Re: [newbie] AMD Support
On Saturday 24 January 2004 05:23, Ayoub890 wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 22 January 2004 22:54, Ayoub890 wrote: jason pearl wrote: On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 21:19:23 -0800 Ayoub890 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Deleted] Which is the best web resource for information on compatible hardware? Thanx, Ayoub mandrake.com and look up compatability I looked at the motherboards in the Hardware Database over there and I got scared. How come we are still in business? There is only incompatibles in the Database. Problems are always more reported than successes. Have you tried the TWiki page http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/HardwareCompatibility ? Anne I think it would probably encourage hardware manufacturers to produce compatible products if they see Mandrake and other linux distributions doing free advertising for copmatible hardware produced by their competition. I am surprised this is not done! I don't imagine that would be easy to do. It's always easy to say what others should do. We benefit from Mandrake's policy, and we have to do our bit to repay that. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] AMD Support
On Thursday 22 January 2004 22:54, Ayoub890 wrote: jason pearl wrote: On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 21:19:23 -0800 Ayoub890 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Deleted] Which is the best web resource for information on compatible hardware? Thanx, Ayoub mandrake.com and look up compatability I looked at the motherboards in the Hardware Database over there and I got scared. How come we are still in business? There is only incompatibles in the Database. Problems are always more reported than successes. Have you tried the TWiki page http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/HardwareCompatibility ? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] AMD Support
Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 22 January 2004 22:54, Ayoub890 wrote: jason pearl wrote: On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 21:19:23 -0800 Ayoub890 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Deleted] Which is the best web resource for information on compatible hardware? Thanx, Ayoub mandrake.com and look up compatability I looked at the motherboards in the Hardware Database over there and I got scared. How come we are still in business? There is only incompatibles in the Database. Problems are always more reported than successes. Have you tried the TWiki page http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/HardwareCompatibility ? Anne Yes I have seen it, and it did not help me go to sleep last night. Thanx, Ayoub Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] AMD Support
On Friday 23 January 2004 18:03, Ayoub890 wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 22 January 2004 22:54, Ayoub890 wrote: jason pearl wrote: On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 21:19:23 -0800 Ayoub890 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Deleted] Which is the best web resource for information on compatible hardware? Thanx, Ayoub mandrake.com and look up compatability I looked at the motherboards in the Hardware Database over there and I got scared. How come we are still in business? There is only incompatibles in the Database. Problems are always more reported than successes. Have you tried the TWiki page http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/HardwareCompatibility ? Anne Yes I have seen it, and it did not help me go to sleep last night. So then I can be confident that when you have a running system you will be adding lots to the compatiblity database? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] AMD Support
Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 22 January 2004 22:54, Ayoub890 wrote: jason pearl wrote: On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 21:19:23 -0800 Ayoub890 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Deleted] Which is the best web resource for information on compatible hardware? Thanx, Ayoub mandrake.com and look up compatability I looked at the motherboards in the Hardware Database over there and I got scared. How come we are still in business? There is only incompatibles in the Database. Problems are always more reported than successes. Have you tried the TWiki page http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/HardwareCompatibility ? Anne I think it would probably encourage hardware manufacturers to produce compatible products if they see Mandrake and other linux distributions doing free advertising for copmatible hardware produced by their competition. I am surprised this is not done! Ayoub Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] AMD Support
Snip I use nothing but AMD here, no problems with any Linux distro Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] AMD Support
On Thursday 22 January 2004 12:19 am, Ayoub890 wrote: Which is the best web resource for information on compatible hardware? We have set up a wiki page here http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/HardwareCompatibility -- /g Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] AMD Support
jason pearl wrote: On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 21:19:23 -0800 Ayoub890 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Deleted] Which is the best web resource for information on compatible hardware? Thanx, Ayoub mandrake.com and look up compatability I looked at the motherboards in the Hardware Database over there and I got scared. How come we are still in business? There is only incompatibles in the Database. Thanx, Ayoub Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] AMD Support
Thanks for the help on my last question. I hopefully won't be asking too many more... Has anyone found problems installing/running Mandrake on AMD Athlon or Duron processors? Thanks, Colin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] AMD Support
On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 17:13:08 -0500 Colin O'Connor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the help on my last question. I hopefully won't be asking too many more... Has anyone found problems installing/running Mandrake on AMD Athlon or Duron processors? Thanks, Colin i havent had any problems... i have ran an athlon 2.4 and a duron 850 and opteron 1.6. which i currently use. -- jason pearl [EMAIL PROTECTED] ++ Keep your friends close and your enemies closer-Tupac ++ Kurrupted Visionz Phx, AZregistered linux user #307811 MDK 9.2 LinuxMachine# 193475, 227341 AMD64 Opteron 1.6http://counter.li.org ASUS SK8N uptime: 15:15:55 up 1 day, 2:48, 4 users, load average: 0.01, 0.02, 0.00 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] AMD Support
On Wed, 2004-01-21 at 17:13, Colin O'Connor wrote: Thanks for the help on my last question. I hopefully won't be asking too many more... Has anyone found problems installing/running Mandrake on AMD Athlon or Duron processors? Thanks, Colin I am running Masndrake on an AMD athlon xp 1500 with no problems and have also run it using a duron 1.2 ghtz with no problems. Walt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] AMD Support
On Thu, 2004-01-22 at 00:13, Colin O'Connor wrote: Thanks for the help on my last question. I hopefully won't be asking too many more... Has anyone found problems installing/running Mandrake on AMD Athlon or Duron processors? Thanks, Colin I use Athlon, no problem. Paul M Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] AMD Support
On Wed, 2004-01-21 at 15:13, Colin O'Connor wrote: Thanks for the help on my last question. I hopefully won't be asking too many more... Has anyone found problems installing/running Mandrake on AMD Athlon or Duron processors? Thanks, Colin I'm running an Athlon XP1500+. Works like a charm! (Mandrake 9.1 and 9.2) Travis Crook Visions Beyond Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] AMD Support
On Wednesday 21 January 2004 05:13 pm, Colin O'Connor wrote: Thanks for the help on my last question. I hopefully won't be asking too many more... Has anyone found problems installing/running Mandrake on AMD Athlon or Duron processors? Thanks, Colin Colin: Well, I've had four AMD's, starting with a K6-2-300 and Mandrake 7.0 and working up to my present XP2500+ and 9.2. Any problems were all on this side of the case. (I also had a 486DX4-120 back in my DR-DOS days -- it, too, worked very well.) The big deal with Athlons is (1) make sure that you have a good power supply (see the AMD site for recommendations) and (2) there ain't no such thing as too much cooling. Perhaps more important than the CPU is the chipset. I've always had VIA's. There were some problems with them several years ago, but, as near as I can tell, they pretty much have their act under control now. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] AMD Support
On Wednesday 21 January 2004 04:13 pm, Colin O'Connor wrote: Thanks for the help on my last question. I hopefully won't be asking too many more... Has anyone found problems installing/running Mandrake on AMD Athlon or Duron processors? Thanks, Colin Some motherboard chipsets that used the old AMD K6 processors were a PITA but I have never had a minutes trouble installing ML on any of the stuff built in the last 3 or 4 years. I have built around 50 machines with Athlon XP processors and several brands of MOBOs, the installation of ML has always gone very well. Marc KM5KW Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] AMD Support
On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 09:23 am, many eyes noted that Paul wrote: Has anyone found problems installing/running Mandrake on AMD Athlon or Duron processors? Thanks, Colin I use Athlon, no problem. Paul M I run two Athlon systems and they are sweet. AMD Athlon XP 1600+ AMD Athlon XP 1800+ Charlie -- Knowing ignorance is strength. Ignoring knowledge is sickness. --Lao Tsu This email is guaranteed to be wholly Linux Mandrake 9.1, Kmail v1.5 and OpenOffice.org1.1.0 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] AMD Support
Marc wrote: On Wednesday 21 January 2004 04:13 pm, Colin O'Connor wrote: Thanks for the help on my last question. I hopefully won't be asking too many more... Has anyone found problems installing/running Mandrake on AMD Athlon or Duron processors? Thanks, Colin Some motherboard chipsets that used the old AMD K6 processors were a PITA but I have never had a minutes trouble installing ML on any of the stuff built in the last 3 or 4 years. I have built around 50 machines with Athlon XP processors and several brands of MOBOs, the installation of ML has always gone very well. Marc KM5KW Which is the best web resource for information on compatible hardware? Thanx, Ayoub Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] AMD system question
- Original Message - From: Jose M. Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 3:01 AM Subject: RE: [newbie] AMD system question |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Lyvim Xaphir |Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 2:17 PM |To: NewbieMandrake-List |Subject: RE: [newbie] AMD system question | | |I say to P4 advocates, ignore |the smoke and mirrors and look at the man behind the curtain; |click your heels together three times and go home to Athlon. | I've been to OZ thank you. The AMD's wicked witch drove me back to P4's. What am I talking about? Surely not the wondrous AMD processor itself? No. It's a fine beasty in and of itself, primarily due to it's cache. Sadly the support chip manufacturers (Via, Ali, etc.) have a serious uphill learning curve to overcome. So if you want to say use 3D Gaming glasses, TV cards, many peripherals, the AMD's are problematic thanks to these people. Huh? You grunt. What does this fool pretend to know? The clock timer problem with motherboards using Via, Ali, etc. causes both DMA and video problems. (Linux complains about it if you enable debugging in the logs). TV cards will not work as they must perform DMA push transfers, which are upset by the clock timer bug. This same sporadic timing causes flashing when using 3D glasses and NVIDIA's wonderful drivers. Both problems go away when the same hardware is transferred to P4/Intel boards. Low latency audio cards are also affected, as are WinModems (heh, heh, heh... Winmodems are EVIL!) Similarly Creative and other manufacturers have also had to issue workarounds for identical problems. Professional level audio software producers (such as Native Instruments, etc.) also caution users to stay away from the AMD processors for the same reasons. Too bad, because this is really NOT AMD's fault. (Though I'd like to see AMD mimic Intel's thermal protection circuitry, which is sadly lacking on their CPU's.). I clicked my heels together and awoke back in Intel Land, sigh. Though I'm still rooting for AMD, things are still not ready for prime time. My $.02, and worth every penny! -JMS Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] AMD system question
|-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Lyvim Xaphir |Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 2:17 PM |To: NewbieMandrake-List |Subject: RE: [newbie] AMD system question | | |I say to P4 advocates, ignore |the smoke and mirrors and look at the man behind the curtain; |click your heels together three times and go home to Athlon. | I've been to OZ thank you. The AMD's wicked witch drove me back to P4's. What am I talking about? Surely not the wondrous AMD processor itself? No. It's a fine beasty in and of itself, primarily due to it's cache. Sadly the support chip manufacturers (Via, Ali, etc.) have a serious uphill learning curve to overcome. So if you want to say use 3D Gaming glasses, TV cards, many peripherals, the AMD's are problematic thanks to these people. Huh? You grunt. What does this fool pretend to know? The clock timer problem with motherboards using Via, Ali, etc. causes both DMA and video problems. (Linux complains about it if you enable debugging in the logs). TV cards will not work as they must perform DMA push transfers, which are upset by the clock timer bug. This same sporadic timing causes flashing when using 3D glasses and NVIDIA's wonderful drivers. Both problems go away when the same hardware is transferred to P4/Intel boards. Low latency audio cards are also affected, as are WinModems (heh, heh, heh... Winmodems are EVIL!) Similarly Creative and other manufacturers have also had to issue workarounds for identical problems. Professional level audio software producers (such as Native Instruments, etc.) also caution users to stay away from the AMD processors for the same reasons. Too bad, because this is really NOT AMD's fault. (Though I'd like to see AMD mimic Intel's thermal protection circuitry, which is sadly lacking on their CPU's.). I clicked my heels together and awoke back in Intel Land, sigh. Though I'm still rooting for AMD, things are still not ready for prime time. My $.02, and worth every penny! -JMS Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] AMD system question
On Thu, 2002-04-18 at 05:10, Baka Attila Tamás wrote: Dear Tony, Thank you for your answer. I'm glad to hear you had no problems. Still I'd like to know if anyone used the motherboard I described BAT First: Never, ever buy a motherboard without researching motherboards on the net. I never buy a mobo that is not in a roundup review. Mobos are not like saltine crackers; you need to research before you buy. It's the single most important investment you will make in your box. There are several salient hardware sites to consider when you are looking for mainboard information. Some are amateurs, some are more professional. Be careful who you listen to; watch how they write; if it's bad writing, chances are the review will be amateurish and probably means that you are on a thumbsucker site. Absolutely ignore individual mainboard reviews; they are completely useless unless you are just interested in specific mainboard info AFTER having decided on a mainboard from a roundup review. I've been tracking mobos for a while and unfortunately I've never seen your particular brandname (FastFame8VTAA). As I said before, my rule of thumb is that if I can't get a mainboard to appear in a ROUNDUP (a roundup is a comparison of a group of mobos to each other) review of a particular mainboard, I don't even look at it. It's not worth the risk. Roundup reviews are rare. It's hard to find sites that have them. It's even harder to find *good* roundup reviews. There's a good reason for this, and it's money. It's extremely tough, time consuming, and costly to bring together that much hardware at one time without the help of the manufacturers, or a bank account set aside for that reason. That's why you will find sites like Sharkyextreme (which used to be a good site) crawling with useless single mobo reviews. If a veteran site like Sharky finds it difficult to support roundup reviews, you can bet startup sites just find it VERY tough to support decent roundup reviews. Some veteran sites found that they could not compete with the thorough, complete, and more professional evaluations by Tomshardware. Anandtech is another veteran site that attempts a thorough treatment of roundup reviews, keeping pace with Dr Tom as best they can. A good example of this is a recent roundup review of athlon mainboards based on the via kt266a: http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.html?i=1578p=22 For another thorough treatment of the latest KT266A based Athlon mobos is on Tomshardware at this URL: http://www6.tomshardware.com/mainboard/01q4/011126/index.html One last item. Your first consideration with regard to benchmarks should be OpenGl benches; i.e., Quake 3 Arena benches. The reason is that no matter what your final purpose for the machine, there is nothing that shows the intrinsic value and power of the fpu, memory, and mainboard subsystems like a 3d world simulation test. The power of the CPU/mobo/memory team becomes rapidly and starkly apparent. With these tests, it is easy to see that the Athlon cpus have much more value per megahertz than the Pentium 4 cpus. The pentium 4's had a bunch of error handling and pipelining circuitry lobotomized out of their cores so that they could be OC's up to the 2.4 gigahertz levels they are currently at. You've made a good choice with your cpu decision, even if you were a bit hasty with the mobo. I say to P4 advocates, ignore the smoke and mirrors and look at the man behind the curtain; click your heels together three times and go home to Athlon. LX -- °°° Kernel 2.4.8-26mdk Mandrake Linux 8.1 Enlightenment 0.16.5Evolution 1.02 Registered Linux User #268899 http://counter.li.org/ °°° Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] AMD system question
Hi there Over the years I've had AMD CPUs from 386 to Athlon and never had any prolems with any OS or hardware caused by the fact I was running AMD. For me there is only one CPU of choice, AMD everytime. Stewart On Thursday 18 Apr 2002 09:05 am, you wrote: Hi Everyone! I'm planning to change my hardware from intel to AMD and I'd like to know your experiences. I've seen an AMD system crash because of motherboard problems and I do not want any problems (AND I do not want to use M$) The configuration I chose is: Motherboard: FastFame8VTAA(VIAKT133A,3SD,UDMA100,AGP4x,AC97Sound,ATX) CPU: AMD K7 ThunderBird 950MHz SocketA RAM: 256 MB SD RAM 133MHz I think it should work fine. Does anyone know about the Motherboard? Also: With an AMD system, which rpm packages should I use? i386, i586, i686 (I guess not) and even if they are not optimised, will they work? Thanx, BAT --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.332 / Virus Database: 186 - Release Date: 2002. 03. 06. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] AMD system question
Yes AMD's work fine... Though it's too bad about the problems bugs with all of the support chipsets... E.G. Via, AliMagik, etc. This is not AMD's fault though. -JMS |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Stewart Taylor |Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 1:19 PM |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: Re: [newbie] AMD system question | | |Hi there | |Over the years I've had AMD CPUs from 386 to Athlon and never |had any prolems |with any OS or hardware caused by the fact I was running AMD. |For me there is |only one CPU of choice, AMD everytime. | |Stewart | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] AMD system question
On Thursday 18 April 2002 04:05 am, Baka Attila Tams wrote: Hi Everyone! I'm planning to change my hardware from intel to AMD and I'd like to know your experiences. I've seen an AMD system crash because of motherboard problems and I do not want any problems (AND I do not want to use M$) The configuration I chose is: Motherboard: FastFame8VTAA(VIAKT133A,3SD,UDMA100,AGP4x,AC97Sound,ATX) CPU: AMD K7 ThunderBird 950MHz SocketA RAM: 256 MB SD RAM 133MHz I think it should work fine. Does anyone know about the Motherboard? Also: With an AMD system, which rpm packages should I use? i386, i586, i686 (I guess not) and even if they are not optimised, will they work? Thanx, BAT BAT: There was a poll several months ago at the Mandrake Forum to determine which processors Mandrakers were using. Over 4200 persons responded; over 62 per cent used AMD processors. You can see the detailed results here: http://www.mandrakeforum.com/pollBooth.php?op=resultspollID=21mode=order=thold= FWIW, the last time that I used an Intel CPU at home was back in 386 days. At work, though, it's been Intel. About the only difference that I ever noted was running AutoCAD, where the Intels did do a better job with floating point computations that was only apparent when doing solid model displays. That difference may have disappeared with the latest Athlon CPUs. The Thunderbird can run any level code from 386 on up -- no problem. According to what I've read on this list, there isn't much advantage to using the 686 compiles. Sorry, but I am not familiar with the motherboard you mention. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] AMD system question
I've been running nothing but AMD for years now and I've had no problems with it and Linux. Any set of RPMs seems to work fine and without problems. Don't know about the board specifically but I've been using that chipset and it works fine. James I'm planning to change my hardware from intel to AMD and I'd like to know your experiences. I've seen an AMD system crash because of motherboard problems and I do not want any problems (AND I do not want to use M$) The configuration I chose is: Motherboard: FastFame8VTAA(VIAKT133A,3SD,UDMA100,AGP4x,AC97Sound,ATX) CPU: AMD K7 ThunderBird 950MHz SocketA RAM: 256 MB SD RAM 133MHz I think it should work fine. Does anyone know about the Motherboard? Also: With an AMD system, which rpm packages should I use? i386, i586, i686 (I guess not) and even if they are not optimised, will they work? Thanx, BAT --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.332 / Virus Database: 186 - Release Date: 2002. 03. 06. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] AMD system question
I have _always_ used AMD CPUs. Couldn't be happier. Miark On Thu, 18 Apr 2002 12:55:24 -0700 James Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been running nothing but AMD for years now and I've had no problems with it and Linux. Any set of RPMs seems to work fine and without problems. Don't know about the board specifically but I've been using that chipset and it works fine. James I'm planning to change my hardware from intel to AMD and I'd like to know your experiences. I've seen an AMD system crash because of motherboard problems and I do not want any problems (AND I do not want to use M$) The configuration I chose is: Motherboard: FastFame8VTAA(VIAKT133A,3SD,UDMA100,AGP4x,AC97Sound,ATX) CPU: AMD K7 ThunderBird 950MHz SocketA RAM: 256 MB SD RAM 133MHz I think it should work fine. Does anyone know about the Motherboard? Also: With an AMD system, which rpm packages should I use? i386, i586, i686 (I guess not) and even if they are not optimised, will they work? Thanx, BAT --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.332 / Virus Database: 186 - Release Date: 2002. 03. 06. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] AMD system question
Heh, drop a BT8x8 tuner it in, or many other Bus Mastering controllers and it will bite you. Unfortunately I found this out the hard way on 6 different systems I own. The famous clock timer problem screws up DMA transfers on Via, AliMagik chipsets. Abit, Asus, Gigabyte are all plagued by this... -JMS |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tony S. Sykes |Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 5:02 AM |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: RE: [newbie] AMD system question | | |I use an Asus board with amd(xp 1600), no probs, I have always |used amd chips for last 5 years, last 2 on linux, and never |had a problem, with several motherboards, abit, asus, gigabyte |running amd various flavours. | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] AMD system question
I have a Systemax AMD XP 1700+ (Gigabyte MoBo, 512MB PC2100 RAM) and so far
have had no problems that can blamed on it. It's owner can be blame quite a
bit however. 8-{
I've made some dumb mistakes but the board has been very nice. I do have to
say the on-board sound sux. It's weak and lack luster. I'd spring for an
older Sound Blaster Live Value PCI card if I were you. I don't know how
hard they are to get in Hungary though. Anyhoo, that's my experience so
far.
- Original Message -
From: Baka Attila Tams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 4:05 AM
Subject: [newbie] AMD system question
Hi Everyone!
I'm planning to change my hardware from intel to AMD and I'd like to know
your experiences. I've seen an AMD system crash because of motherboard
problems and I do not want any problems (AND I do not want to use M$)
The configuration I chose is:
Motherboard: FastFame8VTAA(VIAKT133A,3SD,UDMA100,AGP4x,AC97Sound,ATX)
CPU: AMD K7 ThunderBird 950MHz SocketA
RAM: 256 MB SD RAM 133MHz
I think it should work fine. Does anyone know about the Motherboard?
Also: With an AMD system, which rpm packages should I use? i386, i586,
i686
(I guess not) and even if they are not optimised, will they work?
Thanx,
BAT
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Re: [newbie] AMD CPU bug
any ideas which version? On Thursday 24 January 2002 00:07, you spoke unto me thusly: AMD XP cpu's are not affected from this bug. I heard that the problem is fixed at some stepping version of thunderbird. -- I don't know who said that, but I usually credit Shakespeare. That guy said damn near everything. -me shane registered linux user #101606 @ http://counter.li.org/ http://www.mystic-light.net/personal/ Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 http://dmoz.org cause humans do it better! Link different. Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] AMD CPU bug
dunno, but I have been using a AthlonXP1800 with an Nvidia AGP card for ages now, (3 months.) and its been fine and VERY stable for me... XP is in fact a new CPU,, its not a thunderbird core like the 1.4 athlon.. (I think the new one might be called palimino,, can't remember for sure, just know its not a t'bird.) having said that, I don't in fact know if they have the AGP prob or not, just that I haven't seen the problem myself.. rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of shane Sent: Thursday, 24 January 2002 12:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] AMD CPU bug On Wednesday 23 January 2002 15:29, you spoke unto me thusly: from what i read, it only affects machines which use AGP. and whose kernals are compiled to pentium or better type cpu's. the bug occurs becoz the athlon / duron processors have a bug when dealing with extended paging in conjunction with AGP. You can read more about it as well as find a quick fix to the problem here: http://www.gentoo.org/ Sorry if this is a stupid question, but would this affect an XP1800? actually, a good question yes i think it would, all the 500 (i think) and higher cpus are duron/athlon. i think that the xp is a naming convention only and is not actually a different processor. this is only my understanding though, i haven't followed hardware too close in the last year or so... does anyone else know if the xp cpus are affected? -- If Microsoft is innovative in any area, it is in creating new forms of intimidation. - Ralph Nader shane registered linux user #101606 @ http://counter.li.org/ http://www.mystic-light.net/personal/ Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 http://dmoz.org cause humans do it better! Link different. Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] AMD CPU bug
Here's more than you probably want to know (and more than I understand) on this issue - from a linux distribution site (gentoo), AMD and a kernel developer. Bottom line: Seems like a problem. There is a fix. The fix may result in a performance hit (and I have an Athlon XP 1700!). The kernel folks are working on it! Terry Smith Cape Cod USA (Read them in the order pasted in). http://lwn.net/2002/0124/kernel.php3 (read the memory paging section first as it has some context) http://lwn.net/2002/0124/a/athlon-agp-problem.php3 http://www.gentoo.org/ On Wed, 2002-01-23 at 23:47, shane wrote: On Wednesday 23 January 2002 15:29, you spoke unto me thusly: from what i read, it only affects machines which use AGP. and whose kernals are compiled to pentium or better type cpu's. the bug occurs becoz the athlon / duron processors have a bug when dealing with extended paging in conjunction with AGP. You can read more about it as well as find a quick fix to the problem here: http://www.gentoo.org/ Sorry if this is a stupid question, but would this affect an XP1800? actually, a good question yes i think it would, all the 500 (i think) and higher cpus are duron/athlon. i think that the xp is a naming convention only and is not actually a different processor. this is only my understanding though, i haven't followed hardware too close in the last year or so... does anyone else know if the xp cpus are affected? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] AMD CPU bug
On Tue, 22 Jan 2002, Mario Michael da Costa wrote: shane wrote: 2.4.18 huh? and here i just did 2.4.17 today... ;-) On Monday 21 January 2002 11:25, you spoke unto me thusly: The bug only effects 2.4 kernels and they will be fixed automatically with 2.4.18 kernels hopefully. It has been known for windoze 2k and patched for more than 1 year. from what i read, it only affects machines which use AGP. and whose kernals are compiled to pentium or better type cpu's. the bug occurs becoz the athlon / duron processors have a bug when dealing with extended paging in conjunction with AGP. You can read more about it as well as find a quick fix to the problem here: http://www.gentoo.org/ Sorry if this is a stupid question, but would this affect an XP1800? Thank You, Regards, mario peace, Rog registered linux user #190719 ICQ #56469198 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] AMD CPU bug
On Wednesday 23 January 2002 15:29, you spoke unto me thusly: from what i read, it only affects machines which use AGP. and whose kernals are compiled to pentium or better type cpu's. the bug occurs becoz the athlon / duron processors have a bug when dealing with extended paging in conjunction with AGP. You can read more about it as well as find a quick fix to the problem here: http://www.gentoo.org/ Sorry if this is a stupid question, but would this affect an XP1800? actually, a good question yes i think it would, all the 500 (i think) and higher cpus are duron/athlon. i think that the xp is a naming convention only and is not actually a different processor. this is only my understanding though, i haven't followed hardware too close in the last year or so... does anyone else know if the xp cpus are affected? -- If Microsoft is innovative in any area, it is in creating new forms of intimidation. - Ralph Nader shane registered linux user #101606 @ http://counter.li.org/ http://www.mystic-light.net/personal/ Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 http://dmoz.org cause humans do it better! Link different. Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] AMD CPU bug
AMD XP cpu's are not affected from this bug. I heard that the problem is fixed at some stepping version of thunderbird. Regards, Kursad - Original Message - From: shane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 6:47 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] AMD CPU bug On Wednesday 23 January 2002 15:29, you spoke unto me thusly: from what i read, it only affects machines which use AGP. and whose kernals are compiled to pentium or better type cpu's. the bug occurs becoz the athlon / duron processors have a bug when dealing with extended paging in conjunction with AGP. You can read more about it as well as find a quick fix to the problem here: http://www.gentoo.org/ Sorry if this is a stupid question, but would this affect an XP1800? actually, a good question yes i think it would, all the 500 (i think) and higher cpus are duron/athlon. i think that the xp is a naming convention only and is not actually a different processor. this is only my understanding though, i haven't followed hardware too close in the last year or so... does anyone else know if the xp cpus are affected? -- If Microsoft is innovative in any area, it is in creating new forms of intimidation. - Ralph Nader shane registered linux user #101606 @ http://counter.li.org/ http://www.mystic-light.net/personal/ Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 http://dmoz.org cause humans do it better! Link different. Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] AMD CPU bug
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/3/23749.html anyone know anything about this? i have not personally had more than 2 crashes with mandrake since i started using it with 7.1, and i am on an athelon, but the news makes it sound like only _some_ cpus are affected. if you use the fix and are not affected are you taking a performance hit for nothing? -- The universe is a figment of its own imagination. shane registered linux user #101606 @ http://counter.li.org/ http://www.mystic-light.net/personal/ Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 http://dmoz.org cause humans do it better! Link different. Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] AMD CPU bug
The bug only effects 2.4 kernels and they will be fixed automatically with 2.4.18 kernels hopefully. It has been known for windoze 2k and patched for more than 1 year. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of shane Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 8:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] AMD CPU bug http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/3/23749.html anyone know anything about this? i have not personally had more than 2 crashes with mandrake since i started using it with 7.1, and i am on an athelon, but the news makes it sound like only _some_ cpus are affected. if you use the fix and are not affected are you taking a performance hit for nothing? -- The universe is a figment of its own imagination. shane registered linux user #101606 @ http://counter.li.org/ http://www.mystic-light.net/personal/ Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 http://dmoz.org cause humans do it better! Link different. Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] AMD CPU bug
2.4.18 huh? and here i just did 2.4.17 today... ;-) On Monday 21 January 2002 11:25, you spoke unto me thusly: The bug only effects 2.4 kernels and they will be fixed automatically with 2.4.18 kernels hopefully. It has been known for windoze 2k and patched for more than 1 year. -- One of the surest signs of intelligent in outer space is that it hasn't contacted us yet. shane registered linux user #101606 @ http://counter.li.org/ http://www.mystic-light.net/personal/ Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 http://dmoz.org cause humans do it better! Link different. Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] AMD Duron 850 Vs AMD T-Bird 850
What's the difference between the DURON and the T-BIRD. Both are 850 MHz, both are of course AMD. I went to buy a AMD T-BIRD 850, but ended up getting a AMD DURON 850. I called back to the place asking if I could actually swap the two CPUs and get the one I wanted and thought I was getting. I was charged for the DURON. The T-BIRD is only $25 more then the DURON I got. Upon calling into the store, the guy who answered pretty much went and tried to sell me on a faster more powerful CPU. Now this machine is the first machine that I've had a AMD chip in. I've always had Intel, and I know a lot about them. AMD on the other hand is a different story. I know very little about them other then they are powerful and are considerably less expensive then the Intel chips of comparable power. So what's the difference between the DURON and the T-BIRD. Should I go in there and bump heads to get my T-BIRD 850? Or just live with the DURON? The machine previous to this one was a PII 400. The machine doesn't seem much faster, except accessing those drives on that Promise control is faster then my other motherboard. I figured somebody on the lists would know and could fill me in! Any help is always appreciated! Thanks! tdh -- T. Holmes Unixtechs.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] Real Men use Vi.
[newbie] AMD Chips and Linux
I noticed on the AMD web site there are drivers to make Win2K work with an AMD based board - AGP, EIDE, ChipSet, etc... Are such drivers needed for Mandrake 7.2? The new AMD 761 chip set just came out, for the on chip cache vs L2 cache CPU's. That is the type of board I am thinking to get... since my current favorite SuperMicro's latest board (Intel 815 based) only has two PCI slots... they dumped the 5 slot version. I need three PCI slots min for: sound, ethernet, and SCSI. Thanks Michael
Re: [newbie] AMD 500 CPUs???
Bill Hudspeth wrote: Sevatio Octavio wrote: Yes, I have a AMD 500Mhz It appears to be running fine. Why do you ask? I ask because I anticipate having an AMD 500 MHz board delivered tomorrow. I was hoping, at the time, that I had not made a mistake and might have to exchange it for an Intel. never exchange an amd motherboard and processor for an intel silly :) I've now had a lot of gracious assurance that it is a great chip. Thank you all. Bill Seve Original Message On 7/29/00, 4:21:55 AM, Hellmut [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding Re: [newbie] AMD 500 CPUs???: Hi Bill. I'm very close to it, I have an AMD K6-2 450 Mhz and Mandrake runs just fine. Has anyone out there had a successful Mandrake operating on an AMD 500 CPU? TIA Bill -- , (o o) +--oOOO--(_)---+ | | |H E L L M U T | | | | www.fegefeuer-webzine.de | | | +-0OOO-+ | _ | _ | | | | | | | | | ooO Ooo
Re: [newbie] AMD 500 CPUs???
Bill Hudspeth wrote: Has anyone out there had a successful Mandrake operating on an AMD 500 CPU? TIA Bill AMD K6-2/500 196Mb FICMB w/ 1024K Cache. Perfect. Currently trying to set up diskless boot on another system from it. __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com
RE: [newbie] AMD 500 CPUs???
I've AMD K6-2 450 and mandrake 7.1 runs perfectly. It's great!!! -Mensaje original- De: Dacia and AzureRose [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Enviado el: sábado, 29 de julio de 2000 21:16 Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Asunto: Re: [newbie] AMD 500 CPUs??? AMD 500 what? K5, K6, K6-2, K6-3, Athlon? My box has an AMD K6-3 400 and linux runs great on it. Dacia --- Bill Hudspeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone out there had a successful Mandrake operating on an AMD 500 CPU? TIA Bill __ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/
Re: [newbie] AMD 500 CPUs???
Yes, everything seemed to have worked out fine for me. id you do automatic or custom install? - Original Message - From: Bill Hudspeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 8:54 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] AMD 500 CPUs??? Has anyone out there had a successful Mandrake operating on an AMD 500 CPU? TIA Bill
Re: [newbie] AMD 500 CPUs???
I have linux 7.1 running flawlessly on a amd k6-2/500 . I think this thing loves this cpu. Bill Hudspeth wrote: Has anyone out there had a successful Mandrake operating on an AMD 500 CPU? TIA Bill -- Sincerly, Jonathan Spearman http://www.thecityweb.com S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [newbie] AMD 500 CPUs???
Yes, I have a AMD 500Mhz It appears to be running fine. Why do you ask? Seve Original Message On 7/29/00, 4:21:55 AM, Hellmut [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding Re: [newbie] AMD 500 CPUs???: Hi Bill. I'm very close to it, I have an AMD K6-2 450 Mhz and Mandrake runs just fine. Has anyone out there had a successful Mandrake operating on an AMD 500 CPU? TIA Bill -- , (o o) +--oOOO--(_)---+ | | |H E L L M U T | | | | www.fegefeuer-webzine.de | | | +-0OOO-+ | _ | _ | | | | | | | | | ooO Ooo
Re: [newbie] AMD 500 CPUs???
Dan LaBine wrote: Bill Hudspeth wrote: Has anyone out there had a successful Mandrake operating on an AMD 500 CPU? TIA Bill Bill; Would 3 Athlon K7-750's and one 850 qualify ? These CPU's are SMOKIN' !! Are you having problems with your install?? Say it isn't so !! If you are, get back to me with more details. Unlike the government, we really are here to help ! Grin, Grin! Dan LaBine Dan: That's obscene! No, I'm waiting for my AMD on motherboard to arrive on Monday. Mandrake is already installed but not completely configured. In fact, I am really impressed with the install - pretty reasonable - I'd say. I will keep your address handy - thanks Dan. Best, Bill
Re: [newbie] AMD 500 CPUs???
Bill Hudspeth wrote: Has anyone out there had a successful Mandrake operating on an AMD 500 CPU? TIA Bill Hi Bill. I'm close to that. I've got an AMD K6-III @ 475, and its fine... -- /\ DarkLord \/
Re: [newbie] AMD 500 CPUs???
Bill Hudspeth wrote: Has anyone out there had a successful Mandrake operating on an AMD 500 CPU? TIA Bill I've been running Mandrake 7.1 on a K6-2/500 since about a week after the .iso's were posted. The only issue I have with it is that it insists that the CPU is an i586, while my Cyrix M2/300 properly registers as an i686. I'm assuming i686 is supposed to mean Pentium/MMX equivalent as opposed to Pentium/NoMMX. Other than that, things were fine here once I got the cards+ file fixed to configure XF86.
Re: [newbie] AMD 500 CPUs???
AMD 500 what? K5, K6, K6-2, K6-3, Athlon? My box has an AMD K6-3 400 and linux runs great on it. Dacia --- Bill Hudspeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone out there had a successful Mandrake operating on an AMD 500 CPU? TIA Bill __ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/
Re: [newbie] AMD 500 CPUs???
Can I ask why the question? I just ordered one. mlr52 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Hudspeth wrote: Has anyone out there had a successful Mandrake operating on an AMD 500 CPU? TIA Bill
Re: [newbie] AMD 500 CPUs???
not on a 500 but i use a amd 600 and the only little problem i had was the curser was a white box but a little mod to a config file and that was fixed
Re: [newbie] AMD 500 CPUs???
Bill Hudspeth wrote: Has anyone out there had a successful Mandrake operating on an AMD 500 CPU? TIA Bill Bill: Yes. I did a motherboard/CPU upgrade in June. (TMC A15VG/AMD K6-2-500/64 mb PC100/10.0 gb Maxtor [Win98SE]/6.4 gb Fujitsu [Linux]/Matrox G200/Zoom 2919). I was running Linux Mandrake 7.0 then. Prior to conversion, I ran fdisk/MBR -- I'm still very much a Linux newbie. Stuck in new board and CPU. Everything ran fine. The neatest part was when I booted to the Mandrake CD (I wasn't sure that I hadn't blown the old install away) -- the whole deal took about a minute. About the only glitch was that I had replaced my old ISA sound card with a Creative PCI card, and there was a minor hassle getting Linux to recognize it. Last weekend I installed 7.1. I chose the upgrade -- that took about 5 hours! So far, so good. But I'm gonna learn more about making backups and Linux configuration before the next upgrade. So far as I know, the AMD K6-3 CPU's work, too. -- Carroll Grigsby
Re: [newbie] AMD 500 CPUs???
Has anyone out there had a successful Mandrake operating on an AMD 500 CPU? TIA Bill
Re: [newbie] AMD 500 CPUs???
Bill Hudspeth wrote: Has anyone out there had a successful Mandrake operating on an AMD 500 CPU? TIA Bill Bill; Would 3 Athlon K7-750's and one 850 qualify ? These CPU's are SMOKIN' !! Are you having problems with your install?? Say it isn't so !! If you are, get back to me with more details. Unlike the government, we really are here to help ! Grin, Grin! Dan LaBine
Re: [newbie] AMD 500 CPUs???
Hello Bill, I do have a mandrake with kernel 2.2.15 on an AMD 550. :) its working fine. Though in this kernel the k7 processors are not yet supported. I was told that they will be supported from kernel 2.3. onwards. But I don't have that version yet. That is why in the processor types at the compliation of the kernel i have chosen Pentium Pro. And it works fine with that. Could you please send me some confirmation to this letter because I think that they do not arrive at the mailing-list. TIA Gabor On Tue, 25 Jul 2000, Bill Hudspeth wrote: Has anyone out there had a successful Mandrake operating on an AMD 500 CPU? TIA Bill
Re: [newbie] AMD Athlon
Quoting Carl Kehley [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi What size is your swapfile and is it activated? Anybody have any ideas on this one? I just built a new system with a K-7 700, 128mb of ram, Seagate ATA66 hdd, and Diamond Stealth III video card. I installed Mandrake 7.02, got the installer to recognize all the memory, and everything seems to work pretty well. One question---why is the speed being recognized as 696.2 bogomips? Seems awfully slow to me. Carl Kehley -n-i-c-.-f-i Internet -ilman kuluja! Liity heti (http://www.nic.fi/)
Re: [newbie] AMD Athlon
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Carl Kehley [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi What size is your swapfile and is it activated? Anybody have any ideas on this one? I just built a new system with a K-7 700, 128mb of ram, Seagate ATA66 hdd, and Diamond Stealth III video card. I installed Mandrake 7.02, got the installer to recognize all the memory, and everything seems to work pretty well. One question---why is the speed being recognized as 696.2 bogomips? Seems awfully slow to me. Carl Kehley -n-i-c-.-f-i Internet -ilman kuluja! Liity heti (http://www.nic.fi/) The swap file is 250mb.
Re: [newbie] AMD Athlon
On Wed, 12 Apr 2000, you wrote: Anybody have any ideas on this one? I just built a new system with a K-7 700, 128mb of ram, Seagate ATA66 hdd, and Diamond Stealth III video card. I installed Mandrake 7.02, got the installer to recognize all the memory, and everything seems to work pretty well. One question---why is the speed being recognized as 696.2 bogomips? Seems awfully slow to me. Carl Kehley Carl, BogoMips are calculated for AMD athlons by using clock * 1 -- Linux Tests http://www.linuxtests.org
[newbie] AMD Athlon
Anybody have any ideas on this one? I just built a new system with a K-7 700, 128mb of ram, Seagate ATA66 hdd, and Diamond Stealth III video card. I installed Mandrake 7.02, got the installer to recognize all the memory, and everything seems to work pretty well. One question---why is the speed being recognized as 696.2 bogomips? Seems awfully slow to me. Carl Kehley
Re: [newbie] amd chip
I would agree, the K6-3 400 also runs well with Linux for me, I have it well greased with the thermal grease, not overclocked, and with a large heat sink. On Mon, 10 Apr 2000, Lance Borden mewed: "Pittman, Merle" wrote: This may be a little off topic, but I thought I'd ask anyway. I have been given an AMD K62 333MHz and MB by a friend. Has anyone had any problems with these CPU's. I have heard rumors about them overheating and having problems (especially with win98). can anyone confirm this, or do you have comments of your own? Thanks. MDP My k6-2 366 is trouble-free, and it seems to like Linux an awful lot. lb -- Sign up for ClickDough and get paid to surf the web. http://secure.clickdough.com/servlets/cr/CRSignup.po?referral_id=kittypuss
RE: [newbie] amd chip
Appollo, not sure of the model. -Original Message- From: Stephen F. Bosch [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 3:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] amd chip "Pittman, Merle" wrote: This may be a little off topic, but I thought I'd ask anyway. I have been given an AMD K62 333MHz and MB by a friend. Has anyone had any problems with these CPU's. I have heard rumors about them overheating and having problems (especially with win98). can anyone confirm this, or do you have comments of your own? Thanks. The K6/2 processors are excellent processors -- some of them got a bad name because they were installed on poor motherboards -- so, what motherboard did he give you? -Stephen-
RE: [newbie] amd chip
Thanks for everyones replies. I'm gonna plug this thing into my spare case and give it a try. -Original Message- From: Vic [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 5:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] amd chip I would agree, the K6-3 400 also runs well with Linux for me, I have it well greased with the thermal grease, not overclocked, and with a large heat sink. On Mon, 10 Apr 2000, Lance Borden mewed: "Pittman, Merle" wrote: This may be a little off topic, but I thought I'd ask anyway. I have been given an AMD K62 333MHz and MB by a friend. Has anyone had any problems with these CPU's. I have heard rumors about them overheating and having problems (especially with win98). can anyone confirm this, or do you have comments of your own? Thanks. MDP My k6-2 366 is trouble-free, and it seems to like Linux an awful lot. lb -- Sign up for ClickDough and get paid to surf the web. http://secure.clickdough.com/servlets/cr/CRSignup.po?referral_id=kittypuss
Re: [newbie] amd chip
I am currently running a 350 amd on my office computer, and it works just fine, in fact, linux has more bogomips on an amd chip compared to that of linux running with the equivalent speed intel processor. )( Jason Carson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.home.net/jaroca ICQ: 35152653 )( - Original Message - From: "Lance Borden" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 5:15 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] amd chip "Pittman, Merle" wrote: This may be a little off topic, but I thought I'd ask anyway. I have been given an AMD K62 333MHz and MB by a friend. Has anyone had any problems with these CPU's. I have heard rumors about them overheating and having problems (especially with win98). can anyone confirm this, or do you have comments of your own? Thanks. MDP My k6-2 366 is trouble-free, and it seems to like Linux an awful lot. lb
Re: [newbie] amd chip
oh yeah, my amd 475 runs fine when overclocked to 500 on linux, but crashes on windows )( Jason Carson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.home.net/jaroca ICQ: 35152653 )( - Original Message - From: "Lance Borden" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 5:15 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] amd chip "Pittman, Merle" wrote: This may be a little off topic, but I thought I'd ask anyway. I have been given an AMD K62 333MHz and MB by a friend. Has anyone had any problems with these CPU's. I have heard rumors about them overheating and having problems (especially with win98). can anyone confirm this, or do you have comments of your own? Thanks. MDP My k6-2 366 is trouble-free, and it seems to like Linux an awful lot. lb
Re: [newbie] amd chip
I also currently have a K6-2 350 with 96mb. How much of an increase would I gain putting in a K6-2 500? Roger mark willenbring wrote: I thought it was a AMD 350 or greater. It had a problem in Win 95 because the chip was too fast for the OS - image that! 98 does not have this problem. Also just buy a nice fan to protect your chip and to make it run better. The faster the chip the hotter it runs. --- "Pittman, Merle" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This may be a little off topic, but I thought I'd ask anyway. I have been given an AMD K62 333MHz and MB by a friend. Has anyone had any problems with these CPU's. I have heard rumors about them overheating and having problems (especially with win98). can anyone confirm this, or do you have comments of your own? Thanks. MDP __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com -- Roger Bird [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior Accountant i4i 116 Spadina Ave., 5th Floor Toronto, Ontario M5V 2K6 ph 416.504.0141 Ext 206 fx 416.504.1785 http://www.i4i.com
Re: [newbie] amd chip
Overclock it to 400MHz or 450MHz(careful with that one!) first. If the performance still doesn't suit your needs then pick up a 500 (and run it at 550MHz!) [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 04/11/2000 10:31:00 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: (bcc: George Jones/US/ABNAMRO/NL) Subject:Re: [newbie] amd chip I also currently have a K6-2 350 with 96mb. How much of an increase would I gain putting in a K6-2 500? Roger mark willenbring wrote: I thought it was a AMD 350 or greater. It had a problem in Win 95 because the chip was too fast for the OS - image that! 98 does not have this problem. Also just buy a nice fan to protect your chip and to make it run better. The faster the chip the hotter it runs. --- "Pittman, Merle" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This may be a little off topic, but I thought I'd ask anyway. I have been given an AMD K62 333MHz and MB by a friend. Has anyone had any problems with these CPU's. I have heard rumors about them overheating and having problems (especially with win98). can anyone confirm this, or do you have comments of your own? Thanks. MDP __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com -- Roger Bird [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior Accountant i4i 116 Spadina Ave., 5th Floor Toronto, Ontario M5V 2K6 ph 416.504.0141 Ext 206 fx 416.504.1785 http://www.i4i.com
RE: [newbie] amd chip
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RE: [newbie] amd chip
Here you go. http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/flists.php3 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Vic Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 2:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] amd chip Write in to Mandrake themselves and tell them your having trouble with their unsubscribing links, if you have not done that before. On Mon, 10 Apr 2000, Arciniega, Ezio mewed: Who has the link to remove me from this mailing list? This is really starting to get on my nerves... every link I found to remove me has not worked. I know what will work - if I start acting up and cursing... such horror. So, if someone would like to spare me the trouble and the rudeness, I'd be much obliged. -- Sign up for ClickDough and get paid to surf the web. http://secure.clickdough.com/servlets/cr/CRSignup.po?referral_id=kittypuss
Re: [newbie] amd chip
K62-333 can run at 350Mhz (3.5x100) with no problem, raise the voltage to 2.5v to stabalize it. The chip had problems with Win95a and b requiring a patch from Microsoft to solve. Win98 and Linux have no problems with this chip. [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 04/10/2000 03:59:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: (bcc: George Jones/US/ABNAMRO/NL) Subject:[newbie] amd chip This may be a little off topic, but I thought I'd ask anyway. I have been given an AMD K62 333MHz and MB by a friend. Has anyone had any problems with these CPU's. I have heard rumors about them overheating and having problems (especially with win98). can anyone confirm this, or do you have comments of your own? Thanks. MDP
Re: [newbie] amd chip
I thought it was a AMD 350 or greater. It had a problem in Win 95 because the chip was too fast for the OS - image that! 98 does not have this problem. Also just buy a nice fan to protect your chip and to make it run better. The faster the chip the hotter it runs. --- "Pittman, Merle" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This may be a little off topic, but I thought I'd ask anyway. I have been given an AMD K62 333MHz and MB by a friend. Has anyone had any problems with these CPU's. I have heard rumors about them overheating and having problems (especially with win98). can anyone confirm this, or do you have comments of your own? Thanks. MDP __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com
Re: [newbie] amd chip
"Pittman, Merle" wrote: This may be a little off topic, but I thought I'd ask anyway. I have been given an AMD K62 333MHz and MB by a friend. Has anyone had any problems with these CPU's. I have heard rumors about them overheating and having problems (especially with win98). can anyone confirm this, or do you have comments of your own? Thanks. The K6/2 processors are excellent processors -- some of them got a bad name because they were installed on poor motherboards -- so, what motherboard did he give you? -Stephen-
Re: [newbie] amd chip
MDP, I use RH 6.0 and Win98 dual boot on a Packard Bell 955 K6-2 333 system. On board audio and video. 96meg ram. Runs all day, I use it for a gateway/firewall and client. steve Original Message Follows From: "Pittman, Merle" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] amd chip Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 16:21:33 -0230 This may be a little off topic, but I thought I'd ask anyway. I have been given an AMD K62 333MHz and MB by a friend. Has anyone had any problems with these CPU's. I have heard rumors about them overheating and having problems (especially with win98). can anyone confirm this, or do you have comments of your own? Thanks. MDP __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
RE: [newbie] amd chip
Who has the link to remove me from this mailing list? This is really starting to get on my nerves... every link I found to remove me has not worked. I know what will work - if I start acting up and cursing... such horror. So, if someone would like to spare me the trouble and the rudeness, I'd be much obliged.
Re: [newbie] amd chip (are great!)
AMD Chips are GreAt! I have both a k6-3 and a k6-2 (400s)! My original K6 was a piece of junk compared to the k6-2 series! 20% better performance in Quake2, than w/o special 3DNow! Pacth! Works Awesome! The Processor never over heats, EVEN w/ junk heatsinks! runs a full 10 degrees cooler than k6-3, (most of the time!) Also, not that it would matter too much, but the cost of a k6-2 400 is more than HALF the price of a Pentium II! -Julien - Original Message - From: Stephen F. Bosch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 2:17 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] amd chip "Pittman, Merle" wrote: This may be a little off topic, but I thought I'd ask anyway. I have been given an AMD K62 333MHz and MB by a friend. Has anyone had any problems with these CPU's. I have heard rumors about them overheating and having problems (especially with win98). can anyone confirm this, or do you have comments of your own? Thanks. The K6/2 processors are excellent processors -- some of them got a bad name because they were installed on poor motherboards -- so, what motherboard did he give you? -Stephen-
Re: [newbie] amd chip
"Arciniega, Ezio" wrote: Who has the link to remove me from this mailing list? This is really starting to get on my nerves... every link I found to remove me has not worked. I know what will work - if I start acting up and cursing... such horror. So, if someone would like to spare me the trouble and the rudeness, I'd be much obliged. Go to the mailing list page at www.linux-mandrake.com. -Stephen-
[newbie] Amd?
Under what circumstances is it useful to have amd running? I read the man pages but it still is not clear to me whether I need this running on a machine that will be primarily a web server. I generally access this machine to work on it either directly or via appletalk (no windows network accesses). Thanks. Regards, Eric Mings Ph.D.
[newbie] amd question
Can someone please tell me what this means in the syslog and what needs to be done about it? Thanks! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Nov 22 16:53:17 tiger amd[508]: Unknown host: .directory Nov 22 16:53:17 tiger amd[508]: Using NFS version 0, protocol udp on host .directory Regards, Eric Mings Ph.D.
Re: [newbie] amd question
On Mon, 22 Nov 1999, you wrote: Can someone please tell me what this means in the syslog and what needs to be done about it? Thanks! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Nov 22 16:53:17 tiger amd[508]: Unknown host: .directory Nov 22 16:53:17 tiger amd[508]: Using NFS version 0, protocol udp on host .directory Looks like you've got NFS (Network File System???) turned on. If this is a standalone computer or at least you don't want to "share" drives (a la MS Windows, or Novell) you may want to consider turning this feature off. As root, type "setup" at the shell prompt. Select "System Services" and disable nfs and anything else you don't want. To find out what each thing does, hit "f1" when it's highlighted in that list (hint: this works for the old non-gui install as well!) You would be advised to probably turn off rwhois, and any other "r" services (I forget what they all are G) as these pose a potential security hole in your system which COULD (theoretically) be exploited by a hacker if enabled. (Again, speaking hypothetically!) John
[newbie] amd message during startup
Hi. I get the following mesages when I start up: amd forgot to set AF_INET in udp sendmsg. Fix it! NFS: mount program didn't pass remote address! NFS: mount program didn't pass remote address! There's another message about amd during shut down (I think a red "FAILED" comes up). But I haven't noticed any problems. Should I do anything? Thanks. -- Joel VanderWerf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
