[newbie] postfix won't work

2004-05-25 Thread hugenots
 I've tryed to install postfix+courier-imap+courier_pop+mysql

 everuthig starts normaly, bt I can't send any mail to this server.
 I get this error message:

May 25 08:51:59 server postfix/smtpd[6032]: connect from unknown[10.0.0.3]
May 25 08:51:59 server postfix/smtpd[6032]: warning: connect to mysql server 
localhost: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket 
'/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' (2)
May 25 08:51:59 server postfix/smtpd[6032]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from
unknown[10.0.0.3]: 451 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Temporary lookup failure;
from=[EMAIL PROTECTED] to=hug\
[EMAIL PROTECTED] proto=ESMTP helo=localhost
May 25 08:52:00 server postfix/cleanup[6034]: 597B3B907:
message-id=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
May 25 08:52:00 server postfix/qmgr[1738]: 597B3B907:
from=[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=815, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
May 25 08:52:00 server postfix/smtpd[6032]: disconnect from unknown[10.0.0.3]
May 25 08:52:00 server postfix/virtual[6035]: 597B3B907:
to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], orig_to=postmaster, relay=virtual, delay=0, status=sent 
(delivered to maildir)
May 25 08:52:00 server postfix/qmgr[1738]: 597B3B907: removed

where is the problem?
which config files should I post that you can make any conclusion?


my /etc/postfix/main.cf file:


# These are changed by postfix install script
queue_directory = /var/spool/postfix
command_directory = /usr/sbin
daemon_directory = /usr/lib/postfix
mail_owner = postfix
sendmail_path = /usr/sbin/sendmail.postfix
newaliases_path = /usr/bin/newaliases.postfix
mailq_path = /usr/bin/mailq.postfix
setgid_group = postdrop
manpage_directory = /usr/share/man
sample_directory = /usr/share/doc/postfix-2.1.0/samples
readme_directory = /usr/share/doc/postfix-2.1.0/README_FILES





# User configurable parameters
#unknown_local_recipient_reject_code = 450
delay_warning_time = 4



smtpd_banner = $myhostname ESMTP $mail_name ($mail_version) (Mandrake Linux)
inet_interfaces = all

mynetworks = 10.0.0.0/28, 127.0.0.0/8


#added by hugo
alias_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/aliases
alias_database = hash:/etc/postfix/aliases
mail_spool_directory = /var/spool/mail
mailbox_command = /usr/bin/procmail -Y -a $DOMAIN
debug_peer_level = 2
debuger_command = 
PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin
xxgdb $daemon_directory/$process_name $process_id  sleep 5
#smtpd_recipient_restrictions = permit_mynetworks
#   warn_if_reject reject_unknown_hostname
smtpd_sender_restrictions = permit_mynetworks
   warn_if_reject reject_unknown_hostname
smtpd_helo_restrictions = permit_mynetworks
   warn_if_reject reject_unknown_hostname

myhostname = bcom.lv
#relayhost = smtp.ml.lv

local_recipient_maps = 
mydestination = 
virtual_transport = virtual
virtual_mailbox_base = /tmp/mail_spool
virtual_mailbox_maps = mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql_mailbox.cf
virtual_uid_maps = mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql_uid.cf
virtual_gid_maps = mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql_gid.cf
virtual_mailbox_domains = localhost $myhostname


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Re: [newbie] Login Manager Shutdown Settings

2004-05-25 Thread Video 4Linux
Correct. I have sucurity level higher (though that that was wise to do as a 
newbie). Is it recommended to set it to high?

Bas

From: Kaj Haulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Login Manager Shutdown Settings
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 22:14:41 +0200
On Monday 24 May 2004 21:53, Video 4Linux wrote:
 Hello,

 I´m taking my first steps in mandrake 10 and have the following
 problem:

 I want to make it possible for every user to reboot and halt the
 system. What I did is in the
 SystemConfigurationKDESystemLogin Manager change Allow
 Shutdown from nobody to everybody. This works fine because when I
 logout I can halt or reboot the system. However when I halt the
 system and turn it back on the option is back to nobody and I
 can´t shutdown the system anymore (also not as root).

 Anybody who had the same problems and know the solution to this?

 Bas
My guess is, that you have set your security level to higher or
even paranoid. If so, try to set it to high.
For an explanation, type (in a console) : man msec
HTH
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Re: [newbie] Setting Up Intellimouse Optical on Mandrake 10

2004-05-25 Thread Frank
inside a command console issue:
$xev
Place your cursor inside the square that appears and hold your mouse 
still with the other hand to ensure no activity. The print out within 
the console will stop ticking over when all is ready.

Now operate one of the 'no go' buttons.
Did that generate a readout? If so then keep looking for ways to get it 
working 'cause your system sees them.

Try google for 'keymapping' is just yet another suggestion.
Keep us informed as to your successes.
Regards
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Registered Linux User # 324213 


Stephen Kuhn wrote:
On Tue, 2004-05-25 at 06:34, Brian Long wrote:
 

Hello, my name is Brian and I am a Linux newbie.  ;-)
I just installed Mandrake 10 Official via an FTP install on Saturday,
which took approximately 4.5 hours to complete.  My system is a dual
boot with XP Professional.
I have an intellimouse optical mouse connected via ps/2 (via kvm
switch), and am confused as to how to configure it so the scroll wheel
and two side buttons work correctly.  I googled and found several
different ways to go about setting it up, all of them different and
none 100% guaranteed.
Can somebody point me in the right direction on how to configure it? 
It works perfectly under windows (wheel scrolls, two side buttons go
back and forward when browsing).

Thanks!!!
Brian
   

I would tend to reckon that a Microsoft Intellimouse is going to work
with Microsoft Windows(whatever fsck'ed up version). It's not obvious?
Meanwhile, there are many many hacks to get all the buttons working -
none of them easy, none of them for the feint of heart.
Don't expect to get it working the same way as in Windows, mate.
Be happy that you can get the left and right and scroll bits working.
(Run /usr/sbin/mousedrake as the root user)
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RE: [newbie] Ximian Connector for Mdk10

2004-05-25 Thread Tobias Cloete
I wan't talking about his family, I was talking about the site layout
and graphix.

Oja, and I cannot use Ximian's Redcarpet on mdk10. its not supported as
far as I know. The installed moans with me about my version of mdk.

Regards,
Tobias

-Original Message-
From: Stephen Kuhn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 24 May 2004 09:01 PM
To: Mandrake Newbie
Subject: RE: [newbie] Ximian Connector for Mdk10

On Mon, 2004-05-24 at 22:07, Tobias Cloete wrote:
 Very nice website Derek!!!

Where the heck you get the photogallery bit from Derek?
(nice looking family - certainly was a BIG surprise)
(joking)

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Re: [newbie] Community to Official?

2004-05-25 Thread robin
Thujan wrote:
Hi,
I have red lot about people wanting to update
their mdk10 Community to mdk10 Official?
Is there any valid reason to do that?
Does one get newer software with the Official than
with the Community?
I have been very happy with the 10.0 Community
so far everything works with my laptop even software
suspend.
Now I'm wondering do I really have some reason that
I do not know why I should update to Official sources?
Why to change Official?
If it ain't broken, don't fix it. As far as I can tell, there are no 
major upgrades in Official, just bugfixes. I'd recommend installing 
security-related updates, though.

Sir Robin
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that you aren't a nice person.
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Re: [newbie] Login Manager Shutdown Settings

2004-05-25 Thread Derek Jennings
On Tuesday 25 May 2004 07:57, Video 4Linux wrote:
 Correct. I have sucurity level higher (though that that was wise to do as a
 newbie). Is it recommended to set it to high?

No For a desktop machine it is recommended to set it to standard
Hence the name 'standard'.
Standard security in Linux is way more secure than anything you have 
experienced with Windows.

http://doc.mandrakelinux.com/MandrakeLinux/92/en/Starter.html/draksec.html


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[newbie] OT- Gallery was Ximian Connector for Mdk10

2004-05-25 Thread Derek Jennings
On Tuesday 25 May 2004 09:56, Tobias Cloete wrote:
 I wan't talking about his family, I was talking about the site layout
 and graphix.

 Oja, and I cannot use Ximian's Redcarpet on mdk10. its not supported as
 far as I know. The installed moans with me about my version of mdk.

 Regards,
 Tobias

 -Original Message-
 From: Stephen Kuhn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 24 May 2004 09:01 PM
 To: Mandrake Newbie
 Subject: RE: [newbie] Ximian Connector for Mdk10

 On Mon, 2004-05-24 at 22:07, Tobias Cloete wrote:
  Very nice website Derek!!!

 Where the heck you get the photogallery bit from Derek?
 (nice looking family - certainly was a BIG surprise)
 (joking)

 stephen kuhn - owner

The photo album is from Gallery http://sourceforge.net/projects/gallery/
Their home page is down to day though. It needs php, but does not depend on 
any database. I'm very pleased with it.

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RE: [newbie] Sylpheed messages not readable in MS Outlook?

2004-05-25 Thread Brian Long
FWIW -- I'm still going back and forth between Mandrake and XP myself, and
I'm using Outlook 2003.  I've not had any problem like this reading any of
the messages from this list, although each message has a message.footer
attachment containing the following:

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I just thought it might be good to clarify that your'e talking about Outlook
Express, not Outlook.

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Asa Rossoff
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 10:18 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] Sylpheed messages not readable in MS Outlook?

I often read this list in Outlook Express, since I still spend more time in
Windows (haven't gotten Linux to work well with my video card, so until I
upgrade...), and noticed that some messages appear blank, but have an
attachment that outlook has named ATT00###.py (where ### is a number).

.
.
.

Anyway, I thought this might be of interest, since Outlook is such a popular
mailer, and it's probably desirable to have messages readable there.






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Re: [newbie] STUCK--Trying to copy old Hard Drive to new Hard Drive. Please Help

2004-05-25 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Mon, 2004-05-24 at 19:33, Thomas Wilkowski wrote:

  Thanks for the reply. That is some terrific
 information. Another person also hipped me to the
 'tar' method of file transfer, although the flags he
 suggested were different. Thus, I believe I'll give
 'tar' a shot first and if that fails onto Cpio.
 Really, thank you so much for the suggestions. I'll
 let you know how it turns out.
 
 tsw

Remember, if you go with the tar option, you need to do the
--one-file-system option with tar in order to keep you local to the
partition you are on; otherwise, you cannot delineate between partitions
and stuff that would normally be on the /usr filesystem/partition (for
example) could end up being in your root partition.

This all is a nonsequitur if you've done everything as a single
partition.  Then you can omit the --one-file-system option.

To make use of tar's ability to select filesystems individually, all you
have to do is to start out at the spot where the filesystem is mounted. 
For instance, on the usr partition, you just change to /usr and then use
tar with --one-file-system.

Or with var on it's own partition, you would switch to /var and then
execute the tar command.  After that anything that's tarred over to the
new partition won't be including stuff mounted *within* /var.  And so
on.

HTH

LX

P.S.  I still recommend the find-cpio combo. ;)



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[newbie] Info Info

2004-05-25 Thread The Other
Hello All,
Anybody else been struggling working through the Info and Man pages, 
trying to figure out how to navigate them?

I'm still not sure how to browse the Man pages with anything other 
than up and down, but last night I had the insight to try something 
new with the Info pages.

info info
This got me a tutorial/lesson on how to use Tab, Space Bar, 
Backspace, and Delete keys.  I haven't gotten through the lesson yet 
and still don't know how to return to the exact place you were 
before you Tab-Carriage Return'd into a new thread (you can always 
Delete key and Space key back to where you were), but I finally feel 
like I'm making progress with the Linux command documentation.

For What It's Worth
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[newbie] Dell D600 Docking Station?

2004-05-25 Thread Edgars Smits
Just got a new Dell D600 (company issued), installed Mandrake10 CE. 
Everything works OK now - did have issues with sound and network, the 
sound card is a SigmaTel one that is identified by Linux as an Intel 
8280IDB AC'97 , other distros install the latest sound drivers for it 
(snd_intel8x0) works fine, Mandrake's same driver causes howling from 
the machine, specifying the i810_audio driver instead works fine.

Also had issues with MDK and the Broadcom GigaBit card, other distros 
(incl. MDK 9.2) see the card and work with it fine, MDK 10CE sees the 
card and installs the drivers for it, but on bootup it says eth0 failed 
and w2hen you try to change the cards settings etc the system freezes. 
Even weirder, on a clean install of the OS it warns that the card has 
been previously configured for use - if you accept the existing settings 
you end up with the dead card and system freeze previously mentioned, 
but if you tell it to redo the card during install it forces a crashed 
installation, however when booting (thankfully the crash is after the 
bootloader is installed) eth0 still fails, however on actually using it 
the network is fine. Good thing I'm using DHCP, if I try to set it for 
specific IP or change any parameters I freeze again

Anyway - the real reason for the email - when attaching an exterior 
monitor via the port replicator - as soon as I start X the external 
monitor dies. I know about the XF86Config-4 line:

Option Display BIOS
this isn't my first Dell running Linux, however this doesn't seem to do 
much good with this new model, when that didn't work I took it out 
thinking that maybe the new Dells were different, still no joy.

Has anyone else run into this?
specs:
Dell Latitude D600
512 MB RAM
BIOS A09
ATI Radeon 9000 32 MB RAM
MDK sees it as ATI Radeon fglrx
Any ideas?
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Re: [newbie] Help with on-board AC97 Audio (mdk10)

2004-05-25 Thread Edgars Smits
Don't know if this is of any use to you, but I had troubles with the 
SigmaTe;l audio card that uses the same chip. I just sent this in to the 
list:

Just got a new Dell D600 (company issued), installed Mandrake10 CE. 
Everything works OK now - did have issues with sound and network, the 
sound card is a SigmaTel one that is identified by Linux as an Intel 
8280IDB AC'97 , other distros install the latest sound drivers for it 
(snd_intel8x0) works fine, Mandrake's same driver causes howling from 
the machine, specifying the i810_audio driver instead works fine.

Dexter N Muir wrote:
Re-posting... sorry I hijacked a thread.
   I have an hp pavilion 713a machine, with Microstar MS-6577
Motherboard.  This has an Avance AC97 audio chip on board, which works
fine under the pre-loaded XP.  I'm trying to migrate it to Mandrake
(10.0 Community), and running into the odd obstacle or two...
 
   Firstly, the drivers themselves.  Configure your computer says the
hardware itself is working fine (there are no error messages).  I've
tried using the alternate drivers as listed here, but with no better
success than the default (snd_intel 8x0).  The diagnostic procedures
tell me to run a series of commands, and I've done these, but the
results are cryptic:


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Re: [newbie] MP3 Burning

2004-05-25 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Aron Smith wrote:
On Monday 24 May 2004 10:12 am, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
David E. Fox wrote:
On Sat, 22 May 2004 19:14:28 -0500
Mikkel L. Ellertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
format.  I have found a Windows program that will create them, but I
would like to know how to make them using Linux software.
Which portable? I think you may find that mp3 cd format is just an
iso9660 with a bunch of mp3 files stored. See my other post. If by any
chance you've got a Sony player, I've been happily making and playing
mp3 disks for it for nearly a year.

Audiophase Model CDM-357
Are your TOC files included?
I am not sure what you mean by TOC files.  Here is the directory listing 
of a CD that works.  I can see no difference between this and one that 
it doesn't like.

/mnt/cdrom/Best of Nature Quest:
./
../
Bach's Minuet in G Major.mp3*
Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata.mp3*
Eine Kleine Nachtmusik.mp3*
First Touch.mp3*
Journeys of Life.mp3*
LoonSong.mp3*
Reflection.mp3*
Spring Rain.mp3*
Tchaikovsky's Piano Concerto in B Flat Minor.mp3*
Thunder Magic.mp3*
WolfSong.mp3*
/mnt/cdrom/Natures Relaxing Music:
./
../
Ancient Rain Forest.mp3*
Canyon Winds.mp3*
Emerald Forest.mp3*
Hidden Stream.mp3*
Lake of the Woods.mp3*
Moon Shadows.mp3*
Peggies Cove.mp3*
Sound Scapes.mp3*
Sound Scapes Reprise.mp3*
Spring Morning.mp3*
Summer Storm.mp3*
/mnt/cdrom/Wind Dreamer:
./
../
Another Dreamy Day.mp3*
As Clouds Drift By.mp3*
At Silver Lake.mp3*
Lakeshore Memories.mp3*
Lost Creek.mp3*
Night Whispers.mp3*
Oasis.mp3*
On a Far Away Hill.mp3*
Seabreeze.mp3*
Songbird Spirits.mp3*
Tomorrow.mp3*
Wind Dreamer.mp3*
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Re: [newbie] Setting Up Intellimouse Optical on Mandrake 10

2004-05-25 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Brian Long wrote:
The problem is not left and right click, it's the extra buttons that
simply do not work.  Unfortunately it appears it's this way with all
distributions -- google for intellimouse and linux and you'll see
what I mean.  My scroll works just fine as it is right now, but I'd
really like to have my back and forward buttons working too.
You have to configure buttons 4 and 5 if I remember correctly.  I don't
thing the GUI tools that come with Mandrake configure them, but I could
be wrong.  X does support more then the 3 buttons and scroll wheel.
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Re: [newbie] Info Info

2004-05-25 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
The Other wrote:
Hello All,
Anybody else been struggling working through the Info and Man pages, 
trying to figure out how to navigate them?

I'm still not sure how to browse the Man pages with anything other than 
up and down, but last night I had the insight to try something new with 
the Info pages.

info info
This got me a tutorial/lesson on how to use Tab, Space Bar, Backspace, 
and Delete keys.  I haven't gotten through the lesson yet and still 
don't know how to return to the exact place you were before you 
Tab-Carriage Return'd into a new thread (you can always Delete key and 
Space key back to where you were), but I finally feel like I'm making 
progress with the Linux command documentation.

For What It's Worth
The Other
If you are trying to navigate man pages from the command line, or in an 
Xterm, try man less.  The man command uses less as the default pager 
on most Linux distributions.  You can change it to something else by 
setting PAGER.  man man will give you more information about the man 
command.  There are also a couple of programs for reading man and info 
pages under X.  (Not sure what comes with Mandrake - I normaly use 
command line tools for that.)

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Re: [newbie] Setting Up Intellimouse Optical on Mandrake 10

2004-05-25 Thread Sebastien Routier
These two pages helped me:
http://koala.ilog.fr/colas/mouse-wheel-scroll/
and
http://www.deadman.org/X/xbuttons.html
Good luck.

Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
Brian Long wrote:
The problem is not left and right click, it's the extra buttons that
simply do not work.  Unfortunately it appears it's this way with all
distributions -- google for intellimouse and linux and you'll see
what I mean.  My scroll works just fine as it is right now, but I'd
really like to have my back and forward buttons working too.
You have to configure buttons 4 and 5 if I remember correctly.  I don't
thing the GUI tools that come with Mandrake configure them, but I could
be wrong.  X does support more then the 3 buttons and scroll wheel.
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Re: [newbie] Community to Official?

2004-05-25 Thread JRH
On Tuesday 25 May 2004 11:37, robin wrote:
 If it ain't broken, don't fix it. As far as I can tell, there are no
 major upgrades in Official, just bugfixes. I'd recommend installing
 security-related updates, though

If you have the Alcatel/Thomson Speedtouch USB ADSL modem, then i'd stick with 
10CE..

I upgraded to 10OE, and no way in the world could I get it to work... it 
works fine under 9.2 and 10CE.. but not OE for some reason!

Still trying to find a wqay round it!

JRH


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[newbie] VMWare MDK 10CE display problem

2004-05-25 Thread Edgars Smits
Running VMWare 4.5 and MDK10CE (kernel 2.6), can't run in XP in full 
screen mode. When I try to go full screen I get:

UNable to enumerate any DGA modes.
XFree86 direct graphics (DGA extension) initialization failed
This is running on a Dell D600 laptop with 32MB ATI Radeon 9000 card @ 
1024x768, 24 bit colour. I have it running w/o problems on my old 
Latitude with VMWare 4.5 and MDK10 CE. Both laptops are up to date as 
reported by RPMDrake.

I've tried changing my Display managers and restarting the DM service, 
no difference.

Any ideas?
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Re: [newbie] Text Mode Framebuffer

2004-05-25 Thread JoeHill
On Mon, 24 May 2004 17:44:23 -0700
Asa Rossoff disseminated the following:

 I just did a search and saw that there were some solutions to this issue
 posted on the mandrake-expert list, although Joe wasn't able to get a
 workable setup.
 
 For the record:
 1) vga=ASK in lilo.conf does not always list every available mode.  e.g.
 vga=788 (800x600x16) was available on Joe's system, although it wasn't
 listed.
 
 2) There are some good how-to guides about setting up framebuffer, including
 idiosyncracies with various cards and configurations:
 http://www.digitalhermit.com/linux/hiresconsole.html and
 http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Framebuffer-HOWTO-5.html
 
 3) The first of those how-tos also gives instructions for setting up
 SVGATextMode instead of using the kernel framebuffer driver.
 
 4) Both how-tos talk about the need to rebuild the kernel to support various
 video cards that the default vesafb kernel driver doesn't support.
 
 
 This is what I understood from those sources, anyway.  I'm a newbie, though
 :-)   It looks like there is specific support for my video card, so
 hopefully I'll get that going.

Wow. Thanks very much. I don't know if I'm up for a kernel rebuild, but you're
the second person to recommend the SVGATextMode, so I'll give that a shot.

Cheers!

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Re: [newbie] Login Manager Shutdown Settings

2004-05-25 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Tuesday 25 May 2004 08:57, Video 4Linux wrote:
 Correct. I have sucurity level higher (though that that was wise
 to do as a newbie). Is it recommended to set it to high?

 Bas

 From: Kaj Haulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] Login Manager Shutdown Settings
 Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 22:14:41 +0200
 
 On Monday 24 May 2004 21:53, Video 4Linux wrote:
   Hello,
  
   I´m taking my first steps in mandrake 10 and have the
   following problem:
  
   I want to make it possible for every user to reboot and halt
   the system. What I did is in the
   SystemConfigurationKDESystemLogin Manager change Allow
   Shutdown from nobody to everybody. This works fine because
   when I logout I can halt or reboot the system. However when I
   halt the system and turn it back on the option is back to
   nobody and I can´t shutdown the system anymore (also not as
   root).
  
   Anybody who had the same problems and know the solution to
   this?
  
   Bas
 
 My guess is, that you have set your security level to higher
  or even paranoid. If so, try to set it to high.
 
 For an explanation, type (in a console) : man msec
 
 HTH
 
 Kaj Haulrich.

Well, as Derek says, standard security on linux is way better than 
on Windows. But the reason I advised you to set it to high is as 
follows :

You have multiple users on your box, and you wanted everybody to be 
able to shutdown. You can achieve that in standard of course, but 
then all users have access to each others files, i.e. they can 
change directory into /home/user1, /home/user2 etc., etc..

If you don't want that, you can fiddle around with permissions, 
sharing and such, but it is easier just to set security to high. 
In that mode, try to peep into another users stuff : you can't.

So far, I've noticed no drawbacks in high, the box is fully 
functional for all my daily purposes. But maybe Derek can correct 
me here ?

Kaj Haulrich.

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[newbie] How make a server ftp

2004-05-25 Thread Donato
Can anyone tell me how to install a server ftp in mandrake 9.2?

Thanks
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Re: [newbie] Login Manager Shutdown Settings

2004-05-25 Thread Video 4Linux
Setting my system security level to high indeed solved my shutdown issue. 
Thanx Kaj and Derek for this. If I run into problems later I may consider to 
set security level to normal.

Bas
From: Kaj Haulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Login Manager Shutdown Settings
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 19:43:26 +0200
On Tuesday 25 May 2004 08:57, Video 4Linux wrote:
 Correct. I have sucurity level higher (though that that was wise
 to do as a newbie). Is it recommended to set it to high?

 Bas

 From: Kaj Haulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] Login Manager Shutdown Settings
 Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 22:14:41 +0200
 
 On Monday 24 May 2004 21:53, Video 4Linux wrote:
   Hello,
  
   I´m taking my first steps in mandrake 10 and have the
   following problem:
  
   I want to make it possible for every user to reboot and halt
   the system. What I did is in the
   SystemConfigurationKDESystemLogin Manager change Allow
   Shutdown from nobody to everybody. This works fine because
   when I logout I can halt or reboot the system. However when I
   halt the system and turn it back on the option is back to
   nobody and I can´t shutdown the system anymore (also not as
   root).
  
   Anybody who had the same problems and know the solution to
   this?
  
   Bas
 
 My guess is, that you have set your security level to higher
  or even paranoid. If so, try to set it to high.
 
 For an explanation, type (in a console) : man msec
 
 HTH
 
 Kaj Haulrich.
Well, as Derek says, standard security on linux is way better than
on Windows. But the reason I advised you to set it to high is as
follows :
You have multiple users on your box, and you wanted everybody to be
able to shutdown. You can achieve that in standard of course, but
then all users have access to each others files, i.e. they can
change directory into /home/user1, /home/user2 etc., etc..
If you don't want that, you can fiddle around with permissions,
sharing and such, but it is easier just to set security to high.
In that mode, try to peep into another users stuff : you can't.
So far, I've noticed no drawbacks in high, the box is fully
functional for all my daily purposes. But maybe Derek can correct
me here ?
Kaj Haulrich.
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Re: [newbie] Info Info

2004-05-25 Thread Josenildo Marques
On Tue, 2004-05-25 at 12:05, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
 The Other wrote:
  Hello All,
  
  Anybody else been struggling working through the Info and Man pages, 
  trying to figure out how to navigate them?
  
  I'm still not sure how to browse the Man pages with anything other than 
  up and down, but last night I had the insight to try something new with 
  the Info pages.
  
  info info
  
  This got me a tutorial/lesson on how to use Tab, Space Bar, Backspace, 
  and Delete keys.  I haven't gotten through the lesson yet and still 
  don't know how to return to the exact place you were before you 
  Tab-Carriage Return'd into a new thread (you can always Delete key and 
  Space key back to where you were), but I finally feel like I'm making 
  progress with the Linux command documentation.
  
  For What It's Worth
  The Other
  
 If you are trying to navigate man pages from the command line, or in an 
 Xterm, try man less.  The man command uses less as the default pager 
 on most Linux distributions.  You can change it to something else by 
 setting PAGER.  man man will give you more information about the man 
 command.  There are also a couple of programs for reading man and info 
 pages under X.  (Not sure what comes with Mandrake - I normaly use 
 command line tools for that.)
 
 Mikkel

you can use Konqueror or Galeon to read man pages. The formatting is
nice and you can use Ctrl+F in order to find specific info.

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Re: [newbie] Help with on-board AC97 Audio (mdk10)

2004-05-25 Thread Frans Ketelaars
On Monday 24 May 2004 01:27, Dexter N Muir wrote:

snip

To continue the saga:

I tried alsamixer, but with no more success in terms of sound
 output, and though it explained the red and green buttons in Kmix it
 raised a few points in itself.

Kmix (bottom right corner) shows I am controlling Intel
 82801DB-ICH4. I presume this is correct for the AC'97 as embedded on
 the mobo.  The MCC (under Hardware/Hardware) says the Soundcard is
 ICH4 845G/GL Chipset AC'97 Audio Controller, and Module is
 snd-intel8x0.
The green buttons are muted when dim, and un-muted when bright,
 i.e enabled.
The red buttons are capture selected when bright.

alsamixer says Card: Intel 82801DB-ICH4, and Chip: Realtek ALC202
 rev 0.  The onboard LAN is a Realtek RTL8139 - is this part of the
 same chip?  I'm having troubles with that too...

No, they are just both Realtek chips.

man alsamixer says Spacebar toggles Capture mode on a valid input,
 adding or removing it from the capture sources.  Its behaviour belies
 this: it selects that channel for capture, removing all other inputs
 from capture sources.  Having found this, I noted that Kmix seems to
 allow multiple sources fro capture, though the red buttons will not
 clear immediately after being selected: another source has to be
 toggled in between. Strange...

Just to be sure, 'capture' means 'recording' in ALSA speak ;-)

With a CD in the drive, and the CD player indicating that it is
 there and playing a track, and with the mixer (either alsamixer or
 Kmix) showing CD selected and volume high (80%+), there is still no
 sound out.

Maybe a case of a missing analog audio cable, see 
http://www.jennings.homelinux.net/audio_cd.html .

And 'master' (and 'pcm' for digital audio sources) should also be 
unmuted and a have a reasonable volume level.

 #chkconfig --list sound
 sound0:off  1:off  2:on  3:on  4:on  5:on  6:off
 #chkconfig --list alsa
 alsa 0:off  1:off  2:on  3:on  4:on  5:on  6:off
 #runlevel
 N 5

OK, so alsa and sound are started in runlevel 5: graphical environment 
plus network.

 Any takers? :-)

 Hopefully...
 Dex

What happens when you try 'aplay some_wave_file' ?

HTH,

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Re: [newbie] STUCK--Trying to copy old Hard Drive to new Hard Drive. Please Help

2004-05-25 Thread et
On Tuesday 25 May 2004 12:33 am, Thomas Wilkowski wrote:
   diskdrake will setup and offer to copy
   over the files from whatever  the same
   name partition as you had before, as
   long as it is one of the partitions you
   are allowed to put on a different drive from

 This is very interesting to me. I did not know that
 diskdrak wil copy partitions. What exactly do you mean
 by one of the partitions you are allowed to put on a
 different drive?
cretian partitions MUST be on the same drive as '/'.
Diskdrake will offer to copy (and I believe it uses 'cp') files if you are 
creating a new partiton to replace the old. so when I put in a new drive, adn 
I want to copy all of /var, after it creates /var it will offer to copy over 
what is in the old /var, or if I make a /var/www, it will offer to just copy 
over /var/www, after it's done, you can not tell /var/www is not on the same 
drive as /var, unless you go looking someplace other than the directory tree.  




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  hardware again, then click on
  the proper disk,and run config tool, which would
  start diskdrake (of course
  you could start diskdrake, just like I started mcc)
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[newbie] Auto setup script for newbies

2004-05-25 Thread Derek Jennings
I saw this in Mandrake Club forum today
http://www.mandrakeclub.com/modules.php?op=modloadname=Splatt_Forumfile=viewtopictopic=24377forum=11

It is a script to automatically configure a Mandrake 10.0 installation  and 
does the following functions.

Removes all RPM sources 
Sets RPM sources for Community or Official 
Installs libfreetype with bytecode interpreter enabled (plf) (it is not 
patented in Slovenia) 
Installs mscorefonts from a legal source 
Installs a nice KDE theme called MPN 
Installs Flash plugin 
Preloads OpenOffice.org when KDE starts 
Installs libraries for DVD 
Installs Real player alpha version 
Updates RPM sources 
Installs updates 
Installs kernel with latest security updates 
Installs latest versions of installed packages

It could be useful if someone has just done a new installation.

Looking at the script it tests to find the fastest update mirror, so hopefully 
it will pick a better mirror than most newbies do by guesswork.


I have not tried it myself as all my machines are fully configured.

If anyone tries it plz let the author know if it worked.

BTW: To save typing that long command, highlight text in your browser to copy, 
press mouse wheel to paste.


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Re: [newbie] dev file question

2004-05-25 Thread Grant

--- Mikkel L. Ellertson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Grant wrote:
 
 
 To get it back, try:
 
 rm /dev/tts/LTO
 rm /dev/modem
 modprobe lt_serial
 ln -s /dev/modem /dev/tts/LT0
 
  Thanks a lot for getting back to me.  I have
 removed
  those symlinks and restarted Linux and I still
 have no
  LT0 file in my /dev/tts directory.  The only file
 in
  that directory is a weird one called 0.
  
   I just need that LT0 file back so I can dial up
  with this sucker.  When I typed in modprobe
  lt_serial it just went to the next prompt.  What
  should be happening?
  
  - Grant
  
 It should be loading the modules for the winmodem,
 and creating
 /dev/tty/LT0
 (Unless that is not the driver for your modem.  I
 thought I remembered 
 that you had a Lucent chipset...)
 
 You can run lsmod and see if lt_serial is already
 loaded.
 
 Mikkel

The driver was /dev/tts/LT0 until the symlinks got
messed up.  I do have a Lucent chipset.

I ran lsmod and didn't see anything called lt_serial
or anything else that looked like a modem.  I've got
to get this file back!  Any ideas?

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Re: [newbie] dev file question

2004-05-25 Thread Grant

--- Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 --- Mikkel L. Ellertson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  Grant wrote:
  
  
  To get it back, try:
  
  rm /dev/tts/LTO
  rm /dev/modem
  modprobe lt_serial
  ln -s /dev/modem /dev/tts/LT0
  
   Thanks a lot for getting back to me.  I have
  removed
   those symlinks and restarted Linux and I still
  have no
   LT0 file in my /dev/tts directory.  The only
 file
  in
   that directory is a weird one called 0.
   
I just need that LT0 file back so I can dial
 up
   with this sucker.  When I typed in modprobe
   lt_serial it just went to the next prompt. 
 What
   should be happening?
   
   - Grant
   
  It should be loading the modules for the winmodem,
  and creating
  /dev/tty/LT0
  (Unless that is not the driver for your modem.  I
  thought I remembered 
  that you had a Lucent chipset...)
  
  You can run lsmod and see if lt_serial is already
  loaded.
  
  Mikkel
 
 The driver was /dev/tts/LT0 until the symlinks got
 messed up.  I do have a Lucent chipset.
 
 I ran lsmod and didn't see anything called lt_serial
 or anything else that looked like a modem.  I've got
 to get this file back!  Any ideas?
 
 - Grant

Ok, I ran modprobe lt_serial, got a tainted kernel
warning message, ran lsmod, and then lt_serial and
lt_modem showed up in there.  The /dev/tts/LT0 file
showed up too!  I'll be able to test this tonight at
home, but all looks to be well!  Thanks for the help
Mikkel!

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Re: [newbie] How make a server ftp

2004-05-25 Thread David A. Ferguson
From: Donato [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Can anyone tell me how to install a server ftp in mandrake 9.2?

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RE: [newbie] Help with on-board AC97 Audio (mdk10) - Thanks!

2004-05-25 Thread Dexter N Muir
Hi all

   Got it!

(as suggested by Frans Ketelaars):

 Maybe a case of a missing analog audio cable, see
 http://www.jennings.homelinux.net/audio_cd.html .
 

XP was running via the digital stream on the PCI bus - Mdk needs the
analog.  Just for interest, is there a means of selecting which of these
to use (like a config analog=yes|no) in the audio options?

Thanks to all who responded - I've now got a Mandrake system I can use!
:-)

Cheers all
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Re: [newbie] Eric's Ultimate Solitaire

2004-05-25 Thread David B. Williams
On Monday 24 May 2004 11:29 pm, Charles A Edwards wrote:
 On Mon, 24 May 2004 22:57:10 -0400

 David B. Williams wrote:
  The software producer is Loki and I think that they are out of
  business. Oh, well. I didn't pay that much for it anyway.

 Try pysol, it's basicly the same as Ultimate and is in Main, cardsets and
 music in contrib,

 I play it all the time.



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Works for me.
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Re: [newbie] Info Info

2004-05-25 Thread Chris
On Tuesday 25 May 2004 10:05 am, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:

  Anybody else been struggling working through the Info and Man pages,
  trying to figure out how to navigate them?
 
  I'm still not sure how to browse the Man pages with anything other than
  up and down, but last night I had the insight to try something new with
  the Info pages.

 If you are trying to navigate man pages from the command line, or in an
 Xterm, try man less.  The man command uses less as the default pager
 on most Linux distributions.  You can change it to something else by
 setting PAGER.  man man will give you more information about the man
 command.  There are also a couple of programs for reading man and info
 pages under X.  (Not sure what comes with Mandrake - I normaly use
 command line tools for that.)

 Mikkel

If you want to save the man pages for printing, for instance as or even as 
pdf files try this:

man -t lilo  lilo.ps

which will make a nicely formated printable document, you may get a 
complaint sometimes, but its not a problem.  To convert it to a pdf file 
just:

ps2pdf lilo.ps (you have to have ps2pdf installed)

Just thought I'd throw this out for consideration, something I learned on 
the list.

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[newbie] apes and flacs, I'm a dummy

2004-05-25 Thread Tom Brinkman

OK, I can deal with flacs.  I installed
tom $ frpm flac
gstreamer-flac-0.8.1-3mdk
flac-1.1.0-5mdk   --
libflac++2-1.1.0-5mdk
liboggflac1-1.1.0-5mdk
libflac4-1.1.0-5mdk

usin 'urpmi flac' [cooker sources, on a cooker 10.1 system]  
(actually 'flac' was all that was installed, seems I already had 
the other bits).  I've been usin it usin as
'tom $ flac -d -8 *.flac *.wav'  (??'s)

   in the dir the *.flac's are in. CD's produced from those 
(normalized wav's) files are impressive. So are the d/l size of 
flac files. Four or more times the size of correspondin mp3's. No 
wonder they sound better than store bought CD's.

   Ogg's, no problemo. Got a perl script (ogg2wav) and made it 
a+x, put it in /usr/bin along with flac. Tho the resultin Cd's 
aren't all that much noticably better than mp3's normalized to 
wav's an burned to CD's.

   BUT, I'm at a loss with .ape's.  Google only has me more 
confused. Other than to point out it's mainly pointed at Windoze 
machines/OS.

So... criticise my flac conversion, ogg2wav, an give me some 
help with monkeys ;)   There's some stuff on ... lossless.country 
I'd like to try out
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[newbie] Installing 10.0 Official alongside 9.2

2004-05-25 Thread Marv Boyes
My apologies at the outset, since this has probably already been 
covered. I searched my local list archive back to 23 March, and couldn't 
find what I was looking for. I have no means of searching the archive 
site at the moment, so please forgive me if this is an oft-repeated 
question.

I would like to install 10.0 Official alongside my existing 9.2 
installation (on a presently Mandrake 9.2-only hard drive). The 9.2 
PowerPack has all the tools I need right now, but I'm dying to try the 
2.6 kernel while waiting until a 10.2 (or so) release to purchase 
another PowerPack. Since I haven't been able to locate an official 
Mandrake version of the 2.6 kernel ready-made for 9.2 (if such a thing 
even exists), and the prospect of rolling my own 2.6 terrifies my inner 
newbie, it looks like the side-by-side full-install route is my only option.

I use GRUB as my bootloader (I don't trust LILO, as it once ate my 
partition table, and I prefer GRUB's relatively simple configurability). 
I would like to end up with full installations of 9.2 and 10.0, bootable 
from the GRUB menu. Can I simply run the 10.0 install and trust it to 
install its own copy of GRUB with 9.2 and 10.0 ready to go, or are there 
other things I need to take into consideration (and be prepared to deal 
with)?

Any guidance would be greatly appreciated; thanks very much in advance.
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Re: [newbie] apes and flacs, I'm a dummy

2004-05-25 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Tue, 25 May 2004 19:51:18 -0500
Tom Brinkman wrote:

 So... criticise my flac conversion, ogg2wav, an give me some 
 help with monkeys ;)   There's some stuff on ... lossless.country 
 I'd like to try out



Monkey?s Audio

Does not yet support linux, but the source code is now available if you
feel up to trying it.

ttp://www.monkeysaudio.com/



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Re: [newbie] Sylpheed messages not readable in MS Outlook?

2004-05-25 Thread Asa Rossoff
From: Brian Long [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 FWIW -- I'm still going back and forth between Mandrake and XP myself, and
 I'm using Outlook 2003.  I've not had any problem like this reading any of
 the messages from this list, although each message has a message.footer
 attachment containing the following:
 
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 I just thought it might be good to clarify that your'e talking about
Outlook
 Express, not Outlook.

That makes sense, that Outlook would be better behaved, since it's updated
along with MS Office, and Outlook Express is related instead to Internet
Explorer, which isn't being actively developed.  Most home Windows users do
use Outlook Express though.

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Re: [newbie] Sylpheed messages not readable in MS Outlook?

2004-05-25 Thread Asa Rossoff
From: Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Look, Microsoft put out a broken product in the first place, and they're
 not going to fix it anytime soon. SINCE it's so damn popular, they feel
 they don't need to fix it.

 Microsoft also has a proprietary format for both Outlook Express and
 Outlook - which aren't all that compatible on a normal level - like
 everyone else's email client programs.

 Besides, why read mail in a mail client that has direct access to your
 Windows registry? Or are you tempting fate?

 stephen kuhn - owner

Your points are all true... but beside my point.  MS may be a bully, but
myself, I wouldn't email people from a mailer that MS's product couldn't
understand, if I intended to communicate with people who use MS's product.
It doesn't have to be political, just practical.

It's concievable that the issue is caused be a flaw in the Sylpheed headers.
Or, that Sylpheed is using some brand new mail standard that isn't
officially accepted yet.  Possibly enabled by a configuration option.

Brian Long just pointed out that in MS Outlook (as opposed to Outlook
Express) he doesn't get this behavior.  I might consider switching.

The reason I use Outlook Express on Windows is that none of the other
mailers available for Windows work well.  They all have greater flaws in how
they handle email.  I prefer the Express version to the MS Office (Outlook)
because I don't need the additional features of the Office version, and the
Express version does some things better (exactly what, I can't remember
anymore :-).  I'm not overly concerned about the security record of Outlook
and Outlook Express because I take many precautions and I know what's going
on with my system.  I.e., I run a good but non-leading virus protection
program (less likely to be attacked itself), a good but non-leading firewall
program (ditto), a system monitoring program, and install MS's security
patches as they come out.

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[newbie] Opera and my bank

2004-05-25 Thread David B. Williams
I've been down this path before and as usual I can't for the life of me 
remember what it was I did to fix it. So any help is appreciated.

The bank that I use for my personal accounts will accept Opera as the browser 
just fine. The bank that I use for my business accounts will not.

I moved to Opera under 9.1 because it worked with both banks. However, it 
didn't work just right with the business bank at first and I could get it 
around the error and continue anyway.

I installed 10.0 and the problem is back.

I have started by enabling everything, setting the id to MSIE6.0 and have java 
installed with a valid path. I always get the error that my sign on name or 
my passwork are incorrect.

Any suggestions?
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Re: [newbie] apes and flacs, I'm a dummy

2004-05-25 Thread Greg Meyer
On Tuesday 25 May 2004 08:51 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote:
    in the dir the *.flac's are in. CD's produced from those
 (normalized wav's) files are impressive. So are the d/l size of
 flac files. Four or more times the size of correspondin mp3's. No
 wonder they sound better than store bought CD's.

flac's can't be better than the cd's they are ripped from because they are the 
same as the cd's they are ripped from. Same with ape's.  flac's made from 
mp3's cannot be better than the mp3 (in fact they will sound identical) 
because restoring an mp3 to wav does not restore the data tossed out when the 
original wav was converted to mp3.

flac and ape is a method of compression that does not throw out any data, so 
they can be restored to the original wav.  BTW, I believe ape yields smaller 
file sizes, but takes more processor.  I also find flac easier to work with.
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Re: [newbie] Sylpheed messages not readable in MS Outlook?

2004-05-25 Thread JoeHill
On Tue, 25 May 2004 18:55:06 -0700
Asa Rossoff disseminated the following:

 I wouldn't email people from a mailer that MS's product couldn't understand,
 if I intended to communicate with people who use MS's product. It doesn't have
 to be political, just practical.

So, use broken standards to communicate with a broken mail client (MSOE)?

No thanks.

What's practical is OE following accepted standards and not 'adding
functionality' (ie. deliberately breaking standards so only MS products will
properly interoperate).

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Re: [newbie] Sylpheed messages not readable in MS Outlook?

2004-05-25 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Tue, 25 May 2004 23:04:07 -0400
JoeHill wrote:

 So, use broken standards to communicate with a broken mail client
 (MSOE)?
 
 No thanks.


I would have tried to explain to them the problem with OE.
But saw it as pointless, on my part, as OE refuses to display to them my messages 
signed with a 'standard' pgp key.



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Re: [newbie] Sylpheed messages not readable in MS Outlook?

2004-05-25 Thread Asa Rossoff
From: Thujan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Asa Rossoff kirjoitti viestissään (lähetysaika tiistai, 25. toukokuuta 2004
06:18):
 I often read this list in Outlook Express, since I still spend more time in
 Windows (haven't gotten Linux to work well with my video card, so until I
 upgrade...), and noticed that some messages appear blank, but have an
 attachment that outlook has named ATT00###.py (where ### is a number).

 The first time I saw this, I thought it was a worm of some sort
 distributing Python scripts, but when I looked at that attachment it
 contained the body of the message.

 In each case, the headers revealed that the mailer used was Sylpheed.
 (Example message, today, from Charles A. Edwards re. Intellimouse).

 I also noticed his message had the following Mime header:
 :: Mime-Version: 1.0
 :: Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol=application/pgp-signature;
 ::  micalg=pgp-sha1;
 ::  boundary=Signature=_Mon__24_May_2004_22_28_18_-
0400_EG0sF5HbG3/RPIn1

 Anyway, I thought this might be of interest, since Outlook is such a
 popular mailer, and it's probably desirable to have messages readable
 there.

 Any ideas what's causing this? (The short answer is probably Microsoft's
 broken mailer, but...)

 :)

 Asa

That is intresting matter why outlook respond gpg-mime signature also with
other clients than sylpheed, at least mutt with gpg-mime and balsa with 
gpg-mime and evolution with gpg-mime does that.
Older outlooks also respond with the word beginspacespace
I haven't heard why these features are in outlook?
I don't believe it is cause its broken they have some another purpose for
that behaving, just don't know what?
Is it cause outlook can run scripts so well or what?

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Hi Thujan,
I am having some difficulty understanding everything you said.

As an experiment, however, I just installed a certificate and will click the Sign 
button in this message window in Outlook Express before I send this message, and see 
what OE does.  (OE has an option to activate S/MIME opaque signing that it says is 
not supported by all mailers.. I did not enable that option for this test.)

Asa


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Re: [newbie] apes and flacs, I'm a dummy

2004-05-25 Thread Todd Slater
On Tue, May 25, 2004 at 07:51:18PM -0500, Tom Brinkman wrote:
 
in the dir the *.flac's are in. CD's produced from those 
 (normalized wav's) files are impressive. So are the d/l size of 
 flac files. Four or more times the size of correspondin mp3's. No 
 wonder they sound better than store bought CD's.

If you want to play flacs in xmms there's a plugin in; just visit the
flac project page. The flacs are bigger because it's a lossless
compression--Free Lossless Audio Codec.
 
Ogg's, no problemo. Got a perl script (ogg2wav) and made it 
 a+x, put it in /usr/bin along with flac. Tho the resultin Cd's 
 aren't all that much noticably better than mp3's normalized to 
 wav's an burned to CD's.
 
BUT, I'm at a loss with .ape's.  Google only has me more 
 confused. Other than to point out it's mainly pointed at Windoze 
 machines/OS.

ape is another lossless codec, and you can use it on Linux. From the
homepage you have to visit the developers page I think and you can find
the source or links to a binary; also search the forums. There's also an
xmms plugin for ape, but I usually decode them to wav and convert to
flac on general principles.

I couldn't get the most recent ape 3.99 to compile so I'm using 3.96; you
might find some apes made with 3.99 that 3.96 can't decode. Which sucks.
Download one file and try it first.

 So... criticise my flac conversion, ogg2wav, an give me some 
 help with monkeys ;)   There's some stuff on ... lossless.country 
 I'd like to try out

OK, I did your homework for you:
http://www.personal.uni-jena.de/~pfk/mpp/index2.html#ape

Todd ;)

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Re: [newbie] Info Info

2004-05-25 Thread Ariestao1
On Wed, 26 May 2004 01:05 am, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
 The Other wrote:
  Hello All,
 
  Anybody else been struggling working through the Info and Man pages,
  trying to figure out how to navigate them?
 
  I'm still not sure how to browse the Man pages with anything other than
  up and down, but last night I had the insight to try something new with
  the Info pages.
 
  info info
 
  This got me a tutorial/lesson on how to use Tab, Space Bar, Backspace,
  and Delete keys.  I haven't gotten through the lesson yet and still
  don't know how to return to the exact place you were before you
  Tab-Carriage Return'd into a new thread (you can always Delete key and
  Space key back to where you were), but I finally feel like I'm making
  progress with the Linux command documentation.
 
  For What It's Worth
  The Other

 If you are trying to navigate man pages from the command line, or in an
 Xterm, try man less.  The man command uses less as the default pager
 on most Linux distributions.  You can change it to something else by
 setting PAGER.  man man will give you more information about the man
 command.  There are also a couple of programs for reading man and info
 pages under X.  (Not sure what comes with Mandrake - I normaly use
 command line tools for that.)

 Mikkel

In konqueror you can:- in the Location line, type 
man:whatever-your-looking-for say:- man:bash or rather than type man: just 
type #bash and it will bring up the page there.

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Re: [newbie] Sylpheed messages not readable in MS Outlook?

2004-05-25 Thread Asa Rossoff
From: Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I would have tried to explain to them the problem with OE.
 But saw it as pointless, on my part, as OE refuses to display to
 them my messages signed with a 'standard' pgp key.



Charles

I don't actually let OE stop me ... just hinder me, as you can see here.  Oh
well.  If it's that MSOE refuses to display pgp-signed messages in general,
that's a shame on them.  Maybe I'll hassle them with a bug report.

If it's something you can live with, that MSOE users having trouble reading
your messages, then fine.. but it's worth being aware of.

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Re: [newbie] Sylpheed messages not readable in MS Outlook?

2004-05-25 Thread rikona
Hello Asa,

Tuesday, May 25, 2004, 6:55:06 PM, you wrote:

AR MS may be a bully,

Unfortunately true.

AR but myself, I wouldn't email people from a mailer that MS's
AR product couldn't understand, if I intended to communicate with
AR people who use MS's product.

You could always use plain text. :-)

AR The reason I use Outlook Express on Windows is that none of the
AR other mailers available for Windows work well.

After trying several, I settled on TheBat. Works VERY well, and is
very powerful. It is also outstanding for security and privacy. If you
want REALLY bulletproof security, use Secure Bat.

Or, use Linux. :-)))

AR I'm not overly concerned about the security record of Outlook and
AR Outlook Express because I take many precautions and I know what's
AR going on with my system.

I've found that by NOT using ANY M$ software other than the OS, and
staying behind a good firewall, security and privacy issues have faded
almost into obscurity. Works surprisingly well. MUCH less trouble day
to day than continuing with M$ stuff.

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Re: [newbie] Sylpheed messages not readable in MS Outlook?

2004-05-25 Thread Asa Rossoff
From: rikona [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Hello Asa,

Hello :)


 Tuesday, May 25, 2004, 6:55:06 PM, you wrote:

 AR MS may be a bully,

 Unfortunately true.

 AR but myself, I wouldn't email people from a mailer that MS's
 AR product couldn't understand, if I intended to communicate with
 AR people who use MS's product.

 You could always use plain text. :-)

 AR The reason I use Outlook Express on Windows is that none of the
 AR other mailers available for Windows work well.

 After trying several, I settled on TheBat. Works VERY well, and is
 very powerful. It is also outstanding for security and privacy. If you
 want REALLY bulletproof security, use Secure Bat.

 Or, use Linux. :-)))

I'll check into TheBat.  I also have a history of being cheap with software,
so I may have skipped it in the past if there was a pricetag...

I'm working on my move to Linux, of course.


 AR I'm not overly concerned about the security record of Outlook and
 AR Outlook Express because I take many precautions and I know what's
 AR going on with my system.

 I've found that by NOT using ANY M$ software other than the OS, and
 staying behind a good firewall, security and privacy issues have faded
 almost into obscurity. Works surprisingly well. MUCH less trouble day
 to day than continuing with M$ stuff.

 --

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Other than OE I'm not using any MS software.   Hey, sonic.net :-)  You must
be in the North SF Bay like me...

Asa



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Re: [newbie] How make a server ftp

2004-05-25 Thread Marc
If I am not mistaken MDK 9.2/MDK10CE come pre-installed with a ftp server, 
that is of course if you dont deselect the package during the innitial 
install phase.

On Tuesday, 25 May 2004 19:53, Donato wrote:
 Can anyone tell me how to install a server ftp in mandrake 9.2?

 Thanks
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