Re: [newbie] RAM question

[crak600]

i just fired up ksim and it says i've got 588M physical ram free.  but why is 
there a discrepancy between what it says when i check memory and in ksim?  
any ideas? 


On Friday 25 July 2003 02:05 am, crak600 wrote:
> ok, i was tooling around and decided to see how much ram i was currently
> using.  i have 768mb installed and linux knows it (running a 950 processor,
> decent speed combo).  so i look at i'm fluctuating between 5 and 20mb of
> free ram left.  so i think this just can't be right, i mean, to use up ALL
> that ram when i all i hvae running is a media player, gaim, mozilla, and
> kmail. so i do a search and i read that it's normal for linux to do this
> because it's not actually using the ramm it's just keeping things stored
> there kinda like a hard disc for when it has to use itor something like
> that.  is that really what it's doing?  the system hasn't been running
> excessively long, only about a day and a half.
>
> anyway, this just boggled me and was wondering if anyone could inform me if
> this is really true or if something is wrong here.  thanks!
>
> Mike


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Re: [newbie] SBr Temp

[magnet]

On Friday 25 Jul 2003 4:37 am, Todd Slater wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 21:51:51 -0500
>
> Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I asked Dennis what this was off-list and hes not sure, so I'll throw
> > this out to the rest.  Below is my "sensors" output, what is SBr temp?
>
> Southbridge?
>
> http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=Pine.HPX.4.43.02040
>40043300.25096-10%40wave
>
>
> Todd

Todd is correct. It's for the South Bridge chip.
http://www.linux.cz/stats/mrtg-rrd/temp.html

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[newbie] RAM question

[crak600]

ok, i was tooling around and decided to see how much ram i was currently 
using.  i have 768mb installed and linux knows it (running a 950 processor, 
decent speed combo).  so i look at i'm fluctuating between 5 and 20mb of free 
ram left.  so i think this just can't be right, i mean, to use up ALL that 
ram when i all i hvae running is a media player, gaim, mozilla, and kmail.  
so i do a search and i read that it's normal for linux to do this because 
it's not actually using the ramm it's just keeping things stored there kinda 
like a hard disc for when it has to use itor something like that.  is 
that really what it's doing?  the system hasn't been running excessively 
long, only about a day and a half.

anyway, this just boggled me and was wondering if anyone could inform me if 
this is really true or if something is wrong here.  thanks!

Mike

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Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures

[Ronald J. Hall]

On Thursday 24 July 2003 11:18 pm, Cody Harris wrote:

> Ha ha, i love doom. My friend makes maps. But these dayz i don't have much
> time. My webhosting business is up to 450 demanding users. And only one of
> me. Busy busy busy!

Sheesh, sounds like it! Good luck to ya... :-)

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Re: [newbie] SBr Temp

[Todd Slater]

On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 21:51:51 -0500
Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I asked Dennis what this was off-list and hes not sure, so I'll throw
> this out to the rest.  Below is my "sensors" output, what is SBr temp?

Southbridge?

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=Pine.HPX.4.43.0204040043300.25096-10%40wave


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Re: [newbie] XFce4 newbie problems

[Brooks3J]

Ok, I've finally got it up and running.  I needed to reboot the computer for KDM to 
show XFce4.  (Was that in your directions?  I apologize, if it was, since that means I 
wasted your time.)  But, I wanted to say thanks a lot for helping me out and creating 
the rpms for XFce4.


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Re: [newbie] Xfce4 and icons

[Todd Slater]

On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 19:21:15 -0300
Josenildo Marques <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> Please, where can I find more icons so that i can have them on the
> panel ? (I know there's plenty of them, but I don't know exactly
> where.) I've also downloaded and installed the menumaker, but I don't
> know what to do now.

Hi,

You can use various themes in the panel. Click the "setup" button in the
panel > go to the panel settings and pick a theme. If you want to
mix and match, the theme icons are located in
/usr/local/share/xfce4/themes if you're using my rpm's.

Or, if you want to further customize the panel, you can find icons in
/usr/share/icons and /usr/share/pixmaps.

Menumaker will overwrite the default xfce4 menu (~/.xfce4/menu.xml), so
back it up if you want to keep it, or specify another output file (I
think it's the -o switch). Run it with "mmaker xfce4". You can find
options by running "mmaker -h".

HTH,
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Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures

[Cody Harris]

- Original Message - 
From: "Ronald J. Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 12:21 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures


> On Thursday 24 July 2003 08:13 pm, Cody Harris wrote:
>
> > Speaking of which...what ever happened to that person?
>
> Wouldn't mess with her, if'n I was you... Avid gamer - she'd probably just
> BFG9000 ya and leave your fragged carcass by the wayside...  

Ha ha, i love doom. My friend makes maps. But these dayz i don't have much
time. My webhosting business is up to 450 demanding users. And only one of
me. Busy busy busy!

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Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures

[Ronald J. Hall]

On Thursday 24 July 2003 08:13 pm, Cody Harris wrote:

> Speaking of which...what ever happened to that person?

Wouldn't mess with her, if'n I was you... Avid gamer - she'd probably just 
BFG9000 ya and leave your fragged carcass by the wayside...  

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Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures

[Ronald J. Hall]

On Thursday 24 July 2003 07:07 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote:

> Tanx mate. Living on karma.

Can I buy that in a six pack? 

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Re: [newbie] DiskDrake: Unmounting /dev/dha6 aka /home.

[ed tharp]

On Thu, 2003-07-24 at 17:19, Robin Turner wrote:
> Sharrea wrote:
> > On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 19:32, James Henry Maiewski wrote:
> > 
> >>Hello,
> >>
> >>I've been trying to create an new partition on my only hard drive. 
> >>According to the directions, I need to unmount the partition, but
> >>clicking "unmount" in DiskDrake has no effect.  'umount /dev/hsa6' tells
> >>me that the device is busy. How do I procede?
> > 
> > 
> > Not sure whether this will work or not.  But you could try logging in as 
> > root so the /home dir is not being used at all and then running diskdrake.
> 
> I think /home gets mounted automatically.  Either edit it out of 
> /etc/fstab, or boot uo in recuse mode, in which cae nothing is mounted.
> 
> Sir Robin

at the lilo screen, before you time out, hit esc (tab might work) and
type "linux 1" (without the quotes) and from there you can unmount /home
if you still need to


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[newbie] SBr Temp

[Chris]

I asked Dennis what this was off-list and hes not sure, so I'll throw this out 
to the rest.  Below is my "sensors" output, what is SBr temp?

via686a-isa-6000
Adapter: ISA adapter
Algorithm: ISA algorithm
CPU core:  +1.71 V  (min =  +1.79 V, max =  +2.18 V)   ALARM
+2.5V: +2.42 V  (min =  +2.24 V, max =  +2.74 V)
I/O:   +3.33 V  (min =  +2.95 V, max =  +3.62 V)
+5V:   +4.89 V  (min =  +4.47 V, max =  +5.49 V)
+12V: +11.80 V  (min = +10.79 V, max = +13.18 V)
CPU Fan:  4787 RPM  (min = 3000 RPM, div = 2)
P/S Fan: 0 RPM  (min = 3000 RPM, div = 2)
SYS Temp:  +44.1°C  (limit =  +60°C, hysteresis =  +50°C)
CPU Temp:  +38.6°C  (limit =  +60°C, hysteresis =  +50°C)
SBr Temp:  +25.9°C  (limit =  +60°C, hysteresis =  +50°C)

Thanks
Chris

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[newbie] Xfce4 and icons

[Josenildo Marques]

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Please, where can I find more icons so that i can have them on the panel ? (I 
know there's plenty of them, but I don't know exactly where.)
I've also downloaded and installed the menumaker, but I don't know what to do 
now.

TIA

JM
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Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures

[Carroll Grigsby]

On Thursday 24 July 2003 08:45 pm, Cody Harris wrote:

> My boot is a gui, it says "Compaq" in red letters. Nothing more, nothing
> less. My new computer which DOES have temp doesn't show anything either.
>
> PS: I have a compaq 4500 P1. Don't all boards have temp?

No. IIRC, temperature monitoring dates back to the late 90's. The earliest 
implementations just flashed a message window on the screen; they were not 
accessible via external programs. Check your M/B manual; if you don't have 
one, do some research on the Compaq site.
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Re: [newbie] MS is at it again... Now Really OT!!!

[Carroll Grigsby]

On Thursday 24 July 2003 01:22 pm, Todd Slater wrote:

> Why is it that the only time anybody gets their panties in a bunch is
> when the talk turns political and controversial?

Probably for the same reason that I get a lot of flames when I post questions 
about urpmi on political lists.

> (A much more valid argument, I think, is consideration for those who pay
> out the a$$ for their Internet connection.)

Bingo! It has got to be really painful when they're on a 26.4 connection.

> Todd

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Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures

[Cody Harris]

- Original Message - 
From: "Dennis Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 9:33 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures


> On Thursday 24 July 2003 06:12 pm, Cody Harris wrote:
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Dennis Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 7:41 PM
> > Subject: Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures
> >
> > > On Thursday 24 July 2003 08:02 am, Cody Harris wrote:
> > > > - Original Message -
> > > > From: "Dennis Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 12:07 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures
> > > >
> > > > > Ok, do a console  and type su and the root password and then type
the
> > > >
> > > > urpmi
> > > >
> > > > > lm_sensors and let it install, cause I don't think it is on your
> > > > > comp. HTH
> > > >
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] cody]# urpmi lm_sensors
> > > > no package named lm_sensors
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] cody]#
> > >
> > > Cody, try MCC and see what it shows for lm_sensors in the install
> > > software side. If nothing shows what do you have set up for your
software
> > > sources. You need CD3 as a source for the urpmi prog to find
lm_sensors.
> > > Let us
> >
> > know
> >
> > > what you see. lm_sensors is definitely available from CD3. HTH
> >
> > I have 8.1 for the record. I'll take a look.
> >
> > > --
> > > Dennis M. linux user #180842
> >
>
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> Aha! the problem is apparent, I don't think 8.1 had lm_sensors and it may
not
> work with 8.1 but in that case go to rpmfind.net and search on lm_sensors.
I
> would get one of the older versions cause I doubt a newer one will work
with
> 8.1.  The other consideration is if your Motherboard has sensors on it. Do
> you get temp and fan readings when you boot?  If you see them then the
MOBO
> should work. Which board do you have? luck,

My boot is a gui, it says "Compaq" in red letters. Nothing more, nothing
less. My new computer which DOES have temp doesn't show anything either.

PS: I have a compaq 4500 P1. Don't all boards have temp?

PSS: I don't have a moniter on that computer. I use SSH.


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Re: [newbie] i'm looking for a very good WYSIWYG editor other than Mozilla composer

[Orlando Gonzalez]

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> I need to get a web presence up and running soon and
> have a OSWD template
> I plan to be using but since i do not know or have
> the time to learn html
> I require a good WYSIWYG html editor to create my
> web pages.  Mozilla
> Composer has worked semi-decently though I notice It
> does not look very
> good on a windows based machine.  I'd like my page
> to look good on both
> platforms.  This is why i'm seeking a new editor.

I read that Amaya (http://www.w3.org/Amaya/) does a
nice job; but I have never used it, and I don't know
about the compatibility with M$.


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Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures

[Dennis Myers]

On Thursday 24 July 2003 06:12 pm, Cody Harris wrote:
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dennis Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 7:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures
>
> > On Thursday 24 July 2003 08:02 am, Cody Harris wrote:
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Dennis Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 12:07 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures
> > >
> > > > Ok, do a console  and type su and the root password and then type the
> > >
> > > urpmi
> > >
> > > > lm_sensors and let it install, cause I don't think it is on your
> > > > comp. HTH
> > >
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] cody]# urpmi lm_sensors
> > > no package named lm_sensors
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] cody]#
> >
> > Cody, try MCC and see what it shows for lm_sensors in the install
> > software side. If nothing shows what do you have set up for your software
> > sources. You need CD3 as a source for the urpmi prog to find lm_sensors.
> > Let us
>
> know
>
> > what you see. lm_sensors is definitely available from CD3. HTH
>
> I have 8.1 for the record. I'll take a look.
>
> > --
> > Dennis M. linux user #180842
>
> ---
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Aha! the problem is apparent, I don't think 8.1 had lm_sensors and it may not 
work with 8.1 but in that case go to rpmfind.net and search on lm_sensors.  I 
would get one of the older versions cause I doubt a newer one will work with 
8.1.  The other consideration is if your Motherboard has sensors on it. Do 
you get temp and fan readings when you boot?  If you see them then the MOBO 
should work. Which board do you have? luck,
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Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures

[Cody Harris]

- Original Message - 
From: "Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures


On Thursday 24 July 2003 06:18 pm, Dennis Myers wrote:
>
> Hmmm, I missed something here.  But then the email is a bit flakey for me
> lately. Some threads are not threading.  For one upsmanship Stephen, I am
> having a mid-year crises as well as a thermal breakdown. :  p

>Geeez, I'm getting replies before original questions and >replies to
replies
>and not the original replies, what a mess.

Yes, i'm getting messages back that i sent before messages i just sent that
i just got.


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Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures

[Chris]

On Thursday 24 July 2003 06:18 pm, Dennis Myers wrote:
>
> Hmmm, I missed something here.  But then the email is a bit flakey for me
> lately. Some threads are not threading.  For one upsmanship Stephen, I am
> having a mid-year crises as well as a thermal breakdown. :  p

Geeez, I'm getting replies before original questions and replies to replies 
and not the original replies, what a mess.

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Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures

[Cody Harris]

- Original Message - 
From: "H.J.Bathoorn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 8:54 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures


> On Friday 25 July 2003 01:13, Cody Harris wrote:
> > Is that about cron? I've tried here with the cron issue before but
nobody
> > responded.
>
> Nah, it's a while back when you were messing with a coyote boot disk and a
> laptop.remember?
> Maybe you didn't mean to be shitheaded in respect to Femme but I didn't
read
> you putting it right either.

Speaking of which...what ever happened to that person?

>
>
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>
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Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures

[H.J.Bathoorn]

On Friday 25 July 2003 01:31, Aron Smith wrote:
> > Incredible for someone who has dial-up.keep on trucking:o)
>
> More than that he has replied backchannel to a lot of us..I second the
> motion ;

Before he gets too big for his boots:

Kuhn, Kuhn?...uhh wasn't that the guy who thought he was on a RedHat list here 
before they came out with 8.0?

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Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures

[H.J.Bathoorn]

On Friday 25 July 2003 01:13, Cody Harris wrote:
> Is that about cron? I've tried here with the cron issue before but nobody
> responded.

Nah, it's a while back when you were messing with a coyote boot disk and a 
laptop.remember?
Maybe you didn't mean to be shitheaded in respect to Femme but I didn't read 
you putting it right either.


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Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures

[H.J.Bathoorn]

On Friday 25 July 2003 01:07, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
>
> Tanx mate. Living on karma.

Ummmh, if you could get your local telephone company as a client you could be 
probably be living on your own money instead of karma;o)
Just a thoughtand only because I'm thinking of transporting ships in my 
ship.
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Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures

[Aron Smith]

On Thursday 24 July 2003 06:58 pm, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
> On Friday 25 July 2003 00:11, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
> > Look, I'd be more than happy to answer real questions for Cody if Cody
> > wanted to make use of the information properly, run his system properly,
> > answer threaded emails properly, have some decency and respect for those
> > of us that are willing to lend a hand instead of constantly "biting the
> > hand that feeds"...
> >
> > My rant is over with.
>
> I second the rant...Cody does seem to take the easy way out or has to
> review his attitude.
>
> BTW: Stephen on trying to find this mail back so I could reply to it...I
> saw (whilst doing a search on "kuhn") that you've sent 1642 messages to
> this list since 9.1 is out (i.e. 9.0 wasn't a topic anymore).
>
> Incredible for someone who has dial-up.keep on trucking:o)

More than that he has replied backchannel to a lot of us..I second the motion 
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Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures

[Cody Harris]

- Original Message - 
From: "Stephen Kuhn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mandrake Newbie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 8:07 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures


> On Fri, 2003-07-25 at 08:58, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
> > On Friday 25 July 2003 00:11, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
> > > Look, I'd be more than happy to answer real questions for Cody if Cody
> > > wanted to make use of the information properly, run his system
properly,
> > > answer threaded emails properly, have some decency and respect for
those
> > > of us that are willing to lend a hand instead of constantly "biting
the
> > > hand that feeds"...
> > >
> > > My rant is over with.
> >
> > I second the rant...Cody does seem to take the easy way out or has to
review
> > his attitude.

Is that about cron? I've tried here with the cron issue before but nobody
responded.

> >
> > BTW: Stephen on trying to find this mail back so I could reply to it...I
saw
> > (whilst doing a search on "kuhn") that you've sent 1642 messages to this
list
> > since 9.1 is out (i.e. 9.0 wasn't a topic anymore).
> >
> > Incredible for someone who has dial-up.keep on trucking:o)
>
> Tanx mate. Living on karma.
>
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>   Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586
> -
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>
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> despair not!  For though dark they stand,
> all woods there be must end at last,
> and see the open sun go past:
> the setting sun, the rising sun,
> the day's end, or the day begun.
> For east or west all woods must fail ...
> -- J. R. R. Tolkien
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Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures

[H.J.Bathoorn]

On Friday 25 July 2003 00:11, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
> Look, I'd be more than happy to answer real questions for Cody if Cody
> wanted to make use of the information properly, run his system properly,
> answer threaded emails properly, have some decency and respect for those
> of us that are willing to lend a hand instead of constantly "biting the
> hand that feeds"...
>
> My rant is over with.

I second the rant...Cody does seem to take the easy way out or has to review 
his attitude. 

BTW: Stephen on trying to find this mail back so I could reply to it...I saw 
(whilst doing a search on "kuhn") that you've sent 1642 messages to this list 
since 9.1 is out (i.e. 9.0 wasn't a topic anymore).

Incredible for someone who has dial-up.keep on trucking:o)

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Re: [newbie] DiskDrake: Unmounting /dev/dha6 aka /home.

[Robin Turner]

Sharrea wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 19:32, James Henry Maiewski wrote:

Hello,

	I've been trying to create an new partition on my only hard drive. 
According to the directions, I need to unmount the partition, but
clicking "unmount" in DiskDrake has no effect.  'umount /dev/hsa6' tells
me that the device is busy. How do I procede?


Not sure whether this will work or not.  But you could try logging in as 
root so the /home dir is not being used at all and then running diskdrake.
I think /home gets mounted automatically.  Either edit it out of 
/etc/fstab, or boot uo in recuse mode, in which cae nothing is mounted.

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[newbie] Strange Behaviour by File Manager (Super User)

[Graham Watkins]

Opened Konqueror as super user last night with the intention of moving 
some files from my user directory to my windows drive to which the user 
does not have write permission (all prior to transferring them to UDF 
formatted cd but you don't need to know that).  However, when I tried to 
access my user directory, the window displayed a web page - the UK 
Mirror Service Homepage even though most of the links displayed on it 
didn't work.  This never used to happen.

Anyone know what's going on?

I'm using mdk 9.0

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Re: [newbie] Amaya

[H.J.Bathoorn]

On Thursday 24 July 2003 22:35, Marco Verheul wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm interested in giving Amaya a try in my queste for the nicest HTML
> editor. Does anybody know if there's a package available for mdk 9.1 or
> if there's any other source that will work well?
>
> Marco

It's on your cd set (supplemetary applications cd).
Just do "urpmi amaya"
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Re: [newbie] XFce4 newbie problems

[Brooks3J]

Ok, I'm pretty sure I've got everything downloaded and installed, and I have the 
executable file 19xfce4 where I'm supposed to.  However, I still do not have XFce4 in 
my kdm startup menu.  Here's the kdmrc file's contents.  Is there something wrong with 
it?

[Desktop0]
BackgroundMode=Flat
BlendBalance=100
BlendMode=NoBlending
ChangeInterval=60
Color1=33,68,156
Color2=192,192,192
CurrentWallpaper=0
LastChange=0
MinOptimizationDepth=1
MultiWallpaperMode=NoMulti
Pattern=
Program=
ReverseBlending=false
UseSHM=false
Wallpaper=/usr/share/mdk/backgrounds/default.png
WallpaperList=
WallpaperMode=Scaled

[General]
PidFile=/var/run/xdm.pid
Xservers=/etc/X11/xdm/Xservers

[Shutdown]
HaltCmd=/sbin/halt
LiloCmd=/sbin/lilo
LiloMap=/boot/map
RebootCmd=/sbin/reboot
UseLilo=true

[X-*-Core]
AllowNullPasswd=false
AllowRootLogin=false
AllowShutdown=Root
AutoReLogin=false
Reset=
Resources=/etc/X11/xdm/Xresources
Session=/etc/X11/xdm/Xsession
Setup=
Startup=
SystemPath=/usr//bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin::/usr/local/bin
UserPath=/usr//bin:/bin:/usr/bin::/usr/local/bin

[X-*-Greeter]
AntiAliasing=true
AuthComplain=false
EchoMode=OneStar
FailFont=Sans,12,-1,5,75,0,0,0,0,0
FocusPasswd=false
GUIStyle=Galaxy
ColorScheme=Galaxy
GreetFont=Sans,24,-1,5,50,0,0,0,0,0
GreetString=Welcome to %n
GreeterPosFixed=false
GreeterPosX=0
GreeterPosY=0
HiddenUsers=adm,bin,daemon,games,halt,lp,mail,news,nobody,operator,root,rpc,rpcuser,rpm,shutdown,sshd,sync,uucp,xfs,
Language=en_US
LogoArea=None
LogoPixmap=
MaxShowUID=65535
MinShowUID=500
PreselectUser=None
SelectedUsers=
SessionTypes=KDE,GNOME,XFce4,Enlightenment,IceWM,Sawfish,Waimea,failsafe,default
SortUsers=true
StdFont=Sans,12,-1,5,50,0,0,0,0,0
ShowUsers=All

[X-:*-Core]
AllowNullPasswd=true
AllowRootLogin=true
AllowShutdown=All
NoPassEnable=false
NoPassUsers=

[X-:0-Core]
Authorize=true
AutoLogin1st=true
AutoLoginEnable=false
Reset=/etc/X11/xdm/TakeConsole
Setup=/etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0
Startup=/etc/X11/xdm/GiveConsole

[X-:1-Core]
Authorize=true

[Xdmcp]
Enable=false
KeyFile=/etc/X11/xdm/xdm-keys
Willing=
Xaccess=/etc/X11/xdm/Xaccess



Also, perhaps I've got my 19xfce4 file wrong.  Here are its contents:

 NAME=XFce4
ICON=xfce4.png
EXEC=/usr/bin/startxfce4
DESC=The bleeding edge
SCRIPT:
exec /usr/bin/startxfce4

--

Ever since I've download this stuff, however, other problems have been occuring.  For 
example, everytime I try to use mplayer to play a wmv file or xine to play a quicktime 
file (I have the plugins installed for both of these programs), xine and mplayer both 
just lock up.  RealPlayer 8 does the same when I try to view some RealPlayer files 
from the web.  Any ideas?

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Re: [newbie] DiskDrake: Unmounting /dev/dha6 aka /home.

[Derek Jennings]

On Thursday 24 Jul 2003 8:32 am, James Henry Maiewski wrote:
> Hello,
>
>   I've been trying to create an new partition on my only hard drive. 
> According to the directions, I need to unmount the partition, but clicking
> "unmount" in DiskDrake has no effect.  'umount /dev/hsa6' tells me that the
> device is busy. How do I procede?
>
>   Jim

Before you can unmount a partition you have to stop using it.
If this partition is /home then it is being used by your login.

To get around the problem log in as root user  (/root is on a different 
partition)

(and before you say the graphical login does not allow you to log in as root 
user MandrakeControlCentre>Hardware>LoginManager select kdm. On next boot the 
login will allow root login)

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Re: [newbie] Amaya

[Paul]

On Thu, 2003-07-24 at 22:35, Marco Verheul wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm interested in giving Amaya a try in my queste for the nicest HTML
> editor. Does anybody know if there's a package available for mdk 9.1 or
> if there's any other source that will work well?

I got it once. I downloaded the tar.gz, unpacked that and the binary is
in there. It works right out of the tar.gz.

Paul
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Re: [newbie] MORE Audacity problems

[Paul]

On Thu, 2003-07-24 at 05:36, David E Fox wrote:
> > First, no sound. I have SiS7012 working OK using module i810 - sound out
> > in (e.g.) xmms and play but in audacity get 'error opening audio device
> 
> This might be arts related. Occasionally an arts program will want
> to use the sound card and not be able to - usually when that happens I 
> just use xmms. I'm not quite sure how to address this issue in audacity;
> I've only used it a little bit.
> 
> > Second problem, when I load a large MP3 file (over 100Mb) takes over 4
> > mins to load and program cuts out before fully loaded - no warnings just
> 
> Do you have plenty of disk space? If not, try defining a directory that
> Audacity can use (/tmp for example). Audacity files can be huge, and 
> it has to store the uncompressed version of that mp3 and any changes - 
> audacity seems to save in a large number of 1 megabyte chunks.
> 
> The biggest file I've edited (mp3) in audacity was about 43 megs.
> 
> > 
> > Paul M.
>  
> 


Thanks, David, and to everyone who responded. 

Changed Audacity's working directory from /tmp to /home/tmp - sound now
works (no, I can't figure it).

BUT, loading a large MP3 file (104Mb) starts off showing loading time
about 4 mins, goes down to 2mins 20 and then reboots computer. I can't
work out how, or why, this happens.

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Re: [newbie] urpmi.addmedia mozilla

[Derek Jennings]

On Thursday 24 Jul 2003 11:27 am, John Richard Smith wrote:
> H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
> >On Thursday 24 July 2003 11:58, John Richard Smith wrote:
> >>Why does this fail ?
> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# urpmi.addmedia mozilla
> >>ftp://ftp.mirror.ac.uk/sites/sunsite.uio.no/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake/Mandr
> >>ak e/9.1/contrib/RPMS with hdlist.cz
> >>added medium mozilla
> >>examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.texstar.cz]
> >>examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.plf.cz]
> >>examining synthesis file
> >> [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.jpackage.free.cz] examining synthesis
> >> file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.main.cz] retrieving description
> >> file of "mozilla"...
> >>retrieving source hdlist (or synthesis) of "mozilla"...
> >>
> >>ftp://ftp.mirror.ac.uk/sites/sunsite.uio.no/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake/Mandr
> >>ak e/9.1/contrib/RPMS/hdlist.cz ...retrieving failed: curl failed: exited
> >> with 19 or signal 0
> >>
> >>retrieve of source hdlist (or synthesis) failed
> >>no hdlist file found for medium "mozilla"
> >>examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.mozilla.cz]
> >>problem reading synthesis file of medium "mozilla"
> >>unable to update medium "mozilla"
> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]#
> >>
> >>
> >>when headlist for source main was only updated last night.
> >>
> >>John
> >
> >It's synthesis.hdlist2.cz on that page.
>
> OK, but, now what is wrong ?
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# urpmi.addmedia mozilla
> ftp://ftp.mirror.ac.uk/sites/sunsite.uio.no/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake/Mandrak
>e/9.1/contrib/RPMS with hdlist2.cz
> added medium mozilla
> examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.texstar.cz]
> examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.plf.cz]
> examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.jpackage.free.cz]
> examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.main.cz]
> retrieving description file of "mozilla"...
> retrieving source hdlist (or synthesis) of "mozilla"...
>
> ftp://ftp.mirror.ac.uk/sites/sunsite.uio.no/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake/Mandrak
>e/9.1/contrib/RPMS/hdlist2.cz ...retrieving failed: curl failed: exited with
> 19 or signal 0
>
> retrieve of source hdlist (or synthesis) failed
> no hdlist file found for medium "mozilla"
> examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.mozilla.cz]
> problem reading synthesis file of medium "mozilla"
> unable to update medium "mozilla"

You have made exactly the same mistake again.
Instead of synthesis.hdlist2.cz you have typed hdlist2.cz

You only have to enter that ftp address in the url line of a browser and you 
can see what the file is called.

I am  curious. Why are you entering a 9.1 contrib source and calling it 
'mozilla'. (Mozilla is not even in that source) I know from previous posts 
you have already defined contrib sources before?


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[newbie] DiskDrake: Unmounting /dev/dha6 aka /home.

[James Henry Maiewski]

Hello,

I've been trying to create an new partition on my only hard drive.  According 
to the directions, I need to unmount the partition, but clicking "unmount" in 
DiskDrake has no effect.  'umount /dev/hsa6' tells me that the device is busy.  
How do I procede?

Jim

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Re: [newbie] MS is at it again... Now Really OT!!!

[Cornerstone Community Farm]

Thanks for the common sense Todd,
There are probably few lists that do not delve into the OT arena.
(With exceptions for the rare dead, boring, dull lists)

On Thursday 24 July 2003 12:22 pm, Todd Slater wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 08:03:24 -0500
>
> Curt Tresenriter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 24 Jul 2003 06:27:47 -0400
> >
> > ed tharp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > This list (and life in general) are not for you if you can not
> > > > make brief excusions into philosophy (real life).
> > > > Keith (living a joy filled life)  :)
> > >
> > > Sorry Keith, but it is not for you, nor me to decide what goes, or
> > > does not go on this list.
> > > The owners of the servers supporting this list, I am pretty damn
> > > sure, have the say.
> > >
> > > It is my understanding that they set up this list to be a place
> > > where people just getting into the linux-mandrake "experience" can
> > > gather and discuss those thing pertaining to Linux-Mandrake. and
> > > while there is great scope covered under that umbrella, most of the
> > > thread, beginning with Anne's remarks (imho) do not belong on the
> > > newbie list. They would be just great on the OT list tho.
> >
> > Not to mention the fact that this server space costs the company
> > hosting it money. Considering Mandrake's precarious financial
> > condition, I believe it's unconcsionable to waste it. You may consider
> > this post as a waste but in reality,  it *is* Mandrake related and my
> > point is a fact everyone should consider before posting here.
>
> Why is it that the only time anybody gets their panties in a bunch is
> when the talk turns political and controversial? There's a lot of
> chatter on this list, much of which has nothing to do with Mandrake in
> particular or even Linux. I've been skipping over messages about Aussies
> and vegetables and what not (no offense!) today. It seems that if we're
> going to say "no OT" then why not these tirades about the chit-chat? Is
> somebody volunteering to be the moderator?
>
> No, I think it's fine the way it is. I--and I'm sure most of
> you--are fully capable of scanning an email and hitting the delete
> button if it's something I don't care to read.
>
> (A much more valid argument, I think, is consideration for those who pay
> out the a$$ for their Internet connection.)
>
> Flame and filter away ;)
>
> Todd


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Re: [newbie] Linux analog to iTunes & BuyMusic.

[Aron Smith]

On Thursday 24 July 2003 01:57 pm, Sabin, Matthew wrote:
> I'm a linux user because I love the culture.
> I also love a freebie.
>
> I frequently buy music at mp3.com and would like to have access to a
> greater selection.  Perhaps iTunes would work with the Linux crowd to
> improve their numbers over BuyMusic.
>
> Is there a route to the OSS community producing our own "must have ears"
> music store?
>
> --Matthew
You might want to look into the Cajuin project
>
> -Original Message-
> From: James Henry Maiewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 12:56 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [newbie] Linux analog to iTunes & BuyMusic.
>
>
> Hello,
>
>   Perhaps a bit off topic, but I've gone to Apple's iTunes ("must have
> a Mac")
> and BuyMusic ("must have IE" read: M$).  I do not support Linux in general
> and Mandrake in particular because it is cheaper (which it is), but because
> I
> like the product and wish to support open source.  Could it be that Linux
> users, as a rule, are too interested in getting free stuff that an mp3
> store
>
> like those mentioned above (I especially like the idea that one can buy a
> single song), even allowing Linux users to shop is unnecessary?
>
>  Jim.


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[newbie] Amaya

[Marco Verheul]

Hi all,

I'm interested in giving Amaya a try in my queste for the nicest HTML
editor. Does anybody know if there's a package available for mdk 9.1 or
if there's any other source that will work well?

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Re: [newbie] what do i add to /etc/fstab to automount samba shareson boot ? user/pass/domain required

[ed tharp]

On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 09:40, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 19:50, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > what do i add to /etc/fstab to automount samba shares on boot ? 
> > user/pass/domain required
> 
> Instead of doing it in the /etc/fstab - why not create a script that you
> can call from the /etc/rc.d/rc.local - so that if the network is hosed
> up, it ain't going to muck up your system or drag down performance...?
> 
> (Really easy to export a mountscript from LinNeighborhood - ya don't
> need to know anything at all - it does it for ya) Just FYI


man I wanted to see how long before he complained that if the windows
box was hosed, he could not reboot into linux, that it hung right after
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[newbie] Linux analog to iTunes & BuyMusic.

[James Henry Maiewski]

Hello,

Perhaps a bit off topic, but I've gone to Apple's iTunes ("must have a Mac") 
and BuyMusic ("must have IE" read: M$).  I do not support Linux in general 
and Mandrake in particular because it is cheaper (which it is), but because I 
like the product and wish to support open source.  Could it be that Linux 
users, as a rule, are too interested in getting free stuff that an mp3 store 
like those mentioned above (I especially like the idea that one can buy a 
single song), even allowing Linux users to shop is unnecessary?

 Jim.

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[newbie] Kmix, ALSA and saving levels.

[James Henry Maiewski]

Hello,

I'm fairly certain that this has been covered by this lidt, but I can't seem 
to find it in the archives.  My card is a SoundBlaster Audigy, and I'm 
running Mandrake 9.1 with KDE 3.1.0.  I'm also sorry that this sounds so 
confusing.

First, I get XMMS playing.

Then I start Kmix(1.90), aumix and alsamixergui.

Now, adjusting either aumix or alsamixer will both change the volume, and 
change the displays on each others GUIs, but not Kmix'.  When I change Kmix' 
volume, the other two immediately move to where Kmix' level is, and the 
volume changes to what Kmix displays (However, when I place the mouse pointer 
on the Kmix applet it will say "Volume at x%" where x is what ever the last 
value of Kmix was until I move the mouse wheel and change the volume that way 
(I love this feature by the way, very cool).

This is all strange, but as I include it only as it might give a clue as to 
what is happening.  Since I only need to use one mixer (and I love the Kmix 
applet), the problem occurs when I reboot.  Say I logged out with the volume 
at 10% [by the way the 'x%,' which I get from the applet ranges from 0% to 
31%, but seems corresponds to 0% to 100% on aumix].  When I reboot, the 
actual volume out of the speakers is 10% (and the applet says "Volume at 
10%"), but the slider on the display is maxed out.  if I attempt to lower the 
volume a little bit, the actual volume switches to a little bit below maxed 
out (even though this is 31%, it's pretty damned loud!).

So, there it is.   It actually is as strange as it sounds.  Any suggestions 
as to what to do, or whom to ask?

With an advance of thanks,
Jim.

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RE: [newbie] urpmi as a user and not root

[ed tharp]

On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 11:05, Tony S. Sykes wrote:
> Dan,
> 
> It is my works network which has the server. They don't want to create a
> root account as this is a possible security risk due to it being one of
> the most hacked accounts (as well as admin). So I can authenticate as my
> user through my Linux box, so I tried the old trick of changing my users
> gid and uid, but it still sends the root user and pass. Changed that
> back now though. All I need is a way to get root to send the auth to the
> proxy server as me somehow.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Tony.
> 
it is possible to add yourself or anyone else to a group like "wheel"
and give that group permissions to install anything that root has, heck
you can change the name of root, if you want to,,, it is linux after all




> -Original Message-
> From: Dan Gordon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 3:27 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [newbie] urpmi as a user and not root
> 
> 
> On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 15:07:25 +0100
> "Tony S. Sykes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > All,
> > 
> > Is it possible to do urpmi as a user and not root. Reason being is I
> > am behind a ms proxy which authenticates user id's. They will not
> > create a root one for me so it will have to be my own user for the
> > updates. How do I do this? Can I do this?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Tony.
> >   
> 
> I'm not sure if it is possible, when installing software in Linux it
> needs to put files into directory's that a normal user does not have
> write access in. This is why when compiling from source you need to
> become root to do the make install step of the installation.
> I don't know much about proxy's except i don't like them personally but
> i would think its not to hard for them to do something for you.
> You only need root access to the computer you wish to do urpmi on so if
> you can access the net as root you sould be able to use urpmi. Is it
> your isp that has this proxy or is it on your network or are u on a
> computer where you dont have root access ?
> 
> Regards,
> Dan Gordon
> 
> 


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Re: [newbie] MS is at it again... Now Really OT!!!

[Cornerstone Community Farm]

Thanks for the common sense Todd,
There are probably few lists that do not delve into the OT arena.
(With exceptions for the rare dead, boring, dull lists)

On Thursday 24 July 2003 12:22 pm, Todd Slater wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 08:03:24 -0500
>
> Curt Tresenriter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 24 Jul 2003 06:27:47 -0400
> >
> > ed tharp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > This list (and life in general) are not for you if you can not
> > > > make brief excusions into philosophy (real life).
> > > > Keith (living a joy filled life)  :)
> > >
> > > Sorry Keith, but it is not for you, nor me to decide what goes, or
> > > does not go on this list.
> > > The owners of the servers supporting this list, I am pretty damn
> > > sure, have the say.
> > >
> > > It is my understanding that they set up this list to be a place
> > > where people just getting into the linux-mandrake "experience" can
> > > gather and discuss those thing pertaining to Linux-Mandrake. and
> > > while there is great scope covered under that umbrella, most of the
> > > thread, beginning with Anne's remarks (imho) do not belong on the
> > > newbie list. They would be just great on the OT list tho.
> >
> > Not to mention the fact that this server space costs the company
> > hosting it money. Considering Mandrake's precarious financial
> > condition, I believe it's unconcsionable to waste it. You may consider
> > this post as a waste but in reality,  it *is* Mandrake related and my
> > point is a fact everyone should consider before posting here.
>
> Why is it that the only time anybody gets their panties in a bunch is
> when the talk turns political and controversial? There's a lot of
> chatter on this list, much of which has nothing to do with Mandrake in
> particular or even Linux. I've been skipping over messages about Aussies
> and vegetables and what not (no offense!) today. It seems that if we're
> going to say "no OT" then why not these tirades about the chit-chat? Is
> somebody volunteering to be the moderator?
>
> No, I think it's fine the way it is. I--and I'm sure most of
> you--are fully capable of scanning an email and hitting the delete
> button if it's something I don't care to read.
>
> (A much more valid argument, I think, is consideration for those who pay
> out the a$$ for their Internet connection.)
>
> Flame and filter away ;)
>
> Todd


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RE: [newbie] Linux analog to iTunes & BuyMusic.

[Sabin, Matthew]

Title: RE: [newbie] Linux analog to iTunes & BuyMusic.





I'm a linux user because I love the culture.
I also love a freebie.


I frequently buy music at mp3.com and would like to have access to a greater selection.  Perhaps iTunes would work with the Linux crowd to improve their numbers over BuyMusic.

Is there a route to the OSS community producing our own "must have ears" music store?


--Matthew


-Original Message-
From: James Henry Maiewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 12:56 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] Linux analog to iTunes & BuyMusic.



Hello,


    Perhaps a bit off topic, but I've gone to Apple's iTunes ("must have a Mac") 
and BuyMusic ("must have IE" read: M$).  I do not support Linux in general 
and Mandrake in particular because it is cheaper (which it is), but because I 
like the product and wish to support open source.  Could it be that Linux 
users, as a rule, are too interested in getting free stuff that an mp3 store 
like those mentioned above (I especially like the idea that one can buy a 
single song), even allowing Linux users to shop is unnecessary?


 Jim.

Re: [newbie] Help me out [OT]

[Wade Waldron]

If we are not supposed to eat animals, then why are they made out of meat???

I eat Vegetarians for breakfast!!!

Wade
- Original Message - 
From: "Harv Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 10:36 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Help me out [OT]


>
>
> Michael Scottaline wrote:
>
> >On 24 Jul 2003 10:24:26 +1000
> >Stephen Kuhn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> insightfully noted:
> >
> >
> >
> >>On Thu, 2003-07-24 at 04:16, Gene Barker wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Hi Harv,
> >>>
> >>>I'm not a vegetarian but I do eat most of them except the "A" veggies.
> >>>Thanks for the welcome
> >>>
> >>>Gene Barker
> >>>
> >>>
> >>I hate eating vegetables. They just lay there.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >===
> >I think you Aussies have an old saying:  "Vegetables?  Oh..., that's what
food
> >eats!"
> >Mike
> >
> >
> Vegetarian (n) - An old American Indian (Ojibwa) word, usually
> translated as "poor hunter".
>
> Harv
>
>
>
> >
> >
> >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft?
> >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
> >
> >
>
>
>






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>

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Re: [newbie] MS is at it again... Now Really OT!!!

[Todd Slater]

On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 08:03:24 -0500
Curt Tresenriter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 24 Jul 2003 06:27:47 -0400
> ed tharp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > > This list (and life in general) are not for you if you can not
> > > make brief excusions into philosophy (real life).
> > > Keith (living a joy filled life)  :)
> > Sorry Keith, but it is not for you, nor me to decide what goes, or
> > does not go on this list.
> > The owners of the servers supporting this list, I am pretty damn
> > sure, have the say.
> > 
> > It is my understanding that they set up this list to be a place
> > where people just getting into the linux-mandrake "experience" can
> > gather and discuss those thing pertaining to Linux-Mandrake. and
> > while there is great scope covered under that umbrella, most of the
> > thread, beginning with Anne's remarks (imho) do not belong on the
> > newbie list. They would be just great on the OT list tho.
> 
> Not to mention the fact that this server space costs the company
> hosting it money. Considering Mandrake's precarious financial
> condition, I believe it's unconcsionable to waste it. You may consider
> this post as a waste but in reality,  it *is* Mandrake related and my
> point is a fact everyone should consider before posting here.

Why is it that the only time anybody gets their panties in a bunch is
when the talk turns political and controversial? There's a lot of
chatter on this list, much of which has nothing to do with Mandrake in
particular or even Linux. I've been skipping over messages about Aussies
and vegetables and what not (no offense!) today. It seems that if we're
going to say "no OT" then why not these tirades about the chit-chat? Is
somebody volunteering to be the moderator?

No, I think it's fine the way it is. I--and I'm sure most of
you--are fully capable of scanning an email and hitting the delete
button if it's something I don't care to read.

(A much more valid argument, I think, is consideration for those who pay
out the a$$ for their Internet connection.)

Flame and filter away ;)

Todd

-- 
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be too concerned; and I would have a cup of coffee, and I'd find my 
surroundings quite amusing and people would ask me which were my
favorite paintings.

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[newbie] Abit IT-7

[Gilligan]

Does anyone know if Abit's IT-7 motherboard is supported with LM 9.2b1? 
I've checked the hardware list and it only lists LM 9.1 version .

TIA





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Re: [newbie] Help me out [OT]

[Harv Nelson]

Michael Scottaline wrote:

On 24 Jul 2003 10:24:26 +1000
Stephen Kuhn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> insightfully noted:
 

On Thu, 2003-07-24 at 04:16, Gene Barker wrote:
   

Hi Harv,

I'm not a vegetarian but I do eat most of them except the "A" veggies.
Thanks for the welcome
Gene Barker
 

I hate eating vegetables. They just lay there.

   

===
I think you Aussies have an old saying:  "Vegetables?  Oh..., that's what food
eats!"
Mike
 

Vegetarian (n) - An old American Indian (Ojibwa) word, usually 
translated as "poor hunter".

Harv





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FW: [newbie] Remotely answer incoming fax?

[Tony S. Sykes]

Can we do this? From Mandrake newbie's list.

-Original Message-
From: Warren Post [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 12:11 AM
To: Newbie list
Subject: [newbie] Remotely answer incoming fax?


I am looking for fax software that will let me remotely receive an
incoming fax. By which I mean:

In my restaurant I have one phone line, which is used for both voice and
fax. The phone is answered in the kitchen, and the fax machine was in
the office. When an incoming fax came in, the person answering the phone
only had to enter a remote answer code (*51) on the phone's keypad to
signal the fax machine to receive the incoming fax.

Now my fax machine has died and I'd like to do the same thing with my
computer's fax modem. So far I can't find any reference to any such
feature in Efax or HylaFAX (I'm assuming such a feature would have to be
implemented on the backend). Any leads, anyone? 
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Re: [newbie] Re: Robotics

[Eric Huff]

> > What section is Nuts & Volts in? I havn't seen it in any chapters
> > stores in the areas.
> >
> > And it isn't my thread, it everyones.
> >
> > > Jim.
> >
>As far as I know you will not find it in the stores. You have to


I am pretty sure i have seen it at Frys electronics, but that only helps
if you're in the western US...

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RE: [newbie] ATTN Franki: amavis + trophie question

[Frankie]

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi Franki,

On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 04:54:52AM +0800, Frankie wrote:
> well I can't specify with any certaintly what your problem
> is..
>
> but when i did it on mdk9.0,
> I have amavis-new, and trophie running as amavis.amavis
> It worked straight off the bat once I did that.
> Have you asked the trophie developer what the -4 error
is??
> Is it mentioned on his site?
> I still think its some sort of permissions thing.

I did ask about the -4 error on the tropie/sophie/virge
list, but I
haven't received any response. Nor have I received any
response on the
avamis list. The -4 error is not mentioned anywhere save
regarding an
install on Red Hat. Something about the compiler and links
unique to Red
Hat.

Here's another clue. After installing Trend, I was unable to
connect to
port 1812 as the manual instructs. I thought it was just a
configuration
gui, and since I think it's already configured OK I didn't
think about
it. I don't know if the port needs to be open to work with
Trophie or
not.

I'm going to go back and try setting up amavis to run as
amavis.amavis,
change permissions on the folders as described in the amavis
docs, and
recompile trophie to run as amavis.amavis. Argh!

Todd



I think thats the best way to go..

Last resport would be to look though the src of trophie and
see if you
can work out from that what is causing the -4.

As I understand it, trophie is sortof a daemon wrapper for
the trend engine.
I don't think the port 1812 is of any relevance.

Do the recompile, like I said, once I did, it worked
flawlessly.


regards


Franki


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Re: [newbie] i'm looking for a very good WYSIWYG editor other thanMozilla composer

[Robin Turner]

Todd Slater wrote:
On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 08:05:28AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I need to get a web presence up and running soon and have a OSWD template
I plan to be using but since i do not know or have the time to learn html
I require a good WYSIWYG html editor to create my web pages.  Mozilla
Composer has worked semi-decently though I notice It does not look very
good on a windows based machine.  I'd like my page to look good on both
platforms.  This is why i'm seeking a new editor.


How is that the fault of Mozilla? If you're not willing to take the time
to learn how to design a webpage (by learning about html and css etc.) I
don't know how switching tools is going to help you any.
You can produce web pages with Mozilla that will look the way you want 
in IE so long as you're careful about things like fonts and CSS. HTML is 
HTML, whatever you produce it with.

That said, you (arosene, not Todd) could try OpenOffice.

Sir Robin

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Re: [newbie] Remotely answer incoming fax?

[Warren Post]

El dom, 20-07-2003 a las 17:16, JoeHill escribió:
> On 20 Jul 2003 17:10:43 -0600
> Warren Post <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered:
> 
> > Now my fax machine has died and I'd like to do the same thing with my
> > computer's fax modem. So far I can't find any reference to any such
> > feature in Efax or HylaFAX (I'm assuming such a feature would have to
> > be implemented on the backend). Any leads, anyone? 
> 
> try Sourceforge or Freshmeat

Sorry, I should have specified that I'm going through all the
interesting frontends on Sourceforge and Freshmeat, looking both for
this and several other features that I want. So far no luck, but there
are many frontends that I have yet to look at.

What concerns me more, however, is that I suspect that that this
particular feature would need to be implemented in the backend before a
frontend could offer it, and I can find no reference to such a feature
in the Efax or HylaFAX documentation. Does anyone know if what I am
looking for is even currently available in software, or am I going to
have to buy a fax machine to get this feature?

BTW and OT, my apologies for being so slow in my replies. Shortly after
posting the original question I hurt my ankle and am now under doctor's
orders to stay in bed for a couple of weeks -- and my computer is at
work, not at home, so I'm no longer able to reply to email as often as
I'd like. But I do read and reply to your help, even if it takes me a
few days to do so.
-- 
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Re: [newbie] i'm looking for a very good WYSIWYG editor other than Mozilla composer

[Sridhar Dhanapalan]

On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 08:05:28AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I need to get a web presence up and running soon and have a OSWD template
> I plan to be using but since i do not know or have the time to learn html
> I require a good WYSIWYG html editor to create my web pages.  Mozilla
> Composer has worked semi-decently though I notice It does not look very
> good on a windows based machine.  I'd like my page to look good on both
> platforms.  This is why i'm seeking a new editor.

Mozilla is designed to produce standards-compliant code. Any standards-compliant
browser (Mozilla, Opera, Konqueror, etc.) should be able to render it properly,
no matter what platform they are on (A page should look the same in Mozilla for
GNU/Linux as it does in the Windows version). The _browser_ is what matters, not
the OS.

If it doesn't look good, that is the fault of the browser. IE is a big offender
here. IE is still not fully standards-compliant, and Frontpage is deliberately
designed to make shonky code that only works in IE.

With that said, take a look here:

  http://www.pclinuxonline.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=3481


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Re: [newbie] Learning Linux on a Pentium ?

[Tom Brinkman]

On Wednesday July 23 2003 09:09 pm, Erylon Hines wrote:
> From experience, the only distros that will work well on these
> machines are old (meaning less eye-candy) and out-of-date.  I
> have a P75 with 32 meg that does fine on the 486 (Yes, 486)
> version of Mandrake 7.01.  Those machines were tedious with any
> version (even 7.x) optimized for the Penium.  RedHat 386 (circa
> 6.x) ran fine on a P90 with 32 megs.  An old Caldera 2.4 was o.k.
> on a P75 with 16 megs, but nothin' to write home about.  Can't
> give you any url's to dl, but at least some should be available. 

ftp://mandrake.redbox.cz/Mandrake-iso/i586/mandrake70-2.i486.iso
(631 MB)
ftp://mandrake.redbox.cz/Mandrake-iso/i586/md5sums.mandrake70-2.i486

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Re: [newbie] Security

[Aron Smith]

On Thursday 24 July 2003 09:53 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
> On Thu, 2003-07-24 at 23:35, Aron Smith wrote:
> > On Thursday 24 July 2003 06:58 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2003-07-24 at 16:43, aron smith wrote:
> > > > I notice that now dmsg returns a unknown command
> > > > whats happining?
> > >
> > > Are you typing "dmsg" or "dmesg" ?
> >
> > thanks was typing dmsg ..oops
> > anymore good commands to monitor system?
>
> top
> free -m
> df -h
> sensors
> who
> tail /var/log/messages -n 40
thanks stephen


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Re: [newbie] Security

[Stephen Kuhn]

On Thu, 2003-07-24 at 23:35, Aron Smith wrote:
> On Thursday 24 July 2003 06:58 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
> > On Thu, 2003-07-24 at 16:43, aron smith wrote:
> > > I notice that now dmsg returns a unknown command
> > > whats happining?
> >
> > Are you typing "dmsg" or "dmesg" ?
> thanks was typing dmsg ..oops
> anymore good commands to monitor system?

top
free -m
df -h
sensors
who
tail /var/log/messages -n 40

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|  .\__/ || |   |  ||
|   _ /  `._ \|_|_.-'  |stephen kuhn|
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-
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Re: [newbie] Security

[Aron Smith]

On Thursday 24 July 2003 06:58 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
> On Thu, 2003-07-24 at 16:43, aron smith wrote:
> > I notice that now dmsg returns a unknown command
> > whats happining?
>
> Are you typing "dmsg" or "dmesg" ?
thanks was typing dmsg ..oops
anymore good commands to monitor system?


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RE: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures

[Dennis . R . Myers]

Title: RE: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures







-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Cody Harris
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 8:02 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures



- Original Message - 
From: "Dennis Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 12:07 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures
> Ok, do a console  and type su and the root password and then type the
urpmi
> lm_sensors and let it install, cause I don't think it is on your comp. HTH


[EMAIL PROTECTED] cody]# urpmi lm_sensors
no package named lm_sensors
[EMAIL PROTECTED] cody]#



> -- 
> Dennis M. linux user #180842
>
>








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Re: [newbie] Help me out [OT]

[Aron Smith]

On Thursday 24 July 2003 07:02 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
> On Thu, 2003-07-24 at 20:36, Michael Scottaline wrote:
> > I think you Aussies have an old saying:  "Vegetables?  Oh..., that's what
> > food eats!"
> > Mike
>
> Spot on!
Vegimite sandwitch anyone?


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Re: [newbie] Other Users Running?

[Cody Harris]

- Original Message - 
From: "Aron Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 12:00 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Other Users Running?


> On Tuesday 22 July 2003 11:13 pm, Cody Harris wrote:
> > I know theres a command for this, but how to i get a list of all the
logged
> > in users and what they are running (and what term they are on).
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > -Cody Harris
> >
> > Linux Rox My Sox!
> > Check out HCHS!
> > http://vectec.net
> >
> > Proud to use Mandrake Linux 8.1 as a server.
> > Not proud to use Windows as a primary server.
> >
> > Registered Linux user #315598
> > Registered Linux Computer #200951
> > Wrote on a Windoze Computer :(
> Ok I'll bite why wrote on a Win$ux computer ??

Why did i? I have to.

>
>
>






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Re: [newbie] ATTN Franki: amavis + trophie question

[Todd Slater]

Hi Franki,

On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 04:54:52AM +0800, Frankie wrote:
> well I can't specify with any certaintly what your problem
> is..
> 
> but when i did it on mdk9.0,
> I have amavis-new, and trophie running as amavis.amavis
> It worked straight off the bat once I did that.
> Have you asked the trophie developer what the -4 error is??
> Is it mentioned on his site?
> I still think its some sort of permissions thing.

I did ask about the -4 error on the tropie/sophie/virge list, but I
haven't received any response. Nor have I received any response on the
avamis list. The -4 error is not mentioned anywhere save regarding an
install on Red Hat. Something about the compiler and links unique to Red
Hat.

Here's another clue. After installing Trend, I was unable to connect to
port 1812 as the manual instructs. I thought it was just a configuration
gui, and since I think it's already configured OK I didn't think about
it. I don't know if the port needs to be open to work with Trophie or
not.

I'm going to go back and try setting up amavis to run as amavis.amavis,
change permissions on the folders as described in the amavis docs, and
recompile trophie to run as amavis.amavis. Argh!

Todd

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Re: [newbie] MS is at it again... Now Really OT!!!

[Curt Tresenriter]

On 24 Jul 2003 06:27:47 -0400
ed tharp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> > This list (and life in general) are not for you if you can not make
> > brief excusions into philosophy (real life).
> > Keith (living a joy filled life)  :)
> Sorry Keith, but it is not for you, nor me to decide what goes, or
> does not go on this list.
> The owners of the servers supporting this list, I am pretty damn sure,
> have the say.
> 
> It is my understanding that they set up this list to be a place where
> people just getting into the linux-mandrake "experience" can gather
> and discuss those thing pertaining to Linux-Mandrake. and while there
> is great scope covered under that umbrella, most of the thread,
> beginning with Anne's remarks (imho) do not belong on the newbie list.
> They would be just great on the OT list tho.

Not to mention the fact that this server space costs the company hosting it money.
Considering Mandrake's precarious financial condition, I believe it's unconcsionable 
to waste it.
You may consider this post as a waste but in reality,  it *is* Mandrake related and my 
point 
is a fact everyone should consider before posting here.

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Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures

[Cody Harris]

- Original Message - 
From: "Stephen Kuhn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mandrake Newbie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 7:50 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures


> On Thu, 2003-07-24 at 11:28, Cody Harris wrote:
>
> > I shut down cron
>
> "cron" is a very important part of the GNU/Linux system, mate...

I sends me e-mails like every second complaining, so i turned it off.

>
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>
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Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures

[Cody Harris]

- Original Message - 
From: "Dennis Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 12:07 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures
> Ok, do a console  and type su and the root password and then type the
urpmi
> lm_sensors and let it install, cause I don't think it is on your comp. HTH

[EMAIL PROTECTED] cody]# urpmi lm_sensors
no package named lm_sensors
[EMAIL PROTECTED] cody]#


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>
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Re: [newbie] i'm looking for a very good WYSIWYG editor other than Mozilla composer

[Todd Slater]

On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 08:05:28AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I need to get a web presence up and running soon and have a OSWD template
> I plan to be using but since i do not know or have the time to learn html
> I require a good WYSIWYG html editor to create my web pages.  Mozilla
> Composer has worked semi-decently though I notice It does not look very
> good on a windows based machine.  I'd like my page to look good on both
> platforms.  This is why i'm seeking a new editor.

How is that the fault of Mozilla? If you're not willing to take the time
to learn how to design a webpage (by learning about html and css etc.) I
don't know how switching tools is going to help you any.

Todd

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Re: [newbie] Help me out [OT]

[Stephen Kuhn]

On Thu, 2003-07-24 at 20:36, Michael Scottaline wrote:

> I think you Aussies have an old saying:  "Vegetables?  Oh..., that's what food
> eats!"
> Mike

Spot on!

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Re: [newbie] Learning Linux on a Pentium ?

[Charles-Roberts]

Erylon Hines wrote:

]On Wednesday 23 July 2003 05:21 pm, ThinKer wrote:
 

Hello All,

I've just inherited two very old machines (Original Pentium with 16MB
RAM each). I was wondering if there was anything I can download and
install on these machines. They are currently running Windows 95 and
they have Network cards already installed. I can put them on my network
and browse the Intenet. I would like to install some flavor of Linux.
Maybe a network or boot-floppy installation (since they only have 3.5
inch floppies) that will help me get more familiar with the way Linux
works.
   

Debian 'woody' requires only 12 mb of ram and 110 mb of hard disk space. 
Debian will run on 386 or higher. Of course this is an cli (command line 
interface) only system. Such as not an gui (graphical user interface). 
But if you are trying to learn 'linux' the cli is what you want. You can 
download with windows everything you need to get started. Debian is NOT 
an auto-install system, but the installation manual is very thorough. Be 
prepared to do a lot of reading & learning. Debian is a throughly modern 
'linux'. It has the best 'package' system. Once it is installed. you 
should never have to install it again. It can be upgrade to a new 
release 'in place'.

HTH
Charles

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Re: SCO WAS Re: [newbie] best way to update apps in Linux?

[Robin Turner]

Greg wrote:
http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104_2-5047571.html
As one reader commented: "the fat's really in the fire now." IANALA, but 
surely a clever lawyer could find a way to counter-sue on this - given 
that they have yet to prove their original case, it sounds very like 
extracting money with menaces.

Sir Robin

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Re: [newbie] Re: Robotics

[Marc O]

> > > > > Hm...i can say i want to start into electronics/robotics. My
>
> techie
>
> > > > > friend said that i should buy an 8 bit "controller" that i can
>
> download
>
> > > > > a program to. Would anyone know of such of a "processor"? How about
>
> any
>
> > > > > mailing lists? Sites? Anything? You can mail me directly if you
> > > > > wish
> > > >
> > > > You'll need to try electronic magazines for that type of
> > > > information/hardware.  No doubt you could find an abundant amount of
> > > > sites on the Internet through retailers and distributors.
> > >
> > >Have a look at Nuts And Volts Magazine they have at least one in
>
> depth
>
> > > article each month on robotics and adds from a lot of venders selling
> > > robotics stuff.
> > >
> > > Marc
> > > KM5KW
> >
> > Dude!
> >
> > Thank you for mentioning Nuts & Volts!  I've just checked out their site,
>
> and
>
> > I think I'm hooked (also thanks to the owner of this thread, I've been
> > thinking about this topic for some time.)
>
> What section is Nuts & Volts in? I havn't seen it in any chapters stores in
> the areas.
>
> And it isn't my thread, it everyones.
>
> > Jim.
>
   As far as I know you will not find it in the stores. You have to get a 
subscription or if you happen to have any friends involved in ham radio ask 
them if there is going to be a hamfest in your area soon. At most of the 
larger ham fests in the USA there seems to gennerally be a table set up with 
lots of free literature and free copys of Nuts And Volts. You may also be 
able to get a sample copy sent to you if you have a look around the Nuts And 
Volts web site.
 Marc
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Re: [newbie] Help me out

[Stephen Kuhn]

On Thu, 2003-07-24 at 11:29, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> On Wednesday 23 July 2003 08:42 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
> > Stephen Kuhn wrote:
> > >On Thu, 2003-07-24 at 04:16, Gene Barker wrote:
> > >>Hi Harv,
> > >>
> > >>I'm not a vegetarian but I do eat most of them except the "A" veggies.
> > >>Thanks for the welcome
> > >>
> > >>Gene Barker
> > >
> > >I hate eating vegetables. They just lay there.
> >
> > That was horrible. :-)
> 
> It can (and usually does) get worse:
> 
> Whats the first thing you remove from a vegetable before eating?
> 
> Depends...:-)
> 
> PS You might have to be semi-medical to get thator not.

The catheter.

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Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures

[Stephen Kuhn]

On Thu, 2003-07-24 at 11:28, Cody Harris wrote:

> I shut down cron

"cron" is a very important part of the GNU/Linux system, mate...

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Re: [newbie] Security

[Stephen Kuhn]

On Thu, 2003-07-24 at 16:43, aron smith wrote:
> I notice that now dmsg returns a unknown command 
> whats happining?

Are you typing "dmsg" or "dmesg" ?

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Re: [newbie] MS is at it again...

[ed tharp]

On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 01:09, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
> Curt Tresenriter wrote:
> 
> >On Tue, 2003-07-22 at 23:36, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>C Tresenriter wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>There's plenty of blame to go around. 
> >>>  
> >>>
> >>Agreed.  However, there is a line at which heated discussion turns into 
> >>verbal abuse.  You can tell a person that their information is wrong 
> >>with out attacking them personally.  That is when it crosses the line.
> >>
> >>
> >I didn't realize only one person using personal attacks, thought I saw
> >several.
> >  
> >
> >>>It takes two to tango. 
> >>>  
> >>>
> >>It takes two to debate. Unfortunately, one can start a war. :-(
> >>
> >>
> >One needs another to start a war 
> >
> 
> Agreed.  There does need to be a victim.
> 
> >- although *one* can certainly end a
> >war.
> >
> 
> I'm ending my part, whatever that may be, but in the future I will not 
> stand by and watch if someone (guess who?) again decides to attack 
> anyone else (Anne, etc.) without cause.
> 
> 


you _do_ realize that the only way to "win" a fight is not to fight? and
if you wish the "moral high ground" in any fight is to fight by the
rules, and one rule around here is to keep the fight in the ring? the OT
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Re: [newbie] Help me out [OT]

[Michael Scottaline]

On 24 Jul 2003 10:24:26 +1000
Stephen Kuhn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> insightfully noted:

>On Thu, 2003-07-24 at 04:16, Gene Barker wrote:
>> Hi Harv,
>> 
>> I'm not a vegetarian but I do eat most of them except the "A" veggies.
>> Thanks for the welcome
>> 
>> Gene Barker
>
>I hate eating vegetables. They just lay there.
>
===
I think you Aussies have an old saying:  "Vegetables?  Oh..., that's what food
eats!"
Mike
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Re: [newbie] MS is at it again... Now Really OT!!!

[ed tharp]

> This list (and life in general) are not for you if you can not make brief 
> excusions into philosophy (real life).
> Keith (living a joy filled life)  :)
Sorry Keith, but it is not for you, nor me to decide what goes, or does
not go on this list.
The owners of the servers supporting this list, I am pretty damn sure,
have the say.

It is my understanding that they set up this list to be a place where
people just getting into the linux-mandrake "experience" can gather and
discuss those thing pertaining to Linux-Mandrake. and while there is
great scope covered under that umbrella, most of the thread, beginning
with Anne's remarks (imho) do not belong on the newbie list. They would
be just great on the OT list tho.


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RE: [newbie] urpmi.addmedia mozilla

[Tony S. Sykes]

John,

Force it to use wget.

Tony.

-Original Message-
From: John Richard Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 11:28 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] urpmi.addmedia mozilla


H.J.Bathoorn wrote:

>On Thursday 24 July 2003 11:58, John Richard Smith wrote:
>  
>
>>Why does this fail ?
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# urpmi.addmedia mozilla
>>ftp://ftp.mirror.ac.uk/sites/sunsite.uio.no/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake/Ma
ndrak
>>e/9.1/contrib/RPMS with hdlist.cz
>>added medium mozilla
>>examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.texstar.cz]
>>examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.plf.cz]
>>examining synthesis file
[/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.jpackage.free.cz]
>>examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.main.cz]
>>retrieving description file of "mozilla"...
>>retrieving source hdlist (or synthesis) of "mozilla"...
>>
>>ftp://ftp.mirror.ac.uk/sites/sunsite.uio.no/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake/Ma
ndrak
>>e/9.1/contrib/RPMS/hdlist.cz ...retrieving failed: curl failed: exited
with
>>19 or signal 0
>>
>>retrieve of source hdlist (or synthesis) failed
>>no hdlist file found for medium "mozilla"
>>examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.mozilla.cz]
>>problem reading synthesis file of medium "mozilla"
>>unable to update medium "mozilla"
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]#
>>
>>
>>when headlist for source main was only updated last night.
>>
>>John
>>
>>
>
>It's synthesis.hdlist2.cz on that page.
>
>  
>
OK, but, now what is wrong ?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# urpmi.addmedia mozilla 
ftp://ftp.mirror.ac.uk/sites/sunsite.uio.no/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake/Mand
rake/9.1/contrib/RPMS 
with hdlist2.cz
added medium mozilla
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.texstar.cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.plf.cz]
examining synthesis file
[/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.jpackage.free.cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.main.cz]
retrieving description file of "mozilla"...
retrieving source hdlist (or synthesis) of "mozilla"...

ftp://ftp.mirror.ac.uk/sites/sunsite.uio.no/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake/Mand
rake/9.1/contrib/RPMS/hdlist2.cz
...retrieving failed: curl failed: exited with 19 or signal 0
 
retrieve of source hdlist (or synthesis) failed
no hdlist file found for medium "mozilla"
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.mozilla.cz]
problem reading synthesis file of medium "mozilla"
unable to update medium "mozilla"


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Re: [newbie] urpmi.addmedia mozilla

[John Richard Smith]

H.J.Bathoorn wrote:

On Thursday 24 July 2003 11:58, John Richard Smith wrote:
 

Why does this fail ?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# urpmi.addmedia mozilla
ftp://ftp.mirror.ac.uk/sites/sunsite.uio.no/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake/Mandrak
e/9.1/contrib/RPMS with hdlist.cz
added medium mozilla
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.texstar.cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.plf.cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.jpackage.free.cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.main.cz]
retrieving description file of "mozilla"...
retrieving source hdlist (or synthesis) of "mozilla"...
ftp://ftp.mirror.ac.uk/sites/sunsite.uio.no/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake/Mandrak
e/9.1/contrib/RPMS/hdlist.cz ...retrieving failed: curl failed: exited with
19 or signal 0
retrieve of source hdlist (or synthesis) failed
no hdlist file found for medium "mozilla"
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.mozilla.cz]
problem reading synthesis file of medium "mozilla"
unable to update medium "mozilla"
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]#
when headlist for source main was only updated last night.

John
   

It's synthesis.hdlist2.cz on that page.

 

OK, but, now what is wrong ?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# urpmi.addmedia mozilla 
ftp://ftp.mirror.ac.uk/sites/sunsite.uio.no/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake/Mandrake/9.1/contrib/RPMS 
with hdlist2.cz
added medium mozilla
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.texstar.cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.plf.cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.jpackage.free.cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.main.cz]
retrieving description file of "mozilla"...
retrieving source hdlist (or synthesis) of "mozilla"...
   
ftp://ftp.mirror.ac.uk/sites/sunsite.uio.no/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake/Mandrake/9.1/contrib/RPMS/hdlist2.cz
...retrieving failed: curl failed: exited with 19 or signal 0

retrieve of source hdlist (or synthesis) failed
no hdlist file found for medium "mozilla"
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.mozilla.cz]
problem reading synthesis file of medium "mozilla"
unable to update medium "mozilla"
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Re: [newbie] urpmi.addmedia mozilla

[H.J.Bathoorn]

On Thursday 24 July 2003 11:58, John Richard Smith wrote:
> Why does this fail ?
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# urpmi.addmedia mozilla
> ftp://ftp.mirror.ac.uk/sites/sunsite.uio.no/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake/Mandrak
>e/9.1/contrib/RPMS with hdlist.cz
> added medium mozilla
> examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.texstar.cz]
> examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.plf.cz]
> examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.jpackage.free.cz]
> examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.main.cz]
> retrieving description file of "mozilla"...
> retrieving source hdlist (or synthesis) of "mozilla"...
>
> ftp://ftp.mirror.ac.uk/sites/sunsite.uio.no/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake/Mandrak
>e/9.1/contrib/RPMS/hdlist.cz ...retrieving failed: curl failed: exited with
> 19 or signal 0
>
> retrieve of source hdlist (or synthesis) failed
> no hdlist file found for medium "mozilla"
> examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.mozilla.cz]
> problem reading synthesis file of medium "mozilla"
> unable to update medium "mozilla"
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]#
>
>
> when headlist for source main was only updated last night.
>
> John

It's synthesis.hdlist2.cz on that page.

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[newbie] urpmi.addmedia mozilla

[John Richard Smith]

Why does this fail ?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# urpmi.addmedia mozilla 
ftp://ftp.mirror.ac.uk/sites/sunsite.uio.no/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake/Mandrake/9.1/contrib/RPMS 
with hdlist.cz
added medium mozilla
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.texstar.cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.plf.cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.jpackage.free.cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.main.cz]
retrieving description file of "mozilla"...
retrieving source hdlist (or synthesis) of "mozilla"...
   
ftp://ftp.mirror.ac.uk/sites/sunsite.uio.no/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake/Mandrake/9.1/contrib/RPMS/hdlist.cz
...retrieving failed: curl failed: exited with 19 or signal 0

retrieve of source hdlist (or synthesis) failed
no hdlist file found for medium "mozilla"
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.mozilla.cz]
problem reading synthesis file of medium "mozilla"
unable to update medium "mozilla"
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]#
when headlist for source main was only updated last night.

John

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Re: [newbie] Learning Linux on a Pentium ?

[H.J.Bathoorn]

On Thursday 24 July 2003 04:09, Erylon Hines wrote:
> From experience, the only distros that will work well on these machines are
> old (meaning less eye-candy) and out-of-date.  I have a P75 with 32 meg
> that does fine on the 486 (Yes, 486) version of Mandrake 7.01.  Those
> machines were tedious with any version (even 7.x) optimized for the Penium.
>  RedHat 386 (circa 6.x) ran fine on a P90 with 32 megs.  An old Caldera 2.4
> was o.k. on a P75 with 16 megs, but nothin' to write home about.  Can't
> give you any url's to dl, but at least some should be available.   Where
> are you??,  I could burn you a copy of mdk for 486 and mail it, if you are
> in the U.S. or Canada.  No way I can load it to you--I'm on dial-up 8(.
>
> ]On Wednesday 23 July 2003 05:21 pm, ThinKer wrote:
> > Hello All,
> >
> >  I've just inherited two very old machines (Original Pentium with 16MB
> > RAM each). I was wondering if there was anything I can download and
> > install on these machines. They are currently running Windows 95 and
> > they have Network cards already installed. I can put them on my network
> > and browse the Intenet. I would like to install some flavor of Linux.
> > Maybe a network or boot-floppy installation (since they only have 3.5
> > inch floppies) that will help me get more familiar with the way Linux
> > works.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Thinker

I had the best (that's talking speed) results with Slackware7.1 on a simular 
machine.
If you want more modern stuf try out Slack9.1, but don't try KDE or Gnome.
Using a leightweight window-manager makes it usable but fairly slow.

If you can get your hands on more RAM you get much better resultsabove 64M 
you can even use a slow KDE3. Above that Mandrake9.1 will even run 
acceptably. 

Check out the speednix list Todd put up for more tips:

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RE: [newbie] urpmi as a user and not root

[Tony S. Sykes]

Thanks all, I am going to look into sudo and rsync and see if any of
these fit the bill. Once I get something working I will post again to
let others know.

Thanks,

Tony.

-Original Message-
From: Frankie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 5:49 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [newbie] urpmi as a user and not root


To be honest, I don't know with any certainty, but I doubt
it

Other ideas that occured to me was to setup a proxy on that
internal machine and use iptables to transparently forward
all port 21 stuff to the proxy, and have the proxy user
registed with the winblows proxy...

lol... I still think it might be easier to find out what
user wget is running as.. and register that with the
firewall.

Actually, if he tries running Mandrakeupdate, and runs top
in a terminal, he may well be able to find out what user
wget is using to access the ftp servers..

Still, there are more problems with that as well.

I personally think he should use rsync to mirror the updates
dir on one of the FTP server
then add that rsync'd dir as an update source for urpmi...

The whole lot could run from cron.


regards

Franki

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
H.J.Bathoorn
Sent: Thursday, 24 July 2003 12:09 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] urpmi as a user and not root


On Wednesday 23 July 2003 17:20, Frankie wrote:
> I had a thought on this that "might" be feasable..

Frankie how about softlinking a directory to a remote site
and using that?
Wouldn't that be feasible? I've never tried so I don't know.
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Re: [newbie] i'm looking for a very good WYSIWYG editor other than Mozilla composer

[Kaj Haulrich]

On Thursday 24 July 2003 08:05 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I need to get a web presence up and running soon and have a
> OSWD template I plan to be using but since i do not know or
> have the time to learn html I require a good WYSIWYG html
> editor to create my web pages.  Mozilla Composer has worked
> semi-decently though I notice It does not look very good on a
> windows based machine.  I'd like my page to look good on both
> platforms.  This is why i'm seeking a new editor.
>
>

You can use quanta (it's on your CD's), but if you know nothing 
at all about html, Open Office Writer lets you do html nicely.

HTH

Kaj Haulrich.
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