RE: [newbie] Startup issues.
On Tue, 21 Dec 1999, Mark Dawkins wrote: | | Hey I am a new Linux user (Linux mandrake 6.0 or 6.5 I forget) and I am | trying to configure my modem but I keep getting an error message that states | can not open modem. The users guide states that I have to setup permissions | for a user to be able to use the modem . I have a users called Marcos the | home directory is /home/marcos . How do I setup permissions for this user to | be able to access the modem so that I can then setup a PPP account to | access the Internet through my ISP. | | | Any suggestion or ideas are appreciated. | | | Rgds | | Mark Dawkins | Phone (301)838-5047 | Pager 1(888)371-8470 | email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Content-Type: text/html; name="unnamed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: Mark, Log on as "root", then run linuxconf either from a command line or by clicking the icon on the KDE desktop. Next select "networking", then ppp at the bottom of the list. If the button is not visible (in KDE), hold the ALT key while draging the linuxconf window up until you can see the ppp button. As you set up pppd, you will see a check box to allow users to connect, click it if there is not a check mark in the box. Finally, exit back out of all the opened levels, and linuxconf will ask you to "activate the changes". Do so and the job is done. HTH, Ernie
Re: [newbie] Startup issues.
On Sun, 19 Dec 1999, Sam Roza wrote: | Ernie, | | I am past this now...I know the chipset(GD5436), and the RAM is at least 2 | MB(there's a Kingston VRAM upgrade on the motherboard). I've run xf86config | and Xconfigurator so many times I can enter all responses without looking | now. I also have the specs for my monitor, and setting the correct | settings does nothing but give me a screen so huge in size that I have to | scroll my mouse in all directions to see it. I am not familiar with the Kingston VRAM upgrade - I wonder if this is the source of the problem? I have a PCI video card which uses the GD5430 chipset, and 2 meg EDO RAM and all works well. Hrmmm ... are you able to remove the Kingston VRAM upgrade from the MB? If nothing else, this may tell you if this is where the problem is comming from. If not, maybe someone with greater knowlege than I can tell you how to get X-Windows to understand the VRAM on the MB. Sorry I can not be of any more help. Ernie | | Still nothing(as my last posts say)...I've updated my config file just like | the readme's say and I'm at my ropes end. | | I don't think I've ever had this much trouble with Win95... | | PLEASE HELP, I'm feeling like this was a huge waste of time and money and I | really want this to work for experience sake. | | Sam ROza | | I will try starting in Linux 3 and running setup | - Original Message - | From: Ernest N. Wilcox Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: Sunday, December 19, 1999 3:35 AM | Subject: Re: [newbie] Startup issues. | | | On Fri, 17 Dec 1999, Sam Roza wrote: | | Hello All, | | | | I am new to the list, and am having difficulties. | | | | Last night I tried to install Linux-mandrake and it went GREAT, until | I got | | to X setup. I just can't seem to get my settings right. I am | installing on | | a Compaq Deskpro P166 with a soundblaster(this worked in the | installation) | | and a Cirrus logic video board(I don't know what chipset or RAM). | | | | The first time I loaded it, I got into KDE(X?) but the screen was so | messed | | up I couldn't use it, and I couldn't find a way to reset the video | | settings. I was reserved and I ended up re-installing linux a few | times | | before I got a successful install. | | | | Now that everything is complete, and I can use unix(with my limited | | knowledge of unix it is difficult for me), from a console to be ROOT, | and | | run Xconfigurator. After setting up Xconfig with my monitor's | settings, and | | having it probe my adapter(when it probes, the specs sound right), | but then | | the test screen comes up and asks "Can tyou read this message?" and I | can | | read the message, but the boxes below are all skewed... | | | | I got it looking decent and selected yes when it asked my if I could | see | | the message. Now it freezes when going into X...PLEASE HELP!! | | | | | | | | | | | | Regards, | | | | Sam Roza | | Lead Customer Service Representative | | (408) 527-2926 | | GE Capital - IT Solutions | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Sam, | | When you start your system, at the LILO prompt try "linux 3" (without the | quotes). This will start you in the command line mode. Then try "setup" | (again | without the quotes) as the "root" user. Now you can select the option to | set up | the X-server for your system. You will need to know the verticle and | horizontal | refresh rates for your monitor, as well as the information for your video | controler. If you have this information available, use it and do not probe | the | video device. I have heard that this has helpped several users get things | set | up ok. | | HTH, | | Ernie |
Re: [newbie] Startup issues.
No, Kingston RAM upgrades are not the issue. Kingston is the leading producer of OEM RAM in the world. That was not the problem, whatever the problem was, I corrected it with I think the "noaccel" option and a hard re-start. At 04:50 AM 12/21/99 -0500, you wrote: On Sun, 19 Dec 1999, Sam Roza wrote: | Ernie, | | I am past this now...I know the chipset(GD5436), and the RAM is at least 2 | MB(there's a Kingston VRAM upgrade on the motherboard). I've run xf86config | and Xconfigurator so many times I can enter all responses without looking | now. I also have the specs for my monitor, and setting the correct | settings does nothing but give me a screen so huge in size that I have to | scroll my mouse in all directions to see it. I am not familiar with the Kingston VRAM upgrade - I wonder if this is the source of the problem? I have a PCI video card which uses the GD5430 chipset, and 2 meg EDO RAM and all works well. Hrmmm ... are you able to remove the Kingston VRAM upgrade from the MB? If nothing else, this may tell you if this is where the problem is comming from. If not, maybe someone with greater knowlege than I can tell you how to get X-Windows to understand the VRAM on the MB. Sorry I can not be of any more help. Ernie | | Still nothing(as my last posts say)...I've updated my config file just like | the readme's say and I'm at my ropes end. | | I don't think I've ever had this much trouble with Win95... | | PLEASE HELP, I'm feeling like this was a huge waste of time and money and I | really want this to work for experience sake. | | Sam ROza | | I will try starting in Linux 3 and running setup | - Original Message - | From: Ernest N. Wilcox Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: Sunday, December 19, 1999 3:35 AM | Subject: Re: [newbie] Startup issues. | | | On Fri, 17 Dec 1999, Sam Roza wrote: | | Hello All, | | | | I am new to the list, and am having difficulties. | | | | Last night I tried to install Linux-mandrake and it went GREAT, until | I got | | to X setup. I just can't seem to get my settings right. I am | installing on | | a Compaq Deskpro P166 with a soundblaster(this worked in the | installation) | | and a Cirrus logic video board(I don't know what chipset or RAM). | | | | The first time I loaded it, I got into KDE(X?) but the screen was so | messed | | up I couldn't use it, and I couldn't find a way to reset the video | | settings. I was reserved and I ended up re-installing linux a few | times | | before I got a successful install. | | | | Now that everything is complete, and I can use unix(with my limited | | knowledge of unix it is difficult for me), from a console to be ROOT, | and | | run Xconfigurator. After setting up Xconfig with my monitor's | settings, and | | having it probe my adapter(when it probes, the specs sound right), | but then | | the test screen comes up and asks "Can tyou read this message?" and I | can | | read the message, but the boxes below are all skewed... | | | | I got it looking decent and selected yes when it asked my if I could | see | | the message. Now it freezes when going into X...PLEASE HELP!! | | | | | | | | | | | | Regards, | | | | Sam Roza | | Lead Customer Service Representative | | (408) 527-2926 | | GE Capital - IT Solutions | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Sam, | | When you start your system, at the LILO prompt try "linux 3" (without the | quotes). This will start you in the command line mode. Then try "setup" | (again | without the quotes) as the "root" user. Now you can select the option to | set up | the X-server for your system. You will need to know the verticle and | horizontal | refresh rates for your monitor, as well as the information for your video | controler. If you have this information available, use it and do not probe | the | video device. I have heard that this has helpped several users get things | set | up ok. | | HTH, | | Ernie | Regards, Sam Roza Lead Customer Service Representative (408) 527-2926 GE Capital - IT Solutions Onsite@Cisco
Re: [newbie] Startup issues.
Monitor "vivitron" Hidong, I noticed that you have a vivitron monitor. Is it a vivitron 15 by any chance, and if so, where did you get the specs for it? Thanks!
RE: [newbie] Startup issues.
Title: RE: [newbie] Startup issues. Hey I am a new Linux user (Linux mandrake 6.0 or 6.5 I forget) and I am trying to configure my modem but I keep getting an error message that states can not open modem. The users guide states that I have to setup permissions for a user to be able to use the modem . I have a users called Marcos the home directory is /home/marcos . How do I setup permissions for this user to be able to access the modem so that I can then setup a PPP account to access the Internet through my ISP. Any suggestion or ideas are appreciated. Rgds Mark Dawkins Phone (301)838-5047 Pager 1(888)371-8470 email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: John R. Ehrhart, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 2:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Startup issues. Monitor vivitron Hidong, I noticed that you have a vivitron monitor. Is it a vivitron 15 by any chance, and if so, where did you get the specs for it? Thanks!
Re: [newbie] Startup issues.
- Original Message - From: "Sam Roza" snipped I think there might be one last issue concerning the width of my screen and my clock in the righthand corner pushed off the screen...but I'll probably fool with it later, for now I'll just surf! :-] 1st - "man xvidtune" then run xvidtune. Sam Roza P.S.-- any way to get fonts and stuff to work more window-like? Rclick desktop, Lclick Display propertys -- fonts stuff... -Warren.
Re: [newbie] Startup issues.
You guys rock!! You've all helped me SO much! I shut my computer down after it locked up, and when I restarted it and tried to do a -showconfig so I could get some help from xfree86 and the damned thing started up in KDE!!! I think there might be one last issue concerning the width of my screen and my clock in the righthand corner pushed off the screen...but I'll probably fool with it later, for now I'll just surf! :-] Sam Roza P.S.-- any way to get fonts and stuff to work more window-like? - Original Message - From: Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 19, 1999 3:18 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Startup issues. Sam Roza wrote: Ernie, I am past this now...I know the chipset(GD5436), and the RAM is at least 2 MB(there's a Kingston VRAM upgrade on the motherboard). I've run xf86config and Xconfigurator so many times I can enter all responses without looking now. I also have the specs for my monitor, and setting the correct settings does nothing but give me a screen so huge in size that I have to scroll my mouse in all directions to see it. Still nothing(as my last posts say)...I've updated my config file just like the readme's say and I'm at my ropes end. I don't think I've ever had this much trouble with Win95... Don't despair! Sounds like you've got all of the beginnings working, now it's just time to tune the behaviour. Go ahead and start X again into that huge desktop. Try the Ctrl-Alt-NumPad+ and Ctrl-Alt-NumPad- key combinations to see if any of those help with the big desktop issue. Really, it's just a matter of editing /etc/X11/XF86Config to get rid of the resolutions that you don't want. But first, make sure that the larger resolutions really work. Drop a note back if this helps. -- Steve Philp, MCSE / MCP+I Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Startup issues.
Steve, WHen you run "setup" from linux 3 and go through all of your fine-tuning, you come to the bottom and it says "desktop settings". If you go through that menu, it will allow you to set your X to start up in "plain X" or KDE. When I chose "plain X" and did startx, a very plain looking GUI shows up, and looks great! But you don't get hi-res, and I think for a novice it lacks quite a bit of functions. I will go to the config file and look over the samples for monitors and edit it. I will also go to XFree86.org and do some more reading. Sam - Original Message - From: Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 19, 1999 5:33 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Startup issues. Sam Roza wrote: Steve, all, Thanks for the replies. Ok, I've edited and all of that, but I can't seem to find the right combos(noaccel still doesn't work, just locks up)... You might try the release notes for 3.3.5 at the XFree website. They might have better information about any problems with using the Cirrus chipset. XFree is at www.xfree86.org Now I've discovered that I can get my plain GUI to work excellently, but the KDE desktop just locks up. Not sure why it locks up when it should just look crappy. What do you mean "plain GUI"? You mentioned in an earlier message that you were going to boot with "linux 3"... that will get you just plain text mode that doesn't have much to do with video card resolutions at all. When the "can you see this message" message pops up after setting up, everything looks good until the countdown numbers change, then it fails to redraw, and all of the numbers and letters write over each other. Makes me think this is a Monitor issue... Well, the monitor only draws what the video card tells it to. I'd look into deja.com to see if there are any messages from other Cirrus users that might point out what sorts of problems they've encountered. My monitor is a Compaq V70 17" monitor Hor. sync 30-69 and Vert. 37.5 @1280x1024. It is not in the monitor list, and when I set custom params, I choose the closest to it, and I get garbage, go as low as possible...same effect. Are you comfortable editing /etc/X11/XF86Config? You can set the correct parameters in that file. Won't make alot of difference until you get the video card issues sorted out though... -- Steve Philp, MCSE / MCP+I Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Startup issues.
Sam Roza wrote: Steve, all, Thanks for the replies. Ok, I've edited and all of that, but I can't seem to find the right combos(noaccel still doesn't work, just locks up)... You might try the release notes for 3.3.5 at the XFree website. They might have better information about any problems with using the Cirrus chipset. XFree is at www.xfree86.org Now I've discovered that I can get my plain GUI to work excellently, but the KDE desktop just locks up. Not sure why it locks up when it should just look crappy. What do you mean "plain GUI"? You mentioned in an earlier message that you were going to boot with "linux 3"... that will get you just plain text mode that doesn't have much to do with video card resolutions at all. When the "can you see this message" message pops up after setting up, everything looks good until the countdown numbers change, then it fails to redraw, and all of the numbers and letters write over each other. Makes me think this is a Monitor issue... Well, the monitor only draws what the video card tells it to. I'd look into deja.com to see if there are any messages from other Cirrus users that might point out what sorts of problems they've encountered. My monitor is a Compaq V70 17" monitor Hor. sync 30-69 and Vert. 37.5 @1280x1024. It is not in the monitor list, and when I set custom params, I choose the closest to it, and I get garbage, go as low as possible...same effect. Are you comfortable editing /etc/X11/XF86Config? You can set the correct parameters in that file. Won't make alot of difference until you get the video card issues sorted out though... -- Steve Philp, MCSE / MCP+I Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Startup issues.
Hi, Sam, If you're still getting that huge screen that requires you to scroll the mouse to see the entire thing, you may not have the "Virtual" parameter set in your /etc/X11/XF86Config. The Virtual parameter should be set to the same pixel resolution that you want to see on the screen. For example, I like 1024 x 768 at 32 bpp for my machine. Here's a piece from my /etc/X11/XF86Config: Section "Screen" Driver "svga" # Use Device "Generic VGA" for Standard VGA 320x200x256 #Device "Generic VGA" Device "mystique" Monitor "vivitron" Subsection "Display" Depth 8 # Omit the Modes line for the "Generic VGA" device Modes "640x480" "800x600" "1024x768" "1280x1024" ViewPort0 0 # Use Virtual 320 200 for Generic VGA EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "640x480" "800x600" "1024x768" "1280x1024" ViewPort0 0 EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "640x480" "800x600" "1024x768" "1280x1024" ViewPort0 0 EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 32 Modes "1024x768" ViewPort0 0 Virtual 1024 768 EndSubsection EndSection Notice in the Depth 32 section, I have one screen resolution mode and the same resolution for the Virtual parameter. I edited this file manually after running xf86config. I start X with 'startx -- -bpp 32'. This starts X in 32 bits per pixel, which according to the /etc/X11/XF86Config defaults to a screen resolution of 1024 x 768. Hope this helps. Good luck, Hidong Sam Roza wrote: Steve, all, Thanks for the replies. Ok, I've edited and all of that, but I can't seem to find the right combos(noaccel still doesn't work, just locks up)... Now I've discovered that I can get my plain GUI to work excellently, but the KDE desktop just locks up. Not sure why it locks up when it should just look crappy. When the "can you see this message" message pops up after setting up, everything looks good until the countdown numbers change, then it fails to redraw, and all of the numbers and letters write over each other. Makes me think this is a Monitor issue... My monitor is a Compaq V70 17" monitor Hor. sync 30-69 and Vert. 37.5 @1280x1024. It is not in the monitor list, and when I set custom params, I choose the closest to it, and I get garbage, go as low as possible...same effect. Any ideas?? - Original Message - From: Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 19, 1999 3:18 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Startup issues. Sam Roza wrote: Ernie, I am past this now...I know the chipset(GD5436), and the RAM is at least 2 MB(there's a Kingston VRAM upgrade on the motherboard). I've run xf86config and Xconfigurator so many times I can enter all responses without looking now. I also have the specs for my monitor, and setting the correct settings does nothing but give me a screen so huge in size that I have to scroll my mouse in all directions to see it. Still nothing(as my last posts say)...I've updated my config file just like the readme's say and I'm at my ropes end. I don't think I've ever had this much trouble with Win95... Don't despair! Sounds like you've got all of the beginnings working, now it's just time to tune the behaviour. Go ahead and start X again into that huge desktop. Try the Ctrl-Alt-NumPad+ and Ctrl-Alt-NumPad- key combinations to see if any of those help with the big desktop issue. Really, it's just a matter of editing /etc/X11/XF86Config to get rid of the resolutions that you don't want. But first, make sure that the larger resolutions really work. Drop a note back if this helps. -- Steve Philp, MCSE / MCP+I Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Startup issues.
On Fri, 17 Dec 1999, Sam Roza wrote: | Hello All, | | I am new to the list, and am having difficulties. | | Last night I tried to install Linux-mandrake and it went GREAT, until I got | to X setup. I just can't seem to get my settings right. I am installing on | a Compaq Deskpro P166 with a soundblaster(this worked in the installation) | and a Cirrus logic video board(I don't know what chipset or RAM). | | The first time I loaded it, I got into KDE(X?) but the screen was so messed | up I couldn't use it, and I couldn't find a way to reset the video | settings. I was reserved and I ended up re-installing linux a few times | before I got a successful install. | | Now that everything is complete, and I can use unix(with my limited | knowledge of unix it is difficult for me), from a console to be ROOT, and | run Xconfigurator. After setting up Xconfig with my monitor's settings, and | having it probe my adapter(when it probes, the specs sound right), but then | the test screen comes up and asks "Can tyou read this message?" and I can | read the message, but the boxes below are all skewed... | | I got it looking decent and selected yes when it asked my if I could see | the message. Now it freezes when going into X...PLEASE HELP!! | | | | | | Regards, | | Sam Roza | Lead Customer Service Representative | (408) 527-2926 | GE Capital - IT Solutions | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sam, When you start your system, at the LILO prompt try "linux 3" (without the quotes). This will start you in the command line mode. Then try "setup" (again without the quotes) as the "root" user. Now you can select the option to set up the X-server for your system. You will need to know the verticle and horizontal refresh rates for your monitor, as well as the information for your video controler. If you have this information available, use it and do not probe the video device. I have heard that this has helpped several users get things set up ok. HTH, Ernie
Re: [newbie] Startup issues.
Ernie, I am past this now...I know the chipset(GD5436), and the RAM is at least 2 MB(there's a Kingston VRAM upgrade on the motherboard). I've run xf86config and Xconfigurator so many times I can enter all responses without looking now. I also have the specs for my monitor, and setting the correct settings does nothing but give me a screen so huge in size that I have to scroll my mouse in all directions to see it. Still nothing(as my last posts say)...I've updated my config file just like the readme's say and I'm at my ropes end. I don't think I've ever had this much trouble with Win95... PLEASE HELP, I'm feeling like this was a huge waste of time and money and I really want this to work for experience sake. Sam ROza I will try starting in Linux 3 and running setup - Original Message - From: Ernest N. Wilcox Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 19, 1999 3:35 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Startup issues. On Fri, 17 Dec 1999, Sam Roza wrote: | Hello All, | | I am new to the list, and am having difficulties. | | Last night I tried to install Linux-mandrake and it went GREAT, until I got | to X setup. I just can't seem to get my settings right. I am installing on | a Compaq Deskpro P166 with a soundblaster(this worked in the installation) | and a Cirrus logic video board(I don't know what chipset or RAM). | | The first time I loaded it, I got into KDE(X?) but the screen was so messed | up I couldn't use it, and I couldn't find a way to reset the video | settings. I was reserved and I ended up re-installing linux a few times | before I got a successful install. | | Now that everything is complete, and I can use unix(with my limited | knowledge of unix it is difficult for me), from a console to be ROOT, and | run Xconfigurator. After setting up Xconfig with my monitor's settings, and | having it probe my adapter(when it probes, the specs sound right), but then | the test screen comes up and asks "Can tyou read this message?" and I can | read the message, but the boxes below are all skewed... | | I got it looking decent and selected yes when it asked my if I could see | the message. Now it freezes when going into X...PLEASE HELP!! | | | | | | Regards, | | Sam Roza | Lead Customer Service Representative | (408) 527-2926 | GE Capital - IT Solutions | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sam, When you start your system, at the LILO prompt try "linux 3" (without the quotes). This will start you in the command line mode. Then try "setup" (again without the quotes) as the "root" user. Now you can select the option to set up the X-server for your system. You will need to know the verticle and horizontal refresh rates for your monitor, as well as the information for your video controler. If you have this information available, use it and do not probe the video device. I have heard that this has helpped several users get things set up ok. HTH, Ernie
Re: [newbie] Startup issues.
Sam Roza wrote: Ernie, I am past this now...I know the chipset(GD5436), and the RAM is at least 2 MB(there's a Kingston VRAM upgrade on the motherboard). I've run xf86config and Xconfigurator so many times I can enter all responses without looking now. I also have the specs for my monitor, and setting the correct settings does nothing but give me a screen so huge in size that I have to scroll my mouse in all directions to see it. Still nothing(as my last posts say)...I've updated my config file just like the readme's say and I'm at my ropes end. I don't think I've ever had this much trouble with Win95... Don't despair! Sounds like you've got all of the beginnings working, now it's just time to tune the behaviour. Go ahead and start X again into that huge desktop. Try the Ctrl-Alt-NumPad+ and Ctrl-Alt-NumPad- key combinations to see if any of those help with the big desktop issue. Really, it's just a matter of editing /etc/X11/XF86Config to get rid of the resolutions that you don't want. But first, make sure that the larger resolutions really work. Drop a note back if this helps. -- Steve Philp, MCSE / MCP+I Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Startup issues.
Steve, all, Thanks for the replies. Ok, I've edited and all of that, but I can't seem to find the right combos(noaccel still doesn't work, just locks up)... Now I've discovered that I can get my plain GUI to work excellently, but the KDE desktop just locks up. Not sure why it locks up when it should just look crappy. When the "can you see this message" message pops up after setting up, everything looks good until the countdown numbers change, then it fails to redraw, and all of the numbers and letters write over each other. Makes me think this is a Monitor issue... My monitor is a Compaq V70 17" monitor Hor. sync 30-69 and Vert. 37.5 @1280x1024. It is not in the monitor list, and when I set custom params, I choose the closest to it, and I get garbage, go as low as possible...same effect. Any ideas?? - Original Message - From: Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 19, 1999 3:18 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Startup issues. Sam Roza wrote: Ernie, I am past this now...I know the chipset(GD5436), and the RAM is at least 2 MB(there's a Kingston VRAM upgrade on the motherboard). I've run xf86config and Xconfigurator so many times I can enter all responses without looking now. I also have the specs for my monitor, and setting the correct settings does nothing but give me a screen so huge in size that I have to scroll my mouse in all directions to see it. Still nothing(as my last posts say)...I've updated my config file just like the readme's say and I'm at my ropes end. I don't think I've ever had this much trouble with Win95... Don't despair! Sounds like you've got all of the beginnings working, now it's just time to tune the behaviour. Go ahead and start X again into that huge desktop. Try the Ctrl-Alt-NumPad+ and Ctrl-Alt-NumPad- key combinations to see if any of those help with the big desktop issue. Really, it's just a matter of editing /etc/X11/XF86Config to get rid of the resolutions that you don't want. But first, make sure that the larger resolutions really work. Drop a note back if this helps. -- Steve Philp, MCSE / MCP+I Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Startup issues.
On Fri, 17 Dec 1999, you wrote: I am not in KDE, I'm on the console screen logged on as ROOT. Obviously I had a case error. I will obtain my hardware specs and retry loading from Xconfigurator and xf86config. (stupid question time)How does one get to KDE from the console?? "startx" :-) John
Re: [newbie] Startup issues...revisited
On Fri, 17 Dec 1999, you wrote: Hello guys, You've all helped me so much this afternoon getting my video card almost recognised by mandrake. (I'm Sam Roza). Now that I've used xf86config to set things up, I get a picture...but all text is LAME. I see through the boxes, it leaves streaks, everything. I've tried every setting for acceleration(vga, svga, etc.), and almost every monitor setting. I've had it detect my clocks, I've had it load defaults etc., all to no avail. Can someone help? I have a Cirrus logic 5436 card...I'm to the end of my rope pretty much. Sam Content-Type: text/html; name="unnamed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: I found the answer (I think) in the archives. Here's the URL -- http://www.mail-archive.com/newbie@linux-mandrake.com/msg12509.html The answer is: "enable 'no_bltbit' should fix the GD5446" (From Axalon) John
Re: [newbie] Startup issues...revisited
"Sam" == Sam Roza [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [snip] Sam Another thing...how do I read readme's and such? what program Sam would I use from a console to look at them? [snip] $ less [whatever-the-name-of-the-file-is] or $ mc and cd to the directory where the file is, and hit F3 key while the file is highlighted. -- Mike Fieschko, West Orange, NJ, USA X-Mailer: XEmacs 21.1, VM 6.75 and random-sig.el Kernel 2.2.14-7mdk http://www.viconet.com/fieschko/home.htm Dec 18 Feria "My attitude toward progress has passed from antagonism to boredom. I have long ceased to argue with people who prefer Thursday to Wednesday because it is Thursday." - [G.K. Chesterton, in New York Times Magazine, 2/11/23]
Re: [newbie] Startup issues...revisited
Ok, I've now used MC to read the README.cirrus file, and updated my config file based on advice given in the readme. I've added Option "noaccel", and it froze me...enabled Option "no_bitblt", same issue...I enabled the Chipset "clgd5436" function for better identification of my cardall to no avail. As far as this comment goes..." Alternatively, a brand new 4 MB video card would cost you less than a good lunch.. Make sure it's supported :) " I see no reason to buy a new card when mine is 100%supported. Also, the issues of trying to install a PCI card on a system with an integrated video adapter(Compaq's idea, not mine) seems hardly worth the trouble. I would like to know if anyone has ever resolved any issues with these cards, and what is necessary to acheive the ultimate goal of clear video with no re-draw issues. Thank you for all of your sage advice on this matter, I appreciate any and all help you can provide. Sam Roza - Original Message - From: Warren Doney [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 18, 1999 10:08 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Startup issues...revisited Sam Roza wrote: Thanks to Axalon for pointing me in the direction of the archives. I found lots of stuff on the Cirrus cards, but I found few solutions. The most promising of which woulf be to update the xf86config RPG's, but I don't know what they are, or if I would even know what to do with them if I had them. Another thing...how do I read readme's and such? what program would I use from a console to look at them? Thanl you in advance, Sam, AFAIK, your not going to be able to get round manually editing your XF86Config file for this card. You'll find the details in: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/doc/README.cirrus and the actual file at /etc/X11/XF86Config The tool I like for doing this sort of thing is the Midnight Commander. Type "mc" at the command prompt start reading helpfiles... (you're at the point where I'd only be repeating what's in 'em). Alternatively, a brand new 4 MB video card would cost you less than a good lunch.. Make sure it's supported :) -Warren.
Re: [newbie] Startup issues...revisited
You *have* run Xconfigurator specified your card, haven't you? Do you know how much RAM it's got? Moving the RAM setting down a notch in Xconfigurator can sometimes help, is another setting you can play with... also, you could try asking about your problem in the "comp.windows.x" newsgroup (or searching it @ deja.com). As for buying a new card, it's what I did when I was running Caldera 2.2 it didn't support my embedded chip. Installing it was as simple as slipping a jumper on the motherboard. Of corse, YMMV, from the doc's, it seems you should be able to get your own going -Warren. - Original Message - From: "Sam Roza" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 19, 1999 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Startup issues...revisited Ok, I've now used MC to read the README.cirrus file, and updated my config file based on advice given in the readme. I've added Option "noaccel", and it froze me...enabled Option "no_bitblt", same issue...I enabled the Chipset "clgd5436" function for better identification of my cardall to no avail. As far as this comment goes..." Alternatively, a brand new 4 MB video card would cost you less than a good lunch.. Make sure it's supported :) " I see no reason to buy a new card when mine is 100%supported. Also, the issues of trying to install a PCI card on a system with an integrated video adapter(Compaq's idea, not mine) seems hardly worth the trouble. I would like to know if anyone has ever resolved any issues with these cards, and what is necessary to acheive the ultimate goal of clear video with no re-draw issues. Thank you for all of your sage advice on this matter, I appreciate any and all help you can provide. Sam Roza - Original Message - From: Warren Doney [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 18, 1999 10:08 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Startup issues...revisited Sam Roza wrote: Thanks to Axalon for pointing me in the direction of the archives. I found lots of stuff on the Cirrus cards, but I found few solutions. The most promising of which woulf be to update the xf86config RPG's, but I don't know what they are, or if I would even know what to do with them if I had them. Another thing...how do I read readme's and such? what program would I use from a console to look at them? Thanl you in advance, Sam, AFAIK, your not going to be able to get round manually editing your XF86Config file for this card. You'll find the details in: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/doc/README.cirrus and the actual file at /etc/X11/XF86Config The tool I like for doing this sort of thing is the Midnight Commander. Type "mc" at the command prompt start reading helpfiles... (you're at the point where I'd only be repeating what's in 'em). Alternatively, a brand new 4 MB video card would cost you less than a good lunch.. Make sure it's supported :) -Warren.
Re: [newbie] Startup issues.
Hi, Sam, I've always preferred 'xf86config' for configuration of X. See if that helps. Good luck, Hidong Sam Roza wrote: Hello All, I am new to the list, and am having difficulties. Last night I tried to install Linux-mandrake and it went GREAT, until I got to X setup. I just can't seem to get my settings right. I am installing on a Compaq Deskpro P166 with a soundblaster(this worked in the installation) and a Cirrus logic video board(I don't know what chipset or RAM). The first time I loaded it, I got into KDE(X?) but the screen was so messed up I couldn't use it, and I couldn't find a way to reset the video settings. I was reserved and I ended up re-installing linux a few times before I got a successful install. Now that everything is complete, and I can use unix(with my limited knowledge of unix it is difficult for me), from a console to be ROOT, and run Xconfigurator. After setting up Xconfig with my monitor's settings, and having it probe my adapter(when it probes, the specs sound right), but then the test screen comes up and asks "Can tyou read this message?" and I can read the message, but the boxes below are all skewed... I got it looking decent and selected yes when it asked my if I could see the message. Now it freezes when going into X...PLEASE HELP!! Regards, Sam Roza Lead Customer Service Representative (408) 527-2926 GE Capital - IT Solutions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Startup issues.
I apologize, but as I am a TOTAL newbie, and typing xf86config(or as the manual says XF86Config)does not pull it up. How do I run this? Sorry for the stupid questions. At 10:54 AM 12/17/99 -0800, you wrote: Hi, Sam, I've always preferred 'xf86config' for configuration of X. See if that helps. Good luck, Hidong Sam Roza wrote: Hello All, I am new to the list, and am having difficulties. Last night I tried to install Linux-mandrake and it went GREAT, until I got to X setup. I just can't seem to get my settings right. I am installing on a Compaq Deskpro P166 with a soundblaster(this worked in the installation) and a Cirrus logic video board(I don't know what chipset or RAM). The first time I loaded it, I got into KDE(X?) but the screen was so messed up I couldn't use it, and I couldn't find a way to reset the video settings. I was reserved and I ended up re-installing linux a few times before I got a successful install. Now that everything is complete, and I can use unix(with my limited knowledge of unix it is difficult for me), from a console to be ROOT, and run Xconfigurator. After setting up Xconfig with my monitor's settings, and having it probe my adapter(when it probes, the specs sound right), but then the test screen comes up and asks "Can tyou read this message?" and I can read the message, but the boxes below are all skewed... I got it looking decent and selected yes when it asked my if I could see the message. Now it freezes when going into X...PLEASE HELP!! Regards, Sam Roza Lead Customer Service Representative (408) 527-2926 GE Capital - IT Solutions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards, Sam Roza Lead Customer Service Representative (408) 527-2926 GE Capital - IT Solutions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Startup issues.
Xconfigurator should work o.k., Iv'e always had hassles with fontpath default resolutions with xf86config Mandrake(which BTW is the right way to spell it, XF86Config is the name of the file it makes) . Try to find out what your card is. In Win98 right click a clear area of your desktop then Lclick proprertys -- settings -- advanced --adapter you should see it Also, do you Know what version of xfree86 you have? MDK 6.1 has the newest version, but 6.0 has an older one which may not work as well for your card. www.xfree86.org is a good place to look if you have problems with X. -Warren - Original Message - From: "Sam Roza" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 18, 1999 6:06 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Startup issues. I apologize, but as I am a TOTAL newbie, and typing xf86config(or as the manual says XF86Config)does not pull it up. How do I run this? Sorry for the stupid questions. At 10:54 AM 12/17/99 -0800, you wrote: Hi, Sam, I've always preferred 'xf86config' for configuration of X. See if that helps. Good luck, Hidong Sam Roza wrote: Hello All, I am new to the list, and am having difficulties. Last night I tried to install Linux-mandrake and it went GREAT, until I got to X setup. I just can't seem to get my settings right. I am installing on a Compaq Deskpro P166 with a soundblaster(this worked in the installation) and a Cirrus logic video board(I don't know what chipset or RAM). The first time I loaded it, I got into KDE(X?) but the screen was so messed up I couldn't use it, and I couldn't find a way to reset the video settings. I was reserved and I ended up re-installing linux a few times before I got a successful install. Now that everything is complete, and I can use unix(with my limited knowledge of unix it is difficult for me), from a console to be ROOT, and run Xconfigurator. After setting up Xconfig with my monitor's settings, and having it probe my adapter(when it probes, the specs sound right), but then the test screen comes up and asks "Can tyou read this message?" and I can read the message, but the boxes below are all skewed... I got it looking decent and selected yes when it asked my if I could see the message. Now it freezes when going into X...PLEASE HELP!! Regards, Sam Roza Lead Customer Service Representative (408) 527-2926 GE Capital - IT Solutions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards, Sam Roza Lead Customer Service Representative (408) 527-2926 GE Capital - IT Solutions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Startup issues.
Johnroot! Not on my system? Here's my path as alan (an unpriveleged user): PATH=/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin::/usr/X11R6/bin:/home/alan/bin Why would a program in a path segment that begins with /usr require root priveleges? Alan John Aldrich wrote: On Fri, 17 Dec 1999, you wrote: I apologize, but as I am a TOTAL newbie, and typing xf86config(or as the manual says XF86Config)does not pull it up. How do I run this? Sorry for the stupid questions. You have to be "root" (admin) to run this. The FULL path will be /usr/X11R6/bin/xf86config Please note that this is ALL LOWER CASE. This DOES make a difference. The /etc/X11/XF86Config you are referring to is a textfile which you can manually edit to config your video. As you are an admitted newbie, I highly recommend AGAINST that. Hell, I've been using Linux on my desktop for almost a year now, and I *still* won't hand edit that file! :-) John
Re: [newbie] Startup issues.
Samtype startx. Alan Sam Roza wrote: I am not in KDE, I'm on the console screen logged on as ROOT. Obviously I had a case error. I will obtain my hardware specs and retry loading from Xconfigurator and xf86config. (stupid question time)How does one get to KDE from the console?? At 01:12 PM 12/17/99 -0800, you wrote: Hi, Sam, 'xf86config' (all lower case) from the command prompt should work. XF86Config is a configuration file which xf86config should create. Have you tried quitting out of KDE and issuing the command from the normal VGA screen? To quit out of KDE, right click on the desktop and select logout. It's best to run xf86config as root user. xf86config should take you through the steps to configure your hardware for X. Before you run it, know what kind of video card you have, its RAM, and the horizontal and vertical sync rates for your monitor. Knowing your monitor specs is critical. If you use the wrong monitor specs, you could damage the monitor. All of this information should be in the documentation that came with your hardware. OK, good luck, Hidong Sam Roza wrote: I apologize, but as I am a TOTAL newbie, and typing xf86config(or as the manual says XF86Config)does not pull it up. How do I run this? Sorry for the stupid questions. At 10:54 AM 12/17/99 -0800, you wrote: Hi, Sam, I've always preferred 'xf86config' for configuration of X. See if that helps. Good luck, Hidong Sam Roza wrote: Hello All, I am new to the list, and am having difficulties. Last night I tried to install Linux-mandrake and it went GREAT, until I got to X setup. I just can't seem to get my settings right. I am installing on a Compaq Deskpro P166 with a soundblaster(this worked in the installation) and a Cirrus logic video board(I don't know what chipset or RAM). The first time I loaded it, I got into KDE(X?) but the screen was so messed up I couldn't use it, and I couldn't find a way to reset the video settings. I was reserved and I ended up re-installing linux a few times before I got a successful install. Now that everything is complete, and I can use unix(with my limited knowledge of unix it is difficult for me), from a console to be ROOT, and run Xconfigurator. After setting up Xconfig with my monitor's settings, and having it probe my adapter(when it probes, the specs sound right), but then the test screen comes up and asks "Can tyou read this message?" and I can read the message, but the boxes below are all skewed... I got it looking decent and selected yes when it asked my if I could see the message. Now it freezes when going into X...PLEASE HELP!! Regards, Sam Roza Lead Customer Service Representative (408) 527-2926 GE Capital - IT Solutions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards, Sam Roza Lead Customer Service Representative (408) 527-2926 GE Capital - IT Solutions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards, Sam Roza Lead Customer Service Representative (408) 527-2926 GE Capital - IT Solutions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Startup issues.
Ok, I typed startx and it kinda just sat there, but, once again it might have been a case error. Either way, why I type in "X" it just hangs like a DaWg. At 01:44 PM 12/17/99 -0800, you wrote: Samtype startx. Alan Sam Roza wrote: I am not in KDE, I'm on the console screen logged on as ROOT. Obviously I had a case error. I will obtain my hardware specs and retry loading from Xconfigurator and xf86config. (stupid question time)How does one get to KDE from the console?? At 01:12 PM 12/17/99 -0800, you wrote: Hi, Sam, 'xf86config' (all lower case) from the command prompt should work. XF86Config is a configuration file which xf86config should create. Have you tried quitting out of KDE and issuing the command from the normal VGA screen? To quit out of KDE, right click on the desktop and select logout. It's best to run xf86config as root user. xf86config should take you through the steps to configure your hardware for X. Before you run it, know what kind of video card you have, its RAM, and the horizontal and vertical sync rates for your monitor. Knowing your monitor specs is critical. If you use the wrong monitor specs, you could damage the monitor. All of this information should be in the documentation that came with your hardware. OK, good luck, Hidong Sam Roza wrote: I apologize, but as I am a TOTAL newbie, and typing xf86config(or as the manual says XF86Config)does not pull it up. How do I run this? Sorry for the stupid questions. At 10:54 AM 12/17/99 -0800, you wrote: Hi, Sam, I've always preferred 'xf86config' for configuration of X. See if that helps. Good luck, Hidong Sam Roza wrote: Hello All, I am new to the list, and am having difficulties. Last night I tried to install Linux-mandrake and it went GREAT, until I got to X setup. I just can't seem to get my settings right. I am installing on a Compaq Deskpro P166 with a soundblaster(this worked in the installation) and a Cirrus logic video board(I don't know what chipset or RAM). The first time I loaded it, I got into KDE(X?) but the screen was so messed up I couldn't use it, and I couldn't find a way to reset the video settings. I was reserved and I ended up re-installing linux a few times before I got a successful install. Now that everything is complete, and I can use unix(with my limited knowledge of unix it is difficult for me), from a console to be ROOT, and run Xconfigurator. After setting up Xconfig with my monitor's settings, and having it probe my adapter(when it probes, the specs sound right), but then the test screen comes up and asks "Can tyou read this message?" and I can read the message, but the boxes below are all skewed... I got it looking decent and selected yes when it asked my if I could see the message. Now it freezes when going into X...PLEASE HELP!! Regards, Sam Roza Lead Customer Service Representative (408) 527-2926 GE Capital - IT Solutions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards, Sam Roza Lead Customer Service Representative (408) 527-2926 GE Capital - IT Solutions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards, Sam Roza Lead Customer Service Representative (408) 527-2926 GE Capital - IT Solutions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards, Sam Roza Lead Customer Service Representative (408) 527-2926 GE Capital - IT Solutions Onsite@Cisco
Re: [newbie] Startup issues.
Johner...how did this the last one get addressed to you instead of the list? Anyway, I got to thinking about this root thing and began to wonder (I don't believe I've actually run xf86config as other than root) what happens when an upriveleged user finishes running xf86config and it goes to write the XF86Config file whoich requires root priveleges to write? I think I'll stck this back into the list to continue the thread. Alan Alan Shoemaker wrote: Johnroot! Not on my system? Here's my path as alan (an unpriveleged user): PATH=/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin::/usr/X11R6/bin:/home/alan/bin Why would a program in a path segment that begins with /usr require root priveleges? Alan John Aldrich wrote: On Fri, 17 Dec 1999, you wrote: I apologize, but as I am a TOTAL newbie, and typing xf86config(or as the manual says XF86Config)does not pull it up. How do I run this? Sorry for the stupid questions. You have to be "root" (admin) to run this. The FULL path will be /usr/X11R6/bin/xf86config Please note that this is ALL LOWER CASE. This DOES make a difference. The /etc/X11/XF86Config you are referring to is a textfile which you can manually edit to config your video. As you are an admitted newbie, I highly recommend AGAINST that. Hell, I've been using Linux on my desktop for almost a year now, and I *still* won't hand edit that file! :-) John
Re: [newbie] Startup issues.
Sam"it kinda just sat there" is not a good description of what occurred when you typed startx. Also I don't understand the meaning of "why I type in "X" it just hangs like a DaWg." So, did you type startx alone on a console command line? Now two things could happen other than going into KDE. First, nothing (a new command line is printed). Second, a bunch of stuff flashes by on the screen ending in an error message and a new command line is printed. So what happened? Alan Sam Roza wrote: Ok, I typed startx and it kinda just sat there, but, once again it might have been a case error. Either way, why I type in "X" it just hangs like a DaWg. At 01:44 PM 12/17/99 -0800, you wrote: Samtype startx. Alan Sam Roza wrote: I am not in KDE, I'm on the console screen logged on as ROOT. Obviously I had a case error. I will obtain my hardware specs and retry loading from Xconfigurator and xf86config. (stupid question time)How does one get to KDE from the console?? [clip]
Re: [newbie] Startup issues...revisited
On Fri, 17 Dec 1999, Sam Roza wrote: Hello guys, You've all helped me so much this afternoon getting my video card almost recognised by mandrake. (I'm Sam Roza). Now that I've used xf86config to set things up, I get a picture...but all text is LAME. I see through the boxes, it leaves streaks, everything. I've tried every setting for acceleration(vga, svga, etc.), and almost every monitor setting. I've had it detect my clocks, I've had it load defaults etc., all to no avail. Can someone help? I have a Cirrus logic 5436 card...I'm to the end of my rope pretty much. Sam search for "Cirrus logic 54" in the archives... -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon
Re: [newbie] Startup issues...revisited
Thanks to Axalon for pointing me in the direction of the archives. I found lots of stuff on the Cirrus cards, but I found few solutions. The most promising of which woulf be to update the xf86config RPG's, but I don't know what they are, or if I would even know what to do with them if I had them. Another thing...how do I read readme's and such? what program would I use from a console to look at them? Thanl you in advance, Sam - Original Message - From: Axalon Bloodstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Sam Roza [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 17, 1999 9:56 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Startup issues...revisited On Fri, 17 Dec 1999, Sam Roza wrote: Axalon, Not to sound dense or anything, but where are the archives kept? Thanks, Sam Directly above where you found the instructions to get on the list.
