Re: [newbie] XFce 4.0
On Thursday 02 October 2003 10:46, Todd Slater wrote: On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 07:26:01PM -0400, Greg Meyer wrote: On Sunday 28 September 2003 11:41 pm, Todd Slater wrote: I finally got around to making the RPM's for XFce 4.0, available at http://clevername.homeip.net/xfce4/ as always. Cool. Are these checkinstall rpms or are they built from spec file? The former. Still struggling with the latter. Todd Todd, I updated it and everything's OK. Thank you very much. -- cyb Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] XFce 4.0
On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 23:46, Todd Slater wrote: The former. Still struggling with the latter. ...but at your highly advanced age, ladders are a struggle anyways, ain't that correct? (g) stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- Benson's Dogma: ASCII is our god, and Unix is his profit. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] XFce 4.0
On Sunday 28 September 2003 11:41 pm, Todd Slater wrote: I finally got around to making the RPM's for XFce 4.0, available at http://clevername.homeip.net/xfce4/ as always. Cool. Are these checkinstall rpms or are they built from spec file? -- /g Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] XFce 4.0
On Tuesday 30 Sep 2003 3:27 am, John Drouhard wrote: On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:40:45 -0400 HaywireMac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 16:37:43 -0400 Mark Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Nice Joe! how'd ya do that? And what is Pek? Pekwm, it's a really cool WM, I'm running the latest CVS, they just added the necessary Freedesktop.org compatibilities so I can run Pekwm instead of XFWM. So I run the XFCE panel and mcs-daemon and stuff, but Pekwm takes care of the windows. Pekwm allows for autogrouping of windows (like you see in the shot, I can move through those grouped terms with my mousewheel!), preset framegeometries, etc. Kinda like Fluxbox but on steroids. What is your startup script for running pekwm, xfce4-iconbox, xfce4-taskbar, and gkrellm? Also, how can I make the menu the same as Mandrake's menu? I would like to try this combination (right now I use all the XFce4 parts together: mcs daemon, iconbox, taskbar, desktop, xfwm...) Thanks, John Drouhard I have some files in the download area of my web site which will create 'Mandrake Menus' for pekwm. http://www.jennings.homelinux.net/modules.php?name=Downloadsd_op=viewdownloadcid=1 I am running the released version of pekwm *not* the CVS, so it may not be quite the same. Looks like I shall have to find time to try Todd's new RPMs. The popular reaction seems to be very positive. derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] XFce 4.0
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:27:47 -0500 John Drouhard [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: What is your startup script for running pekwm, xfce4-iconbox, xfce4-taskbar, and gkrellm? #XFCE4 and Pekwm xfce-mcs-manager #xfwm4 --daemon xfce4-iconbar #xfdesktop xset b off xset m 50/10 3 gkrellm -w xscreensaver exec xfce4-panel Esetroot -f ~/wallpapers/basicbl.png exec ~/cvs2/pekwm/src/pekwm of course, I'm running pek from my home dir, you would sub whatever path to your WM. Also, how can I make the menu the same as Mandrake's menu? I would like to try this combination (right now I use all the XFce4 parts together: mcs daemon, iconbox, taskbar, desktop, xfwm...) The menu part I'm not sure about, as you can see I don't run xfdesktop, so that I can use the Pekwm root menu. To get the full Mandrake menu, I believe you would have to use xfdesktop, but I am not sure how that works, best to ask on the XFCE list, or maybe Stephen knows. Like I say, I know Pek pretty well, but I'm not and XFCExpert... ;-) The IconBox does not appear to work for me, I guess since I am not using xfdesktop, but I never minimize apps anyway, so it's kind of a moot point. I really just wanted the panel, system tray, and the settings manager. I may eventually replace Gkrellm with just the appropriate panel applets, I'm not sure yet. -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ To lead people, you must follow behind. -- Lao Tsu Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] XFce 4.0
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 08:52:56 +0100 Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I have some files in the download area of my web site which will create 'Mandrake Menus' for pekwm. http://www.jennings.homelinux.net/modules.php?name=Downloadsd_op=viewdownloadcid=1 I am running the released version of pekwm *not* the CVS, so it may not be quite the same. Looks like I shall have to find time to try Todd's new RPMs. The popular reaction seems to be very positive. I don't think the release version of Pek will work with XFCE, as it does not have the appropriate WM hints to draw the window decor and such. Compiling the current CVS is not much more involved though, in fact it's the same unless you want the shadowed fonts, then you need imlib2-devel and freetype-devel. -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ It's not reality that's important, but how you perceive things. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] XFce 4.0
On Tue, 2003-09-30 at 06:03, Mark Weaver wrote: Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 13:41, Todd Slater wrote: I finally got around to making the RPM's for XFce 4.0, available at http://clevername.homeip.net/xfce4/ as always. WHAT A GUY! Gee, mate, you're a sport! Good on ya! Hip hip hoorah! Todd's neater than sliced bread! Kudos! Nudos! Das ist gut! Muy bien! Yowzah! Geewillickers! stephen kuhn - owner here here...I'm with Stephen on this. I LOVE IT! Man! has this desktop ever come a long way. Thank you SO much for putting this stuff online. It is Beauutiful and so stinkin easy to install and get going I almost got bored! The only thing I have to whinge about (whinge = whine) is that when I try to run or use another right-click function - it takes SO long...so I re-arranged my path statements and that helped a bit...but wonderingdoes anyone else have to deal with that? (Probably best posted to the XFCE4 group - but ain't hurting to post it here - YES - Stephen's asking a question...)...blah... stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- No one regards what is before his feet; we all gaze at the stars. -- Quintus Ennius Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] XFce 4.0
On Tue, 2003-09-30 at 06:29, Boulytchev, Vasiliy wrote: Ladies and Gents, Does anyone know/use a Groupware Linux Email client that replaces Outlook? THANKS! Vasiliy Boulytchev Yeah - Evoltuion...1.4.5...what else? stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- Others can stop you temporarily, only you can do it permanently. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] XFce 4.0
On Tue, 2003-09-30 at 06:35, Kevin B. O'Brien wrote: Another newbie question here.g What is XFce 4.0 anyway? Unlike any form of M$ Windows, you have a choice of the program that manages your windows - hence Window Managers and Desktops. In the lead are currently KDE and Gnome - but being that they're both very resource hungry programs, some people opt for more simplistic means of managing the programs that work within windows...XFCE4 is yet another means by which to manage windows on a desktop framework - it's minimalistic and configurable enough to do justice to low end machines... stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- There are things that are so serious that you can only joke about them - Heisenberg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] XFce 4.0
On Tue, 2003-09-30 at 08:40, HaywireMac wrote: Pekwm, it's a really cool WM, I'm running the latest CVS, they just added the necessary Freedesktop.org compatibilities so I can run Pekwm instead of XFWM. So I run the XFCE panel and mcs-daemon and stuff, but Pekwm takes care of the windows. Pekwm allows for autogrouping of windows (like you see in the shot, I can move through those grouped terms with my mousewheel!), preset framegeometries, etc. Kinda like Fluxbox but on steroids. You and PEK - what are you - a PEK'er head? (g) (Had to do that, mate - you walked into it...) stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- Why you say you no bunny rabbit when you have little powder-puff tail? -- The Tasmanian Devil Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] XFce 4.0
XFce and Pekwm, huh? Man, now i have to go and try stuff again. How's the latest CVS doing? Am i gonna have to change my config files? (I have sorta paid attention, but now very well..) -- Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] XFce 4.0
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 08:05:41 -0700 Eric Huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: XFce and Pekwm, huh? Man, now i have to go and try stuff again. How's the latest CVS doing? Am i gonna have to change my config files? (I have sorta paid attention, but now very well..) Mainly just the themes and config files have changed, with some minor changes to autoprops (ie. geometry is now called framegeometry...) The old themes will not work *at all*, in fact Pek will crash quite spectacularly trying to load an old theme, but i've got some spiffy new ones, like the port of Bluecurve I showed in my screenshot. Shadowed fonts are kinda neat... The maddening thing is, last time I checked, the site hosting the devel docs was down...but if ya need help with the config file (there are a couple of new options) I'll send ya mine. I haven't noticed any real problems, my keys and some other actions had some problems, but not since I CVS'd last (yesterday). -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ You can observe a lot just by watching. -- Yogi Berra Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] XFce 4.0
Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Tue, 2003-09-30 at 06:03, Mark Weaver wrote: Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 13:41, Todd Slater wrote: I finally got around to making the RPM's for XFce 4.0, available at http://clevername.homeip.net/xfce4/ as always. WHAT A GUY! Gee, mate, you're a sport! Good on ya! Hip hip hoorah! Todd's neater than sliced bread! Kudos! Nudos! Das ist gut! Muy bien! Yowzah! Geewillickers! stephen kuhn - owner here here...I'm with Stephen on this. I LOVE IT! Man! has this desktop ever come a long way. Thank you SO much for putting this stuff online. It is Beauutiful and so stinkin easy to install and get going I almost got bored! The only thing I have to whinge about (whinge = whine) is that when I try to run or use another right-click function - it takes SO long...so I re-arranged my path statements and that helped a bit...but wonderingdoes anyone else have to deal with that? (Probably best posted to the XFCE4 group - but ain't hurting to post it here - YES - Stephen's asking a question...)...blah... stephen kuhn - owner I haven't noticed any of that although I find myself wishing for the right-click main menu such as the one found in KDE, Fluxbox, IceWM, and so on. How's come XFce4 doesn't have that feature. Thats really my only complaint. -- Mark If necessity is the mother of invention, then who's the father? --- Paid for by Penguins against modern appliances(R) Linux User Since 1996 Powered by Mandrake Linux 8.2 9.1 ICQ# 27816299 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] XFce 4.0
On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 12:03:47PM -0400, Mark Weaver wrote: Stephen Kuhn wrote: The only thing I have to whinge about (whinge = whine) is that when I try to run or use another right-click function - it takes SO long...so I re-arranged my path statements and that helped a bit...but wonderingdoes anyone else have to deal with that? (Probably best posted to the XFCE4 group - but ain't hurting to post it here - YES - Stephen's asking a question...)...blah... I haven't noticed any of that although I find myself wishing for the right-click main menu such as the one found in KDE, Fluxbox, IceWM, and so on. How's come XFce4 doesn't have that feature. Thats really my only complaint. Have you tried MenuMaker? It will generate a root menu for many WM's, XFce4 included. I just can't remember if it's right-click for menu or workspaces now. Todd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] XFce 4.0
On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 11:40:39PM +1000, Stephen Kuhn wrote: The only thing I have to whinge about (whinge = whine) is that when I try to run or use another right-click function - it takes SO long...so I re-arranged my path statements and that helped a bit...but wonderingdoes anyone else have to deal with that? (Probably best posted to the XFCE4 group - but ain't hurting to post it here - YES - Stephen's asking a question...)...blah... Can't help with the slow menus, but have you tried the mini-cmd add on? I love this baby, it sits in the panel and just type the command you want to run there and bang! Todd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] XFce 4.0
Todd Slater wrote: On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 12:03:47PM -0400, Mark Weaver wrote: Stephen Kuhn wrote: The only thing I have to whinge about (whinge = whine) is that when I try to run or use another right-click function - it takes SO long...so I re-arranged my path statements and that helped a bit...but wonderingdoes anyone else have to deal with that? (Probably best posted to the XFCE4 group - but ain't hurting to post it here - YES - Stephen's asking a question...)...blah... I haven't noticed any of that although I find myself wishing for the right-click main menu such as the one found in KDE, Fluxbox, IceWM, and so on. How's come XFce4 doesn't have that feature. Thats really my only complaint. Have you tried MenuMaker? It will generate a root menu for many WM's, XFce4 included. I just can't remember if it's right-click for menu or workspaces now. Todd Interesting! I'd never heard about MenuMaker. I've usually got my nose in a block of PERL code or some other language and seldom come up for air. Much to my wife's shagrin. -- Mark If necessity is the mother of invention, then who's the father? --- Paid for by Penguins against modern appliances(R) Linux User Since 1996 Powered by Mandrake Linux 8.2 9.1 ICQ# 27816299 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] XFce 4.0
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 08:13:15 -0400 HaywireMac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:27:47 -0500 John Drouhard [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: What is your startup script for running pekwm, xfce4-iconbox, xfce4-taskbar, and gkrellm? #XFCE4 and Pekwm xfce-mcs-manager #xfwm4 --daemon xfce4-iconbar #xfdesktop xset b off xset m 50/10 3 gkrellm -w xscreensaver exec xfce4-panel Esetroot -f ~/wallpapers/basicbl.png exec ~/cvs2/pekwm/src/pekwm I have succeeded in running xfce4 with pek. It it's pretty awesome! I just have some questions: 1. How can I get new themes? The default purple one isn't to my liking. 2. Is there a way to make xfce4-panel not show up in the iconbar, and have it so that when you switch desktops with it, it stays up. (have it on all the desktops, and not the taskbar.) 3. Have the mouse acceleration not quite as fast. 4. Make gkrellm not appear in the taskbar, and have it on all desktops. make the menu appear on right click, and nothing on left click. Thanks so much! John Drouhard -- Tue Sep 30 19:06:09 CDT 2003 - They told me to install Windows 98 or better, so I installed Linux. Registered Linux User # 315649 Registered Machine # 201001 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] XFce 4.0
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:09:10 -0500
John Drouhard [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
I have succeeded in running xfce4 with pek. It it's pretty awesome! I
just have some questions:
1. How can I get new themes? The default purple one isn't to my
liking.
Not too many themes available yet for the latest CVS. I have a couple I
could mail to you.
Check out the Pek site under Themes, there are some there.
2. Is there a way to make xfce4-panel not show up in the
iconbar, and have it so that when you switch desktops with it, it
stays up. (have it on all the desktops, and not the taskbar.)
Make the panel sticky, you should have a setting for that in your
~/.pekwm/keys file. Mine is:
KeyPress = Mod4 a { Actions = Stick }
I am not sure if this can be done at startup, I am currently
investigating whether the panel can be recognized by the
~/.pekwm/autoprops file.
I am not aware of any way to have the panel not show up in the iconbar,
since Pek sees it as an app. Perhaps this is something that could be
discussed on the Pekwm-devel list?
3. Have the mouse acceleration not quite as fast.
Don't use my setting (xset m 50/10 3 ), use the XFCE settings manager
to set your mouse speed/acceleration.
4. Make gkrellm not appear in the taskbar, and have it on all
desktops. make the menu appear on right click, and nothing on left
click.
Again, not sure about Gkrellm, that's better asked on the XFCE lists, I
don't use the taskbar or iconbar, as I say, I never minimize my apps
since I use 10 desktops... :-)
To make the menu appear on right-click, change the setting in your
~/.pekwm/mouse file.
Thanks so much!
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Re: [newbie] XFce 4.0
On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 13:41, Todd Slater wrote: I finally got around to making the RPM's for XFce 4.0, available at http://clevername.homeip.net/xfce4/ as always. WHAT A GUY! Gee, mate, you're a sport! Good on ya! Hip hip hoorah! Todd's neater than sliced bread! Kudos! Nudos! Das ist gut! Muy bien! Yowzah! Geewillickers! stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- Come, you spirits That tend on mortal thoughts, unsex me here, And fill me, from the crown to the toe, top-full Of direst cruelty! make thick my blood, Stop up the access and passage to remorse That no compunctious visiting of nature Shake my fell purpose, not keep peace between The effect and it! Come to my woman's breasts, And take my milk for gall, you murdering ministers, Wherever in your sightless substances You wait on nature's mischief! Come, thick night, And pall the in the dunnest smoke of hell, That my keen knife see not the wound it makes, Nor heaven peep through the blanket of the dark, To cry `Hold, hold!' -- Lady MacBeth Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] XFce 4.0
Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 13:41, Todd Slater wrote: I finally got around to making the RPM's for XFce 4.0, available at http://clevername.homeip.net/xfce4/ as always. WHAT A GUY! Gee, mate, you're a sport! Good on ya! Hip hip hoorah! Todd's neater than sliced bread! Kudos! Nudos! Das ist gut! Muy bien! Yowzah! Geewillickers! stephen kuhn - owner here here...I'm with Stephen on this. I LOVE IT! Man! has this desktop ever come a long way. Thank you SO much for putting this stuff online. It is Beauutiful and so stinkin easy to install and get going I almost got bored! -- Mark If necessity is the mother of invention, then who's the father? --- Paid for by Penguins against modern appliances(R) Linux User Since 1996 Powered by Mandrake Linux 8.2 9.1 ICQ# 27816299 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] XFce 4.0
Ladies and Gents, Does anyone know/use a Groupware Linux Email client that replaces Outlook? THANKS! Vasiliy Boulytchev Colorado Information Technologies, Inc. http://www.coinfotech.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] XFce 4.0
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 16:03:17 -0400 Mark Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: here here...I'm with Stephen on this. I LOVE IT! Man! has this desktop ever come a long way. Thank you SO much for putting this stuff online. It is Beauutiful and so stinkin easy to install and get going I almost got bored! and it's even better when you combine it with Pekwm... www.orderinchaos.org/pekandxfce4.png Loove it! -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ You have to run as fast as you can just to stay where you are. If you want to get anywhere, you'll have to run much faster. -- Lewis Carroll Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] XFce 4.0
At 04:03 PM 9/29/2003, Mark Weaver said something remarkably like (but somehow subtly different from): Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 13:41, Todd Slater wrote: I finally got around to making the RPM's for XFce 4.0, available at http://clevername.homeip.net/xfce4/ as always. WHAT A GUY! Gee, mate, you're a sport! Good on ya! Hip hip hoorah! Todd's neater than sliced bread! Kudos! Nudos! Das ist gut! Muy bien! Yowzah! Geewillickers! stephen kuhn - owner here here...I'm with Stephen on this. I LOVE IT! Man! has this desktop ever come a long way. Thank you SO much for putting this stuff online. It is Beauutiful and so stinkin easy to install and get going I almost got bored! Another newbie question here.g What is XFce 4.0 anyway? -- Kevin B. O'Brien TANSTAAFL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't let it end like this. Tell them I said something. -- Last words of Pancho Villa Help fight SPAM. Join CAUCE. http://www.cauce.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] XFce 4.0
On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 23:29, Boulytchev, Vasiliy wrote: Ladies and Gents, Does anyone know/use a Groupware Linux Email client that replaces Outlook? THANKS! is Evolution any use to you? Paul M Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] XFce 4.0
HaywireMac wrote: On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 16:03:17 -0400 Mark Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: here here...I'm with Stephen on this. I LOVE IT! Man! has this desktop ever come a long way. Thank you SO much for putting this stuff online. It is Beauutiful and so stinkin easy to install and get going I almost got bored! and it's even better when you combine it with Pekwm... www.orderinchaos.org/pekandxfce4.png Loove it! Nice Joe! how'd ya do that? And what is Pek? for me I'm trying to figure out why my app window fonts are so large? http://mdw1982.dyndns.org/images/XFce4_desktop.png -- Mark If necessity is the mother of invention, then who's the father? --- Paid for by Penguins against modern appliances(R) Linux User Since 1996 Powered by Mandrake Linux 8.2 9.1 ICQ# 27816299 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] XFce 4.0
Boulytchev, Vasiliy wrote: Ladies and Gents, Does anyone know/use a Groupware Linux Email client that replaces Outlook? THANKS! Vasiliy Boulytchev Colorado Information Technologies, Inc. http://www.coinfotech.com Evolution comes to mind. As far as real GRoupWare apps take a look at what Novell has with GroupWise 6.5! http://www.novell.com/products/groupwise/nix.html -- Mark If necessity is the mother of invention, then who's the father? --- Paid for by Penguins against modern appliances(R) Linux User Since 1996 Powered by Mandrake Linux 8.2 9.1 ICQ# 27816299 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] XFce 4.0
Mark Wrote: If necessity is the mother of invention, then who's the father? Its Laziness. Laziness is the FATHER of Invention. Now ya know. (no dna tests required) Harv / AI9NL washburn, WIsconsin Mark Weaver wrote: Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 13:41, Todd Slater wrote: I finally got around to making the RPM's for XFce 4.0, available at http://clevername.homeip.net/xfce4/ as always. WHAT A GUY! Gee, mate, you're a sport! Good on ya! Hip hip hoorah! Todd's neater than sliced bread! Kudos! Nudos! Das ist gut! Muy bien! Yowzah! Geewillickers! stephen kuhn - owner here here...I'm with Stephen on this. I LOVE IT! Man! has this desktop ever come a long way. Thank you SO much for putting this stuff online. It is Beauutiful and so stinkin easy to install and get going I almost got bored! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] XFce 4.0
Kevin B. O'Brien wrote: At 04:03 PM 9/29/2003, Mark Weaver said something remarkably like (but somehow subtly different from): Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 13:41, Todd Slater wrote: I finally got around to making the RPM's for XFce 4.0, available at http://clevername.homeip.net/xfce4/ as always. WHAT A GUY! Gee, mate, you're a sport! Good on ya! Hip hip hoorah! Todd's neater than sliced bread! Kudos! Nudos! Das ist gut! Muy bien! Yowzah! Geewillickers! stephen kuhn - owner here here...I'm with Stephen on this. I LOVE IT! Man! has this desktop ever come a long way. Thank you SO much for putting this stuff online. It is Beauutiful and so stinkin easy to install and get going I almost got bored! Another newbie question here.g What is XFce 4.0 anyway? a very awesome and very light weight desktop manager. -- Mark If necessity is the mother of invention, then who's the father? --- Paid for by Penguins against modern appliances(R) Linux User Since 1996 Powered by Mandrake Linux 8.2 9.1 ICQ# 27816299 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] XFce 4.0
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 17:59:08 -0400 Mark Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] insightfully noted: snippage Another newbie question here.g What is XFce 4.0 anyway? a very awesome and very light weight desktop manager. One might say it has moved /beyond/ wm status and is approaching desktop environment (albeit the smallest, fastest one around) Best, Mike -- The man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life --Muhammad Ali Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] XFce 4.0
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 16:37:43 -0400 Mark Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Nice Joe! how'd ya do that? And what is Pek? Pekwm, it's a really cool WM, I'm running the latest CVS, they just added the necessary Freedesktop.org compatibilities so I can run Pekwm instead of XFWM. So I run the XFCE panel and mcs-daemon and stuff, but Pekwm takes care of the windows. Pekwm allows for autogrouping of windows (like you see in the shot, I can move through those grouped terms with my mousewheel!), preset framegeometries, etc. Kinda like Fluxbox but on steroids. http://pekwm.pekdon.net/ for me I'm trying to figure out why my app window fonts are so large? http://mdw1982.dyndns.org/images/XFce4_desktop.png You should be able to change that in the XFCE settings, User Interface, but I'm not an XFCExpert, LOL! That's Stephen's territory... I've always loved XFCE, but now I can have my cake and eat it too! -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ During the voyage of life, remember to keep an eye out for a fair wind; batten down during a storm; hail all passing ships; and fly your colors proudly. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] XFce 4.0
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:40:45 -0400 HaywireMac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 16:37:43 -0400 Mark Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Nice Joe! how'd ya do that? And what is Pek? Pekwm, it's a really cool WM, I'm running the latest CVS, they just added the necessary Freedesktop.org compatibilities so I can run Pekwm instead of XFWM. So I run the XFCE panel and mcs-daemon and stuff, but Pekwm takes care of the windows. Pekwm allows for autogrouping of windows (like you see in the shot, I can move through those grouped terms with my mousewheel!), preset framegeometries, etc. Kinda like Fluxbox but on steroids. What is your startup script for running pekwm, xfce4-iconbox, xfce4-taskbar, and gkrellm? Also, how can I make the menu the same as Mandrake's menu? I would like to try this combination (right now I use all the XFce4 parts together: mcs daemon, iconbox, taskbar, desktop, xfwm...) Thanks, John Drouhard -- Mon Sep 29 21:25:28 CDT 2003 - They told me to install Windows 98 or better, so I installed Linux. Registered Linux User # 315649 Registered Machine # 201001 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] XFce 4.0
I finally got around to making the RPM's for XFce 4.0, available at http://clevername.homeip.net/xfce4/ as always. t Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
