Re: [newbie-it] File Temporanei

2003-02-27 Thread syd
* Gabriele Prinelli wrote:
 Ciao a tutti. Qualcuno sa dirmi se e dove si depositano i file temporanei
 internet e come eventualmente eliminarli? 

Nella tua home trovi una sottodirectory nascosta che contiene tutto
cio' che riguarda l'uso del browser inetrnet. Li' dentro trovi una
sottodirectory generalmente chiamata _cache_; la svuoti a manina
oppure tramite il pannello di controllo del tuo browser.
Per mozillone ad esempio il mio percorso e':

file:/home/syd/.mozilla/syd//Cache

 E come comportarsi con i vari tmp?

In genere ogni distro usa degli script che all'avvio ripuliscono i
tmp in base a qualche criterio.
Prenditela comoda, dai uno sguardo a questi script; in genere le
impostazioni di default vanno piu' che bene per un uso normale.

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Re: [newbie-it] BenQ DC1300

2003-02-27 Thread Andrea Celli
On Wed, 26 Feb 2003 19:29:04 +0100
Salvatore Califano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://www.everythinglinux.com.au/item/BEN99900?elinux=f45de1a2d519d71e38532
 c98e48c5b19
Per curiosità, sono andato a vederla.
Però costa $126.50 e 
pesa Weight: 1.300kg/s   :-0 
più di un kilo!!
di cos'è fatta, di piombo? :-)

Non ho ancora una macchinetta digitale, però, se funziona in usb-storage,
dovrebbe bastare attaccarla alla porta usb e montare il device
/usb/sda1 (se è l'unico usb che hai) su una tua directory /mnt/photo.
Almeno, le penne usb funzionano così.

ciao, Andrea 



Re: [newbie-it] BenQ DC1300

2003-02-27 Thread Luigi Pinna
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On Thursday 27 February 2003 10:05, you wrote:
 Non ho ancora una macchinetta digitale, però, se funziona in
 usb-storage, dovrebbe bastare attaccarla alla porta usb e montare il
 device /usb/sda1 (se è l'unico usb che hai) su una tua directory
 /mnt/photo Almeno, le penne usb funzionano così

 ciao, Andrea

Confermo! QUesto e` il riga da aggiungere all'fstab che mi ha passato 
Arwan a fine Dicembre (si riferisce per la mia Nikon Coolpix775 ma solo 
per il nome della directory):

/mnt/nikon /mnt/nikon supermount 
dev=/dev/sda1,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-15,umask=0,sync,codepage=850 
0 0
- -- 
Le ballerine sono coraggiosissime!
Quante donne conoscete in grado di gettarsi tra le braccia di un 
omossessuale sperando che lui le afferri?

Rita Rüdner
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Re: [newbie-it] D-link dfe 538tx

2003-02-27 Thread Andrea Celli
On Wed, 26 Feb 2003 19:25:27 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ok ragazzi, devo ricorrere alla vostra gentilezza ed alle vostre esperienze: ho
 montato una scheda di rete D-link dfe538tx e siccome non ho mai avuto a che fare
 con reti e adattori di rete non so completamante come fare a farla accettare
 alla mia mdk 9.0, so che dovrei cercare il modulo ma non trovo sorgenti di
 driver adatti nel sito d-link. Qualcuno e così gentile da scrivermi un breve how-to?
 

D-link è un assemblatore, devi vedere di che marca è il chipset.
Al 99% è il classico Realtek. 
In ogni caso, non ho mai sentito parlare di chipset per schede ethernet
non supportati da Linux. Le marche si contano sulle punte delle dita
e essenziamente sono Realtek (le più economiche e diffuse) e 3com
(le più care e performanti: ethernet lo hanno inventato loro!). 
Le altre hanno quote di mercato molto limitate.

Facendo la configurazione della rete dal centro di controllo Mandrake, il chipset
dovrebbe essere riconosciuto automaticamente e il relativo modulo verrà caricato
altrettanto automaticamente. 

ciao, Andrea



Re: [newbie-it] Suggerimenti: installazione e pacchetti

2003-02-27 Thread Andrea Celli

 Penso di si anche perchè ho modificato solo quello di cui abbiamo parlato

# supermount -i disable

se ne è discusso a lungo in lista e su tutti i NG

 Dove dovrei andare a vedere?

una lettura utile può essere
http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/admin/amount2.html

ciao, Andrea



R: [newbie-it] BenQ DC1300

2003-02-27 Thread Salvatore Califano

-Messaggio Originale-
Da: Andrea Celli [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Data invio: giovedì 27 febbraio 2003 10.05
Oggetto: Re: [newbie-it] BenQ DC1300


 On Wed, 26 Feb 2003 19:29:04 +0100
 Salvatore Califano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
http://www.everythinglinux.com.au/item/BEN99900?elinux=f45de1a2d519d71e38532
  c98e48c5b19
 Per curiosità, sono andato a vederla.
 Però costa $126.50 e
 pesa Weight: 1.300kg/s   :-0
 più di un kilo!!
 di cos'è fatta, di piombo? :-)

Hanno sbagliato: pesa 62 gr.+2 mini stilo, è una piuma! ;-) Ed ha anche 16Mb
di memoria flash!

 Non ho ancora una macchinetta digitale, però, se funziona in usb-storage,
 dovrebbe bastare attaccarla alla porta usb e montare il device
 /usb/sda1 (se è l'unico usb che hai) su una tua directory /mnt/photo.
 Almeno, le penne usb funzionano così.


Il bello è che non trovo un device sda1, sdb1 o simili!

RinoX




R: [newbie-it] BenQ DC1300

2003-02-27 Thread Salvatore Califano

 Confermo! QUesto e` il riga da aggiungere all'fstab che mi ha passato 
 Arwan a fine Dicembre (si riferisce per la mia Nikon Coolpix775 ma solo 
 per il nome della directory):
 
 /mnt/nikon /mnt/nikon supermount 
 dev=/dev/sda1,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-15,umask=0,sync,codepage=850 
 0 0
 - -- 
Ci ho provato con una riga simile e non funziona! UEEEH!!! :-(((
Adesso provo proprio con questa che mi hai postato e vi faccio sapere...

RinoX




[newbie-it] cambio di filesystem - fdisk

2003-02-27 Thread beo
Salve gente,
ho una partizione vuota formattata ext2. Vorrei cambiare il fs in reiser. Ho provato a 
usare fdisk ma non trovo l'opzione corrispodente. 

Sono il solito cecato o devo usare qualche altro programma?
grazie in anticipo.
GPaolo
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[newbie-it] Informazione

2003-02-27 Thread Vincenzo Scaccia



Cari Ragazzi,
avevo bisogno di una informazione.
Ho creato un dual boot sul mio portatile tra 
Windows XP e Linux la partizione di boot è gestita da Linux
Siccome ho windows Xp che è arrivato e necessita di 
essere reinstallato, cosa mi consigliate di fare per evitare di dover 
reinstallare tutto da capo compreso Linux??
Ciao


Re: R: [newbie-it] BenQ DC1300

2003-02-27 Thread Sandro Porrazzini
Il gio, 2003-02-27 alle 10:46, Salvatore Califano ha scritto:

 Il bello è che non trovo un device sda1, sdb1 o simili!
 
 RinoX

Ciao,
hai provato con un semplice:

mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/tuacartella ?
Ovviamente da root.
Ciao
Sandro
 

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R: [newbie-it] BenQ DC1300

2003-02-27 Thread Salvatore Califano

-Messaggio Originale-
Da: Salvatore Califano [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Data invio: giovedì 27 febbraio 2003 10.48
Oggetto: R: [newbie-it] BenQ DC1300



  Confermo! QUesto e` il riga da aggiungere all'fstab che mi ha passato
  Arwan a fine Dicembre (si riferisce per la mia Nikon Coolpix775 ma solo
  per il nome della directory):
 
  /mnt/nikon /mnt/nikon supermount
  dev=/dev/sda1,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-15,umask=0,sync,codepage=850
  0 0
  - --
 Ci ho provato con una riga simile e non funziona! UEEEH!!! :-(((
 Adesso provo proprio con questa che mi hai postato e vi faccio sapere...

NON FUNZIONA! Da console con un cd mnt/benq mi dà Input/Output Error e non
mi fa entrare dicendo che non ho il permesso NEANCHE DA ROOT! :-(

Adesso scrivo a quel tizio che ha detto che usb-storage mode works fine
with this
camera col cavolo!

RinoX




R: R: [newbie-it] BenQ DC1300

2003-02-27 Thread Salvatore Califano

-Messaggio Originale-
Da: Sandro Porrazzini [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Data invio: giovedì 27 febbraio 2003 12.17
Oggetto: Re: R: [newbie-it] BenQ DC1300


Il gio, 2003-02-27 alle 10:46, Salvatore Califano ha scritto:

 Il bello è che non trovo un device sda1, sdb1 o simili!

 RinoX

Ciao,
hai provato con un semplice:

mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/tuacartella ?
Ovviamente da root.
Ciao
Sandro

Provato e non va, anche perché non trovo alcun dev sda1, sdb1 o simili...

RinoX




Re: R: R: [newbie-it] BenQ DC1300

2003-02-27 Thread Sandro Porrazzini
Il gio, 2003-02-27 alle 12:16, Salvatore Califano ha scritto:
 
 -Messaggio Originale-
 Da: Sandro Porrazzini [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 A: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Data invio: giovedì 27 febbraio 2003 12.17
 Oggetto: Re: R: [newbie-it] BenQ DC1300
 
 
 Il gio, 2003-02-27 alle 10:46, Salvatore Califano ha scritto:
 
  Il bello è che non trovo un device sda1, sdb1 o simili!
 
  RinoX
 
 Ciao,
 hai provato con un semplice:
 
 mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/tuacartella ?
 Ovviamente da root.
 Ciao
 Sandro
 
 Provato e non va, anche perché non trovo alcun dev sda1, sdb1 o simili...
 
 RinoX

Sinceramente non so cosa pensare. Sei sicuro di avere l'usb-storage
attivato (non so se nel kernel o come modulo).
Un'altra cosa: hai qualche altra periferica usb attaccata e funzionante?
Comunque nel pomeriggio guardo l'altra macchina a casa dove ho un
lettore compact flash usb funzionante e vedo se mi ricordo qualcosa.
:-))
Ciao
Sandro


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[newbie-it] Connessione satellitare

2003-02-27 Thread Enrico Piccinini



Ciao a 
tutti,

Sto 
analizzandola possibilità di connettere ad internet un computer veramente 
remoto(in una missione in Africa) e di installargli Linux Mandrake. La 
missione attualmente è dotata di una connessione dial-up lentissima (c'è un solo 
server in tutta l'Etiopia ed è a 1200Km di distanza dalla missione). 


Velocizzare questa connessione porterebbe a tanti 
vantaggi per la trasmissione dati tra la missione e una base logistica in 
Italia. Attualmente la quasi totalità della trasmissione è.."manuale". Ogni 
tanto qualcuno va là e porta a casa, disegni, fotografie,ma la cosa non è 
molto funzionale.

Da 
tempo sento parlare di connessioni con modem satellitari, ma non ho mai avuto 
grosse info. Vi volevo chiedere alcune cose:

- Chi 
produce questi sistemi
- 
Compatibilità con Linux
- 
Costi sia dei modem che delle connessioni
- 
Esistono anche dei modelli che lavorano in modalità bidirezionale (piuttosto che 
solo in download)
- Aree 
geografiche coperte
- Idee 
alternative al modem satellitare
- 
.

Qualsiasi info può essermi utile per provare a 
realizzare questo progetto che ora è solo in embrione.

Un 
saluto a tutti
Enrico


R: R: R: [newbie-it] BenQ DC1300

2003-02-27 Thread Salvatore Califano

-Messaggio Originale-
Da: Sandro Porrazzini [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Data invio: giovedì 27 febbraio 2003 12.28
Oggetto: Re: R: R: [newbie-it] BenQ DC1300


Il gio, 2003-02-27 alle 12:16, Salvatore Califano ha scritto:

 -Messaggio Originale-
 Da: Sandro Porrazzini [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 A: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Data invio: giovedì 27 febbraio 2003 12.17
 Oggetto: Re: R: [newbie-it] BenQ DC1300


 Il gio, 2003-02-27 alle 10:46, Salvatore Califano ha scritto:

  Il bello è che non trovo un device sda1, sdb1 o simili!
 
  RinoX

 Ciao,
 hai provato con un semplice:

 mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/tuacartella ?
 Ovviamente da root.
 Ciao
 Sandro

 Provato e non va, anche perché non trovo alcun dev sda1, sdb1 o simili...

 RinoX

Sinceramente non so cosa pensare. Sei sicuro di avere l'usb-storage
attivato (non so se nel kernel o come modulo).
Un'altra cosa: hai qualche altra periferica usb attaccata e funzionante?
Comunque nel pomeriggio guardo l'altra macchina a casa dove ho un
lettore compact flash usb funzionante e vedo se mi ricordo qualcosa.
:-))
Ciao
Sandro

Forse forse potrebbe dipendere dal fatto che ho l'USB 1.0 e non il 2.0? Sto
vedendo su http://www.linux-usb.org/usb2.html e mi sta venendo il dubbio

Ciao e grazie, RinoX




Re: [newbie-it] Inmancabile semi [ot]

2003-02-27 Thread mauro
Alle 11:29, domenica 23 febbraio 2003, Arwan ha scritto:
 Ebbene... la situazione e' questa: disco fisso da 2gb, formattato in Fat32
 con su Win$95; regolarmente visto dal bios di un P60. Unico disco fisso del
 suddetto PC. Avvio e... disco non di avvio, sostituire e premere un tasto.
 Il bios legge da C e da A; il floppy e' vuoto.
 Prendo il disco fisso, lo monto (sempre da solo) sull'AMD k6 e il sistema
 operativo parte... perche'? Come faccio a farlo andare anche sul P60?

ehm... stavolta provo a rispondere io: resetta il bios e fai ripartire il
 p60 ciao





Re: [newbie-it] Informazione

2003-02-27 Thread Andrea Celli
On Thu, 27 Mar 2003 11:37:40 +0100
Vincenzo Scaccia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Cari Ragazzi,
 avevo bisogno di una informazione.
 Ho creato un dual boot sul mio portatile tra Windows XP e Linux la partizione di 
 boot è gestita da Linux
 Siccome ho windows Xp che è arrivato e necessita di essere reinstallato, cosa mi 
 consigliate di fare per evitare di dover reinstallare tutto da capo compreso Linux??
 Ciao
 

devi reinstallare XP, poi riparti con un floppy di boot o con il primo CD
dell'intallazione. A questo punto entri in modalità rescue (dal cd devi
premere subito F1 e poi seguire istruzioni) a questo punto hai un semplice 
menu che ti permette di ripristinare lilo/grub.
Casomai, provalo prima.

ciao, andrea



Re: [newbie-it] Connessione satellitare

2003-02-27 Thread Andrea Celli
On Thu, 27 Feb 2003 12:27:45 +0100
Enrico Piccinini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 
 Da tempo sento parlare di connessioni con modem satellitari, ma non ho mai
 avuto grosse info. Vi volevo chiedere alcune cose:
 
 - Chi produce questi sistemi
 - Compatibilità con Linux
 - Costi sia dei modem che delle connessioni
 - Esistono anche dei modelli che lavorano in modalità bidirezionale
 (piuttosto che solo in download)
 - Aree geografiche coperte
 - Idee alternative al modem satellitare
 - .
 

Per esister, esistono senz'altro.
Ho visto circa 15 anni fa qualcosa di analogo tra Università di Trento
e CINECA di Bologna.
Il problema sono i costi. Anche senza affittare un intero canale di trasmissione,
come avevano fatto loro, ti servono delle apparecchiature toste per
trasmettere al satelllite.
Io cercherei informazioni su siti australiani o di altri paesi che hanno
problemi di grandi distanze, ma che sono tecnologicamente avanzati.
Poi, dovrai cercare un operatore che disponga di un satellite in orbita
geostazionaria opportuna.

buona fortuna, Andrea



Re: [newbie-it] File Temporanei

2003-02-27 Thread Fabio Manunza
Alle 09:57, giovedì 27 febbraio 2003, syd ha scritto:

  E come comportarsi con i vari tmp?

man logrotate

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Re: [newbie-it] D-link dfe 538tx

2003-02-27 Thread Alessandro Piaser

- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Ok ragazzi, devo ricorrere alla vostra gentilezza ed alle vostre
esperienze: ho
 montato una scheda di rete D-link dfe538tx e siccome non ho mai avuto a
che fare
 con reti e adattori di rete non so completamante come fare a farla
accettare
 alla mia mdk 9.0, so che dovrei cercare il modulo ma non trovo sorgenti di
 driver adatti nel sito d-link. Qualcuno e così gentile da scrivermi un
breve how-to?

Siccome anch'io ho la stessa scheda e a suo tempo ho avuto lo stesso
problema, ma con la mdk 8.0, tanto che avevo mandato una mail ad hardrake,
ti posso dire che ora con la versione 9.0 viene riconosciuta perfettamente
come DFE 538 FX, il modulo utilizzato è
8139too

Nel file modules.conf il sistema mi ha aggiunto in automatico la seguente
riga
alias eth0 8139too

Se hai la confezione dovresti avere anche il dischetto con i vari driver per
diversi sistemi operativi, quelli per linux sono in formato sorgente.
Ti suggerisco, se come me non sei pratico, di far fare tutto ad hardrake.

A me piacerebbe sapere come faccio a controllare se la scheda sta lavorando
in full duplex.

Bye

Alessandro





Re: [newbie-it] Avvio automatico Seti@Home

2003-02-27 Thread Alessandro Piaser

- Original Message -

   Utilizzi anche SetiLog e KSetispy per caso?

 Attualmente no. Avevo provato SetiLog per Win, ma

Ultima domanda, sai per caso quanto ci metti mediamente a completare una
workunit con Win e quanto con Linux?

Bye

Alessandro







RE: [newbie-it] Avvio automatico Seti@Home

2003-02-27 Thread Di Fresco Marco
 Ultima domanda, sai per caso quanto ci metti mediamente a completare una
 workunit con Win e quanto con Linux?

Con Linux devo ancora testare (e devo ancora applicare i consigli che mi
avete suggerito; a propositp grazie ancora).

Con Windows ci metto dalle 11 ore e mezza a 12 (complessive, poi essendo
eseguito solo come screensaver, in realta' ci mette qualche' giorno).



Di Fresco Marco
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[newbie-it] MDK rpm update

2003-02-27 Thread Paolo Tomiato
Dato che controllo quotidianamente il rilascio di aggiornamenti per la sicurezza
ed altro dai mirror di mdk mi chedevo se esistono comandi da lanciare da console
x effettuare questa operazione in modo da nn dover lanciare l'ambiente grafico.





Re: [newbie-it] Problema pppd

2003-02-27 Thread miKe
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Alle 22:38, mercoledì 26 febbraio 2003, kua79 ha scritto:
   Ciao a tutti, sono un nuovo iscritto della lista.
 Ho un problemone con il demone ppp.

prima di lanciare la connessione
dai  #ifconfig eth0 down


bye

miKe

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Re: [newbie-it] cambio di filesystem - fdisk

2003-02-27 Thread miKe
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Alle 11:05, giovedì 27 febbraio 2003, beo ha scritto:
 Salve gente,
 ho una partizione vuota formattata ext2. Vorrei cambiare il fs in
 reiser. Ho provato a usare fdisk ma non trovo l'opzione
 corrispodente.

il tipo indicato da fdisk è '83' sia per ext2 che per reiser
per formattare basta mkreiserfs /dev/partizione

bye

miKe

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[newbie-it] FW: Pulizie di primavera al MandrakeStore!

2003-02-27 Thread Di Fresco Marco
Magari e' un po' OT, ma e' una possibilita' per aiutare l'azienda.

Nelle istruzioni su come ottenere lo sconto, c'e' scritto SEGUIRE  QUESTO LINK, ma 
non viene indicato nessun link (a meno che non fosse quello nella firma, che pero' ho 
dovuto rimuovere perche' linkava direttamente al mio account).



Di Fresco Marco

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 1:54 PM
To: -
Subject: Pulizie di primavera al MandrakeStore!



Pulizie di primavera al MandrakeStore!
==

Nel Mandrakestore, delle brave persone stanno svuotando gli scaffali  relativi
alle scatole della versione 9.0,
questa  una bella opportunit per ottenere un'edizione Powerpack a met
prezzo. I prodotti in questione sono le versioni Powerpack 9.0 in italiano,
tedesco e spagnolo  e la versione in tedesco dell'edizione standard 9.0

Questa operazione valida per tutti gli utenti, diventa anche pi interessante: 
i soci del MandrakeClub interessati che oltre allo sconto del 50% otterranno la
spedizione gratuita. Tutti gli altri otterranno un mese di iscrizione standard
in prova 


Questo sconto non si applica alle versioni in inglese e in francese (che abbiamo
quasi terminato).
Le scorte rimanenti per i prodotti in offerta sono abbastanza limitate, quindi
questa  un'occasione del tipo ora o mai pi.
Comunica  pure queste informazioni a quelli che potrebbero essere interessati 
(in particolar modo a chi non si puo' permettere un PowerPack a prezzo pieno)!
:-)

Come ottenere lo sconto?
--

Questa parte potrebbe anche essere superfula ma non fa mai male abbondare con le
istruzioni:

 *  Raggiungi il  MandrakeStore e 
ordina uno dei prodotti scontati. In alternativa, puoi SEGUIRE  QUESTO LINK e
raggiungere direttamente la pagina per ordinare il Power Pack.  
 * Scegli il prodotto e prosegui
 * Controlla che stai veramente ordinando quello che ti serve e premi 
il pulsante verde Checkout Now per proseguire.
 *  Ora  necessario riempire i campi richiesti (nome, email,
indirizzo...) e procedere con il pagamento. Se il sistema ti riconosce come
iscritto al MandrakeClub, le spese di spedizioni saranno automaticamente pari a
zero (in aggiunta al 50% di sconto).
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R: R: [newbie-it] CX3200 Epson [was: latex e *.jpeg]

2003-02-27 Thread Enrico Piccinini

Come dicevo (e ora posso confermare) la stampante non funziona (come dicevo
ieri con Mike), io ho la stampante connessa ad un PC win$ in rete.

vedi se win$ ha in coda il file di spool passato dal client
il problema potrebbe essere nel nome col quale hai esportato da win$
e/o nella coda che hai indicato

Mi trovi impreparato, non so cosa sia il file di spool, l'ho cercato ma non
l'ho trovato sul PC Win, l'unica cosa che ho fatto è stato controllare il
nome di condivisione che usa win (che è esattamente printer). Quando uso
mandrake control center per trovare la stampante, questa viene vista
correttamente, il problema è che quando mando la pagina in stampa mi dice
qualche cosa del genere: impossibile configurare stampante (questo
immediatamente, senza nemmeno tentare di accedere alla rete).
Non so niente riguardo i driver CUPS, io non ho configurato niente al
riguardo.

Concludo chiedendo a beo se i driver che usa sono quelli della C62 (come ho
letto in giro) oppure quelli della Stylus

Vi saluto ringrazindovi e augurandovi una buona cena per domani sera.

Saluti
Enrico

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Da: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] conto di LukenShiro
Inviato: giovedì 27 febbraio 2003 20.44
A: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Oggetto: Re: R: [newbie-it] CX3200 Epson [was: latex e *.jpeg]


On Thu, 27 Feb 2003, beo wrote:
 Come scanner invece ciccia, ho seguito le indicazioni avute a
 suo tempo da Lukenshiro fino a dove sono riuscito, poi mi sono perso in
 mezzo ad una tonnellata di messaggi di errore :-(( ma riproverò.

 Uhmmm, pero' e' abbastanza strano che non funzioni come scanner (almeno
in locale, non ho esperienze di uso in rete).
 I passaggi sono pochi (anche se con qualche complessita'): se puo'
servire li ripeto in modo piu' umano :P
1) togliere dal file /usr/src/linux/drivers/usb/scanner.c (magari
commentandole tra un /* e */ ) le seguenti righe:

 if (dev-config[0].bNumInterfaces != 1) {
 info(probe_scanner: Only one device interface is supported.);
 return NULL;
}

Questo codice, probabilmente scritto per sbaglio, impedisce il rilevamento
fisico da parte del sistema della seconda interfaccia della multifunzione
(lo scanner, appunto)

 2) ricompilare il kernel o anche i soli moduli con la solita sequenza
(make xconfig  make dep  make clean  make bzImage  make modules 
make modules_install, o, nel secondo caso, dovrebbe bastare make modules
 make modules_install) -- questa e' la parte critica, perche' si spera
che il kernel MDK si ricompili senza problemi, e non e' detto :/
 3) presupponendo che il fetecchioso devfs sia e resti disattivato, creare
un dispositivo di nome p.es. /dev/usbscanner di tipo carattere con major
number 180 e minor number 48 (praticamente con mknod /dev/usbscanner c
180 48);
 4) modificare il file /etc/sane.d/dll.conf, commentando tutte le voci
tranne epson;
 5) modificare il file /etc/sane.d/epson.conf, decommentando o creando (se
non fosse presente) usb /dev/usbscanner e commentando il resto;
 6) modificare il file /etc/modules.conf aggiungendo le righe:
alias char-major-180-48 scanner
options scanner vendor=0x04b8 product=0x802
 7) per fare in modo di eseguire xsane anche da utente dare un
chmod +x `which xsane`

A che punto eri arrivato?

P.S. so per certo, da notizie apprese sulla ML sane-devel, che con la
prossima versione del kernel stabile (la 2.4.21) il driver per gli scanner
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Re: [newbie] Cervisia

2003-02-27 Thread Raffaele Belardi
Cervisia is a graphical front end to CVS, a software versioning system.

raffaele

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I also have something in my Preference Order called Cervisia. Just wondering
if anyone knows what this is?
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Re: [newbie] Backup to CD-R/RW

2003-02-27 Thread Piero Piutti
On Thursday 27 February 2003 07:12, Harv Nelson wrote:

 Is there some sort of backup/restore utility that I can use to make backups
 using the CD-R on my machines? CD-R's cost about a dime each these days.
 That price makes that media much more attractive than investing in a big
 tape drive and tapes..

Mondo Rescue:
http://www.microwerks.net/~hugo/

It should suit your needs perfectly.

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[newbie] urpmi problems

2003-02-27 Thread Vaessen, E.M.J. (Ed)
I thought all the install problems with packages under mandrake 9.0 would be
behind me by following this procedure:

1. Delete all entries in directory /var/lib/urpmi
2. Create file /etc/urpmi/urpmi.cfg with zero length
3. Delete all files /var/cache/urpmi/headers
4. Copy all RPMS amd SRMPS from the Mandrake 9.0 CDROMs to
a_certain_directory
5. Give command urpmi.addmedia Mandrake file://a_certain_directory

Everything seems to go all right but still during package installation the
system manages to come up with errors like package allready installed. Was
this supposed to happen? for packages that are clearly NOT installed. The
database is still containing errors.

Ed

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Re: [newbie] OT- Mandrake OT list

2003-02-27 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 27 Feb 2003 2:43 am, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
 And I've read that some of the UK LUG's have their meetings in
 pubs.
 -- cmg

Where did you hear such scurrilous gossip?  Even if it *is* true g  We meet 
in the 'Head of Steam' pub.

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[newbie] Being a nice guy

2003-02-27 Thread Charles A Edwards
I was just trying to be a nice guy this morning and gave my keyboard 1/2
a cup of coffee with plenty of sugar.
Would you believe that not only did it not thank me, but it began
cursing at me in some foreign language cause I could not understand a
word it wrote.

It just don't pay to be nice to some things.


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Re: [newbie] Being a nice guy

2003-02-27 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Thursday 27 February 2003 08:14 am, Charles A Edwards wrote:
 I was just trying to be a nice guy this morning and gave my keyboard 1/2
 a cup of coffee with plenty of sugar.
 Would you believe that not only did it not thank me, but it began
 cursing at me in some foreign language cause I could not understand a
 word it wrote.

 It just don't pay to be nice to some things.


 Charles

Hey Charles - one of those mornin's, eh? Makes me think of one of the editors 
of a now defunct PC magazine that used to be nice to his keyboard by taking 
it into the shower with him (to clean).

 :-)

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Re: [newbie] boot messages

2003-02-27 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Wednesday 26 February 2003 10:04 am, Josenildo Marques wrote:
 How can I see the boot messages? There seems to be something wrong and I
 want to check it.

 Thanks.

 JM

You can type in dmesg  dmesg.txt and you'll have a file in your home 
directory that you can look at. 

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Re: [newbie] Being a nice guy

2003-02-27 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 27 Feb 2003 1:19 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
 On Thursday 27 February 2003 08:14 am, Charles A Edwards wrote:
  I was just trying to be a nice guy this morning and gave my keyboard 1/2
  a cup of coffee with plenty of sugar.
  Would you believe that not only did it not thank me, but it began
  cursing at me in some foreign language cause I could not understand a
  word it wrote.
 
  It just don't pay to be nice to some things.
 
 
  Charles

 Hey Charles - one of those mornin's, eh? Makes me think of one of the
 editors of a now defunct PC magazine that used to be nice to his keyboard
 by taking it into the shower with him (to clean).

My introduction to diy pc hardware was a lecture in which we were advised to 
clean keyboards in a dishwasher - no heat, no detergent and short wash.  I 
never tried it.

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Re: [newbie] OT- Mandrake OT list

2003-02-27 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Wednesday 26 February 2003 09:43 pm, Carroll Grigsby wrote:

 Tom:
 Easy for you broadband types to say, but how effective is it on plain old
 dialup? (I guess we're talking pph -- pints per hour -- rather than kbs).
 And since when is free beer OT? Maybe for those wine sipping Mac types, but
 Linux comes from a strong beer drinking tradition going back to Linus
 himself. And I've read that some of the UK LUG's have their meetings in
 pubs.
 -- cmg

Label me strange, but if I ever manage to make it over to the UK, will some of 
you Linux using Brits take me to some of your legendary pubs so I can achieve 
maximum orbital velocity? Shouldn't take long - I'm used to American beer!

  :-)

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Re: [newbie] Being a nice guy

2003-02-27 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Thursday 27 February 2003 08:22 am, Anne Wilson wrote:

 My introduction to diy pc hardware was a lecture in which we were advised
 to clean keyboards in a dishwasher - no heat, no detergent and short wash. 
 I never tried it.

 Anne

evil look on face I have a dishwasher here...do you suppose, in the interest 
of science???  

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Re: [newbie] Being a nice guy

2003-02-27 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 27 Feb 2003 1:28 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
 On Thursday 27 February 2003 08:22 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
  My introduction to diy pc hardware was a lecture in which we were advised
  to clean keyboards in a dishwasher - no heat, no detergent and short
  wash. I never tried it.
 
  Anne

 evil look on face I have a dishwasher here...do you suppose, in the
 interest of science???

  :-)

Go on, then! - you will have the webcam set up won't you? g

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Re: [newbie] OT- Mandrake OT list

2003-02-27 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 27 Feb 2003 1:25 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
 On Wednesday 26 February 2003 09:43 pm, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
  Tom:
  Easy for you broadband types to say, but how effective is it on plain old
  dialup? (I guess we're talking pph -- pints per hour -- rather than kbs).
  And since when is free beer OT? Maybe for those wine sipping Mac types,
  but Linux comes from a strong beer drinking tradition going back to Linus
  himself. And I've read that some of the UK LUG's have their meetings in
  pubs.
  -- cmg

 Label me strange, but if I ever manage to make it over to the UK, will some
 of you Linux using Brits take me to some of your legendary pubs so I can
 achieve maximum orbital velocity? Shouldn't take long - I'm used to
 American beer!

   :-)

If you make it to the Huddersfield area, that's a promise

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Re: [newbie] Being a nice guy

2003-02-27 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Thursday 27 February 2003 08:33 am, Anne Wilson wrote:

 Go on, then! - you will have the webcam set up won't you? g

 Anne

Hehehehe, I might want to wait a bit - I'm using one of the older IBM model 
keyboards (clickety-clack!). Weighs about 5 pounds by itself. Methinks that 
could become a semi-lethal weapon in a dishwasher!

I'll wait until I find one of those win keyboards. Wait a minute - I dunno, 
those might just melt into a pile of semi-gelatinous goo... grin

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[newbie] kde rewrites .desktop files

2003-02-27 Thread Jozef Riha
i always manually edit the Icon item (add my path to my icons) in some 
.desktop files (in ~/.kde/share..). the problem is that sometimes kde 
just goes mad and rewrites  all the .desktop files to their original 
state..  this really sets me up. why should i always backup ~/.kde??

do you think that restart X (c+a+bs) might bother?

thank you for your answer,

kind regards,
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Re: [newbie] OT- Mandrake OT list

2003-02-27 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Thursday 27 February 2003 08:34 am, Anne Wilson wrote:

 If you make it to the Huddersfield area, that's a promise

 Anne

Thanks Anne - if we ever do make it across the big pond - deal! :-)

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Re: [newbie] Being a nice guy

2003-02-27 Thread et
On Thursday 27 February 2003 08:28 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
 On Thursday 27 February 2003 08:22 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
  My introduction to diy pc hardware was a lecture in which we were advised
  to clean keyboards in a dishwasher - no heat, no detergent and short
  wash. I never tried it.
 
  Anne

 evil look on face I have a dishwasher here...do you suppose, in the
 interest of science???

  :-)
this subject reminded me of the thread some time ago about what to do with 
used CD disks (llike AOL disks, or old betas) and the consenses seemed to be 
that the best use was to microwave them in a dark room. My wife is now trying 
to get me to get together a few folks who do that, adn get them to be on 
Jerry Springer my mate sneaks out to the garge at night to zap old cdroms, 
adnit is ruining our night life. I volenter to make a video of me sneaking 
out, in my bathrobe, in the middle of the night, to go to the shed to zap old 
cds, if we can get a few others to go on the show with us.
My cordless logitec keyboard took a drink of coffee about 2 weeks ago, and now 
the Fx keys are one number off, so if I want f10, I use f9.  

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Re: [newbie] Being a nice guy

2003-02-27 Thread et
On Thursday 27 February 2003 08:39 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
 On Thursday 27 February 2003 08:33 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
  Go on, then! - you will have the webcam set up won't you? g
 
  Anne

 Hehehehe, I might want to wait a bit - I'm using one of the older IBM model
 keyboards (clickety-clack!). Weighs about 5 pounds by itself. Methinks that
 could become a semi-lethal weapon in a dishwasher!

 I'll wait until I find one of those win keyboards. Wait a minute - I
 dunno, those might just melt into a pile of semi-gelatinous goo... grin
if you really want to try it, I have a bunch of old (but working) keyboards, 
including some old steel backed (ast) and a IBM ps1, and one from a ti88. 

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[newbie] Disk problem

2003-02-27 Thread Robert Golovniov
Hello Mandrake group,

  I have a problem with my harddrive. First of all, I cannot now boot
  into Linux. I get an error message that kernel tries to kill init
  (or something similar). When I try to reinstall the system, Mandrake
  warns me of a wrong disk geometry (240 physical heads?) So, at the
  moment, I cannot do a single thing with it. Do you have any ideas
  how can I fix the problem?

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Re: [newbie] Backup to CD-R/RW

2003-02-27 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Thursday 27 February 2003 16:17, John Richard Smith wrote:
 Harv Nelson wrote:
 Hi
 
 Is there some sort of backup/restore utility that I can use to make
  backups using the CD-R on my machines? CD-R's cost about a dime each
  these days. That price makes that media much more attractive than
  investing in a big tape drive and tapes..
 
 I've got 5 machines on my little network.  Each has a 20 gig HD (or less).
 How about another machine with a couple 50 gig drives that would be used
  just for backing up the others? That would cost about as much as the tape
  drives and tapes.
 
 Another strategy you'd care to suggest?
 
 Thanks a bunch
 
 Harv

 Take a look at Gentoo it comes with partimage is a nice iso file
 you download and write to CD, boot up on it, run it to prompt
 and type partimage . When your've created the partition image
 files you write then to CD and restore from them. I've just
 learnt how to do it and it works, though I've only done it
 with ext2 partition, the manual suggests it works with all file systems
 but as I say I have only tested it so far with the one.

 If anyone is interested I've written(for my own use) a help file.


 John


I'm interested John.
I've got a 40Gb WDC disk that's giving probs once or twice a month.

I keep on telling myself to take the time to back it up before it goes.
It's the time I'm short on:o(
A nice help file like that would be just the push I need:o)

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Re: [newbie] Being a nice guy

2003-02-27 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Thursday 27 February 2003 17:38, Ralph Slooten wrote:
 On Thu, 27 Feb 2003 15:53:12 +

 John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  My son in law spilt a cup of coffee of his keyboard. He told me he
  took it apart and washed in in clean cool water from the tap, and
  dried it out overnight, and it all worked again.

 Just whatever you do, never, and I mean NEVER EVER spill beer on your
 keyboard. Yes, I'm ashamed to admit it, and it is true (although if you ask
 me again I'm blame it on the cat) rinsed, spooled, blowdried... nothing
 helped in the long term.. some keys just stayed stiff. But the scary thing
 was the amount of tobacco under the keys.. I mean I could have rolled about
 400 cigs from it... and now it was just a sticky substance.. blaah. For 17
 euros I bought a new one, regretted it since... this piece of crap is hard
 to type on, skips letters every now and then.

 Sigh, of well, talk about off toppic ;-) LOL


 Greetings
 Ralph

It's the tobacco that does that..makes the keys cushy;o)

A full glass of red wine gives some spectacular effects as well. Just left it 
to dry (got a dozen of those things in the attic for replacement) and 2 days 
later it simply worked again.
Well only the 55 on the numpad gets stuck every now and then.

Coffee (w milk  sugar) is a real killer on  running laptops BTW. Don't try 
it, not even at home! 

Good Luck,
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Re: [newbie] Backup to CD-R/RW

2003-02-27 Thread John Richard Smith
H.J.Bathoorn wrote:

On Thursday 27 February 2003 16:17, John Richard Smith wrote:
 

Harv Nelson wrote:
   

Hi

Is there some sort of backup/restore utility that I can use to make
backups using the CD-R on my machines? CD-R's cost about a dime each
these days. That price makes that media much more attractive than
investing in a big tape drive and tapes..
I've got 5 machines on my little network.  Each has a 20 gig HD (or less).
How about another machine with a couple 50 gig drives that would be used
just for backing up the others? That would cost about as much as the tape
drives and tapes.
Another strategy you'd care to suggest?

Thanks a bunch

Harv
 

Take a look at Gentoo it comes with partimage is a nice iso file
you download and write to CD, boot up on it, run it to prompt
and type partimage . When your've created the partition image
files you write then to CD and restore from them. I've just
learnt how to do it and it works, though I've only done it
with ext2 partition, the manual suggests it works with all file systems
but as I say I have only tested it so far with the one.
If anyone is interested I've written(for my own use) a help file.

John
   



I'm interested John.
I've got a 40Gb WDC disk that's giving probs once or twice a month.
I keep on telling myself to take the time to back it up before it goes.
It's the time I'm short on:o(
A nice help file like that would be just the push I need:o)
TIA,
HarM
 

OK , I attatch the file for everone

John

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===
   GENTOO Bootdisk and backup with PARTIMAGE 
===
21.02.2003  www.gentoo.org
==
Gentoo is a CD bootdisc incorperating Partimage.

Download the ISO file from Partimage website and write to CD.
===
Image file Creation
===

boot up on Gentoo CD and run it to,

cdimage root]# passwd root
New UNIX password : xxx
again : xxx
cdimage root# fsck /dev/hda6  (source directory)
cdimage root# fsck /dev/hda10 (destination directory)
cdimage root# mkdir /mnt/vol7
cdimage root# ls /mnt
cdrom,cloop,vol7
cdimage root# mount  /dev/hda10  /mnt/vol7
cdimage root# cd /mnt/vol7
cdimage vol7]# Partimage --nombr --username=root --password= --volume=70
_
PARTITION IMAGE v 0.6.2
name of file  M90
spanned image size: 716800  ( 700mbx1024bytes)
F5 - enter description - OK - OK
|===100%|

Creates
M90.000  700mb
M90.001  489mb+

==
Restore OS from image file
==
The newly created files are writen to cd's and a spare
rom drive is required, I am using my cd writer.
To Gentoo the writer is /dev/hdd

boot up on Gentoo CD and run it two 

cdimage root# passwd root
New Unix password:XXX
again:xxx
cdimage root#cd /mnt
cdimage mnt#  mkdir cdrom2
cdimage mnt# mount /dev/hdd /mnt/cdrom2 (with CD1 in place)
cdimage mnt# ls cdrom2
M90.000
cdimage mnt# cd
cdimage root#partimage -S restore /dev/hda6 M90.000(simulated)
 partimagerestore /dev/hda6 M90.000( for real )

Restore partition from image file
M9.0 on /dev/hda6 of 4.89gigs
21.02.2003

F5 to continue and OK

Ext2fs info    OK

Restore partition from image file
| = 62%   |

Volume not found
cannot read the following volume file
/mnt/cdrom2/M90.001
enter another full pathe

instead do Alt + F2
cdimage login:root
password: XXX
cdimage root# umount /mnt/cdrom2
replace CD1, with CD2
cdimage root# mount /dev/hdd /mnt/cdrom2
M90.001
cdimage root#

then do Alt + F1,
___
Volume not found
type : /mnt/cdrom2/M90.001 OK

|=100%|

Reboot

==
Note

if you want higher compression them call partimage with

partimage -z2  for bz file creation
default is-z1  for gz file creation

--nombr will not backup the mbr
==
===
list of options
===
usage: partimage [options] action device image_file
   partimage imginfo/restmbr image_file
   
Options:
* -z,  --compress (image file compression level):
  -z0, --compress=0   don't compress: very fast but very big image file
  -z1, --compress=1   compress using gzip: fast and small image file (default)
  -z2, --compress=2   (compress using bzip2: very slow and very small image file):
* -c,  --nocheck   

Re: [newbie] Backup to CD-R/RW

2003-02-27 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Thursday 27 February 2003 19:05, John Richard Smith wrote:


 OK , I attatch the file for everone

 John

Thanks.looks clear enough:o)

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[newbie] Telnet problem

2003-02-27 Thread Gil Katz
Hi
when i try to connect to telnet 127.0.0.1 23 i get 
Trying 127.0.0.1... telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection  
refused
in /var/log/messages i get 
socket creation failed (Address family not supported by protocol (errno = 
97)). service = telnet
What is the problem ?
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Re: [newbie] Telnet problem

2003-02-27 Thread Anders Lind

 Hi
 when i try to connect to telnet 127.0.0.1 23 i get
 Trying 127.0.0.1... telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection
 refused
 in /var/log/messages i get
 socket creation failed (Address family not supported by protocol (errno =
 97)). service = telnet
 What is the problem ?

Is telnetd installed, newer versions of Mandrake doesn't install telnetd
automaticly
IIRC

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Re: [newbie] Being a nice guy

2003-02-27 Thread civileme
On Thursday 27 February 2003 04:14 am, Charles A Edwards wrote:
 I was just trying to be a nice guy this morning and gave my keyboard 1/2
 a cup of coffee with plenty of sugar.
 Would you believe that not only did it not thank me, but it began
 cursing at me in some foreign language cause I could not understand a
 word it wrote.

 It just don't pay to be nice to some things.


 Charles


Next time try a full cup and hold the sugar.  Bet it has acid reflux.  :-)

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Re: [newbie] Being a nice guy

2003-02-27 Thread civileme
On Thursday 27 February 2003 04:28 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
 On Thursday 27 February 2003 08:22 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
  My introduction to diy pc hardware was a lecture in which we were advised
  to clean keyboards in a dishwasher - no heat, no detergent and short
  wash. I never tried it.
 
  Anne

 evil look on face I have a dishwasher here...do you suppose, in the
 interest of science???

  :-)

ROFL  ::wipes tears of mirth::

Ummm, seriously folks...  Most keyboards these days are layers of plastic 
sheeting with a little carbon at vital spots, and what worked just a few 
years ago doesn't work at all any more.

If you want to clean key surfaces, a cloth impregnated with the cleaner for 
dry-erase marker boards (mostly butyl alcohol)  will take off the stains.  If 
you need to remove crumbs, then a small battery-powered vacuum works or if 
you pop off the keycaps and invert the board  

But a close encounter of the sugared or phosphoric acid kind is doom for 
modern keyboards.

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Re: [newbie] Audigy drivers

2003-02-27 Thread Anne Wilson
On Tuesday 04 Feb 2003 12:12 pm, Charles A Edwards wrote:
 Wrong search method, use
 rpm -ql emu10k1-tools

 It will give you a listing of a whole slew of entries.

 If you want to do it by hand you can edit /etc/emu10k1
 There are instruction included in the file.


 Charles

Charles, I still have not got anywhere with this.  Clearly Mandrake does not 
put things where the documentation says they will be, but I found the .conf 
file and edited it.  The instructions then to on to say that I should run 
emu-script, which I can't find.  Can you help me, please?

Anne
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[newbie] Disable internal firewall

2003-02-27 Thread Ruben Sajnovetzky
Hi,

Sorry for the wide disturb.
I have a remote machine installed by someone else.
It is Mandrake 9.0 standard installation (all packages but
not games).
He installed with higher security level and now I can't get in
even by ssh.
I have connectivity (he can ping my machine from the linux box) and
the box has the sshd running (in the standard port)
I think the linux box has an internal firewall that he can disable but I don't
know how.
Also, he hasn't GUI interface, only standard text console (I don't know why).
Can someone help me ?

Thanks.

-
Saludos
Ruben Sajnovetzky
CCNA - NCC
Network Consulting Engineer
Americas International Advanced Services - Matrix Team
Cisco Systems
Ing. Butty 240 - Piso 17
1001 - Buenos Aires - Argentina
Phone: +54-11-4341-0100 x177
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[newbie] error while loading shared libraries: libqt-mt.so.3: cannot

2003-02-27 Thread Juhasz David
Hi!


I installed KDE 3.1 (from Texstar's rpm) on my system. I use Mandrake 
9.0. With the installation went everything fine, but when I am trying to 
start kde with the startkde command it gives me the following error 
massages:

cp: cannot stat `/usr/share/mdk/kde/root-interface/kdeglobals': No 
such file or directory
startkde: Starting up...
ksplash: error while loading shared libraries: libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open 
shared object file: No such file or directory
kdeinit: error while loading shared libraries: libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open 
shared object file: No such file or directory
startkde: Could not start kdeinit. Check your installation.
/usr/bin/startkde: line 223: xmessage: command not found
Warning: connect() failed: : No such file or directory
ksmserver: error while loading shared libraries: libqt-mt.so.3: cannot 
open shared object file: No such file or directory
startkde: Shutting down...
Warning: connect() failed: : No such file or directory
Error: Can't contact kdeinit!
startkde: Running shutdown scripts...
kde-config: error while loading shared libraries: libqt-mt.so.3: cannot 
open shared object file: No such file or directory
startkde: Done.

I found libqt-mt.so.3 on my system in the /usr/lib/qt3/lib directory and 
an other file libqt-mt.so.3.1.1. So whats the problem.I tried to find 
the solution on the internet but I did not find it?. I am a beginner with 
Linux... Can maybe somebody help me, and explain me how to solve 
this problem! Thx:


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Re: [newbie] Disk problem

2003-02-27 Thread civileme
On Thursday 27 February 2003 08:14 am, Robert Golovniov wrote:
 Hello Mandrake group,

   I have a problem with my harddrive. First of all, I cannot now boot
   into Linux. I get an error message that kernel tries to kill init
   (or something similar). When I try to reinstall the system, Mandrake
   warns me of a wrong disk geometry (240 physical heads?) So, at the
   moment, I cannot do a single thing with it. Do you have any ideas
   how can I fix the problem?

Sounds like you are using 7.2 or earlier on a Western Digital Disk.

There were geometry errors there induced by trying to be efficient in using 
the cylinders on the WD (which is a single-platter drive), but later kernels 
straightened the problem.

If you are having the problem on a modern kernel and disk drive, we need a lot 
more information about the drive, the BIOS settings for it, other op systems 
on it, and so on.  There is a kernel message which can force the cylinder, 
head and sector numbers as well, but let's get more information before you 
try that.

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Re: [newbie] Audigy drivers

2003-02-27 Thread Peter Watson
On Thursday 27 Feb 2003 20:11, Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Tuesday 04 Feb 2003 12:12 pm, Charles A Edwards wrote:
  Wrong search method, use
  rpm -ql emu10k1-tools
 
  It will give you a listing of a whole slew of entries.
 
  If you want to do it by hand you can edit /etc/emu10k1
  There are instruction included in the file.
 
 
  Charles

 Charles, I still have not got anywhere with this.  Clearly Mandrake does
 not put things where the documentation says they will be, but I found
 the .conf file and edited it.  The instructions then to on to say that I
 should run emu-script, which I can't find.  Can you help me, please?

 Anne

Anne

I wondered how long before you came back on this. I tried when you first 
raised it and came to exactly the same point your'e at ie where is 
emu-script.

I'll be interesred to hear the answer.
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Re: [newbie] Being a nice guy

2003-02-27 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Thursday 27 February 2003 10:29 am, John Rye wrote:

 (although in my case I use the one the X still complains she never
 did find when she unpacked ;-{ ).

 Cheers

 John

lol thats funny! 

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Re: [newbie] Being a nice guy

2003-02-27 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Thursday 27 February 2003 10:37 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 speaking of keyboards...

 does anyone know if there are any manufactureres who still make
 keyboards with the characters embedded through the entire depth
 of the keypads ike the older models did?  i'm getting tired of
 watching my keys fade as time goes by, and I never mastered
 touchtyping.

 joe

Joe, I'm not sure about new keyboards, but you can still find the old IBM like 
I use. Its heavy (very) keys are solid click style, and the letters do not 
fade unless sand-blasted. Best feel of any keyboard I've ever used. I hate 
most win style keyboards. Just search on the web, you should be able to 
find some good used ones for cheap.

My friend Carl Lafferty says I can use it for personal defense, chock the 
wheels of a car, a shield in medevial tournaments, etc, etc,... grin

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Re: [newbie] Disable internal firewall

2003-02-27 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Thursday 27 February 2003 03:19 pm, Ruben Sajnovetzky wrote:
 Hi,

 Sorry for the wide disturb.
 I have a remote machine installed by someone else.
 It is Mandrake 9.0 standard installation (all packages but
 not games).

 He installed with higher security level and now I can't get in
 even by ssh.

 I have connectivity (he can ping my machine from the linux box) and
 the box has the sshd running (in the standard port)

 I think the linux box has an internal firewall that he can disable but I
 don't know how.
 Also, he hasn't GUI interface, only standard text console (I don't know
 why).

 Can someone help me ?

 Thanks.

Depending on what he's got installed have you tried:

service iptables stop

or

service shorewall stop

One of those should temporarily help. You'll still have to do some changes to 
msec, I think (not sure)

Can someone else familiar with this jump in? I've never used more than the 
standard security setting here.

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RE: [newbie] Being a nice guy

2003-02-27 Thread Sabin, Matthew
Title: RE: [newbie] Being a nice guy





They're also good in a snow storm (shovel with one, or use two for snow-shoes)


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(sorry my last post wasn't in plaintext)


-Original Message-
From: Ronald J. Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 4:45 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Being a nice guy



On Thursday 27 February 2003 10:37 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 speaking of keyboards...

 does anyone know if there are any manufactureres who still make
 keyboards with the characters embedded through the entire depth
 of the keypads ike the older models did? i'm getting tired of
 watching my keys fade as time goes by, and I never mastered
 touchtyping.

 joe


Joe, I'm not sure about new keyboards, but you can still find the old IBM like 
I use. Its heavy (very) keys are solid click style, and the letters do not 
fade unless sand-blasted. Best feel of any keyboard I've ever used. I hate 
most win style keyboards. Just search on the web, you should be able to 
find some good used ones for cheap.


My friend Carl Lafferty says I can use it for personal defense, chock the 
wheels of a car, a shield in medevial tournaments, etc, etc,... grin


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Re: [newbie] Being a nice guy

2003-02-27 Thread robin
civileme wrote:
  If
you need to remove crumbs, then a small battery-powered vacuum works or if 
you pop off the keycaps and invert the board  
Just make sure the nozzle of the vacuum cleaner is smaller than a key. 
I find the etch-a-sketch reboot method works well enough.

When cleaning the surfaces of keys, you need to be careful, as I found 
that when cleaning cheaper, nastier keyboards, even a damp cloth can 
eventually remove the letters.  Good for learning touch-typing, I suppose.

Sir Robin

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Re: [newbie] Audigy drivers

2003-02-27 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Thu, 27 Feb 2003 20:11:09 +
Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Charles, I still have not got anywhere with this.  Clearly Mandrake
 does not put things where the documentation says they will be, but I
 found the .conf file and edited it.  The instructions then to on to
 say that I should run emu-script, which I can't find.  Can you help
 me, please?


To tell the truth all I did was play around with it some.
I edited /etc/emu10k1.conf and the digital sliders were added to mixer.
I have not even tested to find what does or does not work.

I mean I've got a 200watt stereo with Bose speakers in my computer room
so it gets 99% of the calls for music duty.
The SB is primarily for system sound, games and the occasional dvd.

There is a creative IRC channel on Freenode you would probably find
more help there than from me.
You can find some info about it at
http://opensource.creative.com/

Sorry I could not be more helpful.

The documentation for emu10k1-tools is like most other linux docs.
It was written by the programmer and as is too often the case makes no
sense to the average user.
I think it should be required that all docs be written by a
lay-person.But I digress. 


Charles

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[newbie] hooray for rescue

2003-02-27 Thread Richard Babcock
I just (foolishly) installed something called ArkLinux which overwrote my
boot loader. Thanks to ML 9.0 and the rescue option I was back up in no
time. I really love this os!
R
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[newbie] Newbie users question

2003-02-27 Thread Chris
I'm running Mdk 9.0.  Question I have is when system is freshly booted there 
is one user, me.  If I open a console and type users there are now two users, 
both me (chris).  If I log out and back in there are now three users (chris).  
Any idea why or is this just a falicy or bug in 9.0?

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Re: [newbie] Disable internal firewall

2003-02-27 Thread Ruben Sajnovetzky
Well, I stopped the iptables and still not working.
I think I have to change the msec, I made:
Changed to 0 the security_level at /etc/sysconfig/msec
Rebooted
But still the same :-(

At 04:49 PM 2/27/2003 -0500, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
On Thursday 27 February 2003 03:19 pm, Ruben Sajnovetzky wrote:
 Hi,

 Sorry for the wide disturb.
 I have a remote machine installed by someone else.
 It is Mandrake 9.0 standard installation (all packages but
 not games).

 He installed with higher security level and now I can't get in
 even by ssh.

 I have connectivity (he can ping my machine from the linux box) and
 the box has the sshd running (in the standard port)

 I think the linux box has an internal firewall that he can disable but I
 don't know how.
 Also, he hasn't GUI interface, only standard text console (I don't know
 why).

 Can someone help me ?

 Thanks.
Depending on what he's got installed have you tried:

service iptables stop

or

service shorewall stop

One of those should temporarily help. You'll still have to do some changes to
msec, I think (not sure)
Can someone else familiar with this jump in? I've never used more than the
standard security setting here.
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OT: Re: [newbie] What the sHell is foo ? ;-)

2003-02-27 Thread bascule
it's my understanding that it's originally a services term, probably air force

bascule

On Wednesday 26 Feb 2003 4:15 am, Warren Post wrote:
 El lun, 24-02-2003 a las 04:59, Josenildo Marques escribió:
  And why is it used so much in examples ?

 The story as I've heard it is this: Long ago, coders began to use the
 acronym fubar (F*cked Up Beyond All Recognition), which later evolved
 into the more phonetic foobar used today. Being a popular term, both
 foobar and its shortened form foo have since become common
 placeholder terms in examples, to keep examples clearer and less obtuse.

 Thus if you were to ask me, say, How can I read a man page?, I might
 reply To read man page 'foo', enter 'man foo' at the console. It's
 clearer, if less precise, than replying man [options] [section]
 [title].

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Re: [newbie] urpmi problems

2003-02-27 Thread Marc Oestreicher
On Thursday 27 February 2003 03:10, Vaessen, E.M.J. (Ed) wrote:
 I thought all the install problems with packages under mandrake 9.0 would
 be behind me by following this procedure:

 1. Delete all entries in directory /var/lib/urpmi
 2. Create file /etc/urpmi/urpmi.cfg with zero length
 3. Delete all files /var/cache/urpmi/headers
 4. Copy all RPMS amd SRMPS from the Mandrake 9.0 CDROMs to
 a_certain_directory
 5. Give command urpmi.addmedia Mandrake file://a_certain_directory

 Everything seems to go all right but still during package installation the
 system manages to come up with errors like package allready installed. Was
 this supposed to happen? for packages that are clearly NOT installed. The
 database is still containing errors.

 Ed

Try the Mandrake eratta page they discribe this problem and how to fix it 
but I cant remember the details.

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Re: [newbie] kde rewrites .desktop files

2003-02-27 Thread Damian Gatabria
On Thursday 27 de February 2003 11:45, Jozef Riha wrote:
 i always manually edit the Icon item (add my path to my icons) in some
 .desktop files (in ~/.kde/share..). the problem is that sometimes kde
 just goes mad and rewrites  all the .desktop files to their original
 state..  this really sets me up. why should i always backup ~/.kde??

 do you think that restart X (c+a+bs) might bother?

 thank you for your answer,

 kind regards,
 jozef riha

I've seen that happen a lot of times. Make your icon items
the way you like them, and make them read-only. (Remove
your write permission)

HTH

Damian

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[newbie] Fwd: Newbie users question

2003-02-27 Thread Chris
Appologies if this shows up twice but I sent it over two hours ago and it 
still hasn't shown up on the list.


--  Forwarded Message  --

Subject: Newbie users question
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 17:30:39 -0600
From: Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I'm running Mdk 9.0.  Question I have is when system is freshly booted there
is one user, me.  If I open a console and type users there are now two users,
both me (chris).  If I log out and back in there are now three users (chris).
Any idea why or is this just a falicy or bug in 9.0?

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[newbie] problem in installing php on mandrake

2003-02-27 Thread Kurniawan Mitchell
I tried to install php on linux mandrake. However I do
have an error message while do ./configure.

The error message said that  lex . (something)
can not be found.

Is that mean I do need to install some other packages
or I should reconfigure ./configure file(I hope not)

Thank's

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Re: [newbie] problem in installing php on mandrake

2003-02-27 Thread Greg Meyer
On Thursday 27 February 2003 09:39 pm, Kurniawan Mitchell wrote:
 I tried to install php on linux mandrake. However I do
 have an error message while do ./configure.

 The error message said that  lex . (something)
 can not be found.

 Is that mean I do need to install some other packages
 or I should reconfigure ./configure file(I hope not)


Why don't you just install the pre-compiled php packages that come with 
mandrake? 

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[newbie] users question

2003-02-27 Thread Chris

Subject: Newbie users question
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 17:30:39 -0600
From: Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I'm running Mdk 9.0.  Question I have is when system is freshly booted there
is one user, me.  If I open a console and type users there are now two users,
both me (chris).  If I log out and back in there are now three users (chris).
Any idea why or is this just a falicy or bug in 9.0?

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Re: [newbie] problem in installing php on mandrake

2003-02-27 Thread David McGlone
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On Thursday 27 February 2003 09:39 pm, Kurniawan Mitchell wrote:
 I tried to install php on linux mandrake. However I do
 have an error message while do ./configure.

 The error message said that  lex . (something)
 can not be found.

 Is that mean I do need to install some other packages
 or I should reconfigure ./configure file(I hope not)

Post the full error message please.
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Re: [newbie] problem in installing php on mandrake

2003-02-27 Thread David McGlone
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On Thursday 27 February 2003 09:39 pm, Kurniawan Mitchell wrote:
 I tried to install php on linux mandrake. However I do
 have an error message while do ./configure.

 The error message said that  lex . (something)
 can not be found.

 Is that mean I do need to install some other packages
 or I should reconfigure ./configure file(I hope not)

Matter of fact, why use a .tar file?

log in as root in a console and type:

urpmi php
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Re: [newbie] Being a nice guy

2003-02-27 Thread Linus Drouhard
I have a couple of the great old IBM keyboards that my brother in-law
picked up for me for $5 apiece at a thrift shop.  They had boxes of
them.

Linus

On Thu, 2003-02-27 at 15:44, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
 On Thursday 27 February 2003 10:37 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  speaking of keyboards...
 
  does anyone know if there are any manufactureres who still make
  keyboards with the characters embedded through the entire depth
  of the keypads ike the older models did?  i'm getting tired of
  watching my keys fade as time goes by, and I never mastered
  touchtyping.
 
  joe
 
 Joe, I'm not sure about new keyboards, but you can still find the old IBM like 
 I use. Its heavy (very) keys are solid click style, and the letters do not 
 fade unless sand-blasted. Best feel of any keyboard I've ever used. I hate 
 most win style keyboards. Just search on the web, you should be able to 
 find some good used ones for cheap.
 
 My friend Carl Lafferty says I can use it for personal defense, chock the 
 wheels of a car, a shield in medevial tournaments, etc, etc,... grin
 
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[newbie] kde 3.1 installation and config

2003-02-27 Thread sean jacobs
i was wondering if perhaps someone could let me know where the config files 
for the kde start menu are at...i just compiled and installed 3.1 last 
night but can't figure out how exactly to add all the applications that were 
in my old kde menu to my new one. it would be much easier if i could just 
cut/paste some lines from one config file to another rather than using the 
menu editor application to add everything i need. plus i've already 
overwritten most of the old kde binaries so i'm not sure exactly what/where 
everything is that used to be in the menu. i've tried going through ~/.kde 
and even copied that directory from another user account who hadn't used kde 
3.1 yet to my own in hopes that it would provide the same menu configuration 
but i was wrong.

also i can't seem to figure out how to make the new kdm boot kde 3.1.i was 
not able to add fluxbox to kdmrc for 3.0 because it would get overwritten 
after every reboot and when it would not boot kde 3.1 for some reason, i 
started using the kdm for 3.1. now it will boot fluxbox but kde 3.1 just 
makes the screen flicker a few times but goes back to the kdm login, 
eventhough i can boot kde 3.1 with a startx from console. if anyone can 
offer some insight on either of these matters it would definately be 
appreciated, thanks

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Re: [newbie] kde 3.1 installation and config

2003-02-27 Thread Greg Meyer
On Thursday 27 February 2003 10:21 pm, sean jacobs wrote:
 i was wondering if perhaps someone could let me know where the config files
 for the kde start menu are at...i just compiled and installed 3.1 last
 night but can't figure out how exactly to add all the applications that
 were in my old kde menu to my new one. it would be much easier if i could
 just cut/paste some lines from one config file to another rather than using
 the menu editor application to add everything i need. plus i've already
 overwritten most of the old kde binaries so i'm not sure exactly what/where
 everything is that used to be in the menu. i've tried going through ~/.kde
 and even copied that directory from another user account who hadn't used
 kde 3.1 yet to my own in hopes that it would provide the same menu
 configuration but i was wrong.

You have broken your Mandrake menu system by installing kde from source.  The 
rpm packages are provided for a reason because they contain the mandrake menu 
configuration information.  If you want to compile KDE from source AND keep 
your Mandrake menus, you should rebuild the Mandrake src.rpms and install 
from rpm.

You may be able to copy the contents of /usr/share/applnk-mdk to 
/usr/share/applnk, but my experiencesays that msec or something will change 
it back, or perhaps link /usr/share/applnk to /usr/share/applnk-mdk.


 also i can't seem to figure out how to make the new kdm boot kde 3.1.i was
 not able to add fluxbox to kdmrc for 3.0 because it would get overwritten
 after every reboot and when it would not boot kde 3.1 for some reason, i
 started using the kdm for 3.1. now it will boot fluxbox but kde 3.1 just
 makes the screen flicker a few times but goes back to the kdm login,
 eventhough i can boot kde 3.1 with a startx from console. if anyone can
 offer some insight on either of these matters it would definately be
 appreciated, thanks


Did you install to /usr, or elsewhere?

Why would you install from source instead of grabbing the rpms from the Club 
(if you're a member) or Texstar?  Installing something as complex as KDE from 
source just breaks too much in the distro because of the way Mandrake 
integrates it.
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Re: [newbie] Backup to CD-R/RW

2003-02-27 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 12:12:58AM -0600, Harv Nelson wrote:
 Hi
 
 Is there some sort of backup/restore utility that I can use to make backups 
 using the CD-R on my machines? CD-R's cost about a dime each these days.  
 That price makes that media much more attractive than investing in a big tape 
 drive and tapes..
 
 I've got 5 machines on my little network.  Each has a 20 gig HD (or less).  
 How about another machine with a couple 50 gig drives that would be used just 
 for backing up the others? That would cost about as much as the tape drives 
 and tapes.
 
 Another strategy you'd care to suggest?

You can get a hard disk caddy that plugs into a drive bay in the PC.
I put an extra HD in one, and back everything onto it.
No need for an extra whole PC.

Only I have to power teh machine down to put it it or take it out -- it's not 
hot-swappable.

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[newbie] MandrakeClub Renewal

2003-02-27 Thread James Dawson
I have a couple of questions regarding renewing my MandrakeClub membership. My 
finances are rather tight right now so I don't know if I can afford to renew 
at Silver level but I can't find an option online to renew at Bronze level. 
Second, is it possible to renew paying on a month-to-month basis rather than 
a single payment?

Also I'd like to hear from anyone who has purchased the 'Definitive guide to 
using Mandrake Linux' book. It sounds like it could either be an invaluable 
resource or a rehash of the Mandrake documentation. 

Thanks in advance.

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Re: [newbie] Hams on the list

2003-02-27 Thread Larry Williams
And another

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Re: [newbie] MandrakeClub Renewal

2003-02-27 Thread Greg Meyer
On Thursday 27 February 2003 11:07 pm, James Dawson wrote:
 I have a couple of questions regarding renewing my MandrakeClub membership.
 My finances are rather tight right now so I don't know if I can afford to
 renew at Silver level but I can't find an option online to renew at Bronze
 level. Second, is it possible to renew paying on a month-to-month basis
 rather than a single payment?

If you want to downgrade, you have to e-mail Deno.  They are not encouraging 
this for obvious reasons.  But if you want to you can.  AFAIK, there still is 
no option to pay monthly.  I really widh they would explain why they won't or 
cannot do this.  I think they fear that some will join, download StarOffice 
and other premiuum goodies and then block their credit card from further 
charges.  A risk for sure, but it could probably be minimized with certain 
procedures.  I think they could really increase their revenue as a lot more 
people would join if they could pay that way.

 Also I'd like to hear from anyone who has purchased the 'Definitive guide
 to using Mandrake Linux' book. It sounds like it could either be an
 invaluable resource or a rehash of the Mandrake documentation.

I ordered one.  It was just announced today, so I doubt anyone has seen it 
yet.  Deno posted a link to the TOC on the Club site.  I'm sure some of it is 
a rehash, but it looks to me like it has a lot more stuff than the default 
docs, including server configuration and stuff.  I joined the Club instead of 
buying a Pack, so I don't have the 9.0 manuals, so I don't care much if it is 
a rehash.  Also, Deno indicated in a follow-up post that an html version will 
be going up for Club member access.  That might be a reason to skip the book 
and just go for the club membership.
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Re: [newbie] OT- Mandrake OT list

2003-02-27 Thread g


Anne Wilson wrote:

If you make it to the Huddersfield area, that's a promise
know any other orbital establishments?

peace out.

tc,hago.

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Re: [newbie] Being a nice guy

2003-02-27 Thread g


Anne Wilson wrote:

My introduction to diy pc hardware was a lecture in which we were advised to 
clean keyboards in a dishwasher - no heat, no detergent and short wash.  I 
never tried it.
not!!!

best type of cleaner i have found, is are all purpose cleaner / degreaser.
first juice is called 'green magic'. next best is any of cleaner / degreaser
that uses 'orange extract by product'.
pop key caps and drop in a 1 to 1 with water, let sit for about 5 minutes,
wash off, dry with dry cloth. wipe keyboard with wet cloth of mix, sit 5,
wipe with a water damp cloth, wipe with dry cloth.
spray straight on monitor case, sit 5, wipe with a water damp cloth,
wipe with dry cloth.
to clean crt front glass, use a foaming glass cleaner.

peace out.

tc,hago.

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[newbie] dmg file in ~/ directory

2003-02-27 Thread Robert Wideman
Was wondering what these files are for and do.
They are in my home directory (/home/rwideman)

-rw---1 rwideman rwideman  13M Feb 19 09:09 gtk2.dmg
-rw---1 rwideman rwideman 6.8M Feb 19 09:09 qt3.dmg

Thanks
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Re[2]: [newbie] Disk problem

2003-02-27 Thread Robert Golovniov
On Thursday, February 27, 2003, 11:10:46 PM, civileme wrote:

c Sounds like you are using 7.2 or earlier on a Western Digital Disk.

Not exactly. I am running 8.2 on Fujitsu.

c If you are having the problem on a modern kernel and disk drive, we need a lot
c more information about the drive, the BIOS settings for it, other op systems
c on it, and so on.  There is a kernel message which can force the cylinder,
c head and sector numbers as well, but let's get more information before you
c try that.

The BIOS gives this information about the disk: Fujitsu MPG3204AT E.
As for the other OS, I have W2K on the first 2,5Gb partition, which
boot just fine.

Now, when I load Linux, I get a whole page of information. I guess the
problem lies somewhere here. If not, I will write down the rest.

hda: set_drive_speed_status: status=0x6f {DriveReady DeviceFault
DataRequest CorrectedError Index Error}
hda: set_drive_speed_status: error=0x6f {DriveStatusError
UncorrectableError TrackZeroNotFount3, LBAsect=258961263
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
hda: 40022640 sectors (20492 MB) w/44KiB Cache, CHS=2647/240/63
hda: INVALID GEOMETRY: 240 PHYSICAL HEADS?
Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address

[And then about ten more lines with some numbers. Ends up with the
message kernel panic...]

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Re: [newbie] Being a nice guy

2003-02-27 Thread Mark
On Thu, 27 Feb 2003, Ronald J. Hall wrote:

 On Thursday 27 February 2003 08:14 am, Charles A Edwards wrote:
  I was just trying to be a nice guy this morning and gave my keyboard 1/2
  a cup of coffee with plenty of sugar.
  Would you believe that not only did it not thank me, but it began
  cursing at me in some foreign language cause I could not understand a
  word it wrote.
 
  It just don't pay to be nice to some things.
 
 
  Charles
 
 Hey Charles - one of those mornin's, eh? Makes me think of one of the editors 
 of a now defunct PC magazine that used to be nice to his keyboard by taking 
 it into the shower with him (to clean).
 
  :-)

wow! makes me wonder if that kind of intelligence had anything to do with 
the fact that they're no defunct! 

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Re: [newbie] Being a nice guy

2003-02-27 Thread Mark
On Thu, 27 Feb 2003, Ronald J. Hall wrote:

 On Thursday 27 February 2003 08:33 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
 
  Go on, then! - you will have the webcam set up won't you? g
 
  Anne
 
 Hehehehe, I might want to wait a bit - I'm using one of the older IBM model 
 keyboards (clickety-clack!). Weighs about 5 pounds by itself. Methinks that 
 could become a semi-lethal weapon in a dishwasher!
 
 I'll wait until I find one of those win keyboards. Wait a minute - I dunno, 
 those might just melt into a pile of semi-gelatinous goo... grin

Win-keyboard...yes...more commonly known as sh_t!  ;) 

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Re: [newbie] Being a nice guy

2003-02-27 Thread Mark
On Thu, 27 Feb 2003, et wrote:

 On Thursday 27 February 2003 08:28 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
  On Thursday 27 February 2003 08:22 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
   My introduction to diy pc hardware was a lecture in which we were advised
   to clean keyboards in a dishwasher - no heat, no detergent and short
   wash. I never tried it.
  
   Anne
 
  evil look on face I have a dishwasher here...do you suppose, in the
  interest of science???
 
   :-)
 this subject reminded me of the thread some time ago about what to do with 
 used CD disks (llike AOL disks, or old betas) and the consenses seemed to be 
 that the best use was to microwave them in a dark room. My wife is now trying 
 to get me to get together a few folks who do that, adn get them to be on 
 Jerry Springer my mate sneaks out to the garge at night to zap old cdroms, 
 adnit is ruining our night life. I volenter to make a video of me sneaking 
 out, in my bathrobe, in the middle of the night, to go to the shed to zap old 
 cds, if we can get a few others to go on the show with us.
 My cordless logitec keyboard took a drink of coffee about 2 weeks ago, and now 
 the Fx keys are one number off, so if I want f10, I use f9.  

sounds perfectly logical...F1 is now F0! It's now a true binary keyboard. 

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Re: [newbie] Kmail and any others?

2003-02-27 Thread Mark
On Sat, 22 Feb 2003, Yoel P. Krigsman wrote:

 Hello..
 
 I am another newbie on Linux system and I am running Markdrake 9.0 and I am 
 really enjoying learning something new. 
 
 I am currently using KMail and I am wondering if there is any other HTML mail 
 client that I can use? that I am not aware of, Any advise would help!
 
 N.B. some of my HTML mail has picture misisng that it would normally show up 
 on OUTLOOK Express.   
 
 Thanks! 
 
 YPK

HTML mail is evil and should be banned throughout the Universe, but if you 
must and as long as you promise Never to send HTML mail to this list, 
Mozilla will do what you want. 

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