Re: [newbie] [Newbie] No control centre
Les Thomas wrote: I have mandrake 10.1 , some how the control centre has dissapeared , I must have done something to either hide it or delte it . I think it must be deactivated but dont know where to look or how to get it back up Les Which control centre is missing? Mandrake control centre, or the one for KDE? Is it just missing from your menus? Can you call it up from a terminal? Please try from a terminal - if it doesn't work, please tell us what error message you get. -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Thunderbird on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Community) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-24mdk ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] [Newbie] No control centre
LES wrote: On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 19:49, Margot wrote: Les Thomas wrote: I have mandrake 10.1 , some how the control centre has dissapeared , I must have done something to either hide it or delte it . I think it must be deactivated but dont know where to look or how to get it back up Les Which control centre is missing? Mandrake control centre, or the one for KDE? Is it just missing from your menus? Can you call it up from a terminal? Please try from a terminal - if it doesn't work, please tell us what error message you get. Mandrake control centre is missing , I may not be doing it right , but I cant access it from the terminal , I have tried to run it from the run command and nothing . I thought it would start if I just entered MCC in the terminal window , but obviously I´m wrong From a terminal, the command is mcc, not MCC. If you do it from a user terminal, you will be asked for the root password. Please do it from a proper terminal window, not the run command feature - so, if it doesn't work, we can see what error message you get. -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Thunderbird on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Community) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-24mdk ~~~ Humor in the Court: Q: Are you sexually active? A: No, I just lie there. ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Strange thing when I try to make urpmi.update
Anders Lind wrote: Hello friends, I am experiencing a very weird thing when I try to make urpmi.update, because I am at work I cannot make an update with the CD's in the drive, anyway, I have commented those rows out and just have Charles site left as a media, but when I do the urpmi.update I get the errormessage: The entry to update is missing (one of eslrahc) but it is present in urpmi.cfg and also there is no problem using the urpmi-command. I am stumped /Anders You can't just do urpmi.update - you have to tell it *what* to update. Either urpmi.update -a (which will update all the media you have enabled), or urpmi.update eslrahc (which will update only the medium named eslrahc) -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Thunderbird on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Community) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-24mdk ~~~ That's no moon... -- Obi-wan Kenobi ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: Adobe Acrobat Spying on Users (Re: [newbie] Adobe Reader
Stephen Kühn wrote: On Sun, 2005-04-03 at 10:25, Derek Jennings wrote: I gave up spying on you when you started sitting at your terminal naked. Now if only Anne and Margot would stop... Sorry, I can't stop - I'd have to *start* first ;-) -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Thunderbird on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Community) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-24mdk ~~~ His eyes seemed to be popping out of his head. He wasn't certain if this was because they were trying to see more clearly, or if they simply wanted to leave at this point. -- Arthur trying to see who had diverted him from going to a party. ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Failed Install
Mr. Geek wrote: Aron Smith wrote: Ok I tried Mdk 10.2RC2 mini no joy then I tried 10.1 community no joy (used for a previous install) then I tried the 2 CD set from linux Journal no joy the message is the same in all cases -- failed to load `/mnt/tmp/drakX-images/01.png : fatal error in png image file iDAT :CRC error You know Aron, you shouldn't see this as a personal failure. Lots of people fail to install and they still manage to cope with day-to-day life and ,OH! Sorry! I accidentally posted this to the wrong list! It was intended for the Microsoft Users Group! My apologies! Damn Outlook Express! Grrr! You're a day late - April Fools Day was yesterday! At least...I *hope* you were joking ;-) -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Thunderbird on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Community) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-24mdk ~~~ REST: P: Linus Torvalds S: Buried alive in email -- from /usr/src/linux/MAINTAINERS ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] To Twiki Editors, Welcome to Newbie Manager and List-Members.
, and if they think newsletters (or something else) would be a good idea, etc. Just my thoughts... -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Thunderbird on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Community) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-24mdk ~~~ Both models are identical in performance, functional operation, and interface circuit details. The two models, however, are not compatible on the same communications line connection. -- Bell System Technical Reference ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Which Kernel For 10.1 ?
Mr. Geek wrote: Pete Moscatt wrote: Thanks Mr Geek (I like the name...), Pete Nice of you to notice. I got fed up with being called a 'Geek' all the time, so I decided to add the 'Mr' in the hopes it might make people respect me more. Unfortunately, it hasn't helped much, but at least it brings a smile to a few faces now and then! Sigh. Besides, it's like they say,when you're this old, they call you Mister! Grin! I like your real name better, though ;-) -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Thunderbird on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Community) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-24mdk ~~~ You will always get the greatest recognition for the job you least like. ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Learning Mandrake in the UK
DAN WALKER wrote: Are there any good reasonable priced courses, books or similar in the UK that I may attend? I want to learn how to run this thing. I am using it as a web server. I want to know all about setting the security up, making my machine hard to hack etc. It is connected to a 34Mbit connection to the net so someone would love to abuse it. Thanks Dan You didn't say where you are in the UK, but have a look here and see if there's a LUG near you: http://www.lug.org.uk/lugs/index.php -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Thunderbird on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Community) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-24mdk ~~~ It is far more impressive when others discover your good qualities without your help. -- Miss Manners ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Minimal install
Aron Smith wrote: What would the minium package needed to get Mandrake up and running so you could use urpmi to complete the installation? could it possibly be as small as i cd? A mini-iso for 10.2 is available, which looks like it will take about half a CD: http://anorien.csc.warwick.ac.uk/mirrors/Mandrakelinux/devel/iso/10.2/i586/ (and presumably on other cooker mirrors too) I haven't tried it myself, but I assume it must contain urpmi so you can then download the rest of what you need. Bear in mind that this is *cooker*, so there may well be problems! -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Thunderbird on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Community) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-24mdk ~~~ It's ten o'clock; do you know where your processes are? ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] connecting camera using the PTP protocol
Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: Lastly, I'd recommend getting the latest packages for Digikam. The ones with the distro are fairly old, and it sometimes helps. I'm running digikam-0.7.1-1tex.i586.rpm. Anne Okay - thought I would do that. Tried urpmi but it wouldn't do it. Can't remember speciafically the message. It was about updating I think - so did the update. [EMAIL PROTECTED] rosemary]# urpmi digikam-0.7.1-1tex.i586 urpmi database locked If your urpmi database is locked, which often happens after a failed or interrupted download/installation, as root in terminal: rm /var/lib/urpmi/.LOCK and rm /var/lib/urpmi/.RPMLOCK -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Thunderbird on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Community) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-24mdk ~~~ Clique Maintenance: The need of one generation to see the generation following it as deficient so as to bolster its own collective ego: Kids today do nothing. They're so apathetic. We used to go out and protest. All they do is shop and complain. -- Douglas Coupland, Generation X: Tales for an Accelerated Culture ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi database blocked
Tahir Abdullah wrote: Thanks Aron When I tried to follow the three steps on the web-site following error comes urpmi database locked WHat is this problem. This usually happens after failed or interrupted download/installation. To cure it, as root in terminal: rm /var/lib/urpmi/.LOCK and rm /var/lib/urpmi/.RPMLOCK -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Thunderbird on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Community) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-24mdk ~~~ Chism's Law of Completion: The amount of time required to complete a government project is precisely equal to the length of time already spent on it. ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] scribus users, pls help. pasting text longer than 1 page.
Fajar Priyanto wrote: Hi all, I tried to make an article using Scribus. First I typed the article in text editor, then copy paste it in scribus. The article is kind of longer than 1 page, so the rest of the article isn't visible. The second page is blank. Can I make scribus to automatically put the rest of the article in the second page? Thanks. Yes, you can. Make a text frame on your second page, link the two text frames, and the invisible text will automatically flow into the second text frame. -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Thunderbird on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Community) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-24mdk ~~~ Power Mist: The tendency of hierarchies in office environments to be diffuse and preclude crisp articulation. - Douglas Coupland, Generation X: Tales for an Accelerated Culture ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] scribus users, pls help. pasting text longer than 1 page.
Anne Wilson wrote: On Wednesday 09 Mar 2005 14:07, Margot wrote: If you know in advance the the text won't fit in one frame: Create the first text frame, create the second text frame, select the first frame, click the toolbar button marked Link Text Frames, click into the second frame to create the link, go back to the first frame and use the Story Editor to place the text into the frame and it will automatically flow the text from one frame to the next. If you have text already in a frame, but not enough space so part of the text is invisible: Create a second frame, select the first frame, click the toolbar button marked Link Text Frames, click into the second frame to create the link and the remaining text will automatically appear in the new frame. Linked frames are outlined in red, and there will be a cross in a box at the bottom right of the last frame in a series if there is still some text that is not yet visible. Oops! For some reason I'm totally text-oriented, so I look at menus and context-menus but miss icons! I should have seen that. Thanks Anne I've only been playing with Scribus for 2 days - linking text frames is about all I've managed to work out so far! I'll be back with some questions soon...! -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Thunderbird on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Community) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-24mdk ~~~ Thank God a million billion times you live in Texas. ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Microsoft overrules EU Council
Isaac Hummel wrote: Duncan Anderson wrote: Huh, this is the kind of dictatorial fascism that Europe is so good at. They have proved it over and over again in the past, so why should this be any different? Greed rather than justice, for ever! Bunch of Nazis! http://catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/G/Godwins-Law.html Anyone wishing to continue the discussion can do so on the Off-Topic list. -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Thunderbird on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Community) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-24mdk ~~~ The sweeter the apple, the blacker the core -- Scratch a lover and find a foe! -- Dorothy Parker, Ballad of a Great Weariness ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi --fuzzy downloads without asking!
JR wrote: when I do urpmi --fuzzy package, it sometimes downloads the package anyway, without giving me a choice. Am I misunderstanding this switch? I expected to be asked regardless how many similar packages there were (even if there was only one) Jarlath urpmi --fuzzy package *does* automatically download the package if there is only one matching. If you only want to see what is available, but not download, you should use urpmq --fuzzy package -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Thunderbird on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Community) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-24mdk ~~~ Humor in the Court: Q: ...and what did he do then? A: He came home, and next morning he was dead. Q: So when he woke up the next morning he was dead? ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] any question
Mr. Geek wrote: Chuck MATTSEN wrote: On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 23:20:28 -0500 Mr. Geek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which brings up the question on every perverts mind - I wonder if someone is building an XXX-rated distro of Linux yet? LinuXXX? Hmmm - That could work! We could even add videos of Pamela Anderson, and, Ah, No, everyone's seen those. Sinux? This one wouldn't work well. Some Microsoft geek would turn it into S-UX or something. Either that or they'd confuse it with a cold remedy. I like your first one better. A linux distro that is also a cold remedy? I'd actually be prepared to *pay* for one of those! (Now, where did I put that box of tissues? Sneeze) -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Thunderbird on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Community) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-24mdk ~~~ The truth about a woman often lasts longer than the woman is true. ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Quotas :o(
Ken Walker wrote: So your saying that everybody in newbie is also in expert and everybody in expert is also in newbie, so why are there two different groups. Why not just have one called mandrake-users Isn't it better to ask all groups relative to the same subject the same question, just in case one of those members, who might not be in the other groups, knows the answer. I'm afraid I know nothing of quotas, so I can't answer your original question, but there is a *very* good reason for not cross-posting the same message to both the newbie and expert lists...Sympa (the mandrake mailing list handler) cannot cope with cross-posting so, instead of one copy of your message going to the newbie list and one to the expert list, BOTH copies reached the newbie list! I suggest you try a new message to the expert list, where someone may be able to help you. -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Thunderbird on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Community) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-24mdk ~~~ Every silver lining has a cloud around it. ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] any question
Chuck MATTSEN wrote: On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 15:34:55 +0100 Stefan Tulak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've installed mandrakelinux for one month and I'm very pleasured. ^^ Now /there's/ a thread for the Off-Topic list if I've ever seen one. Do you own any goats? You don't actually have to *own* goats to join the OT list, but it helps if you enjoy their company ;-) -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Thunderbird on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Community) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-24mdk ~~~ What is tolerance? -- it is the consequence of humanity. We are all formed of frailty and error; let us pardon reciprocally each other's folly -- that is the first law of nature. - Voltaire ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Xfce4 user login broken
When I try to login to Xfce4 as user, either from the login manager or by using 'startxfce4' from a terminal, I get a few seconds of the Xfce 'mouse' (or is it meant to be a rat?) logo flashing, and then I just get the blue screen with the Mandrake logo. As normal user, I can log into KDE with no problem - but I'd rather not have to! Doing 'startxfce4' as root works fine - but of course I'm then logged in as root! Because it works as root but not as a normal user, and KDE is not affected, I assume that it is something in my Xfce user config that is broken, not Xfce itself. I'm sure there must be some way to fix this, but I'm not sure where to start. Everything was fine yesterday, but not working when I rebooted this morning. [I blame the cat - attempting sneaky overnight downloads of 'kitty porn' must have corrupted a file somewhere!] -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Mozilla on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Community) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-24mdk ~~~ Monotheism is a gift from the gods. ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Xfce4 user login broken
Stephen Kühn wrote: On Mon, 2005-02-21 at 06:47, Margot wrote: When I try to login to Xfce4 as user, either from the login manager or by using 'startxfce4' from a terminal, I get a few seconds of the Xfce 'mouse' (or is it meant to be a rat?) logo flashing, and then I just get the blue screen with the Mandrake logo. As normal user, I can log into KDE with no problem - but I'd rather not have to! Doing 'startxfce4' as root works fine - but of course I'm then logged in as root! Because it works as root but not as a normal user, and KDE is not affected, I assume that it is something in my Xfce user config that is broken, not Xfce itself. I'm sure there must be some way to fix this, but I'm not sure where to start. Everything was fine yesterday, but not working when I rebooted this morning. [I blame the cat - attempting sneaky overnight downloads of 'kitty porn' must have corrupted a file somewhere!] Margot, Login as root, cd into your USER home dir, rename the .cache directory, then logoff, and try logging in again with XFce... Thanks, Stephen, that did the trick - all back to normal now! -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Mozilla on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Community) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-24mdk ~~~ For a young man, not yet: for an old man, never at all. -- Diogenes, asked when a man should marry ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Xfce4 user login broken
Michel Leunen wrote: Margot wrote: When I try to login to Xfce4 as user, either from the login manager or by using 'startxfce4' from a terminal, I get a few seconds of the Xfce 'mouse' (or is it meant to be a rat?) logo flashing, and then I just get the blue screen with the Mandrake logo. Everything was fine yesterday, but not working when I rebooted this morning. Just a guess. In the meantime didn't you change the ~/.config/xfce4/initrc file? I just had the same behavior with a wrong initrc. To test, just rename initrc and launch xfce without it. It must start without a glitch. Michel Michel, Thanks for your response. Couldn't find the file you mentioned - deleted by cat, perhaps? Anyway, Stephen's solution fixed the problem. -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Mozilla on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Community) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-24mdk ~~~ For a young man, not yet: for an old man, never at all. -- Diogenes, asked when a man should marry ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Xfce4 user login broken
Mr. Geek wrote: Margot wrote: [I blame the cat - attempting sneaky overnight downloads of 'kitty porn' must have corrupted a file somewhere!] Margot; Maybe the cat and the kitty-porn scared the XFCE Mouse into shock? BTW, How's Rival, Felix, Simone, the goat and the duck? BTW, Was the boxing match that bad? Mr. Geek Registered Linux User #190712 I recognise that Linux User number! Trying to sneak up on me by using a different email address? Naughty! ;-) -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Mozilla on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Community) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-24mdk ~~~ For a young man, not yet: for an old man, never at all. -- Diogenes, asked when a man should marry ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Task Manager
Angus Auld wrote: - Original Message - From: Dan Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Subject: Re: [newbie] Task Manager Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 20:28:00 -0500 On February 8, 2005 10:03 pm, Fernando Arturo Gómez Flores wrote: As a old Windows user, I find really useful the Windows' Task Manager utility, where I can close applications, check resources, etc. I actually don't know if there is a similar application already developed, but I'm willing to make one, based on the /proc files and kernel stuff. However, this email is for asking if some already knows of an application as the Task manager, so I don't waste time programming such application... I like gnome-system-monitor although I am sure there are others as well. Regards, Dan Gordon ** Start System Monitoring KDE System Guard..for us KDE users. :-) --Angus For those NOT using the KDE desktop, the same utility is available by using the command ksysguard in a terminal - do it from a root terminal if you want to be able to kill processes started by root. -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Mozilla on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Community) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-24mdk ~~~ The power to destroy a planet is insignificant when compared to the power of the Force. - Darth Vader ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] To Chris Lane
Julie Sloan wrote: JoeHill wrote: On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 12:24:27 -0500 Carroll Grigsby disseminated the following: Don't the list rules require that Mr. Lane send a case of good stuff to each of who received an out-of-office message? Case? I'm thinkin' Zip-Loc bag, but that's just me... It's just me too... A decent sized case will contain several bags...enough for all of us ;-) -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Mozilla on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Community) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-24mdk ~~~ I have always noticed that whenever a radical takes to Imperialism, he catches it in a very acute form. -- Winston Churchill, 1903 ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] locked directory
Julie Sloan wrote: -Original Message- From: Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jan 25, 2005 5:31 PM To: Julie Sloan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] locked directory On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 20:19, Julie Sloan wrote: suddenly I have a padlock icon on my/root directory. The contents of the directory are as follows: # ls -a big snip I've looked in the MCC/security (I'm on Mandrake 10.0, running the KDE desktop environment) and find the permissions on the locked /root are 700 and I can't change them; my security level is (was) set at 2 with all defaults. 'nother big snip Help? Julie You are looking as root, aren't you? Yes I am. Can't get into the MCC other than as root. Julie But are you looking at the /root directory as root? if you are logged in as a normal user, you have to become root in order to use the root directory. Do kdesu konqueror (without the quotes) from a command line, give root's password, and you should get access. -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Mozilla on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Community) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-20mdk ~~~ Do not use the blue keys on this terminal. ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Modifying the KDE menu
Lanman wrote: Hi Gang. I've been trying to find out how to permanently modify the KDE3.2 and 3.3 menus and I'm not getting anywhere. For instance, if I add/delete entries in the KDE menu using menudrake, (selecting the System Menu option), those changes are saved, however, as soon as I re-open menudrake, it reloads the default menu and I have to start all over again. KDE also provides it's own menu editor (kmenu) in KControl, but it does the same thing, except it does it only for the current user. It also reloads the default menu when it's launched again. On the other hand, KDE's kiosktool is a bit more radical than I'd prefer to use. Can someone shed a bit of light on this? I haven't been able to find a way to make my menu changes permanent or in other words how to make my revised menu the default for all users, even after I re-start menudrake. Any help would be appreciated, since I can't seem to find anything on Google that helps. Did you remember to run update-menus -v as root, after installing or uninstalling software and before running menudrake? Or, update-menus -n if you're not interested in seeing the output, but as you're having problems the -v option would probably be more useful. Also, in menudrake, select Menu Style and choose the Original menus (the bottom option on the list) - I've never managed to get any of the other styles to work! Or, for a more radical solution, abandon KDE, use Xfce instead, and add Trigger Launchers to the panel for the applications that you need to use regularly. -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Mozilla on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Community) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-20mdk ~~~ I argue very well. Ask any of my remaining friends. I can win an argument on any topic, against any opponent. People know this, and steer clear of me at parties. Often, as a sign of their great respect, they don't even invite me. -- Dave Barry ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems
Julie Sloan wrote: BTW I've located my mailboxes - all with weird names but oh well, I can get the data out of them now - - but where is my KMail addresbook? All I've found so far is recently used addresses, which is nicely more than I had a few hours ago but still not the entire mailing list, not to mention the individual information I had stashed on each card. Julie, I suggest you start new threads for each new problem you encounter - I can't help with Kmail addressbook as I've never used Kmail, and I don't even use KDE - but if you start a thread marked lost Kmail addressbook I'm sure that someone here will be able to help you find it. -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Mozilla on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Community) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-20mdk ~~~ The two most common things in the Universe are hydrogen and stupidity. -- Harlan Ellison ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] help
dave needham wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] id1davewp]$ su Password: [EMAIL PROTECTED] id1davewp]# urpmi.removemedia the entry to remove is missing (one of update_source, Installation DVD (cdrom1)) [EMAIL PROTECTED] id1davewp]# urpmi.removemedia the entry to remove is missing (one of update_source, Installation DVD (cdrom1)) [EMAIL PROTECTED] id1davewp]# urpmi.removemedia the entry to remove is missing (one of update_source, Installation DVD (cdrom1)) [EMAIL PROTECTED] id1davewp]# please help.not sure what whent wrong... dave Dave, What's wrong is that you aren't telling it *what* to remove! There is no need to remove your existing media, but, if you are really sure that you want to, these are the correct commands: urpmi.removemedia -a (will remove all existing media) or urpmi.removemedia xyz (will remove a single medium named xyz - you have to supply the correct name!) -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Mozilla on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Community) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-20mdk ~~~ We may not return the affection of those who like us, but we always respect their good judgement. ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems
Lanman wrote: Damn Stephen! Did you have to list every one of our flaws? There's honesty and then there's Brutal honesty! Nest thing you know, women will be dating their hard drives, Sigh! Well, maybe I can just increase my support contracts instead! Grin! Way to go! Now the secret's out of the bag! snicker Can I sign up for a 'support contract'? I'm afraid I can't afford to pay in *cash*...but I can't afford a bigger hard drive either! ;-) -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Mozilla on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Community) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-20mdk ~~~ The sum of the intelligence of the world is constant. The population is, of course, growing. ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems
Stephen Kühn wrote: On Sun, 2005-01-23 at 09:42, Julie Sloan wrote: Goats are accepted in lieu of cash, Margot. Pssst, Margot - - my nextdoor neightbors are raising goats and wouldn't miss a couple! J Goat steak, goat stew, goat pie, goat cheese, goat ala mode, goat ala carte, goat burgers, goat kebabs, goat gyros, goat sausages, goat patties, goat casserole...the list goes on. My barbie is primed up and ready. Nooo! I think we'd better transfer any further 'goat' discussion to the OT list... -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Mozilla on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Community) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-20mdk ~~~ We all agree on the necessity of compromise. We just can't agree on when it's necessary to compromise. -- Larry Wall ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems
Julie Sloan wrote: Stephen Kühn wrote: On Sun, 2005-01-23 at 09:18, Margot wrote: Can I sign up for a 'support contract'? Goats are accepted in lieu of cash, Margot. Pssst, Margot - - my nextdoor neightbors are raising goats and wouldn't miss a couple! J Please send 2 nice goats direct to Lanman - it would be cruel to ship the poor creatures all the way to England and then all the way back to Canada! Thanks! -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Mozilla on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Community) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-20mdk ~~~ Conceit causes more conversation than wit. -- LaRouchefoucauld ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems
Julie Sloan wrote: Hi all - - I see this mentioned in the Cooker archives, May and December 2003, but if someone also posted a solution I either missed it or am too dense to recognize it for what it is. FWIW the archive subject lines are: [Cooker] urpmi bug or not? (probably something with virtual packages...) and [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] arts-1.1.2-2mdk A couple days ago I commenced my first large update; also my first time using urpmi. With quite a bit of help on another forum, I worked through several problems, but now I seem stuck at: = kdebase is needed by krozat-10.1-3.1.101mdk kdebase = 3.1 is needed by kdenetwork-common-3.2.3-19.2.101mdk = So... now... should my next step be to locate download the kdebase and the kdebase =3.1, and if so, is there a particular download site that's recommended? I'm on Mandrake 10.1 thanks, Julie Julie, I think you're slightly misunderstanding the error messages. The first part tells you that krozat needs kdebase, but doesn't need any particular version of kdebase. The second part tells you that kdenetwork-common needs kdebase, and it must have a version of kdebase that is greater than or equal to 3.1 - so to satisfy the needs of both krozat and kdenetwork-common, you only need to have one kdebase package, but it must be = 3.1. First, check what version of kdebase you have installed - if any! Open the Mandrake Control Center, go to the Software Management section, select Remove (don't worry, we're not going to actually remove anything, but if something appears in the Remove list it must have been installed in the first place!), make sure the radio button for All packages, alphabetical is checked, then scroll down the list to see if there's a kdebase package. If there is, what is the exact version listed? Then, report back here... Mine says kdebase-3.2.3-134.4.101mdk - yours, if you have one at all, might be different but should be in the same format. On another list you mentioned that you bought the Mandrake CDs last summer - as 10.1 didn't exist then, are the CDs for 10.0? Because you now say you're running 10.1 - did you just install 10.0 from the CDs and then set your urpmi sources for version 10.1? This would account for the huge volume of updates you've been getting, and might also explain some of the problems you've been having. -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Mozilla on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Community) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-20mdk ~~~ Learning French is trivial: the word for horse is cheval, and everything else follows in the same way. -- Alan J. Perlis ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems
Julie Sloan wrote: Margot wrote: First, check what version of kdebase you have installed - if any! Open the Mandrake Control Center, Unable to run the command specified. The file or folder file:/usr/share/applnk-mdk/System/Configuration/Configure your computer.desktop does not exist. Then, report back here... ok... $ locate kdebase /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kdebase-common-3.2.3-134.4.101mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libkdebase4-3.2.3-134.4.101mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libkdebase4-konsole-3.2.3-134.4.101mdk.i586.rpm /usr/share/doc/HTML/en/kdebase-3.2-apidocs /usr/share/doc/HTML/en/kdebase-3.2-apidocs/common /usr/share/doc/HTML/en_GB/khelpcenter/userguide/kdebase-apps.docbook /usr/share/locale/en_GB/LC_MESSAGES/desktop_kdebase.mo /usr/lib/menu/simplified/kdebase-basedir ...and then a bunch in the /usr/lib/menu directory Mine says kdebase-3.2.3-134.4.101mdk - yours, if you have one at all, might be different but should be in the same format. On another list you mentioned that you bought the Mandrake CDs last summer - as 10.1 didn't exist then, are the CDs for 10.0? Because you now say you're running 10.1 - did you just install 10.0 from the CDs and then set your urpmi sources for version 10.1? This would account for the huge volume of updates you've been getting, and might also explain some of the problems you've been having. Aha. Yes. Oops. Help? Julie OK Julie, decision time! You have vital parts of Mandrake missing (Mandrake Control Center) as well as vital parts of KDE. You can go one of 2 ways: - Complete reinstall of 10.0 from the CDs (wipe out absolutely everything!), set urpmi sources for 10.0 and end up with a working, fully-updated 10.0 system - this is the easy option! - Continue with 10.1, searching for vital parts and installing them manually, and tweaking the configuration gradually as you go - this will be a lot of hard work, but a good learning experience! Have a think, work out how brave you're feeling, and let us know. -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Mozilla on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Community) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-20mdk ~~~ The worst thing one can do is not to try, to be aware of what one wants and not give in to it, to spend years in silent hurt wondering if something could have materialized -- and never knowing. -- David Viscott ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Anyone using KDar
Anne Wilson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 15 Jan 2005 09:55, Dick Gevers wrote: On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:09:55 +, Dick Gevers wrote about Re: [newbie] Anyone using KDar: On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:31:34 +, Anne Wilson wrote about Re: [newbie] Does it work OK with DVD-RW, Dick? It should, but I have no way to tell as I have no such hardware. I assume it does, if you'll bear the same in mind as I reported in the bugs above. I realized only much later: your question seems to imply that Kdar would actually write to CD or DVD. It doesn't. It creates an archive the size of any media (bearing in mind the bugs) and the archive should be burned to media by the user. So, my answer could also have been: It works with any media, but I haven't tried any larger than 703 Mb. Of course. The only time I tried to use DrakBackup I found that the problem was the need for space for a huge tar file, which I didn't have. I guess that KDar will have the same need. ATM I'm still manually copying files to CD or DVD with XCDRoast. I really must get a better way sorted - it's very inefficient. Anne I just had a look at KDar, and it seems to have all the features I need and it looks easy to use. I've been using DrakBackup until now, which was somewhat unwieldy, so I probably haven't been backing up as often as I ought to have been! At first glance, KDar has one enormous advantage over DrakBackup - it can be run by an ordinary user, whereas DrakBackup has to be run as root. I can understand why most of the Drak Drake functions need to be run as root - we don't want users messing with configuration options they might not understand - but backups? Surely we should be *encouraging* users to make backups, rather than preventing it? -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Mozilla on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Community) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-20mdk ~~~ I have a very small mind and must live with it. -- E. Dijkstra ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config resolv.config files
Angus Auld wrote: - Original Message - From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Subject: Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config resolv.config files Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 23:09:52 + On Saturday 08 January 2005 19:24, Angus Auld wrote: Greetings, I wonder if some kind soul here could instruct/inform me on how I can properly config these files?? What should they contain and how should they look on my 10.1 system? I just setup ADSL broadband, and I fear I messed things up a bit. ;-) My broadband is working OK, but my local hostname is now (none), as in #gus@(none) gus. I have been searching documentation and Google, but I'm still dumb on this (and lots of other stuff too). Help would be truly appreciated. Best regards. --Angus Your Host name is set up in the file /etc/sysconfig/network Add a line in the format HOSTNAME=your_host_name.localdomain (you can pick any name for your local domain, but do not use a Fully Qualified Domain Name unless you actually own it. I just use 'localdomain' in my network) The file /etc/hosts defines a lookup table to match IP addresses to hostnames. The only line that is essential in this table is 127.0.0.1 localhost If you are using static addressing in your network then you should provide a list of IP addresses in the network with their corresponding hostnames. You can have multiple hostnames per IP address. For example 192.168.1.1 your_host_name.localdomain server downstairs-computer /etc/resolv.conf defines how your computer will try to resolve IP addresses from hostnames. It should look somethng like search localdomain nameserver 192.168.1.251 This tells it to look in the local domain first, and then if the host is not present to ask the named DNS server. You should use the IP address of your ISPs DNS server, or a DNS proxy (ADSL routers usually operate as a DNS proxy) If you are using DHCP these settings will be automatically overridden by the DNS server. hosts.config is not familiar to me. I do not have that file. HTH derek * Thank you Derek for the reply. I am really new at this network stuff. :-) I have been using dial-up for all my years of computing, and I just started using braodband now that it has finally come here to the boonies. I edited some of the mentioned files, and my hostname is once again localhost. I changed my eth0: Broadcom Corp BCM4401 100Base-T connection to use DHCP Protocol, but now when I boot my comp, booting hangs at bringing up eth0 for a long while, and finally fails trying to determine IP configuration. :-( The part that puzzles me is that ppp0 comes up OK, and my connection is working great. What gives here anyway? Doesn't ppp0 use my Broadcom nic??? I am dazed and confused. [8/ Regards. --Angus I had the same problem - don't know what causes it, but the solution for me was to set the connection *not* to start at boot - once booted, open a terminal as root and do ifup eth0 (without the quotes) and everything works from then on. -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Mozilla on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Community) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-20mdk ~~~ The flush toilet is the basis of Western civilization. -- Alan Coult ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] You may want to update your urpmi database
Anne Wilson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 31 Dec 2004 14:52, Martin Hardie wrote: Paul and Anne ...retrieving failed: curl failed: exited with 9 or signal 0 what is the significance of these entries whichi have extraced from below: no hdlist file found for medium main no hdlist file found for medium main no hdlist file found for medium contrib It sounds to be in a real muddle. Here's what I would do. Open Mandrake Control Centre Software Management Media Manager and remove *all* your sources. If you are on dial-up, from a root console enter urpmi.addmedia --distrib cdrom removable://mnt/cdrom with CD1 in the drive. Skip this if you have broadband If you are on broadband go to http://www.urpmi-addmedia.org/index2.php and select sources from each group Whether on broadband or not, from that page you will want a plf source. Finally, follow Lanman's advice about adding your own rpm repository, and you should have a good working setup. When choosing your sources, from easyurpmi, bear time-zones in mind. If the mirror you choose is likely to be on a quiet phase at the time that you normally download that should give you a reaonable connection speed. Mirrors do vary on speed, but you can always change a mirror later if you have problems. Anne You may also have more success if you use wget instead of curl. As root, open file /etc//urpmi/urpmi.cfg and add the following to the top of the file: { downloader: wget } -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Mozilla on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Community) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-20mdk ~~~ One could not be a successful scientist without realizing that, in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers and mothers of scientists, a goodly number of scientists are not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid. -- J.D. Watson, The Double Helix ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] XFCE-taskbar plugin?
Kenneth Rhodes wrote: Hi, I noticed that the taskbar plugin was missing from the recent announcement posted by Charles. Also, it appears that the taskbar link is broken from the page: http://www.eslrahc.com/10.1/xfce-taskbar-plugin-0.2.2-0.1010.1mdk.i586.rpm Its kinda strange running XFCE without a taskbar, over all XFCE is becoming THE DESKTOP manager IMHO. :) I take it the XFCE taskbar is under construction? Thanks to Charles for hosting eslrachc.com. Kenneth Rhodes 100% MicroSoft Free! That's strange - I have the taskbar installed running on xfce on 10.1! xfce-taskbar-plugin-0.2.2-0.1010.1mdk shows as installed on the software section of MCC, and I assumed it came from eslrahc. Each time I've updated xfce, I've had to reactivate the taskbar - just run the command xftaskbar4 and it appears - have you tried this? PS Please remove your Reply-to setting so replies will go to the list and not to you. -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Mozilla on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Community) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-20mdk ~~~ The hands that help are better far than the lips that pray. -- Robert G. Ingersoll ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem
Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Friday 10 December 2004 11:37, Keith Powell wrote: I KNOW that this has been asked before, but I can't find the answer in the archives or in twiki. Sorry for asking it again. I have a new machine, and now, when I close down, everything closes down correctly, but then Mandrake does not actually switch the computer off. If I remember correctly, there is something to change in the lilo.conf file, but I can't remember what it is - not having needed it before. Please, what is it? Many thanks Keith In /etc/lilo.conf try editing the append-line, especially the apic thing. Remove it completely or set it to apic=ht or noapic. HTH Kaj Haulrich. Kaj, I think you're mixing up apic and acpi! The options for apic include noapic and/or nolapic. The options for acpi include acpi=on, acpi=off and acpi=ht. There doesn't seem to be any magic formula for which combinations of these options will work - it seems to be just a case of trial and error until you hit the particular combination that will give you a clean shutdown. Keith, if you still have problems after checking all possible combinations of apic acpi, you might need to try a different kernel. -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Mozilla on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Community) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-10mdk ~~~ One cannot make an omelette without breaking eggs -- but it is amazing how many eggs one can break without making a decent omelette. -- Professor Charles P. Issawi ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem
Keith Powell wrote: Margot wrote: Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Friday 10 December 2004 11:37, Keith Powell wrote: I have a new machine, and now, when I close down, everything closes down correctly, but then Mandrake does not actually switch the computer off. If I remember correctly, there is something to change in the lilo.conf file, but I can't remember what it is - not having needed it before. Please, what is it? Many thanks Keith In /etc/lilo.conf try editing the append-line, especially the apic thing. Remove it completely or set it to apic=ht or noapic. HTH Kaj Haulrich. Kaj, I think you're mixing up apic and acpi! The options for apic include noapic and/or nolapic. The options for acpi include acpi=on, acpi=off and acpi=ht. There doesn't seem to be any magic formula for which combinations of these options will work - it seems to be just a case of trial and error until you hit the particular combination that will give you a clean shutdown. Keith, if you still have problems after checking all possible combinations of apic acpi, you might need to try a different kernel. Thanks Margot. Sometime, I must find out the difference between apic and apci - I thought they were almost the same! But, at the moment, Tom's reply has made me very depressed to find out that my new computer is no good! I don't think that it can be the kernel, as everything closed down OK on my old machine. Cheers Keith Keith, Don't get too depressed! Tom's a bit of a perfectionist when it comes to hardware - and he's saved me a lot of heartache on many occasions - but if everything else is working for you except the shutdown, then your new computer is probably fine. Just experiment a bit with the apic acpi options in the kernel append line, and you'll probably find some combination that works - it just might take a few shutdown/reboots to hit the ideal mix! -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Mozilla on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Community) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-10mdk ~~~ The more things change, the more they stay insane. ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Xfce 4.2 on Mandrake 9.1
Anders Lind wrote: If you are installing via rpm the build order has nothing to do with it. If you are speaking of the Order in which I build the rpms, I have done it so many times I could do it in my sleep. If you are running 4.0.6, whether you are using rpms from my site or those from a Mdk mirror you are still Using My rpms as I uploaded both. --- So the different modules doesn't depend on each other? /Anders Anders, Trust Charles, trust me! I used his Xfce on 10, and I'm now using his latest version on 10.1, and it's beautiful! Just go to his site www.eslrahc.com, follow the instructions he gives to set it as an urpmi source for whichever Mandrake you're running, then use urpmi to install - works perfectly, and I'm sure you'll be impressed with the result! -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Mozilla on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Official) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-12mdk ~~~ Kaufman's First Law of Party Physics: Population density is inversely proportional to the square of the distance from the keg. ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Firefox Mouse Config
JoeHill wrote: On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 19:43:45 -0700 mike disseminated the following: mousewheel.withnokey.sysnumlinesuserset boolean false Ack! I missed that one. Many thanks! Maybe you just need to buy a faster mouse? ;-) -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Mozilla on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Official) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-12mdk ~~~ Those who have some means think that the most important thing in the world is love. The poor know that it is money. -- Gerald Brenan ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi - file not found - FIXED
Margot wrote: Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Wednesday 10 November 2004 17:39, Fajar Priyanto wrote: Hi folks, [EMAIL PROTECTED] monmon]# urpmi --auto-select To satisfy dependencies, the following package is going to be installed (3 MB): urpmi-4.6-1mdk.noarch Is this OK? (Y/n) y ftp://mdk.linux.org.tw/pub/mandrakelinux/devel/10.1/i586/media/ma in/urpmi-4.6-1mdk.noarch.rpm ...retrieving failed: curl failed: exited with 19 or signal 0 Installation failed, some files are missing: ftp://mdk.linux.org.tw/pub/mandrakelinux/devel/10.1/i586/media/ma in/urpmi-4.6-1mdk.noarch.rpm You may want to update your urpmi database ...retrieving failed: curl: (19) Given file does not exist Is it normal? I mean temporary failure only? I have changed the source to several servers, but same result. Thanks. Just like it says : update your urpmi database and try again. This usually works for me (as root) : rpm --rebuilddb. HTH Kaj Haulrich. I'm getting the same problem. I've tried several urpmi sources, and tried rpm --rebuilddb each time, and still get the same response. On this occasion, I think it's *them* and not *us*. If we wait a couple of days, maybe they'll fix it. Mandrakesoft have told me this is now fixed. I've just tried it, and everything seems OK. -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Mozilla on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Official) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-12mdk ~~~ Kramer's Law: You can never tell which way the train went by looking at the tracks. ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Broadband router
amalasingh wrote: Hi, Can anyone recommend a broadband router compatible with UK BT based ISPs. I have supanet broadband. I have trouble with connecting from Mandrake since the ISP only supports Windows. Cheers Amala Singh Netgear DG834 working well here with Force9 Broadband, and it was easy to set up in Mandrake 10.1 - haven't tried it in any earlier versions of Mandrake. -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Mozilla on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Official) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-12mdk ~~~ All my friends are getting married, Yes, they're all growing old, They're all staying home on the weekend, They're all doing what they're told. ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi - file not found
Margot wrote: Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Wednesday 10 November 2004 17:39, Fajar Priyanto wrote: Hi folks, [EMAIL PROTECTED] monmon]# urpmi --auto-select To satisfy dependencies, the following package is going to be installed (3 MB): urpmi-4.6-1mdk.noarch Is this OK? (Y/n) y ftp://mdk.linux.org.tw/pub/mandrakelinux/devel/10.1/i586/media/ma in/urpmi-4.6-1mdk.noarch.rpm ...retrieving failed: curl failed: exited with 19 or signal 0 Installation failed, some files are missing: ftp://mdk.linux.org.tw/pub/mandrakelinux/devel/10.1/i586/media/ma in/urpmi-4.6-1mdk.noarch.rpm You may want to update your urpmi database ...retrieving failed: curl: (19) Given file does not exist Is it normal? I mean temporary failure only? I have changed the source to several servers, but same result. Thanks. Just like it says : update your urpmi database and try again. This usually works for me (as root) : rpm --rebuilddb. HTH Kaj Haulrich. I'm getting the same problem. I've tried several urpmi sources, and tried rpm --rebuilddb each time, and still get the same response. On this occasion, I think it's *them* and not *us*. If we wait a couple of days, maybe they'll fix it. I've done a little further investigating on this. Using the --auto-select option, urpmi proposes to install the following: perl-URPM-1.04-1mdk.i586 urpmi-4.6-1mdk.noarch On the mirror ftp://ftp.proxad.net/pub/Distributions_Linux/Mandrakelinux/devel/community/i586/media/main/ the following versions are found: perl-URPM-1.03-2mdk.i586.rpm urpmi-4.5-28mdk.noarch.rpm Could someone *either* amend the hdlist files to show the actual versions of the packages present on the mirrors, *or* upload the newer versions of the packages? Warly? -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Mozilla on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Official) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-12mdk ~~~ Creating computer software is always a demanding and painstaking process -- an exercise in logic, clear expression, and almost fanatical attention to detail. It requires intelligence, dedication, and an enormous amount of hard work. But, a certain amount of unpredictable and often unrepeatable inspiration is what usually makes the difference between adequacy and excellence. ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi - file not found
Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Wednesday 10 November 2004 17:39, Fajar Priyanto wrote: Hi folks, [EMAIL PROTECTED] monmon]# urpmi --auto-select To satisfy dependencies, the following package is going to be installed (3 MB): urpmi-4.6-1mdk.noarch Is this OK? (Y/n) y ftp://mdk.linux.org.tw/pub/mandrakelinux/devel/10.1/i586/media/ma in/urpmi-4.6-1mdk.noarch.rpm ...retrieving failed: curl failed: exited with 19 or signal 0 Installation failed, some files are missing: ftp://mdk.linux.org.tw/pub/mandrakelinux/devel/10.1/i586/media/ma in/urpmi-4.6-1mdk.noarch.rpm You may want to update your urpmi database ...retrieving failed: curl: (19) Given file does not exist Is it normal? I mean temporary failure only? I have changed the source to several servers, but same result. Thanks. Just like it says : update your urpmi database and try again. This usually works for me (as root) : rpm --rebuilddb. HTH Kaj Haulrich. I'm getting the same problem. I've tried several urpmi sources, and tried rpm --rebuilddb each time, and still get the same response. On this occasion, I think it's *them* and not *us*. If we wait a couple of days, maybe they'll fix it. -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Mozilla on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Official) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-12mdk ~~~ IBM: [International Business Machines Corp.] Also known as Itty Bitty Machines or The Lawyer's Friend. The dominant force in computer marketing, having supplied worldwide some 75% of all known hardware and 10% of all software. To protect itself from the litigious envy of less successful organizations, such as the US government, IBM employs 68% of all known ex-Attorneys' General. ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] first email from new laptop w/Mdk!!!
Angus Auld wrote: Greetings all.:-) This is my first email message sent from my new laptoppowered by Mdk Linux, and Mdk Linux ONLY! MS FREE NOTEBOOK HERE! I had a real marathon getting things setup. Does anyone have any idea why Mdk installer would not show me options to choose from various filesystems during my SEVERAL installations??? I tried expert mode as well as default. Is there any way to change from the ext3 that I have now to reiserfs? Also, how can I get my laptop (Dell Inspiron 1150) to power down automatically on shutdown. I now have to manually do it with my start button. :-( Besides that though, it looks good. TIA for any help. Best regards. --Angus Congratulations on getting the new machine up and running! Now that you've had a few hours to leap around the room celebrating, perhaps you could calm down and tell us which version of Mandrake you're using, and which kernel? Then maybe somebody will be able to help you ;-) -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Mozilla on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Official) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-12mdk ~~~ It's later than you think. ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] first email from new laptop w/Mdk!!!
Angus Auld wrote: Thanks a bunch for the helpful replies! Right now, I am using the standard kernel version that installs with Mdk10.0, which is what system I'm using. I am going to update to the latest kernel version this evening. I will implement the changes suggested, and report back on my progress. :-) You gotta love this list. Best regards. -- Angus PS (Margot). Do I have to stop *jumping for joy* about this installation already? ;-)) Angus, I don't wish to curb your enthusiasm, but I just think it would be easier to *fix* things if you calmed down a little first ;-) Good luck! -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Mozilla on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Official) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-12mdk ~~~ finlandia:~ apropos win win: nothing appropriate. ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] HELP - Absolutely cannot update
Jack wrote: On Mon, 2004-10-25 at 21:47 +0100, Margot wrote: Community versions of Mandrake do not have updates or update source media - the updates are contained in the media which you have already added as sources. To obtain the updates, instead of using the GUI you must use urpmi. Open a root terminal, give the following command: urpmi.update -a --no-md5sum urpmi --auto-select This will update all your media, and show you a list of updated versions of any packages you have installed. Thanks Margot... this seems to have done it. So this means that I can't use the drakes to update, right? - Jack Once the Official version of 10.1 is released, you can delete your Community sources, go back yo easyurpmi, install Official sources, and you will be able to use the drakes from then on...if you really want to. Of course, by then you will be so accustomed to using urpmi that you probably won't need to use the drakes ever again! To become an expert urpmi user, look here: http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/UsingUrpmi -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Mozilla on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Community) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-12mdk ~~~ The major difference between bonds and bond traders is that the bonds will eventually mature. ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] HELP - Absolutely cannot update
Jack wrote: This Linux newbie needs help!!! No matter how many times I've tried over the last few weeks, I have not been able to update with Mandrake 10.1. I always get the message: It is impossible to retreive the list of new packages from the media 'update source.' Either the update media is misconfigured, and in this case you shouldd use the software media manager to remove it and re-add it in order to reconfigure it, either it is currently unreachable and you should retry later. It also reports trying to download '... which doesn't seem like a viable name to me. Thing is, I think I'm missing something. In my media manager, I don't HAVE an update source. I have the 3 installation cd's listed and main, contrib, and plf. That's all. No media called updates. I have done the urpmi 3 steps thing and have searched far and wide over the internet, but I cannot find a solution to this problem. Can someone help? - Jack Community versions of Mandrake do not have updates or update source media - the updates are contained in the media which you have already added as sources. To obtain the updates, instead of using the GUI you must use urpmi. Open a root terminal, give the following command: urpmi.update -a --no-md5sum urpmi --auto-select This will update all your media, and show you a list of updated versions of any packages you have installed. -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Mozilla on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Community) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-12mdk ~~~ Computer Science is the only discipline in which we view adding a new wing to a building as being maintenance -- Jim Horning ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Where have all the kernel source gone ?
Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 21 Oct 2004 23:32, Margot wrote: Dan Gordon wrote: On October 21, 2004 05:19 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: Yes, Dan. Go to easyurpmi.zarb.org and get some cooker sources. There you will find 2.6.8.1-12mdk and its source rpm. This will be in 10.1 Official, I believe. Anne Ahh ok I never thought to look on cooker, silly me ;-) But wont that put 10.1 into a cooked sorta state, I dont wana wreck things too quick. Thanks Anne Regards, Dan Gordon Dan Anne, Up until yesterday, cooker was the correct place to find 10.1 updates, but (as per Warly's message about 12 hours ago) the 10.1 Community mirrors now carry the updates for 10.1 Community. Don't use the cooker sources any more unless you want to end up running cooker! It was recommended that I do use cooker, just at this moment. It is in a 'frozen' state, meaning that 10.1 Official is being prepared for roll-out. Once that roll-out happens, I agree that cooker should not be used again unless it is to deliberately use the unstable bleeding-edge. At that point, I presume, we should remove the cooker sources and apply the 10.1 Official sources. Anne Anne, I know Tom told you to use cooker sources, but that was because no updates were available on the Community mirrors. The updates *are* now available on the Community mirrors - safer to switch now, rather than forgetting to switch later and ending up inadvertently running cooker! -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Mozilla on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Community) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-10mdk ~~~ Vanilla wafer. ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Where have all the kernel source gone ?
Dan Gordon wrote: On October 21, 2004 05:19 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: Yes, Dan. Go to easyurpmi.zarb.org and get some cooker sources. There you will find 2.6.8.1-12mdk and its source rpm. This will be in 10.1 Official, I believe. Anne Ahh ok I never thought to look on cooker, silly me ;-) But wont that put 10.1 into a cooked sorta state, I dont wana wreck things too quick. Thanks Anne Regards, Dan Gordon Dan Anne, Up until yesterday, cooker was the correct place to find 10.1 updates, but (as per Warly's message about 12 hours ago) the 10.1 Community mirrors now carry the updates for 10.1 Community. Don't use the cooker sources any more unless you want to end up running cooker! -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Mozilla on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Community) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-10mdk ~~~ Which is worse: ignorance or apathy? Who knows? Who cares? ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Where have all the kernel source gone ?
Dan Gordon wrote: On October 21, 2004 06:32 pm, Margot wrote: Dan Anne, Up until yesterday, cooker was the correct place to find 10.1 updates, but (as per Warly's message about 12 hours ago) the 10.1 Community mirrors now carry the updates for 10.1 Community. Don't use the cooker sources any more unless you want to end up running cooker! So easy urpmi just has not caught up yet then ? Regards, Dan Gordon I'm using the proxad 10.1 Community sources - about 300 updates appeared today! -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Mozilla on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Community) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-10mdk ~~~ If all else fails, lower your standards. ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] GTK2 PDF reader
JoeHill wrote: On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 19:47:38 +1000 John Layt disseminated the following: P.S. Oh, all right Gnome has something called gpdf which is also based on xpdf, but I can't speak for it as I won't have that the G stuff on my drive... LOL! Exactly the opposite here...no 'K' for me! gpdf does the trick for me, now that I know all I have to do is 'lpr /path/to/file', I don't need gpdf to print for me. Are you saying that gpdf doesn't print for you? Works fine for me - just click on Print, click on Job tab to select which pages I want, then away it goes! This is gpdf-0.132-3 on xfce4 on 10.1CE - maybe you have an older version and need to upgrade? -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Mozilla on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Community) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-10mdk ~~~ It is not enough to have a good mind. The main thing is to use it well. -- Rene Descartes ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Security Updates
Matt Harrison wrote: Hi all, I am sure this has already been answered, but I didn't have much luck with the archives. I am using 10.1 community currently and when I try to add a security update source, it pops up telling me it is impossible to add the source and that it is most likely misconfigured. Is there a problem with curl or are the sites just down currently? Thanks in advance, -Matt For 10.1 Community, same as for 10.0 Community, there are *no* 'update' sources. Updates for Community are found in 'main', not in a separate source. Go to easyurpmi, select 10.1 Community sources for 'main', 'contrib', 'jpackage' and 'plf'. Every day, open a root terminal and do this: urpmi.update -a --no-md5sum urpmi --auto-select This will get you a list of updates for all packages that you have installed. Curl usually fails - you should be using wget instead. As root, open your /etc/urpmi/urpmi.cfg file, and add this at the top: { verify-rpm: 0 downloader: wget } -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Mozilla on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Community) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-10mdk ~~~ You get along very well with everyone except animals and people. ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Security Updates
Stew Benedict wrote: On Fri, 8 Oct 2004, Margot wrote: For 10.1 Community, same as for 10.0 Community, there are *no* 'update' sources. Updates for Community are found in 'main', not in a separate source. Go to easyurpmi, select 10.1 Community sources for 'main', 'contrib', 'jpackage' and 'plf'. Every day, open a root terminal and do this: urpmi.update -a --no-md5sum urpmi --auto-select You currently see updates hitting community main? I was under the impression that that is static atm. Went through this last night with a support person and it looked like the hdlist on proxad was dated Sept15. Thanks, No, none at the moment, but that's where they would be once they start coming through, isn't it? I check every day because I'm on dialup - I don't want to leave it a couple of weeks and then find that I've got loads of updates to catch up on - better to do them as when they appear, in easily-digestible chunks. -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Mozilla on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Community) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-10mdk ~~~ All I ask of life is a constant and exaggerated sense of my own importance. ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] pre upgrade questions [9.0 to 10.0]
Merlin Zener wrote: On Fri, 2004-10-01 at 05:41, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Friday 01 October 2004 00:19, Merlin Zener wrote: On Fri, 2004-10-01 at 00:21, Stephen Kühn wrote: Two words: CLEAN INSTALL so that would involve reformatting both drives? No, just the existing / and maybe /usr partitions. Leave all the others as they are! If so, then I guess I'm in for a long backup session first... How should I go about it? Could someone address these concerns for me?: What kind of backup should I do first, just in case anything goes wrong? I'm guessing, simply copy anything that's in /home/merlin, but where else are things kept that I need to back up? What about Mozilla, Pan and Evolution - where do they keep their files? Is there a Linux equivalent of the registry that I should back up? [and would it work with 10.0 anyway?] They're all in your home directory i.e. /home partition. and something I just thought of: How do I get my mail back into Evolution after the backup/reformat/reinstall process? They'll still be there if you haven't formatted your /home partition Oh, and I just thought of another thing: If I have to reformat my Windows drives, should I reinstall windows first before installing Mandrake 10.0? And, I seem to recall there's something about NTFS that makes it so Linux and Windows can't access the same files - so should I take the opportunity and redo Windows in FAT32 or something? Whatever you want, but I'd leave everything as is and use the FAT32 a a sort of transit-space from ext3 to ntfs and back. thanks for your thoughts. How, exactly, do I only format certain partitions? Does the installer on the 10.0 CD give me this option? Or do I have to use some other software? The CD will give you the option to either upgrade or install. Choose install - works better than upgrade - that's what Stephen meant! The CD will also give you the choice of which partitions to reformat - leave /home alone, plus any windows partitions, and reformat the rest. Make sure you back up /home before you start, just in case there's a power cut or some other disaster that interrupts the process - but there's 99.99% chance you will still have your /home intact after the install is finished. When the installation reaches the part about going on to the internet and installing updates, say no! It's much better to do this with urpmi once you've rebooted - gives you more control. Good luck! -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Mozilla on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Community) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-10mdk ~~~ History repeats itself only if one does not listen the first time. ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Re: data cd's
Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Fri, 2004-10-01 at 11:11, Paul Smith wrote: On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 14:59:02 +0100, Paul Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have just installed udftools and checked its project site, but I did not find any documentation. So, does somebody here know how to use udftools for writing on cd-rw disks? Since, nobody has answered this post, is it correct, according to netiquette principles, to ask the same question in a different list? Paul Absolutely. Post this to the expert list and see what you get BTW you have a Reply To set. This is a no no. Check Eric Huff's netiquette rules that are posted periodically to this list. The Reply To should not be set to anything at all. This causes a respondent to send to you rather than the list by default. LX Before we go over this argument *again*, Paul's using gmail which apparently has problems with reply-to settings - can't be left blank, and can't be set to the list address - so the rest of us will just have to remember to look out for it when we reply to messages from gmail users. -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Mozilla on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Community) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-10mdk ~~~ Mercury CJ|BiZKiT-0- i can upload to linux server tho Mercury CJ|BiZKiT-0- i got a shell account on one Mercury Mercury Whats it running? Mercury CJ|BiZKiT-0- umm Mercury CJ|BiZKiT-0- apache i think Mercury Help, please help.. * Omni chuckles ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Where are the archives?
Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Fri, 2004-10-01 at 13:27, Todd Slater wrote: On Fri, Oct 01, 2004 at 07:31:20AM -0400, Lanman wrote: LX, whack Lyvim is one of the few who maintains a relatively even composure compared to some of us and constantly offers help, suggestions and tactful nudges as to list etiquette instead of attacking newbies or welcoming them with criticism. I'd like to think that guys like LX will make this list a favourite spot for newbies for a long time to come and will ultimately lead to a better experience for most of us. snip Are you insane? __ Are you another annoying Democrat? LX Can we move this to the OT list now please, before it goes any further? And Todd and Lanman would be more than welcome to join us there ;-) -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Mozilla on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Community) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-10mdk ~~~ Academic politics is the most vicious and bitter form of politics, because the stakes are so low. -- Wallace Sayre ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] netpbm
David wrote: Guys Gals, This question is asked by a newbie with enough knowledge to be dangerous. Not enough to be really dangerous but heading that way. When I download the security or other notified updates I check to see it the particular app is loaded on my machine, before installing the update. So it was with the netpbm files. However, I notice that the 'libnetpb9-static-devel' file is not loaded. Before I do the update I would like to know how relevant that file is and should it be loaded, or is it not an issue. If you don't mind sharing any knowledge you have on this I'm all ears. If you are using urpmi for your updates, all you have to do to get the relevant updates is open a root terminal do: urpmi.update -a --no-md5sum urpmi --auto-select That will provide you with the list of available updates for packages you already have installed (plus their necessary dependencies). It will ignore updates for packages where you don't have older versions installed. If you are not yet using urpmi, you *should* be! See here: http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/UsingUrpmi -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Mozilla on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Community) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-10mdk ~~~ If computers take over (which seems to be their natural tendency), it will serve us right. -- Alistair Cooke ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Where are the archives?
Lanman wrote: You mean there really IS an OT list? Hell, I thought that was just a term you folks used to get rid of pesky individuals - sort of a ruse to make them insane looking for the OT list. Humph. Silly me! Where do I subscribe? Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 It's not an official Mandrake list - Mark Weaver kindly runs it so we can keep off-topic discussions away from the newbie expert lists. All are welcome to join - bring your own flame-proof suit! [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Mozilla on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Community) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-10mdk ~~~ Thus spake the master programmer: You can demonstrate a program for a corporate executive, but you can't make him computer literate. -- Geoffrey James, The Tao of Programming ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Where are the archives?
Lanman wrote: Margot wrote: It's not an official Mandrake list - Mark Weaver kindly runs it so we can keep off-topic discussions away from the newbie expert lists. All are welcome to join - bring your own flame-proof suit! [EMAIL PROTECTED] What??? No subscribe page? Jeesh! Do I just send an email with a subject that says subscribe in it or what? Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 I'll ask Mark to get back to you on that - he changed the setup recently. -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Mozilla on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Community) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-10mdk ~~~ Meester, do you vant to buy a duck? ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.1CE
Paul Kaplan wrote: My initial impression is that 10.1CE is faster than 10.0 Official. Can anyone confirm or would people like a sample of what I've been smokin'? Paul I upgraded from 10.0CE to 10.1CE - can't say if it's any faster, but it certainly look prettier. If you want me to perform a truly *scientific* test, you'd better send that sample ;-) -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Mozilla on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Community) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-10mdk ~~~ But the possibility of abuse may be a good reason for leaving capabilities out of other computer languages, it's not a good reason for leaving capabilities out of Perl. -- Larry Wall in [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mozilla crashing sometimes...
Merlin Zener wrote: Well I'm going back over the answers here trying again; I too have Mozilla but not Firefox atm just like the above poster. But it didn't work for me... [EMAIL PROTECTED] merlin]$ su Password: [EMAIL PROTECTED] merlin]# urpmi firefox no package named firefox [EMAIL PROTECTED] merlin]# hm The package is called mozilla-firefox, not just firefox, so try urpmi mozilla-firefox and you should get it! -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Mozilla on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Community) for i586 kernel 2.6.3-15mdk ~~~ Invest in physics -- own a piece of Dirac! ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Conversion from text to a spreadsheet format
Paul Smith wrote: On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 12:33:38 -0400, Carroll Grigsby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul: Oh, well, you tried. BTW, this time it came out as [EMAIL PROTECTED] If someone on the list has figured out a way of loosing the reply-to address with GMail, please let me know it. Paul No idea how to permanently fix your problem, but, for the time being, why don't you put the *list* address in the reply-to field? -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Mozilla on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrake Linux release 10.0 (Community) for i586 kernel 2.6.3-15mdk ~~~ President Reagan has noted that there are too many economic pundits and forecasters and has decided on an excess prophets tax. ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Good, Intuitive developement platform?
Eric Scott wrote: Yo; Though I'm not a proficient or experience developer, I like to tinker with code every now and then and learn what I can. What are some of the best development environments can I run on my Mandrake 9.1 box that have something like the intuitiveness of KDevelop and something in the neighborhood, or at least the same state, as Visual Studio .net? Thanx, ES Eric, For your own good, and for the benefit of others, please don't hijack threads on the mailing list. See here: http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MandrakeMailingListEtiquette If you want to start a new topic, start with a new message - don't just reply to an existing message and change the subject line. Why? Well, if you just change the subject line, your new messages will show up as part of an existing thread in most mail clients. Anybody who is not reading that thread will miss your message - you want to reach the widest audience possible, don't you? So far you have hijacked the tinfoil hats thread 3 times - that thread had drifted into a discussion of Canadian politics, so a lot of people will be deleting it without reading it - and the people who aren't reading it might be the very people who could help you...if they saw your messages. Also, many people use the mailing list archives to see if their question has already been asked and answered - they aren't likely to realise that the tinfoil hats thread contains information about development platforms! -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Mozilla on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrake Linux release 10.0 (Community) for i586 kernel 2.6.3-15mdk ~~~ To err is human, to moo bovine. ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Occasional email signature
JoeHill wrote: On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 20:03:32 -0500 Chris disseminated the following: Ah, go for the gusto! It's really easy to create your own file of quotes to randomly choose from, I got the howto from Todd Slater's site, but his site has gone all *political*, all kinds of *commie stuff* (love it Todd!), can't find the howto's anymore. If you want, I'll post how to go about that, or if Todd's 'listening' mayhap he'll post a link. Actually if she's using the script I sent her its already setup to call a random 'fortune' each time its ran. Ya, but it's nice to have your *own* database of quotes...well, at least if you're an unrepentant sh1t disturber like moi. Oh, and just looked what popped up at random... ;-) ...and of course 'twould be simple to modify that script as I did: echo `fortune /home/joehill/sigs/quotes` I left the fortune bit in Chris's script, but commented out - haven't had time to look at the fortunes database yet, wouldn't want to send something inappropriate to the nice distant cousin @microsoft.com (!) and I might eventually create my own database, but that's something I can play with later! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Occasional email signature
JoeHill wrote: On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 00:53:14 +0100 Margot disseminated the following: crontab -e which gets you into your user's cron config, hit 'i' to insert text, then: 0 * * * * /path/to/script /path/to/outputfile I got this far...but couldn't work out how to save what I'd inserted! Checked man crontab, looked for the file in the location that man said it should be in - I don't appear to have a crontab file at all! Eek! Dang, sorry, forgot that part. Gotta stop...doing that...thing...that I do... It's Vi you are using to edit the crontab, so once you (i)nsert the text, hit Esc to exit insert mode, then':wq' and Enter (the ':' is to tell Vi you are giving a command, the 'wq' means'write, then quit'). You should then get a message something like 'new crontab installed'. Vi is bloody intimidating at first, but from what I've heard, once you get used to it...well, like anything else. Anyhow, it's better than Emacs. /joehill ducks to avoid barrage of arrows tipped with C4 Thanks for the 'lesson', Joe - I'll save it for future reference - and I hope you haven't started the Vi vs Emacs flamewar again! Meanwhile, Warren from NZ has found a much easier solution (for me, at least) - Kalarm. Kalarm is a nice easy GUI that can be set to run the script at any interval I want - say, every 10 minutes - might even be useful for other people who want to run things more often than the 'hourly' option on cron! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] S/MIME and webmail
Paul Smith wrote: Dear All I am trying to use S/MIME, which works just fine with Thunderbird. However, it does not work with webmail, I mean, when I use the browser Mozilla to connect to the e-mail server at my work, through webmail. Is it really impossible to read encrypted e-mails with webmail? Thanks in advance, Paul I occasionally use my ISP's webmail service for reading my mail if I'm away from my own computer - I haven't had any trouble reading encrypted messages sent to the Mandrake lists, but I don't know anybody who sends me encrypted personal mail, so I don't know if it is some processing by sympa before the list mail reaches me that makes it readable in webmail... Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Occasional email signature
M.Schild wrote: I'd like to set up a signature that I can use occasionally - not on every email, just a selected few. I'd like it to include my name (pure laziness - saves typing it!), the Mandrake version and maybe a short message about why Mandrake is better than M$! Can someone point me to some clear step-by-step instructions for doing this? I'm using Mozilla 1.6 on Mandrake 10CE. and if someone could include the step by step for Kmail. thanks Maryse Someone kindly contacted me off-list (thanks, Chris!) and sent me a sig file I can adapt for my own use. He also gave me instructions for using it in Kmail: To use is, under Kmail settings, Identity, enable signature, obtain signature from (select output of command) Specify command, mine is /home/chris/sig Hope this helps you, Maryse - now, can anyone help me use the file in Mozilla 1.6 as I don't use Kmail? Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Occasional email signature
SnapafunFrank wrote: M.Schild wrote: Someone kindly contacted me off-list (thanks, Chris!) and sent me a sig file I can adapt for my own use. He also gave me instructions for using it in Kmail: To use is, under Kmail settings, Identity, enable signature, obtain signature from (select output of command) Specify command, mine is /home/chris/sig Hope this helps you, Maryse - now, can anyone help me use the file in Mozilla 1.6 as I don't use Kmail? thank you. I shall try Maryse OK. I'm using Mozilla-1.7.2 but I think the same applies for you. Go to : Edit Mail Newsgroup Account Settings and make sure your Account Name is highlighted. From there you can organize your signature and be pointed to it. My signature below is a text file buried in my /home/frank/Documents/Signature directory eg. Each time I do not want the signature attached I simply highlight it and hit the delete key. Hope this helps. Well, that got me closer, but not quite there yet... The file that Chris sent me is a script. So far, using your instructions, I have managed to get Mozilla to use the file - but it is using the *contents* of the file (showing the commands that produce the Mandrake version, kernel version etc.), and I actually need it to use the *output*. There must be a step in the middle that I'm missing. Do I need to create a 2nd file to contain the output of the script, somehow give a command to run the script and send the output to the 2nd file, then use the content of the 2nd file as the sig text? Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Adding New Stuff
BJ Tracy wrote: Hello All, If a newbie to Mandrake Linux wants to look for software for linux, what is the best way? Google? Thanks, bj Ryan has already mentioned *how* to install new stuff on Mandrake, so I won't bother to repeat it. If what you're looking for is suggestions on *what* software to install, I suggest you ask here - though if you ask something like which web browser should I try you must be prepared to receive many different and equally sensible recommendations ;-) Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Occasional email signature
Russ Kepler wrote: On Friday 10 September 2004 04:14 pm, Margot wrote: I haven't done much with scripts yet, so this is a whole new learning experience - but it's for a worthy cause, I'm sure it will come in useful for other things too! Try putting a | in front of the scripts name, Mozilla might recognize it as a pipe and execute the command, reading the output. Path to script is currently /home/margot/sig - where does the pipe go? Does it need spaces before/after? If that doesn't work you could put the command at the end of a named pipe. The link below shows an outline of how to go about doing that. http://jez.hancock-family.com/archives/27_Email_signatures_using_FIFO.html Had a look at the page - couldn't make head or tail of it I'm afraid! Much too advanced for me ;-) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Occasional email signature
JoeHill wrote: On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 23:14:54 +0100 Margot disseminated the following: Then Moz is not seeing the file as a script, but just a file to be read. I'm not sure about Moz, but in Sylpheed you can choose between a static file (to be read), or a command to be run which generates the sig. Does Moz have a similar choice in the signature config dialogue? No, unfortunately, or if there is I haven't found it yet! In Account Settings, there's a box to tick marked Attach this signature, and another box to give the path to the file. Switch to Sylpheed ;-) That's why I'm thinking I need to somehow run the script outside Mozilla, create a 2nd file for the output of the script, then use that output file as the sig file. I know how to set up the 2nd file, but I can't work out to run the script or get it to put the output into the 2nd file! Just run 'scriptname /path/to/outputfile'. I haven't done much with scripts yet, so this is a whole new learning experience - but it's for a worthy cause, I'm sure it will come in useful for other things too! Oh, you betcha. You could set up a cron job to run every, say 15 minutes or so, to run the script. Can't say as I've ever figured out how to schedule anything except hourly, m'self. Hourly, it would go like this: crontab -e which gets you into your user's cron config, hit 'i' to insert text, then: 0 * * * * /path/to/script /path/to/outputfile I got this far...but couldn't work out how to save what I'd inserted! Checked man crontab, looked for the file in the location that man said it should be in - I don't appear to have a crontab file at all! Eek! Then of course just point Moz at the /path/to/outputfile. Managed to run it manually though, and use the output (see below!) - which is probably all I need for now as I don't need to use the sig on all mails, just the occasional one! Thanks for your help :-) -- Regards Margot A 100% Microsoft Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org 00:43:53 up 11:31, 0 users, load average: 0.03, 0.08, 0.07 Mandrake Linux release 10.0 (Community) for i586 kernel 2.6.3-15mdk Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Nvu rpms
julie wrote: Has anyone tried using the WYSIWYG html editor Nvu? There is now an rpm for Mandrake 10 available and, before installing the program I was wondering if anyone had experienced any glitches. Julie I haven't tried it, but I've read about it and I'd be interested in looking at it - can you give me the URL where you found the rpm? Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Occasional email signature
I'd like to set up a signature that I can use occasionally - not on every email, just a selected few. I'd like it to include my name (pure laziness - saves typing it!), the Mandrake version and maybe a short message about why Mandrake is better than M$! Can someone point me to some clear step-by-step instructions for doing this? I'm using Mozilla 1.6 on Mandrake 10CE. Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Nvu rpms
Paul Smith wrote: Margot wrote: I haven't tried it, but I've read about it and I'd be interested in looking at it - can you give me the URL where you found the rpm? Margot, You can find a Mandrake 10 rpm at: http://www.nvu.com/download.html Regards, Paul That was quick! Thanks - I'll give it a try. Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Re: Modem needed for UK Broadband
Russell Butler wrote: Margot wrote: Tony. Sweet of you to offer, Tony - unfortunately, I'm in Kent! I'm going to try the Adult Education centre courses - with any luck, I'll be able to learn how to install the ethernet card myself, perhaps with a little help by remote control from the kind people on this list ;-) Margot Hi folk Can I toss in another option from the antipodes, may cost a few pounds more, but may end up quicker and less worrying to Margot. That is to use a USB to Ethernet LAN adaptor. I had the problem of a 5-year old laptop running MK 10, which would not cope with a cardbus(32-bit) PMCIA Ethernet card after my old 16-bit card failed. It has one USB port which now carries the USB to Ethernet LAN adaptor. This picked up the settings I had tried for the Cardbus card, and is talking happily to my ADSL router/modem and my desktop machine. In OZ, the USB card is about twice the price of a PCI Ethernet card, but will of course just plug into a USB port. Just another possibility which has certainly worked very simply for me in a somewhat similar situation. Russell That's an interesting suggestion. I've never heard of these adaptors before - can you tell me the make/model of the one you're using? Of course there's no guarantee that the same one would be available in the UK, but at least I could go to a shop and say I want one...like this! And you had no trouble with the USB side of it? I had to abandon a USB printer that insisted on being reinstalled reconfigured every time I switched it on...but my USB scanner works fine! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] update installation
Martin Foster wrote: On Saturday 04 Sep 2004 12:25, john wrote: Hello I am updating md10 and keep getting a conflict message for the cups printer file and the printer utilites file. When trying to install together or indivually, the message says that installation failed due to one conflicting with the other. Since neither has installed, I don't see how they could conflict. It doesn't say which file so I am not sure which way to go from here. Would appreciate any help on this. Exactly the same happens when I try to install either of these packages too. The offending file is reported in the output from urpmi: -- 8 -- installing /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/cups-drivers-1.1-138.1.100mdk.i586.rpm Preparing...## Installation failed: file /usr/lib/cups/backend/mtink from install of cups-drivers-1.1-138.1.100mdk conflicts with file from package printer-utils-1.0-133mdk -- 8 -- Sorry I can't offer a solution. Solution: urpme cups-drivers printer-utils (to remove the old versions of both packages), then urpmi cups-drivers printer-utils (to install the new versions of both packages) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband
Margot wrote: I've managed to track down what looks to be an ethical and reasonably-priced Broadband provider - www.thephone.coop - they assure me that their service will work with Linux (and their tech support didn't scream in horror when I asked!). They don't supply a modem. Can anyone recommend one which will definitely work with Mandrake 10 (and with Win 98SE, as I'm now dual booting)? Preferably an external one, as I'm not confident with screwdrivers! Or, are there any I should definitely avoid? Margot Replying to my own post to save energy! I've had many useful suggestions, both on- and off-list, too many to continue replying individually, so this is what I'm going to do: I need to develop some hardware expertise. I've signed up with the local Adult Education Centre for 2 short courses designed for hardware 'newbies' - one on PC Upgrade and one on Home Networking. By December, I should at least be 'mentally' competent with a screwdriver, and if I can't manage the physical side, at least I'll have met some local people who may be able to help! My birthday is 2 weeks before Christmas, so by the end of the year I should be able to afford the ethernet card and router - and maybe even a new screwdriver ;-) Can anyone recommend any books or online resources on hardware? VERY basic level please - along the lines of 'how not to ruin a perfectly good computer by sticking a screwdriver in the wrong place'! Many thanks to all who have helped steer me in the right direction - I don't know what I'd do without this list ! Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband
Tony S. Sykes wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Brinkman Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 9:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband On Thursday 02 September 2004 02:31 pm, Margot wrote: Bryan Phinney wrote: On Thursday 02 September 2004 09:27 am, John Richard Smith wrote: OK then I bow to experience. Only I found in the device easy enough, but the with the network MCC still asks a lot of questions you don't know the answers to, and without those answers it don't work. Of course that is trying to set up a network. I just don't find it clear whether setting up a router/modem plus ethernet can be done with nothing more than getting the devices recognised by the system, or that you also have to have the beginning of a network as well. Most router/modems work based upon dhcp, which means that they automatically assign an IP address, netmask, broadcast, gateway, (some even do the domain name) to the cards that are plugged into their systems. So, simply letting the MCC wizard detect the card and then using the default selections (they default to DHCP IIRC) should result in a working network configuration. That is pretty much why I suggested the router/modem route. Otherwise, you have to configure the USB device, but then you are also going to have to configure the Network connection with ID/password, etc to get the DSL connection running. And I don't know of any standalone router device so, if you want to share the network connection, you have to set that up on the machine too. Again, to each his own, but I can't imagine any situation where the USB one would be easier than ethernet. We seem to be drifting a bit here... As I said in my original message, I need a solution that doesn't involve screwdrivers - not just because I'm a girl (!) but I have ME - the combination of brainfog plus physical limitations means that installing anything that involves taking the case off the box is beyond my capabilities. As I understand it, an ethernet card would be installed inside the box - which means that I'd have to pay not only for the card but for the installation of it, and of course there's the inconvenience of having to take the box to the shop etc...plus the cost of the router which appears to be considerably more expensive than the USB modem. Right now, I can afford the broadband service plus the USB modem. I'd have to save up for another 2-3 months to go for the other option. I'd appreciate your opinion on this - will the ease of use of the ethernet option be worth the wait and the extra expense? Thanks Margot Margot, I think you need to be listening to Paul and Bryan, et all, who suggest you go the hardware route and avoid USB/ Speedtouch (akin to the aDSL version of a 'winmodem'). There is absolutely no problem associated with removing your case cover and installing a cheap D-link NIC in a pci slot. Takes less than a few minutes, harddrake will find it on the next boot. I can't believe that if you don't wanna do it, you can't find somebody to do it for you. I believe you read the cooker list, an you should also be seein the buggzilla's. If not, then just search them for 'speedtouch' and 'usb'. I think that should be argument enough that Paul and Bryan are givin you the best advice. Which is why I've stayed out of this till now. https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/ The only thing I'd add is, (as root) 'urpmi rp-pppoe' and run 'tkpppoe' to answer about a half dozen questions. Provider, userID, password, DNS from server?, stuff like that. Your adsl connection can then be started with 'adsl-start', and terminated with 'adsl-stop'. It's easier to enable aDSL service this way, than under Windoze. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Margot, If your close to Manchester I can drive over and install it for you. Tony. Sweet of you to offer, Tony - unfortunately, I'm in Kent! I'm going to try the Adult Education centre courses - with any luck, I'll be able to learn how to install the ethernet card myself, perhaps with a little help by remote control from the kind people on this list ;-) Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Specific software to write FAQs
Paul Smith wrote: Dear All Is there some specific software to write FAQs? Thanks in advance, Paul Where do you want to publish them? If you want them on a website, you could try Mozilla Composer (part of the standard Mozilla package) - you can write your own HTML in it, or use the WYSIWYG, so it's good for HTML newbies. If you want to produce your FAQs on paper, try scribus - a DTP program, fairly easy to use. Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband
I've managed to track down what looks to be an ethical and reasonably-priced Broadband provider - www.thephone.coop - they assure me that their service will work with Linux (and their tech support didn't scream in horror when I asked!). They don't supply a modem. Can anyone recommend one which will definitely work with Mandrake 10 (and with Win 98SE, as I'm now dual booting)? Preferably an external one, as I'm not confident with screwdrivers! Or, are there any I should definitely avoid? Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband
Richard Urwin wrote: On Wednesday 01 Sep 2004 11:55 pm, flesh.99 wrote: On Wed, 1 Sep 2004 18:40:17 -0400, Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 01 September 2004 06:02 pm, Margot wrote: They don't supply a modem. Can anyone recommend one which will definitely work with Mandrake 10 (and with Win 98SE, as I'm now dual booting)? Preferably an external one, as I'm not confident with screwdrivers! Or, are there any I should definitely avoid? Margot, you really should be asking them for a list of recommendations. ADSL is not totally universal as far as equipment goes, so the kind of modem that you need is going to be determined by the hardware at the DSLAM and phone company, not based on the operating system you run. According to their web page, they support the Speedtouch 330 USB DSL modem as well as the Netgear DM602 router/modem. Personally, I would go for the Netgear if I were you, it will hook up to your ethernet card and should be as close to plug and play as you get. The USB option is more likely to result in possible compatibility problems. It appears that the USB is fine as well: http://www.4p8.com/eric.brasseur/fc2_speedtouch_usb.html http://www.linux-usb.org/SpeedTouch/ There are some issues, but the howto's should get them through it. There is a lot of support for it out there. It won't be as easy as the NetGear but it's all about choice. The other nice thing about ethernet routers is that you can have a firewall up that allows no evil traffic to even get as far as your machine. Try the reviews on http://www.adslguide.org.uk/ http://www.adslguide.org.uk/reviews/ Thanks, all - I think I'm going to have to go with the USB option for now - I don't have an ethernet card! And the Speedtouch 330 seems to be fairly cheap and widely available... Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Problem with /dev/tty
Paul Smith wrote: Greg Meyer wrote: I have done some updates on my computer and now, at start-up, the script rc.sysinit tries to access to several tty, but the permission is denied. Afterwards, still during booting, IPMI fails. Any ideas? That error was coming up on boxes running cooker when Mandrake switched the default de vice manager from devfs to udev. You are a bad boy running cooker stuff and posting to the newbie list. Seriously though, are you running cooker or a 10.1 beta. if yes, you might want to check the cooker mailing list archives because I believe this was explained over there. Greg, I apologize if I should not post my question in this list. I am really a newbie, as I do not know even whether I am running a cooker version or not. I have indeed done some updates from cooker, likewise I download from there the latest version of the software I use. All updates that I have done were suggested by MandrakeUpdate. I will have a look at cooker mailing list. Regards, Paul Paul, It is really not a good idea to try to mix packages from cooker with packages from official - cooker packages are by their very nature 'unstable' and, although they may be the 'latest' version they are not necessarily compatible with 10 official - as you have found :-( I suggest you go into Mandrake Control Centre - Software Management - Media Manager and delete all your sources except the CDs, then go here: http://www.urpmi.org/easyurpmi Select 10 official in Section 1 Select all possible sources in Section 2, and mark the box at the bottom to use the compressed index Open a root terminal and use copy/paste to transfer the easyurpmi output to the terminal, one medium at a time You will then have the correct sources set up for your system, and you can then use either urpmi (from a terminal) or Mandrake Control Centre - Software Management - Updates section to get the right updates. Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] WAY OT - From the And you thought YOU were a newbie dept.
Charles A Edwards wrote: On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 22:17:17 -0700 (PDT) J Latham wrote: 2) Carefully pull the tray out and remove the CD CD? What the Hell has a bank note got to do with a cup holder? Charles I used to work in banking, handling safe custody of CDs and other securities - it worried me at first when people started talking about burning their CDs! Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] tools for partitioning and formatting hard drive(diatribe alert)
Julie Sloan wrote: snip Julie PS I am here because someone on the linuxchix mailing list said this is a good forum for newbies to learn - and I've already found lotsa nice links in the links section. the top ten commands site has been especially helpful so far. Glad you made it over here, Julie - welcome! Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] modem problems - speak slowly please
Julie Sloan wrote: Hi - my first post to this forum. I've been trying to inhale all the information out there and so far have made it through just a few of the info man pages. I'm on mandrake 10.0 official, got both KDE and Gnome running (but trying to make this work from the KDE GUI) dual booting with WinXP The modem's a conexant hsf and I've d/l'd the apropriate driver from the linuxant site into the window$ partition in my /etc/fstab there's already this line: /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows ntfs umask=0,nls=iso8859-1,ro 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 and I can peek into the windoze partition from KDE in terminal I copied the driver into a disposable directory, cd'd into the directory with it and did: rpm -iv hsfverylongfilename.rpm now in GUI... in MCC - hardware - hardware ...the modem is *still* listed as unknown device. in MCC - network - make new connection ...I tell it modem, com3 (yes, 3), automatic on the IP, DNS, etc now get this: I got a handshake, then an error message (The system doesn't seem to be connected to the internet. Try to reconfigure your connection). so I took the @mindspring.com off my login (what the hey, it's helped in netscape) and now I don't even get a handshake. And the same error message. Put the login back as it was and *still* get no handshake. Fooled around with the authentication because I have no idea if I need PAP/CHAP (the default) or script based or what, and when I have it set to CHAP I once again get a handshake ...and the error message. Can anyone see where I'm screwing up? thanks Julie Julie You have a winmodem. It is sometimes *possible* to get these working under Linux, but it takes a great deal of hard work (as you've already discovered)! In the UK, high street electrical stores sell external modems for around £30 (probably even cheaper in the US - most things seem to be!) which will work fine under both Windows Linux (the packaging might not even mention Linux, and the salespeople will probably never have heard of it!) - just take it out of the box, plug in both ends, reboot both OSs should detect it automatically. Or, you could spend many hours, possibly even days, trying to get a winmodem to work. Time = money - but only you can work out whether it is worth spending several hours/days to save £30! Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Update to mdk 10 and problems with Mozilla 1.6
rosie wrote: I tried renaming the .mozilla directory and still Mozilla will not load, I have installed Firefox and that will not load either! Some new versions of Mozilla and Firefox need to be run as root first before they will run as user. Try calling them from a root terminal, then close, then try again as user, and let us know if it works or not. Oh, and please refrain from top-posting - see here for netiquette: http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MandrakeMailingListEtiquette Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Looking for the brother of FrontPage for Linux
Paul Smith wrote: Dear All I am looking for a program similar to FrontPage for Linux. Any ideas? Thanks in advance, Paul There are plenty of HTML editors for Linux, but the one that looks closest to FrontPage is Mozilla Composer - it has the same sort of system as FrontPage, where you can switch from GUI to the actual HTML and back again, edit in either (or combination of both) and then switch to the preview screen to view your result in the Moz browser. It is part of the standard Mozilla suite, so if you've got Mozilla installed, you've already got it, or it will be on your CDs. Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] XFCE4 looks like KDE...huh?
I've been using XFCE4 for a while now after switching from KDE - much quicker to load, simple layout, does what I want it to do...until now. I set a nice simple desktop layout - panel at the bottom, icons growing up the right hand side, taskbar at the top, a plain purple background with a small picture of my cat in the middle so I have a friendly face to look at when all windows are closed - my one concession to eye candy! Last night, while I was checking my emails, my desktop changed itself! I still have the same XFCE4 layout of panel, icons and taskbar, but my purple cat background disappeared and was replaced with what looks like KDE! Blue background, stars 10 logo bottom right, and a sprinkling of icons - the very same icons that I created on my desktop when I used KDE! Too tired to deal with it last night, so closed down left it to the morning. Booted logged in this morning, got a quick flash of my normal purple cat background, then the KDE lookalike background appeared again!!! Right-clicking on the desktop itself, and selecting the Change Desktop Background option, I get the standard Mandrake choices - what I'm seeing at the moment. And I tested the icons - they work (on a double-click). Using the XFCE4 settings launcher from the panel and choosing Desktop:backdrop it shows that I have selected the purple background with the centred picture of my cat - but this is not being displayed! What have I broken? How do I fix it? Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] XFCE4 looks like KDE...huh?
Todd Slater wrote: How are you starting XFce4? My initial thought is that you have some program running in the background that is changing your background. Switch on computer, select user 'margot', xfce4 is selected by default, enter my password...I usually have kppp and konsole running at startup from a saved session the day before, but I close everything else - I've found that xfce4 seems unable to save sessions if I leave OpenOffice open. Also, I'm not sure what you mean by icons growing up the right hand side. Are you using some other app to get icons on your desktop? Or, are you taking about the iconbox? Are you even using xfdesktop? Yes, the iconbox - mine is set to start at bottom right and grow upwards, so it normally contains 2 icons at startup - kppp and konsole - and acquires more during the day. Anyway, check your startup script and make sure you're not starting chbg or some such. Todd Errr...I'm afraid I have no idea where to find the startup script! And what is chbg? Thanks for your help so far. Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] XFCE4 looks like KDE...huh?
Job Evers wrote: I had a similar problem when I first started using pekwm. Everytime I fired up nautilus it also brought up the gnome background. I discovered that 'nautilus --no-desktop' fixes this problem. I am not sure if KDE/konquerer has a similar feature but it might be something to look into. Interesting...I looked into ksysguard, found that nautilus was running, killed it...and my normal desktop background is back! What is doubly interesting is that nautilus was running at all - I have never used it, so it must have started itself! I wonder why... Anyway, if it happens again, at least I know how to cure it - thanks! Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] XFCE4 looks like KDE...huh?
Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Thu, 2004-07-22 at 06:50, Margot wrote: Errr...I'm afraid I have no idea where to find the startup script! And what is chbg? Thanks for your help so far. Margot /etc/X11/xfce4/xinitrc Thanks Stephen! Well, here's the file - does it look normal? No mention of chbg, or of nautilus... xsetroot -solid black -cursor_name watch # fix broken $UID on some system... if test x$UID = x; then UID=`id -u` fi # Those are my settings, change them as appropriate... # Xft DPI: 96 # Xft.hintstyle: hintnone/hintslight/hintmedium/hintfull # Xft hinting: 1/0 #xrdb -nocpp -merge - EOF #Xft.dpi: 96 #Xft.hinting: 1 #Xft.hintstyle: hintmedium #EOF test -f $HOME/.Xmodmap xmodmap $HOME/.Xmodmap # Uncomment this if you want to load Xresources and/or Xdefaults # test -f $HOME/.Xresources xrdb -merge $HOME/.Xresources # test -f $HOME/.Xdefaults xrdb -merge $HOME/.Xdefaults # Launch xscreensaver (if available), but only as non-root user test $UID -gt 0 test -z $VNCSESSION xscreensaver -no-splash # Run xfce4-session if installed xfcesm=`which xfce4-session` case x$xfcesm in x|xno*) ;; *) exec $xfcesm # Shouldn't get there, but anyway... exit ;; esac # or use old-fashioned startup script otherwise xfce-mcs-manager xfwm4 --daemon # Start-up stuff from ~/Desktop/Autostart directory, if it exists # (as it seems to be the new standard) if test -d $HOME/Desktop/Autostart; then for i in `ls -1 -L ${HOME}/Desktop/Autostart/ 2/dev/null`; do if test -x $HOME/Desktop/Autostart/$i; then $HOME/Desktop/Autostart/$i fi done fi xftaskbar4 xfdesktop xfcalendar panel=`which xfce4-panel` case x$panel in x|xno*) ;; *) $panel ret=$? while test $ret -ne 0; do xmessage -center -file - -timeout 20 -title Error EOF A crash occured in the panel Please report this to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list Meanwhile the panel will be restarted EOF cat 2 EOF A crash occured in the panel Please report this to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list Meanwhile the panel will be restarted EOF $panel ret=$? done ;; esac xsetroot -bg white -fg red -solid black -cursor_name watch Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Monitoring quantity of internet usage
I'm considering upgrading to a broadband service sometime later in the year. Many of the packages available seem to be limited by *size* - eg Wanadoo has a package for £17.99 a month with a limit of 2GB per month and a package of 15GB per month for £27.99. Before deciding which package to go for, I need to know how much I'm using now - and then add a bit for safety! I don't really want to download or upload much more than I do already, but I just want to do it faster! Presumably somewhere in Mandrake (10CE currently) there's some sort of log which will tell me how much I upload/download daily, so I can check it over the course of a couple of months. What am I looking for, and where am I likely to find it? Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] How to decypher dialupscript
John Richard Smith wrote: Raffaele BELARDI wrote: John Richard Smith wrote: How to decypher dialupscript Where can I get a list of explanation of the messages the dial up window gives you in kppp ? John Not sure of what kppp prints since I don't use it, but V90 and older modems use the Hayes command set (i.e. AT commands), you can find explanation for example here: http://docs.kde.org/en/3.1/kdenetwork/kppp/appendix-hayes-commands.html raffaele Much obliged Raffaele,that was what I'm looking for, though I still have a few lines unexplained, this is what I'm getting after a particular recurrence like this, kppp logs on and emails download, then halfway through the process my ISP seems to cut me off, this causes kppp to redial with this error message, ATZ OK AT F1 V1 TERMINATION REASON.. NONE LAST TX rate N/A HIGHEST TX rate. 300 BPS LAST RX rate N/A HIGHEST RX rate. 300 BPS PROTOCOL N/A COMPRESSION. N/A Line QUALITY 255 Rx LEVEL 214 Highest Rx State 00 Highest TX State 00 EQM Sum. RBS Pattern. FF Rate Drop... FF Digital Loss Local Rtrn Count 00 Remote Rtrn Count... 00 V90 OK ATM1L1 OK ATDT147008089916080 NO CARRIER Question is why no carrier ? Immediately I redial she logs on as usual. This has now become a pattern. I don't understand the scale of report in the F's and the numbers, like Line QUALITY.. 255, is that good bad or indifferent. All my searches in google have come up with no detailed explanation, and although your suggestion is very helpful it isn't complete, as far as I can see. The basic questions I need answering are, Am I being cut off because my ISP is overloaded and needs to make room for others, Am I being cut off because of line quality or modem config. Am I being cut off because of software like guarddog(don't think so, but I'm not sure) etc. Or what ? John John, Judging by your email address, you're using Wanadoo - formerly known as Freeserve - as your ISP. I've noticed a considerable deterioration in their service since the rebranding. Although I pay for the Anytime package (unlimited access, but limited to 2-hour sessions), the connection often drops before the 2-hour limit is up, and sometimes it takes several attempts to get reconnected. This makes downloading my Mdk updates a complete nightmare! So, although it is worth checking that everything else is working OK, it's probably a Wanadoo problem. Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] How to decypher dialupscript
Martin Foster wrote: On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 11:46:18 +0100, John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK ATM1L1 OK ATDT147008089916080 Why are you using 1470 in front of your ISP's phone number? Judging by your email address, your ISP is FreeServe. When I had an account with them, it was unnecessary to use 1470. Freeserve is now Wanadoo - or, judging by their service, Wanadon't! I use the same number for dialup, and queried this with them - they said the 1470 is an essential part of their dialup number, or I'd get charged for the call by BT! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Xmms crashes
C. Tresenriter wrote: I have 10.0 Official installed and get sound with Realplay but xmms has problems. When I load a CD to play and click on a track it crashes. If I start a stream, it buffers and looks like it's connected - shows that it's a stereo signal, but there's no sound and the timer sits at zero. Then if I try to close it with the 'x' button, the button stays depressed and the app stays open. If I then try to go to right click and go to options or grab it at the top it closes. I'd thought it had something to do with the Arts soundwrapper - which I remember solved another problem in the past but removing it from the xmms info in the menu tool didn't help. Seems like I resolved this in an earlier version of MDK but I'm coming up blank this time. Does this behavior sound familiar to anyone? Curt Sounds very familiar - I have still never managed to get xmms to work without crashing - the only solution I found was to install beep media player and use that instead - it looks exactly the same as xmms, but obviously works slightly differently underneath. Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] The Mysteries of xfce4
Graham Watkins wrote: Hi Dudes, Thought I'd see what all the fuss is about with xfce4. Trouble is some things don't seem to work. Don't have any menus any more - is this right? The menus should appear if you right-click anywhere on the desktop. Did you not find this, or is it not working for you? And finally (for now) the terminal icon doesn't work (although I can get a terminal by opening the manual and starting another shell). I had the same problem - it seems to try to call up a type of terminal I didn't have installed! Solution was to right-click on the icon, select properties, and change the command to konsole. Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] The Mysteries of xfce4
Graham Watkins wrote: Margot wrote: Graham Watkins wrote: Hi Dudes, Thought I'd see what all the fuss is about with xfce4. Trouble is some things don't seem to work. Don't have any menus any more - is this right? The menus should appear if you right-click anywhere on the desktop. Did you not find this, or is it not working for you? Not working for me I'm afraid. And finally (for now) the terminal icon doesn't work (although I can get a terminal by opening the manual and starting another shell). I had the same problem - it seems to try to call up a type of terminal I didn't have installed! Solution was to right-click on the icon, select properties, and change the command to konsole. Margot Thanks Margot, I'll try that. I've R'ing the TFM and there seems to be loads more stuff I don't seem to have. This is what makes me think I'm missing parts of the package. I seem to remember that the main bit came from Charles Edwards' source, with some additional bits from either plf or contrib...might be worth opening up the software installer on MCC and just searching for anything with xfce4 in the name... Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mirror recommendations for urpmi?
Amy wrote: Okay, so my friend has me running a cooker install of Mandrake, architecture i586, and I need reliable mirrors. I've used http://urpmi.org/easyurpmi/index.php to set up my mirrors so far, but the ones I pick seem to either be really super slow, or really weird about how they update their files leaving me with missing files that it tells me I should be able to install, or having some files updated, but files that are also needed due to dependencies (like perl!) being older and not correct for what I'm installing and/or updating. I was hoping that you guys might be able to recommend some mirrors for me to try? I'm located in the SF bay area, CA, USA, so if possible, something close to me would be best, but I'll make due with something farther away if the mirror is reliable about being updated correctly. I suspect that the problem I'm having with firefox and thunderbird (separate thread posted for that) has something to do with files they depend on not being updated at the same time as they were. Thanks in advance! ^_^ Amy, as you're running cooker, many people here and on the expert list won't be able to help you with your problems because they won't be experiencing the same problems you're having. I suggest you subscribe to the cooker mailing list (http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/flists.php3) and lurk there for a while - you can't expect much in the way of tech support from the cooker list, it isn't designed for that, but at least you'll be able to keep an eye on the bug reports and fixes, some of which may be relevant to your situation. When selecting mirrors, it makes no difference where you live - you just need to find one that works for you. The proxad mirrors in France are generally reliable, but of course if everybody starts using a particular mirror it will get slower for everyone! Good luck! Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com