Re: [newbie] Antivirus for 10.1

2005-03-04 Thread Rosemary McGillicuddy
On Thursday 03 Mar 2005 21:16, Dennis wrote:
 Thanks Kasper
 ---
 Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Registered Linux User #382526
 - Original Message -
 From: Kasper Thunoe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
 Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 4:02 PM
 Subject: Re: [newbie] Antivirus for 10.1

  snip
 
  How necessary is virus protection in linux - keep getting conflicting
  info
  about this?
 
  Thanks
  Rosemary
 
  /snip
 
  Depends on how much you interact with windows :) There are viruses for
  linux which mostly come in the form of rootkits. This is more a backdoor
  than it is a virus, and the attacker would need to have access on a
  superuser level. Some claim to have made linux worms which is more
  virus-like, but the chance of running on to one of those is slim to
  none.
  The best one can do is to keep ones system up to date, especially if you
  allow external access (ssh, ftp, www etc.), and delete mail from people
  you dont know.
 
  For my part I dualboot and have other windows machines in my home
  network so I use antivirus (clamav) on linux as a precaution, and to
  check mails.
 
  Hope that gives you an idea.
 
  /Kasper

Now that  I have internet access within Mandrake, not using windows for that 
at all, so guess that reduces the risk considerably!  

Seems as though I don't need to worry too much at present.
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Re: [newbie] Antivirus for 10.1

2005-03-04 Thread Rosemary McGillicuddy
On Thursday 03 Mar 2005 23:02, riccardo wrote:
 On Thursday 03 March 2005 07:41 am, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote:
  How necessary is virus protection in linux

 _

  Ones purpose may be prophylactic [ greek word for 'preventive' ]~ to
 prevent accidental transmission of virus, perhaps, by inadvertently
 'forwarding' an infected message.

  For this purpose one may edit 'crontab' and add a tiny script, to run a
 scan on ones Mail directories.

   crontab -e [ will open crontab, in vim, so one can 
 add/delete at
 will ]

 For this purpose, my CRON Daemon runs F-PROT each hour, to scan my Mail
 directories.

 best rgds

Is that a kind of script a simple newbie like me can use?  :-)

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Re: [newbie] Antivirus for 10.1

2005-03-04 Thread Rosemary McGillicuddy
On Friday 04 Mar 2005 17:54, SigmaX wrote:
 On Thursday 03 March 2005 07:41 am, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote:
  How necessary is virus protection in linux

 Not very.  There are very few viruses or worms that are out there (That
 work) for UNIX-based  systems.  It's reported that there has never been
 a successful virus written for Mac OS X.  Not to say they don't exist
 (Spyware/Addware is even less of a worry, as almost all OSS is devoid of
 it). Your greatest worry is recieving a virus for Windows that you
 accidentally forward on to Windows-users in emails.
 SigmaX


That problem minimised to almost non-existant I hope, as now using Mandrake 
for all internet access.

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Re: [newbie] Antivirus for 10.1

2005-03-03 Thread Kasper Thunoe
snip
 
 How necessary is virus protection in linux - keep getting conflicting info 
 about this?
 
 Thanks
 Rosemary
 
/snip

Depends on how much you interact with windows :) There are viruses for
linux which mostly come in the form of rootkits. This is more a backdoor
than it is a virus, and the attacker would need to have access on a
superuser level. Some claim to have made linux worms which is more
virus-like, but the chance of running on to one of those is slim to
none. 
The best one can do is to keep ones system up to date, especially if you
allow external access (ssh, ftp, www etc.), and delete mail from people
you dont know.

For my part I dualboot and have other windows machines in my home
network so I use antivirus (clamav) on linux as a precaution, and to
check mails.

Hope that gives you an idea.

/Kasper



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Re: [newbie] Antivirus for 10.1

2005-03-03 Thread Dennis
Thanks Kasper
---
Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Registered Linux User #382526
- Original Message - 
From: Kasper Thunoe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Antivirus for 10.1


snip
How necessary is virus protection in linux - keep getting conflicting 
info
about this?

Thanks
Rosemary
/snip
Depends on how much you interact with windows :) There are viruses for
linux which mostly come in the form of rootkits. This is more a backdoor
than it is a virus, and the attacker would need to have access on a
superuser level. Some claim to have made linux worms which is more
virus-like, but the chance of running on to one of those is slim to
none.
The best one can do is to keep ones system up to date, especially if you
allow external access (ssh, ftp, www etc.), and delete mail from people
you dont know.
For my part I dualboot and have other windows machines in my home
network so I use antivirus (clamav) on linux as a precaution, and to
check mails.
Hope that gives you an idea.
/Kasper





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Re: [newbie] Antivirus for 10.1

2005-03-03 Thread riccardo
On Thursday 03 March 2005 07:41 am, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote:
 How necessary is virus protection in linux
_

 Ones purpose may be prophylactic [ greek word for 'preventive' ]~ to 
prevent accidental transmission of virus, perhaps, by inadvertently 
'forwarding' an infected message.

 For this purpose one may edit 'crontab' and add a tiny script, to run a 
scan on ones Mail directories.

crontab -e [ will open crontab, in vim, so one can 
add/delete at 
will ]

For this purpose, my CRON Daemon runs F-PROT each hour, to scan my Mail 
directories.

best rgds





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Re: [newbie] Antivirus for 10.1

2005-03-03 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Thursday 03 March 2005 02:41, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote:

 How necessary is virus protection in linux - keep getting conflicting info
 about this?

Much better in Linux to focus on updating your packages, getting patches for 
vulnerabilities and keeping a general watch on security versus wasting time 
with phantom viruses.

Now, if you have windows clients, it can be very useful to run an AV app to 
scan their messages for viruses to keep them from getting compromised.  Most 
of us that run AV do it for that purpose.

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Re: [newbie] Antivirus for 10.1

2005-03-03 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
riccardo wrote:
On Thursday 03 March 2005 07:41 am, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote:
How necessary is virus protection in linux
_
 Ones purpose may be prophylactic [ greek word for 'preventive' ]~ to 
prevent accidental transmission of virus, perhaps, by inadvertently 
'forwarding' an infected message.

 For this purpose one may edit 'crontab' and add a tiny script, to run a 
scan on ones Mail directories.

  crontab -e [ will open crontab, in vim, so one can add/delete at will ]
For this purpose, my CRON Daemon runs F-PROT each hour, to scan my Mail 
directories.

best rgds

If you don't like using vim, you can set EDITOR to your editor of 
choice, and that will be used for commands like crontab, vipw, vigr, etc.

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Re: [newbie] Antivirus for 10.1

2005-03-03 Thread riccardo
On Thursday 03 March 2005 04:52 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
 If you don't like using vim, you can set EDITOR to your editor of
 choice
_

JOE [joe] is nice ~ similar to WordStar, i believe.

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Re: [newbie] Antivirus for 10.1

2005-03-03 Thread et
On Thursday 03 March 2005 12:59 pm, riccardo wrote:
 On Thursday 03 March 2005 04:52 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
  If you don't like using vim, you can set EDITOR to your editor of
  choice

 _

   JOE [joe] is nice ~ similar to WordStar, i believe.

 best rgds
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Re: [newbie] Antivirus for 10.1

2005-03-03 Thread SigmaX
On Thursday 03 March 2005 07:41 am, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote:

How necessary is virus protection in linux 

Not very.  There are very few viruses or worms that are out there (That 
work) for UNIX-based  systems.  It's reported that there has never been 
a successful virus written for Mac OS X.  Not to say they don't exist 
(Spyware/Addware is even less of a worry, as almost all OSS is devoid of 
it). Your greatest worry is recieving a virus for Windows that you 
accidentally forward on to Windows-users in emails.
SigmaX

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[newbie] Antivirus for 10.1

2005-03-02 Thread Dennis



Where can I download a free antivirus software for 
MandrakeLinux 10.1?

---Dennis "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"Registered Linux 
User #382526


Re: [newbie] Antivirus for 10.1

2005-03-02 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Dennis wrote:
Where can I download a free antivirus software for MandrakeLinux 10.1?
 
What are you looking for? Something runs under Linux to scan your 
Windows partition, or something for a mail server to scan email 
attachments? Or are you looking for something to scan your Linux system?

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Re: [newbie] Antivirus for 10.1

2005-03-02 Thread Dennis
To scan both my Linux System and Windows..
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To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 1:11 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Antivirus for 10.1


Dennis wrote:
Where can I download a free antivirus software for MandrakeLinux 10.1?
What are you looking for? Something runs under Linux to scan your
Windows partition, or something for a mail server to scan email
attachments? Or are you looking for something to scan your Linux system?
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Re: [newbie] Antivirus for 10.1

2005-03-02 Thread Dennis Myers
On Wednesday 02 March 2005 11:20 pm, Dennis wrote:
 To scan both my Linux System and Windows..

 ---
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 - Original Message -
 From: Mikkel L. Ellertson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
 Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 1:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [newbie] Antivirus for 10.1

  Dennis wrote:
  Where can I download a free antivirus software for MandrakeLinux 10.1?
 
  What are you looking for? Something runs under Linux to scan your
  Windows partition, or something for a mail server to scan email
  attachments? Or are you looking for something to scan your Linux system?
 
  Mikkel
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Re: [newbie] Antivirus for 10.1

2005-03-02 Thread Rob Blomquist
On Wednesday 02 March 2005 8:58 pm, Dennis wrote:
 Where can I download a free antivirus software for MandrakeLinux 10.1?

I have found that all virus emails are getting trapped with 
spamassassin/razor/pyzor working for me. 

Its like living in a spam free, virus free world.

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Re: [newbie] Antivirus for 10.1

2005-03-02 Thread riccardo
On Thursday 03 March 2005 04:58 am, Dennis wrote:
 Where can I download a free antivirus software for MandrakeLinux
 10.1?
_

 for home, non-commercial use : F-PROT


www.f-prot.com

 made in Iceland ~ very good  :)

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Re: [newbie] Antivirus for 10.1

2005-03-02 Thread Rosemary McGillicuddy
On Thursday 03 Mar 2005 18:32, Dennis Myers wrote:
 On Wednesday 02 March 2005 11:20 pm, Dennis wrote:
  To scan both my Linux System and Windows..
 
  ---
  Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Registered Linux User #382526
  - Original Message -
  From: Mikkel L. Ellertson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
  Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 1:11 PM
  Subject: Re: [newbie] Antivirus for 10.1
 
   Dennis wrote:
   Where can I download a free antivirus software for MandrakeLinux 10.1?
  
   What are you looking for? Something runs under Linux to scan your
   Windows partition, or something for a mail server to scan email
   attachments? Or are you looking for something to scan your Linux
   system?
  
   Mikkel
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 download clamav using urpmi. Works well for me.

How necessary is virus protection in linux - keep getting conflicting info 
about this?

Thanks
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[newbie] antivirus

2005-01-25 Thread Dave Needham
do i need antivirus checker and can any one suggest which one to run and is 
easy to install.

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Re: [newbie] antivirus

2005-01-25 Thread Kaj Haulrich
Dave Needham wrote:
do i need antivirus checker and can any one suggest which one to run and is 
easy to install.

dave
On Linux no anti virus is needed.  The one and only reason to run an 
anti virus app on Linux is this situation :  You use a Linux box as 
a mail server or relay to Windows boxes elsewhere.  Then you could 
propagate those viruses to them.  Linux itself is immune.

And, by the way, please blank out your reply to field.  If not, 
our answers go to you directly, not to this list.

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Re: [newbie] antivirus

2003-02-19 Thread Robert Golovniov
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Some time ago I heard some good words about the CLAM, which you may
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[newbie] antivirus

2003-02-18 Thread mohammad soroushian
Hi all,
Will anybody please tell me how can I find a reliable
antivirus for mandrake?
Thanks

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Re: [newbie] antivirus

2003-02-18 Thread Anne Wilson
On Tuesday 18 Feb 2003 6:55 am, mohammad soroushian wrote:
 Hi all,
 Will anybody please tell me how can I find a reliable
 antivirus for mandrake?

First it should be said that there are currently very few viruses that can 
affect a linux distribution, so from that point of view you probably don't 
need one.  The majority of viruses in the wild exploit vulnerabilities in M$ 
software and/or operating system.

The main reason for installing one under linux is to prevent infected 
mail/downloads coming in, then being relayed to unprotected windows machines.  
If this is your concern I can recommend Kaspersky - I use their software on 
all our windows machines.  It is not free software, but you get a full year's 
worth of signature updates, which are updated daily if you require that level 
of protection, and support if you ever run into trouble either with the 
software or a new virus.  If you want to explore this, go to

www.kaspersky.com

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Re: Re: [newbie] antivirus

2003-02-18 Thread Jim Dawson
What about running an antivirus program on a linux file server that is supporting 
Windows clients?

While it might not ever find any Linux viruses, scanning the shared file system for 
(Windows) viruses is a good idea even if the workstations have antivirus software 
installed. 

-Original Message-
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Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 06:00:03 -0900
Subject: Re: [newbie] antivirus

On Monday 17 February 2003 09:55 pm, mohammad soroushian wrote:
 Hi all,
 Will anybody please tell me how can I find a reliable
 antivirus for mandrake?
 Thanks

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Well, there are like 19 viruses for linux, and none of them can propagate 
unless you are terminally stupid and run as root.

Other exploits are handled by reading the security advisories and staying 
updated.

Windows is the built-in security problem.  Antiviruses for linux are usually
just scanners which watch email traffic and intercept Windows specific
viruses to keep the windows machines protected by a linux server.

An antivirus for linux is 98% snake oil.

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Re: [newbie] antivirus

2003-02-18 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Tue, 2003-02-18 at 17:55, mohammad soroushian wrote:
 Hi all,
 Will anybody please tell me how can I find a reliable
 antivirus for mandrake?
 Thanks
 

F-Prot, Panda, RAV, Kasperskyand more...

I use mainly F-Prot for the local file system because alot of machines
that I end up backing up to the server are from virus laden Windows
machines - so the files get a good cleaning when they're transferred to
the server storage area. I have a script that runs every hour for doing
a virus scan on network shared files - and run an update once every 24
hours for the DAT files. I use RAV for email - as this machine is the
email server for the house. Works like a charm. Use SpamAssassin as
well, along with a modified /etc/procmailrc to further filter nasties.

If you're just running a linux box, though, you really have now worries
at all about 98% of the time - but you might want to get a chkrootkit
to make sure that your local machine doesn't have any trojan nasties
lurking about.

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[newbie] Antivirus for Linux

2002-12-13 Thread Rifza Adriansyah
Hi everyone,
I read on magazine that the first virus was created is Elk Cloner. It 
is a virus for Unix. I am a little bit worried about virus threat in 
Linux. Because, I am just an end-user. I have downloaded  F-Prot and 
Antivir for Linux for non-commercial use. Which one is the best ?.
Thank you for your opinion. I am sorry if my English is bad. I am 
still learning English.

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Re: [newbie] Antivirus for Linux

2002-12-13 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Sat, 2002-12-14 at 13:41, Rifza Adriansyah wrote:
 Hi everyone,
 I read on magazine that the first virus was created is Elk Cloner. It 
 is a virus for Unix. I am a little bit worried about virus threat in 
 Linux. Because, I am just an end-user. I have downloaded  F-Prot and 
 Antivir for Linux for non-commercial use. Which one is the best ?.
 Thank you for your opinion. I am sorry if my English is bad. I am 
 still learning English.
 
 Rifza Adriansyah

You're doing just fine.
It's very rare for a linux system to get a bug. Really. Consider that
most bugs out there are written by young people that live in Windows.
They can't write bugs for linux because they're not familiar with the
OS; and it's significantly harder to write a program or a script to harm
a linux (or other unix) machine - best way to hurt a linux box is
directly attacking the ports with DoD/DoS and other port jamming
strategies...IF they work...

So, all in all, you don't have much to worry about. Enjoy linux.

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RE: [newbie] Antivirus software

2002-08-04 Thread franki

trend made a filescan product for linux and its been free for ages..

it has caught every windows virus that has been sent to it.. including klez
and nimba..

uses the same update files as the rest of their products.


rgds

Frank

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Antivirus software


On Saturday 03 Aug 2002 12:47 am, you wrote:
 On Friday 02 August 2002 12:56 pm, you wrote:
  From time to time people have asked about antivirus, and I would like to
  offer the following as my experience that may be relevant.
 
  In Windows I have used Kaspersky, first as a stand-alone, then, with
help
  from their tech support, set up in such a way that I downloaded the
  regular updates and my client machines simply downloaded the files from
  my computer to theirs.
 
  Since spending most of my time in Linux I began to resent having to go
  into Windows each Saturday to get the files, so I again approached their
  tech support.  It took a couple of tries to explain the problem
(remember
  they are Russian) but I got a very clear instruction to duplicate my
  previous Windows setup - with three ways of achieving it - true Linux
  style :-).
 
  This guy obviously knew his Linux (they do a Linux AV product, though I
  haven't bought it yet), making specific references to wget and squid.
 
  They also have a very useful viruslist page, worth checking when friends
  think they've got that grey bear thingy.
 
  If it's of any interest to you they are found at www.kaspersky.com.  Try
  also www.viruslist.com.
 
  Anne

 There is a company called Sophos who have av software for Windows, Linux,
 DOS, etc.

 I think the URL is www.sophos.com.

 You can get a 30-day trial that never expires from there. If you like it,
 then you buy it or stop using it.

I'm sure there are others - the only reason I mention KAV is the speed and
quality of their service.  I can't speak for others, who may also be good.

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RE: [newbie] Antivirus software

2002-08-04 Thread frankie

Here is some info I wrote about 15 months or more ago,, I posted it on both
the newbie and expert pages...

hope it helps.


rgds


Frank


I have just swapped to trend viruscan for linux...

I thought I'd mention all the links and stuff, so that people can search the
archives here if they want to know how it is done.

Here is the url to download it,

ftp://ftp.antivirus.com/products/freetools/

(the address listed in the openantivirus readme didn't work for me, but
this one did...
download filescanlinux.tar (when you untar it, it has install instructions
and a pdf file)


If the scanner install gives you a message that it wont' install because you
don't have redhat release 6, (and you do have a modern linux)I got that
message with mandrake 7.2 onwards, edit /etc/issue (create it if you don't
already
have one, go into /etc and type 'touch issue') and put the words release 6
in it somewhere, you can delete it after install. (thats how the install
program works out what version of linux you have) pretty lame method thinks
me, but its a good thing that its lame if you don't have redhat.

I have it working flawlessly on Mandrake and I don't think there would be
much problem getting it working on other distro's.

Here is the link to get the latest engine update, (the version I have now is
Virus Scanner v3.1)

http://www.antivirus.com/download/engines/

Go to the Interscan viruswall table and look in the linux box.
download that tarball.

open the tarball, and copy the file in it into /etc/iscan, overwrite the
file of the same name that's in there.(it might not be a bad idea to backup
the old one in case there are problems.)

thats your engine updated to their latest version.


If for some reason the web manager pattern update feature doesn't work, (it
didn't for me, think its a isp problem, we have a strange proxy.,)
go here: http://www.antivirus.com/download/pattern.asp
choose the linux tarball and you have the latest pattern file.

Thats it,, This is a very comprhensive scanner for a freebie... much better
then the network associates vscan I was using before,,, (admitadly an old
version).

-Original Message-
From: mike [mailto:mike]On Behalf Of mike
Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 8:46 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Antivirus software


franki wrote:

 trend made a filescan product for linux and its been free for ages..

 it has caught every windows virus that has been sent to it.. including
klez
 and nimba..

 uses the same update files as the rest of their products.

 rgds

 Frank


what's the URL to get it?

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[newbie] Antivirus software

2002-08-02 Thread Anne Wilson

From time to time people have asked about antivirus, and I would like to 
offer the following as my experience that may be relevant.

In Windows I have used Kaspersky, first as a stand-alone, then, with help 
from their tech support, set up in such a way that I downloaded the regular 
updates and my client machines simply downloaded the files from my computer 
to theirs.

Since spending most of my time in Linux I began to resent having to go into 
Windows each Saturday to get the files, so I again approached their tech 
support.  It took a couple of tries to explain the problem (remember they are 
Russian) but I got a very clear instruction to duplicate my previous Windows 
setup - with three ways of achieving it - true Linux style :-).

This guy obviously knew his Linux (they do a Linux AV product, though I 
haven't bought it yet), making specific references to wget and squid.

They also have a very useful viruslist page, worth checking when friends 
think they've got that grey bear thingy.

If it's of any interest to you they are found at www.kaspersky.com.  Try also 
www.viruslist.com.

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Re: [newbie] Antivirus software

2002-08-02 Thread et

On Friday 02 August 2002 12:56 pm, you wrote:
 From time to time people have asked about antivirus, and I would like to
 offer the following as my experience that may be relevant.

 In Windows I have used Kaspersky, first as a stand-alone, then, with help
 from their tech support, set up in such a way that I downloaded the regular
 updates and my client machines simply downloaded the files from my computer
 to theirs.

 Since spending most of my time in Linux I began to resent having to go into
 Windows each Saturday to get the files, so I again approached their tech
 support.  It took a couple of tries to explain the problem (remember they
 are Russian) but I got a very clear instruction to duplicate my previous
 Windows setup - with three ways of achieving it - true Linux style :-).

 This guy obviously knew his Linux (they do a Linux AV product, though I
 haven't bought it yet), making specific references to wget and squid.
I have the 8.2 prosuite, and it has KAV.



 They also have a very useful viruslist page, worth checking when friends
 think they've got that grey bear thingy.

 If it's of any interest to you they are found at www.kaspersky.com.  Try
 also www.viruslist.com.

 Anne



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Re: [newbie] antivirus

2002-04-19 Thread Robin Turner

On Friday 19 April 2002 08:48, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:


 Estimated number of computer viruses in 1990:

 200-500

 Estimated minimum number of computer viruses in 2000:

 50,

 Total number of reported Linux viruses:

 1

Was that a real virus, or a worm in virus clothing?

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Re: [newbie] antivirus

2002-04-19 Thread shane

On Thursday 18 April 2002 22:48, Lyvim Xaphir opened a general hailing 
frequency and transmitted to all open stations:

 The punchline is that Microshaft is responsible for all virus damages.

 OK, now that you are fully prepared, go read this:

 http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/134438173_passpo
rt18.html

interestingly in a recent survey only 12% of passport users trust MS with 
finance info.

but your identity.  they can have that.

good to see the government doesn't have a problem using a company that the 
are in court with, and who lied in that court (later admitted) for 
multi-billion $ projects.

i can't for headlines like identy theft worm uses known IE exploit to steal 
entire life 

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Re: [newbie] antivirus

2002-04-19 Thread Damian G

On Fri, 19 Apr 2002 09:18:11 -0700
shane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thursday 18 April 2002 22:48, Lyvim Xaphir opened a general hailing 
 frequency and transmitted to all open stations:
 
  The punchline is that Microshaft is responsible for all virus damages.
 
  OK, now that you are fully prepared, go read this:
 
  http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/134438173_passpo
 rt18.html
 
 interestingly in a recent survey only 12% of passport users trust MS with 
 finance info.
 
 but your identity.  they can have that.
 
 good to see the government doesn't have a problem using a company that the 
 are in court with, and who lied in that court (later admitted) for 
 multi-billion $ projects.
 
 i can't for headlines like identy theft worm uses known IE exploit to steal 
 entire life 

i honestly can't believe it's going that far...

i may have smoked a bit too much grass, but it's not hard anymore to imagine
a country turning into an empire...

Damian



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Re: [newbie] antivirus

2002-04-19 Thread Michael

Damian G wrote:
 
 On Fri, 19 Apr 2002 09:18:11 -0700
 shane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Thursday 18 April 2002 22:48, Lyvim Xaphir opened a general hailing
  frequency and transmitted to all open stations:
 
   The punchline is that Microshaft is responsible for all virus damages.
  
   OK, now that you are fully prepared, go read this:
  
   http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/134438173_passpo
  rt18.html
 
  interestingly in a recent survey only 12% of passport users trust MS with
  finance info.
 
  but your identity.  they can have that.
 
  good to see the government doesn't have a problem using a company that the
  are in court with, and who lied in that court (later admitted) for
  multi-billion $ projects.
 
  i can't for headlines like identy theft worm uses known IE exploit to steal
  entire life
 
 i honestly can't believe it's going that far...
 
 i may have smoked a bit too much grass, but it's not hard anymore to imagine
 a country turning into an empire...
 
 Damian
 

LOL, you can just here the announced introduction at Windsor Castle King
William and Countess Gates of the United Monarchy of America.

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[newbie] antivirus

2002-04-18 Thread Ron Grace



one more question are most of you runnig antivirus 
with linux? and if so which one 


Re: [newbie] antivirus

2002-04-18 Thread Robin Turner

On Friday 19 April 2002 00:25, Ron Grace wrote:
 one more question are most of you runnig antivirus with linux? and if so
 which one

Antivirus software is only really necessary for Linux servers which are used 
for sharing MS documents (e.g. Word files) which can be infected.  For normal 
workstation purposes, a good firewall is adequate protection (setting 
Mandrake security to medium will do this).

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Re: [newbie] antivirus

2002-04-18 Thread shane

On Thursday 18 April 2002 14:25, Ron Grace opened a general hailing 
frequency and transmitted to all open stations:

 one more question are most of you runnig antivirus with linux? and if so
 which one

yes i am, i am running linux, with no MS apps through wine.  nothing beats 
it.

did anyone else read that the lindows release was so MS compatable it 
includes running your most viruses (virii?  something plurel) right there 
in linux?  thanks no..

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Re: [newbie] antivirus

2002-04-18 Thread Lyvim Xaphir

On Thu, 2002-04-18 at 17:25, Ron Grace wrote:
 one more question are most of you runnig antivirus with linux?
and if so which one   

Quoted from Linux Journal, April 2002:

__

Estimated number of computer viruses in 1990:

200-500

Estimated minimum number of computer viruses in 2000:

50,

Total number of reported Linux viruses:

1

Cost in billions of dollars in virus damages by September 2001:

10.7



The punchline is that Microshaft is responsible for all virus damages.  

OK, now that you are fully prepared, go read this:

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/134438173_passport18.html


L8R,

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[newbie] Antivirus

2002-03-12 Thread Donald E.Gulmire

I am new to Linux, just getting familiar with installing software and command 
lines.  What is a good Antivirus program to use with Linux? Are there any 
freeware ones that are worth using?  Thanks in advance!



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Re: [newbie] Antivirus

2002-03-12 Thread Metamorphysical

I didn't think you need an antivirus for Linux.
- Original Message -
From: Donald E.Gulmire [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 6:46 AM
Subject: [newbie] Antivirus


 I am new to Linux, just getting familiar with installing software and
command
 lines.  What is a good Antivirus program to use with Linux? Are there any
 freeware ones that are worth using?  Thanks in advance!








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Re: [newbie] Antivirus

2002-03-12 Thread quaylar

At 06:46 12.03.2002 -0500, you wrote:
I am new to Linux, just getting familiar with installing software and command
lines.  What is a good Antivirus program to use with Linux? Are there any
freeware ones that are worth using?  Thanks in advance!

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hi,

in general - u dont need an antivir-scanner for linux because there arent 
really lots of linux-viruses.
but u can - of course use your linux box to scan for windows viruses.

personally i have a linux server, running avmailgate from www.antivir.de 
which scans all incoming email
for windows viruses before they can reach my windows box behind.

so that would be a task for an antivir-program under linux ;)

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Re: [newbie] Antivirus

2002-03-12 Thread quaylar

At 06:46 12.03.2002 -0500, you wrote:
I am new to Linux, just getting familiar with installing software and command
lines.  What is a good Antivirus program to use with Linux? Are there any
freeware ones that are worth using?  Thanks in advance!

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hi,

in general - u dont need an antivir-scanner for linux because there arent 
really lots of linux-viruses.
but u can - of course use your linux box to scan for windows viruses.

personally i have a linux server, running avmailgate from www.antivir.de 
which scans all incoming email
for windows viruses before they can reach my windows box behind.

so that would be a task for an antivir-program under linux ;)

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RE: [newbie] Antivirus

2002-03-12 Thread Barran, Richard

Ok, a slightly more elaborate response from someone who's recently come over
to Linux, asked himself the same question, and eventually figured out a kind
of answer :)

There is nothing magical about Linux that makes it immune to viruses (this
will probably put me on loads of hate-mail lists). 
Viruses get into your average PC through two routes:

1/ you get a game/application off your mate/from a warez website/whatever
and install it. It contains a virus which you unwittingly install. This is
more difficult on Linux than with Windows, for various reasons, but I'll
give you just one: as Linux is a small community, people tend to know one
another. If a website put up a number of applications that were
deliberately infected, it wouldn't take long for the word to get round.

2/ you receive an infected email. This route relies heavily on Microsoft
Outlook's weaknesses, combined with non-techy users. With Outlook you can
install and run an infected email attachment with just a click. This is just
not possible with Linux, due to the way new applications get installed.

A final point is to think of computer viruses as being like biological
viruses: they spread easier in a large target population that's in regular
contact with other members and doesn't pay enough attention to hand-washing.
At the moment that's the Windows world.
Linux is like John the Baptist, all alone in the desert ;-)

I wouldn't bet that when Linux takes over the world there won't be loads of
Linux viruses around... 

PS As an aside, would it *theoretically* be possible to transmit a virus
through an infected RPM?


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 Sent: 12 March 2002 12:00
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 Subject: Re: [newbie] Antivirus
 
 
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 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 6:46 AM
 Subject: [newbie] Antivirus
 
 
  I am new to Linux, just getting familiar with installing 
 software and
 command
  lines.  What is a good Antivirus program to use with Linux? 
 Are there any
  freeware ones that are worth using?  Thanks in advance!
 
 

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Re: [newbie] Antivirus

2002-03-12 Thread Gerald Waugh

On Tue, 12 Mar 2002, Metamorphysical wrote:
 %_I didn't think you need an antivirus for Linux.
UNLESS it is a mailserver for Windows boxes!!!
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Re: [newbie] Antivirus

2002-03-12 Thread Damian Gatabria


 There is nothing magical about Linux that makes it immune to viruses (this
 will probably put me on loads of hate-mail lists).
 Viruses get into your average PC through two routes:
 I wouldn't bet that when Linux takes over the world there won't be loads of
 Linux viruses around...

i think it would be at least harder to do that than in windoze...


 PS As an aside, would it *theoretically* be possible to transmit a virus
 through an infected RPM?
well, of course, cause in general you have to be root to use rpm, but other 
than installations and such, i think it would be pretty hard to make a linux
virus. as far as i see it, linux will never see the kind of virus that, for 
example, resides in the boot sector of a floppy disk, like many i've seen in 
windows... linux virii are possible, but the posibilities are more limited.

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Re: [newbie] Antivirus

2002-03-12 Thread Randy Kramer

If anyone needs extra confirmation that virii are possible under Linux,
you might want to pay attention to a thread going on this week over on
the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail list.  Someone has written a Virus HOWTO
for Linux, and the maillist is discussing whether they should publish
it.

The discussion is all in good taste, with points being made related to
not attempting to achieve security through obscurity and so forth.

Here's an excerpt from a post by David Merrill (actually, I quoted
almost the entire post):

quote
Okay, there's disagreement on the Virus HOWTO. Here's what we'll do.
Alexander, you post your html on your website, or let me know and I'll
post it on mine.

Everyone interested in resolving the issue will read the document.
If you haven't read it, you can't offer an intelligent opinion.

Then, we can discuss the *specific* problems, if any, and find
solutions. As things stand, there is enough disagreement that we
should not publish it as is, but should not abandon it either. We
should identify any specific problems, Alexander will deal with them,
and we can move on. Please? :-)

We cannot expose the LDP to legal risks. That means we need a
strong disclaimer and an orientation that is at least equally about
protection, IMO. And there is strong sentiment from some people that
we *not* publish something primarily oriented toward helping black
hats. Alexander, if you're comfortable with making sure it doesn't
read that way, I think we will have little or no resistance to
publishing it.

-- 
David C. Merrill
/quote

Randy Kramer

Barran, Richard wrote:
 
 Ok, a slightly more elaborate response from someone who's recently come over
 to Linux, asked himself the same question, and eventually figured out a kind
 of answer :)
 
 There is nothing magical about Linux that makes it immune to viruses (this
 will probably put me on loads of hate-mail lists).
 Viruses get into your average PC through two routes:



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[newbie] Antivirus for Linux?

2001-11-02 Thread Carlos Jimenez Z.

I read that it's not necessary to install an antivirus for Linux. Is that 
true? And if it wasn't, what's the best antivirus?



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Re: [newbie] Antivirus for Linux?

2001-11-02 Thread Gary Traffanstedt


As long as you don't run everything as root, or change the ownership of all 
your files to a common user, you should be safe. Linux is not vulnerable like 
Windows due to a bit of common sense during the design stage. Note that 
Macintosh systems are not as vulnerable as Windows either. The MS way of 
thinking is If you can't make it good, make it look good. They don't care 
what goes in the box, as long as the box is pretty and will make them a quick 
buck.
Security is very important in the Linux world. A lot of effort goes into 
making sure that the programs you use are secure and are not easily 
exploitable. Developers help this effort by making their program open source 
so that others may review their code and find any trouble spots that they may 
have overlooked.
That being said, Linux is vulnerable to other types of security problems, 
but there are a lot of things that you can do to ensure that your system and 
your data remains safe such as disabling any services you don't use, using a 
firewall, etc. A lot more options than I can go over here and you were asking 
about antivirus software and not security in general anyway.

-Gary

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Re: [newbie] Antivirus for Linux?

2001-11-02 Thread etharp

is true, and the best antiviri' for Linux is not having M$ products in the 
same network (ohh I crake myself up sometimes ..I am so damn funny) 


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Re: [newbie] Antivirus software on Linux?

2001-06-11 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan

There are no anti-virus programmes for GNU/Linux -- the main reason 
for this being the lack of virii for this OS. UNIX/Linux virii usually 
exploit security holes in software. In every case security fixes had 
been available long before the attacks. In other words, the few who 
were affected by virii suffered only because they had not kept their 
systems up-to-date with the latest packages. The best virus protection 
you can have is to keep you system up-to-date with the latest official 
Mandrake package releases. Software Manager is ideal for this.

In the M$ world, things are different. M$ don't bother fixing the 
holes that virii exploit, instead delegating the job to virus scanning 
companies, who can merely scan for virii, not fix the holes.. This 
means you have to frequently scan your discs, and if something *does* 
get through the protection (no virus scanner is 100% accurate) 
you're seriously stuffed.

You may see virus scanners available for GNU/Linux -- these are made 
to detect Windows viruses (which can't harm GNU/Linux at all). This 
can be useful if you have multiple OSs installed, or if you share a 
network with WIndos boxes.


On Mon, 11 Jun 2001 16:07, Robert Basye3rd wrote:
 Is it necessary to run a antivirus program on Linux Mandrake 8.0? If
 so which one is the best and are there any free antivirus programs
 out there?

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Re: [newbie] Antivirus software on Linux?

2001-06-11 Thread Michael D. Viron

Actually, that isn't the case.  Mcafee does in fact make a version of its
virus scanning software for linux--there are others that are listed at
http://www.amavis.org/

Michael

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At 12:13 PM 06/12/2001 +, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote:
There are no anti-virus programmes for GNU/Linux -- the main reason 
for this being the lack of virii for this OS. UNIX/Linux virii usually 
exploit security holes in software. In every case security fixes had 
been available long before the attacks. In other words, the few who 
were affected by virii suffered only because they had not kept their 
systems up-to-date with the latest packages. The best virus protection 
you can have is to keep you system up-to-date with the latest official 
Mandrake package releases. Software Manager is ideal for this.

In the M$ world, things are different. M$ don't bother fixing the 
holes that virii exploit, instead delegating the job to virus scanning 
companies, who can merely scan for virii, not fix the holes.. This 
means you have to frequently scan your discs, and if something *does* 
get through the protection (no virus scanner is 100% accurate) 
you're seriously stuffed.

You may see virus scanners available for GNU/Linux -- these are made 
to detect Windows viruses (which can't harm GNU/Linux at all). This 
can be useful if you have multiple OSs installed, or if you share a 
network with WIndos boxes.


On Mon, 11 Jun 2001 16:07, Robert Basye3rd wrote:
 Is it necessary to run a antivirus program on Linux Mandrake 8.0? If
 so which one is the best and are there any free antivirus programs
 out there?

-- 
Sridhar Dhanapalan.
   There are two major products that come from Berkeley:
   LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence.
   -- Jeremy S. Anderson





Re: [newbie] Antivirus software on Linux?

2001-06-11 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan

This just proves the point I made earlier. If you look below you shall 
notice I said:

quote
You may see virus scanners available for GNU/Linux -- these are
made to detect Windows viruses (which can't harm GNU/Linux at
all). This can be useful if you have multiple OSs installed, or if
you share a network with WIndos boxes.
/quote

These programmes are no different. If you look at the Technical 
Information introduction (http://www.amavis.org/amavis.html#intro), 
you will see it says:

quote
Most people will say: A virus scanner? For UN*X? Why? Viruses do not
work in a UNIX environment. On the first glance they are right (even
if there are at least two viruses which run under Linux - well,
actually they are Trojan Horses).

On the second view though, imagine a heterogene network environment
with both UN*X and DOS / Windows / Macintosh workstations. Now think
of an UN*X server that serves Windows and/or Macintosh workstations
via a POP3 service. Would it not be nice to ensure attachments coming
via email are scanned for viruses before they reach a system they are
able to infect? Well - that is what this package is for. It resides on
the server that handles your incoming mails. When a mail arrives,
instead of being delivered via procmail directly, is parsed through a
script that extracts all attachments from the mail, unpacks (if
needed) and scannes them using a professional virus scanner program.
/quote

In other words, these scanners do run on GNU/Linux, but scan for 
WIndows virii. This ensures that all e-mail is clean *before* it 
retreived onto a system that is capable of being infected.


On Tue, 12 Jun 2001 03:33, Michael D. Viron wrote:
 Actually, that isn't the case.  Mcafee does in fact make a version
 of its virus scanning software for linux--there are others that are
 listed at http://www.amavis.org/

 Michael

 At 12:13 PM 06/12/2001 +, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote:
 There are no anti-virus programmes for GNU/Linux -- the main reason
 for this being the lack of virii for this OS. UNIX/Linux virii
  usually exploit security holes in software. In every case security
  fixes had been available long before the attacks. In other words,
  the few who were affected by virii suffered only because they had
  not kept their systems up-to-date with the latest packages. The
  best virus protection you can have is to keep you system
  up-to-date with the latest official Mandrake package releases.
  Software Manager is ideal for this.
 
 In the M$ world, things are different. M$ don't bother fixing the
 holes that virii exploit, instead delegating the job to virus
  scanning companies, who can merely scan for virii, not fix the
  holes.. This means you have to frequently scan your discs, and if
  something *does* get through the protection (no virus scanner is
  100% accurate) you're seriously stuffed.
 
 You may see virus scanners available for GNU/Linux -- these are
  made to detect Windows viruses (which can't harm GNU/Linux at
  all). This can be useful if you have multiple OSs installed, or if
  you share a network with WIndos boxes.
 
 On Mon, 11 Jun 2001 16:07, Robert Basye3rd wrote:
  Is it necessary to run a antivirus program on Linux Mandrake 8.0?
  If so which one is the best and are there any free antivirus
  programs out there?

-- 
Sridhar Dhanapalan.
There are two major products that come from Berkeley:
LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence.
-- Jeremy S. Anderson




Re: [newbie] Antivirus software on Linux?

2001-06-11 Thread Yura Gusev

On Mon, 11 Jun 2001, Robert Basye3rd wrote:

 Is it necessary to run a antivirus program on Linux Mandrake 8.0? If so
 which one is the best and are there any free antivirus programs out there?

It's a good idea to setup antivir on mailserver.

Try http://avp.ru/products.asp?tgroup=3pgroup=9

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[newbie] Antivirus software on Linux?

2001-06-11 Thread Robert Basye3rd

Is it necessary to run a antivirus program on Linux Mandrake 8.0? If so
which one is the best and are there any free antivirus programs out there?




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