RE: Computer Haikus

[Ken Schaefer]

According to this: 
http://www.uoregon.edu/~donovan/writings/NT%20in%20Japanese.pdf most of these 
were from some competition that Salon ran in 1998

Some are archived here: http://archive.salon.com/21st/chal/1998/02/10chal2.html

Cheers
Ken

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, 6 February 2008 4:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Computer Haikus


R U serious?  He has always been a lit nut writing novels and stories, I just 
figured this was one of his writings.  He didn't actually said he wrote it, but 
it sure sounded that way.  If this was his idea of a practical joke, I think 
his network is gonna laugh at him tomorrow morning.

Okay anyone who has great scripts or practical jokes I can pull off on his 
computer, fully AD so I can do just about anything to it.  He is going down... 
Oh going down hard...

And I put his name at the bottom, so no he is not imaginary, and I am about the 
most non literary person out there so I will never be introducing stories, 
poems or other artsy things that don't score points with my wife...and this 
group will never reach her of that I am sure.
I can see the comments from Shook tomorrow..I think I am just going to go bury 
myself, it will be less painful.

From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 11:46 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Computer Haikus


Um - this has been going around the 'net for, what, 10 years. Did you friend 
write it 10 years ago? Or is claiming credit for something he hasn't done? Or 
did you just make up the friend so as to have some introduction to the haiku? 
:-)

Cheers
Ken

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, 6 February 2008 3:42 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: OT: Computer Haikus


A friend of mine wrote this and he wanted the opinions of "Computer dudes and 
dudettes"
I promised him I would post it, I find it quite good.

Your file was so big.
It might be very useful
But now it is gone.

The web site you seek
Cannot be located but
Countless more exist.

Chaos reigns within.
Reflect, repent and reboot.
Order shall return.

Windows XP crashed.
I am the Blue Screen of Death.
No one hears your screams.

Program aborting:
Close all that you have worked on.
You ask far too much.

First snow, then silence.
The thousand-dollar screen dies
So beautifully.

Stay the patient course.
Of little worth is your ire.
The network is down.

A crash reduces
Your expensive computer
To a simple stone.

Three things are certain:
Death, taxes and lost data.
Guess which has occurred.

You step in the stream
But the water has moved on.
This page is not here.

Out of memory.
We wish to hold the whole sky
But we never will.

Having been erased,
The document you're seeking
Must now be retyped.

Serious error.
All shortcuts have disappeared.
Screen. Mind. Both are blank.

Grant W. Coleman

































































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Re: Outlook Journal

[WL]

Mailbox quota reached?


On Mon, Feb 4, 2008 at 3:18 AM, Gavin Wilby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> for no real obvious reason at all?
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RE: Gigabit on the cheap

[Joseph L. Casale]

That was a whole lotta fat fingers homey :)

Jlc

Ps. Please post a pic of "Evona Frink" , heh

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 9:36 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Gigabit on the cheap


Thanks Matt,

Also where are we with SCA.


1.Battery for system.

2.   Screen saver for Lab

3.   Replacement computers, Treen, 4 new PC's, etc

4.   Terry's laptop swap?

5.   Verified AR files?

6.   Gradequick files locked all to all but specific users and the 
principals.

7.   Evona Frink, printer not working?

Thanks

Greg

From: Greg Olson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 10:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Gigabit on the cheap


I have the Dell 2708 8 port gig switch at home and it works great. And it's 
cheap at about $82.00 new. It also doesn't have a fan so it's nice and quiet 
which is the big reason why I bought it.
http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us&cs=04&kc=6W300&l=en&oc=bccwek1&s=bsd


From: Matt Bullock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 6:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Gigabit on the cheap


I've had an SMC 8508T since they first came out.  I read reviews saying speeds 
were comparable to high-end gig switches and it supports jumbo frames.  I've 
never seen a problem with it and it's under a hundred bux.


-matt

From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 7:49 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Gigabit on the cheap


Slightly OT, but only a little. At home I have a network where my two 2K3 
servers are on desktop hardware. I am using the integrated 10/100 NIC's and a 
cheap 10/100 switch.

I'm going to move to gigabit and all I need is 5-8port gigabit switch. Going to 
my favorite place to shop for such stuff (pricewatch.com) I can find all 
manners of inexpensive gigabit switches. Are any of those cheap (<$75) switches 
any better than the other? I see some brands I don't recognize and I also see 
the usual Linksys, Netgear, SMC and 3Com stuff. For under $100 I even see some 
refurbished heavier duty stuff

Comments?

Dave Lum  - Systems Engineer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025
"When you step on the brakes your life is in your foot's hands"
































































































































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RE: Computer Haikus

[gsweers]

R U serious?  He has always been a lit nut writing novels and stories, I
just figured this was one of his writings.  He didn't actually said he
wrote it, but it sure sounded that way.  If this was his idea of a
practical joke, I think his network is gonna laugh at him tomorrow
morning.

 

Okay anyone who has great scripts or practical jokes I can pull off on
his computer, fully AD so I can do just about anything to it.  He is
going down... Oh going down hard... 

 

And I put his name at the bottom, so no he is not imaginary, and I am
about the most non literary person out there so I will never be
introducing stories, poems or other artsy things that don't score points
with my wife...and this group will never reach her of that I am sure.

I can see the comments from Shook tomorrow..I think I am just going to
go bury myself, it will be less painful.

 

From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 11:46 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Computer Haikus

 

 

Um - this has been going around the 'net for, what, 10 years. Did you
friend write it 10 years ago? Or is claiming credit for something he
hasn't done? Or did you just make up the friend so as to have some
introduction to the haiku? :-)

 

Cheers

Ken

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, 6 February 2008 3:42 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: OT: Computer Haikus

 

 

A friend of mine wrote this and he wanted the opinions of "Computer
dudes and dudettes"

I promised him I would post it, I find it quite good.

 

Your file was so big.
It might be very useful
But now it is gone.

The web site you seek
Cannot be located but
Countless more exist.

Chaos reigns within.
Reflect, repent and reboot.
Order shall return.

Windows XP crashed.
I am the Blue Screen of Death.
No one hears your screams.

Program aborting:
Close all that you have worked on.
You ask far too much.

First snow, then silence.
The thousand-dollar screen dies
So beautifully.

Stay the patient course.
Of little worth is your ire.
The network is down.

A crash reduces
Your expensive computer
To a simple stone.

Three things are certain:
Death, taxes and lost data.
Guess which has occurred.

You step in the stream
But the water has moved on.
This page is not here.

Out of memory.
We wish to hold the whole sky
But we never will.

Having been erased,
The document you're seeking
Must now be retyped.

Serious error.
All shortcuts have disappeared.
Screen. Mind. Both are blank.

 

Grant W. Coleman

 

 










 
 


 

 





 


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RE: Computer Haikus

[Ken Schaefer]

Um - this has been going around the 'net for, what, 10 years. Did you friend 
write it 10 years ago? Or is claiming credit for something he hasn't done? Or 
did you just make up the friend so as to have some introduction to the haiku? 
:-)

Cheers
Ken

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, 6 February 2008 3:42 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: OT: Computer Haikus


A friend of mine wrote this and he wanted the opinions of "Computer dudes and 
dudettes"
I promised him I would post it, I find it quite good.

Your file was so big.
It might be very useful
But now it is gone.

The web site you seek
Cannot be located but
Countless more exist.

Chaos reigns within.
Reflect, repent and reboot.
Order shall return.

Windows XP crashed.
I am the Blue Screen of Death.
No one hears your screams.

Program aborting:
Close all that you have worked on.
You ask far too much.

First snow, then silence.
The thousand-dollar screen dies
So beautifully.

Stay the patient course.
Of little worth is your ire.
The network is down.

A crash reduces
Your expensive computer
To a simple stone.

Three things are certain:
Death, taxes and lost data.
Guess which has occurred.

You step in the stream
But the water has moved on.
This page is not here.

Out of memory.
We wish to hold the whole sky
But we never will.

Having been erased,
The document you're seeking
Must now be retyped.

Serious error.
All shortcuts have disappeared.
Screen. Mind. Both are blank.

Grant W. Coleman













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RE: Gigabit on the cheap

[gsweers]

Thanks Matt,

 

Also where are we with SCA.

 

1.Battery for system.

2.   Screen saver for Lab

3.   Replacement computers, Treen, 4 new PC's, etc

4.   Terry's laptop swap?

5.   Verified AR files?

6.   Gradequick files locked all to all but specific users and the
principals.

7.   Evona Frink, printer not working?

 

Thanks

 

Greg

 

From: Greg Olson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 10:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Gigabit on the cheap

 

 

I have the Dell 2708 8 port gig switch at home and it works great. And
it's cheap at about $82.00 new. It also doesn't have a fan so it's nice
and quiet which is the big reason why I bought it. 

http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us&cs=04&kc=6W300&l
=en&oc=bccwek1&s=bsd

 

 

From: Matt Bullock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 6:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Gigabit on the cheap

 

 

I've had an SMC 8508T since they first came out.  I read reviews saying
speeds were comparable to high-end gig switches and it supports jumbo
frames.  I've never seen a problem with it and it's under a hundred bux.

 

 

-matt

 

From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 7:49 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Gigabit on the cheap

 

 

Slightly OT, but only a little. At home I have a network where my two
2K3 servers are on desktop hardware. I am using the integrated 10/100
NIC's and a cheap 10/100 switch.

 

I'm going to move to gigabit and all I need is 5-8port gigabit switch.
Going to my favorite place to shop for such stuff (pricewatch.com) I can
find all manners of inexpensive gigabit switches. Are any of those cheap
(<$75) switches any better than the other? I see some brands I don't
recognize and I also see the usual Linksys, Netgear, SMC and 3Com stuff.
For under $100 I even see some refurbished heavier duty stuff

 

Comments?

 

Dave Lum  - Systems Engineer 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025
"When you step on the brakes your life is in your foot's hands" 

 

 

 

 










 










 
 
 


 

 










 
 


 

 





 


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RE: Gigabit on the cheap

[Greg Olson]

I have the Dell 2708 8 port gig switch at home and it works great. And
it's cheap at about $82.00 new. It also doesn't have a fan so it's nice
and quiet which is the big reason why I bought it. 

http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us&cs=04&kc=6W300&l
=en&oc=bccwek1&s=bsd

 

 

From: Matt Bullock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 6:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Gigabit on the cheap

 

 

I've had an SMC 8508T since they first came out.  I read reviews saying
speeds were comparable to high-end gig switches and it supports jumbo
frames.  I've never seen a problem with it and it's under a hundred bux.

 

 

-matt

 

From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 7:49 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Gigabit on the cheap

 

 

Slightly OT, but only a little. At home I have a network where my two
2K3 servers are on desktop hardware. I am using the integrated 10/100
NIC's and a cheap 10/100 switch.

 

I'm going to move to gigabit and all I need is 5-8port gigabit switch.
Going to my favorite place to shop for such stuff (pricewatch.com) I can
find all manners of inexpensive gigabit switches. Are any of those cheap
(<$75) switches any better than the other? I see some brands I don't
recognize and I also see the usual Linksys, Netgear, SMC and 3Com stuff.
For under $100 I even see some refurbished heavier duty stuff

 

Comments?

 

Dave Lum  - Systems Engineer 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025
"When you step on the brakes your life is in your foot's hands" 

 

 

 

 










 
 


 

 





 


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Re: ADMod question

[Kurt Buff]

Yep - new version of admod is better. Still gonna take some work,
though, from what I can see in the docs. Have to prefix each field
with the correct identifier. That's definitely going to be
interesting.

On a side note, the newest version of adfind still is stupid about
populating blank fields with garbage. Sigh.

Kurt

On Feb 5, 2008 5:00 PM, Michael B. Smith
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Admod -csv?
>
> I took a quick look at it...it appears to be doable.
>
> Regards,
>
> Michael B. Smith
> MCSE/Exchange MVP
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 7:44 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: ADMod question
>
> As you might have guessed from the ADFind question a few minutes ago,
> I've extracted our user accounts from AD - I gave them a somewhat
> cleaned up version, and asked them to verify things like phone
> numbers, job titles, managers, etc.
>
> Now I have a csv file that looks like the following:
>
> displayName","dn","givenName","sn","description","title","department","depar
> tmentNumber","employeeNumber","company","streetAddress","l","st","postalCode
> ","physicalDeliveryOfficeName","co","telephoneNumber","mobile","mail","mgr",
> "t
>
> "Kurt Buff","CN=Kurt
> Buff,OU=US,OU=MycompanyUsers,DC=mycompany,DC=com","Kurt","Buff","","Lead
> Network Administrator","Information
> Technology","6011","1095","Mucompany"," Inc.","PO Box
> 9","Redmond","WA","98xxx","US","US","463","","[EMAIL PROTECTED]","Mark
> Manager","CN=Mark
> Manager","OU=US","OU=MycompanyUsers","DC=mycompany","DC=com"
>
>
> and want to import the cleaned up data.
>
> I'm looking at the docs for ADMod.exe, and don't see how I can do this.
>
> Does anyone have a pointer on this, or have a better way to do it?
>
> Kurt
>
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RE: Gigabit on the cheap

[Matt Bullock]

I've had an SMC 8508T since they first came out.  I read reviews saying
speeds were comparable to high-end gig switches and it supports jumbo
frames.  I've never seen a problem with it and it's under a hundred bux.

 

 

-matt

 

From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 7:49 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Gigabit on the cheap

 

 

Slightly OT, but only a little. At home I have a network where my two
2K3 servers are on desktop hardware. I am using the integrated 10/100
NIC's and a cheap 10/100 switch.

 

I'm going to move to gigabit and all I need is 5-8port gigabit switch.
Going to my favorite place to shop for such stuff (pricewatch.com) I can
find all manners of inexpensive gigabit switches. Are any of those cheap
(<$75) switches any better than the other? I see some brands I don't
recognize and I also see the usual Linksys, Netgear, SMC and 3Com stuff.
For under $100 I even see some refurbished heavier duty stuff

 

Comments?

 

Dave Lum  - Systems Engineer 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025
"When you step on the brakes your life is in your foot's hands" 

 

 

 

 





 


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Re: ADMod question

[Kurt Buff]

Ah.

I think my version is a bit out of date. It doesn't show that option.

Off to the web thingy to get new stuff...

On Feb 5, 2008 5:00 PM, Michael B. Smith
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Admod -csv?
>
> I took a quick look at it...it appears to be doable.
>
> Regards,
>
> Michael B. Smith
> MCSE/Exchange MVP
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 7:44 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: ADMod question
>
> As you might have guessed from the ADFind question a few minutes ago,
> I've extracted our user accounts from AD - I gave them a somewhat
> cleaned up version, and asked them to verify things like phone
> numbers, job titles, managers, etc.
>
> Now I have a csv file that looks like the following:
>
> displayName","dn","givenName","sn","description","title","department","depar
> tmentNumber","employeeNumber","company","streetAddress","l","st","postalCode
> ","physicalDeliveryOfficeName","co","telephoneNumber","mobile","mail","mgr",
> "t
>
> "Kurt Buff","CN=Kurt
> Buff,OU=US,OU=MycompanyUsers,DC=mycompany,DC=com","Kurt","Buff","","Lead
> Network Administrator","Information
> Technology","6011","1095","Mucompany"," Inc.","PO Box
> 9","Redmond","WA","98xxx","US","US","463","","[EMAIL PROTECTED]","Mark
> Manager","CN=Mark
> Manager","OU=US","OU=MycompanyUsers","DC=mycompany","DC=com"
>
>
> and want to import the cleaned up data.
>
> I'm looking at the docs for ADMod.exe, and don't see how I can do this.
>
> Does anyone have a pointer on this, or have a better way to do it?
>
> Kurt
>
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RE: ADMod question

[Ken Schaefer]

Or, if that isn't flexible enough, write a VBScript/Jscript that reads in the 
file using FSO one line at a time. It can then do a split on the ',' and pass 
the necessary information into a call to admod.exe

Cheers
Ken

-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, 6 February 2008 12:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: ADMod question

Admod -csv?

I took a quick look at it...it appears to be doable.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
MCSE/Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 7:44 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: ADMod question

As you might have guessed from the ADFind question a few minutes ago,
I've extracted our user accounts from AD - I gave them a somewhat
cleaned up version, and asked them to verify things like phone
numbers, job titles, managers, etc.

Now I have a csv file that looks like the following:

displayName","dn","givenName","sn","description","title","department","depar
tmentNumber","employeeNumber","company","streetAddress","l","st","postalCode
","physicalDeliveryOfficeName","co","telephoneNumber","mobile","mail","mgr",
"t

"Kurt Buff","CN=Kurt
Buff,OU=US,OU=MycompanyUsers,DC=mycompany,DC=com","Kurt","Buff","","Lead
Network Administrator","Information
Technology","6011","1095","Mucompany"," Inc.","PO Box
9","Redmond","WA","98xxx","US","US","463","","[EMAIL PROTECTED]","Mark
Manager","CN=Mark
Manager","OU=US","OU=MycompanyUsers","DC=mycompany","DC=com"


and want to import the cleaned up data.

I'm looking at the docs for ADMod.exe, and don't see how I can do this.

Does anyone have a pointer on this, or have a better way to do it?

Kurt

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RE: ADMod question

[Michael B. Smith]

Admod -csv?

I took a quick look at it...it appears to be doable.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
MCSE/Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 7:44 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: ADMod question

As you might have guessed from the ADFind question a few minutes ago,
I've extracted our user accounts from AD - I gave them a somewhat
cleaned up version, and asked them to verify things like phone
numbers, job titles, managers, etc.

Now I have a csv file that looks like the following:

displayName","dn","givenName","sn","description","title","department","depar
tmentNumber","employeeNumber","company","streetAddress","l","st","postalCode
","physicalDeliveryOfficeName","co","telephoneNumber","mobile","mail","mgr",
"t

"Kurt Buff","CN=Kurt
Buff,OU=US,OU=MycompanyUsers,DC=mycompany,DC=com","Kurt","Buff","","Lead
Network Administrator","Information
Technology","6011","1095","Mucompany"," Inc.","PO Box
9","Redmond","WA","98xxx","US","US","463","","[EMAIL PROTECTED]","Mark
Manager","CN=Mark
Manager","OU=US","OU=MycompanyUsers","DC=mycompany","DC=com"


and want to import the cleaned up data.

I'm looking at the docs for ADMod.exe, and don't see how I can do this.

Does anyone have a pointer on this, or have a better way to do it?

Kurt

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ADMod question

[Kurt Buff]

As you might have guessed from the ADFind question a few minutes ago,
I've extracted our user accounts from AD - I gave them a somewhat
cleaned up version, and asked them to verify things like phone
numbers, job titles, managers, etc.

Now I have a csv file that looks like the following:

displayName","dn","givenName","sn","description","title","department","departmentNumber","employeeNumber","company","streetAddress","l","st","postalCode","physicalDeliveryOfficeName","co","telephoneNumber","mobile","mail","mgr","t

"Kurt Buff","CN=Kurt
Buff,OU=US,OU=MycompanyUsers,DC=mycompany,DC=com","Kurt","Buff","","Lead
Network Administrator","Information
Technology","6011","1095","Mucompany"," Inc.","PO Box
9","Redmond","WA","98xxx","US","US","463","","[EMAIL PROTECTED]","Mark
Manager","CN=Mark
Manager","OU=US","OU=MycompanyUsers","DC=mycompany","DC=com"


and want to import the cleaned up data.

I'm looking at the docs for ADMod.exe, and don't see how I can do this.

Does anyone have a pointer on this, or have a better way to do it?

Kurt

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Re: Photoshop CS3

[James Kerr]

Yes, Adobe is a stingy lot when it comes to not-for-profits. I work for a 
not-for-profit and we have to pay full price for Photoslob.


James


- Original Message - 
From: "Ben Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 5:27 PM
Subject: Re: Photoshop CS3



On Feb 5, 2008 5:16 PM, John Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Adobe has only given token discounts to Non-profits, I seriously doubt
they will let CS3 go for $20 even to a Edu ...


 It may depend on the deal the school negotiates.  If the school
agrees to teach all their graphics/arts/design classes using Adobe
products, Adobe might (rightly) see that as a pretty good deal.  The
school is essentially paying Adobe to do their marketing for them.

-- Ben

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RE: Server naming

[Ken Schaefer]

This is all good and well, and I don't disagree with what you are saying.

Let me restate the original post:

-Unless you are administering your AD by region, you shouldn't be organising 
your OUs by region-

This was in response to a post where someone said that they organised servers 
by region because it made it easy/easier to find them.

My underlying point is that you need to arrange your OU structure by how you 
administer AD (whether that be by business unit, by region, by machine role) to 
facilitate delegation of administration and to facilitate application of GPOs 
(that's what I mean by "administer GPO) NOT to make it easier to find things in 
GUI tools like dsa.msc. As your AD gets bigger, you'll find that dsa.msc isn't 
really usable anymore in a well managed AD.

Cheers
Ken


From: Les B. Minaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, 6 February 2008 5:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server naming


I too, would like to know why.

I remember taking an MS AD course in which the instructor said that OU's should 
not mirror the organizational structure of a company.
He was, however, unable to give me a "good enough" reason for that to be 100% 
true all the time. I believe that OU's should be organized
in a manner that provided sufficient flexibility with GPO's et cetera. Nothing 
more, nothing less. What defines that flexibility is variable by organization.

Les.


From: Tim Vander Kooi
Sent: Mon 2/4/2008 5:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server naming

And there is nothing wrong with your way of doing it. I have my OUs set by area 
so that I can use GPOs to install software from different servers based on 
where they are located (not server based administration as Ken mentions). It 
has worked fine for me for years. I was curious if Ken had a reason for his 
blanket statement regarding how it shouldn't be done. If a reason exists I 
would be interested to know what it is.
Tim


From: Webb, Brian (Corp) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 3:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server naming


I think what Tim is saying is the reason for creating new OUs is for 
administration purposes.  The primary reason to create a new OU is to 
facilitate delegating administration or assigning Group Policy.  We have 
hundreds of servers, but fewer than 10 OUs for them.

-Brian



From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 2:53 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server naming

I'm curious why you say that Ken.


From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 4:07 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server naming


Unless you have server administration by region, you shouldn't be organising 
your servers into regional specific OUs.

Cheers
Ken

From: MarvinC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 1 February 2008 4:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Server naming


Makes a whole lot of sense for me too. Once you create your OU's and place 
everything where they need to go then it gets even easier, for me anyways. So 
if I need to see all systems in a particular region or location I navigate to 
that function or location specific OU and go from there. Keep it simple, 
seriously! If you're dumping everything into one OU then I can see how it'd be 
a problem.


On 1/31/08, Michael Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I choose a 2 letter prefix for the location such as CH for Chicago, then a
meaningful name after that like Exchange for the type of server, then a
number for the amount of servers you will have
CHExchange1 CHFile1, etc.
makes so much more sense to me. i know where it is, and what it is.

-Original Message-
From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 10:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server naming

At my last job, we used golf related terms.  Eagle, Putter, Driver, Wedge,
Bunker, etc... at the job before that, we used superheroes.
Superman, Spiderman, etc.

Currently, we're using role based names, which I actually don't like, as it
makes it that much easier for a hacker to know where to go for the info he's
looking for...

Joe Heaton

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 8:21 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Server naming

On Jan 31, 2008 10:22 AM, David Lum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Attacking server naming conventions again, how do you guys name your
> servers?

Depends on the nature of the organization.  For larger organizations, or
if you have lots of servers, a name based on the site, function and a number
tend to be the only way to go, especially with the flat naming system
Windows still uses internally.

For smaller shops with the right attitude (lik

RE: Anyone using ISA pls check this for me

[Greg Mulholland]

Neither

Greg

> No problems here.
>
> Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
> Site: www.isaserver.org
> Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
> Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
> MVP -- Microsoft Firewalls (ISA)
>
>
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Andy Ognenoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 9:20 AM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: Anyone using ISA pls check this for me
>>
>> Could it be related to the cable cuts?  From SANS ISC:
>>
>> "On NANOG are reports of yet another submarine cable in the
>> middle east that
>> was damaged Sunday. It's a cable between Haloul, Qatar and
>> Das, United Arab
>> Emirates."
>>
>>  - Andy O.
>> 
>> From: Osama Salah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 4:38 AM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: Anyone using ISA pls check this for me
>>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>  
>> I've problems checking this site www.nbad.com (National Bank
>> of Abu Dhabi)
>> using our ISA server.
>> I'm still using ISA 2004. The box has also AVast of ISA and
>> Websense on it
>> but I confirmed its neither of those two.
>> Now I'm suspecting maybe some issue in their website code and our ISA
>> server.
>> If you have ISA pls see if you can access this site.
>>  
>> thanks
>> Osama Salah
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Big log file

[Kurt Buff]

On Feb 5, 2008 1:59 PM, Ben Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Feb 5, 2008 4:42 PM, Kurt Buff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > unxutils.sf.net seems to be moribund.
>
>   Er, sorry.  The actual project downloads still work, if you go to
> the SourceForge project page at .
> What, doesn't everybody know that's how SF project pages work?  ;-)
> And while unxutils maintenance is apparently dead, it's not like the
> tools themselves are undergoing rapid flux.  :-)

They must have started working again - didn't work for about a year
for me - especially the update download. It just didn't work at all.


> > Try gunwin32.sf.net instead.
>
>   I've also had http://sf.net/projects/wintools recommended to me, but
> haven't tried that yet, either.  :)

I just tried it - don't bother. The gnuwin32 project has updates as of
today - the wintools site's last news update is in 2006.

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IP Chimney Disabled

[gsweers]

Just to give you an idea of what I saw.

 

Running VMWARE Server on one box, with IP Chimney enabled.

Dell 2950, 4 gig, Dual Broadcom Net II Nics Teamed, X64 2003

Migrating a existing physical box that was 20 gig took about 1hr30mins.

 

Doing the same exact image with IP chimney disabled took 20 - 25 mins.

 

No other changes made.  Duplex, speed are physically set.

 

The physical box being converted was an older Dell with Intel Pro MT
Gigabit card.

 

I know it was a big topic so I just thought I would show some real
numbers we saw.

 

Greg


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RE: lsass.exe question

[Michael B. Smith]

With cached mode, that's certainly true.

 

It's a competitive feature. Even with its limited applicability it is
unlikely to be removed.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

MCSE/Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Greg Olson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 6:02 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: lsass.exe question

 

 

I think even in the org it's pretty much zero chance it will work. 

 

 

From: Salvador Manzo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 2:55 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: lsass.exe question

 


The Recall This Message function really needs to go away, considering how
close to useless it is.


On 2/5/08 1:18 PM, "Michael B. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:


I just meant - are you aware that there is zero chance that recall will work
once it has left your internet boundary?
 

Regards,
 
Michael B. Smith
MCSE/Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com
 

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 4:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Recall: lsass.exe question

 
Nope I aint..
 
I am at least somewhat respectful of Shooks Privacy, even if TVK wasn't to
trample all over it J 
 
Z
 

Edward E. Ziots
Netwok Engineer
Lifespan Organization
MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA
Phone: 401-639-3505
-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 4:12 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Recall: lsass.exe question

 
You gotta be kidding!
 

Regards,
 
Michael B. Smith
MCSE/Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com
 

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 4:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Recall: lsass.exe question

 
The sender would like to recall the message, "lsass.exe question". 



















 
 











 







 













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Auxiliary Services IT, Datacenter
University of Southern California
818-612-5112
In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand
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Re: Objective small business security resources

[Kurt Buff]

On Feb 5, 2008 2:23 PM, kenw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That was a good response.  We're already doing those things, although
> I'm looking hard at ways to do them better.
>
> I hesitate to mention firewalls, because people seem to get jumped on if
> they are perceived as thinking that's all they need.  But... firewalls
> are Necessary But Not Sufficient, and I'm not satisfied with my current
> solution to that aspect of security.  I need to address that.
>
> Low end firewalls don't offer near the packet inspection and other
> functionality I'd like to see, and the higher end ones I've used (like
> Cisco) tend to be too expensive in terms of both management time
> overhead and capital cost.
>
> I want a firewall that actually understands something of the protocols
> it allowa through, and can detect password guessing attempts on a number
> of protocols.  I reeealy hate opening up ports for the bots to hammer on
> without good packet inspection, and I just do not have and cannot afford
> the time to cover all the details manually.
>
> I see a lot of talk about SonicWall (they burned me once), WatchGuard,
> Astaro, Untangle, ISA Server, etc.  People talk a lot about what the
> like or don't, but hardly anyone seems to know what they actually do.
> From what I've seen, I haven't been all that impressed.  I liked the
> Cisco 1841 with IOS IPS, but it was buggy and very time-consuming.  If I
> spent that kind of time on all the contenders, I might as well switch
> careers.
>
> Maybe I'm a paranoid iconoclast.  Probably.
>
> Do you know of anyone who can speak knowledgeably about firewall
> products appropriate for one-server-no-IT-staff small business?
>
> /kenw

My first impressions of the Sidewinder firewalls we've just installed
(Secure Computing) is very good. We turned them up over the weekend on
the T1 that we're sending everything web/ftp over, and they even
denied us access to our own (3rd-party hosted) company web site.
Called the URLs poorly formed. 'Course, the content manager the
developers are using is something I'd never heard of before, and it
has since been purchased and discontinued (no support), and I was
critical of it from the beginning. Vindication is sometimes sweet -
they shoulda gone with plone/zope like I told 'em, if they were
concerned about price.

However, to the subject at hand: the model we've put into production
is the 510D - two of them in HA/Failover. I'm still tweaking the
setup, but I'm impressed so far. I've got two 110s to send to our
foreign offices, but haven't put them together yet. When I do that,
it'll be more interesting, because I have to set up the IPSec tunnels
between them and us. The 510D's are rebranded Dells, and I can't tell
what the 110s are. Both models come with 4 network ports - the
higher-end models of this line apparently have optional SSL
accelerators that can be installed, though I don't believe that's
available for the 510 or lower models.

The cool thing is that they're based on FreeBSD, though it seems to be
heavily modified - I'm sure there's some Trusted BSD underneath there
somewhere, though I'm no expert in that. I'm a big fan of FreeBSD,
though, which means that the command line on it, and the flavors of
various tools on it, are familiar and comfortable.

The software rev is the most recent - 7.0.0.005 - and the Windows
management GUI is pretty straightforward, but being able to ssh into
the machine and do some tasks is very sweet.

As for the software itself, it seems to have a *very* deep
understanding of the protocols it proxies - I'm quite impressed with
how controllable it is.

Kurt

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RE: Anyone using ISA pls check this for me

[Thomas W Shinder]

No problems here.

Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
Site: www.isaserver.org
Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
MVP -- Microsoft Firewalls (ISA)

 

> -Original Message-
> From: Andy Ognenoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 9:20 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Anyone using ISA pls check this for me
> 
> Could it be related to the cable cuts?  From SANS ISC:
> 
> "On NANOG are reports of yet another submarine cable in the 
> middle east that
> was damaged Sunday. It's a cable between Haloul, Qatar and 
> Das, United Arab
> Emirates."
> 
>  - Andy O. 
> 
> From: Osama Salah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 4:38 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Anyone using ISA pls check this for me
> 
> 
> Hi all,
>  
> I've problems checking this site www.nbad.com (National Bank 
> of Abu Dhabi)
> using our ISA server.
> I'm still using ISA 2004. The box has also AVast of ISA and 
> Websense on it
> but I confirmed its neither of those two.
> Now I'm suspecting maybe some issue in their website code and our ISA
> server.
> If you have ISA pls see if you can access this site.
>  
> thanks
> Osama Salah
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: lsass.exe question

[Greg Olson]

I think even in the org it's pretty much zero chance it will work. 

 

 

From: Salvador Manzo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 2:55 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: lsass.exe question

 


The Recall This Message function really needs to go away, considering
how close to useless it is.


On 2/5/08 1:18 PM, "Michael B. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:


I just meant - are you aware that there is zero chance that recall will
work once it has left your internet boundary?
 

Regards,
 
Michael B. Smith
MCSE/Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com
 

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 4:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Recall: lsass.exe question

 
Nope I aint..
 
I am at least somewhat respectful of Shooks Privacy, even if TVK wasn't
to trample all over it J 
 
Z
 

Edward E. Ziots
Netwok Engineer
Lifespan Organization
MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA
Phone: 401-639-3505
-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 4:12 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Recall: lsass.exe question

 
You gotta be kidding!
 

Regards,
 
Michael B. Smith
MCSE/Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com
 

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 4:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Recall: lsass.exe question

 
The sender would like to recall the message, "lsass.exe question". 



















 
 











 







 














---
Salvador Manzo  [ 620 W. 35th St - Los Angeles, CA 90089  e.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] 
Auxiliary Services IT, Datacenter
University of Southern California
818-612-5112
In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle,
stand like a rock. Thomas Jefferson

 





 


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Re: lsass.exe question

[Salvador Manzo]

The Recall This Message function really needs to go away, considering how
close to useless it is.


On 2/5/08 1:18 PM, "Michael B. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>  
> I just meant ­ are you aware that there is zero chance that recall will work
> once it has left your internet boundary?
>  
> 
> Regards,
>  
> Michael B. Smith
> MCSE/Exchange MVP
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>  
> 
> From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 4:15 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Recall: lsass.exe question
>  
>  
> Nope I aint..
>  
> I am at least somewhat respectful of Shooks Privacy, even if TVK wasn¹t to
> trample all over it J
>  
> Z
>  
> 
> Edward E. Ziots
> Netwok Engineer
> Lifespan Organization
> MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA
> Phone: 401-639-3505
> -Original Message-
> From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 4:12 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Recall: lsass.exe question
>  
>  
> You gotta be kidding!
>  
> 
> Regards,
>  
> Michael B. Smith
> MCSE/Exchange MVP
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>  
> 
> From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 4:08 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Recall: lsass.exe question
>  
>  
> The sender would like to recall the message, "lsass.exe question".
> 
>  
>  
> 
> 
> 
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> 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
>  
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>  
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> 
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> 
> ---
> Salvador Manzo  [ 620 W. 35th St - Los Angeles, CA 90089  e. [EMAIL 
> PROTECTED] ]
> Auxiliary Services IT, Datacenter
> University of Southern California
> 818-612-5112
> In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand
> like a rock. Thomas Jefferson


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ADFind oddity...

[Kurt Buff]

The only difference between these two incantations is the '-nodn'
parameter, but the output from the first is, well, stupid.

C:\temp>adfind -b dc=mycompany,dc=com -f "objectcategory=person" -csv
sAMAccountName userAccountControl displayName givenName sn description
title employeeNumber department departmentNumber company streetAddress
l st postalCode physicalDeliveryOffice co telephoneNumber mobile mail
manager

C:\temp>adfind -b dc=mycompany,dc=com -f "objectcategory=person" -csv
-nodn sAMAccountName userAccountControl displayName givenName sn
description title employeeNumber department departmentNumber company
streetAddress l st postalCode physicalDeliveryOffice co
telephoneNumber mobile mail manager

Output from the first one:

"CN=kurt,OU=Users,OU=MycompanyTest,DC=Mycompany,DC=com","512","kurt","kurt","sAMAccountName","sAMAccountName","sAMAccountName","101110","sAMAccountName","sAMAccountName","sAMAccountName","sAMAccountName","sAMAccountName","sAMAccountName","sAMAccountName","sAMAccountName","sAMAccountName","sAMAccountName","sAMAccountName","[EMAIL
 PROTECTED]","CN=My
Manager,OU=US,OU=MycompanyUsers,DC=mycompany,DC=com"

Output from the second one:

"kurt","512","kurt","kurt","","","","101110","","","","","","","","","","","","[EMAIL
 PROTECTED]","CN=My
Manager,OU=US,OU=MycompanyUsers,DC=mycompany,DC=com"


How on earth do I fix this output? I know, I can do a search/replace,
but this is pretty silly.

Anyone else run into this?

Kurt

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RE: Server naming

[Ken Schaefer]

Well you did say "I would also disagree" :-)

So, what are you disagreeing with, if you're saying that you could be saying 
the same thing as me? I'm very confused now...

Cheers
Ken

From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 5 February 2008 11:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server naming


Its not, just took the opportunity to stimulate discussion...

Andy

From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 7:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server naming


And how is that any different to what I said?

OU design should reflect your administrative needs. If you do administration by 
geography, then organise your OUs by geography. But if you do you admin by 
server role type or by business unit (BU) or by outsourcer, or whatever then 
your OUs should be organised that way.

Cheers
Ken

From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 5 February 2008 7:58 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server naming


I would also disagree, I have one physical site and I have my AD organized by 
our lines of business.

Shook
http://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshook

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 3:53 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server naming


I'm curious why you say that Ken.


From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 4:07 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server naming


Unless you have server administration by region, you shouldn't be organising 
your servers into regional specific OUs.

Cheers
Ken

From: MarvinC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 1 February 2008 4:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Server naming


Makes a whole lot of sense for me too. Once you create your OU's and place 
everything where they need to go then it gets even easier, for me anyways. So 
if I need to see all systems in a particular region or location I navigate to 
that function or location specific OU and go from there. Keep it simple, 
seriously! If you're dumping everything into one OU then I can see how it'd be 
a problem.


On 1/31/08, Michael Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I choose a 2 letter prefix for the location such as CH for Chicago, then a
meaningful name after that like Exchange for the type of server, then a
number for the amount of servers you will have
CHExchange1 CHFile1, etc.
makes so much more sense to me. i know where it is, and what it is.

-Original Message-
From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 10:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server naming

At my last job, we used golf related terms.  Eagle, Putter, Driver, Wedge,
Bunker, etc... at the job before that, we used superheroes.
Superman, Spiderman, etc.

Currently, we're using role based names, which I actually don't like, as it
makes it that much easier for a hacker to know where to go for the info he's
looking for...

Joe Heaton

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 8:21 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Server naming

On Jan 31, 2008 10:22 AM, David Lum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Attacking server naming conventions again, how do you guys name your
> servers?

Depends on the nature of the organization.  For larger organizations, or
if you have lots of servers, a name based on the site, function and a number
tend to be the only way to go, especially with the flat naming system
Windows still uses internally.

For smaller shops with the right attitude (like my current employer), I
tend to go with more interesting names, with a theme.
Small shops almost always have all their servers being multi-purpose.
Naming everything "SRV1", "SRV2", and so on tends to be confusing.
For example, at my current main gig, we've got TIGER, PUMA, LION, COUGAR,
and NTSERVER.  (Can you guess which one has the legacy app that just don't
die? ;-) )  At my last main gig, we used Simpsons characters.  This doesn't
scale up to large orgs, though, and if the place has a stuffy attitude it's
not appropriate, either.  For the latter, I usually just use "ORGSVR1" or
whatever.

RFC-1178 has some advice on this, although it's oriented more towards DNS,
where the tree structure makes naming conflicts less of an issue.

> Currently we use location and function in the name, but what about a
> server that does more than one thing?

Use a more generic name, like "SRV" or "UTIL" or whatever.  Indeed, if
it's at all likely a server will be tasked with multiple things, I always
try to go with the more generic name.  A server named one thing that's
really doing more is misleading.  Worse is when the original task then gets
moved off, and now you have a server named "DC1" that isn't a DC anymore, or
so

RE: Photoshop CS3

[Greg Olson]

You probably just bought the media, and not an actual license. I've done that 
before by mistake.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 2:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Photoshop CS3

Photoshop CS3 for 20.00 bucks.  Better verify what you are ordering, cause 
photoshop is DEFINTELY not 20.00 bucks a license.  Maybe the CD pack, but not 
the license.

-Original Message-
From: Za Vue [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 4:58 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Photoshop CS3

The CD I received said Photoshop CS3. Nothing about Extended or Bridge. That
is alright since we get them for $20 a piece I will order another one.

Z.V.

-Original Message-
From: Andy Ognenoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 4:48 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Photoshop CS3

Bridge is a standalone app in the Photoshop family (comes bundled with PS)
that is used for browsing through images.  It shows previews, metadata, and
allows you to flag and sort your images.  Extended includes the ability to
do 3D modeling and motion content editing.  You probably just want plain old
Photoshop CS3 (but realize that Bridge comes with it - it's not available
separately - so you probably bought the right thing.)

 - Andy O. 

From: Za Vue [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 3:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: Photoshop CS3

Afternoon all,

Can someone tell me what is the different between Photoshop CS3, Photoshop
CS3 Extended, and Photoshop CS3, Bridges? I ordered Photoshop from CDW
and what was installed was PS CS3 Bridge.  I don't use it. I am just testing
it for my users. I want to make sure I ordered the right version.

-Z.V.
 












 












 












 












 
 
 
    
 
 












 












 
 
    
 
 












 
 
    
 
 






 
    















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RE: Photoshop CS3

[John Cook]

Adobe has only given token discounts to Non-profits, I seriously doubt they 
will let CS3 go for $20 even to a Edu but I could be wrong.

John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 5:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Photoshop CS3

Photoshop CS3 for 20.00 bucks.  Better verify what you are ordering, cause 
photoshop is DEFINTELY not 20.00 bucks a license.  Maybe the CD pack, but not 
the license.

-Original Message-
From: Za Vue [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 4:58 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Photoshop CS3

The CD I received said Photoshop CS3. Nothing about Extended or Bridge. That
is alright since we get them for $20 a piece I will order another one.

Z.V.

-Original Message-
From: Andy Ognenoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 4:48 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Photoshop CS3

Bridge is a standalone app in the Photoshop family (comes bundled with PS)
that is used for browsing through images.  It shows previews, metadata, and
allows you to flag and sort your images.  Extended includes the ability to
do 3D modeling and motion content editing.  You probably just want plain old
Photoshop CS3 (but realize that Bridge comes with it - it's not available
separately - so you probably bought the right thing.)

 - Andy O.

From: Za Vue [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 3:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: Photoshop CS3

Afternoon all,

Can someone tell me what is the different between Photoshop CS3, Photoshop
CS3 Extended, and Photoshop CS3, Bridges? I ordered Photoshop from CDW
and what was installed was PS CS3 Bridge.  I don't use it. I am just testing
it for my users. I want to make sure I ordered the right version.

-Z.V.
































































































































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RE: Big log file

[Ames Matthew B]

ultraedit like large files



From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 05 February 2008 20:04
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Big log file




Copy the log file to your PC and use Word?

 

Andy



From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 3:02 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Big log file

 

 

Anyone have any useful ideas on how to open a 250MB log file?  I tried
opening it in Wordpad, but it gets stuck around 75%.  It's a file level
log of a backup job, which normally backs up around 420,000 files.
There's a discrepancy on the summary report, of about 20 files, between
what it says it looks at, filters out, and actually backs up.  The
company has no idea what those 20 files could be, and they're probably
no big deal, but I want to know what the backup isn't backing up...

 

Joe Heaton

AISA

Employment Training Panel

1100 J Street, 4th Floor

Sacramento, CA  95814

(916) 327-5276

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RE: Photoshop CS3

[Andy Ognenoff]

>Photoshop CS3 for 20.00 bucks.  Better verify what you are ordering, cause
>photoshop is DEFINTELY not 20.00 bucks a license.  Maybe the CD pack, but
>not the license.

Notice he is a .edu :) so maybe...

>The CD I received said Photoshop CS3. Nothing about Extended or Bridge.

Bridge is part of the PS install, it wouldn't have its own CD.  Look for the
PS icon - it probably installed somewhere. See if you have "C:\Program
Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop CS3\Photoshop.exe"

 - Andy O.


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RE: Objective small business security resources

[kenw]

That was a good response.  We're already doing those things, although
I'm looking hard at ways to do them better.  

I hesitate to mention firewalls, because people seem to get jumped on if
they are perceived as thinking that's all they need.  But... firewalls
are Necessary But Not Sufficient, and I'm not satisfied with my current
solution to that aspect of security.  I need to address that.

Low end firewalls don't offer near the packet inspection and other
functionality I'd like to see, and the higher end ones I've used (like
Cisco) tend to be too expensive in terms of both management time
overhead and capital cost.  

I want a firewall that actually understands something of the protocols
it allowa through, and can detect password guessing attempts on a number
of protocols.  I reeealy hate opening up ports for the bots to hammer on
without good packet inspection, and I just do not have and cannot afford
the time to cover all the details manually.

I see a lot of talk about SonicWall (they burned me once), WatchGuard,
Astaro, Untangle, ISA Server, etc.  People talk a lot about what the
like or don't, but hardly anyone seems to know what they actually do.
>From what I've seen, I haven't been all that impressed.  I liked the
Cisco 1841 with IOS IPS, but it was buggy and very time-consuming.  If I
spent that kind of time on all the contenders, I might as well switch
careers.

Maybe I'm a paranoid iconoclast.  Probably.

Do you know of anyone who can speak knowledgeably about firewall
products appropriate for one-server-no-IT-staff small business?

/kenw

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Re: Photoshop CS3

[Ben Scott]

On Feb 5, 2008 5:16 PM, John Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Adobe has only given token discounts to Non-profits, I seriously doubt
> they will let CS3 go for $20 even to a Edu ...

  It may depend on the deal the school negotiates.  If the school
agrees to teach all their graphics/arts/design classes using Adobe
products, Adobe might (rightly) see that as a pretty good deal.  The
school is essentially paying Adobe to do their marketing for them.

-- Ben

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RE: OT (was RE: lsass.exe question)

[Tim Vander Kooi]

Just to be clear, no offense was intended to the estimable Mrs.
Shookiemonster (who is above all reproach). All offense was intended
solely for the Shookster himself.  :-P

 

From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 3:07 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT (was RE: lsass.exe question)

 

 

When my wife was pregnant we joked to people that "we'll be excited when
we find out who the mother is" J

 

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 12:54 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: lsass.exe question

 

 

He'll be happier once they figure out who the father is...

 

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 2:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: lsass.exe question

 

 

Let me ask my  Exchange Admin here what he used to track it down. 

 

How your Wife doing. 

 

I bet you happy to be a Daddy for the 3rd time

 

How you digging VMware so far? 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

Netwok Engineer

Lifespan Organization

MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA

Phone: 401-639-3505

-Original Message-
From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 3:41 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: lsass.exe question
Importance: High

 

 

Any advice on how I can find out the user (I have an idea but it's a
C-level and I'll need documentation)?

 

Andy



From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 3:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: lsass.exe question

 

 

Google Desktop has caused spikes in Exchange 2003 here also, with the
indexing operations and its constant communications with the Exchange
server, so that very well might be your issue.  We just flat out ban
Goog Earth/Desktop and all that now, due to the issues. 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

Netwok Engineer

Lifespan Organization

MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA

Phone: 401-639-3505

-Original Message-
From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 1:44 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: lsass.exe question

 

 

Above mentioned process ran away and buried my Exchange server a few
minutes ago.  Still reviewing event logs but I'm wondering if someone
install google desktop search and it started to index his mail file
would that cause the lsass.exe spike?  Server is 2003 std. with Exchange
2003 std SP2 + all patches and is a DC\GC DNS and a few shares  

 

Andy Shook, IT Manager

Decision Support LLC

624 Matthews-Mint Hill Road

Matthews, NC 28105

p-704.844.1828

f-704.847.4875

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RE: Photoshop CS3

[gsweers]

Photoshop CS3 for 20.00 bucks.  Better verify what you are ordering, cause 
photoshop is DEFINTELY not 20.00 bucks a license.  Maybe the CD pack, but not 
the license.

-Original Message-
From: Za Vue [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 4:58 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Photoshop CS3

The CD I received said Photoshop CS3. Nothing about Extended or Bridge. That
is alright since we get them for $20 a piece I will order another one.

Z.V.

-Original Message-
From: Andy Ognenoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 4:48 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Photoshop CS3

Bridge is a standalone app in the Photoshop family (comes bundled with PS)
that is used for browsing through images.  It shows previews, metadata, and
allows you to flag and sort your images.  Extended includes the ability to
do 3D modeling and motion content editing.  You probably just want plain old
Photoshop CS3 (but realize that Bridge comes with it - it's not available
separately - so you probably bought the right thing.)

 - Andy O. 

From: Za Vue [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 3:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: Photoshop CS3

Afternoon all,

Can someone tell me what is the different between Photoshop CS3, Photoshop
CS3 Extended, and Photoshop CS3, Bridges? I ordered Photoshop from CDW
and what was installed was PS CS3 Bridge.  I don't use it. I am just testing
it for my users. I want to make sure I ordered the right version.

-Z.V.
 












 












 












 












 
 
 
    
 
 












 












 
 
    
 
 












 
 
    
 
 






 
    















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RE: Photoshop CS3

[Za Vue]

The CD I received said Photoshop CS3. Nothing about Extended or Bridge. That
is alright since we get them for $20 a piece I will order another one.

Z.V.

-Original Message-
From: Andy Ognenoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 4:48 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Photoshop CS3

Bridge is a standalone app in the Photoshop family (comes bundled with PS)
that is used for browsing through images.  It shows previews, metadata, and
allows you to flag and sort your images.  Extended includes the ability to
do 3D modeling and motion content editing.  You probably just want plain old
Photoshop CS3 (but realize that Bridge comes with it – it’s not available
separately - so you probably bought the right thing.)

 - Andy O. 

From: Za Vue [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 3:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: Photoshop CS3

Afternoon all,

Can someone tell me what is the different between Photoshop CS3, Photoshop
CS3 Extended, and Photoshop CS3, Bridges? I ordered Photoshop from CDW
and what was installed was PS CS3 Bridge.  I don’t use it. I am just testing
it for my users. I want to make sure I ordered the right version.

-Z.V.
 












 












 












 












 
 
 
    
 
 












 












 
 
    
 
 












 
 
    
 
 






 
    















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Re: Big log file

[Ben Scott]

On Feb 5, 2008 4:42 PM, Kurt Buff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> unxutils.sf.net seems to be moribund.

  Er, sorry.  The actual project downloads still work, if you go to
the SourceForge project page at .
What, doesn't everybody know that's how SF project pages work?  ;-)
And while unxutils maintenance is apparently dead, it's not like the
tools themselves are undergoing rapid flux.  :-)

> Try gunwin32.sf.net instead.

  I've also had http://sf.net/projects/wintools recommended to me, but
haven't tried that yet, either.  :)

-- Ben

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Re: Big log file

[Eric Woodford]

I personally like to use the MS SMS Trace32 (part of the toolkit). It allows
you to open large and live log files. Especially nice cuz doesn't screw up
my scripts if I watch the log file.. :)

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sms/bb676787.aspx



On Feb 5, 2008 12:01 PM, Joe Heaton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> Anyone have any useful ideas on how to open a 250MB log file?  I tried
> opening it in Wordpad, but it gets stuck around 75%.  It's a file level log
> of a backup job, which normally backs up around 420,000 files.  There's a
> discrepancy on the summary report, of about 20 files, between what it says
> it looks at, filters out, and actually backs up.  The company has no idea
> what those 20 files could be, and they're probably no big deal, but I want
> to know what the backup isn't backing up...
>
> Joe Heaton
> AISA
> Employment Training Panel
> 1100 J Street, 4th Floor
> Sacramento, CA  95814
> (916) 327-5276
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
>
>
>

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RE: Photoshop CS3

[Andy Ognenoff]

Bridge is a standalone app in the Photoshop family (comes bundled with PS)
that is used for browsing through images.  It shows previews, metadata, and
allows you to flag and sort your images.  Extended includes the ability to
do 3D modeling and motion content editing.  You probably just want plain old
Photoshop CS3 (but realize that Bridge comes with it – it’s not available
separately - so you probably bought the right thing.)

 - Andy O. 

From: Za Vue [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 3:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: Photoshop CS3

Afternoon all,

Can someone tell me what is the different between Photoshop CS3, Photoshop
CS3 Extended, and Photoshop CS3, Bridges? I ordered Photoshop from CDW
and what was installed was PS CS3 Bridge.  I don’t use it. I am just testing
it for my users. I want to make sure I ordered the right version.

-Z.V.
 












 












 












 












 
 
 
    
 
 












 












 
 
    
 
 












 
 
    
 
 






 
    















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Re: OT: Photoshop CS3

[Don Ely]

http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/compare/

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Re: Big log file

[Kurt Buff]

Ah, make that gnuwin32.sf.net.

Sorry for the typo.

On Feb 5, 2008 1:42 PM, Kurt Buff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> unxutils.sf.net seems to be moribund. Haven't been able to download
> anything from there for a while.
>
> Try gunwin32.sf.net instead.
>
>
> On Feb 5, 2008 12:50 PM, Ben Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Feb 5, 2008 3:01 PM, Joe Heaton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Anyone have any useful ideas on how to open a 250MB log file?
> >
> >   I use LESS.EXE (ported from the land of Unix) for such things.
> > Seems to work pretty well, although the UI is definitely "old school".
> >  :-)
> >
> >   I've been carrying around the tools from http://unxutils.sf.net for
> > years, and they still work.
> >
> > > It's a file level log of a backup job, which normally backs up around
> > > 420,000 files.  There's a discrepancy on the summary report, of
> > > about 20 files, between what it says it looks at, filters out, and
> > > actually backs up.
> >
> >   You could also try tools like FINDSTR (native) or GREP.EXE (again
> > ported) looking for strings such as "error" or "warning".
> >
> > -- Ben
> >
> >
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Re: Big log file

[Kurt Buff]

Cool!

Glad I could help.

On Feb 5, 2008 1:00 PM, Joe Heaton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That one worked Kurt.  I tried opening in Word, and exceeded the maximum
> pages (32,766 if anyone was interested).  pfe32 opened the file in
> seconds.  Unfortunately, there's no useful information in it, so I'm off
> to call the tech again, and rip him a new one...
>
>
> Joe Heaton
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 12:26 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Big log file
>
> I've been using pfe32.exe for years - it is free, but not open source,
> and is no longer maintained.
>
> I'm sure there are better ones out there, but I have used it to open
> files as large as 1gb with relative ease - haven't tried anything
> larger, really.
>
> On Feb 5, 2008 12:01 PM, Joe Heaton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Anyone have any useful ideas on how to open a 250MB log file?  I tried
>
> > opening it in Wordpad, but it gets stuck around 75%.  It's a file
> > level log of a backup job, which normally backs up around 420,000
> > files.  There's a discrepancy on the summary report, of about 20
> > files, between what it says it looks at, filters out, and actually
> > backs up.  The company has no idea what those 20 files could be, and
> > they're probably no big deal, but I want to know what the backup isn't
> backing up...
> >
> > Joe Heaton
> > AISA
> > Employment Training Panel
> > 1100 J Street, 4th Floor
> > Sacramento, CA  95814
> > (916) 327-5276
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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OT: Photoshop CS3

[Za Vue]

 
 
Afternoon all,
 
Can someone tell me what is the different between Photoshop CS3, Photoshop
CS3 Extended, and Photoshop CS3, Bridges? I ordered Photoshop from CDW and
what was installed was PS CS3 Bridge.  I don't use it. I am just testing it
for my users. I want to make sure I ordered the right version.
 
-Z.V.
 




























 




























 




























 




























 
 
 

 
 




























 




























 
 

 
 




























 
 

 
 














 

 
 







 


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Re: Big log file

[Kurt Buff]

unxutils.sf.net seems to be moribund. Haven't been able to download
anything from there for a while.

Try gunwin32.sf.net instead.

On Feb 5, 2008 12:50 PM, Ben Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Feb 5, 2008 3:01 PM, Joe Heaton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Anyone have any useful ideas on how to open a 250MB log file?
>
>   I use LESS.EXE (ported from the land of Unix) for such things.
> Seems to work pretty well, although the UI is definitely "old school".
>  :-)
>
>   I've been carrying around the tools from http://unxutils.sf.net for
> years, and they still work.
>
> > It's a file level log of a backup job, which normally backs up around
> > 420,000 files.  There's a discrepancy on the summary report, of
> > about 20 files, between what it says it looks at, filters out, and
> > actually backs up.
>
>   You could also try tools like FINDSTR (native) or GREP.EXE (again
> ported) looking for strings such as "error" or "warning".
>
> -- Ben
>
>
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RE: Recall: lsass.exe question

[Ziots, Edward]

Yep I am aware, I wanted to see your priceless expressions :-) 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

Netwok Engineer

Lifespan Organization

MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA

Phone: 401-639-3505

-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 4:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Recall: lsass.exe question

 

 

I just meant - are you aware that there is zero chance that recall will
work once it has left your internet boundary?

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

MCSE/Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 4:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Recall: lsass.exe question

 

 

Nope I aint..

 

I am at least somewhat respectful of Shooks Privacy, even if TVK wasn't
to trample all over it :-) 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

Netwok Engineer

Lifespan Organization

MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA

Phone: 401-639-3505

-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 4:12 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Recall: lsass.exe question

 

 

You gotta be kidding!

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

MCSE/Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 4:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Recall: lsass.exe question

 

 

The sender would like to recall the message, "lsass.exe question". 

 

 










 










 










 










 
 
 


 

 










 










 
 


 

 










 
 


 

 





 


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RE: Recall: lsass.exe question

[Michael B. Smith]

I just meant - are you aware that there is zero chance that recall will work
once it has left your internet boundary?

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

MCSE/Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 4:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Recall: lsass.exe question

 

 

Nope I aint..

 

I am at least somewhat respectful of Shooks Privacy, even if TVK wasn't to
trample all over it J 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

Netwok Engineer

Lifespan Organization

MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA

Phone: 401-639-3505

-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 4:12 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Recall: lsass.exe question

 

 

You gotta be kidding!

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

MCSE/Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 4:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Recall: lsass.exe question

 

 

The sender would like to recall the message, "lsass.exe question". 

 

 




























 
 


 

 














 


 

 







 


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RE: lsass.exe question

[John Cook]

NO! you can't have it back!

John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 4:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Recall: lsass.exe question
Importance: High




The sender would like to recall the message, "lsass.exe question".













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RE: Recall: lsass.exe question

[Ziots, Edward]

Nope I aint..

 

I am at least somewhat respectful of Shooks Privacy, even if TVK wasn't
to trample all over it :-) 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

Netwok Engineer

Lifespan Organization

MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA

Phone: 401-639-3505

-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 4:12 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Recall: lsass.exe question

 

 

You gotta be kidding!

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

MCSE/Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 4:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Recall: lsass.exe question

 

 

The sender would like to recall the message, "lsass.exe question". 

 

 










 
 


 

 





 


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RE: Recall: lsass.exe question

[Michael B. Smith]

You gotta be kidding!

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

MCSE/Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 4:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Recall: lsass.exe question

 





The sender would like to recall the message, "lsass.exe question". 

 

 







 


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RE: lsass.exe question

[Tim Vander Kooi]

Is that the same line you crossed with my Momma years ago??? :-P

 

From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 3:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: lsass.exe question

 

 

 

 

There's the line, you crossed it.

 

Andy



From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 3:54 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: lsass.exe question

 

 

He'll be happier once they figure out who the father is...

 

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 2:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: lsass.exe question

 

 

Let me ask my  Exchange Admin here what he used to track it down. 

 

How your Wife doing. 

 

I bet you happy to be a Daddy for the 3rd time

 

How you digging VMware so far? 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

Netwok Engineer

Lifespan Organization

MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA

Phone: 401-639-3505

-Original Message-
From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 3:41 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: lsass.exe question
Importance: High

 

 

Any advice on how I can find out the user (I have an idea but it's a
C-level and I'll need documentation)?

 

Andy



From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 3:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: lsass.exe question

 

 

Google Desktop has caused spikes in Exchange 2003 here also, with the
indexing operations and its constant communications with the Exchange
server, so that very well might be your issue.  We just flat out ban
Goog Earth/Desktop and all that now, due to the issues. 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

Netwok Engineer

Lifespan Organization

MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA

Phone: 401-639-3505

-Original Message-
From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 1:44 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: lsass.exe question

 

 

Above mentioned process ran away and buried my Exchange server a few
minutes ago.  Still reviewing event logs but I'm wondering if someone
install google desktop search and it started to index his mail file
would that cause the lsass.exe spike?  Server is 2003 std. with Exchange
2003 std SP2 + all patches and is a DC\GC DNS and a few shares  

 

Andy Shook, IT Manager

Decision Support LLC

624 Matthews-Mint Hill Road

Matthews, NC 28105

p-704.844.1828

f-704.847.4875

e- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  

 

 

 










 










 
 










 










 
 










 










 
 










 










 
 
 










 










 
 










 










 
 










 










 
 










 










 
 
 
 


 

 










 










 
 










 










 
 










 










 
 










 










 
 
 
 


 

 










 










 
 










 










 
 
 


 

 










 










 
 
 


 

 










 
 


 

 





 


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RE: Recall: lsass.exe question

[Louis, Joe]

Good luck with that :)

  _  

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 4:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Recall: lsass.exe question




The sender would like to recall the message, "lsass.exe question". 













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OT (was RE: lsass.exe question)

[David Lum]

When my wife was pregnant we joked to people that "we'll be excited when
we find out who the mother is" J

 

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 12:54 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: lsass.exe question

 

 

He'll be happier once they figure out who the father is...

 

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 2:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: lsass.exe question

 

 

Let me ask my  Exchange Admin here what he used to track it down. 

 

How your Wife doing. 

 

I bet you happy to be a Daddy for the 3rd time

 

How you digging VMware so far? 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

Netwok Engineer

Lifespan Organization

MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA

Phone: 401-639-3505

-Original Message-
From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 3:41 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: lsass.exe question
Importance: High

 

 

Any advice on how I can find out the user (I have an idea but it's a
C-level and I'll need documentation)?

 

Andy



From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 3:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: lsass.exe question

 

 

Google Desktop has caused spikes in Exchange 2003 here also, with the
indexing operations and its constant communications with the Exchange
server, so that very well might be your issue.  We just flat out ban
Goog Earth/Desktop and all that now, due to the issues. 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

Netwok Engineer

Lifespan Organization

MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA

Phone: 401-639-3505

-Original Message-
From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 1:44 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: lsass.exe question

 

 

Above mentioned process ran away and buried my Exchange server a few
minutes ago.  Still reviewing event logs but I'm wondering if someone
install google desktop search and it started to index his mail file
would that cause the lsass.exe spike?  Server is 2003 std. with Exchange
2003 std SP2 + all patches and is a DC\GC DNS and a few shares  

 

Andy Shook, IT Manager

Decision Support LLC

624 Matthews-Mint Hill Road

Matthews, NC 28105

p-704.844.1828

f-704.847.4875

e- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  

 

 

 










 










 










 










 
 










 










 










 










 
 
 


 

 










 










 










 










 
 
 


 

 










 










 
 


 

 










 
 


 

 





 


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Recall: lsass.exe question

[Ziots, Edward]

The sender would like to recall the message, "lsass.exe question".

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Recall: lsass.exe question

[Ziots, Edward]

The sender would like to recall the message, "lsass.exe question".

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RE: Big log file

[Andy Shook]

Rip = show

Shook
http://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshook  

-Original Message-
From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 4:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Big log file

That one worked Kurt.  I tried opening in Word, and exceeded the maximum
pages (32,766 if anyone was interested).  pfe32 opened the file in
seconds.  Unfortunately, there's no useful information in it, so I'm off
to call the tech again, and rip him a new one... 


Joe Heaton


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RE: Big log file

[Joe Heaton]

That one worked Kurt.  I tried opening in Word, and exceeded the maximum
pages (32,766 if anyone was interested).  pfe32 opened the file in
seconds.  Unfortunately, there's no useful information in it, so I'm off
to call the tech again, and rip him a new one... 


Joe Heaton

-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 12:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Big log file

I've been using pfe32.exe for years - it is free, but not open source,
and is no longer maintained.

I'm sure there are better ones out there, but I have used it to open
files as large as 1gb with relative ease - haven't tried anything
larger, really.

On Feb 5, 2008 12:01 PM, Joe Heaton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> Anyone have any useful ideas on how to open a 250MB log file?  I tried

> opening it in Wordpad, but it gets stuck around 75%.  It's a file 
> level log of a backup job, which normally backs up around 420,000 
> files.  There's a discrepancy on the summary report, of about 20 
> files, between what it says it looks at, filters out, and actually 
> backs up.  The company has no idea what those 20 files could be, and 
> they're probably no big deal, but I want to know what the backup isn't
backing up...
>
> Joe Heaton
> AISA
> Employment Training Panel
> 1100 J Street, 4th Floor
> Sacramento, CA  95814
> (916) 327-5276
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: lsass.exe question

[Fogarty, Richard R Mr CTR USA USASOC]

Congrats.

 

From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 3:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: lsass.exe question

 

 

Dang, Z.  Thanks for bringing the whole freakin' list into my personal life.
Sheesh.

 

Oh well, 

Wife is doing as good as to be expected for being 8.5 months preggers

 

Shookie #3 (a girl-Ava Riley) is being induced on 2/13 due to size.  My son
was 10lbs even at one week early and she is measuring bigger than that.

 

VMWare is still awesome, really enjoying it.  

 

Shook

http://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshook  

  _  

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 3:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: lsass.exe question

 

 

Let me ask my  Exchange Admin here what he used to track it down. 

 

How your Wife doing. 

 

I bet you happy to be a Daddy for the 3rd time..

 

How you digging VMware so far? 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

Netwok Engineer

Lifespan Organization

MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA

Phone: 401-639-3505

-Original Message-
From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 3:41 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: lsass.exe question
Importance: High

 

 

Any advice on how I can find out the user (I have an idea but it's a C-level
and I'll need documentation)?

 

Andy

  _  

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 3:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: lsass.exe question

 

 

Google Desktop has caused spikes in Exchange 2003 here also, with the
indexing operations and its constant communications with the Exchange
server, so that very well might be your issue.  We just flat out ban Goog
Earth/Desktop and all that now, due to the issues. 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

Netwok Engineer

Lifespan Organization

MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA

Phone: 401-639-3505

-Original Message-
From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 1:44 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: lsass.exe question

 

 

Above mentioned process ran away and buried my Exchange server a few minutes
ago.  Still reviewing event logs but I'm wondering if someone install google
desktop search and it started to index his mail file would that cause the
lsass.exe spike?  Server is 2003 std. with Exchange 2003 std SP2 + all
patches and is a DC\GC DNS and a few shares..  

 

Andy Shook, IT Manager

Decision Support LLC

624 Matthews-Mint Hill Road

Matthews, NC 28105

p-704.844.1828

f-704.847.4875

e-   [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 

 

 














 














 














 














 
 














 














 














 














 
 
 


 

 














 














 














 














 
 
 


 

 














 














 
 


 

 














 
 


 

 







 


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RE: lsass.exe question

[Andy Shook]

 

 

There's the line, you crossed it.

 

Andy



From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 3:54 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: lsass.exe question

 

 

He'll be happier once they figure out who the father is...

 

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 2:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: lsass.exe question

 

 

Let me ask my  Exchange Admin here what he used to track it down. 

 

How your Wife doing. 

 

I bet you happy to be a Daddy for the 3rd time

 

How you digging VMware so far? 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

Netwok Engineer

Lifespan Organization

MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA

Phone: 401-639-3505

-Original Message-
From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 3:41 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: lsass.exe question
Importance: High

 

 

Any advice on how I can find out the user (I have an idea but it's a
C-level and I'll need documentation)?

 

Andy



From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 3:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: lsass.exe question

 

 

Google Desktop has caused spikes in Exchange 2003 here also, with the
indexing operations and its constant communications with the Exchange
server, so that very well might be your issue.  We just flat out ban
Goog Earth/Desktop and all that now, due to the issues. 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

Netwok Engineer

Lifespan Organization

MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA

Phone: 401-639-3505

-Original Message-
From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 1:44 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: lsass.exe question

 

 

Above mentioned process ran away and buried my Exchange server a few
minutes ago.  Still reviewing event logs but I'm wondering if someone
install google desktop search and it started to index his mail file
would that cause the lsass.exe spike?  Server is 2003 std. with Exchange
2003 std SP2 + all patches and is a DC\GC DNS and a few shares  

 

Andy Shook, IT Manager

Decision Support LLC

624 Matthews-Mint Hill Road

Matthews, NC 28105

p-704.844.1828

f-704.847.4875

e- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  

 

 

 










 










 










 










 
 










 










 










 










 
 
 


 

 










 










 










 










 
 
 


 

 










 










 
 


 

 










 
 


 

 





 


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Re: lsass.exe question

[Salvador Manzo]

Also interested.  Haven¹t been able to  hammer down if my performance issues
are Windows Mobile related, Entourage related or an indexing service.


On 2/5/08 12:41 PM, "Andy Shook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  
> Any advice on how I can find out the user (I have an idea but it¹s a C-level
> and I¹ll need documentation)?
>  
> 
> Andy
> 
> 
> From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 3:38 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: lsass.exe question
>  
>  
> Google Desktop has caused spikes in Exchange 2003 here also, with the indexing
> operations and its constant communications with the Exchange server, so that
> very well might be your issue.  We just flat out ban Goog Earth/Desktop and
> all that now, due to the issues.
>  
> Z
>  
> 
> Edward E. Ziots
> Netwok Engineer
> Lifespan Organization
> MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA
> Phone: 401-639-3505
> -Original Message-
> From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 1:44 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: lsass.exe question
>  
>  
> Above mentioned process ran away and buried my Exchange server a few minutes
> ago.  Still reviewing event logs but I¹m wondering if someone install google
> desktop search and it started to index his mail file would that cause the
> lsass.exe spike?  Server is 2003 std. with Exchange 2003 std SP2 + all patches
> and is a DC\GC DNS and a few sharesS.
>  
> Andy Shook, IT Manager
> Decision Support LLC 
> 624 Matthews-Mint Hill Road
> Matthews, NC 28105
> p-704.844.1828
> f-704.847.4875
> e- [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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> Salvador Manzo  [ 620 W. 35th St - Los Angeles, CA 90089  e. [EMAIL 
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> Auxiliary Services IT, Datacenter
> University of Southern California
> 818-612-5112


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RE: lsass.exe question

[Tim Vander Kooi]

He'll be happier once they figure out who the father is...

 

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 2:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: lsass.exe question

 

 

Let me ask my  Exchange Admin here what he used to track it down. 

 

How your Wife doing. 

 

I bet you happy to be a Daddy for the 3rd time

 

How you digging VMware so far? 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

Netwok Engineer

Lifespan Organization

MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA

Phone: 401-639-3505

-Original Message-
From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 3:41 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: lsass.exe question
Importance: High

 

 

Any advice on how I can find out the user (I have an idea but it's a
C-level and I'll need documentation)?

 

Andy



From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 3:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: lsass.exe question

 

 

Google Desktop has caused spikes in Exchange 2003 here also, with the
indexing operations and its constant communications with the Exchange
server, so that very well might be your issue.  We just flat out ban
Goog Earth/Desktop and all that now, due to the issues. 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

Netwok Engineer

Lifespan Organization

MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA

Phone: 401-639-3505

-Original Message-
From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 1:44 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: lsass.exe question

 

 

Above mentioned process ran away and buried my Exchange server a few
minutes ago.  Still reviewing event logs but I'm wondering if someone
install google desktop search and it started to index his mail file
would that cause the lsass.exe spike?  Server is 2003 std. with Exchange
2003 std SP2 + all patches and is a DC\GC DNS and a few shares  

 

Andy Shook, IT Manager

Decision Support LLC

624 Matthews-Mint Hill Road

Matthews, NC 28105

p-704.844.1828

f-704.847.4875

e- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  

 

 

 




















 




















 
 


 

 




















 
 


 

 










 


 

 





 


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RE: lsass.exe question

[Andy Shook]

Dang, Z.  Thanks for bringing the whole freakin' list into my personal
life.  Sheesh.

 

Oh well, 

Wife is doing as good as to be expected for being 8.5 months preggers

 

Shookie #3 (a girl-Ava Riley) is being induced on 2/13 due to size.  My
son was 10lbs even at one week early and she is measuring bigger than
that.

 

VMWare is still awesome, really enjoying it.  

 

Shook

http://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshook  



From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 3:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: lsass.exe question

 

 

Let me ask my  Exchange Admin here what he used to track it down. 

 

How your Wife doing. 

 

I bet you happy to be a Daddy for the 3rd time

 

How you digging VMware so far? 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

Netwok Engineer

Lifespan Organization

MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA

Phone: 401-639-3505

-Original Message-
From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 3:41 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: lsass.exe question
Importance: High

 

 

Any advice on how I can find out the user (I have an idea but it's a
C-level and I'll need documentation)?

 

Andy



From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 3:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: lsass.exe question

 

 

Google Desktop has caused spikes in Exchange 2003 here also, with the
indexing operations and its constant communications with the Exchange
server, so that very well might be your issue.  We just flat out ban
Goog Earth/Desktop and all that now, due to the issues. 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

Netwok Engineer

Lifespan Organization

MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA

Phone: 401-639-3505

-Original Message-
From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 1:44 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: lsass.exe question

 

 

Above mentioned process ran away and buried my Exchange server a few
minutes ago.  Still reviewing event logs but I'm wondering if someone
install google desktop search and it started to index his mail file
would that cause the lsass.exe spike?  Server is 2003 std. with Exchange
2003 std SP2 + all patches and is a DC\GC DNS and a few shares  

 

Andy Shook, IT Manager

Decision Support LLC

624 Matthews-Mint Hill Road

Matthews, NC 28105

p-704.844.1828

f-704.847.4875

e- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  

 

 

 




















 




















 
 


 

 




















 
 


 

 










 


 

 





 


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Re: Big log file

[Ben Scott]

On Feb 5, 2008 3:01 PM, Joe Heaton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Anyone have any useful ideas on how to open a 250MB log file?

  I use LESS.EXE (ported from the land of Unix) for such things.
Seems to work pretty well, although the UI is definitely "old school".
 :-)

  I've been carrying around the tools from http://unxutils.sf.net for
years, and they still work.

> It's a file level log of a backup job, which normally backs up around
> 420,000 files.  There's a discrepancy on the summary report, of
> about 20 files, between what it says it looks at, filters out, and
> actually backs up.

  You could also try tools like FINDSTR (native) or GREP.EXE (again
ported) looking for strings such as "error" or "warning".

-- Ben

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Re: lsass.exe question

[Micheal Espinola Jr]

You should be able to nail this down with the Exchange Server User Monitor tool:

http://www.microsoft.com/Downloads/details.aspx?familyid=9A49C22E-E0C7-4B7C-ACEF-729D48AF7BC9&displaylang=en

More info:

http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2005/04/06/403409.aspx


On Feb 5, 2008 3:41 PM, Andy Shook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 3:38 PM
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> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: lsass.exe question
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> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: lsass.exe question
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> Google Desktop has caused spikes in Exchange 2003 here also, with the
> indexing operations and its constant communications with the Exchange
> server, so that very well might be your issue.  We just flat out ban Goog
> Earth/Desktop and all that now, due to the issues.
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> Edward E. Ziots
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> Netwok Engineer
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> Lifespan Organization
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> MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA
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> Phone: 401-639-3505
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 1:44 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: lsass.exe question
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>
> Above mentioned process ran away and buried my Exchange server a few minutes
> ago.  Still reviewing event logs but I'm wondering if someone install google
> desktop search and it started to index his mail file would that cause the
> lsass.exe spike?  Server is 2003 std. with Exchange 2003 std SP2 + all
> patches and is a DC\GC DNS and a few shares….
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> Andy Shook, IT Manager
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> Decision Support LLC
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> 624 Matthews-Mint Hill Road
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Re: Big log file

[Phil Brutsche]

Or Notepad++

http://notepad-plus.sourceforge.net/uk/site.htm

Howard J Coates wrote:
> Try textpad (www.textpad.com)

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RE: lsass.exe question

[Ziots, Edward]

Let me ask my  Exchange Admin here what he used to track it down. 

 

How your Wife doing. 

 

I bet you happy to be a Daddy for the 3rd time

 

How you digging VMware so far? 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

Netwok Engineer

Lifespan Organization

MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA

Phone: 401-639-3505

-Original Message-
From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 3:41 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: lsass.exe question
Importance: High

 

 

Any advice on how I can find out the user (I have an idea but it's a
C-level and I'll need documentation)?

 

Andy



From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 3:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: lsass.exe question

 

 

Google Desktop has caused spikes in Exchange 2003 here also, with the
indexing operations and its constant communications with the Exchange
server, so that very well might be your issue.  We just flat out ban
Goog Earth/Desktop and all that now, due to the issues. 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

Netwok Engineer

Lifespan Organization

MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA

Phone: 401-639-3505

-Original Message-
From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 1:44 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: lsass.exe question

 

 

Above mentioned process ran away and buried my Exchange server a few
minutes ago.  Still reviewing event logs but I'm wondering if someone
install google desktop search and it started to index his mail file
would that cause the lsass.exe spike?  Server is 2003 std. with Exchange
2003 std SP2 + all patches and is a DC\GC DNS and a few shares  

 

Andy Shook, IT Manager

Decision Support LLC

624 Matthews-Mint Hill Road

Matthews, NC 28105

p-704.844.1828

f-704.847.4875

e- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  

 

 

 










 










 
 


 

 










 
 


 

 





 


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RE: lsass.exe question

[Andy Shook]

Any advice on how I can find out the user (I have an idea but it's a
C-level and I'll need documentation)?

 

Andy



From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 3:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: lsass.exe question

 

 

Google Desktop has caused spikes in Exchange 2003 here also, with the
indexing operations and its constant communications with the Exchange
server, so that very well might be your issue.  We just flat out ban
Goog Earth/Desktop and all that now, due to the issues. 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

Netwok Engineer

Lifespan Organization

MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA

Phone: 401-639-3505

-Original Message-
From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 1:44 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: lsass.exe question

 

 

Above mentioned process ran away and buried my Exchange server a few
minutes ago.  Still reviewing event logs but I'm wondering if someone
install google desktop search and it started to index his mail file
would that cause the lsass.exe spike?  Server is 2003 std. with Exchange
2003 std SP2 + all patches and is a DC\GC DNS and a few shares  

 

Andy Shook, IT Manager

Decision Support LLC

624 Matthews-Mint Hill Road

Matthews, NC 28105

p-704.844.1828

f-704.847.4875

e- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  

 

 

 










 


 

 





 


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RE: Server naming

[Ziots, Edward]

Probably not wrong, 

 

But it all depends on how you manage your users, and usually its by
department/group/building/site etc etc. 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

Netwok Engineer

Lifespan Organization

MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA

Phone: 401-639-3505

-Original Message-
From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 1:45 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server naming

 

 

I am by far no AD expert, and have limited multi-site experience, but
I've been taught that OU's should be aligned to allow easy
administration of each site.

 

I could be wrong?

 

The OU hierarchy does not need to reflect the departmental hierarchy of
the organization or group. OUs are created for a specific purpose, such
as the delegation of administration, the application of Group Policy, or
to limit the visibility of objects.

 

Credits (watch wrappage)

http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserver/en/library/7c66e932-5c5b-4f0
e-8e4a-c705ff7d95c11033.mspx?mfr=true

 

Mr Butler, please note: I gave credit where credit was due this time.
;-P

 



From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 1:35 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server naming

 

Folks, 

 

OU's are organizational units, why in the world, wouldn't you align them
with the logical orientation of your network ( Whether it be buildings,
divisions, organizations etc etc). Yes Group policy is one benefit of
having OU's but Constrained/ delegated administration is another, and
there probably are about 5-10 more good reasons to have OU's. 

 

I don't know whom your instructor was and why he would say such things,
but OU's as you said should be flexible, and be used for what makes
sense to your network. 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

Netwok Engineer

Lifespan Organization

MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA

Phone: 401-639-3505

-Original Message-
From: Les B. Minaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 1:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server naming

 

 

I too, would like to know why.

 

I remember taking an MS AD course in which the instructor said that OU's
should not mirror the organizational structure of a company.

He was, however, unable to give me a "good enough" reason for that to be
100% true all the time. I believe that OU's should be organized

in a manner that provided sufficient flexibility with GPO's et cetera.
Nothing more, nothing less. What defines that flexibility is variable by
organization.

 

Les. 

 



From: Tim Vander Kooi
Sent: Mon 2/4/2008 5:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server naming

 

And there is nothing wrong with your way of doing it. I have my OUs set
by area so that I can use GPOs to install software from different
servers based on where they are located (not server based administration
as Ken mentions). It has worked fine for me for years. I was curious if
Ken had a reason for his blanket statement regarding how it shouldn't be
done. If a reason exists I would be interested to know what it is.

Tim

 

 

From: Webb, Brian (Corp) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 3:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server naming

 

 

I think what Tim is saying is the reason for creating new OUs is for
administration purposes.  The primary reason to create a new OU is to
facilitate delegating administration or assigning Group Policy.  We have
hundreds of servers, but fewer than 10 OUs for them.

 

-Brian

 

 



From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 2:53 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server naming

 

I'm curious why you say that Ken.

 

 

From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 4:07 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server naming

 

 

Unless you have server administration by region, you shouldn't be
organising your servers into regional specific OUs.

 

Cheers

Ken

 

From: MarvinC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, 1 February 2008 4:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Server naming

 

 

Makes a whole lot of sense for me too. Once you create your OU's and
place everything where they need to go then it gets even easier, for me
anyways. So if I need to see all systems in a particular region or
location I navigate to that function or location specific OU and go from
there. Keep it simple, seriously! If you're dumping everything into one
OU then I can see how it'd be a problem. 

 

On 1/31/08, Michael Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

I choose a 2 letter prefix for the location such as CH for Chicago, then
a
meaningful name after that like Exchange for the type of server, then a
number for the amount of servers you will have
CHExchange1 CHFile1, etc.
makes so much more sense to me. i know where it is, and what it is.

-Original

RE: lsass.exe question

[Ziots, Edward]

Google Desktop has caused spikes in Exchange 2003 here also, with the
indexing operations and its constant communications with the Exchange
server, so that very well might be your issue.  We just flat out ban
Goog Earth/Desktop and all that now, due to the issues. 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

Netwok Engineer

Lifespan Organization

MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA

Phone: 401-639-3505

-Original Message-
From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 1:44 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: lsass.exe question

 

 

Above mentioned process ran away and buried my Exchange server a few
minutes ago.  Still reviewing event logs but I'm wondering if someone
install google desktop search and it started to index his mail file
would that cause the lsass.exe spike?  Server is 2003 std. with Exchange
2003 std SP2 + all patches and is a DC\GC DNS and a few shares  

 

Andy Shook, IT Manager

Decision Support LLC

624 Matthews-Mint Hill Road

Matthews, NC 28105

p-704.844.1828

f-704.847.4875

e- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  

 

 

 





 


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RE: Big log file

[Fogarty, Richard R Mr CTR USA USASOC]

I use this... http://www.context.cx/

Has never failed me

-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 3:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Big log file

I've been using pfe32.exe for years - it is free, but not open source,
and is no longer maintained.

I'm sure there are better ones out there, but I have used it to open
files as large as 1gb with relative ease - haven't tried anything
larger, really.

On Feb 5, 2008 12:01 PM, Joe Heaton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> Anyone have any useful ideas on how to open a 250MB log file?  I tried
> opening it in Wordpad, but it gets stuck around 75%.  It's a file level
log
> of a backup job, which normally backs up around 420,000 files.  There's a
> discrepancy on the summary report, of about 20 files, between what it says
> it looks at, filters out, and actually backs up.  The company has no idea
> what those 20 files could be, and they're probably no big deal, but I want
> to know what the backup isn't backing up...
>
> Joe Heaton
> AISA
> Employment Training Panel
> 1100 J Street, 4th Floor
> Sacramento, CA  95814
> (916) 327-5276
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: Big log file

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-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 05 February 2008 20:26
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Big log file

I've been using pfe32.exe for years - it is free, but not open source,
and is no longer maintained.

I'm sure there are better ones out there, but I have used it to open
files as large as 1gb with relative ease - haven't tried anything
larger, really.

On Feb 5, 2008 12:01 PM, Joe Heaton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> Anyone have any useful ideas on how to open a 250MB log file?  I tried
> opening it in Wordpad, but it gets stuck around 75%.  It's a file level log
> of a backup job, which normally backs up around 420,000 files.  There's a
> discrepancy on the summary report, of about 20 files, between what it says
> it looks at, filters out, and actually backs up.  The company has no idea
> what those 20 files could be, and they're probably no big deal, but I want
> to know what the backup isn't backing up...
>
> Joe Heaton
> AISA
> Employment Training Panel
> 1100 J Street, 4th Floor
> Sacramento, CA  95814
> (916) 327-5276
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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Re: Big log file

[Kurt Buff]

I've been using pfe32.exe for years - it is free, but not open source,
and is no longer maintained.

I'm sure there are better ones out there, but I have used it to open
files as large as 1gb with relative ease - haven't tried anything
larger, really.

On Feb 5, 2008 12:01 PM, Joe Heaton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
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>
> Anyone have any useful ideas on how to open a 250MB log file?  I tried
> opening it in Wordpad, but it gets stuck around 75%.  It's a file level log
> of a backup job, which normally backs up around 420,000 files.  There's a
> discrepancy on the summary report, of about 20 files, between what it says
> it looks at, filters out, and actually backs up.  The company has no idea
> what those 20 files could be, and they're probably no big deal, but I want
> to know what the backup isn't backing up...
>
> Joe Heaton
> AISA
> Employment Training Panel
> 1100 J Street, 4th Floor
> Sacramento, CA  95814
> (916) 327-5276
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: lsass.exe question

[Bob Fronk]

I guess you know that lsass.exe will give some problems when Exchange is
installed on a DC, especially at shutdown.  (long delay at shutdown is
the most noticed)

 

My guess would be another application causing it, maybe google indexing
as you suspect.

 

From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 3:03 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: lsass.exe question

 

 

No.

 

Andy



From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 2:58 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: lsass.exe question

 

 

Symantec on it?

 

From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 1:44 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: lsass.exe question

 

 

Above mentioned process ran away and buried my Exchange server a few
minutes ago.  Still reviewing event logs but I'm wondering if someone
install google desktop search and it started to index his mail file
would that cause the lsass.exe spike?  Server is 2003 std. with Exchange
2003 std SP2 + all patches and is a DC\GC DNS and a few shares  

 

Andy Shook, IT Manager

Decision Support LLC

624 Matthews-Mint Hill Road

Matthews, NC 28105

p-704.844.1828

f-704.847.4875

e- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  

 

 

 










 










 
 
 


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Re: Big log file

[Micheal Espinola Jr]

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On Feb 5, 2008 3:01 PM, Joe Heaton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Anyone have any useful ideas on how to open a 250MB log file?  I tried
> opening it in Wordpad, but it gets stuck around 75%.  It's a file level log
> of a backup job, which normally backs up around 420,000 files.  There's a
> discrepancy on the summary report, of about 20 files, between what it says
> it looks at, filters out, and actually backs up.  The company has no idea
> what those 20 files could be, and they're probably no big deal, but I want
> to know what the backup isn't backing up...
>
> Joe Heaton
> AISA
> Employment Training Panel
> 1100 J Street, 4th Floor
> Sacramento, CA  95814
> (916) 327-5276
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: Big log file

[Kim Longenbaugh]

Try this:

http://www.textpad.com/products/textpad/features.html

 

 



From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 2:02 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Big log file

 

 

Anyone have any useful ideas on how to open a 250MB log file?  I tried
opening it in Wordpad, but it gets stuck around 75%.  It's a file level
log of a backup job, which normally backs up around 420,000 files.
There's a discrepancy on the summary report, of about 20 files, between
what it says it looks at, filters out, and actually backs up.  The
company has no idea what those 20 files could be, and they're probably
no big deal, but I want to know what the backup isn't backing up...

 

Joe Heaton

AISA

Employment Training Panel

1100 J Street, 4th Floor

Sacramento, CA  95814

(916) 327-5276

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

 

 





 


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RE: Big log file

[Andy Shook]

Copy the log file to your PC and use Word?

 

Andy



From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 3:02 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Big log file

 

 

Anyone have any useful ideas on how to open a 250MB log file?  I tried
opening it in Wordpad, but it gets stuck around 75%.  It's a file level
log of a backup job, which normally backs up around 420,000 files.
There's a discrepancy on the summary report, of about 20 files, between
what it says it looks at, filters out, and actually backs up.  The
company has no idea what those 20 files could be, and they're probably
no big deal, but I want to know what the backup isn't backing up...

 

Joe Heaton

AISA

Employment Training Panel

1100 J Street, 4th Floor

Sacramento, CA  95814

(916) 327-5276

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

 

 





 


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RE: lsass.exe question

[Andy Shook]

No.

 

Andy



From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 2:58 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: lsass.exe question

 

 

Symantec on it?

 

From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 1:44 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: lsass.exe question

 

 

Above mentioned process ran away and buried my Exchange server a few
minutes ago.  Still reviewing event logs but I'm wondering if someone
install google desktop search and it started to index his mail file
would that cause the lsass.exe spike?  Server is 2003 std. with Exchange
2003 std SP2 + all patches and is a DC\GC DNS and a few shares  

 

Andy Shook, IT Manager

Decision Support LLC

624 Matthews-Mint Hill Road

Matthews, NC 28105

p-704.844.1828

f-704.847.4875

e- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  

 

 

 










 
 


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Big log file

[Joe Heaton]

Anyone have any useful ideas on how to open a 250MB log file?  I tried
opening it in Wordpad, but it gets stuck around 75%.  It's a file level
log of a backup job, which normally backs up around 420,000 files.
There's a discrepancy on the summary report, of about 20 files, between
what it says it looks at, filters out, and actually backs up.  The
company has no idea what those 20 files could be, and they're probably
no big deal, but I want to know what the backup isn't backing up...
 
Joe Heaton
AISA
Employment Training Panel
1100 J Street, 4th Floor
Sacramento, CA  95814
(916) 327-5276
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RE: lsass.exe question

[Bob Fronk]

Symantec on it?

 

From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 1:44 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: lsass.exe question

 

 

Above mentioned process ran away and buried my Exchange server a few
minutes ago.  Still reviewing event logs but I'm wondering if someone
install google desktop search and it started to index his mail file
would that cause the lsass.exe spike?  Server is 2003 std. with Exchange
2003 std SP2 + all patches and is a DC\GC DNS and a few shares  

 

Andy Shook, IT Manager

Decision Support LLC

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Matthews, NC 28105

p-704.844.1828

f-704.847.4875

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RE: Server naming

[Troy Meyer]

Boy listen to you all!

Perhaps the difference in opinion comes from folks in different time lands.  
Enter NT4 and W2k domains where a limited number of objects pointed people 
towards multiple domains and few OUs.  I think I can remember technical 
documents talking about minimizing directory objects so that you don't 
literally run out.

Enter 2003 and moving forward.  Directory Objects are no longer an issue with 
regards to amount and so using OUs becomes more applicable.  In fact recent 
practice is to avoid multi domain forests as much as possible and start using 
OUs in instances of different companies under the same organizational umbrella 
(boy that makes life easier than trusts).

But like Ed said, the whole idea is to simply life for the administrator.  If 
any OU setup makes it easier to admin in any shape or form, then its successful.


-troy


From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 10:45 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server naming


I am by far no AD expert, and have limited multi-site experience, but I've been 
taught that OU's should be aligned to allow easy administration of each site.

I could be wrong?

The OU hierarchy does not need to reflect the departmental hierarchy of the 
organization or group. OUs are created for a specific purpose, such as the 
delegation of administration, the application of Group Policy, or to limit the 
visibility of objects.

Credits (watch wrappage)
http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserver/en/library/7c66e932-5c5b-4f0e-8e4a-c705ff7d95c11033.mspx?mfr=true

Mr Butler, please note: I gave credit where credit was due this time. ;-P


From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 1:35 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server naming

Folks,

OU's are organizational units, why in the world, wouldn't you align them with 
the logical orientation of your network ( Whether it be buildings, divisions, 
organizations etc etc). Yes Group policy is one benefit of having OU's but 
Constrained/ delegated administration is another, and there probably are about 
5-10 more good reasons to have OU's.

I don't know whom your instructor was and why he would say such things, but 
OU's as you said should be flexible, and be used for what makes sense to your 
network.

Z

Edward E. Ziots
Netwok Engineer
Lifespan Organization
MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA
Phone: 401-639-3505
-Original Message-
From: Les B. Minaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 1:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server naming


I too, would like to know why.

I remember taking an MS AD course in which the instructor said that OU's should 
not mirror the organizational structure of a company.
He was, however, unable to give me a "good enough" reason for that to be 100% 
true all the time. I believe that OU's should be organized
in a manner that provided sufficient flexibility with GPO's et cetera. Nothing 
more, nothing less. What defines that flexibility is variable by organization.

Les.


From: Tim Vander Kooi
Sent: Mon 2/4/2008 5:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server naming

And there is nothing wrong with your way of doing it. I have my OUs set by area 
so that I can use GPOs to install software from different servers based on 
where they are located (not server based administration as Ken mentions). It 
has worked fine for me for years. I was curious if Ken had a reason for his 
blanket statement regarding how it shouldn't be done. If a reason exists I 
would be interested to know what it is.
Tim


From: Webb, Brian (Corp) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 3:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server naming


I think what Tim is saying is the reason for creating new OUs is for 
administration purposes.  The primary reason to create a new OU is to 
facilitate delegating administration or assigning Group Policy.  We have 
hundreds of servers, but fewer than 10 OUs for them.

-Brian



From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 2:53 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server naming

I'm curious why you say that Ken.


From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 4:07 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server naming


Unless you have server administration by region, you shouldn't be organising 
your servers into regional specific OUs.

Cheers
Ken

From: MarvinC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 1 February 2008 4:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Server naming


Makes a whole lot of sense for me too. Once you create your OU's and place 
everything where they need to go then it gets even easier, for me anyways. So 
if I need to see all systems in a particular region or location I navigate to 
that function or location specifi

RE: Server naming

[Fogarty, Richard R Mr CTR USA USASOC]

Never heard that one before.  Have you ever found anything that
substantiates that?

 

From: Les B. Minaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 1:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server naming

 

 

I too, would like to know why.

 

I remember taking an MS AD course in which the instructor said that OU's
should not mirror the organizational structure of a company.

He was, however, unable to give me a "good enough" reason for that to be
100% true all the time. I believe that OU's should be organized

in a manner that provided sufficient flexibility with GPO's et cetera.
Nothing more, nothing less. What defines that flexibility is variable by
organization.

 

Les. 

 

  _  

From: Tim Vander Kooi
Sent: Mon 2/4/2008 5:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server naming

 

And there is nothing wrong with your way of doing it. I have my OUs set by
area so that I can use GPOs to install software from different servers based
on where they are located (not server based administration as Ken mentions).
It has worked fine for me for years. I was curious if Ken had a reason for
his blanket statement regarding how it shouldn't be done. If a reason exists
I would be interested to know what it is.

Tim

 

 

From: Webb, Brian (Corp) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 3:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server naming

 

 

I think what Tim is saying is the reason for creating new OUs is for
administration purposes.  The primary reason to create a new OU is to
facilitate delegating administration or assigning Group Policy.  We have
hundreds of servers, but fewer than 10 OUs for them.

 

-Brian

 

 

  _  

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 2:53 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server naming

 

I'm curious why you say that Ken.

 

 

From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 4:07 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server naming

 

 

Unless you have server administration by region, you shouldn't be organising
your servers into regional specific OUs.

 

Cheers

Ken

 

From: MarvinC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, 1 February 2008 4:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Server naming

 

 

Makes a whole lot of sense for me too. Once you create your OU's and place
everything where they need to go then it gets even easier, for me anyways.
So if I need to see all systems in a particular region or location I
navigate to that function or location specific OU and go from there. Keep it
simple, seriously! If you're dumping everything into one OU then I can see
how it'd be a problem. 

 

On 1/31/08, Michael Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

I choose a 2 letter prefix for the location such as CH for Chicago, then a
meaningful name after that like Exchange for the type of server, then a
number for the amount of servers you will have
CHExchange1 CHFile1, etc.
makes so much more sense to me. i know where it is, and what it is.

-Original Message-
From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 10:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server naming

At my last job, we used golf related terms.  Eagle, Putter, Driver, Wedge,
Bunker, etc... at the job before that, we used superheroes.
Superman, Spiderman, etc.

Currently, we're using role based names, which I actually don't like, as it
makes it that much easier for a hacker to know where to go for the info he's
looking for...

Joe Heaton

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 8:21 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Server naming

On Jan 31, 2008 10:22 AM, David Lum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Attacking server naming conventions again, how do you guys name your
> servers?

Depends on the nature of the organization.  For larger organizations, or
if you have lots of servers, a name based on the site, function and a number
tend to be the only way to go, especially with the flat naming system
Windows still uses internally.

For smaller shops with the right attitude (like my current employer), I
tend to go with more interesting names, with a theme.
Small shops almost always have all their servers being multi-purpose.
Naming everything "SRV1", "SRV2", and so on tends to be confusing.
For example, at my current main gig, we've got TIGER, PUMA, LION, COUGAR,
and NTSERVER.  (Can you guess which one has the legacy app that just don't
die? ;-) )  At my last main gig, we used Simpsons characters.  This doesn't
scale up to large orgs, though, and if the place has a stuffy attitude it's
not appropriate, either.  For the latter, I usually just use "ORGSVR1" or
whatever.

RFC-1178 has some advice on this, although it's oriented more towards DNS,
where the tree structure makes naming conflicts less of an issue.

> Currently we use location and function in the name, but what

RE: Server naming

[Tom Strader]

I am by far no AD expert, and have limited multi-site experience, but
I've been taught that OU's should be aligned to allow easy
administration of each site.
 
I could be wrong?
 
The OU hierarchy does not need to reflect the departmental hierarchy of
the organization or group. OUs are created for a specific purpose, such
as the delegation of administration, the application of Group Policy, or
to limit the visibility of objects.
 
Credits (watch wrappage)
http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserver/en/library/7c66e932-5c5b-4f0
e-8e4a-c705ff7d95c11033.mspx?mfr=true
 
Mr Butler, please note: I gave credit where credit was due this time.
;-P



From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 1:35 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server naming




Folks, 

 

OU's are organizational units, why in the world, wouldn't you align them
with the logical orientation of your network ( Whether it be buildings,
divisions, organizations etc etc). Yes Group policy is one benefit of
having OU's but Constrained/ delegated administration is another, and
there probably are about 5-10 more good reasons to have OU's. 

 

I don't know whom your instructor was and why he would say such things,
but OU's as you said should be flexible, and be used for what makes
sense to your network. 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

Netwok Engineer

Lifespan Organization

MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA

Phone: 401-639-3505

-Original Message-
From: Les B. Minaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 1:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server naming

 

 

I too, would like to know why.

 

I remember taking an MS AD course in which the instructor said that OU's
should not mirror the organizational structure of a company.

He was, however, unable to give me a "good enough" reason for that to be
100% true all the time. I believe that OU's should be organized

in a manner that provided sufficient flexibility with GPO's et cetera.
Nothing more, nothing less. What defines that flexibility is variable by
organization.

 

Les. 

 



From: Tim Vander Kooi
Sent: Mon 2/4/2008 5:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server naming

 

And there is nothing wrong with your way of doing it. I have my OUs set
by area so that I can use GPOs to install software from different
servers based on where they are located (not server based administration
as Ken mentions). It has worked fine for me for years. I was curious if
Ken had a reason for his blanket statement regarding how it shouldn't be
done. If a reason exists I would be interested to know what it is.

Tim

 

 

From: Webb, Brian (Corp) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 3:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server naming

 

 

I think what Tim is saying is the reason for creating new OUs is for
administration purposes.  The primary reason to create a new OU is to
facilitate delegating administration or assigning Group Policy.  We have
hundreds of servers, but fewer than 10 OUs for them.

 

-Brian

 

 



From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 2:53 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server naming

 

I'm curious why you say that Ken.

 

 

From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 4:07 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server naming

 

 

Unless you have server administration by region, you shouldn't be
organising your servers into regional specific OUs.

 

Cheers

Ken

 

From: MarvinC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, 1 February 2008 4:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Server naming

 

 

Makes a whole lot of sense for me too. Once you create your OU's and
place everything where they need to go then it gets even easier, for me
anyways. So if I need to see all systems in a particular region or
location I navigate to that function or location specific OU and go from
there. Keep it simple, seriously! If you're dumping everything into one
OU then I can see how it'd be a problem. 

 

On 1/31/08, Michael Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

I choose a 2 letter prefix for the location such as CH for Chicago, then
a
meaningful name after that like Exchange for the type of server, then a
number for the amount of servers you will have
CHExchange1 CHFile1, etc.
makes so much more sense to me. i know where it is, and what it is.

-Original Message-
From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 10:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server naming

At my last job, we used golf related terms.  Eagle, Putter, Driver,
Wedge,
Bunker, etc... at the job before that, we used superheroes.
Superman, Spiderman, etc.

Currently, we're using role based names, which I actually don't like, as
it
makes it that much easier for a hacker to know where t

lsass.exe question

[Andy Shook]

Above mentioned process ran away and buried my Exchange server a few
minutes ago.  Still reviewing event logs but I'm wondering if someone
install google desktop search and it started to index his mail file
would that cause the lsass.exe spike?  Server is 2003 std. with Exchange
2003 std SP2 + all patches and is a DC\GC DNS and a few shares  

 

Andy Shook, IT Manager

Decision Support LLC

624 Matthews-Mint Hill Road

Matthews, NC 28105

p-704.844.1828

f-704.847.4875

e- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  

 


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RE: Server naming

[Ziots, Edward]

Folks, 

 

OU's are organizational units, why in the world, wouldn't you align them
with the logical orientation of your network ( Whether it be buildings,
divisions, organizations etc etc). Yes Group policy is one benefit of
having OU's but Constrained/ delegated administration is another, and
there probably are about 5-10 more good reasons to have OU's. 

 

I don't know whom your instructor was and why he would say such things,
but OU's as you said should be flexible, and be used for what makes
sense to your network. 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

Netwok Engineer

Lifespan Organization

MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA

Phone: 401-639-3505

-Original Message-
From: Les B. Minaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 1:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server naming

 

 

I too, would like to know why.

 

I remember taking an MS AD course in which the instructor said that OU's
should not mirror the organizational structure of a company.

He was, however, unable to give me a "good enough" reason for that to be
100% true all the time. I believe that OU's should be organized

in a manner that provided sufficient flexibility with GPO's et cetera.
Nothing more, nothing less. What defines that flexibility is variable by
organization.

 

Les. 

 



From: Tim Vander Kooi
Sent: Mon 2/4/2008 5:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server naming

 

And there is nothing wrong with your way of doing it. I have my OUs set
by area so that I can use GPOs to install software from different
servers based on where they are located (not server based administration
as Ken mentions). It has worked fine for me for years. I was curious if
Ken had a reason for his blanket statement regarding how it shouldn't be
done. If a reason exists I would be interested to know what it is.

Tim

 

 

From: Webb, Brian (Corp) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 3:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server naming

 

 

I think what Tim is saying is the reason for creating new OUs is for
administration purposes.  The primary reason to create a new OU is to
facilitate delegating administration or assigning Group Policy.  We have
hundreds of servers, but fewer than 10 OUs for them.

 

-Brian

 

 



From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 2:53 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server naming

 

I'm curious why you say that Ken.

 

 

From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 4:07 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server naming

 

 

Unless you have server administration by region, you shouldn't be
organising your servers into regional specific OUs.

 

Cheers

Ken

 

From: MarvinC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, 1 February 2008 4:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Server naming

 

 

Makes a whole lot of sense for me too. Once you create your OU's and
place everything where they need to go then it gets even easier, for me
anyways. So if I need to see all systems in a particular region or
location I navigate to that function or location specific OU and go from
there. Keep it simple, seriously! If you're dumping everything into one
OU then I can see how it'd be a problem. 

 

On 1/31/08, Michael Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

I choose a 2 letter prefix for the location such as CH for Chicago, then
a
meaningful name after that like Exchange for the type of server, then a
number for the amount of servers you will have
CHExchange1 CHFile1, etc.
makes so much more sense to me. i know where it is, and what it is.

-Original Message-
From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 10:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server naming

At my last job, we used golf related terms.  Eagle, Putter, Driver,
Wedge,
Bunker, etc... at the job before that, we used superheroes.
Superman, Spiderman, etc.

Currently, we're using role based names, which I actually don't like, as
it
makes it that much easier for a hacker to know where to go for the info
he's
looking for...

Joe Heaton

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 8:21 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Server naming

On Jan 31, 2008 10:22 AM, David Lum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Attacking server naming conventions again, how do you guys name your
> servers?

Depends on the nature of the organization.  For larger organizations, or
if you have lots of servers, a name based on the site, function and a
number
tend to be the only way to go, especially with the flat naming system
Windows still uses internally.

For smaller shops with the right attitude (like my current employer), I
tend to go with more interesting names, with a theme.
Small shops almost always have all their servers being multi-purpose.
Naming everything 

RE: Server naming

[Les B. Minaker]

I too, would like to know why.

I remember taking an MS AD course in which the instructor said that OU's should 
not mirror the organizational structure of a company.
He was, however, unable to give me a "good enough" reason for that to be 100% 
true all the time. I believe that OU's should be organized
in a manner that provided sufficient flexibility with GPO's et cetera. Nothing 
more, nothing less. What defines that flexibility is variable by organization.

Les. 



From: Tim Vander Kooi
Sent: Mon 2/4/2008 5:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server naming




And there is nothing wrong with your way of doing it. I have my OUs set by area 
so that I can use GPOs to install software from different servers based on 
where they are located (not server based administration as Ken mentions). It 
has worked fine for me for years. I was curious if Ken had a reason for his 
blanket statement regarding how it shouldn't be done. If a reason exists I 
would be interested to know what it is.
Tim
 
 
From: Webb, Brian (Corp) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 3:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server naming
 
 
I think what Tim is saying is the reason for creating new OUs is for 
administration purposes.  The primary reason to create a new OU is to 
facilitate delegating administration or assigning Group Policy.  We have 
hundreds of servers, but fewer than 10 OUs for them.
 
-Brian
 
 



From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 2:53 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server naming
 
I'm curious why you say that Ken.
 
 
From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 4:07 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server naming
 
 
Unless you have server administration by region, you shouldn't be organising 
your servers into regional specific OUs.
 
Cheers
Ken
 
From: MarvinC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, 1 February 2008 4:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Server naming
 
 
Makes a whole lot of sense for me too. Once you create your OU's and place 
everything where they need to go then it gets even easier, for me anyways. So 
if I need to see all systems in a particular region or location I navigate to 
that function or location specific OU and go from there. Keep it simple, 
seriously! If you're dumping everything into one OU then I can see how it'd be 
a problem. 

 
On 1/31/08, Michael Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
I choose a 2 letter prefix for the location such as CH for Chicago, then a
meaningful name after that like Exchange for the type of server, then a
number for the amount of servers you will have
CHExchange1 CHFile1, etc.
makes so much more sense to me. i know where it is, and what it is.

-Original Message-
From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 10:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server naming

At my last job, we used golf related terms.  Eagle, Putter, Driver, Wedge,
Bunker, etc... at the job before that, we used superheroes.
Superman, Spiderman, etc.

Currently, we're using role based names, which I actually don't like, as it
makes it that much easier for a hacker to know where to go for the info he's
looking for...

Joe Heaton

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 8:21 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Server naming

On Jan 31, 2008 10:22 AM, David Lum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Attacking server naming conventions again, how do you guys name your
> servers?

Depends on the nature of the organization.  For larger organizations, or
if you have lots of servers, a name based on the site, function and a number
tend to be the only way to go, especially with the flat naming system
Windows still uses internally.

For smaller shops with the right attitude (like my current employer), I
tend to go with more interesting names, with a theme.
Small shops almost always have all their servers being multi-purpose.
Naming everything "SRV1", "SRV2", and so on tends to be confusing.
For example, at my current main gig, we've got TIGER, PUMA, LION, COUGAR,
and NTSERVER.  (Can you guess which one has the legacy app that just don't
die? ;-) )  At my last main gig, we used Simpsons characters.  This doesn't
scale up to large orgs, though, and if the place has a stuffy attitude it's
not appropriate, either.  For the latter, I usually just use "ORGSVR1" or
whatever.

RFC-1178 has some advice on this, although it's oriented more towards DNS,
where the tree structure makes naming conflicts less of an issue.

> Currently we use location and function in the name, but what about a
> server that does more than one thing?

Use a more generic name, like "SRV" or "UTIL" or whatever.  Indeed, if
it's at all likely a server will be tasked with multiple things, I always
try to go with the more generic name.  A server named one thing that's
really doing 

RE: Gigabit on the cheap

[Carl Houseman]

FWIW, with PCI gigabit NICs, you're only going to get 200-300 Mbps max.
Maybe a little better if everything is using jumbo frames, but the
bottleneck becomes the PCI bus.  Copying machine to machine, I can see a
jump in the throughput once the last of the file is read into memory and
there's no longer bus contention with the PCI RAID controller.
 
So get PCI-E NICs if the desktops can use them and you want any chance at
gigabit throughput.
 
I wouldn't worry too much about the switch itself unless you've got
management features in mind - a SOHO gig switch from any of the "big 4"
should do the job.  The first batch of cheap SOHO gig switches didn't
support jumbo frames very well if at all (got one for sale if anyone wants
it - D-Link DGS-1005D), but most everything does nowadays.
 
Carl

  _  

From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 10:49 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Gigabit on the cheap




Slightly OT, but only a little. At home I have a network where my two 2K3
servers are on desktop hardware. I am using the integrated 10/100 NIC's and
a cheap 10/100 switch.

 

I'm going to move to gigabit and all I need is 5-8port gigabit switch. Going
to my favorite place to shop for such stuff (pricewatch.com) I can find all
manners of inexpensive gigabit switches. Are any of those cheap (<$75)
switches any better than the other? I see some brands I don't recognize and
I also see the usual Linksys, Netgear, SMC and 3Com stuff. For under $100 I
even see some refurbished heavier duty stuff

 

Comments?

 

Dave Lum  - Systems Engineer 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025
"When you step on the brakes your life is in your foot's hands" 

 

 

















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DL145 G2 LO100 Issue

[Joseph L. Casale]

Arrghh,
The HP tech asked what is "telnet" application I am using? So I guess my 
question about console bios redir with Telnet isn't going to get answered ehh :)

Anyone done this? The LO100 manual is pretty easy to follow, but I can't get it 
to work? Possibly the key strokes or something I am doing wrong in the telent 
session?

Any help would be great!
jlc

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RE: Gigabit on the cheap

[David Lum]

Sound level is certainly an issue as my network currently sits at one
end of an open kitchen/dining room/open area. When I upgraded to a 512MB
PCIe video card I made sure to spec a silent one (no fan) and my CPU
cooling fans are all "pricier" (yeah, $25 instead of $3, not exactly
bank-breakers!) very quiet ones. No, I'm not going liquid cooled...

 

Dave

 

From: Klint Price - ArizonaITPro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 8:45 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Gigabit on the cheap

 


David,

Going under the old adage, you get what you pay for, I would probably
look to the gray market for some higher end gear.  I have used Network
Hardware Resale in the past with great success.  The drawback with this
route is that these switches tend to be noisier due to fans.

Klint



David Lum wrote: 

 

Slightly OT, but only a little. At home I have a network where my two
2K3 servers are on desktop hardware. I am using the integrated 10/100
NIC's and a cheap 10/100 switch.

 

I'm going to move to gigabit and all I need is 5-8port gigabit switch.
Going to my favorite place to shop for such stuff (pricewatch.com) I can
find all manners of inexpensive gigabit switches. Are any of those cheap
(<$75) switches any better than the other? I see some brands I don't
recognize and I also see the usual Linksys, Netgear, SMC and 3Com stuff.
For under $100 I even see some refurbished heavier duty stuff

 

Comments?

 

Dave Lum  - Systems Engineer 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025
"When you step on the brakes your life is in your foot's hands" 

 

 

 

 
 
 

  

 

 





 


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RE: Gigabit on the cheap

[David Lum]

I am having a hell of a time communicating today, yeah I know I need to
upgrade NIC's too, I have no idea how the word "all" got in the "I need
a gigabit switch" sentence! DOH!

 

Dave

 

From: Mike Gill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 8:42 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Gigabit on the cheap

 

 

If all you need is a Gb switch, and you're using the 10/100 NIC's,
you're not going to get any benefit for upgrading the switch. You would
need new NIC's as well. That being said, any Linksys or Netgear unit
should do. I prefer to buy the stackable Linksys models.

 

-- 
Mike Gill

 

From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 7:49 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Gigabit on the cheap

 

 

Slightly OT, but only a little. At home I have a network where my two
2K3 servers are on desktop hardware. I am using the integrated 10/100
NIC's and a cheap 10/100 switch.

 

I'm going to move to gigabit and all I need is 5-8port gigabit switch.
Going to my favorite place to shop for such stuff (pricewatch.com) I can
find all manners of inexpensive gigabit switches. Are any of those cheap
(<$75) switches any better than the other? I see some brands I don't
recognize and I also see the usual Linksys, Netgear, SMC and 3Com stuff.
For under $100 I even see some refurbished heavier duty stuff

 

Comments?

 

Dave Lum  - Systems Engineer 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025
"When you step on the brakes your life is in your foot's hands"

 

 





 


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Re: Gigabit on the cheap

[Klint Price - ArizonaITPro]

David,

Going under the old adage, you get what you pay for, I would probably 
look to the gray market for some higher end gear.  I have used Network 
Hardware Resale in the past with great success.  The drawback with this 
route is that these switches tend to be noisier due to fans.

Klint



David Lum wrote:
>
> Slightly OT, but only a little. At home I have a network where my two 
> 2K3 servers are on desktop hardware. I am using the integrated 10/100 
> NIC's and a cheap 10/100 switch.
>
>  
>
> I'm going to move to gigabit and all I need is 5-8port gigabit switch. 
> Going to my favorite place to shop for such stuff (pricewatch.com) I 
> can find all manners of inexpensive gigabit switches. Are any of those 
> cheap (<$75) switches any better than the other? I see some brands I 
> don't recognize and I also see the usual Linksys, Netgear, SMC and 
> 3Com stuff. For under $100 I even see some refurbished heavier duty stuff
>
>  
>
> Comments?
>
>  
>
> */Dave Lum/*  - Systems Engineer
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025
> /"//When you step on the brakes your life is in your foot's hands//"// ///
>
>  
>
>  
>
>
>
>
> 
>   


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RE: Gigabit on the cheap

[Tom Strader]

For home use, I second the below comment...



From: Mike Gill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 11:42 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Gigabit on the cheap




If all you need is a Gb switch, and you're using the 10/100 NIC's,
you're not going to get any benefit for upgrading the switch. You would
need new NIC's as well. That being said, any Linksys or Netgear unit
should do. I prefer to buy the stackable Linksys models.

 

-- 
Mike Gill

 

From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 7:49 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Gigabit on the cheap

 

 

Slightly OT, but only a little. At home I have a network where my two
2K3 servers are on desktop hardware. I am using the integrated 10/100
NIC's and a cheap 10/100 switch.

 

I'm going to move to gigabit and all I need is 5-8port gigabit switch.
Going to my favorite place to shop for such stuff (pricewatch.com) I can
find all manners of inexpensive gigabit switches. Are any of those cheap
(<$75) switches any better than the other? I see some brands I don't
recognize and I also see the usual Linksys, Netgear, SMC and 3Com stuff.
For under $100 I even see some refurbished heavier duty stuff

 

Comments?

 

Dave Lum  - Systems Engineer 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025
"When you step on the brakes your life is in your foot's hands"










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RE: Gigabit on the cheap

[Mike Gill]

If all you need is a Gb switch, and you're using the 10/100 NIC's, you're
not going to get any benefit for upgrading the switch. You would need new
NIC's as well. That being said, any Linksys or Netgear unit should do. I
prefer to buy the stackable Linksys models.

 

-- 
Mike Gill

 

From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 7:49 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Gigabit on the cheap

 

 

Slightly OT, but only a little. At home I have a network where my two 2K3
servers are on desktop hardware. I am using the integrated 10/100 NIC's and
a cheap 10/100 switch.

 

I'm going to move to gigabit and all I need is 5-8port gigabit switch. Going
to my favorite place to shop for such stuff (pricewatch.com) I can find all
manners of inexpensive gigabit switches. Are any of those cheap (<$75)
switches any better than the other? I see some brands I don't recognize and
I also see the usual Linksys, Netgear, SMC and 3Com stuff. For under $100 I
even see some refurbished heavier duty stuff

 

Comments?

 

Dave Lum  - Systems Engineer 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025
"When you step on the brakes your life is in your foot's hands"


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RE: need to remove "everyone" group from the ACL of a long list of folders

[Ziots, Edward]

LOL, 

Is that what the Pats fans, doing to each other because they choked in
the superbowl? 

Z

Edward E. Ziots
Netwok Engineer
Lifespan Organization
MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA
Phone: 401-639-3505

-Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 11:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: need to remove "everyone" group from the ACL of a long list
of folders

or your boss will put you in shackles with jackles - and you'll be
sleeping with the fishes without boxes of tackles.'


On Feb 5, 2008 11:03 AM, Ziots, Edward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If you using Windows 2000 SP2, use Icacls to backup the ACLS then
cacls,
> if it blows up, just re=apply the ACL with ICACLS.
>
> Z
>
> Edward E. Ziots
> Netwok Engineer
> Lifespan Organization
> MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA
> Phone: 401-639-3505
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Matthew McComas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 10:49 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
>
> Subject: RE: need to remove "everyone" group from the ACL of a long
list
> of folders
>
> Just a thought, but does it make a difference if the "Everyone" group
> permission setting is inherited from the parent folder or does cacls
or
> xcacls know automatically to no longer inherit this setting, removing
it
> from the firstname.lastname folder even though it is inherited from
> above?  Would I simply need to change my command to:
>
> cacls d:\home /t /e /c /r "Everyone"
>
> which according to the switch "/t" should traverse all sub-directories
> and make the same change.
>
> Seems a little risky though...if you mess up, it impacts 1100
> sub-directories.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 9:43 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: need to remove "everyone" group from the ACL of a long
list
> of folders
>
> My working directory was wrong, so it no longer loops.  Now I have a
new
> problem...when I run this command:
>
> cacls d:\home\firstname.lastname$ /t /e /c /r "Everyone"
>
> which is intended to revoke access by the Everyone group (or remove it
> entirely from the ACL) to this folder I get "access is denied".
>
> I'm logged on with my domain admin account, which is a member of the
> local administrator's account.  The local Administrator's group has
full
> controll access to the volume and all sub-folders.  I'm a bit
> mystified...any ideas?
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Re: GMail goofiness

[Lenny Bensman]

I don't think it is the case either.

If you look at the screenshot I sent earlier, you'll see that the same
person's name is bolded in one message, but not in the next message.

Since "frequency" would be largely constant between the two messages, it
doesn't appear to be based on frequency of contact.


On 2/5/08, Sean Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Could be highlighting addresses that you frequently communicate with?
> GMail automatically stores a contact for every address, maybe it keeps track
> of much you e-mail those addresses?
>
> - Sean
>
>  On 2/5/08, Lenny Bensman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Well, it just bold "me," but other people as well.  And I have instances
> > of conversation with lots of recepients bolded that have not contributed to
> > the conversation.
> >
> > Personal indeed, but mysterious is a more relevant descriptor here :)
> >
> >
> > On 2/5/08, James Rankin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Doesn't it just bold the "me" in conversations you have contributed
> > > to? That's how it seems to work for me
> > >
> > > It appears that Gmail is a very personal experience  :->
> > >
> > > On 05/02/2008, Lenny Bensman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Nope, I just found another thread in my inbox where one message is
> > > > "Gene to me, Albert"  (i.e. only "me" is bolded) and in the
> > > > same thread, another message "Lenny Bensman to Luba, Albert"  (
> > > > i.e. FROM me to two recipients, one of which is bolded).
> > > >
> > > >  And this also shows the case that I mentioned in the previous
> > > > message where only some recipients are bolded, not all or none.
> > > >
> > > > It's very mysterious feature...
> > > >
> > > > Lenny
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >   On 2/5/08, Micheal Espinola Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >  Ah OK.  Do you only see this is message that are FROM you?
> > > > >
> > > > > On Feb 4, 2008 9:53 PM, Lenny Bensman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Screenshot at http://download.yousendit.com/47C586B26F8234B0(lyris
> > > > > > rejects attachments, and I'm using GMail, so I can't embed the
> > > > > image :( ).
> > > > > > This shows 3 messages in the thread.  The first one is collapsed
> > > > > b/c it is
> > > > > > too big to fit in a screenshot, but the name is not bolded just
> > > > > like in the
> > > > > > third message.  In the 2nd message, the names are bolded.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I couldn't find a better example, but I'm dead sure that I've
> > > > > seen message
> > > > > > with multiple recepients, and only some recepients are bolded
> > > > > while others
> > > > > > are not (in the same message).  Unfortunately can't find example
> > > > > in my
> > > > > > mailbox right now.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Also pretty sure i've seen the very first message in the
> > > > > thread to have
> > > > > > bolded names, but i've been looking through my messages now
> > > > > (while looking
> > > > > > for a good example), and haven't seen the first message in the
> > > > > thread to
> > > > > > have bold names.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So far I figured out that bolding does not mean:
> > > > > > > * another user who uses gmail - it highlights gmail users,
> > > > > yahoo, and
> > > > > > others...
> > > > > > > * It doesn't imply that there is unread message from that user
> > > > > somewhere
> > > > > > else:  see attached screenshot, name Gregory.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 2/4/08, Micheal Espinola Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > In the 'hidden details' vew, names always appear bolded to
> > > > > me.  Only
> > > > > > > > if I expand the view to 'show details' do I see names not in
> > > > > bold.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Can you provide a screenshot?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Feb 4, 2008 4:38 PM, Lenny Bensman <
> > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Sorry, I was vague.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I meant the actual names of the recepients in the top of
> > > > > the message
> > > > > > (I.e.
> > > > > > > > > when you have a single thread open, or a single message if
> > > > > there is
> > > > > > only one
> > > > > > > > > in the thread).  I sometimes see bolded recepients
> > > > > regardless if this
> > > > > > is the
> > > > > > > > > first time, or n-th time that I open the message / thread.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The help center reference below is about multiple threads
> > > > > being listed
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > inbox (or some label) where a thread contains an unread
> > > > > message.  Then
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > name of the sender, as oppose to that of recepient, is
> > > > > bolded to
> > > > > > indicate
> > > > > > > > > the unread message - th

intermittent web site connectivity

[Matthew McComas]

We have a sharepoint site that one of our remote sites seems to have
problems connecting to intermittently over the vpn connected slow WAN
link.  The network is good, b/c they can navigate to other resources and
intraweb sites.  Is there a sharepoint or IIS tweak we might try to
permit access to these sites more consistently?  Perhaps maybe an IIS
timeout setting we need to adjust?  Sharepoint version is Portal server
2003 btw.

 

Thanks,

MM


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Re: need to remove "everyone" group from the ACL of a long list of folders

[Micheal Espinola Jr]

or your boss will put you in shackles with jackles - and you'll be
sleeping with the fishes without boxes of tackles.'


On Feb 5, 2008 11:03 AM, Ziots, Edward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If you using Windows 2000 SP2, use Icacls to backup the ACLS then cacls,
> if it blows up, just re=apply the ACL with ICACLS.
>
> Z
>
> Edward E. Ziots
> Netwok Engineer
> Lifespan Organization
> MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA
> Phone: 401-639-3505
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Matthew McComas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 10:49 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
>
> Subject: RE: need to remove "everyone" group from the ACL of a long list
> of folders
>
> Just a thought, but does it make a difference if the "Everyone" group
> permission setting is inherited from the parent folder or does cacls or
> xcacls know automatically to no longer inherit this setting, removing it
> from the firstname.lastname folder even though it is inherited from
> above?  Would I simply need to change my command to:
>
> cacls d:\home /t /e /c /r "Everyone"
>
> which according to the switch "/t" should traverse all sub-directories
> and make the same change.
>
> Seems a little risky though...if you mess up, it impacts 1100
> sub-directories.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 9:43 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: need to remove "everyone" group from the ACL of a long list
> of folders
>
> My working directory was wrong, so it no longer loops.  Now I have a new
> problem...when I run this command:
>
> cacls d:\home\firstname.lastname$ /t /e /c /r "Everyone"
>
> which is intended to revoke access by the Everyone group (or remove it
> entirely from the ACL) to this folder I get "access is denied".
>
> I'm logged on with my domain admin account, which is a member of the
> local administrator's account.  The local Administrator's group has full
> controll access to the volume and all sub-folders.  I'm a bit
> mystified...any ideas?
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Re: GMail goofiness

[Micheal Espinola Jr]

I thought that too, but I havent been able to cause a similar
situation to what he is seeing - whether emailing multilpe contacts
directly or with CC's.

I havent tried BCC's yet though.


On Feb 5, 2008 11:11 AM, Sean Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Could be highlighting addresses that you frequently communicate with? GMail
> automatically stores a contact for every address, maybe it keeps track of
> much you e-mail those addresses?
>
> - Sean
>
>
> On 2/5/08, Lenny Bensman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Well, it just bold "me," but other people as well.  And I have instances
> of conversation with lots of recepients bolded that have not contributed to
> the conversation.
> >
> > Personal indeed, but mysterious is a more relevant descriptor here :)
> >
> >
> > On 2/5/08, James Rankin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Doesn't it just bold the "me" in conversations you have contributed to?
> That's how it seems to work for me
> > >
> > > It appears that Gmail is a very personal experience  :->
> > >
> > >
> > > On 05/02/2008, Lenny Bensman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Nope, I just found another thread in my inbox where one message is
> "Gene to me, Albert"  (i.e. only "me" is bolded) and in the same
> thread, another message "Lenny Bensman to Luba, Albert"  (i.e. FROM
> me to two recipients, one of which is bolded).
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > And this also shows the case that I mentioned in the previous message
> where only some recipients are bolded, not all or none.
> > > >
> > > > It's very mysterious feature...
> > > >
> > > > Lenny
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 2/5/08, Micheal Espinola Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Ah OK.  Do you only see this is message that are FROM you?
> > > > >
> > > > > On Feb 4, 2008 9:53 PM, Lenny Bensman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Screenshot at http://download.yousendit.com/47C586B26F8234B0
> (lyris
> > > > > > rejects attachments, and I'm using GMail, so I can't embed the
> image :( ).
> > > > > > This shows 3 messages in the thread.  The first one is collapsed
> b/c it is
> > > > > > too big to fit in a screenshot, but the name is not bolded just
> like in the
> > > > > > third message.  In the 2nd message, the names are bolded.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I couldn't find a better example, but I'm dead sure that I've
> seen message
> > > > > > with multiple recepients, and only some recepients are bolded
> while others
> > > > > > are not (in the same message).  Unfortunately can't find example
> in my
> > > > > > mailbox right now.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Also pretty sure i've seen the very first message in the thread
> to have
> > > > > > bolded names, but i've been looking through my messages now (while
> looking
> > > > > > for a good example), and haven't seen the first message in the
> thread to
> > > > > > have bold names.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So far I figured out that bolding does not mean:
> > > > > > > * another user who uses gmail - it highlights gmail users,
> yahoo, and
> > > > > > others...
> > > > > > > * It doesn't imply that there is unread message from that user
> somewhere
> > > > > > else:  see attached screenshot, name Gregory.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 2/4/08, Micheal Espinola Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > In the 'hidden details' vew, names always appear bolded to me.
> Only
> > > > > > > > if I expand the view to 'show details' do I see names not in
> bold.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Can you provide a screenshot?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Feb 4, 2008 4:38 PM, Lenny Bensman
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Sorry, I was vague.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I meant the actual names of the recepients in the top of the
> message
> > > > > > (I.e.
> > > > > > > > > when you have a single thread open, or a single message if
> there is
> > > > > > only one
> > > > > > > > > in the thread).  I sometimes see bolded recepients
> regardless if this
> > > > > > is the
> > > > > > > > > first time, or n-th time that I open the message / thread.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The help center reference below is about multiple threads
> being listed
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > inbox (or some label) where a thread contains an unread
> message.  Then
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > name of the sender, as oppose to that of recepient, is
> bolded to
> > > > > > indicate
> > > > > > > > > the unread message - that I know, and that is not what I was
> trying to
> > > > > > ask.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On 2/4/08, Christopher Boggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >

Re: GMail goofiness

[Sean Martin]

Could be highlighting addresses that you frequently communicate with? GMail
automatically stores a contact for every address, maybe it keeps track of
much you e-mail those addresses?

- Sean

On 2/5/08, Lenny Bensman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Well, it just bold "me," but other people as well.  And I have instances
> of conversation with lots of recepients bolded that have not contributed to
> the conversation.
>
> Personal indeed, but mysterious is a more relevant descriptor here :)
>
>
> On 2/5/08, James Rankin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Doesn't it just bold the "me" in conversations you have contributed to?
> > That's how it seems to work for me
> >
> > It appears that Gmail is a very personal experience  :->
> >
> > On 05/02/2008, Lenny Bensman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Nope, I just found another thread in my inbox where one message is
> > > "Gene to me, Albert"  (i.e. only "me" is bolded) and in the
> > > same thread, another message "Lenny Bensman to Luba, Albert"  (
> > > i.e. FROM me to two recipients, one of which is bolded).
> > >
> > >  And this also shows the case that I mentioned in the previous message
> > > where only some recipients are bolded, not all or none.
> > >
> > > It's very mysterious feature...
> > >
> > > Lenny
> > >
> > >
> > >   On 2/5/08, Micheal Espinola Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > >  Ah OK.  Do you only see this is message that are FROM you?
> > > >
> > > > On Feb 4, 2008 9:53 PM, Lenny Bensman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Screenshot at http://download.yousendit.com/47C586B26F8234B0(lyris
> > > > > rejects attachments, and I'm using GMail, so I can't embed the
> > > > image :( ).
> > > > > This shows 3 messages in the thread.  The first one is collapsed
> > > > b/c it is
> > > > > too big to fit in a screenshot, but the name is not bolded just
> > > > like in the
> > > > > third message.  In the 2nd message, the names are bolded.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I couldn't find a better example, but I'm dead sure that I've
> > > > seen message
> > > > > with multiple recepients, and only some recepients are bolded
> > > > while others
> > > > > are not (in the same message).  Unfortunately can't find example
> > > > in my
> > > > > mailbox right now.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Also pretty sure i've seen the very first message in the thread
> > > > to have
> > > > > bolded names, but i've been looking through my messages now (while
> > > > looking
> > > > > for a good example), and haven't seen the first message in the
> > > > thread to
> > > > > have bold names.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So far I figured out that bolding does not mean:
> > > > > > * another user who uses gmail - it highlights gmail users,
> > > > yahoo, and
> > > > > others...
> > > > > > * It doesn't imply that there is unread message from that user
> > > > somewhere
> > > > > else:  see attached screenshot, name Gregory.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 2/4/08, Micheal Espinola Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In the 'hidden details' vew, names always appear bolded to
> > > > me.  Only
> > > > > > > if I expand the view to 'show details' do I see names not in
> > > > bold.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Can you provide a screenshot?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Feb 4, 2008 4:38 PM, Lenny Bensman <
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Sorry, I was vague.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I meant the actual names of the recepients in the top of the
> > > > message
> > > > > (I.e.
> > > > > > > > when you have a single thread open, or a single message if
> > > > there is
> > > > > only one
> > > > > > > > in the thread).  I sometimes see bolded recepients
> > > > regardless if this
> > > > > is the
> > > > > > > > first time, or n-th time that I open the message / thread.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The help center reference below is about multiple threads
> > > > being listed
> > > > > in
> > > > > > > > inbox (or some label) where a thread contains an unread
> > > > message.  Then
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > name of the sender, as oppose to that of recepient, is
> > > > bolded to
> > > > > indicate
> > > > > > > > the unread message - that I know, and that is not what I was
> > > > trying to
> > > > > ask.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 2/4/08, Christopher Boggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > From the Gmail Help Center:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Use the check boxes to select conversations, and then
> > > > perform
> > > > > actions on
> > > > > > > > those selected conversations.
> > > > > > > > > Add stars to important messages or conversations. You can
> > > > view all
> > > > > your
> > > >

RE: PAC Verification failures

[Michael B. Smith]

Generally speaking, starting a new thread is a good idea, instead of
hijacking an older one. That causes those of us using threading to get
confused.

 

A PAC verification failure generally means that either the timestamp on a
client is too far outta whack, or it's machine password has expired. If it
isn't one of those two things, it can be much more complicated.

 

So, start by setting the time and resetting the machine password (if you
don't know how to do that with nltest or netdom, then you can just remove
the machine from the domain and rejoin it).

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

MCSE/Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Rishi Kumar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 10:56 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: PAC Verification failures

 

 

Can someone PLEASE tell me what these errors mean?  

 

I am getting SEVERAL PAC Verification failures on two of our servers which
are located at the same site.  The only thing "special" about these is that
one is the PDC Emulator and the other USED to be, the PDC Emulator, it is
now just a DC that will soon be decommissioned.  

 

Error is stated below:  

 

7,ERROR,Kerberos,Tue Feb 05 09:04:38 2008,No User,The kerberos subsystem
encountered a PAC verification failure.   This indicates that the PAC from
the client CRAY$ in realm NATIONALCORP.COM had a PAC which failed to  verify
or was modified.  Contact your system administrator.  


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RE: PAC Verification failures

[Bob Fronk]

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/883268

 

From: Rishi Kumar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 10:56 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: PAC Verification failures

 

 

Can someone PLEASE tell me what these errors mean?  

 

I am getting SEVERAL PAC Verification failures on two of our servers
which are located at the same site.  The only thing "special" about
these is that one is the PDC Emulator and the other USED to be, the PDC
Emulator, it is now just a DC that will soon be decommissioned.  

 

Error is stated below:  

 

7,ERROR,Kerberos,Tue Feb 05 09:04:38 2008,No User,The kerberos subsystem
encountered a PAC verification failure.   This indicates that the PAC
from the client CRAY$ in realm NATIONALCORP.COM had a PAC which failed
to  verify or was modified.  Contact your system administrator.  

 



From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 10:49 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Gigabit on the cheap

 

 

Slightly OT, but only a little. At home I have a network where my two
2K3 servers are on desktop hardware. I am using the integrated 10/100
NIC's and a cheap 10/100 switch.

 

I'm going to move to gigabit and all I need is 5-8port gigabit switch.
Going to my favorite place to shop for such stuff (pricewatch.com) I can
find all manners of inexpensive gigabit switches. Are any of those cheap
(<$75) switches any better than the other? I see some brands I don't
recognize and I also see the usual Linksys, Netgear, SMC and 3Com stuff.
For under $100 I even see some refurbished heavier duty stuff

 

Comments?

 

Dave Lum  - Systems Engineer 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025
"When you step on the brakes your life is in your foot's hands" 

 

 

 

 










 
 


 

 





 




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RE: PAC Verification failures

[Tom Strader]

I found this Rishi
 
http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=7&eventno=1870&source=Kerbero
s&phase=1
 
 
>From www.Eventid.net
 



From: Rishi Kumar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 10:56 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: PAC Verification failures




Can someone PLEASE tell me what these errors mean?  

 

I am getting SEVERAL PAC Verification failures on two of our servers
which are located at the same site.  The only thing "special" about
these is that one is the PDC Emulator and the other USED to be, the PDC
Emulator, it is now just a DC that will soon be decommissioned.  

 

Error is stated below:  

 

7,ERROR,Kerberos,Tue Feb 05 09:04:38 2008,No User,The kerberos subsystem
encountered a PAC verification failure.   This indicates that the PAC
from the client CRAY$ in realm NATIONALCORP.COM had a PAC which failed
to  verify or was modified.  Contact your system administrator.  

 



From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 10:49 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Gigabit on the cheap

 

 

Slightly OT, but only a little. At home I have a network where my two
2K3 servers are on desktop hardware. I am using the integrated 10/100
NIC's and a cheap 10/100 switch.

 

I'm going to move to gigabit and all I need is 5-8port gigabit switch.
Going to my favorite place to shop for such stuff (pricewatch.com) I can
find all manners of inexpensive gigabit switches. Are any of those cheap
(<$75) switches any better than the other? I see some brands I don't
recognize and I also see the usual Linksys, Netgear, SMC and 3Com stuff.
For under $100 I even see some refurbished heavier duty stuff

 

Comments?

 

Dave Lum  - Systems Engineer 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025
"When you step on the brakes your life is in your foot's hands" 

 

 

 

 





 











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RE: PAC Verification failures

[Joe Heaton]

Well, Googling "PAC verification failure" gives quite a few options.
First is a Citrix thing, and the second was this:
 
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/883268
 
There were others, but I just looked at the first two.
 
HTH,
 
 
Joe Heaton
 



From: Rishi Kumar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 7:56 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: PAC Verification failures




Can someone PLEASE tell me what these errors mean?  

 

I am getting SEVERAL PAC Verification failures on two of our servers
which are located at the same site.  The only thing "special" about
these is that one is the PDC Emulator and the other USED to be, the PDC
Emulator, it is now just a DC that will soon be decommissioned.  

 

Error is stated below:  

 

7,ERROR,Kerberos,Tue Feb 05 09:04:38 2008,No User,The kerberos subsystem
encountered a PAC verification failure.   This indicates that the PAC
from the client CRAY$ in realm NATIONALCORP.COM had a PAC which failed
to  verify or was modified.  Contact your system administrator.  

 



From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 10:49 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Gigabit on the cheap

 

 

Slightly OT, but only a little. At home I have a network where my two
2K3 servers are on desktop hardware. I am using the integrated 10/100
NIC's and a cheap 10/100 switch.

 

I'm going to move to gigabit and all I need is 5-8port gigabit switch.
Going to my favorite place to shop for such stuff (pricewatch.com) I can
find all manners of inexpensive gigabit switches. Are any of those cheap
(<$75) switches any better than the other? I see some brands I don't
recognize and I also see the usual Linksys, Netgear, SMC and 3Com stuff.
For under $100 I even see some refurbished heavier duty stuff

 

Comments?

 

Dave Lum  - Systems Engineer 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025
"When you step on the brakes your life is in your foot's hands" 

 

 

 

 





 











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Re: Server naming

[Micheal Espinola Jr]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_feed_the_troll

On Feb 5, 2008 7:30 AM, Andy Shook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> Knuckle draggin'-biscuit neck.
>
>
>
> J
>
>
>
>
> Shook
> 
>
>
> From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 7:27 AM
>
>
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Server naming
>
>
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Server naming
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Troll.
>
>
>
> J
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> MCSE/Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>
>
>
>
> From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 7:22 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Server naming
>
>
>
>
>
> Its not, just took the opportunity to stimulate discussion…
>
>
>
>
> Andy
> 
>
>
> From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 7:20 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Server naming
>
>
>
>
>
> And how is that any different to what I said?
>
>
>
> OU design should reflect your administrative needs. If you do administration
> by geography, then organise your OUs by geography. But if you do you admin
> by server role type or by business unit (BU) or by outsourcer, or whatever
> then your OUs should be organised that way.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Ken
>
>
>
>
> From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, 5 February 2008 7:58 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Server naming
>
>
>
>
>
> I would also disagree, I have one physical site and I have my AD organized
> by our lines of business.
>
>
>
>
> Shook
>
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshook
> 
>
>
> From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 3:53 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Server naming
>
>
>
>
>
> I'm curious why you say that Ken.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 4:07 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Server naming
>
>
>
>
>
> Unless you have server administration by region, you shouldn't be organising
> your servers into regional specific OUs.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Ken
>
>
>
>
> From: MarvinC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, 1 February 2008 4:28 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Server naming
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Makes a whole lot of sense for me too. Once you create your OU's and place
> everything where they need to go then it gets even easier, for me anyways.
> So if I need to see all systems in a particular region or location I
> navigate to that function or location specific OU and go from there. Keep it
> simple, seriously! If you're dumping everything into one OU then I can see
> how it'd be a problem.
>
>
>
>
> On 1/31/08, Michael Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I choose a 2 letter prefix for the location such as CH for Chicago, then a
> meaningful name after that like Exchange for the type of server, then a
> number for the amount of servers you will have
> CHExchange1 CHFile1, etc.
> makes so much more sense to me. i know where it is, and what it is.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 10:44 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Server naming
>
> At my last job, we used golf related terms.  Eagle, Putter, Driver, Wedge,
> Bunker, etc... at the job before that, we used superheroes.
> Superman, Spiderman, etc.
>
> Currently, we're using role based names, which I actually don't like, as it
> makes it that much easier for a hacker to know where to go for the info he's
> looking for...
>
> Joe Heaton
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 8:21 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Server naming
>
> On Jan 31, 2008 10:22 AM, David Lum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Attacking server naming conventions again, how do you guys name your
> > servers?
>
> Depends on the nature of the organization.  For larger organizations, or
> if you have lots of servers, a name based on the site, function and a number
> tend to be the only way to go, especially with the flat naming system
> Windows still uses internally.
>
> For smaller shops with the right attitude (like my current employer), I
> tend to go with more interesting names, with a theme.
> Small shops almost always have all their servers being multi-purpose.
> Naming everything "SRV1", "SRV2", and so on tends to be confusing.
> For example, at my current main gig, we've got TIGER, PUMA, LION, COUGAR,
> and NTSERVER.  (Can you guess which one has the legacy app that just don't
> die? ;-) )  At my last main gig, we used Simpsons characters.  This doesn't
> scale up to large orgs, though, and if the place has a stuffy attitude it's
> not appropriate, either.  For the latter, I usually just use "ORGSVR1" or
> whatever.
>
> RFC-1178 has some advice on t