Re: [newbie] Test Message

2004-01-19 Thread jason pearl
I htink i am almost there.. I can send mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] if i
am sending to the cox smtp servers... but i cannot recieve mail from
anyone. it bounce messages all say that they couldnt contact
mail.jpearl.org..  i have mx records setup at my dns as mail.jpearl.org
first
then jpearl.org.

my settings are all default for postfix. and one server setting says it
can recieve mail from anyone.   If i telnet to either of the above
addresses i get my postfix server answering. '

Am i missing a setting somewhere?

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Re: [newbie] Test Message

2004-01-19 Thread Richard Urwin
On Monday 19 Jan 2004 3:07 pm, jason pearl wrote:
 I htink i am almost there.. I can send mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] if i
 am sending to the cox smtp servers... but i cannot recieve mail from
 anyone. it bounce messages all say that they couldnt contact
 mail.jpearl.org..  i have mx records setup at my dns as mail.jpearl.org
 first
 then jpearl.org.

 my settings are all default for postfix. and one server setting says it
 can recieve mail from anyone.   If i telnet to either of the above
 addresses i get my postfix server answering. '

 Am i missing a setting somewhere?

Pardon me, I've just telnetted to mail.jpearl.org port 25, and captured the 
traffic with a network analyser.

The result: I send you SYN packets to set up the connection, you never reply. 
I think that is what is termed stealthed. Therefore I believe you have a 
firewall installed somewhere. (Maybe at the ISP.) On a non-functioning 
connection without a firewall I would expect to see a FIN/RST packet 
returned. Of course those packets *might* be getting lost on the return trip.

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Re: [newbie] Test Message

2004-01-19 Thread jason pearl
On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 18:14:09 +
Richard Urwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Monday 19 Jan 2004 3:07 pm, jason pearl wrote:
 I htink i am almost there.. I can send mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
if i am sending to the cox smtp servers... but i cannot recieve mail
from anyone. it bounce messages all say that they couldnt contact
 mail.jpearl.org..  i have mx records setup at my dns as
mail.jpearl.org first
 then jpearl.org.

 my settings are all default for postfix. and one server setting says
it can recieve mail from anyone.   If i telnet to either of the above
 addresses i get my postfix server answering. '

 Am i missing a setting somewhere?

Pardon me, I've just telnetted to mail.jpearl.org port 25, and captured
the traffic with a network analyser.

The result: I send you SYN packets to set up the connection, you never
reply. I think that is what is termed stealthed. Therefore I believe
you have a firewall installed somewhere. (Maybe at the ISP.) On a
non-functioning connection without a firewall I would expect to see a
FIN/RST packet returned. Of course those packets *might* be getting
lost on the return trip.

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i think my isp is blocking it.. i only get response from my computers in
the intranet...
:(


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Re: [newbie] Test Message

2004-01-19 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Monday 19 January 2004 10:07 am, jason pearl wrote:
 I htink i am almost there.. I can send mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] if i
 am sending to the cox smtp servers... but i cannot recieve mail from
 anyone. it bounce messages all say that they couldnt contact
 mail.jpearl.org..  i have mx records setup at my dns as mail.jpearl.org
 first
 then jpearl.org.

 my settings are all default for postfix. and one server setting says it
 can recieve mail from anyone.   If i telnet to either of the above
 addresses i get my postfix server answering. '

 Am i missing a setting somewhere?

Well, if you don't actually have a machine called mail.jpearl.org, then you 
need to get a wildcard setup so that all jperal.org machines will go to the 
same IP address.
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Re: [newbie] Test Message

2004-01-19 Thread jason pearl
On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 15:42:11 -0500
Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Monday 19 January 2004 10:07 am, jason pearl wrote:
 I htink i am almost there.. I can send mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
if i am sending to the cox smtp servers... but i cannot recieve mail
from anyone. it bounce messages all say that they couldnt contact
 mail.jpearl.org..  i have mx records setup at my dns as
mail.jpearl.org first
 then jpearl.org.

 my settings are all default for postfix. and one server setting says
it can recieve mail from anyone.   If i telnet to either of the above
 addresses i get my postfix server answering. '

 Am i missing a setting somewhere?

Well, if you don't actually have a machine called mail.jpearl.org, then
you need to get a wildcard setup so that all jperal.org machines will
go to the same IP address.
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yeah i have set the mail.jpearl.org up. but im gonna wait for 2 weeks
till my new line gets installed so theres no more blocked ports.


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Re: [newbie] Test Message

2004-01-17 Thread jason pearl
On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 12:02:26 -0500
Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Thursday 15 January 2004 09:01 am, jason pearl wrote:

 i can send mail to myself.. i sent an email from
[EMAIL PROTECTED] i can send it to my cox email but not to
anyone else. what do i put for mx records at the no-ip account? i put
my cox mx records.

Also, once you get the mail server up, you might want to run a quick
test to check for open relays. 

From the machine telnet to relay-test.mail-abuse.org

i got this when i opened telnet:

telnet open
(to) 68.99.95.93 25
Trying 68.99.95.93...
Connected to ip68-99-95-93.ph.ph.cox.net (68.99.95.93).
Escape character is '^]'.
220 jpearl.org ESMTP Postfix (2.0.13) (Mandrake Linux)

when i try to send mail to a user @ something besides [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I get a message from the windows box saying that relaying mail isnt
allowed...

SOooo the recips never get my mail. Does this mean i have to use my cox
smtp server to send mail???




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Re: [newbie] Test Message

2004-01-17 Thread Richard Urwin
On Saturday 17 Jan 2004 1:02 pm, jason pearl wrote:
 On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 12:02:26 -0500

 Also, once you get the mail server up, you might want to run a quick
 test to check for open relays.

 From the machine telnet to relay-test.mail-abuse.org

 i got this when i opened telnet:

 telnet open
 (to) 68.99.95.93 25
 Trying 68.99.95.93...
 Connected to ip68-99-95-93.ph.ph.cox.net (68.99.95.93).
 Escape character is '^]'.
 220 jpearl.org ESMTP Postfix (2.0.13) (Mandrake Linux)


That's a really useful service, thanks Bryan.
For what it's worth this is my result, showing everything OK:

-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] richard]$ telnet relay-test.mail-abuse.org
Trying 168.61.4.13...
Connected to relay-test.mail-abuse.org (168.61.4.13).
Escape character is '^]'.
Connecting to 195.149.48.33 ...
 220 mercury.soronlin.org.uk ESMTP Postfix (2.0.13) (Mandrake Linux)
 HELO cygnus.mail-abuse.org
 250 mercury.soronlin.org.uk
:Relay test: #Quote test
 mail from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 250 Ok
 rcpt to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 554 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Relay access denied
 rset
 250 Ok
:Relay test: #Test 1
 mail from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 250 Ok
 rcpt to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 554 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Relay access denied
 rset
 250 Ok

... for 20 tests

 QUIT
 221 Bye
Tested host banner: 220 mercury.soronlin.org.uk ESMTP Postfix (2.0.13) 
(Mandrake Linux)
System appeared to reject relay attempts
Connection closed by foreign host.
-

jason, do you not get:
 HELO cygnus.mail-abuse.org
I don't understand how that could happen, but it's probably a Postfix or 
xinetd problem.

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Re: [newbie] Test Message

2004-01-17 Thread jason pearl

telnet open
(to) relay-test.mail-abuse.org
Trying 168.61.4.13...
Connected to relay-test.mail-abuse.org (168.61.4.13).
Escape character is '^]'.
/proj/maps/bin/in.relaytest: socket failed [Bad file descriptor]
Connecting to 68.99.95.93 ...
Connection closed by foreign host.

thats what i get.. what it means i dont know'


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Re: [newbie] Test Message

2004-01-17 Thread Richard Urwin
On Saturday 17 Jan 2004 1:22 pm, jason pearl wrote:
 telnet open
 (to) relay-test.mail-abuse.org
 Trying 168.61.4.13...
 Connected to relay-test.mail-abuse.org (168.61.4.13).
 Escape character is '^]'.
 /proj/maps/bin/in.relaytest: socket failed [Bad file descriptor]
 Connecting to 68.99.95.93 ...
 Connection closed by foreign host.

 thats what i get.. what it means i dont know'

Postfix isn't listening, or a firewall is getting in the way. (My ISP blocks 
incoming SMTP until we're approved relay-safe.) Looks like a Postfix problem 
though.

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Re: [newbie] Test Message

2004-01-16 Thread jason pearl
On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 09:56:19 -0500
Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

newbie

hello


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Re: [newbie] Test Message

2004-01-16 Thread jason pearl
On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 13:06:33 -0500
Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Thursday 15 January 2004 12:17 pm, jason pearl wrote:

 I never bet a bounce back and nobody can telnet to me even with my
 router port opened so i guess the outgoing 25 is blocked? so does
that mean incoming is blocked also?

Jason, I just did some research to try to clear this up.  According to
this: http://support.cox.net/custsup/email/email_info.shtml
Cox does not block incoming port 25, they do however, block outgoing
port 25 just as Earthlink does.  You should be able to receive mail at
a dynamic domain but you will not be able to send mail without
configuring the mail server to relay through Cox's mail servers.

If other people are unable to telnet to port 25 on your system, it
might be because you are running a firewall that is dropping the
traffic or your mail server is incorrectly configured and therefore is
not active.-- 
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Re: [newbie] Test Message

2004-01-16 Thread jason pearl
On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 13:06:33 -0500
Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Thursday 15 January 2004 12:17 pm, jason pearl wrote:

 I never bet a bounce back and nobody can telnet to me even with my
 router port opened so i guess the outgoing 25 is blocked? so does
that mean incoming is blocked also?

Jason, I just did some research to try to clear this up.  According to
this: http://support.cox.net/custsup/email/email_info.shtml
Cox does not block incoming port 25, they do however, block outgoing
port 25 just as Earthlink does.  You should be able to receive mail at
a dynamic domain but you will not be able to send mail without
configuring the mail server to relay through Cox's mail servers.

If other people are unable to telnet to port 25 on your system, it
might be because you are running a firewall that is dropping the
traffic or your mail server is incorrectly configured and therefore is
not active.-- 
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I cant see port 25 on sheilds up at grc.com
It says my 25 is stealth.. I also made sure that the port is open on my
router.. so i take it i would have to buy the cox business line or buy
mail redirector service.

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Re: [newbie] Test Message

2004-01-16 Thread jason pearl
On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 12:02:26 -0500
Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Thursday 15 January 2004 09:01 am, jason pearl wrote:

 i can send mail to myself.. i sent an email from
[EMAIL PROTECTED] i can send it to my cox email but not to
anyone else. what do i put for mx records at the no-ip account? i put
my cox mx records.

Also, once you get the mail server up, you might want to run a quick
test to check for open relays. 

From the machine telnet to relay-test.mail-abuse.org

You will see a long dialog where mail-abuse tries to relay mail through
your server with successive attempts to spoof a connection to trick the
mail server into relaying.  If you pass, this doesn't meant that your
mail server can't be used as a relay but it does mean that the most
obvious tricks have been tried and failed.

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I think i figured something out.. i cant send mail with postfix. it says
operation timed out.. It was trying to contact mx.west.cox.net which
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Re: [newbie] Test Message

2004-01-15 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Thursday 15 January 2004 09:01 am, jason pearl wrote:

 i can send mail to myself.. i sent an email from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 i can send it to my cox email but not to anyone else.
 what do i put for mx records at the no-ip account? i put my cox mx
 records.

Also, once you get the mail server up, you might want to run a quick test to 
check for open relays. 

From the machine telnet to relay-test.mail-abuse.org

You will see a long dialog where mail-abuse tries to relay mail through your 
server with successive attempts to spoof a connection to trick the mail 
server into relaying.  If you pass, this doesn't meant that your mail server 
can't be used as a relay but it does mean that the most obvious tricks have 
been tried and failed.

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Re: [newbie] Test Message

2004-01-15 Thread jason pearl
On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 09:56:19 -0500
Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Thursday 15 January 2004 09:01 am, jason pearl wrote:

 i can send mail to myself.. i sent an email from
[EMAIL PROTECTED] i can send it to my cox email but not to
anyone else. what do i put for mx records at the no-ip account? i put
my cox mx records.

Do you mean that you can send mail from your Postfix server to your cox
email account but not to anyone else?  If so, do you get a bounce
message or is your message refused when you send it or does it just not
get received?

If the ISP blocks outgoing port 25, you will send a message to an
external address and it will just disappear.  You can still send mail
to local ISP accounts because port 25 traffic is only blocked at the
router for outgoing traffic, internally, it still works.  The local
mail server accepts your mail because it recognizes that your IP is
internal to its network, so it accepts the traffic.  If that seems to
be what is happening, then your outgoing port 25 is probably blocked.

If your port 25 is open and you want to check it, simply try to telnet
to port 25 of your external WAN IP address.  If your postfix server
responds, then port 25 is not blocked.

I am pretty sure that you should NOT be using the cox mail server
address.  Any mail bound to your myvnc.com domain will not be
recognized by the cox mail server and will be refused.  If they have
agreed to accept mail for your domain and let you download it from
them, you should use their mail server.

The MX record at no-ip.com needs to be the hostname of a mailserver. If
you were using an external mail hosting service that collects your mail
and then sends it to your machine, this is where you would put the name
of that mail server hostname.  Otherwise, I am pretty certain that you
leave that blank.  You can also set wildcards so that all requests to
your domain are sent to the IP you have updated.  So, www.no-ip.com,
mail.no-ip.com, ftp.no-ip.com, etc.  
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I never bet a bounce back and nobody can telnet to me even with my
router port opened so i guess the outgoing 25 is blocked? so does that
mean incoming is blocked also?


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Re: [newbie] Test Message

2004-01-15 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Thursday 15 January 2004 12:17 pm, jason pearl wrote:

 I never bet a bounce back and nobody can telnet to me even with my
 router port opened so i guess the outgoing 25 is blocked? so does that
 mean incoming is blocked also?

Jason, I just did some research to try to clear this up.  According to this:
http://support.cox.net/custsup/email/email_info.shtml
Cox does not block incoming port 25, they do however, block outgoing port 25 
just as Earthlink does.  You should be able to receive mail at a dynamic 
domain but you will not be able to send mail without configuring the mail 
server to relay through Cox's mail servers.

If other people are unable to telnet to port 25 on your system, it might be 
because you are running a firewall that is dropping the traffic or your mail 
server is incorrectly configured and therefore is not active.
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Re: [newbie] Test Message

2004-01-14 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Tuesday 13 January 2004 11:40 pm, jason pearl wrote:

 so should we get this email...

After the recent discussion concerning anti-spam measures, I got to thinking 
that I might have figured out why the Mandrake mailing-list server was 
dropping my emails when they originated from my postfix system and then got 
relayed through the ISP.  It appears that I correctly figured out why.  If 
you check the full mail headers, you will see that that message originated 
from my Postfix system.  That is the first time I have been able to get a 
mail message through when it originated from my Postfix system.

Short answer, you should have gotten that email but I didn't expect it to go 
through.

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Re: [newbie] Test Message

2004-01-14 Thread jason pearl
On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 07:03:26 -0500
Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Tuesday 13 January 2004 11:40 pm, jason pearl wrote:

 so should we get this email...

After the recent discussion concerning anti-spam measures, I got to
thinking that I might have figured out why the Mandrake mailing-list
server was dropping my emails when they originated from my postfix
system and then got relayed through the ISP.  It appears that I
correctly figured out why.  If you check the full mail headers, you
will see that that message originated from my Postfix system.  That is
the first time I have been able to get a mail message through when it
originated from my Postfix system.

Short answer, you should have gotten that email but I didn't expect it
to go through.

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do you have to pay to use that domain name to get it through.. is your
port 25 blocked??? 


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Re: [newbie] Test Message

2004-01-14 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Wednesday 14 January 2004 07:32 am, jason pearl wrote:

 do you have to pay to use that domain name to get it through.. is your
 port 25 blocked???

No.  My port 25 IS blocked, at least for outgoing traffic on port 25  So, I 
have to smarthost my mail through my ISP, basically, Postfix relays all 
outgoing external mail through the ISP's mail server using smtpauth to 
transmit.  Internal mail (for bphinney.homelinux.org) is routed internally 
through my mail server.

So family members using my servers can communicate internally amongst 
ourselves and outgoing mail gets routed through one more hop than it would 
normally.

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Re: [newbie] Test Message

2004-01-14 Thread jason pearl
On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 09:21:19 -0500
Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Wednesday 14 January 2004 07:32 am, jason pearl wrote:

 do you have to pay to use that domain name to get it through.. is
your port 25 blocked???

No.  My port 25 IS blocked, at least for outgoing traffic on port 25 
So, I have to smarthost my mail through my ISP, basically, Postfix
relays all outgoing external mail through the ISP's mail server using
smtpauth to transmit.  Internal mail (for bphinney.homelinux.org) is
routed internally through my mail server.

So family members using my servers can communicate internally amongst 
ourselves and outgoing mail gets routed through one more hop than it
would normally.

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So did you have to pay extra to(im assuming homelinux is dyndns.org) get
them to reroute mail? I would rather have my own mail server then to use
cox cable.  thanks

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Re: [newbie] Test Message

2004-01-14 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Wednesday 14 January 2004 07:28 pm, jason pearl wrote:

 So did you have to pay extra to(im assuming homelinux is dyndns.org) get
 them to reroute mail? I would rather have my own mail server then to use
 cox cable.  thanks

Depends on how much you want to depend on it.  I don't pay extra and mail that 
is bound for my dynamic domain name gets sent to my current IP address where 
my router sends it on to the mail server which is configured to accept mail 
for my dynamic domain name.  If the mail bound for my mail server is not for 
a real local user, the connection gets rejected and dropped and I get a 
notification that someone tried to relay mail through my server.

However, as someone on the expert list pointed out earlier, there is some risk 
involved in running a mail server off of a dynamic IP address.  If someone 
else that is running a mail server inherits your IP address before the 
dynamic DNS service gets the new IP and they happen to be running an SMTP 
server that is configured to accept mail for all domains regardless of where 
it is bound or who the message is to, they will intercept your mail.

I don't worry about that because the only people using my domain are family 
members and all of our mail is PGP encrypted.  Even if you intercepted some 
of the messages, you couldn't decrypt them so they would be useless to you.  
However, it is something to consider.
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Re: [newbie] Test Message

2004-01-14 Thread jason pearl
On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 20:32:22 -0500
Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Wednesday 14 January 2004 07:28 pm, jason pearl wrote:

 So did you have to pay extra to(im assuming homelinux is dyndns.org)
get them to reroute mail? I would rather have my own mail server then
to use cox cable.  thanks

Depends on how much you want to depend on it.  I don't pay extra and
mail that is bound for my dynamic domain name gets sent to my current
IP address where my router sends it on to the mail server which is
configured to accept mail for my dynamic domain name.  If the mail
bound for my mail server is not for a real local user, the connection
gets rejected and dropped and I get a notification that someone tried
to relay mail through my server.

However, as someone on the expert list pointed out earlier, there is
some risk involved in running a mail server off of a dynamic IP
address.  If someone else that is running a mail server inherits your
IP address before the dynamic DNS service gets the new IP and they
happen to be running an SMTP server that is configured to accept mail
for all domains regardless of where it is bound or who the message is
to, they will intercept your mail.

I don't worry about that because the only people using my domain are
family members and all of our mail is PGP encrypted.  Even if you
intercepted some of the messages, you couldn't decrypt them so they
would be useless to you.  However, it is something to consider.
-- 
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Software Test Engineer


Where is a good place to look on info on setting this up... i have
choices for forwarding mail or a mail reflector.. i know port 25 is
blocked by my isp. im assuming its just inbound that is blocked. I have
postfix installed but not running.

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Re: [newbie] Test Message

2004-01-13 Thread jason pearl
On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 19:38:05 -0500
Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Just testing to see if the smarthost relay problems that I had
previously have been fixed yet.  If not, this message should never
appear.-- 
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Software Test Engineer


so should we get this email...

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Re: [newbie] Test Message

2003-08-18 Thread Ralph Slooten
On Mon, 18 Aug 2003 09:32:47 -0400
Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This is a test message.  For some reason, my messages to the list are not 
 appearing (or at least I can't see them).  This is a test to see if an 
 alternate transport helps.

Gotcha here dude,
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Re: [newbie] Test message

2003-04-04 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Sat, 2003-04-05 at 05:20, Vinh N. Pham wrote:
 Sorry this is a test message

Sorry, the email didn't work; you'll have to try again! (g)

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Re: [newbie] Test message .. are these getting through ok?

2002-05-16 Thread Warren Post

Coming through fine.
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On 15 May 2002 14:10:07 -0400
Terry S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Just a test message everyone .. 



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Re: [newbie] Test message .. are these getting through ok?

2002-05-15 Thread Kaj Haulrich

On Wednesday 15 May 2002 08:10 pm, Terry S. wrote:
 Just a test message everyone .. seems I've been having problems sending
 messages to here on this email server, and wanted to see if anyone
 really was getting them.

 Thanks, and carry on!

 Terry

Read you loud and clear, Terry.

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Re: [newbie] test message - Please! don't read

2002-02-27 Thread Dennis Myers

On Friday 22 February 2002 16:03, you wrote:
 I asked you NOT to read this. I only sent it because I've been having a
 problem getting messages to the list from my mailserver at work.

 but you've gone and done it now...

 i can't begin to tell you the terrible pains that shall now befall you
 because you didn't heed the warning.

I didn't read it. I swear I didn't. So I won't have terrible pains befall me, 
right?
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RE: [newbie] test message

2002-02-27 Thread Aron Pilhofer

Mark, they're getting through. :)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Weaver
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 9:10 AM
To: Newbie List
Subject: [newbie] test message


cause they're not getting through. damn mailservers~!
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Re: [newbie] test message

2001-12-18 Thread Mark Weaver

On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 16:10:07 +1100
Brian Parish [EMAIL PROTECTED] studiouisly spake these words to ponder:

 I just got a message bounced from [EMAIL PROTECTED], but then it also 
 showed up in the newbie list as intended.  What gives?
 
 ...and this message from you Mark, was received twice as have lots of others. 
  Looks like we have a mailer with the hiccups somewhere.
 
 Brian
 


I've been getting them too. Any one have any ideas?
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Re: [newbie] test message

2001-12-18 Thread Mark Weaver

On Thu, 13 Dec 2001 09:27:08 -0500
Mark Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] studiouisly spake these words to ponder:

 hello? is this thing on???
 
 no message at home for a while and posts from both home and office not
 showing up although a small trickle coming in to the office.
 
 Mark
 
 

geez! another late arrival. that must have been a bad day.
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Re: [newbie] test message

2001-12-18 Thread Nzaoui

it's OK!

- Original Message -
From: Mark Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] test message


 On Thu, 13 Dec 2001 09:27:08 -0500
 Mark Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] studiouisly spake these words to
ponder:

  hello? is this thing on???
 
  no message at home for a while and posts from both home and office not
  showing up although a small trickle coming in to the office.
 
  Mark
 
 

 geez! another late arrival. that must have been a bad day.
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Re: [newbie] test message

2001-12-18 Thread Mark Weaver

On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 13:08:21 -0500
Anuerin G.  Diaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] studiouisly spake these words to ponder:

 
 hey mark, maybe something is wrong with your mail connection. i have just returned 
from a 3 day vacation and i got around 400 emails in my mailbox. got it all processed 
out by deleting all the samba, nvidia, and whos gary threads. with that number of 
emails, i figured they got it sorted out somewhat. ;-)
 
 ciao!

yes, actually we did. it was a very samba weekend.
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Re: [newbie] test message

2001-12-18 Thread Mark Weaver

On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 16:10:07 +1100
Brian Parish [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed frantically in their message:

 I just got a message bounced from [EMAIL PROTECTED], but then it also 
 showed up in the newbie list as intended.  What gives?
 
 ...and this message from you Mark, was received twice as have lots of others. 
  Looks like we have a mailer with the hiccups somewhere.
 
 Brian
 
 On Friday 14 December 2001 1:27 am, you wrote:
  hello? is this thing on???
 
  no message at home for a while and posts from both home and office not
  showing up although a small trickle coming in to the office.
 
  Mark
 
 

yes...something has got the hiccups. every time i tried to send to Newbie's address, 
(that would be Vic @ kittypuss) the message would get bounced or returned or 
something. I think Ed made him mad and now he won't talk to any of us.
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Re: [newbie] test message

2001-12-18 Thread Mark Weaver

On Mon, 17 Dec 2001 23:33:12 -0600
Roy Barton [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed frantically in their message:

 yeah tell me bout it.. one of mine got retruned for language content when all i had 
in it was the word 'crap'.. lol. and then  it shows up in the list .. after i edited 
it and sent it again.. 
 
 then 2 more messages saying it had bounced back.. hicup is right man.. some one must 
be running M$ Exchange.. lol
 


Roy,

it just keeps getting better and better. whats a gonna happen next?
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Re: [newbie] test message

2001-12-18 Thread Carroll Grigsby

On Tuesday 18 December 2001 03:04 pm, Mark Weaver wrote:
 On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 16:10:07 +1100

 Brian Parish [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed frantically in their message:
  I just got a message bounced from [EMAIL PROTECTED], but then it also
  showed up in the newbie list as intended.  What gives?
 
  ...and this message from you Mark, was received twice as have lots of
  others. Looks like we have a mailer with the hiccups somewhere.
 
  Brian
 
  On Friday 14 December 2001 1:27 am, you wrote:
   hello? is this thing on???
  
   no message at home for a while and posts from both home and office not
   showing up although a small trickle coming in to the office.
  
   Mark

 yes...something has got the hiccups. every time i tried to send to Newbie's
 address, (that would be Vic @ kittypuss) the message would get bounced or
 returned or something. I think Ed made him mad and now he won't talk to any
 of us.

Way to go, Ed. Best thing you've ever done on this list.
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Re: [newbie] test message

2001-12-18 Thread Ed Tharp

considering the nature of the internet, the fact that i would rather do it 
myself (please mom), the great deal of cash we expend to be on this list, I 
would suggest that control is almost always better if _I_ control it, so for 
those reasons I would suggest a local filter would be a better choice. in 
almost 9 years on-line, my /dev/null has never filled up.

On Wednesday 19 December 2001 08:49, you wrote:
 On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 08:02:40 -0500

 Mark Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 16:10:07 +1100
 
  Brian Parish [EMAIL PROTECTED] studiouisly spake these words to 
ponder:
   I just got a message bounced from [EMAIL PROTECTED], but then it
   also showed up in the newbie list as intended.  What gives?
  
   ...and this message from you Mark, was received twice as have lots of
   others. Looks like we have a mailer with the hiccups somewhere.
  
   Brian
 
  I've been getting them too. Any one have any ideas?

 maybe the list administrator can filter out the bounced and undelivered
 mail, delete it and marking the bouncy address for removal in the list.
 whenever i post i get tons of undelivered notices expecially from the dude
 with an address at mandrax.org.

 just a thought.



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Re: [newbie] test message

2001-12-18 Thread Anuerin G. Diaz


yeah, that hit me after a few days. thank i dont filter it to /dev/null but to the 
trash folder. it fills up but at least i dont get to see the message as i can just 
throw the buggers out with all the trashmails. the only reason im suggesting it is 
that some still access through dial-ups and that thrash is still causing some money on 
the poor slob (including me!)

if only my free popmail account supports filtering at the server then all is set...

ciao!

On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 19:58:24 -0500
Ed Tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 considering the nature of the internet, the fact that i would rather do it 
 myself (please mom), the great deal of cash we expend to be on this list, I 
 would suggest that control is almost always better if _I_ control it, so for 
 those reasons I would suggest a local filter would be a better choice. in 
 almost 9 years on-line, my /dev/null has never filled up.
 
 On Wednesday 19 December 2001 08:49, you wrote:
  On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 08:02:40 -0500
 
  Mark Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 16:10:07 +1100
  
   Brian Parish [EMAIL PROTECTED] studiouisly spake these words to 
 ponder:
I just got a message bounced from [EMAIL PROTECTED], but then it
also showed up in the newbie list as intended.  What gives?
   
...and this message from you Mark, was received twice as have lots of
others. Looks like we have a mailer with the hiccups somewhere.
   
Brian
  
   I've been getting them too. Any one have any ideas?
 
  maybe the list administrator can filter out the bounced and undelivered
  mail, delete it and marking the bouncy address for removal in the list.
  whenever i post i get tons of undelivered notices expecially from the dude
  with an address at mandrax.org.
 
  just a thought.
 
 
 


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Re: [newbie] test message

2001-12-18 Thread Mark Weaver

On Wed, 19 Dec 2001 08:49:57 -0500
Anuerin G.  Diaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] studiouisly spake these words to ponder:

 On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 08:02:40 -0500
 Mark Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 16:10:07 +1100
  Brian Parish [EMAIL PROTECTED] studiouisly spake these words to ponder:
  
   I just got a message bounced from [EMAIL PROTECTED], but then it also 
   showed up in the newbie list as intended.  What gives?
   
   ...and this message from you Mark, was received twice as have lots of others. 
Looks like we have a mailer with the hiccups somewhere.
   
   Brian
   
  
  
  I've been getting them too. Any one have any ideas?
 
 maybe the list administrator can filter out the bounced and undelivered mail, delete 
it and marking the bouncy address for removal in the list. whenever i post i get tons 
of undelivered notices expecially from the dude with an address at mandrax.org.
 
 just a thought.
 
 -- 
 

nah, I already tried that and there doesn't appear to be anything the can do about it 
at the moment. I've started to filter on this end though.
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Re: [newbie] test message

2001-12-18 Thread Mark Weaver

On Wed, 19 Dec 2001 09:17:38 -0500
Anuerin G.  Diaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] studiouisly spake these words to ponder:

 
 yeah, that hit me after a few days. thank i dont filter it to /dev/null but to the 
trash folder. it fills up but at least i dont get to see the message as i can just 
throw the buggers out with all the trashmails. the only reason im suggesting it is 
that some still access through dial-ups and that thrash is still causing some money 
on the poor slob (including me!)
 
 if only my free popmail account supports filtering at the server then all is set...
 
 ciao!
 

I hit it before it ever gets to my client. I let postfix take care of that bidness for 
me. Not sure where it ends up but I don't have to even think about taking out the 
trash.

I love my postfix filters...
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Re: [newbie] test message

2001-12-17 Thread Anuerin G. Diaz


hey mark, maybe something is wrong with your mail connection. i have just returned 
from a 3 day vacation and i got around 400 emails in my mailbox. got it all processed 
out by deleting all the samba, nvidia, and whos gary threads. with that number of 
emails, i figured they got it sorted out somewhat. ;-)

ciao!

On Thu, 13 Dec 2001 09:27:08 -0500
Mark Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 hello? is this thing on???
 
 no message at home for a while and posts from both home and office not
 showing up although a small trickle coming in to the office.
 
 Mark
 
 
 


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25/F Equitable-PCI Tower
ADB Ave. cor. Poveda St.,
Ortigas Center, Pasig City,
Philippines 1605

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Re: [newbie] test message

2001-12-17 Thread Brian Parish

I just got a message bounced from [EMAIL PROTECTED], but then it also 
showed up in the newbie list as intended.  What gives?

...and this message from you Mark, was received twice as have lots of others. 
 Looks like we have a mailer with the hiccups somewhere.

Brian

On Friday 14 December 2001 1:27 am, you wrote:
 hello? is this thing on???

 no message at home for a while and posts from both home and office not
 showing up although a small trickle coming in to the office.

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Re: [newbie] test message

2001-12-17 Thread Roy Barton



yeah tell me bout it.. one of mine got retruned for 
language content when all i had in it was the word 'crap'.. lol. and then 
it shows up in the list .. after i edited it and sent it again.. 

then 2 more messages saying it had bounced back.. 
hicup is right man.. some one must be running M$ Exchange.. lol

roy

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Brian 
  Parish 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 
2310
  Subject: Re: [newbie] test message
  I just got a message bounced from [EMAIL PROTECTED], but then it 
  also showed up in the newbie list as intended. What 
  gives?..and this message from you Mark, was received twice as have 
  lots of others. Looks like we have a mailer with the hiccups 
  somewhere.BrianOn Friday 14 December 2001 1:27 am, you 
  wrote: hello? is this thing on??? no message at home 
  for a while and posts from both home and office not showing up 
  although a small trickle coming in to the office. Mark
  
  

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Re: [newbie] test message

2000-08-03 Thread Troy Weir

Same goes for here until today (7/29).  was there some kind of server
problem???
- Original Message -
From: Joe Brault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2000 10:52 AM
Subject: [newbie] test message


 Hello all,


 I haven't received mail from this list in several days... Am I still
 subscribed to it?  Is it still in operation?   Hello? :)  Can someone fill
 me in...  Thanks...


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Re: [newbie] test message

2000-07-30 Thread Bob

I'd say the lists are working fine.
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