Re: [newbie-it] firewall

2003-03-14 Per discussione Paride Desimone
At 09.42 20/03/02 +0100, you wrote:
On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, SkyHeart wrote:

 Ciao,
 vorrei configurare un firewall semplice, semplice (nn ho particolari 
esigenze..ma vorrei imparare) cosa mi consigliate? link? software?
 Grazie



Ciao,
io uso ipchains che piu' che un firewall e' un sistema  che permette di
filtrare i pacchetti.
E' molto interessante e si impara un mucchio di roba.
(Magari se interessa potrei postare un file di configurazione tipo)
Posta, posta pure. Preparati però poi ad essere subissato da moltissime 
domande, almeno da parte mia.
Se lo posti veramente un ringraziamento in anticipo.

Paride




Re: [newbie-it] Connessione satellitare

2003-03-14 Per discussione Paride Desimone

At 12.27 27/02/03 +0100, you wrote:
Ciao
a tutti,

Sto analizzando la possibilità
di connettere ad internet un computer veramente remoto(in una
missione in Africa) e di installargli Linux Mandrake. La missione
attualmente è dotata di una connessione dial-up lentissima (c'è un solo
server in tutta l'Etiopia ed è a 1200Km di distanza dalla missione).


Velocizzare questa connessione
porterebbe a tanti vantaggi per la trasmissione dati tra la missione e
una base logistica in Italia. Attualmente la quasi totalità della
trasmissione è..manuale. Ogni tanto qualcuno va là e
porta a casa, disegni, fotografie,ma la cosa non è molto
funzionale.

Da tempo sento parlare di
connessioni con modem satellitari, ma non ho mai avuto grosse info. Vi
volevo chiedere alcune cose:

- Chi produce questi
sistemi
- Compatibilità con
Linux
- Costi sia dei modem che delle
connessioni
- Esistono anche dei modelli
che lavorano in modalità bidirezionale (piuttosto che solo in
download)
- Aree geografiche
coperte
- Idee alternative al modem
satellitare
- .

Qualsiasi info può essermi
utile per provare a realizzare questo progetto che ora è solo in
embrione.

Un saluto a tutti
Enrico
Non voglio dire una cavolata, ma perchè non provi a chiedere a tiscali
che ha il servizio TISCALI SAT? E' un impianto bidirezionale, potresti,
sempre se coperto dal servizio, impostare poi una vpn tra i due computer
ed il gioco DOVREBBE (il condizionale è d'obbligo) essere 
fatto.
Ciao,
Paride



Re: [newbie] How to edit video mode when in failsafe?

2003-03-14 Per discussione H.J.Bathoorn
On Friday 14 March 2003 00:52, Leendert wrote:
 I tried 16 bit, also tried the super vga interlaced now, but still no
 result...

 I think I just download and try 9.1rc tomorrow, ok, it's a rc, beta,
 whatever, but maybe that one works :).
 Control+alt+backspace didn't work (maybe because that was not implemented
 in 8.2?) so I had to restart each time.

Meaning the machine hangs on the test:o(
And oh yes, it was implemented on 8.2 all right.
I've had similar problems on an old machine (ditto screen) with an old maxtor 
IIRC. Mdk always hung on the gui. I had to change settings in 
/etc/X11/XF86Config (this is thé file controlling your gui-settings) manually 
i.e. remove all the settings above 16 bits and setting the default to 16 
instead of 24 bits.
That would be in Section Screen
DefaultColordepth 16
and in the following Subsections delete (or comment out using #) all Depth and 
Modes that are too high.
Maybe needless to say: Make a back-up copy of the files in your 
/home/leendert/ directory (or anywhere, as long as it's not on /etc/X11 under 
the same name) first!!
Or send it to us so we can see what's up.

Take a peek in /etc/X11/ you'll find more XF86Config's there but the it should 
be using the first, i.e. the one without extensions.
You probably won't need to change the other XF86Config files I hope as now it 
should work IMO.



Slackware8.1 installed fine on the same machine using framebuffer so it had to 
be something like that.

Tip: Using mc (midnight commander) on the commandline gives a Norton 
Commander like interface making navigation and file tweaking a little easier. 

Just type startx or XFree86 on the CML and see whether X will start or 
what errors you're getting. Hoping the box doesn't hang anymore, but keep yer 
fingers crossed anyway. 


 I also found that HOWTO on the net, that is a little too complicated for
 me, but if 9.1 also won't work I'll try it for sure!
 On the other side, I need to buy a new monitor anyway, this one sucks...

  
Well 9.1rc2 certainly rocks but 8.2 is rocksolid and I doubt if there's a 
9.1-ppc version already.

Get yourself a nice big one. That way all the eye-candy is more fun:o) 

Good luck,
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[newbie] Recovering erased folders and files

2003-03-14 Per discussione Piero Piutti
Yesterday I accidentally erased my Documents folder from my home dir while 
doing some tweaking with my newly installed Kde 3.1 desktop enviroment.

I know this is an odd question but... is there any means to recover the files 
that were contained there?

Thanks!
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Re: [newbie] Recovering erased folders and files

2003-03-14 Per discussione Bart Salien
Op Friday 14 March 2003 09:44, schreef Piero Piutti:
 Yesterday I accidentally erased my Documents folder from my home dir
 while doing some tweaking with my newly installed Kde 3.1 desktop
 enviroment.

 I know this is an odd question but... is there any means to recover the
 files that were contained there?

 Thanks!

When you type rm --help  it says that it should be possible to recover them.

Unfortunatly it don 't says how , I can only give you hope , maybee someone 
else knows the answer .

greets, 

Bart.

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RE: [newbie] Recovering erased folders and files

2003-03-14 Per discussione Robert Wideman
There are a few howto's on the net but usually it is impossible to do.  You
have to generally know the area (inodes) on the HD that the files were on
and you read a hex dump of those inodes to verify and then you cat that
information to a file that you want to save it in.  I have read a few howtos
but i have never tested it and i think this is the only way unless you have
a trash program installed before you delete such files.
http://recover.sourceforge.net/linux/
http://lde.sourceforge.net/
http://www.r-tt.com/RLinux.shtml
Rob

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 Subject: [newbie] Recovering erased folders and files


 Yesterday I accidentally erased my Documents folder from my
 home dir while
 doing some tweaking with my newly installed Kde 3.1 desktop enviroment.

 I know this is an odd question but... is there any means to
 recover the files
 that were contained there?

 Thanks!
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RE: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 Windows XP Co-existing

2003-03-14 Per discussione Douglas B.
On Fri, 2003-03-14 at 03:47, Eileen Lopp wrote:
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Marshall Lake
  Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 7:06 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0  Windows XP Co-existing
 
 
 
  I have version 9.0 of Mandrake.  My hardware is an HP Media
  Center 873n.
 
  I'm having a problem getting Windows XP and Mandrake 9.0 to
  co-exist.  I
  understand it's better to have Windows already installed when
  you try to
  install Mandrake.  Is this correct?
 
  During the Mandrake installation process at disk partitioning
  time I have
  three choices (paraphrasing):
  1.  Erase entire disk.
  2.  Use the free space on a Windows partition.
  3.  Custom partitioning.
 
 
 
 The biggest problem here is that you're using an HP-provided disk to
 install XP.  HP ships restore or recovery disks, not install disks
 with their systems.  You aren't actually installing XP with that disk,
 you're copying a drive image, which is why you don't get any options
 when running it.  Contact HP support and demand a real install disk --
 they'll send one if you insist on it.
 

Failing that,it's probably worth investing in Partition Magic - makes it
simple to resize and shift XP partitions around and convert a data
partition from NTFS to FAT32 so that it's writable from Linux. 
Have the space above the XP partitions Unallocated and install Mandrake
9.0 in the unallocated space. Install LILO boot loader and you should be
able to boot to XP or to Linux OK. 

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Re: [newbie] Recovering erased folders and files

2003-03-14 Per discussione John Richard Smith
Bart Salien wrote:

Op Friday 14 March 2003 09:44, schreef Piero Piutti:
 

Yesterday I accidentally erased my Documents folder from my home dir
while doing some tweaking with my newly installed Kde 3.1 desktop
enviroment.
I know this is an odd question but... is there any means to recover the
files that were contained there?
Thanks!
   

When you type rm --help  it says that it should be possible to recover them.

Unfortunatly it don 't says how , I can only give you hope , maybee someone 
else knows the answer .

greets, 

Bart.
 

Midnight Commander also has a tab for recovery, but does not say 
anywhere how
you do it.

John

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Re: [newbie] Recovering erased folders and files

2003-03-14 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Fri, 2003-03-14 at 19:44, Piero Piutti wrote:
 Yesterday I accidentally erased my Documents folder from my home dir while 
 doing some tweaking with my newly installed Kde 3.1 desktop enviroment.
 
 I know this is an odd question but... is there any means to recover the files 
 that were contained there?
 
 Thanks!

Theoretically, it IS possible; but then again, time travel is
theoretically possible, too.

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RE: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 Windows XP Co-existing

2003-03-14 Per discussione Tsur, Oren
Hi 

Just a quick note! Although partition magic is extremely powerful and easy
to use,
it can cost you a buck or two. There are many alternative including 'line
command' option which you can find instructions to in WinXP help. Also try
Kazaa for partition magic (if I dare suggest that). Good luck

Oren 
-Original Message-
From: Douglas B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 14 March 2003 10:45
To: Beginners' Mailing List
Subject: RE: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0  Windows XP Co-existing


On Fri, 2003-03-14 at 03:47, Eileen Lopp wrote:
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Marshall Lake
  Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 7:06 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0  Windows XP Co-existing
 
 
 
  I have version 9.0 of Mandrake.  My hardware is an HP Media
  Center 873n.
 
  I'm having a problem getting Windows XP and Mandrake 9.0 to
  co-exist.  I
  understand it's better to have Windows already installed when
  you try to
  install Mandrake.  Is this correct?
 
  During the Mandrake installation process at disk partitioning
  time I have
  three choices (paraphrasing):
  1.  Erase entire disk.
  2.  Use the free space on a Windows partition.
  3.  Custom partitioning.
 
 
 
 The biggest problem here is that you're using an HP-provided disk to
 install XP.  HP ships restore or recovery disks, not install disks
 with their systems.  You aren't actually installing XP with that disk,
 you're copying a drive image, which is why you don't get any options
 when running it.  Contact HP support and demand a real install disk --
 they'll send one if you insist on it.
 

Failing that,it's probably worth investing in Partition Magic - makes it
simple to resize and shift XP partitions around and convert a data
partition from NTFS to FAT32 so that it's writable from Linux. 
Have the space above the XP partitions Unallocated and install Mandrake
9.0 in the unallocated space. Install LILO boot loader and you should be
able to boot to XP or to Linux OK. 

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[newbie] Defragging FAT32 partitions from linux

2003-03-14 Per discussione Luke Stutters
Could I defrag my Win98SE disc from linux? It's a bit difficult to do in 
Windows, as it insists on writing to the disc for no reason while defragging, 
which slows it down a lot. 
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RE: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 Windows XP Co-existing

2003-03-14 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Fri, 2003-03-14 at 22:29, Tsur, Oren wrote:
 Hi 
 
 Just a quick note! Although partition magic is extremely powerful and easy
 to use,
 it can cost you a buck or two. There are many alternative including 'line
 command' option which you can find instructions to in WinXP help. Also try
 Kazaa for partition magic (if I dare suggest that). Good luck
 
 Oren 

There are demo versions of Partition Magic floating around - you can
always try the PowerQuest website for it - luckily, I've got Partition
Magic complete sets from version 3 upwards to version 8 (grin) - just
the luck of the industry I'm in, I reckon...

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Re: [newbie] Defragging FAT32 partitions from linux

2003-03-14 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Fri, 2003-03-14 at 22:50, Luke Stutters wrote:
 Could I defrag my Win98SE disc from linux? It's a bit difficult to do in 
 Windows, as it insists on writing to the disc for no reason while defragging, 
 which slows it down a lot. 
 __

Disable your screensaver, close/kill any antivirus programs, and
literally anything else that isn't necessary (especially tray icons -
because they represent TSR programs) and then try doing your
scandisk/defrag again. You should be able to complete it with that done.

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[newbie] Visual editors for XML

2003-03-14 Per discussione Guilherme Cirne
Hi all,

I need to create XML files from DTD files for JasperReport and/or 
JFreeReport. Does anybody know of good visual editors for XML? Any 
pointers are appreciated.

TIA,

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Re: [newbie] kernel-headers and VMWARE

2003-03-14 Per discussione Bart Salien
Op Friday 14 March 2003 02:32, schreef Greg Meyer:
 On Thursday 13 March 2003 03:20 pm, Bart Salien wrote:
  Op Thursday 13 March 2003 20:37, schreef Frans Ketelaars:
   On Thursday 13 March 2003 19:13, Bart Salien wrote:
Hi all ,
   
I'm trying to install Vmware on my MDK9.0 , i get this message when
he asks the dir for my C header file /usr/include 
   

The directory of kernel headers (version 2.4.18) does not match your
running kernel (version 2.4.19-16mdk).  Even if the module were to
compile successfully, it would not load into the running kernel.

   
These header files are the ones that are installed by MDK 9.0 , and
Vmware will not continue the install .
   
On the net i found this kernel-headers-2.4.19-7mdk.x86_64.rpm .
   
Can i remove the 2.4.18 headers and install this one , or could this
cause problems for other programs ??
   
Thanks ,
   
Bart .
  
   I think you must install the kernel-source RPM corresponding to the
   kernel you are running. It is on your CD's.
  
   HTH,
  
   -Frans
 
  Frans ,
 
  i checked that , and kernel-headers-2.4.18-41mdk.i586.rpm is the only
  one on the CDs (Download and ProSuit editions) . Vmware is the only
  program until now which gives problems.
 
  greets ,
 
  Bart.

 The kernel-headers is part of the glibc packages and is required by glibc.

 The kernel-source package includes header files also and will be used by
 the GCC if it is installed.  Don't worry about the difference and install
 the kernel-source package

 urpmi kernel-source

I finaly got VMware to install after installing the kernel-source and 
glibc-devel-2.2.5 .

Thanks a lot for the advice .

Bart.

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Re: [newbie] Defragging FAT32 partitions from linux

2003-03-14 Per discussione Angus Auld

From: Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Defragging FAT32 partitions from linux

 On Fri, 2003-03-14 at 22:50, Luke Stutters wrote:
  Could I defrag my Win98SE disc from linux? It's a bit difficult to do in 
  Windows, as it insists on writing to the disc for no reason while defragging, 
  which slows it down a lot. 
  __
 Stephen Kuhn replied:
 Disable your screensaver, close/kill any antivirus programs, and
 literally anything else that isn't necessary (especially tray icons -
 because they represent TSR programs) and then try doing your
 scandisk/defrag again. You should be able to complete it with that done.
*
In addition to Stephen's good advice, if you still are having something writing to 
disc and causing restarts of defrag or scandisk, you might try doing them in safe 
mode.

HTH. Best regards.


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[newbie] four shots into his Dell laptop Sunday (3/2) morning

2003-03-14 Per discussione David Jones
this cpu had to be running windoz caz linux would have fought back 
LOL
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Re: [newbie] Recovering erased folders and files

2003-03-14 Per discussione John Richard Smith
Bart Salien wrote:

Op Friday 14 March 2003 09:44, schreef Piero Piutti:


Yesterday I accidentally erased my Documents folder from my home dir
while doing some tweaking with my newly installed Kde 3.1 desktop
enviroment.

I know this is an odd question but... is there any means to recover the
files that were contained there?

Thanks!



When you type rm --help  it says that it should be possible to 
recover them.

Unfortunatly it don 't says how , I can only give you hope , maybee 
someone
else knows the answer .

greets,

Bart.


Midnight Commander also has a tab for recovery, but does not say
anywhere how
you do it.

John

Later

If you type mc in a terminal you get midnight commander,
then select Command , then Undelete files (ext2 only)
you get a field where you type
/#undel:hda(n)   where (n) is the number of the partition
   that has the deleted files on it.
you then get ,

Undelfs:loading deleted files info-

It then checks through all the inodes on the patition
looking for the deleted files and makes a copy to
a new directory /#undel , only it takes so long I could
not wait for it to finish.
John

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 Windows XP Co-existing

2003-03-14 Per discussione Alan Shoemaker
Stephen Kuhn wrote:
 There are demo versions of Partition Magic floating
 around - you can always try the PowerQuest website for it -
 luckily, I've got Partition Magic complete sets from
 version 3 upwards to version 8 (grin) - just the luck of
 the industry I'm in, I reckon...

and there's a shareware offering (a work-a-like) called 
'Bootit NG'.

http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/

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Re: [newbie] Defragging FAT32 partitions from linux

2003-03-14 Per discussione Hendrik Boom
On Fri, Mar 14, 2003 at 11:50:59AM +, Luke Stutters wrote:
 Could I defrag my Win98SE disc from linux? It's a bit difficult to do in 
 Windows, as it insists on writing to the disc for no reason while defragging, 
 which slows it down a lot. 
 __

You could make a complete backup of your FAT partition containing Win98SE,
(I used tar), then wipe the partition clean (using rm), and then reatore
from backup.  Of course, they you had better have enought space for the
complete backup somewhere.  I used a remote NFS-mounted partition on another
machine for the backup, which Windows installation would have a hard time trashing 
(especially if you dosconnect the net!).

It worked for me, while I was still installing Win98SE.  During installation,
it would repeatedly crash in different ways -- once I had the basic system
working and had to install proper video drivers, printer drivers, etc.
By backing up before installing each component, and, in case of failure,
wiping and restoring from backup, I was able to get the thing working on
only two or three days.  Otherwise it would have taken over a week.  All
the time, Mandrake Linux worked just fine (although I did make sure to
have a boot disk, and I did test it before I relied on it.

So, I needed Linus to install Windows!

I was worried that Windows might have position-dependent information that
would become dislodged by this process, but in my installation, at least,
that wasn't the case.  I can't say if there would be something that would
make it all fail on your system.  But if you are worried, you might try
making an extra backup af all user data, and when everything faile,
reinstalling Windows from acratch and then restoring user data from
backup.  Of course yopu't better make sure you have a Mandrake bootdisk
first, or you won't be able to get to Linux at all after the reinstall.

-- hendrik

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Re: [newbie] Burning CD help

2003-03-14 Per discussione K Montgomery
I got that error once, and it turned out I did not have the appropriate
permissions to run the /usr/bin/cdrecord command.  The command was set
as executable by the a certain group, but I was not a member of that
group.  

To solve the problem, I think I just added my user to the appropriate
group.

- Kathy

On Fri, 2003-03-14 at 15:57, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
 Not for me - a friend of mine at our local LUG sent this to me. I'm not 
 familiar with the error he is getting - is anyone else? Thanks!
 
 PS I just sent him an e-mail to verify whether or not he has all IDE or IDE 
 and SCSI mixed.
 
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 key board.   
   I tried the drag n drop using one of the other roasters
   my cd is listed as /dev/hdd and the burner is dev/scd0 . when I try to burn 
 an ISO I get the following message warning contreactions.c 131 
 popen_rw_unbuffered execv0 returned.  not sure what it means .  tom
 


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Re: [newbie] How to edit video mode when in failsafe?

2003-03-14 Per discussione H.J.Bathoorn
On Friday 14 March 2003 22:02, Leendert wrote:
 Tried 9.1 today, that one didn't hang on the test, but returns after a few
 secs. I tried much monitor settings, also the custom with the correct
 values, but no good result. However, some settings gave me an image with
 readable text, only colors messed up and flickerings and stipes when moving
 the cursor like on a TV with a bad antenna, so I started X with that
 setting to test if I will run into other problems, but all works correctly.
 Now I'm going to try more settings and/or writing my own file. One
 question: how to edit config/text files without booting X (command prompt)?
 And can I submit the correct settings somewhere to help other users with
 the same monitor?

 Leendert

 PS: I also couldn¹t edit the config files in etc/X11/ because I don't know
 how to edit files in the command promt/terminal/whatever yet :/

You could use vi for that but it isn't that easy for some-one who'se never 
used it before.

Try my tip on using mc it works you quite well. It isn't installed by 
default on MDK9.1 IIRC so you'll have to install it yourself.

Type urpmi mc on the CML as su/root to do that, it will prompt you for the 
correct CD.

It's very similar in it's functions to Norton Commander or Wincommander so if 
you've used any of those before you'll feel right at home.

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[newbie] Hard Drive

2003-03-14 Per discussione Paul Dimitriu
Using /dev/hdxhow can I tell what is on what
drive?

In other words, I want to know what files /
directories are on that specific drive?

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Re: [newbie] Burning CD help

2003-03-14 Per discussione Ronald J. Hall
On Friday 14 March 2003 04:16 pm, K Montgomery wrote:
 I got that error once, and it turned out I did not have the appropriate
 permissions to run the /usr/bin/cdrecord command.  The command was set
 as executable by the a certain group, but I was not a member of that
 group.

 To solve the problem, I think I just added my user to the appropriate
 group.

 - Kathy

Thanks Kathy! I'll pass that tidbit along to my friend in our LUG.

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Re: [newbie] Hard Drive

2003-03-14 Per discussione Paul
In reply to Paul's mail, d.d. Fri, 14 Mar 2003 13:27:35 -0800 (PST):

Using /dev/hdxhow can I tell what is on what
drive?

In other words, I want to know what files /
directories are on that specific drive?

Check /etc/fstab, or run 'mount' to see what partition is linked to what
mountpoint. If e.g. /home is on a separate partition like /dev/hda2 you can
be sure that all files on /home are on /dev/hda2, and so on.
Only trick could be symlinks, they can point to another partition.

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Re: [newbie] Hard Drive

2003-03-14 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Sat, 2003-03-15 at 08:27, Paul Dimitriu wrote:
 Using /dev/hdxhow can I tell what is on what
 drive?
 
 In other words, I want to know what files /
 directories are on that specific drive?

Is the drive mounted?

If not, then create a directory under /mnt
(mkdir /mnt/nameofharddrive)

...and mount it
(mount /dev/hdx /mnt/nameofharddrive)

...then you can open a file manager and browse as you wish...

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[newbie] Strange strange strange

2003-03-14 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
Ok - so most y'all already know that I'm fully on with the 9.1rc2 stuff
and never reverting back to my previously horrible nature of being a
RedHat person. With that understood, here's a poser:

After a reboot, and when I first do a login, my KDE desktop has these
three wonderfully strange icons that pop outta nowhere - they've got
icons as devices, but the rest makes no sense to what I can figger out.
The names are:

* dynamicProbing
* dynamicAdding
* dynamicProcessing

Now, I happily delete them, but this is getting rather old. Happens
with  ALL users and even root.

Meanwhile, something I've noticed - if I set the system to runlevel 5,
more memory is used, churned, burned; if I start in runlevel3 and hand
start my Xwindows sessions, I have more speed, more memory and less
worries. I started doing this because the other day TWICE the entire
system locked up tighter than a drum and I couldn't even telnet into it
from another machine due to it's complete and utter lack of response;
the CPU fire applet was off the scale...but whilst starting Xwindows
by hand, it nary moves a molecule and flies like the dickens...

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[newbie] using a camcorder in Mandrake

2003-03-14 Per discussione Jim Snyder
Hi

I have been holding off on buying a camcorder for a long time but finally 
found one for a price I could not pass up that was within the family budget.

It does not have all the latest features but will work for what I need it for 
and was only $248 from Amazon.com. It is a Sony CCDTRV108 Hi8 Camcorder with 
2.5 LCD that had excellent reviews. It does not have a USB or Firewire port 
but does come with an S-video out.

I have a Panasonic EggCam video camera with a Bt848 video capture card that is 
curently connected to my computer and works well with Mandrake Linux 9.0. Can 
I use this card with my camcorder to play back the tape and capture 
individual frames to edit the tape or save a still image? I am new to this as 
one can tell.

Are there any other options for using this camcorder in Linux?

Many thanks for the help!

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[newbie] Dell Latitude notebook

2003-03-14 Per discussione Dennis Sue
Hello folks,
Since just acquiring this fine thing I was wondering if anyone has had an
experience installing Mandrake onto one ?
400 Mhz
128 meg RAM
3com cardbus fast ethernet
texas instruments pci 1225 cardbus controller
neomagicmagic graph 256 AV display
neomagic magic media 256 AV sound /audio


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Re: [newbie] How to edit video mode when in failsafe?

2003-03-14 Per discussione Leendert
I've got it to work by selecting ATI Radeon 8500 as graphic card and the
custom monitor settings all looks perfect, however, I'm pretty sure I have a
radeon 7500 installed (the hardwhare info from x also says that), so it's
very strange this works and the driver that should work doesn't.
I also don't have 3d hardware acceleration now (I think so because the game
chromium that was included with the install (yes, I looked around a bit :)
ran at about 0.5 frames/sec.), but I'm already happy that I can finally
explore and use this OS.

I'll try to edit that config now (I want all to work, including 3d
acceleration ;). After it installed mc I can just type mc file-to-edit
or man mc, mc tab or help mc?
I'm also going to post more questions in the list (sorry, I'm really a
newbie) about some plain things.

Thanks!

Leendert

On 3/14/03 10:22 PM, H.J.Bathoorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You could use vi for that but it isn't that easy for some-one who'se never
 used it before.
 
 Try my tip on using mc it works you quite well. It isn't installed by
 default on MDK9.1 IIRC so you'll have to install it yourself.
 
 Type urpmi mc on the CML as su/root to do that, it will prompt you for the
 correct CD.
 
 It's very similar in it's functions to Norton Commander or Wincommander so if
 you've used any of those before you'll feel right at home.
 
 Good Luck,
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Re: [newbie] Dell Latitude notebook

2003-03-14 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Sat, 2003-03-15 at 10:15, Dennis  Sue wrote:
 Hello folks,
 Since just acquiring this fine thing I was wondering if anyone has had an
 experience installing Mandrake onto one ?
 400 Mhz
 128 meg RAM
 3com cardbus fast ethernet
 texas instruments pci 1225 cardbus controller
 neomagicmagic graph 256 AV display
 neomagic magic media 256 AV sound /audio
 

Holy Cow! Dang - that thing sounds like an absolute SCREAMER mate! Dunno
if there's an OS that can handle such a monster machine! Don't think
that OS/2 has drivers for it yet...but hey, I'll be it can defrag faster
than dirt!

JOKING!

I installed RH on a machine like that - about a year ago - the only
thing I had a problem with was the onboard video - so I think that due
to it's age, you shouldn't have a problem with drivers in MDK 9.0 (or
even MDK 8.2)

Have you tried booting up the first CD with it yet to see how far you
get or if the graphical installer takes over?

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Re: [newbie] using a camcorder in Mandrake

2003-03-14 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Sat, 2003-03-15 at 10:07, Jim Snyder wrote:
 Hi
 
 I have been holding off on buying a camcorder for a long time but finally 
 found one for a price I could not pass up that was within the family budget.
 
 It does not have all the latest features but will work for what I need it for 
 and was only $248 from Amazon.com. It is a Sony CCDTRV108 Hi8 Camcorder with 
 2.5 LCD that had excellent reviews. It does not have a USB or Firewire port 
 but does come with an S-video out.
 
 I have a Panasonic EggCam video camera with a Bt848 video capture card that is 
 curently connected to my computer and works well with Mandrake Linux 9.0. Can 
 I use this card with my camcorder to play back the tape and capture 
 individual frames to edit the tape or save a still image? I am new to this as 
 one can tell.
 
 Are there any other options for using this camcorder in Linux?
 
 Many thanks for the help!
 
 Jim

If your BT848 has an SVIDEO in, then you're in biz.

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Re: [newbie] How to edit video mode when in failsafe?

2003-03-14 Per discussione H.J.Bathoorn
On Saturday 15 March 2003 00:11, Leendert wrote:
 I'll try to edit that config now (I want all to work, including 3d
 acceleration ;). After it installed mc I can just type mc file-to-edit
 or man mc, mc tab or help mc?

No, just type plain mc on the CML and hit enter and the program starts in 
the console.

Most other commands work with command /path_to/filename or for more info 
command --help or man command

As to the 3d, I'm not aqainted enough with your card to be suresomebody 
else will have to chip in:o/

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Re: [newbie] Strange strange strange

2003-03-14 Per discussione civileme
On Friday 14 March 2003 01:30 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
 Ok - so most y'all already know that I'm fully on with the 9.1rc2 stuff
 and never reverting back to my previously horrible nature of being a
 RedHat person. With that understood, here's a poser:

 After a reboot, and when I first do a login, my KDE desktop has these
 three wonderfully strange icons that pop outta nowhere - they've got
 icons as devices, but the rest makes no sense to what I can figger out.
 The names are:

 * dynamicProbing
 * dynamicAdding
 * dynamicProcessing

 Now, I happily delete them, but this is getting rather old. Happens
 with  ALL users and even root.

 Meanwhile, something I've noticed - if I set the system to runlevel 5,
 more memory is used, churned, burned; if I start in runlevel3 and hand
 start my Xwindows sessions, I have more speed, more memory and less
 worries. I started doing this because the other day TWICE the entire
 system locked up tighter than a drum and I couldn't even telnet into it
 from another machine due to it's complete and utter lack of response;
 the CPU fire applet was off the scale...but whilst starting Xwindows
 by hand, it nary moves a molecule and flies like the dickens...

Well right-click on those icons and select properties and find out what you 
can...  Also, look in ~/Desktop and look at the files and dump them at us.  
That seems dumb enough that I really want to know.

You are correct, kdm and gdm and even xdm have an overhead for starting apps 
and it can be very heavy for the more recent ones who want to offer services 
an experinced person like yourself does not need (cause you already know to 
type shutdown -h now in a terminal to quit or  -r reboot to a different OS)

I made a little convenience program for those who like to start in runlevel 3 
and login there then use a window manager  it is called Xtart and it is 
but a few lines of Python code.  It should be available under 9.0.  

urpmi Xtart

should fetch it

after that, go in on runlevel3, and type Xtart ...  then you will be able to 
choose any WM from a menu (or type 0 twice to bring up X with only a 
terminal)

Using Xtart and appropriate files placed in /etc/X11/wmsession.d you can 
nominate other programs for WM status.  I have used emacs for that, and it is 
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Re: [newbie] Strange strange strange

2003-03-14 Per discussione Robert Boggs
On Friday 14 March 2003 06:58 pm, you wrote:
They are Where in America? On Friday 14 March 2003 01:30 pm, Stephen Kuhn 
wrote:
  Ok - so most y'all already know that I'm fully on with the 9.1rc2 stuff
  and never reverting back to my previously horrible nature of being a
  RedHat person. With that understood, here's a poser:
 
  After a reboot, and when I first do a login, my KDE desktop has these
  three wonderfully strange icons that pop outta nowhere - they've got
  icons as devices, but the rest makes no sense to what I can figger out.
  The names are:
 
  * dynamicProbing
  * dynamicAdding
  * dynamicProcessing
 
  Now, I happily delete them, but this is getting rather old. Happens
  with  ALL users and even root.
 
  Meanwhile, something I've noticed - if I set the system to runlevel 5,
  more memory is used, churned, burned; if I start in runlevel3 and hand
  start my Xwindows sessions, I have more speed, more memory and less
  worries. I started doing this because the other day TWICE the entire
  system locked up tighter than a drum and I couldn't even telnet into it
  from another machine due to it's complete and utter lack of response;
  the CPU fire applet was off the scale...but whilst starting Xwindows
  by hand, it nary moves a molecule and flies like the dickens...

 Well right-click on those icons and select properties and find out what you
 can...  Also, look in ~/Desktop and look at the files and dump them at us.
 That seems dumb enough that I really want to know.

 You are correct, kdm and gdm and even xdm have an overhead for starting
 apps and it can be very heavy for the more recent ones who want to offer
 services an experinced person like yourself does not need (cause you
 already know to type shutdown -h now in a terminal to quit or  -r reboot
 to a different OS)

 I made a little convenience program for those who like to start in runlevel
 3 and login there then use a window manager  it is called Xtart and it
 is but a few lines of Python code.  It should be available under 9.0.

 urpmi Xtart

 should fetch it

 after that, go in on runlevel3, and type Xtart ...  then you will be able
 to choose any WM from a menu (or type 0 twice to bring up X with only a
 terminal)

 Using Xtart and appropriate files placed in /etc/X11/wmsession.d you can
 nominate other programs for WM status.  I have used emacs for that, and it
 is interesting, almost as amusing as emacs for a shell.

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Re: [newbie] Strange strange strange

2003-03-14 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Sat, 2003-03-15 at 10:58, civileme wrote:

  The names are:
 
  * dynamicProbing
  * dynamicAdding
  * dynamicProcessing
 
 Well right-click on those icons and select properties and find out what you 
 can...  Also, look in ~/Desktop and look at the files and dump them at us.  
 That seems dumb enough that I really want to know.
 

When I recreate them, I'll blast 'em online to y'all; rather
strange...

 You are correct, kdm and gdm and even xdm have an overhead for starting apps 
 and it can be very heavy for the more recent ones who want to offer services 
 an experinced person like yourself does not need (cause you already know to 
 type shutdown -h now in a terminal to quit or  -r reboot to a different OS)
 

...or reboot ...or poweroff(have my druthers to login from a
console anyways - better for troubleshooting and mucking around with
stuff...keeps the wife and kids away when they see a console login as
well...

 I made a little convenience program for those who like to start in runlevel 3 
 and login there then use a window manager  it is called Xtart and it is 
 but a few lines of Python code.  It should be available under 9.0.  
 
 urpmi Xtart
 
 should fetch it
 
...been using it since I started mucking around with MDK 9.0 - couldn't
live without it (well, I could, but life would be so much more boring).

 Using Xtart and appropriate files placed in /etc/X11/wmsession.d you can 
 nominate other programs for WM status.  I have used emacs for that, and it is 
 interesting, almost as amusing as emacs for a shell.

...speaking of which, just using xterm is rather interesting - and even
found a great wm called screen which is just that - a screen - console
screen - but you can have unlimited screens (for those that LOVE to be
in the console)- ditto with RatPoison...yet another cool low resource
wm...(going to try to get OpenLook Virtual Window Manager working on
here as well - can't seem to live on a computer without it -
nostalgia...)

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Re: [newbie] Strange strange strange

2003-03-14 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Sat, 2003-03-15 at 11:05, Robert Boggs wrote:
 On Friday 14 March 2003 06:58 pm, you wrote:
 They are Where in America?

Who the hell is in America? I'm an EX American, mate. Civilme is in
Alaska - BARELY America. I'm in Australia, NOT America! Ha! Put
Cheezwhiz on that and eat it! (grin)

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Re: [newbie] Could someone please explain Segmentation Fault

2003-03-14 Per discussione civileme
On Thursday 13 March 2003 04:16 am, Jerry Barton wrote:
 On 13 Mar 2003 23:15:02 +1100

 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Even though you might have all the requirements met, you might have
  either some stale libraries, or bad links to libraries, or not have
  certain libraries in your paths. Check your /etc/ld.so.conf and you
  might find that you can add a few path statements to that - so that your
  searches for libs is at least out of the way. If you make any
  modifications, you're going to have to run ldconfig again to rebuild
  the lib path cache.
 
  The seg faults can be caused from many different issues - one being that
  if a binary is linked against a conflicting library - that is certain to
  crash an application.

 Thanks, Stephen, I'll look into the libs.  When I first set up Mandrake 9.0
 I remember seeing threads about ld.so.conf and ldconfig so that was one of
 the first things that I did was to make sure that anywhere I have libs that
 they are in ld.so.conf and tried (successfully as far as I can see) to make
 sure that duplicate libs didn't get installed to say /usr/lib and
 /usr/local/lib (thought there are a few symlinks here and there to libs). 
 Tuxcart I think is definitely a lib issue since it won't run at all but
 immediately exits with Segmentation Fault  gyach, I'm not so sure of
 since it can run sometimes for 2-3 minutes then it happens, or it can run
 for 5-6 hours before it happens.  That was the reason I was wondering if it
 was a memory issue.  I played around with it a bit and I've noticed that it
 doesn't happen hardly at all under IceWM, never under PWM (at least not
 yet-it was up for 7 hours one day), sometimes under fluxbox and
 WindowMaker... I've been away from KDE/GNOME for Also when I mentioned all
 requirements met, I meant that durring the ./configure there were no
 looking for x no (there were at first but i noted these and installed
 them before compling completely.  gyach was a program i wanted to run
 stably.) though possibly it could have been built under a different
 (probably older) version of a lib or ap that I have installed and that may
 be the problem, yes? Thanks for your help :-)

 Jerry


As far as explaining segmentation fault check the old archives

http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg40291.html

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[newbie] crontab -e doesn't work

2003-03-14 Per discussione Andy Davidson
I recently installed Mandrake 9.0 on my laptop and have run into some
oddities.  The first is crontab.  If I do 'crontab -e', it brings up
my editor (emacs), but when I exit it, I get the message
   crontab: no changes made to crontab

The only way I can create or change my crontab entry is to:
edit a file, e.g., crontabstuff
crontab -r
crontab crontabstuff

Why? 

andy

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Re: [newbie] using a camcorder in Mandrake

2003-03-14 Per discussione Bryan Tyson
On Friday 14 March 2003 18:07, Jim Snyder wrote:

 Can
 I use this card with my camcorder to play back the tape and capture
 individual frames to edit the tape or save a still image?

I don't know about the aspect of editing a tape. However, I can tell you 
in Linux I sometimes watch tapes and capture images from tapes by 
plugging into the composite video jack of my WinTV card and using xawtv 
or KWinTV.

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[newbie] Installing Tar.gz

2003-03-14 Per discussione Marc Oestreicher
I guess that I have led a blessed life until now and have never had to 
install anything that was not a Mandrake RPM packege. But now the time has 
arrived when I need to install a tar.gz
   I have looked around and so far have been unable to find any good 
documation explaining how to install a application from a tar.gz file.
   Anyone know of any good online doc's  tutorials ect.  ?

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Re: [newbie] Hard Drive

2003-03-14 Per discussione David E. Fox
 Using /dev/hdxhow can I tell what is on what
 drive?

Depends greatly on how your system is partitioned. The
simplest answer: if your linux is all on one partition then
all your files (linux files) are on that drive. You could have
other files on other drives, if you run another OS on that 
drive/partition.

If this is not the case, type 'mount' and see what partitions
are mounted where. 

You might see an output like this:

/dev/hdb7 on / type reiserfs (rw,notail)
none on /proc type proc (rw)
none on /proc/bus/usb type usbdevfs (rw)
none on /dev type devfs (rw)
none on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,mode=0620)
/dev/hdb1 on /home type reiserfs (rw,notail)
none on /mnt/cdrom type supermount 
(ro,dev=/dev/hdc,fs=auto,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0)
none on /mnt/floppy type supermount 
(rw,sync,dev=/dev/fd0,fs=auto,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0)
/dev/hdb5 on /usr/local type reiserfs (rw,notail)
/dev/hda1 on /var type ext2 (rw)
/dev/hdb6 on /var/spool type reiserfs (rw,notail)

If you ignore the 'noen' entries and just concentrate on the 'dev'
entries then it lets you know that (in my instance) I have / on
the 7th partition of /dev/hdb (second drive). / is the beginning of
the file tree, so everything is on that parition unless part of the
tree is mounted somewhere else. Here, I have /home on /dev/hdb1, the
first partition of the second drive.




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Re: [newbie] Installing Tar.gz

2003-03-14 Per discussione Terry Smith
I'm sure documentation is all over the distro but the procedure is
straightforward.

1. uncompress the archive (tarball): tar xvzf pkg_to_be_installed.tar.gz

A directory named 'pkg_to_be_installed' will be created inside the
working directory.

2. change to that directory: cd pkg_to_be_installed

Check to see if it's a 'standard' source protocol situation. There
should be a file 'configure' that is executable and another file
'Makefile'. If so the next set of commands will finish things up. If not
then write back to the list and include a listing of the new direcotry.

BTW, there should be text files README' and INSTALL in the directory.
Read them as they'll have specific instructions for compiling and
installing the package.

BTW2, you must have a compiler, gcc, the appropriate libraries, etc.
installed. You get this by selecting 'development' during the
installation of Mandrake. If you haven't installed this software do it
now. You won't be able to proceed otherwise.

3. make sure you're logged in as root: su rtn root_password rtn

4. type './configure' (note the 'dot' before the 'slash')

5. If all OK, type 'make'

6. If all OK, type 'make install'

You're done!

On Fri, 2003-03-14 at 03:25, Marc Oestreicher wrote:
 I guess that I have led a blessed life until now and have never had to 
 install anything that was not a Mandrake RPM packege. But now the time has 
 arrived when I need to install a tar.gz
I have looked around and so far have been unable to find any good 
 documation explaining how to install a application from a tar.gz file.
Anyone know of any good online doc's  tutorials ect.  ?
 
 Thanks
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Re: [newbie] Defragging FAT32 partitions from linux

2003-03-14 Per discussione David E. Fox
 parents) come along and tidy it because we can hardly get the door open. 
 That's defragging! So the diff between window$ and linux is the diff between 
 being well brought up or not;o)

Hey, I've been running Linux for years byt you should see my apt. :)

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Re: Recall: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 Windows XP Co-existing

2003-03-14 Per discussione David E. Fox
 And by the way, I own the patent on that folder-and-envelope metaphor 
 for filesystems, so if any of you use it anywhere else, I'll sue your 
 asses ;-)

Yeah, that was a very good explanation - I'd offer a twist - the
pages are stored in a number of different 'subject' folders, which
are of course directories. The only difference with Windows is that
oftentimes your maths homework pages end up being put in the folder
for psychology :). Of course, the OS can find it in the right
folder, but only after rummaging through all the pages that tell it
where to look. That's the File Allocation Table (FAT) in Windows.

It's reminding me of a story I read as a child where the kids were
trying to help Mommy by washing all the cans in the pantry -- when
after a while they found out all the labels were gone from the cans. 
Dutifully, they tried to reglue the labels, but of course that 
didn't help. :)

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Re: [newbie] Defragging FAT32 partitions from linux

2003-03-14 Per discussione David E. Fox
 Go to Lake District for the weekend.
 
 When you get back Sunday evening all will be defragged.

And those people must not get much work done, going on vacation every 
weekend :).

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Re: [newbie] crontab -e doesn't work

2003-03-14 Per discussione Miark
Although I can't explain why, I know that crontab -e has a problem with
eMacs. I use MicroEmacs and experience the same thing. Hmm, I should have
brought that up in Bugzilla.

Miark



On Fri, 14 Mar 2003 17:18:47 -0800
Andy Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I recently installed Mandrake 9.0 on my laptop and have run into some
 oddities.  The first is crontab.  If I do 'crontab -e', it brings up
 my editor (emacs), but when I exit it, I get the message
crontab: no changes made to crontab
 
 The only way I can create or change my crontab entry is to:
 edit a file, e.g., crontabstuff
 crontab -r
 crontab crontabstuff
 
 Why? 
 
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Re: [newbie] crontab -e doesn't work

2003-03-14 Per discussione Andy Davidson
On Fri, Mar 14, 2003 at 10:43:08PM -0500, Miark wrote:
 Although I can't explain why, I know that crontab -e has a problem with
 eMacs. I use MicroEmacs and experience the same thing. Hmm, I should have
 brought that up in Bugzilla.

I just tried 'crontab -e' after changing my EDITOR shell variable to
vi.  And it worked!  Can anybody explain this?  Emacs works fine for
crontab in both 8.1 and 8.2.  Are we into holy war here?

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Re: [newbie] Installing Tar.gz

2003-03-14 Per discussione David E. Fox

I have looked around and so far have been unable to find any good=20
 documation explaining how to install a application from a tar.gz file.

What are you ttrying to install?

Usually (but now necessarily) tar.gz files are compressed archives
of source code. I assume that's what you're trying to install. And
tar.gz files can just be like any archive of files - no 'install'
really is done, only de-archiving.

If you've ever used zip or unzip on DOS or Windows systems, 
a tar.gz file ss similar. 

Usually you'll start out by first looking at what directories
and files are there (most zip files in DOS are a couple of
single files, but in Unix they're typically a number of files and
subdirectories). Then you'll extract it somewhere, usually in the
current directory. 

First step is to look at it:

$ zcat xtrs-4.5a.tar.gz | tar -tvf -

(I just happen to have a handy-dandy tar.gz file here).

You do that, you should see something like:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] dfox]$ zcat xtrs-4.5a.tar.gz | tar -tvf -
drwxr-xr-x mann/staff0 2001-05-04 23:18:22 xtrs-4.5a/
-r--r--r-- mann/staff14611 2000-12-15 15:21:10 xtrs-4.5a/trs_memory.c
-r--r--r-- mann/staff 4733 2000-05-16 19:37:44 xtrs-4.5a/cmddump.c
-r--r--r-- mann/staff 1383 2001-02-16 23:23:46 xtrs-4.5a/error.c
-r--r--r-- mann/staff18401 2001-05-01 17:52:20 xtrs-4.5a/debug.c
-r--r--r-- mann/staff13926 2001-02-17 17:32:18 xtrs-4.5a/trs_io.c
-rw-r--r-- mann/staff  424 2000-07-21 21:55:02 xtrs-4.5a/fakerom.hex
-r--r--r-- mann/staff   150593 2001-02-16 23:32:20 xtrs-4.5a/trs_chars.c
-r--r--r-- mann/staff  808 2000-05-16 19:40:40 xtrs-4.5a/trs_printer.c
-r--r--r-- mann/staff  716 2000-05-16 19:37:45 xtrs-4.5a/config.h
-r--r--r-- mann/staff 7223 2000-07-21 18:37:02 xtrs-4.5a/z80.h
-r--r--r-- mann/staff 5439 2001-05-01 20:29:21 xtrs-4.5a/trs.h
-r--r--r-- mann/staff 7048 2000-05-16 19:37:29 xtrs-4.5a/README
-r--r--r-- mann/staff 1447 2001-04-27 14:41:39 xtrs-4.5a/README.tpm

and so forth. On this particular file, all the files are going to be
in the 'xtrs-4.5a' subdirectory.

Not all tar.gz files are encased within subdirectories. This is the
time then to repeat an adage I used to tell others -- always -tvf 
before you -xvf'.  In other words, always see what the tar is going to
produce before you actually extract it. Otherwise, you may end up with
a hodge-podge of files strewn all over your home directory.

Now, let's extract:

$ zcat xtrs-4.5a.tar.gz | tar -xvf -

Now, you'll just see a flurry of filenames on yuor screen -- that is
tar telling you what it is extracting. 

Once this is done, you have a new subdirectory 'xtrs-4.5a' and if you
change into that directory, you'll see all the files.

Now, what you do with that is up to you, but in this case
xtrs-4.5a.tar.gz is a tar source archive of a TRS-80 emulator for
X/Linux, and of course to install this puppy we need to compile and
install it.

Normally, building consists of four steps:

./configure
make
su root
make install

Of course, there are going to be variants fo that process; for
instance less complicated programs don't need a configure step, but
you might need to edit some files beforehand. Often there is a README
file (just as there was in DOS shareware zips many years ago) or a
INSTALL file -- that contains the directions on how to use the
package.


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[newbie] urpmi is hanging

2003-03-14 Per discussione David E. Fox
Strangely enough, but now when I want to update my urpmi setup, it's
sitting there hanging. I'm doing 'urpmi.update -a' and it's just
hanging all at the first site (ftp1u). I didn't change my
configuration at all. Anyone elese experiencing problems connecting to
sites?

here, ftp1u is off of gatech.edu, maybe that's the issue. traceroute
is hanging.

Guess Georgia is off the net :)

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Re: [newbie] crontab -e doesn't work

2003-03-14 Per discussione Russ Kepler
On Friday 14 March 2003 09:08 pm, Andy Davidson wrote:
 On Fri, Mar 14, 2003 at 10:43:08PM -0500, Miark wrote:
  Although I can't explain why, I know that crontab -e has a problem with
  eMacs. I use MicroEmacs and experience the same thing. Hmm, I should have
  brought that up in Bugzilla.

 I just tried 'crontab -e' after changing my EDITOR shell variable to
 vi.  And it worked!  Can anybody explain this?  Emacs works fine for
 crontab in both 8.1 and 8.2.  Are we into holy war here?

This rings a bell for me.  I ran into something like it and if it's similar 
it's the exit value from emacs - check by editing a file using 

ls test; emacs test; echo $?

Betcha the exit value is non-zero.

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Re: [newbie] [OT] FYI - SCO sues IBM for $1 billion for

2003-03-14 Per discussione David E. Fox
 
   http://www.pclinuxonline.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=4639

Good idea...

This reminds me of when I first got into Linux. Back then, there was
a few commercial possibiliities for Unix, and there was
Coherent. Coherent was a version of Unix for the x86 but it lacked
many of the functional necessities that Linux gave the user and 
gradually Linux and other free clones won out and Coherent went 
out of business. I remember attending a panel discussion at a local
LUG several years ago - there were Linux and 386bsd (another variant)
and Coherent people. At the end of the discussion the Coherent guy 
looked kind of flustered :).

but at least Coherent didn't sue. And now SCO seems to want to
sue at least IBM - they've done considerable gppd for Linux in the
last year or so. Personally, I don't see how SCO can compete - it's
like if a mechanical clock maker sued an electric clock maker because
the latter had a dial and hands :(.





 
 
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[newbie] Local zone time isn't sticky

2003-03-14 Per discussione Andy Davidson
On a dual boot laptop (Win98 and Mandrake 9.0), the BIOS time is set
to the local zone: Pacific Standard.  In Mandrake, I go into Mandrake
Control Center and set the time and the time zone (PST8PDT) and answer
'No' to the question Is your hardware clock set to GMT? When I
select 'OK' the screen blanks for several seconds, then comes back.

But eventually over the next several hours, the date/time reverts to
GMT. I set up a cron job to save the date/time each hour and this
shows up in /var/log/messages:
  Mar 14 18:01:00 tribble CROND[3623]: (root) CMD (nice -n 19 run-parts 
/etc/cron.hourly) 
  Mar 14 18:05:00 tribble CROND[3638]: (andyd) CMD (/bin/date   $HOME/date.out 2 
$HOME/date.err) 
  Mar 14 19:01:00 tribble CROND[3641]: (root) CMD (nice -n 19 run-parts 
/etc/cron.hourly) 
  Mar 14 11:53:55 tribble CROND[3666]: (andyd) CMD (/bin/date   $HOME/date.out 2 
$HOME/date.err) 
Note the sudden time change on the last line.

What is going on?  And how do I fix it?

andy

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Re: [newbie] crontab -e doesn't work

2003-03-14 Per discussione Andy Davidson
On Fri, Mar 14, 2003 at 09:22:04PM -0700, Russ Kepler wrote:
 This rings a bell for me.  I ran into something like it and if it's similar 
 it's the exit value from emacs - check by editing a file using 
 
 ls test; emacs test; echo $?
 
 Betcha the exit value is non-zero.

Nope.  It's zero.

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Re: [newbie] Dell Latitude notebook

2003-03-14 Per discussione Noah A Hicks
I'm running a laptop that sounds identical to yours is it an LS400?
Mine works fine with Mandrake 9.1rc1 as it did with 9.0.  I would
recomment using 9.1 if you use GNOME (a lot of bugs were fixed) but KDE
seemed fine on both.

Mandrake's installation routine knew exactly how to handle the Neomagic
cards just make sure yo select the right one.

You will have to compile drivers for your winmodem.  This needs too be
done after you have installed linux.  Be sure to put the files on a
disk because you won't have internet access unless you leave a windows
partition on.
The drivers are at:
http://www.sfu.ca/~cth/ltmodem/dists/mandrake or
http://www.physcip.uni-stuttgart.de/heby/ltmodem/dists/mandrake

Download the file called 8.1_devfs_info.tar.gz

I recommend reading as much as you can here:
http://www.sfu.ca/~cth/ltmodem/

Let me know if you have questions
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 On Sat, 2003-03-15 at 10:15, Dennis  Sue wrote:
  Hello folks,
  Since just acquiring this fine thing I was wondering if anyone has had an
  experience installing Mandrake onto one ?
  400 Mhz
  128 meg RAM
  3com cardbus fast ethernet
  texas instruments pci 1225 cardbus controller
  neomagicmagic graph 256 AV display
  neomagic magic media 256 AV sound /audio
 

 Holy Cow! Dang - that thing sounds like an absolute SCREAMER mate! Dunno
 if there's an OS that can handle such a monster machine! Don't think
 that OS/2 has drivers for it yet...but hey, I'll be it can defrag faster
 than dirt!

 JOKING!

 I installed RH on a machine like that - about a year ago - the only
 thing I had a problem with was the onboard video - so I think that due
 to it's age, you shouldn't have a problem with drivers in MDK 9.0 (or
 even MDK 8.2)

 Have you tried booting up the first CD with it yet to see how far you
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Re: [newbie] urpmi is hanging

2003-03-14 Per discussione Dennis Myers
On Friday 14 March 2003 10:13 pm, David E. Fox wrote:
 Strangely enough, but now when I want to update my urpmi setup, it's
 sitting there hanging. I'm doing 'urpmi.update -a' and it's just
 hanging all at the first site (ftp1u). I didn't change my
 configuration at all. Anyone elese experiencing problems connecting to
 sites?

 here, ftp1u is off of gatech.edu, maybe that's the issue. traceroute
 is hanging.

 Guess Georgia is off the net :)
I was having problems with errors and not getting an install from the cooker 
mirrors so I deleted my ftp main site and added it back in and all works like 
it should again. I can not explain it cause the source edit would not add the 
main ftp site back in until I did the delete and reinstall. No idea why but 
maybe it will work in your situation. HTH

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[newbie] RSA encryption in 9.1

2003-03-14 Per discussione Dennis Myers
There does not seem to be any 128 bit encryption in the 9.1rc2 + cooker 
updates. I have tried installing krsa-0.1.4 but run into a problem with QT:
error message is:
checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (= 1.42 and  2.0) (headers and 
libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
I installed qt-1.44 something and still get the same message so I must not 
have something pointing in the right place. Anyone have 128bit encryption 
active in konqueror or mozilla web browsers? and how did you do it? I have 
java  jre-1.4.0 working but no encryption. Any suggestions will be 
appreciated, Thanks,

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Re: [newbie] RC2 and networking

2003-03-14 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Sat, 2003-03-15 at 04:44, Mark Weaver wrote:

 personally I'd like to see at least one more RC come out before 9.1 goes 
 final. There appears to be some nagging issues that have yet to be resolved.
 
 For me, the only one I've got is the application filesystem nav windows 
 in KDE that don't work unless you type the path in the look in field. 

It's actually a bug in KDE 3.1 - I've posted on the kde-linux group and
that was the answer back - no fix yet, but it was recommended to change
the mouse settings - which I did, but still didn't fix. Ah well...if it
ain't one think, it's another...

 I posted this on cooker, but it's been sitting there for two days 
 without so much as a peep. the only app nav window that works is the one 
 that is in Kate which works perfectly. The strange thing is that this 
 behavior is only seen while running KDE. If I've got an app running in 
 any other window manager the nav windows work as they're supposed to. 
 Even the native KDE apps like Kwrite.

Well, then it does go to show ya that it's a core KDE 3.1 issue - and
actually, I'm going to do some further digging today to see what I can
come up with...

I'm still not happy with Gnome 2.2.0 - ain't been happy with Gnome since
they started moving away from the 1.4+ base - it's been more than six
months and they're just frigging up more and more - only the hard core
Gnome lovers are sticking to it, and it's getting worse and worse
reviews; and being that I run Galeon and Evolution, problems with Gnome
tend to cause me aches in Evolution at times...but easily resolved -
just to delete the damn .gnome* files and fire it up again...bloody
theme engine chokes and pukes.

Meanwhile, last time I tried to reply to yer email, it hung for days in
limbo cuz it couldn't find your server...hope you got that bit resolved
mate...

Here goes..!
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