[newbie-it] Alcatel Speedtouch USB

2002-01-27 Per discussione Marco Fortini



Salve a tutti,

mentre attendoche mi arrivi pe postauna 
versione di Mandrake 8.1,

continuo ancora stremato e senza speranza a settare 
il modem ADSLAlcatelSpeedtouch USBcon il Mandrake 
8.0.

Penso di aver confinato il problema al "ppp 
daemon", ma ancora niente. Ho trovato in rete un HOWTO su questo modem, ma 
alcune frasi mi sono ostiche; per esempio vorrei sapere che razza di significato 
ha questa frase:

You'll need ppp support in your kernel. If needed 
compile these parts:

 M PPP (point-to-point 
protocol) support (CONFIG_PPP)
 M PPP support for sync 
tty ports (CONFIG_PPP_SYNC_TTY)
---
non ho capito se si tratta di istruzioni da dare 
nella shell di comando oppure altro.
infatti il comando "M" nonviene 
riconosciuto.

saluto e ringrazio

Marco


[newbie-it] Kernel 2.4.16

2002-01-27 Per discussione Fabio Manunza



Ho ricompilato il mio primo kernel (mi sento un po' 
come un papà..), volendo aggiornare la mdk8.1 dal 2.4.8 al 2.4.16.
Dato il bzImage e poi il bzdisk per riavviare da 
floppy, poi i vari make modules, make modules_install, e per ultimo il depmod 
-a,ho riavviato, ottenendo (miracolo) un sistema funzionante. A questo 
punto volevo provare l'avvio da disco rigido, e per questo ho trasferito bzImage 
in /boot, rinominandolo vmlinuz-2.4.16, quindi in lilo.conf ho inserito la 
chiamata al nuovo kernel copiando quella vecchia e sostituendo, ovviamente 
vmlinuz-2.4.16 dove c'era vmlinuz. Salvato il tutto come ciliegina sulla torta 
ho dato lilo -v per agganciare il nuovo kernel, e quindi ho riavviato 
trepidante..
Risultato, schermo nero e timidi segni di vita del 
HD che frulla, mi pare, senza costrutto; nient'altro.
Chi mi sa dire dove ho sbagliato?
Per inciso, riavviando da floppy, il kernel non mi 
permetteva l'accesso al masterizzatore IDE/ATAPIin emulazione SCSI 
nonstante avessi selezionato "emulazione SCSI","SCSI support","SCSI generic 
support", definendolo un sistema di blocchi non valido; inoltre non funzionava 
il supermount (boh, poco male..), nonostante avessi compreso l'opzione. Problemi 
dovuti all'avviamento da dischetto, o si sarebbero presentati anche ad un avvio 
da HD? in sede di avvio in mezzo a tutti i messaggi con "OK", c'era un "FALLITO" 
in "Monto i filesystem locali Mount: tipo fs errato, operazione non valida 
superblocco su none (qualcosa..), o troppi filesystem montati"; poi però potevo 
tranquillamente passare dalla partizione Linux a quella Windows, accedere al 
CD-Rom ed al floppy.
Ringrazio per eventuali 
illuminazioni..
Fabio


Re: [newbie-it] Alcatel Speedtouch USB

2002-01-27 Per discussione Fabio Manunza



Ciao,
Penso si riferisca alla ricompilazione del Kernel 
ed alla immissione come (M)oduli delle opzioni descritte..
Fabio

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Marco 
  Fortini 
  To: Mailing list Linux 
  Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 2:35 
  PM
  Subject: [newbie-it] Alcatel Speedtouch 
  USB
  
  Salve a tutti,
  
  mentre attendoche mi arrivi pe 
  postauna versione di Mandrake 8.1,
  
  vorrei sapere che razza di significato ha questa 
  frase:
  
  You'll need ppp support in your kernel. If needed 
  compile these parts:
  
   M PPP (point-to-point 
  protocol) support (CONFIG_PPP)
   M PPP support for sync 
  tty ports (CONFIG_PPP_SYNC_TTY)
  ---
  non ho capito se si tratta di istruzioni da dare 
  nella shell di comando oppure altro.
  infatti il comando "M" nonviene 
  riconosciuto.
  
  saluto e ringrazio
  
  Marco


Re: [newbie-it] Alcatel Speedtouch USB

2002-01-27 Per discussione Marco

Ciao,
se può esserti utile, visti anche i miei numerosi problemi nel cercare 
di far funzionare l'Alcatel Speedtouch USB (Manta) anche su Mandrake 
8.1, ti rimando ad un mio brevissimo tutorial passo passo che puoi 
trovare su un sito che sto creando. L'indirizzo è 
http://linux.nukien.com

Ciao

Marco Forti


Re: [newbie-it] Kernel 2.4.16

2002-01-27 Per discussione miKe

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Il 15:51, domenica 27 gennaio 2002, in merito a [newbie-it] Kernel 
2.4.16, Fabio Manunza ha scritto:

vedo con piacere che continui col cross posting...

..
 riavviato, ottenendo (miracolo) un sistema funzionante. A questo
 punto volevo provare l'avvio da disco rigido, e per questo ho
 trasferito bzImage in /boot, rinominandolo vmlinuz-2.4.16, quindi

copia /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/bzImage in /boot
e rinominalo vmlinuz-2.4.16

ora aggiorna lilo

se hai già installato i moduli, riavvia

se ti compare ancora lo schermo nero (problemi col fb)
 aggiungi vga=normal al lilo


 Per inciso, riavviando da floppy, il kernel non mi permetteva
 l'accesso al masterizzatore IDE/ATAPI in emulazione SCSI nonstante
 avessi selezionato emulazione SCSI,SCSI support,SCSI generic
 support, definendolo un sistema di blocchi non valido; inoltre non

aggiorna fstab rimuovendo le chiamate a /mnt/cdrom (ad esempio)
e sostituendole con /dev/hdxx
non hai più il supermount quindi non puoi chiamare le periferiche a 
partire dal punto di montaggio ma devi dire all'automount quali 
periferiche montare  (/dev/hdxx) e dove (/mnt/xxx)


 funzionava il supermount (boh, poco male..), nonostante avessi
 compreso l'opzione. Problemi dovuti all'avviamento da dischetto, o
 si sarebbero presentati anche ad un avvio da HD? in sede di avvio
 in mezzo a tutti i messaggi con OK, c'era un FALLITO in Monto
 i filesystem locali  Mount: tipo fs errato, operazione non valida
 superblocco su none (qualcosa..), o troppi filesystem montati; poi

ok, problemi che si risolvono aggiornando fstab

- -- 
bye

miKe

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Re: [newbie-it] Kernel 2.4.16

2002-01-27 Per discussione Fabio Manunza


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From: miKe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 6:44 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie-it] Kernel 2.4.16


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 Il 15:51, domenica 27 gennaio 2002, in merito a [newbie-it] Kernel
 2.4.16, Fabio Manunza ha scritto:

 vedo con piacere che continui col cross posting...

Uhm.. a questo punto mi sorge spontanea la domanda: cos'è 'sto cross-posting
che tanto ti secca? Pensavo potesse essere l'inserire più di un indirizzo
nel campo destinatari, cosa che non ho più fatto.. Se ho errato non so di
errare, a questo punto..
Illuminami.. :-)
Ciao, e grazie per le dritte, ti farò sapere se il parto avverrà con
successo!
Fabio





[newbie-it] grazie mike

2002-01-27 Per discussione Fabio Manunza

vga=normal   = bingo!
Tutto qua. Gli altri problemi sono scomparsi con l'avvio da HD, come
subodoravo...
Il sottoscritto c'ha mdk8.1 con 2.4.16.
Effettivamente una bella soddisfazione..
Grazie
Fabio





Re: [newbie-it] Alcatel Speedtouch USB

2002-01-27 Per discussione Marco Fortini

Ringrazio Marco Forti per la cortesia,
ho letto il tuo tutorial in Italiano, e prima di rimettermi a fare tentativi
vorrei chiarirmi delle perplessità.
E' circa un mese che mi sto arrovellando sui due HOWTO che dovresti
conoscere:
- Speedtouch USB Linux Driver di Johan Verrept
- Speedtouch USB using Benoit Papillault's OpenSource drivers di Trias,
Gomez e Brandl.

Molti step sono simili ai tuoi, ma essendo io un principiante ho incontrato
degli intoppi:
Procedendo secondo la tua sequenza e ricordando che lavoro per ora sul
Mandrake 8.0, queste sono le mie difficoltà:

- ho costruito ed installato lo speedtouch (nessun problema)

- ho costruito ed installato l'hotplug (nessun problema)

- ho costruito ed installato lo speedmgmt (forse non dovevo installarlo ?)

- ho letto di ricompilare il kernel per il supporto CONFIG_PPP e il
CONFIG_PPP_SYNC_TTY, ma sinceramente non so come si ricompila il kernel con
queste integrazioni.

- il comando ./MAKEDEV ppp è sconosciuto al mio computer, allora ho provato
sia col ppp-2.4.0-mdk installato da CD, sia col ppp-2.4.0b2-2.i386.rpm
scaricato da rete.

- del file /etc/resolv.conf non me ne aveva mai parlato nessuno

- il file /etc/ppp/peers/adsl lo ho creato, ma non so se esiste lo
/usr/local/bin/pppoa2

- dei files chap-secrets e pap-secrets non ho capito bene il gioco
dell'asterisco, ho comunque messo:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] * miapassword *

- il comando modem_run -m -f /usr/share/speedtouch/mgmt.o
  da me era: modem_run -m -f /path/to/mgmt.o (comunque modem_run è comando
sconosciuto)

- infine pppd call adsl (non fa nulla)

che posso fare per progredire un po' ?

ringrazio

Marco Fortini


- Original Message -
From: Marco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 5:46 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie-it] Alcatel Speedtouch USB


 Ciao,
 se può esserti utile, visti anche i miei numerosi problemi nel cercare
 di far funzionare l'Alcatel Speedtouch USB (Manta) anche su Mandrake
 8.1, ti rimando ad un mio brevissimo tutorial passo passo che puoi
 trovare su un sito che sto creando. L'indirizzo è
 http://linux.nukien.com

 Ciao

 Marco Forti





Re: [newbie-it] Alcatel Speedtouch USB

2002-01-27 Per discussione Marco

 Ringrazio Marco Forti per la cortesia,

Troppo buono :-) 

Di seguito troverai le risposte alle tue domande (che spero possano 
aiutarti a capire meglio i passaggi necessari all'installazione).

Se però mi permetti di darti un consiglio prova a seguire tutti i 
passaggi che ho indicato nel mio mini tutorial dall'inizio alla 
fine ... poi fammi sapere 

- risposte ai tuoi quesiti 

 Molti step sono simili ai tuoi, ma essendo io un principiante ho incon
trato
 degli intoppi:
 Procedendo secondo la tua sequenza e ricordando che lavoro per ora sul
 Mandrake 8.0, queste sono le mie difficoltà:
 - ho costruito ed installato lo speedtouch (nessun problema)

Di driver per lo speedtouch non ne esiste solo uno, hai scaricato ed 
installato quello che ho consigliato nel mio minitutorial ?

 - ho costruito ed installato l'hotplug (nessun problema)
Potevi farne a meno, è bacato e probabilmente non lo userai mai!

ho costruito ed installato lo speedmgmt (forse non dovevo installarlo ?
)
devi solo decomprimerlo (essendo in formato tar.gz devi decomprimerlo 
come descritto nel tutorial e copiare solo il file mgmt.o nella 
directory /usr/share/speedtouch/)
 
 - ho letto di ricompilare il kernel per il supporto CONFIG_PPP e il
 CONFIG_PPP_SYNC_TTY, ma sinceramente non so come si ricompila il kerne
l con queste integrazioni.
A mio avviso con Mandrake 8.0 non dovresti aver bisogno di ricompilare 
il kernel!

 il comando ./MAKEDEV ppp è sconosciuto al mio computer, allora ho prova
to
 sia col ppp-2.4.0-mdk installato da CD, sia col ppp-2.4.0b2-2.i386.rpm
 scaricato da rete.

il comando ./MAKEDEV ppp serve a creare le devices (periferiche) ppp 
nella directory /dev nel caso non fossero già presenti.
Per prima cosa accertatene spostandoti nella directory /dev con il 
comando cd /dev
poi con il comando ls ppp* guarda se ottieni un output (elenco di file 
che iniziano con ppp) e solo se non vedi files che iniziano con ppp 
dovrai utilizzare il comando ./MAKEDEV ppp (che funziona anche dal tuo 
computer ma solo se sei nella directory /dev).

 - del file /etc/resolv.conf non me ne aveva mai parlato nessuno
Io consiglio di modificarlo solo perché ho notato che l'uso dei DNS 
automatici con l'opzione usepeerdns crea in Mandrake 8.1 (almeno a me) 
qualche problema così è meglio indicarli esplicitamente nel 
file /etc/resolv.conf
 
 - il file /etc/ppp/peers/adsl lo ho creato, ma non so se esiste lo
 /usr/local/bin/pppoa2

Puoi accertartene con
cd /usr/local/bin/
ls pppoa*
ti fa vedere i file che iniziano con pppoa (probabilmente avrai sia 
pppoa2 che pppoa3

 - dei files chap-secrets e pap-secrets non ho capito bene il gioco
 dell'asterisco, ho comunque messo:
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] * miapassword *

devi mettere il tuo username (quello comunicato dal tuo provider ... 
attento che non necessariamente deve avere @dominio.it, ad esempio BBB 
di telecom ti fornisce uno username senza @tin.it per collegarti) tra 
virgolette poi uno spazio poi un asterisco tra virgolette poi la tua 
password tra virgolette ed infine un altro asterisco tra virgolette
esempio:
pippo * p1pp0 *

 - il comando modem_run -m -f /usr/share/speedtouch/mgmt.o
   da me era: modem_run -m -
f /path/to/mgmt.o (comunque modem_run è comando
 sconosciuto)

attento /path/to/mgmt.o è solo un esempio che in italiano suonerebbe 
come:  /percorso/di/mgmt.o
quindi esattamente /usr/share/speedtouch/mgmt.o
in quanto a modem_run questo esiste se hai usato il driver di Papillaut 
(quello consigliato nel mio tutorial) e funziona solo se lo lanci da 
root e non da utente 
 - infine pppd call adsl (non fa nulla)
diciamo che non da output ... per vedere se ha dato buoni frutti basta 
lanciare subito dopo il comando ifconfig ppp0 (da root) ... se da un 
output probabilmente ha funzionato.

Ciao e fammi sapere

Marco 
marco.forti[at]iol.it
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[newbie-it] help-me

2002-01-27 Per discussione [EMAIL PROTECTED]

ciao a tutti,chi può aiutarmi.io ho un sistema rh7.2, il mio prblema è 
questo: come faccio a configurare il tasto centrale del mouse 
Logitech,lo scroll???ancora ho letto che posso creare un CD boot 
per caricare Linux tipo floppy ? ho capito bene!!!GRAZIE MILLE

  Guerra Antonio
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[newbie-it] Galeon e java

2002-01-27 Per discussione Gabriele Gardelli

Uso abitualmente Galeon per la navigazione su internet,ma ho dei problemi con 
java: quando entro in siti che usano questo tipo di applicazione mi compare 
il messaggio per scaricare il plugin.
L'ho fatto ma non ottengo alcun risultato.
Dove sbaglio ?

Grazie




[newbie] system slow

2002-01-27 Per discussione Wayne Petherick

All,
I recently used the ximian install script to update to
gnome 1.4.  Prior to this I  had used red carpet to
update the system but owing to a few problems ended up
using the script instead.  After using the script, the
system started to work very slowly (click netscape
button, hard drive light flickers, goes out, flickers,
goes out and about 20 seconds later starts).  It has
never been this slow before.
Owing to this, I had to reinstall LM 8.0 (I am not yet
a competent troubleshooter!) and ever since doing this
my system has been running the same.  I repartitioned
the hard drives, formatted, etc.  There should be
nothing left to screw things up.  I had really just
started to ditch M$ too, and now my LM system is
running so slow it is frustrating.  Even a terminal
takes 20 seconds to open.  I have a 40gig HD and a P4
1.6 so it is not a slug.  Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Wayne


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[newbie] hda5 critically full

2002-01-27 Per discussione Walter Logeman

I have have error message that hda5 is critically full.

I have a 30gig hard disk ... it would seem (i did not set it up 
- and i am totally new)  

In the KDE Control Center it would seem that hd is in three 
sectors /dev/hda5 ext3 3.36 (mount point: /)  99.9% full!

Plenty of room on hda7 (mount point: home) and hda2 is the 
windows partition.

How can i check what is happening here, am not using the machine 
to any great extent - have only had it a week.


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[newbie] hda5 critically full

2002-01-27 Per discussione Walter Logeman

I have have error message that hda5 is critically full.

I have a 30gig hard disk ... it would seem (i did not set it up 
- and i am totally new)  

In the KDE Control Center it would seem that hd is in three 
sectors /dev/hda5 ext3 3.36 (mount point: /)  99.9% full!

Plenty of room on hda7 (mount point: home) and hda2 is the 
windows partition.

How can i check what is happening here, am not using the machine 
to any great extent - have only had it a week.


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[newbie] Trouble De-Installing Linux on Dual OS computer

2002-01-27 Per discussione Martijn van der Vorst



Hello,
I have installed Linux-Mandrake 7.1 onto my 
computer, My computer was set up with two hard drives C: and D:. There are 2 D: 
drives, which we switch for whichever use we want. I installed Linux on the 
empty D: drive. Now I cannot change to the other D: drive to get my stuff. It 
won't boot. How can I de-install Linux???


Re: [newbie] System restarts itself

2002-01-27 Per discussione Bill Davidson

Thanks, I'll have a look at that. My cpu fan does appear to be working 
fine. I suppose that doesn't necessarily mean that it's not overheating 
though. Maybe I'll pull my modem first, as I have a dsl connection and I 
don't use it.

Bill Davidson

On Saturday 26 January 2002 10:16 pm, Erylon wrote:
 My first thought is hardware problem.  I had a bad ethernet card that
 did that to me--took me months to find out what was causing it.

 Weird, I know.

 Also, an overtemp problem via the cpu can do this.  How's your cpu fan?

 e.

 On Saturday 26 January 2002 11:21, you wrote:
  I started having a problem with my machine restarting every so
  often(at least once day). It's happened when I'm in kde and at a
  console(with no X-session). Any ideas? Hardwre problem perhaps? Here
  are a couple of lines from my /var/log/messages file:
 
  CROND[9306]: (root) CMD (run-parts /etc/cron.hourly)
  syslogd 1.4-0: restart.
  kernel: klogd 1.4-0, log source = /proc/kmsg started.
 
  I cut the lines short so people don't have to scroll accross the page.
  Let me know if that's not enough.



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Re: [newbie] How to work PCMCIA

2002-01-27 Per discussione Joan Tur
Es Diumenge 27 Gener 2002 08:10, en YUKKI va escriure:
 Hi all

 i wanna use PCMCIA for 3com 5C589C with mandrake 8.1 at Vaio C1XE
Have you tryed to run DrakConf - Network with the card in ?

If that doesn't work, what show the following commands:
# ifconfig
# cardctl ident

Hope that helps...

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Re: [newbie] kde startup sound

2002-01-27 Per discussione Jason Jesso

Looks like all permissions are fine to me. I still don't see anything in
kmix (just a grey window).  

Only one person has replied so I am assuming very few people have had
this problem. (why me?)

I will take this to a kde mail list and get back to this list in case
someone else has this problem.

[jason@cahill pics]$ ls -l /usr/bin/kmix
-rwxr-xr-x1 root root   134524 Dec  6 10:25 /usr/bin/kmix*

[jason@cahill pics]$ pwd
/usr/share/apps/kmix/pics
[jason@cahill pics]$ ls -l
total 52
-rw-r--r--1 root root  461 Jun  5  2000 kmixdocked.png
-rw-r--r--1 root root  323 Jun  5  2000 mix_audio.png
-rw-r--r--1 root root  334 Jun  5  2000 mix_bass.png
-rw-r--r--1 root root  489 Jun  5  2000 mix_cd.png
-rw-r--r--1 root root  331 Jun  5  2000 mix_ext.png
-rw-r--r--1 root root  350 Jun  5  2000
mix_microphone.png
-rw-r--r--1 root root  337 Jun  5  2000 mix_midi.png
-rw-r--r--1 root root  344 Jun  5  2000 mix_recmon.png
-rw-r--r--1 root root  265 Jul 20  2000 mix_surround.png
-rw-r--r--1 root root  350 Jun  5  2000 mix_treble.png
-rw-r--r--1 root root  340 Jun  5  2000 mix_unknown.png
-rw-r--r--1 root root  164 Jul 20  2000 mix_video.png
-rw-r--r--1 root root  323 Jun  5  2000 mix_volume.png
[jason@cahill pics]$



On Sun, 2002-01-27 at 09:01, Harry Ellis wrote:
 Jason wrote:
  Another strange thing is that in Kmix I don't see
 anything, just a grey
  window.  No volume settings, nothing.
 
 
 
 Jason, I had the same problem. Surprised I haven't seen it
 posted more often.
 
 First, find the Kmix images in
 /user/share/apps/Kmix/pics (The easiest way is to go through
 the Home icon in root.)
 Right click each icon, go to properties and change the
 permissions so everyone can use the damn things.
 Second, check the permissions on Kmix itself just to be sure
 /usr/bin/kmix
 
 Hope everything works. I had an awful time with sound. Never
 did resolve everything.
 
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Re: [newbie] System restarts itself

2002-01-27 Per discussione Bill Davidson

On Sunday 27 January 2002 01:15 am, Robin wrote:
 I agree with Erylon, I had the same problem 2 month back when I add in a
 new piece of RAM. I had one piece of 256 and added another piece of 256,
 then the machine started to reboot for no reason at all. The interesting
 thing was that it only happened when load started to get heavy. After I
 replaced the RAM, I then have no problem at all.

 Robin

Funny you should mention that, because I noticed that it usually happens 
when it's been sitting for a while. The first thing I try to do will 
trigger it. Oh, well. I guess I'll start narrowing things down. Thanks for 
your reply.

Bill Davidson



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RE: [newbie] Trouble De-Installing Linux on Dual OS computer

2002-01-27 Per discussione Michael Viron

Charles,

Actually, you won't be able to remove the ext2 partitions with windows
fdisk.

What needs to happen is boot using something similar to tom's
root / boot disk (link should be off the distribution page of linux.org)
or into your linux install, run linux fdisk as root, remove all ext2
partitions.  Boot into windows, run 'fdisk /mbr' (note, this is windows
fdisk) -- at that point, you will have cleaned linux off your computer
completely.

This is, of course, the same set of instructions that civilme and myself
have sent to the list countless times.

Michael

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At 07:48 PM 01/27/2002 +0900, you wrote: 

Martijn  asked,How can I de-install Linux???   color=#ff size=4
  color=#ff  size=4There are probably many people who will give you
better advice than I can  on how to do this. If it were me, I'd probably
end up having to boot up with  Windows boot disks and use Fdisk to reformat
the drive and reset the partitions.  
Or, if you have Windows still installed and accessible, you can wipe out
the  Linux partitions with the disk manager and reformat them to FAT or
whatever you  are using, and then reinstall Linux.   color=#ff
size=4color=#ff  size=4One thing I found useful, however, before
starting any work of this sort,  is to use a disk imaging program like
Norton Ghost to make an image of your  drives before you start. Then if
anything goes wrong, you can put in the Ghost  boot disk and the CD you
made, and return everything the way it was in 15  minutes. 

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RE: [newbie] resizing partitions

2002-01-27 Per discussione FLYNN, Steve

With 768 meg or RAM, you'll be hard pushed to use any swap at all I'd have
thought!

Before you go off fidling with partitions, I'd fire up your installation
disk in windows and use RAWWRITE to dump the MEMTEST image to a floppy disk.
Reboot with the floppy in and MEMTEST will boot automatically. Let it test
your memory (it'll take a while with 768 meg!). Make sure you don't have
some flaky memory - it could cause the problem you are describing.

As for seeing all of you memory in Use under Linux, this is perfectly
normal, and it a GOOD thing - Linux uses as much memory as it can to cache
stuff, to improve response time. Unused memory is wasted memory in Unix
parlance. If any programs request memory which is being used for buffering
or cache, then it will be released by the kernel and given to the requsting
task.

I suspect you'll find that more swap has no effect on your lock-up's  but
by all means try - it's always good experience, providing you don't lose
anything!

 -Original Message-
 From: John Cichy [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 1:38 AM
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Re: [newbie] resizing partitions
 
 Well, I am having a problem with it locking up, and I want to make sure it
 is 
 not something in the original config. Using the old train of thought I 
 configured a 128mg swap. I have 768mg real memory. If I do a 'free -m' I
 will 
 see very little use of the swap (1-8megs) but real stays close to 750mg,
 as 
 the system aproches 768 the swap does not increase, but if I go over 768 
 everything locks up.  So I figure the first thing I need to do is bring
 the 
 swap up to what everyone is recomending, I have a 40gig and and a 60gig
 drive 
 in the box, so there is no reason why I should not at least try the
 'double 
 the ram idea'.
 
 Actually I was hoping that diskdrake would acomplish this because I was
 able 
 to resize my son's windoze partition when he wanted to play with linux and
 I 
 installed mandrake. Funny, this is the first time I have found a linux
 tool 
 that will do to windoze what it won't do for itself GRIN.
 
 John 
 
 On Saturday 26 January 2002 18:23, you wrote:
  I believe GnuPartEd can non-destructively resize partitions, but make
 sure
  you have any important data backed up first, just in case.
 
  What makes you think you need to resize your swap partition anyway? Does
  your machine come close to utilising all of your existing swap space
 now?
 
  -Original Message-
  From:   John Cichy [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent:   Saturday, January 26, 2002 10:49 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject:[newbie] resizing partitions
 
  Hello,
  After following the swap partition thread, I have realized that I
  should
  increase my swap partition, how can I do this without distroying
  data? I do
  not want to use partition magic.
 
  TIA,
  John
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RE: [newbie] Cd-Rom / Digital Speakers

2002-01-27 Per discussione FLYNN, Steve

What does 'mount' say?



-Original Message-
From:   Paul Kraus [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Sunday, January 27, 2002 2:24 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: [newbie] Cd-Rom / Digital Speakers

That was supposed to read... I can't access any of the cd-rom
drives.

On Sat, 26 Jan 2002 21:15:48 -0500
Paul Kraus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 As far as getting digital speakers to work on a sound blaster live
you need to log in as root and the #emu-config -d
 this sets the port to digital. In case you where curious.
 
 For some reason I can access any of the cd-rom drives. I have two.
In fact the cd-rom icon isn't even on the kde desktop. They worked yesterday
and I haven't installed any new software. Any thoughts?
 
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RE: [newbie] Book question.

2002-01-27 Per discussione FLYNN, Steve

Sounds like you want to learn how to use your desktop environment
efficiently first. If you use KDE, start with the KDE manuals and then move
onto LSAG (Linux system Administrators Guide). This book is available for
installation from your disks - it comes with the distribution.

-Original Message-
From:   Javier de Lázaro Redruello [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Sunday, January 27, 2002 12:59 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:[newbie] Book question.

I´ve got a simple question for you, guys:

Wich book should I read to beguin learning MDK Linux?

I want to learn all those easy things as making short cuts,
installing
software, etc.

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Re: [newbie] Books on Mandrake

2002-01-27 Per discussione Dan Butler
I favor www.booksonline.com .  Go to their Computer and Information Science
area.
Dan B

- Original Message -
From: "Charles Muller" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 5:42 AM
Subject: [newbie] Books on Mandrake


 Dear Newbies,

 I am looking for a good book on Mandrake, that introduces basic functions
 including installing new software, drivers, and so forth. I am living in
 Japan, so I don't have a wide selection of books in English available to
me
 locally. I checked Amazon, but they only listed one book on Mandrake,
which
 got pretty poor reviews. Would a book on Red Hat cover most of the same
 material concerning general Linux basics?

 Regards,

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[newbie] installing 8.1

2002-01-27 Per discussione Tom Harris

I just bought Mankrake 8.1 Standard edition but I am having trouble
installing.  The problem is that my laptop as a space for a floppy drive and
CD-ROM drive however I can only have one in at once at my BIOS won't allow
me to boot from a CD. Because I cannot use both floppy and CD at once I
can't use a boot disk. The only workaround I can think of is to go into dos
or whatever and open the install file but I don't what it is. Please could
someone reply and tell me the name of the file.

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[newbie] name of 8.1 install file

2002-01-27 Per discussione Tom Harris

I just bought Mankrake 8.1 Standard edition but I am having trouble
installing.  The problem is that my laptop as a space for a floppy drive and
CD-ROM drive however I can only have one in at once at my BIOS won't allow
me to boot from a CD. Because I cannot use both floppy and CD at once I
can't use a boot disk. The only workaround I can think of is to go into dos
or whatever and open the install file but I don't what it is. Please could
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Re: [newbie] resizing partitions

2002-01-27 Per discussione John Cichy

After another crash last night I pulled out the third stick, so far so good, 
but I would like to do a mem test.

One problem with this, I have NO windoze boxes, and have not for about 3 
years now. can this be done with dd and if so what is the comand?

TIA,
John

On Sunday 27 January 2002 11:27, you wrote:
 With 768 meg or RAM, you'll be hard pushed to use any swap at all I'd have
 thought!

 Before you go off fidling with partitions, I'd fire up your installation
 disk in windows and use RAWWRITE to dump the MEMTEST image to a floppy
 disk. Reboot with the floppy in and MEMTEST will boot automatically. Let it
 test your memory (it'll take a while with 768 meg!). Make sure you don't
 have some flaky memory - it could cause the problem you are describing.

 As for seeing all of you memory in Use under Linux, this is perfectly
 normal, and it a GOOD thing - Linux uses as much memory as it can to cache
 stuff, to improve response time. Unused memory is wasted memory in Unix
 parlance. If any programs request memory which is being used for buffering
 or cache, then it will be released by the kernel and given to the requsting
 task.

 I suspect you'll find that more swap has no effect on your lock-up's  but
 by all means try - it's always good experience, providing you don't lose
 anything!

  -Original Message-
  From:   John Cichy [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent:   Sunday, January 27, 2002 1:38 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject:Re: [newbie] resizing partitions
 
  Well, I am having a problem with it locking up, and I want to make sure
  it is
  not something in the original config. Using the old train of thought I
  configured a 128mg swap. I have 768mg real memory. If I do a 'free -m' I
  will
  see very little use of the swap (1-8megs) but real stays close to 750mg,
  as
  the system aproches 768 the swap does not increase, but if I go over 768
  everything locks up.  So I figure the first thing I need to do is bring
  the
  swap up to what everyone is recomending, I have a 40gig and and a 60gig
  drive
  in the box, so there is no reason why I should not at least try the
  'double
  the ram idea'.
 
  Actually I was hoping that diskdrake would acomplish this because I was
  able
  to resize my son's windoze partition when he wanted to play with linux
  and I
  installed mandrake. Funny, this is the first time I have found a linux
  tool
  that will do to windoze what it won't do for itself GRIN.
 
  John
 
  On Saturday 26 January 2002 18:23, you wrote:
   I believe GnuPartEd can non-destructively resize partitions, but make
 
  sure
 
   you have any important data backed up first, just in case.
  
   What makes you think you need to resize your swap partition anyway?
   Does your machine come close to utilising all of your existing swap
   space
 
  now?
 
 -Original Message-
 From:   John Cichy [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent:   Saturday, January 26, 2002 10:49 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:[newbie] resizing partitions
  
 Hello,
 After following the swap partition thread, I have realized that I
   should
 increase my swap partition, how can I do this without distroying
   data? I do
 not want to use partition magic.
  
 TIA,
 John
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RE: [newbie] installing 8.1

2002-01-27 Per discussione FLYNN, Steve

Are you quite sure your BIOS won't allow a CDROM boot? It must be a truely
ancient laptop if it doesn't.

It's not a Dell Insprion is it?

What normally happens is that the CDROM can be connected top the parallel
port via a special cable which carries the signal and enough power for the
drive

-Original Message-
From:   Tom Harris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Sunday, January 27, 2002 5:10 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:[newbie] installing 8.1

I just bought Mankrake 8.1 Standard edition but I am having trouble
installing.  The problem is that my laptop as a space for a floppy
drive and
CD-ROM drive however I can only have one in at once at my BIOS won't
allow
me to boot from a CD. Because I cannot use both floppy and CD at
once I
can't use a boot disk. The only workaround I can think of is to go
into dos
or whatever and open the install file but I don't what it is. Please
could
someone reply and tell me the name of the file.

Tom.


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RE: [newbie] installing 8.1

2002-01-27 Per discussione Tom Harris

Extremely ancient! I have an Olivetti Echos P90s. I've checked and sadly
it's not possible to connect it via a cable :-(

Tom.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of FLYNN, Steve
Sent: 27 January 2002 17:23
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1


Are you quite sure your BIOS won't allow a CDROM boot? It must be a truely
ancient laptop if it doesn't.

It's not a Dell Insprion is it?

What normally happens is that the CDROM can be connected top the parallel
port via a special cable which carries the signal and enough power for the
drive

-Original Message-
From:   Tom Harris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Sunday, January 27, 2002 5:10 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:[newbie] installing 8.1

I just bought Mankrake 8.1 Standard edition but I am having trouble
installing.  The problem is that my laptop as a space for a floppy
drive and
CD-ROM drive however I can only have one in at once at my BIOS won't
allow
me to boot from a CD. Because I cannot use both floppy and CD at
once I
can't use a boot disk. The only workaround I can think of is to go
into dos
or whatever and open the install file but I don't what it is. Please
could
someone reply and tell me the name of the file.

Tom.


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RE: [newbie] installing 8.1

2002-01-27 Per discussione Tom Harris

or rather the floppy drive has a cable, but the BIOS doesn't recognise it!

tom.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Harris
Sent: 27 January 2002 17:22
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1


Extremely ancient! I have an Olivetti Echos P90s. I've checked and sadly
it's not possible to connect it via a cable :-(

Tom.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of FLYNN, Steve
Sent: 27 January 2002 17:23
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1


Are you quite sure your BIOS won't allow a CDROM boot? It must be a truely
ancient laptop if it doesn't.

It's not a Dell Insprion is it?

What normally happens is that the CDROM can be connected top the parallel
port via a special cable which carries the signal and enough power for the
drive

-Original Message-
From:   Tom Harris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Sunday, January 27, 2002 5:10 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:[newbie] installing 8.1

I just bought Mankrake 8.1 Standard edition but I am having trouble
installing.  The problem is that my laptop as a space for a floppy
drive and
CD-ROM drive however I can only have one in at once at my BIOS won't
allow
me to boot from a CD. Because I cannot use both floppy and CD at
once I
can't use a boot disk. The only workaround I can think of is to go
into dos
or whatever and open the install file but I don't what it is. Please
could
someone reply and tell me the name of the file.

Tom.


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RE: [newbie] resizing partitions

2002-01-27 Per discussione FLYNN, Steve

Yep - you can use dd.

Insert your Installation disk (I'm usign MDK 8.0 but it should be roughly
the same).

'dd if=/mnt/cdrom/images/memtest.bin of=/dev/fd0'

That' will copy the memtest.bin image file onto you floppy disk. It'll
overwrite anything on the disk so make sure there's nothing on there you
want to keep. Boot with it in the floppy drive and you'll get a blue screen
and it'll start performing the memtest automatically.

Good Luck.

 -Original Message-
 From: John Cichy [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 8:05 AM
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Re: [newbie] resizing partitions
 
 After another crash last night I pulled out the third stick, so far so
 good, 
 but I would like to do a mem test.
 
 One problem with this, I have NO windoze boxes, and have not for about 3 
 years now. can this be done with dd and if so what is the comand?
 
 TIA,
 John
 
 On Sunday 27 January 2002 11:27, you wrote:
  With 768 meg or RAM, you'll be hard pushed to use any swap at all I'd
 have
  thought!
 
  Before you go off fidling with partitions, I'd fire up your installation
  disk in windows and use RAWWRITE to dump the MEMTEST image to a floppy
  disk. Reboot with the floppy in and MEMTEST will boot automatically. Let
 it
  test your memory (it'll take a while with 768 meg!). Make sure you don't
  have some flaky memory - it could cause the problem you are describing.
 
  As for seeing all of you memory in Use under Linux, this is perfectly
  normal, and it a GOOD thing - Linux uses as much memory as it can to
 cache
  stuff, to improve response time. Unused memory is wasted memory in Unix
  parlance. If any programs request memory which is being used for
 buffering
  or cache, then it will be released by the kernel and given to the
 requsting
  task.
 
  I suspect you'll find that more swap has no effect on your lock-up's
 but
  by all means try - it's always good experience, providing you don't lose
  anything!
 
   -Original Message-
   From: John Cichy [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 1:38 AM
   To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject:  Re: [newbie] resizing partitions
  
   Well, I am having a problem with it locking up, and I want to make
 sure
   it is
   not something in the original config. Using the old train of thought I
   configured a 128mg swap. I have 768mg real memory. If I do a 'free -m'
 I
   will
   see very little use of the swap (1-8megs) but real stays close to
 750mg,
   as
   the system aproches 768 the swap does not increase, but if I go over
 768
   everything locks up.  So I figure the first thing I need to do is
 bring
   the
   swap up to what everyone is recomending, I have a 40gig and and a
 60gig
   drive
   in the box, so there is no reason why I should not at least try the
   'double
   the ram idea'.
  
   Actually I was hoping that diskdrake would acomplish this because I
 was
   able
   to resize my son's windoze partition when he wanted to play with linux
   and I
   installed mandrake. Funny, this is the first time I have found a linux
   tool
   that will do to windoze what it won't do for itself GRIN.
  
   John
  
   On Saturday 26 January 2002 18:23, you wrote:
I believe GnuPartEd can non-destructively resize partitions, but
 make
  
   sure
  
you have any important data backed up first, just in case.
   
What makes you think you need to resize your swap partition anyway?
Does your machine come close to utilising all of your existing swap
space
  
   now?
  
-Original Message-
From:   John Cichy [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Saturday, January 26, 2002 10:49 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:[newbie] resizing partitions
   
Hello,
After following the swap partition thread, I have realized
 that I
should
increase my swap partition, how can I do this without
 distroying
data? I do
not want to use partition magic.
   
TIA,
John
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RE: [newbie] installing 8.1

2002-01-27 Per discussione FLYNN, Steve

Hmmm - tricky. Have you got sfficient drive space to perform a Hard-drive
install? i.e. copy the CD's onto HD and install from that, rather than a CD.

-Original Message-
From:   Tom Harris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Sunday, January 27, 2002 5:24 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:RE: [newbie] installing 8.1

or rather the floppy drive has a cable, but the BIOS doesn't
recognise it!

tom.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Harris
Sent: 27 January 2002 17:22
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1


Extremely ancient! I have an Olivetti Echos P90s. I've checked and
sadly
it's not possible to connect it via a cable :-(

Tom.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of FLYNN, Steve
Sent: 27 January 2002 17:23
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1


Are you quite sure your BIOS won't allow a CDROM boot? It must be a
truely
ancient laptop if it doesn't.

It's not a Dell Insprion is it?

What normally happens is that the CDROM can be connected top the
parallel
port via a special cable which carries the signal and enough power
for the
drive

-Original Message-
From:   Tom Harris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Sunday, January 27, 2002 5:10 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:[newbie] installing 8.1

I just bought Mankrake 8.1 Standard edition but I am having
trouble
installing.  The problem is that my laptop as a space for a
floppy
drive and
CD-ROM drive however I can only have one in at once at my
BIOS won't
allow
me to boot from a CD. Because I cannot use both floppy and
CD at
once I
can't use a boot disk. The only workaround I can think of is
to go
into dos
or whatever and open the install file but I don't what it
is. Please
could
someone reply and tell me the name of the file.

Tom.


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RE: [newbie] installing 8.1

2002-01-27 Per discussione Tom Harris

i only have about 1gb which is nowhere near enough.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of FLYNN, Steve
Sent: 27 January 2002 17:33
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1


Hmmm - tricky. Have you got sfficient drive space to perform a Hard-drive
install? i.e. copy the CD's onto HD and install from that, rather than a CD.

-Original Message-
From:   Tom Harris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Sunday, January 27, 2002 5:24 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:RE: [newbie] installing 8.1

or rather the floppy drive has a cable, but the BIOS doesn't
recognise it!

tom.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Harris
Sent: 27 January 2002 17:22
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1


Extremely ancient! I have an Olivetti Echos P90s. I've checked and
sadly
it's not possible to connect it via a cable :-(

Tom.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of FLYNN, Steve
Sent: 27 January 2002 17:23
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1


Are you quite sure your BIOS won't allow a CDROM boot? It must be a
truely
ancient laptop if it doesn't.

It's not a Dell Insprion is it?

What normally happens is that the CDROM can be connected top the
parallel
port via a special cable which carries the signal and enough power
for the
drive

-Original Message-
From:   Tom Harris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Sunday, January 27, 2002 5:10 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:[newbie] installing 8.1

I just bought Mankrake 8.1 Standard edition but I am having
trouble
installing.  The problem is that my laptop as a space for a
floppy
drive and
CD-ROM drive however I can only have one in at once at my
BIOS won't
allow
me to boot from a CD. Because I cannot use both floppy and
CD at
once I
can't use a boot disk. The only workaround I can think of is
to go
into dos
or whatever and open the install file but I don't what it
is. Please
could
someone reply and tell me the name of the file.

Tom.


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RE: [newbie] System restarts itself

2002-01-27 Per discussione Robin

By the way, I just remembered something that you might want to check as
well while you are at it. Some models of BIOS has an option of shutting
off fans when the computer goes into stand by mode. And yes, it shuts
off CPU fan. I have heard of people toasted their CPU after they leave
their computer on over night in stand by.

Robin

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bill Davidson
 Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 8:28 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Robin
 Subject: Re: [newbie] System restarts itself
 
 
 On Sunday 27 January 2002 01:15 am, Robin wrote:
  I agree with Erylon, I had the same problem 2 month back 
 when I add in 
  a new piece of RAM. I had one piece of 256 and added 
 another piece of 
  256, then the machine started to reboot for no reason at all. The 
  interesting thing was that it only happened when load 
 started to get 
  heavy. After I replaced the RAM, I then have no problem at all.
 
  Robin
 
 Funny you should mention that, because I noticed that it 
 usually happens 
 when it's been sitting for a while. The first thing I try to do will 
 trigger it. Oh, well. I guess I'll start narrowing things 
 down. Thanks for 
 your reply.
 
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RE: [newbie] installing 8.1

2002-01-27 Per discussione FLYNN, Steve

I think this is one for Civileme - I have no idea now. My laptop is like
yours, only either a floppy or a CD rom but not both, except that my machine
allows me to boot off a CD rom. I just stick the CD rom in the drive, tell
the BIOS to boot off CDROM first and away it goes.

-Original Message-
From:   Tom Harris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Sunday, January 27, 2002 5:44 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:RE: [newbie] installing 8.1

i only have about 1gb which is nowhere near enough.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of FLYNN, Steve
Sent: 27 January 2002 17:33
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1


Hmmm - tricky. Have you got sfficient drive space to perform a
Hard-drive
install? i.e. copy the CD's onto HD and install from that, rather
than a CD.

-Original Message-
From:   Tom Harris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Sunday, January 27, 2002 5:24 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:RE: [newbie] installing 8.1

or rather the floppy drive has a cable, but the BIOS doesn't
recognise it!

tom.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom
Harris
Sent: 27 January 2002 17:22
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1


Extremely ancient! I have an Olivetti Echos P90s. I've
checked and
sadly
it's not possible to connect it via a cable :-(

Tom.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of FLYNN,
Steve
Sent: 27 January 2002 17:23
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1


Are you quite sure your BIOS won't allow a CDROM boot? It
must be a
truely
ancient laptop if it doesn't.

It's not a Dell Insprion is it?

What normally happens is that the CDROM can be connected top
the
parallel
port via a special cable which carries the signal and enough
power
for the
drive

-Original Message-
From:   Tom Harris
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Sunday, January 27, 2002 5:10 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:[newbie] installing 8.1

I just bought Mankrake 8.1 Standard edition but I am
having
trouble
installing.  The problem is that my laptop as a
space for a
floppy
drive and
CD-ROM drive however I can only have one in at once
at my
BIOS won't
allow
me to boot from a CD. Because I cannot use both
floppy and
CD at
once I
can't use a boot disk. The only workaround I can
think of is
to go
into dos
or whatever and open the install file but I don't
what it
is. Please
could
someone reply and tell me the name of the file.

Tom.


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RE: [newbie] installing 8.1

2002-01-27 Per discussione Robin

According to Linux-on-laptops, it is possible. Here is how

To install Linux from at CD-Rom, you need the cable that comes with the
computer to attach the floppy drive to the parallel port. The procedure
is as follows. Turn the computer off. Place the CD drive in the bay, and
connect the floppy drive to the parallel port with the cable. Fasten the
screws firmly. Now turn the machine on and press F2 to enter the setup.
Find the configuration menu for integrated peripherals and change the
mode of the parallel port to FDD mode. Initially it will probably be
Uni-directional or Bi-directional. Save and exit the setup, and when
the system boots, the now external floppy drive will be A:. From this
point on your have a normal system with both floppy and CD-ROM drive and
you can install as usual. 

If you want more information, here is the link
http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/olivetti.html

Hmmm, just a side note, judging from your model number, I am guessing
it's Pentium 90, are you sure you want to put 8.1 on it? 8.1 does take
quite a bit of resource to run it smoothly.


Robin

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of FLYNN, Steve
 Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 9:33 AM
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1
 
 
 Hmmm - tricky. Have you got sfficient drive space to perform 
 a Hard-drive install? i.e. copy the CD's onto HD and install 
 from that, rather than a CD.
 
   -Original Message-
   From:   Tom Harris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent:   Sunday, January 27, 2002 5:24 PM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject:RE: [newbie] installing 8.1
 
   or rather the floppy drive has a cable, but the BIOS 
 doesn't recognise it!
 
   tom.
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Harris
   Sent: 27 January 2002 17:22
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1
 
 
   Extremely ancient! I have an Olivetti Echos P90s. I've 
 checked and sadly
   it's not possible to connect it via a cable :-(
 
   Tom.
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of 
 FLYNN, Steve
   Sent: 27 January 2002 17:23
   To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
   Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1
 
 
   Are you quite sure your BIOS won't allow a CDROM boot? 
 It must be a truely
   ancient laptop if it doesn't.
 
   It's not a Dell Insprion is it?
 
   What normally happens is that the CDROM can be 
 connected top the parallel
   port via a special cable which carries the signal and 
 enough power for the
   drive
 
   -Original Message-
   From:   Tom Harris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent:   Sunday, January 27, 2002 5:10 PM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject:[newbie] installing 8.1
 
   I just bought Mankrake 8.1 Standard edition but 
 I am having trouble
   installing.  The problem is that my laptop as a 
 space for a floppy
   drive and
   CD-ROM drive however I can only have one in at 
 once at my BIOS won't
   allow
   me to boot from a CD. Because I cannot use both 
 floppy and
 CD at
   once I
   can't use a boot disk. The only workaround I 
 can think of is to go
   into dos
   or whatever and open the install file but I 
 don't what it
 is. Please
   could
   someone reply and tell me the name of the file.
 
   Tom.
 
 
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Re: [newbie] installing 8.1

2002-01-27 Per discussione Rick [Kitty5]

 i only have about 1gb which is nowhere near enough.

is there not a way of installing Linux manually a floppies worth at a time?
I would also be interested if there is as I am getting a old laptop soon
(read no cd at all!)


Rick

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RE: [newbie] installing 8.1

2002-01-27 Per discussione Robin

One floppy at a time? Don't know about that, but reminded me of
installing Win95 from some 50 or so floppies, I was up all night
swapping floppies, the light on that poor laptop's floppy drive must
have been on for 4 or 5 hours straight.

Robin

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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Rick [Kitty5]
 Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 10:23 AM
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 Subject: Re: [newbie] installing 8.1
 
 
  i only have about 1gb which is nowhere near enough.
 
 is there not a way of installing Linux manually a floppies 
 worth at a time? I would also be interested if there is as I 
 am getting a old laptop soon (read no cd at all!)
 
 
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RE: [newbie] installing 8.1

2002-01-27 Per discussione Tom Harris

that kind of worked. i got to the main menu screen, pressed enter and then
just got a blank screen with Mandrake Linux 8.1 at the top. please help!

tom.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robin
Sent: 27 January 2002 18:25
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1


According to Linux-on-laptops, it is possible. Here is how

To install Linux from at CD-Rom, you need the cable that comes with the
computer to attach the floppy drive to the parallel port. The procedure
is as follows. Turn the computer off. Place the CD drive in the bay, and
connect the floppy drive to the parallel port with the cable. Fasten the
screws firmly. Now turn the machine on and press F2 to enter the setup.
Find the configuration menu for integrated peripherals and change the
mode of the parallel port to FDD mode. Initially it will probably be
Uni-directional or Bi-directional. Save and exit the setup, and when
the system boots, the now external floppy drive will be A:. From this
point on your have a normal system with both floppy and CD-ROM drive and
you can install as usual.

If you want more information, here is the link
http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/olivetti.html

Hmmm, just a side note, judging from your model number, I am guessing
it's Pentium 90, are you sure you want to put 8.1 on it? 8.1 does take
quite a bit of resource to run it smoothly.


Robin

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of FLYNN, Steve
 Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 9:33 AM
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1


 Hmmm - tricky. Have you got sfficient drive space to perform
 a Hard-drive install? i.e. copy the CD's onto HD and install
 from that, rather than a CD.

   -Original Message-
   From:   Tom Harris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent:   Sunday, January 27, 2002 5:24 PM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject:RE: [newbie] installing 8.1

   or rather the floppy drive has a cable, but the BIOS
 doesn't recognise it!

   tom.

   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Harris
   Sent: 27 January 2002 17:22
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1


   Extremely ancient! I have an Olivetti Echos P90s. I've
 checked and sadly
   it's not possible to connect it via a cable :-(

   Tom.

   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 FLYNN, Steve
   Sent: 27 January 2002 17:23
   To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
   Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1


   Are you quite sure your BIOS won't allow a CDROM boot?
 It must be a truely
   ancient laptop if it doesn't.

   It's not a Dell Insprion is it?

   What normally happens is that the CDROM can be
 connected top the parallel
   port via a special cable which carries the signal and
 enough power for the
   drive

   -Original Message-
   From:   Tom Harris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent:   Sunday, January 27, 2002 5:10 PM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject:[newbie] installing 8.1

   I just bought Mankrake 8.1 Standard edition but
 I am having trouble
   installing.  The problem is that my laptop as a
 space for a floppy
   drive and
   CD-ROM drive however I can only have one in at
 once at my BIOS won't
   allow
   me to boot from a CD. Because I cannot use both
 floppy and
 CD at
   once I
   can't use a boot disk. The only workaround I
 can think of is to go
   into dos
   or whatever and open the install file but I
 don't what it
 is. Please
   could
   someone reply and tell me the name of the file.

   Tom.


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Re: [newbie] kde startup sound

2002-01-27 Per discussione Harry Ellis

Jason, I changed the permissions in pics to include execute
as well. Not saying I should have but it seemed to do the
trick. I think I put an x in every box I could find as a
matter of fact. (Not running 8.1 now. Can't check.)
Would like to hear what they say on the KDE newsgroup.

Good luck, Harry

- Original Message -
From: Jason Jesso [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] kde startup sound


 Looks like all permissions are fine to me. I still don't
see anything in
 kmix (just a grey window).

 Only one person has replied so I am assuming very few
people have had
 this problem. (why me?)

 I will take this to a kde mail list and get back to this
list in case
 someone else has this problem.

 [jason@cahill pics]$ ls -l /usr/bin/kmix
 -rwxr-xr-x1 root root   134524 Dec  6 10:25
/usr/bin/kmix*

 [jason@cahill pics]$ pwd
 /usr/share/apps/kmix/pics
 [jason@cahill pics]$ ls -l
 total 52
 -rw-r--r--1 root root  461 Jun  5  2000
kmixdocked.png
 -rw-r--r--1 root root  323 Jun  5  2000
mix_audio.png
 -rw-r--r--1 root root  334 Jun  5  2000
mix_bass.png
 -rw-r--r--1 root root  489 Jun  5  2000
mix_cd.png
 -rw-r--r--1 root root  331 Jun  5  2000
mix_ext.png
 -rw-r--r--1 root root  350 Jun  5  2000
 mix_microphone.png
 -rw-r--r--1 root root  337 Jun  5  2000
mix_midi.png
 -rw-r--r--1 root root  344 Jun  5  2000
mix_recmon.png
 -rw-r--r--1 root root  265 Jul 20  2000
mix_surround.png
 -rw-r--r--1 root root  350 Jun  5  2000
mix_treble.png
 -rw-r--r--1 root root  340 Jun  5  2000
mix_unknown.png
 -rw-r--r--1 root root  164 Jul 20  2000
mix_video.png
 -rw-r--r--1 root root  323 Jun  5  2000
mix_volume.png
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RE: [newbie] installing 8.1

2002-01-27 Per discussione Robin

Try text mode and see what happens

Robin

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tom Harris
 Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 10:32 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1
 
 
 that kind of worked. i got to the main menu screen, pressed 
 enter and then just got a blank screen with Mandrake Linux 
 8.1 at the top. please help!
 
 tom.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robin
 Sent: 27 January 2002 18:25
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1
 
 
 According to Linux-on-laptops, it is possible. Here is how
 
 To install Linux from at CD-Rom, you need the cable that 
 comes with the computer to attach the floppy drive to the 
 parallel port. The procedure is as follows. Turn the computer 
 off. Place the CD drive in the bay, and connect the floppy 
 drive to the parallel port with the cable. Fasten the screws 
 firmly. Now turn the machine on and press F2 to enter the 
 setup. Find the configuration menu for integrated peripherals 
 and change the mode of the parallel port to FDD mode. 
 Initially it will probably be Uni-directional or 
 Bi-directional. Save and exit the setup, and when the 
 system boots, the now external floppy drive will be A:. From 
 this point on your have a normal system with both floppy and 
 CD-ROM drive and you can install as usual.
 
 If you want more information, here is the link 
 http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/olivetti.html
 
 Hmmm, just a side note, judging from your model number, I am 
 guessing it's Pentium 90, are you sure you want to put 8.1 on 
 it? 8.1 does take quite a bit of resource to run it smoothly.
 
 
 Robin
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of FLYNN, Steve
  Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 9:33 AM
  To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
  Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1
 
 
  Hmmm - tricky. Have you got sfficient drive space to perform a 
  Hard-drive install? i.e. copy the CD's onto HD and install 
 from that, 
  rather than a CD.
 
  -Original Message-
  From:   Tom Harris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent:   Sunday, January 27, 2002 5:24 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject:RE: [newbie] installing 8.1
 
  or rather the floppy drive has a cable, but the BIOS
  doesn't recognise it!
 
  tom.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Harris
  Sent: 27 January 2002 17:22
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1
 
 
  Extremely ancient! I have an Olivetti Echos P90s. I've 
 checked and 
  sadly
  it's not possible to connect it via a cable :-(
 
  Tom.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
  FLYNN, Steve
  Sent: 27 January 2002 17:23
  To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
  Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1
 
 
  Are you quite sure your BIOS won't allow a CDROM boot?
  It must be a truely
  ancient laptop if it doesn't.
 
  It's not a Dell Insprion is it?
 
  What normally happens is that the CDROM can be
  connected top the parallel
  port via a special cable which carries the signal and
  enough power for the
  drive
 
  -Original Message-
  From:   Tom Harris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent:   Sunday, January 27, 2002 5:10 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject:[newbie] installing 8.1
 
  I just bought Mankrake 8.1 Standard edition but
  I am having trouble
  installing.  The problem is that my laptop as a
  space for a floppy
  drive and
  CD-ROM drive however I can only have one in at
  once at my BIOS won't
  allow
  me to boot from a CD. Because I cannot use both
  floppy and
  CD at
  once I
  can't use a boot disk. The only workaround I
  can think of is to go
  into dos
  or whatever and open the install file but I
  don't what it
  is. Please
  could
  someone reply and tell me the name of the file.
 
  Tom.
 
 
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RE: [newbie] installing 8.1

2002-01-27 Per discussione FLYNN, Steve

Didn't you get a LILO: prompt on screen? If so, try typing Linux, or just
hitting enter again.

If your machine hung, then I suspect you might be trying to install a 586
compiled distribution on something which isn't quite a 586! If you are
desperate, I can burn you a copy of mandrake 6.5 which I think would install
onto a 486 based machine...


 -Original Message-
 From: Tom Harris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 6:32 PM
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  RE: [newbie] installing 8.1
 
 that kind of worked. i got to the main menu screen, pressed enter and then
 just got a blank screen with Mandrake Linux 8.1 at the top. please help!
 
 tom.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robin
 Sent: 27 January 2002 18:25
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1
 
 
 According to Linux-on-laptops, it is possible. Here is how
 
 To install Linux from at CD-Rom, you need the cable that comes with the
 computer to attach the floppy drive to the parallel port. The procedure
 is as follows. Turn the computer off. Place the CD drive in the bay, and
 connect the floppy drive to the parallel port with the cable. Fasten the
 screws firmly. Now turn the machine on and press F2 to enter the setup.
 Find the configuration menu for integrated peripherals and change the
 mode of the parallel port to FDD mode. Initially it will probably be
 Uni-directional or Bi-directional. Save and exit the setup, and when
 the system boots, the now external floppy drive will be A:. From this
 point on your have a normal system with both floppy and CD-ROM drive and
 you can install as usual.
 
 If you want more information, here is the link
 http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/olivetti.html
 
 Hmmm, just a side note, judging from your model number, I am guessing
 it's Pentium 90, are you sure you want to put 8.1 on it? 8.1 does take
 quite a bit of resource to run it smoothly.
 
 
 Robin
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of FLYNN, Steve
  Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 9:33 AM
  To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
  Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1
 
 
  Hmmm - tricky. Have you got sfficient drive space to perform
  a Hard-drive install? i.e. copy the CD's onto HD and install
  from that, rather than a CD.
 
  -Original Message-
  From:   Tom Harris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent:   Sunday, January 27, 2002 5:24 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject:RE: [newbie] installing 8.1
 
  or rather the floppy drive has a cable, but the BIOS
  doesn't recognise it!
 
  tom.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Harris
  Sent: 27 January 2002 17:22
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1
 
 
  Extremely ancient! I have an Olivetti Echos P90s. I've
  checked and sadly
  it's not possible to connect it via a cable :-(
 
  Tom.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
  FLYNN, Steve
  Sent: 27 January 2002 17:23
  To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
  Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1
 
 
  Are you quite sure your BIOS won't allow a CDROM boot?
  It must be a truely
  ancient laptop if it doesn't.
 
  It's not a Dell Insprion is it?
 
  What normally happens is that the CDROM can be
  connected top the parallel
  port via a special cable which carries the signal and
  enough power for the
  drive
 
  -Original Message-
  From:   Tom Harris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent:   Sunday, January 27, 2002 5:10 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject:[newbie] installing 8.1
 
  I just bought Mankrake 8.1 Standard edition but
  I am having trouble
  installing.  The problem is that my laptop as a
  space for a floppy
  drive and
  CD-ROM drive however I can only have one in at
  once at my BIOS won't
  allow
  me to boot from a CD. Because I cannot use both
  floppy and
  CD at
  once I
  can't use a boot disk. The only workaround I
  can think of is to go
  into dos
  or whatever and open the install file but I
  don't what it
  is. Please
  could
  someone reply and tell me the name of the file.
 
  Tom.
 
 
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Re: [newbie] CD burning setup

2002-01-27 Per discussione Ralph Slooten

Hi there Richard,

Firstly thanks for using the correct list address ;-) Secondly, to get to
your problem...

Umm, this may be just a shot in the dark, however are you sure your writer
IS supported? I see similiar ones like the PX-W8220 on
http://www.fokus.gmd.de/research/cc/glone/employees/joerg.schilling/private/cdwriters-1.11.html
just your one isn't there.

If you are using LM 8 or 8.1 you would have to add the group of cdwriters
to authorised users, however indeed as root this should not make any
difference. The fact that scanbus detects your cd-writer says nothing of
whether it's supported or not. Give the page a look, maybe you will see
something I haven't.

Good luck,
Ralph



On Sun, 27 Jan 2002, RichardA wrote:

 Chris

 I get this:

 Cdrecord 1.10 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2001 Jörg Schilling
 Linux sg driver version: 3.1.20
 Using libscg version 'schily-0.5'
 scsibus0:
 0,0,0 0) 'PLEXTOR ' 'CD-R   PX-W8432T' '1.07' Removable CD-ROM
 0,1,0 1) *
 0,2,0 2) *
 0,3,0 3) *
 0,4,0 4) *
 0,5,0 5) *
 0,6,0 6) *
 0,7,0 7) *

 My CDR is indeed the master on the second IDE channel.
 In GCombust, it looks at scsi 0,0,0 and, even as root, says 'wrong scsi
 settings or no permission to device' as stated.

 Am I right in thinking that root cannot have permission problems, so this is
 about scsi settings?

 Richard

 Chris Keelan, Saturday 26 January 2002 22:36:
  On Sat, 26 Jan 2002 22:27:31 +, RichardA [EMAIL PROTECTED] spilled
  a
 
  can of spare bits all over the network, which arranged themselves like so:
   I've done mostly as suggested. As mentioned in my original post, 'ls -l
   /dev/cdrom' gave 'No such file or directory', so I did this:
   # ln /dev/hdc /dev/cdrom
   # ln /dev/hdd /dev/cdrom2
  
   Edited /etc/modules and /etc/rc.d/rc.local.
   /etc/lilo.conf already had 'append= hdc=ide-scsi devfs=mount so I left
   it.
  
   Now, running GCombust as root, when I do 'check scsi settings' I get
   'cdrecord failed to recognise selected drive (wrong scsi settings or no
   permission to device)!'
   How can root not have rights to a device?
   How can I get such a range of errors? (I left out all the problems I have
 
  had  logging in this evening, kde complaining about failing to set up
  interprocess  communication, dcop server not running, mouse services and
  named failing on  closedown, etc.).
 
   Help!
 
  Richard,
 
  2 things I'm noticing:
 
  1. If you're using an IDE-SCSI (most CDRW's) it MUST be on the master
  device on a channel. Mine's installed on IDE-2 as the primary device.
 
  2. As root, do:
 
  # cdrecord --scanbus
 
  Here's my output:
 
  Cdrecord 1.10 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2001 Jörg
  Schilling Linux sg driver version: 3.1.20
  Using libscg version 'schily-0.5'
  scsibus0:
  0,0,0 0) 'ATAPI   ' 'CD-R/RW CRW6206A' '1.6A' Removable CD-ROM
  0,1,0 1) *
  0,2,0 2) *
  0,3,0 3) *
  0,4,0 4) *
  0,5,0 5) *
  0,6,0 6) *
  0,7,0 7) *
 
  Notice that my burner is /dev/scd0 NOT /dev/hdb !
 
  I'm not sure where you need to make those changes in gcombust but make
  sure that it's looking for a burner on the (emulated) SCSI bus, not on
  the IDE devices bus (i.e. /dev/scd0).
 
  HTH
 
  - Chris







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[newbie] copying files from cd

2002-01-27 Per discussione thedoghouse

Hi. I am really new to the Linux experience and just had a basic 
question. When I try to copy a file from a cd to my hard drive it 
copies over fine but shows up as a file with 0 bytes, and can not be 
opened. Wondering what I am doing wrong. -Jeff



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RE: [newbie] copying files from cd

2002-01-27 Per discussione FLYNN, Steve

You aren't copying it correctly!

You should be doing something like 'cp /mnt/cdrom/afile.txt ~/afile.txt'.


Are you doing this copy from the command line or the desktop.




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 Subject:  [newbie] copying files from cd
 
 Hi. I am really new to the Linux experience and just had a basic 
 question. When I try to copy a file from a cd to my hard drive it 
 copies over fine but shows up as a file with 0 bytes, and can not be 
 opened. Wondering what I am doing wrong. -Jeff
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Re: [newbie] System restarts itself

2002-01-27 Per discussione Bill Davidson

I didn't know that. That's not very good. I'll have to check up on that. 
Although I don't use standby as I don't know how to use the power 
management tools in linux. That's on my to-do list.

On Sunday 27 January 2002 12:59 pm, Robin wrote:
 By the way, I just remembered something that you might want to check as
 well while you are at it. Some models of BIOS has an option of shutting
 off fans when the computer goes into stand by mode. And yes, it shuts
 off CPU fan. I have heard of people toasted their CPU after they leave
 their computer on over night in stand by.

 Robin

  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bill Davidson
  Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 8:28 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Robin
  Subject: Re: [newbie] System restarts itself
 
  On Sunday 27 January 2002 01:15 am, Robin wrote:
   I agree with Erylon, I had the same problem 2 month back
 
  when I add in
 
   a new piece of RAM. I had one piece of 256 and added
 
  another piece of
 
   256, then the machine started to reboot for no reason at all. The
   interesting thing was that it only happened when load
 
  started to get
 
   heavy. After I replaced the RAM, I then have no problem at all.
  
   Robin
 
  Funny you should mention that, because I noticed that it
  usually happens
  when it's been sitting for a while. The first thing I try to do will
  trigger it. Oh, well. I guess I'll start narrowing things
  down. Thanks for
  your reply.
 
  Bill Davidson

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Re: [newbie] CD burning setup

2002-01-27 Per discussione Chris Keelan

On Sun, 27 Jan 2002 14:23:45 +, RichardA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
spilled a can of spare bits all over the network, which arranged
themselves like so:

 Am I right in thinking that root cannot have permission problems, so this is
 about scsi settings?

Well, that's a definite maybe.

I'd like to see if we can get some more troubleshooting info, so let's
start at the hardware and work our way up.

cdrecord can find your CDRW. That suggests to me that it's been
installed properly.

Try making a test iso in a temp directory. I'm going to pretend you've copied
file1, file2, file3 into /temp (a total of say, 25Mb).

As root, 

# mkiso -r -J /temp/test.iso /temp/file*

Then do:

# cdrecord -v dev=0,0,0 speed=2 -dummy /temp/test.iso

This is a dummy burn and won't actually toast a CDR. Watch the debug output
carefully (anyone know how to pipe this to a file?)

If that works, then both your CDRW and the underlying cd-burning
programs are configured correctly. This, then may be a problem with
gcombust which I won't be able to help you with, since I burn
everything via command line. If it doesn't work, let us know what errors
occur.

- C





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[newbie] For Help

2002-01-27 Per discussione Jamil

Hello,

I am Jamil. I am a novice user of Linux Mandrake 8.0 and i am facing
difficulties wihin it. can u please help me by letting me know that how
can i get inti a server ( e.g : latcs5.cs.latrobe.edu.au) from the
Terminal. As it will help me to do my studies. I want to get in this
server and execute linux command. I tried a lot, but i failed. I would
be very greateful if u let me khow. Thank u.
jamil



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RE: [newbie] installing 8.1

2002-01-27 Per discussione Tom Harris

i think it is in text mode anyway.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robin
Sent: 27 January 2002 18:54
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1


Try text mode and see what happens

Robin

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tom Harris
 Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 10:32 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1
 
 
 that kind of worked. i got to the main menu screen, pressed 
 enter and then just got a blank screen with Mandrake Linux 
 8.1 at the top. please help!
 
 tom.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robin
 Sent: 27 January 2002 18:25
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1
 
 
 According to Linux-on-laptops, it is possible. Here is how
 
 To install Linux from at CD-Rom, you need the cable that 
 comes with the computer to attach the floppy drive to the 
 parallel port. The procedure is as follows. Turn the computer 
 off. Place the CD drive in the bay, and connect the floppy 
 drive to the parallel port with the cable. Fasten the screws 
 firmly. Now turn the machine on and press F2 to enter the 
 setup. Find the configuration menu for integrated peripherals 
 and change the mode of the parallel port to FDD mode. 
 Initially it will probably be Uni-directional or 
 Bi-directional. Save and exit the setup, and when the 
 system boots, the now external floppy drive will be A:. From 
 this point on your have a normal system with both floppy and 
 CD-ROM drive and you can install as usual.
 
 If you want more information, here is the link 
 http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/olivetti.html
 
 Hmmm, just a side note, judging from your model number, I am 
 guessing it's Pentium 90, are you sure you want to put 8.1 on 
 it? 8.1 does take quite a bit of resource to run it smoothly.
 
 
 Robin
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of FLYNN, Steve
  Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 9:33 AM
  To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
  Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1
 
 
  Hmmm - tricky. Have you got sfficient drive space to perform a 
  Hard-drive install? i.e. copy the CD's onto HD and install 
 from that, 
  rather than a CD.
 
  -Original Message-
  From:   Tom Harris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent:   Sunday, January 27, 2002 5:24 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject:RE: [newbie] installing 8.1
 
  or rather the floppy drive has a cable, but the BIOS
  doesn't recognise it!
 
  tom.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Harris
  Sent: 27 January 2002 17:22
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1
 
 
  Extremely ancient! I have an Olivetti Echos P90s. I've 
 checked and 
  sadly
  it's not possible to connect it via a cable :-(
 
  Tom.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
  FLYNN, Steve
  Sent: 27 January 2002 17:23
  To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
  Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1
 
 
  Are you quite sure your BIOS won't allow a CDROM boot?
  It must be a truely
  ancient laptop if it doesn't.
 
  It's not a Dell Insprion is it?
 
  What normally happens is that the CDROM can be
  connected top the parallel
  port via a special cable which carries the signal and
  enough power for the
  drive
 
  -Original Message-
  From:   Tom Harris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent:   Sunday, January 27, 2002 5:10 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject:[newbie] installing 8.1
 
  I just bought Mankrake 8.1 Standard edition but
  I am having trouble
  installing.  The problem is that my laptop as a
  space for a floppy
  drive and
  CD-ROM drive however I can only have one in at
  once at my BIOS won't
  allow
  me to boot from a CD. Because I cannot use both
  floppy and
  CD at
  once I
  can't use a boot disk. The only workaround I
  can think of is to go
  into dos
  or whatever and open the install file but I
  don't what it
  is. Please
  could
  someone reply and tell me the name of the file.
 
  Tom.
 
 
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RE: [newbie] installing 8.1

2002-01-27 Per discussione Tom Harris

h... i don't know what machine i have got, how do i find out?  i would
rather not install previous versions because i got this one packaged in a
shop which cost £30!

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of FLYNN, Steve
Sent: 27 January 2002 18:51
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1


Didn't you get a LILO: prompt on screen? If so, try typing Linux, or just
hitting enter again.

If your machine hung, then I suspect you might be trying to install a 586
compiled distribution on something which isn't quite a 586! If you are
desperate, I can burn you a copy of mandrake 6.5 which I think would install
onto a 486 based machine...


 -Original Message-
 From: Tom Harris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 6:32 PM
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  RE: [newbie] installing 8.1

 that kind of worked. i got to the main menu screen, pressed enter and then
 just got a blank screen with Mandrake Linux 8.1 at the top. please help!

 tom.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robin
 Sent: 27 January 2002 18:25
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1


 According to Linux-on-laptops, it is possible. Here is how

 To install Linux from at CD-Rom, you need the cable that comes with the
 computer to attach the floppy drive to the parallel port. The procedure
 is as follows. Turn the computer off. Place the CD drive in the bay, and
 connect the floppy drive to the parallel port with the cable. Fasten the
 screws firmly. Now turn the machine on and press F2 to enter the setup.
 Find the configuration menu for integrated peripherals and change the
 mode of the parallel port to FDD mode. Initially it will probably be
 Uni-directional or Bi-directional. Save and exit the setup, and when
 the system boots, the now external floppy drive will be A:. From this
 point on your have a normal system with both floppy and CD-ROM drive and
 you can install as usual.

 If you want more information, here is the link
 http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/olivetti.html

 Hmmm, just a side note, judging from your model number, I am guessing
 it's Pentium 90, are you sure you want to put 8.1 on it? 8.1 does take
 quite a bit of resource to run it smoothly.


 Robin

  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of FLYNN, Steve
  Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 9:33 AM
  To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
  Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1
 
 
  Hmmm - tricky. Have you got sfficient drive space to perform
  a Hard-drive install? i.e. copy the CD's onto HD and install
  from that, rather than a CD.
 
  -Original Message-
  From:   Tom Harris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent:   Sunday, January 27, 2002 5:24 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject:RE: [newbie] installing 8.1
 
  or rather the floppy drive has a cable, but the BIOS
  doesn't recognise it!
 
  tom.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Harris
  Sent: 27 January 2002 17:22
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1
 
 
  Extremely ancient! I have an Olivetti Echos P90s. I've
  checked and sadly
  it's not possible to connect it via a cable :-(
 
  Tom.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
  FLYNN, Steve
  Sent: 27 January 2002 17:23
  To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
  Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1
 
 
  Are you quite sure your BIOS won't allow a CDROM boot?
  It must be a truely
  ancient laptop if it doesn't.
 
  It's not a Dell Insprion is it?
 
  What normally happens is that the CDROM can be
  connected top the parallel
  port via a special cable which carries the signal and
  enough power for the
  drive
 
  -Original Message-
  From:   Tom Harris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent:   Sunday, January 27, 2002 5:10 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject:[newbie] installing 8.1
 
  I just bought Mankrake 8.1 Standard edition but
  I am having trouble
  installing.  The problem is that my laptop as a
  space for a floppy
  drive and
  CD-ROM drive however I can only have one in at
  once at my BIOS won't
  allow
  me to boot from a CD. Because I cannot use both
  floppy and
  CD at
  once I
  can't use a boot disk. The only workaround I
  can think of is to go
  into dos
  or whatever and open the install file but I
  don't what it
  is. Please
  could
  someone reply and tell me the name of the file.
 
  Tom.
 
 
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Re: [newbie] For Help

2002-01-27 Per discussione Onur Kucuk


J Hello,

J I am Jamil. I am a novice user of Linux Mandrake 8.0 and i am facing
J difficulties wihin it. can u please help me by letting me know that how
J can i get inti a server ( e.g : latcs5.cs.latrobe.edu.au) from the
J Terminal. As it will help me to do my studies. I want to get in this
J server and execute linux command. I tried a lot, but i failed. I would
J be very greateful if u let me khow. Thank u.
J jamil


 The server name you gave, seems to have both ssh and telnet service
 available.

 In your linux system, open a terminal window in x-windows, (or in the console)

 - telnet

  telnet  the_name_of_the_server

  and you will be able to login.

 - ssh

   ssh -l your_user_name  the_name_of_the_server

 - for telnet, telnet client, for ssh, openssh must be installed in
   your system. (you can find them in your mdk cd's)


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RE: [newbie] installing 8.1

2002-01-27 Per discussione FLYNN, Steve

Upon boot-up, when the BIOS messages are being displayed, there are normally
messages informing you of the CPU speed, the type of processor detect, the
amount of detect RAM and so forth. What type of processor is detected? A
Pentium II hopefully.

Also, how much ram is installed in this laptop - you really want 32+ meg,
and ideally 64 or 128 if you wish to use some of the prettier window
managers.

I'm afraid we're going to be telling you that you should take the package
back to the shop and obtain a refund! :(

-Original Message-
From:   Tom Harris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Sunday, January 27, 2002 8:20 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:RE: [newbie] installing 8.1

h... i don't know what machine i have got, how do i find out?  i
would
rather not install previous versions because i got this one packaged
in a
shop which cost £30!

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of FLYNN, Steve
Sent: 27 January 2002 18:51
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1


Didn't you get a LILO: prompt on screen? If so, try typing Linux, or
just
hitting enter again.

If your machine hung, then I suspect you might be trying to install
a 586
compiled distribution on something which isn't quite a 586! If you
are
desperate, I can burn you a copy of mandrake 6.5 which I think would
install
onto a 486 based machine...


 -Original Message-
 From: Tom Harris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 6:32 PM
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  RE: [newbie] installing 8.1

 that kind of worked. i got to the main menu screen, pressed enter
and then
 just got a blank screen with Mandrake Linux 8.1 at the top.
please help!

 tom.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robin
 Sent: 27 January 2002 18:25
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1


 According to Linux-on-laptops, it is possible. Here is how

 To install Linux from at CD-Rom, you need the cable that comes
with the
 computer to attach the floppy drive to the parallel port. The
procedure
 is as follows. Turn the computer off. Place the CD drive in the
bay, and
 connect the floppy drive to the parallel port with the cable.
Fasten the
 screws firmly. Now turn the machine on and press F2 to enter the
setup.
 Find the configuration menu for integrated peripherals and change
the
 mode of the parallel port to FDD mode. Initially it will probably
be
 Uni-directional or Bi-directional. Save and exit the setup,
and when
 the system boots, the now external floppy drive will be A:. From
this
 point on your have a normal system with both floppy and CD-ROM
drive and
 you can install as usual.

 If you want more information, here is the link
 http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/olivetti.html

 Hmmm, just a side note, judging from your model number, I am
guessing
 it's Pentium 90, are you sure you want to put 8.1 on it? 8.1 does
take
 quite a bit of resource to run it smoothly.


 Robin

  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of FLYNN,
Steve
  Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 9:33 AM
  To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
  Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1
 
 
  Hmmm - tricky. Have you got sfficient drive space to perform
  a Hard-drive install? i.e. copy the CD's onto HD and install
  from that, rather than a CD.
 
  -Original Message-
  From:   Tom Harris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent:   Sunday, January 27, 2002 5:24 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject:RE: [newbie] installing 8.1
 
  or rather the floppy drive has a cable, but the BIOS
  doesn't recognise it!
 
  tom.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom
Harris
  Sent: 27 January 2002 17:22
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1
 
 
  Extremely ancient! I have an Olivetti Echos P90s. I've
  checked and sadly
  it's not possible to connect it via a cable :-(
 
  Tom.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

Re: [newbie] For Help

2002-01-27 Per discussione David Stevenson

You need some client utils installed. The safest way would be to use SSH if yur server 
will accept it, failing that the really insecure way would be to use Telnet (the 
passwords are sent plain text across the web). Anyway, whatever you decide, open the 
software manager and search for either 'ssh' or 'telnet' with 'client' in the name. 
Select which one you want and install it.

Whichever one you decided, open a new shell window, and enter 'ssh 
latcs5.cs.latrobe.edu.au -l userid' or 'telnet latcs5.cs.latrobe.edu.au -l userid'. 
The userid is the remote userid you have on the server. You will be asked to 
authenticate yourself.

HTH
Dave,

On Sun, 10 Feb 2002 07:12:37 -0500
Jamil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I am Jamil. I am a novice user of Linux Mandrake 8.0 and i am facing
 difficulties wihin it. can u please help me by letting me know that how
 can i get inti a server ( e.g : latcs5.cs.latrobe.edu.au) from the
 Terminal. As it will help me to do my studies. I want to get in this
 server and execute linux command. I tried a lot, but i failed. I would
 be very greateful if u let me khow. Thank u.
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RE: [newbie] installing 8.1

2002-01-27 Per discussione Robin

I think you have a Pentium 90, check this page too see if it fit what
you have in hand http://www.seindal.dk/rene/linux/echos.php3

You mentioned that you hit Enter at the main menu, have you tried
F1?
Type test or vgalo at the prompt.

Just a thought, can you use boot disk and start install with the 2nd
disk?

Robin

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tom Harris
 Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 12:20 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1
 
 
 h... i don't know what machine i have got, how do i find 
 out?  i would rather not install previous versions because i 
 got this one packaged in a shop which cost £30!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of FLYNN, Steve
 Sent: 27 January 2002 18:51
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1
 
 
 Didn't you get a LILO: prompt on screen? If so, try typing 
 Linux, or just hitting enter again.
 
 If your machine hung, then I suspect you might be trying to 
 install a 586 compiled distribution on something which isn't 
 quite a 586! If you are desperate, I can burn you a copy of 
 mandrake 6.5 which I think would install onto a 486 based machine...
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From:   Tom Harris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent:   Sunday, January 27, 2002 6:32 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject:RE: [newbie] installing 8.1
 
  that kind of worked. i got to the main menu screen, pressed 
 enter and 
  then just got a blank screen with Mandrake Linux 8.1 at the top. 
  please help!
 
  tom.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robin
  Sent: 27 January 2002 18:25
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1
 
 
  According to Linux-on-laptops, it is possible. Here is how
 
  To install Linux from at CD-Rom, you need the cable that comes with 
  the computer to attach the floppy drive to the parallel port. The 
  procedure is as follows. Turn the computer off. Place the 
 CD drive in 
  the bay, and connect the floppy drive to the parallel port with the 
  cable. Fasten the screws firmly. Now turn the machine on 
 and press F2 
  to enter the setup. Find the configuration menu for integrated 
  peripherals and change the mode of the parallel port to FDD mode. 
  Initially it will probably be Uni-directional or 
 Bi-directional. 
  Save and exit the setup, and when the system boots, the now 
 external 
  floppy drive will be A:. From this point on your have a 
 normal system 
  with both floppy and CD-ROM drive and you can install as usual.
 
  If you want more information, here is the link 
  http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/olivetti.html
 
  Hmmm, just a side note, judging from your model number, I 
 am guessing 
  it's Pentium 90, are you sure you want to put 8.1 on it? 
 8.1 does take 
  quite a bit of resource to run it smoothly.
 
 
  Robin
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of FLYNN, Steve
   Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 9:33 AM
   To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
   Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1
  
  
   Hmmm - tricky. Have you got sfficient drive space to perform a 
   Hard-drive install? i.e. copy the CD's onto HD and install from 
   that, rather than a CD.
  
 -Original Message-
 From:   Tom Harris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent:   Sunday, January 27, 2002 5:24 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:RE: [newbie] installing 8.1
  
 or rather the floppy drive has a cable, but the BIOS doesn't 
   recognise it!
  
 tom.
  
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Harris
 Sent: 27 January 2002 17:22
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1
  
  
 Extremely ancient! I have an Olivetti Echos P90s. I've 
 checked and 
   sadly
 it's not possible to connect it via a cable :-(
  
 Tom.
  
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of 
 FLYNN, Steve
 Sent: 27 January 2002 17:23
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1
  
  
 Are you quite sure your BIOS won't allow a CDROM boot?
   It must be a truely
 ancient laptop if it doesn't.
  
 It's not a Dell Insprion is it?
  
 What normally happens is that the CDROM can be
   connected top the parallel
 port via a special cable which carries the signal and
   enough power for the
 drive
  
 -Original Message-
 From:   Tom Harris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent:   Sunday, January 27, 2002 5:10 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:[newbie] installing 8.1
  
 I just bought Mankrake 8.1 Standard edition but
   I am having trouble
 

[newbie] KDE 2.2.2

2002-01-27 Per discussione Joan Tur

Hallo!

I've used rpmdrake to upgrade to Kde 2.2.2, and i've been asked to force 
installation of libpng3 (conflict with gdk-pixbuf).  I've choosen yes but 
after having restarted kde didn't show most of its icons and gave some 
errors...

Any idea?  I suppose it's better to wait until kde 3 final...

Thanks!  ;)
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Re: [newbie] no sound with xawtv

2002-01-27 Per discussione chuck

Thanks for the advice.  That worked like a charm.

On Tue, 2002-01-22 at 13:24, Andris Maziks wrote:
 Hi,
 About bttv module, here is at least two important options , which should be 
 specified in /etc/modules.conf :
 card number un tuner type, where card number is number for your card and 
 tuner type also number for your tuner - these both numbers can be obtained 
 from CARDLIST file in kernel documentation video4linux/bttv section, here 
 also the sample modules.conf file and module options descriptions is 
 available.
 in my case card=37 and tuner type=5 ( I using Prolink Pixelview PlayTV Pro 
 bt878 chip with philips PAL tuner)
  in accordance with documentation of bttv 
 my modules.conf contains the following lines for bttv:
 
 alias char-major-81 videodev
 alias char-major-81-0 bttv
 options bttv card=37 tuner=5 radio=1
 options tuner type=5 debug=1
 
 I hope this will help
 
 BR
 
 Andris
 
  I have exactly the same problem as Chuck.  I have an AverMedia TV-Phone
  card with the BT848 chip.
 
  Can you be more specific about what the options should be, and in which
  file (/etc/modules.conf?), or can you mention a document that contains the
  details?
 
  Thanks,
  Kathy
 
  Andris Maziks wrote:
   Hi,
  
   Check out tuner type in tuner module options...
  
   BR,
  
   Andris
 
 
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RE: [newbie] copying files from cd

2002-01-27 Per discussione thedoghouse

I am doing everything from the desktop, I am way to new to try 
anything else. From Nautilus right click copy, go to a new 
directory, right click paste. files go in but 0 bytes. I changed from 
Gnome to Windowmaker and it worked fine. -Jeff


On 27 Jan 2002, you wrote:

 You aren't copying it correctly!
 
 You should be doing something like 'cp /mnt/cdrom/afile.txt
 ~/afile.txt'.
 
 
 Are you doing this copy from the command line or the desktop.
 
 
 
 
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  From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent:   Sunday, January 27, 2002 7:35 PM To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject:[newbie] copying files from cd
  
  Hi. I am really new to the Linux experience and just had a basic
  question. When I try to copy a file from a cd to my hard drive it
  copies over fine but shows up as a file with 0 bytes, and can not be
  opened. Wondering what I am doing wrong. -Jeff




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RE: [newbie] copying files from cd

2002-01-27 Per discussione FLYNN, Steve

I've never used Nautilus, so I can't comment, but what you are doing sounds
correct. or at least plausible.

No ida why it gives you an empty file though. Any Nautilus users who can
comment?

-Original Message-
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Sunday, January 27, 2002 9:26 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:RE: [newbie] copying files from cd

I am doing everything from the desktop, I am way to new to try 
anything else. From Nautilus right click copy, go to a new 
directory, right click paste. files go in but 0 bytes. I changed
from 
Gnome to Windowmaker and it worked fine. -Jeff


On 27 Jan 2002, you wrote:

 You aren't copying it correctly!
 
 You should be doing something like 'cp /mnt/cdrom/afile.txt
 ~/afile.txt'.
 
 
 Are you doing this copy from the command line or the desktop.
 
 
 
 
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[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent:   Sunday, January 27, 2002 7:35 PM To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject:[newbie] copying files from cd
  
  Hi. I am really new to the Linux experience and just had a basic
  question. When I try to copy a file from a cd to my hard drive
it
  copies over fine but shows up as a file with 0 bytes, and can
not be
  opened. Wondering what I am doing wrong. -Jeff

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RE: [newbie] copying files from cd

2002-01-27 Per discussione thedoghouse

Also works fine in KDE/Konqurer. -Jeff

On 27 Jan 2002, you wrote:

 I've never used Nautilus, so I can't comment, but what you are doing
 sounds correct. or at least plausible.
 
 No ida why it gives you an empty file though. Any Nautilus users who
 can comment?
 
  -Original Message-
  From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent:Sunday, January 27, 2002 9:26 PM
  To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [newbie] copying files from cd
 
  I am doing everything from the desktop, I am way to new to try 
  anything else. From Nautilus right click copy, go to a new 
  directory, right click paste. files go in but 0 bytes. I changed from
 
  Gnome to Windowmaker and it worked fine. -Jeff
 
 
  On 27 Jan 2002, you wrote:
 
   You aren't copying it correctly!
   
   You should be doing something like 'cp /mnt/cdrom/afile.txt
   ~/afile.txt'.
   
   
   Are you doing this copy from the command line or the desktop.
   
   
   
   
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Sent:Sunday, January 27, 2002 7:35 PM To:
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Subject: [newbie] copying files from cd

Hi. I am really new to the Linux experience and just had a basic
question. When I try to copy a file from a cd to my hard drive it
copies over fine but shows up as a file with 0 bytes, and can not
 be
opened. Wondering what I am doing wrong. -Jeff




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RE: [newbie] copying files from cd

2002-01-27 Per discussione FLYNN, Steve

Being perfectly honest, it's fairly easy from the command line and is worth
having a play with jsut to get yourself comfortable with using the CLI.

It's often easier from CLI, as you are fairly sure of getting some error
message back when there was a problem.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 10:49 PM
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  RE: [newbie] copying files from cd
 
 Also works fine in KDE/Konqurer. -Jeff
 
 On 27 Jan 2002, you wrote:
 
  I've never used Nautilus, so I can't comment, but what you are doing
  sounds correct. or at least plausible.
  
  No ida why it gives you an empty file though. Any Nautilus users who
  can comment?
  
   -Original Message-
   From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent:  Sunday, January 27, 2002 9:26 PM
   To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject:   RE: [newbie] copying files from cd
  
   I am doing everything from the desktop, I am way to new to try 
   anything else. From Nautilus right click copy, go to a new 
   directory, right click paste. files go in but 0 bytes. I changed from
  
   Gnome to Windowmaker and it worked fine. -Jeff
  
  
   On 27 Jan 2002, you wrote:
  
You aren't copying it correctly!

You should be doing something like 'cp /mnt/cdrom/afile.txt
~/afile.txt'.


Are you doing this copy from the command line or the desktop.




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 Sent:  Sunday, January 27, 2002 7:35 PM To:
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 copies over fine but shows up as a file with 0 bytes, and can not
  be
 opened. Wondering what I am doing wrong. -Jeff
 
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Re: [newbie] Book question.

2002-01-27 Per discussione Michel Clasquin

On Sunday 27 January 2002 14:58, Javier de Lázaro Redruello wrote:
 I´ve got a simple question for you, guys:

 Wich book should I read to beguin learning MDK Linux?

 I want to learn all those easy things as making short cuts, installing
 software, etc.

On your mdk cds is a package called RUTE. It installs a truly excellent 
(IMHO) introduction to linux in pdf format, which you can read with xpdf 
or the Adobe Acrobat reader. Don't expect to finish it in a few hours: it 
is pretty big. And no one has ever claimed that it is for dummies

You might have it installed already, in fact.  Check if the file 
/usr/share/doc/rute0.X.X/rute.pdf exists on your system 

Apart from that, the best way to learn almost anything to do with a 
computer is to switch it on and start playing with it. Make mistakes, 
figure out how to fix your mistakes, lurk the newsgroups, browse the linux 
websites, if you don't understand a command then immediately type man 
commandname, and it is amazing how you start picking up on the tips and 
tricks. I'll allow one exception to that rule: When you go and learn a new 
programming language, a book helps you to find out what the major commands 
are! But generally, books are overrated. 

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[newbie] cd-rw

2002-01-27 Per discussione thedoghouse

Hi. I am having trouble reading a cd-rw cd. This is a brand new 
installation of 8.1. I am trying to look at a cd that was created in 
windows. My Sony crx0811 seems to see cd-r but not cd-rw. It 
mounts but shows only two files: autorun.inf and udfrinst.exe. -Jeff



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[newbie] about network interfaces

2002-01-27 Per discussione Unixpad Y Asociados


hi

how  i do to tell to my linux box that the interface to use when it find
web pages is the ppp interface and not the eth0 interface


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[newbie] NTFS question

2002-01-27 Per discussione Mafiajoe3
hello. does anyone know of any program i can u use to resize my NTFS hard drive. it won't let me do it on the install. and i can't do it when i install windows cause it uses a recovery image.. so i'm lookin for something that will let me resize to make another partition that i could put linux on..


Re: [newbie] NTFS question

2002-01-27 Per discussione Pena Family



Partition Magic is one of the best known and most 
popular. I heard of a free one but do not recall it at this 
moment.


Re: [newbie] NTFS question

2002-01-27 Per discussione Mafiajoe3
i was thinkign of using a program like that.. but i'm trying to do this on a laptop. and the only way i have of re installing XP it i screw it up (again) is w/ the recovery disk. will those still work if i use some type of partition program.. 


Joe


[newbie] accessing cdrom causes segv

2002-01-27 Per discussione Mr S Ganesan

There is a possiblity of ur cdrom being an archaic type and the new kernel
does not support the same. Try to reload the os once again and then
$ mount /mnt/cdrom
then try and access the same.
Alternatively 
Search for the folder containing drivers for the CDrom drive and re
install the driver with the  and then 
inform me.
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Re: [newbie] NTFS question

2002-01-27 Per discussione Brian Parish

The recovery disks I've seen just wipe out everything and set the
machine up in an arbitrary predetermined way.  Therefore I would say
that it doesn't matter what you try - at worst you can put it back the
way it came.

Brian

On Mon, 2002-01-28 at 15:10, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 i was thinkign of using a program like that.. but i'm trying to do this on a 
 laptop. and the only way i have of re installing XP it i screw it up (again) 
 is w/ the recovery disk. will those still work if i use some type of 
 partition program..  
 
 
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[newbie] Running a shell script at boot

2002-01-27 Per discussione Brian Parish

I have written a shell script I would like to run as root at boot time. 
Where do I put the command to run it?

thanks
Brian






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Re: [newbie] Running a shell script at boot

2002-01-27 Per discussione Anuerin G. Diaz

On 28 Jan 2002 18:54:50 +1100
Brian Parish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have written a shell script I would like to run as root at boot time. 
 Where do I put the command to run it?
 
 thanks
 Brian
 

not sure but i think on the line just before the last in /etc/rc.local. lets wait for 
confirmation. ;-)

ciao!

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