Re: [newbie] I just love it
On Monday 24 January 2005 04:36 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Thanks, will do. I like to leave this puter in linux at night anyway. > The screensaver gives off more light to see my way to the john. It is > also a nice level to wake your eyes up to. I use the linux slide show as > screensaver. I hadn't thought of that feature ;-) Rule:17 If it's stupid and it works, it ain't stupid. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] I just love it
Thanks, will do. I like to leave this puter in linux at night anyway. The screensaver gives off more light to see my way to the john. It is also a nice level to wake your eyes up to. I use the linux slide show as screensaver. On 24 Jan 2005 at 12:52, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >I can tell you this much, the output is supposed to be three files of > > information about the modem possibilities. I figured it was wrong > > somewhere because of that and the gcc thing. I guess I need to know about > > that also. I will try researching it on this end. Maybe that would make > > it work right. > > > Looking at the script, it will work without gcc. It just can not fill in > part of the information. But you do have a problem. The script is > designed to be run on a Linux partition, and not a Windows partition. So > it may not have created the modem directory, and the files under it. You > can see if you have a modem directory in your home directory. If so, it > will have a bunch of files you should read. > > Mikkel > -- > >Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, > for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] I just love it
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can tell you this much, the output is supposed to be three files of information about the modem possibilities. I figured it was wrong somewhere because of that and the gcc thing. I guess I need to know about that also. I will try researching it on this end. Maybe that would make it work right. Looking at the script, it will work without gcc. It just can not fill in part of the information. But you do have a problem. The script is designed to be run on a Linux partition, and not a Windows partition. So it may not have created the modem directory, and the files under it. You can see if you have a modem directory in your home directory. If so, it will have a bunch of files you should read. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] I just love it
I can tell you this much, the output is supposed to be three files of information about the modem possibilities. I figured it was wrong somewhere because of that and the gcc thing. I guess I need to know about that also. I will try researching it on this end. Maybe that would make it work right. On 23 Jan 2005 at 20:10, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > What I went through to import this output into this message you > >wouldn't believe. First I typed it into my laptop, then saved it to a > >floppy. Lastly my mail program allowed me to import it to a message. > > Anyhoo this is the output I got from scandisk as well as > >I could copy it, caps included. I hope someone can tell me what all this > >means. I hope it means the modem will work under linux so I won't have to > >go out and buy another one. > > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] /mnt/windows/temp/scanmodem chmod +x scanModem > > > > > > > If this is what you typed in as a command, it doesn't make much sense. > You are trying to run the command "scanmodem" in the "/mnt/windows/temp" > directory, and you are passing it "chmod", "+x", and "scanModem" as > command line options. > > >UPDATE=_Jan_18 > > > >/mnt/windows/temp/scanmodem: gcc: command not found > > > > > scanmodem tried to compile something, but you do not have the gcc > compiler package installed. > > >Providing detail for device at PCI_bus 00:4.0 > > with vendor-ID:device-ID > > : > >Class 0780: e159:0001 Communications controler: Tiger Jet Network Inc. > >Model 3 > >00 128k > > SubSystem 8086:0003 Intel Corp.: Unknown device 0003 > > Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 66, IRQ 11 > > I/O ports at 2400 [size=256] > > Memory at 4110 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] > > > > -PCI_IDs- > > Feature List: Primary Subsystem Distr KernelVer kernel default CPU > >./scanModem test e159:0001 8086:0003 mandrake 2.4.18-6mdk 2.96 i686 > > > > The soft modem Subsystem operates under a controller > > e159:0001 Tiger Jet > > capable of supporting under Linux AT LEAST modem Subsystem chips from > >manufactures: > > Intel > > > > > > > It sounds like it may be supported. Unless someone know the modem, it is > hard to say. With the error message at the start of the script, I am not > sure how valid the output is. I will have to take a look at the script > and let you know. Probably sometime tomorrow. > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] jim]$ run scandisk.gz > >bash: run command not found > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] jim]$ > > > > > > > > > > > I am not sure what you are trying to do with "run scandisk.gz". "run" > is not usually a program on a Linux system. It is also not a built in > shell command. The other thing is that you normally can not execute a > compressed file. If you are trying what I think you are trying, it would > be like typing "run test.zip" at the DOS prompt. > > Mikkel > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] I just love it
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I went through to import this output into this message you wouldn't believe. First I typed it into my laptop, then saved it to a floppy. Lastly my mail program allowed me to import it to a message. Anyhoo this is the output I got from scandisk as well as I could copy it, caps included. I hope someone can tell me what all this means. I hope it means the modem will work under linux so I won't have to go out and buy another one. [EMAIL PROTECTED] /mnt/windows/temp/scanmodem chmod +x scanModem If this is what you typed in as a command, it doesn't make much sense. You are trying to run the command "scanmodem" in the "/mnt/windows/temp" directory, and you are passing it "chmod", "+x", and "scanModem" as command line options. UPDATE=_Jan_18 /mnt/windows/temp/scanmodem: gcc: command not found scanmodem tried to compile something, but you do not have the gcc compiler package installed. Providing detail for device at PCI_bus 00:4.0 with vendor-ID:device-ID : Class 0780: e159:0001 Communications controler: Tiger Jet Network Inc. Model 3 00 128k SubSystem 8086:0003 Intel Corp.: Unknown device 0003 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 66, IRQ 11 I/O ports at 2400 [size=256] Memory at 4110 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] -PCI_IDs- Feature List: Primary Subsystem Distr KernelVer kernel default CPU ./scanModem test e159:0001 8086:0003 mandrake 2.4.18-6mdk 2.96 i686 The soft modem Subsystem operates under a controller e159:0001 Tiger Jet capable of supporting under Linux AT LEAST modem Subsystem chips from manufactures: Intel It sounds like it may be supported. Unless someone know the modem, it is hard to say. With the error message at the start of the script, I am not sure how valid the output is. I will have to take a look at the script and let you know. Probably sometime tomorrow. [EMAIL PROTECTED] jim]$ run scandisk.gz bash: run command not found [EMAIL PROTECTED] jim]$ I am not sure what you are trying to do with "run scandisk.gz". "run" is not usually a program on a Linux system. It is also not a built in shell command. The other thing is that you normally can not execute a compressed file. If you are trying what I think you are trying, it would be like typing "run test.zip" at the DOS prompt. Mikkel Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] I just love it
On Sunday 23 January 2005 20:31, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >By golly ,it worked. It is in linux now. Now I have to > figure out how to gunzip it. I assume it is done in a terminal, > but as super user, root, or just plain me. >Thanks for the drag and drop hint. It was telling me > something about can't read it, but when I looked the file was > there. Jallan, I'm a little late into this thread, but just two things : 1. Please bottom-post (standard here, more readable). 2. You can decompress (unzip) in the command line, by typing : "gunzip <-options> filename" - that is if you have gzip installed. Or, in konqueror (if you use KDE), just right-click the file and choose Action-->Extract here. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] I just love it
By golly ,it worked. It is in linux now. Now I have to figure out how to gunzip it. I assume it is done in a terminal, but as super user, root, or just plain me. Thanks for the drag and drop hint. It was telling me something about can't read it, but when I looked the file was there. On 23 Jan 2005 at 0:43, Richard Urwin wrote: > On Saturday 22 Jan 2005 12:14 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >OK! It seems like more than one of you are suggesting I > > substitute something for the "a". I guess if I can see it then cp is > > the better route. If it works it shows some of our instructors need > > to go back to school or something. > > culatr2da = see you later today See I can get cryptic also:>) > > Don't get too hung up on the command line. > You can always open the floppy icon and the home icon on your desktop > and drag the file from the floppy to your home. > > -- > Richard Urwin > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] I just love it
On Saturday 22 Jan 2005 12:14 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >OK! It seems like more than one of you are suggesting I > substitute something for the "a". I guess if I can see it then cp is > the better route. If it works it shows some of our instructors need > to go back to school or something. > culatr2da = see you later today See I can get cryptic also:>) Don't get too hung up on the command line. You can always open the floppy icon and the home icon on your desktop and drag the file from the floppy to your home. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] I just love it
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Still doesn't work. GR! This is exactly what I see as the path to the file. root mnt windows temp scanModem.gz I tried in super user mode and logged on as root. It still won't work. Maybe I should rename the file frustration.xxx:>) I will probably have bought a new external modem before I get this thing to work. I did remember to caps the m as in Modem. The error is still no such file. Is it possible I need to add the linux equivalent to c:/? If so, what is it? It seems to be the only thing missing from a dos equivalent of the same commands. The reasion there is not equivelent to c:\ is that Linux uses one big file system. Drives are files. They can be mounted almost anyware. With Mandrake, C:\ is usualy mounted on /mnt/windows, but it doesn't have to be. Now, your file should be, from the information you have given me, at /mnt/windows/temp with a file name of scanModem.gz. I think the problem you are running into is that the file name is not exactly what you told us it was before. Under Linux, scanmodem.gz in NOT the same file as scanModem.gz. So, instead of using: cp /mnt/windows/temp/scanmodem.gz scanmodem.gz use cp /mnt/windows/temp/scanModem.gz scanmodem.gz The difference is the capital M in the file name. A small thing, but an important one. (Just like the difference between \ for DOS/Windows and / for Linux in path names, or the way : and ; are used. The funny part is that the UNIX usage is older, but people from the DOS/Windows world have to learn a "new" way of doing things...) Mikkel Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] I just love it
On Saturday 22 January 2005 08:43 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Still doesn't work. GR! This is exactly what I see as the path to > the file. > root > mnt > windows >temp > scanModem.gz >I tried in super user mode and logged on as root. It still won't work. > Maybe I should rename the file frustration.xxx:>) I will probably have > bought a new external modem before I get this thing to work. I did > remember to caps the m as in Modem. The error is still no such file. Is > it possible I need to add the linux equivalent to c:/? If so, what is it? > It seems to be the only thing missing from a dos equivalent of the same > commands. well, the forward slash "/" is as far up the folder as it goes. the real problems may be that /mnt/windows does not exist as exactly that spelling, but if you are in a text console anyway, you can use the tab key to find possible completions, so type (without the quote marks) ; "/mnt/w" then hit the tab key it will then spell out all the options in /mnt/* that start with a small 'w' mine looks like this ;" /mnt/w win_ win_2win_cwin_c2 win_cd windows [EMAIL PROTECTED] et]# /mnt/win " Here it is waiting for me to add the next letter, and hit tab again, so I add the under score; "/mnt/win_ win_win_2 win_c win_c2 win_cd [EMAIL PROTECTED] et]#/mnt/win_ " see what you get, and if that helps any. write back if you need more info... -- linux counter #167806 (http://counter.li.org/) website="http://ed-tharp.kicks-ass.org"; Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] I just love it
OK! It seems like more than one of you are suggesting I substitute something for the "a". I guess if I can see it then cp is the better route. If it works it shows some of our instructors need to go back to school or something. culatr2da = see you later today See I can get cryptic also:>) On 21 Jan 2005 at 18:08, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Handy explanation and it makes sense. I found out my problem is still > >getting the file from either the floppy or the windows side of this beast. > > Maybe when I get it into linux, then I can gunzip it and proceed. I just > >can't make mcopy work. In my home directory I can look to windows to temp > >to the file. I can find it but not copy it to linux. I have been in > >computers since radio shack came out with it's first 4k system for the > >public. It's frustating that I can't even copy a file from one location > >to another. > > > > > > > Well, mcopy is for copying files from an unmounted DOS/Windows floppy, > and not a general copy program. If you can see the file from Linux, then > you can use the "cp" command to do it. (It is like the DOS copy > command.) If the file is in /mnt/windows/temp/ then try this: > > cp /mnt/windows/temp/scanmodem.gz scanmodem.gz > > This will copy scanmodem to the current directory. Or, if you are a > Norton Commander fan, you can try Midnight Commander. It is started with > the command "mc". (Without the "s.) > > You may find this a handy reference. > DOS Linux > > dir ls > copy cp > attrib chmod > delrm > cd cd > > Just remember, case does matter in Linux, but does not in DOS. > > Let me know how it goes. > > Mikkel > > PS - I started playing with computers before Radio Shack started selling > them. > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] I just love it
Eric Huff wrote: What is this a:scanmodem.gz stuff? I just tried it on mine and as expected, linux doesn't do anything with a: Mine would be /mnt/floppy/scanmodem.gz When running properly I believe it is supposed to read and print out what chip set you have in a winmodem. Very helpful in trying to get linux to see the modem. I meant the a: part. I haven't seen a: used under linux anywhere. I think you want to use /mnt/floppy or some such. The a: part is because of the use of mcopy. It is part of the mtools package that allows access to MS-DOS drives and floppies. Exactly what a: referes to is definded in the config file, but the default is /dev/fd0. c: is usualy a file on the drive that is accessed like a hard drive. The thing about mtools is that when you are working with floppies, you normaly are working with an UNMOUNTED floppy. They were more usefull before things like aumounting of floppies, or when you didn't want to allow users to mount the floppy drive. But they are still handy for emulated DOS drives used with dosumu. Mikkel Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] I just love it
> > What is this a:scanmodem.gz stuff? I just tried it on mine and > > as expected, linux doesn't do anything with a: > > > > Mine would be /mnt/floppy/scanmodem.gz >When running properly I believe it is supposed to read and >print out > what chip set you have in a winmodem. Very helpful in trying to > get linux to see the modem. I meant the a: part. I haven't seen a: used under linux anywhere. I think you want to use /mnt/floppy or some such. -- Mandrake HowTo's & More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] I just love it
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Handy explanation and it makes sense. I found out my problem is still getting the file from either the floppy or the windows side of this beast. Maybe when I get it into linux, then I can gunzip it and proceed. I just can't make mcopy work. In my home directory I can look to windows to temp to the file. I can find it but not copy it to linux. I have been in computers since radio shack came out with it's first 4k system for the public. It's frustating that I can't even copy a file from one location to another. Well, mcopy is for copying files from an unmounted DOS/Windows floppy, and not a general copy program. If you can see the file from Linux, then you can use the "cp" command to do it. (It is like the DOS copy command.) If the file is in /mnt/windows/temp/ then try this: cp /mnt/windows/temp/scanmodem.gz scanmodem.gz This will copy scanmodem to the current directory. Or, if you are a Norton Commander fan, you can try Midnight Commander. It is started with the command "mc". (Without the "s.) You may find this a handy reference. DOS Linux dir ls copy cp attrib chmod delrm cd cd Just remember, case does matter in Linux, but does not in DOS. Let me know how it goes. Mikkel PS - I started playing with computers before Radio Shack started selling them. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] I just love it
Handy explanation and it makes sense. I found out my problem is still getting the file from either the floppy or the windows side of this beast. Maybe when I get it into linux, then I can gunzip it and proceed. I just can't make mcopy work. In my home directory I can look to windows to temp to the file. I can find it but not copy it to linux. I have been in computers since radio shack came out with it's first 4k system for the public. It's frustating that I can't even copy a file from one location to another. > > > OH! Then chmod involves an already decompressed file. I wasn't > >aware of that but I believe it. I knew scanmodem.gz. was a zipped file, > >but I did not know it had to be uzipped before chmod, whatever it's > >function, could act upon it. Thanks I will definitely try that. > > > > > > > Well, you were trying to run chmod on scanmodem, but the file scanmodem > is not the same as scanmodem.gz. So chmod failed. When you uncompress > the file using gunzip, it changes the name of the file as part of the > process. It normaly restores the origional name of the file. Thus > .gz becomes , .tgz becomes .tar, and so on. > (While you could have run "chmod +x scanmodem.gz" and it would have > worked, it doesn't realy make sence to make a compressed file executable.) > > chmode changes the "mode" of the file. While Windows uses the extension > of a file to determine if it is executable, Linux uses the mode of the > file. And because Linux is designed to be multi-user, you actualy have 3 > levels of "mode". You have the mode for the "owner" of the file, the > mode for the "group" of the file, and the mode for everyone else. This > allows you do do things like have a file that can only be run by the > "owner", can be written and read by the "owner", users in the same group > as the file, and can be read by everyone. > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] I just love it
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OH! Then chmod involves an already decompressed file. I wasn't aware of that but I believe it. I knew scanmodem.gz. was a zipped file, but I did not know it had to be uzipped before chmod, whatever it's function, could act upon it. Thanks I will definitely try that. Well, you were trying to run chmod on scanmodem, but the file scanmodem is not the same as scanmodem.gz. So chmod failed. When you uncompress the file using gunzip, it changes the name of the file as part of the process. It normaly restores the origional name of the file. Thus .gz becomes , .tgz becomes .tar, and so on. (While you could have run "chmod +x scanmodem.gz" and it would have worked, it doesn't realy make sence to make a compressed file executable.) chmode changes the "mode" of the file. While Windows uses the extension of a file to determine if it is executable, Linux uses the mode of the file. And because Linux is designed to be multi-user, you actualy have 3 levels of "mode". You have the mode for the "owner" of the file, the mode for the "group" of the file, and the mode for everyone else. This allows you do do things like have a file that can only be run by the "owner", can be written and read by the "owner", users in the same group as the file, and can be read by everyone. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] I just love it
As I said in another post, mcopy finally worked AFTER I deleted a directory named winDmodem, Why I don't know. I would expect it to ignore the presence of other directories. It should have worked as it finally did. On 21 Jan 2005 at 10:09, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Nope, that didn't work either. All variations, including those on > > the same hard drive, fail to get past mcopy. Hmmm, could it be since > > I ran mcopy from a run box that the file is there but the message > > only says it can/t read the file. I suppose it's worth a try when I > > wake up again this am. I always fall asleep for another hour after > > breakfast. > > > What do you get when you run mcopy? It could be that mtools are not > installed on your machine. > Try this - in place of "mcopy a:scanmodem.gz", try "cp > /mnt/floppy/scanmodem.gz scanmodem.gz" and see if that works. > > If it doesn't work, let us know the error message. Also, let us know the > output of "ls /mnt/floppy". Be sure the floppy with scanmodem.gz is in > the drive when running both commands. > > Mikkel > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] I just love it
When running properly I believe it is supposed to read and print out what chip set you have in a winmodem. Very helpful in trying to get linux to see the modem. On 21 Jan 2005 at 7:46, Eric Huff wrote: > > > You may have to run "su" before running ./scanmodem - I don't > > > remember if it will run as a normal user. > > > All the instructions are for running in the command line > > > interface, and not from X, so you nead a terminal window, or you > > > need to drop to the command line. Now, as to what the commands > > > do: > > > > > > mkdiw Wmodem - Creates a new directory off your > > > home directory. > > > cd Wmodem - Changes to that directory. > > > mcopy a:scanmodem.gz - Coppies the file scanmodem.gz > > > from a FAT formatted floppy. > > > gunzip scanmodem.gz- Uncompresses the fiel > > > scanmodem.gz (to scanmodem) > > > chmod +x scanmodem - makes the file scanmodem > > > executable../scanmodem - runs the file > > > scanmodem in the current directory. > > >Nope, that didn't work either. All variations, including those > >on the > > same hard drive, fail to get past mcopy. Hmmm, could it be since > > I ran mcopy from a run box that the file is there but the message > > only says it can/t read the file. > > What is this a:scanmodem.gz stuff? I just tried it on mine and as > expected, linux doesn't do anything with a: > > Mine would be /mnt/floppy/scanmodem.gz > > eric > > -- > Mandrake HowTo's & More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] I just love it
OH! Then chmod involves an already decompressed file. I wasn't aware of that but I believe it. I knew scanmodem.gz. was a zipped file, but I did not know it had to be uzipped before chmod, whatever it's function, could act upon it. Thanks I will definitely try that. On 21 Jan 2005 at 11:45, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > HAD a problem with the following sequence of commands. mkdir winmodem > > cd winmodem > > mcopy a:scandisk.gz.***the file didn't existyes it did > > You missed one step. > gunzip scanmodem.gz > > > chmod +x scanmodem > > ./scanmodem Looking at the note above you > > can see the file couldn't be found. The solution, impossible as it > > would seem was that I deleted the director winDmodem I had > > accidentally created. I tried the mcopy again and got no error. > > AHHAA! Tried a dir command in winmodem, which previously produced > > nothing, and bingo the filev was now there. I wouldn't have believed > > it had someone told me that was the problem. Now there is another > > problem the chmod command fails to find attributes because it can't > > find any or the file. Anybody know what is wrong there? Could x not > > be installed/configured or something else. > > > > > > > Even simpler - scanmodem does not exist. You forgot to uncompress > scanmodem.gz to scanmodem. So there is no file "scanmodem" to make > executable. > > Mikkel > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] I just love it
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HAD a problem with the following sequence of commands. mkdir winmodem cd winmodem > mcopy a:scandisk.gz.***the file didn't existyes it did You missed one step. gunzip scanmodem.gz > chmod +x scanmodem > ./scanmodem Looking at the note above you can see the file couldn't be found. The solution, impossible as it would seem was that I deleted the director winDmodem I had accidentally created. I tried the mcopy again and got no error. AHHAA! Tried a dir command in winmodem, which previously produced nothing, and bingo the filev was now there. I wouldn't have believed it had someone told me that was the problem. Now there is another problem the chmod command fails to find attributes because it can't find any or the file. Anybody know what is wrong there? Could x not be installed/configured or something else. Even simpler - scanmodem does not exist. You forgot to uncompress scanmodem.gz to scanmodem. So there is no file "scanmodem" to make executable. Mikkel Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] I just love it
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nope, that didn't work either. All variations, including those on the same hard drive, fail to get past mcopy. Hmmm, could it be since I ran mcopy from a run box that the file is there but the message only says it can/t read the file. I suppose it's worth a try when I wake up again this am. I always fall asleep for another hour after breakfast. What do you get when you run mcopy? It could be that mtools are not installed on your machine. Try this - in place of "mcopy a:scanmodem.gz", try "cp /mnt/floppy/scanmodem.gz scanmodem.gz" and see if that works. If it doesn't work, let us know the error message. Also, let us know the output of "ls /mnt/floppy". Be sure the floppy with scanmodem.gz is in the drive when running both commands. Mikkel Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
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> > You may have to run "su" before running ./scanmodem - I don't > > remember if it will run as a normal user. > > All the instructions are for running in the command line > > interface, and not from X, so you nead a terminal window, or you > > need to drop to the command line. Now, as to what the commands > > do: > > > > mkdiw Wmodem - Creates a new directory off your > > home directory. > > cd Wmodem - Changes to that directory. > > mcopy a:scanmodem.gz - Coppies the file scanmodem.gz > > from a FAT formatted floppy. > > gunzip scanmodem.gz- Uncompresses the fiel > > scanmodem.gz (to scanmodem) > > chmod +x scanmodem - makes the file scanmodem > > executable../scanmodem - runs the file > > scanmodem in the current directory. >Nope, that didn't work either. All variations, including those >on the > same hard drive, fail to get past mcopy. Hmmm, could it be since > I ran mcopy from a run box that the file is there but the message > only says it can/t read the file. What is this a:scanmodem.gz stuff? I just tried it on mine and as expected, linux doesn't do anything with a: Mine would be /mnt/floppy/scanmodem.gz eric -- Mandrake HowTo's & More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
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Nope, that didn't work either. All variations, including those on the same hard drive, fail to get past mcopy. Hmmm, could it be since I ran mcopy from a run box that the file is there but the message only says it can/t read the file. I suppose it's worth a try when I wake up again this am. I always fall asleep for another hour after breakfast. On 20 Jan 2005 at 13:07, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > The instructions say to > >1: in windows download this file to a floppy > >2: in linux type these commands > > 2a: mcopy scanmodem.gz. ;should be a:mcopy a:.gz. I assumed it meant in > > a > > run box and it did not complain > > 2b: gunzip scanmodem.gz ;they never say where, run box or shell > > 3a: chmod +x scanmodem ;same thing > > 4a: ./scanmodem ;again where > > > > When talking to dummies or unknown they should say where to enter the > >commands or if it is all one line in a run box. > >HHEELLPP! Sheesh. Does anybody know how this is done after the file has > >been downloaded to a floppy? > > > > > Try something like this... > > Open a terminal window in Linux > Put the floppy you made in Windows in "drive A:" > Type these commands: > mkdir Wmodem > cd Wmodem > mcopy a:scanmodem.gz > gnuzip scanmodem.gz > chmod +x scanmodem > ./scanmodem > > You may have to run "su" before running ./scanmodem - I don't remember > if it will run as a normal user. > All the instructions are for running in the command line interface, and > not from X, so you nead a terminal window, or you need to drop to the > command line. Now, as to what the commands do: > > mkdiw Wmodem - Creates a new directory off your home > directory. > cd Wmodem - Changes to that directory. > mcopy a:scanmodem.gz - Coppies the file scanmodem.gz from a FAT > formatted floppy. > gunzip scanmodem.gz- Uncompresses the fiel scanmodem.gz (to > scanmodem) > chmod +x scanmodem - makes the file scanmodem executable. > ./scanmodem - runs the file scanmodem in the > current directory. > > I hope this helps. Most of these instructions assume you are running > from the command line, or a terminal in X. Unless they specificly tell > you to run the commands from a "run box", run them from a terminal, or > from the command line interface. This is especialy true when running a > series of commands, as the next command normaly depends on the results > of the previus command. > > Mikkel > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You present some interesting possibilities. It sounds just like m$dos5.0 or such. Gunzip being similar to pkunzip and chmod might be change mode. All this came from the linmodems site. I think I will try their directions as you say on a cmd line one after the other with returns in between. Trying each set of directions means somebody will get it right:>) The command line interface (CLI) is actualy older. It predates MSDOS. But for this type of task, it works better then a GUI. Besides, writing instructions for the CLI is easer then writing instructios for the GUI when you can not be sure what GUI the person is going to be running, or even if the machine it is being run on has a GUI yet. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
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You present some interesting possibilities. It sounds just like m$dos5.0 or such. Gunzip being similar to pkunzip and chmod might be change mode. All this came from the linmodems site. I think I will try their directions as you say on a cmd line one after the other with returns in between. Trying each set of directions means somebody will get it right:>) > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > The instructions say to > >1: in windows download this file to a floppy > >2: in linux type these commands > > 2a: mcopy scanmodem.gz. ;should be a:mcopy a:.gz. I assumed it meant in > > a > > run box and it did not complain > > 2b: gunzip scanmodem.gz ;they never say where, run box or shell > > 3a: chmod +x scanmodem ;same thing > > 4a: ./scanmodem ;again where > > > > When talking to dummies or unknown they should say where to enter the > >commands or if it is all one line in a run box. > >HHEELLPP! Sheesh. Does anybody know how this is done after the file has > >been downloaded to a floppy? > > > > > Try something like this... > > Open a terminal window in Linux > Put the floppy you made in Windows in "drive A:" > Type these commands: > mkdir Wmodem > cd Wmodem > mcopy a:scanmodem.gz > gnuzip scanmodem.gz > chmod +x scanmodem > ./scanmodem > > You may have to run "su" before running ./scanmodem - I don't remember > if it will run as a normal user. > All the instructions are for running in the command line interface, and > not from X, so you nead a terminal window, or you need to drop to the > command line. Now, as to what the commands do: > > mkdiw Wmodem - Creates a new directory off your home > directory. > cd Wmodem - Changes to that directory. > mcopy a:scanmodem.gz - Coppies the file scanmodem.gz from a FAT > formatted floppy. > gunzip scanmodem.gz- Uncompresses the fiel scanmodem.gz (to > scanmodem) > chmod +x scanmodem - makes the file scanmodem executable. > ./scanmodem - runs the file scanmodem in the > current directory. > > I hope this helps. Most of these instructions assume you are running > from the command line, or a terminal in X. Unless they specificly tell > you to run the commands from a "run box", run them from a terminal, or > from the command line interface. This is especialy true when running a > series of commands, as the next command normaly depends on the results > of the previus command. > > Mikkel > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The instructions say to 1: in windows download this file to a floppy 2: in linux type these commands 2a: mcopy scanmodem.gz. ;should be a:mcopy a:.gz. I assumed it meant in a run box and it did not complain 2b: gunzip scanmodem.gz ;they never say where, run box or shell 3a: chmod +x scanmodem ;same thing 4a: ./scanmodem ;again where When talking to dummies or unknown they should say where to enter the commands or if it is all one line in a run box. HHEELLPP! Sheesh. Does anybody know how this is done after the file has been downloaded to a floppy? Try something like this... Open a terminal window in Linux Put the floppy you made in Windows in "drive A:" Type these commands: mkdir Wmodem cd Wmodem mcopy a:scanmodem.gz gnuzip scanmodem.gz chmod +x scanmodem ./scanmodem You may have to run "su" before running ./scanmodem - I don't remember if it will run as a normal user. All the instructions are for running in the command line interface, and not from X, so you nead a terminal window, or you need to drop to the command line. Now, as to what the commands do: mkdiw Wmodem - Creates a new directory off your home directory. cd Wmodem - Changes to that directory. mcopy a:scanmodem.gz - Coppies the file scanmodem.gz from a FAT formatted floppy. gunzip scanmodem.gz- Uncompresses the fiel scanmodem.gz (to scanmodem) chmod +x scanmodem - makes the file scanmodem executable. ./scanmodem - runs the file scanmodem in the current directory. I hope this helps. Most of these instructions assume you are running from the command line, or a terminal in X. Unless they specificly tell you to run the commands from a "run box", run them from a terminal, or from the command line interface. This is especialy true when running a series of commands, as the next command normaly depends on the results of the previus command. Mikkel Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
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On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:26:32 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] disseminated the following: >The instructions say to > 1: in windows download this file to a floppy > 2: in linux type these commands > 2a: mcopy scanmodem.gz. ;should be a:mcopy a:.gz. I assumed it meant in > a > run box and it did not complain > 2b: gunzip scanmodem.gz ;they never say where, run box or shell > 3a: chmod +x scanmodem ;same thing > 4a: ./scanmodem ;again where > > When talking to dummies or unknown they should say where to enter the > commands or if it is all one line in a run box. > HHEELLPP! Sheesh. Does anybody know how this is done after the file has > been downloaded to a floppy? I would assume that you would run this 'scanmodem' script from the directory it is in (hence the './'), same goes for the 'chmod +x scanmodem'. In general, you would run commands on a given file while *in* the directory containing the file, and I would doubt very much they are talking about a 'run box', the instructions assume you are at a command prompt. -- JoeHill / RLU #282046 / www.freeyourmachine.org 14:00:00 up 18 days, 2:38, 6 users, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.00 +++ "When you give food to the poor, they call you a saint. When you ask why the poor have no food, they call you a communist." -- Archbishop Helder Camara Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
