already be installed in your system. You can actually get into a vicious cycle of upgrades by trying to utilize cooker (and other) RPM's which supercede releases for your system. At best, things will work, at worst you may end up with a highly unstable system. For Ex-Winblows people, using cooker releases is somewhat akin to trying to run software under WinME, written for WindowsXP. Not a good idea, especially on an important system. -JMS |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Newbie |Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 10:05 AM |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: Re: [newbie] SoundStudio-1.0.3-5.i586.rpm appears broken | | |Ok I got it from rpmfind.net it says: | | |[root@kittypuss Production]# rpm -qlf |SoundStudio-1.0.3-5.i586.rpm | more |error: file SoundStudio-1.0.3-5.i586.rpm: No such file or |directory [root@kittypuss Production]# | |On Friday 19 October 2001 04:33 pm, Jose M. Sanchez wrote: | Well first determine if it's in the original RPM... | | (BTW: where did you find the RPM?) | | In the directory you have the RPM type | | rpm -qlf SoundStudio-1.0.3-5.i586.rpm | more (or less) | |and see if | | the file is listed. | | -JMS | | |-Original Message- | |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Newbie | |Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 5:11 PM | |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |Subject: Re: [newbie] SoundStudio-1.0.3-5.i586.rpm appears broken | | | | | |Ok, it is not there, where should I look to get it? | | | |On Friday 19 October 2001 03:51 pm, Jose M. Sanchez wrote: | | Check to be sure that the program studio_tool exists in the | | /usr/lib/SoundStudio directory... | | | | -JMS | | | | |-Original Message- | | |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Newbie | | |Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 2:57 PM | | |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |Subject: [newbie] SoundStudio-1.0.3-5.i586.rpm appears broken | | | | | | | | |Anyone know how to fix these errors? | | | | | |$ studio | | |Error in startup script: couldn't execute | | |/usr/lib/SoundStudio/studio_tool: | | |no such file or directory | | |while executing | | |exec $FILE(Tool) diagnostics | | |(procedure CARDSetter line 5) | | |invoked from within | | |CARDSetter | | |(file /usr/lib/SoundStudio/init.tk line 157) | | |invoked from within | | |source $MYFILES/init.tk | | | | | |(file /usr//bin/studio line 33) | | |$ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Internet Explorer for Mandrake 7.2?
Yeah, I agree, I just disagree with some of your statements, particularly the idea that Microsoft would be developing windows as a charity if they didn't have hidden tricks to make their apps appear better and faster. Windows is their biggest Cash cow, there is no argueing that.. They have been proven to be a money hungry monopoly, there is no denying that either.. there is nothing wrong with a company being money hungry, but when they use developers to get their monopoly (by marketing windows as the platform everyone is releasing apps for) and then making those same developers make half assed apps by not giving then the same advantages that M$ themselves use.. That is patently unfair, and shouldn't be permitted. They got their cashcow because of the developers... they should be forced to not engage in practices that put those develops out of business.. since they would not have gotten their monopoly without them. I have studied this with a great deal of interest over the years.. And I have read huge amouonts of stuff on it, and all of it indicates that M$ know that in the end, they can drag things on for ever, and just continue with the way they are doing things, and they will eventually get away with it.. (the IE debarkle proves that,, M$ kept shipping IE with the OS the whole time of the trial and still are... that sort of proves my point wouldnt' you say?) rgds Frank PS, sorry I said you liked windows, that was uncalled for. :-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Matt Greer Sent: Friday, 26 October 2001 11:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer for Mandrake 7.2? on 10/26/01 10:12 AM, Franki at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As for your comment on it being fine for M$ to use the kernel instead of the API's then you havent been reading the thread on this, there are heaps of reasons why that shouldn't be done. security realiability... etc.. It's hardly good coding practice, but it's also not illegal. If MS wants to make shoddy stuff, I'd say that's their choice. By can you honestly say you can think of a nice way for a company to use shortcuts that no-one else has access to? Sure, use your knowledge of the OS to create a better application. If M$ won't let any OEM's sell linux or any other OS dual boot with windows, and you need an OS, then people are not going to have a choise (I am talking about newbies here.) Yes, and that is wrong and most likely illegal. they will get windows, and if what you say is correct, they will use Office, IE, msm messanger, and all the other MS apps that have put their competition out of business or dangerously close to it.. I did not say that at all. I stated I think it's wrong to bolt the MS apps into Windows. Windows should ship like MacOS does, with very little added on. Not a future I want... what about you? Nope. It's also not at all what I was talking about. Whether I think MS is good for the industry is an entirely different matter. I'm simply saying that MS gets accused of illegal practices when not all of them are illegal. I'd love to see MS put in their place, but not by a lynch mob. One last point I would bring up, Microsoft got windows to where it is by using the developers, not by any technical merit of the OS itself.. It's rare that a product is successful on quality alone. Marketing, savvy business decisions, smart contracts (which is what bit Apple), and such are usually what make a product successful. There's no denying MS is very good at that. and they all jumped on board... not knowing that M$ would use their own software ideas to put them out of business one by one... Which is possibly illegal, it depends on how its done. Many of the ways MS has done it is probably illegal. The Windows you speak so highly of Woah, woah. I've never spoken highly of Windows in my life. It's quite possibly the worst family of OSes ever made. NT/2000/XP was based on work by IBM if I remember correctly. they split off, and went their seperate ways and from that single code body immerged OS2 and windows NT Microsoft and IBM co-developed OS2. I just don't think many people can objectively look at Microsoft. Way too many emotions brewing. Matt _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Windows humor flash movie
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!1 I love it thanx for the laugh, I gotta send this one to a couple of my winblows user buddies hehehehe. thanks again! On Friday 26 October 2001 09:04 am, you wrote: http://www.etplanet.net/downloads/game/WindowsRG.swf mitch Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Windows humor flash movie
On Fri, 26 Oct 2001, michael wrote: It's not for downloading! It's for on-line laughing!! ;-)) Just click on it! []s Ricadro Castanho On Friday 26 October 2001 07:04 am, you wrote: http://www.etplanet.net/downloads/game/WindowsRG.swf mitch when i click to download this it asks me what to use...i don't know!! pls help... tia -- == Linux user # 102240 = Machine # 96125 = Seti@home user == Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] SoundStudio-1.0.3-5.i586.rpm appears broken
O yeah!! I totally forgot about slab, I can snoop around on freshmeat.net, is ok don't worry about the url. I should download the manual again for it and brush up on how it works. Thanks again!! On Friday 26 October 2001 11:42 am, you wrote: if you want fancy stuff do a search for something called SLAB (forgot the url), i got it installed but it was way too complicated for my needs, it looks like a mixing desk and stuff bascule On Friday 26 October 2001 4:45 pm, you wrote: Ok many thanks, I might try looking for a new sound editor, this one appears to be too much trouble than it is worth. Someone told me I should try audacity, and I am testitning it out right now, seems like its decent, no fancy mixing sound on sound yet I think but its good enough for now. O Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Windows humor flash movie
Trevor Byrne wrote: Try the following link to get the latest ? version of Shockwave for Linux. It *says* it's only netscape compatible, but sure it's not a big download so give it a go anyway. Trev. http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/frameset.fhtml?P1_Prod_Vers ion=ShockwaveFlashP2_Platform=LinuxP3_Browser_Version=Netscape4 Download Time Estimate: 2 minutes @ 56K modem Version: 5.0r47 Platform: Linux Browser: Netscape or Netscape-compatible File size: 561 K Date Posted: 1/29/2001 Language: English --- END --- -Original Message- From: michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 October 2001 15:47 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Windows humor flash movie On Friday 26 October 2001 07:46 am, you wrote: You need Shockwave Flash, standalone player or plugin for your browser. Trev. on my sys, when i used mozilla no pblm but konq couldn't play it. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Well, this looks like presentation of Winblows eXePtionaly bad... isn't it??? I am goint to send to all my firends... Tomek -- Zamow odbitki ze zdjec cyfrowych lub archiwum zdjec na CD! [ http://lab.foto.onet.pl/laboratorium.html ] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer for Mandrake 7.2?
On Fri, 26 Oct 2001 11:18:14 -0500, Matt Greer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 10/26/01 10:52 AM, Franki at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, I agree, I just disagree with some of your statements, I think for the most part we agree, we're just arguing the details. particularly the idea that Microsoft would be developing windows as a charity if they didn't have hidden tricks to make their apps appear better and faster. Windows is their biggest Cash cow, there is no argueing that.. Where did this charity idea come from? The proposal was to have two separate companies: one that made OSs and one that made apps. Both are allowed to sell their wares. Making an OS is a risky endeavor. Of the hundreds of computer companies out there, only a handful have ever tried to make an OS. Fewer have attempted consumer OSes. These OSes are essential for the computer industry to do anything. So it's not like Apple, Amiga, Microsoft etc attempted these OSes because they're a bunch of nice people. They did it because they thought they could get something out of it. Separating MS into an applications company and an OS company denies them of one (or more) of the advantages they took the risk to get. Just because their risk really paid off is not a reason to do this. There needs to be more (and yes, I know there is.) They have been proven to be a money hungry monopoly, there is no denying that either.. there is nothing wrong with a company being money hungry, but when they use developers to get their monopoly (by marketing windows as the platform everyone is releasing apps for) and then making those same developers make half assed apps by not giving then the same advantages that M$ themselves use.. That is patently unfair, and shouldn't be permitted. But business is like that. Businesses are evil things :) Pretty much every successful company has done nasty things to get ahead. Whether businesses should have to play nice is another debate entirely IMO. Most businesses generally play by the rules. The largest ones tend to be the most nasty, but few are as nasty as Microsoft. When things get this bad, and threaten the entire world (not only the US), the law must step in. For example, the entire .NET infrastructure infringes on patents held by Intertrust Corp: http://msnbc.com/news/644698.asp The main MS case is actually in the EU, where Microsoft's actions in the server market are being investigated. Everything seems to point to MS being found guilty, meaning that they can be fined 10% of their revenue, which is US$2-3 BILLION. and all of it indicates that M$ know that in the end, they can drag things on for ever, and just continue with the way they are doing things, and they will eventually get away with it.. I dunno, there's still hope. Such as Apache trouncing all over IIS. Redhat gaining ground in the server market, etc. It's very bleak, sure. But I don't think it's totally over just yet. PS, sorry I said you liked windows, that was uncalled for. :-) Heh heh :) That's gotta be one of the worst insults ever! Matt -- Sridhar Dhanapalan Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer for Mandrake 7.2?
Me too ;) On Sat, 27 Oct 2001 00:50:10 +0800, Franki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah,, what he said... :-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Matt Greer Sent: Saturday, 27 October 2001 12:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer for Mandrake 7.2? on 10/26/01 11:20 AM, Loke Kit Kai at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Guys, let stop arguing about these stuffs... It's not going to bring down Microsoft, nor lift up Linux... Why not let microsoft have a taste of its own medicine, by contributing to the development process of Linux, make it user friendly for end users, and make it easy to develop for developers and win them over to this side of the camp! I can agree with that :) and not argue among urselves, and accomplish nothing except to maybe plant seeds of disunity... I hope I haven't stirred any bad feelings. I thought we were just debating, not fighting. Matt -- Sridhar Dhanapalan The box said Requires Windows XP or better. I can't understand why it won't work on my Linux computer. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Cannot write to fat32 partition !?
Hallo! After a fresh install of 8.1 i am not able to write to fat32 partitions as user... here's my /etc/fstab file: --- /dev/hda1 /mnt/win vfat user,exec,rw,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850 0 0 --- Thanks!! -- Joan Tur. Ibiza - Spain [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 11407395 www.ClubIbosim.org Linux: usuari registrat 190.783 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] See what MSN.com has done?
Microsoft did an about-face Thursday by opening the redesigned MSN.com Web site to some third-party browsers. http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,5098823,00.html?chkpt=zdnnp1tp02 Supposedly, but the article stated it would work late last night, well... Mozilla still fails to browse their pathetic site. My query, why the hell would anybody wanna go there anyways?? Since I have an agent that gets my one and only msn account mail (which I have ONLY to have the extra IM client), I have no need or desire to every visit that hole in the internet. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] CDDB
Is there any way to access CDDB when ripping a cd from command line? peace, Rog The guy was all over the place. I had to swerve a number of times before I hit him Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Sylpheed and spell check
In reply to Alan Dunford's words, written Fri, 26 Oct 2001 16:55:38 +0100 For the past few days I have been playing with Sylpheed, a potentially very nice mailer. Unfortunately, my version (0.6.3) lacks a spellchecker and I wonder if anyone out there please happens to know if one can be used and/or if a future version will have one. You can add ispell with the appropriate options under the option of the external editor. A built-in version is not yet in the making. Paul -- We must always have old memories and young hopes. -Arsene Houssaye http://nlpagan.net - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 8.0 - Sylpheed 0.6.3 claws Open Source, Open Minds. Linux. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Flash and Shockwave
Yesterday, I was trying to show of the 'better' OS (Mandrake 8.1) to my daughter, who is a major Harry Potter fan. We went to the Warner Brother's site (http://www.harrypotter.com) to 'enroll' in Hogwarts and go to the Quidditch practice pages. But I kept getting told that I had to install Flash and Shockwave. I checked the plugins on the browser (I tried both Netscape and Mozilla (and Konqueror for that matter)) and they appeared to be installed, but still not working. I tried installing from macromedia's website, but that effort kept crashing the browser. Which leads me to the questions: 1. What browsers in Linux support Flash and Shockwave? 2. Why didn't the installed plugins work? Version conflict? I'm trying to convert the family to Linux, but with demonstrations like these, I just proved to my daughter that things work more smoothly in Windoze. Yuck. -Paul Well, how did I get here? Schwebel __ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Suggestion to Mandrake
Hi... Guys, am I right to say that when user interface is being tested, so far, it is the techies that are doing the testing and evaluating about the user friendlyness of the OS and about the control you have over ur system. I think u guys should now start involving home users, users that aren't even familiar with windows interface, and get their evaluation, to provide the experience that home users are looking for, and yet provide the control that techies are looking for... Why? because for me, Mandrake 8.1, was a bad impression, because I change the default shell to Cshell, and yet, all the basics commands like ls are not working... I still haven't solve that as I'm having exams... but got a lot of help from Tim and Steve... but if u really want to see Mandrake or Linux win over markets dominated by microsoft, it's time to involve the home users whom are equally important if not more, as techies made up only a small fraction of computer users. Let's work together to make Microsoft wake up its idea... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Help with Telnet (Fixed?- No)
Friday, October 26, 2001, 3:02:59 PM, you wrote: ME I don't know if this'll work for you guys, but I took a stab ME in the dark and now telnet works for me. ME I just downloaded the new telnet rpm from rpmfind ME (telnet-client-krb-1.2.2-15mdk), and ME rpm -Uvh telnetblahblah ME and now I'm up and running. ME HTH ME Edmund Well, that is the client part, which did not seem to have trouble. What we are trying to do is to make the server run. Thanks anyway. For Frans Ketelaars, our configurations were the same actually, though I tried with the ones you wrote in the mail, I tried to delete, reinstall and update the latest cooker telnet server, client, xinetd etc. None could take me anywhere :( Nothing seems wrong in the logs, the xinetd startup script works fine etc. I even tried to run it as executable, say, not like daemon, of course nothing changed. There is only one thing that looks strange, when xinetd starts, even if only one server is active, or none is, it starts very slow, though it starts. May someone show me how to accept telnet connections in my MDK 8.1 ? At least before I will loose all my hair :( Onur Kucuk _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDDB
On Fri, 26 Oct 2001 13:16:54 -0400 (EDT), Roger Sherman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any way to access CDDB when ripping a cd from command line? peace, Rog The guy was all over the place. I had to swerve a number of times before I hit him Dunno... It may help to do a search at Freshmeat.net for something like cddb to find a console app which can do this.. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan I wrote code that works. I didn't test it, but the discussion is closed. It might have syntactic problems, but it does work. Better than any kernel extension ever would. End of story. -- Linus Torvalds Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Internet Explorer for Mandrake 7.2?
Linux still have a long way to go, compared to where microsoft is... So, learn from the strength of microsoft, and combine both to win ppl over... and not argue among urselves, and accomplish nothing except to maybe plant seeds of disunity... If Linux really rise up to the occasion, I am willing to bundle linux as the OS in OEM computer... but that is Linux rise up to the occasion. That may be true, but you seem to indicate that it is not user-friendly at all yet, which is hardly the case. I'm not sure how long you've been using some version of linux, but the first one I installed was slackware 2.5 -- it was hardly 'user-friendly' at that point. Want to add a user? Well, you better learn the adduser command. Want to configure bind, apache, or a host of other servers? Better learn to edit the configuration files directly. Want to have networking available? re-compile the kernel. Want to use kde or gnome? Compile them. Slackware was certainly not user friendly -- at least, much less so than things are today. Basically anything that you wanted to do, you had to compile / configure by hand from the command line, since there were virtually no pre-compiled binaries. Today, you've got distributions like Redhat and Mandrake where you can configure virtually everything on the system from a GUI. You don't even have to compile most software anymore -- you just go to rpmdrake or any of the other rpm guis, select a package that you want to install, and it takes care of the rest of it for you. To me, that is at least as user friendly as Windows is, in some cases even more so. -- Michael Viron Registered Linux User #81978 Senior Systems Administration Consultant Web Spinners, University of West Florida Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] problems installing 'kylix'
Hi,
My system is running LM 8.1. When I try to install 'kylix' I get this message:
[root@main kylix_oe]# sh setup.sh
: command not found
: command not found
: command not found
'etup.sh: line 54: syntax error near unexpected token `{
'etup.sh: line 54: `function CheckKernel {
Has someone the same problems?
--
ciao
Michael
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Re: [newbie] Flash and Shockwave
In reply to Paul Schwebel's words, written Fri, 26 Oct 2001 10:45:38 -0700 (PDT) I just fired up Mozilla (running MDK8.0) and that works just A-OK on the site. Paul Yesterday, I was trying to show of the 'better' OS (Mandrake 8.1) to my daughter, who is a major Harry Potter fan. We went to the Warner Brother's site (http://www.harrypotter.com) to 'enroll' in Hogwarts and go to the Quidditch practice pages. But I kept getting told that I had to install Flash and Shockwave. I checked the plugins on the browser (I tried both Netscape and Mozilla (and Konqueror for that matter)) and they appeared to be installed, but still not working. I tried installing from macromedia's website, but that effort kept crashing the browser. Which leads me to the questions: 1. What browsers in Linux support Flash and Shockwave? 2. Why didn't the installed plugins work? Version conflict? I'm trying to convert the family to Linux, but with demonstrations like these, I just proved to my daughter that things work more smoothly in Windoze. Yuck. -Paul Well, how did I get here? Schwebel __ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com -- We must always have old memories and young hopes. -Arsene Houssaye http://nlpagan.net - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 8.0 - Sylpheed 0.6.3 claws Open Source, Open Minds. Linux. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDDB
On Sat, 27 Oct 2001, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: On Fri, 26 Oct 2001 13:16:54 -0400 (EDT), Roger Sherman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any way to access CDDB when ripping a cd from command line? peace, Rog The guy was all over the place. I had to swerve a number of times before I hit him Dunno... It may help to do a search at Freshmeat.net for something like cddb to find a console app which can do this.. OK, thanks man.. peace, Rog The guy was all over the place. I had to swerve a number of times before I hit him Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Radeon VE
On Fri, 26 Oct 2001 18:44:18 +0200 Joan Tur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ejem... what about mine (Radeon VE)? I have no 3D at all using Mandrake 8.1... what do i have to do? Do i have to choose the above driver? How? Thanks!! ;) Joan X as shipped with 8.1 includes all the ATI driver mods for X included. You should be using the Radeon driver. When you installed were you not given the option to install 4.10 with 3d hardware accel? How do you know that you do not have 3d? What does your /etc/X11/XF86Config say? I have 4 ATI cards, 2 Radeons and 2 Xpert 2000s, and all have full 3d out of the box. Charles Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] running wine ?
Hallo! Does any of you know how to run a windows program using wine?? I get the following error: - [quini@quinipc Starcraft]$ winereal starcraft.exe Warning: could not find wine config [Drive x] entry for current working directory /mnt/win/Archivos de programa/Starcraft; starting in windows directory. winereal: cannot find 'starcraft.exe' [quini@quinipc Starcraft]$ Thanks! -- Joan Tur. Ibiza - Spain [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 11407395 www.ClubIbosim.org Linux: usuari registrat 190.783 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Suggestion to Mandrake
I agree 10,000% - I've been saying this for about a year now (since being heavily involved with linux). The typcial response to this is hey, it's open source, you should participate in the testing and give your feedback to Mandrake which is great, but like you I would like to see more formal users group tests. However, this all comes back down to money. One rumour I heard was the the Mandrake development team is comprised of 6 guys slaving away (don't know how true this is), but most certainly they don't have the resources to do full user testing. How about this though? Would anyone like to see a Mandrake User's Group conference kind of like they do for business folks like Nortel and Cisco. If you've never heard of or been to one its usually a 2 or 3 day conference when a company (like Mandrake for example) reserves a big hotel room and they have these really (hopefully) intensive question and answer sessions directly with the users. It's usually kind of pricey but can be pretty cool. Another spin on this would be to have local LUGs host formal user testing sessions with Jane and John Doe. It could be quite cool, for example, you could ask your public library if you could set up 3 or 4 systems in one of their conference rooms one weekend and have an open QA systems testing and do some formal data gathering to report back to Mandrake. This not only would help Mandrake out but could also expose the public to linux even more (which could be a good and a bad thing -- it might turn some folks off real fast). If there is anyone out there that knows how to do formal user interface QA testing I'd be interesting in knowing how to do that. Also, the areas the need to be QA'd from a non-techie user point of view . For example: - system installation - using the office products - using internet products - basic system configuration 101 that everyone needs to know (what would that entail?) - (what else?) Anyway, just some of my thoughts... ps: my thought it Mandrake already knows where the short commings are but just don't have the time and or money resources to address them, so they just give it their best effort. -Original Message- From: Loke Kit Kai [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 12:52 PM To: Mandrake List (E-mail) Subject: [newbie] Suggestion to Mandrake Hi... Guys, am I right to say that when user interface is being tested, so far, it is the techies that are doing the testing and evaluating about the user friendlyness of the OS and about the control you have over ur system. I think u guys should now start involving home users, users that aren't even familiar with windows interface, and get their evaluation, to provide the experience that home users are looking for, and yet provide the control that techies are looking for... Why? because for me, Mandrake 8.1, was a bad impression, because I change the default shell to Cshell, and yet, all the basics commands like ls are not working... I still haven't solve that as I'm having exams... but got a lot of help from Tim and Steve... but if u really want to see Mandrake or Linux win over markets dominated by microsoft, it's time to involve the home users whom are equally important if not more, as techies made up only a small fraction of computer users. Let's work together to make Microsoft wake up its idea... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Flash and Shockwave
On Fri, 26 Oct 2001 19:52:53 -0400 Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In reply to Paul Schwebel's words, written Fri, 26 Oct 2001 10:45:38 -0700 (PDT) I just fired up Mozilla (running MDK8.0) and that works just A-OK on the site. Paul Works great with Opera 5.05TP1 Charles Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Radeon VE
Es Divendres 26 Octubre 2001 20:28, en Charles A Edwards va escriure: X as shipped with 8.1 includes all the ATI driver mods for X included. You should be using the Radeon driver. That's right. My 2D is working fine ;) When you installed were you not given the option to install 4.10 with 3d hardware accel? I don't remember that option?! I think there were 3 options: X v.3, X v.3 with 3D and X v.4 And i've choosen the latest one. How do you know that you do not have 3d? I've run Descent3 from www.lokigames.com and i've got about 1 fps 8-( With FlightGear i've got the same result... What does your /etc/X11/XF86Config say? Hope it's not too long. I add it to this message. Thanks for your answer!! ;) -- Joan Tur. Ibiza - Spain [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 11407395 www.ClubIbosim.org Linux: usuari registrat 190.783 # File generated by XFdrake. # ** # Refer to the XF86Config(4/5) man page for details about the format of # this file. # ** Section Files RgbPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb # Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated together) # By default, Mandrake 6.0 and later now use a font server independent of # the X server to render fonts. FontPath unix/:-1 EndSection # ** # Server flags section. # ** Section ServerFlags # Uncomment this to cause a core dump at the spot where a signal is # received. This may leave the console in an unusable state, but may # provide a better stack trace in the core dump to aid in debugging #NoTrapSignals # Uncomment this to disable the CrtlAltBS server abort sequence # This allows clients to receive this key event. #DontZap # Uncomment this to disable the CrtlAltKP_+/KP_- mode switching # sequences. This allows clients to receive these key events. #DontZoom # This allows the server to start up even if the # mouse device can't be opened/initialised. AllowMouseOpenFail EndSection # ** # Input devices # ** # ** # Keyboard section # ** Section InputDevice Identifier Keyboard1 Driver Keyboard Option AutoRepeat 250 30 Option XkbRules xfree86 Option XkbModel pc105 Option XkbLayout es EndSection # ** # Pointer section # ** Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse1 Driver mouse Option ProtocolMouseManPlusPS/2 Option Device /dev/psaux Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 #Option Emulate3Buttons #Option Emulate3Timeout50 # ChordMiddle is an option for some 3-button Logitech mice #Option ChordMiddle EndSection Section Module # This loads the DBE extension module. Loaddbe Loadglx Loaddri # This loads the miscellaneous extensions module, and disables # initialisation of the XFree86-DGA extension within that module. SubSection extmod #Option omit xfree86-dga EndSubSection # This loads the Type1 and FreeType font modules Loadtype1 Loadfreetype EndSection Section DRI Mode0666 EndSection # ** # Monitor section # ** # Any number of monitor sections may be present Section Monitor Identifier Hitachi CM753 VendorName Hitachi, Ltd. ModelName Unknown # HorizSync is in kHz unless units are specified. # HorizSync may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a # comma separated list of ranges of values. # NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S # USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS. HorizSync 31-107 # VertRefresh is in Hz unless units are specified. # VertRefresh may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a # comma separated list of ranges of values. # NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S # USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS. VertRefresh 50-160 # This is a set of extended mode timings typically used for laptop, # TV fullscreen mode or DVD fullscreen output. # These are available along with standard mode timings. # Sony Vaio C1(X,XS,VE,VN)? # 1024x480 @ 85.6 Hz, 48 kHz hsync ModeLine 1024x48065.00 1024 1032 1176 1344 480 488 494 563 -hsync
Re: [newbie] Flash and Shockwave
In reply to Charles A Edwards's words, written Fri, 26 Oct 2001 14:44:39 -0400 I just fired up Mozilla (running MDK8.0) and that works just A-OK on the site. Paul Works great with Opera 5.05TP1 Ah, yes, Dang. I forgot to get that. I waited til I had cable. And now I have cable and forget that download. Thanks for prodding the old jelly I call memory! Paul -- We must always have old memories and young hopes. -Arsene Houssaye http://nlpagan.net - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 8.0 - Sylpheed 0.6.3 claws Open Source, Open Minds. Linux. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Flash and Shockwave
Did you try the area where you practice Quidditch? The site worked fine for me, too, until I went to Seeker practice I just fired up Mozilla (running MDK8.0) and that works just A-OK on the site. Paul __ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Flash and Shockwave
Did you actually go into the area I mentioned? The site worked fine until I went to practice Quidditch, and that's where I ran into problems. --- Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 26 Oct 2001 19:52:53 -0400 Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In reply to Paul Schwebel's words, written Fri, 26 Oct 2001 10:45:38 -0700 (PDT) I just fired up Mozilla (running MDK8.0) and that works just A-OK on the site. Paul Works great with Opera 5.05TP1 Charles Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Flash and Shockwave
In reply to Paul Schwebel's words, written Fri, 26 Oct 2001 11:49:57 -0700 (PDT) Did you actually go into the area I mentioned? The site worked fine until I went to practice Quidditch, and that's where I ran into problems. Ah, see what you mean. I went to the magical stuff shop and Mozilla froze there. Paul -- We must always have old memories and young hopes. -Arsene Houssaye http://nlpagan.net - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 8.0 - Sylpheed 0.6.3 claws Open Source, Open Minds. Linux. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] running wine ?
JT Hallo! JT Does any of you know how to run a windows program using wine?? I get the JT following error: JT - JT [quini@quinipc Starcraft]$ winereal starcraft.exe JT Warning: could not find wine config [Drive x] entry for current working JT directory /mnt/win/Archivos de programa/Starcraft; starting in windows JT directory. JT winereal: cannot find 'starcraft.exe' JT [quini@quinipc Starcraft]$ JT JT Thanks! The trouble is, that you did not configure wine. You must have a file ~/.wine/config that describes your preferences. (you can find an example in /etc/wine I guess, but you must have the config in your home directory to make it work ). As that config is not there, wine could not find how( c:\blablabla\starcraft etc ) it should name your starcraft folder. Onur Kucuk _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Kicker icons gone
On Friday 26 October 2001 02:57 pm, you wrote: Does anyone know where the kicker icons live? I just went to cooker and installed some kde rpms (libs,base,artwork) and they're all gone!!! I know, I shouldn'ta messed with a good working system, but I wanted to see if Konq was getting faster viz rendering the graphics... Do a rpm --rebuilddb at a su command line and see if they come back. HTH -- Dennis M. registered Linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] alsa or xmms?
I can get alsa player to work on my system, and I get system sounds, but I can not get xmms or any of its' components to make a sound. The CDROM runs and spins and the clock on the xmms gui runs as well as the slider for amount played but no sound, nada, none. I switch to the alsa player and it starts right up? Any ideas? You can't have them both working ? TIA -- Dennis M. registered Linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Cannot write to fat32 partition !?
Just tried mine and also could not also write, I found that the bit below was missing from the fstab line compared to my other vfat partition to which I could write to. user,exec,dev,suid,rw,umask=0, Nev == Joan Tur wrote: Hallo! After a fresh install of 8.1 i am not able to write to fat32 partitions as user... here's my /etc/fstab file: --- /dev/hda1 /mnt/win vfat user,exec,rw,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850 0 0 --- Thanks!! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Radeon VE
Where are you getting x4 with hardware accel? All the mdk 8.1's 3 disc download edition i've installed only show x 336 with and without hardware accel x4 doesn't mention hardware accel. Thanks JDRadio On Friday 26 October 2001 04:46 pm, you wrote: On Fri, 26 Oct 2001 20:49:33 +0200 Joan Tur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Es Divendres 26 Octubre 2001 20:28, en Charles A Edwards va escriure: X as shipped with 8.1 includes all the ATI driver mods for X included. You should be using the Radeon driver. That's right. My 2D is working fine ;) When you installed were you not given the option to install 4.10 with 3d hardware accel? I don't remember that option?! I think there were 3 options: X v.3, X v.3 with 3D and X v.4 And i've choosen the latest one. How do you know that you do not have 3d? I've run Descent3 from www.lokigames.com and i've got about 1 fps 8-( With FlightGear i've got the same result... What does your /etc/X11/XF86Config say? Hope it's not too long. I add it to this message. Thanks for your answer!! ;) Joan I have attached a portion of my FX86Config that relates to the diffs between mine and yours. 1) I have no module section 2) My screen section contains multipule multiple entries including accel Other than those included in 8.1 I have no games, but I installed and can play all of them, have not tried Flight Gear, but have played TuxRacer and Chromium. I have no idea what my fps is, hell don't even remember the command to aquire it. Run XFDrake to reselect your vid setting and ensure that you are running 4.10 with 3d accell. If you have any problem with XFDrake the same can be accomplished in mcc/hardware/display. Another item that can affect vid performance, especially in games is Glide so also verify that you have Mesa and the Mesalibs installed. Hope this can help. Charles Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] See what MSN.com has done?
Goes to show the anti-competitive nature of M$. At 10:23 AM 10/26/2001 -0400, Carroll Grigsby wrote: Texstar wrote: On Thursday 25 October 2001 10:13 pm, you wrote: I had no problem viewing MSN.com I must say that off my Linux box using Netscape, it looks better than using IE 5.0/5.5 OR 6.0 Being a newbie to Linux, I can honestly say that Bill the $ Gates will never get any $ from me again. Long lives LINUX rb Microsoft did an about-face Thursday by opening the redesigned MSN.com Web site to some third-party browsers. http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,5098823,00.html?chkpt=zdnnp1tp02 Texstar: Where some does not include Konq. But not to worry; I sent an e-mail to their tech support about it. I wonder what the response will be. Somehow, I don't expect it to be very encouraging... Carroll Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] See what MSN.com has done?
(using Opera) Attention: Web Browser Upgrade Required to View MSN.com If you are seeing this page, we have detected that the browser that you are using will not render MSN.com correctly. Additionally, you'll see the most advanced functionality of MSN.com only with the latest version of Microsoft Internet Explorer or MSN Explorer. If you wish to visit MSN.com, please select the appropriate download link below. Internet Explorer for Windows Internet Explorer for Macintosh MSN Explorer for Windows ©2001 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. Terms of Use Advertise TRUSTe Approved Privacy Statement GetNetWise -DOH! Kevin St.Amour Teleglobe International 3900 Skyhawk Drive Chantilly, Virginia 20151 * IP Provisioning Engineer *[EMAIL PROTECTED] * www.Teleglobe.com Chantilly, VA USA Office Hours: Monday through Friday 12P.M - 8 P.M. EST - -Original Message- - From: Lee Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] - Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 5:43 PM - To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Subject: Re: [newbie] See what MSN.com has done? - - - Goes to show the anti-competitive nature of M$. - - At 10:23 AM 10/26/2001 -0400, Carroll Grigsby wrote: - Texstar wrote: - - On Thursday 25 October 2001 10:13 pm, you wrote: - I had no problem viewing MSN.com I must say that - off my Linux - box using Netscape, it looks better than using IE 5.0/5.5 OR 6.0 - Being a newbie to Linux, I can honestly say that - Bill the $ - Gates will never get any $ from me again. Long lives LINUX - - rb - - - Microsoft did an about-face Thursday by opening the redesigned - MSN.com Web site to some third-party browsers. - - - http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,5098823,00.htm l?chkpt=zdnnp1tp02 Texstar: Where some does not include Konq. But not to worry; I sent an e-mail to their tech support about it. I wonder what the response will be. Somehow, I don't expect it to be very encouraging... Carroll Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer for Mandrake 7.2?
It will probably still be possible to put in a second drive and dual boot into linux. Someone will have checked it out by now. Just as an aside. Have you noticed how in text mode XP looks like a smiley for someone dead or dying. Elmer Fudd's advice to M$ Be wery wery carefull - he he he. Derek Jennings wrote: Very interesting article It occurs to me that since so few PC's are sold with Linux preloaded, and new XP computers will have their discs formatted in NTFS, within 2 or 3 years Linux will be squeezed out. Consumers will be unable to try out Linux even if they wanted to. Most people are not going to risk losing their windows data by having to reformat their entire disc, and may be worried by Microsofts product activation policy, that they might not be able to go back to windows again without a severe hassle if they were to try it. I'm sure there are good technical reasons why NTFS is used by XP instead of FAT32, but its jolly convenient for Bill that a by effect is to shut out the last remaining competion on the x86 desktop. Derek On Thursday 25 October 2001 6:39 pm, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: Here are some interesting articles I found regarding Microsoft's misuse of monopoly power: http://www.byte.com/documents/s=1115/byt20010824s0001/ http://www.infoanarchy.org/?op=displaystory;sid=2001/10/23/17629/221 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mount umount cdrom (Audio CD Solution)
On Thursday, Oct 25, 2001, Paul Rodríguez wrote: Thanks, Joe. I understand what you mean (I think), but the problem is my machine doesn't have a cdrom0 anywhere. It has a /dev/cdroms/cdrom4 instead. But just before my last reboot it was /dev/cdroms/cdrom3 . I'm not sure why the number is changing. More specifically, this is a devfs problem. As root, remove the files in /lib/dev-state (but leave the directory). After rebooting, /dev/cdrom should be correct. One consequece of this however, is that if you have networking setup for VMware (vmnet* devices), you'll have to run vmware-config.pl again. This fixed it for me. Also, I'm not real sure how permenent of a solution this is, as I haven't been using devfs since because of the security advisory. -- Paul Cox paul at coxcentral dot com Kernel: 2.4.8-30.1mdk - Uptime: 20 hours 14 minutes. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Radeon VE
On Fri, 26 Oct 2001 18:21:50 -0400 JDRadio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where are you getting x4 with hardware accel? All the mdk 8.1's 3 disc download edition i've installed only show x 336 with and without hardware accel x4 doesn't mention hardware accel. I have installed on 5 systems using the 8.1 download. All systems offered X-4.1.0 and all but 1 (S3-Savage) offered X-4.1.0 with 3d hardware accel. If you are not being offered 4.1.0 or 3d accell it is because your vid card is not supported. Check the driver data base at www.xfree.org to be sure. Charles Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Flash and Shockwave
My guess is that this uses the latest flash player. The latest one Macromedia has released for GNU/Linux doesn't have the functionality of the latest they've released for other platforms. That's proprietary software for you... I'm not sure when the next plugin for Linux is coming out. Why don't we write and ask? -Paul Rodríguez On Fri, 2001-10-26 at 14:52, Paul Schwebel wrote: Did you try the area where you practice Quidditch? The site worked fine for me, too, until I went to Seeker practice I just fired up Mozilla (running MDK8.0) and that works just A-OK on the site. Paul __ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com =_1004122401-1734-3348 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] SAMBA and WEBMIN inaccessible
I have tried all kinds of ways that I can think of but am unable to get samba or webmin in konqueror. Have others had this problem? I'm not finding anything in the archives. Running 8.1 and have had no problem like this with 8.0 on this same computer. I suspect it is the Bastille firewall, but don't know what to look for or change to allow access from a user desktop. Any ideas would be appreciated. TIA -- Dennis M. registered Linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Question about kernel update
I am using kernel 2.4.8-26mdk, what kernel am I supposed to update too? The kernel22-2.2.19-19mdk.i586.rpm? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer for Mandrake 7.2?
On Sat, 27 Oct 2001 11:23:47 +1300 Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It will probably still be possible to put in a second drive and dual boot into linux. Someone will have checked it out by now. Just as an aside. Have you noticed how in text mode XP looks like a smiley for someone dead or dying. Elmer Fudd's advice to M$ Be wery wery carefull - he he he. Derek Jennings wrote: Very interesting article It occurs to me that since so few PC's are sold with Linux preloaded, and new XP computers will have their discs formatted in NTFS, within 2 or 3 years Linux will be squeezed out. Consumers will be unable to try out Linux even if they wanted to. Most people are not going to risk losing their windows data by having to reformat their entire disc, and may be worried by Microsofts product activation policy, that they might not be able to go back to windows again without a severe hassle if they were to try it. I'm sure there are good technical reasons why NTFS is used by XP instead of FAT32, but its jolly convenient for Bill that a by effect is to shut out the last remaining competion on the x86 desktop. I think there may be a miss-understanding. PM 7 can perform all its operation on NTFS as used in XP. It is therefore possible to repartition an XP drive and install linux without reformatting the disk, which in most cases would not have worked because on the preinstalled XP system most will have either a restore cd or a hidden partition restore image not a full version XP cd. Linux has never beem able to resize NTFS (a far superior fs to fat) and yet today there are many dual booting NT or Win2k with linux who used a third party program to resize and then partition their hd. Charles Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] A program that will print thumbnails?
I'm looking for a program that will print thumbnails of jpg images. So far, I've tried Pixie (which is great) on LM 8.0 but it doesn't seem to have a print function once the thumbnails are generated. Same thing happens in Gqview. ElectricEyes doesn't seem to be able to generate them. I've not been able to figure out whether I make thumbnails with the Gimp . . . Has anyone generated thumbnails and printed them in ImageMagick? If anyone has had experience with any of these programs and can help out, it would save a lot of experimenting to find the right program. TIA. Andre -- Please pray the Holy Rosary to end the holocaust of abortion and terrorism. For a free Cenacle Scriptural Rosary Booklet -- http://webhart.net/csrb/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Kicker icons gone
On Friday 26 October 2001 03:57 pm, michael wrote: Does anyone know where the kicker icons live? I just went to cooker and installed some kde rpms (libs,base,artwork) and they're all gone!!! I know, I shouldn'ta messed with a good working system, but I wanted to see if Konq was getting faster viz rendering the graphics... The newer kde rpms on cooker need the new libpng3. Search the cooker mailing list for the complete disscussion. You'll see a kludge fix for removing libpng2, and installing libpng3, but it's reported to break other apps. The final fix will be to recompile all those other apps to use libpng3. BTW, the newer cooker kde rpms incorporate objprelinking, but you won't get any speed benefit unless you also get the qt2 rpms and a few other deps. Best solution for now is to use Texstar's 8.x kde rpms, qt2, and deps. http://www.pclinuxonline.com -- Tom Brinkman Galveston Bay, USA chmod +x /bin/Laden.al-Qaeda.Taliban Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Named and internet connection sharing question
I have port 53 open for some reason. I want to close it, but I can't seem to use the built in firewall on mandrake 8.1 to close it. If I shut off named the port closes but I no longer can access the internet with my window box. Is there a way to solve this and have connection sharing and port 53 closed? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Named and internet connection sharing question
Doing this would prevent named/DNS from getting responses back on it's queries to other servers. If you want to prevent inbound queries you need only avoid defining the internet side interface, for named to use. -JMS |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jon Doe |Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 7:42 PM |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: [newbie] Named and internet connection sharing question | | |I have port 53 open for some reason. I want to close it, but I |can't seem to |use the built in firewall on mandrake 8.1 to close it. If I |shut off named |the port closes but I no longer can access the internet with |my window box. Is there a way to solve this and have |connection sharing and port 53 closed? | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Corel instalation
Login as root and execute: mkdir /tmp/corel mv ..PathTo/CorelPHOTOPAINT9LnxRPM.tar.gz /tmp/corel cd /tmp/corel tar xvzf CorelPHOTOPAINT9LnxRPM.tar.gz cd /tmp/corel/dists/redhat/i386 rpm -Uvh libwine-graphics9-glibc-2.1* wine-graphics9-glibc-2.1* rpm -Uvh wpo2000-fonts-core rpm -Uvh --force --noscripts fonttastic-glibc-2.1* rpm -Uvh libaps* graphics9-* rm -Rf /tmp/corel As user: execute: photopaint That's it ! ciao From: Tomek Nowinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Newbie Distribution List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Corel instalation Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 07:50:19 -0600 Hi, Does anybody know how to install Corel Photo-Paint for Linux? I have installed it but when I try to start the program it says: unable to add FontTastic font server to the path. The font server is probably not installed or not running. Correct the problem and try again. Actually I don't know what to do, and I can't find solution by myself. Tomek -- Zamow odbitki ze zdjec cyfrowych lub archiwum zdjec na CD! [ http://lab.foto.onet.pl/laboratorium.html ] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Named and internet connection sharing question
On Friday 26 October 2001 09:54 pm, you wrote: Doing this would prevent named/DNS from getting responses back on it's queries to other servers. If you want to prevent inbound queries you need only avoid defining the internet side interface, for named to use. -JMS Thanks for your reply, unfortunately I am still getting the freeze ups with mandrake. I am downloading and going to install RedHat to see if it changes. My WinXP box hasn't crashed once since I set it up two weeks ago, the mandrake box has had 3 fresh installs and a dozen total freezes to the point I had to power down to get out of it. lol can't have that, I know linux is better than that. Must just be something with my 8.1 cds or with 8.1 in general. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Internet Explorer for Mandrake 7.2?
partition magic can't resize if it is a server version... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Charles A Edwards Sent: 27 October 2001 07:03 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer for Mandrake 7.2? On Sat, 27 Oct 2001 11:23:47 +1300 Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It will probably still be possible to put in a second drive and dual boot into linux. Someone will have checked it out by now. Just as an aside. Have you noticed how in text mode XP looks like a smiley for someone dead or dying. Elmer Fudd's advice to M$ Be wery wery carefull - he he he. Derek Jennings wrote: Very interesting article It occurs to me that since so few PC's are sold with Linux preloaded, and new XP computers will have their discs formatted in NTFS, within 2 or 3 years Linux will be squeezed out. Consumers will be unable to try out Linux even if they wanted to. Most people are not going to risk losing their windows data by having to reformat their entire disc, and may be worried by Microsofts product activation policy, that they might not be able to go back to windows again without a severe hassle if they were to try it. I'm sure there are good technical reasons why NTFS is used by XP instead of FAT32, but its jolly convenient for Bill that a by effect is to shut out the last remaining competion on the x86 desktop. I think there may be a miss-understanding. PM 7 can perform all its operation on NTFS as used in XP. It is therefore possible to repartition an XP drive and install linux without reformatting the disk, which in most cases would not have worked because on the preinstalled XP system most will have either a restore cd or a hidden partition restore image not a full version XP cd. Linux has never beem able to resize NTFS (a far superior fs to fat) and yet today there are many dual booting NT or Win2k with linux who used a third party program to resize and then partition their hd. Charles Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Process Manager
I liked kpm as my process manager in 8.0, but I don't see it in 8.1. What replaces it in 8.1? Barry Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
