Re: [newbie] 400MHz enough video power?

2005-04-10 Per discussione JoeHill
On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:28:12 -0500
Tom disseminated the following:

  That just isn't so. I have a GeF4, I use the 'nv' driver, 
 I've never used the proprietary nvidia driver, DVD's and any other 
 kind'a movies play jus' fine.  DVD's, or any videos for that matter, 
 _do not_ require hardware acceleration.

Sorry, only speaking from personal experience. DVD's or AVI's will not play, at
least not full screen anyhow, unless I'm using hardware acceleration, ie. the
nvidia driver. Like you always say, YMMV ;-)

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Re: [newbie] 400MHz enough video power?

2005-04-10 Per discussione JoeHill
On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 14:26:16 -0400
JoeHill disseminated the following:

   That just isn't so. I have a GeF4, I use the 'nv' driver, 
  I've never used the proprietary nvidia driver, DVD's and any other 
  kind'a movies play jus' fine.  DVD's, or any videos for that matter, 
  _do not_ require hardware acceleration.
 
 Sorry, only speaking from personal experience. DVD's or AVI's will not play,
 at
 least not full screen anyhow, unless I'm using hardware acceleration, ie. the
 nvidia driver. Like you always say, YMMV ;-)

I stand corrected. Just tested it with the nv driver, and the DVD did play,
fullscreen and all. I must have been thinking of trying to play movies with my
onboard video chip (crap) before I got my GF. Sorry :-(

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Re: [newbie] 400MHz enough video power?

2005-04-09 Per discussione JoeHill
On Sat, 9 Apr 2005 18:34:33 -0400
Miark disseminated the following:

 I have a Toshiba Tecra 8000 with a 400MHz processor, 192MB
 RAM, and DVD drive. From within XFCE (i.e. a lightweight enviro)
 I tried to play a DVD last night with mplayer, and totem, but
 nothing seems to work. Is 400 MHz just too little power?

I think it depends a lot on your video card/chipset. You cannot play DVD's at
all without hardware acceleration, IIRC, no matter your system resources (though
yours are definitely on the low end anyhow).

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 10.2

2005-04-03 Per discussione JoeHill
On Sun, 3 Apr 2005 17:38:47 +0100
Elwyn York disseminated the following:

 I've managed to prune my mail folders from 1500mb down to about 200mb but have
 yet to get it lower...
 
 How easy is the upgrade process from 10.0 to 10.1 without destroying the 
 data??

As far as your mail, it's stored in your home dir, which during even a clean
install is not formatted, at least not by default AFAIK. This should go for most
if not all of your 'data', depending on how you have your disk partitioned.

Always back up your data anyway, YMMV, etc., etc.

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 10.2

2005-04-03 Per discussione JoeHill
On Sun, 3 Apr 2005 18:42:36 +0100
Elwyn York disseminated the following:

 80 gig of mp3s

??!!

I sense 'eclectic' musical tastes...

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Re: [newbie] back to Windows

2005-04-02 Per discussione JoeHill
On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 08:03:17 +0200
Duncan Anderson disseminated the following:

 Hell if he want's to fight send him to the OT list :-)
 
 
 
 If your definition of 'fight' is a bunch of blindfolded monkeys throwing
 excrement in all directions...
 
   
 
 Ha! Maybe the dubya-fans-us-uber-alles list was over-subscribed and 
 Mandrakeot collected the spillage?

Careful now, they're awfully sensitive. Let's not see a friendly joke turn into
a flamewar. I've never been a part of that, and never will be. Um, well, okay,
there was this *one* time...EG

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Re: [newbie] back to Windows

2005-04-01 Per discussione JoeHill
On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 08:41:48 -0600
Dennis Myers disseminated the following:

 Everyone is intitled to their own opinion. Even if it is wrong.

BWAH! Busted! Check the date foo' ;-)

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Re: [newbie] back to Windows

2005-04-01 Per discussione JoeHill
On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 09:57:04 -0500
Greg Meyer disseminated the following:

 My guess is that it was a bit of astroturfing by a paid shill.  The sig and 
 website are provided merely to add credibility and make it look real.

Keep diggin', Greg, maybe you'll strike gold! LOL!

I love it Josenildo, keep up the good work. Seems some of the Uber Geeks on the
list need some time off...

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Re: [newbie] back to Windows

2005-04-01 Per discussione JoeHill
On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 07:33:01 -0800
Aron Smith disseminated the following:

 Hell if he want's to fight send him to the OT list :-)

If your definition of 'fight' is a bunch of blindfolded monkeys throwing
excrement in all directions...

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Re: [newbie] back to Windows

2005-04-01 Per discussione JoeHill
On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 10:51:43 -0600
Dennis Myers disseminated the following:

 Ron if you look at the date there is no fun in replying! Cheeez, some fun just
 has to be had.

You don't need to look at the date, look at the OP. Anyone else I mighta
believed it, but not JM, man, no way. That's why I'm surprised a coupla 'old
timers' got caught. Heh.

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Re: [newbie] back to Windows

2005-04-01 Per discussione JoeHill
On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 14:47:50 -0800
Aron Smith disseminated the following:

 This should be fun to follow OTH remember Abbie Hoffman wound up as a Wall 
 Street Stockbroker

...you *do* realize it's another 'April Fools', no?

Quote:

Articles: Humor
Microsoft joins OSDL, frees Linux of liability

They spelled 'humour' wrong, but you get the idea ;-)

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Re: [newbie] Burning 10.2 ISO

2005-04-01 Per discussione JoeHill
On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 17:06:22 -0600
Tom disseminated the following:

 EPA

I'm assuming you mean *ETA*, though I'm sure the *EPA* would be concerned about
Aron's 'coasters' filling up the landfills, eh?

Anyhow, good to know about April 6th. Gonna start backin' up my home dir
tomorrow :-)

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Re: [newbie] Burning 10.2 ISO

2005-04-01 Per discussione JoeHill
On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 17:45:48 -0600
Tom disseminated the following:

 Might be easier to get RC2 now an upgrade it

Me run a Cooker box? Despite my bravado regarding Linux in general and Mandrake
in particular, I am, shall we say 'fearful', to run Cooker on my one and only
desktop. An aging P3 desktop at that :-(

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Re: [newbie] Quicktime video

2005-03-30 Per discussione JoeHill
On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 20:20:30 -0800
Aron Smith disseminated the following:

 anyone know of an RPM to let you play quicktime video ?

depends on whether yer talking about a stream or a file. If it's a stream, you
can snag the mplayer plugin for moz/firefox here:

http://mplayerplug-in.sourceforge.net/

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Re: [newbie] Kmail will not run

2005-03-26 Per discussione JoeHill
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:56:59 -0800
Aron Smith disseminated the following:

 system acting weird again

No, KDE is acting normally. Fer fsck's sake, man, yer a rebel, a 'don't take no
shit' Southern man (I think), start acting like one and use a different
freakin' WM!

Sheesh. Have you ever, even *once*, seen someone with complaints like this
'KMail won't open, Konsole won't open (why the *fsck* does one need KDEinit to
open a terminal??!!), KWhatever is locking up...' who uses something other than
KDE and its conglomeration of bloated 'user friendly' apps? No. It don't happen.
You are wasting resources, time, and missing out on a whole lot more fun with
all the alternatives out there.

Anyhow, that's my anti-KDE rant for the month. Thank you all for coming.

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Re: [newbie] mp3s to wav/cd burning

2005-03-20 Per discussione JoeHill
On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 14:37:18 +1100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] disseminated the following:

 What do people use for making music cds from mp3s?

Check out ROXDAO. The site is offline right now, but check it out later, very
nice GUI for burning audio CD's, you can see a shot of it on my site.

http://kymatica.com/software.html

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Re: [newbie] Re: mp3s to wav/cd burning

2005-03-20 Per discussione JoeHill
On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:15:52 +0100
Björn Lundin disseminated the following:

  What do people use for making music cds from mp3s?
 
 if you like the cli, make wavs with this script,
 You do need sox and mpg123.
 
 from there burn the wavs as usual 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mp3_lisa]$ cat /home/bnl/music/tools/mp32wav
 #!/bin/bash
 # mp32wav
  BASENAME=${1%%.mp3}
  mpg123 -b 1 -s $BASENAME.mp3 | sox -t raw -r 44100 -s -w -c2 -
 $BASENAME.wav

LAME has always worked very well in this regard for me, I have these in my
.bashrc

# mp3 functions
function mp3ren() { for i in *.mp3; do mv $i `echo $i | tr ' '
'_'`;done; }

function mp3dec() { for i in *.mp3; do lame --decode $i `basename $i .mp3`.wav;
done; }

First one removes spaces in the filenames and converts to LC, second converts to
WAV.

Watch the line-wrap and the back-ticks :-)

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Re: [newbie] Re: mp3s to wav/cd burning

2005-03-20 Per discussione JoeHill
On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 18:48:59 -0600
Mikkel L. Ellertson disseminated the following:

  # mp3 functions
  function mp3ren() { for i in *.mp3; do mv $i `echo $i | tr ' '
  '_'`;done; }
  
  function mp3dec() { for i in *.mp3; do lame --decode $i `basename $i
  .mp3`.wav;
  done; }
  
  First one removes spaces in the filenames and converts to LC, second
  converts to
  WAV.
  
  Watch the line-wrap and the back-ticks :-)
  
  
 Wouldn't something like:
 
 function mp3dec() { for i in *.mp3 ;
 do lame --decode $i `basename \$i\  .mp3`.wav ;
 done; }
 
 handle names with spaces in them?

Oh, probably. You would know better than I. I copied these bits of code from the
Deadman.org site IIRC. Personally, I like my MP3 files to be renamed anyhow, for
future CLI functions. Filenames with spaces are a pain in the arse.

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[newbie] Synchronizing PalmOS devices with Linux

2005-03-18 Per discussione JoeHill

Thought this might interest some people:

Quote:

Smart handheld devices or personal digital assistants (PDA) extend our access
to the information on our desktops, from addresses to telephone numbers.
Unfortunately, when it comes to vendor support for synchronizing this
information with a *nix operating system, the options are limited. In this
article, we'll review the various GPL-based suites available for synchronizing
PalmOS-based devices with Linux.

http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/03/10/174221

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Re: [newbie] linux command tutorial

2005-03-18 Per discussione JoeHill
On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 17:37:32 -0500
Julie Sloan disseminated the following:

   They started after you left  :)
   Hey!  You know why in Alabama they don't teach ...oops, wrong list.
 
  Sure sure sure - just like a woman. Lead us all on and then drop us like
  a hot tater.
 
 
 Oh okay  :)
 
 ...sex educattion and drivers' education on the same day?

Punchline? I'm betting it's the same reason as in Northern Ontario...

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Re: [newbie] Updates

2005-03-16 Per discussione JoeHill
On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 19:36:40 -0500
Charles A Edwards disseminated the following:

 sylpheed2-1.9.6-0.1010.1mdk.i586.rpm

Yer doin' this just to tempt me to up to 10.1, admit it...admit it!

Aaaarrggghh the pressure...can barely resist...

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Re: [newbie] Updates

2005-03-16 Per discussione JoeHill
On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 20:27:44 -0500
Miark disseminated the following:

 What's the difference between Sylpheed2 and Sylpheed Claws 1.0.3?

GTK2. Perty.

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Re: [newbie] urpmi: command not found

2005-03-11 Per discussione JoeHill
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 20:47:16 -0700
joe disseminated the following:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] home]# urpmi glabels
 bash: urpmi: command not found

Did you try 'urpmi urpmi'?


...just kidding :-)))

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Re: [newbie] Microsoft overrules EU Council

2005-03-10 Per discussione JoeHill
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 12:03:18 -0500
Bob Read disseminated the following:

  [snip]
  
  Bush = US government
  
  Graham
 
 Graham, your equation is out of balance
 by roughly:
 
 1 = 200,000,000+
 
 If we're not doing the job properly, then
 blame us -- not our hired help.

That's assuming you actually 'hired' him ;-) As Josef Stalin said, it matters
not who casts the ballots, only who counts them.

In any case, when was the last time a politician did what he said to get
elected, in Canada, the US, Europe, or anywhere else for that matter.

For my part, people are people everywhere you go, we're all equally guilty as
not when it comes to shenanigans like software patents. One's responsibility for
just laws and behaviour doesn't end when they vote.

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[newbie] Some Fun from Groklaw

2005-03-10 Per discussione JoeHill

http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20050225155855922

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[newbie] The Devil is in the Details

2005-03-10 Per discussione JoeHill

Quote:

Microsoft Corp. is acquiring Groove Networks Inc., whose category-leading
software helps far-flung business people collaborate, and bestowing the title of
chief technical officer on Groove's founder and chief executive, Ray Ozzie.

...

The software is a central component in the Bush administration's Homeland
Security Information Network, a primary vehicle for U.S. agencies, organizations
and corporations to share important but unclassified information about national
security threats.

Link:

http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D88OBT880.htm?campaign_id=apn_tech_down

Things that make you go: 'hm'.

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Re: [newbie] licq-1.2.6-3mdk.i586.rpm.

2005-03-10 Per discussione JoeHill
On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 06:12:29 +
Tahir Abdullah disseminated the following:

 I appreciate any guidance

See here:

http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/UsingUrpmi

and here:

http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/

Need more help, write back.

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Re: [newbie] Microsoft overrules EU Council

2005-03-07 Per discussione JoeHill
On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 01:21:52 +0100
H.J.Bathoorn disseminated the following:

  So friends, that was it :  forget about software development in
  Europe.
 
  Kaj Haulrich.
 
 I'm not surprised at all, it would have been at this meeting or the next 
 meeting or the next or the next.Politicians can be bought and the EU ones in 
 particular.
 I'm not surprised there's no Dutch stance either, they've been the ones 
 working in the background pushing MS. Dutch EU politician Bolkestein up front 
 taking care of their rightsHe's right wing BTW and thankfully been pushed 
 offstage as of short.
 
 
 Don't ever forget that the EU is not a democratic organisation, it's built 
 upon the European Steel and Coal Union..a multinational 
 affair.Unification is good but not solely on economic terms.

Just a side note, this European Steel and Coal Union is *not* in any sense to be
confused with an organization of workers for collective bargaining. It is more
accurately described as a 'cartel'.

I bring this up because it is only through democratic organization that software
developers and users will defeat this cash grab by greedy mercantilist rats. As
you and Kaj and others have pointed out, this is not going to happen by marking
an 'X' on a ballot next to the name of some grifter who's supposed to
'represent' you.

The people do not need to be spoken for, their voice may be heard loud and clear
should their will be so.

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Re: [newbie] Finally, Denmark gets it right

2005-03-06 Per discussione JoeHill
On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 18:53:40 +0100
Paul disseminated the following:

 Kaj ...
 
 ... that is really really good news, I would be proud too 
 
 Luckily most of the government here in the netherlands agrees also, that
 brussels should not push the software patent issue through despite all
 opposition.
 A motion to oppose to it has been accepted unanymously last thursday. So
 that would make 3 against already. :-)

All together now...'The times, they are 'a changin'...!'

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Re: [newbie] urpmi query

2005-03-05 Per discussione JoeHill
On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 07:35:28 +
Graham Watkins disseminated the following:

 I presume this means that a source has become messed up somehow.  What 
 do I have to do to get it put right?

Well, this may not be the 'best' sol'n, but try removing and adding the source
again. I had to do this a little while ago because apparently something had
changed on his end.

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Re: [newbie] IRC Client

2005-03-03 Per discussione JoeHill
On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 08:50:54 +0100
Kasper Thunoe disseminated the following:

   Aron Smith disseminated the following:
anybody have a recommendation for a good newbie friendly IRC client?
  
   BTW, who the hell are all those people on #mandrake?? I didn't recognize
   one name from the list...
  got a lot of newbies ;-D
  
 
 XChat is by far the best client. Thats what I think anyways :-)
 
 @ Aron  Joe: What are your irc nicks?

just joehill pour moi, I would assume Aron's is 'buttmuncher' or somesuch...

/ducks

Anyhow, I was just checkin' it out, I don't have a lot of time to spend on idle
chat. Wife, two young'uns, you know the drill.

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Re: [newbie] IRC Client

2005-03-03 Per discussione JoeHill
On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 15:44:09 -0800
Aron Smith disseminated the following:

 it's aron

...what happened to 'smitty'? I always kinda liked that. Has that down-home,
hangin' out at the general store, smokin' a big bunch o' bionic chronic kinda
thang...

Anyhow, you knows I's kiddin' ya, ya big galoot :-)

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Re: [newbie] any question

2005-03-03 Per discussione JoeHill
On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 15:34:55 +0100
Stefan Tulak disseminated the following:

 I've installed mandrakelinux for one month and I'm very pleasured.

Shite, I never got that kinda stimulation out of it.

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Re: [newbie] any question

2005-03-03 Per discussione JoeHill
On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 02:16:07 +0100
Kaj Haulrich disseminated the following:

 Sorry for my bad English..

Holy crap, Kaj, it was just a joke. Sorry if it offended anyone. It wasn't in
any way meant to make fun of someone's linguistic abilities, one way or the
other. Just a play on words that to one person mean one thing, but can be
interpreted so differently by another, of course coming out of a differences in
syntactictal formations between languages.

Anyhow, sorry again, didn't intend any malice, and I'll be more careful in the
future not to exploit such opportunities for my own laffs, okay?

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Re: [newbie] IRC Client

2005-03-02 Per discussione JoeHill
On Tue, 1 Mar 2005 20:02:45 -0800
Aron Smith disseminated the following:

 anybody have a recommendation for a good newbie friendly IRC client?

...just to be original:

BitchX

Looks kewl in a transparent term, esp if you can toggle the window border and
decor (...it's just floating on your desktop...oh so l33t :-)))

It's CLI, but it's no more difficult to use than X-Chat for the basic commands,
ie. /server, /channel, etc.

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Re: [newbie] GNOME open file manager in same window

2005-03-02 Per discussione JoeHill
On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 09:40:48 +0530
Antony Paul disseminated the following:

 Thanks I set up it using gconf-editor. Neither gconf nor GConf is in
 my system. It is really annoying to open multiple windows and to find
 the windows in the task bar.

Which is why you ought to try out ROX:

http://rox.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/index.php/

Available thru urpmi, easy to configure, much more customizable than Nautilus,
and it doesn't chew up your memory and CPU just so you can browse your home
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Re: [newbie] IRC Client

2005-03-02 Per discussione JoeHill
On Tue, 1 Mar 2005 20:02:45 -0800
Aron Smith disseminated the following:

 anybody have a recommendation for a good newbie friendly IRC client?

BTW, who the hell are all those people on #mandrake?? I didn't recognize one
name from the list...

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[newbie] Sneaking Software Patents in the back door...

2005-02-27 Per discussione JoeHill

Quote:

Europe, are you watching? FT.com has the jaw-dropping story about European
futures exchanges, brokers and traders preparing for patent infringement claims
from Trading Technologies, a US software company, natch, located in Chicago --
where else? -- which has hit on what it appears to view as a pot of gold for
itself by obtaining two patents on its MD Trader software product in August of
2004, patents it is now aggressively enforcing. It settled [PDF] two patent
infringement cases [PDF] already, under circumstances some are questioning, for
some licensing dough, and it is currently suing eSpeed, the electronic arm of
Cantor Fitzgerald. eSpeed just had one of its patents ruled invalid in a patent
infringement lawsuit it brought in July of 2003, after getting the patent in
May, so it's been playing the patent game too. Game? It's like musical chairs.
You may also recall eSpeed's Wagner patent. And they say *Linux* needs to grow
up.

TT has suggested to the four main futures exchanges ___- two in Chicago and two 
in
Europe, Euronext.Liffe and Eurex ___- that they should cross its palm with 
silver
to keep it from launching patent infringement lawsuits against them.

Link:

http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20050223205453141

Just what Capitalists love to do, sit around doing absolutely nothing and watch
the money roll in.

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Re: [newbie] Beware, Firefox is a spyware :)

2005-02-26 Per discussione JoeHill
On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 00:48:54 +0700
Fajar Priyanto disseminated the following:

 Not really surprising? :)
 http://www.techimage.net/files/antispyware.png

That is not just dishonest scaremongering, it is potentially libelous. But of
course we all know how intensely successful the courts have been at reigning in
one of the worst examples of corporate criminality (excepting murderous thugs
like Bechtel, Halliburton et al).

Best is to just sit back and laugh as M$ leaves skid marks on the bowl.

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Re: [newbie] accessing windows shared drives

2005-02-26 Per discussione JoeHill
On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 11:39:47 -0500
Christopher Taylor disseminated the following:

 I have recently aquired a pc and have installed Mandrake 10.1.  I want
 to keep my old XP box on the network and use the drives.  Within XP I
 set the drives to be shared.  How would I access them through the
 linux box.  One drive is fat32 and the other is NTFS.  Having the ntfs
 drive read-only is acceptable.  Thanks.

Personally, I use LinNeighbourhood to browse and mount shares, though you must
have the Samba client installed. You can use LinNeighbourhood to export a
'mountscript' and then bind that script to a key set or to an icon. In the end,
looks something like this:

#! /bin/sh

# SMB mount script
# created by LinNeighborhood

smbmount //NODE2/backup /home/joehill/mnt/NODE2/backup/ -o username=

Then of course to unmount:

#! /bin/sh

# SMB mount script
# created by LinNeighborhood

smbumount /home/joehill/mnt/NODE2/backup/

This way, you don't have to fire up LinNeighbourhood or some other app every
time  you want to mount a remote share, you just hit a coupla keys and yer
in.

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[newbie] Who can you trust?

2005-02-23 Per discussione JoeHill

Quote:

Intellectual property attorney and open source advocate Larry Rosen has issued
a call to action to the free and open source software communities on what is yet
another battle against reasonable and non-discriminatory patent standards.

The offending body this time is the Organization for the Advancement of
Structured Information Standards (OASIS), a consortium of big tech companies
including Dell, IBM, Oracle, and Novell; big end users like General Motors,
Xerox, and the American Bar Association; and universities and government
agencies.

Link:

http://trends.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/02/22/2027219

IBM? Novell? Committed to F/OSS my ass, the bottom line always comes first with
the corps. Note the lawyers are in there like a fly on shite too, lot's of
potential litigation there, eh?

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Re: [newbie] Anyone seen this? :-(

2005-02-19 Per discussione JoeHill
On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 21:30:15 +0200
Paul disseminated the following:

  MS at its finest again:
  
  http://www.linux.org/news/2005/02/19/0004.html
 
 Didn't the US authorities do something because they cut out Netscape,
 and the European authorities because they cut out RealAudio?
 
 Some people never learn.

Don't worry, they're only shooting themselves in the foot with this one. It's
going to piss more people off than any who would say 'oh, well, back to
Windows'.

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Re: [newbie] US Patents coming to a place near you...

2005-02-16 Per discussione JoeHill
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 09:52:22 +0100
Kaj Haulrich disseminated the following:

  It ain't all bad, a united Europe has more of a chance of
  standing up to this sort of corporate extortion, IMO.
 
 Well Joe, first and foremost : EUrabia will never be united.  On the 
 contrary, it is decaying rapidly.  Exactly like its predecessor, 
 the Soviet Union.

Hey, no argument there. All authoritarian regimes are doomed to failure,
according to the SNAFU principle, dare I post it again:

http://www.jargon.net/jargonfile/s/SNAFUprinciple.html

'United' doesn't have to mean under the current EU model, though. I meant it in
a more general sense.

 Thirdly, the present Patent issue is just delayed, not removed.  
 No matter what the various parliaments (including the EU 
 Parliament) decides, the Politburo doesn't care one bit.  
 Microsoft, Siemens, Nokia etc..  still owns the Commissars, the 
 Eurocrats and  politicians.

Again, no argument, but it at least shows that there is enough vocal opposition
amongst 'the people' to snap some of these autocrats out of their blissful
reverie. That in and of itself, you are correct, is not enough though.

The best way to defeat authority, in the end, is simply to ignore it. Let MS
patent everything they want, the hackers that started this F/OSS thang will, as
they always have, simply route around the obstacles, and the users will keep on
comin' on over to a better deal.

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Re: [newbie] US Patents coming to a place near you...

2005-02-16 Per discussione JoeHill
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 17:34:13 -0800
Aron Smith disseminated the following:

 And *he * says that the OT list is opinionated.

No, no, I said it was a 'shithole'. Don't misquote me ;-)

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Re: [newbie] US Patents coming to a place near you...

2005-02-15 Per discussione JoeHill
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 23:12:31 +0100
Kaj Haulrich disseminated the following:

 Anyway, the EU doesn't have a head (=brain)

Apparently some of them do:

Quote:

The Commission regrets very much that the software patent will not be on the
agenda. It has been removed, Commission spokesman Olivier Drewes told a news
conference. 

Link:

http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20050211133435297

'Course, the US of Microsoft wasn't all too happy about that:

http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20050215071109231

It ain't all bad, a united Europe has more of a chance of standing up to this
sort of corporate extortion, IMO.

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Re: [newbie] You probably already know this

2005-02-15 Per discussione JoeHill
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 16:45:56 -0800
Aron Smith disseminated the following:

 In 10.1 if you hit the left Win$ux key you will bring up the Srar menu in KDE

Heh. Soon people won't even be able to tell whether they're using Win or Lin.

'Cept for the crashin' and burnin' and viruses and worms and spyware and...

Never mind.

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Re: [newbie] Sylpheed-Claws

2005-02-14 Per discussione JoeHill
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 06:41:53 +
Lee Wiggers disseminated the following:

 Any thoughts?

Let Fetchmail do the work of Popping in the background, then import the mail
from your local spool?

Little more involved than Bjorn's suggestion, but I just really like
Fetchmail. :-)

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[newbie] RIP Microsoft

2005-02-14 Per discussione JoeHill

Quote:

But when was the last time you thought about Microsoft, except in frustration
or anger?

Link:

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/SiliconInsider/story?id=88655page=3

We can only hope...

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Re: [newbie] cannot launch konqueror

2005-02-13 Per discussione JoeHill
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 11:21:32 +0100
Michel Leunen disseminated the following:

  Log in to XFCE4. No more problems, desktop heaven.
 
 It's already installed but what are you using as file manager because I 
 don't like much the XFCE one.

ROX! 

Homepage:

http://rox.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/index.php/

It's available thru urpmi (though I prefer to install it as a user in my home
dir instead, easier to tweak), along with a lot of goodies to go with it. It's
the best file manager on the planet.

See the 'Software Index for a list of the available software that makes ROX, er,
rock :-)

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake Off-topic

2005-02-12 Per discussione JoeHill
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 18:03:02 -0800
Aron Smith disseminated the following:

  Aron Smith disseminated the following:
   Remember to bring your asbestos underware
 
  That's getting old. You need a new one. I suggest 'kevlar khakis'.
 Nomex nitie?

Whatever you wear, you're either a Buddhist Monk, a delusional sociopath, or a
masochist to go through that gate...

'Abandon all Hope...'

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake Off-topic

2005-02-12 Per discussione JoeHill
On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 14:18:25 +1100
Stephen Kühn disseminated the following:

   Remember to bring your asbestos underware
  
  That's getting old. You need a new one. I suggest 'kevlar khakis'.
 
 Er, yer talkin 'bout ARON here mate. Limited creativity. He's stuck in a
 rut. And a rut ain't nuthin but a grave with both ends kicked out.

Just tryin' to impart some good ol' Canuck wisdom on them thar 'mericans, as per
usual. Futile effort, I know, but there's a fine line between hope and delusion,
eh?

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Re: [newbie] cannot launch konqueror

2005-02-12 Per discussione JoeHill
On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 17:05:06 +0100
Michel Leunen disseminated the following:

 What's going wrong here?

You are using the wrong Desktop and browser.

Use Firefox to go here:

http://www.eslrahc.com/

add Charles as a source and

urpmi xfce

Log in to XFCE4. No more problems, desktop heaven.

I'm pleased to see that 10.2 is going to come with XFCE4!

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake Off-topic

2005-02-12 Per discussione JoeHill
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 12:57:07 +1100
Stephen Kühn disseminated the following:

  Whatever you wear, you're either a Buddhist Monk, a delusional sociopath, or
  a
  masochist to go through that gate...
  
  'Abandon all Hope...'
 
 Dot why we tain't been seein' ya round those ports, eh Joe?

My wife has a red line where her left breast used to be. Ya.

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake Off-topic

2005-02-12 Per discussione JoeHill
On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 21:17:10 -0500
JoeHill disseminated the following:

 My wife has a red line where her left breast used to be. Ya.

Holy mufuckin' shite, that was meant to be offlist, please disregard. *Please*

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake Off-topic

2005-02-11 Per discussione JoeHill
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 16:33:19 +0200
Marek Pawinski disseminated the following:

 What command must be given to subscribe to the list ?

Well, it's not a 'command', but you'd get about the same results. Just put the
barrel of a gun in your mouth and...

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Re: [newbie] Re: Program to download all the files on a http address

2005-02-11 Per discussione JoeHill
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 23:31:46 +
Paul Smith disseminated the following:

   Is there some way of downloading at once all the files on a http
   address? For instance, consider the following address:
   So, either
   wget -r . http://www.gkmweb.com/amarok/10.1/
   or
   wget -r . ftp://www.gkmweb.com/amarok/10.1/
  
  ...whichever suits your purpose.
 
 Thanks to all who replied me. Is there a GUI for wget?

urpmi gwget or gwget2

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake Off-topic

2005-02-11 Per discussione JoeHill
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 18:50:19 -0800
Aron Smith disseminated the following:

 Remember to bring your asbestos underware

That's getting old. You need a new one. I suggest 'kevlar khakis'.

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Re: [newbie] Task Manager

2005-02-08 Per discussione JoeHill
On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 19:03:34 -0800
Fernando Arturo Gómez Flores disseminated the following:

 As a old Windows user, I find really useful the Windows' Task Manager
 utility, where I can close applications, check resources, etc. I actually
 don't know if there is a similar application already developed, but I'm
 willing to make one, based on the /proc files and kernel stuff. However,
 this email is for asking if some already knows of an application as the Task
 manager, so I don't waste time programming such application...

Um, 'top'?

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Re: [newbie] Task Manager

2005-02-08 Per discussione JoeHill
On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 20:28:00 -0500
Dan Gordon disseminated the following:

 I like gnome-system-monitor although I am sure there are others as 
 well.

Like the ROX app 'System':

http://rox.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/index.php/System

...and I just did a 'urpmq --fuzzy rox', and it's available through urpmi as
'rox-system'. Lot's of other goodies in there too :-)

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[newbie] USA ISP's complicit in spam: SpamHaus

2005-02-05 Per discussione JoeHill

Quote:

MCI is the only American, and indeed only Western network, where this spam
support activity is 'not against our policy,' the Spamhaus report said.
Spamhaus maintains that MCI's 'protected speech' excuses for servicing known
spam gangs and proxy spamware distribution sites are dishonest and non-sensical
in the face of the Internet's spam epidemic.

Link:

http://www.internetnews.com/security/article.php/3469091

Spamhaus article:

http://www.spamhaus.org/news.lasso?article=158

Once again, profit wins out over ethics.

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Re: [newbie] To Chris Lane

2005-02-02 Per discussione JoeHill
On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 22:22:48 -0600
Dennis Myers disseminated the following:

 eric, I don't feel it was a big problem, I only received the out of office 
 reply one time.  Not worth unsubbing him. IMHO

Ya, weird, me too. I wonder if it only sends one automated reply to each
address. If so, thank $DEITY, that would be one hell of a flood of unnecessary
mails.

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Re: [newbie] IP refresh command?

2005-02-02 Per discussione JoeHill
On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 10:44:50 -0500
Stuart R. Fuller disseminated the following:

 So, ifconfig eth0 up will cause the DHCP client process to request a new 
 address?

It *should* receive a new address in a short time anyhow, as soon as you plug it
into  a network with a server broadcasting DHCP. However, this would just give
it a kickstart, as soon as the network device comes 'up' it will receive the
DHCP broadcast and say 'ya, I need an address and gateway and all that'. IIANM.

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Re: [newbie] Dumbest test I've ever seen

2005-02-02 Per discussione JoeHill
On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 23:28:57 +0100
Kaj Haulrich disseminated the following:

 Don't bother looking here :
 
 http://www.choice.com.au/viewArticle.aspx?id=104575catId=100276tid=18p=1
 
 And here I thought the Aussies were bright  :-(

This is one of my favourite parts:

We___d also like to see inbuilt antivirus software in all operating systems 
___ the
tested operating systems don___t currently include a virus checker.

...and this would serve *what* purpose on a Desktop Linux or Mac system?

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Re: [newbie] Dumbest test I've ever seen

2005-02-02 Per discussione JoeHill
On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 15:47:43 -0800
jdow disseminated the following:

  And here I thought the Aussies were bright  :-(
 
  Stephen and Franki : don't you have asylums down under ?
 
  Kaj Haulrich.
 
 The criteria were somewhat weak. But given that it was a journalist
 who did the tests and installs it is fair to consider him to be more
 of a talking head mentality than a technoid mentality. That is fair,
 too. He was performing his tests for Aunt Tilly not for the average
 highly computer literate technoid such as we are or are approaching
 as a state of being.

...none of which excuses a journalist from misinforming people. As you point
out, the author make an egregious error in not properly comparing the different
OS's from a security standpoint.

If one wants to merely journalise ones own experiences for anecdotal interest,
that's one thing, but to put on the appearance that they had actually done some
research, and have clearly not done so, is disingenuous.

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Re: [newbie] IP refresh command?

2005-02-01 Per discussione JoeHill
On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 14:32:36 -0500
Hugh Crissman disseminated the following:

 I have searched high and low but can't find the command to refresh my dhcp 
 configured ip address. Often I find myself moving from one network to the 
 next and I don't want to reboot my laptop every time I want to acquire a new 
 ip on the new network. What shell command will do this for me?

'ifconfig down', then 'ifconfig up' should do it.

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Re: [newbie] To Chris Lane

2005-01-31 Per discussione JoeHill
On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 12:24:27 -0500
Carroll Grigsby disseminated the following:

 Don't the list rules require that Mr. Lane send a case of good stuff to each 
 of who received an out-of-office message?

Case? I'm thinkin' Zip-Loc bag, but that's just me...

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Re: [newbie] interesting news story

2005-01-31 Per discussione JoeHill
On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 06:40:16 +1100
Stephen Kühn disseminated the following:

   Activists Urge Free Open-Source Software
   
   http://tinyurl.com/5hezf
  
  Now why would those poor starving people want to miss out on this?:
  
  http://weblog.infoworld.com/foster/2005/01/28.html#a209
 
 It's not going to matter. MS Windows is going to get pirated no matter
 what MS does, and it only strengthens the F/OSS stance.

...I think you missed the best part of the article, mate:

So we're not talking about people who were trying to rip off Microsoft.
Instead, an awful lot of people who paid their money for Windows in good faith
are going to discover that somebody along the line - a distributor, a reseller,
an OEM -- cheated them. They are just as much victims of the counterfeiters as
Microsoft. More actually, because they were in less of a position to defend
themselves. Perhaps we should call them Windows' Genuinely Disadvantaged.

*That's* what's going to drive people to F/OSS, the fact that not only do they
have to contend with malicious script kiddies and the headaches *they* cause,
but now MS itself is going to be giving 'honest' people headaches more than
their OS already does (if that's possible).

But wait, it get's better:

http://www.vnunet.com/news/1160791

MS hasn't got a foot left to shoot off, they're up to a messy stump on both
legs. Either that or Ballmer is some kind of millipede...hm :-)))

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Re: [newbie] To Chris Lane

2005-01-31 Per discussione JoeHill
On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 15:26:09 -0500
Julie Sloan disseminated the following:

 It's just me too...

Oh jeez, just what this list needs. Posts about the World Social Forum and
Zip-Loc baggies...heh, we're gonna get along just fine :-)

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Re: [newbie] To Chris Lane

2005-01-31 Per discussione JoeHill
On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 21:03:08 +
Margot disseminated the following:

 A decent sized case will contain several bags...enough for all of 
 us ;-)

A *case* of *bags*?! Are you quite mad? I'd never leave the house!

Waitaminnit...

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Re: [newbie] interesting news story

2005-01-31 Per discussione JoeHill
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 19:10:42 -0500
Julie Sloan disseminated the following:

 Activists Urge Free Open-Source Software
 
 http://tinyurl.com/5hezf

More related to this on NPR:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4471963

Quote:

The government of Brazil says it will switch 300,000 government computers from
Microsoft's Windows operating system to open source software like Linux.
Microsoft founder Bill Gates wants to meet with Brazil's president to discuss
the change. Brazil is dropping all proprietary software.

Heh, ol' Billy's feeling the heat :-

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Re: [newbie] Isn't ~/.bash_profile sourced only at login ?

2005-01-30 Per discussione JoeHill
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 15:52:19 -0500
RickSisler disseminated the following:

 Any idea's ?

Change the script so that it is only run if fetchmail is *not* already running.

Here's the one I use:

ps ax  ~/tmp/bashterm
grep fetchmail ~/tmp/bashterm  /dev/null
if [ $? -ne 0 ] ; then
fetchmail
fi

This is in my .bashrc under '#exec on startup', though, and don't ask me how it
works, I, as usual, copied and pasted it from somewhere.

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Re: [newbie] Isn't ~/.bash_profile sourced only at login ?

2005-01-30 Per discussione JoeHill
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 15:52:19 -0500
RickSisler disseminated the following:

 I thought the ~/.bash_profile was sourced only at login

Every term you open is considered a 'login'. That's why you see '7 users'
when you have 7 terms open, even though only you are logged in. Or is it '8
users'? Whatever. You get the idea.

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[newbie] To Chris Lane

2005-01-30 Per discussione JoeHill

Hey, bud, when you get back in your office, could you remember to *never* set an
out-of-office auto-reply for an account you use on a mailing list?

Many thanks!

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Re: [newbie] interesting news story

2005-01-30 Per discussione JoeHill
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 19:10:42 -0500
Julie Sloan disseminated the following:

 Activists Urge Free Open-Source Software
 
 http://tinyurl.com/5hezf

Now why would those poor starving people want to miss out on this?:

http://weblog.infoworld.com/foster/2005/01/28.html#a209

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Re: [newbie] Removing KDE removes...everything?

2005-01-27 Per discussione JoeHill
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 21:56:35 -0500
JoeHill disseminated the following:

 I thought to myself, 'hey, I don't use KDE, why don't I just remove it?'.
 Well, according to MCC, that means uninstalling most of my system, including
 seemingly most of Gnome and it's associated lib's as well.
 
 WTF?

...just in case anyone was confused, this *is* actually a question, not just a
shot at KDE, though I have to say I'd be really annoyed to find that Mandrake
had so integrated everything with KDE that I can't have a working system without
it :-\

Anyone have any info on this?

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[newbie] Removing KDE removes...everything?

2005-01-26 Per discussione JoeHill

I thought to myself, 'hey, I don't use KDE, why don't I just remove it?'. Well,
according to MCC, that means uninstalling most of my system, including seemingly
most of Gnome and it's associated lib's as well.

WTF?

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Re: [newbie] turn off computer?

2005-01-22 Per discussione JoeHill
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 13:00:09 -0800
Eric Huff disseminated the following:

  1. Is the recommended procedure to turn computers off at least 
  nightly or keep them on all the time? 
 
 I turn mine off to save power, but there is little or no need to do
 it for stability.

Once you've stopped using your machine for some time, and the drives have spun
down and the monitor goes into powersave mode, how much are you really saving?

I've always been curious about that one.

  2. Should I install some type of firewall for security reasons? I 
  do not have any secret formula for Coca Cola or things like that 
  on my system, but do have credit card and other financial  info, 
  If yes, what do you recommend?
 
 You will get a lot of answers here, but i just use a Linksys router
 with a built in firewall.

I would second that. Linksys routers have always been my fav for such
'appliances', easy to configure, hackable, and they run Linux :-)

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Re: [newbie] I just love it

2005-01-20 Per discussione JoeHill
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:26:32 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] disseminated the following:

The instructions say to
 1: in windows download this file to a floppy
 2: in linux type these commands
   2a: mcopy scanmodem.gz. ;should be a:mcopy a:.gz. I assumed it meant in
   a 
   run box and it did not complain
   2b: gunzip scanmodem.gz   ;they never say where, run box or shell
   3a: chmod +x scanmodem   ;same thing
   4a: ./scanmodem ;again where
  
   When talking to dummies or unknown they should say where to enter the 
 commands or if it is all one line in a run box.
 HHEELLPP!  Sheesh.  Does anybody know how this is done after the file has 
 been downloaded to a floppy?

I would assume that you would run this 'scanmodem' script from the directory it
is in (hence the './'), same goes for the 'chmod +x scanmodem'. In general, you
would run commands on a given file while *in* the directory containing the file,
and I would doubt very much they are talking about a 'run box', the instructions
assume you are at a command prompt.

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Re: [newbie] Window sizing problem

2005-01-20 Per discussione JoeHill
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 11:51:51 -0500 (EST)
cervixcouch disseminated the following:

 Also, to Mr. JoeHill:  pekwm is a tad minimal for my taste.  I do like at
 least a little butter on my biscuit!

...you add the butter at your discretion, instead of having it dumped over your
head from a cauldron :-)

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Re: [newbie] XFCE 4.2 mouse scrolling

2005-01-20 Per discussione JoeHill
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 15:53:12 -0500
Kenneth Rhodes disseminated the following:

  ...and seeing if that makes it work properly...
  
 Thanks, that worked like a charm - for the current session.
 I converted that command line to an executable shell script
 as a stop gap measure while I search for the best way
 to incorporate that into the startxfce4 script which 
 I can't seem to find for some reason.

Why not just do something like this:

#!/bin/bash
startxfce4
xmodmap -e pointer = 1 2 3 6 7 4 5

...save as your ~/.xinitrc, then 'startx' or alias it to just 'x'.

Or do you start from a graphical login?

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Re: [newbie] XFCE 4.2 mouse scrolling

2005-01-20 Per discussione JoeHill
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 16:56:40 -0500
Kenneth Rhodes disseminated the following:

 For some reason I always like prefer to log into the console/comand line.

Ditto here. It just makes it so much freakin' easier to configure the way X
behaves at startup, as we've discovered here today :-)

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Re: [newbie] Window sizing problem

2005-01-19 Per discussione JoeHill
On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:08:53 -0800
Owen disseminated the following:

 Sometimes, when I'm in an application (doesn't matter which one) I'll
 click on a button and the next window that opens will be cropped,
 
 I've run into the same problem with my 19inch monitor. I have gone the same 
 route as you and had to compromise with screen resolution and font 
 size.  Some of the menus still disappear below the screen.
   I'm not very computer literate but it seems a solution would be a 
 customized screen resolution menu.   I wonder if  a  video card would offer 
 a solution.
 If you find an answer please let me in on it.

Ah, KDE, what a great Desktop. Must be why they're porting it to Windows, it'll
fit right in ;-)

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Re: [newbie] BIOS password on a Compaq Presario 1275

2005-01-19 Per discussione JoeHill
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 11:02:33 +1100
Stephen Kühn disseminated the following:

  Removing the CMOS battery isn't always easy on laptops.
 
 That's why we have hammers.

Now, would the proper technique be to *hammer* the MoBo til the CMOS battery
*falls* out, or use the *claw* to *rip* the battery out?

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Re: [newbie] Window sizing problem

2005-01-19 Per discussione JoeHill
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 10:53:55 +1100
Stephen Kühn disseminated the following:

  Ah, KDE, what a great Desktop. Must be why they're porting it to Windows,
  it'll fit right in ;-)
 
 And here I assumed Joe was going to give his down pat answer: USE
 PEKWM!

Well, it kinda goes without sayin' dunnit? Must say tho, that XFCE4 4.2 is
lookin' mighty nice too. Hell, with Charles' RPM's, I haven't the foggiest
notion why anyone isn't tripping over themselves to get away from KDE.

 Guess I was wrong today.

1st time for everything...

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Re: [newbie] BIOS password on a Compaq Presario 1275

2005-01-19 Per discussione JoeHill
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 11:46:18 +1100
Stephen Kühn disseminated the following:

Removing the CMOS battery isn't always easy on laptops.
   
   That's why we have hammers.
  
  Now, would the proper technique be to *hammer* the MoBo til the CMOS battery
  *falls* out, or use the *claw* to *rip* the battery out?
 
 Whichever is the fastest course, Joe. C'mon. Use LOGIC, mate.

Well, I thought you might have some anecdotal experience which might save me the
experimentation in that regard...

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[newbie] Gates: 'Yer a bunch o' Commies'

2005-01-11 Per discussione JoeHill

Quote:

Bill Gates is an intelligent man [wha?] who has done a great deal of good in
the world. So when he gets caught out in a bare-faced lie this should matter to
all of us; and last week, when he called the opponents of American intellectual
property law a communist movement he was encouraging a mistake that could
impoverish the entire world.

Link:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,1387447,00.html


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Re: [newbie] Gates: 'Yer a bunch o' Commies'

2005-01-11 Per discussione JoeHill
On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:26:02 -0500
JoeHill disseminated the following:

 Quote:
 
 Bill Gates is an intelligent man [wha?] who has done a great deal of good in
 the world. So when he gets caught out in a bare-faced lie this should matter
 to
 all of us; and last week, when he called the opponents of American
 intellectual
 property law a communist movement he was encouraging a mistake that could
 impoverish the entire world.
 
 Link:
 
 http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,1387447,00.html

...and IBM cuts them off at the knees:

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/business/10619848.htm?1c

Does everyone at IBM call each other 'comrade'?

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Re: [newbie] starting fetchmail on boot

2005-01-10 Per discussione JoeHill
On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 11:39:13 -0600
Chris disseminated the following:

 I'm sure this is a very simple question, but I have to ask it.  After a 
 restart I have to enter the below command to get fetchmail to start polling 
 my isp, where do I put this command to automate the process?
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] chris]$ fetchmail -m procmail

Fetchmail can be installed as a system service, ie. it starts at boot:

urpmi fetchmail-daemon

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Re: [newbie] Is this possible?

2005-01-08 Per discussione JoeHill
On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 08:14:06 -0500
et disseminated the following:

   I end up ripping movies to AVI to view on my network...
   Quality is high, speed is good.
 
  Your TV has an ethernet port?! You *are* good...
 
 mine does... you never heard of mythTV? open source personal video recording 
 and playback. no need for TVo or a dvd player, just set a box up that will do 
 the recording, and a box to do TV out.

L I B... ;-)

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Re: [newbie] Rush Limbaugh

2005-01-07 Per discussione JoeHill
On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 16:39:27 -0500
Miark disseminated the following:

 I heard that capitalist hate-monger do something right today.
 Two, actually. First, when a caller noted that his browser
 doesn't get inundated with pop-ups, and when she said she was 
 a Windows user, he recommended she download and use either 
 Firefox or Mozilla.

Hey! My Rush Voodoo doll is working!

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Re: [newbie] Rush Limbaugh

2005-01-07 Per discussione JoeHill
On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 15:57:25 -0800
Aron Smith disseminated the following:

 See if you can get it to say Open Source

Well, I had something else in mind...

I tried it on Anne Coulter, but apparently even with Voodoo there has to
actually be a functioning brain ;-)

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Re: [newbie] Is this possible?

2005-01-07 Per discussione JoeHill
On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 09:00:20 +1100
Stephen Kühn disseminated the following:

 I end up ripping movies to AVI to view on my network...
 Quality is high, speed is good.

Your TV has an ethernet port?! You *are* good...

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Re: [newbie] Eeek! Video Card Problems.

2005-01-06 Per discussione JoeHill
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 23:26:56 -0800
Amy disseminated the following:

 or reply all and share with the list.

Just to make sure people are aware, this is in fact *not* the standard way.
'Reply List' is the appropriate method, wherein one copy of the mail is sent to
the list. 'Reply All' is a Bad Thing, at least on lists, sending a copy to the
list *and* to the OP.

A lot of people don't like getting two copies of every post to a list, and can
get right peeved about it.

As has been discussed at length in other threads, most mailers can be set to
override one person's reply-to settings automatically and default to the list
instead (and *only* the list).

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[newbie] What the Hell are They Thinking?

2005-01-06 Per discussione JoeHill

Quote:

Should KDE should port its applications to Windows? A debate has flared up in
parts of the KDE community, filling inboxes and blogs with arguments long and
short. The question is really whether the KDE community should encourage this,
since it is already happening.

Link:

http://os.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=04/12/23/1844249

I always suspected the KDE devel team were in league with The Evil One, now I'm
sure of it.

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Re: [newbie] Eeek! Video Card Problems.

2005-01-05 Per discussione JoeHill
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 22:03:59 -0600
Amy disseminated the following:

 Still can't get your replies to go to the list, can ya? ;) You know,
 no matter how much people make a fuss about the reply-to setting,
 technically one should be in the habit of hitting reply-to all for
 mailing lists, since that's how it was originally suppose to work.
 However, I'm not going to get into that debate with this crowd, you're
 all nice, but you're stubborn. ;)

You're right, it's everybody else's problem, not GMail. They are completely
blameless in this and all of us are to be chided for not conforming to their
brilliant standards, faultless security, and responsiveness to their community.

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Re: [newbie] Looking for a text editor with the auto-completion feature

2005-01-02 Per discussione JoeHill
On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 11:36:04 -0800
Eric Huff disseminated the following:

  I've got a crappy old P3 and OO opens in 7 seconds...
 
 What are the conditions for that? (IE: 1st time, already an Oo
 instance open, etc) ?

That's opening OO for the first time in weeks. Second time opens in 4 seconds.
If I already have an instance open, it opens *immediately*.

It's prolly a combo of the Celeron processor and your memory usage. My OO is set
to use 9MB, I set it to 20 and it opened in under 4 seconds.

Plonk another stick of memory in there, d00d!

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Re: [newbie] Looking for a text editor with the auto-completion feature

2005-01-02 Per discussione JoeHill
On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 11:36:04 -0800
Eric Huff disseminated the following:

 processor   : 0
 vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
 cpu family  : 6
 model   : 8
 model name  : Celeron (Coppermine)
 stepping: 6
 cpu MHz : 797.669
 cache size  : 128 KB
 fdiv_bug: no
 hlt_bug : no
 f00f_bug: no
 coma_bug: no
 fpu : yes
 fpu_exception   : yes
 cpuid level : 2
 wp  : yes
 flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr
 pge mca cmov pat pse36 mmx fxsr sse bogomips: 1581.05

BTW, how the heck do I get this info?

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Re: [newbie] Looking for a text editor with the auto-completion feature

2005-01-02 Per discussione JoeHill
On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 12:19:36 -0800
Eric Huff disseminated the following:

  BTW, how the heck do I get this info?
 
 I had to search for the answer myself to get it:
 
 cat /proc/cpuinfo

512MB

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor   : 0
vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
cpu family  : 6
model   : 8
model name  : Pentium III (Coppermine)
stepping: 6
cpu MHz : 866.726
cache size  : 256 KB
fdiv_bug: no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug: no
coma_bug: no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 2
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov
pat pse36 mmx fxsr sse bogomips: 1730.15

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Re: [newbie] Looking for a text editor with the auto-completion feature

2005-01-02 Per discussione JoeHill
On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 14:26:04 -0800
Eric Huff disseminated the following:

  Plonk another stick of memory in there, d00d!
 
 Will that help:
 
 ~ $ free
 
  total  usedfree sharedbuffers   cached
 
 Mem: 255136253272   1864  032396115588
 
 -/+ buffers/cache: 105288   149848
 
 Swap:  506008   284  505724
 
 If i understand free's output correctly (which i may not), there's
 still 150MB available if needed.  Is that correct?

Like I say, I'm no hardware guru, all I know is, when I plonk more RAM in *any*
machine, it makes a huge diff. I've got a P2 300 that runs WinXP full speed with
392MB.

Someone fire up the Tom Brinkman signal ;-)

This is mine:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$free
 total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
Mem:506012 459644  46368  0  41880 264904
-/+ buffers/cache: 152860 353152
Swap:   811240  0 811240

There's so many factors involved, tho, if you look at Randall's stats his OO
opens in the same amount of time as mine, and he's got a freakin' monster. Could
be the OO version, could be a lot of things. *But*, with RAM bein' so stinkin'
cheap, why the hell not, eh?

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Re: [newbie] Looking for a text editor with the auto-completion feature

2005-01-02 Per discussione JoeHill
On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 17:46:30 -0600
Randall D. Hobbs disseminated the following:

 I'm thinking it's about time to build one of those dual Xeon systems for my 
 home PC... Might be nice to play with ;-)

If these thoughts start to replace those 'other' thoughts, get help ;-)

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