Re: [newbie] [Newbie] No control centre

2005-04-07 Thread Margot
Les Thomas wrote:
I have mandrake 10.1 , some how the control centre has dissapeared , I 
must have done something to either hide it or delte it .
I think  it must be deactivated but dont know where to look or how to 
get it back up
Les


Which control centre is missing? Mandrake control centre, or the one for 
KDE?

Is it just missing from your menus? Can you call it up from a terminal? 
Please try from a terminal - if it doesn't work, please tell us what 
error message you get.

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Re: [newbie] [Newbie] No control centre

2005-04-07 Thread Margot
LES wrote:
On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 19:49, Margot wrote:
Les Thomas wrote:
I have mandrake 10.1 , some how the control centre has dissapeared , I
must have done something to either hide it or delte it .
I think  it must be deactivated but dont know where to look or how to
get it back up
Les
Which control centre is missing? Mandrake control centre, or the one for
KDE?
Is it just missing from your menus? Can you call it up from a terminal?
Please try from a terminal - if it doesn't work, please tell us what
error message you get.
Mandrake control centre is missing , I may not be doing it right , but I cant 
access it from the terminal , I have tried  to run it from the run command 
and nothing . I thought it would start if I just entered MCC in the terminal 
window , but obviously I´m  wrong 

From a terminal, the command is mcc, not MCC. If you do it from a user 
terminal, you will be asked for the root password. Please do it from a 
proper terminal window, not the run command feature - so, if it 
doesn't work, we can see what error message you get.

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Re: [newbie] Strange thing when I try to make urpmi.update

2005-04-04 Thread Margot
Anders Lind wrote:
Hello friends,
I am experiencing a very weird thing when I try to make urpmi.update,
because I am
at work I cannot make an update with the CD's in the drive, anyway, I have
commented
those rows out and just have Charles site left as a media, but when I do the
urpmi.update
I get the errormessage:
The entry to update is missing
(one of eslrahc)
but it is present in urpmi.cfg and also there is no problem using the
urpmi-command.
I am stumped
/Anders
You can't just do urpmi.update - you have to tell it *what* to update. 
Either

urpmi.update -a (which will update all the media you have enabled), or
urpmi.update eslrahc (which will update only the medium named eslrahc)
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Re: Adobe Acrobat Spying on Users (Re: [newbie] Adobe Reader

2005-04-03 Thread Margot
Stephen Kühn wrote:
On Sun, 2005-04-03 at 10:25, Derek Jennings wrote:

I gave up spying on you when you started sitting at your terminal naked.

Now if only Anne and Margot would stop...
Sorry, I can't stop - I'd have to *start* first ;-)
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Re: [newbie] Failed Install

2005-04-02 Thread Margot
Mr. Geek wrote:
Aron Smith wrote:
Ok I tried Mdk 10.2RC2 mini no joy
then I tried 10.1 community no joy (used for a previous install)
then I tried the 2 CD set from linux Journal no joy the message is the 
same in all cases
--
failed to load `/mnt/tmp/drakX-images/01.png
: fatal error in png image file iDAT :CRC error

You know Aron, you shouldn't see this as a personal failure. Lots of 
people fail to install and they still manage to cope with day-to-day 
life and ,OH! Sorry!

I accidentally posted this to the wrong list! It was intended for the 
Microsoft Users Group! My apologies!

Damn Outlook Express! Grrr!
You're a day late - April Fools Day was yesterday! At least...I *hope* 
you were joking ;-)

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Re: [newbie] To Twiki Editors, Welcome to Newbie Manager and List-Members.

2005-03-29 Thread Margot
, 
and if they think newsletters (or something else) would be a good idea, etc.

Just my thoughts...
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Re: [newbie] Which Kernel For 10.1 ?

2005-03-24 Thread Margot
Mr. Geek wrote:
Pete Moscatt wrote:
Thanks Mr Geek (I like the name...),

Pete

Nice of you to notice. I got fed up with being called a 'Geek' all the 
time, so I decided to add the 'Mr' in the hopes it might make people 
respect me more.

Unfortunately, it hasn't helped much, but at least it brings a smile to 
a few faces now and then! Sigh. Besides, it's like they say,when 
you're this old, they call you Mister! Grin!

I like your real name better, though ;-)
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Re: [newbie] Learning Mandrake in the UK

2005-03-24 Thread Margot
DAN WALKER wrote:
Are there any good reasonable priced courses, books or
similar in the UK that I may attend? I want to learn
how to run this thing. I am using it as a web server.
I want to know all about setting the security up,
making my machine hard to hack etc. It is connected to
a 34Mbit connection to the net so someone would love
to abuse it. 

Thanks
Dan
You didn't say where you are in the UK, but have a look here and see if 
there's a LUG near you:

http://www.lug.org.uk/lugs/index.php
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Re: [newbie] Minimal install

2005-03-23 Thread Margot
Aron Smith wrote:
What would the minium package needed to get Mandrake up and running so you 
could use urpmi to complete the installation? could it possibly be as small 
as i cd?


A mini-iso for 10.2 is available, which looks like it will take about 
half a CD:
http://anorien.csc.warwick.ac.uk/mirrors/Mandrakelinux/devel/iso/10.2/i586/
(and presumably on other cooker mirrors too)

I haven't tried it myself, but I assume it must contain urpmi so you can 
then download the rest of what you need. Bear in mind that this is 
*cooker*, so there may well be problems!
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Re: [newbie] connecting camera using the PTP protocol

2005-03-20 Thread Margot
Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote:
Lastly, I'd recommend getting the latest packages for Digikam.  The ones
with the distro are fairly old, and it sometimes helps.  I'm running
digikam-0.7.1-1tex.i586.rpm.
Anne

Okay - thought I would do that.  Tried urpmi but it wouldn't do it.  Can't 
remember speciafically the message.  It was about updating I think - so did 
the update.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] rosemary]# urpmi digikam-0.7.1-1tex.i586
urpmi database locked
If your urpmi database is locked, which often happens after a failed or 
interrupted download/installation, as root in terminal:
		rm /var/lib/urpmi/.LOCK
and
		rm /var/lib/urpmi/.RPMLOCK

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Re: [newbie] urpmi database blocked

2005-03-11 Thread Margot
Tahir Abdullah wrote:
Thanks Aron
When I tried to follow the three steps on the web-site following error 
comes
urpmi database locked
WHat is this problem.

This usually happens after failed or interrupted download/installation. 
To cure it, as root in terminal:

rm /var/lib/urpmi/.LOCK
and
rm /var/lib/urpmi/.RPMLOCK
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Re: [newbie] scribus users, pls help. pasting text longer than 1 page.

2005-03-09 Thread Margot
Fajar Priyanto wrote:
Hi all,
I tried to make an article using Scribus. First I typed the article in text 
editor, then copy paste it in scribus. The article is kind of longer than 1 
page, so the rest of the article isn't visible. The second page is blank.

Can I make scribus to automatically put the rest of the article in the second 
page?
Thanks.
Yes, you can. Make a text frame on your second page, link the two text 
frames, and the invisible text will automatically flow into the second 
text frame.

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Re: [newbie] scribus users, pls help. pasting text longer than 1 page.

2005-03-09 Thread Margot
Anne Wilson wrote:
On Wednesday 09 Mar 2005 14:07, Margot wrote:
If you know in advance the the text won't fit in one frame:
Create the first text frame, create the second text frame, select the
first frame, click the toolbar button marked Link Text Frames, click
into the second frame to create the link, go back to the first frame and
use the Story Editor to place the text into the frame and it will
automatically flow the text from one frame to the next.
If you have text already in a frame, but not enough space so part of the
text is invisible:
Create a second frame, select the first frame, click the toolbar button
marked Link Text Frames, click into the second frame to create the
link and the remaining text will automatically appear in the new frame.
Linked frames are outlined in red, and there will be a cross in a box at
the bottom right of the last frame in a series if there is still some
text that is not yet visible.

Oops!  For some reason I'm totally text-oriented, so I look at menus and 
context-menus but miss icons!  I should have seen that.  Thanks

Anne
I've only been playing with Scribus for 2 days - linking text frames is 
about all I've managed to work out so far! I'll be back with some 
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Re: [newbie] Microsoft overrules EU Council

2005-03-07 Thread Margot
Isaac Hummel wrote:
Duncan Anderson wrote:
Huh, this is the kind of dictatorial fascism that Europe is so good 
at. They have proved it over and over again in the past, so why should 
this be any different? Greed rather than justice, for ever!

Bunch of Nazis!

http://catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/G/Godwins-Law.html

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Re: [newbie] urpmi --fuzzy downloads without asking!

2005-03-06 Thread Margot
JR wrote:
when I do urpmi --fuzzy package, it sometimes downloads the package anyway, 
without giving me a choice. Am I misunderstanding this switch? I expected to 
be asked regardless how many similar packages there were (even if there was 
only one)

Jarlath

urpmi --fuzzy package *does* automatically download the package if 
there is only one matching. If you only want to see what is available, 
but not download, you should use

urpmq --fuzzy package
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Re: [newbie] any question

2005-03-04 Thread Margot
Mr. Geek wrote:
Chuck MATTSEN wrote:
On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 23:20:28 -0500
Mr. Geek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Which brings up the question on every perverts mind - I wonder if 
someone is building an XXX-rated distro of Linux yet?

LinuXXX?

Hmmm - That could work! We could even add videos of Pamela Anderson, 
and, Ah, No, everyone's seen those.


Sinux?

This one wouldn't work well. Some Microsoft geek would turn it into S-UX 
or something. Either that or they'd confuse it with a cold remedy. I 
like your first one better.

A linux distro that is also a cold remedy? I'd actually be prepared to 
*pay* for one of those! (Now, where did I put that box of tissues? Sneeze)

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Re: [newbie] Quotas :o(

2005-03-04 Thread Margot
Ken Walker wrote:
So your saying that everybody in newbie is also in expert and everybody in
expert is also in newbie, so why are there two different groups. Why not
just have one called mandrake-users
Isn't it better to ask all groups relative to the same subject the same
question, just in case one of those members, who might not be in the other
groups, knows the answer.
I'm afraid I know nothing of quotas, so I can't answer your original 
question, but there is a *very* good reason for not cross-posting the 
same message to both the newbie and expert lists...Sympa (the mandrake 
mailing list handler) cannot cope with cross-posting so, instead of one 
copy of your message going to the newbie list and one to the expert 
list, BOTH copies reached the newbie list!

I suggest you try a new message to the expert list, where someone may be 
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Re: [newbie] any question

2005-03-03 Thread Margot
Chuck MATTSEN wrote:
On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 15:34:55 +0100
Stefan Tulak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I've installed mandrakelinux for one month and I'm very pleasured.
 ^^
Now /there's/ a thread for the Off-Topic list if I've ever seen one.  Do
you own any goats?
You don't actually have to *own* goats to join the OT list, but it helps 
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[newbie] Xfce4 user login broken

2005-02-20 Thread Margot
When I try to login to Xfce4 as user, either from the login manager 
or by using 'startxfce4' from a terminal, I get a few seconds of the 
Xfce 'mouse' (or is it meant to be a rat?) logo flashing, and then I 
just get the blue screen with the Mandrake logo. As normal user, I 
can log into KDE with no problem - but I'd rather not have to!

Doing 'startxfce4' as root works fine - but of course I'm then 
logged in as root!

Because it works as root but not as a normal user, and KDE is not 
affected, I assume that it is something in my Xfce user config that 
is broken, not Xfce itself.

I'm sure there must be some way to fix this, but I'm not sure where 
to start. Everything was fine yesterday, but not working when I 
rebooted this morning.

[I blame the cat - attempting sneaky overnight downloads of 'kitty 
porn' must have corrupted a file somewhere!]

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Re: [newbie] Xfce4 user login broken

2005-02-20 Thread Margot
Stephen Kühn wrote:
On Mon, 2005-02-21 at 06:47, Margot wrote:
When I try to login to Xfce4 as user, either from the login manager 
or by using 'startxfce4' from a terminal, I get a few seconds of the 
Xfce 'mouse' (or is it meant to be a rat?) logo flashing, and then I 
just get the blue screen with the Mandrake logo. As normal user, I 
can log into KDE with no problem - but I'd rather not have to!

Doing 'startxfce4' as root works fine - but of course I'm then 
logged in as root!

Because it works as root but not as a normal user, and KDE is not 
affected, I assume that it is something in my Xfce user config that 
is broken, not Xfce itself.

I'm sure there must be some way to fix this, but I'm not sure where 
to start. Everything was fine yesterday, but not working when I 
rebooted this morning.

[I blame the cat - attempting sneaky overnight downloads of 'kitty 
porn' must have corrupted a file somewhere!]

Margot,
Login as root, cd into your USER home dir, rename the .cache directory,
then logoff, and try logging in again with XFce...
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Re: [newbie] Xfce4 user login broken

2005-02-20 Thread Margot
Michel Leunen wrote:
Margot wrote:
When I try to login to Xfce4 as user, either from the login manager or 
by using 'startxfce4' from a terminal, I get a few seconds of the Xfce 
'mouse' (or is it meant to be a rat?) logo flashing, and then I just 
get the blue screen with the Mandrake logo.

Everything was fine yesterday, but not working when I rebooted this 
morning.

Just a guess. In the meantime didn't you change the 
~/.config/xfce4/initrc file? I just had the same behavior with a wrong 
initrc. To test, just rename initrc and launch xfce without it. It must 
start without a glitch.

Michel
Michel,
Thanks for your response. Couldn't find the file you mentioned - 
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Re: [newbie] Xfce4 user login broken

2005-02-20 Thread Margot
Mr. Geek wrote:
Margot wrote:
[I blame the cat - attempting sneaky overnight downloads of 'kitty 
porn' must have corrupted a file somewhere!]

Margot; Maybe the cat and the kitty-porn scared the XFCE Mouse into 
shock? BTW, How's Rival, Felix, Simone, the goat and the duck?

BTW, Was the boxing match that bad?
Mr. Geek
Registered Linux User #190712
I recognise that Linux User number! Trying to sneak up on me by 
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Re: [newbie] Task Manager

2005-02-09 Thread Margot
Angus Auld wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Dan Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
Subject: Re: [newbie] Task Manager
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 20:28:00 -0500

On February 8, 2005 10:03 pm, Fernando Arturo Gómez Flores wrote:
As a old Windows user, I find really useful the Windows' Task
Manager utility, where I can close applications, check resources,
etc. I actually don't know if there is a similar application already
developed, but I'm willing to make one, based on the /proc files and
kernel stuff. However, this email is for asking if some already
knows of an application as the Task manager, so I don't waste time
programming such application...
I like gnome-system-monitor although I am sure there are others as
well.
Regards,
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For those NOT using the KDE desktop, the same utility is available 
by using the command ksysguard in a terminal - do it from a root 
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Re: [newbie] To Chris Lane

2005-01-31 Thread Margot
Julie Sloan wrote:
JoeHill wrote:
On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 12:24:27 -0500
Carroll Grigsby disseminated the following:

Don't the list rules require that Mr. Lane send a case of good stuff 
to each of who received an out-of-office message?

Case? I'm thinkin' Zip-Loc bag, but that's just me...
It's just me too...

A decent sized case will contain several bags...enough for all of 
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Re: [newbie] locked directory

2005-01-25 Thread Margot
Julie Sloan wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Jan 25, 2005 5:31 PM
To: Julie Sloan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] locked directory
On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 20:19, Julie Sloan wrote:
suddenly I have a padlock icon on my/root   directory.  The contents of the 
directory are as follows:

# ls -a  big snip
I've looked in the MCC/security   (I'm on Mandrake 10.0, running the KDE desktop
environment)   and find the permissions on the locked   /root   are 700 and I 
can't
change them; my security level is (was) set at 2 with all defaults.
'nother big snip
Help?
Julie

You are looking as root, aren't you?
Yes I am.  Can't get into the MCC other than as root.
Julie
But are you looking at the /root directory as root?
if you are logged in as a normal user, you have to become root in 
order to use the root directory.

Do kdesu konqueror (without the quotes) from a command line, give 
root's password, and you should get access.

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Re: [newbie] Modifying the KDE menu

2005-01-25 Thread Margot
Lanman wrote:
Hi Gang. I've been trying to find out how to permanently modify the 
KDE3.2 and 3.3 menus and I'm not getting anywhere.

For instance, if I add/delete entries in the KDE menu using menudrake, 
(selecting the System Menu option), those changes are saved, however, 
as soon as I re-open menudrake, it reloads the default menu and I have 
to start all over again.

KDE also provides it's own menu editor (kmenu) in KControl, but it does 
the same thing, except it does it only for the current user. It also 
reloads the default menu when it's launched again.

On the other hand, KDE's kiosktool is a bit more radical than I'd prefer 
 to use.

Can someone shed a bit of light on this? I haven't been able to find a 
way to make my menu changes permanent or in other words how to make my 
revised menu the default for all users, even after I re-start menudrake.

Any help would be appreciated, since I can't seem to find anything on 
Google that helps.

Did you remember to run update-menus -v as root, after installing 
or uninstalling software and before running menudrake? Or, 
update-menus -n if you're not interested in seeing the output, but 
as you're having problems the -v option would probably be more 
useful.

Also, in menudrake, select Menu Style and choose the Original 
menus (the bottom option on the list) - I've never managed to get 
any of the other styles to work!

Or, for a more radical solution, abandon KDE, use Xfce instead, and 
add Trigger Launchers to the panel for the applications that you 
need to use regularly.
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Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems

2005-01-22 Thread Margot
Julie Sloan wrote:
BTW I've located my mailboxes - all with weird names but oh well, I can 
get the data out of them now - - but where is my KMail addresbook?  All 
I've found so far is recently used addresses, which is nicely more 
than I had a few hours ago but still not the entire mailing list, not to 
mention the individual information I had stashed on each card.

Julie,
I suggest you start new threads for each new problem you encounter - 
I can't help with Kmail addressbook as I've never used Kmail, and I 
don't even use KDE - but if you start a thread marked lost Kmail 
addressbook I'm sure that someone here will be able to help you 
find it.

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Re: [newbie] help

2005-01-22 Thread Margot
dave needham wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] id1davewp]$ su
Password:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] id1davewp]# urpmi.removemedia
the entry to remove is missing
(one of update_source, Installation DVD (cdrom1))
[EMAIL PROTECTED] id1davewp]# urpmi.removemedia
the entry to remove is missing
(one of update_source, Installation DVD (cdrom1))
[EMAIL PROTECTED] id1davewp]# urpmi.removemedia
the entry to remove is missing
(one of update_source, Installation DVD (cdrom1))
[EMAIL PROTECTED] id1davewp]#
please help.not sure what whent wrong...
dave

Dave,
What's wrong is that you aren't telling it *what* to remove!
There is no need to remove your existing media, but, if you are 
really sure that you want to, these are the correct commands:

urpmi.removemedia -a (will remove all existing media) or
urpmi.removemedia xyz (will remove a single medium named xyz - you 
have to supply the correct name!)

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Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems

2005-01-22 Thread Margot
Lanman wrote:
Damn Stephen! Did you have to list every one of our flaws? There's 
honesty and then there's Brutal honesty! Nest thing you know, women will 
be dating their hard drives, Sigh! Well, maybe I can just increase my 
support contracts instead! Grin!

Way to go! Now the secret's out of the bag!
snicker
Can I sign up for a 'support contract'? I'm afraid I can't afford to 
pay in *cash*...but I can't afford a bigger hard drive either! ;-)

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Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems

2005-01-22 Thread Margot
Stephen Kühn wrote:
On Sun, 2005-01-23 at 09:42, Julie Sloan wrote:
Goats are accepted in lieu of cash, Margot.

Pssst, Margot - - my nextdoor neightbors are raising goats and wouldn't 
miss a couple!

J

Goat steak, goat stew, goat pie, goat cheese, goat ala mode, goat ala
carte, goat burgers, goat kebabs, goat gyros, goat sausages, goat
patties, goat casserole...the list goes on.
My barbie is primed up and ready.
Nooo! I think we'd better transfer any further 'goat' discussion 
to the OT list...

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Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems

2005-01-22 Thread Margot
Julie Sloan wrote:
Stephen Kühn wrote:
On Sun, 2005-01-23 at 09:18, Margot wrote:
Can I sign up for a 'support contract'?

Goats are accepted in lieu of cash, Margot.

Pssst, Margot - - my nextdoor neightbors are raising goats and wouldn't 
miss a couple!

J
Please send 2 nice goats direct to Lanman - it would be cruel to 
ship the poor creatures all the way to England and then all the way 
back to Canada! Thanks!

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Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems

2005-01-20 Thread Margot
Julie Sloan wrote:
Hi all - -
I see this mentioned in the Cooker archives, May and December 2003, but 
if someone also posted a solution I either missed it or am too dense to 
recognize it for what it is.
FWIW the archive subject lines are:
[Cooker] urpmi bug or not? (probably something with virtual packages...) 
and
[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] arts-1.1.2-2mdk

A couple days ago I commenced my first large update; also my first time 
using urpmi.  With quite a bit of help on another forum, I worked 
through several problems, but now I seem stuck at:

=
kdebase is needed by krozat-10.1-3.1.101mdk
kdebase = 3.1 is needed by kdenetwork-common-3.2.3-19.2.101mdk
=
So... now... should my next step be to locate  download the kdebase and 
the kdebase =3.1, and if so, is there a particular download site that's 
recommended?

I'm on Mandrake 10.1
thanks,
Julie
Julie,
I think you're slightly misunderstanding the error messages. The 
first part tells you that krozat needs kdebase, but doesn't need any 
particular version of kdebase. The second part tells you that 
kdenetwork-common needs kdebase, and it must have a version of 
kdebase that is greater than or equal to 3.1 - so to satisfy the 
needs of both krozat and kdenetwork-common, you only need to have 
one kdebase package, but it must be = 3.1.

First, check what version of kdebase you have installed - if any! 
Open the Mandrake Control Center, go to the Software Management 
section, select Remove (don't worry, we're not going to actually 
remove anything, but if something appears in the Remove list it must 
have been installed in the first place!), make sure the radio button 
for All packages, alphabetical is checked, then scroll down the 
list to see if there's a kdebase package. If there is, what is the 
exact version listed?

Then, report back here...
Mine says kdebase-3.2.3-134.4.101mdk - yours, if you have one at 
all, might be different but should be in the same format.

On another list you mentioned that you bought the Mandrake CDs last 
summer - as 10.1 didn't exist then, are the CDs for 10.0? Because 
you now say you're running 10.1 - did you just install 10.0 from the 
CDs and then set your urpmi sources for version 10.1? This would 
account for the huge volume of updates you've been getting, and 
might also explain some of the problems you've been having.

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Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems

2005-01-20 Thread Margot
Julie Sloan wrote:
Margot wrote:
First, check what version of kdebase you have installed - if any! Open 
the Mandrake Control Center, 

Unable to run the command specified. The file or folder 
file:/usr/share/applnk-mdk/System/Configuration/Configure your 
computer.desktop does not exist.


Then, report back here...

ok...
$ locate kdebase
/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kdebase-common-3.2.3-134.4.101mdk.i586.rpm
/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libkdebase4-3.2.3-134.4.101mdk.i586.rpm
/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libkdebase4-konsole-3.2.3-134.4.101mdk.i586.rpm
/usr/share/doc/HTML/en/kdebase-3.2-apidocs
/usr/share/doc/HTML/en/kdebase-3.2-apidocs/common
/usr/share/doc/HTML/en_GB/khelpcenter/userguide/kdebase-apps.docbook
/usr/share/locale/en_GB/LC_MESSAGES/desktop_kdebase.mo
/usr/lib/menu/simplified/kdebase-basedir
...and then a bunch in the /usr/lib/menu directory
Mine says kdebase-3.2.3-134.4.101mdk - yours, if you have one at all, 
might be different but should be in the same format.

On another list you mentioned that you bought the Mandrake CDs last 
summer - as 10.1 didn't exist then, are the CDs for 10.0? Because you 
now say you're running 10.1 - did you just install 10.0 from the CDs 
and then set your urpmi sources for version 10.1? This would account 
for the huge volume of updates you've been getting, and might also 
explain some of the problems you've been having.

Aha.  Yes.  Oops.  Help?
Julie
OK Julie, decision time! You have vital parts of Mandrake missing 
(Mandrake Control Center) as well as vital parts of KDE. You can go 
one of 2 ways:

- Complete reinstall of 10.0 from the CDs (wipe out absolutely 
everything!), set urpmi sources for 10.0 and end up with a working, 
fully-updated 10.0 system - this is the easy option!

- Continue with 10.1, searching for vital parts and installing them 
manually, and tweaking the configuration gradually as you go - this 
will be a lot of hard work, but a good learning experience!

Have a think, work out how brave you're feeling, and let us know.

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Re: [newbie] Anyone using KDar

2005-01-15 Thread Margot
Anne Wilson wrote:
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On Saturday 15 Jan 2005 09:55, Dick Gevers wrote:
On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:09:55 +, Dick Gevers wrote about Re: [newbie]
Anyone using KDar:
On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:31:34 +, Anne Wilson wrote about Re: [newbie]

Does it work OK with DVD-RW, Dick?
It should, but I have no way to tell as I have no such hardware. I assume
it does, if you'll bear the same in mind as I reported in the bugs above.
I realized only much later: your question seems to imply that Kdar would
actually write to CD or DVD. It doesn't. It creates an archive the size of
any media (bearing in mind the bugs) and the archive should be burned to
media by the user. So, my answer could also have been: It works with any
media, but I haven't tried any larger than 703 Mb.
Of course.  The only time I tried to use DrakBackup I found that the problem 
was the need for space for a huge tar file, which I didn't have.  I guess 
that KDar will have the same need.  ATM I'm still manually copying files to 
CD or DVD with XCDRoast.  I really must get a better way sorted - it's very 
inefficient.

Anne
I just had a look at KDar, and it seems to have all the features I 
need and it looks easy to use. I've been using DrakBackup until now, 
which was somewhat unwieldy, so I probably haven't been backing up 
as often as I ought to have been!

At first glance, KDar has one enormous advantage over DrakBackup - 
it can be run by an ordinary user, whereas DrakBackup has to be run 
as root. I can understand why most of the Drak  Drake functions 
need to be run as root - we don't want users messing with 
configuration options they might not understand - but backups? 
Surely we should be *encouraging* users to make backups, rather than 
preventing it?

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Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config resolv.config files

2005-01-08 Thread Margot
Angus Auld wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
Subject: Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config  resolv.config 
files
Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 23:09:52 +

On Saturday 08 January 2005 19:24, Angus Auld wrote:
Greetings, I wonder if some kind soul here could instruct/inform me on how
I can properly config these files??
What should they contain and how should they look on my 10.1 system?
I just setup ADSL broadband, and I fear I messed things up a bit. ;-)
My broadband is working OK, but my local hostname is now (none),
as in #gus@(none) gus.
I have been searching documentation and Google, but I'm still dumb
on this (and lots of other stuff too).
Help would be truly appreciated.
Best regards.
--Angus
Your Host name is set up in the file /etc/sysconfig/network
Add a line in the format
HOSTNAME=your_host_name.localdomain
(you can pick any name for your local domain, but do not use a Fully Qualified
Domain Name unless you actually own it. I just use 'localdomain' in my
network)
The file /etc/hosts defines a lookup table to match IP addresses to hostnames.
The only line that is essential in this table is
127.0.0.1   localhost
If you are using static addressing in your network then you should provide a
list of IP addresses in the network with their corresponding hostnames. You
can have multiple hostnames per IP address. For example
192.168.1.1 your_host_name.localdomain  server  downstairs-computer
/etc/resolv.conf  defines how your computer will try to resolve IP addresses
from hostnames. It should look somethng like
search localdomain
nameserver 192.168.1.251
This tells it to look in the local domain first, and then if the host is not
present to ask the named DNS server. You should use the IP address of your
ISPs DNS server, or a DNS proxy  (ADSL routers usually operate as a DNS
proxy) If you are using DHCP these settings will be automatically overridden
by the DNS server.
hosts.config is not familiar to me. I do not have that file.
HTH
derek
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Thank you Derek for the reply. I am really new at this network stuff. :-)
I have been using dial-up for all my years of computing, and I just started 
using braodband now that it has finally come here to the boonies.

I edited some of the mentioned files, and my hostname is once again 
localhost.
I changed my eth0: Broadcom Corp BCM4401 100Base-T connection 
to use DHCP Protocol, but now when I boot my comp, booting hangs 
at bringing up eth0 for a long while, and finally fails trying to determine 
IP configuration. :-(
The part that puzzles me is that ppp0 comes up OK, and my connection 
is working great.
What gives here anyway? Doesn't ppp0 use my Broadcom nic???

I am dazed and confused. [8/
Regards.
--Angus
I had the same problem - don't know what causes it, but the solution 
for me was to set the connection *not* to start at boot - once 
booted, open a terminal as root and do ifup eth0 (without the 
quotes) and everything works from then on.

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Re: [newbie] You may want to update your urpmi database

2004-12-31 Thread Margot
Anne Wilson wrote:
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On Friday 31 Dec 2004 14:52, Martin Hardie wrote:
Paul and Anne
...retrieving failed: curl failed: exited with 9 or signal 0
what is the significance of these entries whichi have extraced from below:
no hdlist file found for medium main
no hdlist file found for medium main
no hdlist file found for medium contrib
It sounds to be in a real muddle.  Here's what I would do.  Open Mandrake 
Control Centre  Software Management  Media Manager and remove *all* your 
sources.  

If you are on dial-up, from a root console enter
urpmi.addmedia --distrib cdrom removable://mnt/cdrom
with CD1 in the drive.  Skip this if you have broadband
If you are on broadband go to
http://www.urpmi-addmedia.org/index2.php
and select sources from each group
Whether on broadband or not, from that page you will want a plf source.
Finally, follow Lanman's advice about adding your own rpm repository, and you 
should have a good working setup.

When choosing your sources, from easyurpmi, bear time-zones in mind.  If the 
mirror you choose is likely to be on a quiet phase at the time that you 
normally download that should give you a reaonable connection speed.  Mirrors 
do vary on speed, but you can always change a mirror later if you have 
problems.

Anne
You may also have more success if you use wget instead of curl. As 
root, open file  /etc//urpmi/urpmi.cfg and add the following to the 
top of the file:

{
downloader: wget
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Re: [newbie] XFCE-taskbar plugin?

2004-12-15 Thread Margot
Kenneth Rhodes wrote:
Hi,
I noticed that the taskbar plugin was missing from the recent 
announcement posted by Charles.

Also, it appears that the taskbar link is broken from the
page:
http://www.eslrahc.com/10.1/xfce-taskbar-plugin-0.2.2-0.1010.1mdk.i586.rpm
Its kinda strange running XFCE without a taskbar, over all XFCE
is becoming THE DESKTOP manager IMHO. :)
I take it the XFCE taskbar is under construction?
Thanks to Charles for hosting eslrachc.com.
Kenneth Rhodes
100% MicroSoft Free!
That's strange - I have the taskbar installed  running on xfce on 10.1!
xfce-taskbar-plugin-0.2.2-0.1010.1mdk shows as installed on the 
software section of MCC, and I assumed it came from eslrahc. Each 
time I've updated xfce, I've had to reactivate the taskbar - just 
run the command xftaskbar4 and it appears - have you tried this?

PS Please remove your Reply-to setting so replies will go to the 
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Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem

2004-12-10 Thread Margot
Kaj Haulrich wrote:
On Friday 10 December 2004 11:37, Keith Powell wrote:
I KNOW that this has been asked before, but I can't find the
answer in the archives or in twiki. Sorry for asking it again.
I have a new machine, and now, when I close down, everything
closes down correctly, but then Mandrake does not actually switch
the computer off.
If I remember correctly, there is something to change in the
lilo.conf file, but I can't remember what it is - not having
needed it before.
Please, what is it?
Many thanks
Keith

In /etc/lilo.conf try editing the append-line, especially the apic 
thing. Remove it completely or set it to apic=ht or noapic.

HTH
Kaj Haulrich.
Kaj, I think you're mixing up apic and acpi!
The options for apic include noapic and/or nolapic. The options for 
acpi include acpi=on, acpi=off and acpi=ht.

There doesn't seem to be any magic formula for which combinations 
of these options will work - it seems to be just a case of trial and 
error until you hit the particular combination that will give you a 
clean shutdown.

Keith, if you still have problems after checking all possible 
combinations of apic  acpi, you might need to try a different kernel.
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Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem

2004-12-10 Thread Margot
Keith Powell wrote:
Margot wrote:
Kaj Haulrich wrote:
On Friday 10 December 2004 11:37, Keith Powell wrote:
I have a new machine, and now, when I close down, everything
closes down correctly, but then Mandrake does not actually switch
the computer off.
If I remember correctly, there is something to change in the
lilo.conf file, but I can't remember what it is - not having
needed it before.
Please, what is it?
Many thanks
Keith


In /etc/lilo.conf try editing the append-line, especially the apic 
thing. Remove it completely or set it to apic=ht or noapic.

HTH
Kaj Haulrich.

Kaj, I think you're mixing up apic and acpi!
The options for apic include noapic and/or nolapic. The options for 
acpi include acpi=on, acpi=off and acpi=ht.

There doesn't seem to be any magic formula for which combinations of 
these options will work - it seems to be just a case of trial and 
error until you hit the particular combination that will give you a 
clean shutdown.

Keith, if you still have problems after checking all possible 
combinations of apic  acpi, you might need to try a different kernel.

Thanks Margot.
Sometime, I must find out the difference between apic and apci - I 
thought they were almost the same!

But, at the moment, Tom's reply has made me very depressed to find out 
that my new computer is no good!

I don't think that it can be the kernel, as everything closed down OK on 
my old machine.

Cheers
Keith
Keith,
Don't get too depressed! Tom's a bit of a perfectionist when it 
comes to hardware - and he's saved me a lot of heartache on many 
occasions - but if everything else is working for you except the 
shutdown, then your new computer is probably fine. Just experiment a 
bit with the apic  acpi options in the kernel append line, and 
you'll probably find some combination that works - it just might 
take a few shutdown/reboots to hit the ideal mix!
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Re: [newbie] Xfce 4.2 on Mandrake 9.1

2004-11-25 Thread Margot
Anders Lind wrote:
If you are installing via rpm the build order has nothing to do with it.
If you are speaking of the Order in which I build the rpms, I have done
it so many times I could do it in my sleep.
If you are running 4.0.6, whether you are using rpms from my site or
those from a Mdk mirror you are still Using My rpms as I uploaded both.
---
So the different modules doesn't depend on each other?
/Anders
Anders,
Trust Charles, trust me! I used his Xfce on 10, and I'm now using 
his latest version on 10.1, and it's beautiful!

Just go to his site www.eslrahc.com, follow the instructions he 
gives to set it as an urpmi source for whichever Mandrake you're 
running, then use urpmi to install - works perfectly, and I'm sure 
you'll be impressed with the result!

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Re: [newbie] Firefox Mouse Config

2004-11-18 Thread Margot
JoeHill wrote:
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 19:43:45 -0700
mike disseminated the following:

mousewheel.withnokey.sysnumlinesuserset   boolean   false

Ack! I missed that one. Many thanks!
Maybe you just need to buy a faster mouse? ;-)
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Re: [newbie] urpmi - file not found - FIXED

2004-11-16 Thread Margot
Margot wrote:
Kaj Haulrich wrote:
On Wednesday 10 November 2004 17:39, Fajar Priyanto wrote:
Hi folks,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] monmon]# urpmi --auto-select
To satisfy dependencies, the following package is going to be
installed (3 MB):
urpmi-4.6-1mdk.noarch
Is this OK? (Y/n) y
  ftp://mdk.linux.org.tw/pub/mandrakelinux/devel/10.1/i586/media/ma
in/urpmi-4.6-1mdk.noarch.rpm ...retrieving failed: curl failed:
exited with 19 or signal 0
Installation failed, some files are missing:
  ftp://mdk.linux.org.tw/pub/mandrakelinux/devel/10.1/i586/media/ma
in/urpmi-4.6-1mdk.noarch.rpm You may want to update your urpmi
database
...retrieving failed: curl: (19) Given file does not exist
Is it normal? I mean temporary failure only? I have changed the
source to several servers, but same result.
Thanks.

Just like it says : update your urpmi database and try again.
This usually works for me  (as root) : rpm --rebuilddb.
HTH
Kaj Haulrich.   

I'm getting the same problem. I've tried several urpmi sources, and 
tried rpm --rebuilddb each time, and still get the same response.

On this occasion, I think it's *them* and not *us*. If we wait a couple 
of days, maybe they'll fix it.

Mandrakesoft have told me this is now fixed. I've just tried it, and 
everything seems OK.
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Re: [newbie] Broadband router

2004-11-16 Thread Margot
amalasingh wrote:
Hi,
Can anyone recommend a broadband router
compatible with UK BT based ISPs. 
I have supanet broadband. I have trouble
with connecting from Mandrake since
the ISP only supports Windows.

Cheers
Amala Singh
Netgear DG834 working well here with Force9 Broadband, and it was 
easy to set up in Mandrake 10.1 - haven't tried it in any earlier 
versions of Mandrake.

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Re: [newbie] urpmi - file not found

2004-11-11 Thread Margot
Margot wrote:
Kaj Haulrich wrote:
On Wednesday 10 November 2004 17:39, Fajar Priyanto wrote:
Hi folks,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] monmon]# urpmi --auto-select
To satisfy dependencies, the following package is going to be
installed (3 MB):
urpmi-4.6-1mdk.noarch
Is this OK? (Y/n) y
  ftp://mdk.linux.org.tw/pub/mandrakelinux/devel/10.1/i586/media/ma
in/urpmi-4.6-1mdk.noarch.rpm ...retrieving failed: curl failed:
exited with 19 or signal 0
Installation failed, some files are missing:
  ftp://mdk.linux.org.tw/pub/mandrakelinux/devel/10.1/i586/media/ma
in/urpmi-4.6-1mdk.noarch.rpm You may want to update your urpmi
database
...retrieving failed: curl: (19) Given file does not exist
Is it normal? I mean temporary failure only? I have changed the
source to several servers, but same result.
Thanks.

Just like it says : update your urpmi database and try again.
This usually works for me  (as root) : rpm --rebuilddb.
HTH
Kaj Haulrich.   

I'm getting the same problem. I've tried several urpmi sources, and 
tried rpm --rebuilddb each time, and still get the same response.

On this occasion, I think it's *them* and not *us*. If we wait a couple 
of days, maybe they'll fix it.

I've done a little further investigating on this. Using the 
--auto-select option, urpmi proposes to install the following:

perl-URPM-1.04-1mdk.i586
urpmi-4.6-1mdk.noarch
On the mirror 
ftp://ftp.proxad.net/pub/Distributions_Linux/Mandrakelinux/devel/community/i586/media/main/
the following versions are found:
perl-URPM-1.03-2mdk.i586.rpm
urpmi-4.5-28mdk.noarch.rpm

Could someone *either* amend the hdlist files to show the actual 
versions of the packages present on the mirrors, *or* upload the 
newer versions of the packages? Warly?
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Re: [newbie] urpmi - file not found

2004-11-10 Thread Margot
Kaj Haulrich wrote:
On Wednesday 10 November 2004 17:39, Fajar Priyanto wrote:
Hi folks,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] monmon]# urpmi --auto-select
To satisfy dependencies, the following package is going to be
installed (3 MB):
urpmi-4.6-1mdk.noarch
Is this OK? (Y/n) y
  
ftp://mdk.linux.org.tw/pub/mandrakelinux/devel/10.1/i586/media/ma
in/urpmi-4.6-1mdk.noarch.rpm ...retrieving failed: curl failed:
exited with 19 or signal 0

Installation failed, some files are missing:
  
ftp://mdk.linux.org.tw/pub/mandrakelinux/devel/10.1/i586/media/ma
in/urpmi-4.6-1mdk.noarch.rpm You may want to update your urpmi
database

...retrieving failed: curl: (19) Given file does not exist
Is it normal? I mean temporary failure only? I have changed the
source to several servers, but same result.
Thanks.

Just like it says : update your urpmi database and try again.
This usually works for me  (as root) : rpm --rebuilddb.
HTH
Kaj Haulrich.   
I'm getting the same problem. I've tried several urpmi sources, and 
tried rpm --rebuilddb each time, and still get the same response.

On this occasion, I think it's *them* and not *us*. If we wait a 
couple of days, maybe they'll fix it.

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Re: [newbie] first email from new laptop w/Mdk!!!

2004-11-05 Thread Margot
Angus Auld wrote:
Greetings all.:-) 
This is my first email message sent from my new 
laptoppowered by Mdk Linux, and Mdk Linux ONLY! 
MS FREE NOTEBOOK HERE! 
 
I had a real marathon getting things setup. 			
Does anyone have any idea why Mdk installer would not show 
me options to choose from various filesystems during my 
SEVERAL installations??? I tried expert mode as well as 
default. 
Is there any way to change from the ext3 that I have now 
to reiserfs? 
Also, how can I get my laptop (Dell Inspiron 1150) to 
power down automatically on shutdown. I now have to 
manually do it with my start button. :-( 
Besides that though, it looks good. 
 
TIA for any help. 
Best regards. 
 
--Angus 
Congratulations on getting the new machine up and running! Now that 
you've had a few hours to leap around the room celebrating, perhaps 
you could calm down and tell us which version of Mandrake you're 
using, and which kernel? Then maybe somebody will be able to help 
you ;-)

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Re: [newbie] first email from new laptop w/Mdk!!!

2004-11-05 Thread Margot
Angus Auld wrote:
Thanks a bunch for the helpful replies!
Right now, I am using the standard kernel version that installs with Mdk10.0, which is 
what system I'm using.
I am going to update to the latest kernel version this evening.
I will implement the changes suggested, and report back on my progress. :-)
You gotta love this list.
Best regards.
-- Angus
PS (Margot). Do I have to stop *jumping for joy* about this installation already? ;-))
Angus,
I don't wish to curb your enthusiasm, but I just think it would be 
easier to *fix* things if you calmed down a little first ;-)

Good luck!
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Re: [newbie] HELP - Absolutely cannot update

2004-10-26 Thread Margot
Jack wrote:
On Mon, 2004-10-25 at 21:47 +0100, Margot wrote:
Community versions of Mandrake do not have updates or update 
source media - the updates are contained in the media which you 
have already added as sources.

To obtain the updates, instead of using the GUI you must use urpmi.
Open a root terminal,  give the following command:
urpmi.update -a --no-md5sum  urpmi --auto-select
This will update all your media, and show you a list of updated 
versions of any packages you have installed.

Thanks Margot... this seems to have done it.  So this means that I can't
use the drakes to update, right?
- Jack
Once the Official version of 10.1 is released, you can delete your 
Community sources, go back yo easyurpmi, install Official 
sources, and you will be able to use the drakes from then on...if 
you really want to.

Of course, by then you will be so accustomed to using urpmi that you 
probably won't need to use the drakes ever again! To become an 
expert urpmi user, look here:

http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/UsingUrpmi
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Re: [newbie] HELP - Absolutely cannot update

2004-10-25 Thread Margot
Jack wrote:
This Linux newbie needs help!!!
No matter how many times I've tried over the last few weeks, I have not
been able to update with Mandrake 10.1.  I always get the message:
It is impossible to retreive the list of new packages from the media
'update source.'  Either the update media is misconfigured, and in this
case you shouldd use the software media manager to remove it and re-add
it in order to reconfigure it, either it is currently unreachable and
you should retry later.
It also reports trying to download '...  which doesn't seem like a
viable name to me.
Thing is, I think I'm missing something.  In my media manager, I don't
HAVE an update source.  I have the 3 installation cd's listed and
main, contrib, and plf.  That's all.  No media called updates.
I have done the urpmi 3 steps thing and have searched far and wide over
the internet, but I cannot find a solution to this problem.
Can someone help?
- Jack
Community versions of Mandrake do not have updates or update 
source media - the updates are contained in the media which you 
have already added as sources.

To obtain the updates, instead of using the GUI you must use urpmi.
Open a root terminal,  give the following command:
urpmi.update -a --no-md5sum  urpmi --auto-select
This will update all your media, and show you a list of updated 
versions of any packages you have installed.
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Re: [newbie] Where have all the kernel source gone ?

2004-10-22 Thread Margot
Anne Wilson wrote:
On Thursday 21 Oct 2004 23:32, Margot wrote:
Dan Gordon wrote:
On October 21, 2004 05:19 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
Yes, Dan.  Go to easyurpmi.zarb.org and get some cooker sources.
There you will find 2.6.8.1-12mdk and its source rpm.  This will be
in 10.1 Official, I believe.
Anne
Ahh ok I never thought to look on cooker,  silly me ;-)
But wont that put 10.1 into a cooked sorta state,  I dont wana wreck
things too quick.
Thanks Anne
Regards,
Dan Gordon
Dan  Anne,
Up until yesterday, cooker was the correct place to find 10.1
updates, but (as per Warly's message about 12 hours ago) the 10.1
Community mirrors now carry the updates for 10.1 Community.
Don't use the cooker sources any more unless you want to end up
running cooker!

It was recommended that I do use cooker, just at this moment.  It is in a 
'frozen' state, meaning that 10.1 Official is being prepared for roll-out.  
Once that roll-out happens, I agree that cooker should not be used again 
unless it is to deliberately use the unstable bleeding-edge.  At that point, 
I presume, we should remove the cooker sources and apply the 10.1 Official 
sources.

Anne
Anne,
I know Tom told you to use cooker sources, but that was because no 
updates were available on the Community mirrors. The updates *are* 
now available on the Community mirrors - safer to switch now, rather 
than forgetting to switch later and ending up inadvertently running 
cooker!

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Re: [newbie] Where have all the kernel source gone ?

2004-10-21 Thread Margot
Dan Gordon wrote:
On October 21, 2004 05:19 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
Yes, Dan.  Go to easyurpmi.zarb.org and get some cooker sources. 
There you will find 2.6.8.1-12mdk and its source rpm.  This will be
in 10.1 Official, I believe.

Anne

Ahh ok I never thought to look on cooker,  silly me ;-)
But wont that put 10.1 into a cooked sorta state,  I dont wana wreck 
things too quick.
Thanks Anne

Regards,
Dan Gordon
Dan  Anne,
Up until yesterday, cooker was the correct place to find 10.1 
updates, but (as per Warly's message about 12 hours ago) the 10.1 
Community mirrors now carry the updates for 10.1 Community.

Don't use the cooker sources any more unless you want to end up 
running cooker!

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Re: [newbie] Where have all the kernel source gone ?

2004-10-21 Thread Margot
Dan Gordon wrote:
On October 21, 2004 06:32 pm, Margot wrote:
Dan  Anne,
Up until yesterday, cooker was the correct place to find 10.1
updates, but (as per Warly's message about 12 hours ago) the 10.1
Community mirrors now carry the updates for 10.1 Community.
Don't use the cooker sources any more unless you want to end up
running cooker!

So easy urpmi just has not caught up yet then ?
Regards,
Dan Gordon
I'm using the proxad 10.1 Community sources - about 300 updates 
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Re: [newbie] GTK2 PDF reader

2004-10-12 Thread Margot
JoeHill wrote:
On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 19:47:38 +1000
John Layt disseminated the following:

P.S. Oh, all right Gnome has something called gpdf which is also based on 
xpdf, but I can't speak for it as I won't have that the G stuff on my 
drive...

LOL! Exactly the opposite here...no 'K' for me!
gpdf does the trick for me, now that I know all I have to do is 'lpr
/path/to/file', I don't need gpdf to print for me.
Are you saying that gpdf doesn't print for you? Works fine for me - 
just click on Print, click on Job tab to select which pages I want, 
then away it goes! This is gpdf-0.132-3 on xfce4 on 10.1CE - maybe 
you have an older version and need to upgrade?

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Re: [newbie] Security Updates

2004-10-08 Thread Margot
Matt Harrison wrote:
Hi all,
   I am sure this has already been answered, but I
didn't have much luck with the archives.  I am using
10.1 community currently and when I try to add a
security update source, it pops up telling me it is
impossible to add the source and that it is most
likely misconfigured.  Is there a problem with curl or
are the sites just down currently?
Thanks in advance,
-Matt
For 10.1 Community, same as for 10.0 Community, there are *no* 
'update' sources. Updates for Community are found in 'main', not in 
a separate source.

Go to easyurpmi, select 10.1 Community sources for 'main', 
'contrib', 'jpackage' and 'plf'.

Every day, open a root terminal and do this:
urpmi.update -a --no-md5sum  urpmi --auto-select
This will get you a list of updates for all packages that you have 
installed.

Curl usually fails - you should be using wget instead. As root, open 
your /etc/urpmi/urpmi.cfg file, and add this at the top:

{
  verify-rpm: 0
  downloader: wget
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Re: [newbie] Security Updates

2004-10-08 Thread Margot
Stew Benedict wrote:
On Fri, 8 Oct 2004, Margot wrote:

For 10.1 Community, same as for 10.0 Community, there are *no* 
'update' sources. Updates for Community are found in 'main', not in 
a separate source.

Go to easyurpmi, select 10.1 Community sources for 'main', 
'contrib', 'jpackage' and 'plf'.

Every day, open a root terminal and do this:
urpmi.update -a --no-md5sum  urpmi --auto-select

You currently see updates hitting community main?  I was under the 
impression that that is static atm.  Went through this last night with a 
support person and it looked like the hdlist on proxad was dated Sept15.

Thanks,
No, none at the moment, but that's where they would be once they 
start coming through, isn't it? I check every day because I'm on 
dialup - I don't want to leave it a couple of weeks and then find 
that I've got loads of updates to catch up on - better to do them as 
 when they appear, in easily-digestible chunks.

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Re: [newbie] pre upgrade questions [9.0 to 10.0]

2004-10-01 Thread Margot
Merlin Zener wrote:
On Fri, 2004-10-01 at 05:41, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
On Friday 01 October 2004 00:19, Merlin Zener wrote:
On Fri, 2004-10-01 at 00:21, Stephen Kühn wrote:
Two words:
CLEAN INSTALL
so that would involve reformatting both drives?
No, just the existing / and maybe /usr partitions. Leave all the others as 
they are!

If so, then I guess I'm in for a long backup session first... How should
I go about it? Could someone address these concerns for me?:
What kind of backup should I do first, just in case anything goes
wrong? I'm guessing, simply copy anything that's in /home/merlin, but
where else are things kept that I need to back up? What about Mozilla,
Pan and Evolution - where do they keep their files? Is there a Linux
equivalent of the registry that I should back up? [and would it work
with 10.0 anyway?]
They're all in your home directory i.e. /home partition.
and something I just thought of:
How do I get my mail back into Evolution after the
backup/reformat/reinstall process?
They'll still be there if you haven't formatted your /home partition

Oh, and I just thought of another thing:
If I have to reformat my Windows drives, should I reinstall windows
first before installing Mandrake 10.0? And, I seem to recall there's
something about NTFS that makes it so Linux and Windows can't access the
same files - so should I take the opportunity and redo Windows in FAT32
or something?
Whatever you want, but I'd leave everything as is and use the FAT32 a a sort 
of transit-space from ext3 to ntfs and back.


thanks for your thoughts.
How, exactly, do I only format certain partitions? Does the installer on
the 10.0 CD give me this option? Or do I have to use some other
software?
The CD will give you the option to either upgrade or install. 
Choose install - works better than upgrade - that's what Stephen meant!

The CD will also give you the choice of which partitions to reformat 
- leave /home alone, plus any windows partitions, and reformat the 
rest. Make sure you back up /home before you start, just in case 
there's a power cut or some other disaster that interrupts the 
process - but there's 99.99% chance you will still have your /home 
intact after the install is finished.

When the installation reaches the part about going on to the 
internet and installing updates, say no! It's much better to do this 
with urpmi once you've rebooted - gives you more control.

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Re: [newbie] Re: data cd's

2004-10-01 Thread Margot
Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
On Fri, 2004-10-01 at 11:11, Paul Smith wrote:
On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 14:59:02 +0100, Paul Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have just installed udftools and checked its project site, but I did
not find any documentation. So, does somebody here know how to use
udftools for writing on cd-rw disks?
Since, nobody has answered this post, is it correct, according to
netiquette principles, to ask the same question in a different list?
Paul
Absolutely.  Post this to the expert list and see what you get
BTW you have a Reply To set.  This is a no no.  Check Eric Huff's
netiquette rules that are posted periodically to this list.
The Reply To should not be set to anything at all.  This causes a
respondent to send to you rather than the list by default.

LX
Before we go over this argument *again*, Paul's using gmail which 
apparently has problems with reply-to settings - can't be left 
blank, and can't be set to the list address - so the rest of us will 
just have to remember to look out for it when we reply to messages 
from gmail users.

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Re: [newbie] Where are the archives?

2004-10-01 Thread Margot
Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
On Fri, 2004-10-01 at 13:27, Todd Slater wrote:
On Fri, Oct 01, 2004 at 07:31:20AM -0400, Lanman wrote:
LX,
whack
Lyvim is one of the few who maintains a relatively even composure 
compared to some of us and constantly offers help, suggestions and 
tactful nudges as to list etiquette instead of attacking newbies or 
welcoming them with criticism.

I'd like to think that guys like LX will make this list a favourite spot 
for newbies for a long time to come and will ultimately lead to a better 
experience for most of us.
snip
Are you insane?

__
Are you another annoying Democrat?
LX
Can we move this to the OT list now please, before it goes any 
further? And Todd and Lanman would be more than welcome to join us 
there ;-)
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Re: [newbie] netpbm

2004-10-01 Thread Margot
David wrote:
Guys  Gals,
This question is asked by a newbie with enough knowledge to be dangerous. Not
enough to be really dangerous but heading that way.
When I download the security or other notified updates I check to see it
the particular app is loaded on my machine, before installing the update.
So it was with the netpbm files. However, I notice that the
'libnetpb9-static-devel' file  is not loaded. Before I do the update I would
like to know how relevant that file is and should it be loaded, or is it not an
issue.
If you don't mind sharing any knowledge you have on this I'm all ears.
If you are using urpmi for your updates, all you have to do to get 
the relevant updates is open a root terminal  do:
urpmi.update -a --no-md5sum  urpmi --auto-select

That will provide you with the list of available updates for 
packages you already have installed (plus their necessary 
dependencies). It will ignore updates for packages where you don't 
have older versions installed.

If you are not yet using urpmi, you *should* be! See here:
http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/UsingUrpmi
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Re: [newbie] Where are the archives?

2004-10-01 Thread Margot
Lanman wrote:

You mean there really IS an OT list? Hell, I thought that was just a 
term you folks used to get rid of pesky individuals - sort of a ruse to 
make them insane looking for the OT list. Humph. Silly me! Where do I 
subscribe?

Lanman
Registered Linux User #190712
It's not an official Mandrake list - Mark Weaver kindly runs it so 
we can keep off-topic discussions away from the newbie  expert 
lists. All are welcome to join - bring your own flame-proof suit!

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Re: [newbie] Where are the archives?

2004-10-01 Thread Margot
Lanman wrote:
Margot wrote:
It's not an official Mandrake list - Mark Weaver kindly runs it so 
we can keep off-topic discussions away from the newbie  expert lists. 
All are welcome to join - bring your own flame-proof suit!

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

What??? No subscribe page? Jeesh! Do I just send an email with a subject 
that says subscribe in it or what?

Lanman
Registered Linux User #190712
I'll ask Mark to get back to you on that - he changed the setup 
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Re: [newbie] 10.1CE

2004-10-01 Thread Margot
Paul Kaplan wrote:
My initial impression is that 10.1CE is faster than 10.0 Official.  Can anyone 
confirm or would people like a sample of what I've been smokin'?
Paul

I upgraded from 10.0CE to 10.1CE - can't say if it's any faster, but 
it certainly look prettier. If you want me to perform a truly 
*scientific* test, you'd better send that sample ;-)

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Re: [newbie] Mozilla crashing sometimes...

2004-09-26 Thread Margot
Merlin Zener wrote:
Well I'm going back over the answers here trying again; I too have
Mozilla but not Firefox atm just like the above poster. But it didn't
work for me...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] merlin]$ su
Password:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] merlin]# urpmi firefox
no package named firefox
[EMAIL PROTECTED] merlin]#
hm
The package is called mozilla-firefox, not just firefox, so try 
urpmi mozilla-firefox and you should get it!
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Re: [newbie] Conversion from text to a spreadsheet format

2004-09-18 Thread Margot
Paul Smith wrote:
On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 12:33:38 -0400, Carroll Grigsby
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Paul:
Oh, well, you tried. BTW, this time it came out as [EMAIL PROTECTED]

If someone on the list has figured out a way of loosing the reply-to
address with GMail, please let me know it.
Paul
No idea how to permanently fix your problem, but, for the time 
being, why don't you put the *list* address in the reply-to field?

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Re: [newbie] Good, Intuitive developement platform?

2004-09-17 Thread Margot
Eric Scott wrote:
	Yo;
Though I'm not a proficient or experience developer, I like to tinker
with code every now and then and learn what I can.  What are some of the
best development environments can I run on my Mandrake 9.1 box that have
something like the intuitiveness of KDevelop and something in the
neighborhood, or at least the same state, as Visual Studio .net?  
 Thanx,
   ES
Eric,
For your own good, and for the benefit of others, please don't 
hijack threads on the mailing list. See here:

http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MandrakeMailingListEtiquette
If you want to start a new topic, start with a new message - don't 
just reply to an existing message and change the subject line.

Why? Well, if you just change the subject line, your new messages 
will show up as part of an existing thread in most mail clients. 
Anybody who is not reading that thread will miss your message - you 
want to reach the widest audience possible, don't you? So far you 
have hijacked the tinfoil hats thread 3 times - that thread had 
drifted into a discussion of Canadian politics, so a lot of people 
will be deleting it without reading it - and the people who aren't 
reading it might be the very people who could help you...if they saw 
your messages.

Also, many people use the mailing list archives to see if their 
question has already been asked and answered - they aren't likely to 
realise that the tinfoil hats thread contains information about 
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Re: [newbie] Occasional email signature

2004-09-11 Thread Margot
JoeHill wrote:
On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 20:03:32 -0500
Chris disseminated the following:

Ah, go for the gusto! It's really easy to create your own file of quotes
to randomly choose from, I got the howto from Todd Slater's site, but his
site has gone all *political*, all kinds of *commie stuff* (love it
Todd!), can't find the howto's anymore. If you want, I'll post how to go
about that, or if Todd's 'listening' mayhap he'll post a link.
Actually if she's using the script I sent her its already setup to call a 
random 'fortune' each time its ran.

Ya, but it's nice to have your *own* database of quotes...well, at least if
you're an unrepentant sh1t disturber like moi. Oh, and just looked what popped
up at random... ;-)
...and of course 'twould be simple to modify that script as I did:
echo `fortune /home/joehill/sigs/quotes`
I left the fortune bit in Chris's script, but commented out - 
haven't had time to look at the fortunes database yet, wouldn't want 
to send something inappropriate to the nice distant cousin 
@microsoft.com (!) and I might eventually create my own database, 
but that's something I can play with later!


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Re: [newbie] Occasional email signature

2004-09-11 Thread Margot
JoeHill wrote:
On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 00:53:14 +0100
Margot disseminated the following:

crontab -e
which gets you into your user's cron config, hit 'i' to insert text, then:
0 * * * * /path/to/script  /path/to/outputfile
I got this far...but couldn't work out how to save what I'd 
inserted! Checked man crontab, looked for the file in the location 
that man said it should be in - I don't appear to have a crontab 
file at all! Eek!

Dang, sorry, forgot that part. Gotta stop...doing that...thing...that I
do...
It's Vi you are using to edit the crontab, so once you (i)nsert the text,
hit Esc to exit insert mode, then':wq' and Enter (the ':' is to tell Vi you are
giving a command, the 'wq' means'write, then quit'). You should then get a
message something like 'new crontab installed'. Vi is bloody intimidating at
first, but from what I've heard, once you get used to it...well, like anything
else.
Anyhow, it's better than Emacs.
/joehill ducks to avoid barrage of arrows tipped with C4
Thanks for the 'lesson', Joe - I'll save it for future reference - 
and I hope you haven't started the Vi vs Emacs flamewar again!

Meanwhile, Warren from NZ has found a much easier solution (for me, 
at least) - Kalarm. Kalarm is a nice easy GUI that can be set to run 
the script at any interval I want - say, every 10 minutes - might 
even be useful for other people who want to run things more often 
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Re: [newbie] S/MIME and webmail

2004-09-11 Thread Margot
Paul Smith wrote:
Dear All
I am trying to use S/MIME, which works just fine with Thunderbird. 
However, it does not work with webmail, I mean, when I use the browser 
Mozilla to connect to the e-mail server at my work, through webmail. Is 
it really impossible to read encrypted e-mails with webmail?

Thanks in advance,
Paul
I occasionally use my ISP's webmail service for reading my mail if 
I'm away from my own computer - I haven't had any trouble reading 
encrypted messages sent to the Mandrake lists, but I don't know 
anybody who sends me encrypted personal mail, so I don't know if it 
is some processing by sympa before the list mail reaches me that 
makes it readable in webmail...

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Re: [newbie] Occasional email signature

2004-09-10 Thread Margot
M.Schild wrote:
I'd like to set up a signature that I can use occasionally - not on
every email, just a selected few.
I'd like it to include my name (pure laziness - saves typing it!),
the Mandrake version and maybe a short message about why Mandrake is
better than M$!
Can someone point me to some clear step-by-step instructions for
doing this? I'm using Mozilla 1.6 on Mandrake 10CE.

and if someone could include the step by step for Kmail.
thanks
Maryse
Someone kindly contacted me off-list (thanks, Chris!) and sent me a 
sig file I can adapt for my own use. He also gave me instructions 
for using it in Kmail:

To use is, under Kmail settings, Identity, enable signature, obtain 
signature from (select output of command) Specify command, mine is 
/home/chris/sig

Hope this helps you, Maryse - now, can anyone help me use the file 
in Mozilla 1.6 as I don't use Kmail?

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Re: [newbie] Occasional email signature

2004-09-10 Thread Margot
SnapafunFrank wrote:
M.Schild wrote:
Someone kindly contacted me off-list (thanks, Chris!) and sent me a
sig file I can adapt for my own use. He also gave me instructions
for using it in Kmail:
To use is, under Kmail settings, Identity, enable signature, obtain
signature from (select output of command) Specify command, mine is
/home/chris/sig
Hope this helps you, Maryse - now, can anyone help me use the file
in Mozilla 1.6 as I don't use Kmail?
  

thank you. I shall try
Maryse
 

OK. I'm using Mozilla-1.7.2 but I think the same applies for you.
Go to :
Edit Mail  Newsgroup Account Settings and make sure your Account 
Name is highlighted.
 From there you can organize your signature and be pointed to it. My 
signature below is a text file buried in my 
/home/frank/Documents/Signature directory eg.

Each time I do not want the signature attached I simply highlight it and 
hit the delete key.

Hope this helps.
Well, that got me closer, but not quite there yet...
The file that Chris sent me is a script. So far, using your 
instructions, I have managed to get Mozilla to use the file - but it 
is using the *contents* of the file (showing the commands that 
produce the Mandrake version, kernel version etc.), and I actually 
need it to use the *output*.

There must be a step in the middle that I'm missing.
Do I need to create a 2nd file to contain the output of the script, 
somehow give a command to run the script and send the output to the 
2nd file, then use the content of the 2nd file as the sig text?

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Re: [newbie] Adding New Stuff

2004-09-10 Thread Margot
BJ Tracy wrote:
Hello All,
If a newbie to Mandrake Linux wants to look for software for linux, what is 
the best way?  Google?

Thanks,
bj
Ryan has already mentioned *how* to install new stuff on Mandrake, 
so I won't bother to repeat it. If what you're looking for is 
suggestions on *what* software to install, I suggest you ask here - 
though if you ask something like which web browser should I try 
you must be prepared to receive many different and equally sensible 
recommendations ;-)

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Re: [newbie] Occasional email signature

2004-09-10 Thread Margot
Russ Kepler wrote:
On Friday 10 September 2004 04:14 pm, Margot wrote:

I haven't done much with scripts yet, so this is a whole new
learning experience - but it's for a worthy cause,  I'm sure it
will come in useful for other things too!

Try putting a |  in front of the scripts name, Mozilla might recognize it as 
a pipe and execute the command, reading the output.  

Path to script is currently /home/margot/sig - where does the pipe 
go? Does it need spaces before/after?

If that doesn't work you could put the command at the end of a named pipe.  
The link below shows an outline of how to go about doing that.

http://jez.hancock-family.com/archives/27_Email_signatures_using_FIFO.html
Had a look at the page - couldn't make head or tail of it I'm 
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Re: [newbie] Occasional email signature

2004-09-10 Thread Margot
JoeHill wrote:
On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 23:14:54 +0100
Margot disseminated the following:

Then Moz is not seeing the file as a script, but just a file to be read. I'm
not
sure about Moz, but in Sylpheed you can choose between a static file (to be
read), or a command to be run which generates the sig. Does Moz have a
similar
choice in the signature config dialogue?
No, unfortunately, or if there is I haven't found it yet! In Account 
Settings, there's a box to tick marked Attach this signature, and 
another box to give the path to the file.

Switch to Sylpheed ;-)
 

That's why I'm thinking I need to somehow run the script outside 
Mozilla, create a 2nd file for the output of the script, then use 
that output file as the sig file.

I know how to set up the 2nd file, but I can't work out to run the 
script or get it to put the output into the 2nd file!

Just run 'scriptname  /path/to/outputfile'.
 

I haven't done much with scripts yet, so this is a whole new 
learning experience - but it's for a worthy cause,  I'm sure it 
will come in useful for other things too!

Oh, you betcha.
You could set up a cron job to run every, say 15 minutes or so, to run the
script. Can't say as I've ever figured out how to schedule anything except
hourly, m'self. Hourly, it would go like this:
crontab -e
which gets you into your user's cron config, hit 'i' to insert text, then:
0 * * * * /path/to/script  /path/to/outputfile
I got this far...but couldn't work out how to save what I'd 
inserted! Checked man crontab, looked for the file in the location 
that man said it should be in - I don't appear to have a crontab 
file at all! Eek!

Then of course just point Moz at the /path/to/outputfile.
Managed to run it manually though, and use the output (see below!) - 
which is probably all I need for now as I don't need to use the sig 
on all mails, just the occasional one!

Thanks for your help :-)
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Re: [newbie] Nvu rpms

2004-09-09 Thread Margot
julie wrote:
Has anyone tried using the WYSIWYG html editor Nvu? There is now an rpm for 
Mandrake 10 available and, before installing the program I was wondering if 
anyone had experienced any glitches.

Julie
I haven't tried it, but I've read about it and I'd be interested in 
looking at it - can you give me the URL where you found the rpm?

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[newbie] Occasional email signature

2004-09-09 Thread Margot
I'd like to set up a signature that I can use occasionally - not on 
every email, just a selected few.

I'd like it to include my name (pure laziness - saves typing it!), 
the Mandrake version and maybe a short message about why Mandrake is 
better than M$!

Can someone point me to some clear step-by-step instructions for 
doing this? I'm using Mozilla 1.6 on Mandrake 10CE.

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Re: [newbie] Nvu rpms

2004-09-09 Thread Margot
Paul Smith wrote:
Margot wrote:
I haven't tried it, but I've read about it and I'd be interested in 
looking at it - can you give me the URL where you found the rpm?

Margot,
You can find a Mandrake 10 rpm at:
http://www.nvu.com/download.html
Regards,
Paul
That was quick! Thanks - I'll give it a try.
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Re: [newbie] Re: Modem needed for UK Broadband

2004-09-06 Thread Margot
Russell Butler wrote:
Margot wrote:
Tony.
Sweet of you to offer, Tony - unfortunately, I'm in Kent!
I'm going to try the Adult Education centre courses - with any luck, 
I'll be able to learn how to install the ethernet card myself, perhaps 
with a little help by remote control from the kind people on this 
list ;-)

Margot
Hi folk
Can I toss in another option from the antipodes, may cost a few pounds
more, but may end up quicker and less worrying to Margot. That is to use
a USB to Ethernet LAN adaptor.
I had the problem of a 5-year old laptop running MK 10, which would not
cope with a cardbus(32-bit) PMCIA Ethernet card after my old 16-bit card
failed. It has one USB port which now carries the USB to Ethernet LAN
adaptor. This picked up the settings I had tried for the Cardbus card,
and is talking happily to my ADSL router/modem and my desktop machine.
In OZ, the USB card is  about twice the price of a PCI Ethernet card,
but will of course just plug into a USB port.
Just another possibility which has certainly worked very simply for me
in a somewhat similar situation.
Russell
That's an interesting suggestion. I've never heard of these adaptors 
before - can you tell me the make/model of the one you're using? Of 
course there's no guarantee that the same one would be available in 
the UK, but at least I could go to a shop and say I want one...like 
this!

And you had no trouble with the USB side of it? I had to abandon a 
USB printer that insisted on being reinstalled  reconfigured every 
time I switched it on...but my USB scanner works fine!


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Re: [newbie] update installation

2004-09-04 Thread Margot
Martin Foster wrote:
On Saturday 04 Sep 2004 12:25, john wrote:
Hello
I am updating md10 and keep getting a conflict message for the cups
printer file and the printer utilites file. When trying to install
together or indivually, the message says that installation failed due to
one conflicting with the other. Since neither has installed, I don't see
how they could conflict. It doesn't say which file so I am not sure
which way to go from here.  Would appreciate any help on this.

Exactly the same happens when I try to install either of these packages too. 
The offending file is reported in the output from urpmi:

-- 8 --
installing /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/cups-drivers-1.1-138.1.100mdk.i586.rpm
Preparing...##
Installation failed:
	file /usr/lib/cups/backend/mtink from install of 
cups-drivers-1.1-138.1.100mdk conflicts with file from package 
printer-utils-1.0-133mdk
-- 8 --

Sorry I can't offer a solution.
Solution:
urpme cups-drivers printer-utils
(to remove the old versions of both packages), then
urpmi cups-drivers printer-utils
(to install the new versions of both packages)

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Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband

2004-09-03 Thread Margot
Margot wrote:
I've managed to track down what looks to be an ethical and 
reasonably-priced Broadband provider - www.thephone.coop - they assure 
me that their service will work with Linux (and their tech support 
didn't scream in horror when I asked!).

They don't supply a modem. Can anyone recommend one which will 
definitely work with Mandrake 10 (and with Win 98SE, as I'm now dual 
booting)? Preferably an external one, as I'm not confident with 
screwdrivers! Or, are there any I should definitely avoid?

Margot
Replying to my own post to save energy! I've had many useful 
suggestions, both on- and off-list, too many to continue replying 
individually, so this is what I'm going to do:

I need to develop some hardware expertise. I've signed up with the 
local Adult Education Centre for 2 short courses designed for 
hardware 'newbies' - one on PC Upgrade and one on Home Networking.

By December, I should at least be 'mentally' competent with a 
screwdriver, and if I can't manage the physical side, at least I'll 
have met some local people who may be able to help!

My birthday is 2 weeks before Christmas, so by the end of the year I 
should be able to afford the ethernet card and router - and maybe 
even a new screwdriver ;-)

Can anyone recommend any books or online resources on hardware? VERY 
basic level please - along the lines of 'how not to ruin a perfectly 
good computer by sticking a screwdriver in the wrong place'!

Many thanks to all who have helped steer me in the right direction - 
I don't know what I'd do without this list !

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Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband

2004-09-03 Thread Margot
Tony S. Sykes wrote:
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Brinkman
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 9:33 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband
On Thursday 02 September 2004 02:31 pm, Margot wrote:
Bryan Phinney wrote:
On Thursday 02 September 2004 09:27 am, John Richard Smith 
wrote:
OK then I bow to experience.
Only I found in the device easy enough, but the with the
network MCC still asks a lot of questions you don't know the
answers to, and without those answers it don't work. Of
course that is trying to set up a network.
I just don't find it clear whether setting up a router/modem
plus ethernet can be done with nothing more than getting the
devices recognised by the system, or that you also have to
have the beginning of a network as well.
Most router/modems work based upon dhcp, which means that
they automatically assign an IP address, netmask, broadcast,
gateway, (some even do the domain name) to the cards that are
plugged into their systems.  So, simply letting the MCC
wizard detect the card and then using the default selections
(they default to DHCP IIRC) should result in a working
network configuration.  That is pretty much why I suggested
the router/modem route.  Otherwise, you have to configure the
USB device, but then you are also going to have to configure
the Network connection with ID/password, etc to get the DSL
connection running.  And I don't know of any standalone
router device so, if you want to share the network
connection, you have to set that up on the machine too.
Again, to each his own, but I can't imagine any situation
where the USB one would be easier than ethernet.
We seem to be drifting a bit here...
As I said in my original message, I need a solution that
doesn't involve screwdrivers - not just because I'm a girl (!)
but I have ME - the combination of brainfog plus physical
limitations means that installing anything that involves taking
the case off the box is beyond my capabilities.
As I understand it, an ethernet card would be installed inside
the box - which means that I'd have to pay not only for the
card but for the installation of it, and of course there's the
inconvenience of having to take the box to the shop etc...plus
the cost of the router which appears to be considerably more
expensive than the USB modem.
Right now, I can afford the broadband service plus the USB
modem. I'd have to save up for another 2-3 months to go for the
other option. I'd appreciate your opinion on this - will the
ease of use of the ethernet option be worth the wait and the
extra expense?
Thanks
Margot
Margot, I think you need to be listening to Paul and Bryan, 
et all, who suggest you go the hardware route and avoid USB/ 
Speedtouch (akin to the aDSL version of a 'winmodem').  There is 
absolutely no problem associated with removing your case cover 
and installing a cheap D-link NIC in a pci slot. Takes less than 
a few minutes, harddrake will find it on the next boot. I can't 
believe that if you don't wanna do it, you can't find somebody to 
do it for you.

   I believe you read the cooker list, an you should also be 
seein the buggzilla's.  If not, then just search them for 
'speedtouch' and 'usb'.  I think that should be argument enough 
that Paul and Bryan are givin you the best advice. Which is why 
I've stayed out of this till now.  https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/

   The only thing I'd add is, (as root) 'urpmi rp-pppoe' and run 
'tkpppoe' to answer about a half dozen questions. Provider, 
userID, password, DNS from server?, stuff like that.  Your adsl 
connection can then be started with 'adsl-start', and terminated 
with 'adsl-stop'.  It's easier to enable aDSL service this way, 
than under Windoze.
--
 Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas
  Proud to be an American


Margot,
If your close to Manchester I can drive over and install it for you.
Tony.
Sweet of you to offer, Tony - unfortunately, I'm in Kent!
I'm going to try the Adult Education centre courses - with any luck, 
I'll be able to learn how to install the ethernet card myself, 
perhaps with a little help by remote control from the kind people 
on this list ;-)

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Re: [newbie] Specific software to write FAQs

2004-09-03 Thread Margot
Paul Smith wrote:
Dear All
Is there some specific software to write FAQs?
Thanks in advance,
Paul

Where do you want to publish them? If you want them on a website, 
you could try Mozilla Composer (part of the standard Mozilla 
package) - you can write your own HTML in it, or use the WYSIWYG, so 
it's good for HTML newbies. If you want to produce your FAQs on 
paper, try scribus - a DTP program, fairly easy to use.

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[newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband

2004-09-01 Thread Margot
I've managed to track down what looks to be an ethical and 
reasonably-priced Broadband provider - www.thephone.coop - they 
assure me that their service will work with Linux (and their tech 
support didn't scream in horror when I asked!).

They don't supply a modem. Can anyone recommend one which will 
definitely work with Mandrake 10 (and with Win 98SE, as I'm now dual 
booting)? Preferably an external one, as I'm not confident with 
screwdrivers! Or, are there any I should definitely avoid?

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Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband

2004-09-01 Thread Margot
Richard Urwin wrote:
On Wednesday 01 Sep 2004 11:55 pm, flesh.99 wrote:
On Wed, 1 Sep 2004 18:40:17 -0400, Bryan Phinney
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wednesday 01 September 2004 06:02 pm, Margot wrote:
They don't supply a modem. Can anyone recommend one which will
definitely work with Mandrake 10 (and with Win 98SE, as I'm now
dual booting)? Preferably an external one, as I'm not confident
with screwdrivers! Or, are there any I should definitely avoid?
Margot, you really should be asking them for a list of
recommendations.  ADSL is not totally universal as far as equipment
goes, so the kind of modem that you need is going to be determined
by the hardware at the DSLAM and phone company, not based on the
operating system you run.  According to their web page, they
support the Speedtouch 330 USB DSL modem as well as the Netgear
DM602 router/modem.
Personally, I would go for the Netgear if I were you, it will hook
up to your ethernet card and should be as close to plug and play as
you get.  The USB option is more likely to result in possible
compatibility problems.
It appears that the USB is fine as well:
http://www.4p8.com/eric.brasseur/fc2_speedtouch_usb.html
http://www.linux-usb.org/SpeedTouch/
There are some issues, but the howto's should get them through it.
There is a lot of support for it out there. It won't be as easy as
the NetGear but it's all about choice.

The other nice thing about ethernet routers is that you can have a 
firewall up that allows no evil traffic to even get as far as your 
machine.

Try the reviews on http://www.adslguide.org.uk/
 http://www.adslguide.org.uk/reviews/

Thanks, all - I think I'm going to have to go with the USB option 
for now - I don't have an ethernet card! And the Speedtouch 330 
seems to be fairly cheap and widely available...

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Re: [newbie] Problem with /dev/tty

2004-08-29 Thread Margot
Paul Smith wrote:
Greg Meyer wrote:
I have done some updates on my computer and now, at start-up, the script
rc.sysinit tries to access to several tty, but the permission is denied.
Afterwards, still during booting, IPMI fails. Any ideas?

That error was coming up on boxes running cooker when Mandrake 
switched the default de vice manager from devfs to udev.  You are a 
bad boy running cooker stuff and posting to the newbie list.  
Seriously though, are you running cooker or a 10.1 beta.  if yes, you 
might want to check the cooker mailing list archives because I believe 
this was explained over there.

Greg,
I apologize if I should not post my question in this list. I am really a 
newbie, as I do not know even whether I am running a cooker version or 
not. I have indeed done some updates from cooker, likewise I download 
from there the latest version of the software I use. All updates that I 
have done were suggested by MandrakeUpdate. I will have a look at cooker 
mailing list.

Regards,
Paul
Paul,
It is really not a good idea to try to mix packages from cooker with 
 packages from official - cooker packages are by their very nature 
'unstable' and, although they may be the 'latest' version they are 
not necessarily compatible with 10 official - as you have found :-(

I suggest you go into Mandrake Control Centre - Software Management 
- Media Manager and delete all your sources except the CDs, then go 
here:

http://www.urpmi.org/easyurpmi
Select 10 official in Section 1
Select all possible sources in Section 2, and mark the box at the 
bottom to use the compressed index

Open a root terminal and use copy/paste to transfer the easyurpmi 
output to the terminal, one medium at a time

You will then have the correct sources set up for your system, and 
you can then use either urpmi (from a terminal) or Mandrake Control 
Centre - Software Management - Updates section to get the right updates.

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Re: [newbie] WAY OT - From the And you thought YOU were a newbie dept.

2004-08-11 Thread Margot
Charles A Edwards wrote:
On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 22:17:17 -0700 (PDT)
J Latham wrote:

2) Carefully pull the tray out and remove the CD

CD?
What the Hell has a bank note got to do with a cup holder?

Charles
I used to work in banking, handling safe custody of CDs and other 
securities - it worried me at first when people started talking 
about burning their CDs!

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Re: [newbie] tools for partitioning and formatting hard drive(diatribe alert)

2004-08-06 Thread Margot
Julie Sloan wrote:

snip
Julie
PS I am here because someone on the linuxchix mailing list said this is 
a good forum for newbies to learn - and I've already found lotsa nice 
links in the links section.  the top ten commands site has been 
especially helpful so far.


Glad you made it over here, Julie - welcome!
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Re: [newbie] modem problems - speak slowly please

2004-08-06 Thread Margot
Julie Sloan wrote:
Hi - my first post to this forum.  I've been trying to inhale all the 
information out there and so far have made it through just a few of the 
info   man pages.

I'm on mandrake 10.0 official, got both KDE and Gnome running (but 
trying to make this work from the KDE GUI) dual booting with WinXP

The modem's a conexant hsf and I've d/l'd the apropriate driver from the 
linuxant site into the window$ partition

in my /etc/fstab there's already this line:
/dev/hda1 /mnt/windows ntfs umask=0,nls=iso8859-1,ro 0 0 none /proc proc 
defaults 0 0

and I can peek into the windoze partition from KDE
in terminal I copied the driver into a disposable directory, cd'd into 
the directory with it and did:
rpm -iv hsfverylongfilename.rpm

now in GUI...
in MCC - hardware - hardware ...the modem is *still* listed as 
unknown device.

in MCC - network - make new connection ...I tell it modem, com3 (yes, 
3), automatic on the IP, DNS, etc

now get this:  I got a handshake, then an error message (The system 
doesn't seem to be connected to the internet.  Try to reconfigure your 
connection).  so I took the @mindspring.com off my login (what the 
hey, it's helped in netscape) and now I don't even get a handshake.  And 
the same error message.  Put the login back as it was and *still* get no 
handshake.  Fooled around with the authentication because I have no idea 
if I need PAP/CHAP (the default) or script based or what, and when I 
have it set to CHAP I once again get a handshake ...and the error message.

Can anyone see where I'm screwing up?
thanks
Julie
Julie
You have a winmodem. It is sometimes *possible* to get these working 
under Linux, but it takes a great deal of hard work (as you've 
already discovered)!

In the UK, high street electrical stores sell external modems for 
around £30 (probably even cheaper in the US - most things seem to 
be!) which will work fine under both Windows  Linux (the packaging 
might not even mention Linux, and the salespeople will probably 
never have heard of it!) - just take it out of the box, plug in both 
ends, reboot  both OSs should detect it automatically.

Or, you could spend many hours, possibly even days, trying to get a 
winmodem to work.

Time = money - but only you can work out whether it is worth 
spending several hours/days to save £30!

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Re: [newbie] Update to mdk 10 and problems with Mozilla 1.6

2004-07-28 Thread Margot
rosie wrote:
I tried renaming the .mozilla directory and still Mozilla will not 
load, I have installed Firefox and that will not load either!

Some new versions of Mozilla and Firefox need to be run as root 
first before they will run as user. Try calling them from a root 
terminal, then close, then try again as user, and let us know if it 
works or not.

Oh, and please refrain from top-posting - see here for netiquette:
http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MandrakeMailingListEtiquette
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Re: [newbie] Looking for the brother of FrontPage for Linux

2004-07-24 Thread Margot
Paul Smith wrote:
Dear All
I am looking for a program similar to FrontPage for Linux. Any ideas?
Thanks in advance,
Paul

There are plenty of HTML editors for Linux, but the one that looks 
closest to FrontPage is Mozilla Composer - it has the same sort of 
system as FrontPage, where you can switch from GUI to the actual 
HTML and back again, edit in either (or combination of both) and 
then switch to the preview screen to view your result in the Moz 
browser.

It is part of the standard Mozilla suite, so if you've got Mozilla 
installed, you've already got it, or it will be on your CDs.

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[newbie] XFCE4 looks like KDE...huh?

2004-07-21 Thread Margot
I've been using XFCE4 for a while now after switching from KDE - 
much quicker to load, simple layout, does what I want it to 
do...until now.

I set a nice simple desktop layout - panel at the bottom, icons 
growing up the right hand side, taskbar at the top, a plain purple 
background with a small picture of my cat in the middle so I have a 
friendly face to look at when all windows are closed - my one 
concession to eye candy!

Last night, while I was checking my emails, my desktop changed 
itself! I still have the same XFCE4 layout of panel, icons and 
taskbar, but my purple  cat background disappeared and was replaced 
with what looks like KDE! Blue background, stars  10 logo bottom 
right, and a sprinkling of icons - the very same icons that I 
created on my desktop when I used KDE!

Too tired to deal with it last night, so closed down  left it to 
the morning. Booted  logged in this morning, got a quick flash of 
my normal purple  cat background, then the KDE lookalike background 
appeared again!!!

Right-clicking on the desktop itself, and selecting the Change 
Desktop Background option, I get the standard Mandrake choices - 
what I'm seeing at the moment. And I tested the icons - they work 
(on a double-click).

Using the XFCE4 settings launcher from the panel and choosing 
Desktop:backdrop it shows that I have selected the purple 
background with the centred picture of my cat - but this is not 
being displayed!

What have I broken? How do I fix it?
Margot


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Re: [newbie] XFCE4 looks like KDE...huh?

2004-07-21 Thread Margot
Todd Slater wrote:
How are you starting XFce4? My initial thought is that you have some
program running in the background that is changing your background. 

Switch on computer, select user 'margot', xfce4 is selected by 
default, enter my password...I usually have kppp and konsole running 
at startup from a saved session the day before, but I close 
everything else - I've found that xfce4 seems unable to save 
sessions if I leave OpenOffice open.

Also, I'm not sure what you mean by icons growing up the right hand
side. Are you using some other app to get icons on your desktop? Or,
are you taking about the iconbox? Are you even using xfdesktop?
Yes, the iconbox - mine is set to start at bottom right and grow 
upwards, so it normally contains 2 icons at startup - kppp and 
konsole - and acquires more during the day.

Anyway, check your startup script and make sure you're not starting chbg
or some such.
Todd
Errr...I'm afraid I have no idea where to find the startup script! 
And what is chbg?

Thanks for your help so far.
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Re: [newbie] XFCE4 looks like KDE...huh?

2004-07-21 Thread Margot
Job Evers wrote:

I had a similar problem when I first started using pekwm.  Everytime I
fired up nautilus it also brought up the gnome background.  I discovered
that 'nautilus --no-desktop' fixes this problem.  I am not sure if
KDE/konquerer has a similar feature but it might be something to look
into.
Interesting...I looked into ksysguard, found that nautilus was 
running, killed it...and my normal desktop background is back!

What is doubly interesting is that nautilus was running at all - I 
have never used it, so it must have started itself! I wonder why...

Anyway, if it happens again, at least I know how to cure it - thanks!
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Re: [newbie] XFCE4 looks like KDE...huh?

2004-07-21 Thread Margot
Stephen Kuhn wrote:
On Thu, 2004-07-22 at 06:50, Margot wrote:

Errr...I'm afraid I have no idea where to find the startup script! 
And what is chbg?

Thanks for your help so far.
Margot

/etc/X11/xfce4/xinitrc

Thanks Stephen! Well, here's the file - does it look normal? No 
mention of chbg, or of nautilus...

xsetroot -solid black -cursor_name watch
# fix broken $UID on some system...
if test x$UID = x; then
UID=`id -u`
fi
# Those are my settings, change them as appropriate...
# Xft DPI: 96
# Xft.hintstyle: hintnone/hintslight/hintmedium/hintfull
# Xft hinting: 1/0
#xrdb -nocpp -merge -  EOF
#Xft.dpi: 96
#Xft.hinting: 1
#Xft.hintstyle: hintmedium
#EOF
test -f $HOME/.Xmodmap  xmodmap $HOME/.Xmodmap
# Uncomment this if you want to load Xresources and/or Xdefaults
# test -f $HOME/.Xresources  xrdb -merge $HOME/.Xresources
# test -f $HOME/.Xdefaults  xrdb -merge $HOME/.Xdefaults
# Launch xscreensaver (if available), but only as non-root user
test $UID -gt 0  test -z $VNCSESSION  xscreensaver -no-splash 
# Run xfce4-session if installed
xfcesm=`which xfce4-session`
case x$xfcesm in
x|xno*)
;;
*)
exec $xfcesm
# Shouldn't get there, but anyway...
exit
;;
esac
# or use old-fashioned startup script otherwise
xfce-mcs-manager
xfwm4 --daemon
# Start-up stuff from ~/Desktop/Autostart directory, if it exists
# (as it seems to be the new standard)
if test -d $HOME/Desktop/Autostart; then
  for i in `ls -1 -L ${HOME}/Desktop/Autostart/ 2/dev/null`; do
if test -x $HOME/Desktop/Autostart/$i; then
  $HOME/Desktop/Autostart/$i 
fi
  done
fi
xftaskbar4
xfdesktop
xfcalendar
panel=`which xfce4-panel`
case x$panel in
x|xno*)
;;
*)
$panel
ret=$?
while test $ret -ne 0; do
xmessage -center -file - -timeout 20 -title Error EOF
A crash occured in the panel
Please report this to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list
Meanwhile the panel will be restarted
EOF
cat 2 EOF
A crash occured in the panel
Please report this to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list
Meanwhile the panel will be restarted
EOF
$panel
ret=$?
done
;;
esac
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[newbie] Monitoring quantity of internet usage

2004-07-17 Thread Margot
I'm considering upgrading to a broadband service sometime later in 
the year.

Many of the packages available seem to be limited by *size* - eg 
Wanadoo has a package for £17.99 a month with a limit of 2GB per 
month and a package of 15GB per month for £27.99. Before deciding 
which package to go for, I need to know how much I'm using now - and 
then add a bit for safety! I don't really want to download or upload 
much more than I do already, but I just want to do it faster!

Presumably somewhere in Mandrake (10CE currently) there's some sort 
of log which will tell me how much I upload/download daily, so I can 
check it over the course of a couple of months.

What am I looking for, and where am I likely to find it?
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Re: [newbie] How to decypher dialupscript

2004-07-09 Thread Margot
John Richard Smith wrote:
Raffaele BELARDI wrote:
John Richard Smith wrote:
How to decypher dialupscript
Where can I get a list of explanation of the messages the dial up 
window gives you in kppp ?

John

Not sure of what kppp prints since I don't use it, but V90 and older 
modems use the Hayes command set (i.e. AT commands), you can find 
explanation for example here:

http://docs.kde.org/en/3.1/kdenetwork/kppp/appendix-hayes-commands.html
raffaele

Much obliged Raffaele,that was what I'm looking for, though I still have 
a few lines unexplained, this is what I'm getting after a particular 
recurrence like this, kppp logs on and emails download,
then halfway through the process my ISP seems to cut me off, this causes 
kppp to redial with this error message,

ATZ
OK
AT F1 V1
TERMINATION REASON.. NONE
LAST TX rate N/A
HIGHEST TX rate. 300 BPS
LAST RX rate N/A
HIGHEST RX rate. 300 BPS
PROTOCOL N/A
COMPRESSION. N/A
Line QUALITY 255
Rx LEVEL 214
Highest Rx State 00
Highest TX State 00
EQM Sum. 
RBS Pattern. FF
Rate Drop... FF
Digital Loss 
Local Rtrn Count 00
Remote Rtrn Count... 00
V90
OK
ATM1L1
OK
ATDT147008089916080
NO CARRIER
Question is why no carrier ?
Immediately I redial she logs on as usual.
This has now become a pattern.
I don't understand the scale of report in the F's and the numbers, 
like Line QUALITY.. 255, is that good bad or indifferent.

All my searches in google have come up with no detailed explanation, and 
although your suggestion is very helpful it isn't complete, as far as I 
can see.

The basic questions I need answering are,
Am I being cut off because my ISP is overloaded and needs to make room 
for others,

Am I being cut off because of line quality or modem config.
Am I being cut off because of software like guarddog(don't think so, but 
I'm not sure) etc.

Or what ?
John
John,
Judging by your email address, you're using Wanadoo - formerly known 
as Freeserve - as your ISP.

I've noticed a considerable deterioration in their service since the 
rebranding. Although I pay for the Anytime package (unlimited 
access, but limited to 2-hour sessions), the connection often drops 
before the 2-hour limit is up, and sometimes it takes several 
attempts to get reconnected. This makes downloading my Mdk updates a 
complete nightmare!

So, although it is worth checking that everything else is working 
OK, it's probably a Wanadoo problem.

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Re: [newbie] How to decypher dialupscript

2004-07-09 Thread Margot
Martin Foster wrote:
On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 11:46:18 +0100, John Richard Smith  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

OK
ATM1L1
OK
ATDT147008089916080

Why are you using 1470 in front of your ISP's phone number?
Judging by your email address, your ISP is FreeServe. When I had an  
account with them, it was unnecessary to use 1470.

Freeserve is now Wanadoo - or, judging by their service, Wanadon't! 
I use the same number for dialup, and queried this with them - they 
said the 1470 is an essential part of their dialup number, or I'd 
get charged for the call by BT!


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Re: [newbie] Xmms crashes

2004-07-08 Thread Margot
C. Tresenriter wrote:
I have 10.0 Official installed and get sound with Realplay but xmms
has problems.
When I load a CD to play and click on a track it crashes.
If I start a stream, it buffers and looks like it's connected - shows that
it's a stereo signal, but there's no sound and the timer sits at zero.
Then if I try to close it with the 'x' button, the button 
stays depressed and the app stays open.
If I then try to go to right click and go to options or grab it at the top it closes.

I'd thought it had something to do with the Arts soundwrapper -
which I remember solved another problem in the past but removing
it from the xmms info in the menu tool didn't help.
Seems like I resolved this in an earlier version of MDK but I'm
coming up blank this time.
Does this behavior sound familiar to anyone?
Curt
Sounds very familiar - I have still never managed to get xmms to 
work without crashing - the only solution I found was to install 
beep media player and use that instead - it looks exactly the same 
as xmms, but obviously works slightly differently underneath.

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Re: [newbie] The Mysteries of xfce4

2004-06-28 Thread Margot
Graham Watkins wrote:
Hi Dudes,
Thought I'd see what all the fuss is about with xfce4. Trouble is some 
things don't seem to work.  Don't have any menus any more - is this right?

The menus should appear if you right-click anywhere on the desktop. 
Did you not find this, or is it not working for you?

And finally (for now) the terminal icon doesn't work (although I can get 
a terminal by opening the manual and starting another shell).
I had the same problem - it seems to try to call up a type of 
terminal I didn't have installed! Solution was to right-click on the 
icon, select properties, and change the command to konsole.

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Re: [newbie] The Mysteries of xfce4

2004-06-28 Thread Margot
Graham Watkins wrote:
Margot wrote:
Graham Watkins wrote:
Hi Dudes,
Thought I'd see what all the fuss is about with xfce4. Trouble is 
some things don't seem to work.  Don't have any menus any more - is 
this right?

The menus should appear if you right-click anywhere on the desktop. 
Did you not find this, or is it not working for you?

Not working for me I'm afraid.

And finally (for now) the terminal icon doesn't work (although I can 
get a terminal by opening the manual and starting another shell).

I had the same problem - it seems to try to call up a type of terminal 
I didn't have installed! Solution was to right-click on the icon, 
select properties, and change the command to konsole.

Margot

Thanks Margot, I'll try that.
I've R'ing the TFM and there seems to be loads more stuff I don't seem 
to have.  This is what makes me think I'm missing parts of the package.

I seem to remember that the main bit came from Charles Edwards' 
source, with some additional bits from either plf or contrib...might 
be worth opening up the software installer on MCC and just searching 
for anything with xfce4 in the name...

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Re: [newbie] Mirror recommendations for urpmi?

2004-06-27 Thread Margot
Amy wrote:
Okay, so my friend has me running a cooker install of Mandrake, 
architecture i586, and I need reliable mirrors. I've used 
http://urpmi.org/easyurpmi/index.php to set up my mirrors so far, but 
the ones I pick seem to either be really super slow, or really weird 
about how they update their files leaving me with missing files that it 
tells me I should be able to install, or having some files updated, but 
files that are also needed due to dependencies (like perl!) being older 
and not correct for what I'm installing and/or updating.

I was hoping that you guys might be able to recommend some mirrors for 
me to try? I'm located in the SF bay area, CA, USA, so if possible, 
something close to me would be best, but I'll make due with something 
farther away if the mirror is reliable about being updated correctly. I 
suspect that the problem I'm having with firefox and thunderbird 
(separate thread posted for that) has something to do with files they 
depend on not being updated at the same time as they were.

Thanks in advance! ^_^
Amy, as you're running cooker, many people here and on the expert 
list won't be able to help you with your problems because they won't 
be experiencing the same problems you're having.

I suggest you subscribe to the cooker mailing list 
(http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/flists.php3) and lurk there for a 
while - you can't expect much in the way of tech support from the 
cooker list, it isn't designed for that, but at least you'll be able 
to keep an eye on the bug reports and fixes, some of which may be 
relevant to your situation.

When selecting mirrors, it makes no difference where you live - you 
just need to find one that works for you. The proxad mirrors in 
France are generally reliable, but of course if everybody starts 
using a particular mirror it will get slower for everyone!

Good luck!
Margot

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