Re: [newbie] Mail Config?

2004-02-09 Thread frankieh
Hoyt Bailey wrote:

I need to configure my mail system and I want to include spamassassin in the
mix.
I figure there are a number of ways to accomplish this.
What I would like are some suggestions.  What programs are best to use with
spamassassin?
Or what programs do you use witn spamassassin?
Regards;
Hoyt


My personal preference is to use amavis-new...  a very cool Perl daemon 
postfix content filter that is very fast..

you can set it up to scan for virus's, or spam, or both...

I know of many ISP's using it now..   so its fast.. I've been using 
various versions of amavis for about 5 years now.. been very happy with it.
http://www.ijs.si/software/amavisd/

regards

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Re: [newbie] Mail Config?

2004-02-09 Thread Derek Jennings
On Monday 09 Feb 2004 4:38 am, Hoyt Bailey wrote:
 I need to configure my mail system and I want to include spamassassin in
 the mix.
 I figure there are a number of ways to accomplish this.
 What I would like are some suggestions.  What programs are best to use with
 spamassassin?
 Or what programs do you use witn spamassassin?

 Regards;
 Hoyt


If all you want to do is provide mail for a single user (or small group of 
users), then all you really need do is run spamassassin as a filter in your 
mail client. No need for a mail server if you do not need one.

The Sylpheed-claws mail client has a Spamassassin plugin (install the 
sylpheed-claws-spamassassin-plugin RPM)  I have not used it myself, but I'm 
sure you could work it out.

It is also quite easy to configure kmail to run spamassassin as a filter. 
Check out this post from the archives
http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg148384.html
(You will need to install perl-Mail-Spamassassin)

BTW: Charles Edwards has some lovely up to date RPMS for both Spamassassin and 
Sylpheed-claws at http://www.eslrahc.com/
If you have not already done so, then add him as a urpmi source.

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Re: [newbie] Mail Config?

2004-02-09 Thread Derek Jennings
On Monday 09 Feb 2004 4:38 am, Hoyt Bailey wrote:
 I need to configure my mail system and I want to include spamassassin in
 the mix.
 I figure there are a number of ways to accomplish this.
 What I would like are some suggestions.  What programs are best to use with
 spamassassin?
 Or what programs do you use witn spamassassin?

 Regards;
 Hoyt

I should have also mentioned in my last post :-

If you want to go the whole hog and install a Postfix mail server with 
Spamassassin, procmail, fetchmail, IMAP and Clam-AV there is a HOWTO on my 
home page. But its quite a lot more work than just setting up kmail to use 
SpamAssassin.

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Re: [newbie] Wherfore art thou $PATH?

2004-02-09 Thread Raffaele Belardi
You can  find some more scripts potentially modifying PATH under 
/etc/profile.d. On my system, msec.sh and local.sh (the latter modified 
by me) actually change the PATH.

raffaele

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,

[EMAIL PROTECTED] fubarski]$ echo $PATH
/usr//bin:/bin:/usr/bin::/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/games:/usr/lib/jre-1.4.1_01/bin
	I don't particularly like the fact that I the // and the :: are  a part 
of $PATH.  I can't seem to find where these are inserted, however.

	I use BASH and I can't find these items in /etc/profile, ~/.bash_profile or 
~/.bashrc.  As far as my limited knowledge is concerned, /etc/profile is the 
first file to be considered, and it adds /usr/X11R6/bin, so I guess the 
question is where is $PATH defined before /etc/profile?

	I'm using 9.1.

With an advance of thanks,
James Henry Maiewski
20 Plain Road East
South Deerfield, Massachusetts

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Re: [newbie] Mail Config?

2004-02-09 Thread frankieh
I should also mention that with my suggestion for 
amavis-new/spamassassin with postfix...

The contribs for mdk9.2 includes packages for amavis-new, all its 
dependencies, clamd and spamassassin.
So using them makes it a simple rpm only setup.

rgds

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Re: [newbie] any nice person out there with the kde 3.2 for mdk9.2 rpms

2004-02-09 Thread Paul Kaplan
ftp://mandrake.contactel.cz/people/bluehawk/kde32-92

ftp://mandrake.contactel.cz/people/bluehawk/kde32-92

These links were provided in the feedback to the note on pclinuxonline.com.

Paul

On Monday 09 February 2004 05:30 am, anton wrote:
 Is there someone out there with a webserver and a nice traffic policy
 like to mirror this so this guys server doesn't get bogged down? And so
 unlucky b'stards like me on dialup can have a go without leaving the
 rest of the community waiting for ... well, days?

 ftp://voidstar.dyndns.org/mirrors/kde32-for-mdk92/i586

 Cheers
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Re: [newbie] Do I need to block these ports

2004-02-09 Thread Lanman
Ramin; Shorewall blocks all ports that you don't specify.
So unless you specifically open a port it will remain
closed along with all the others that are left untouched.
If you want to get into advanced configuration of
Shorewall, an easy way to access it is through webmin which
should already be installed and running on your system.
Using the link below, go to the Networking section and
click on Shorewall. If you are accesing webmin from another
PC, substitute the IP address of the machine running
Shorewall for the term localhost

https://localhost:1

Hope that helps.

Lanman

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On 2/8/2004 at 9:57 PM Ramin wrote:

On February 8, 2004 05:29 am, Lanman wrote:
 Maureen; It would be a good idea to block those ports
even
 though they are fairly safe as is. Head into your
Mandrake
 Control Center and find the Security section, where you
can
 setup your firewall. That should allow you to block off
the
 ports that you don't want open.

 Lanman

I am having two unused ports open. However firewall setup
in the mandrake
control center,  the security section does not give me any
option to close
those ports. In advance mode, it only gives the option to
open ports
¨Which
services would you like to allows the internet to connect
to?¨ Then some
general options such as ftp, ssh or everything are
mentioned to be checked
or
not and a box where i can open the specified ports!
  Besides i don´t know where is the file where one can
add lines for the
to
close/open ports. There is a file /etc/services which
apparently is just
for
information, right?
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Re: [newbie] any nice person out there with the kde 3.2 for mdk9.2 rpms

2004-02-09 Thread Lanman
Anton; One Any Nice Person coming right up. To all those
interested, my ftp server has been set for KDE 3.2  RPM
downloads. These RPM's are for Mandrake 9.2.
Be careful though. I only have 800K upload abilities.
Here's the link.

ftp://ftp.maximumlans.com

Log in as newbie with password newbie

Enjoy!

Lanman 

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On 2/9/2004 at 6:30 PM anton wrote:

Is there someone out there with a webserver and a nice
traffic policy 
like to mirror this so this guys server doesn't get bogged
down? And so 
unlucky b'stards like me on dialup can have a go without
leaving the 
rest of the community waiting for ... well, days?

ftp://voidstar.dyndns.org/mirrors/kde32-for-mdk92/i586

Cheers
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Re: [newbie] DVD -RW

2004-02-09 Thread Poogle
On Sunday 08 Feb 2004 19:02, Ron Stodden wrote:
 Poogle wrote:
  Using Optorite DVD writer which is DVD-R, DVE+R, DVD-RW  DVD+RW
  compatible. X-CD-Roast  0.98alpha14 with
  cdrecord-prodvd-2.01a12-i586-pc-linux-gnu installed.
  Memorex DVD-R writes O.K.
  Unbranded (datasafe) DVD+RW writes O.K.
  Now here's the problem - Packard Bell DVD-RW's cause a complete lock up,
  Caps lock  Scroll lock flash and only reboot clears it.
  The same DVD-RWs work in Win98 with the supplied software.
  I read that some drives/media/Linux DVD writing software combinations
  don't play nicely together so I'm wondering if it is the DVDs but before
  I buy any more, has anybody got DVD-RWs to work ?

 DVD+RW is the way to go, since it supports random r/w, which means you
 can place a file system on a DVD+RW blank and use it as a 4.4GB
 demountable medium with the normal file drag  drop, delete, etc.
 Optical technology has finally arrived!

 Firstly, alter your /etc/fstab for the DVD writer to provide options rw
 and noatime.   These work in kernel 2.4, but curiously didn't make it
 into 2.6.   Secondly, make a file system on it using one of the mk???fs
 utilities.   I prefer a UDF file system, but you will have to compile
 your own mkudffs.   UDF is the file system used for DVD movies.

 Also do a google search on 'growisofs' and read all about DVD+RW.
 Download the tools.growisofs is an extremely useful and simple DVD
 utility and replaces cdrecord, etc for DVDs.

Thanks Ron,
I'll give it a go when I get a little more time
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Re: [newbie] insmod reports error because no floppy

2004-02-09 Thread Guy Rouillier
On Sun, 8 Feb 2004 08:09:57 -0500
Ronald J. Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sunday 08 February 2004 02:45 am, Guy Rouillier wrote:
 -I just got a new laptop that has no floppy.  With both Mandrake 9.2
 -32-bit and the AMD64 beta, every time they boot they print out an
 insmod-error during checking for new hardware because the box has
 no floppy-disk drive.  Everything appears to work fine, so the
 message is just-a minor irritation.  How can I tell the kernel not to
 look for a floppy-during bootup? The only mention I could find of a
 floppy in startup-config files was ide-floppy in devfsd(not booted at
 the moment, I think-that was it.) Can I simply remove that? Thanks.
 
 If you've got everything else going the way that you want, why not
 just turn harddrake off under MCC - services so it won't even check
 for new hardware?

I plug in a USB mouse and compact flash into the built-in memory card
reader.  If I don't leave harddrake active, those are not detected.  I
have done that on other installations though.  Thanks for the idea.

 
 (just don't forget to turn it back on if you do add new hardware)
 
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Re: [newbie] Mail Config?

2004-02-09 Thread Hoyt Bailey

- Original Message - 
From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 01:52
Subject: Re: [newbie] Mail Config?


 On Monday 09 Feb 2004 4:38 am, Hoyt Bailey wrote:
  I need to configure my mail system and I want to include spamassassin in
  the mix.
  I figure there are a number of ways to accomplish this.
  What I would like are some suggestions.  What programs are best to use
with
  spamassassin?
  Or what programs do you use witn spamassassin?
 
  Regards;
  Hoyt

 I should have also mentioned in my last post :-

 If you want to go the whole hog and install a Postfix mail server with
 Spamassassin, procmail, fetchmail, IMAP and Clam-AV there is a HOWTO on my
 home page. But its quite a lot more work than just setting up kmail to use
 SpamAssassin.

 derek
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 http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org

If you are 'dman' I already have it.  One of the things that conviced me.
I'll check it out.  Thanks for your input. Good to know.
Regards;
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Re: [newbie] Mail Config?

2004-02-09 Thread Hoyt Bailey

- Original Message - 
From: frankieh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 02:27
Subject: Re: [newbie] Mail Config?


 I should also mention that with my suggestion for 
 amavis-new/spamassassin with postfix...
 
 The contribs for mdk9.2 includes packages for amavis-new, all its 
 dependencies, clamd and spamassassin.
 So using them makes it a simple rpm only setup.
 
 
 rgds
 
 Franki
 
Thanks franki this is what I wanted.  I'll check it out.
Regards;
Hoyt


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[newbie] KDE 3.2 RPM's

2004-02-09 Thread Lanman
Well I guess it didn't take too long for the word to get
out! Grin!

Lanman


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[newbie] How to update to 10b2

2004-02-09 Thread Caio



Is there a way to updtae do mandrake 10, without 
burning the iso? My cd-r is broken... 
Can I download the 10b2, and 
install?

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Lanman 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 10:44 
  AM
  Subject: [newbie] KDE 3.2 RPM's
  Well I guess it didn't take too long for the word to 
  getout! Grin!Lanman
  
  

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[newbie] Laptop/notebook question(S)

2004-02-09 Thread Ronald J. Hall
I've been looking at some laptop/notebook stuff, and was just wondering about 
Dells stuff. My wife says we can swing one around tax time grin.

Does it work pretty good with Mandrake?

If you had to choose, would you pick Intel Xtreme, ATI mobility, or Nvidias' 
NForce? (and why?)

Thanks all!

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RE: [newbie] Laptop/notebook question(S)

2004-02-09 Thread Alastair Scott
 
Ronald wrote:

 I've been looking at some laptop/notebook stuff, and was just 
 wondering about Dells stuff. My wife says we can swing one 
 around tax time grin.
 
 Does it work pretty good with Mandrake?

I have never had problems with _older_ Dell machines (Latitudes and
Inspirons) and Mandrake, unlike some other laptop brands; 9.2 installed
out of the box on my C610.

 If you had to choose, would you pick Intel Xtreme, ATI 
 mobility, or Nvidias' 
 NForce? (and why?)

To be honest, there is little difference in performance and features.
What might swing it is the driver support which, in my experience, is
(in descending order of quality):

NVIDIA
ATI
Intel

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Re: [newbie] Laptop/notebook question(S)

2004-02-09 Thread Allen
You might also want to check out a site called 
linuxonlaptops.com or something like that. I'm not sure 
about the exact email address as I don't have a laptop 
sadly. But I would love to get one to load Linux on. I 
write tutorials for installing Linux to help out. I can't 
program so I cant write open code, so I do my part by 
making Linux easier for people who are new to it. I'v 
written install tutorials for Slackware 9.1, SuSE 8.1, and 
Libranet, which is a Debian based distro. I plan on doing 
Mandrake when I get my other box back, which is hopefully 
in the next few days. I also take requests :) Sorry I'm 
rambling on lol. It's almost 10 AM and I'm still awake. If 
you want to see any tutorials I'v done, or want to ask me 
for a request to write a Linux install tutorial, just mail 
me :) I won't do Gentoo as I don't like them. I know how 
the install goes, but I just don't like them. Also it would 
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Re: [newbie] insmod reports error because no floppy

2004-02-09 Thread Olivier Esser
Guy Rouillier wrote:
On Sun, 8 Feb 2004 08:09:57 -0500
Ronald J. Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Sunday 08 February 2004 02:45 am, Guy Rouillier wrote:
-I just got a new laptop that has no floppy.  With both Mandrake 9.2
-32-bit and the AMD64 beta, every time they boot they print out an
insmod-error during checking for new hardware because the box has
no floppy-disk drive.  Everything appears to work fine, so the
message is just-a minor irritation.  How can I tell the kernel not to
look for a floppy-during bootup? The only mention I could find of a
floppy in startup-config files was ide-floppy in devfsd(not booted at
the moment, I think-that was it.) Can I simply remove that? Thanks.
Not only the kernel will gave you this error message: lauch DrakConf 
*from a terminal*, give the root passwoed and you will see in the 
terminal 2 or three times this message. This does not have any 
consequence except that it take a few seconds to fail each time it try 
to load the floppy module. The easier workaround I have found is to 
insert the following line

insmod floppy /bin/false

in /etc/modules.conf

This will cause the inserting of floppy to fail immediatly (you will see 
that DrakConf, for example, start much faster).

You could disable this message by inserting insmod floppy /bin/true 
insted of insmod floppy /bin/false in /etc/modules.conf. Howhever if 
you do this the system will still try to insert the floppy module 
without succeed but believing it has succeed. I wouldn't suggest you to 
do this.

If you've got everything else going the way that you want, why not
just turn harddrake off under MCC - services so it won't even check
for new hardware?


I plug in a USB mouse and compact flash into the built-in memory card
reader.  If I don't leave harddrake active, those are not detected.  I
have done that on other installations though.  Thanks for the idea.

(just don't forget to turn it back on if you do add new hardware)

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[newbie] GrSec howto...

2004-02-09 Thread Marty Phee
How do I get grsec to allow me to execute a script file?

Some scripts work fine and others don't.  I don't get why, but I found this in 
my dmesg output:

grsec: denied exec of ./build.sh by (bash:23577) UID(501) EUID(501), parent 
(bash:30327) UID(501) EUID(501) reason: untrusted


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Re: [newbie] Whats happinging

2004-02-09 Thread Daniel Anderson
On Wed, 2004-02-04 at 18:45, Rick Kunath wrote:
   Aron; IPCOP or Smoothwall 2.0 should be fine. I don't know
   if IPCOP allows you to do remote management of the
   firewall,
 
 Yes, IPcop does allow remote management of the firewall.
 
 I have just such a setup as you diagrammed, and it is running on some pretty 
 old hardware. You don't need a CD-ROM drive except for the install, and need 
 a floppy drive only for firewall configuration backups. I remove the keyboard 
 and monitor after I get IPcop installed, and the rest can be administered 
 either locally or remotely via a web interface or ssh.
 
 I am currently running it on a P133 with 32 megs of ram and a 1.2 GB hard 
 drive. It can easily saturate my 2Mbps incoming connection, and because the 
 green-side NIC is a 100Tx card, I get over 80Mbps speeds from the firewall's 
 transparent cache into any of my workstations.
 
 You won't need the third NIC for use as you describe.
 
  I would get a switch instead of a hub, though. Since traffic on a switch 
 isn't routed onto every port, you won't see speed decreases in your browsing 
 if you are doing, say, a backup or transfer between two other machines on 
 your local network segment. And a switch really isn't that much more money. 
 
 IPcop is in active development and has a really friendly and helpful user base 
 and mailing list. It's also real easy to set up and get going. I have used it 
 since the original fork, and can say nothing but good things about it and 
 it's community of users.
 
 I am just a satisfied user and am not associated with the group or the 
 developers.
 
 Rick Kunath
Hi,
I wonder if you can help me figure out how to use ipcop with a verizon
dsl connection. I'v tried twice to sub to the ipcop list, but haven't
got a confirmation. The modem is a westell b90-210015-04. I'm currently
using mnf on a mdk9.1 installation, and a dsl pppoe connection. Haven't
been able to get it to work with ipcop or smoothwall.
Thanks 
Dan

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Re: [newbie] Fwd: Speakeasy.net Virus Notification

2004-02-09 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 06 February 2004 18:03, Aron Smith wrote:

 ;-) What Got me was it was from a CVS resoporty

Probably not - remember heading spoofing?

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Re: [newbie] ICS-everything works but www

2004-02-09 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 07 February 2004 11:38, Jerry Barton wrote:
 mkd 10 beta 2.  I have Internet Connection Sharing pretty much
 working except for one thing.  The internal network computers can
 access everything but the WWW.  Yahoo, winmx, irc, email, etc. all
 work, but the internal computers cannot access the web.
 I've always used an iptables rc.firewall to do this and not
 shorewall which is what is being used now.  Any pointers on where
 to start looking would be greatly appreciated.  This is the one
 thing keeping me from upgrading to a 2.6 kernel permanantly.  If i
 need to post any .confs please let me know which.  Thanks in
 advance! :-)

 Jerry

Is your isp's dns server in /etc/resolve.conf ?

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Re: [newbie] application/x.java-vm complaint in mozilla (2nd time)

2004-02-09 Thread Charlie Mahan
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Sunday 08 February 2004 11:55 pm, Paul Harrison wrote:
 Still don't have a reply to this, so I'm reposting.

 I know I have Java installed, for many applets work, but there are some,
 eg http://world.std.com/~reinhold/BigNumCalc.html, which require a
 application/x.java-vm plug-in.

 I've Googled but cannot seem to find an answer...can anyone help?

 TIA,

 Paul

Paul I just tried that URL and while it works fine with Mozilla, Firebird, and 
Galeon; it dies a horrible death in Konqueror.

What version of Mozilla, of Mandrake, and how did you install Java? Also is it 
the Java from Sun or one of the others?

Check the archives for a thread with the subject Mozilla Java plug-in 
problems to see if any of the advice there will help. Archives are available 
at many sites, one of the best IMHO is:

http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-newbier=1w=2

The thread you need is from early to mid December.

HTH
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Re: [newbie] S.O.S: Help with full root directory!

2004-02-09 Thread Richard Urwin
On Monday 09 Feb 2004 3:09 am, Ron Stodden wrote:
 Ramin wrote:
  Hi,
 I am getting full root directory problem! I was not able to
  login to KDE due to this, Fortunately i could login to xfce and i
  uninstalled some applications to free space. through this way i
  gained about 700MG from my 7.8GB / directory which was %99.9 full!
  I managed to login to KDE. Shortly later (just less than half an
  hour!!!), i am again getting %99 full / directory and i am afraid
  this may very soon cause problems. So what should i do?

 I am quite familiar with this behaviour, and in fact diagnosed what
 is happening and fixed it here.   Unfortunately it was a while ago
 and I cannot recollect.

 BUT, you will certainly fix it if you use tar to copy out the entire
 partition data to another partition (retain this as a backup) with a
 third partition your active Linux.  Make a new file system in the
 was-errant partition.   Then copy the data back again.You must
 use tar because it alone has the capability of dumping and correctly
 restoring the /dev directory.

So you're recommending he formats his root partition?
Let's say again, although you did mention it, that to do that he needs 
to boot from another partition, or from a CD such as Knopix or Mandrake 
Move. Otherwise it's either impossible or very messy. In fact the 
entire process should be done from this other boot partition, because 
otherwise tar might record an inconsistent image (File X is from time 
a, but file Y is from time b. Where files X and Y are required to agree 
with one another.)

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Blogging [was Re: [newbie] CD Burning CLI style]

2004-02-09 Thread robin
Todd Slater wrote:

On another note, I'm compiling a list of feeds of Linux users who blog
on the topic of Linux somewhat regularly. Not so much developer-type
blogs, but end-user blogs.
Nice idea. I blog occasionally on Linux/OSS/general computer issues, but 
I wouldn't say I did it regularly. However, the URL is 
www.livejournal.com/users/solri for anyone who's interested.

Sir Robin

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[newbie] lpr problem in 9.2

2004-02-09 Thread Len Lawrence
Another printing problem.  Running Mandrake 9.2 with on my new laptop (plug
from EmperorLinux /plug).  OpenOffice.org prints a document without problems,
the test page comes out fine, but trying to output a PostScript file with lpr
produces a page which is approximately 60% of the required size, something which
did not happen on my desktop system under 9.1.  I tinkered with the 
-o scaling=% value option to lpr but this was totally ignored.  Does anybody
know if there is a solution for this?

As an aside, the localhost:631 interface allows root to modify a printer but not
to configure it - the latter raises a server error (? CUPS ?).

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[newbie] Help! Linux won't boot! Someone experienced in partitions and hard drives !

2004-02-09 Thread Marc Resnick



Okay here's what I did this time. Partition Magic 
wouldn't resize my Linux partition, and I needed more space. So I created a 
FAT32 partition for some extra storage. Everything went fine creating it. I 
restarted, and tried to boot Linux, but I got a Linux Ext2 mounting error. It 
said there was a Kernel Panic Error(which sounds pretty pad) and I should try 
passing intrd= into the kernel, or something like that. So then I figured I'd 
delete the partition, cause maybe linux wasn't recognizing it, then I'd create 
it through Linux. So I go into PM in Windows, and it won't delete it because 
it's an 'unrecognized format'. There were no errors it picked up though. So then 
I tried formattingit to NTFS, thinking it might recognizethat. I 
formatted it, tried deleting it, and I got the same 
error.Anyideason what I should do?

Quick answer would be nice,
Marc 


Re: [newbie] insmod reports error because no floppy

2004-02-09 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Sunday 08 February 2004 08:51 pm, Guy Rouillier wrote:

-I plug in a USB mouse and compact flash into the built-in memory card
-reader.  If I don't leave harddrake active, those are not detected.  I
-have done that on other installations though.  Thanks for the idea.

You should be able to setup those up with no need for detection though. I've 
got a 64mb USB device that I plug in, it has an icon assigned to it on my KDE 
desktop and it works without harddrake being active.

Of course, I've got supermount disabled, and all my removables are like that, 
so that might make a difference.

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Re: [newbie] application/x.java-vm complaint in mozilla (2nd time)

2004-02-09 Thread Paul Harrison
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Well it took 3 hours but we got there in the end!

Simple answer: go to

http://www.goland.org/Tech/Installing_Java_in_Mandrake_9_1.html

 do exactly what it says.

I have it permanently bookmarked now...

P

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Re: [newbie] One question, one desperate plea for help.

2004-02-09 Thread Anne Wilson
On Sunday 08 February 2004 23:55, Rob Blomquist wrote:
 On Sunday 08 February 2004 7:38 am, Marc Resnick droned on:
  The question: I want to add more space to my Linux partition. I
  used PartitionMagic to make my Windows XP NTFS partition smaller,
  but could only add that space to the overall Extended Partition,
  not the separate Linux space. I therefore suspect that there is
  some way through Linux to do this. Any help would be appreciated.

 You really don't need to expand your linux partition. I am assuming
 that you have a partition available for use.

 All you need to do is move some part of it away from /. Depending
 on what's big this could be /usr. /usr/local, /home, the really
 hard ones to move are /bin, /sbin, /boot, /etc and so on as they
 are vital to how linux runs all the time.

 Pick one, set up mounting and formatting that partition as
 /mnt/temp, not as the folder you want to move it to, test the
 partition as workable by copying stuff to and from it without
 errors, then drop out of X, and log in as root, and move the files.
 Then unmount the folder, and edit fstab to point from /mnt/temp to
 /etc, for example.

 Voila, free space!

If you want a detailed description of how I tackled such a move, look 
at the 'drive full' section on 
http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/ProBlems

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Re: [newbie] application/x.java-vm complaint in mozilla (2nd time)

2004-02-09 Thread Charlie Mahan
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Monday 09 February 2004 2:57 pm, Paul Harrison wrote:
 Well it took 3 hours but we got there in the end!

 Simple answer: go to

 http://www.goland.org/Tech/Installing_Java_in_Mandrake_9_1.html

  do exactly what it says.

 I have it permanently bookmarked now...

 P

Basically everything on that site is available from the newbie list archives, 
or on the Community Wiki as far as I know. Almost word for word in fact.

Good bookmark though, it'll probably help if you remember to post it for 
others that are having the same difficulties you were.

Regards;
Charlie
addendum: I just checked the Wiki, it appears nobody has added a One Pager 
to install java and set up the browser plug-ins. I'll have to add that to my 
round-to-it file. The only question is what heading to put it under.
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Re: [newbie] Help! Linux won't boot! --More Info!!

2004-02-09 Thread amped


- Original Message -
From: Marc Resnick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, February 9, 2004 4:12 pm
Subject: [newbie] Help! Linux won't boot! Someone experienced in partitions and hard 
drives !

 Okay here's what I did this time. Partition Magic wouldn't resize 
 my Linux partition, and I needed more space. So I created a FAT32 
 partition for some extra storage. Everything went fine creating 
 it. I restarted, and tried to boot Linux, but I got a Linux Ext2 
 mounting error. It said there was a Kernel Panic Error(which 
 sounds pretty pad) and I should try passing intrd= into the 
 kernel, or something like that. So then I figured I'd delete the 
 partition, cause maybe linux wasn't recognizing it, then I'd 
 create it through Linux. So I go into PM in Windows, and it won't 
 delete it because it's an 'unrecognized format'. There were no 
 errors it picked up though. So then I tried formatting it to NTFS, 
 thinking it might recognize that. I formatted it, tried deleting 
 it, and I got the same error. Any ideas on what I should do?
 
 Quick answer would be nice,
 Marc  
 

Okay so I tried again, and I found that the message is Try passing init= option to 
kernel. So at Lilo, I press esc. I typed linux init=/dev/hda7. Then I tried 
/dev/hda5. Then I tried hda5 and hda7. In case you haven't figured it out yet, my 
Linux partition is hda5, my root partition is hda7(I think). I have no boot disk, 
because I have no floppy drive, so no solution there. Anyone have any ideas?


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Re: [newbie] GTK2 and Sylpheed Claws WORKS!

2004-02-09 Thread JoeHill
On Thu, 5 Feb 2004 20:24:01 -0600
John Drouhard disseminated the following:

 Enjoy your new gtk2 sylpheed-claws

Just did a CVS update, and folder properties are configurable now.

The address book still hangs the app, and theres a weird thing when you first start 
it, it shows all messages in your folders as unread in the folder pane. It eventually 
went away when I had to kill SC because of the address book thing.

Oh, and the wrapping appears to be working now. :-)

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Re: [newbie] GTK2 and Sylpheed Claws WORKS!

2004-02-09 Thread JoeHill
On Thu, 5 Feb 2004 20:24:01 -0600
John Drouhard disseminated the following:

 Enjoy your new gtk2 sylpheed-claws

Oh, and the wrapping appears to be working now. :-)

...maybe not... :-\

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Re: [newbie] Fwd: Speakeasy.net Virus Notification

2004-02-09 Thread Aron Smith
On Monday 09 February 2004 09:07 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Friday 06 February 2004 18:03, Aron Smith wrote:
  ;-) What Got me was it was from a CVS resoporty

 Probably not - remember heading spoofing?
Yes -After some one mentioned it :0

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[newbie] ldm_validate_partition failed

2004-02-09 Thread Todd Slater
I had something funky happen, probably related to a
cd-burning/cache-clearing mishap and/or a power failure.

Anyway, when I try to boot, I get endless ldm_validate_partition failed
messages. I do a hard reset and boot into nonfb or secure and everything
seems normal. Any ideas on how to fix the normal boot?

Todd

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Re: [newbie] GTK2 and Sylpheed Claws WORKS!

2004-02-09 Thread JoeHill
On Thu, 5 Feb 2004 20:24:01 -0600
John Drouhard disseminated the following:

 Anyway, I may make an RPM for it once I figure a couple more
 things out.

Checkinstall-built RPM here:

http://www.orderinchaos.org/Sylpheed-Claws-CVS020904-1mdk.i586.rpm

***Warning...this RPM may melt your system*** ;-)

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Re: [newbie] GTK2 and Sylpheed Claws WORKS!

2004-02-09 Thread John Drouhard
On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 19:23:51 -0500
JoeHill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, 5 Feb 2004 20:24:01 -0600
 John Drouhard disseminated the following:
 
  Enjoy your new gtk2 sylpheed-claws
 
 Just did a CVS update, and folder properties are configurable now.
 

Awesome, I tried looking at the source to fix it myself, but was totally
and completely clueless. I gave up.


 The address book still hangs the app, and theres a weird thing when you
 first start it, it shows all messages in your folders as unread in the
 folder pane. It eventually went away when I had to kill SC because of
 the address book thing.

I sent a bug report about the address book thing into bugzilla, but they
resolved it with a LATER. I guess that means they're not working very
hard on the GTK2 port. :-/  Still nice to know that the folder
properties is working. That means theres still SOMEBODY working on it.
:-)

John D.


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[newbie] Appgen MyBooks

2004-02-09 Thread Dave Ashmore
Does anyone have an experience or opinion on the accounting package from 
Appgen called MyBooks?
Thanks   looking forward to feedback.
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Re: [newbie] Help! Linux won't boot! --Even more info. Please help!

2004-02-09 Thread Marc Resnick

- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 6:39 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Help! Linux won't boot! --More Info!!




 - Original Message -
 From: Marc Resnick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Monday, February 9, 2004 4:12 pm
 Subject: [newbie] Help! Linux won't boot! Someone experienced in
partitions and hard drives !

  Okay here's what I did this time. Partition Magic wouldn't resize
  my Linux partition, and I needed more space. So I created a FAT32
  partition for some extra storage. Everything went fine creating
  it. I restarted, and tried to boot Linux, but I got a Linux Ext2
  mounting error. It said there was a Kernel Panic Error(which
  sounds pretty pad) and I should try passing intrd= into the
  kernel, or something like that. So then I figured I'd delete the
  partition, cause maybe linux wasn't recognizing it, then I'd
  create it through Linux. So I go into PM in Windows, and it won't
  delete it because it's an 'unrecognized format'. There were no
  errors it picked up though. So then I tried formatting it to NTFS,
  thinking it might recognize that. I formatted it, tried deleting
  it, and I got the same error. Any ideas on what I should do?
 
  Quick answer would be nice,
  Marc
 

 Okay so I tried again, and I found that the message is Try passing init=
option to kernel. So at Lilo, I press esc. I typed linux init=/dev/hda7.
Then I tried /dev/hda5. Then I tried hda5 and hda7. In case you haven't
figured it out yet, my Linux partition is hda5, my root partition is hda7(I
think). I have no boot disk, because I have no floppy drive, so no solution
there. Anyone have any ideas?




Well I tried booting with the MDK cd 1. I booted from cdrom and chose the
upgrade option. As soon as I got to partitioning, I got the error 'Could not
mount hda5', and I could do nothing about it. Please tell me I'm not going
to have to reinstall Linux. An easy solution would be much nicer.





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[newbie] Dependency hell

2004-02-09 Thread Roland Hughes
I am running Mandrake Community(Download) 9.2. I have kept it up to date using 
urpmi but now have hit a dependency brick wall. The following is what I get 
when trying to do a update:

Some package requested cannot be installed:
ImageMagick-5.5.7.15-1.2plf.i586 (due to unsatisfied libMagick5.5.7[== 
5.5.7.15-1.2plf])
k3b-0.11.1-3.5mdk.i586 (due to unsatisfied libk3bplugin.so.1)
libMagick5.5.7-5.5.7.15-1.2plf.i586 (due to unsatisfied libjasper-1.700.so.2)
libk3b1-0.11.1-3.5mdk.i586 (due to unsatisfied libFLAC++.so.2)
xine-plugins-1-0.rc3a.1plf.i586 (due to unsatisfied libdirectfb-0.9.so.18) 
(Y/n) y

I think this is why Totem Movie Player now crashes.
I tried urpmi'ing the dependencies individually but it just goes in a circle 
with the dependencies and I get no where. These same stop me from installing 
xine or mplayer.
Any help would be appreciated.
Roly

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Re: [newbie] Wherfore art thou $PATH?

2004-02-09 Thread Charlie
On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 07:37 am, James Henry Maiewski wrote:
 Hello,

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] fubarski]$ echo $PATH
 /usr//bin:/bin:/usr/bin::/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/games:/usr/lib/
jre-1.4.1_01/bin I don't particularly like the fact that I the // and the
 :: are  a part of $PATH.  I can't seem to find where these are inserted,
 however.

   I use BASH and I can't find these items in /etc/profile, ~/.bash_profile
 or ~/.bashrc.  As far as my limited knowledge is concerned, /etc/profile is
 the first file to be considered, and it adds /usr/X11R6/bin, so I guess the
 question is where is $PATH defined before /etc/profile?

   I'm using 9.1.

 With an advance of thanks,
   James Henry Maiewski
   20 Plain Road East
   South Deerfield, Massachusetts

Edit /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc as root and remove the extra of both of these 
if you wish. The :: certainly bring back to the single :

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Re: [newbie] any nice person out there with the kde 3.2 for mdk9.2 rpms

2004-02-09 Thread Dan Gordon
On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 00:04:01 -0500
Dan Gordon wrote:
  
 Thanks John, I tried this and also urpmi * but get this message each
 time.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] kde32]# urpmi ./*rpm
 Some package requested cannot be installed:
 kdebase-3.2-1mdk.i586
 kdegraphics-3.2-1mdk.i586
 kdenetwork-3.2-1mdk.i586
 kdepim-3.2-1mdk.i586
 kdeutils-3.2-1mdk.i586 (Y/n)
 
 These packages are there so I'm not sure what is wrong ?
 

Ok i found the problem, the packages look like they were corrupted
during download.  I am downloading them again now.

Regards,
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Re: [newbie] Laptop/notebook question(S)

2004-02-09 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Monday 09 February 2004 09:51 am, Alastair Scott wrote:

-To be honest, there is little difference in performance and features.
-What might swing it is the driver support which, in my experience, is
-(in descending order of quality):
-
-NVIDIA
-ATI
-Intel
-
-Alastair

Thanks for the reply. I was wondering about 3D accelerated stuff with the 
above chipsets. I should have made that clearer in the original post. I know 
that normally Nvidia is great, but the Dell models I'm looking at have the 
NForce chipset and I hear thats problematic sometimes. I was really unsure if 
3D stuff worked with ATI mobility or the Intel Xtreme setups.

Thanks! :-)

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Re: [newbie] any nice person out there with the kde 3.2 for mdk9.2 rpms

2004-02-09 Thread Greg Meyer
On Tuesday 10 February 2004 12:04 am, Dan Gordon wrote:
 On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 22:37:23 -0600

 John Drouhard wrote:
   Ok maybe a dumb question but, I have all the files in a directory by
   themselves, what is the proper way to install them?
 
  change into the directory with the rpm's, become root and:
  urpmi ./*rpm

 Thanks John, I tried this and also urpmi * but get this message each
 time.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] kde32]# urpmi ./*rpm
 Some package requested cannot be installed:
 kdebase-3.2-1mdk.i586
 kdegraphics-3.2-1mdk.i586
 kdenetwork-3.2-1mdk.i586
 kdepim-3.2-1mdk.i586
 kdeutils-3.2-1mdk.i586 (Y/n)

 These packages are there so I'm not sure what is wrong ?

The package structure was changed significantly with 3.2 so that a straight 
upgrade from 3.1.3 will not be possible.  For instance, kmail moved from 
kdenetwork to kdepim, so you cannot upgrade kdenetwork-kmail to kdepim-kmail.  
Try removing KDE 3.1.3 first and then installing 3.2.

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[newbie] Security Camera Software

2004-02-09 Thread shaz
Hi all

Can anybody recommend software for use with security cameras?

I have a 4-port card from conexant and would like to hook up 4 cameras with 
24/7 recording.

TIA

Shaz

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Re: [newbie] Laptop/notebook question(S)

2004-02-09 Thread frankieh
Ronald J. Hall wrote:

On Monday 09 February 2004 09:51 am, Alastair Scott wrote:

-To be honest, there is little difference in performance and features.
-What might swing it is the driver support which, in my experience, is
-(in descending order of quality):
-
-NVIDIA
-ATI
-Intel
-
-Alastair
Thanks for the reply. I was wondering about 3D accelerated stuff with the 
above chipsets. I should have made that clearer in the original post. I know 
that normally Nvidia is great, but the Dell models I'm looking at have the 
NForce chipset and I hear thats problematic sometimes. I was really unsure if 
3D stuff worked with ATI mobility or the Intel Xtreme setups.

Thanks! :-)


Nforce is an AMD chipset..

Last time I checked, dell did not sell any AMD systems at all...

I have a Dell 5150, and I have the nvidia driver working fine on mdk9.2 
for its 64mb Geforce FX5200.
I have sound, I have wireless, in fact I have pretty much everything bar 
the dumbass modem that has no modern driver.

rgds

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Re: [newbie] Laptop/notebook question(S)

2004-02-09 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Tuesday 10 February 2004 12:34 am, frankieh wrote:

-Nforce is an AMD chipset..
-
-Last time I checked, dell did not sell any AMD systems at all...
-
-I have a Dell 5150, and I have the nvidia driver working fine on mdk9.2
-for its 64mb Geforce FX5200.
-I have sound, I have wireless, in fact I have pretty much everything bar
-the dumbass modem that has no modern driver.
-
-rgds
-
-Franki

My bad, thanks for the info/update/reply! :-)

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Re: [newbie] ldm_validate_partition failed

2004-02-09 Thread Todd Slater
On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 10:56:20PM -0500, Guy Rouillier wrote:
 On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 19:39:05 -0500
 Todd Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I had something funky happen, probably related to a
  cd-burning/cache-clearing mishap and/or a power failure.
  
  Anyway, when I try to boot, I get endless ldm_validate_partition
  failed messages. I do a hard reset and boot into nonfb or secure and
  everything seems normal. Any ideas on how to fix the normal boot?
 
 I get this message on an old computer (dual Pentium 233MMX) with an
 external flash card reader plugged into USB.  I normally only have one
 card in it (it has two slots for different formats) and Linux just
 doesn't like the missing drive.   I've filed several bug reports and
 tried a half-dozen kernels over the last year, still no luck.  Do you
 have a flash card reader?

yes, a sandisk 2-in-1. When I log in normally I get a few of those
messages, no big deal. This rebooting, though, seems to go in a loop and
it never boots. Do you think the usb card reader is the problem? Strange
cause it worked before. Go figure.

When I'm feeling a little braver and have more sleep I'll see what
unplugging the reader and removing the line from /etc/fstab does.

Todd

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[newbie] terminal server client doesn't load boot image

2004-02-09 Thread Joe
I think I am close but not quite there yet. The client says: loading 
192.168.0.2:boot-3c509.2.4.22-10mdk.nbi.. then just sits there. Dont 
think this is a firewall issue since I turned it off with gaurddog. I 
think exports for NFS have been set up correctly by drakTermServ.

Sugestions?

TIA.
Joe.

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Re: [newbie] Whats happinging

2004-02-09 Thread Lee B.
Daniel Anderson wrote:

Hi,
I wonder if you can help me figure out how to use ipcop with a verizon
dsl connection. I'v tried twice to sub to the ipcop list, but haven't
got a confirmation. The modem is a westell b90-210015-04. I'm currently
using mnf on a mdk9.1 installation, and a dsl pppoe connection. Haven't
been able to get it to work with ipcop or smoothwall.
Thanks 
Dan

ps I hope this isn't considered hijacking.
 

I believe you can check the [ipcop-user] mail list archives without 
being a member of the list.

http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=ipcop-userr=1w=2



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Re: [newbie] Solved: No sound with onboard VIA VT8233 sound card

2004-02-09 Thread Littlefish Operator
On Sun, 8 Feb 2004 12:42:10 -0500, Carroll Grigsby wrote
 On Sunday 08 February 2004 11:53 am, Trey Sizemore wrote:
  I have a new motherboard with an onboard VIA VT8233 sound card.  I have
  installed MDK 10 beta 2.  Looks great, runs fast, but no sound.  I have
  run alsamixer to ensure volumes are up (although I didn't see a 'master'
  volume category.).  I've also looked at kmix to see if the volume levels
  are right there, and that it is not muted.  The MCC Hardware section
  shows the card, and it's using the snd-via82xx driver.
 
  Not sure what else to check (the speakers are plugged in and this is a
  dual-boot machine currently with Win2000 where I can get sound).  Hoping
  that someone else had similar onboard sound and could point me in the
  right direction.
 
  Thanks.
 
 Trey:
 I have one of those critters, and while I was finally able to get 
 some sound out of it, it was at a very low volume level. I finally 
 took the coward's way out and installed an old Creative card. If 
 you're not as lazy as I am, this old posting from Derek Jennings 
 that may be of help to you:
 
  From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [newbie] no sound with mandrake 9.1
  Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 21:47:31 +0100
  
   On Saturday 20 Sep 2003 7:31 pm, MACY, NIALLEN C wrote:
   I am getting no sound with my VT8233 [AC97 Adio Controller] sound card.  i
   have run the config tool and sometimes i get sound and others i dont.  I
   just went to the via tech website and downloaded those drivers and it 
 still
   doesnt work.  does anyone have any ideas on what i should do?
  
  I have that sound card.
  Try setting your /etc/modules.conf like this:-
  
  # ALSA portion
  alias char-major-116 snd
  alias snd-card-0 snd-via82xx
  # module options should go here
  # OSS/Free portion
  alias char-major-14 soundcore
  alias sound-slot-0 snd-0
  # card #1
  alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
  alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
  alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
  alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
  alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss
  below snd-via82xx snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-seq-oss snd-pcm-oss
  
  There is lots of good info at
  
  http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/
  
  derek
  
 -- cmg

http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc proved to be the ticket.  Afer more than
a year of poking this MSI KT3 Ultra on board sound, I now have glorious sound
at regular volumes.

Here's what I did (Some or all of these steps may be required):

Went to the www.alsa-project.org site, looked up VIA - via8233 details.

Downloaded alsa-driver-1.0.2, alsa-lib-1.0.2, alsa-utils-1.0.2

Set services 'alsa' and 'sound' to not start on boot.  Removed all sound
related stuff from /etc/modules.conf.  Then rebooted to make sure all sound
configurations (from previous attempts) were clear.

Followed the instructions in the details:

alsa-driver-1.0.2
# tar -xjf alsa-driver-1.0.2
# cd alsa-driver-1.0.2
# ./configure --with-cards=via82xx --with-sequencer=yes;make;make install

alsa-lib-1.0.2
# tar -xjf alsa-lib-1.0.2
# cd alsa-lib-1.0.2
# ./configure;make;make install

alsa-utils-1.0.2
# tar -xjf alsa-utils-1.0.2
# cd alsa-utils-1.0.2
# ./configure;make;make install

Then insert new modules:
# modprobe snd-via82xx;modprobe snd-pcm-oss;modprobe snd-mixer-oss;modprobe
snd-seq-oss

Finally run alsamixer to set volume levels, in particular 'Master', 'Master M'
and 'PCM'.  And add options to /etc/modules.conf as described above:

# ALSA portion
alias char-major-116 snd
alias snd-card-0 snd-via82xx
# module options should go here
# OSS/Free portion
alias char-major-14 soundcore
alias sound-slot-0 snd-0
# card #1
alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss

Create file /etc/asound.conf (which never existed before) with:

pcm.snd-via8233 {
   type hw
   card 0
}
ctl.snd-via8233 {
   type hw
   card 0
}

Finally, selected service 'alsasound' to start on boot (not 'alsa' or
'sound').  'alsasound' was created by the alsa-utils that was downloaded.

When I rebooted the computer, sound was coming through, but kept doing a crazy
looping sample effect.  Reading through the alsa doc details a bit further I
discovered note to set acpi=no.  So I went into the boot config, set acpi=no
and rebooted again.  Now sound is clear as a bell, distortion free and at full
volume.  I can't say if it's stereo, and I can't say if the I've got 6 speaker
surround sound, but I've got decent sound and that's more than I've been able
to say about this board for a very long time.

I'm not sure what the trick is.  You may not have to go through the download
and compile process.  In the past I've managed to get low volume sound (mixers
didn't do anything), and loopy sample sound.  I suspect that the default
Mandrake sound setup may have worked properly if (A) I had the
/etc/asound.conf file (B) the