Re: [newbie] two Mandrakes on two harddrives
Dennis Myers wrote: On Tuesday 29 July 2003 07:32 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: Dennis Myers wrote: On Tuesday 29 July 2003 02:57 am, Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 29 Jul 2003 5:29 am, Dennis Myers wrote: On Monday 28 July 2003 10:46 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Tue, 2003-07-29 at 13:24, Dennis Myers wrote: Has anyone installed two MLinux on two seperate HDs on the same comp and figured out how to get lilo to read them both at boot? I am trying to do it so that I can beta test and yet run the regular system when I am not running tests. Any hints or manual suggestions are appreciated, I have not found anything to help. It would truly be a matter of properly writting out the /etc/lilo.conf of the first installation; the first installation would write the lilo to the MBR of the first HD; then after you've done all that wonderful jazz and gotten your primary installation up and running, do a second installation on the second drive, but choose to NOT write lilo; then make note of the boot partition for the second installation and whatnot, and then write that into the /etc/lilo.conf on the first drive. Thanks Stephen, that is essentially what I am trying to do, just not getting it right. I will try a clean install of the beta and not write lilo I think this is where I screwed up. Thanks again, Just wondering - if you installed to the second drive without the first attached and let it write its lilo, wouldn't that give you the info you need? Then re-attaching the first drive it would boot from the original lilo, Ithink, and you could add the necessary stanza? Or am I crazy g Anne I tried that a while back and ran into a problem with the kernel image not being on hda, caused a kernel panic for the second OS boot. I am not having much luck here, if I format both disks when installing the first OS it won't let me name the 2nd harddrive other than /tmp or /var/www etc. So I know this can be done and civileme tried to explain how to do it using a /obj partition, but I must be to dense to figure that one out. I can not name two / partitions or two /home etc without getting a conflict. So anyone see how my head is screwed on backwards? I must say I don't actually have one /home partition, I just let each OS have a /home directory as part of / base , so my experience is not the same as yours, but having said that, I cannot see why you need two /home partitions anyway. I do have a /boot partition which keeps that simple. I take it you have all your partitioning done with mandrake's diskdrake, so diskdrake ought to just recognise the second drive and designate it hdb, it always has for me. I then click on the second tab for hdb and begin to partition as required, if this the second OS install , I designate the /base partition , format and proceed to install. You already have a /swap so that's ok, When your done installing you don't seem to have choice these days and have to install a new lilo which will boot up initially from the last , that is second OS, install's /etc/lilo.conf, when on sesktop make a fresh stanza to boot the first OS and reboot to that OS,where if you prefer to have the bootup done from the first OS /etc/lilo.conf, merely add a new stanza to boot the second OS and run /sbin/lilo to rewrite mbr lilo again. If you don't mind booting from the second OS /etc/lilo.conf then your merely have to add that stanza to boot the first OS. Sounds complicated but isn't. You must, I think, have the /boot partition on the first hda, I don't think it works putting it on the second hdb . I always put mine in as the frist partition on hda, but I don't think it's imperative anymore. John I don't have a problem understanding the above but whenever I try to add the second to the first or vice versa I get /sbin/lilo Fatal: Open /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.21-xxxmdk; no such file or directory. either way I go it is the same. I remember this problem in the past, it seems unable to see the correct image. Any help? It cannot find the kernel, I'm guessing here, but seems to me that you elected to have /boot as part of your /base in each OS , Yes ? If so, then you need to copy the kernel over to be with the /boot directory in the same OS where the /etc/lilo.conf is being read. You see I ellect to have a /bootpartition , so the installers in each OS automatically install the kernel and everything else in the same place and all is found correctly.Incidentally, you may have to copy more than the kernel, there is also the initrd files as well. Also don't forget to explicity define the kernel and initrd files with each stanza in /etc/lilo.conf here is my current /etc/lilo.conf boot=/dev/hda map=/boot/map install=/boot/boot.b vga=791 default=91-2.4.21.0 keytable=/boot/uk.klt lba32 prompt nowarn timeout=200 message=/boot/message menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw ignore-table image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.21-0.13mdk
Re: [newbie] two Mandrakes on two harddrives
On Wednesday 30 July 2003 03:39 am, Anne Wilson wrote: On Wednesday 30 Jul 2003 5:35 am, Dennis Myers wrote: On Monday 28 July 2003 10:46 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Tue, 2003-07-29 at 13:24, Dennis Myers wrote: Has anyone installed two MLinux on two seperate HDs on the same comp and figured out how to get lilo to read them both at boot? I am trying to do it so that I can beta test and yet run the regular system when I am not running tests. Any hints or manual suggestions are appreciated, I have not found anything to help. It would truly be a matter of properly writting out the /etc/lilo.conf of the first installation; the first installation would write the lilo to the MBR of the first HD; then after you've done all that wonderful jazz and gotten your primary installation up and running, do a second installation on the second drive, but choose to NOT write lilo; then make note of the boot partition for the second installation and whatnot, and then write that into the /etc/lilo.conf on the first drive. OK, I don't know for sure what I did differently this time but after two reinstalls of both 9.1 and 9.2beta1 and three rewrites of lilo.conf I have a viable lilo boot screen. The last time I rewrote lilo and then mounted the /dev/hdc1 to /mnt/linux-0 and then did /sbin/lilo. I have no idea if there is a need for this sequence or not. I also installed 9.1 on hda and in diskdrake left hdc blank. Then when I went to install 9.2 on hdc I had a blank partition table to write to. Also unknown if this was necessary. But it works now. Stubborn to a fault or just persistent, I prefer the latter when describing my temperament. But it works! Congratulations! Feels good whenyou've wrestled and won, doesn't it? Just one thing - if you've got a working lilo.conf I would copy it to lilo.conf.sav now, just in case you need to try anything else. Anne Good idea, I think I will print it out also, and put it in a safe deposit box. : 0 Thanks for all the help everyone, sometimes it is easier to struggle if you know you are not on your own. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] two Mandrakes on two harddrives
On Wednesday 30 July 2003 08:55 am, John Richard Smith wrote: Dennis Myers wrote: On Tuesday 29 July 2003 07:32 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: Dennis Myers wrote: On Tuesday 29 July 2003 02:57 am, Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 29 Jul 2003 5:29 am, Dennis Myers wrote: On Monday 28 July 2003 10:46 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Tue, 2003-07-29 at 13:24, Dennis Myers wrote: Has anyone installed two MLinux on two seperate HDs on the same comp and figured out how to get lilo to read them both at boot? I am trying to do it so that I can beta test and yet run the regular system when I am not running tests. Any hints or manual suggestions are appreciated, I have not found anything to help. snip have to install a new lilo which will boot up initially from the last , that is second OS, install's /etc/lilo.conf, when on sesktop make a fresh stanza to boot the first OS and reboot to that OS,where if you prefer to have the bootup done from the first OS /etc/lilo.conf, merely add a new stanza to boot the second OS and run /sbin/lilo to rewrite mbr lilo again. If you don't mind booting from the second OS /etc/lilo.conf then your merely have to add that stanza to boot the first OS. Sounds complicated but isn't. You must, I think, have the /boot partition on the first hda, I don't think it works putting it on the second hdb . I always put mine in as the frist partition on hda, but I don't think it's imperative anymore. John I don't have a problem understanding the above but whenever I try to add the second to the first or vice versa I get /sbin/lilo Fatal: Open /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.21-xxxmdk; no such file or directory. either way I go it is the same. I remember this problem in the past, it seems unable to see the correct image. Any help? It cannot find the kernel, I'm guessing here, but seems to me that you elected to have /boot as part of your /base in each OS , Yes ? If so, then you need to copy the kernel over to be with the /boot directory in the same OS where the /etc/lilo.conf is being read. You see I ellect to have a /bootpartition , so the installers in each OS automatically install the kernel and everything else in the same place and all is found correctly.Incidentally, you may have to copy more than the kernel, there is also the initrd files as well. Also don't forget to explicity define the kernel and initrd files with each stanza in /etc/lilo.conf here is my current /etc/lilo.conf boot=/dev/hda map=/boot/map install=/boot/boot.b vga=791 default=91-2.4.21.0 keytable=/boot/uk.klt lba32 prompt nowarn timeout=200 message=/boot/message menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw ignore-table image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.21-0.13mdk label=91-2.4.21.0 root=/dev/hda7 initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.21-0.13mdk.img append= quiet devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi hdd=ide-scsi acpi=on #append= quiet devfs=mount hdd=ide-scsi acpi=off vga=791 read-only image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.21-0.13mdk label=91-failsafe root=/dev/hda7 initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.21-0.13mdk.img append= quiet devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi hdd=ide-scsi acpi=off vga=ask read-only image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.21-0.13mdk label=91-nonfb root=/dev/hda7 initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.21-0.13mdk.img append= quiet devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi hdd=ide-scsi acpi=off vga=ask read-only image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.19-16mdk label=90-2.4,19-16 root=/dev/hda6 initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.19-16mdk.img append=quiet devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi hdd=ide-scsi nobiospnp vga=791 read-only image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.19-16mdk label=90-nonfb root=/dev/hda6 initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.19-16mdk.img append=quiet devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi hdd=ide-scsi nobiospnp vga=ask read-only image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.19-16mdk label=90-failsafe root=/dev/hda6 initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.19-16mdk.img append=quiet devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi hdd=ide-scsi nobiospnp vga=ask read-only other=/dev/hda1 label=W2000 table=/dev/hda other=/dev/fd0 label=floppy unsafe image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.21-0.22mdk label=M91-2.4.21.0.22 root=/dev/hda7 read-only optional vga=791 append= quiet devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi hdd=ide-scsi acpi=off initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.21-0.22mdk.img You will notice the last stanza is an experimental kernel. I find it is easiest to have a /boot partition. Hope I'm not telling you the obvious. John Thanks John, I appreciate the input and think that from now on I will have /boot partitions on all installs. Does it matter where you put it, as in the first or second partition? -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] two Mandrakes on two harddrives
Dennis Myers wrote: Thanks John, I appreciate the input and think that from now on I will have /boot partitions on all installs. Does it matter where you put it, as in the first or second partition? I always put mine on the first harddrive.Never had it on a second drive, I think it might not work there. It used to be necesary to be within 1024 cylinders(approx 8gigs), however I am told that does not matter any more, but again I've never tried it. when ever I set up a hard drive from the start I just add a suitable partition right at the front whether I turn it into a /boot partition or not, I shove the /swap in the middle for best data flow, the rest is to taste, and it does not matter which harddrive the rest of the partitions are put on , you just please yourself.Whatever happens to suit. I invariably devide the unused portions into convenient spare partitions and add lines in fstab to mount them. Dead handy to have these spare partitions. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] two Mandrakes on two harddrives
On Tuesday 29 Jul 2003 5:29 am, Dennis Myers wrote: On Monday 28 July 2003 10:46 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Tue, 2003-07-29 at 13:24, Dennis Myers wrote: Has anyone installed two MLinux on two seperate HDs on the same comp and figured out how to get lilo to read them both at boot? I am trying to do it so that I can beta test and yet run the regular system when I am not running tests. Any hints or manual suggestions are appreciated, I have not found anything to help. It would truly be a matter of properly writting out the /etc/lilo.conf of the first installation; the first installation would write the lilo to the MBR of the first HD; then after you've done all that wonderful jazz and gotten your primary installation up and running, do a second installation on the second drive, but choose to NOT write lilo; then make note of the boot partition for the second installation and whatnot, and then write that into the /etc/lilo.conf on the first drive. Thanks Stephen, that is essentially what I am trying to do, just not getting it right. I will try a clean install of the beta and not write lilo I think this is where I screwed up. Thanks again, Just wondering - if you installed to the second drive without the first attached and let it write its lilo, wouldn't that give you the info you need? Then re-attaching the first drive it would boot from the original lilo, Ithink, and you could add the necessary stanza? Or am I crazy g Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] two Mandrakes on two harddrives
Dennis Myers wrote: Has anyone installed two MLinux on two separate HDs on the same comp and figured out how to get lilo to read them both at boot? I am trying to do it so that I can beta test and yet run the regular system when I am not running tests. Any hints or manual suggestions are appreciated, I have not found anything to help. I haven't actually done this yet, since I'm still trying to finish my M9.1 before moving on. I assume you mean two identical Mandrake OS's or do you mean two mandrake OS's both different versions. If the second it's straight forward . If the first then the only real issue I am expecting , but this could be the same with the second option as well, is which version of the /etc/lilo.conf file is lilo to boot from. The last OS to be installed from a Mandrake install CD is where lilo.conf will be read, but you can easily change it back to the other OS's lilo.conf by booting to that OS and running /sbin/lilo from the command line. Two Mandrake OS's on separate hard drives is immaterial. Just adjust your boot scripts to suit. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] two Mandrakes on two harddrives
Dennis i have 4 on one disk. I call them: Windows - 98se Stable - mdk9.0 Tweak - mdk9.0 Update - mdk9.1 XFS partitions throughout the mdk stuff, with shared /home for s and t, one swap for all. 15 partitions total. I play with 9.1 but still don't like it except some apps that work better. I tweak the system in tweak and if i am happy with a change i put it in stable which is my working install. Thus i got the firewall up in tweak to my satisfaction before setting it up in stable etc. You have to format all partitions on the first install. There is provision to set other boot partitions during the expert install IIRC. But once you have them installed it still pays to check /etc/lilo.conf and fstab. With different kernals you must copy the different vmlinuz-XX and initrd- files to each /boot/. In my case i had to copy them from update/boot/ - stable/boot/ tweak/boot/, and from stable/boot/ to update/boot/. The last lilo you write out is the working one, but if each is not setup with the full partition map from day one, then the reboot options in kdm are splatted. I went in after install three and saved stable lilo as the real one. It actually was a lot easier than it sounds. Just sit down and map your partitions first. For two disks is should be much easier. On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 22:24:46 -0500 Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone installed two MLinux on two seperate HDs on the same comp and figured out how to get lilo to read them both at boot? I am trying to do it so that I can beta test and yet run the regular system when I am not running tests. Any hints or manual suggestions are appreciated, I have not found anything to help. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 -- Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] two Mandrakes on two harddrives
On Tuesday 29 Jul 2003 8:57 am, Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 29 Jul 2003 5:29 am, Dennis Myers wrote: On Monday 28 July 2003 10:46 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Tue, 2003-07-29 at 13:24, Dennis Myers wrote: Has anyone installed two MLinux on two seperate HDs on the same comp and figured out how to get lilo to read them both at boot? I am trying to do it so that I can beta test and yet run the regular system when I am not running tests. Any hints or manual suggestions are appreciated, I have not found anything to help. It would truly be a matter of properly writting out the /etc/lilo.conf of the first installation; the first installation would write the lilo to the MBR of the first HD; then after you've done all that wonderful jazz and gotten your primary installation up and running, do a second installation on the second drive, but choose to NOT write lilo; then make note of the boot partition for the second installation and whatnot, and then write that into the /etc/lilo.conf on the first drive. Thanks Stephen, that is essentially what I am trying to do, just not getting it right. I will try a clean install of the beta and not write lilo I think this is where I screwed up. Thanks again, Just wondering - if you installed to the second drive without the first attached and let it write its lilo, wouldn't that give you the info you need? Then re-attaching the first drive it would boot from the original lilo, Ithink, and you could add the necessary stanza? Or am I crazy g You would have to edit /etc/fstab on the second drive, because it would mount /dev/hda instead of /dev/hdb. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] two Mandrakes on two harddrives
On Tuesday 29 July 2003 05:21 am, John Richard Smith wrote: Dennis Myers wrote: Has anyone installed two MLinux on two separate HDs on the same comp and figured out how to get lilo to read them both at boot? I am trying to do it so that I can beta test and yet run the regular system when I am not running tests. Any hints or manual suggestions are appreciated, I have not found anything to help. I have a small 8GB drive with lilo installed, It has win98 and mandrake. I installed on this drive because my second drive is a raid 0 array. When I got the kernel compiled with the raid drivers I then copied the system to the raid array and added a section in lilo for it. On the array is win98, win2k, and mandrake each with an entry in LILO. THese are the ones I use. If the array gets hosed I can boot win98 or mandrake off the small drive and fix the problem i.e. re-compile the kernel or whatever. The main reason I do this is because I never could get lilo on the raid array, the 2 times I tried broke the array and lost the partitions. Or when I'd upgrade the kernel the raid driver had to be re-compiled. Jack Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] two Mandrakes on two harddrives
On Tuesday 29 Jul 2003 6:12 pm, Richard Urwin wrote: On Tuesday 29 Jul 2003 8:57 am, Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 29 Jul 2003 5:29 am, Dennis Myers wrote: On Monday 28 July 2003 10:46 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Tue, 2003-07-29 at 13:24, Dennis Myers wrote: Has anyone installed two MLinux on two seperate HDs on the same comp and figured out how to get lilo to read them both at boot? I am trying to do it so that I can beta test and yet run the regular system when I am not running tests. Any hints or manual suggestions are appreciated, I have not found anything to help. It would truly be a matter of properly writting out the /etc/lilo.conf of the first installation; the first installation would write the lilo to the MBR of the first HD; then after you've done all that wonderful jazz and gotten your primary installation up and running, do a second installation on the second drive, but choose to NOT write lilo; then make note of the boot partition for the second installation and whatnot, and then write that into the /etc/lilo.conf on the first drive. Thanks Stephen, that is essentially what I am trying to do, just not getting it right. I will try a clean install of the beta and not write lilo I think this is where I screwed up. Thanks again, Just wondering - if you installed to the second drive without the first attached and let it write its lilo, wouldn't that give you the info you need? Then re-attaching the first drive it would boot from the original lilo, Ithink, and you could add the necessary stanza? Or am I crazy g You would have to edit /etc/fstab on the second drive, because it would mount /dev/hda instead of /dev/hdb. Fair enough. I would think fstab would need some scrutinising, if you did something as drastic as that. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] two Mandrakes on two harddrives
Dennis Myers wrote: On Tuesday 29 July 2003 02:57 am, Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 29 Jul 2003 5:29 am, Dennis Myers wrote: On Monday 28 July 2003 10:46 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Tue, 2003-07-29 at 13:24, Dennis Myers wrote: Has anyone installed two MLinux on two seperate HDs on the same comp and figured out how to get lilo to read them both at boot? I am trying to do it so that I can beta test and yet run the regular system when I am not running tests. Any hints or manual suggestions are appreciated, I have not found anything to help. It would truly be a matter of properly writting out the /etc/lilo.conf of the first installation; the first installation would write the lilo to the MBR of the first HD; then after you've done all that wonderful jazz and gotten your primary installation up and running, do a second installation on the second drive, but choose to NOT write lilo; then make note of the boot partition for the second installation and whatnot, and then write that into the /etc/lilo.conf on the first drive. Thanks Stephen, that is essentially what I am trying to do, just not getting it right. I will try a clean install of the beta and not write lilo I think this is where I screwed up. Thanks again, Just wondering - if you installed to the second drive without the first attached and let it write its lilo, wouldn't that give you the info you need? Then re-attaching the first drive it would boot from the original lilo, Ithink, and you could add the necessary stanza? Or am I crazy g Anne I tried that a while back and ran into a problem with the kernel image not being on hda, caused a kernel panic for the second OS boot. I am not having much luck here, if I format both disks when installing the first OS it won't let me name the 2nd harddrive other than /tmp or /var/www etc. So I know this can be done and civileme tried to explain how to do it using a /obj partition, but I must be to dense to figure that one out. I can not name two / partitions or two /home etc without getting a conflict. So anyone see how my head is screwed on backwards? I must say I don't actually have one /home partition, I just let each OS have a /home directory as part of / base , so my experience is not the same as yours, but having said that, I cannot see why you need two /home partitions anyway. I do have a /boot partition which keeps that simple. I take it you have all your partitioning done with mandrake's diskdrake, so diskdrake ought to just recognise the second drive and designate it hdb, it always has for me. I then click on the second tab for hdb and begin to partition as required, if this the second OS install , I designate the /base partition , format and proceed to install. You already have a /swap so that's ok, When your done installing you don't seem to have choice these days and have to install a new lilo which will boot up initially from the last , that is second OS, install's /etc/lilo.conf, when on sesktop make a fresh stanza to boot the first OS and reboot to that OS,where if you prefer to have the bootup done from the first OS /etc/lilo.conf, merely add a new stanza to boot the second OS and run /sbin/lilo to rewrite mbr lilo again. If you don't mind booting from the second OS /etc/lilo.conf then your merely have to add that stanza to boot the first OS. Sounds complicated but isn't. You must, I think, have the /boot partition on the first hda, I don't think it works putting it on the second hdb . I always put mine in as the frist partition on hda, but I don't think it's imperative anymore. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] two Mandrakes on two harddrives
On Tuesday 29 July 2003 07:32 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: Dennis Myers wrote: On Tuesday 29 July 2003 02:57 am, Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 29 Jul 2003 5:29 am, Dennis Myers wrote: On Monday 28 July 2003 10:46 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Tue, 2003-07-29 at 13:24, Dennis Myers wrote: Has anyone installed two MLinux on two seperate HDs on the same comp and figured out how to get lilo to read them both at boot? I am trying to do it so that I can beta test and yet run the regular system when I am not running tests. Any hints or manual suggestions are appreciated, I have not found anything to help. It would truly be a matter of properly writting out the /etc/lilo.conf of the first installation; the first installation would write the lilo to the MBR of the first HD; then after you've done all that wonderful jazz and gotten your primary installation up and running, do a second installation on the second drive, but choose to NOT write lilo; then make note of the boot partition for the second installation and whatnot, and then write that into the /etc/lilo.conf on the first drive. Thanks Stephen, that is essentially what I am trying to do, just not getting it right. I will try a clean install of the beta and not write lilo I think this is where I screwed up. Thanks again, Just wondering - if you installed to the second drive without the first attached and let it write its lilo, wouldn't that give you the info you need? Then re-attaching the first drive it would boot from the original lilo, Ithink, and you could add the necessary stanza? Or am I crazy g Anne I tried that a while back and ran into a problem with the kernel image not being on hda, caused a kernel panic for the second OS boot. I am not having much luck here, if I format both disks when installing the first OS it won't let me name the 2nd harddrive other than /tmp or /var/www etc. So I know this can be done and civileme tried to explain how to do it using a /obj partition, but I must be to dense to figure that one out. I can not name two / partitions or two /home etc without getting a conflict. So anyone see how my head is screwed on backwards? I must say I don't actually have one /home partition, I just let each OS have a /home directory as part of / base , so my experience is not the same as yours, but having said that, I cannot see why you need two /home partitions anyway. I do have a /boot partition which keeps that simple. I take it you have all your partitioning done with mandrake's diskdrake, so diskdrake ought to just recognise the second drive and designate it hdb, it always has for me. I then click on the second tab for hdb and begin to partition as required, if this the second OS install , I designate the /base partition , format and proceed to install. You already have a /swap so that's ok, When your done installing you don't seem to have choice these days and have to install a new lilo which will boot up initially from the last , that is second OS, install's /etc/lilo.conf, when on sesktop make a fresh stanza to boot the first OS and reboot to that OS,where if you prefer to have the bootup done from the first OS /etc/lilo.conf, merely add a new stanza to boot the second OS and run /sbin/lilo to rewrite mbr lilo again. If you don't mind booting from the second OS /etc/lilo.conf then your merely have to add that stanza to boot the first OS. Sounds complicated but isn't. You must, I think, have the /boot partition on the first hda, I don't think it works putting it on the second hdb . I always put mine in as the frist partition on hda, but I don't think it's imperative anymore. John I don't have a problem understanding the above but whenever I try to add the second to the first or vice versa I get /sbin/lilo Fatal: Open /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.21-xxxmdk; no such file or directory. either way I go it is the same. I remember this problem in the past, it seems unable to see the correct image. Any help? -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] two Mandrakes on two harddrives
On Monday 28 July 2003 10:46 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Tue, 2003-07-29 at 13:24, Dennis Myers wrote: Has anyone installed two MLinux on two seperate HDs on the same comp and figured out how to get lilo to read them both at boot? I am trying to do it so that I can beta test and yet run the regular system when I am not running tests. Any hints or manual suggestions are appreciated, I have not found anything to help. It would truly be a matter of properly writting out the /etc/lilo.conf of the first installation; the first installation would write the lilo to the MBR of the first HD; then after you've done all that wonderful jazz and gotten your primary installation up and running, do a second installation on the second drive, but choose to NOT write lilo; then make note of the boot partition for the second installation and whatnot, and then write that into the /etc/lilo.conf on the first drive. OK, I don't know for sure what I did differently this time but after two reinstalls of both 9.1 and 9.2beta1 and three rewrites of lilo.conf I have a viable lilo boot screen. The last time I rewrote lilo and then mounted the /dev/hdc1 to /mnt/linux-0 and then did /sbin/lilo. I have no idea if there is a need for this sequence or not. I also installed 9.1 on hda and in diskdrake left hdc blank. Then when I went to install 9.2 on hdc I had a blank partition table to write to. Also unknown if this was necessary. But it works now. Stubborn to a fault or just persistent, I prefer the latter when describing my temperament. But it works! -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] two Mandrakes on two harddrives
Has anyone installed two MLinux on two seperate HDs on the same comp and figured out how to get lilo to read them both at boot? I am trying to do it so that I can beta test and yet run the regular system when I am not running tests. Any hints or manual suggestions are appreciated, I have not found anything to help. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] two Mandrakes on two harddrives
On Tue, 2003-07-29 at 13:24, Dennis Myers wrote: Has anyone installed two MLinux on two seperate HDs on the same comp and figured out how to get lilo to read them both at boot? I am trying to do it so that I can beta test and yet run the regular system when I am not running tests. Any hints or manual suggestions are appreciated, I have not found anything to help. It would truly be a matter of properly writting out the /etc/lilo.conf of the first installation; the first installation would write the lilo to the MBR of the first HD; then after you've done all that wonderful jazz and gotten your primary installation up and running, do a second installation on the second drive, but choose to NOT write lilo; then make note of the boot partition for the second installation and whatnot, and then write that into the /etc/lilo.conf on the first drive. -- Tue Jul 29 13:40:00 EST 2003 13:40:00 up 15 days, 5:43, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.24, 0.51 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+ RH 9 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Once the toothpaste is out of the tube, it's hard to get it back in. -- H.R. Haldeman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] two Mandrakes on two harddrives
On Monday 28 July 2003 10:46 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Tue, 2003-07-29 at 13:24, Dennis Myers wrote: Has anyone installed two MLinux on two seperate HDs on the same comp and figured out how to get lilo to read them both at boot? I am trying to do it so that I can beta test and yet run the regular system when I am not running tests. Any hints or manual suggestions are appreciated, I have not found anything to help. It would truly be a matter of properly writting out the /etc/lilo.conf of the first installation; the first installation would write the lilo to the MBR of the first HD; then after you've done all that wonderful jazz and gotten your primary installation up and running, do a second installation on the second drive, but choose to NOT write lilo; then make note of the boot partition for the second installation and whatnot, and then write that into the /etc/lilo.conf on the first drive. Thanks Stephen, that is essentially what I am trying to do, just not getting it right. I will try a clean install of the beta and not write lilo I think this is where I screwed up. Thanks again, -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
