Re: [newbie] [OT] Yet another MS threat
On Tue, 2004-09-21 at 08:18, Eric Scott wrote: On Mon, 2004-09-20 at 21:19, JoeHill wrote: On 20 Sep 2004 14:34:45 -0500 Eric Scott disseminated the following: Lol, ranks right up there with freeyourmachine.org, only this stuff's logical instead of the ramblings of an overemphasizing MS-hater. This link is... um... the logical, reasonable, believable ramblings of an overemphasizing MS-hater. Thanks for the positive feedback. I'm really glad you joined our little group here. Now fuck off. Lol, don't worry, I was already considering trying out debian on the server I'm about to buy, in which case you won't have to deal with me on your little group list any longer - 'cept when I need to deal with this box. :-P God Bless, Sc ...sorry, had to laugh at this one -- stephen kuhn - proprietor __ illawarra computer services :: a kuhn media australia venture http://kma.0catch.com :: mobile 0410.728.389 Serving Sydney, The Illawarra, South Coast and Rural NSW __ * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents __ Mandrake GNU/Linux 10.0 OE/Kernel 2.6.3-7/ No Viruses here. We are generalists. You can't draw neat lines around planetwide problems. Planetology is a cut-and-fit science. -PARDOT KYNES, Treatise on the Environmental Recovery of Post-Holocaust Salusa Secundus Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] [OT] Yet another MS threat
On Tue, 2004-09-21 at 12:19, JoeHill wrote: On 20 Sep 2004 14:34:45 -0500 Eric Scott disseminated the following: Lol, ranks right up there with freeyourmachine.org, only this stuff's logical instead of the ramblings of an overemphasizing MS-hater. This link is... um... the logical, reasonable, believable ramblings of an overemphasizing MS-hater. Thanks for the positive feedback. I'm really glad you joined our little group here. Now fuck off. Joe Joe Joe Joe joe...c'mon mate...you can be a slight bit more subtle than that, can't ya? -- stephen kuhn - proprietor __ illawarra computer services :: a kuhn media australia venture http://kma.0catch.com :: mobile 0410.728.389 Serving Sydney, The Illawarra, South Coast and Rural NSW __ * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents __ Mandrake GNU/Linux 10.0 OE/Kernel 2.6.3-7/ No Viruses here. The Commandments of the EE: (1) Beware of lightning that lurketh in an uncharged condenser lest it cause thee to bounce upon thy buttocks in a most embarrassing manner. (2) Cause thou the switch that supplieth large quantities of juice to be opened and thusly tagged, that thy days may be long in this earthly vale of tears. (3) Prove to thyself that all circuits that radiateth, and upon which the worketh, are grounded and thusly tagged lest they lift thee to a radio frequency potential and causeth thee to make like a radiator too. (4) Tarry thou not amongst these fools that engage in intentional shocks for they are not long for this world and are surely unbelievers. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Sigmatel 4200 IRDA to USB
On Tuesday 21 September 2004 05:27, Lanman wrote: Just out of curiosity, how do I determine which USB device port it's attached to? USBview had lots of info about the unit, but doesn't clearly state the device settings to use, - ie; it doesn't say anything about which device to assign for the IRDA to USB bridge like proc/dev/usb/???, so i can't accurately point it to a spcific port designation. Don't know about this specific device but, when hooking up any new usb device I always have a konsole open with tail -f /var/log/messages running. That way I can see where it's getting connectederrr, most of the time:) -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] [OT] Yet another MS threat
On Mon, 2004-09-20 at 22:19, JoeHill wrote: On 20 Sep 2004 14:34:45 -0500 Eric Scott disseminated the following: Lol, ranks right up there with freeyourmachine.org, only this stuff's logical instead of the ramblings of an overemphasizing MS-hater. This link is... um... the logical, reasonable, believable ramblings of an overemphasizing MS-hater. Thanks for the positive feedback. I'm really glad you joined our little group here. Now fuck off. While I think that your arrival was bad to the point that you caused your own name to be added to the etiquette rules list. This email is a prime example of why that was. Eric might also be interested to know that your candy ass was spanked so bad on the OT list that you ran back over here. Now stop growling and snapping at the zoo visitors, or your daily supply of weed will be sharply curtailed. LX Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 9.1 mouse lockup
On Tuesday 21 September 2004 07:01, Tom Karen Pino wrote: Brian, Called Lorin and he gave this a try. He got to the menu and could not get any of it to work with the enter key or a number of other key strokes (linux commands, I assume). I assume that this means that the install of his 9.1 is screwy in some way and he should reinstall. If this assumption is correct and I am not having a MS moment, should he reformate his HD or just reload? Or is there something else that we are over looking here? He really liked that menu. Too bad it won't work. Tom Brian Parish wrote: On Mon, 2004-09-20 at 09:42, Tom Karen Pino wrote: Welcome Tom, Can't provide you with exact settings for this mouse, but have him try this: At the boot manager prompt (I assume he's installed with lilo), press Esc to get the boot prompt, then type: linux init 3 That will boot the machine without starting X - i.e. command line only. Login as root and then type: drakconf That will produce a menu including mouse selection - probably under hardware. It's been a while since both 9.1 and using this interface for me, so I'm unable to be more specific. Hopefully that will at least get a start on fixing the problem. HTH Brian You can select the mouse configuration with the up and down arrow keys. The tab key lets you then select 'OK' or 'cancel'. If 'OK' is highlighted you can press 'enter' and you should at least get a bit further. Good luck! -Frans Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] [OT] Yet another MS threat
On Mon, 2004-09-20 at 22:55, Lanman wrote: JoeHill wrote: On 20 Sep 2004 14:34:45 -0500 Eric Scott disseminated the following: Lol, ranks right up there with freeyourmachine.org, only this stuff's logical instead of the ramblings of an overemphasizing MS-hater. This link is... um... the logical, reasonable, believable ramblings of an overemphasizing MS-hater. Thanks for the positive feedback. I'm really glad you joined our little group here. Now fuck off. Ah yes, Once again, Joe Hill opens his yap and eloquent responses spew out. It's the pothead thing. Like alchoholism, the death of a critical number of neurons leads to serotonin imbalance, lack of comprehension and a corresponding need to emit snaps and growls. Keep visitors away from the cage for two months, and administer a forced rectal exam every day during that period until the behavior subsides. All Hail Joe Hill, or you might get sworn at and then plonked! OH, NOOooo! Not plonked by the Mighty Joe Hill? Say it isn't so! How can we manage to live without his snappy, witty, intelligent retorts and enlightened opinions! Please! Someone pinch me before I suffocate from laughing this hard! Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 LX Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] [OT] Yet another MS threat
Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Mon, 2004-09-20 at 22:55, Lanman wrote: On 20 Sep 2004 14:34:45 -0500 Eric Scott disseminated the following: Why is everyone suddenly having a go at Joe? -- Graham Watkins Don't be lucid and ironic; people will turn this against you to show that you aren't a nice person. - Albert Camus Registered Linux user number 265254 http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Choice of DVD Blank Media over Device make
I bought a NEC 2510A recently. I have never bought DVD blanks before, whether dual or single layer.I note that here in UK, suppliers are grading the media make against manufacturer/device.That implies they have had trouble with some makes of media with certain makes of drive. I wondered if list members have had similar experiences like that themselves or are our suppliers being very cautious ? So far I haven't come across any NEC website to give guidance upon media make and type for DVD write purposes. That suggests they don't expect any problems or they don't want to own up to a problem. It would help if one understood the technical whys and wherefores of choosing Media for DVD write purposes. I do not tend to buy re-writes for dvd writing. A preliminary inquiry of the media makes tells me different makes of media seem to have different dye colours, and in the past, in my experience, this has made no difference to choice of media make, but maybe it is different where dvd write media is concerned. I have had no experience to judge them by, maybe list members have ? One thing I have noted in my experience price is absolutely no guide to media quality. Right now I would be content to buy blank single layer dvd write only, working my way up from the cheapest available, and I guess that will be the only definative arguement in the end. I don't have any reliable dual layer software at the moment and so don't feel motivated to seek dual layer blanks right now. If anyone knows of any experimental linux app with dual layer software I would be prepared to give it a shot if I can get media. John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
RE: [newbie] TightVNC Server... wassup??
Any clues as to what is going on in ~/.xsession-errors? Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Eric Scott Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 3:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] TightVNC Server... wassup?? Yo; I have TightVNC running on a Mandrake 9.1 box on a network with several Windows NT based computers. I've figured out how to get vncserver running... and have it running on display 2. When I access it from the remote computer, however, it starts to load the KDE desktop... then the taksbar disappears, the cursor switches to the loading (watch) icon, and it stalls. any help? Thanx, ES Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Choice of DVD Blank Media over Device make
On Tuesday 21 September 2004 05:45, John Richard Smith wrote: I bought a NEC 2510A recently. I have never bought DVD blanks before, whether dual or single layer. I note that here in UK, suppliers are grading the media make against manufacturer/device. That implies they have had trouble with some makes of media with certain makes of drive. Stands to reason that with any hardware device, there will be variations in manufacturing standards. However, suppliers grading media against specific devices does NOT imply that there are issues with other devices so much as that they are guaranteeing some level of compatibility/functionality with the specific device. Could be for a number of reasons, including: 1. They have tested with that specific device to save the customer the trouble. 2. They are using the grading as a marketing device to justify higher costs for media/device. I wondered if list members have had similar experiences like that themselves or are our suppliers being very cautious ? I have heard some people claim that specific media was better than others, and others have said it makes no difference. My own take is that you should buy good media for important things, and cheap media for the rest. If you want to burn at top speed in a new drive, you need media that is rated for the top speed and you may want to get media that has been tested against the specific drive. So far I haven't come across any NEC website to give guidance upon media make and type for DVD write purposes. That suggests they don't expect any problems or they don't want to own up to a problem. Or that they don't have any specific agreements to benefit from making any recommendations. Common business practice to not recommend specific manufacturer's media if they aren't paying you to do so. It would help if one understood the technical whys and wherefores of choosing Media for DVD write purposes. I do not tend to buy re-writes for dvd writing. I am just the opposite, preferring re-writes over write-onlys. A preliminary inquiry of the media makes tells me different makes of media seem to have different dye colours, and in the past, in my experience, this has made no difference to choice of media make, but maybe it is different where dvd write media is concerned. I have had no experience to judge them by, maybe list members have ? I have not heard anything about any specific dye colors or other material affecting dvd burners. Format, speed, and end device (player) compatibility are all that I have seen discussed. One thing I have noted in my experience price is absolutely no guide to media quality. Me too. It is, however, an indication of advertising. Right now I would be content to buy blank single layer dvd write only, working my way up from the cheapest available, and I guess that will be the only definative arguement in the end. Personally, I tend to stick with DVD+RW, and I usually buy pretty inexpensive media. My take is that it is slightly more expensive than buying single write only, but if a mistake is made or something doesn't burn right, I can erase and try again. Also, I like the +RW format SO much more than the -R/-RW format. If I burn once and keep it forever, well, it was simply a slightly expensive single burn disk. In my mind, the slightly higher expense is worth the flexibility of not having to worry about getting a coaster. YMMV. P.S. the slightly higher expense that I refer to is the fact that you can buy dvd+rw media for a little less than 1$ per disk at various mail order places in the US. +r or -r is slightly cheaper than that at maybe 1/2 the cost. -- Bryan Phinney Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mozilla crashing sometimes...
On Monday 20 September 2004 22:53, Merlin Zener wrote: snip Open a terminal, become root, change into the directory firefox-installer, (the one created by tar -zxvf), then type : ./firefox-installer (without the quotes). Maybe it won't install from a GUI. thanks for your thoughts, Kaj. But that didn't work either: http://www.merlinzener.com/snapshot6.png and from the text window: [EMAIL PROTECTED] downloads]$ cd firefox-installer [EMAIL PROTECTED] firefox-installer]$ su Password: [EMAIL PROTECTED] firefox-installer]# ./firefox-installer [EMAIL PROTECTED] firefox-installer]# what am I doing wrong? /snip Actually I don't know, Merlin. This problem is very strange as Firefox is supposed to come as a complete package, i.e. with its own installer as opposed to a rpm. Judging from your screenshot, the problem seems to be a missing or defect libplc4.so. On my system it says : [EMAIL PROTECTED] kaj]$ locate libplc4.so /usr/lib/mozilla/libplc4.so /usr/lib/libplc4.so /usr/lib/firefox-installer/libplc4.so /usr/lib/openoffice/program/libplc4.so [EMAIL PROTECTED] kaj]$ If you get the same answer from locate someone wiser than me please step in here. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.0) - kernel 2.6.7* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] TightVNC Server... wassup??
On Tuesday 21 September 2004 12:18, Bill Shirley wrote: Any clues as to what is going on in ~/.xsession-errors? Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Eric Scott Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 3:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] TightVNC Server... wassup?? Yo; I have TightVNC running on a Mandrake 9.1 box on a network with several Windows NT based computers. I've figured out how to get vncserver running... and have it running on display 2. When I access it from the remote computer, however, it starts to load the KDE desktop... then the taksbar disappears, the cursor switches to the loading (watch) icon, and it stalls. any help? Thanx, ES Have you done all your updates? I remember there used to be an issue with KDE and vnc. Not sure if it was 9.1 derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Choice of DVD Blank Media over Device make
On Tuesday 21 September 2004 06:24, Bryan Phinney wrote: On Tuesday 21 September 2004 05:45, John Richard Smith wrote: I bought a NEC 2510A recently. FWIW I receiently purchased a Plextor 708A and with the drive I also ordered 25 RW disks and 25 -R disks. I received the following: Memorex DVD +RW Approx $1.00/Disk Memorex DVD -R Not sure. Likely $0.50 Also have: Sony CD R Approx 0.30 In the US I havent noticed any brand/drive combo being advertised. -- Regards; Hoyt Registered Linux User #363264 http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Choice of DVD Blank Media over Device make
I bought a NEC 2510A recently. I have never bought DVD blanks before, whether dual or single layer. I note that here in UK, suppliers are grading the media make against manufacturer/device. That implies they have had trouble with some makes of media with certain makes of drive. I wondered if list members have had similar experiences like that themselves or are our suppliers being very cautious ? So far I haven't come across any NEC website to give guidance upon media make and type for DVD write purposes. That suggests they don't expect any problems or they don't want to own up to a problem. It would help if one understood the technical whys and wherefores of choosing Media for DVD write purposes. I do not tend to buy re-writes for dvd writing. A preliminary inquiry of the media makes tells me different makes of media seem to have different dye colours, and in the past, in my experience, this has made no difference to choice of media make, but maybe it is different where dvd write media is concerned. I have had no experience to judge them by, maybe list members have ? One thing I have noted in my experience price is absolutely no guide to media quality. Right now I would be content to buy blank single layer dvd write only, working my way up from the cheapest available, and I guess that will be the only definative arguement in the end. I don't have any reliable dual layer software at the moment and so don't feel motivated to seek dual layer blanks right now. If anyone knows of any experimental linux app with dual layer software I would be prepared to give it a shot if I can get media. John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mozilla crashing sometimes...
On Tue, 2004-09-21 at 17:12, Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Monday 20 September 2004 22:53, Merlin Zener wrote: snip Actually I don't know, Merlin. This problem is very strange as Firefox is supposed to come as a complete package, i.e. with its own installer as opposed to a rpm. Judging from your screenshot, the problem seems to be a missing or defect libplc4.so. On my system it says : [EMAIL PROTECTED] kaj]$ locate libplc4.so /usr/lib/mozilla/libplc4.so /usr/lib/libplc4.so /usr/lib/firefox-installer/libplc4.so /usr/lib/openoffice/program/libplc4.so [EMAIL PROTECTED] kaj]$ If you get the same answer from locate someone wiser than me please step in here. Well it's not quite the same, I don't know what to make of it so I'll just paste it here for any comments... [EMAIL PROTECTED] merlin]$ locate libplc4.so /usr/lib/libplc4.so /usr/lib/openoffice/program/libplc4.so /usr/local/mozilla/libplc4.so [EMAIL PROTECTED] merlin]$ seems to be missing from the firefox-installer directory, but to me that would be a symptom of it not being able to install in the first place. I've been all over the mozilla site but not found any hints. Should I just copy the one from either the /usr/lib or open office directories? -- Merlin Zener Piano, Synthesizer Thailand. ...if my calculations are correct... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Sigmatel 4200 IRDA to USB
H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Tuesday 21 September 2004 05:27, Lanman wrote: Just out of curiosity, how do I determine which USB device port it's attached to? USBview had lots of info about the unit, but doesn't clearly state the device settings to use, - ie; it doesn't say anything about which device to assign for the IRDA to USB bridge like proc/dev/usb/???, so i can't accurately point it to a spcific port designation. Don't know about this specific device but, when hooking up any new usb device I always have a konsole open with tail -f /var/log/messages running. That way I can see where it's getting connectederrr, most of the time:) Well,...Here's what I got from the tail command; Sep 21 08:49:33 daboss kernel: usb 1-1: USB disconnect, address 3 Sep 21 08:49:47 daboss kernel: ohci_hcd :00:03.0: wakeup Sep 21 08:49:48 daboss kernel: usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using address 4 Sep 21 08:49:48 daboss kernel: SigmaTel STIr4200 IRDA/USB found at address 4, Vendor: 66f, Product: 4200 Sep 21 08:49:48 daboss kernel: IrDA: Registered SigmaTel device irda0 This was displayed after removing and re-connecting the IRDA dongle, but how do I interpret the information into a specific path to a device - ie; /proc/bus/usb/device port and address? I'd like to be able to assign a specific address to this thing if possible. Can you tell I'm not big on USB? Grin! -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Sigmatel 4200 IRDA to USB
On Tuesday 21 September 2004 14:09, Lanman wrote: H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Tuesday 21 September 2004 05:27, Lanman wrote: Just out of curiosity, how do I determine which USB device port it's attached to? USBview had lots of info about the unit, but doesn't clearly state the device settings to use, - ie; it doesn't say anything about which device to assign for the IRDA to USB bridge like proc/dev/usb/???, so i can't accurately point it to a spcific port designation. Don't know about this specific device but, when hooking up any new usb device I always have a konsole open with tail -f /var/log/messages running. That way I can see where it's getting connectederrr, most of the time:) Well,...Here's what I got from the tail command; Sep 21 08:49:33 daboss kernel: usb 1-1: USB disconnect, address 3 Sep 21 08:49:47 daboss kernel: ohci_hcd :00:03.0: wakeup Sep 21 08:49:48 daboss kernel: usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using address 4 Sep 21 08:49:48 daboss kernel: SigmaTel STIr4200 IRDA/USB found at address 4, Vendor: 66f, Product: 4200 Sep 21 08:49:48 daboss kernel: IrDA: Registered SigmaTel device irda0 This was displayed after removing and re-connecting the IRDA dongle, but how do I interpret the information into a specific path to a device - ie; /proc/bus/usb/device port and address? I'd like to be able to assign a specific address to this thing if possible. Can you tell I'm not big on USB? Grin! It is in the message Registered SigmaTel device irda0 It has been registered as /dev/irda0 derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mozilla crashing sometimes...
On Tuesday 21 September 2004 14:35, Merlin Zener wrote: On Tue, 2004-09-21 at 17:12, Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Monday 20 September 2004 22:53, Merlin Zener wrote: snip Actually I don't know, Merlin. This problem is very strange as Firefox is supposed to come as a complete package, i.e. with its own installer as opposed to a rpm. Judging from your screenshot, the problem seems to be a missing or defect libplc4.so. On my system it says : [EMAIL PROTECTED] kaj]$ locate libplc4.so /usr/lib/mozilla/libplc4.so /usr/lib/libplc4.so /usr/lib/firefox-installer/libplc4.so /usr/lib/openoffice/program/libplc4.so [EMAIL PROTECTED] kaj]$ If you get the same answer from locate someone wiser than me please step in here. Well it's not quite the same, I don't know what to make of it so I'll just paste it here for any comments... [EMAIL PROTECTED] merlin]$ locate libplc4.so /usr/lib/libplc4.so /usr/lib/openoffice/program/libplc4.so /usr/local/mozilla/libplc4.so [EMAIL PROTECTED] merlin]$ seems to be missing from the firefox-installer directory, but to me that would be a symptom of it not being able to install in the first place. I've been all over the mozilla site but not found any hints. Should I just copy the one from either the /usr/lib or open office directories? Honestly, I don't know. But since firefox won't install in the first place, I don't think it can harm anything. Eventually, this being a .so file, you could try to symlink it in the installer directory. Otherwise, this is beyond me, sorry. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.0) - kernel 2.6.7* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Choice of DVD Blank Media over Device make
Bryan Phinney wrote: On Tuesday 21 September 2004 05:45, John Richard Smith wrote: Stands to reason that with any hardware device, there will be variations in manufacturing standards. However, suppliers grading media against specific devices does NOT imply that there are issues with other devices so much as that they are guaranteeing some level of compatibility/functionality with the specific device. Could be for a number of reasons, including: 1. They have tested with that specific device to save the customer the trouble. 2. They are using the grading as a marketing device to justify higher costs for media/device. Good point. I guess in most cases they will not of been able to test it. I don't think it's the 2nd point on this occasion. Doesn't appear to be anyway. So far I haven't come across any NEC website to give guidance upon media make and type for DVD write purposes. That suggests they don't expect any problems or they don't want to own up to a problem. Or that they don't have any specific agreements to benefit from making any recommendations. Common business practice to not recommend specific manufacturer's media if they aren't paying you to do so. I guess that is it. A preliminary inquiry of the media makes tells me different makes of media seem to have different dye colours, and in the past, in my experience, this has made no difference to choice of media make, but maybe it is different where dvd write media is concerned. I have had no experience to judge them by, maybe list members have ? I have not heard anything about any specific dye colors or other material affecting dvd burners. Format, speed, and end device (player) compatibility are all that I have seen discussed. One thing I have noted in my experience price is absolutely no guide to media quality. Me too. It is, however, an indication of advertising. Quite. Right now I would be content to buy blank single layer dvd write only, working my way up from the cheapest available, and I guess that will be the only definative arguement in the end. Personally, I tend to stick with DVD+RW, and I usually buy pretty inexpensive media. My take is that it is slightly more expensive than buying single write only, but if a mistake is made or something doesn't burn right, I can erase and try again. Also, I like the +RW format SO much more than the -R/-RW format. If I burn once and keep it forever, well, it was simply a slightly expensive single burn disk. In my mind, the slightly higher expense is worth the flexibility of not having to worry about getting a coaster. YMMV. P.S. the slightly higher expense that I refer to is the fact that you can buy dvd+rw media for a little less than 1$ per disk at various mail order places in the US. +r or -r is slightly cheaper than that at maybe 1/2 the cost. OK, but tell me what actually is the difference between CD-R , and CD+R ? John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Sigmatel 4200 IRDA to USB
Derek Jennings wrote: On Tuesday 21 September 2004 14:09, Lanman wrote: H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Tuesday 21 September 2004 05:27, Lanman wrote: Just out of curiosity, how do I determine which USB device port it's attached to? USBview had lots of info about the unit, but doesn't clearly state the device settings to use, - ie; it doesn't say anything about which device to assign for the IRDA to USB bridge like proc/dev/usb/???, so i can't accurately point it to a spcific port designation. Don't know about this specific device but, when hooking up any new usb device I always have a konsole open with tail -f /var/log/messages running. That way I can see where it's getting connectederrr, most of the time:) Well,...Here's what I got from the tail command; Sep 21 08:49:33 daboss kernel: usb 1-1: USB disconnect, address 3 Sep 21 08:49:47 daboss kernel: ohci_hcd :00:03.0: wakeup Sep 21 08:49:48 daboss kernel: usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using address 4 Sep 21 08:49:48 daboss kernel: SigmaTel STIr4200 IRDA/USB found at address 4, Vendor: 66f, Product: 4200 Sep 21 08:49:48 daboss kernel: IrDA: Registered SigmaTel device irda0 This was displayed after removing and re-connecting the IRDA dongle, but how do I interpret the information into a specific path to a device - ie; /proc/bus/usb/device port and address? I'd like to be able to assign a specific address to this thing if possible. Can you tell I'm not big on USB? Grin! It is in the message Registered SigmaTel device irda0 It has been registered as /dev/irda0 derek Thanks Derek. All this time I thought I had to look for a USB device, and there it was right in front of me. Can you say Dufus? DoH! Now for the big question,...How do I associate that with a program for data transfers? Do I mount it like a hard drive or use hotplug for the job? Also, is there a program that you know of that can monitor signal strength between the dongle and Infra-Red devices? BTW, Thanks for taking the time to help. Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] VOBCOPY
When Vobcopy copies the selected vob files on a dvd CD it does do via the regional decryption code built into the dvd drive does it not ? Does that then mean then, that the resulting vob files sitting nicely on your hard drive are minus the regional encryption from there on ? What about dvdcss ? Is dvdcss decryption as well as encoding ? John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.1 community on bittorrent = slow
On Monday 20 September 2004 09:04 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: On Monday 20 September 2004 07:05 pm, Scott Mazur wrote: The ISOs could be distributed to many more reliable mirrors where highband width is a planned feature easily accomodated. and extremely expensive. Yes, prohibitively so. Fact is, for those that don't have highspeed connections or don't wanna fool with the torrents Websites like cheapbytes and others do, and they're some of the first to grab the CD's. EG, Cheapbytes has 10.1 CE 5 CD sets available right now. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Choice of DVD Blank Media over Device make
On Tuesday 21 September 2004 09:37, John Richard Smith wrote: OK, but tell me what actually is the difference between CD-R , and CD+R ? No such animal. There is only CDR and CDRW, there is no +/- related to CD media. The only reason there is a +/- with DVD is that there are two industry standards. At least with single layer. I suspect there will also be 2 industry standards for dual-layer DVD as well. -- Bryan Phinney Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Sigmatel 4200 IRDA to USB
On Tuesday 21 September 2004 14:36, Lanman wrote: SNIP Thanks Derek. All this time I thought I had to look for a USB device, and there it was right in front of me. Can you say Dufus? DoH! Now for the big question,...How do I associate that with a program for data transfers? Do I mount it like a hard drive or use hotplug for the job? Also, is there a program that you know of that can monitor signal strength between the dongle and Infra-Red devices? BTW, Thanks for taking the time to help. Lanman Hotplug has already associated the driver with the USB device and registered it. Now all you have to do is attach an application to the character device /dev/irda0. Check out Digikam http://digikam.sourceforge.net/ also install gphoto2 http://www.gphoto.org/ Digikam is a **really nice** image management app. It will capture images from USB mass storage cameras, or any camera supported by gphoto2. Since you are using Irda instead of mass storage I suspect you will need gphoto2 derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] 10.0 official gremlins not seen before
Had to rebuild my main desktop box over the weekend due to a little adventure with urpmi --auto-select with experimental sources defined. Fun for all the family! Installed clean, then upgraded to kernel-2.6.3-16 Also did urpmi --auto-select with just the proxad official updates. Things work nicely overall except... 1. Every time I close konqueror, I get a crash message - signal 11 (SIGSEGV) 2. Mozilla won't run at all - clicking on the icon just gets me a starting block for a while. Typing mozilla into a console acts like I had just hit enter on a blank line. 3. Konsole functions normally except that the mouse is invisible when over the area inside its window. 4. Firefox does this and dies: The program 'Gecko' received an X Window System error. This probably reflects a bug in the program. The error was 'BadName (named color or font does not exist)'. (Details: serial 1072 error_code 15 request_code 45 minor_code 0) These all seem to point to X, which is why I have posted once rather than four times. Any clues out there? The differences from my previous stable install (pre-urpmi knockout blow) that I can think of are: - kernel was -14 I think, but definitely a little earlier than -16 - xinerama was on as now, but the implementation was different. i.e. I now have two screens that function like one big screen, whereas before I had two screens with individual backgrounds and kicker functional only on one. Again, this points to differences in X and/or KDE between installs. TIA Brian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0 official gremlins not seen before
On Tuesday 21 September 2004 16:34, Brian Parish wrote: Things work nicely overall except... Probably you've got old KDE .rc files (and such of the same for a few other apps). Rename your .kde file in your home directory and logout and in again as the user you are. My bet is most of your crashes and probs will have gone. This will require you to copy settings back from the old .kde like kmail.rc if you want to retain passwords, filters and the such. Just for testing you could create a new user and fire it up to see which crashes will be gone and which won't. -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Dual boot problems
I have been fighting with a dual boot installation for days. I give up!!! It's time to ask you folks. I just did a low level format of the Hard drive and then a fresh install of win XP. Did a defrag, shut down right away and did a install of ML . I shrunk the windows partision 50% and did the rest of the installation. All went well. when I rebooted ML it worked great, as always. when I try to boot to XP all get is a black screen with a flashing curser. Anyone have any idea of what went wrong? Or how to fix it. Thanks Marc Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Conversion from text to a spreadsheet format
On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 15:59:27 +0100, Paul Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for telling me that. I have selected no reply-to address in my GMail configuration, but it still adds my own address. If I write none, empty or blank as reply-to address, it happens what you have just noticed. I have already reported this problem to GMail team. GMail team has just communicated me that Gmail does not currently support the functionality to create an empty Reply-to address. Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Dual boot problems
On Tuesday 21 September 2004 12:09, Marc wrote: I have been fighting with a dual boot installation for days. I give up!!! It's time to ask you folks. I just did a low level format of the Hard drive and then a fresh install of win XP. Did a defrag, shut down right away and did a install of ML . I shrunk the windows partision 50% and did the rest of the installation. All went well. when I rebooted ML it worked great, as always. when I try to boot to XP all get is a black screen with a flashing curser. Anyone have any idea of what went wrong? Or how to fix it. Thanks Marc Reinstall XP. Insert CD1 run an update not a reinstall of mdk and you should be ok. Better reinstall mdk on the entire disk! -- Regards; Hoyt Registered Linux User #363264 http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Adding media to MCC Media Manager.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I am trying to add the 5 CD's of my mdk10.0 Distro into the media manager. With a CD1 in the drive this is the output from terminal: [EMAIL PROTECTED] simon]# urpmi.addmedia -h -c -f CD1 removeable://mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/RPMS added medium CD1 examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.updates.cz] examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.main.cz] examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.contrib.cz] retrieving source hdlist (or synthesis) of CD1... retrieval of source hdlist (or synthesis) failed no hdlist file found for medium CD1 examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.CD1.cz] problem reading synthesis file of medium CD1 unable to update medium CD1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] simon]# Help please. Thanks, Simon. - -- Linux Counter number 359744. http://counter.li.org/ GnuPG Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xE94E2292 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBUIJcYreSoOlOIpIRAgZqAJ98HOvQUVQ+XEA+F1T3/q/7f/nNHgCfQb8Q j6MQkvAFZOBtbZ+RefABehk= =V2PW -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mozilla crashing sometimes...
On Tue, 2004-09-21 at 06:53, Merlin Zener wrote: thanks for your thoughts, Kaj. But that didn't work either: http://www.merlinzener.com/snapshot6.png and from the text window: [EMAIL PROTECTED] downloads]$ cd firefox-installer [EMAIL PROTECTED] firefox-installer]$ su Password: [EMAIL PROTECTED] firefox-installer]# ./firefox-installer [EMAIL PROTECTED] firefox-installer]# what am I doing wrong? -- Merlin Zener Piano, Synthesizer Thailand. ...if my calculations are correct... Are you installing this as ROOT or as yourself? You have to make sure you install the program as root, else you will get errors - and best to install it to /usr/local/firefox as well mate... -- stephen kuhn - proprietor __ illawarra computer services :: a kuhn media australia venture http://kma.0catch.com :: mobile 0410.728.389 Serving Sydney, The Illawarra, South Coast and Rural NSW __ * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents __ Mandrake GNU/Linux 10.0 OE/Kernel 2.6.3-7/ No Viruses here. The algorithm to do that is extremely nasty. You might want to mug someone with it. -- M. Devine, Computer Science 340 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] [OT] Yet another MS threat
On Tue, 2004-09-21 at 19:42, Graham Watkins wrote: Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Mon, 2004-09-20 at 22:55, Lanman wrote: On 20 Sep 2004 14:34:45 -0500 Eric Scott disseminated the following: Why is everyone suddenly having a go at Joe? Because he's there? -- stephen kuhn - proprietor __ illawarra computer services :: a kuhn media australia venture http://kma.0catch.com :: mobile 0410.728.389 Serving Sydney, The Illawarra, South Coast and Rural NSW __ * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents __ Mandrake GNU/Linux 10.0 OE/Kernel 2.6.3-7/ No Viruses here. Comedy, like Medicine, was never meant to be practiced by the general public. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] UDF format cd-writer for Linux
Dear All Is there some program to write on cd-rws in such a way that the files can be updated without having to erase the cd before writing the new version of the files? In particular, I am interested in a program that writes in UDF format (to be also compatible with MS Windows cd-writer programs). Thanks in advance, Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Adding media to MCC Media Manager.
On Tuesday 21 September 2004 20:34, Simon Utley wrote: Hi, I am trying to add the 5 CD's of my mdk10.0 Distro into the media manager. With a CD1 in the drive this is the output from terminal: [EMAIL PROTECTED] simon]# urpmi.addmedia -h -c -f CD1 removeable://mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/RPMS added medium CD1 examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.updates.cz] examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.main.cz] examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.contrib.cz] retrieving source hdlist (or synthesis) of CD1... retrieval of source hdlist (or synthesis) failed no hdlist file found for medium CD1 examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.CD1.cz] problem reading synthesis file of medium CD1 unable to update medium CD1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] simon]# Help please. Thanks, Simon. Use urpmi.addmedia --distrib cdrom removable:///mnt/cdrom with CD1 in the drive. BTW: Do you really want your hostname to be your MAC address? Or is it getting set to that by your ISP against your will? If so the in your /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 file (or whatever your interface is called) set the line NEEDHOSTNAME=no and set your hostname to be as you want it in /etc/sysconfig/network with HOSTNAME=myhostname.localdomain derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mozilla crashing sometimes...
On Tuesday 21 September 2004 21:32, Stephen Kühn wrote: Are you installing this as ROOT or as yourself? You have to make sure you install the program as root, else you will get errors - and best to install it to /usr/local/firefox as well mate... How about just untarring/unzipping the static package in yer home directorie? It works fine. Just start firefox from there and everything works hunkydory for me, be it a slackware or mandrake installation. Slack's faster though:) -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Dual boot problems
On Tuesday 21 September 2004 01:37 pm, Hoyt Bailey wrote: On Tuesday 21 September 2004 12:09, Marc wrote: Reinstall XP. Insert CD1 run an update not a reinstall of mdk and you should be ok. Better reinstall mdk on the entire disk! Thanks I will give it a try. You are right about better to install Mandrake on the entire disk but it is a friends machine and his wife and kids are sure that the world would end if they did not have XP. There is NO microsux junk on my personal machines :) ! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] ENC: How to configure modem interface
Hi friends ! I have The Mandrake Linux 9.2 in my machine and need to learn how to configure serial interface/modem I have some scripts goods for ppp and chat and I get connections by configuration executable only. My friends I would like to do my connections by myself and follow step by step. I now that is possible but I don't now how to do. In the scripts I have one the calling isp that it's in /etc/ppp/peers/isp, I don't now who executable run this that scripts. That scripts calls chat executable that's make the connection for us. I believe /etc/ppp/peers/isp configuring and starting the serial port / modem for us. But i need the program for run that... I'm really sorry about my english and knowledgement about Linux, Thank's people Fernando Eduardo Goncalves TI Suport [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 9.1 mouse lockup
Frans, This is what he did and got no response at all. Tom Frans Ketelaars wrote: On Tuesday 21 September 2004 07:01, Tom Karen Pino wrote: Brian, Called Lorin and he gave this a try. He got to the menu and could not get any of it to work with the enter key or a number of other key strokes (linux commands, I assume). I assume that this means that the install of his 9.1 is screwy in some way and he should reinstall. If this assumption is correct and I am not having a MS moment, should he reformate his HD or just reload? Or is there something else that we are over looking here? He really liked that menu. Too bad it won't work. Tom Brian Parish wrote: On Mon, 2004-09-20 at 09:42, Tom Karen Pino wrote: Welcome Tom, Can't provide you with exact settings for this mouse, but have him try this: At the boot manager prompt (I assume he's installed with lilo), press Esc to get the boot prompt, then type: linux init 3 That will boot the machine without starting X - i.e. command line only. Login as root and then type: drakconf That will produce a menu including mouse selection - probably under hardware. It's been a while since both 9.1 and using this interface for me, so I'm unable to be more specific. Hopefully that will at least get a start on fixing the problem. HTH Brian You can select the mouse configuration with the up and down arrow keys. The tab key lets you then select 'OK' or 'cancel'. If 'OK' is highlighted you can press 'enter' and you should at least get a bit further. Good luck! -Frans Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Re: kernal header source files
Hello, Where can I found Mandrake 9.1 source files? I bought three CDs, but it only contains RPMS, RPMS2 and RPMS3, there is no source code included. Thank you. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] commerical CD
Can anyone provide a (link to a) list of rpms on 10.1CE CD5, the commercial rpms? TIA Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Dual boot problems
On Tuesday 21 September 2004 18:22, Marc wrote: On Tuesday 21 September 2004 05:53 pm, Hoyt Bailey wrote: On Tuesday 21 September 2004 17:18, Marc wrote: On Tuesday 21 September 2004 01:37 pm, Hoyt Bailey wrote: On Tuesday 21 September 2004 12:09, Marc wrote: snip Reinstall XP. Insert CD1 run an update not a reinstall of mdk and you should be ok. I just tried that and still get the same black screen when trying to boot into windoze. also tried inserting Mandrake disk 1, using the F1 option, typing rescue and using the restore MBR option. Still no joy. The good news is that mandrake still works well. Marc Windows XP didn't reinstall. Did the system reformat while reinstalling XP this should be done because you have a defective file in the windows part. Yep I did the windows format ruteine. Not the quick format but the full format. I have had this problem several times before on this machine and the only way that I have been able to get winsux back up and running is to do a full low level format using the zero fill tool from seagate and then doing the winsux reinstall. I have done dual boot installations with XP and ML before and NEVER had this kind of problem!!! Maybe I should mention that this is a brand new XP cd that I am using. It is supposed to have service pack 1 allready installed on it. This is starting to make me wonder if the folks at microsux have not found a way to take something bad and make it worse. The update dosen't need rescue mode but is probabley dosen't hurt to use it. I would just take defaults untill I had the option to select update/install and then select update. Yep I tried that. After that did not work I tried the rescue mode. By the end of the night the XP disk may become a target for rifle practice at 200 yards. Thanks Marc That would be more fun. The only suggestion I would have is to do a low level format and partition with the mdk CD1 using expert mode and define all partitions making Wind$usks the 1st partition. Then install windows XP and make sure it works. Then install mdk and if windows quits working have fun at the range. -- Regards; Hoyt Registered Linux User #363264 http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Dual boot problems
On Tuesday 21 September 2004 08:07 pm, Hoyt Bailey wrote: On Tuesday 21 September 2004 18:22, Marc wrote: On Tuesday 21 September 2004 05:53 pm, Hoyt Bailey wrote: On Tuesday 21 September 2004 17:18, Marc wrote: On Tuesday 21 September 2004 01:37 pm, Hoyt Bailey wrote: On Tuesday 21 September 2004 12:09, Marc wrote: snip Reinstall XP. Insert CD1 run an update not a reinstall of mdk and you should be ok. I just tried that and still get the same black screen when trying to boot into windoze. also tried inserting Mandrake disk 1, using the F1 option, typing rescue and using the restore MBR option. Still no joy. The good news is that mandrake still works well. Marc Windows XP didn't reinstall. Did the system reformat while reinstalling XP this should be done because you have a defective file in the windows part. Yep I did the windows format ruteine. Not the quick format but the full format. I have had this problem several times before on this machine and the only way that I have been able to get winsux back up and running is to do a full low level format using the zero fill tool from seagate and then doing the winsux reinstall. I have done dual boot installations with XP and ML before and NEVER had this kind of problem!!! Maybe I should mention that this is a brand new XP cd that I am using. It is supposed to have service pack 1 allready installed on it. This is starting to make me wonder if the folks at microsux have not found a way to take something bad and make it worse. The update dosen't need rescue mode but is probabley dosen't hurt to use it. I would just take defaults untill I had the option to select update/install and then select update. Yep I tried that. After that did not work I tried the rescue mode. By the end of the night the XP disk may become a target for rifle practice at 200 yards. Thanks Marc That would be more fun. The only suggestion I would have is to do a low level format and partition with the mdk CD1 using expert mode and define all partitions making Wind$usks the 1st partition. Then install windows XP and make sure it works. Then install mdk and if windows quits working have fun at the range. Been there, done that, yesterday. Here is the latest game plan. I am going to use a floppy for the master boot record. If that works I may try it putting the MBR on the root partison or perhaps creating a seperate partison for the MBR. I cant remember what all the options for the MBR are at the end of the ML install. Hell I never needed to . The defalt setting always worked UNTIL NOW. My best guess at this point is that maybe XP does not like sharing the first sector of the Hard disk with anything else, juest a guess. Thanks for your suggestions. Marc Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Dual boot problems
On Tuesday 21 September 2004 20:28, Marc wrote: On Tuesday 21 September 2004 08:07 pm, Hoyt Bailey wrote: On Tuesday 21 September 2004 18:22, Marc wrote: On Tuesday 21 September 2004 05:53 pm, Hoyt Bailey wrote: On Tuesday 21 September 2004 17:18, Marc wrote: On Tuesday 21 September 2004 01:37 pm, Hoyt Bailey wrote: On Tuesday 21 September 2004 12:09, Marc wrote: snip Reinstall XP. Insert CD1 run an update not a reinstall of mdk and you should be ok. I just tried that and still get the same black screen when trying to boot into windoze. also tried inserting Mandrake disk 1, using the F1 option, typing rescue and using the restore MBR option. Still no joy. The good news is that mandrake still works well. Marc Windows XP didn't reinstall. Did the system reformat while reinstalling XP this should be done because you have a defective file in the windows part. Yep I did the windows format ruteine. Not the quick format but the full format. I have had this problem several times before on this machine and the only way that I have been able to get winsux back up and running is to do a full low level format using the zero fill tool from seagate and then doing the winsux reinstall. I have done dual boot installations with XP and ML before and NEVER had this kind of problem!!! Maybe I should mention that this is a brand new XP cd that I am using. It is supposed to have service pack 1 allready installed on it. This is starting to make me wonder if the folks at microsux have not found a way to take something bad and make it worse. The update dosen't need rescue mode but is probabley dosen't hurt to use it. I would just take defaults untill I had the option to select update/install and then select update. Yep I tried that. After that did not work I tried the rescue mode. By the end of the night the XP disk may become a target for rifle practice at 200 yards. Thanks Marc That would be more fun. The only suggestion I would have is to do a low level format and partition with the mdk CD1 using expert mode and define all partitions making Wind$usks the 1st partition. Then install windows XP and make sure it works. Then install mdk and if windows quits working have fun at the range. Been there, done that, yesterday. Here is the latest game plan. I am going to use a floppy for the master boot record. If that works I may try it putting the MBR on the root partison or perhaps creating a seperate partison for the MBR. I cant remember what all the options for the MBR are at the end of the ML install. Hell I never needed to . The defalt setting always worked UNTIL NOW. My best guess at this point is that maybe XP does not like sharing the first sector of the Hard disk with anything else, juest a guess. Thanks for your suggestions. Marc Sounds reasonable, have fun. -- Regards; Hoyt Registered Linux User #363264 http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mozilla crashing sometimes...
On Wed, 2004-09-22 at 07:08, Merlin Zener wrote: On Wed, 2004-09-22 at 02:32, Stephen Kühn wrote: [...snip] Are you installing this as ROOT or as yourself? You have to make sure you install the program as root, else you will get errors - and best to install it to /usr/local/firefox as well mate... well, I just opened up a text window, typed SU and entered the same password as root. Is that different to installing it as root, somehow? Should I reboot and log in as root? -- Merlin Zener Nah - that would have been right matestrange, but... -- stephen kuhn - proprietor __ illawarra computer services :: a kuhn media australia venture http://kma.0catch.com :: mobile 0410.728.389 Serving Sydney, The Illawarra, South Coast and Rural NSW __ * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents __ Mandrake GNU/Linux 10.0 OE/Kernel 2.6.3-7/ No Viruses here. Have you noticed the way people's intelligence capabilities decline sharply the minute they start waving guns around? -- Dr. Who Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
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