Re: [newbie] Wine question

2003-08-16 Thread Poogle

 On Friday 15 August 2003 17:37, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
  Through the years I've noticed that quite a few people on this
  great list dual boots Windows occasionally. I've never had
  Windows on my box - and never will.
 
  But right now I have a problem : My oldest daughter just started
  in college and her math teacher demands her to buy a program
  called *Derive*. It's a math program from Texas Instruments and
  I've visited their website just to find out it's a Windows app
  only - no Unix/Linux version.
 
  Well, my daughters scuttled their preinstalled Windows-crap when
  they bought their computers and are using Linux on a daily basis
  with no problems insofar. So I told them - maybe a little too
  enthusiastic - that Linux can do anything, including running
  Windows applications through an emulator.
 
  So I just installed wine and downloaded the *Derive* program.
  This seems to be a file called *setup.exe*. Then, I typed *wine
  setup.exe* and everything seemed OK until it ask me for a
  *folder* for installation. The screen suggest strange *folders*
  like *c:\programs* etc.. (???) - I don't have such *folders*, so
  I typed : /usr/share/derive (having created that *folder* of
  course. But the program doesn't seem able to find any *folders*
  on my system, no matter what I type.
 
  The man pages for wine do not mention this problem, but I'm
  confident some of you can help me out on this - probably very
  trivial - hiccup.
 
  Thanks in advance
 
  Kaj Haulrich.

you got me curious so I d/l the trial version of Derive, with crossover office 
1.3.5 it crashes with an error message about VBOX, so no go there, but with 
Win4Lin  (with Win98) it installs properly and will open and close the 
included files.
As to whether it will work I can't comment as it's about 30 years since I 
studied maths/statistics so I can't remember enough about the subject  (hangs 
head in shame) to try to work with it.
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Re: [newbie] Wine question

2003-08-16 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Saturday 16 August 2003 11:09 am, Poogle wrote:

snip

 you got me curious so I d/l the trial version of Derive, with
 crossover office 1.3.5 it crashes with an error message about
 VBOX, so no go there, but with Win4Lin  (with Win98) it
 installs properly and will open and close the included files.
 As to whether it will work I can't comment as it's about 30
 years since I studied maths/statistics so I can't remember
 enough about the subject  (hangs head in shame) to try to work
 with it.

/snip

OK Poogle, Frankie and all who helped me on this one : The fact 
is that I don't have a copy of that other OS, in any flavor 
whatsoever. So I tried to run *Derive* from Wine and from 
Crossover - with no success. Win4Lin may be OK, but as far as I 
understand it requires a copy of another OS - right ?

If yes, I think my only option is to somehow get my hands on an 
old, used Windows PC just to run this app. Under no 
circumstances will I tolerate Windows on my *real* computers in 
our home.

I happen to own an old Thinkpad 380 with OS/2 on it, but *Derive* 
won't run under OS/2's emulation of Win3.1 either. Possibly I 
can get a copy of Win98, but I have no clue whatsoever about 
installing it - the Thinkpad can't boot off a CD , so I guess 
it's a dead end too ?

Thanks again, all.

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Re: [newbie] Wine question

2003-08-16 Thread Paul
On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 16:50, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
 I happen to own an old Thinkpad 380 with OS/2 on it, but *Derive* 
 won't run under OS/2's emulation of Win3.1 either. Possibly I 
 can get a copy of Win98, but I have no clue whatsoever about 
 installing it - the Thinkpad can't boot off a CD , so I guess 
 it's a dead end too ?

You might know someone who has W98 running. Create a bootdiskette there,
get the CDROM-driver for the Thinkpad from somewhere on the diskette,
don't forget mscdex, format, himem.sys, fdisk and sys.com. Stick the
cdromdriver in /config.sys. That should get you going, I think.
Paul
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Re: [newbie] Wine question

2003-08-16 Thread Paul
On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 16:17, Paul wrote:
 On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 16:50, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
  I happen to own an old Thinkpad 380 with OS/2 on it, but *Derive* 
  won't run under OS/2's emulation of Win3.1 either. Possibly I 
  can get a copy of Win98, but I have no clue whatsoever about 
  installing it - the Thinkpad can't boot off a CD , so I guess 
  it's a dead end too ?
 
 You might know someone who has W98 running. Create a bootdiskette there,
 get the CDROM-driver for the Thinkpad from somewhere on the diskette,
 don't forget mscdex, format, himem.sys, fdisk and sys.com. Stick the
 cdromdriver in /config.sys. That should get you going, I think.
 Paul
  (who had a lot to do with M$ in the older days... Damn, I am getting
 OLD!)


Try

http://www.bootdisk.com

as the name says, bootdisks

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Re: [newbie] Wine question

2003-08-16 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Saturday 16 August 2003 01:17 pm, Paul wrote:
 On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 16:50, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
  I happen to own an old Thinkpad 380 with OS/2 on it, but
  *Derive* won't run under OS/2's emulation of Win3.1 either.
  Possibly I can get a copy of Win98, but I have no clue
  whatsoever about installing it - the Thinkpad can't boot off
  a CD , so I guess it's a dead end too ?

 You might know someone who has W98 running. Create a
 bootdiskette there, get the CDROM-driver for the Thinkpad from
 somewhere on the diskette, don't forget mscdex, format,
 himem.sys, fdisk and sys.com. Stick the cdromdriver in
 /config.sys. That should get you going, I think. Paul
  (who had a lot to do with M$ in the older days... Damn, I am
 getting OLD!)

Well, thanks Paul. I'll try this road even if I know next to 
nothing about Windows. Never thought I needed it.

Kaj Haulrich.
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Re: [newbie] Wine question

2003-08-16 Thread HaywireMac
On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 14:50:31 +
Kaj Haulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 If yes, I think my only option is to somehow get my hands on an 
 old, used Windows PC just to run this app. Under no 
 circumstances will I tolerate Windows on my *real* computers in 
 our home.

I *was* able to install the app under Winex3, but I get 

wine: Unhandled exception, starting debugger...

when I try to run it.

I would check the Transgaming site. I know it's mainly for games, but
they claim to support other apps as well, like Photoshop and such, so
you might get some help there.

I was really hopeful it would work, sorry.

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Re: [newbie] Wine question

2003-08-16 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Saturday 16 August 2003 08:23 pm, Heather/Femme wrote:
 On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 08:50, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
 snip

  If yes, I think my only option is to somehow get my hands on
  an old, used Windows PC just to run this app. Under no
  circumstances will I tolerate Windows on my *real* computers
  in our home.
 
  I happen to own an old Thinkpad 380 with OS/2 on it, but
  *Derive* won't run under OS/2's emulation of Win3.1 either.
  Possibly I can get a copy of Win98, but I have no clue
  whatsoever about installing it - the Thinkpad can't boot off
  a CD , so I guess it's a dead end too ?
 
  Thanks again, all.
 
  Kaj Haulrich.

 IF you are dead set on getting a copy of Windows onto that
 laptop I know of one easy way to do it.

 I also can ftp you a copy of w98 if you wish.

 Copy from the W98 Dir (Using ftp if you must) to the laptop
 the Windows Setup directory onto the laptops hard drive.

 Boot with boot diskette to an DOS prompt.  Enter the dir you
 copied your setup files to, run setup.exe.  Done.

 Win98 is stupid enough to install from HDD.  Win2k is too...
 Dunno about XP but your hardware is old enough i suspect that
 isn't an issue.

Thanks a lot, Femme. I already managed to get my hands on a CD 
with Win98 SE (hence the late reply). It's an OEM edition but i 
will give it a try. Now, my problem is to create a boot-floppy. 
If I understand you correctly, there is a setup directory on the 
CD, so I'll follow your advice once I have a boot floppy.

Maybe I'm a little nave : I've been browsing around this OEM CD 
to find a Windows equivalent of Linux's rawrite and a boot 
image, but with no luck. As someone suggested I'll try to pull 
one off the net.

I guess, that getting win98 onto this old Thinkpad is my best 
option for my daughter. That way her *main* PC can stay *clean*.

Thanks again

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[newbie] Wine question

2003-08-15 Thread Kaj Haulrich
Through the years I've noticed that quite a few people on this 
great list dual boots Windows occasionally. I've never had 
Windows on my box - and never will. 

But right now I have a problem : My oldest daughter just started 
in college and her math teacher demands her to buy a program 
called *Derive*. It's a math program from Texas Instruments and 
I've visited their website just to find out it's a Windows app 
only - no Unix/Linux version.

Well, my daughters scuttled their preinstalled Windows-crap when 
they bought their computers and are using Linux on a daily basis 
with no problems insofar. So I told them - maybe a little too 
enthusiastic - that Linux can do anything, including running 
Windows applications through an emulator.

So I just installed wine and downloaded the *Derive* program. 
This seems to be a file called *setup.exe*. Then, I typed *wine 
setup.exe* and everything seemed OK until it ask me for a 
*folder* for installation. The screen suggest strange *folders* 
like *c:\programs* etc.. (???) - I don't have such *folders*, so 
I typed : /usr/share/derive (having created that *folder* of 
course. But the program doesn't seem able to find any *folders* 
on my system, no matter what I type.

The man pages for wine do not mention this problem, but I'm 
confident some of you can help me out on this - probably very 
trivial - hiccup.

Thanks in advance

Kaj Haulrich.
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RE: [newbie] Wine question

2003-08-15 Thread Frankie
When you install wine, it creates a fake enviroment for windows apps.
usually in /var/lib/wine
eg:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] www]# cd /var/lib/wine
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wine]# ls
autoexec.bat  config.sys  My Documents/  Program Files/  windows/

as you can see, you have all the typical directories a windows program could possibly 
look for.

So in the path, just use the c:\program files\someappname

and wine will see to it that it gets put in the right place.

Wine bascially fools those apps into thinking that c:\x actuall exists
when really its putting the stuff in /var/lib/wine/program files/somedir


make sense?

now go forth and konquer. :-)


regards


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Sent: Saturday, 16 August 2003 4:37 AM
To: Newbie
Subject: [newbie] Wine question


Through the years I've noticed that quite a few people on this 
great list dual boots Windows occasionally. I've never had 
Windows on my box - and never will. 

But right now I have a problem : My oldest daughter just started 
in college and her math teacher demands her to buy a program 
called *Derive*. It's a math program from Texas Instruments and 
I've visited their website just to find out it's a Windows app 
only - no Unix/Linux version.

Well, my daughters scuttled their preinstalled Windows-crap when 
they bought their computers and are using Linux on a daily basis 
with no problems insofar. So I told them - maybe a little too 
enthusiastic - that Linux can do anything, including running 
Windows applications through an emulator.

So I just installed wine and downloaded the *Derive* program. 
This seems to be a file called *setup.exe*. Then, I typed *wine 
setup.exe* and everything seemed OK until it ask me for a 
*folder* for installation. The screen suggest strange *folders* 
like *c:\programs* etc.. (???) - I don't have such *folders*, so 
I typed : /usr/share/derive (having created that *folder* of 
course. But the program doesn't seem able to find any *folders* 
on my system, no matter what I type.

The man pages for wine do not mention this problem, but I'm 
confident some of you can help me out on this - probably very 
trivial - hiccup.

Thanks in advance

Kaj Haulrich.
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Re: [newbie] Wine question

2003-08-15 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Friday 15 August 2003 06:52 pm, Frankie wrote:
 When you install wine, it creates a fake enviroment for
 windows apps. usually in /var/lib/wine
 eg:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www]# cd /var/lib/wine
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wine]# ls
 autoexec.bat  config.sys  My Documents/  Program Files/ 
 windows/

 as you can see, you have all the typical directories a windows
 program could possibly look for.

 So in the path, just use the c:\program files\someappname

 and wine will see to it that it gets put in the right place.

 Wine bascially fools those apps into thinking that c:\x
 actuall exists when really its putting the stuff in
 /var/lib/wine/program files/somedir


 make sense?


Thanks, Frankie. I see those dir's in my tree. No succes though 
to install the #%$ program *derive*. Then I tried to install 
the Crossover suite. It brought me a little further and actually 
installed the app. However, when trying to run it, it exits with 
the very informative message : *unknown error*. 

Hmm... I think I'll give up. Maybe I can buy an old Windows-box 
for my daughter just to run that app, because the info says 
it'll run on everything (winders, that is) from 9.x to XP 
(whatever that is).

Thanks

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Re: [newbie] Wine question

2003-08-15 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Friday 15 August 2003 04:37 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote:

 So I just installed wine and downloaded the *Derive* program.
 This seems to be a file called *setup.exe*. Then, I typed *wine
 setup.exe* and everything seemed OK until it ask me for a
 *folder* for installation. The screen suggest strange *folders*
 like *c:\programs* etc.. (???) - I don't have such *folders*, so
 I typed : /usr/share/derive (having created that *folder* of
 course. But the program doesn't seem able to find any *folders*
 on my system, no matter what I type.

 The man pages for wine do not mention this problem, but I'm
 confident some of you can help me out on this - probably very
 trivial - hiccup.

 Thanks in advance

 Kaj Haulrich.

When I install games under WineX (game specific version of Wine from 
Transgaming) and it asks for where, I just accept the defaults (ok) and it 
installs it in its correct places. In WineXs' case, thats:

.transgaming/c_drive/Program Files/name of game

You might try that just accepting whatever defaults it offers.

There is also vmware...

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Re: [newbie] Wine question

2003-08-15 Thread Harv Nelson
Hi Kaj,

I'm having something of the same sorts of problems with a program I'm 
trying to run with wine.

Try this WinTools GUI set up aid:

http://www.franksworld.net/winetools/

It will make all the necessary directories and has an Installer of 
sorts.  There is some additional education on the site. 

Be aware that wine is a work in progress.  There are new RPM's built 
nearly every day.   Check WineHQ http://www.winehq.com/.  You might want 
to try WineX, also   http://digilander.libero.it/winehqitalia/winex.html

GL

Harv / AI9NL

Kaj Haulrich wrote:

Through the years I've noticed that quite a few people on this 
great list dual boots Windows occasionally. I've never had 
Windows on my box - and never will. 

But right now I have a problem : My oldest daughter just started 
in college and her math teacher demands her to buy a program 
called *Derive*. It's a math program from Texas Instruments and 
I've visited their website just to find out it's a Windows app 
only - no Unix/Linux version.

Well, my daughters scuttled their preinstalled Windows-crap when 
they bought their computers and are using Linux on a daily basis 
with no problems insofar. So I told them - maybe a little too 
enthusiastic - that Linux can do anything, including running 
Windows applications through an emulator.

So I just installed wine and downloaded the *Derive* program. 
This seems to be a file called *setup.exe*. Then, I typed *wine 
setup.exe* and everything seemed OK until it ask me for a 
*folder* for installation. The screen suggest strange *folders* 
like *c:\programs* etc.. (???) - I don't have such *folders*, so 
I typed : /usr/share/derive (having created that *folder* of 
course. But the program doesn't seem able to find any *folders* 
on my system, no matter what I type.

The man pages for wine do not mention this problem, but I'm 
confident some of you can help me out on this - probably very 
trivial - hiccup.

Thanks in advance

Kaj Haulrich.
 



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Re: [newbie] Wine question

2003-08-15 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Friday 15 August 2003 07:48 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
 On Friday 15 August 2003 04:37 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
  So I just installed wine and downloaded the *Derive*
  program. This seems to be a file called *setup.exe*. Then, I
  typed *wine setup.exe* and everything seemed OK until it ask
  me for a *folder* for installation. The screen suggest
  strange *folders* like *c:\programs* etc.. (???) - I don't
  have such *folders*, so I typed : /usr/share/derive (having
  created that *folder* of course. But the program doesn't
  seem able to find any *folders* on my system, no matter what
  I type.
 
  The man pages for wine do not mention this problem, but I'm
  confident some of you can help me out on this - probably
  very trivial - hiccup.
 
  Thanks in advance
 
  Kaj Haulrich.

 When I install games under WineX (game specific version of
 Wine from Transgaming) and it asks for where, I just accept
 the defaults (ok) and it installs it in its correct places. In
 WineXs' case, thats:

 .transgaming/c_drive/Program Files/name of game

 You might try that just accepting whatever defaults it offers.

 There is also vmware...

Thanks Ronald, but isn't vmware a different beast ? As far as I 
know (almost zero) vmware is not an emulator, but requires a 
full and licensed copy of this other *operating system* to run 
on Linux ???

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Re: [newbie] Wine question

2003-08-15 Thread Michael Lothian
Ah my uni uses Maple and Matlab for maths stuff

But why not see if some of the free maths programs on linux are the same 
type and have the same functions.

Mike

Kaj Haulrich wrote:

On Friday 15 August 2003 09:40 pm, Harv Nelson wrote:
 

Hi Kaj,

I'm having something of the same sorts of problems with a
program I'm trying to run with wine.
Try this WinTools GUI set up aid:

http://www.franksworld.net/winetools/

It will make all the necessary directories and has an
Installer of sorts.  There is some additional education on
the site.
Be aware that wine is a work in progress.  There are new
RPM's built nearly every day.   Check WineHQ
http://www.winehq.com/.  You might want to try WineX, also  
http://digilander.libero.it/winehqitalia/winex.html

GL

Harv / AI9NL

   

Thanks Harv, - I'll give it a try, but wine is quite OK on my 
system, so I guess it is this application from Texas that's 
misbehaving. When I accept the default (c:\programs) it just 
refuses the whole idea : can't locate *folders*. 

Which arises another rant : This application (Derive) is meant 
for math students and developed by Texas Instruments. I don't 
know much about Texas, but where I live universities use 
Unix/Linux. I have great respect for Texas Instruments and their 
fine calculators and thusly can't believe they are 
Microsoft-Only. My geography might be wrong, though : Redmond is 
the capitol of Texas ?

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Re: [newbie] Wine question

2003-08-15 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Friday 15 August 2003 11:47 pm, Michael Lothian wrote:
 Ah my uni uses Maple and Matlab for maths stuff

 But why not see if some of the free maths programs on linux
 are the same type and have the same functions.

 Mike


Mike - what free programs ???

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Re: [newbie] Wine question

2003-08-15 Thread Harv Nelson
Kaj Haulrich wrote:

On Friday 15 August 2003 09:40 pm, Harv Nelson wrote:
 

Hi Kaj,

I'm having something of the same sorts of problems with a
program I'm trying to run with wine.
Try this WinTools GUI set up aid:

http://www.franksworld.net/winetools/

It will make all the necessary directories and has an
Installer of sorts.  There is some additional education on
the site.
Be aware that wine is a work in progress.  There are new
RPM's built nearly every day.   Check WineHQ
http://www.winehq.com/.  You might want to try WineX, also  
http://digilander.libero.it/winehqitalia/winex.html

GL

Harv / AI9NL

   

Thanks Harv, - I'll give it a try, but wine is quite OK on my 
system, so I guess it is this application from Texas that's 
misbehaving. When I accept the default (c:\programs) it just 
refuses the whole idea : can't locate *folders*. 

Which arises another rant : This application (Derive) is meant 
for math students and developed by Texas Instruments. I don't 
know much about Texas, but where I live universities use 
Unix/Linux. I have great respect for Texas Instruments and their 
fine calculators and thusly can't believe they are 
Microsoft-Only. My geography might be wrong, though : Redmond is 
the capitol of Texas ?

Kaj Haulrich.
 



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If you installed wine under your user name, it should have created a 
directory named .wine (don't miss the dot ... /home/user/.wine ).  In 
that directory there should be another directory called fakewindows 
or, if you use the WineTools setup, the directory will be called simply 
C (an acknowledgement of what Windows likes to call your linux hda, 
C:\ ... /home/user/.wine/C ).   C will contain a bunch of 
directories that pretty much mirrors the look of a  normal Windows hard 
drive.

You can set up KDE so that the files with an .exe extension will be 
passed to wine automaticlly (if WineTools didn't do it for you)

RE Texas Insturments:  They used to put out stuff that even ran on a 
Commodore 64 ... but that was a while back.  I'm wondering if your 
Derive program is just an old script  that might be run with dosemu?

Where I live, the  Great State of Wisconsin,  on America's  North Coast 
(Lake Superior/Lake Michigan), the University of Wisconsin has recently 
terminated all of it's site licensing agreements with Microsoft

http://www.doit.wisc.edu/news/story.asp?filename=127

much as the City of Munich in Germany did recently.This will force 
students who have not already purchased software/licenses at lowered 
rates, to seek cheaper (Open Source) alternatives. 

I read somplace (I think the Register) that Bill Gates had recently 
dumped 26 million in M$ stock holdings ... and his cheif lacky, Steve 
Balmer had dumped stock valued at 1.45 BILLION!  Perhaps that is the 
best hand-writting-on-the-wall yet.

RE Texas:  Here in the US, we are waiting patiently for the Congress to 
pass legislation admitting that the South actually did win the Civil War 
of 1865.  This will allow those southern states (Texas among them) to 
secede from the Union with grace ... and those states in the north, that 
are so inclined, can seek a union with Canada.  Our interests here, more 
nearly match those of the Canadians rather than the interests of the 
Texas/Washington DC/Wall Street/Redmond axis.

Let the flame war begin  :-)

Best regards, and good luck for the girls

Harv / AI9NL
Washburn, Wisconsin





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Re: [newbie] Wine question

2003-08-15 Thread Michael Lothian
Well mathplot is on mandrake

http://sourceforge.net/search/ with the word math broaught up loads of 
things

Try matching something simialar

And then get your daugter to get her uni to switch lol

Mike

Kaj Haulrich wrote:

On Friday 15 August 2003 11:47 pm, Michael Lothian wrote:
 

Ah my uni uses Maple and Matlab for maths stuff

But why not see if some of the free maths programs on linux
are the same type and have the same functions.
Mike

   

Mike - what free programs ???

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Re: [newbie] Wine question

2003-08-15 Thread Josenildo Marques
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On Friday 15 August 2003 17:37, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
 Through the years I've noticed that quite a few people on this
 great list dual boots Windows occasionally. I've never had
 Windows on my box - and never will.

 But right now I have a problem : My oldest daughter just started
 in college and her math teacher demands her to buy a program
 called *Derive*. It's a math program from Texas Instruments and
 I've visited their website just to find out it's a Windows app
 only - no Unix/Linux version.

 Well, my daughters scuttled their preinstalled Windows-crap when
 they bought their computers and are using Linux on a daily basis
 with no problems insofar. So I told them - maybe a little too
 enthusiastic - that Linux can do anything, including running
 Windows applications through an emulator.

 So I just installed wine and downloaded the *Derive* program.
 This seems to be a file called *setup.exe*. Then, I typed *wine
 setup.exe* and everything seemed OK until it ask me for a
 *folder* for installation. The screen suggest strange *folders*
 like *c:\programs* etc.. (???) - I don't have such *folders*, so
 I typed : /usr/share/derive (having created that *folder* of
 course. But the program doesn't seem able to find any *folders*
 on my system, no matter what I type.

 The man pages for wine do not mention this problem, but I'm
 confident some of you can help me out on this - probably very
 trivial - hiccup.

 Thanks in advance

 Kaj Haulrich.

Perhaps you could try this other Wine

http://www.codeweavers.com/technology/wine/

But you have to uninstall the one you have before installing it. It has a GUI 
for setting things up.
Good luck.

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Re: [newbie] Wine question

2003-08-15 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Friday 15 August 2003 11:59 pm, Harv Nelson wrote:

snip

 RE Texas Insturments:  They used to put out stuff that even
 ran on a Commodore 64 ... but that was a while back.  I'm
 wondering if your Derive program is just an old script  that
 might be run with dosemu?

/snip

No, I've tried that, of course. It seems to be *graphical*.

snip

 Where I live, the  Great State of Wisconsin,  on America's 
 North Coast (Lake Superior/Lake Michigan), the University of
 Wisconsin has recently terminated all of it's site licensing
 agreements with Microsoft

 http://www.doit.wisc.edu/news/story.asp?filename=127

 much as the City of Munich in Germany did recently.This
 will force students who have not already purchased
 software/licenses at lowered rates, to seek cheaper (Open
 Source) alternatives.

/snip

Well, the Munich deal was a breakthrough here in Europe insofar 
public administration is concerned. But scientists, students and 
other nice people have been using Linux for years. Not because 
it is cheaper, but because it's open.

snip

 I read somplace (I think the Register) that Bill Gates had
 recently dumped 26 million in M$ stock holdings ... and his
 cheif lacky, Steve Balmer had dumped stock valued at 1.45
 BILLION!  Perhaps that is the best hand-writting-on-the-wall
 yet.

/snip

Would you buy a share ???

snip

 RE Texas:  Here in the US, we are waiting patiently for the
 Congress to pass legislation admitting that the South actually
 did win the Civil War of 1865.  This will allow those southern
 states (Texas among them) to secede from the Union with grace
 ... and those states in the north, that are so inclined, can
 seek a union with Canada.  Our interests here, more nearly
 match those of the Canadians rather than the interests of the
 Texas/Washington DC/Wall Street/Redmond axis.

 Let the flame war begin  :-)

 Best regards, and good luck for the girls

 Harv / AI9NL
 Washburn, Wisconsin

/snip

Same here in Europe, Harv. The Pope is far away from Scandinavia.

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Re: [newbie] Wine question

2003-08-15 Thread Bryan Tyson
On Friday 15 August 2003 17:29, Kaj Haulrich wrote:

 Hmm... I think I'll give up. Maybe I can buy an old Windows-box
 for my daughter just to run that app, because the info says
 it'll run on everything (winders, that is) from 9.x to XP
 (whatever that is).

Have you considered VMWare or Win4Lin?


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Re: [newbie] Wine Question

2002-01-29 Thread Trevor Rhodes

On Thursday 17 January 2002 02:40, you wrote:

 Which version of Wine are you running?

 I just installed the CodeWeavers installation and it works great.

I've got that version installed and have downloaded a program I wish to 
install.  It's a self installing exe.  How do I accomplish the install.  Is 
it just wine filename.exe or is there something I'm missing.  I ask, because 
I tried this and it failed with multiple, multiple, multiple errors.

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RE: [newbie] Wine Question

2002-01-29 Thread Franki

If its a self executing extractable, you could try opening it with winzip
first.. most often self extractors for windows can be opened with winzip.

then extract the setup files and try installin it.


rgds

Frank

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On Thursday 17 January 2002 02:40, you wrote:

 Which version of Wine are you running?

 I just installed the CodeWeavers installation and it works great.

I've got that version installed and have downloaded a program I wish to
install.  It's a self installing exe.  How do I accomplish the install.  Is
it just wine filename.exe or is there something I'm missing.  I ask, because
I tried this and it failed with multiple, multiple, multiple errors.

Trevor





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[newbie] Wine Question

2002-01-16 Thread Rich

I'm running Mandrake 8.1 and, when I run a Windows application under
wine there's a warning message that it couldn't find xmessage and the
program may not run well (and they don't!).

Where would I find xmessage?

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Re: [newbie] Wine Question

2002-01-16 Thread Joe Wittmer

Hi Rich,

Which version of Wine are you running?

I just installed the CodeWeavers installation and it works great. But, you
do have to install the xmessage package. There is more on the web at:

http://www.codeweavers.com/technology/wine/help.php

Read Item #6.

GL
Joe

I'm running Mandrake 8.1 and, when I run a Windows application under
wine there's a warning message that it couldn't find xmessage and the
program may not run well (and they don't!).

Where would I find xmessage?

Rich
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Re: [newbie] Wine Question

2002-01-16 Thread Rich

On Wed, 2002-01-16 at 10:40, Joe Wittmer wrote:
 Hi Rich,
 
 Which version of Wine are you running?
 
 I just installed the CodeWeavers installation and it works great. But, you
 do have to install the xmessage package. There is more on the web at:
 
 http://www.codeweavers.com/technology/wine/help.php
 
 Read Item #6.

I'm also running the codeweavers version and I'll check out the site -
thanks!
 
 I'm running Mandrake 8.1 and, when I run a Windows application under
 wine there's a warning message that it couldn't find xmessage and the
 program may not run well (and they don't!).
 
 Where would I find xmessage?
 
 Rich
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Re: [newbie] Wine Question

2002-01-16 Thread Tom Brinkman

On Wednesday 16 January 2002 08:20 am, Rich wrote:
 I'm running Mandrake 8.1 and, when I run a Windows application under
 wine there's a warning message that it couldn't find xmessage and the
 program may not run well (and they don't!).

 Where would I find xmessage?

 Rich

   X11R6-contrib rpm provides xmessage.  
I've got X11R6-contrib-3.3.6-18mdk and codeweavers-wine-20011108-5
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[newbie] WINE Question

2000-11-08 Thread Joe Morris

Okay, I just completed my wine.conf file and ran Adobe Acrobat with it. 
I then decided to open up Astroship Evader.  I typed in the following:

wine /mnt/win_c/Astroship Evader/Astroship Evader.exe

I then got the following:

cannot find file "/mnt/win_c/Astroship"

Obviously, it does like the spaces in the file names.  Tell me, how do I
overcome this problem?  could you please tell me how to retype the above
command to launch it?  Thanks! Joe




Re: [newbie] WINE Question

2000-11-08 Thread Stuart Foster

 I then decided to open up Astroship Evader.  I typed in the following:

 wine /mnt/win_c/Astroship Evader/Astroship Evader.exe

 I then got the following:

 cannot find file "/mnt/win_c/Astroship"

 Obviously, it does like the spaces in the file names.  Tell me, how do I
 overcome this problem?  could you please tell me how to retype the above
 command to launch it?  Thanks! Joe


Hi Joe,

I'm not too sure but have you tried enclosing the astoship evader.exe bit in
quotation marks?
try both single and double. I believe the single option is the most likely
to work.

Cheers

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Re: [newbie] WINE Question

2000-11-08 Thread Tom Brinkman

On Wednesday 08 November 2000 05:20 pm, Joe Morris wrote:
 Okay, I just completed my wine.conf file and ran Adobe Acrobat
 with it. I then decided to open up Astroship Evader.  I typed in
 the following:

 wine /mnt/win_c/Astroship Evader/Astroship Evader.exe

What little I've used wine, it seems to work better if you cd to 
the apps location, then run the program.  I suspect this has to do 
with DOS's lack of *nix compatible file permissions.

 I then got the following:
 cannot find file "/mnt/win_c/Astroship"

To cd into a dir that has spaces in the dir name use a '\'.
EG,  cd /mnt/win_c/Astroship\EvaderThen to run the program you'd 
typewine Astroship\Evader(the .exe isn't neccesary and it's 
better not to use it.  The backsplash as used above acts as an 
escape char to replace the space)
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