Re: [newbie] Samba
I was able to get there from the other url Thanks! - Original Message - From: "Yacketta,Ronald J" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 2:26 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] Samba Ops! wrong one *blush* http://www.oreilly.com/ =-Original Message- =From: rharvey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] =Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 10:17 AM =To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] =Subject: Re: [newbie] Samba = = =Do you have the url =will you please post it. = =thanks =- Original Message - =From: "James Schofield" [EMAIL PROTECTED] =To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] =Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 6:10 AM =Subject: Re: [newbie] Samba = = = At 03:11 PM 11/1/00 -0600, you wrote: = Ok, I have been through two different configure setups, one from = Linuxnewbie and = = the other from a book called "Mastering Linux". Neither of which =reflects = the current = = Samba 2.0.7 that I am using and I have also looked at the =mandrake site. = Anyone know of = = a good source to guide me through setting up Samba? I'm =close but can't = quite get = = there with the available info. Swat won't make the changes =for me. I get =a = error = = message that says My computer is not authorized access. =Should I have =been = in root and = = not gone to a browser as a plain ole user? Advise is, as =usual, always = welcome. = = -- = Dennis M. a registered Linux user #180842 = = = Yes if you have not figured that out you have to be root to write to =things = in the /etc dir. So you would have to run swat as root. = = As for another good source for info. Have you hit the =ORiely book website = yet. Their using Samba book is also available for download =in HTML or PDF = format. = = Good luck.. I have done the same. = = = James Schofield = Linux user and loving it! Mandrake 7.1/Storm(Hail)/SusE 7.0 = "Trouble is where you find it, sooo stop looking for me!" = = = =
Re: [newbie] sendmail
use your ip address for the server in your outlook not your domain it works on mine - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 9:56 AM Subject: [newbie] sendmail I have enabled pop3 in my inetd.conf as well as have enabled fetchmail on boot up to no avail. the error I get when trying to pick up my mail on outlook express is Your server has unexpectedly terminated the connection. Possible causes for this include server problems, network problems, or a long period of inactivity. Account: 'cr705621-a', Server: 'cr705621-a.wlfdle1.on.wave.home.com', Protocol: POP3, Port: 110, Secure(SSL): No, Error Number: 0x800CCC0F No the email is not set to ssl and either is the sendmail I'm really lost any help would be great!!! Regards Mike Freeman Embrace the Penguin. Give Bill the cold shoulder! Linux Registered User #190770 (10/02/2000) Get your own free email account from http://www.popmail.com
Re: [newbie] sendmail question
sendmail is suppoed to support pop and stmp so does postfix postfix is what comes with the current linuxmandrake it is compatible with sendmail commands. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 10:25 AM Subject: RE: [newbie] sendmail question I am not expert on sendmail but I believe sendmail is only for sending mail out that's why you only see a reference to SMTP. Fetchmail retrieves mail. I hope that helps. --- Original Message --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wrote on Mon, 30 Oct 2000 09:22:38 -0600 (CST) -- Does sendmail support POP3. I have sendmail installed on my box at home, supporting a small local network and am trying to use windows 9X and 2000 to retrieve my mail threw outlook express. I also have a unit outside the network that I wish to get my email from at work. I wish to configure it to use the POP3 protical. I am having no luck at all finding any reference to POP at all (only SMTP). Any help would be great. Regards Mike Freeman Embrace the Penguin. Give Bill the cold shoulder! Linux Registered User #190770 (10/02/2000) . Get your own free email account from http://www.popmail.com - Sent using MailStart.com ( http://MailStart.Com/welcome.html ) The FREE way to access your mailbox via any web browser, anywhere!
Re: [newbie] Does anyone know how to set up a HP Deskjet 722C to work with Linux Mandrake 7.1?
18003873668 or a local booksamillion has a handy little cheat sheet for linux isbn number is 1-55080-350-6 it has all the print que commands as well as file and others - Original Message - From: "Doug McGarrett" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 12:47 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Does anyone know how to set up a HP Deskjet 722C to work with Linux Mandrake 7.1? At 09:47 AM 10/30/2000 -0500, someone wrote: Hi, /snip I've tried several times to log in under root, and use the printer configuration under DrakConfig, but now I can't get the printer to print out a test page! I was wondering if that might be because there were jobs in the print queue that couldn't print, blocking even a text only job from working. But, I couldn't find out how to access the print queue. /snip/ -Dan IIRC, there is a command, lprm -p printername that will clear the print queue. I don't know if this is your problem, but I can attest that the print queue is a tenacious beast! Good luck. --doug
Re: [newbie] Postfix anybody
I am going thru that now. I have been told it is dns. I went to www.postfix.com I printed out the configuration page.,... and dns stuff. I'll let you know what works. - Original Message - From: mike To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2000 2:20 AM Subject: [newbie] Postfix anybody If anyone out there is familiar with Postfix I could really use your help. Users who try to send mail Using a client like Outlook Express or Netscape messenger get a "User rejected by server" error message. Is there a file where I need to add all the users so Postfix will recognize them? These users already have an account on my Linux box... what more does Postfix need? Please help me I am going psycho crazy. --Mike
Re: [newbie] Postfix anybody
I plan to try the same thing but I have to get several cgi scripts move to a different box before I take this one down. - Original Message - From: "Brian K. Garel" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "rharvey" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2000 7:06 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Postfix anybody Hi, Don't know if this helps butafter spending a little bit of time on the Postfix website, (and seeing sendmail so prominantly mentioned), I decided to uninstall postfix and install the latest version of sendmail. The postfix website states "It is Wietse Venema's attempt to provide an alternatvie to the widely-used Sendmail program." After reading that I thought, it may be bigger better and more configurable, but sendmail works and I'm familiar with itwhy change Anywayafter I made the committment back to sendmail, inside 1 hour I had a fully funcitonal mail server again Is Postfix THAT much better than Sendmail? IMHO it ain't worth the hassle! :-) Later, On Sat, 28 Oct 2000, rharvey wrote: I am going thru that now. I have been told it is dns. I went to www.postfix.com I printed out the configuration page.,... and dns stuff. I'll let you know what works. - Original Message - From: mike To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2000 2:20 AM Subject: [newbie] Postfix anybody If anyone out there is familiar with Postfix I could really use your help. Users who try to send mail Using a client like Outlook Express or Netscape messenger get a "User rejected by server" error message. Is there a file where I need to add all the users so Postfix will recognize them? These users already have an account on my Linux box... what more does Postfix need? Please help me I am going psycho crazy. --Mike -- __ _) (, /) ,/ /) /---( __ _ __ / ___ _ __ _ // ) / )/ (__(_(_(_/ (_ / / ) (_(_/ (__(/_(/_ (_/ ( ( /
[newbie] Help!!!! How do you give a user rights to make them stay in his own home dir? How do you turn off services to just one user?!
How do you give a user rights to make them stay in his own home dir? How do you turn off services to just one user?
[newbie] how do you turn off windows-x autoloading?
how do you turn off windows-x autoloading? I want to be able to load it from command prompt. I don't want it running all the time. please give me the commands to start windows x and kde. Thanks in advance
[newbie] cgi - file not found but it is there!!!!
I have several cgi files but a new one we just put into the directory wont run. when you try to run it, the system says file not found Whats up? thanks
Re: [newbie] cable modem by pc card not be recognized by linuxconf
you can ask your provider for a static ip so you wont have to use dhcp- but your dhcp should work ok. Try unplugging your cable modem for say 30 sec and plugg it back in. restart your linux box. My cable modem gets a brain glitch and dhcp dies once in a great while. If you unplug it, it will refreash everything. and dhcp works agian - Original Message - From: Shih To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 1:06 PM Subject: [newbie] cable modem by pc card not be recognized by linuxconf custid=LFW71GV-32111391 When I use dhcpd and eth0 in linuxconf, network it response device not found I had cable modem through pc card in my notebook when it boot I listen one sharp beep one obtue beep when is that mean, do linux7.1 kernel recognized my cable modem hardware setup? my isp use dhcp hope to get your tech help soon best regard Eric(Shih) Lin
[newbie] Fw: mail server problem
- Original Message - From: "rharvey" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2000 11:16 PM Subject: mail server problem I have a linuxmandrake box. newest version... Linux uses postfix for a mail server. I think I have set it up to handle mail. I believe my current problem is I have a firewall... My domain name and IP go to the firewall which sends the service to 192.168.0.201 the Linux box. how do I set up the Linux box so it appears as far as the mail is concerned (at lest) that my domain name IP address is the same as 192.168.0.201? If this is not my problem but you think you know what it is please send me all the feed back you can. I have read most of the documents at the postfix site. Thanks Robert
[newbie] Fw: mail server problem
- Original Message - From: "rharvey" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2000 11:16 PM Subject: mail server problem I have a linuxmandrake box. newest version... Linux uses postfix for a mail server. I think I have set it up to handle mail. I believe my current problem is I have a firewall... My domain name and IP go to the firewall which sends the service to 192.168.0.201 the Linux box. how do I set up the Linux box so it appears as far as the mail is concerned (at lest) that my domain name IP address is the same as 192.168.0.201? If this is not my problem but you think you know what it is please send me all the feed back you can. I have read most of the documents at the postfix site. Thanks Robert
Re: [newbie] POP3 Mail Server
I thought postfix could do pop3 and smtp? Am I wrong? Do I need a different program to do pop3? If so is there a rpm of a good pop3 package. thanks Robert - Original Message - From: "Romanator" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2000 7:43 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] POP3 Mail Server --mike wrote: I am having a problem with my POP3 mail server. I am able to send and receive mail from my Linux box just fine. The problem is when I am at another location using a client such as Outlook express I am able to Recieve mail OK but when I try to send mail I get an error message saying "User 'mike' rejected by the server". I am sure Outlook is configured correctly. I also tried netscape and got a very similar error message. To me it seems like the problem is a configuration with the mail server. Here is some info: I have a domain name registered to my IP. I am running mandrake 7.1. I am using Postfix for SMTP and Qpopper for POP3. You people have been really great in the past. If anyone can help me or give me some advice I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks in advance, Mike Hi Mike, Server Names In Netscape, while logged in as root, try typing in: User_name or username for the Pop mail user name. Local host is: mail. The Pop server name is mail. The SMTP outgoing name is mail. The outgoing mail server name is: Your last name. Netscape While logged in as user, type in your actual last name for Pop mail user name. The Pop server name is mail. Another useful utility to install is Webmin. You can select PostFix and Mail Aliases for your mail server. I hope you find this useful. -- Roman Registered Linux User #179293
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Support
I have called micrsoft and got my free support that comes with the purchase of a new operating system. they helped me on the spot and I had 30 day left to ask for more help. - Original Message - From: "Larry Marshall" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Newbie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2000 7:19 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake Support I now know that various distributions deal with support in different ways. Slackware has email and web support. Red Hat has telephone support. However, I find Mandrake to be the best distribution for my needs. If Macmillan simply did not say they were offering "guaranteed 24-hour turnaround" support, there would be no issue. I would purchase it anyway. Do you realize that you're talking about no more than a couple "incidents" being covered by this support? Look closely at any of the agreements and you'll find that there's a time period and there's also a number of incidents where you can ask for, and receive, information. You are right that you should have gotten a response from Macmillan. It's also been stated that there have been enough problems with that support that Mandrake has taken it back so your experience (or at least the collective experience of the customer base) has been acknowledged by the parent company. My concern is that someone not familiar or experienced with Linux and the open source community process may be frustrated by the lack of response. Maybe so...but if they're a Windows user they have never gotten any response. Mandrake seems to have set the goal of being the best Linux distribution. I think they are doing it. This is one small element in the overall picture. That would seem to be the case. The RedHat people have just released a distro that seems to have problems with its "new" compiler (you can't even compile the kernel being distributed with it. I tried to install it the other day and could log on as root but couldn't even get a user running effectively. I decided that it just wasn't worth it. I guess I should have used my telephone support :-) Cheers --- Larry
Re: [newbie] Mandrake supportI
Some of the Linux Mandrake OS that is sold in stores offers free tech. support (phone support) if you register with them. I have not tried to use it. But I WOULD expect them to help me as promised. Emails that are hit and miss suggestions is not tech support. It is community support. Some times it is very accurate and some times you never hear a reply, some times the answer is a how to that is 68 pages long and after you work thru it your just as confused as you were before you started. That is when it is nice to have a knowledgeable person help you. Just my 2 Cents. Robert - Original Message - From: "Larry Marshall" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 13, 2000 7:56 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake supportI The problem is that I registered the product and as install support is advertised I expected to get a reply at the least. $40 dollars or not they I've registered a lot of software in my time but I've never expected a response. What do you want them to say? Presumably, if you have a problem, and you're registered, they'll help you do advertise support. It just hasn't happened. I don't want to beat up any supplier, but I expect them to do as they say. They say they'll give you email support, not be your friend :-) Cheers --- Larry
Re: [newbie] No messages for 2 days/ftp access problem
I have sent many messages and only my replys to a message already posted show up. I need to know how to get permission rights to be able to ftp in and upload to the default www dir in the new linux. I can ftp in. I can read the dir's but I cant write to /home/htttpd/html/ I have tried chmod I have given a user root rights still no success - Original Message - From: "Mark Weaver" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2000 3:19 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] No messages for 2 days I guess anything is possible, however it's more likely that there just might be something strange going on with the list. Have you tried writing the list owner to see if you're still on the list? -- Mark ** Registered Linux user # 182496 ** On Thu, 27 Jul 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have I unwittingly unsubscribed or is there a problem with the list ?
[newbie] access
I have set up an ftp server and an web server on my linux mandrake box. I can ftp in. but I cant upload thru ftp to the web servers www dir. I have tried chmod I have changed user access rights I still cant upload it says access denied. what do I need to do?
[newbie] error codes
is there a list of all or most common error codes and what causes them and maybe the way to fix the error?
Re: [newbie] Help!!
after you fdisk /mbr you have to sys the disk sys c: if you have norton utilites it will fix the boot partition for you. - Original Message - From: Kenny [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 11:09 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Help!! It doesnt, the computer just hangs if you just do fdisk/mrb I've done it before as an experiment with no lilo and even before i screwed up linux i had to do that no go. Kenny - Original Message - From: "Oliver L. Plaine Jr." [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 3:36 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Help!! On Mon, 29 May 2000 15:45:48 HST,edison wrote: Would sincerely appreciate any help guys. Is it possible to remove the LILO from my Windows disk and setup Linux to just boot from the 'boot disk'? edison = Tue, 30 May 2000 14:28:01 Believe it or not edison, I have had the same feeling you are experiencing right now... If you wish to remove your LILO from the MBR the easiest way I know is to start the computer with a DOS/Windows boot disc and type Fdisk/mbr this will write the mbr back to a windows configuration and when you boot again it should start MS windows. good luck, you will recover Olly P Biloxi Mississippi _ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: [newbie] GET READY FOR A DISCUSSION - New Tool
YES - Original Message - From: Dacia and AzureRose [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 7:58 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] GET READY FOR A DISCUSSION - New Tool That would be s cool! Dacia --- "Joseph S. Gardner" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Denis, I'd like to see a tool to assist in the compiling of a new kernel and then INSTALL it! -- Joseph S. Gardner Handi Krafts www.handi-krafts.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux is like a wigwam... No windows, no gates. Apache inside Registered linux user #1696600 ICQ #63389227 __ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/
[newbie] ftp
when i try to ftp into my linux box it says connect call failed. whats wrong?
[newbie] re-install
If I re- install and I want to install everything... what partitions do I need and how much space does each of them need? The autoconfigure does not know what I want to install so it does not set the partitions right thanks Robert
[newbie] high security server and ftp and telnet
I setup a linux box with the server choice and high security. I finally found the place to turn on the web service. http web services are running now. The ftp seems to be installed. all the info I have found says its all set up but I can't ftp into the server. I need ftp to upload my web pages. I also want telnet. It does not work either. i can ping the server. I can go from the server to other computers thru telnet. Is it the security level? do i need to re-install and set the secutity level down? How do I get access to the services.. ( I do not have the gui auto loading. i can startx but i can't get any of the gui's to run..kde...gnome..ect...) so I guess any info sent on how to fix this will have to be no-gui commands. thanks in advance Robert
Re: [newbie] FDISK doesn't work for partition magic
a win98 boot disk? if so win 98 expracts most of its files to a ram drive make sure it is expanding it. I dont rember if fdisk was on the disk or compressed to be extraced to the ram drive. - Original Message - From: Sam Junge To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 25, 2000 2:04 PM Subject: [newbie] FDISK doesn't work for partition magic As indicated in my previous messages, i have a problem with partition magic. I used a boot disk,but dos doesn't recognize fdisk at either the c or the a prompts
Re: [newbie] Installation after new processor installation
are you sure you set all the jumpers on your main board correctly for your new processor? is your win98 not booting up? use your win98 boot disk go to c: and do a fdisk /mbr from the command prompt then try rebooting and see what happens. you should be able to get into windows if you put lilo in the boot sector. another option is to use your boot disk for linux and do a re-install and install linux and lilo agian. I would think that would update all the linux files and allow things to function again.
Re: [newbie] Second request - gnome slow on Mandrake 7.0
there is a ratio between your swap file and your memory I dont rember what it is off the top of my head but if you were one of the ones that auto installed and the install detected less memory than you really had you may not have enough swap file. Let me know if you need the ratio recommendations. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 18, 2000 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Second request - gnome slow on Mandrake 7.0 Yes, but I had only 80mb of RAM in that particular PC, so I assume that was the cause. Bryan "Frank Rocco" [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 02/18/2000 11:10:23 AM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Newbie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Bryan Moorehead/Link/Allied Holdings) Subject: [newbie] Second request - gnome slow on Mandrake 7.0 Hi Again, I'm still showing extreme slowness in gnome over kde. Has anyone experienced this? Thanks Frank
[newbie] Can you set up linux to let people dial in and gain access to your network?
Can you set up linux to let people dial in and gain access to your network?
Re: [newbie] Can you set up linux to let people dial in and gain access to your network?
where can i get the info on this and what hardware would i need besides a modem? - Original Message - From: David van Balen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 18, 2000 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Can you set up linux to let people dial in and gain access to your network? Yeah, as long as you have the proper hardware and it's configured right. DvB On Fri, 18 Feb 2000, rharvey wrote: Can you set up linux to let people dial in and gain access to your network?
Re: [newbie] Second request - gnome slow on Mandrake 7.0
my manual says " you should create a swap partition that does not exceed twice the size of your physical ram or 128 mb which ever is less. for example if you have 32 mb of ram you can create a 64 mb swap partition. (partition type linus swap)" personally I set it up so that no gui's open automatically. then i start xinit (this start xwindows) then type the gui you want to load kde or enlightenment I like enlightenment my 6 yr old likes the kde the only reason I did this was because I need to learn the commands to function from the prompt not a gui. - Original Message - From: Frank Rocco [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 18, 2000 12:23 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] Second request - gnome slow on Mandrake 7.0 Thanks, please send me the ratios and how to apply them. Should I reinstall and select only gnome? Frank -Original Message----- From: rharvey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 18, 2000 11:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Second request - gnome slow on Mandrake 7.0 there is a ratio between your swap file and your memory I dont rember what it is off the top of my head but if you were one of the ones that auto installed and the install detected less memory than you really had you may not have enough swap file. Let me know if you need the ratio recommendations. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 18, 2000 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Second request - gnome slow on Mandrake 7.0 Yes, but I had only 80mb of RAM in that particular PC, so I assume that was the cause. Bryan "Frank Rocco" [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 02/18/2000 11:10:23 AM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Newbie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Bryan Moorehead/Link/Allied Holdings) Subject: [newbie] Second request - gnome slow on Mandrake 7.0 Hi Again, I'm still showing extreme slowness in gnome over kde. Has anyone experienced this? Thanks Frank
Re: [newbie] Question never answered.
jeff, at work we have compaq's they have a little wire that we plug from the nic to the main board. with the option you are taking about turned on. we can turn on and boot up a pc remotely. robert - Original Message - From: jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 18, 2000 5:01 PM Subject: [newbie] Question never answered. As I have been playing around, getting to know linux. I have discovered allot of neat things. But as I have been playing I have discovered in my bios that I can set it to boot from the LAN. What I am wondering is, what do I have to do on the LAN in order to do this? I have tried it and the system just sits there waiting on something. Does anyone here have any experience with doing this ? Jeff
[newbie] ras as it is called in windows nt
any one know how to set up a "ras" box with linux? My nt box lets my mom and dad dial my computer and get mail and internet access. How do you set this up on linux?
Re: [newbie] USB on Mandrake 7
in the mandrake instructions they said they had a very buggy driver for usb. see the install html on the mandrake 70-2 cd - Original Message - From: Alan Shoemaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2000 9:32 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] USB on Mandrake 7 Seanlike all other Linux distributions that use the 2.2.x kernal, Mandrake 7 doesn't support any USB devices. Alan Sean Geoghegan wrote: Any body had any success getting USB devices to work on MAndrake 7. I've got a mouse and a 56K Modem that I can't use. Thanks Sean Geoghegan
Re: [newbie] 6.1 True Type fonts...
do you have a cd burner? mandrake 70-2 iso is free for downloading and runs really great as to your font problem I dont know. netscape does not support all the html fonts - Original Message - From: Jim Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2000 9:04 AM Subject: [newbie] 6.1 True Type fonts... Greetings, Last night a decided to jump from RH6.0 to Mandrake 6.1 for a change a change of pace. I'm having a hard time getting my true type fonts to recognize like I had in RH. I did what I usually do... mkdir /usr/share/fonts/ttf cp /C/windows/fonts/*.ttf /usr/share/fonts/ttf cd /usr/share/fonts/ttf ttmkfdir fonts.scale mkfontdir Then added the new path to the /etc/X11/fs/config under the "catalogue" section. ...I restart and nothing . The only true type fonts I get at the same ugly fonts that install by default with mandrake in the ttfonts dir. I noticed there is no fonts.scale listed in that directory? What might I be missing? My apologies of this is something I should have picked up on in the normal docs. Regards, Jim
Re: [newbie] USB on Mandrake 7
when i installed the mandrake70-2 on my laptop I got an html install file and in that file it said that there was usb support but it was real buggy I did not pay any attention any other info concerning usb because my laptop does not have usb on it. I can look for you I you want. - Original Message - From: Alan Shoemaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2000 1:31 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] USB on Mandrake 7 rharveyI just spent close to 15 minutes looking for any reference to USB on my 7.02 CD. I found nothing. Alan rharvey wrote: in the mandrake instructions they said they had a very buggy driver for usb. see the install html on the mandrake 70-2 cd - Original Message - From: Alan Shoemaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2000 9:32 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] USB on Mandrake 7 Seanlike all other Linux distributions that use the 2.2.x kernal, Mandrake 7 doesn't support any USB devices. Alan Sean Geoghegan wrote: Any body had any success getting USB devices to work on MAndrake 7. I've got a mouse and a 56K Modem that I can't use. Thanks Sean Geoghegan
[newbie] USB is avaliable ---kinda grin
I went to www.linux-mandrak.com did a search. below are two interesting links. You can go there and search and look at a few of the other hits. http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/airfeat.php3 ... new desktop configuration panel which enables users to easily configure and modify hardware devices such as video cards, keyboard, mouse (including USB keyboards and mice). DrakConf also includes the new Lothar utility which is a set of tools that offers auto-detecting and configuring of additional ... http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/contribs/hackkernel-headers-2.3.35-6mdk.i586.html ... files are also needed for rebuilding the kernel. WARNING: This is the CURRENT DEVELOPMENT VERSION of the Linux kernel. It has more hardware support (USB, etc.) and is probably faster than the normal kernel, but it is NOT STABLE. In the worst case, it can damage your installation, or even your hardware ..
Re: [newbie] irq's
my system says there is no such dir it also says no such file i did a search what now? - Original Message - From: Audrey Beck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2000 4:35 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] irq's Log in as root to a console window and enter: cat /proc/interrupts rharvey wrote: is there a way to get a list of irq's. in windows you can see what irq and dma's and addresses are free so you can set an card up to work with the free resources. where can I find this info at it linux?
[newbie] irq's
is there a way to get a list of irq's. in windows you can see what irq and dma's and addresses are free so you can set an card up to work with the free resources. where can I find this info at it linux?
Re: [newbie]Mandrake on a 486 - was Laptop
the docs that come with mandrake says there are other versions of mandrak for the 486 processor. - Original Message - From: Vic [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 14, 2000 12:25 AM Subject: Re: [newbie]Mandrake on a 486 - was Laptop there is RedHat On Sun, 13 Feb 2000, rharvey mewed: i understand ther is a specific version for a 486 processor everything else is for a pent and higher. - Original Message - From: Walter C Lucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2000 5:16 PM Subject: Re: [newbie]Mandrake on a 486 - was Laptop yes during instal. On Fri, 11 Feb 2000 23:03:51 -0500 root [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well two things, when are you getting this error? During the install? And on the other note, i am running 7.0.2 air! on a 133 mhz intel pent w/ 48mb ram and i gotta say it runs so very smothly ( as i run netscape mail / nav / dl a nice long file and use a xxms at the same time without skipping... and gnome Icu.. oh yea im in gnome ; ) ) Dave Walter C Lucas wrote: Hello I am attempting to instal Linux mandrake onto a 486DX 100mghz. I low level formatted both brains(c and D) and everything started out fine. On little light number three, i got an error message that it can't open /proc/bus/pci/devices. Now this computer had win3.1, win 95, and i even had win 98 on it(though slow). what can I do. This was a download linux Maandrake from one of my computer literate coworkers. I however am a NEWBIE to it all.Any suggestions will be appreciated. Thanks Luke On Fri, 11 Feb 2000 16:06:22 -0800 John Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At 10:10 PM 2/11/00 GMT, you wrote: you cant run 7.0 well on a 486, it's made for pentiums, and I hear you need at least a 233 for it to run somewhat ok! Jim Garner Well, it depends on your needs. I have 6.0 on a P90 with 32 Mb and it does just fine as long as you stick to a Window Manager and stay away from KDE or Gnome. Personally I can't see why anyone who is a refugee from MS would want to use KDE anyway. My problem with Win 95 was the arbitrary way in which you had to work. In many ways (not all) I find that KDE is even more arbitrary. Gnome seems much more flexible. As far as crashes in Win 95 goes I think KDE ties up about as much. The great joy of Linux is all of the stuff which you can do without the pretty little pictures. Try the command line - you may never leave it. I too think that a single user version is necessary if Linux is to become a household name. John Montgomery YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.
Re: [translation] Re: [newbie] No consigo instalar Linux Mandrake 6.1
I had an hang up problem and it was my cd i burned the cd face was too dark for my cdrom to read all of it. It booted and installed halfway and the install would error out I created a cd with a more silvery face and it worked fine. (the cd i was getting an error from work fine on other cdrom drives...) I dont know if this is your problem but I thought i would put it out there so any one having this problem will reconize it. - Original Message - From: David van Balen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2000 1:32 PM Subject: [translation] Re: [newbie] No consigo instalar Linux Mandrake 6.1 He says his install of LM6.1 hangs while installing a package called "Glib.1_2.rpm." Any ideas? Jesus, trata de que no instale ese paquete que cuelga la instalacion (el glib) e instalalo luego cuando allas complatado la instalacion del sistema operativo. Eso es todo lo que se me ocurre pero he traducido, en pocas palabras, tu problema y tal vez alguien tenga otras ideas. Espero que esto ayude. DvB On Sun, 13 Feb 2000, Jesus wrote: Hola soy Jesus estudiante de 2º de ingeniería Informática y siempre me he interesado por otros sistemas operativos alternativos a Windows, me habían hablado muy bien del Mandrake así que me compré una revista donde venia la distribución 6.1. Tengo un Pentium 166 con 2 Gigas y 32 megas de Ram, y una tarjeta de Video PCI de dos megas. Tengo hechas 4 particiones en el disco duro, 2 Fat32 donde tengo Windows y otras dos linux tal como me indicaba la revista, una de 64 megas y la otra de 700. El problema está en que al instalarlo una vez que elijo lo que quiero instalar, cuando comienza a instalar los paquetes nada más comenzar instala un par de paquetes y cuando intenta instalar un paquete que se llama Glib.1_2.rpm se queda pillado el ordenador y no responde, lo he intentado todo, modificando parte de la Bios, no instalando el KDE incluso si solo selecciono para instalar el emacs pasa lo mismo, se apalanca el ordenador y no responde. Así que no se que hacer, haber si me podeis ayudar vale?, muchas gracias. Jesus Gemio, Getafe a 13-2-2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie]Mandrake on a 486 - was Laptop
i understand ther is a specific version for a 486 processor everything else is for a pent and higher. - Original Message - From: Walter C Lucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2000 5:16 PM Subject: Re: [newbie]Mandrake on a 486 - was Laptop yes during instal. On Fri, 11 Feb 2000 23:03:51 -0500 root [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well two things, when are you getting this error? During the install? And on the other note, i am running 7.0.2 air! on a 133 mhz intel pent w/ 48mb ram and i gotta say it runs so very smothly ( as i run netscape mail / nav / dl a nice long file and use a xxms at the same time without skipping... and gnome Icu.. oh yea im in gnome ; ) ) Dave Walter C Lucas wrote: Hello I am attempting to instal Linux mandrake onto a 486DX 100mghz. I low level formatted both brains(c and D) and everything started out fine. On little light number three, i got an error message that it can't open /proc/bus/pci/devices. Now this computer had win3.1, win 95, and i even had win 98 on it(though slow). what can I do. This was a download linux Maandrake from one of my computer literate coworkers. I however am a NEWBIE to it all.Any suggestions will be appreciated. Thanks Luke On Fri, 11 Feb 2000 16:06:22 -0800 John Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At 10:10 PM 2/11/00 GMT, you wrote: you cant run 7.0 well on a 486, it's made for pentiums, and I hear you need at least a 233 for it to run somewhat ok! Jim Garner Well, it depends on your needs. I have 6.0 on a P90 with 32 Mb and it does just fine as long as you stick to a Window Manager and stay away from KDE or Gnome. Personally I can't see why anyone who is a refugee from MS would want to use KDE anyway. My problem with Win 95 was the arbitrary way in which you had to work. In many ways (not all) I find that KDE is even more arbitrary. Gnome seems much more flexible. As far as crashes in Win 95 goes I think KDE ties up about as much. The great joy of Linux is all of the stuff which you can do without the pretty little pictures. Try the command line - you may never leave it. I too think that a single user version is necessary if Linux is to become a household name. John Montgomery YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.
Re: [newbie] Urgent -- how to get back to KDE
i dont have kde starting and i start it manually type at the prompt xinit and iin the window type kde (also try enlightenment instead of kde i like it better.) - Original Message - From: David van Balen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2000 11:34 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Urgent -- how to get back to KDE Hmmm... now sure how to do it from the console but, if you're desperate, you can try booting in level 5 (type linux 5 at the lilo boot) and choose it from there. DvB On Sat, 12 Feb 2000, Benjamin Sher wrote: Using Mandrake 6.1 I am typing to you from Pine in the Console. I have been having endless problems with my mouse. I thought I would try testing it in Gnome. Well, it's even worse in Gnome. In KDE, my mouse lasts about 5 to 10 minutes. In Gnome, it dies almost instantly. And now, when I try in xterm (in Gnome) to switch back and I type "switchdesk" to get into KDE, I cannot even do that. After typing "switchdesk" and trying to move my mouse over to the Switchdesk utility screen, my mouse dies on me before I even have a chance to click on the "KDE" or "Another Level" option. I am forever stuck in Gnome. How do I get into KDE or Another Level from the console in a situation like this. If I type "startx", I am taken right back into Gnome. Sounds like a vicious circle. Help! Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net
Re: [newbie] Urgent -- how to get back to KDE
what mouse are you using? - Original Message - From: Audrey Beck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2000 5:59 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Urgent -- how to get back to KDE Benjamin Sher wrote: Using Mandrake 6.1 I am typing to you from Pine in the Console. I have been having endless problems with my mouse. I thought I would try testing it in Gnome. Well, it's even worse in Gnome. In KDE, my mouse lasts about 5 to 10 minutes. In Gnome, it dies almost instantly. And now, when I try in xterm (in Gnome) to switch back and I type "switchdesk" to get into KDE, I cannot even do that. After typing "switchdesk" and trying to move my mouse over to the Switchdesk utility screen, my mouse dies on me before I even have a chance to click on the "KDE" or "Another Level" option. I am forever stuck in Gnome. How do I get into KDE or Another Level from the console in a situation like this. If I type "startx", I am taken right back into Gnome. Sounds like a vicious circle. Help! Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net Try desktopcfg at the console. That should give you all the choices you have installed.
Re: [newbie] The saga continues...update:
does your one of your cards have jumpers on them? the instructions can tell you how to change your irq manually robert - Original Message - From: Audrey Beck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2000 6:12 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] The saga continues...update: Works fine in Mandrake 6.1. Audrey Beck wrote: Dave wrote: I tried changing (in the BIOS), the eth0 to IRQ 3...and when I went back to linux, ide0 had changed with it...is there some other way to change IRQs then? thx -Dave I have the same type of thing. I thought it was just me and understanding a new system. My ethernet card and video card want to share the same IRQ no matter what. I disabled the IRQ for the video card and they just both changed to a different IRQ, but both the same one (per windows and linux only shows the ethernet card, so no X for me). The video is onboard and ethernet card is PCI (I tried switching PCI slots too). This is on an IBM 300GL system and Red Hat 6.1. I haven't tried Mandrake on the IBM system because I am waiting for my 7.x cd. I'll try Mandrake 6.1 and see what it does with it and report back. Your IDE is onboard and the ethernet is PCI. What system are you running this on? Someone else on the list was reporting a problem with video on an IBM 300PL. Maybe it's the same as my problem?
Re: [newbie] telnet access
try /bin/linuxconf you can change your security there.. are you teleneting like "telenet 192.168.21.5" using the ip address instead of an name? - Original Message - From: Sam [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2000 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] telnet access Well Chris, Only wild guess I have left is that you did the high security Mandrake 7.0 install. If so, and you start the system allowing the high security "linux" boot to run .. as opposed to the "linux-up" (which is the less secure) boot up ... that possiably the secure boot has telnet shut down and will not allow telnet to operate. Look at the prompt on one of your terminals ... if it says "Kernal 2.2.14-16mdksecure on a i586 / tty? as opposed to "Kernal 2.2.14-16mdk on a i586 / tty? Then you may wish to shutdown .. and reboot .. when it begins to come up hit the tab key ... and choose "linux-up" this will boot you in a less secure state. Please be aware this is the blind leading the blind here Chris. I only jumped in thinking I might have the answer due to having had the same telnetd problems with my Mandrake 6.1 install. Hopefully one of the GURU's here will straighten us both out soon. God Bless, Sam http://www.wcc.net/~peacemkr/linuxindex.html NOT an IE friendly sight! Chris wrote: I found telnetd in /usr/lib so it is there... any other ideas that might help? Chris - Original Message - From: Sam [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2000 10:57 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] telnet access Chris wrote: I ran a port scanner to find out if the telnet port was open and it is, but i am unable to gain access via telnet to my linux machine. It pings fine.. i tried changing the port it was using but still it give me this message connection failed could not open a connection on "my ip" Any Ideas would be great Chris Hello Chris, I believe you may find that telnetd is not installed on your machine. From the command line: locate telnetd If it is missing, as I suspect. Look on your CD or on one of the ftp sites for your distro. If you plan to use this in an environment that might be open for hackers. I understand a program called SSH is a much more secure way of telneting. No I don't know how to run or install SSH. I'm trying to figure that out my self now. I found these links of intrest on it: http://www.linux.ie/tutorials/ssh.html http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/ssh-clients.html God Bless, Sam
Re: [newbie] Shootin Blanks
make sure that your in your bios you printer port is set for bi-directional - Original Message - From: Kit [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2000 1:40 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Shootin Blanks TRy the ones for 500 seriesthey worked for me...and I have the 600 Brent Timmer wrote: No matter what printer driver I choose for my deskjet 600c, all I get when I print is a blank page spit at me. Any ideas? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ# 7110071 HomePage: http://kwg.virtualave.net/kwg http://kompukit.dyndns.org (personal webserver,does NOT run 24/7)
Re: [newbie] Nic Problems
i had that problem go to a shell and type route on the far right you will see eth0 eht1 ect matching the number of cards you have on the left of the eth0 is the gateway what you put in or is it 254 like mine did? you can change it by typing route add default gw thegatewayhere eth0 this will fix your problem. - Original Message - From: Ron Warren To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2000 6:12 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Nic Problems I got the nic to work and can ping my default gateway to the internet, but still no internet. I cannot ping an internet ip address. It seems that Sygate 3.1 is not routing me to the internet. The WinNT -ws can ping the Liinux box but routing is still not working. Getting Sygate to work on my Windows network was a no brainer with DHCP, but for Linux Sygate says that I need to set it up manually for some reason. - Original Message - From: Ron Warren To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2000 5:42 AM Subject: [newbie] Nic Problems Hi, I just installed Mandrake 7.0 on my network and I can't get the Nic to work. I have a 3com905 that Mandrake configured under Lothar. I'm have a cable modem connection on a Win NT 4.0 workstation that is running Sygate 3.1 proxy to my other Windows clients. Sygate states in it's docs thatyou can run Linux under TCP/IP as long as you configure the routing tables manually (no DHCP). I think I have everything set up correctly in network configuration to eth0 (manual, enabled, modual 3c59x). The problem is that I have no internet connection through Sygate via my WinNT-ws. I can ping my loopback address but not my ip address or the default gateway. The subnet mask is also correct. My default gateway and DNS are set to the ip address of the WinNT workstation. No problems on my other Windows clients.
Re: [newbie] 3C905 connect fix
type in a shell /bin/linuxconf make sure you have all your ip addresses and gateways setup form the shell type route make sure your ehth0 is set to the right gateway this kept my computer form getting out it defaults to .254 if it's wrong you can type route add default gw yourgatewayip eth0 and you should be able to connect thru your 3 com card I have a linksys and I put it in a win98 machine I did not want to have to fuss with a new driver. - Original Message - From: sdos [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2000 1:55 PM Subject: [newbie] 3C905 and IRC Hello, I have recently installed Mandrake 7, and love it, only problem I have is I have 2 network cards, one in a linksys ehter16 isa, and the other is a 3com 506b isa (which I believe some one has posted about already) I can't get either one to work, it sees the 3com for sure, but I don't believe it is working, and the linksys I'm using the ne driver for, and I have no clue about that one. also, if anyone is using isdn, I could use some help on that too, I'm dialing up with my 56k now, but have isdn and would like to use it. Also, can anyone suggest a nice quick small irc client, nothing fancy, just something that works. T4nX Ernie H Kitchen Computer Technology 7 String Superman "If you can't drink and drive, why do bars have parking lots?" P.S. That ass that sent the Junk OS email... I'm an MCSE, I know everything about windows and NT anyone would want to know... and my systems rarely crash here's the difference... my Linux box NEVER crashes... I support everything that does what I want it to, I'm here to bash no one. =)
Re: [newbie] KDE startup
i had to type at the shell prompt xinit kde and that load up my kde for me. - Original Message - From: JP [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 11, 2000 5:24 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] KDE startup I also have installed linux-mandrake twice and I can't get kde going either. I have xterm and xconsole up but can't get kde to start. I have re-read the installation guide and notice that at one point it mentions selecting the components to install, when I have installed the software I did not get a chance to select different packages, it appears to have installed them all. I admit to be a very green newbie on linux and could use some help in getting started. Thanks, J.P. Cazares Rick N wrote: Chris wrote: I have installed it twice now, Once with out starting into x the other with..either way i am not getting the kde going... at this point the kde and gnome both installed, but I am new and not sure how to activate them yet. After you login and are at the command prompt, if you type in KDE, it should start. Rick N -- J.P. Cazares Office (317) 248-1093 Pager (888) 934-6190 email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Shootin Blanks
do you know how to get in to your bios? what kind of bios do you have? - Original Message - From: Brent Timmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2000 7:36 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Shootin Blanks Don't have an option for that. - Original Message - From: rharvey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2000 7:26 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Shootin Blanks make sure that your in your bios you printer port is set for bi-directional - Original Message - From: Kit [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2000 1:40 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Shootin Blanks TRy the ones for 500 seriesthey worked for me...and I have the 600 Brent Timmer wrote: No matter what printer driver I choose for my deskjet 600c, all I get when I print is a blank page spit at me. Any ideas? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ# 7110071 HomePage: http://kwg.virtualave.net/kwg http://kompukit.dyndns.org (personal webserver,does NOT run 24/7)
Re: [newbie] 70-2.iso
I have burned two cd from two different downloads using different programs to make sure it was dl'ed in binary. both cd's error out in the same place I also swapped out my key board. I will try a different program to create the cd tonight. - Original Message - From: Dan LaBine To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 11:58 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] 70-2.iso Probably the CD. Sounds like the download was corrupted. Only other option is your keyboard ( based on the info in your post ). Download the ISO file again, and burn a new copy. - Original Message - From: rharvey To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2000 12:36 AM Subject: [newbie] 70-2.iso Icreated a install cd from the iso 70-2. It boots i choose any install then any choice (recommend custom expert, and/or server/develop./whatever). while it is installing the pkgs it say it does not know how to handle an error. dumpkeys faild at /usr/bin/perl - install/keyboard.pm line217 please help. is it my cd or the computer thanks robert
[newbie] 70-2.iso
Icreated a install cd from the iso 70-2. It boots i choose any install then any choice (recommend custom expert, and/or server/develop./whatever). while it is installing the pkgs it say it does not know how to handle an error. dumpkeys faild at /usr/bin/perl - install/keyboard.pm line217 please help. is it my cd or the computer thanks robert
