Re: [newbie] ntfs
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 12:09:54 -0700 Ron Hunter-Duvar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Finest list in computerland, I haven't seen an ntfs write question in a year. Has the write issue been resolved? Can I safely share with an ntfs partition now? Lee Last I heard (a month or two ago), they had experimental write capability. But they recommended against using it unless you don't mind if your partition gets trashed. Thanks all. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] ntfs
Finest list in computerland, I haven't seen an ntfs write question in a year. Has the write issue been resolved? Can I safely share with an ntfs partition now? Lee Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] ntfs
On Fri, 2005-02-25 at 06:03, Lee Wiggers wrote: Finest list in computerland, I haven't seen an ntfs write question in a year. Has the write issue been resolved? Can I safely share with an ntfs partition now? As far as I know, you can still read, but not write. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] ntfs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 25 Feb 2005 18:54, Paul wrote: On Fri, 2005-02-25 at 06:03, Lee Wiggers wrote: Finest list in computerland, I haven't seen an ntfs write question in a year. Has the write issue been resolved? Can I safely share with an ntfs partition now? As far as I know, you can still read, but not write. You may want to look at Captive. Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCH10tkFAvMr/nNX8RAnpfAKChvs4yRhZAev4GLAWDOiDxi/zjPQCfcohH l8HU4U7G4Im6ze+BIQle5Ks= =uJrw -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] ntfs
On February 24, 2005 23:03, Lee Wiggers wrote: Finest list in computerland, I haven't seen an ntfs write question in a year. Has the write issue been resolved? Can I safely share with an ntfs partition now? Lee Last I heard (a month or two ago), they had experimental write capability. But they recommended against using it unless you don't mind if your partition gets trashed. The problem as I understand it is that there is no published ntfs spec, so they had to reverse engineer it, and they're not confident that they've done that well enough to trust it. But you can always backup your partition first, and restore it if you trash it (dd is good for this). A newer approach is CaptiveNTFS. It relies on you having a version of Windoze that supports ntfs (NT, 2000, XP) installed on your machine (not just access to an ntfs partition). Apparently, it wraps the Windoze ntfs driver to make it into a Linux driver. So the writing should be just as reliable as it is in Windoze. I haven't tried it (haven't needed to), but I've read success stories on the linux online news. -- Ron ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. As you know, necessity is the mother of invention. I don't know who the father is. Remorse, I guess. - Red Green Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] NTFS Partition slaughter
On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 12:43 am, Lord Storm wrote: SNIP Storm, old china plate, Windows ALWAYS needs to be installed FIRST - no matter what - it's a Microsoft thing - it will rewrite your partition tables no matter what - and if you hose up your Windows installation after mucking around with GNU/linux, well, you're going to have to blast it all out and start again. For whatever reason, the MS family of OS's refuses to be on anything - or rather, boot from anything except for HDA1 (or the entire HDA for that matter); by common practise, Windows is install first, then everything else after that. Can't get around it. snip Windows 2k was installed first then mandrake then partition scrambled. FIXMBR FIXBOOT did not work at all. I know that Windows has to be installed first (been using mandrake since 9.0) but this is the first time I have encountered this problem with MDK in 10. Some how it could be the bios level F4 bios its now F6 and Mandrakesoft may be configuring stuff for the F6 BIOS now. Also I do not know enough about lilo to configure it after mandrake is installed. I think ill be doing the beta run with MDK 10.1 and all candidates I just hope they anounce it on Distrowatch. This might be of interest:- See: http://basiclinux.net/cgi-bin/twiki/view/Basiclinux/WindowsBootLoss Be sure to see the link to the Prevention and Recovery - it's a lot easier to read then the huge bug reports. :-) Loss of Windows XP boot after Linux Install Some people are finding that they can no longer boot Windows XP after installing Fedora Core 2. I found a similar bugzilla report for Mandrake 10 and reports of this on SUSE 9.1 as well. There is a combination of ingredients that causes this problem. They are: 1. The distro uses the 2.6 kernel 2. The distro installer uses parted to repartition the drive 3. The installation is done on a large hard drive 4. Windows XP is installed on that same drive What happens to cause the problem? I am not an expert on this, but my understanding of what I've read in the bug reports is that this is it in a nutshell: 1. kernel 2.6 doesn't try to give the logical geometry, and gives the physical geometry instead 2. parted (front-ends include diskdrake and disk druid) uses the physical geometry given by the kernel to generate the CHS information during the repartitioning. This CHS information gets written to the partition table 3. the BIOS sees that the partition table uses a different CHS geometry, and adapts to it 4. Windows has the previous geometry that it keeps in its boot sector. This no works with the changed CHS that the BIOS now provides. The Windows boot fails. To read the bug reports yourself, see: * Mandrake bug report opened: 2004.02.17 http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=7959 * Fedora bug report opened: 2004-02-17 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=115980 For information on how to prevent or recover from this problem see Dual Booting Issues With Fedora Core 2 and Windows: Prevention Recovery http://lwn.net/Articles/86835/ This guide should also help with other distros which have this problem. The basic idea for prevention here is to give the drive geometry as a parameter when booting the kernel during installation - for example: linux hda=14593,255,63 The guide explains that you can get the geometry using fdisk (Linux version) from a rescue disk. The explanation uses the Fedora Rescue CD, but there are a number of rescue disks available - normally the installation CD itself can function as a rescue disk. My thinking is that laying down the partitions before doing the install would solve the problem, but many new users would rightfully just use the installer to do the job and run right into this situation of not being able to book Windows XP afterwards. fdisk or cfdisk do not read the geometry in the same way that parted does. Another prevention for this would be to install Linux on a separate hard drive. I would recommend that you do not install GRUB or LILO to the MBR of the disk that Windows is on, because I have seen reports of this geometry still being rewritten in such a case. -- AnitaLewis - 19 Jun 2004 -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 --- The words which express our faith and piety are not definite; yet they are significant and fragrant like frankincense to superior natures. .Henry David Thoreau ___ This email is guaranteed to be Wholly Linux Mandrake 9.2, KMail v1.5.3 and OpenOffice.org1.1.0 Experience what others using Mandrake Linux have experienced at:- http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club :
Re: [newbie] NTFS Partition slaughter
I think ill be doing the beta run with MDK 10.1 and all candidates I just hope they anounce it on Distrowatch. Have you tried using Partition Magic to repair the partition table? stephen kuhn - proprietor No since I dont think they make partition Magic for linux and I only have 1 harddrive otherwise the problem would of been fixed by now. All I can say is ... im glad im not alone I dont know what they did with the NTFS sure it was buggy but it seemed more buggy since SOT RC1 came out. Gee catch up time I suppose... WINFS is comming soon. MDK10 Gigabyte GA-8SR533 P4 Titan M/b 1.7Ghz Celeron 384MB RAM Geforce 4 64MB Labtec USB mouse ADSL eth0 40gig Maxtor Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] NTFS Partition slaughter
On Tue, 2004-06-22 at 18:23, Lord Storm wrote: I think ill be doing the beta run with MDK 10.1 and all candidates I just hope they anounce it on Distrowatch. Have you tried using Partition Magic to repair the partition table? stephen kuhn - proprietor No since I dont think they make partition Magic for linux and I only have 1 harddrive otherwise the problem would of been fixed by now. All I can say is ... im glad im not alone I dont know what they did with the NTFS sure it was buggy but it seemed more buggy since SOT RC1 came out. Gee catch up time I suppose... WINFS is comming soon. Partition Magic comes on a CD and no matter what x86 OS you run, it can access the partitons and/or repair them - you just boot from the PM CD... stephen kuhn - proprietor __ illawarra computer services :: a kuhn media australia venture http://kma.0catch.com :: mobile 0410.728.389 Serving Sydney, The Illawarra, South Coast and Rural NSW __ * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents __ Certified virus-free since we don't use Microsoft products In a whiskey it's age, in a cigarette it's taste and in a sports car it's impossible. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] NTFS Partition slaughter
On Mon, 2004-06-21 at 21:39, Lord Storm wrote: Well I run the bellow system. I had windows 2k pro with NTFS and some how mandrake purged Win2k from Partitions and windows would not reinstall. Operating system error or something like that it was about 2 weeks ago. Not that I realy care now, but SOT linux did it to me as well. 9.2 Didnt do it. So I was wondering if it is creeping into the NTFS partition managagement tree. I have downloaded the maxtor tool for low level format to try and fix the hard drive latter. Storm, old china plate, Windows ALWAYS needs to be installed FIRST - no matter what - it's a Microsoft thing - it will rewrite your partition tables no matter what - and if you hose up your Windows installation after mucking around with GNU/linux, well, you're going to have to blast it all out and start again. For whatever reason, the MS family of OS's refuses to be on anything - or rather, boot from anything except for HDA1 (or the entire HDA for that matter); by common practise, Windows is install first, then everything else after that. Can't get around it. stephen kuhn - proprietor == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com mobile: 0410.728.389 -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- Certified virus-free since we don't use Microsoft products Are you a parent? Do you sometimes find yourself unsure as to what to say in those awkward situations? Worry no more... Go away. You bother me. Why? Because life is unfair. That's a nice drawing. What is it? Children should be seen and not heard. You'll be the death of me. You'll understand when you're older. Because. Wipe that smile off your face. I don't believe you. How many times have I told you to be careful? Just beacuse. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] NTFS Partition slaughter
On Monday 21 June 2004 08:49 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote: For whatever reason, the MS family of OS's refuses to be on anything - or rather, boot from anything except for HDA1 (or the entire HDA for that matter); by common practise, Windows is install first, then everything else after that. Can't get around it. To give MS credit where it is due, that is not totally true. Win XP can be readily installed to any hard drive and while it is true that it will rewrite the MBR of HDA with its own boot loader, booting from the Mandrake CD and adding an entry to lilo.conf and then reinstalling lilo to the MBR will allow dual booting. Of course, you have to know what you are doing when you install Windows and IIRC, you have to manually create the installation partitions, not allow Windows to do it on its own. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] NTFS Partition slaughter
On Mon, 2004-06-21 at 22:58, Bryan Phinney wrote: On Monday 21 June 2004 08:49 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote: For whatever reason, the MS family of OS's refuses to be on anything - or rather, boot from anything except for HDA1 (or the entire HDA for that matter); by common practise, Windows is install first, then everything else after that. Can't get around it. To give MS credit where it is due, that is not totally true. Win XP can be readily installed to any hard drive and while it is true that it will rewrite the MBR of HDA with its own boot loader, booting from the Mandrake CD and adding an entry to lilo.conf and then reinstalling lilo to the MBR will allow dual booting. Of course, you have to know what you are doing when you install Windows and IIRC, you have to manually create the installation partitions, not allow Windows to do it on its own. Ok, so ya pinned me to a dead fish on that - but still, UNLESS YOU'RE AN EXPERT, you're going to hose up the installation...and if you're dependent on particular partion numberings, installing Windows AFTER linux is going to be a nightmare. stephen kuhn - proprietor __ illawarra computer services :: a kuhn media australia venture http://kma.0catch.com :: mobile 0410.728.389 Serving Sydney, The Illawarra, South Coast and Rural NSW __ * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents __ Certified virus-free since we don't use Microsoft products Real wealth can only increase. -- R. Buckminster Fuller Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] NTFS Partition slaughter
SNIP Storm, old china plate, Windows ALWAYS needs to be installed FIRST - no matter what - it's a Microsoft thing - it will rewrite your partition tables no matter what - and if you hose up your Windows installation after mucking around with GNU/linux, well, you're going to have to blast it all out and start again. For whatever reason, the MS family of OS's refuses to be on anything - or rather, boot from anything except for HDA1 (or the entire HDA for that matter); by common practise, Windows is install first, then everything else after that. Can't get around it. snip Windows 2k was installed first then mandrake then partition scrambled. FIXMBR FIXBOOT did not work at all. I know that Windows has to be installed first (been using mandrake since 9.0) but this is the first time I have encountered this problem with MDK in 10. Some how it could be the bios level F4 bios its now F6 and Mandrakesoft may be configuring stuff for the F6 BIOS now. Also I do not know enough about lilo to configure it after mandrake is installed. I think ill be doing the beta run with MDK 10.1 and all candidates I just hope they anounce it on Distrowatch. -- MDK10 Unsupported Gigabyte GA-8SR533 P4 Titan M/b F4 BIOS 1.7Ghz Celeron 384MB RAM Geforce 4 64MB Labtec USB mouse ADSL eth0 40gig Maxtor Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] NTFS Partition slaughter
On Monday 21 June 2004 09:42 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote: snip Ok, so ya pinned me to a dead fish on that - but still, UNLESS YOU'RE AN EXPERT, you're going to hose up the installation...and if you're dependent on particular partion numberings, installing Windows AFTER linux is going to be a nightmare. stephen kuhn - proprietor Installing Windows BEFORE Linux isn't exactly a day in the country, either. There was a thread on /. last night about the problem of updating a brand new installation of Windows without getting hacked. Not a simple task, particularly for a home user with only one PC. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] NTFS Partition slaughter
On Tue, 2004-06-22 at 00:43, Lord Storm wrote: SNIP Storm, old china plate, Windows ALWAYS needs to be installed FIRST - no matter what - it's a Microsoft thing - it will rewrite your partition tables no matter what - and if you hose up your Windows installation after mucking around with GNU/linux, well, you're going to have to blast it all out and start again. For whatever reason, the MS family of OS's refuses to be on anything - or rather, boot from anything except for HDA1 (or the entire HDA for that matter); by common practise, Windows is install first, then everything else after that. Can't get around it. snip Windows 2k was installed first then mandrake then partition scrambled. FIXMBR FIXBOOT did not work at all. I know that Windows has to be installed first (been using mandrake since 9.0) but this is the first time I have encountered this problem with MDK in 10. Some how it could be the bios level F4 bios its now F6 and Mandrakesoft may be configuring stuff for the F6 BIOS now. Also I do not know enough about lilo to configure it after mandrake is installed. I think ill be doing the beta run with MDK 10.1 and all candidates I just hope they anounce it on Distrowatch. Have you tried using Partition Magic to repair the partition table? stephen kuhn - proprietor __ illawarra computer services :: a kuhn media australia venture http://kma.0catch.com :: mobile 0410.728.389 Serving Sydney, The Illawarra, South Coast and Rural NSW __ * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents __ Certified virus-free since we don't use Microsoft products [Washington, D.C.] is the home of... taste for the people -- the big, the bland and the banal. -- Ada Louise Huxtable Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] NTFS Partition slaughter
On Tue, 2004-06-22 at 04:43, Carroll Grigsby wrote: On Monday 21 June 2004 09:42 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote: snip Ok, so ya pinned me to a dead fish on that - but still, UNLESS YOU'RE AN EXPERT, you're going to hose up the installation...and if you're dependent on particular partion numberings, installing Windows AFTER linux is going to be a nightmare. stephen kuhn - proprietor Installing Windows BEFORE Linux isn't exactly a day in the country, either. There was a thread on /. last night about the problem of updating a brand new installation of Windows without getting hacked. Not a simple task, particularly for a home user with only one PC. -- cmg Actually, I had a laugh over that one (I'm on /. at least twice a day) I've developed a particular routine for dual-boot machines: 1.) Partition the drive, give Windows the first partition; format the partition with VFAT, then move that first partition to the REAR of the HD - reboot 2.) Install Win 3.) After Win is installed, boot into Partition Magic, create whatever partitions are required (a swap and at least a / partition) format with ext3 4.) Start the GNU/linux installation - keep the partitions unless wanting a different file system (like ReiserFS or whatever) 5.) Install lilo to the MBR Works like a champ every time. stephen kuhn - proprietor __ illawarra computer services :: a kuhn media australia venture http://kma.0catch.com :: mobile 0410.728.389 Serving Sydney, The Illawarra, South Coast and Rural NSW __ * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents __ Certified virus-free since we don't use Microsoft products The first 90% of a project takes 90% of the time, the last 10% takes the other 90% of the time. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] ntfs write support fully supported.....kind of
I was experimenting with Knoppix 3.4 yesterday and found something of interest - Captive NTFS. I clicked on it to see what it was, and found something that many people may be looking for. It is a program type thing that downloads certain ntfs driver files directly from Microsoft, and uses the code to give linux full read-write support for ntfs partitions. I know that alot of you are completely against using any closed source stuff at all, but it works like a charm. I now have it on my computer, and have copied a bunch of music from my home directory to My Documents on the ntfs partition. http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/ It took me awhile to get it working correctly, so if anyone wants some step-by-step instructions on how to get it working, just let me know. John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] ntfs read/write?
So, should one choose creating a fat32 partition to have a shared (between MS Windows and Linux, and with write privileges) hard disk partition? Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] ntfs read/write?
On Wed, 2004-03-17 at 14:46, Jerry wrote: I try : [EMAIL PROTECTED] My Documents]# touch test.txt touch: cannot touch `test.txt': Read-only file system I tried also adding rw to options but still got the same result. /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows ntfs iocharset=iso8859-15,umask=0,rw 0 0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My Documents]# touch test.txt touch: cannot touch `test.txt': Read-only file system [EMAIL PROTECTED] My Documents]# cp /home/jerry/flowers3.JPG ./ cp: cannot create regular file `./flowers3.JPG': Read-only file system windows drive is win2k if that helps any. I'll play around with this today - I can access/change stuff on mine, so somethings not right here... stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- I don't understand the HUMOUR of the THREE STOOGES!! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] ntfs read/write?
On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 07:26:23 +1100 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll play around with this today - I can access/change stuff on mine, so somethings not right here... stephen kuhn - owner I d/l'ed the 2.6.4 kernel tonight and got looking around and saw something I think answers my question. From make xconfig... NTFS write support (NTFS_RW) This enables the partial, but safe, write support in the NTFS driver. The only supported operation is overwriting existing files, without changing the file length. No file or directory creation, deletion or renaming is possible. Note only non-resident files can be written to so you may find that some very small files (500 bytes or so) cannot be written to. While we cannot guarantee that it will not damage any data, we have so far not received a single report where the driver would have damaged someones data so we assume it is perfectly safe to use. Note: While write support is safe in this version (a rewrite from scratch of the NTFS support), it should be noted that the old NTFS write support, included in Linux 2.5.10 and before (since 1997), is not safe. This is currently useful with TopologiLinux. TopologiLinux is run on top of any DOS/Microsoft Windows system without partitioning your hard disk. Unlike other Linux distributions TopologiLinux does not need its own partition. For more information see http://topologi-linux.sourceforge.net/ It is perfectly safe to say N here. So with the re-write it looks like maybe I can't do it, right? Or am I on the wrong track? Jerry Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] ntfs read/write?
On Thu, 2004-03-18 at 14:21, Jerry wrote: So with the re-write it looks like maybe I can't do it, right? Or am I on the wrong track? Jerry Actually, it looks like you're on the right (write) track... stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- Adhere to your own act, and congratulate yourself if you have done something strange and extravagant, and broken the monotony of a decorous age. -- Ralph Waldo Emerson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] NTFS disk in linux
I am just installing mandrake 9 on my server. My server have been running win 2k server before so all my harddisk is in ntfs and i still want to be able to use them in my workstations that stop windows. But what do i do to get ntfs support on my linux server. From an Sony Ericsson T68 WG Paranoid. -- Rudolff B Vang mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NTFS disk in linux
On Tuesday 16 March 2004 03:11 am, Paranoid wrote: I am just installing mandrake 9 on my server. My server have been running win 2k server before so all my harddisk is in ntfs and i still want to be able to use them in my workstations that stop windows. But what do i do to get ntfs support on my linux server. Linux cannot run off of an NTFS disk and an ntfs data partition should be mounted read only for now because of the potential to corrupt data. You can convert the disk to a linux native format like reiserfs or ext3 during install and then create your shares using samba. The workstation doesn't care what format the disk is because the system presents a windows share to the network via samba, which all windows boxes can interface with. As long as the server OS can read the filesystem, it will work. -- /g Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ntfs read/write?
On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 10:16:02 +1100 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You should be able to just edit the /etc/fstab and make it read-write; here's how mine is (at least the entry for the Wincrap drives) (snip) /dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c ntfs iocharset=iso8859-15,umask=0 0 0 /dev/hdb1 /mnt/win_c2 ntfs iocharset=iso8859-15,umask=0 0 0 (/snip) fstab entry for windows drive is: /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows ntfs iocharset=iso8859-15,umask=0 0 0 I try : [EMAIL PROTECTED] My Documents]# touch test.txt touch: cannot touch `test.txt': Read-only file system I tried also adding rw to options but still got the same result. /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows ntfs iocharset=iso8859-15,umask=0,rw 0 0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My Documents]# touch test.txt touch: cannot touch `test.txt': Read-only file system [EMAIL PROTECTED] My Documents]# cp /home/jerry/flowers3.JPG ./ cp: cannot create regular file `./flowers3.JPG': Read-only file system windows drive is win2k if that helps any. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ntfs read/write?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 17 March 2004 06:16 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote: You should be able to just edit the /etc/fstab and make it read-write; here's how mine is (at least the entry for the Wincrap drives) (snip) /dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c ntfs iocharset=iso8859-15,umask=0 0 0 /dev/hdb1 /mnt/win_c2 ntfs iocharset=iso8859-15,umask=0 0 0 (/snip) stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- A couple more shots of whiskey, women 'round here start looking good. [something about a 10 being a 4 after a six-pack? Ed.] Hi Stephen, good to see you again. Lots of people are looking for you :) By the way, Jerry, If you installed MDK into a box that already contains ms windows, it should automatically recognize the ntfs partition and all. It will be labeled as /mnt/win_c, win_d, so on. Fajar. - -- 12:29:55 up 3:12, Mandrake Linux release 9.2 (FiveStar) for i586 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAV+Lrkp5CsIXuxqURAkObAKClffxCT4ZLhy2zWUwRWh98gQHjjwCgskAk OXn8G2uiijNKZPvMamajGiM= =xmZi -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] ntfs read/write?
according to the PR for 10.0 it says: Server deployments also benefit from interoperability with MS-Windows® systems thanks to enhanced support of Windows' Logical Disk Manager and new read/write NTFS support. ( this at http://www.linuxmandrake.com/en/10.0/100PR.php3 ) now.. is it actually possible to write to NTFS partitions now? and how would one go about doing it? Jerry. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] NTFS and Lilo in MBR
I have a hard drive with Windows XP Pro installed using NTFS. I want to put Mandrake 9.2 on a second hard drive. If I tell the install program to put the Lilo boot loader on the NTFS drive in the MBR will it work or will the NTFS cause problems because Linux can't write to an NTFS drive? Roger
Re: [newbie] NTFS and Lilo in MBR
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Roger, On Sunday, November 30, 2003, at 1:59:30 AM PST, you wrote: I have a hard drive with Windows XP Pro installed using NTFS. I want to put Mandrake 9.2 on a second hard drive. I've done exactly this, having recently installed MDK 9.2 on my second drive. If I tell the install program to put the Lilo boot loader on the NTFS drive in the MBR will it work or will the NTFS cause problems because Linux can't write to an NTFS drive? This is how I have my Lilo installed, and it works perfectly. - -- Melissa PGP public keys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Body=Please%20send%20keys -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE/ycGujVbXUvsE8ukRAo5EAJwNs9klXhsHcyPjul9aRMt1vzqm4QCcDOXP nF1XICIakx9jd+6xk9Gulso= =ZnN4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NTFS and Lilo in MBR
On Sun, 2003-11-30 at 20:59, R.E. Perrett wrote: I have a hard drive with Windows XP Pro installed using NTFS. I want to put Mandrake 9.2 on a second hard drive. If I tell the install program to put the Lilo boot loader on the NTFS drive in the MBR will it work or will the NTFS cause problems because Linux can't write to an NTFS drive? Roger No - it will work just fine. cheers Brian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NTFS and Lilo in MBR
thanks guys roger - Original Message - From: Brian Parish [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2003 9:09 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] NTFS and Lilo in MBR On Sun, 2003-11-30 at 20:59, R.E. Perrett wrote: I have a hard drive with Windows XP Pro installed using NTFS. I want to put Mandrake 9.2 on a second hard drive. If I tell the install program to put the Lilo boot loader on the NTFS drive in the MBR will it work or will the NTFS cause problems because Linux can't write to an NTFS drive? Roger No - it will work just fine. cheers Brian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NTFS and Lilo in MBR
If you have done it already then OK. Suggest... Switch drive 1 with drive 2 and then install mdk on this drivethis will leave your XP drive with an intact mbrif you have problems with linux booting (or whatever reason) then just unplug drive 1...then you do not need to restore xp mbr. I have seen a lot of traffic on list of people wanting to restore XP boot. I have this setup and it has saved me some grief.(Please note in my case both drives is master on their cables.) Another suggestion... Have a scratch partiton to move stuff between systems. I use grub bootloader..if you require the instructions for xp on 2nd drive ... just ask and I will provide. I have found that mdk is smart enough to do thisif the drive is connected on istallation..(just incase) Johan - Original Message - From: Melissa Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: R.E. Perrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2003 12:08 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] NTFS and Lilo in MBR -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Roger, On Sunday, November 30, 2003, at 1:59:30 AM PST, you wrote: I have a hard drive with Windows XP Pro installed using NTFS. I want to put Mandrake 9.2 on a second hard drive. I've done exactly this, having recently installed MDK 9.2 on my second drive. If I tell the install program to put the Lilo boot loader on the NTFS drive in the MBR will it work or will the NTFS cause problems because Linux can't write to an NTFS drive? This is how I have my Lilo installed, and it works perfectly. - -- Melissa PGP public keys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Body=Please%20send%20keys -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE/ycGujVbXUvsE8ukRAo5EAJwNs9klXhsHcyPjul9aRMt1vzqm4QCcDOXP nF1XICIakx9jd+6xk9Gulso= =ZnN4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NTFS and Lilo in MBR
R.E. Perrett wrote: I have a hard drive with Windows XP Pro installed using NTFS. I want to put Mandrake 9.2 on a second hard drive. If I tell the install program to put the Lilo boot loader on the NTFS drive in the MBR will it work or will the NTFS cause problems because Linux can't write to an NTFS drive? Roger Of course it will work. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NTFS and Lilo in MBR
On Sunday 30 November 2003 06:37 am, Johan wrote: If you have done it already then OK. Suggest... Switch drive 1 with drive 2 and then install mdk on this drivethis will leave your XP drive with an intact mbrif you have problems with linux booting (or whatever reason) then just unplug drive 1...then you do not need to restore xp mbr. I have seen a lot of traffic on list of people wanting to restore XP boot. I have this setup and it has saved me some grief.(Please note in my case both drives is master on their cables.) Another suggestion... Have a scratch partiton to move stuff between systems. I use grub bootloader..if you require the instructions for xp on 2nd drive ... just ask and I will provide. I have found that mdk is smart enough to do thisif the drive is connected on istallation..(just incase) Johan To restore XP bootloader, isn't it far easier to boot the install cd to rescue mode and select restore bootloader than it is to take the computer apart to switch disks? -- /g Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NTFS and Lilo in MBR
Probably is. OK it was only suggestions. You the user must decide what is appropriate for *your* set of circumstances and which system you regard as more important and what chances you are prepared to take. Me, I place a *high* priority on my XP installation and is prepared to dissect the pc if necessary to save my installation. That's why I do not let it share HD with installed linux due to a serious mishap with a linux install in the past. FYI my hd 1 = win98 - mdk92 - rh90- suse90. my hd 2 = XP ntfs- 2 x vfat part -1 x vfat scratchpad between systems - 1 linux part for backup with rsync. Johan ** - Original Message - From: Greg Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2003 3:39 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] NTFS and Lilo in MBR On Sunday 30 November 2003 06:37 am, Johan wrote: If you have done it already then OK. Suggest... Switch drive 1 with drive 2 and then install mdk on this drivethis will leave your XP drive with an intact mbrif you have problems with linux booting (or whatever reason) then just unplug drive 1...then you do not need to restore xp mbr. I have seen a lot of traffic on list of people wanting to restore XP boot. I have this setup and it has saved me some grief.(Please note in my case both drives is master on their cables.) Another suggestion... Have a scratch partiton to move stuff between systems. I use grub bootloader..if you require the instructions for xp on 2nd drive ... just ask and I will provide. I have found that mdk is smart enough to do thisif the drive is connected on istallation..(just incase) Johan To restore XP bootloader, isn't it far easier to boot the install cd to rescue mode and select restore bootloader than it is to take the computer apart to switch disks? -- /g Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NTFS ?
I had the same problems as you did,Discdrake will not let you shrink the NTFS drive,this not a Linux problem.It's caused by XP building non-existent swap files on your Hard Drive,it does not matter how many times you run Defrag of Scandisk,it will not play. The first time i installed, i had no trouble shrinkin it. Latere, after getting rid of stuff in windows, (and haveing to reinstally ML9.1) diskdrake told me the partition was too fragmented to shrink. As you, i had defragged many times. Not sure why it behaved differently... eric Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NTFS ?
At 09:57 AM 6/17/2003 +0100, you wrote: Snip I would have thought using M$ partitioning tools was the safest way of shrinking a ntfs partition? As for the rest, the free space could be left as such for linux, or, more usefully, a fat32 partition made for data exchange, which is what I was recommending, leaving the rest for linux. snip Anne yes you'd think so... what i found was that in my experimenting M$'s partitioning tools do not follow any sort of logical standard for its allocation tables. Figures huh? It seems to wish to somehow put the tables on sectors parts where most other OSes don't expect them. I assume this is so because windows is programmed to presume it will be the only OS on the system. This results in data corruption if your other OS lands on that sector! GAH! not good... PM avoids this by analyzing existing sectors clusters then landing the new sectors for your partition one sector over from the one M$ would overwrite/use. Smart but it makes windows think later (if you try their GUIed partitioner) that something is wrong. MDK Does the same thing as PM PM then in turn will find an error MDK made try to correct it if you let it! MDK in my experience is the most useful so far in that its partitoning tools seems more intelligent. M$'s partitioning tools don't find that same error after an MDK sector swap session. Dunno why exactly...haven't figured that out...but i'm guessing MDK Is made to imitate Windows or fool it somehow, where PM isn't made to do that for / with windows other OSes involved. PHEW! sorry to ramble just never tried to get all that thought out on paper before. :D - FemmeFatale, aka The Skirt Good Decisions Your boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NTFS ?
On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 15:30:43 -0600 FemmeFatale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Smart but it makes windows think later (if you try their GUIed partitioner) that something is wrong. Just a comment/warning here. I have, without problem, on various systems used PM, SysCom, or diskdrake to partition numerous hds. The important note to remember is that though they all do the same job each will do so 'slightly' different manner. You may use any tool avaiable to format an existing partition but, unless you wish to repartition the entire drive use Only 1 partitioning program and use this program Every time on this hd. Any other program will see errors on the drive. Worse yet is that if you let it 'fix' these errors you are screwed. Charles -- Fortune's real live weird band names #121: Candy Striper Death Orgy - Mandrake Linux 9.2 on PurpleDragon Kernel- 2.4.21-0.1mdk - pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] NTFS ?
At 05:55 PM 6/17/2003 -0400, you wrote: On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 15:30:43 -0600 FemmeFatale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Smart but it makes windows think later (if you try their GUIed partitioner) that something is wrong. Just a comment/warning here. I have, without problem, on various systems used PM, SysCom, or diskdrake to partition numerous hds. The important note to remember is that though they all do the same job each will do so 'slightly' different manner. You may use any tool avaiable to format an existing partition but, unless you wish to repartition the entire drive use Only 1 partitioning program and use this program Every time on this hd. Any other program will see errors on the drive. Worse yet is that if you let it 'fix' these errors you are screwed. Charles Ty Charles...you're saying what I was trying to get across. heh Much obliged. :) - FemmeFatale, aka The Skirt Good Decisions Your boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NTFS ?
Charles A Edwards wrote: On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 15:30:43 -0600 FemmeFatale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Smart but it makes windows think later (if you try their GUIed partitioner) that something is wrong. Just a comment/warning here. I have, without problem, on various systems used PM, SysCom, or diskdrake to partition numerous hds. The important note to remember is that though they all do the same job each will do so 'slightly' different manner. You may use any tool avaiable to format an existing partition but, unless you wish to repartition the entire drive use Only 1 partitioning program and use this program Every time on this hd. Any other program will see errors on the drive. Worse yet is that if you let it 'fix' these errors you are screwed. Charles I fully concure, but here we were also discussing MS partition tools and how they distroy data when resizing existing partitions. An important point to remember, so only PM and discdrake can repartition without loss of data, although I don't know anything about SysCom.But I absolutely agree it's best to do all partitioning on a given hard drive with the single partition tool. You can format with any formatting tool. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] NTFS ?
My effort to install Mandrake 9.1 on a PC that has Windows XP already installed has stopped at the "partitioning" phase twice . I now recall a comment somewhere that Linux doesn't like NTFS systems - Can I install on this XP machine that is using NTFS? If not can I use Partition Magic and create a FAT 32 partition and go from there? I'm on hold !! Thanks Ralph
Re: [newbie] NTFS ?
On Monday 16 Jun 2003 9:34 pm, Ralph Bagwell wrote: My effort to install Mandrake 9.1 on a PC that has Windows XP already installed has stopped at the partitioning phase twice . I now recall a comment somewhere that Linux doesn't like NTFS systems - Can I install on this XP machine that is using NTFS? If not can I use Partition Magic and create a FAT 32 partition and go from there? I'm on hold !! Thanks Ralph I don't know xp - never used it - but w2k had a partitioning tool built in IIRC. If it's still there in windows, see if you can create your fat32 partition there. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NTFS ?
Quoting Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Monday 16 Jun 2003 9:34 pm, Ralph Bagwell wrote: My effort to install Mandrake 9.1 on a PC that has Windows XP already installed has stopped at the partitioning phase twice . I now recall a comment somewhere that Linux doesn't like NTFS systems - Can I install on this XP machine that is using NTFS? If not can I use Partition Magic and create a FAT 32 partition and go from there? I'm on hold !! Thanks Ralph I don't know xp - never used it - but w2k had a partitioning tool built in IIRC. If it's still there in windows, see if you can create your fat32 partition there. Anne You won't be able to install linux on an NTFS partition - linux can read NTFS but writing is unreliable. You'll need to use some partioning tool to resize your NTFS partition so linux can be installed. I used partition magic pro - it can create Linux Ext2 partitions. Just make sure you back up your data first. Nathan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NTFS ?
At 10:27 PM 6/16/2003 +0100, you wrote: snips some grass smokes I don't know xp - never used it - but w2k had a partitioning tool built in IIRC. If it's still there in windows, see if you can create your fat32 partition there. Anne NOO DO NOT EVER USE M$ partitioning tools! EVER! esp. not for linux stuff ... that POS SUCKS! use PM if you must (get pm8 if you can or 7)... yes and you can resize your NTFS with that... for now if you're new to partitioning, DO NOT use MDK's ability to do so you will likely fubar your system. - FemmeFatale, aka The Skirt Good Decisions Your boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NTFS ?
At 10:02 PM 6/16/2003 +, you wrote: snips some leaves You won't be able to install linux on an NTFS partition - linux can read NTFS but writing is unreliable. You'll need to use some partioning tool to resize your NTFS partition so linux can be installed. I used partition magic pro - it can create Linux Ext2 partitions. Just make sure you back up your data first. Nathan PM sucks for EXT2 Partitioning...if you must, make a blank set of partitions for linux let MDK write the filesystem. PM's partitioning scheme isn't very good or efficient. Fair warning: PM will etll you later your partitions are corrupt if you follow my method. IGNORE IT! DO NOT let it fix this problem it perceives or you will lose your linux info. - FemmeFatale, aka The Skirt Good Decisions Your boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NTFS ?
AND ALWAYS bacup data prior to partitioning/repartitioning, there is ALWAYS a chance of data loss. Cheers Jason FemmeFatale wrote: At 10:27 PM 6/16/2003 +0100, you wrote: snips some grass smokes I don't know xp - never used it - but w2k had a partitioning tool built in IIRC. If it's still there in windows, see if you can create your fat32 partition there. Anne NOO DO NOT EVER USE M$ partitioning tools! EVER! esp. not for linux stuff ... that POS SUCKS! use PM if you must (get pm8 if you can or 7)... yes and you can resize your NTFS with that... for now if you're new to partitioning, DO NOT use MDK's ability to do so you will likely fubar your system. - FemmeFatale, aka The Skirt Good Decisions Your boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NTFS ?
On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 06:34, Ralph Bagwell wrote: My effort to install Mandrake 9.1 on a PC that has Windows XP already installed has stopped at the partitioning phase twice . I now recall a comment somewhere that Linux doesn't like NTFS systems - Can I install on this XP machine that is using NTFS? If not can I use Partition Magic and create a FAT 32 partition and go from there? I'm on hold !! Thanks Ralph You can resize NTFS with MDK 9.1; is that a resolution to the issue? -- Tue Jun 17 09:20:00 EST 2003 09:20:00 up 3 days, 16:34, 3 users, load average: 0.18, 0.14, 0.10 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * The Crown is full of it! -- Nate Harris, 1775 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NTFS ?
Ralph, I'd recommend using Partition Magic to carry out all your manipulations on XP. Follow the preparatory steps recommended by PM. Then use PM to shrink the space allocated to XP. If your user data are on a separate virtual drive, convert that to FAT32. Install MD in the free space and install lilo as your bootloader. You can then look at your NTFS partition and write to your FAT32 partition in Linux and dual-boot into Linux or XP. Good luck! DougB On Mon, 2003-06-16 at 21:34, Ralph Bagwell wrote: My effort to install Mandrake 9.1 on a PC that has Windows XP already installed has stopped at the partitioning phase twice . I now recall a comment somewhere that Linux doesn't like NTFS systems - Can I install on this XP machine that is using NTFS? If not can I use Partition Magic and create a FAT 32 partition and go from there? I'm on hold !! Thanks Ralph Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] NTFS question
hello. does anyone know of any program i can u use to resize my NTFS hard drive. it won't let me do it on the install. and i can't do it when i install windows cause it uses a recovery image.. so i'm lookin for something that will let me resize to make another partition that i could put linux on..
Re: [newbie] NTFS question
Partition Magic is one of the best known and most popular. I heard of a free one but do not recall it at this moment.
Re: [newbie] NTFS question
i was thinkign of using a program like that.. but i'm trying to do this on a laptop. and the only way i have of re installing XP it i screw it up (again) is w/ the recovery disk. will those still work if i use some type of partition program.. Joe
Re: [newbie] NTFS question
The recovery disks I've seen just wipe out everything and set the machine up in an arbitrary predetermined way. Therefore I would say that it doesn't matter what you try - at worst you can put it back the way it came. Brian On Mon, 2002-01-28 at 15:10, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i was thinkign of using a program like that.. but i'm trying to do this on a laptop. and the only way i have of re installing XP it i screw it up (again) is w/ the recovery disk. will those still work if i use some type of partition program.. Joe Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] NTFS Partition Not Mountable
NTFS is compiled in the kernel but I'm unable to mount the drive I get the error: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda2, or too many mounted file systems If it is a bad superblock how do I check and correct the problem and just how many mounts are too many? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NTFS Partition Not Mountable
On 02 Jan 2002 21:45:56 -0500, Noah Swint [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NTFS is compiled in the kernel but I'm unable to mount the drive I get the error: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda2, or too many mounted file systems If it is a bad superblock how do I check and correct the problem and just how many mounts are too many? What version of NTFS do you have? I don't think the Mandrake kernels support anything over NTFS 4.0 (from NT4). NTFS 5.0 (from Win2K) _may_ work, but 5.1 (from XP) won't work at all. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan The number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected -- The UNIX Programmer's Manual, 2nd Edition, June 1972 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NTFS Partition Not Mountable
Which version of Windows is it from? If it is from Windows 2000 / XP, it won't mount because it uses a newer NTFS than is supported by the current kernel release (I think they support up to NTFS 4 read, and (very experimental) write). Michael -- Michael Viron Registered Linux User #81978 Senior Systems Administration Consultant Web Spinners, University of West Florida At 09:45 PM 01/02/2002 -0500, you wrote: NTFS is compiled in the kernel but I'm unable to mount the drive I get the error: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda2, or too many mounted file systems If it is a bad superblock how do I check and correct the problem and just how many mounts are too many? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NTFS Partition Not Mountable
XP... NTFS 5.1 I went to the http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/ site and downloaded the rpm but it still doesn't work. On Thu, 2002-01-03 at 00:55, Michael Viron wrote: Which version of Windows is it from? If it is from Windows 2000 / XP, it won't mount because it uses a newer NTFS than is supported by the current kernel release (I think they support up to NTFS 4 read, and (very experimental) write). Michael -- Michael Viron Registered Linux User #81978 Senior Systems Administration Consultant Web Spinners, University of West Florida At 09:45 PM 01/02/2002 -0500, you wrote: NTFS is compiled in the kernel but I'm unable to mount the drive I get the error: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda2, or too many mounted file systems If it is a bad superblock how do I check and correct the problem and just how many mounts are too many? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- http://ld.net/?nswint Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NTFS Partition Not Mountable
Try http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/. On Wed, 02 Jan 2002 23:55:05 -0600, Michael Viron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which version of Windows is it from? If it is from Windows 2000 / XP, it won't mount because it uses a newer NTFS than is supported by the current kernel release (I think they support up to NTFS 4 read, and (very experimental) write). Michael -- Michael Viron Registered Linux User #81978 Senior Systems Administration Consultant Web Spinners, University of West Florida At 09:45 PM 01/02/2002 -0500, you wrote: NTFS is compiled in the kernel but I'm unable to mount the drive I get the error: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda2, or too many mounted file systems If it is a bad superblock how do I check and correct the problem and just how many mounts are too many? -- Sridhar Dhanapalan I feel that open, competitive markets, free thought and democracy all flourish only when we defend the medium itself as being independent. That may mean constraints that carriers cannot also supply software, that suppliers of generic software should be constrained from competing in markets which that software gives access to. -- Tim Berners-Lee, founder of the World Wide Web Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NTFS support on Linux
On Sat, 8 Sep 2001 05:16:11 -0500, Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear friends: Using dual-boot LM 8.0/Win2000 (with NTFS File System). Question: Currently, Linux can only read NTFS files but not write to it. What is the reason for this? Is there any hope that Linux will be able to both read and write to NTFS soon? Thank you. Benjamin As you would know, Microsoft are very secretive when it comes to their intellectual property, like filesystems. Linux NTFS support is the result of a great deal of experimentation and clever reverse-engineering. This is, of course, extremely difficult to do, and it cannot be guaranteed to be 100% reliable. To make matters more difficult, Microsoft have raised the bar a few times, once with Win2K (upgrading NTFS4 to NTFS5) and again with WinXP (NTFS5 to 5.1). NTFS4 is very different from NTFS5, and Linux supports this older filesystem a little better. At present in Linux, NTFS read support is quite reliable, but write support is still considered to be experimental. For this reason, Mandrake (and many other distros) only compile read-only support into their kernel. If you change to another kernel (e.g. by compiling your own) you can get write support. If you decide to write to NTFS in GNU/Linux, you need to unmount the filesystem and run a clean-up script before booting back into Windows to fix corruption issues. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NTFS and Mandrake
It was Mon, 16 Jul 2001 07:49:14 -0500 when Jack Gill wrote: NTFS is implemented ReadOnly only. So it is not just you. Paul I tried installing Mandrake 8.0 on a system that had Windows 2000 already on it, using NTFS file system. I could not get the install to work. However when I re-installed Windows 2000 using FAT 32, and then installed Mandrake, it worked. -- Why cats ever decided to become pets will remain a mystery. http://nlpagan.net - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 8.0 - Sylpheed 0.5.0 ** http://www.care2.com - when you care **
Re: [newbie] NTFS and Mandrake
This is a problem with Microsoft -- they like to keep the specs for NTFS 5 (as used in Win2K) secret, making it very difficult for GNU/Linux filesystem developers to include NTFS support. NTFS support in GNU/Linux is very good in read-only mode, but still experimental in read-write mode (Mandrake's default kernel doesn't even include read-write support). The solution (well, it worked for 7.2; I'm not too sure about 8.0) is to install Mandrake _without_ mounting the NTFS partition (just ignore it). After the install, modify your /etc/fstab to mount it at boot. On Mon, 16 Jul 2001 22:49, Jack Gill wrote: I tried installing Mandrake 8.0 on a system that had Windows 2000 already on it, using NTFS file system. I could not get the install to work. However when I re-installed Windows 2000 using FAT 32, and then installed Mandrake, it worked. Is this a general characteristic, or just specific to my system? Jack Gill -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson
Re: [newbie] ntfs support?
On Saturday 29 May 1999 22:17, you wrote: I've heard alot about the ntfs support module being really really buggy. One can read horror stories of it completely destroying some people's ntfs partition and needing a format. Is ntfs support really this buggy? I'm running windows2000 on my first drive and mandrake 8.0 on my second drive. Thanks for your input. Adam I never had any problems but i didn't very much reading from the NTFS partition. John W
[newbie] ntfs support?
I've heard alot about the ntfs support module being really really buggy. One can read horror stories of it completely destroying some people's ntfs partition and needing a format. Is ntfs support really this buggy? I'm running windows2000 on my first drive and mandrake 8.0 on my second drive. Thanks for your input. Adam
[newbie] NTFS Partition and GRUB
I am happy to say that I really like Mandrake 7.1. Finally it has the support for my video card "voodoo 3000", and some of my usb devices =). I only have one problem. I can't get to my windows 2000 partition anymore. When the boot loader install came up, I sat there for about 5 minutes thinking about, should I make life easy and boot from a disk or try a boot loader. Well I went with GRUB, and setup an extra option to boot from my NTFS partition which is /hda1. GRUB comes up fine, but when I choose the 2000 partition is bombs out with an error. I know the error is important to know, but I can't remember exactly what it is. My first question is can I bootup with the 2000 boot disks and fdisk /mbr and remove the bootloader. I wasn't sure because it's a NTFS partition and not fat. Is lilo or Grub compat with a NTFS partition? did I mention I love this mailing list =) Alan
[newbie] NTFS
Great, I can now access my ntfs partitions in linux. I can also access ntfs and write to dos in any user. Now I'm wondering if linux can write to ntfs, or just read from it?
[newbie] NTFS in Linux
Anybody know if there is a way to see my ntfs partitions in linux?
Re: [newbie] NTFS in Linux
Brent Timmer wrote: Anybody know if there is a way to see my ntfs partitions in linux? Hello Brent, Look at your /etc/fstab For my setup, I added the line: /dev/hda4 /nt40 ntfs defaults 0 0 then I added the directory "nt40" to my "/" partition There is proably a cmd to make all this work. However I had to do a reboot shades of 2 many yrs with nt and it was up. I must admit to a few dumbfounded hours spent staring at the "man fstab" to try to figure it out. Hopefully you're a quicker study. God Bless, Sam http://www.wcc.net/~peacemkr/linuxindex.html NOT an IE friendly site!
Re: [newbie] ntfs
On Sat, 11 Sep 1999, you wrote: Thats why the Write option comes with a big WARNING notice. No kidding!! ** Where Ever Your Head Goes Your Ass Will Follow **
[newbie] ntfs
Hey all, Well it got me finally!! I was useing my ntfs as a place to drop files and was writeing a cd and guess what ? I only lost about 2.5 gb of files no shit!!! The partition was blank and unformated and would not even mount. Be careful if ya use it. Ralph
Re: [newbie] ntfs
Thats why the Write option comes with a big WARNING notice. At 08:04 AM 9/11/99 -0400, you wrote: Hey all, Well it got me finally!! I was useing my ntfs as a place to drop files and was writeing a cd and guess what ? I only lost about 2.5 gb of files no shit!!! The partition was blank and unformated and would not even mount. Be careful if ya use it. Ralph
Re: [newbie] ntfs partition
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 18 Aug, Toshiro Viera Stalker wrote: A little question: I want to mount a NTFS partition at boot time, can you tell me syntax of the line I need to add in fstab? Toshiro. Sure- it's just like the other lines in /etc/fstab, except: fs type is ntfs, and you'll probably want to specify your own mount options (i.e. noexec, nodev, ...). For information on those, see `man mount`. Oh, and those two numbers at the end of the line should both be 0. -- -Matt Stegman Hi, I tried to mount my NTFS partition from the command line with the following result: [root@shiloh /]# mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /dosc mount: fs type ntfs not supported by kernel I was under the impression that Mandrake had NTFS support built in. Is this not so? I'm running Mandrake 6.0 with the kernel upgraded to 2.2.9-27mdk. Thanks, Carl
Re: [newbie] ntfs partition
On 30 Aug, Carl J. Bauman wrote: I tried to mount my NTFS partition from the command line with the following result: [root@shiloh /]# mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /dosc mount: fs type ntfs not supported by kernel I was under the impression that Mandrake had NTFS support built in. Is this not so? I'm running Mandrake 6.0 with the kernel upgraded to 2.2.9-27mdk. For whatever reason, the Mandrake team decided not to include NTFS support with the basic kernel. You'll have to recompile- not an extremely difficult task. -- -Matt Stegman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] NTFS access
How can I allow normal users to access NTFS partitions. I'm not concerned about writing anything i just want to be able to read some files there. No matter what i try i keep getting Permission Denied when try to access any NTFS mounted partition. Normal vfat partitions are working fine.
[newbie] NTFS partition access
Does anyone know if Linux 2.2 (Redhat 6.0) has support for accessing NT partitions. I have tried all permutations of the mount command to try and mount the NT partition. I keep getting the error message "fs type nfts not supported by kernel" What is going on?
Re: [newbie] NTFS partition access
On Tue, 22 Jun 1999, Mark A. Walters wrote: Does anyone know if Linux 2.2 (Redhat 6.0) has support for accessing NT partitions. I have tried all permutations of the mount command to try and mount the NT partition. I keep getting the error message "fs type nfts not supported by kernel" What is going on? Sorry ntfs is not compiled into 2.2.9(all releases bero?), I'm not familiar with the current state of the ntfs driver, as long as it's not a total system killer Bernard can probably include it modular the next time he repackages.
