Re: [newbie-it] OT: Mozilla 1.4

2003-08-29 Per discussione Emiliano La Licata
Alle 21:03, mercoledì 27 agosto 2003, artasersec ha scritto:


 Non mi fare invidia, sto aspettando mandrake 9.2 per provarlo.
 Ho cercato di togliere Mozilla 1.3 per mettere la versione 1.4 ma il
 risultato è un gran casino, quindi mi sono risolto ad aspettare.
 Ho notato che a caricare le immagini Mozilla 1.3 è più veloce di Opera
 7.11 che è il browser che uso di solito perché ha funzionalità molto
 comode, se Mozilla 1.4 è ancora più veloce sarà uno spettacolo da usare.
 Ciao

1) non so perché ma le tue mail mi arrivano con questi caratteri
2) non c'è bisogno chea aspetti la 9.2 per mozilla 1.4! rimuovi il tuo mozilla 
dal sistema com rpm e poi scompatta il tar di mozilla 1.4 che trovi in 
qualche rivista e ti ritrovi il programma bello e pronto..

ciao




Re: [newbie-it] Problema TouchPad

2003-08-29 Per discussione miKe
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Alle 16:33, venerdì 29 agosto 2003,  in merito a [newbie-it] Problema 
TouchPad,  Antonello   ha scritto:
 Salve amici, come posso risolvere il problema Touchpad per il mio
 portatile Asus L3800??

mah
in genere emulano i mouse ps2...


 Dove posso scaricarlo?? E quale programma???

altrimenti scarica synaptics, è in definitiva lo stesso supporto che usi 
sotto win$, non ricordo la url...

copia snyaptics_drv.o in  /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input/

aggiungi queste linee a /etc/X11/XF86Config-4

Section InputDevice
  Driversynaptics
  IdentifierMouse[1]
  OptionDevice/dev/psaux
  OptionEdges 1900 5400 1800 3900
  OptionFinger25 30
  OptionMaxTapTime 20
  OptionMaxTapMove 220
  OptionVertScrollDelta 100
  OptionMinSpeed  0.02
  OptionMaxSpeed  0.18
  OptionAccelFactor 0.0010
#  Option   Repeater  /dev/ps2mouse
#  Option   SHMConfig on
EndSection

aggiungi alla sezione CorePointer :

Section ServerLayout
...
  InputDevice Mouse[1]  CorePointer
...

avvia X

coi soliti metodi inoltre funzia anche insieme a un mouse esterno, che 
aiuta..

 Grazie.
 Antonello.


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Re: [newbie-it] Fotocamera

2003-08-29 Per discussione miKe
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Alle 17:23, venerdì 29 agosto 2003,  in merito a [newbie-it] Fotocamera,  
stormy   ha scritto:
 Non riesco a configurare la mia Logitech pocket digital
 le ho provate tutte partendo da
...

 Qualcuno sa dirmi cosa sbaglio?
 Grazie a tutti


non tutte le fotocamere funzionano in emulazione 
usb-storage..
per la mia benq ho compilato i cvs di gphoto e riesco a scaricare le 
immagini  usando un pò di script...

l'ultima prova puoi farla con sda senza numero (molte penne usb 
funzionano così..) 

strano comunque che al momento di collegarla messages non ti dica che la 
peiferica non usa moduli conosciuti..

hai provato a smontare /proc/bus/usb a scaricare usbcore e tutta la 
catena usb, quindi passare a mano a partire da usb-storage quindi 
rimontare /proc/bus/usb ?

 Saluti

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Re[4]: [newbie] Linux Apps - Firewalls

2003-08-29 Per discussione rikona
Hello HaywireMac,

Thursday, August 28, 2003, 1:17:32 PM, you wrote:

H Like I said earlier in the thread, the prob with app awareness is
H that a lot of trojans will either:

H a) disguise themselves as the trusted app, say IE, or Mozilla, by
H overwriting the executable.

H b) embed themselves in the executable itself, difficult, but it has been
H done.

VERY tough to get the same md5 for either a or b.

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Re[2]: [newbie] Linux Apps - Firewalls

2003-08-29 Per discussione rikona
Hello Heather/Femme,

Thursday, August 28, 2003, 1:21:31 PM, you wrote:

HF for a free firewall its the best one out there for a windows
HF computer IMO.  Anything better costs $1000 per liscence
HF (Checkpoint anyone?)  is very hard to configure.

I prefer Kerio to ZA myself - used to use ZA but like the flexibility
and control of Kerio. It DOES require some knowledge to set it up
properly though, and this is why the masses will not likely be using
it well. ZA is probably best for the masses - just install it and use
it.

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Re[6]: [newbie] Linux Apps - Firewalls

2003-08-29 Per discussione rikona
Hello HaywireMac,

Thursday, August 28, 2003, 1:27:50 PM, you wrote:

 Well, it would have to be in the exact same location and have the
 same md5 signature - pretty difficult disguise. :-)

H ZoneAlarm cannot do this, AFAIK.

I haven't used ZA for quite a while, but I believe the latest version
does this. Other free firewalls certainly CAN do this.

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Re: [newbie] Reinstalling WinMe and Grub,OT me being silly...

2003-08-29 Per discussione Heather/Femme
On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 16:48, ed tharp wrote:
 On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 18:20, Heather/Femme wrote:
 
   - Keeping ppl from watching TV, Femme
 yep

*smiles shyly* You're a bad man Ed... lol

but i'm just doing my job I swear!

Fimo! 

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Re[2]: [newbie] Linux Apps - Firewalls

2003-08-29 Per discussione rikona
Hello Derek,

Thursday, August 28, 2003, 1:59:29 PM, you wrote:

DJ As I understand it. There is nothing to stop a virus reconfiguring
DJ ZoneAlarm so it is undetected.

True - but this is a problem with the OS letting just about anything
do anything to anything. :-) ZA is at the mercy of a poor OS design
philosophy.

DJ I may be wrong but I believe there is also nothing In Windows to stop a virus 
DJ simply bypassing the IP stack and using raw sockets to send packets to the 
DJ interface around the firewall.

Again true. See the above comment. Especially with the M$ decision to
use raw sockets in XP. Yech! They are really asking for it. OTOH, it
might be M$ wanting to do something sneaky themselves. Hmmm...

DJ To do the same thing under Linux the virus would have to be running as root, 
DJ and of course we *never* run as root do we?

When linux becomes as popular as Win, we'll have about as many running
as root as we now do running admin. :-) LOTS of them, no doubt. Many
XP users I've talked with don't even know what admin means, and don't
care either. Beware the unwashed masses :-)

DJ As for a Linux app aware firewall try this one http://www.itshield.com/ 

Thanks for the pointer. It looks like a service-based FW, not an
app-aware FW. Looks like the usual stand-alone FW, not a 'personal'
one on the same computer. This would make it even harder to be
app-aware. It will stop some service(by some app) if it doesn't obey
the rules of the service, but if it does follow the service rules, it
looks as though any app using the service correctly would go through.

Still searching

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Re[2]: [newbie] Linux Apps - Firewalls

2003-08-29 Per discussione rikona
Hello HaywireMac,

Thursday, August 28, 2003, 3:07:24 PM, you wrote:

 If all an intruder can see is my router ip, how can it compromise
 my system?

H It cannot, it must see open ports to access. This is the classic the
H only truly secure computer is one that is locked in a room with no
H outside access. If all your ports are closed, he would have to get in
H with a trojan, a file you bring in yourself and execute.

H This why real security uses more than one defense tactic: firewall
H so your ports are protected, IDS to look for known or suspicious
H hacker activity, and Trojan detection.

Actually, the app-aware FW is just another tool too. It should not
really be used by itself, but as an additional line of defense behind
a stand-alone FW such as in a router. The two kinds of FW's are for
different purposes and are complementary, and should be used together
for best results. Especially good if you are interested in privacy.

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Re[2]: [newbie] Linux Apps - Firewalls

2003-08-29 Per discussione rikona
Hello Oliver,

Thursday, August 28, 2003, 3:38:54 PM, you wrote:

OM The shortcoming I have found with ZoneAlarm comes with virtual
OM machine or interpreted apps. e.g. you grant access rights to
OM java.exe, perl.exe,  python.exe etc, and then *any* Java, Python
OM or Perl program you run can  get through your firewall

Yep! Virtual is a big hazard, especially if taken to the M$ extreme. I
don't like the trend for apps to get too permissive in what they
allow. Nice features sometimes, but it increases the risk too.

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Re: [newbie] Linux Apps - Firewalls

2003-08-29 Per discussione HaywireMac
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 21:59:29 +0100
Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 As I understand it. There is nothing to stop a virus reconfiguring
 ZoneAlarm so it is undetected. 

Exactly.

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[newbie] Anyone know of an icq type app taht is decent?

2003-08-29 Per discussione Heather/Femme
Has to be able ot see  respond to invisible ppl on icq!

Am using ayttm at the moment. Great little program.  But can't see or
talk to invisible icqers!  Ideas?

can gaim do it? anothe rclient?

help?

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Re: [newbie] Anyone know of an icq type app taht is decent?

2003-08-29 Per discussione Angus Auld

- Original Message -
From: Heather/Femme [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 19:19:05 -0600
To: Newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] Anyone know of an icq type app taht is decent?

 Has to be able ot see  respond to invisible ppl on icq!
 
 Am using ayttm at the moment. Great little program.  But can't see or
 talk to invisible icqers!  Ideas?
 
 can gaim do it? anothe rclient?
 
 help?
 
 Femmastoned
 

Heather, now I really believe you MUST be stoned.to see, AND talk to INVISIBLE 
ppl?? LOL ;-)

I'm not sure I know what you mean, but I have used gaim a little, and it is a pretty 
nice program. I upgraded from 0.59 that came with 9.1 to gaim-0.66-1mdk9.1.i586.rpm 
from sourceforge. It works great as far as I can tell. I'm not really an avid im'er 
though. I use it for msn, but haven't had a chance to try icq. 
Just give it a try, it's only about a 2MB download...you might like it. :-)

http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/gaim/gaim-0.66-1mdk9.1.i586.rpm?download

Take good care Heather/Femme.

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Re: [newbie] Anyone know of an icq type app taht is decent?

2003-08-29 Per discussione Heather/Femme
On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 20:50, Angus Auld wrote:
snip
 
 Heather, now I really believe you MUST be stoned.to see, AND talk to INVISIBLE 
 ppl?? LOL ;-)
 
 I'm not sure I know what you mean, but I have used gaim a little, and it is a pretty 
 nice program. I upgraded from 0.59 that came with 9.1 to gaim-0.66-1mdk9.1.i586.rpm 
 from sourceforge. It works great as far as I can tell. I'm not really an avid im'er 
 though. I use it for msn, but haven't had a chance to try icq. 
 Just give it a try, it's only about a 2MB download...you might like it. :-)
 
 http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/gaim/gaim-0.66-1mdk9.1.i586.rpm?download
 
 Take good care Heather/Femme.
 
 --Angus

Invisble means only select ppl can see you online. your status is
hidden  as offline to ppl not on your visible list.  Make sense?

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Re: [newbie] Linux Apps - ClipMate

2003-08-29 Per discussione Russ
Hi Derek,

Thanks for the info. Yes I do use Klipper but ClipMate was a very useful 
clipboard tool that I used constantly (I actually paid for that one, and 
2 upgrades). With it you could create groups that you could copy into 
and these groups were permanent. You also had the temporary group that 
you could configure to either start deleting entries after a given time 
or number.

You could also paste several different clips into one or merge existing 
clips into one.

Power Paste was also a useful function. You clicked paste and then it 
automatically moved to the next clip in line (like a revolver). So 
clicking paste paste paste (3 times) gave you 3 different things.

You could also edit the clips within clipmate. The one touch wizard took 
out all unwanted hard line breaks and those stupid annoying carrots . 
Then it is all clean so you can forward all those stupid chain letters 
to people who have seen them a thousand times. But hey, it was quick and 
easy to do :-)

This is the home page of ClipMate:

http://www.thornsoft.com/
I know this is a windows program but this would be a definate plus to 
add something similar to this to Linux

Thanks
Russ
Derek Jennings wrote:

On Thursday 28 Aug 2003 1:58 am, Russ wrote:
 

Second is a Clipboard program that you can save data in different groups
like ClipMate.
Thanks
Russ
   



I have no idea what ClipMate is like (Windows free for 2 years now), but if 
you use the KDE desktop you already have a nice clipboard application called 
Klipper. It is that little clipboard icon in your bottom right.

Klipper saves the last 7 pieces of text you highlight with mouse. Click on it 
and select which you want to move to the front and paste by clicking your 
mouse wheel.

Even without klipper you can copy/paste in any Linux desktop with 
highlight/centre button

snip
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Re: [newbie] Anyone know of an icq type app taht is decent?

2003-08-29 Per discussione Inhabitant of Zion
 
 Invisble means only select ppl can see you online. your status is
 hidden  as offline to ppl not on your visible list.  Make sense?
 
 Fem
 

Hi

I use Kopete and I can confirm that you can do this with that program.

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[newbie] Help sounddriver !

2003-08-29 Per discussione Iwan Binanto
Hi, I have some trouble with my Mandrake 9.0 which is
can not access my sound card (there is no sound). When
booting I always receive a message that sound server
cannot start because CPU overload. I don't know what
happend. Please some body help me !!!

Specification my CPU is :
Mainboard intel desktop EEA2 (i815).
VGA + Sound card onboard.
RAM 256MB.
Processor P3-800eb.
HDD Seagate Barracuda 20 GB.




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[newbie] Apps for Lexmark1000

2003-08-29 Per discussione Iwan Binanto
Hi, I'm forget my printer. I have printer Lexmark 1000
which is detected with my Mandrake 9.0. Unfortunately,
I can't access my printer to change cartridge or to
cleaning it's head. Please help me to find the
applications for doing that.
Thx. 

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Re: [newbie] Compaq is just plain weird [Closed]

2003-08-29 Per discussione Erylon Hines
On Thursday 28 August 2003 11:23 am, HaywireMac wrote:
 On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 08:01:53 -0400

 HaywireMac [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
  I thought I would create a seperate P2P server using that infamous old
  Compaq POS 
 Lesson: Never, ever, even if it is *free*, use a Compaq, if you have
 *any other alternative*.



Agreed!  Refer to my Laptop from Hell posts for my real opinions of Compaq.

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Re: [newbie] XFCE4 rc3

2003-08-29 Per discussione Ken Rhodes
Thanks for that link!  :) :) :) 

- Original Message -
From: Joeb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 22:41:04 -0500
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] XFCE4 rc3
Ken Rhodes wrote:

Alright!

I am delighted to find that XFCE4 rc3 is out.

Now can any one tell me if the redhat 9.0 rpm tarball 
with all the goodies will install on Mandrake 9.1?

Just call me Casper Milquetoast.

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RE: [newbie] Win XP

2003-08-29 Per discussione Frankie
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Heather/Femme
Sent: Friday, 29 August 2003 6:31 AM
To: Newbie
Subject: Re: [newbie] Win XP


On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 01:34, Lee Wiggers wrote:
 I just bought a Dell Inspiron 1100.

 Reading all lately on the dual boot problems w/winxp, I have to ask:

 Is there any reason to keep winxp on the computer?  I own a
win2k that seems to work just fine.  Can't I nuke the drive, put
win2k on first and then 9.1 like I just did with the old Toshiba laptop?

 Something satisfying about giving BG the one finger salute, anyway.

 My business requires that I have winsomething for now, but that
too will pass.

 Lee


FWIW, i like xp better than 2k.  And yes you can do that.

FlyingFemme

Win XP is just windows 2000 with Eye candy and a couple of new tools..

In some ways its better, in others not.. (hardware requirements went up
when XP came out)

But the tradeoff is an even more restrictive license then Win2000, and the
fact that they give themself permission to look around your hard drive and
load whatever they see fit..

Is the tradeoff worth it?


rgds

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Re: [newbie] Compaq is just plain weird [Closed]

2003-08-29 Per discussione Inhabitant of Zion
  Lesson: Never, ever, even if it is *free*, use a Compaq, if you have
  *any other alternative*.
 

LOL! Sounds like the *experience* I had with a Compaq 5000 workstation. No
matter what I did I could not get Mandrake 9.1 to run properly on it.  

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Re: [newbie] Paraniod - start worrying

2003-08-29 Per discussione Michael Adams
 
 The question wasn't whether there was a virus/worm/trojan problem
 similar to Windoze, the OP was asking if there was any indication of a
 worm infecting linux, which there clearly is.
 
 t

Sorry, as the original poster, i was presenting what i saw as an oddity, no more. I 
watch the given website for upcoming virus threats and this was posted as an upgraded 
one. I warned paranoids to hide under the blanket with my unclear heading. I beleive 
the perceived threat is a tool that could be misused to enable DOS attacks from 
linux.

As to the number and range of linux effecting threats:
http://www.viruslist.com/eng/viruslistfind.html?rub4=001findWhere=findTxt=linuxx=30y=14

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RE: [newbie] XFS Mount

2003-08-29 Per discussione Tony S. Sykes
I was disappointed with the bit torrent speed too. I have used it before
for other downloads and it was fast. For some reason the Mandrake iso's
were slow, and like Tom said the upload for other people was better. I
stopped after an hour as I had 36 hours left on one iso (and growing)
and did it from an ftp server instead. All 3 iso's in 6 hours.

Tony.

-Original Message-
From: Tom Brinkman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 5:38 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] XFS Mount


On Wednesday August 27 2003 12:13 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
 Tom Brinkman wrote:
 On Tuesday August 26 2003 09:54 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
 Miark wrote:
 It's possible the old mount setting in fstab is still active.
 Have you checked mtab to make sure the partition isn't already
 mounted?
 
 Miark
 
 There are no entries for either drive in mtab.
 
mtab is generated from fstab, an shouldn't be fooled with
 
Brant, try puttin your 1st CD in an check the partitions with
  the installers diskdrake. It could be that when you used
  diskdrake the changes were never made, or the partitions were
  never formatted for XFS, an they're still ReiserFS. Probly
  cause the partitions weren't unmounted. Also, with either
  ReiserFS or XFS, Civileme use to suggest a ext3 /boot
  partition. IME, it was/is good advice.

 I did exactly that and that is what I found.  I posted my
 findings to the expert list last evening.  I forgot to post them
 here as well.

Well, jeez, I had that notion when you first posted the problem, 
but with the chronology mismatches in the lists, I often see 
responses before the original problem ;(  So I was a little 
reluctant to jump in, since I was only seein others diagnosis of 
the problem. No sooner than I hit 'send', I saw a reply from you 
that you'd figured it out by yourself.  Good for you ;)

I don't believe it's a diskdrake bug tho. MOF, it's a feature to 
safeguard still mounted partitions. The only bug would be that 
diskdrake didn't tell you that nothin was done to disk, since the 
partitions weren't successfully unmounted to be reformatted. An I 
believe the developers are already aware of, an workin on that. 
I've been aware that diskdrake runnin from CD is much better than 
foolin with it on the booted system. Actually that's the resolution 
IMO, just always use diskdrake from the 1st CD.  Then it's 
bulletproof ;)

IIRC, you're runnin cooker. FWIW, RC1 iso's look like they're
 comin to the mirrors today. The beta2 iso's are gone, and so far
 the RC1 md5sum file is posted. So maybe ya want to wait for
  those before fixin your partitions.

 I saw that.

 Warly, from Mandrakesoft, released the bittorrent info for them:

 btdownloadheadless.py --url
 http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/torrent/MandrakeLinux-9.2rc1-CD1.i586.
iso.torrent --saveas MandrakeLinux-9.2rc1-CD1.i586.iso

Yeah an bittorrent sux for me. That's why I bitched'n moaned on 
the cooker list to get the iso's posted to ftp. bittsux has been 
workin on CD2  3 for almost 20 hours now, about 50% done. I've 
never been much of a p2p fan.  Now I'm fixin to be an enemy of it.
I shortened the url an took a look at the site first. All 3 iso's 
were there. Soon after I pasted Warly's CL into a term, it dawned 
on me the if I just changed the 1 to a 2 after both 'CD's, I could 
start a CD2 'torrent' (what'a misnomer). Same with 3.

OTOH, we all need to get along, so I'm letin all three iso's to 
be uploaded from my connection. Even tho I'm givin far more than 
gettin. I'm gettin tired of Mandrake's increasing games as releases 
get closer to final tho. I was only amused when they resorted to 
false names for iso's, but this bitchtorrent method really sux.

   At least my complaint (maybe?) got Warly to post the 1st CD. It 
was d/l'd and burned within the hour. I only need the damn things 
for backup anyhow, and to take a look at the installer. I'm already 
past RC1. Be even further if the primary mirror (sunsite) ever 
straightens out.
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Re: [newbie] Linux Apps - Firewalls

2003-08-29 Per discussione John Richard Smith
Bryan Phinney wrote:

On Thursday 28 August 2003 03:14 pm, rikona wrote:

 





Hey, if I was running a bank with no vault, no security guard in the building, 
no alarms and no way to stop someone from walking out with the money, and the 
only security that I did have was a locked door, it would be a VERY BIG, 
THICK DOOR.  I mean, if you are only going to build one wall between you and 
the enemy, it is probably going to be a pretty big wall.

Sorry for the long message, I get carried away sometimes.  ;-}

 

Bryan,

Can I ask you a question,

Am I paranoid for not wanting to enable cookies ?

you know, from the security point of view ?

John

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[newbie] OT, Where to find a SUSE ISO ?

2003-08-29 Per discussione Heather/Femme
I've scoured hte net somewhat  came up empty for getting a Suse ISO
which isn't the Live - Eval version.  Also if it doesn't exist can
someone point me to a Manual or url or something on how to burn (with
k3b likely) a cd with all of Suses packages on it  that it be bootable.

Instructions off list are fine.  

Ty one  all for your help. :)

Femminux

PS:  off or onlist can you share your experiences with Suse please?  I
would love to hear any feedback about it.  Iknow nothin about suse but
want to try it just for fun.  And cause I enjoy reinsatlling. :D  I'm a
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[newbie] How is SCO like Martha Stewart?

2003-08-29 Per discussione HaywireMac

http://newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=03/08/27/2323256

Quote:

One way in which some SCO employees are extracting value is from SCO's
lofty stock price. SCO was trading at a near 52-week high of $14.36 on
August 27, and company executives have been selling stock. John Ferrell,
founding partner of Carr  Ferrell, LLP, a Silicon Valley intellectual
property and corporate law firm, was interested to see that SCO
insiders [the other] week were selling SCO stock at greatly inflated
prices. If in fact IBM has misappropriated and infringed SCO code, SCO
shareholders will deservedly be handsomely compensated. If, however, we
come to learn that SCO management is falsely creating turmoil in this
struggling tech economy for the purpose of jacking and dumping their
stock; SCO's legal troubles will be just beginning.

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Re: [newbie] Anyone know of an icq type app taht is decent?

2003-08-29 Per discussione Heather/Femme
On Fri, 2003-08-29 at 00:18, Inhabitant of Zion wrote:
  
  Invisble means only select ppl can see you online. your status is
  hidden  as offline to ppl not on your visible list.  Make sense?
  
  Fem
  
 
 Hi
 
 I use Kopete and I can confirm that you can do this with that program.

Really...hm how hard is it to use... good gui  file share handling?

ty i will look for it John!  you'e a doll luv :)

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Re: [newbie] Compaq is just plain weird [Closed]

2003-08-29 Per discussione HaywireMac
On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 09:07:22 +0100
Inhabitant of Zion [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 LOL! Sounds like the *experience* I had with a Compaq 5000
 workstation. No matter what I did I could not get Mandrake 9.1 to run
 properly on it. 

I won't say what I would do to a Compaq rep were he/she to walk into
this room right now, as I do not want to reignite that whole
gun-control thing...

Oh hell, I'd put a .303 right in their freakin' kneecaps!

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[newbie] Fw: MDKSA-2003:075-1 - Updated apache2 packages fix multiplevulnerabilities

2003-08-29 Per discussione HaywireMac

Just in case (a fine fellow, very good at pick-up-sticks) anyone doesn't
subscribe to these:


Begin forwarded message:

Date: 29 Aug 2003 05:14:52 -
From: Mandrake Linux Security Team [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: MDKSA-2003:075-1 - Updated apache2 packages fix multiple
vulnerabilities


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Hash: SHA1



Mandrake Linux Security Update Advisory


Package name:   apache2
Advisory ID:MDKSA-2003:075-1
Date:   August 28th, 2003
Original Advisory Date: July 21st, 2003
Affected versions:  9.1


Problem Description:

 Several vulnerabilities were discovered in Apache 2.x versions prior to
 2.0.47.  From the Apache 2.0.47 release notes:
 
 Certain sequences of per-directory renegotiations and the
 SSLCipherSuite directive being used to upgrade from a weak ciphersuite
 to a strong one could result in the weak ciphersuite being used in
 place of the new one (CAN-2003-0192).
 
 Certain errors returned by accept() on rarely accessed ports could
 cause temporary Denial of Service due to a bug in the prefork MPM
 (CAN-2003-0253).
 
 Denial of Service was caused when target host is IPv6 but FTP proxy
 server can't create IPv6 socket (CAN-2003-0254).
 
 The server would crash when going into an infinite loop due to too many
 subsequent internal redirects and nested subrequests (VU#379828).
 
 The Apache Software Foundation thanks Saheed Akhtar and Yoshioka Tsuneo
 for responsibly reporting these issues.
 
 To upgrade these apache packages, first stop Apache by issuing, as
 root:
 
   service httpd stop
 
 After the upgrade, restart Apache with:
 
   service httpd start
  
Update:

 The previously released packages had a manpage conflict between
 apache2-common and apache-1.3 that prevented both packages from being
 installed at the same time.  This update provides a fixed
 apache2-common package.


References:
  
  http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CAN-2003-0192
  http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CAN-2003-0253
  http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CAN-2003-0254
  http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/379828
  http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=bugtraqm=105259038503175


Updated Packages:
  
 Mandrake Linux 9.1:
 3102c711e9c801009e54cb3b1ea89c11 
9.1/RPMS/apache2-common-2.0.47-1.2mdk.i586.rpm
 121bf6143709f1e6261bc041230e1b85 
9.1/SRPMS/apache2-2.0.47-1.2mdk.src.rpm

 Mandrake Linux 9.1/PPC:
 dc55704a8c82e088d95958ef31b38925 
ppc/9.1/RPMS/apache2-common-2.0.47-1.2mdk.ppc.rpm
 121bf6143709f1e6261bc041230e1b85 
ppc/9.1/SRPMS/apache2-2.0.47-1.2mdk.src.rpm


Bug IDs fixed (see https://qa.mandrakesoft.com for more information):


To upgrade automatically, use MandrakeUpdate or urpmi.  The verification
of md5 checksums and GPG signatures is performed automatically for you.

A list of FTP mirrors can be obtained from:

  http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/ftp.php

All packages are signed by MandrakeSoft for security.  You can obtain
the GPG public key of the Mandrake Linux Security Team by executing:

  gpg --recv-keys --keyserver www.mandrakesecure.net 0x22458A98

Please be aware that sometimes it takes the mirrors a few hours to
update.

You can view other update advisories for Mandrake Linux at:

  http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/advisories/

MandrakeSoft has several security-related mailing list services that
anyone can subscribe to.  Information on these lists can be obtained by
visiting:

  http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/mlist.php

If you want to report vulnerabilities, please contact

  security_linux-mandrake.com

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Re: [newbie] Win XP

2003-08-29 Per discussione HaywireMac
On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 15:52:36 +0800
Frankie [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 But the tradeoff is an even more restrictive license then Win2000, and
 the fact that they give themself permission to look around your hard
 drive and load whatever they see fit..

Not to mention that it is responsible for a large part of the hellacious
problems on the 'net these days (not you Femme, I am quite sure you are
firewalled, patched, etc.) because of Raw Sockets and unpatched IIS
servers and...and...and...

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Re: [newbie] Linux Apps - Firewalls

2003-08-29 Per discussione John Richard Smith
Bryan Phinney wrote:

On Thursday 28 August 2003 03:14 pm, rikona wrote:

 





Hey, if I was running a bank with no vault, no security guard in the building, 
no alarms and no way to stop someone from walking out with the money, and the 
only security that I did have was a locked door, it would be a VERY BIG, 
THICK DOOR.  I mean, if you are only going to build one wall between you and 
the enemy, it is probably going to be a pretty big wall.

Sorry for the long message, I get carried away sometimes.  ;-}

 

Bryan,

Can I ask you a question,

Am I paranoid for not wanting to enable cookies ?

you know, from the security point of view ?

John

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Re: [newbie] OT, Where to find a SUSE ISO ?

2003-08-29 Per discussione JM5379
the last i heard, Suse doesn't distribute their distro for free,
other than the eval cd... you want it, you will buy it.  though i
do seem to vaguely remember that you can get older releases here
and there.  good luck.

joe


--- Original Message ---
From: Heather/Femme [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] OT, Where to find a SUSE ISO ?

I've scoured hte net somewhat  came up empty for getting a Suse ISO
which isn't the Live - Eval version.  Also if it doesn't exist can
someone point me to a Manual or url or something on how to burn
(with
k3b likely) a cd with all of Suses packages on it  that it be
bootable.

Instructions off list are fine.  

Ty one  all for your help. :)

Femminux

PS:  off or onlist can you share your experiences with Suse
please?  I
would love to hear any feedback about it.  Iknow nothin about
suse but
want to try it just for fun.  And cause I enjoy reinsatlling. :D
 I'm a
pro at that though, so kids don't try installing at home! 







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Re: [newbie] Linux Apps - Firewalls

2003-08-29 Per discussione Sharrea Day
On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 10:46, Heather/Femme wrote:
 Seen all this.  ZA got smart, it generates an encrypted sig file for
 itself now.  Makes sure it can't be compromised either... and it is not
 easily killed in newer versions.  Sides, that kind of attack is pretty
 sophisticated  the avg ZA user won't be affected.  Yes its possible it
 will get thru...but if you see ZA isn't in your tray anymore wouldn't
 you be suspicious?  I know I would.

Sure hope ZA is a lot smarter these days.

Two years ago my Win system was compromised simply by clicking a link on a 
web page in IE.  ZA was disabled but still showing as active in the system 
tray, the packet sniffer I had running crashed and the AV app was totally 
fsckd.  A file containing web passwords was emptied and a pretty 
screensaver was installed which kept appearing every minute.  That was the 
day I decided to see what this Linux was all about and I've never looked 
back since.

Not that ZA can really help much in those situations.  Clicking on the link 
merely ran the script as the one-and-only user on Win98SE.  I feel much 
safer in Linux browsing the web as user (not root) - although sometimes I 
wonder why, when the most important stuff on my system in MY DATA.  
Couldn't give a sh*t 'bout the system, it can be restored, my data can't.  
At least the stuff that hasn't been backed up.  Don't get me wrong, I'm not 
complaining - I LOVE LINUX!

Oh now paranoia is creeping in... off to do a much overdue backup...  I 
swear I'm getting lazier.

Sharrea
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RE: [newbie] Linux Apps - Firewalls

2003-08-29 Per discussione Frankie
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Richard Smith
Sent: Friday, 29 August 2003 6:36 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux Apps - Firewalls


Bryan Phinney wrote:

On Thursday 28 August 2003 03:14 pm, rikona wrote:







Hey, if I was running a bank with no vault, no security guard in
the building,
no alarms and no way to stop someone from walking out with the
money, and the
only security that I did have was a locked door, it would be a VERY BIG,
THICK DOOR.  I mean, if you are only going to build one wall
between you and
the enemy, it is probably going to be a pretty big wall.

Sorry for the long message, I get carried away sometimes.  ;-}



Bryan,

Can I ask you a question,

Am I paranoid for not wanting to enable cookies ?

you know, from the security point of view ?

John

--

FRANKI:

Disabling cookies outright is generally a bad idea..
I prefer to block any cookies with expiry dates that are over a week in the
future.
Also, I block any cookies coming from domains different from the page you
are on.

If you disable all cookies, many interactive pages will not work properly
if at all, like shopping carts, and many other similiar scripts.

I also set any cookies from doubleclick and the other spam/add
organisations to blocked.

rgds

franki






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Re: [newbie] OT, Where to find a SUSE ISO ?

2003-08-29 Per discussione HaywireMac
On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 07:42:45 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 the last i heard, Suse doesn't distribute their distro for free,
 other than the eval cd... you want it, you will buy it.  though i
 do seem to vaguely remember that you can get older releases here
 and there.  good luck.

coughMLDonkeycough

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Re: [newbie] Linux Apps - Firewalls

2003-08-29 Per discussione Anne Wilson
On Friday 29 Aug 2003 12:46 pm, Sharrea Day wrote:

 Not that ZA can really help much in those situations.  Clicking on
 the link merely ran the script as the one-and-only user on Win98SE.
  I feel much safer in Linux browsing the web as user (not root) -
 although sometimes I wonder why, when the most important stuff on
 my system in MY DATA. Couldn't give a sh*t 'bout the system, it can
 be restored, my data can't. At least the stuff that hasn't been
 backed up.  Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining - I LOVE LINUX!

I do feel that the stress on linux security is sometimes misguided.  
Like you, I feel my data is the most important bit, and that's the 
part that a virus could trash if it could get in.  I know it still 
has to get in, but once in it could run as user, I guess.  When you 
combine that with the fact that linux is so stable that we forget the 
need for regular backups, it's time to worry.

Under windows I had a rigid backup routine.  Now I am careless, and it 
can be weeks in between.  And I'll bet I'm not alone.

 Oh now paranoia is creeping in... off to do a much overdue
 backup...  I swear I'm getting lazier.

Yup - me too.  I'll do one today.

Anne

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Re: [newbie] Linux Apps - Firewalls

2003-08-29 Per discussione HaywireMac
On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 20:10:43 +0800
Frankie [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 Disabling cookies outright is generally a bad idea..
 I prefer to block any cookies with expiry dates that are over a week
 in the future.
 Also, I block any cookies coming from domains different from the page
 you are on.
 
 If you disable all cookies, many interactive pages will not work
 properly if at all, like shopping carts, and many other similiar
 scripts.
 
 I also set any cookies from doubleclick and the other spam/add
 organisations to blocked.

Actually, that's something I've never really thought about. What are the
potential dangers with cookies, besides someone knowing what sites I
visit. I don't visit any porn sites, so no chance of embarassment, not
that I'd give a rat's ass anyway, but what other threats are there?


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Re: [newbie] Overclock!

2003-08-29 Per discussione Ronald J. Hall
On Thursday 28 August 2003 05:20 pm, Heather/Femme wrote:

 Ran your cpuburn...but couldn't for the life of me get gkrellm to show
 me any temps.  Said it couldn't fnd any.

Did you (as root) run sensors-detect and follow the instructions first?
Gkrellm uses lmsensors for its data.

 all I did was: cpuburn -60 (ran it 60Mins) it came out fine.

 I hope thats how you use it...I read the readme..thats all it said to
 do.

 FemmesStoned(again)

That doesn't sound like the cpuburn I used. Its commands are:

burnBX   burnK6   burnMMX  burnP5   burnP6

depending on what CPU you are using.

I got mine from the Mandrake CDs. The package was named:

cpuburn-1.4-3mdk

Just do a urpmi cpuburn Femme - it should work.

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Re: [newbie] Overclock! - or how to overlook the obvious

2003-08-29 Per discussione Anne Wilson
Well I got a full health check from my supplier, and he also could 
find nothing wrong with the hardware.  Since it could happen with 
nothing at all open in windows and my granddaughter actually out of 
the room it seemed fairly safe to say that it probably wasn't 
software.  I checked out whether the power supply fan could be 
blasting against a barrier, but that wasn't the problem, so I talked 
to the tech guy about any other factors that I may have missed.  He 
said that the only thing he could think of that I hadn't covered was 
dirty power - possible spikes.  On checking I find she doesn't have 
any surge protection fitted, so could it be the washing machine 
changing to spin cycle?  I think it could, so it's out to buy surge 
protection now.

All of this has made me wonder if it is something similar that's 
causing my router box to go haywire, too.  That is not properly 
protected either, so I guess it's time to go through the whole lan 
and see what else isn't covered before I shop.

Just thought it might be a useful thought to anyone else 
troubleshooting.

Anne

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Re: [newbie] Linux Apps - Firewalls

2003-08-29 Per discussione HaywireMac
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 18:46:20 -0400
Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 Sorry for the long message, I get carried away sometimes.  ;-}

No problemo, I enjoyed every minute of it, and gained a greater
understanding of security along the way.

I wholeheartedly agree with your perspective, esp. the idea that you
have to differentiate between something like a firewall *app* and a real
firewall, one that cannot be compromised like any other app.

ZoneAlarm and it's like are probably the best the average windows user
can do, excepting of course the installation of a dedicated firewall
and/or proxy, but not everybody has an extra box just lying around.

For anyone that does, I highly recommend that you start tinkering. You
do *not* need big-shot hardware, and old P90 like I have will do the
trick quite nicely, and in some cases you don't even need to have a
harddrive in it. There are floppy-based distros like BBIAgent, which I
use and has never let me down (SYN flood and spoofing protection, full
stealth mode for the truly paranoid, where even pings and/or ICMP
requests are ignored/dropped, and of course port forwarding so only
the ports you specify are even visible). For more robust sol'ns (HD
reqr'd), there is of course Mandrake, which you can configure as a
dedicated firewall, but there are lighter and more specified sol'ns like
Smoothwall, ClarkConnect, etc.

The other advantage to having a dedicated firewall/router/NAT is that it
manages your internet connection and LAN for you, so you never have to
worry about configuring your PPPoE or whatever connection, they do it
for you, and they automagically hand out network configurations to all
your clients, so no messing with DNS, IP, etc.

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Re: [newbie] Linux Apps - Firewalls

2003-08-29 Per discussione John Richard Smith
HaywireMac wrote:

On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 20:10:43 +0800
Frankie [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
 

Disabling cookies outright is generally a bad idea..
I prefer to block any cookies with expiry dates that are over a week
in the future.
Also, I block any cookies coming from domains different from the page
you are on.
If you disable all cookies, many interactive pages will not work
properly if at all, like shopping carts, and many other similiar
scripts.
I also set any cookies from doubleclick and the other spam/add
organisations to blocked.
   

Actually, that's something I've never really thought about. What are the
potential dangers with cookies, besides someone knowing what sites I
visit. I don't visit any porn sites, so no chance of embarassment, not
that I'd give a rat's ass anyway, but what other threats are there?
 

Isn't it a way in for virus writers to get inside your protection systems ?
How safe is a cookie directory ?
And in anycase why do we want to let other folk plant things on our hard 
drive.
Sure some email stores insist on having cookies enabled ,else they will 
not let you shop. Hard luck for them, go some place else, that do let 
you sho without enabling cookies.

John

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Re: [newbie] OT, Where to find a SUSE ISO ?

2003-08-29 Per discussione JM5379
sucrets for the cough

lack_of_exposure
i've seen mldonkey referenced but have no idea what it actually is
/lack_of_exposure


--- Original Message ---
From: HaywireMac [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] OT, Where to find a SUSE ISO ?

On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 07:42:45 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 the last i heard, Suse doesn't distribute their distro for free,
 other than the eval cd... you want it, you will buy it.  though i
 do seem to vaguely remember that you can get older releases here
 and there.  good luck.

coughMLDonkeycough

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Re: [newbie] OT, Where to find a SUSE ISO ?

2003-08-29 Per discussione Kaj Haulrich
On Friday 29 August 2003 12:42 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 the last i heard, Suse doesn't distribute their distro for
 free, other than the eval cd... you want it, you will buy it. 
 though i do seem to vaguely remember that you can get older
 releases here and there.  good luck.

 joe

No, I don't think S.u.S.E. have iso's available for download, but 
you can install directly from their FTP server. That is, if 
you've got a lot of bandwidth. Try here :

ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/current/

You'll need to download boot/boot.img or something like that in 
order to begin the installation. Take a look at the  README.

HTH

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Re: [newbie] Linux Apps - Firewalls

2003-08-29 Per discussione HaywireMac
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 21:55:48 -0700
Russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 Hi All,
 
 Thanks for the responses.

Hell, this is the best thread we've had in a long time, thank *you* for
starting it!

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Re: [newbie] OT, Where to find a SUSE ISO ?

2003-08-29 Per discussione HaywireMac
On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 14:14:36 +
Kaj Haulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 No, I don't think S.u.S.E. have iso's available for download, but 
 you can install directly from their FTP server. That is, if 
 you've got a lot of bandwidth. Try here :
 
 ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/current/
 
 You'll need to download boot/boot.img or something like that in 
 order to begin the installation. Take a look at the  README.

Well, yes, that would be the *legit* way, I only meant that it was
*possible* to get the ISO's the other way, not actually condoning it
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[newbie] mandrake 9.2 rc1

2003-08-29 Per discussione Anarky
   would somebody please point me to some website or something 
explaingin me how the Mandrake versions go and how to get the latest 
version. Now I'm starting downloading 9.2 rc1 .. but what does that 
mean? I know there is beta 1  2 .. which I know what it means .. but 
what does rc1 mean? is that a final? And many people are talking about 
'cooker version' .. what is that?


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Re: [newbie] Linux Apps - Firewalls

2003-08-29 Per discussione Bryan Phinney
On Friday 29 August 2003 06:35 am, John Richard Smith wrote:

 Bryan,

 Can I ask you a question,

 Am I paranoid for not wanting to enable cookies ?

 you know, from the security point of view ?

 John

Not wanting to have cookies enabled does not make you paranoid, but that 
doesn't mean that you aren't.  ;-}

Since a lot of sites do offer content that relies on cookies to work and there 
is some convenience factor involved in having cookies, I do enable them on my 
machine but have Opera discard them after each browser session.  That way, I 
gain the convenience of having the content and session persistence that 
cookies deliver but at the same time, there is no possibility of long-term 
tracking of my surfing habits.

I consider it a moderate middle-road.

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Re: [newbie] calendar

2003-08-29 Per discussione H.J.Bathoorn
On Friday 29 August 2003 16:09, Anarky wrote:
 Can you tell me of a linux app which would show me a calendar?
If you're  using KDE, just click on the time at the bottom-right (usually) 
of your desktop and presto!

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Re: [newbie] Overclock!

2003-08-29 Per discussione Tom Brinkman
On Thursday August 28 2003 04:25 pm, Heather/Femme wrote:
 On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 13:21, Tom Brinkman wrote:
 snip

  run the appropriate 'burn' module on your
  (her) system, it's not stable IMO.  Many store bought (ready
  made) computers won't pass. Any laptop surely won't. There's no
  reportin, the system either stays up or fails. Usually just a
  spontaneous reboot.  CPU temp monitoring durin the test is
  almost imperative. If it gets too high, Ctrl+C will abort the
  test.
 
  For ready mades an laptops, I'd suggest a lengthly run of
  mprime-17, the torture test. That's as close as you'll get.
  These tools, mprime an cpuburn, are old overclockers tools to
  test stability. Not really a check for Winblows faults.

 Hm...just went to the link you provided... I used a diff cpuburn
 program I guess.

 I found it originally thru google IIRC here:

 http://users.bigpond.net.au/cpuburn/

 is that not the same program!?

 Confuzzled Femme

'urpmi cpuburn'  The Mandrake rpm is on your CD's and on the 
mirrors. cpuburn-1.4-4mdk
[tom /tom] $ burn
burnBX   burnK6   burnK7   burnMMX  burnP5   burnP6

 IIRC, you've got a Intel cpu, so use 'burnP6'
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Re[2]: [newbie] Linux Apps - Firewalls

2003-08-29 Per discussione rikona
Hello Bryan,

Thursday, August 28, 2003, 3:46:20 PM, you wrote:

BP Requires some hardware but this is doable.  Simply run a proxy
BP server on a dedicated machine, in the router or ipchains using
BP netfilter, allow only that  machine's IP to initiate http traffic
BP on port 80 and then all the local  machines have to be configured
BP to use the proxy server.  Now, local machines  can't surf at will,
BP they must go through the proxy server and you can make  the port
BP of that whatever you want.

If I understand you, each local machine would have to use a non-80
port to surf, with the translation done by the proxy. I'm then
assuming, say, Mozilla would have to be set up to use a non-80 port to
get to the proxy. Otherwise any app on the machine could use port 80.
You are, in effect, blocking port 80 from any local machine. Is this
correct?

Interesting idea - I'd like to make sure I understand it.

BP Personally, I think that this level of security appears to be wildly 
BP overrated.  It appears, to me, that someone is trying to solve a Windows 
BP problem in Linux.

Windows users are giving us a glimpse of the future, should linux be
used by the masses. I'm just trying to get ready. :-))) Also, much of
the functionality is for privacy, not just security.

BP First, if you are installing applications that you are unsure of,
BP you have far  greater security issues than simply whether some
BP malware is phoning home.

In general, agreed.

BP Open Source apps make it very difficult to create little one off
BP scumware applications, trojans too.

As linux gets more popular, some deviant will take an app, add some
malware, and create easy-to-get-and-use or otherwise attractive lures
to get people to load it. Apparently this has already been done for
some 'reputable' distribution apps in linux. Some folks are inherently
evil.

BP Second, a lot of this debate is modified by the kind of threat
BP that we want  to guard against.  The SoBig.F and other types of
BP worms do not use port 80 to  communicate, in most cases they have
BP built in smtp or IRC servers that can  broadcast.  You need some
BP mechanism that can initiate its own connection and  traffic, not
BP something that would be fighting with the browser to send
BP packets.  In short, they run their own services so that they do
BP not have to  depend on the user to initiate communication.

Agreed. Recent malware is increasingly using this technique -
unfortunately too easy to do in M$ virusware.

BP Creating a new service, in the Linux environment,

BP And, there are still many ways to guard against that

Agreed - it is comfortingly harder.

BP If the application is a scumware (advertisement sort), it would inevitably be 
BP installed as part of the browser, so a plugin for Mozilla, Netscape, etc.

That's why i don't like the idea of plugins - a foot in the door for
the let-anything-do-anything approach that causes so many problems
with M$. But it is not inevitable...

BP It  won't be a standalone application because it needs to monitor
BP http traffic so  that it can track usage for delivering ads.  That
BP is its sole value.

Not necessarily. There is money to be made in selling information
about people. Even if logged on as just a user, I'd guess all your
personal is there - email, contact lists, on-line banking info,
history files of where you surfed, tax info, calendars, cookie files,
perhaps even some info about account names and passwords. Snoopware
might like to collect this and send it 'back home'. There's more than
just ads. Just putting a name and address onto an extensive cookie
history is worth a lot.

These are more like privacy issues rather than 'security'.  If you
want to address both, you should use different tools and techniques.
It is a different problem.

BP If it is installed as a plugin, like most scumware in IE, then the
BP app-aware firewall is useless because it would  already have
BP permission to phone home as part of Mozilla or whatever browser
BP it is part of.

True. Good ol Javascript is ready to snoop on you.

BP So, if I were going to create something of this nature, I can't do it open 
BP source because someone would rat me out almost immediately, provided I could 
BP even get someone to install it, for even good applications it takes time to 
BP build recognition in the Linux community.

Perhaps the scenario is to take the open source code and add some more
open source code for snooping, etc, and distribute the package. And,
no, the author of this malware is not likely to publish the code, open
source or not.

BP with all of the different flavors of Linux and the fact that we
BP still don't even have a  common installation package mechanism, I
BP don't think it is very likely.

One of the most attractive ways to distribute malware is to package
supposedly known code for all these versions. See how much trouble
I've saved you - it's ready to go in YOUR rpm. Looks attractive to
many, and they'll get it.

BP If this type 

Re[2]: [newbie] Linux Apps - Firewalls

2003-08-29 Per discussione rikona
Hello HaywireMac,

Thursday, August 28, 2003, 5:13:16 PM, you wrote:

 As I understand it. There is nothing to stop a virus reconfiguring
 ZoneAlarm so it is undetected.

H Exactly.

But this is an OS problem, not a ZA problem. Let's give discredit where
it's due. :-)

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RE: [newbie] Firewall Oddities

2003-08-29 Per discussione Brandon Vanderberg
Take a look at the two-nic firewall sample config.
It is substantially different from the one-nic config that many use.
I bet you'll find the issue there.

On a side note, the configs are very simple. Since I got familiar with them,
I haven't gone back to the MCC for firewall management.

HTH
Brandon

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 Subject: [newbie] Firewall Oddities


 I'm having some interesting happenings using the Firewall utility in
 MCC.  I'm using a laptop that has both a wireless card, as well as a
 wired NIC.  My wireless works just fine until I try to turn on the
 firewall.  As soon as I do, the firewall effectively blocks all
 connections with my wireless card.  The only way I can access the
 outside world with the firewall on is by connecting to a wired network.
   Running ifconfig shows that my wireless card is eth1 and my NIC is
 eth0.  Any suggestions on what I can do to get the firewall to play
 nicely with my wireless card?

 Thanks!

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Re: [newbie] OT, Where to find a SUSE ISO ?

2003-08-29 Per discussione James R. McKenzie
Fem,

I have version 8.2 (bought it at Best Buy, it's the $39.99
version) I'd be glad to burn you a copy of the disks @ 20 cents a
disk plus shipping to your location.

I'd like it more if it saw my modem but then again Mandrake can't
either.  Only Redhat (since RHL 7.2) can see it.  I've basically
tried all of the distros and even Free BSD.  Can do spit with Free
BSD.  ;-{

Oh well, if you are interested lemme know.

Back into lurker mode.

 T H A N K  Y O U

  James R. McKenzie

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Subject: [newbie] OT, Where to find a SUSE ISO ?


 I've scoured hte net somewhat  came up empty for getting a Suse
ISO
 which isn't the Live - Eval version.  Also if it doesn't exist
can
 someone point me to a Manual or url or something on how to burn
(with
 k3b likely) a cd with all of Suses packages on it  that it be
bootable.

 Instructions off list are fine.

 Ty one  all for your help. :)

 Femminux

 PS:  off or onlist can you share your experiences with Suse
please?  I
 would love to hear any feedback about it.  Iknow nothin about
suse but
 want to try it just for fun.  And cause I enjoy reinsatlling. :D
I'm a
 pro at that though, so kids don't try installing at home!







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Re[2]: [newbie] Linux Apps - Firewalls

2003-08-29 Per discussione rikona
Hello HaywireMac,

Friday, August 29, 2003, 5:20:17 AM, you wrote:

H I wholeheartedly agree with your perspective, esp. the idea that
H you have to differentiate between something like a firewall *app*
H and a real firewall, one that cannot be compromised like any other
H app.

Is an apple better than an orange?

Again let me suggest that it is not an either/or situation. They are
both useful for different tasks and capabilities and should be used
together. Each can do things the other can't. Think through the
advantages of using both tools and you might see the utility of having
both. The combo can be much more effective than either by itself.

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Re[2]: [newbie] Linux Apps - Firewalls

2003-08-29 Per discussione rikona
Hello John,

Friday, August 29, 2003, 6:39:56 AM, you wrote:

JRS Isn't it a way in for virus writers to get inside your protection
JRS systems ?

If you have an OS problem, as does M$ with their infamous buffer
overruns, then yes. (Ignoring social hacking, of course.) Otherwise,
the 'virus' is limited to what can be done in, say, javascript.

JRS How safe is a cookie directory ?

The dir is OK, as are the contents, from a security view. From a
privacy view, it might have a great deal of info about you. Users who
do nothing about cookies and surf for years may have HUGE quantities
of cookies. One could learn quite a lot about you from analyzing those
cookies. Such detailed dossiers are worth money.

JRS And in anycase why do we want to let other folk plant things on
JRS our hard  drive.

In general, we don't.

JRS Sure some email stores insist on having cookies enabled ,else
JRS they will  not let you shop. Hard luck for them, go some place
JRS else, that do let  you sho without enabling cookies.

Cookies are very likely required for almost all shopping. Keeping a
cookie for a short shopping session is probably not a high risk - just
get rid of it when you're done. In Opera, for example, you can flush
all cookies automatically at the end of a session.

This assumes a trustworthy site, of course. Some merchants can't
resist the extra income from selling your info, though. Beware of
cookies on supposedly secure pages, for example. JS can read your
personal info and send it back to the advertiser, and the merchant
collects a fee. Advertisers are especially interested in this because
it provides a 'face' to the 'non-personal' info in your huge cookie
collection - now they know exactly whose name to put on the dossier.

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[newbie] Ethereal for Mandrake 9

2003-08-29 Per discussione Nurv
Can someone tell me where I can find a copy of ethereal for Mandrake? I 
looked on the cooker site, which is where Ethereal tells you to go, but 
I can find the file(s). Any help would be great.

Thx,
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[newbie] Blank Screen

2003-08-29 Per discussione Sendak, John
I am running Mandrake 9.1. I left my machine on with Mandrake doing nothing.
I came back after about 30 minutes to find that the screen was totally
blank. Moving the mouse had no effect.
Not getting any response at all, and not knowing what to do, I pressed the
off button and then rebooted the machine. I am glad to say that Mandrake
repaired itself, but what should I have done ?

Regards

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Re: [newbie] Ethereal for Mandrake 9

2003-08-29 Per discussione Tom Brinkman
On Friday August 29 2003 11:03 am, Nurv wrote:
 Can someone tell me where I can find a copy of ethereal for
 Mandrake? I looked on the cooker site, which is where Ethereal
 tells you to go, but I can find the file(s). Any help would be
 great.

 Thx,
 Nurv..

 ethereal-0.9.13-1mdk  should be on the cooker mirrors. If 
you're gonna try a cooker package tho, get the src.rpm and rebuild 
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Re: [newbie] Blank Screen

2003-08-29 Per discussione Anguo
On ¬P´Á¤» 30 ¤K¤ë 2003 00:19, Sendak, John wrote:
 I am running Mandrake 9.1. I left my machine on with
 Mandrake doing nothing. I came back after about 30
 minutes to find that the screen was totally blank. Moving
 the mouse had no effect.

Hello John,

It may have been the screen saver, though it doesn't seem to 
be properly configured. Moving the mouse would not have 
been enough to awaken your system (?). Try pressing a key 
on the keyboard next time.

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Re: [newbie] Win XP

2003-08-29 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 17:34, Lee Wiggers wrote:
 I just bought a Dell Inspiron 1100.
 
 Reading all lately on the dual boot problems w/winxp, I have to ask:
 
 Is there any reason to keep winxp on the computer?  I own a win2k that seems to work 
 just fine.  Can't I nuke the drive, put win2k on first and then 9.1 like I just did 
 with the old Toshiba laptop?
 
 Something satisfying about giving BG the one finger salute, anyway.
 
 My business requires that I have winsomething for now, but that too will pass.
 
 Lee

Short answer: yes

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Re: [newbie] Blank Screen

2003-08-29 Per discussione Charles A Edwards
On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 17:19:02 +0100
Sendak, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 repaired itself, but what should I have done ?

Turn Off the monitor for 5 sec and then back On

It's the damn energy saving mode that some monitors use.
After a period of inactivity they don't want to come out of it.
One of my Hitachis is like that but after the off/on mouse movement 
activates the display.


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[newbie] E-17 RPM

2003-08-29 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
Oy - today, whilst perusing the contrib mirrors, I saw E-17 - was that
just my imagination - or was that the REAL DEAL that's already compiled
and ready to rock'n'roll? I saw a few of the other bits'n'bobs of the
entire package (why ain't it all packed as one big lump?) - so the
question is: IS THERE ANYONE THAT'S TRIED THIS YET?

Please lemme know - NOT that I want to forego running XFCE4, but I
always like to have more choices...(hate being limited...don't you?)

Cheerio!

PS: Haywiremac/JoeSwill = Enlightenment might be a bit too complex for
ya, so you might want to stick to simple wm's like the one you're
already using...

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[newbie] dialup problem

2003-08-29 Per discussione Anarky
   I'm asking this for a friend:
she installed Mandrake 9.1, and dial-up worked ... well .. pretty much 
(I was suprsied because I have never seen a dialup modem working with 
linux) ... thing is: it connects to the isp ... but any website one 
tries to browse to ... it says 'could not reach host' .. or something 
like htat .. so it actually connects, uses the password ... logs in ... 
but then everythign is like if it were offline. Ideas please?


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Re: [newbie] Anyone know of an icq type app taht is decent?

2003-08-29 Per discussione Inhabitant of Zion
Hi

If you want to use Kopete 0.7.1 which now supports Yahoo and AIM as well as
all the others you need to use the cooker RPM from the club. Its the only
one I managed to get to work in anything like a decent fashion.

It does have a bug still that means you have to use Xkill to shut it down
however :-(

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Re: [newbie] E-17 RPM

2003-08-29 Per discussione HaywireMac
On 28 Aug 2003 20:50:34 +1000
Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 PS: Haywiremac/JoeSwill = Enlightenment might be a bit too complex
 for ya, so you might want to stick to simple wm's like the one you're
 already using...

Holy shite, d00d, Pekwm must be configured with text files like this:

Property = ^toolbox,^Gimp {
  ApplyOn = Start New
  Group = Gimp {
  Size = 30
  Behind = False
  Global = False
  }
}
Property = ^brush_selection,^Gimp {
  ApplyOn = Start New
  Group = Gimp {
  Size = 30
  Behind = False
  Global = False
  }
}

Property = ^tool_options,^Gimp {
  ApplyOn = Start New
  Group = Gimp {
  Size = 30
  Behind = False
  Global = False
  }
}

Property = ^layers_channels_paths,^Gimp {
  ApplyOn = Start New
  Group = Gimp {
  Size = 30
  Behind = False
  Global = False
  }
}

not like Enlightenment, click click click click click...

 (Kiddo, ya know I'm jiving ya)

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Re: [newbie] Anyone know of an icq type app taht is decent?

2003-08-29 Per discussione Anne Wilson
On Friday 29 Aug 2003 9:45 pm, Inhabitant of Zion wrote:
 Hi

 If you want to use Kopete 0.7.1 which now supports Yahoo and AIM as
 well as all the others you need to use the cooker RPM from the
 club. Its the only one I managed to get to work in anything like a
 decent fashion.

 It does have a bug still that means you have to use Xkill to shut
 it down however :-(

That's funny - I use the standard release (9.1) version without 
problems.  I'm not a big chatter, but I've used it for msn and icq.

Anne

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Re: [newbie] dialup problem

2003-08-29 Per discussione Sharrea Day
On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 08:33, Anarky wrote:
 I'm asking this for a friend:
 she installed Mandrake 9.1, and dial-up worked ... well .. pretty much
 (I was suprsied because I have never seen a dialup modem working with
 linux) ... thing is: it connects to the isp ... but any website one
 tries to browse to ... it says 'could not reach host' .. or something
 like htat .. so it actually connects, uses the password ... logs in ...
 but then everythign is like if it were offline. Ideas please?

In MCC (Mandrake Control Center)   Network  Internet  DrakConnect run the 
wizard and tell it to use the modem as the internet connection.

Alternatively I think you can just edit /etc/sysconfig/drakconnect and 
change the type to modem:

type=modem

and then restart the network with:

#  service network restart


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Re: [newbie] Linux Apps - Firewalls

2003-08-29 Per discussione Bryan Phinney
On Friday 29 August 2003 11:34 am, rikona wrote:
 Hello Bryan,

 Thursday, August 28, 2003, 3:46:20 PM, you wrote:

 BP Requires some hardware but this is doable.  Simply run a proxy
 BP server on a dedicated machine, in the router or ipchains using
 BP netfilter, allow only that  machine's IP to initiate http traffic
 BP on port 80 and then all the local  machines have to be configured
 BP to use the proxy server.  Now, local machines  can't surf at will,
 BP they must go through the proxy server and you can make  the port
 BP of that whatever you want.

 If I understand you, each local machine would have to use a non-80
 port to surf, with the translation done by the proxy. I'm then
 assuming, say, Mozilla would have to be set up to use a non-80 port to
 get to the proxy. Otherwise any app on the machine could use port 80.
 You are, in effect, blocking port 80 from any local machine. Is this
 correct?

Yes, pretty much exactly the way that a corporate proxy server works.  You 
can't get any traffic out on port 80 with any application.  You have to 
specify a proxy server, say port 8080 or 8118.  The proxy server sits on that 
port and accepts traffic, sends it out to the Internet and routes the packets 
back to you when they come back.  The only applications that can get out are 
ones that use the proxy server.

On the proxy server, or with a router, you basically run a firewall and 
disallow all traffic on port 80 from all IP addresses except the proxy 
server.  So, no one else can send anything out or get anything in on port 80 
unless they go through the proxy server.  You can even set it up and install 
it from a CD only distribution, so no changes, no rootkits or anything else 
is possible because a reboot restores the system right back.

Benefits include being able to restrict some sites for everyone, being able to 
filter out harmful traffic like java, banner ads, etc., and finally caching.  
Because the proxy server serves all requests, if you have already requested 
something and five minutes later someone else requests the same thing, it 
gets pulled from the proxy cache, speeding up surfing for some people in some 
cases.


 Windows users are giving us a glimpse of the future, should linux be
 used by the masses. I'm just trying to get ready. :-))) Also, much of
 the functionality is for privacy, not just security.

Well, you can pretty much make your own browser as private as you want, so I 
am not sure that the proxy adds that much.  Admittedly, I run a proxy server 
on my own computer but it is a local one called privoxy.  It filters out the 
worst of the garbage on the web, including pop-ups, pop-unders, redirects, 
some banner ads, known scumvertiser cookies, etc.  So, I do understand the 
desire to increase privacy and security, I just think that a dedicated proxy 
and cutting off port 80 access is overkill for that.

 BP Open Source apps make it very difficult to create little one off
 BP scumware applications, trojans too.

 As linux gets more popular, some deviant will take an app, add some
 malware, and create easy-to-get-and-use or otherwise attractive lures
 to get people to load it. Apparently this has already been done for
 some 'reputable' distribution apps in linux. Some folks are inherently
 evil.

I haven't heard of any, however, penetration is still going to be difficult 
given the requirement for almost all Linux apps to release the source code.  
People DO look at the source code.  Granted, I am not a developer myself, but 
I am very active in the community (forums, message boards, etc.) and am 
likely to see something.  I constantly see people hashing apart code within 
the community, discussing it, pointing people to improvements, etc.  

Just a for instance.  An anonymous proxy service in Germany was recently 
contacted by Federal Police there and asked to monitor traffic from a 
suspected criminal.  They served a subpoena, etc.  The group running the 
service released a patch that included code to monitor this one specific 
connection.   Within 24 hours, someone had dissected the patch and noticed 
the suspect code and Usenet was all abuzz about how the service had been 
compromised and they were installing monitors in the software.  This all 
happened within the last week or two weeks.  It is a lot easier to sneak 
stuff in with proprietary closed source.  Open source, even the lack of 
actual posted open source when it is expected, automatically raises the red 
flags and is likely to hamper any suspect apps from being distributed.  For 
those that pay attention.

There was a highly recognized ftp site that was compromised and they matched 
all the code back to the original contributors to make sure that there were 
no compromised pieces of code floating around.  From what I heard, nothing 
was touched.  Again, if someone is going to install software without being 
fairly sure, including checking md5 sums, etc., then they are bound to 
attract some dirt eventually.

 

Re: [newbie] dialup problem

2003-08-29 Per discussione H.J.Bathoorn
On Friday 29 August 2003 22:33, Anarky wrote:
 I'm asking this for a friend:
 she installed Mandrake 9.1, and dial-up worked ... well .. pretty much
 (I was suprsied because I have never seen a dialup modem working with
 linux)

Since the coming of kppp I've never known it not to work, providing the 
modem is recognized.
So next time try that.

 ... thing is: it connects to the isp ... but any website one
 tries to browse to ... it says 'could not reach host' .. or something
 like htat .. so it actually connects, uses the password ... logs in ...
 but then everythign is like if it were offline. Ideas please?

Probably the DNS is misconfigured...for a dialup one doesn't have to 
configure anything i.e. loopback is sufficient.
Peoples coming from Windows usually overdo things here, expecting 
configuration  to be some sort of black magic.

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Re: [newbie] calendar

2003-08-29 Per discussione Kaj Haulrich
On Friday 29 August 2003 02:09 pm, Anarky wrote:
 Can you tell me of a linux app which would show me a
 calendar?

Besides all the GUI stuff, if you are in a terminal/console/CLI 
just type : cal. 

Here's the man page :

cal  displays a calendar

SYNOPSIS
cal [smjy13] [[month] year]

DESCRIPTION
Cal displays a simple calendar.  If arguments are not specified, 
the current month is displayed.  The options are as follows:

1  Display single month output.  (This is the default.)

3  Display prev/current/next month output.

s  Display Sunday as the first day of the week.  (This is   
the default.)

m  Display Monday as the first day of the week.

j  Display Julian dates (days onebased, numbered from 
January 1).

y  Display a calendar for the current year.

A single parameter specifies the year (1  ) to be displayed; 
note the year must be fully specified: cal 89 will not display 
a calendar for 1989.  Two parameters denote the month (1  12) 
and year.  If no parameters are specified, the current months 
calendar is displayed.

 A year starts on Jan 1.

The Gregorian Reformation is assumed to have occurred in 1752 on 
the 3rd of September.  By this time, most countries had 
recognized the reformation (although a few did not recognize it 
until the early 1900s.)  Ten days following that date were 
eliminated by the reformation, so the calendar for that month is 
a bit unusual.

HISTORY
A cal command appeared in Version 6 ATT UNIX.

OTHER VERSIONS
Several much more elaborate versions of this program exist, with 
support for colors, holidays, birthdays, reminders and 
appointments, etc. For example, try the cal from 
http://home.sprynet.com/~cbagwell/projects.html
or GNU gcal.

HTH

Kaj Haulrich.
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Re: [newbie] dialup problem

2003-08-29 Per discussione Kaj Haulrich
On Friday 29 August 2003 08:33 pm, Anarky wrote:
 I'm asking this for a friend:
 she installed Mandrake 9.1, and dial-up worked ... well ..
 pretty much (I was suprsied because I have never seen a dialup
 modem working with linux) ... thing is: it connects to the isp
 ... but any website one tries to browse to ... it says 'could
 not reach host' .. or something like htat .. so it actually
 connects, uses the password ... logs in ... but then
 everythign is like if it were offline. Ideas please?

I vaguely remember this problem from my modem days. It seems that 
you can connect, but can't resolve hostnames.
What dialer do you use ? - If it's the KDE one (Internet 
Dialer),open the settings dialog and make sure to set the 
correct DNS servers (you've got them from your ISP).

HTH

Kaj Haulrich.
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[newbie] SCO reversal

2003-08-29 Per discussione Sharrea Day
So they've changed their minds then... surprise, surprise...

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/08/29/1062050642514.html

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