Re: [newbie] hey?

2003-07-02 Thread erikvhe
I read this

ed tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Sun, 2003-06-29 at 22:22, Damian Gatabria wrote:
 Can anyone read this? If so, please
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 from the lists since friday night...
 
 
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Re: [newbie] hey?

2003-07-01 Thread ed tharp
On Sun, 2003-06-29 at 22:22, Damian Gatabria wrote:
 Can anyone read this? If so, please
 respond privately, i've not received any mail
 from the lists since friday night...
 
 
 Damian
 
 
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Re: [newbie] hey?

2003-06-30 Thread Inhabitant of Zion
Hi

Must be a collective attempt worldwide by ISP's to sabotage list users!
ROTFL... actually it was yahoo I had a problem with!

Tracked it down to the fact my ISP had suddenly decided to change my
static IP last Friday (its been the same for the last 6 months at least!).

I really must get a no-ip registration setup and use their IP tracker
program to sync my IP.

Once my DNS had updated and all the servers kicked in I got over 200
emails over 5 mins!

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Re: [newbie] hey?

2003-06-30 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Mon, 2003-06-30 at 12:22, Damian Gatabria wrote:
 Can anyone read this?

I can't read English.

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Re: [newbie] hey what happened to my icons

2003-04-05 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Sat, 2003-04-05 at 16:03, David E. Fox wrote:
 here i am doing a bunch of stuff naturally and not sure what i did,
 but suddenly all my icons in kde 3.1 are gone. For a while just one
 icon was showing, now not even that - all there is is the background 
 and my bottom pane bar. Eveerything else is running fine.
 
 Seems that a process of kde died unexpectedly, the question is which?
 And how to restart that portion of kde without having to drop back to 
 console and restart X?

That's an extremely weird one mate...you might want to just restart the
session - it ain't as though you have to reboot or anything - just
restart X...restarting the kicker (panel) is one thing, but if the
entire KDE window manager is choking and puking, you might save some
hassle by restarting...
(the Xsession, not the computer)

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Re: [newbie] hey what happened to my icons

2003-04-05 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Sat, 2003-04-05 at 16:28, David E. Fox wrote:
  Seems that a process of kde died unexpectedly, the question is which?
 
 Addendum:
 
 I ended up restarting KDE and all my icons are back. However there
 are seemingly a number of stuck kdeinit processes that I am finding
 difficult to get rid of. I tried manually killing some of them, even
 killall kdeinit. 

What if you switch to runlevel 3, restart the box, use startx to start
XWindows, shut it down nicely, change the runlevel back to 5, reboot,
then have a go at it again...?

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[newbie] hey what happened to my icons

2003-04-04 Thread David E. Fox

here i am doing a bunch of stuff naturally and not sure what i did,
but suddenly all my icons in kde 3.1 are gone. For a while just one
icon was showing, now not even that - all there is is the background 
and my bottom pane bar. Eveerything else is running fine.

Seems that a process of kde died unexpectedly, the question is which?
And how to restart that portion of kde without having to drop back to 
console and restart X?




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Re: [newbie] hey what happened to my icons

2003-04-04 Thread David E. Fox
 Seems that a process of kde died unexpectedly, the question is which?

Addendum:

I ended up restarting KDE and all my icons are back. However there
are seemingly a number of stuck kdeinit processes that I am finding
difficult to get rid of. I tried manually killing some of them, even
killall kdeinit. 


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[newbie] Hey Paul...

2002-07-18 Thread Roger Sherman

By any chance, do you have a SAMBA question? ;-)





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[newbie] Hey can someone put Mandrake 8.1 up in their Morpheus accounts so we can get some serious downloads going

2001-11-01 Thread Roger

I don't want to wait for 1 day just to get a file 650megs in size





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Re: [newbie] HEY, NO SPAMMING

2001-08-15 Thread johnix

At Wed, 15 Aug 2001 01:13:37 -0500 , Adam Willcox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

I got an e-mail from Chris Harvey that was bounced from the mandrake mailing
list server.  In my opinion he should be immediately terminated from the
forum for abusing it in such a gross manner.


I can't help but to wonder if Chris Harvey made an innocent mistake.
We are newbie's here. You don't seem verry understanding and it seems you don't know 
how to delete.
But maybe I'm wrong.

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Re: [newbie] HEY, NO SPAMMING

2001-08-15 Thread Robert MacLean

Hi

If Chris Harvey made a mistake why doesn't he apologise?
But I agree with Adam that SPAM shouldn't be tolerated, its annoying
and time consuming.
And the newbie list is not the place for it.

Robert MacLean
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Subject: Re: [newbie] HEY, NO SPAMMING


 At Wed, 15 Aug 2001 01:13:37 -0500 , Adam Willcox
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I got an e-mail from Chris Harvey that was bounced from the
mandrake mailing
 list server.  In my opinion he should be immediately terminated
from the
 forum for abusing it in such a gross manner.
 
 
 I can't help but to wonder if Chris Harvey made an innocent
mistake.
 We are newbie's here. You don't seem verry understanding and it
seems you don't know how to delete.
 But maybe I'm wrong.

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RE: [newbie] HEY, NO SPAMMING

2001-08-15 Thread Jason Guidry

I contacted the webmaster at his domain.  mandrake claims to go after
people who spam people on this list.  I think if we all write a letter to
the webmaster [EMAIL PROTECTED], that should take care of it.




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RE: [newbie] HEY, NO SPAMMING

2001-08-15 Thread Jesse Hepburn

Now here's something that I find amusing.  The guy who actually spammed
only sent on email...fine, I can handle that, but then everybody starts
sending anti-spam emails (and thus spamming everybody), and now we're
all supposed to spam the webmaster to take action against the spammer?

--Jesse

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Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 3:04 PM
To: Linux-Mandrake Newbie (E-mail)
Subject: RE: [newbie] HEY, NO SPAMMING

I contacted the webmaster at his domain.  mandrake claims to go after
people who spam people on this list.  I think if we all write a letter
to
the webmaster [EMAIL PROTECTED], that should take care of it.






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Re: [newbie] HEY, NO SPAMMING

2001-08-15 Thread Tom Brinkman

On Wednesday 15 August 2001 08:04 am, Jason Guidry wrote:
 I contacted the webmaster at his domain.  mandrake claims to go
 after people who spam people on this list.  I think if we all write
 a letter to the webmaster [EMAIL PROTECTED], that should
 take care of it.

Before this gets way out'a hand, let me say this is a bad idea.
There's many reasons why a list can occaisionally get spammed, and 
often the apparent sender is the main victim, ie, his/her acount 
or system was used to send the spam without his/her knowledge or 
consent.  Often it's just an innocent mistake.

   As has already been said, the best tool for dealing with spam is the 
Delete key.  Some of the main damage from viruses is the volume of 
email sent (in)correctly warning of them. Some of the main damage spam 
causes is the volume of email it spawns from those who feel a need to 
search for the guilty and (often) crucify the innocent.  YMMV
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Re: [newbie] HEY, NO SPAMMING

2001-08-15 Thread Charles Punch

Jesse Hepburn wrote:
 
 Now here's something that I find amusing.  The guy who actually spammed
This thread is starting to sound like the Monty Python sketch that
someone mentioned earlier.
All spam and no mail make Jack a dull newbie.

ShalomOut
  Chal
Elder PCUSA
Registered Linux user # 217118
I want to read my new poem about pork brains and outer space ...

 only sent on email...fine, I can handle that, but then everybody starts
 sending anti-spam emails (and thus spamming everybody), and now we're
 all supposed to spam the webmaster to take action against the spammer?
 
 --Jesse
 
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 Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 3:04 PM
 To: Linux-Mandrake Newbie (E-mail)
 Subject: RE: [newbie] HEY, NO SPAMMING
 
 I contacted the webmaster at his domain.  mandrake claims to "go after"
 people who spam people on this list.  I think if we all write a letter
 to
 the webmaster [EMAIL PROTECTED], that should take care of it.
 
   
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[newbie] HEY, NO SPAMMING

2001-08-14 Thread Adam Willcox

I got an e-mail from Chris Harvey that was bounced from the mandrake mailing
list server.  In my opinion he should be immediately terminated from the
forum for abusing it in such a gross manner.




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2001-07-05 Thread Coby Aronson



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[newbie] Hey Ex Windows Users: How to read message log via clicking on Home

2001-04-27 Thread g

Wow what a great feature for us Non Linux versed, Windows point and click 
types.  In response to the IP Flooding w/PMfirewall:

Using LM 7.2, KDE, 
I get to my message log by just clicking on the Home Icon at the bottom of 
the screen, it brings up the file tree, 
click on Root, 
then click on Var, 
then click on Log, 
then click on messages Icon (the one with the pencil showing).  
it displays the message log right on the screen.  Scroll to the bottom to 
see the latest entries.  No more of that  Linux terminal commands Mumbo 
Jumbo, back to good ole point and click.

Works great for us Windows refugees hanging out on Linux, nothing beats a 
good ole Point and click.

To Edit the log file
While it is displayed on the screen:
I Click on Edit at the top of the screen
Click on Open with Advanced Editor
and walah - i can edit the file.

You can use any of the editors it lists but so far i only tried the Advance 
Option.

Cool, this Linux stuff is getting better all the time  ;-0

Now if I could just get my sound system to work... via point and click...





Re: [newbie] Hey Ex Windows Users: How to read message log via clicking on Home

2001-04-27 Thread Tim Holmes

Well there is a way to user your Point  Click methods to configure 
hardware.

Open up DrakConf by any means you want.  You can click the icon since
you're a Point 'n Clicker or type DrakConf at a command prompt.  

Either way, once you have DrakConf up, open up HardDrake.  HardDrake will
off you two panels.  On the left it will show you catagories of hardware.

You can select the sound card option and open it up.  If there's something
in there, that means the system knows it's there.  On the right it will
give you some info about it and there's an option to run the Config tool.
Run that.  It should then try and play a sound.  If  you hear the sound,
obviously your sound card words.  No Linux terminal commands Mumbo Jumbo.

As a suggestion though.  Stop looking at the console as Linux terminal
command Mumbo Jumbo.  That's where the real power of Linux can be found.
That's where you really start to dig into the system and become an expect.
To start working with the shell, editing and keeping a 150 line .aliases
file, and other things.

Also a lot of the people that help you with problems on this list, are the
people that love the console work, and some of us don't even bother X windows.
We do everything from the console.  Right down to play MP3s, chatting, and
playing games!  Wouldn't want to offend them by calling it Mumbo Jumbo. 
:0)

Hope ya found that helpful, and be kind to your penguin!
tdh


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* g [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010427 09:01]:
| Wow what a great feature for us Non Linux versed, Windows point and click 
| types.  In response to the IP Flooding w/PMfirewall:
| 
| Using LM 7.2, KDE, 
| I get to my message log by just clicking on the Home Icon at the bottom of 
| the screen, it brings up the file tree, 
| click on Root, 
| then click on Var, 
| then click on Log, 
| then click on messages Icon (the one with the pencil showing).  
| it displays the message log right on the screen.  Scroll to the bottom to 
| see the latest entries.  No more of that  Linux terminal commands Mumbo 
| Jumbo, back to good ole point and click.
| 
| Works great for us Windows refugees hanging out on Linux, nothing beats a 
| good ole Point and click.
| 
| To Edit the log file
| While it is displayed on the screen:
| I Click on Edit at the top of the screen
| Click on Open with Advanced Editor
| and walah - i can edit the file.
| 
| You can use any of the editors it lists but so far i only tried the Advance 
| Option.
| 
| Cool, this Linux stuff is getting better all the time  ;-0
| 
| Now if I could just get my sound system to work... via point and click...




Re: [newbie] Hey Ex Windows Users: How to read message log via clicking on Home

2001-04-27 Thread David E. Fox

 see the latest entries.  No more of that  Linux terminal commands Mumbo 
 Jumbo, back to good ole point and click.

Umm what's wrong with more /var/log/messages ?

:)

 To Edit the log file
 While it is displayed on the screen:

I'm not really clear why'd you want to edit a log file (cut  paste maybe
part of it to another file) but 'vi /var/log/messages' works too :).

That's the nicety of linux - best of both the GUI and (usually) more
powerful command line (depending on what you want to do).

Have you tried 'sndconfig'?


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Re: [newbie] Hey Ex Windows Users: How to read message log via clicking on Home

2001-04-27 Thread g



Hi Tim - I stand corrected - I should not have been flippant with Mumbo jumbo 
and by no way meant offense to all the fantastic Linux users.  I am envious 
of their learning prowess.  i am sure there are others like me who are 
venturing over to Linux and have a hard time even spelling it, let alone 
doing terminal work (probably 1% of the Linux population).  Thankfully you 
are all kind enough to put up with us and try and help us.  My Linux learning 
is on the backside of the bell curve, hey someone has to occupy those far end 
end points. somewhere around 5 standard deviations away.

The HardDrak doesn't list any sound devices, so I am soundless.  i dowloaded 
the Aureal file, (tar.gz), Todd was kind enough to send me the url, but don't 
know what to do with it, or how to install it.  

I have a Crystal Semiconductor for the sound card and Altec lansing speakers. 

Again my apologies to the Linux community.


 As a suggestion though.  Stop looking at the console as Linux terminal
 command Mumbo Jumbo.  That's where the real power of Linux can be found.
 That's where you really start to dig into the system and become an expect.
 To start working with the shell, editing and keeping a 150 line .aliases
 file, and other things.

 Also a lot of the people that help you with problems on this list, are the
 people that love the console work, and some of us don't even bother X
 windows. We do everything from the console.  Right down to play MP3s,
 chatting, and playing games!  Wouldn't want to offend them by calling it
 Mumbo Jumbo.

 :0)

 Hope ya found that helpful, and be kind to your penguin!
 tdh


 T. Holmes
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 * g [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010427 09:01]:
 | Wow what a great feature for us Non Linux versed, Windows point and click
 | types.  In response to the IP Flooding w/PMfirewall:
 |
 | Using LM 7.2, KDE,
 | I get to my message log by just clicking on the Home Icon at the bottom
 | of the screen, it brings up the file tree,
 | click on Root,
 | then click on Var,
 | then click on Log,
 | then click on messages Icon (the one with the pencil showing).
 | it displays the message log right on the screen.  Scroll to the bottom to
 | see the latest entries.  No more of that  Linux terminal commands Mumbo
 | Jumbo, back to good ole point and click.
 |
 | Works great for us Windows refugees hanging out on Linux, nothing beats a
 | good ole Point and click.
 |
 | To Edit the log file
 | While it is displayed on the screen:
 | I Click on Edit at the top of the screen
 | Click on Open with Advanced Editor
 | and walah - i can edit the file.
 |
 | You can use any of the editors it lists but so far i only tried the
 | Advance Option.
 |
 | Cool, this Linux stuff is getting better all the time  ;-0
 |
 | Now if I could just get my sound system to work... via point and click...





Re: [newbie] Hey Ex Windows Users: How to read message log via clicking on Home

2001-04-27 Thread Tim Holmes

Don't even sweat it.. all in playful gest!

As for the sound card. What kind of motherboard to you have?
Most ASUS motherboards have a diagnostic that runs when you
boot you system.  If you disable the harddrives, it will stop
there and give you some basic information.  

For example, the one that purchased in December will tell me 
what's in what slot and what IRQ it takes.  This of course 
telling me if I have a few pieces of hardware sharing IRQs, or 
if it just doesn't see the hardware at all.  You may want to 
look at that first.  I do believe that THAT sound card is supported
though.  Check the supported hardware list on the site.

As for that tar.gz file that you recieved, here's a quick thing on 
such files an installs.

tar.gz files are compressed files.  They were originally started out
as back up files if I'm not mistakes.  I suggest you do a man tar to
get some information on the command and what it does.

Like most commands/apps in Linux, there are different ways of running
them.  That's one thing that I love about Linux.  The way that two 
different people can do something to get to the same means.  The command
I use for tar is as such.

tar -zxvf FILE_NAME.tar.gz

tar is the command the -zxvf are a string of variables.  The z variable 
tells it to filter the file through another zip program such as gzip.
x is for extract.  v is for verbose.  (Which will tell you what it's 
doing as it's doing it.)  And the f is for file name, which it normally
reads from the file itself.

So, if you have a file called test.tar.gz, and in that file you have two
files.  One, for arguement sake is a JPEG, the second is a plan ASCII
text file.  You run the command:

tar -zxvf test.tar.gz

And you will get output like this.

[root@yoda ~] tar -zxvf test.tar.gz
test
test/file.jpg
test/ascii
[root@yoda ~]

From there,  you will have a directory named test/ in your present working
directory. (pwd)  If you cd test/ then do a ls -la you will see that you 
have two files in that directory.

Well, with a program from source, the usual pattern you use to install 
is ./configure, which will execute the config file.  The config file
will prepare the software to be installed.  You can add all kinds of 
variables to that, but it's probably pretty safe for you to just run
the ./configure to get you started.  (If you open the configure file in
Nedit, you can see some of the things it does, and you can start to get
an idea of what goes on.  It can be very confusing, but it sometimes holds
info to adding more things to your install.)  You should also open up the
README file in Nedit.  Unlike in Windows, reading README files is an 
important part of the software.  Most people ignore the README file for
a Windows app, but most of us pay close attention to the README file.

After the program is done being configured from the ./configure, you 
now have to make the install file that will then install the program.
So type make at the prompt.  Both of these commands will render a lot
of text to stdout, I create log files to review later if I have problems
with redirect commands like tee or .  You can use any one you like.

After make is done running, you actually install the program with the
make install command.  When it's done you should be able to do a 
which program to tell you where it's located.  Normally you an open
the program right away once you've opened it, sometimes you will need
to open another Xterm window for it to be recognized.

Try using that, and that may help you with isntalling that Sound card.
tdh


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* g [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010427 15:15]:
| 
| 
| Hi Tim - I stand corrected - I should not have been flippant with Mumbo jumbo 
| and by no way meant offense to all the fantastic Linux users.  I am envious 
| of their learning prowess.  i am sure there are others like me who are 
| venturing over to Linux and have a hard time even spelling it, let alone 
| doing terminal work (probably 1% of the Linux population).  Thankfully you 
| are all kind enough to put up with us and try and help us.  My Linux learning 
| is on the backside of the bell curve, hey someone has to occupy those far end 
| end points. somewhere around 5 standard deviations away.
| 
| The HardDrak doesn't list any sound devices, so I am soundless.  i dowloaded 
| the Aureal file, (tar.gz), Todd was kind enough to send me the url, but don't 
| know what to do with it, or how to install it.  
| 
| I have a Crystal Semiconductor for the sound card and Altec lansing speakers. 
| 
| Again my apologies to the Linux community.
| 
| 
|  As a suggestion though.  Stop looking at the console as Linux terminal
|  command Mumbo Jumbo.  That's where the real power of Linux can be found.
|  That's where you really start to dig into the system and become an expect.
|  To start working with the shell, editing and keeping a 150 line .aliases
|  file, and other things.
| 
|  Also a lot of the people that help 

Re: [newbie] Hey Ex Windows Users: How to read message log via clicking on Home

2001-04-27 Thread Todd Flinders

Okay, now that you have that Aureal file, copy it to a
directory where you would like to expand it.  For
example:

cp Aureal*tar.gz /home/g-couch/

Then you can execute the following command to expand
the compressed file and it should place everything in
it's own subdirectory:

cd /home/g-couch
tar -xvzf Aureal*tar.gz

It's been a few years since I've installed an Aureal
driver, so I can't properly instruct you from memory. 
There will be a README and/or INSTALL file in the new
Aureal directory.  Read that carefully for
installation instructions.  If you are using an Aureal
chip, you will have success with that driver.  If you
run into issues, write back with the steps you were
executing and the errors/complications you received.

To read README and/or INSTALL (whatever their called)
do something like the following:

less README
less INSTALL

--- g [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 Hi Tim - I stand corrected - I should not have been
 flippant with Mumbo jumbo 
 and by no way meant offense to all the fantastic
 Linux users.  I am envious 
 of their learning prowess.  i am sure there are
 others like me who are 
 venturing over to Linux and have a hard time even
 spelling it, let alone 
 doing terminal work (probably 1% of the Linux
 population).  Thankfully you 
 are all kind enough to put up with us and try and
 help us.  My Linux learning 
 is on the backside of the bell curve, hey someone
 has to occupy those far end 
 end points. somewhere around 5 standard deviations
 away.
 
 The HardDrak doesn't list any sound devices, so I am
 soundless.  i dowloaded 
 the Aureal file, (tar.gz), Todd was kind enough to
 send me the url, but don't 
 know what to do with it, or how to install it.  
 
 I have a Crystal Semiconductor for the sound card
 and Altec lansing speakers. 
 
 Again my apologies to the Linux community.
 
 
  As a suggestion though.  Stop looking at the
 console as Linux terminal
  command Mumbo Jumbo.  That's where the real power
 of Linux can be found.
  That's where you really start to dig into the
 system and become an expect.
  To start working with the shell, editing and
 keeping a 150 line .aliases
  file, and other things.
 
  Also a lot of the people that help you with
 problems on this list, are the
  people that love the console work, and some of us
 don't even bother X
  windows. We do everything from the console.  Right
 down to play MP3s,
  chatting, and playing games!  Wouldn't want to
 offend them by calling it
  Mumbo Jumbo.
 
  :0)
 
  Hope ya found that helpful, and be kind to your
 penguin!
  tdh
 
 
  T. Holmes
  Unixtechs.org
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Real Men use Vi.
 
  * g [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010427 09:01]:
  | Wow what a great feature for us Non Linux
 versed, Windows point and click
  | types.  In response to the IP Flooding
 w/PMfirewall:
  |
  | Using LM 7.2, KDE,
  | I get to my message log by just clicking on the
 Home Icon at the bottom
  | of the screen, it brings up the file tree,
  | click on Root,
  | then click on Var,
  | then click on Log,
  | then click on messages Icon (the one with the
 pencil showing).
  | it displays the message log right on the screen.
  Scroll to the bottom to
  | see the latest entries.  No more of that  Linux
 terminal commands Mumbo
  | Jumbo, back to good ole point and click.
  |
  | Works great for us Windows refugees hanging out
 on Linux, nothing beats a
  | good ole Point and click.
  |
  | To Edit the log file
  | While it is displayed on the screen:
  | I Click on Edit at the top of the screen
  | Click on Open with Advanced Editor
  | and walah - i can edit the file.
  |
  | You can use any of the editors it lists but so
 far i only tried the
  | Advance Option.
  |
  | Cool, this Linux stuff is getting better all the
 time  ;-0
  |
  | Now if I could just get my sound system to
 work... via point and click...
 
 


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Re: [newbie] Hey Ex Windows Users: How to read message log via clicking on Home

2001-04-27 Thread Todd Flinders

You're trying to execute messages which (correct me if
I'm wrong) is a log file.  You said you want to read
it with more so type this instead:

more /var/log/messages

Or even better, use less:

less /var/log/messages

--- g [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Friday 27 April 2001 01:51 pm, David E. Fox
 wrote:
   see the latest entries.  No more of that  Linux
 terminal commands Mumbo
   Jumbo, back to good ole point and click.
 
  Umm what's wrong with more /var/log/messages ?
 
 [root@dhcp-196-2 /]# /var/log/messages
 bash: /var/log/messages: Permission denied
 [root@dhcp-196-2 /]#  
 
 I am logged in as root, but for what ever reason
 (Linux challenged) I can't 
 get to it this way.:-(
 


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RE: [newbie] Hey..IT WORKS...

2000-04-13 Thread Mike Perry

Install the Mozzilla fonts in your Netscape.
Worked for me.
Here is the info from www.mandrakeuser.org

Larger, Less Ugly Fonts For Netscape 
If you are somewhat shortsighted and too lazy to wear glasses (like me ;-)),
you have every reason to curse at Netscape. The fonts are small. Of course,
you can set a bigger font size via 'Edit' - 'Preferences' - 'Appearance' -
'Fonts'. Which will leave you with bigger but quite ugly fonts (Netscape
doesn't scale fonts right).
Solution? Get the mozilla-fonts package http://fox.mit.edu/skunk/xwin/,
unpack the archive, read the included README.
Create a new directory (like mkdir /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/moz). Edit the
included Makefile to include this directory. Run make pcf and then make
install (as root). Edit '/etc/X11/fs/conf' and add the new directory to the
font paths. Run xset fp+ /usr/X11/lib/X11/fonts/moz/. Restart the browser.
Go to the font choosing menu, select the Mozilla fonts and be amazed (these
fonts are very large, you might want to reduce their size to 12 or even 9).
No more problems with small fonts, I promise! ;-). 

Cheers:

Michael Perry.
RD. Dep. Netafim Magal.
Linux -- the Ultimate Windows Service Pack


 -Original Message-
 From: andy barnes [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wed 12 April 2000 23:04
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  [newbie] Hey..IT WORKS...
 
 
 
 Stephen Bosch..Thank you VERY MUCH :-)))
 
 As I'm posting this from a Linux session, I am one step closer!!  The
 mistake I was making was where I was putting the DNS settings (DOH!!!).
 
 I'll get onto the X problem soon...
 
 But while I'm here..
 
 The fonts in Netscape are AWFUL, and it only gives you about half a
 dozen choices. In Windows, I use Arial, but I've tried them all and they
 suck!! Can you add fonts there? (Can't ya tell I'm a Billy G boy,
 through and through!!)
 
 Thanks again..I feel more confident already!!
 
 Cheers
 
 Andy




Re: [newbie] Hey..IT WORKS...

2000-04-13 Thread andy


- Original Message -
From: Stephen F. Bosch  Savage, indeed.

 It looks like your X server is booting correctly, though... you were
 saying that it would work the first three or four times, but on the next
 start the screen would flash?

 When it does this, can you see glimpses of the above text between
 flashes?

No , just a completely black, blank screen. What did all that stuff tell
you, Stephen?

It hasn't done it since Saturday.. I've just wanged a new 20 gb hard drive
drive in and I'm going sit Linux in a 5 gb partition on that. If I do that,
even though they will be on seperate drives, lilo will still work won't it?

5gb should be big enough for just about anything I can throw at it as far as
Linux is concerned, shouldn't it?

Cheers

Andy




Re: [newbie] Hey..IT WORKS...

2000-04-13 Thread Stephen F. Bosch

andy wrote:
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Stephen F. Bosch  Savage, indeed.

  When it does this, can you see glimpses of the above text between
  flashes?
 
 No , just a completely black, blank screen. What did all that stuff tell
 you, Stephen?

It *looks* like X is starting normally, so yes, I'm a bit perplexed.
 
 It hasn't done it since Saturday.. I've just wanged a new 20 gb hard drive
 drive in and I'm going sit Linux in a 5 gb partition on that. If I do that,
 even though they will be on seperate drives, lilo will still work won't it?

Intermittent problems are always a bitch to diagnose.

Lilo doesn't really care about where the kernel is, but the kernel does,
sometimes. It depends on your hardware. Kernels like to be within the
first 1024 cylinders of the disk, so you might want to make a /boot
partition that's at the beginning or near the beginning of the disk --
the other partitions can be anywhere you'd like them to be.
 
 5gb should be big enough for just about anything I can throw at it as far as
 Linux is concerned, shouldn't it?

Sure - I'm surviving just fine on 4 Gb.

-Stephen-




Re: [newbie] Hey..IT WORKS...

2000-04-13 Thread Dan Ferris

Mike Perry wrote:
 
 Install the Mozzilla fonts in your Netscape.

YES!! Thanks for pointing that out.  Easy to install, and the
fonts are really nice.

Dan




[newbie] Hey..IT WORKS...

2000-04-12 Thread andy barnes



Stephen Bosch..Thank you VERY MUCH :-)))

As I'm posting this from a Linux session, I am one step closer!!  The
mistake I was making was where I was putting the DNS settings (DOH!!!).

I'll get onto the X problem soon...

But while I'm here..

The fonts in Netscape are AWFUL, and it only gives you about half a
dozen choices. In Windows, I use Arial, but I've tried them all and they
suck!! Can you add fonts there? (Can't ya tell I'm a Billy G boy,
through and through!!)

Thanks again..I feel more confident already!!

Cheers

Andy




Re: [newbie] Hey..IT WORKS...

2000-04-12 Thread Stephen F. Bosch

andy barnes wrote:

 Stephen Bosch..Thank you VERY MUCH :-)))

Well, congrats =)
 
 As I'm posting this from a Linux session, I am one step closer!!  The
 mistake I was making was where I was putting the DNS settings (DOH!!!).
 
 I'll get onto the X problem soon...
 
 But while I'm here..

There is a page on Web browsing at 

www.mandrakeuser.org

that describes how to get better Netscape fonts installed. You aren't
the first person to complain about them (anybody remember the term
"noseprint"?).

Let me know when you're ready to tackle the X problem.

-Stephen-




Re: [newbie] hey guys

1999-05-20 Thread Pliler Main Unit

No, I  meant to say it didn't respond to the crtl A Z.
Will

- Original Message -
From: Dan Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 1999 1:01 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] hey guys


 Dan Brown wrote:
  Pliler Main Unit wrote:

   BTW dan, that minicom, got me into trouble, it
   did respond to the cntl A Z command, and I didn't know
   how to get out of it, so had to hit the C-A-Del keys.

 It responded to Ctrl-A Z?  Good, then it should have brought up a
 menu.  Near the bottom of that menu, it says "Select function or press
 Enter for none.", which means just what it says--choose what you want to
 do, or press Enter to get back to the main screen.  From that screen,
 you should hit O to bring up the configuration menu; from that menu,
 select Serial Port Setup.  In that screen, you need to set the port to
 /dev/ttyS1 or /dev/cua1 (try the tty device first; if it doesn't work,
 try the cua device).

 Once you've set the serial port properly, hit Esc a couple of
times to
 return to the main screen.  There, type "AT" (without the quotes) and
 press Enter.  The modem should respond OK.  If so, that tells you that
 the port and modem are functioning properly.

 --
 Dan Brown, KE6MKS, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 "Since all the world is but a story, it were well for thee to buy the
 more enduring story rather than the story that is less enduring"
   -- The Judgment of St. Colum Cille



Re: [newbie] hey guys

1999-05-20 Thread Dan Brown

From: Pliler Main Unit [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 No, I  meant to say it didn't respond to the crtl A Z.

Did it do anything at all in response to this key combination?  If
not, you might not have been doing it correctly.  You should hit Ctrl-A,
release those keys, then hit the letter Z.  If that doesn't work,
something's hosed, I'd think.





Re: [newbie] hey guys

1999-05-20 Thread Pliler's Remote Unit Mail

Hi Dan,
Seems  like I tried it all combo's but I had not known that was the way,
will try it now and get b ack to you.
Will

- Original Message -
From: Dan Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 1999 4:47 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] hey guys


 From: Pliler Main Unit [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  No, I  meant to say it didn't respond to the crtl A Z.

 Did it do anything at all in response to this key combination?  If
 not, you might not have been doing it correctly.  You should hit Ctrl-A,
 release those keys, then hit the letter Z.  If that doesn't work,
 something's hosed, I'd think.






Re: [newbie] hey guys

1999-05-20 Thread Pliler's Remote Unit Mail

Dan,
Well I went back, and it still didn't seem to work hitting the keys as you
state.
But this time when I opened minicom, it says its configuring the modem.
Well I watched and it seemed to doing somehing like
trying to setup on figure out a init string.
then it seemed to stop.
At this point I htt the Crl A Z and  nothing.
again to get out I have to reboot.
Thanks
Will

- Original Message -
From: Dan Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 1999 4:47 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] hey guys


 From: Pliler Main Unit [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  No, I  meant to say it didn't respond to the crtl A Z.

 Did it do anything at all in response to this key combination?  If
 not, you might not have been doing it correctly.  You should hit Ctrl-A,
 release those keys, then hit the letter Z.  If that doesn't work,
 something's hosed, I'd think.






[newbie] hey guys

1999-05-19 Thread Pliler Main Unit

Hi,
I installed the LM, 5.3 from CD, last friday. For 4 days I didn't know
you had a taskbar at the bottom , of the X windows. I thought the dadgum OS,
was more or less worthless except to prg's, geeks etc.
THEN I DISCOVERED I HAD PROGRAMS, OLE.
 Now I ran KPPP, and configured my IPS settings, but at the time
I didn't hAVe a modem (except USB), now I put an external
serial port modem on and tried to go back to KPPP, and query
the modem, it said it couldn't find one.
SO, how do I get my modem recognized?
Make it simple, for simps like me, with no knowledge of this OS, please.
AND THANKS A MILLION.

Will Pliler






Re: [newbie] hey guys

1999-05-19 Thread Gilbert Espinosa

Dan Brown wrote:

 From: Pliler Main Unit [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  I didn't hAVe a modem (except USB), now I put an external
  serial port modem on and tried to go back to KPPP, and query
  the modem, it said it couldn't find one.

 Which port is your modem attached to?  Which device is kppp set to
 use for the modem?  Most likely, kppp is set to use /dev/modem.  If so,
 you've got two choices.  First, you can change kppp to use
 /dev/ttyS[com-1] for the modem, where [com-1] is one less than the com
 port number where the modem's attached--if your modem is on com3:, you'd
 use /dev/ttyS2.  The second option is to do this as root:

 # cd /dev
 # rm modem
 # ln -s ttyS[com-1] modem

 Either way, this should set kppp up to use your modem on the correct
 port.

Another way is to open a terminal and type "modemtool" at the prompt. This
lets you assign /dev/modem to the actual port of the serial modem.
Choose from:

/dev/cua0com1
/dev/cua1com2
/dev/cua2com3
/dev/cua3com4

Gilbert



Re: [newbie] hey guys

1999-05-19 Thread Dan Brown

From: Gilbert Espinosa [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Another way is to open a terminal and type "modemtool" at the prompt.
This
 lets you assign /dev/modem to the actual port of the serial modem.

That will work, but (1) it's no easier than just making the symlink
by hand, and (2) it uses the cua devices.  I prefer using the ttyS
devices, even in the 2.0.x kernels, to avoid messing things up in the
inevitable migration to 2.2.x, which has done away with
/dev/cua*--that's just one less thing to break.