Re: [newbie] How to clear autologin
On Thursday 12 February 2004 00:33, Hoyt Bailey wrote: Please bear in mind I dont speak mandrake and linux poorly. What should I do to the /etc/inittab file??? Quite frankly, you don't have to speak Mandrake lingo but it would help if you read the answers you get, better. I posted about 3 answers back in this thread, how you could edit the /etc/inittab file along with some other options. I didn't repeat the process of explaining again, expecting you to have read it. Anyhow here's the part again: . As an extra resort: Boot into failsafe and edit /etc/inittab there's a line there at the beginning that reads: id:5:initdefault: Change the 5 to 3, save the file and reboot. You'll need vi to edit that file or: install the wonderful Midnight Commander (mc) with urpmi mc and then type mc to fire it up. Find the /etct/inittab file and open it for editing using F4 and saving it with F2.It's a clone of the Norton Commander so if you've ever used that (or dosshell or wincommander) you'll feel right at home:) Luck needs to be pushed, . Good luck, HarM -- Registered Linux User #197998 FSF Associate Member #901 ICQ #146191606 Mandrake HowTo's more: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to clear autologin
On Thursday 12 February 2004 01:25, Hoyt Bailey wrote: Hehe, looks you found itforget my grumble, grumble mail on the /etc/innitab issue..sorry;) Thanks I am well acquainted with vi but not mc. Anyway it worked I loged into a text screen issued startx, as me, and was automatically loged into gnome. Took a minute and 24 sec to log out (the problem with gnome). Now how do I get into KDE to reset the autologin mode? If/when youre in init 3 as su/root type init 5 which should offer you a graphical login and an option to choose the windowmanager option. You could try typing startkde but I doubt if it'll work. If you want to have a choice of windowmanagers from the console install Xtart. urpmi xtart. From gnome you should be able to open a control center session too. Open an xterm, and type mcc and you'll be prompted for the password if you aren't root. I'm better acquanted with UNIX, as a user, on a desktop.(1975 version) Luck needs to be pushed, Aint it the truth. A second question. Do you know of any text that explains how mandrake works, I'v looked in amazon and on the site? I'm looking for something mandrake specific. There used to be some tutorial demo's on the mandrake site, mostly 9.0 based. http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/demos/ Take a look at http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/fdoc.php3 for .pdf/html files Beside that, Mandrake is a straightforward linux distrib and most of the solutions I've offered up to now wouldn't be much different on say a Slackware box. That's not counting the Mandrake specific tools or wizards of course. Good luck, HarM -- Registered Linux User #197998 FSF Associate Member #901 ICQ #146191606 Mandrake HowTo's more: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to clear autologin
- Original Message - From: H.J.Bathoorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 06:12 Subject: Re: [newbie] How to clear autologin FYI: I think what happened I received a message posted 2 minutes before one of mine. I wasnt sure if someones clock was off or not and it was the one with edit this file without any parameters then I received the one with the parameters. Sorry for the confusion. Anyway problem solved automatic login removed. Enlightenment removed. Even gnome problem seems to be gone. All's well I think I will stay with run level 3 for a while. Thanks for your help. Regards; Hoyt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to clear autologin
On Thursday 12 February 2004 14:00, Hoyt Bailey wrote: - Original Message - From: H.J.Bathoorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 06:12 Subject: Re: [newbie] How to clear autologin FYI: I think what happened I received a message posted 2 minutes before one of mine. I wasnt sure if someones clock was off or not and it was the one with edit this file without any parameters then I received the one with the parameters. Sorry for the confusion. Anyway problem solved automatic login removed. Enlightenment removed. Even gnome problem seems to be gone. All's well I think I will stay with run level 3 for a while. Thanks for your help. You're welcome:) You could set it to init 5 for the graphical log in but I've always felt it rather daft to start X twice just to get fired up. If there are more users on the box who get the riles seeing a commandline it could be a solution. BTW. Xfce is very neat and fast ..and on top; can be started directly from the commandline as startxfce Have fun, HarM -- Registered Linux User #197998 FSF Associate Member #901 ICQ #146191606 Mandrake HowTo's more: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to clear autologin
- Original Message - From: ben moretti [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 21:15 Subject: Re: [newbie] How to clear autologin i had this too - go to the drak boot utility in your configuration menu and choose your own account from the gui. it should have an option for auto login, which is set to on by default. set that to off and log out - you should be ok then. that's the general gist anyway, it is from memory. the doco is at http://www.mandrakeclub.com/docs/9.2/en/Drakxtools-Guide.html/drakboot.html cheers ben --- Hoyt Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have snip selected KDE. Entered name password and ended up in Enlightenment waited for the minute or so and nothing ever happened (Green screen seperated by horiz lines and nothing else). Rebooted and was again in enlightenment. The question is how can I kill the automatic login,without being loged in? Or is it reinstall? But enlightenment is hosed and thats all I can boot into. There is nothing displayed except a wrist watch, indicating the system is busy but its not doing anything. Regards; Hoyt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to clear autologin
then you need to start your system with init level 3 to avoid X coming up, now on traditional lilo setups there is instant access to a boot prompt, at which you would type: linux init 3 assuming your kernel was called 'linux' with this new fangled 'ooh look its a pretty blue'! i'm not sure, i think if you press esc when you get the list of boot choices you will be able to access a prompt bascule On Wednesday 11 Feb 2004 3:27 pm, Hoyt Bailey wrote: I tried ctl-alt-F1, F2, Delete, Backspace. No response just that ugly green screen with two white bars and a watch. Regards; Hoyt -- Does it worry you that you don't talk any kind of sense? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to clear autologin
On Wednesday 11 February 2004 16:27, Hoyt Bailey wrote: I tried ctl-alt-F1, F2, Delete, Backspace. No response just that ugly green screen with two white bars and a watch. Regards; Hoyt Well that about only leaves the failsafe boot option doesn't it:) If you didn't leave failsafe in the lilo menu; hit ESC and type linux init 1 at the prompt a nd hit enter Once in there you can run mcc (mandrake control center) by typing just that on the command line and see if you can reset the boot options from there OR as somebody else opted: Simply urpme autologin . From there you can type init 5 and (hopefully) go up to a gui login screen. If you want to see what's actually happening do init 3, then login as you and type startx. To kill the screen with the watch hit CTRLALT F1 ( or Backspace instead of F1) and you can see the error messages. From what I've understood from your previous mails your windowmanagers are in a mess. Probably the best solution for that would be to insert the install CD again and then opt for upgrade. It's a short procedure (as everything's already uptodate) which usually repairs the messed up Windowmanagers. Good luck, HarM P/S All commands should be used without the and activated by hitting enter;) -- Registered Linux User #197998 FSF Associate Member #901 ICQ #146191606 Mandrake HowTo's more: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to clear autologin
- Original Message - From: bascule [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 09:47 Subject: Re: [newbie] How to clear autologin then you need to start your system with init level 3 to avoid X coming up, now on traditional lilo setups there is instant access to a boot prompt, at which you would type: linux init 3 assuming your kernel was called 'linux' with this new fangled 'ooh look its a pretty blue'! i'm not sure, i think if you press esc when you get the list of boot choices you will be able to access a prompt bascule On Wednesday 11 Feb 2004 3:27 pm, Hoyt Bailey wrote: I tried ctl-alt-F1, F2, Delete, Backspace. No response just that ugly green screen with two white bars and a watch. Regards; Hoyt -- Does it worry you that you don't talk any kind of sense? Yes it does but I usually consider that no one is paying attention. In the pretty blue screen (wrong shade to be pretty) of the lillo startup screen all esc does is stop the timer, but there are other things. failsafe and several different versions the kernel. The only problem now that I can get root access is what commands do I issue to correct the problem ending with disableing autologin. Regards; Hoyt PS: I learned.(I tried it) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to clear autologin
- Original Message - From: H.J.Bathoorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 09:54 Subject: Re: [newbie] How to clear autologin On Wednesday 11 February 2004 16:27, Hoyt Bailey wrote: I tried ctl-alt-F1, F2, Delete, Backspace. No response just that ugly green screen with two white bars and a watch. Regards; Hoyt Well that about only leaves the failsafe boot option doesn't it:) If you didn't leave failsafe in the lilo menu; hit ESC and type linux init 1 at the prompt a nd hit enter Once in there you can run mcc (mandrake control center) by typing just that on the command line and see if you can reset the boot options from there OR as somebody else opted: Simply urpme autologin . From there you can type init 5 and (hopefully) go up to a gui login screen. If you want to see what's actually happening do init 3, then login as you and type startx. To kill the screen with the watch hit CTRLALT F1 ( or Backspace instead of F1) and you can see the error messages. From what I've understood from your previous mails your windowmanagers are in a mess. Probably the best solution for that would be to insert the install CD again and then opt for upgrade. It's a short procedure (as everything's already uptodate) which usually repairs the messed up Windowmanagers. Good luck, HarM P/S All commands should be used without the and activated by hitting enter;) That sounds like a good plan I will try it this afternoon. Thanks Regards Hoyt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to clear autologin
On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 09:27:03 -0600 Hoyt Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried ctl-alt-F1, F2, Delete, Backspace. No response just that ugly green screen with two white bars and a watch. Regards; Hoyt try booting into failsafe and at the prompt type: init 3 then it'll run a few things and give you a login prompt then you can login as root and do: urpme autologin HTH -- If you use Microsoft Windows you do not have permission to add this address to your address book. If I am in your address book, please remove me. This does not apply to users of MacOS*, Unix, or Linux. Thank you. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to clear autologin
- Original Message - From: H.J.Bathoorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 09:54 Subject: Re: [newbie] How to clear autologin Well that about only leaves the failsafe boot option doesn't it:) If you didn't leave failsafe in the lilo menu; hit ESC and type linux init 1 at the prompt a nd hit enter HB:It is still there. Once in there you can run mcc (mandrake control center) by typing just that on the command line and see if you can reset the boot options from there HB: I couldnt. OR as somebody else opted: Simply urpme autologin . HB:The response is: undnown package autologin. From there you can type init 5 and (hopefully) go up to a gui login screen. HB:Guess which screen. The 'ugly green one' of course. If you want to see what's actually happening do init 3, then login as you and type startx. To kill the screen with the watch hit CTRLALT F1 ( or HB:Blank screen with login prompt. Backspace instead of F1) and you can see the error messages. From what I've understood from your previous mails your windowmanagers are in a mess. HB:Likely true. Probably the best solution for that would be to insert the install CD again and then opt for upgrade. It's a short procedure (as everything's already uptodate) which usually repairs the messed up Windowmanagers. HB:I found module upgrade and used it Good luck, HB:I could use some. Actually I used mine up. The results here were obtained by doing what the previous text suggested. The result was no different than the last time. How do I kill xdm, kdm, or gdm? How do I start them back up? Maybe that will help. Regards; Hoyt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to clear autologin
On Wednesday 11 February 2004 23:03, Hoyt Bailey wrote: snipped... Once in there you can run mcc (mandrake control center) by typing just that on the command line and see if you can reset the boot options from there HB: I couldnt. You have to be root i.e. su to be able to do thatin console it won't prompt fotr the password. You were root weren't you? If it won't run mcc there's something really wrong there. OR as somebody else opted: Simply urpme autologin . HB:The response is: undnown package autologin. so find the right name: rpm qa | grep auto on the commandline. It should be there somewhere on the output of that. Again: you have to be root for urpme! snipped again... The results here were obtained by doing what the previous text suggested. The result was no different than the last time. How do I kill xdm, kdm, or gdm? How do I start them back up? Maybe that will help. By using CTRLALTbackspace and hitting CTRLALTF2 before it fires up the green screen again. As an extra resort: Boot into failsafe and edit /etc/inittab there's a line there at the beginning that reads: id:5:initdefault: Change the 5 to 3, save the file and reboot. You'll need vi to edit that file or: install the wonderful Midnight Commander (mc) with urpmi mc and then type mc to fire it up. Find the /etct/inittab file and open it for editing using F4 and saving it with F2.It's a clone of the Norton Commander so if you've ever used that (or dosshell or wincommander) you'll feel right at home:) Luck needs to be pushed, HarM -- Registered Linux User #197998 FSF Associate Member #901 ICQ #146191606 Mandrake HowTo's more: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to clear autologin
On Wednesday 11 February 2004 23:42, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: rpm qa | grep auto on the commandline. that should've been rpm -qa | grep auto...sorry HarM -- Registered Linux User #197998 FSF Associate Member #901 ICQ #146191606 Mandrake HowTo's more: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to clear autologin
- Original Message - From: H.J.Bathoorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 16:46 Subject: Re: [newbie] How to clear autologin On Wednesday 11 February 2004 23:42, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: rpm qa | grep auto on the commandline. that should've been rpm -qa | grep auto...sorry The complete Command Line and response. [root @localhost root]# rpm -qa | grep auto autofs-4.0.0-0.19mdk autoconf-2.13.19mdk automake-1.4-23.p6.mdk Hope this helps. Regards; Hoyt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to clear autologin
On Thursday 12 February 2004 00:17, Hoyt Bailey wrote: The complete Command Line and response. [root @localhost root]# rpm -qa | grep auto autofs-4.0.0-0.19mdk autoconf-2.13.19mdk automake-1.4-23.p6.mdk Hope this helps. Yep it isn't there, soedit the /etc/inittab file..hang in there!:) I was never very good at this gui stuff anyway. More good luck, HarM -- Registered Linux User #197998 FSF Associate Member #901 ICQ #146191606 Mandrake HowTo's more: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] How to clear autologin
I have myself in a pickle. I set the system to automatically log me in. This was ok, the only problem I was loged into the last session. Now the last time I was loged in was to gnome. So I was in gnome gnome has a logout problem (takes 30 sec to 1 min to get logout panel). I waited untill the login panel came up and selected KDE. Entered name password and ended up in Enlightenment waited for the minute or so and nothing ever happened (Green screen seperated by horiz lines and nothing else). Rebooted and was again in enlightenment. The question is how can I kill the automatic login,without being loged in? Or is it reinstall? Hoyt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to clear autologin
i had this too - go to the drak boot utility in your configuration menu and choose your own account from the gui. it should have an option for auto login, which is set to on by default. set that to off and log out - you should be ok then. that's the general gist anyway, it is from memory. the doco is at http://www.mandrakeclub.com/docs/9.2/en/Drakxtools-Guide.html/drakboot.html cheers ben --- Hoyt Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have myself in a pickle. I set the system to automatically log me in. This was ok, the only problem I was loged into the last session. Now the last time I was loged in was to gnome. So I was in gnome gnome has a logout problem (takes 30 sec to 1 min to get logout panel). I waited untill the login panel came up and selected KDE. Entered name password and ended up in Enlightenment waited for the minute or so and nothing ever happened (Green screen seperated by horiz lines and nothing else). Rebooted and was again in enlightenment. The question is how can I kill the automatic login,without being loged in? Or is it reinstall? Hoyt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com = ben moretti http://www.geocities.com/benmoretti http://greetings.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Greetings Send your love online with Yahoo! Greetings - FREE! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
