Re: [newbie] CDROM fails on detection
On Sunday 26 Oct 2003 10:35 pm, Damian Gatabria wrote: On cooker list, every single release cycle since i'm lurking on it, i see a thread starting about a month before scheduled release date. In this thread someone pleads for more testing/time and to kick the release date a little further into the future. The answer to those posters is always the same: Bah, that was said also in the last cycle, and it went OK, so we don't need another beta. We don't need more time Damian, I'm not expressing an opinion, just exploring. It seems to me that the big question is 'why did this problem only surface so late in the pre-release cycle?'. There must be some connection with the kind of people (their available equipment) who do the earlier stage testing. The next question has to be 'how can a more representative sample of hardware be found during the testing phase?'. Longer time isn't enough, I think, unless we can answer those questions. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM fails on detection
On Monday 27 Oct 2003 7:58 am, Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 26 Oct 2003 10:35 pm, Damian Gatabria wrote: On cooker list, every single release cycle since i'm lurking on it, i see a thread starting about a month before scheduled release date. In this thread someone pleads for more testing/time and to kick the release date a little further into the future. The answer to those posters is always the same: Bah, that was said also in the last cycle, and it went OK, so we don't need another beta. We don't need more time Damian, I'm not expressing an opinion, just exploring. It seems to me that the big question is 'why did this problem only surface so late in the pre-release cycle?'. There must be some connection with the kind of people (their available equipment) who do the earlier stage testing. The next question has to be 'how can a more representative sample of hardware be found during the testing phase?'. Longer time isn't enough, I think, unless we can answer those questions. Anne If the club had been given downloads _before_ the CDs went to the pressing plant Mandrake would have a lot less bother on their hands. (Wouldn't get me anything - bittorrent crashes my LAN hub in about 30 mins.)-: There are never enough testers to test everything, and they *tend* to have top quality hardware. - or in this case maybe just certified Linux compatible CDROM drives because they've been around since it was manditory. Maybe the club should be considered a gamma test? As in This is the final release, unless you folks can shake out a show-stopper in the next two weeks. Of course, human nature being what it is, that might turn into just the final RC. Maybe they could offer a prize for the first person to find a bug that actually stops the presses. (How much money/goodwill are they losing over this one?) -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM fails on detection
On Monday 27 October 2003 01:58 am, Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 26 Oct 2003 10:35 pm, Damian Gatabria wrote: On cooker list, every single release cycle since i'm lurking on it, i see a thread starting about a month before scheduled release date. In this thread someone pleads for more testing/time and to kick the release date a little further into the future. The answer to those posters is always the same: Bah, that was said also in the last cycle, and it went OK, so we don't need another beta. We don't need more time Damian, I'm not expressing an opinion, just exploring. It seems to me that the big question is 'why did this problem only surface so late in the pre-release cycle?'. There must be some connection with the kind of people (their available equipment) who do the earlier stage testing. The next question has to be 'how can a more representative sample of hardware be found during the testing phase?'. Longer time isn't enough, I think, unless we can answer those questions. Anne This may have been caught earlier if someone like me had been more experienced and associated the death of the drives with the OS. I reasoned that since they were OEM drives that the dealer had just recieved a bad batch. Ones with faulty capacitors or something. I did not get truly suspicious until the dealers repair dept. rep indicated that I seemed to be the only one with the problem. That is when I came to the list and asked the question. So, what I am saying is unless someone at Mandrake had tested with a OEM LG CDROM of recent vintage, they would have no way of knowing there was a problem. All All other Brands and CDRWs seem to be ok. Now I know that a OS can fry electronic equipment, before I never would have believed it was possible. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM fails on detection
El mié, 22-10-2003 a las 18:29, HaywireMac escribió: On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 16:05:37 -0500 Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: It's kernel issue, not just Mandrake's. Any distro usin 2.4.22 could mess up junk hardware. Go to kernel.org and look for the various hardware blacklists. Or don't buy junk to run Linux on. So all the people who have lost valuable hardware are just idiots who shouldn't have bought junk to run Linux on. Nice attitude, Tom, thanks for the input. Let's get the ugly out of the way first: I do not like the way you post. You disagree with Tom, (and I do, too) but... well.. never mind. You already know what i'm going to say. Now, about the junk part... When 9.0 was released, it came out with a version of supermount that didn't work on certain drives. Sometimes you would go into /mnt/cdrom, do a `ls` and see all the files... and when you tried to actually use any of then, you were told that the file didn exist... nice one. It turned up that this bug affected low quality drives mostly. So, the attitude around the cooker and expert list was pretty much the same as Tom's. Your fault, you shouldn't buy crappy hardware to begin with , completely ignoring the fact that these drives worked PERFECTLY on 8.2 and prior. (and worked perfectly also if you used any other kernel...) On cooker list, every single release cycle since i'm lurking on it, i see a thread starting about a month before scheduled release date. In this thread someone pleads for more testing/time and to kick the release date a little further into the future. The answer to those posters is always the same: Bah, that was said also in the last cycle, and it went OK, so we don't need another beta. We don't need more time . every single time, i stay quiet and say nothing.. because i know my opinion doesn't matter to them. Every single time i agree with the guy saying they need more time. This kind of sh*t proves them (and me) right. 6 months release cycle? Yeah, right. Then beta testing should start one month after a stable release. We will keep seeing Big Bugs(tm) until something is done about that impossible release rythm. Damian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM fails on detection
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:09:45 -0500 Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: that were mostly all blacklisted by kernel.org. I have yet to find such a blacklist. Got a link? -- HaywireMac ++ ICQ # 279518458 Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ Murphy was an optimist. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM fails on detection
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:05:37 -0500 Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Please note that the problem only seems to be with the CDROM drives, not CD-RW drives. The one I use now as master is a LG CD-RW 52x24x52x drive and it has no problems. HTH That's good to hear, the club forums didn't make that as clear. You are running 9.2 I take it? -- HaywireMac ++ ICQ # 279518458 Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ A dream will always triumph over reality, once it is given the chance. -- Stanislaw Lem Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM fails on detection
On Thursday 23 October 2003 05:34 am, HaywireMac wrote: On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:05:37 -0500 Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Please note that the problem only seems to be with the CDROM drives, not CD-RW drives. The one I use now as master is a LG CD-RW 52x24x52x drive and it has no problems. HTH That's good to hear, the club forums didn't make that as clear. You are running 9.2 I take it? Right, 9.2 on two comps both with LG CDRWs as the main CDROM now. HTH -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM fails on detection
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:43:33 -0500 Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Right, 9.2 on two comps both with LG CDRWs as the main CDROM now. HTH Excellent, load off my mind, thanks. You should post that to the club forums, just so they have the info that CDRW's seem to be okay. http://www.mandrakeclub.com/modules.php?op=modloadname=Splatt_Forumfile=viewtopictopic=12568forum=9start=30 -- HaywireMac ++ ICQ # 279518458 Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ A priest advised Voltaire on his death bed to renounce the devil. Replied Voltaire, This is no time to make new enemies. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM fails on detection
At 07:23 PM 10/22/2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said something remarkably like (but somehow subtly different from): LeRoy Duvall Linux user #258988 OK, this is perhaps a little off-topic, but I am still a newbie.g What does this Linux user # thing mean? -- Kevin B. O'Brien TANSTAAFL [EMAIL PROTECTED] A conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs who has never learned to walk. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt Help fight SPAM. Join CAUCE. http://www.cauce.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM fails on detection
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 October 23, 2003 12:47 pm, Kevin B. O'Brien wrote: At 07:23 PM 10/22/2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said something remarkably like (but somehow subtly different from): LeRoy Duvall Linux user #258988 OK, this is perhaps a little off-topic, but I am still a newbie.g What does this Linux user # thing mean? Click the link in my signature and you'll find out. g Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-18mdk The best security update for Windows that I've found is the installer for Mandrake Linux. Especially the Use Entire Disk option. (-; -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/mCc3G11CaRuZZSIRAklmAJ0Uy0G6UEN02m1L0/v3oMmAogivogCglACV 57vrUtsWyFIhGHY9FyGLXBE= =4vHI -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM fails on detection
On Thursday 23 October 2003 06:47 pm, Kevin B. O'Brien wrote: OK, this is perhaps a little off-topic, but I am still a newbie.g What does this Linux user # thing mean? This # thing on a command line is your root-prompt. From here you can type in commands, somehow like this C:\ thing in another OS. The similarity here is clear : when seeing this prompt you have the power to destroy everything on your harddisk. So use with care in linux. (In the other OS, it doesn't matter, it selfdestructs anyway). If, however, you want to do things from the command-line in linux, you should see the $ sign, not the # . This indicates that you are yourself (in a terminal , try typing whoami). Now you can issue commands, scripts etc.. without the risk of harming anything vital on your system. HTH Kaj Haulrich. -- *This mail was sent from a 100 % Microsoft free computer* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM fails on detection
At 03:08 PM 10/23/2003, Charlie M. said something remarkably like (but somehow subtly different from): -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 October 23, 2003 12:47 pm, Kevin B. O'Brien wrote: At 07:23 PM 10/22/2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said something remarkably like (but somehow subtly different from): LeRoy Duvall Linux user #258988 OK, this is perhaps a little off-topic, but I am still a newbie.g What does this Linux user # thing mean? Click the link in my signature and you'll find out. g Thank you, Charlie. I am now a registered user.g -- Kevin B. O'Brien TANSTAAFL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Q. What do you get when you cross a Mafioso and a deconstructionist? A. Someone who makes you an offer you can't understand. Help fight SPAM. Join CAUCE. http://www.cauce.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM fails on detection
On Thursday 23 October 2003 01:47 pm, Kevin B. O'Brien wrote: At 07:23 PM 10/22/2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said something remarkably like (but somehow subtly different from): LeRoy Duvall Linux user #258988 OK, this is perhaps a little off-topic, but I am still a newbie.g What does this Linux user # thing mean? It is just a way of trying to get a handle on the number of people really using linux OS's. See this for an explanation http://counter.li.org/ HTH Dennis M. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM fails on detection
On Wednesday 22 October 2003 08:11 pm, Carroll Grigsby wrote: On Wednesday 22 October 2003 07:42 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: I had never even heard of LG Electronics before this came up. I haven't been following this all that closely, but it seems that Compaq (for one) _has_ heard of LG, and shipped a whole bunch of them. Until I hear otherwise, God bless Mitsumi. -- cmg So what you are saying is that the Mitsumi line is not made by LG? They make so many rebranded drives for other companies it is hard to know if you are getting an LG in disguise. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM fails on detection
On Thursday 23 October 2003 06:22 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: On Wednesday 22 October 2003 08:11 pm, Carroll Grigsby wrote: On Wednesday 22 October 2003 07:42 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: I had never even heard of LG Electronics before this came up. I haven't been following this all that closely, but it seems that Compaq (for one) _has_ heard of LG, and shipped a whole bunch of them. Until I hear otherwise, God bless Mitsumi. -- cmg So what you are saying is that the Mitsumi line is not made by LG? They make so many rebranded drives for other companies it is hard to know if you are getting an LG in disguise. Dennis: Good point, but this thing is pretty damn old -- I bought it in early '98 at a local computer show from the legendary Two Guys and a Goat company. The drives that are going belly up are of more recent vintage. I expect that the root problem is that some guy at LG figured out a way to save 1.4 cents on each drive. I'll find out when my 9.2 CD's arrive. (Note to self: Start the install well before the local stores close.) -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM fails on detection
On Tuesday 21 October 2003 08:29 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: Wondering if anyone has run into this, I put a brand new (cheap $19.95 US) LG CDROM in the computer, a Gigabyte MB with Athlon 2000 cpu and DDR ram, and as soon as Mandrake harddrake detects it the drive light goes steady on and the drive will not work. At next boot up no light and no response the drive is dead. Took it back for exchange three times and same results. So I stick the old 24X sony CDROM back in and it works fine. I have no idea what is going on. The power supply is rock solid. Could there be a mobo problem? Any ideas? Dennis: There have been some reports on the club Forums about 9.2 killing LG drives and there is also some discussion at cooker. Take a look at the second posting here: http://www.mandrakeclub.com/modules.php?op=modloadname=Splatt_Forumfile=viewtopictopic=12989forum=10 -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM fails on detection
On Wednesday 22 October 2003 09:14 am, Carroll Grigsby wrote: On Tuesday 21 October 2003 08:29 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: Wondering if anyone has run into this, I put a brand new (cheap $19.95 US) LG CDROM in the computer, a Gigabyte MB with Athlon 2000 cpu and DDR ram, and as soon as Mandrake harddrake detects it the drive light goes steady on and the drive will not work. At next boot up no light and no response the drive is dead. Took it back for exchange three times and same results. So I stick the old 24X sony CDROM back in and it works fine. I have no idea what is going on. The power supply is rock solid. Could there be a mobo problem? Any ideas? Dennis: There have been some reports on the club Forums about 9.2 killing LG drives and there is also some discussion at cooker. Take a look at the second posting here: http://www.mandrakeclub.com/modules.php?op=modloadname=Splatt_Forumfile=v iewtopictopic=12989forum=10 -- cmg Thanks, Carroll, it appears that the bottom line is I have fried $40 worth of drives, my cost, and $60 worth of the dealers drives because of a nasty bug in 9.2. Some of the talk is about running 700mb cds in the drive but it only specs for 650mb. I don't think that is the problem because I installed 9.1 on these drives and they were 700mb. Anyway, I am watching to see what drives actually will work and not get fried. Thanks for the info. Makes me feel not so stupid. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM fails on detection
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 11:20:12 -0500 Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Dennis: There have been some reports on the club Forums about 9.2 killing LG drives and there is also some discussion at cooker. Take a look at the second posting here: http://www.mandrakeclub.com/modules.php?op=modloadname=Splatt_Forumfile=v iewtopictopic=12989forum=10 -- cmg Thanks, Carroll, it appears that the bottom line is I have fried $40 worth of drives, my cost, and $60 worth of the dealers drives because of a nasty bug in 9.2. Some of the talk is about running 700mb cds in the drive but it only specs for 650mb. I don't think that is the problem because I installed 9.1 on these drives and they were 700mb. Anyway, I am watching to see what drives actually will work and not get fried. Thanks for the info. Makes me feel not so stupid. Looks like I'll be skipping 9.2... :-( -- HaywireMac ++ ICQ # 279518458 Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ Perhaps the biggest disappointments were the ones you expected anyway. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM fails on detection
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 11:20:12 -0500 Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Dennis: There have been some reports on the club Forums about 9.2 killing LG drives and there is also some discussion at cooker. Take a look at the second posting here: http://www.mandrakeclub.com/modules.php?op=modloadname=Splatt_Forumfile=v iewtopictopic=12989forum=10 -- cmg So, what would be the course of action to deal with this. I am not willing to risk my CDRW, whatever the opinions on the quality of LG. Will Mandrake be issuing a new edition for download that has been tested *not* to hose people's hardware? How can something like this be corrected? -- HaywireMac ++ ICQ # 279518458 Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ Only that in you which is me can hear what I'm saying. -- Baba Ram Dass Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM fails on detection
On Wednesday 22 October 2003 03:37 pm, HaywireMac wrote: Will Mandrake be issuing a new edition for download that has been tested *not* to hose people's hardware? It's kernel issue, not just Mandrake's. Any distro usin 2.4.22 could mess up junk hardware. Go to kernel.org and look for the various hardware blacklists. Or don't buy junk to run Linux on. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM fails on detection
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 16:05:37 -0500 Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: It's kernel issue, not just Mandrake's. Any distro usin 2.4.22 could mess up junk hardware. Go to kernel.org and look for the various hardware blacklists. Or don't buy junk to run Linux on. No probs with 9.1 or this burner *at all* in over 2 years of use. So hold off on the aspersions, eh, old man? -- HaywireMac ++ ICQ # 279518458 Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ Depart not from the path which fate has assigned you. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM fails on detection
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 16:05:37 -0500 Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: It's kernel issue, not just Mandrake's. Any distro usin 2.4.22 could mess up junk hardware. Go to kernel.org and look for the various hardware blacklists. Or don't buy junk to run Linux on. So all the people who have lost valuable hardware are just idiots who shouldn't have bought junk to run Linux on. Nice attitude, Tom, thanks for the input. -- HaywireMac ++ ICQ # 279518458 Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ Arrakis teaches the attitude of the knife - chopping off what's incomplete and saying: Now it's complete because it's ended here. -- Muad'dib, Dune Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM fails on detection
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 11:20:12 -0500 Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dennis: SNIP Anyway, I am watching to see what drives actually will work and not get fried. Thanks for the info. Makes me feel not so stupid. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Plextor rocks. So does Teak Velo. Femme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM fails on detection
On Wednesday 22 October 2003 03:48 pm, Heather/Femme wrote: On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 11:20:12 -0500 Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dennis: SNIP Anyway, I am watching to see what drives actually will work and not get fried. Thanks for the info. Makes me feel not so stupid. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Plextor rocks. So does Teak Velo. Femme Yes, I like Plextor. BUT, when this first came up on the cooker list, the only drives involved were LG CDroms, at $19.95, that were mostly all blacklisted by kernel.org. It's not a widespread problem. Well, other than many Linux users not being aware that not all hardware is suitable for anything but Windoze. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM fails on detection
As a former tech support person for the evil empire I find this thread somewhat interesting. We used to say that software does not break hardware - then we had video card settings breaking monitors. Now we have Linux taking it to a new level LeRoy Duvall Linux user #258988 On Wednesday 22 October 2003 03:48 pm, Heather/Femme wrote: On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 11:20:12 -0500 Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dennis: SNIP Anyway, I am watching to see what drives actually will work and not get fried. Thanks for the info. Makes me feel not so stupid. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Plextor rocks. So does Teak Velo. Femme Yes, I like Plextor. BUT, when this first came up on the cooker list, the only drives involved were LG CDroms, at $19.95, that were mostly all blacklisted by kernel.org. It's not a widespread problem. Well, other than many Linux users not being aware that not all hardware is suitable for anything but Windoze. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM fails on detection
On Wednesday 22 October 2003 07:09 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Wednesday 22 October 2003 03:48 pm, Heather/Femme wrote: On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 11:20:12 -0500 Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dennis: SNIP Anyway, I am watching to see what drives actually will work and not get fried. Thanks for the info. Makes me feel not so stupid. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Plextor rocks. So does Teak Velo. Femme Yes, I like Plextor. BUT, when this first came up on the cooker list, the only drives involved were LG CDroms, at $19.95, that were mostly all blacklisted by kernel.org. It's not a widespread problem. Well, other than many Linux users not being aware that not all hardware is suitable for anything but Windoze. I had never even heard of LG Electronics before this came up. -- /g Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM fails on detection
Greg Meyer wrote: On Wednesday 22 October 2003 07:09 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Wednesday 22 October 2003 03:48 pm, Heather/Femme wrote: On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 11:20:12 -0500 Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dennis: SNIP Anyway, I am watching to see what drives actually will work and not get fried. Thanks for the info. Makes me feel not so stupid. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Plextor rocks. So does Teak Velo. Femme Yes, I like Plextor. BUT, when this first came up on the cooker list, the only drives involved were LG CDroms, at $19.95, that were mostly all blacklisted by kernel.org. It's not a widespread problem. Well, other than many Linux users not being aware that not all hardware is suitable for anything but Windoze. I had never even heard of LG Electronics before this came up. I'm surprised to see problems with LG drives. LG usually produce cheap, robust, OS-independent hardware - in fact they're the only hardware company I've seen mentioning Linux on the box. Sir Robin -- I declare this sentence a performative! Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM fails on detection
On Wednesday 22 October 2003 06:09 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Wednesday 22 October 2003 03:48 pm, Heather/Femme wrote: On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 11:20:12 -0500 Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dennis: SNIP Anyway, I am watching to see what drives actually will work and not get fried. Thanks for the info. Makes me feel not so stupid. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Plextor rocks. So does Teak Velo. Femme Yes, I like Plextor. BUT, when this first came up on the cooker list, the only drives involved were LG CDroms, at $19.95, that were mostly all blacklisted by kernel.org. It's not a widespread problem. Well, other than many Linux users not being aware that not all hardware is suitable for anything but Windoze. Course not all of us monitor kernel.org. I have used the LG CDROMs and CD-RWs for a number of years with no problem. This is the first time it has been a problem. I was suspicious of the drives because they looked like they had cheapened them up even more. All I see locally are Sony, MadDog, and an occasional Pacific Digital. So looks like that leaves a search to insure that others available locally are not made by LG and rebranded. Buyer beware. Ones at CompUSA that appear to be better quality are still only $39.95 US. Good luck everyone. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM fails on detection
On Wednesday 22 October 2003 07:09 pm, robin wrote: Greg Meyer wrote: On Wednesday 22 October 2003 07:09 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Wednesday 22 October 2003 03:48 pm, Heather/Femme wrote: On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 11:20:12 -0500 Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dennis: SNIP Anyway, I am watching to see what drives actually will work and not get fried. Thanks for the info. Makes me feel not so stupid. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Plextor rocks. So does Teak Velo. Femme Yes, I like Plextor. BUT, when this first came up on the cooker list, the only drives involved were LG CDroms, at $19.95, that were mostly all blacklisted by kernel.org. It's not a widespread problem. Well, other than many Linux users not being aware that not all hardware is suitable for anything but Windoze. I had never even heard of LG Electronics before this came up. I'm surprised to see problems with LG drives. LG usually produce cheap, robust, OS-independent hardware - in fact they're the only hardware company I've seen mentioning Linux on the box. Sir Robin Please note that the problem only seems to be with the CDROM drives, not CD-RW drives. The one I use now as master is a LG CD-RW 52x24x52x drive and it has no problems. HTH -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM fails on detection
On Wednesday 22 October 2003 07:42 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: I had never even heard of LG Electronics before this came up. I haven't been following this all that closely, but it seems that Compaq (for one) _has_ heard of LG, and shipped a whole bunch of them. Until I hear otherwise, God bless Mitsumi. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] CDROM fails on detection
Wondering if anyone has run into this, I put a brand new (cheap $19.95 US) LG CDROM in the computer, a Gigabyte MB with Athlon 2000 cpu and DDR ram, and as soon as Mandrake harddrake detects it the drive light goes steady on and the drive will not work. At next boot up no light and no response the drive is dead. Took it back for exchange three times and same results. So I stick the old 24X sony CDROM back in and it works fine. I have no idea what is going on. The power supply is rock solid. Could there be a mobo problem? Any ideas? -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
