[newbie] Getting packages...

2005-03-24 Thread Madhusudan, R
Hi,

I have a system running Mandrake 10.1. I tried installing samba 3.0.11
on the system, but it failed as follows:

# urpmi samba samba-3.0.11-1.i386.rpm
Some package requested cannot be installed:
samba-3.0.11-1.i386 (due to unsatisfied liblber-2.2.so.7)

Can anyone tell me how and from where I could liblber-2.2.so.7 package
via urpmi?

Thanks,
Madhu



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Re: [newbie] USB card reader problem

2005-03-24 Thread Rosemary McGillicuddy

Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
SnapafunFrank wrote:
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote:
Frank suggested I install explore2fs and post the fstab file.
Here it is
/dev/hda5 / ext3 defaults 1 1
/dev/hda9 /home ext3 defaults 1 2
/dev/hda6 /mnt ext3 defaults 1 2
/dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom auto 
umask=0,user,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,noauto,ro,exec,users 0 0
none /mnt/floppy supermount 
dev=/dev/fd0,fs=ext2:vfat,--,umask=0,iocharset=iso8859-15,sync,codepage=850 
0 0
/dev/hda1 /mnt/windows ntfs umask=0,nls=iso8859-15,ro 0 0
none /proc proc defaults 0 0
/dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0
/dev/hda8 swap swap defaults 0 0

Regards
Rosemary

This is strange. You are mounting hda6 on /mnt, and then the CD-ROM 
is mounting on /mnt/cdrom. It is not normal proactice to mount 
anyting on /mnt, as you normaly have mount points for removable 
devices in this directory. In your case, your CD-ROM is mounted 
there, as well as your Windows partition. I would have to look into 
things a lot deeper, to see exactly what order things would get 
mounted, but I can picture all kinds of strange things going on here. 
If the Windows partition gets mounted before hda6, then you are 
probably going to lose access to it. I am not sure what is going to 
happen with the CD-ROM, but I would not be susprised if it failed to 
mount if there is not a cdrom directory in the base directory on hda6.

What you may want to try is to boot the install CD in the rescue 
mode, drop to the console, and run:

mount /dev/hda5 /mnt
cd /mnt/etc
mv fstab fstab.save
grep -v hda6 fstab.save  fstab
cd
umount /mnt
reboot
What you are doing is to mount your root partition, and change to 
what is normaly the /etc direcroty. You are then renaming fstab to 
fstab.save. The grep command is cheating a new fstab without the hda6 
line in it.

If you are more comfortable using vi instead of messing around with 
grep, and renaming files, use this instead.

mount /dev/hda5 /mnt
cd /mnt/etc
cp fstab fstab.save
vi fstab
   move down to line starting /dev/hda6
   Enter i#Esc
   Enter :wq
cd /
umount /mnt
eboot
For the vi commands, do not enter the , and the Esc is the Esc 
key. Use the down arrow key to move down the hage. What you are doing 
is putting the # at the start of the line to comment it out. You do 
not realy need to make a backup copy of fstab, but I like to play it 
safe.

Now, I don't know if this will fix the problem you are having, and we 
will have to discover what is going on with hda6, and where it should 
be mounted. But it is one problem that I do see, so fixing it should 
not hurt. (If it is susposed to be mounted of /usr, then we have to 
get it mounted correctly before the will boot correctly!)

Mikkel

OK Mikkel, I did not see it that way and submit that you know more 
about this than I but I'm not clear about this and wonder if Rosemary 
will be able to follow the logic you mention.

First, I agree that hda6 as the /mnt directory is out of place, and 
wonder why the /mnt directory even has it's own partition. The 
directories inside my /mnt directory are afterall only to allow
linking to partitions and/or devices. Hence my windows partition would 
be something like  /dev/hdb1 /mnt/win  with  win  being the 
partition and not  mnt .

I now see even more issues and can understand your concern so would 
ask how we could get the result printf from her windows side that 
would give us the same result we can get
when we issue:

# df
when within our running system. eg: mine looks like this ~
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mnt]# df
FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda5 966M  711M  206M  78% /
/dev/hda1 966M   14M  903M   2% /boot
/dev/hda6 9.4G  5.1G  4.0G  57% /usr
/dev/hda8 9.4G  8.7G  730M  93% /home
/dev/hda91020M  303M  666M  32% /var
/dev/hda3  12G  1.3G  9.5G  13% /mnt/empty
/dev/hda4 3.4G  2.7G  713M  80% /mnt/win_h
/dev/hdb2  16M  2.3M   13M  16% /mnt/hdb2_boot
/dev/hdb5  92M   55M   33M  63% /mnt/hdb5_root
/dev/hdb6  92M   62M   25M  72% /mnt/hdb6_var
/dev/hdb7 3.1G  1.9G  1.1G  64% /mnt/hdb7_usr
/dev/hdb9 1.5G  1.4G  151M  91% /mnt/hdb9_home
/dev/hdb1  14G   13G  1.2G  92% /mnt/win_c2
 From this printf we would be able to determine the correct layout for 
/etc/fstab for her hard drive, and I agree, before she gets to cdrom, 
floppies, etc.

[ An alternative is to get her up with the rescue option as you 
described above and take her step by step through
the commands she needs to get us the relevant info. ~ your thoughts ? ]

But I reiterate ~ /mnt should not be a partition on it's own ?  
Your thoughts here also please.

Thinking back on some other posts of hers, I think it should be /data 
instead of /mnt.

I am not sure how to explain about what would be going on here - it is 
not a newbie topic, as the logic is a bit hard to follow. The things is, 
you can 

Re: [newbie] USB card reader problem

2005-03-24 Thread Rosemary McGillicuddy

SnapafunFrank wrote:
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote:
Frank suggested I install explore2fs and post the fstab file.
Here it is
/dev/hda5 / ext3 defaults 1 1
/dev/hda9 /home ext3 defaults 1 2
/dev/hda6 /mnt ext3 defaults 1 2
/dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom auto 
umask=0,user,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,noauto,ro,exec,users 0 0
none /mnt/floppy supermount 
dev=/dev/fd0,fs=ext2:vfat,--,umask=0,iocharset=iso8859-15,sync,codepage=850 
0 0
/dev/hda1 /mnt/windows ntfs umask=0,nls=iso8859-15,ro 0 0
none /proc proc defaults 0 0
/dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0
/dev/hda8 swap swap defaults 0 0

Regards
Rosemary

This is strange. You are mounting hda6 on /mnt, and then the CD-ROM is 
mounting on /mnt/cdrom. It is not normal proactice to mount anyting on 
/mnt, as you normaly have mount points for removable devices in this 
directory. In your case, your CD-ROM is mounted there, as well as your 
Windows partition. I would have to look into things a lot deeper, to 
see exactly what order things would get mounted, but I can picture all 
kinds of strange things going on here. If the Windows partition gets 
mounted before hda6, then you are probably going to lose access to it. 
I am not sure what is going to happen with the CD-ROM, but I would not 
be susprised if it failed to mount if there is not a cdrom directory 
in the base directory on hda6.

What you may want to try is to boot the install CD in the rescue mode, 
drop to the console, and run:

mount /dev/hda5 /mnt
cd /mnt/etc
mv fstab fstab.save
grep -v hda6 fstab.save  fstab
cd
umount /mnt
reboot
What you are doing is to mount your root partition, and change to what 
is normaly the /etc direcroty. You are then renaming fstab to 
fstab.save. The grep command is cheating a new fstab without the hda6 
line in it.

If you are more comfortable using vi instead of messing around with 
grep, and renaming files, use this instead.

mount /dev/hda5 /mnt
cd /mnt/etc
cp fstab fstab.save
vi fstab
   move down to line starting /dev/hda6
   Enter i#Esc
   Enter :wq
cd /
umount /mnt
eboot
For the vi commands, do not enter the , and the Esc is the Esc key. 
Use the down arrow key to move down the hage. What you are doing is 
putting the # at the start of the line to comment it out. You do not 
realy need to make a backup copy of fstab, but I like to play it safe.

Now, I don't know if this will fix the problem you are having, and we 
will have to discover what is going on with hda6, and where it should 
be mounted. But it is one problem that I do see, so fixing it should 
not hurt. (If it is susposed to be mounted of /usr, then we have to 
get it mounted correctly before the will boot correctly!)

Mikkel

OK Mikkel, I did not see it that way and submit that you know more about 
this than I but I'm not clear about this and wonder if Rosemary will be 
able to follow the logic you mention.
And Rosemary is wondering about it too!  :-)  Not doing anything until I 
am off nights and recovered, and can think straight.  Also see my other 
post re other possibilities of error ...
First, I agree that hda6 as the /mnt directory is out of place, and 
wonder why the /mnt directory even has it's own partition. The 
directories inside my /mnt directory are afterall only to allow
linking to partitions and/or devices. Hence my windows partition would 
be something like  /dev/hdb1 /mnt/win  with  win  being the 
partition and not  mnt .

I now see even more issues and can understand your concern so would ask 
how we could get the result printf from her windows side that would give 
us the same result we can get
when we issue:

# df
when within our running system. eg: mine looks like this ~
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mnt]# df
FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda5 966M  711M  206M  78% /
/dev/hda1 966M   14M  903M   2% /boot
/dev/hda6 9.4G  5.1G  4.0G  57% /usr
/dev/hda8 9.4G  8.7G  730M  93% /home
/dev/hda91020M  303M  666M  32% /var
/dev/hda3  12G  1.3G  9.5G  13% /mnt/empty
/dev/hda4 3.4G  2.7G  713M  80% /mnt/win_h
/dev/hdb2  16M  2.3M   13M  16% /mnt/hdb2_boot
/dev/hdb5  92M   55M   33M  63% /mnt/hdb5_root
/dev/hdb6  92M   62M   25M  72% /mnt/hdb6_var
/dev/hdb7 3.1G  1.9G  1.1G  64% /mnt/hdb7_usr
/dev/hdb9 1.5G  1.4G  151M  91% /mnt/hdb9_home
/dev/hdb1  14G   13G  1.2G  92% /mnt/win_c2
 From this printf we would be able to determine the correct layout for 
/etc/fstab for her hard drive, and I agree, before she gets to cdrom, 
floppies, etc.

[ An alternative is to get her up with the rescue option as you 
described above and take her step by step through
the commands she needs to get us the relevant info. ~ your thoughts ? ]

But I reiterate ~ /mnt should not be a partition on it's own ?  Your 
thoughts here also please.



Re: [newbie] Getting packages...

2005-03-24 Thread Derek Jennings
On Thursday 24 March 2005 08:52, Madhusudan, R wrote:
 Hi,

 I have a system running Mandrake 10.1. I tried installing samba 3.0.11
 on the system, but it failed as follows:

 # urpmi samba samba-3.0.11-1.i386.rpm
 Some package requested cannot be installed:
 samba-3.0.11-1.i386 (due to unsatisfied liblber-2.2.so.7)

 Can anyone tell me how and from where I could liblber-2.2.so.7 package
 via urpmi?

 Thanks,
 Madhu

The latest version of Samba on the 10.1 update servers is 
samba-server-3.0.10.-0.1.101mdk

You are trying to install what looks like a RedHat package.
Is there a particular reason why you *have* to have 3.0.11  ?

If you really must have samba-3.0.11 then you can get it in two ways.
You can either upgrade your system to current 'Cooker' (probably not a good 
idea if this is a 'production' machine), or you can recompile the 
samba-3.0.11 src.rpm from Cooker for 10.1

You can get the src RPM from here
ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake-devel/cooker/SRPMS/main

and instructions for compiling a src rpm from here
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-newbiem=110751580509076w=2

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Re: [newbie] Getting packages...

2005-03-24 Thread Mohammed Badran
On Thursday 24 March 2005 10:52 am, Madhusudan, R wrote:
 Hi,

 I have a system running Mandrake 10.1. I tried installing samba 3.0.11
 on the system, but it failed as follows:

 # urpmi samba samba-3.0.11-1.i386.rpm
 Some package requested cannot be installed:
 samba-3.0.11-1.i386 (due to unsatisfied liblber-2.2.so.7)

 Can anyone tell me how and from where I could liblber-2.2.so.7 package
 via urpmi?

 Thanks,
 Madhu

liblber-2.2.so.7 can be for OpenLDAP libraries
you can download it from

http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/4/idpl/1712461/com/libldap2.2_7-2.2.23-3mdk.i586.rpm.html

and also you can search for valuable rpms at http://rpm.pbone.net/ or 
http://www.rpmfind.net/

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[newbie] USB card reader problem

2005-03-24 Thread Rosemary McGillicuddy
Thought I'de better add this - Lilo options -
linux,
linux-nonf b,
windows, 2681 -12,
failsafe.
2681-12 is what gets me into Mandrake 10.1, or did.
Rosemary

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RE: [newbie] Getting packages...

2005-03-24 Thread Madhusudan, R
Hello Derek,

Could you please point me to the update server from where I could pull
down the samba kit? 

Thanks,
Madhu

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Derek Jennings
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 3:05 PM
To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
Subject: Re: [newbie] Getting packages...

On Thursday 24 March 2005 08:52, Madhusudan, R wrote:
 Hi,

 I have a system running Mandrake 10.1. I tried installing samba 3.0.11
 on the system, but it failed as follows:

 # urpmi samba samba-3.0.11-1.i386.rpm
 Some package requested cannot be installed:
 samba-3.0.11-1.i386 (due to unsatisfied liblber-2.2.so.7)

 Can anyone tell me how and from where I could liblber-2.2.so.7
package
 via urpmi?

 Thanks,
 Madhu

The latest version of Samba on the 10.1 update servers is 
samba-server-3.0.10.-0.1.101mdk

You are trying to install what looks like a RedHat package.
Is there a particular reason why you *have* to have 3.0.11  ?

If you really must have samba-3.0.11 then you can get it in two ways.
You can either upgrade your system to current 'Cooker' (probably not a
good 
idea if this is a 'production' machine), or you can recompile the 
samba-3.0.11 src.rpm from Cooker for 10.1

You can get the src RPM from here
ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake-devel/cooker/SRPMS
/main

and instructions for compiling a src rpm from here
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-newbiem=110751580509076w=2

derek
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Re: [newbie] Getting packages...

2005-03-24 Thread Derek Jennings
On Thursday 24 March 2005 09:51, Madhusudan, R wrote:
 Hello Derek,

 Could you please point me to the update server from where I could pull
 down the samba kit?

 Thanks,
 Madhu

SNIP

It is on all the update servers. All you have to do is define an update urpmi 
source and then run the Software Install GUI to install samba if it is not 
already installed, or the Software Update GUI if it is already installed.

If you do not have an update source defined yet go to
http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/
and follow the instructions to select one.
(Tip: In linux copy/paste is highlight/press mouse wheel )

While you are there define sources for 'contrib' and 'plf' and you will have 
access to 100's of extra packages not on your CDs

derek

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RE: [newbie] Getting packages...

2005-03-24 Thread Madhusudan, R
Hello,

I downloaded the samba source RPM, and when I tried to install it on my
system, it resulted in an error:

# rpm -i samba-3.0.11-4mdk.src.rpm
error: samba-3.0.11-4mdk.src.rpm: V3 DSA signature: BAD, key ID 26752624
error: samba-3.0.11-4mdk.src.rpm cannot be installed

What am I doing wrong?

Thanks,
Madhu

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Derek Jennings
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 3:05 PM
To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
Subject: Re: [newbie] Getting packages...

On Thursday 24 March 2005 08:52, Madhusudan, R wrote:
 Hi,

 I have a system running Mandrake 10.1. I tried installing samba 3.0.11
 on the system, but it failed as follows:

 # urpmi samba samba-3.0.11-1.i386.rpm
 Some package requested cannot be installed:
 samba-3.0.11-1.i386 (due to unsatisfied liblber-2.2.so.7)

 Can anyone tell me how and from where I could liblber-2.2.so.7
package
 via urpmi?

 Thanks,
 Madhu

The latest version of Samba on the 10.1 update servers is 
samba-server-3.0.10.-0.1.101mdk

You are trying to install what looks like a RedHat package.
Is there a particular reason why you *have* to have 3.0.11  ?

If you really must have samba-3.0.11 then you can get it in two ways.
You can either upgrade your system to current 'Cooker' (probably not a
good 
idea if this is a 'production' machine), or you can recompile the 
samba-3.0.11 src.rpm from Cooker for 10.1

You can get the src RPM from here
ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake-devel/cooker/SRPMS
/main

and instructions for compiling a src rpm from here
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-newbiem=110751580509076w=2

derek
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Re: [newbie] Which Kernel For 10.1 ?

2005-03-24 Thread Mr. Geek
Pete Moscatt wrote:
Thanks Mr Geek (I like the name...),

Pete
Nice of you to notice. I got fed up with being called a 'Geek' all the 
time, so I decided to add the 'Mr' in the hopes it might make people 
respect me more.

Unfortunately, it hasn't helped much, but at least it brings a smile to 
a few faces now and then! Sigh. Besides, it's like they say,when 
you're this old, they call you Mister! Grin!

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Re: [newbie] Getting packages...

2005-03-24 Thread Derek Jennings
On Thursday 24 March 2005 11:00, Madhusudan, R wrote:
 Hello,

 I downloaded the samba source RPM, and when I tried to install it on my
 system, it resulted in an error:

 # rpm -i samba-3.0.11-4mdk.src.rpm
 error: samba-3.0.11-4mdk.src.rpm: V3 DSA signature: BAD, key ID 26752624
 error: samba-3.0.11-4mdk.src.rpm cannot be installed

 What am I doing wrong?

 Thanks,
 Madhu

First you should be installing as a user not root.
Second you must have the directory structure defined in your /home as 
described in that link I gave you.

Do not worry about the bad signature. That just means you do not have the 
Cooker GPG signature on your keyring.

derek

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Re: [newbie] Getting packages...

2005-03-24 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Thursday 24 March 2005 07:38 am, Derek Jennings wrote:

 First you should be installing as a user not root.

Derek, I'm confused about this - no normal user on any of my systems has the 
right to install or delete (system) software - this is a root privilege, (rpm 
group?), from my understanding. Of course they can install and delete in 
their own /home directory. Did I miss something? Thanks.

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RE: [newbie] Getting packages...

2005-03-24 Thread Madhusudan, R
Hi,

Second you must have the directory structure defined in your /home as 
described in that link I gave you.

Sorry, but I didn't quite get this. 

Thanks,
Madhu

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Derek Jennings
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 6:08 PM
To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
Subject: Re: [newbie] Getting packages...

On Thursday 24 March 2005 11:00, Madhusudan, R wrote:
 Hello,

 I downloaded the samba source RPM, and when I tried to install it on
my
 system, it resulted in an error:

 # rpm -i samba-3.0.11-4mdk.src.rpm
 error: samba-3.0.11-4mdk.src.rpm: V3 DSA signature: BAD, key ID
26752624
 error: samba-3.0.11-4mdk.src.rpm cannot be installed

 What am I doing wrong?

 Thanks,
 Madhu

First you should be installing as a user not root.
Second you must have the directory structure defined in your /home as 
described in that link I gave you.

Do not worry about the bad signature. That just means you do not have
the 
Cooker GPG signature on your keyring.

derek

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Re: [newbie] K Mail question

2005-03-24 Thread SOTL
On Wednesday 23 March 2005 23:35, Aron Smith wrote:
 k Mail is opening ok but when you shut it down there is a pop under that
 tells you
 KDEInit could not launch kontact-kmail.sh
 OK
 so whats wrong?

You open Kmail by opening Kmail.
You did not open Kmail by opening Kcontact first.

If you do not want the error message open Kcontact and that will take you 
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[newbie] MP3 player half capacity

2005-03-24 Thread Christophe
Hello,
I have a small mp3 player with 254 mb storage. But I can only use half 
of it 124 mb. I checked for hydden files or so but with no success. I 
tried to format the device but also no changes.
Did some one have the same problem?
Thanks
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[newbie] win4lin

2005-03-24 Thread Christophe
Hello,
Since I can not watch dvds on my laptop ( and I tried...) and I need 
Asymetrix Toolbook to create educational material.
How can I install win 98 ( I have the cd for it) on my machine who is 
completely dedicated to MDK 10.1 community.
I saw a win4lin kernel, what is the purpose of it?
Is it easy to install windows under MDK when you have one 60 GB HD on a 
acer Aspire 1680 notebook?
I'm sorry to do that but I have to work too :-D  ...from time to time!
Thank you
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Re: [newbie] MP3 player half capacity

2005-03-24 Thread Aron Smith
On Thursday 24 March 2005 06:23 am, Christophe wrote:
 Hello,
 I have a small mp3 player with 254 mb storage. But I can only use half
 of it 124 mb. I checked for hydden files or so but with no success. I
 tried to format the device but also no changes.
 Did some one have the same problem?
 Thanks
 Christophe
I have had this problem 
A lot of the DRMed  players wind upkeeping a copy of whatever you put into 
them in the base memory strangely the MMC cards can be used to full capacity


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Re: [newbie] win4lin

2005-03-24 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 24 Mar 2005 14:32, Christophe wrote:
 Hello,
 Since I can not watch dvds on my laptop ( and I tried...) 

It certainly can be done.  Of course it depends whether you have the time to 
troubleshoot your problem.

 and I need 
 Asymetrix Toolbook to create educational material.

I don't know the program, so I don't know whether it can be run under wine 
(free).  Win4Lin will definitely run it if it runs under Win98.  Check out 
netraverse.com for more details.  You need the 5.1 version.

 How can I install win 98 ( I have the cd for it) on my machine who is
 completely dedicated to MDK 10.1 community.
 I saw a win4lin kernel, what is the purpose of it?
 Is it easy to install windows under MDK when you have one 60 GB HD on a
 acer Aspire 1680 notebook?

I'm about to do an install on my desktop machine.  The only problem I see is 
in matching the kernel you are running.  Downloading the Win4Lin installer 
will check whether your kernel is one that they directly support.  If it 
isn't you will have to look at other possibilities (that's what I have to do 
today).  Once you are over that hurdle, installing the windows distro is 
easy.  Configuration is easy enough if you read the docs.  It certainly makes 
life easier if you have apps you need - but it is not free, although I don't 
think it's extortionate, considering what software for windows normally 
costs.

 I'm sorry to do that but I have to work too :-D  ...from time to time!

No apology necessary - and I certainly know the feeling :-)

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Re: [newbie] Getting packages...

2005-03-24 Thread Derek Jennings
On Thursday 24 March 2005 12:51, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
 On Thursday 24 March 2005 07:38 am, Derek Jennings wrote:
  First you should be installing as a user not root.

 Derek, I'm confused about this - no normal user on any of my systems has
 the right to install or delete (system) software - this is a root
 privilege, (rpm group?), from my understanding. Of course they can install
 and delete in their own /home directory. Did I miss something? Thanks.

This is a src.rpm  installing it simply puts the source tarball in 
~/rpm/SOURCES and the .spec file in ~/rpm/SPECS where they can be compiled 
with an rpmbuild command (also as  user).

Once compiled a binary rpm package appears in ~/rpm/RPMS/i586 which then has 
to be installed as root.

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Re: [newbie] MP3 player half capacity

2005-03-24 Thread Christophe
Aron Smith wrote:
On Thursday 24 March 2005 06:23 am, Christophe wrote:
 

Hello,
I have a small mp3 player with 254 mb storage. But I can only use half
of it 124 mb. I checked for hydden files or so but with no success. I
tried to format the device but also no changes.
Did some one have the same problem?
Thanks
Christophe
   

I have had this problem 
A lot of the DRMed  players wind upkeeping a copy of whatever you put into 
them in the base memory strangely the MMC cards can be used to full capacity

 

Sorry but I don't understand what you try to tell me.
Thanks
Christophe
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Re: [newbie] Getting packages...

2005-03-24 Thread Derek Jennings
On Thursday 24 March 2005 13:04, Madhusudan, R wrote:
 Hi,

 Second you must have the directory structure defined in your /home as
 described in that link I gave you.

 Sorry, but I didn't quite get this.

 Thanks,
 Madhu

I gave you the link
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-newbiem=110751580509076w=2

That tells you to create these directories in your /home  (~ is shorthand for 
your home directory)

~/rpm
~/rpm/BUILD
~/rpm/SPECS
~/rpm/SOURCES
~/rpm/RPMS
~/rpm/RPMS/i586
~/rpm/RPMS/noarch
~/rpm/RPMS/i386
~/rpm/RPMS/i686
~/rpm/RPMS/athlon
~/rpm/SRPMS
~/rpm/tmp


When you install the src.rpm (as a user) it will unpack the source code into 
~/rpm/SOURCES

After compiling the src.rpm (with 'rpmbuild -bb samba.spec'), a compiled rpm 
will appear in ~/rpm/RPMS/i586

If those directories do not exist installing the src.rpm will fail.

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Re: [newbie] Getting packages...

2005-03-24 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Thursday 24 March 2005 10:12 am, Derek Jennings wrote:

 This is a src.rpm  installing it simply puts the source tarball in
 ~/rpm/SOURCES and the .spec file in ~/rpm/SPECS where they can be compiled
 with an rpmbuild command (also as  user).

 Once compiled a binary rpm package appears in ~/rpm/RPMS/i586 which then
 has to be installed as root.

 derek

Ah, that explains it. Thanks! :-)

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Re: [newbie] K Mail question

2005-03-24 Thread Fajar Priyanto
On Thursday 24 March 2005 20:29, SOTL wrote:
 On Wednesday 23 March 2005 23:35, Aron Smith wrote:
  k Mail is opening ok but when you shut it down there is a pop under that
  tells you
  KDEInit could not launch kontact-kmail.sh
  OK
  so whats wrong?

 You open Kmail by opening Kmail.
 You did not open Kmail by opening Kcontact first.

 If you do not want the error message open Kcontact and that will take you
 directly to Kmail

Oh wow!
I've been googling for this error all my life. Thanks you very much SOTL.

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Re: [newbie] Getting packages...

2005-03-24 Thread Fajar Priyanto
On Thursday 24 March 2005 23:15, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
 On Thursday 24 March 2005 10:12 am, Derek Jennings wrote:
  This is a src.rpm  installing it simply puts the source tarball in
  ~/rpm/SOURCES and the .spec file in ~/rpm/SPECS where they can be
  compiled with an rpmbuild command (also as  user).
 
  Once compiled a binary rpm package appears in ~/rpm/RPMS/i586 which then
  has to be installed as root.
 
  derek

 Ah, that explains it. Thanks! :-)

Or if we use root, the rebuild command will put the rpm file directly 
in /usr/src/RPMS/i586 etc

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Re: [newbie] MySQL File Location

2005-03-24 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
SOTL wrote:
Well I change the datadir in mysql-max and I have generated numerous versions 
of my.cnf directing MySQL to my desired directory each change causing  MySQL 
refused to run. So I keep playing around with mysql-max and found that there 
is a second place where the config file does a test of the datadir so I 
changed that. At that point MySQL would open and did switch data directories. 
Continued to play with MySQL, making and deleting DB et. i.e. all the things 
a newbie does with a book and a new program. Then, I shut the box down for 
the night and went home. It is after all only a test box at this time but it 
is damn noise so to keep the piece down it goes. Anyway, firing it up the 
next afternoon I was amassed to discover that MySQL would not open with the 
same old error message that it could not find the data directory. I the reset 
the data directory to the original settings and MySQL again started working. 
So, there are at least 3 places that you MUST change the data directory at in 
configuration files in order to change the data directory. Best best is to do 
it by symbolic link as no newbie is going to figure out how to do it in 
configuration files. My only comment: How quaint, how 1950s that there 
exist programs in which one can not select the data directory. 

Frank
PS. Thanks for the help. It is definitely appreciated. 

Frank,
 One thing to keep in mind, when changing things in the file in 
/etc/rc.d/init.d - You have to stop and restart MySQL before they take 
effect. The values in the script are only read at startup. You should 
probably learn about the service command. If you are using mysql, then 
you would run service mysql start to start it, service mysql stop to 
stop it, and service mysql restart to test your changes. If you use 
mysql-max, then use that in mlace of mysql in the service command.
 You may also be having a problem because on not understanding how the 
script works. Not every instruction in the script get run. It does 
tests, and if a value is set, then it skips part of the code. This is 
why you see references to /etc/my.cnf in the script, even though 
creating or changing this file has no affect on MySQL. This is because 
that part of the script does not get accessed on a Mandrake box. So you 
will want to be carefull aboout changing things in the script. The 
values that you would want to change are always at the beginning of the 
line, and normaly have a comment block before them.

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Re: [newbie] MP3 player half capacity

2005-03-24 Thread Aron Smith
On Thursday 24 March 2005 07:39 am, Christophe wrote:
 Aron Smith wrote:
 On Thursday 24 March 2005 06:23 am, Christophe wrote:
 Hello,
 I have a small mp3 player with 254 mb storage. But I can only use half
 of it 124 mb. I checked for hydden files or so but with no success. I
 tried to format the device but also no changes.
 Did some one have the same problem?
 Thanks
 Christophe
 
 I have had this problem
 A lot of the DRMed  players wind upkeeping a copy of whatever you put into
 them in the base memory strangely the MMC cards can be used to full
  capacity

 Sorry but I don't understand what you try to tell me.
 Thanks
 Christophe
The last two players that I had  had a hidden directory on them where the 
Win$ux Digital Rights Managment software was located this keeps a list of 
what you download to it when you remove the song the W$ software deletes it
is your player on this list?
http://tuxmobil.org/player_linux_survey_creative.html


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[newbie] Security updates for new MD10.1

2005-03-24 Thread DAN WALKER
Please excuse my newness...

I tried to do the updates for my i686 machine, but it
says that the website is uncontactable. Where can I
find a list of update mirrors. I have googled but can
not find any.

I tried to update using KDE's update thingy. Also
Mandrake Online cannot connect to its servers.

I cannot figure this out. I am not behind a firewall
or proxy, all settings are correct as I am emailing
from the system right now through a web browser. I can
ftp from the command line as well.

My network settings are correct.

Would I be best sorting out why these don't work or
just getting a mirror list. If mirrors are the way
forward, please can I have a link to somewhere that I
can read to tell me about adding a security update
medium.

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Re: [newbie] i586 v's i686

2005-03-24 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Pete Moscatt wrote:
What's the difference between i585 and i686 which I see in some of the filename 
of
some RPM's ?
Pete
Well, assuming that i585 is a typo, and shoud be i586, the it is the 
processor the RPM is optimised for. A i586 will run on a Pemtium (or 
equivelent) and newer processor, but an i686 requires a Pentium II or 
newer. There are also i486, k6 and athlon RPMs, but you don't see them 
as often. i386 are the most common type, and will run on anyting from a 
386 to a P4. There are two places where using software optimised for a 
specific processor pay off the most. The kernel, and the glibc libraries.

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Re: [newbie] Security updates for new MD10.1

2005-03-24 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 24 Mar 2005 17:50, DAN WALKER wrote:
 Please excuse my newness...

 I tried to do the updates for my i686 machine, but it
 says that the website is uncontactable. Where can I
 find a list of update mirrors. I have googled but can
 not find any.

Hi, Dan.  Open Mandrake Control Center, Software Management, Media Manager and 
remove the Update source.  Then go to easyurpmi.zarb.org and follow the 
instructions on that page to set new sources.  While you are there, set up a 
source for plf, and I would recommend setting one for every group on there.  
You can select them all at once, then the page will come back with a long 
command that you paste into a root console.  You should have no problems 
after that.

If you don't know unix-style cut-and-paste, ask here.

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Re: [newbie] win4lin

2005-03-24 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Thursday 24 March 2005 15:32, Christophe wrote:
 Hello,
 Since I can not watch dvds on my laptop ( and I tried...) and I need
 Asymetrix Toolbook to create educational material.
 How can I install win 98 ( I have the cd for it) on my machine who is
 completely dedicated to MDK 10.1 community.
 I saw a win4lin kernel, what is the purpose of it?
 Is it easy to install windows under MDK when you have one 60 GB HD on a
 acer Aspire 1680 notebook?
 I'm sorry to do that but I have to work too :-D  ...from time to time!
 Thank you
 Christophe

Cristophe,
Take into account that: if MDK doesn't see your DVD drive then win4lin will 
not see it either!! 
Your best bet is to get your DVD working or...install Windows on it's own 
partition and double-boot.

Adding windows is no big deal except that it'll(windows)  want to use your 
first partitionwhich is prolly taken by Linux.

Tell us what's wrong with your DVD player i.e. exactly what you think is not 
working so we can help you fix it. AFAIK acers don't have very exotic 
DVD-players so we should get it working and that way it'll work on win4lin 
too. Saving you the new Windows install humbug:)
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Re: [newbie] Which Kernel For 10.1 ?

2005-03-24 Thread Margot
Mr. Geek wrote:
Pete Moscatt wrote:
Thanks Mr Geek (I like the name...),

Pete

Nice of you to notice. I got fed up with being called a 'Geek' all the 
time, so I decided to add the 'Mr' in the hopes it might make people 
respect me more.

Unfortunately, it hasn't helped much, but at least it brings a smile to 
a few faces now and then! Sigh. Besides, it's like they say,when 
you're this old, they call you Mister! Grin!

I like your real name better, though ;-)
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[newbie] PC-to-Phone Rates

2005-03-24 Thread Pablo Ortuzar
Hello,

Skype and Gnomeeting PC-to-Phone rates can be compared here:

http://www.skype.com/products/skypeout/rates/

http://www.diamondcard.us/exec/voip-rep-acc-type
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Re: [newbie] Security updates for new MD10.1

2005-03-24 Thread DAN WALKER
That worked a treat. Thank you very much. I can't
believe that this is not documented and easy to find
somewhere. I looked all over the place but found the
answer here thanks to you, anne.

Cheers,
Dan

--- Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thursday 24 Mar 2005 17:50, DAN WALKER wrote:
  Please excuse my newness...
 
  I tried to do the updates for my i686 machine, but
 it
  says that the website is uncontactable. Where can
 I
  find a list of update mirrors. I have googled but
 can
  not find any.
 
 Hi, Dan.  Open Mandrake Control Center, Software
 Management, Media Manager and 
 remove the Update source.  Then go to
 easyurpmi.zarb.org and follow the 
 instructions on that page to set new sources.  While
 you are there, set up a 
 source for plf, and I would recommend setting one
 for every group on there.  
 You can select them all at once, then the page will
 come back with a long 
 command that you paste into a root console.  You
 should have no problems 
 after that.
 
 If you don't know unix-style cut-and-paste, ask
 here.
 
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[newbie] Learning Mandrake in the UK

2005-03-24 Thread DAN WALKER
Are there any good reasonable priced courses, books or
similar in the UK that I may attend? I want to learn
how to run this thing. I am using it as a web server.
I want to know all about setting the security up,
making my machine hard to hack etc. It is connected to
a 34Mbit connection to the net so someone would love
to abuse it. 

Thanks
Dan

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Re: [newbie] Learning Mandrake in the UK

2005-03-24 Thread Aron Smith
On Thursday 24 March 2005 04:07 pm, DAN WALKER wrote:
 Are there any good reasonable priced courses, books or
 similar in the UK that I may attend? I want to learn
 how to run this thing. I am using it as a web server.
 I want to know all about setting the security up,
 making my machine hard to hack etc. It is connected to
 a 34Mbit connection to the net so someone would love
 to abuse it.

 Thanks
 Dan
Do you have rute
urpmi rute
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[newbie] Firefox not playing nice with slashdot

2005-03-24 Thread Aron Smith
Firefox will not open a link on slashdot
has anyone else had this problem
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Re: [newbie] Learning Mandrake in the UK

2005-03-24 Thread Margot
DAN WALKER wrote:
Are there any good reasonable priced courses, books or
similar in the UK that I may attend? I want to learn
how to run this thing. I am using it as a web server.
I want to know all about setting the security up,
making my machine hard to hack etc. It is connected to
a 34Mbit connection to the net so someone would love
to abuse it. 

Thanks
Dan
You didn't say where you are in the UK, but have a look here and see if 
there's a LUG near you:

http://www.lug.org.uk/lugs/index.php
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Re: [newbie] Missing file using Wine

2005-03-24 Thread RickSisler
Cameron MacDonald ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 Dennis Myers wrote:
 On Wednesday 23 March 2005 08:18 pm, Cameron MacDonald wrote:
 I'm trying to use a text/graphics database program for automotive
 waveforms called Aeswave. Since it is for Windows I'm using Wine to
 run it. I had no trouble installing it (Thank you , Wine!), but when
 I run Aeswave, it tells me  I'm missing ddeml.dll. I found a
 ddeml.dll.so in /usr/lib/wine, and copied it to
 file:/home/cam/.wine/drive_c/aeswave, but that didn't do squat.
 Being a true newbie, I'm not sure where this file should go, or what
 the .so means.
 Thanks in advance for any help
[.snip.]
 In the meantime, i found out that .so means a shared file. But
 that still doesn't explain why it is not being seen.

 Cam
Hi,
I think you've got a wine *builtin dll file and it shouldn't be
necessary to move it anywhere other than where it is.
try this .. add a config option for aeswave in the ~/.wine/config file
Put the correct executable filename for Aeswave.exe or whatever,
and chose an appropriate windows version [ win2k or winxp ]

;Windows version
[AppDefaults\\Aeswave.exe\\Version]
Windows = win2k
[AppDefaults\\Aeswave.exe\\DllOverrides]
*Aeswave.exe = builtin, native

This may help ?? I hope ;)

Also try WINEDEBUG .. it may help get more info ..

$ WINEDEBUG=+loaddll  wine path/to/Aeswave.exe

Have a look here too:
http://www.winehq.org/site/docs/wine-user/index

http://www.winehq.org/site/docs/wine-user/config-dll

http://www.winehq.org/site/helping-applications
http://frankscorner.org/

Thats about as far as i got in configuration of wine
but maybe ask the wine mailing list or google for more ..

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[newbie] configuring advx (apache) on Mandrake

2005-03-24 Thread Joe
Dear all,

is there anyway i can configure ADVX on Mandrake easily without going
through it's many conf files and without using webmin?

is there a gui based, wizard based or something??? 

i have a problem setting up vitual host (name host not ip host). i
downloaded apache docs but unfortunately Mandrake uses the modified
version of apache which left me hanging like a dry leave.

May I make some suggestions to all nice developers out there who
sacrifice their time to OpenSource software...

1. At the same time during development, create an easy to read and
follow on how to set up and use the particular software for beginners.
2. Create a wizard systen or step-step procedure to set up the
software. Just a basic setup will do. For advance settings, users
should read the manual and tinker with the conf file themselves.


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server, and install Windows XP. Reasons, except to type letters 
browse the net, users unable to modified certain settings because it's
hard to do so and there's no easy way to do it. i am sad but passe is
passe.

Thanks

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Re: [newbie] configuring advx (apache) on Mandrake

2005-03-24 Thread Greg Meyer
On Thursday 24 March 2005 09:45 pm, Joe wrote:
 Dear all,

 is there anyway i can configure ADVX on Mandrake easily without going
 through it's many conf files and without using webmin?

 is there a gui based, wizard based or something???

There are server setup wizards in the Mandrake Control Center if you have them 
installed, I think the package name is drakwizard.

 i have a problem setting up vitual host (name host not ip host). i
 downloaded apache docs but unfortunately Mandrake uses the modified
 version of apache which left me hanging like a dry leave.

 May I make some suggestions to all nice developers out there who
 sacrifice their time to OpenSource software...

 1. At the same time during development, create an easy to read and
 follow on how to set up and use the particular software for beginners.

Sorry, in my experience it is impossible for developers to do this, most just 
don't have the skill.  This kind of documentation requires somebody with 
excellent writing skills to learn the software and then sit with someone that 
doesn't know it to determine what is important to be documented.  A time 
consuming and laborious task.  You are asking for a lot.

 2. Create a wizard systen or step-step procedure to set up the
 software. Just a basic setup will do. For advance settings, users
 should read the manual and tinker with the conf file themselves.

Well, setting up virtual hosts is a pretty advanced usage of apache, so what 
you are asking is kind of difficult.  In my experience, the default config 
files in mdk rarely have to be touched for basic setup.  It's only the 
advanced stuff that requires editing config files.   Isn't that what you are 
asking for.

 about a week ago, exactly 40 days after I installed Mandrake Linux on
 all this small office PC, they asked me to removed Mandrake, except
 server, and install Windows XP. Reasons, except to type letters 
 browse the net, users unable to modified certain settings because it's
 hard to do so and there's no easy way to do it. i am sad but passe is
 passe.

Well, that sounds suspiciously like they didn't want Mandrake to begin with 
and let you install it as an experiment, and they were just looking for an 
excuse to make you take it off.  I can't think of what settings office 
personnel should need easy access to if the machines are set up properly to 
begin with, and for those I can think of, if you know where to go, it is 
easy, but maybe not familiar, so perhaps training and expectations was the 
falldown here, not ease of use.

You should give some specific examples, because I am sure the people on this 
list could deconstruct them all for you very quickly.

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Re: [newbie] Firefox not playing nice with slashdot

2005-03-24 Thread Marek Pawinski
Aron Smith wrote:
Firefox will not open a link on slashdot
has anyone else had this problem
other sites seem to be ok
Using Firefox 1.0.2 at the moment and links seem to open ok.

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Re: [newbie] Firefox not playing nice with slashdot

2005-03-24 Thread Paul
Op Thu, 24 Mar 2005 16:35:23 -0800 schreef Aron Smith:

Firefox will not open a link on slashdot
has anyone else had this problem
other sites seem to be ok

Running 1.0.0. and I have no problems with it.  ??

Paul

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[newbie] Assistance from newbies needed

2005-03-24 Thread rikona
Hello newbies,

I'd appreciate comments regarding the utility of the following:

http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/EmerGencies

Is it helpful? Is it understandable? What else would be most helpful
to a newcomer? [given the VERY limited space available] What do you
think?

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Re: [newbie] Firefox not playing nice with slashdot

2005-03-24 Thread Aron Smith
On Thursday 24 March 2005 09:40 pm, Paul wrote:
 Op Thu, 24 Mar 2005 16:35:23 -0800 schreef Aron Smith:
 Firefox will not open a link on slashdot
 has anyone else had this problem
 other sites seem to be ok

 Running 1.0.0. and I have no problems with it.  ??
That's what I'm running ..strange

 Paul


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