Re: [newbie] amaroK 1.2 final

2005-02-20 Thread JR
 I compiled this package with debug off, but if you really want to get to
 the bottom of this, I could make you a special package with debug on and
 then help you run it from within gdb so the devs can get a proper backtrace
 on your problem.  Let me know if you want to do that.

Thanks Greg,

From reading up on the net, I followed someones advice of going to the last 
entry in the collection_scan.log. This was an mp3, but it was only 54K, and 
contained less than one second of audio.

I deleted this and performed the scan with no problems. Amarok is (almost) 
perfect again, but if my installling the 'debug on' version is of any use to 
you or the developers, I'm happy to help.






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Re: [newbie] amaroK 1.2 final

2005-02-20 Thread Greg Meyer
On Sunday 20 February 2005 04:16 pm, JR wrote:
 From reading up on the net, I followed someones advice of going to the last
 entry in the collection_scan.log. This was an mp3, but it was only 54K, and
 contained less than one second of audio.

 I deleted this and performed the scan with no problems. Amarok is (almost)
 perfect again, but if my installling the 'debug on' version is of any use
 to you or the developers, I'm happy to help.

Good news.  I am happy to hear you found the problem.  Since it was the mp3 
file that caused the error, it might not be worthwhile to do any more.  At 
this point, any info would go into simply making taglib and/or amarok crash 
more gracefully for instances of whatever error your mp3 had.

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Re: [newbie] amaroK 1.2 final

2005-02-19 Thread Greg Meyer
On Friday 18 February 2005 03:38 pm, JR wrote:
 Thanks for packaging these. As with every version of Amarok I have tried,
 creating a collection causes the program to crash midway through the
 process. I have reported it, but it has been reported in the past and
 marded as 'fixed'. Another suggestion was that the problem lay with taglib,
 and that an upgrade would fix it - but it didn't help in my case.

 Anyone else having that problem?

I have not had a problem with the app crashing while scanning a collection.  
Many of the problems I did have were in fact solved by upgrading taglib to 
1.3.1.  It is possible that your tags have a few problems (non-standard 
elements may be a better term) that is causing taglib to crash.  If you run 
amarokapp from the command line, is there anyoutput from the crash?  

I compiled this package with debug off, but if you really want to get to the 
bottom of this, I could make you a special package with debug on and then 
help you run it from within gdb so the devs can get a proper backtrace on 
your problem.  Let me know if you want to do that.
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Re: [newbie] amaroK 1.2 final

2005-02-19 Thread Greg Meyer
On Thursday 17 February 2005 08:14 pm, Dan Gordon wrote:
  Please let me know about any problems.

 Well Greg I have been using this since you released it and so far no
 problems to report,  I'm not using any sql at all and it works like a
 charm.  Tomorrow I'm going to load my whole list and let it play
 random all day if that works without any problem then i will be
 convinced that this is the killer linux juke box app.
 And thanks so much for the rpm's they have never given me any problem
 what so ever.

I'm really glad to hear that it is working well.  IMHO, amaroK is the best 
option right now for playing music on linux.  But it is just my opinion of 
course.

Watch out for the new amaroK Live CD that will be released in the coming week.  
Very cool way to try amaroK if your not sure about it or if you want to show 
it to you r windows user friends.  Info here

http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/index.php/AmaroK_Live
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Re: [newbie] amaroK 1.2 final

2005-02-19 Thread Aron Smith
On Saturday 19 February 2005 03:38 pm, Greg Meyer wrote:
 On Thursday 17 February 2005 08:14 pm, Dan Gordon wrote:
   Please let me know about any problems.
 
  Well Greg I have been using this since you released it and so far no
  problems to report,  I'm not using any sql at all and it works like a
  charm.  Tomorrow I'm going to load my whole list and let it play
  random all day if that works without any problem then i will be
  convinced that this is the killer linux juke box app.
  And thanks so much for the rpm's they have never given me any problem
  what so ever.

 I'm really glad to hear that it is working well.  IMHO, amaroK is the best
 option right now for playing music on linux.  But it is just my opinion of
 course.

 Watch out for the new amaroK Live CD that will be released in the coming
 week. Very cool way to try amaroK if your not sure about it or if you want
 to show it to you r windows user friends.  Info here

 http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/index.php/AmaroK_Live
Excuse my this may be going offtopic but after checking that link it occured 
to me that you could package stand alone applications that way
as live CDs ...Games anyone?


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Re: [newbie] amaroK 1.2 final

2005-02-18 Thread Glenn
On Thu February 17 2005 17:08, Glenn wrote:


 So far, that seems to have done the trick, Greg.  Up to 52% of the
 collection built so far, and no crash.  Thanks.

 Glenn

Awesome app.  And I don't even have to keep futzing with MySQL, since sqlite 
is taking all the mp3s I can throw at it.  Loaded up ~200 songs to play last 
night, and it was still cranking through them this morning with nary a burp.

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Re: [newbie] amaroK 1.2 final

2005-02-18 Thread JR
On Thursday 17 February 2005 08:14 pm, Dan Gordon wrote:
 On February 13, 2005 12:29 pm, Greg Meyer wrote:
  For anyone that have been using my beta packages of amaroK, I have
  test packages up for 1.2 final.  I have been testing all morning,
  and everything seems good, but before 1.2 final is officially
  announced by the amaroK team, they would like to see the packages
  tested more.  Since I am the only Mandrake user on the amaroK
  project, I am appealing to the expert and newbie lists for a few
  brave souls who will test these packages.

Greg,

Thanks for packaging these. As with every version of Amarok I have tried, 
creating a collection causes the program to crash midway through the process. 
I have reported it, but it has been reported in the past and marded as 
'fixed'. Another suggestion was that the problem lay with taglib, and that an 
upgrade would fix it - but it didn't help in my case.

Anyone else having that problem?

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Re: [newbie] amaroK 1.2 final

2005-02-18 Thread Greg Meyer
On Friday 18 February 2005 07:32 am, Glenn wrote:
 On Thu February 17 2005 17:08, Glenn wrote:
  So far, that seems to have done the trick, Greg.  Up to 52% of the
  collection built so far, and no crash.  Thanks.
 
  Glenn

 Awesome app.  And I don't even have to keep futzing with MySQL, since
 sqlite is taking all the mp3s I can throw at it.  Loaded up ~200 songs to
 play last night, and it was still cranking through them this morning with
 nary a burp.

The devs did a lot of work to optimize sqlite, so now mysql is really only 
necessary for one thing, sharing collection between more tha one computer.  
The internal sqlite works great now, it seems just as fast for me.
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Re: [newbie] amaroK 1.2 final

2005-02-17 Thread Glenn
On Mon February 14 2005 18:05, Greg Meyer wrote:

 Does it work correctly with a new user?  If so, you might try removing or
 renaming the following files and directories, which will start over and
 lose all your stats, but might work.  Start with removing

 ~/.kde/share/config/amarokrc

 and then restart and see if that helps.  It will restore all of the
 defaults. 

So far, that seems to have done the trick, Greg.  Up to 52% of the collection 
built so far, and no crash.  Thanks.  

Glenn

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Re: [newbie] amaroK 1.2 final

2005-02-17 Thread Dan Gordon
On February 13, 2005 12:29 pm, Greg Meyer wrote:
 For anyone that have been using my beta packages of amaroK, I have
 test packages up for 1.2 final.  I have been testing all morning,
 and everything seems good, but before 1.2 final is officially
 announced by the amaroK team, they would like to see the packages
 tested more.  Since I am the only Mandrake user on the amaroK
 project, I am appealing to the expert and newbie lists for a few
 brave souls who will test these packages.

 http://www.gkmweb.com/amarok/10.1

 http://www.gkmweb.com/amarok/10.1/amarok-1.2-3.101mdk.i586.rpm
 http://www.gkmweb.com/amarok/10.1/libmusicbrainz4-2.1.1-3mdk.i586.rp
m
 http://www.gkmweb.com/amarok/10.1/libmusicbrainz4-devel-2.1.1-3mdk.i
586.rpm

 A few notes.
 - mysql is now a runtime option, so now there is only one package. 
 Both mysql and sqlite users can use the same package.  There is a
 configuration screen to select the database you wish to use.
 - when you first start this verson, it should drop your collection
 and rescan. This should not (and in fact did not here) screw up your
 stats. - There is a small update to libmusicbrainz, so grab those
 packages too, but libtunepimp and taglib did not change, so if you
 have been using my beta packages and have already installed them,
 you will only need libmuiscbrainz.

 Please let me know about any problems.

Well Greg I have been using this since you released it and so far no 
problems to report,  I'm not using any sql at all and it works like a 
charm.  Tomorrow I'm going to load my whole list and let it play 
random all day if that works without any problem then i will be 
convinced that this is the killer linux juke box app.
And thanks so much for the rpm's they have never given me any problem 
what so ever.

Regards,
Dan Gordon
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Re: [newbie] amaroK 1.2 final

2005-02-14 Thread Glenn
On Sun February 13 2005 10:56, Greg Meyer wrote:


 If you are trying to use mysql for the purpose of speed, you may want to
 try the sqlite again.  The devs did some major optimizations of the sqlite
 engine and it is very fast now.

 Also, with respect to mysql, you need to create an empty database called
 amarok first, then load amarok and tell it to use mysql.

I thought sqlite was choking on the amount of mp3s I was asking it to read in, 
so mysql was the alternative.  It turns out that might not be the problem, 
since mysql hasn't been able to do it either since the 2nd beta, and the 
final merely disappears about 30 secs after it begins re-building the 
collection, no matter whether I use mysql or sqlite.

The main problem for me now, with respect to mysql, is that I can't tell 
whether it's actually running or not.  The service is running, according to 
MCC, but webmin is not seeing mysql as active, nor startable via mysql 
start.   I think I might need to research mysql a bit further.

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Re: [newbie] amaroK 1.2 final

2005-02-14 Thread Greg Meyer
On Monday 14 February 2005 06:18 pm, Glenn wrote:
  Also, with respect to mysql, you need to create an empty database called
  amarok first, then load amarok and tell it to use mysql.

 I thought sqlite was choking on the amount of mp3s I was asking it to read
 in, so mysql was the alternative.  It turns out that might not be the
 problem, since mysql hasn't been able to do it either since the 2nd beta,
 and the final merely disappears about 30 secs after it begins re-building
 the collection, no matter whether I use mysql or sqlite.

Does it work correctly with a new user?  If so, you might try removing or 
renaming the following files and directories, which will start over and lose 
all your stats, but might work.  Start with removing

~/.kde/share/config/amarokrc

and then restart and see if that helps.  It will restore all of the defaults.  
If that doesn't work, you can remove all the amarok data files by getting rid 
of this directory:

~/.kde/share/apps/amarok

 The main problem for me now, with respect to mysql, is that I can't tell
 whether it's actually running or not.  The service is running, according to
 MCC, but webmin is not seeing mysql as active, nor startable via mysql
 start.   I think I might need to research mysql a bit further.

Sounds like you don't have everything you need installed.  Can you post the 
output of 'rpm -qa | grep -i mysql'
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[newbie] amaroK 1.2 final

2005-02-13 Thread Greg Meyer
For anyone that have been using my beta packages of amaroK, I have test 
packages up for 1.2 final.  I have been testing all morning, and everything 
seems good, but before 1.2 final is officially announced by the amaroK team, 
they would like to see the packages tested more.  Since I am the only 
Mandrake user on the amaroK project, I am appealing to the expert and newbie 
lists for a few brave souls who will test these packages.

http://www.gkmweb.com/amarok/10.1

http://www.gkmweb.com/amarok/10.1/amarok-1.2-3.101mdk.i586.rpm
http://www.gkmweb.com/amarok/10.1/libmusicbrainz4-2.1.1-3mdk.i586.rpm
http://www.gkmweb.com/amarok/10.1/libmusicbrainz4-devel-2.1.1-3mdk.i586.rpm

A few notes.  
- mysql is now a runtime option, so now there is only one package.  Both mysql 
and sqlite users can use the same package.  There is a configuration screen 
to select the database you wish to use.
- when you first start this verson, it should drop your collection and rescan.  
This should not (and in fact did not here) screw up your stats.
- There is a small update to libmusicbrainz, so grab those packages too, but 
libtunepimp and taglib did not change, so if you have been using my beta 
packages and have already installed them, you will only need libmuiscbrainz.

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Re: [newbie] amaroK 1.2 final

2005-02-13 Thread Glenn
On Sun February 13 2005 10:29, Greg Meyer wrote:
 For anyone that have been using my beta packages of amaroK, I have test
 packages up for 1.2 final.  I have been testing all morning, and everything
 seems good, but before 1.2 final is officially announced by the amaroK
 team, they would like to see the packages tested more.  Since I am the only
 Mandrake user on the amaroK project, I am appealing to the expert and
 newbie lists for a few brave souls who will test these packages.


Greg;
I've been downloading the packages from your site since beta2 (which was 
the last one that didn't misbehave for me g.)  I'm having some major fits 
getting mysql running correctly, though, so I'm not surprised that I'm having 
problems.  I'll give the final a try.  Thanks for packaging these up for us.

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Re: [newbie] amaroK 1.2 final

2005-02-13 Thread Greg Meyer
On Sunday 13 February 2005 12:42 pm, Glenn wrote:
 On Sun February 13 2005 10:29, Greg Meyer wrote:
  For anyone that have been using my beta packages of amaroK, I have test
  packages up for 1.2 final.  I have been testing all morning, and
  everything seems good, but before 1.2 final is officially announced by
  the amaroK team, they would like to see the packages tested more.  Since
  I am the only Mandrake user on the amaroK project, I am appealing to the
  expert and newbie lists for a few brave souls who will test these
  packages.

 Greg;
     I've been downloading the packages from your site since beta2 (which
 was the last one that didn't misbehave for me g.)  I'm having some major
 fits getting mysql running correctly, though, so I'm not surprised that I'm
 having problems.  I'll give the final a try.  Thanks for packaging these up
 for us.

If you are trying to use mysql for the purpose of speed, you may want to try 
the sqlite again.  The devs did some major optimizations of the sqlite engine 
and it is very fast now.

Also, with respect to mysql, you need to create an empty database called 
amarok first, then load amarok and tell it to use mysql.
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Re: [newbie] amaroK 1.2 final

2005-02-13 Thread RickSisler
Greg Meyer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 For anyone that have been using my beta packages of amaroK, I have test 
 packages up for 1.2 final.  I have been testing all morning, and everything 
 seems good, but before 1.2 final is officially announced by the amaroK team, 
 they would like to see the packages tested more.  Since I am the only 
 Mandrake user on the amaroK project, I am appealing to the expert and newbie 
 lists for a few brave souls who will test these packages.
 
 http://www.gkmweb.com/amarok/10.1
 
 http://www.gkmweb.com/amarok/10.1/amarok-1.2-3.101mdk.i586.rpm
 http://www.gkmweb.com/amarok/10.1/libmusicbrainz4-2.1.1-3mdk.i586.rpm
 http://www.gkmweb.com/amarok/10.1/libmusicbrainz4-devel-2.1.1-3mdk.i586.rpm
 
 A few notes.  
 - mysql is now a runtime option, so now there is only one package.  Both 
 mysql 
 and sqlite users can use the same package.  There is a configuration screen 
 to select the database you wish to use.
 - when you first start this verson, it should drop your collection and 
 rescan.  
 This should not (and in fact did not here) screw up your stats.
 - There is a small update to libmusicbrainz, so grab those packages too, but 
 libtunepimp and taglib did not change, so if you have been using my beta 
 packages and have already installed them, you will only need libmuiscbrainz.
 
 Please let me know about any problems.
 -- 
 /g
Hi Greg, Thx for pkg'ing these, seems to work fine !

What output engine do you guys recommend ? I have all of my files as
mp3. aRts works with no problems, but I was just curious 8)

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Re: [newbie] amaroK 1.2 final

2005-02-13 Thread Greg Meyer
On Sunday 13 February 2005 01:25 pm, RickSisler wrote:

 Hi Greg, Thx for pkg'ing these, seems to work fine !

 What output engine do you guys recommend ? I have all of my files as
 mp3. aRts works with no problems, but I was just curious 8)

My personal preference is xine because it handles streams better, but 
crossfading doesn't work with xine, so if you like crossfading, gstreamer is 
the way to go.  If you can get dmix going, which is a way to do software 
mixing without apps like arts, you can have amaroK use xine or gst and still 
leave arts running for systems notifications and stuff.
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Re: [newbie] amaroK 1.2 final

2005-02-13 Thread RickSisler
Greg Meyer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Sunday 13 February 2005 01:25 pm, RickSisler wrote:
 
  Hi Greg, Thx for pkg'ing these, seems to work fine !
 
  What output engine do you guys recommend ? I have all of my files as
  mp3. aRts works with no problems, but I was just curious 8)
 
 My personal preference is xine because it handles streams better, but 
 crossfading doesn't work with xine, so if you like crossfading, gstreamer is 
 the way to go.  If you can get dmix going, which is a way to do software 
 mixing without apps like arts, you can have amaroK use xine or gst and still 
 leave arts running for systems notifications and stuff.
 -- 
 /g
Thx Greg, switched to xine, crossfading is ok, but I can live
without it. Kinda wanted to get away from aRts since I don't run
KDE. Running Fluxbox actually, and I was using Juk, tho' now being a convert
to amarok, it reminds me of Musicmatch .. on the other OS. 
They did a nice job on it, I like the cover manager, nice work ;)
Never had that before .. 

Have you used it to rip cd's or do you use Grip for that ?

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Re: [newbie] amaroK 1.2 final

2005-02-13 Thread Miark
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 14:19:10 -0500, RickSisler wrote:

 Thx Greg, switched to xine, crossfading is ok, but I can live
 without it. Kinda wanted to get away from aRts since I don't
 run KDE. 

Amarok itself is a KDE app. 

 Running Fluxbox actually, and I was using Juk, tho'
 now being a convert to amarok, it reminds me of Musicmatch ..
 on the other OS.  They did a nice job on it, I like the cover
 manager, nice work ;) Never had that before .. 

There's a plugin for XMMS that does the same thing... CD Cover
or something equally obvious, IIRC.

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Re: [newbie] amaroK 1.2 final

2005-02-13 Thread Greg Meyer
On Sunday 13 February 2005 02:19 pm, RickSisler wrote:
 Greg Meyer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  On Sunday 13 February 2005 01:25 pm, RickSisler wrote:
   Hi Greg, Thx for pkg'ing these, seems to work fine !
  
   What output engine do you guys recommend ? I have all of my files as
   mp3. aRts works with no problems, but I was just curious 8)
 
  My personal preference is xine because it handles streams better, but
  crossfading doesn't work with xine, so if you like crossfading, gstreamer
  is the way to go.  If you can get dmix going, which is a way to do
  software mixing without apps like arts, you can have amaroK use xine or
  gst and still leave arts running for systems notifications and stuff.
  --
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 Thx Greg, switched to xine, crossfading is ok, but I can live
 without it. Kinda wanted to get away from aRts since I don't run
 KDE. Running Fluxbox actually, and I was using Juk, tho' now being a
 convert to amarok, it reminds me of Musicmatch .. on the other OS.
 They did a nice job on it, I like the cover manager, nice work ;)
 Never had that before ..

amaroK is written to integrate with the KDE environment, but lots of people 
run it on flux, xfce or even gnome.  it requires libqt3 and kdelibs, but 
that's pretty much it.  The guys that developed it have created a really cool 
app that IMHO runs rings around anything else that currently exists.

 Have you used it to rip cd's or do you use Grip for that ?

amaroK is not capable of ripping ATM, and quite frankly, I have not found 
anything else to be Grip's equal for the job it does.

I am a big fan of do one thing and do it really well apps.  I really hate the 
tendency a lot of apps are starting to adopt to try and do everything.

There is some talk of making amaroK support video playback and I am not in 
favor of that.  amaroK shouldn't become an operating system, it should be the 
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Re: [newbie] amaroK 1.2 final

2005-02-13 Thread RickSisler
Greg Meyer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Sunday 13 February 2005 02:19 pm, RickSisler wrote:
  Greg Meyer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
   On Sunday 13 February 2005 01:25 pm, RickSisler wrote:
Hi Greg, Thx for pkg'ing these, seems to work fine !
   
What output engine do you guys recommend ? I have all of my files as
mp3. aRts works with no problems, but I was just curious 8)
  
   My personal preference is xine because it handles streams better, but
   crossfading doesn't work with xine, so if you like crossfading, gstreamer
   is the way to go.  If you can get dmix going, which is a way to do
   software mixing without apps like arts, you can have amaroK use xine or
   gst and still leave arts running for systems notifications and stuff.
   --
   /g
 
  Thx Greg, switched to xine, crossfading is ok, but I can live
  without it. Kinda wanted to get away from aRts since I don't run
  KDE. Running Fluxbox actually, and I was using Juk, tho' now being a
  convert to amarok, it reminds me of Musicmatch .. on the other OS.
  They did a nice job on it, I like the cover manager, nice work ;)
  Never had that before ..
 
 amaroK is written to integrate with the KDE environment, but lots of people 
 run it on flux, xfce or even gnome.  it requires libqt3 and kdelibs, but 
 that's pretty much it.  The guys that developed it have created a really cool 
 app that IMHO runs rings around anything else that currently exists.

I run a few KDE and gnome apps, but have grown accustomed to tweakin' Fluxbox 
and have my own themes, mainly color changes, even setup amarok to match the
current one ..

  Have you used it to rip cd's or do you use Grip for that ?
 
 amaroK is not capable of ripping ATM, and quite frankly, I have not found 
 anything else to be Grip's equal for the job it does.
 
 I am a big fan of do one thing and do it really well apps.  I really hate the 
 tendency a lot of apps are starting to adopt to try and do everything.
 
 There is some talk of making amaroK support video playback and I am not in 
 favor of that.  amaroK shouldn't become an operating system, it should be the 
 best audio player it can be.
 -- 
 /g
Yeah, I thought so and agree, it plays really well. You mean, like
music videos ? Hmm. no time or interest for that, so I don't
favor it either.

Grip has been it for me, for ripping, but I was, again, wondering. 
Thx again for pkg'ing these ..  cudo's to the Developers 8)
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Re: [newbie] amaroK 1.2 final

2005-02-13 Thread JR
The guys that developed it have created a really cool 
app that IMHO runs rings around anything else that currently exists.
I think so too. The streamed music is great if you want to hear something 
different. I havent listened to music on the radio in ages! I used to use a 
combination of players eg. xmms  / kaffeine / mplayer. Now I only use Amarok 
(for audio).

 There is some talk of making amaroK support video playback and I am not in
 favor of that.  amaroK shouldn't become an operating system, it should be
 the best audio player it can be.

I agree  totally. Projects that take this route generally fall down between 
two stools satisfying nobody really, and eventually being replaced with 
individual specialized apps.


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Re: [newbie] amaroK 1.2 final

2005-02-13 Thread RickSisler
Miark ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 14:19:10 -0500, RickSisler wrote:
 
  Thx Greg, switched to xine, crossfading is ok, but I can live
  without it. Kinda wanted to get away from aRts since I don't
  run KDE. 
 
 Amarok itself is a KDE app.
Yeah, thats why I like Mandrake, it's choices and integration of
different packages using these different environments.

 
  Running Fluxbox actually, and I was using Juk, tho'
  now being a convert to amarok, it reminds me of Musicmatch ..
  on the other OS.  They did a nice job on it, I like the cover
  manager, nice work ;) Never had that before .. 
 
 There's a plugin for XMMS that does the same thing... CD Cover
 or something equally obvious, IIRC.

Yeah, I've used xmms also and I have some really cools skins for it,
like a Marshall cabinet and stack amp, but it was spikin the cpu
when it was iconified, so I moved to juk. 
Anyway, I like amarok, gonna keep playing it.. thx for the tip ;)

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