Re: Win7 x64, Office 2003 and blu-tooth
+5 *ASB *(Professional Bio http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker/bio) *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... * On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 9:26 PM, Carl Houseman c.house...@gmail.com wrote: I think we need the details of how the minion made this cause-effect association. Did the minion also confirm that a newer version of Office eliminated the problem, when installed on the very same machine that demonstrated problems w/Office 2003? I've certainly had no issue with a BT adapter installed in a W7x64 laptop that uses O2007. I would hesitate to believe this without personal verification. Carl -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 8:44 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Win7 x64, Office 2003 and blu-tooth All, We're pushing out Win7 x64 on new Dell laptops, and we don't yet have word from our corporate overlords regarding our EA, so we can't yet start in on Office 2010, except in limited cases. What we're seeing is that blu-tooth causes major headaches with Office 2003 documents - that is, we have document corruption and especially printing problems. I don't know how my minion found this link, but has anyone else run into this? If so, what are you doing about it? Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Win7 x64, Office 2003 and blu-tooth
Is there an Office Addon installed by the BT software? If so, try disabling it? -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, 19 April 2011 10:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Win7 x64, Office 2003 and blu-tooth Just having BT hardware enabled seems to bring on the problem. Turn it off, and things get better. As far as we can tell, the files are not being transferred via BT. The issue seems mostly to revolve around printing - if you open a document and try to print it, it says you have no printers installed, among other oddities. Kurt On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 18:04, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: Docs xferred via BT? Or just having BT enabled hardware with the OS recognizing causes problems? With Office 2003, or with Office 2K3 _documents_, as you specified? -sc -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 8:44 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Win7 x64, Office 2003 and blu-tooth All, We're pushing out Win7 x64 on new Dell laptops, and we don't yet have word from our corporate overlords regarding our EA, so we can't yet start in on Office 2010, except in limited cases. What we're seeing is that blu-tooth causes major headaches with Office 2003 documents - that is, we have document corruption and especially printing problems. I don't know how my minion found this link, but has anyone else run into this? If so, what are you doing about it? Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Win7 x64, Office 2003 and blu-tooth
Earlier post didn't show up. Is there a possibility that the BT software installed an add-on into Office that causing some instabilities? Cheers Ken From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, 19 April 2011 6:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Win7 x64, Office 2003 and blu-tooth +5 ASB (Professional Biohttp://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker/bio) Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 9:26 PM, Carl Houseman c.house...@gmail.commailto:c.house...@gmail.com wrote: I think we need the details of how the minion made this cause-effect association. Did the minion also confirm that a newer version of Office eliminated the problem, when installed on the very same machine that demonstrated problems w/Office 2003? I've certainly had no issue with a BT adapter installed in a W7x64 laptop that uses O2007. I would hesitate to believe this without personal verification. Carl -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 8:44 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Win7 x64, Office 2003 and blu-tooth All, We're pushing out Win7 x64 on new Dell laptops, and we don't yet have word from our corporate overlords regarding our EA, so we can't yet start in on Office 2010, except in limited cases. What we're seeing is that blu-tooth causes major headaches with Office 2003 documents - that is, we have document corruption and especially printing problems. I don't know how my minion found this link, but has anyone else run into this? If so, what are you doing about it? Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Win7 x64, Office 2003 and blu-tooth
Did for me On 19 April 2011 04:28, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: Is there an Office Addon installed by the BT software? If so, try disabling it? -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, 19 April 2011 10:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Win7 x64, Office 2003 and blu-tooth Just having BT hardware enabled seems to bring on the problem. Turn it off, and things get better. As far as we can tell, the files are not being transferred via BT. The issue seems mostly to revolve around printing - if you open a document and try to print it, it says you have no printers installed, among other oddities. Kurt On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 18:04, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: Docs xferred via BT? Or just having BT enabled hardware with the OS recognizing causes problems? With Office 2003, or with Office 2K3 _documents_, as you specified? -sc -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 8:44 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Win7 x64, Office 2003 and blu-tooth All, We're pushing out Win7 x64 on new Dell laptops, and we don't yet have word from our corporate overlords regarding our EA, so we can't yet start in on Office 2010, except in limited cases. What we're seeing is that blu-tooth causes major headaches with Office 2003 documents - that is, we have document corruption and especially printing problems. I don't know how my minion found this link, but has anyone else run into this? If so, what are you doing about it? Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. *IMPORTANT: This email is intended for the use of the individual addressee(s) named above and may contain information that is confidential, privileged or unsuitable for overly sensitive persons with low self-esteem, no sense of humour or irrational religious beliefs. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email is not authorised (either explicitly or implicitly) and constitutes an irritating social faux pas. Unless the word absquatulation has been used in its correct context somewhere other than in this warning, it does not have any legal or no grammatical use and may be ignored. No animals were harmed in the transmission of this email, although the kelpie next door is living on borrowed time, let me tell you. Those of you with an overwhelming fear of the unknown will be gratified to learn that there is no hidden message revealed by reading this warning backwards, so just ignore that Alert Notice from Microsoft. However, by pouring a complete circle of salt around yourself and your computer you can ensure that no harm befalls you and your pets. If you have received this email in error, please add some nutmeg and egg whites, whisk and place in a warm oven for 40 minutes.* ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Outlook 2007 credentials
I have seen this problem. There are several ways to resolve this, the obvious one is to upgrade to Outlook 2010. Another way is to change the security settings on the account properties to NTLM instead of negotiate. That has resolved the issue for us. Rick Gasper Manager, Network Services King's College 133 N. River St Wilkes-Barre PA 18711 PH: 570-208-5845 Fax: 570-208-6072 Cell: 570-760-0335 rickgas...@kings.edumailto:rickgas...@kings.edu Don't become a phishing victim!! King's College and other reputable organizations will never use email to request that you reply with your password, Social Security number or confidential personal information. From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com] Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 9:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Outlook 2007 credentials When I encountered it, the pop-ups were not on all computers. Mine was in an SBS environment. From: Level 5 Lists [mailto:li...@levelfive.us] Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 9:15 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Outlook 2007 credentials Thanks, I didn't even consider the server since its only happening at 1-2 computers at each location. I was thinking it was a workstation update, we are on whitelisted patches so was guessing some of these people did their own office updates. I will take a look at that. From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com] Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 9:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Outlook 2007 credentials Any recent Exchange updates? I recall a similar situation with SBS2008 after an Exchange roll up. I think the same thing can happen on Exchange 2007 after Roll Up 9. IIRC, the fix is to re-apply the roll up. BF From: Level 5 Lists [mailto:li...@levelfive.us] Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 9:02 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Outlook 2007 credentials Over the past couple of weeks, I have been getting user complaints at a few different sites that Outlook will always ask for credentials. These are internal desktops. The clients are all different and its not system wide its just a workstation here and there. Cant seem to find a fix for it ... nothing really pops up error wise just asks for credentials you put them in and your fine. If you close/open outlook it asks again (like rpc/https). Access to the network seems fine , rebooting, played around with disabling vipre a/v ... don't really see a reason why. Tried setting up an admin account, logged in setup outlook and it does it too so appears machine related not profile... ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: PowerPoint 2007 won't run
There was a recent patch that causes PowerPoint security to block unsecure ppts. For example if you have a ppt that you build yourself you should be fine, but if you insert a ppt into your ppt, then you get an error. The slides imported will not show up correctly (backgrounds and text are missing or distorted.) -Original Message- From: Orland, Kathleen [mailto:korl...@rogers.com] Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 8:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: PowerPoint 2007 won't run I know there was a recent patch that caused Outlook 2007 to suffer printing problems, generating an error telling people to reinstall their printers. -Original Message- From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 5:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: PowerPoint 2007 won't run Possibiity you patched it for the latest Microsoft Patch? Z Edward E. Ziots CISSP, Network +, Security + Network Engineer Lifespan Organization Email:ezi...@lifespan.org Cell:401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 3:51 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: PowerPoint 2007 won't run I tried doing the repair that way as well as through the powerpoint didn't start in safe mode dialogue box. -Original Message- From: Orland, Kathleen [mailto:korl...@rogers.com] Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 3:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: PowerPoint 2007 won't run That is obviously not the case. If you go into the control panel can you change/repair it? -Original Message- From: Orland, Kathleen [mailto:korl...@rogers.com] Sent: 15 April 2011 15:37 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: PowerPoint 2007 won't run Have you checked the task manager to see if multiple instances are running in processes? -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: 15 April 2011 14:19 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: PowerPoint 2007 won't run One of our senior managers (and one of the owners of the company) asked me to look at his laptop (Windows XP) as he couldn't open a PowerPoint presentation (*.pps). I have tried repairing it several times, but it just won't run. It won't even run in safe mode. I never get an error message, but after I repair it and try to launch, it pops up the splash screen then goes away. Nothing in the logs. I try to launch it again, it comes up with a message that Powerpoint failed to start properly, and do I want to start in safe mode, click yes, and nothing happens. The third time it comes up and says it failed to start in safe mode, do I want to try a repair install. Infinite loop. Now, I don't know if Powerpoint *ever* worked on this laptop. The manager got it used after the previous user left the company. I have not wiped and reinstalled as I was not sure where the reinstall media was for that laptop. :-( Any ideas? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1321 / Virus Database: 1500/3579 - Release Date: 04/17/11 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to
RE: PowerPoint 2007 won't run
Ahh... Interesting. Unfortunately, I can't even OPEN PowerPoint to a new project. :-( -Original Message- From: Gasper, Rick [mailto:rickgas...@kings.edu] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 8:22 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: PowerPoint 2007 won't run There was a recent patch that causes PowerPoint security to block unsecure ppts. For example if you have a ppt that you build yourself you should be fine, but if you insert a ppt into your ppt, then you get an error. The slides imported will not show up correctly (backgrounds and text are missing or distorted.) -Original Message- From: Orland, Kathleen [mailto:korl...@rogers.com] Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 8:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: PowerPoint 2007 won't run I know there was a recent patch that caused Outlook 2007 to suffer printing problems, generating an error telling people to reinstall their printers. -Original Message- From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 5:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: PowerPoint 2007 won't run Possibiity you patched it for the latest Microsoft Patch? Z Edward E. Ziots CISSP, Network +, Security + Network Engineer Lifespan Organization Email:ezi...@lifespan.org Cell:401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 3:51 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: PowerPoint 2007 won't run I tried doing the repair that way as well as through the powerpoint didn't start in safe mode dialogue box. -Original Message- From: Orland, Kathleen [mailto:korl...@rogers.com] Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 3:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: PowerPoint 2007 won't run That is obviously not the case. If you go into the control panel can you change/repair it? -Original Message- From: Orland, Kathleen [mailto:korl...@rogers.com] Sent: 15 April 2011 15:37 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: PowerPoint 2007 won't run Have you checked the task manager to see if multiple instances are running in processes? -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: 15 April 2011 14:19 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: PowerPoint 2007 won't run One of our senior managers (and one of the owners of the company) asked me to look at his laptop (Windows XP) as he couldn't open a PowerPoint presentation (*.pps). I have tried repairing it several times, but it just won't run. It won't even run in safe mode. I never get an error message, but after I repair it and try to launch, it pops up the splash screen then goes away. Nothing in the logs. I try to launch it again, it comes up with a message that Powerpoint failed to start properly, and do I want to start in safe mode, click yes, and nothing happens. The third time it comes up and says it failed to start in safe mode, do I want to try a repair install. Infinite loop. Now, I don't know if Powerpoint *ever* worked on this laptop. The manager got it used after the previous user left the company. I have not wiped and reinstalled as I was not sure where the reinstall media was for that laptop. :-( Any ideas? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1321 / Virus Database: 1500/3579 - Release Date: 04/17/11 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint
RE: Win7 x64, Office 2003 and blu-tooth
We experienced the exact same issue and only with Office 2010 32-bit (Outlook, Project and PowerPoint). We are running Windows 7 x64 on Dell Latitude E6510's with a Broadcom Bluetooth adapter. Most up-to-date drivers, patches, etc. We have 75 computers running on the same hardware and same drivers (same system image) with Office 2007 but only the 13 users who are on Office 2010 32-bit are experiencing issues reliably. I don't know the logic (be it the driver or Office) but the addon 'Send to Bluetooth' was present in the problem applications and disabling that one addon resolves the issue. The addon references a DLL written by Broadcom and I've been disabling this addon as part of our Office 2010 rollout. Use of the addon functionality is not required, just that it be loaded on startup for the Office application. The most reproducible scenarios were on application exit after opening some documents and using 'Send using Email' broke every time. I only ever noticed it on older document formats but I didn't keep a strict tally to say definitively. The common issues were: * Crash on application exit (Excel, PowerPoint, Project) * Crash on application startup (PowerPoint) * Crash during use (Outlook) * When the Send using Email option was used from Word or Excel the Outlook Compose window would be left in an inconsistent state after composing the message and clicking the Send button o The window did not close automatically after sending o Clicking send again would cause the window to be closed automatically but would also send a second message o Some tabs on the ribbon would change names or become empty while the window after clicking send the first time o The window appears to shift between a Compose view and the view seen when you open a message in a window (not viewing it in the reading pane) after clicking send the first time. I did not notice or look to see if the issues occurred more or less frequently when the actual Bluetooth hardware was disabled as this isn't something we plan to control for all of our users (aka disabling this hardware vs. disabling this addon we didn't ask for). We've had sporadic issues with this addon in the past but nothing frequent enough to warrant an investigation. I've got a vbscript and kix script disabling these. If anyone needs them hit me up off list. Good luck, Joe Tinney From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 7:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Win7 x64, Office 2003 and blu-tooth Did for me On 19 April 2011 04:28, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.commailto:k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: Is there an Office Addon installed by the BT software? If so, try disabling it? -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, 19 April 2011 10:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Win7 x64, Office 2003 and blu-tooth Just having BT hardware enabled seems to bring on the problem. Turn it off, and things get better. As far as we can tell, the files are not being transferred via BT. The issue seems mostly to revolve around printing - if you open a document and try to print it, it says you have no printers installed, among other oddities. Kurt On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 18:04, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.commailto:scaes...@caesare.com wrote: Docs xferred via BT? Or just having BT enabled hardware with the OS recognizing causes problems? With Office 2003, or with Office 2K3 _documents_, as you specified? -sc -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 8:44 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Win7 x64, Office 2003 and blu-tooth All, We're pushing out Win7 x64 on new Dell laptops, and we don't yet have word from our corporate overlords regarding our EA, so we can't yet start in on Office 2010, except in limited cases. What we're seeing is that blu-tooth causes major headaches with Office 2003 documents - that is, we have document corruption and especially printing problems. I don't know how my minion found this link, but has anyone else run into this? If so, what are you doing about it? Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to
Re: Win7 x64, Office 2003 and blu-tooth
Unknown. I will have to investigate. On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 20:28, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: Is there an Office Addon installed by the BT software? If so, try disabling it? -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, 19 April 2011 10:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Win7 x64, Office 2003 and blu-tooth Just having BT hardware enabled seems to bring on the problem. Turn it off, and things get better. As far as we can tell, the files are not being transferred via BT. The issue seems mostly to revolve around printing - if you open a document and try to print it, it says you have no printers installed, among other oddities. Kurt On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 18:04, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: Docs xferred via BT? Or just having BT enabled hardware with the OS recognizing causes problems? With Office 2003, or with Office 2K3 _documents_, as you specified? -sc -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 8:44 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Win7 x64, Office 2003 and blu-tooth All, We're pushing out Win7 x64 on new Dell laptops, and we don't yet have word from our corporate overlords regarding our EA, so we can't yet start in on Office 2010, except in limited cases. What we're seeing is that blu-tooth causes major headaches with Office 2003 documents - that is, we have document corruption and especially printing problems. I don't know how my minion found this link, but has anyone else run into this? If so, what are you doing about it? Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
PoE switch for small branch office
Looking for a power over Ethernet switch for a small branch office. 15 users that have IP phones that I'd like to power from the switch instead of each phone having its own power supply Any recommendations? . ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: PoE switch for small branch office
GigE? FE? I bought an HP E2520-24-POE (J9138A) for our VoIP rollout and it has been great. Each phone has its own drop, however, so I didn't bother with GigE. http://www.provantage.com/hewlett-packard-hp-j9138a-aba~7HEWN1LP.htm The E2520 series also comes with the lifetime warranty, which was another attractive feature. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 9:52 AM, David Mazzaccaro david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com wrote: Looking for a power over Ethernet switch for a small branch office. 15 users that have IP phones that I’d like to power from the switch instead of each phone having its own power supply Any recommendations? . ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: PoE switch for small branch office
Thx! From: Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 10:41 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: PoE switch for small branch office GigE? FE? I bought an HP E2520-24-POE (J9138A) for our VoIP rollout and it has been great. Each phone has its own drop, however, so I didn't bother with GigE. http://www.provantage.com/hewlett-packard-hp-j9138a-aba~7HEWN1LP.htm The E2520 series also comes with the lifetime warranty, which was another attractive feature. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 9:52 AM, David Mazzaccaro david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com wrote: Looking for a power over Ethernet switch for a small branch office. 15 users that have IP phones that I’d like to power from the switch instead of each phone having its own power supply Any recommendations? . ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin . ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: PoE switch for small branch office
If you can't go Cisco, I would look at the Linksys/Cisco. I just purchased a 24 port Linksys/Cisco POE 1GB managed switch for only a couple hundred. BF From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 9:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: PoE switch for small branch office Looking for a power over Ethernet switch for a small branch office. 15 users that have IP phones that I'd like to power from the switch instead of each phone having its own power supply Any recommendations? . ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
msDS-MaximumPasswordAge
So I have a 2008 granular pw policy set on an OU, it applies to a security group properly and all of the settings in the policy work except the Max Password Age. It is set to (never). Yet in a year like clockwork the password expires and the account is prompted to change the password. There are no other policies in the domain that even come close to saying a password expires in a year. Any ideas? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
External Storage for Backup
I have a remote location with a single Dell 2900 (Win2K3) server. In addition to being the solitary file server, it also runs Arcserve Disk-to-Disk-Tape to back up itself as well as a windows phone server, a couple of PCs dedicated to special functions and 14 PCs. Room for the Disk-to-Disk-Tape is getting slim so I'm looking for external storage to store the Disk-to-Disk stuff as well as Acronis workstation image files. I'm interested in the Qnap TS-559 Pro II Turbo NAS. It has every connection option (including USB 3.0). I initially plan to connect it to the Dell 2900's 2nd gigabit ethernet port but I'd have both eSATA and USB 3.0 as options if more performance is necessary. Anyone using this unit or similar? I'd be grateful for feedback. Thanks. -- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
OT - Happy Skynet Day
List peeps, Today is SkyNet Day and it becomes self aware: From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skynet_%28Terminator%29 Skynet now will be implemented on April 19, 2011 and will begin its attack against humanity on April 21. Watch all your machines closely and I hope you are all patched up! HA! Devin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Win7 x64, Office 2003 and blu-tooth
If it's the Broadcom (ex Widcomm) BT stack, then it installs some addon into Office (send-to-bluetooth functionality etc.) Disabling that add-on may solve the issue. If it's a different stack (Toshiba etc.) I'm not sure. Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, 19 April 2011 9:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Win7 x64, Office 2003 and blu-tooth Unknown. I will have to investigate. On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 20:28, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: Is there an Office Addon installed by the BT software? If so, try disabling it? -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, 19 April 2011 10:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Win7 x64, Office 2003 and blu-tooth Just having BT hardware enabled seems to bring on the problem. Turn it off, and things get better. As far as we can tell, the files are not being transferred via BT. The issue seems mostly to revolve around printing - if you open a document and try to print it, it says you have no printers installed, among other oddities. Kurt On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 18:04, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: Docs xferred via BT? Or just having BT enabled hardware with the OS recognizing causes problems? With Office 2003, or with Office 2K3 _documents_, as you specified? -sc -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 8:44 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Win7 x64, Office 2003 and blu-tooth All, We're pushing out Win7 x64 on new Dell laptops, and we don't yet have word from our corporate overlords regarding our EA, so we can't yet start in on Office 2010, except in limited cases. What we're seeing is that blu-tooth causes major headaches with Office 2003 documents - that is, we have document corruption and especially printing problems. I don't know how my minion found this link, but has anyone else run into this? If so, what are you doing about it? Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: External Storage for Backup
We're using Dell MD-1000 drive arrays for our disk backups. SAS connected, no issues with performance. Bob Hartung bhart...@wiscoind.com 04/19/11 8:03 AM I have a remote location with a single Dell 2900 (Win2K3) server. In addition to being the solitary file server, it also runs Arcserve Disk-to-Disk-Tape to back up itself as well as a windows phone server, a couple of PCs dedicated to special functions and 14 PCs. Room for the Disk-to-Disk-Tape is getting slim so I'm looking for external storage to store the Disk-to-Disk stuff as well as Acronis workstation image files. I'm interested in the Qnap TS-559 Pro II Turbo NAS. It has every connection option (including USB 3.0). I initially plan to connect it to the Dell 2900's 2nd gigabit ethernet port but I'd have both eSATA and USB 3.0 as options if more performance is necessary. Anyone using this unit or similar? I'd be grateful for feedback. Thanks. -- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Laptop confusion
Hi Folks, We are purchasing a number of laptops are part of a project here. Most of these laptops will be replacing current desktops. Some will be for our nomadic users who work in schools, hospitals, and so on. Up to now we've purchased ThinkPad laptops, but I'm looking around. We've been satisfied with our Dell desktops, so I'm looking at Dell laptops. My Dell rep suggested a Latitude with docking station for my staff with desks, and a Vostro for the remote users. Remote users access our systems via XenApp, so I don't need anything powerful on their end. I'm having a bit of trouble comparing these to the Lenovo units, though. I think the Vostro would be about the same as a SL510 series or around that. The Latitude would be like a T series Lenovo. I can match memory and screen size and most features, but processor core isn't always a direct match. Suggestions? Really for us, best price wins, but I want to compare apples to apples, as it were. Anyone compare these two brands? Am I off on the models here? Thanks, Tom Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: External Storage for Backup
Just got mu new qnap going yesterday (419u), and it rocks. Set it up as a iscsi target. Sent from my iPad On 2011-04-19, at 10:03 AM, Bob Hartung bhart...@wiscoind.com wrote: I have a remote location with a single Dell 2900 (Win2K3) server. In addition to being the solitary file server, it also runs Arcserve Disk-to-Disk-Tape to back up itself as well as a windows phone server, a couple of PCs dedicated to special functions and 14 PCs. Room for the Disk-to-Disk-Tape is getting slim so I'm looking for external storage to store the Disk-to-Disk stuff as well as Acronis workstation image files. I'm interested in the Qnap TS-559 Pro II Turbo NAS. It has every connection option (including USB 3.0). I initially plan to connect it to the Dell 2900's 2nd gigabit ethernet port but I'd have both eSATA and USB 3.0 as options if more performance is necessary. Anyone using this unit or similar? I'd be grateful for feedback. Thanks. -- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Laptop confusion
Does the CPU really matter? Are your users really CPU bound? Surely warranty support etc. are the determining factors? Over a 3 year lifecycle, if you have to wait a few hours extra for a fix per incident, then the loss of business revenue surely outweighs a few extra dollars upfront, or 1% CPU power. I would go Latitude across the fleet, so at least you have standardised peripheral, modular bay devices, docking stations etc. If you remote users come onsite, they can use the stuff you have in your offices. Plus Latitude has a longer projected lifecycle for peripheral, docking stations etc than Vostro. If you are really concerned about CAPEX, then go Vostro across the fleet and budget (worst case) to replace a year earlier. From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Tuesday, 19 April 2011 11:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Laptop confusion Hi Folks, We are purchasing a number of laptops are part of a project here. Most of these laptops will be replacing current desktops. Some will be for our nomadic users who work in schools, hospitals, and so on. Up to now we've purchased ThinkPad laptops, but I'm looking around. We've been satisfied with our Dell desktops, so I'm looking at Dell laptops. My Dell rep suggested a Latitude with docking station for my staff with desks, and a Vostro for the remote users. Remote users access our systems via XenApp, so I don't need anything powerful on their end. I'm having a bit of trouble comparing these to the Lenovo units, though. I think the Vostro would be about the same as a SL510 series or around that. The Latitude would be like a T series Lenovo. I can match memory and screen size and most features, but processor core isn't always a direct match. Suggestions? Really for us, best price wins, but I want to compare apples to apples, as it were. Anyone compare these two brands? Am I off on the models here? Thanks, Tom ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Laptop confusion
I generally concur, with one exception. I would recommend staying away from Vostro's entirely. My experience with them is that they do not hold up over a three year lifespan to the same degree Latitudes do. If you do decide to mix Vostros in, I would definitely take Ken's advice and budget for early replacement. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: Does the CPU really matter? Are your users really CPU bound? Surely warranty support etc. are the determining factors? Over a 3 year lifecycle, if you have to wait a few hours extra for a fix per incident, then the loss of business revenue surely outweighs a few extra dollars upfront, or 1% CPU power. I would go Latitude across the fleet, so at least you have standardised peripheral, modular bay devices, docking stations etc. If you remote users come onsite, they can use the stuff you have in your offices. Plus Latitude has a longer projected lifecycle for peripheral, docking stations etc than Vostro. If you are really concerned about CAPEX, then go Vostro across the fleet and budget (worst case) to replace a year earlier. *From:* Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] *Sent:* Tuesday, 19 April 2011 11:38 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Laptop confusion Hi Folks, We are purchasing a number of laptops are part of a project here. Most of these laptops will be replacing current desktops. Some will be for our nomadic users who work in schools, hospitals, and so on. Up to now we've purchased ThinkPad laptops, but I'm looking around. We've been satisfied with our Dell desktops, so I'm looking at Dell laptops. My Dell rep suggested a Latitude with docking station for my staff with desks, and a Vostro for the remote users. Remote users access our systems via XenApp, so I don't need anything powerful on their end. I'm having a bit of trouble comparing these to the Lenovo units, though. I think the Vostro would be about the same as a SL510 series or around that. The Latitude would be like a T series Lenovo. I can match memory and screen size and most features, but processor core isn't always a direct match. Suggestions? Really for us, best price wins, but I want to compare apples to apples, as it were. Anyone compare these two brands? Am I off on the models here? Thanks, Tom ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Win7 x64, Office 2003 and blu-tooth
I do believe these are Broadcom chips that are involved. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 08:16, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: If it's the Broadcom (ex Widcomm) BT stack, then it installs some addon into Office (send-to-bluetooth functionality etc.) Disabling that add-on may solve the issue. If it's a different stack (Toshiba etc.) I'm not sure. Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, 19 April 2011 9:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Win7 x64, Office 2003 and blu-tooth Unknown. I will have to investigate. On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 20:28, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: Is there an Office Addon installed by the BT software? If so, try disabling it? -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, 19 April 2011 10:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Win7 x64, Office 2003 and blu-tooth Just having BT hardware enabled seems to bring on the problem. Turn it off, and things get better. As far as we can tell, the files are not being transferred via BT. The issue seems mostly to revolve around printing - if you open a document and try to print it, it says you have no printers installed, among other oddities. Kurt On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 18:04, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: Docs xferred via BT? Or just having BT enabled hardware with the OS recognizing causes problems? With Office 2003, or with Office 2K3 _documents_, as you specified? -sc -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 8:44 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Win7 x64, Office 2003 and blu-tooth All, We're pushing out Win7 x64 on new Dell laptops, and we don't yet have word from our corporate overlords regarding our EA, so we can't yet start in on Office 2010, except in limited cases. What we're seeing is that blu-tooth causes major headaches with Office 2003 documents - that is, we have document corruption and especially printing problems. I don't know how my minion found this link, but has anyone else run into this? If so, what are you doing about it? Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Laptop confusion
Thanks for the responses. I'd be fine with the Latitude across fleet, too, but currently the quotes are several hundred more per unit than the Lenovo T, which Dell tell me is the competing Lenovo line. Ken you have a good point about the standardization. Not that it would last long since both Dell and Lenovo seem to change docking station models with each full moon... We have so many docking stations around here that fit...nothing. CPU doesn't matter too much for quote purposes. Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com 4/19/2011 11:45 AM I generally concur, with one exception. I would recommend staying away from Vostro's entirely. My experience with them is that they do not hold up over a three year lifespan to the same degree Latitudes do. If you do decide to mix Vostros in, I would definitely take Ken's advice and budget for early replacement. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: Does the CPU really matter? Are your users really CPU bound? Surely warranty support etc. are the determining factors? Over a 3 year lifecycle, if you have to wait a few hours extra for a fix per incident, then the loss of business revenue surely outweighs a few extra dollars upfront, or 1% CPU power. I would go Latitude across the fleet, so at least you have standardised peripheral, modular bay devices, docking stations etc. If you remote users come onsite, they can use the stuff you have in your offices. Plus Latitude has a longer projected lifecycle for peripheral, docking stations etc than Vostro. If you are really concerned about CAPEX, then go Vostro across the fleet and budget (worst case) to replace a year earlier. From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Tuesday, 19 April 2011 11:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Laptop confusion Hi Folks, We are purchasing a number of laptops are part of a project here. Most of these laptops will be replacing current desktops. Some will be for our nomadic users who work in schools, hospitals, and so on. Up to now we've purchased ThinkPad laptops, but I'm looking around. We've been satisfied with our Dell desktops, so I'm looking at Dell laptops. My Dell rep suggested a Latitude with docking station for my staff with desks, and a Vostro for the remote users. Remote users access our systems via XenApp, so I don't need anything powerful on their end. I'm having a bit of trouble comparing these to the Lenovo units, though. I think the Vostro would be about the same as a SL510 series or around that. The Latitude would be like a T series Lenovo. I can match memory and screen size and most features, but processor core isn't always a direct match. Suggestions? Really for us, best price wins, but I want to compare apples to apples, as it were. Anyone compare these two brands? Am I off on the models here? Thanks, Tom ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Laptop confusion
The Dseries - D600,610,620,630 span 4+ years and all use the same docking station. This is one of the benefits of that line. Plus, the power supplies work across all models. From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 11:02 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Laptop confusion Thanks for the responses. I'd be fine with the Latitude across fleet, too, but currently the quotes are several hundred more per unit than the Lenovo T, which Dell tell me is the competing Lenovo line. Ken you have a good point about the standardization. Not that it would last long since both Dell and Lenovo seem to change docking station models with each full moon... We have so many docking stations around here that fit...nothing. CPU doesn't matter too much for quote purposes. Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com 4/19/2011 11:45 AM I generally concur, with one exception. I would recommend staying away from Vostro's entirely. My experience with them is that they do not hold up over a three year lifespan to the same degree Latitudes do. If you do decide to mix Vostros in, I would definitely take Ken's advice and budget for early replacement. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.commailto:k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: Does the CPU really matter? Are your users really CPU bound? Surely warranty support etc. are the determining factors? Over a 3 year lifecycle, if you have to wait a few hours extra for a fix per incident, then the loss of business revenue surely outweighs a few extra dollars upfront, or 1% CPU power. I would go Latitude across the fleet, so at least you have standardised peripheral, modular bay devices, docking stations etc. If you remote users come onsite, they can use the stuff you have in your offices. Plus Latitude has a longer projected lifecycle for peripheral, docking stations etc than Vostro. If you are really concerned about CAPEX, then go Vostro across the fleet and budget (worst case) to replace a year earlier. From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.orgmailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Tuesday, 19 April 2011 11:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Laptop confusion Hi Folks, We are purchasing a number of laptops are part of a project here. Most of these laptops will be replacing current desktops. Some will be for our nomadic users who work in schools, hospitals, and so on. Up to now we've purchased ThinkPad laptops, but I'm looking around. We've been satisfied with our Dell desktops, so I'm looking at Dell laptops. My Dell rep suggested a Latitude with docking station for my staff with desks, and a Vostro for the remote users. Remote users access our systems via XenApp, so I don't need anything powerful on their end. I'm having a bit of trouble comparing these to the Lenovo units, though. I think the Vostro would be about the same as a SL510 series or around that. The Latitude would be like a T series Lenovo. I can match memory and screen size and most features, but processor core isn't always a direct match. Suggestions? Really for us, best price wins, but I want to compare apples to apples, as it were. Anyone compare these two brands? Am I off on the models here? Thanks, Tom ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
Copiers
Do you guys like Sharp copiers? I'm talking with the local Sharp rep about them buying out our Kyocera lease and brining in a bunch of Sharp MFP/copiers and printers. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Laptop confusion
And when did you last order one? :-) On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 12:07 PM, Crawford, Scott crawfo...@evangel.eduwrote: The Dseries – D600,610,620,630 span 4+ years and all use the same docking station. This is one of the benefits of that line. Plus, the power supplies work across all models. *From:* Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] *Sent:* Tuesday, April 19, 2011 11:02 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Laptop confusion Thanks for the responses. I'd be fine with the Latitude across fleet, too, but currently the quotes are several hundred more per unit than the Lenovo T, which Dell tell me is the competing Lenovo line. Ken you have a good point about the standardization. Not that it would last long since both Dell and Lenovo seem to change docking station models with each full moon... We have so many docking stations around here that fit...nothing. CPU doesn't matter too much for quote purposes. Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com 4/19/2011 11:45 AM I generally concur, with one exception. I would recommend staying away from Vostro's entirely. My experience with them is that they do not hold up over a three year lifespan to the same degree Latitudes do. If you do decide to mix Vostros in, I would definitely take Ken's advice and budget for early replacement. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: Does the CPU really matter? Are your users really CPU bound? Surely warranty support etc. are the determining factors? Over a 3 year lifecycle, if you have to wait a few hours extra for a fix per incident, then the loss of business revenue surely outweighs a few extra dollars upfront, or 1% CPU power. I would go Latitude across the fleet, so at least you have standardised peripheral, modular bay devices, docking stations etc. If you remote users come onsite, they can use the stuff you have in your offices. Plus Latitude has a longer projected lifecycle for peripheral, docking stations etc than Vostro. If you are really concerned about CAPEX, then go Vostro across the fleet and budget (worst case) to replace a year earlier. *From:* Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] *Sent:* Tuesday, 19 April 2011 11:38 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Laptop confusion Hi Folks, We are purchasing a number of laptops are part of a project here. Most of these laptops will be replacing current desktops. Some will be for our nomadic users who work in schools, hospitals, and so on. Up to now we've purchased ThinkPad laptops, but I'm looking around. We've been satisfied with our Dell desktops, so I'm looking at Dell laptops. My Dell rep suggested a Latitude with docking station for my staff with desks, and a Vostro for the remote users. Remote users access our systems via XenApp, so I don't need anything powerful on their end. I'm having a bit of trouble comparing these to the Lenovo units, though. I think the Vostro would be about the same as a SL510 series or around that. The Latitude would be like a T series Lenovo. I can match memory and screen size and most features, but processor core isn't always a direct match. Suggestions? Really for us, best price wins, but I want to compare apples to apples, as it were. Anyone compare these two brands? Am I off on the models here? Thanks, Tom ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to
RE: Laptop confusion
The docking station thing - I don't agree. At least for Dell, it goes by Latitude series, the D-series was introduced in 2003 (IIRC) and ended about 2008. All D-series Latitudes could use the same docking stations (except maybe the ultra light weight models - D210 or something) The E-series was introduced about 2008 and is still current. All E-series should be able to use the same docking stations. Just check the product spec pages for each model you are looking at, and check that the docking station models are the same Cheers Ken From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Wednesday, 20 April 2011 12:02 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Laptop confusion Thanks for the responses. I'd be fine with the Latitude across fleet, too, but currently the quotes are several hundred more per unit than the Lenovo T, which Dell tell me is the competing Lenovo line. Ken you have a good point about the standardization. Not that it would last long since both Dell and Lenovo seem to change docking station models with each full moon... We have so many docking stations around here that fit...nothing. CPU doesn't matter too much for quote purposes. Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.commailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com 4/19/2011 11:45 AM I generally concur, with one exception. I would recommend staying away from Vostro's entirely. My experience with them is that they do not hold up over a three year lifespan to the same degree Latitudes do. If you do decide to mix Vostros in, I would definitely take Ken's advice and budget for early replacement. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.commailto:k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: Does the CPU really matter? Are your users really CPU bound? Surely warranty support etc. are the determining factors? Over a 3 year lifecycle, if you have to wait a few hours extra for a fix per incident, then the loss of business revenue surely outweighs a few extra dollars upfront, or 1% CPU power. I would go Latitude across the fleet, so at least you have standardised peripheral, modular bay devices, docking stations etc. If you remote users come onsite, they can use the stuff you have in your offices. Plus Latitude has a longer projected lifecycle for peripheral, docking stations etc than Vostro. If you are really concerned about CAPEX, then go Vostro across the fleet and budget (worst case) to replace a year earlier. From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.orgmailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Tuesday, 19 April 2011 11:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Laptop confusion Hi Folks, We are purchasing a number of laptops are part of a project here. Most of these laptops will be replacing current desktops. Some will be for our nomadic users who work in schools, hospitals, and so on. Up to now we've purchased ThinkPad laptops, but I'm looking around. We've been satisfied with our Dell desktops, so I'm looking at Dell laptops. My Dell rep suggested a Latitude with docking station for my staff with desks, and a Vostro for the remote users. Remote users access our systems via XenApp, so I don't need anything powerful on their end. I'm having a bit of trouble comparing these to the Lenovo units, though. I think the Vostro would be about the same as a SL510 series or around that. The Latitude would be like a T series Lenovo. I can match memory and screen size and most features, but processor core isn't always a direct match. Suggestions? Really for us, best price wins, but I want to compare apples to apples, as it were. Anyone compare these two brands? Am I off on the models here? Thanks, Tom ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to
Re: Copiers
All copiers suck. The service that goes along with them is the key... We have same day turnaround on all our copiers (3). We also use them as our primary printers. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 12:06 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Do you guys like Sharp copiers? I'm talking with the local Sharp rep about them buying out our Kyocera lease and brining in a bunch of Sharp MFP/copiers and printers. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Laptop confusion
:) My point is that I would expect a similar lifespan for the current E series. 4 years is much greater than every 28 days. From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 11:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Laptop confusion And when did you last order one? :-) On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 12:07 PM, Crawford, Scott crawfo...@evangel.edumailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu wrote: The Dseries - D600,610,620,630 span 4+ years and all use the same docking station. This is one of the benefits of that line. Plus, the power supplies work across all models. From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.orgmailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 11:02 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Laptop confusion Thanks for the responses. I'd be fine with the Latitude across fleet, too, but currently the quotes are several hundred more per unit than the Lenovo T, which Dell tell me is the competing Lenovo line. Ken you have a good point about the standardization. Not that it would last long since both Dell and Lenovo seem to change docking station models with each full moon... We have so many docking stations around here that fit...nothing. CPU doesn't matter too much for quote purposes. Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.commailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com 4/19/2011 11:45 AM I generally concur, with one exception. I would recommend staying away from Vostro's entirely. My experience with them is that they do not hold up over a three year lifespan to the same degree Latitudes do. If you do decide to mix Vostros in, I would definitely take Ken's advice and budget for early replacement. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.commailto:k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: Does the CPU really matter? Are your users really CPU bound? Surely warranty support etc. are the determining factors? Over a 3 year lifecycle, if you have to wait a few hours extra for a fix per incident, then the loss of business revenue surely outweighs a few extra dollars upfront, or 1% CPU power. I would go Latitude across the fleet, so at least you have standardised peripheral, modular bay devices, docking stations etc. If you remote users come onsite, they can use the stuff you have in your offices. Plus Latitude has a longer projected lifecycle for peripheral, docking stations etc than Vostro. If you are really concerned about CAPEX, then go Vostro across the fleet and budget (worst case) to replace a year earlier. From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.orgmailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Tuesday, 19 April 2011 11:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Laptop confusion Hi Folks, We are purchasing a number of laptops are part of a project here. Most of these laptops will be replacing current desktops. Some will be for our nomadic users who work in schools, hospitals, and so on. Up to now we've purchased ThinkPad laptops, but I'm looking around. We've been satisfied with our Dell desktops, so I'm looking at Dell laptops. My Dell rep suggested a Latitude with docking station for my staff with desks, and a Vostro for the remote users. Remote users access our systems via XenApp, so I don't need anything powerful on their end. I'm having a bit of trouble comparing these to the Lenovo units, though. I think the Vostro would be about the same as a SL510 series or around that. The Latitude would be like a T series Lenovo. I can match memory and screen size and most features, but processor core isn't always a direct match. Suggestions? Really for us, best price wins, but I want to compare apples to apples, as it were. Anyone compare these two brands? Am I off on the models here? Thanks, Tom ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions
Re: Copiers
The Sharp machines do not scan to network folders the same way the Kyocera machines do. Other than that we absolutely LOVE the sharp copiers. they are faster and require less maintenance, in our exprience. We have 10+ units at various locations. 4 sharp's introduced over the last 3 years. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:06 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Do you guys like Sharp copiers? I'm talking with the local Sharp rep about them buying out our Kyocera lease and brining in a bunch of Sharp MFP/copiers and printers. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Copiers
+1!!! -- richard Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com 04/19/2011 11:11 AM Please respond to NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com To NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Press this button if the To is a fax number. Enter in the fax number like 123-456-7890. cc Subject Re: Copiers All copiers suck. The service that goes along with them is the key... We have same day turnaround on all our copiers (3). We also use them as our primary printers. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 12:06 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Do you guys like Sharp copiers? I'm talking with the local Sharp rep about them buying out our Kyocera lease and brining in a bunch of Sharp MFP/copiers and printers. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Copiers
Ditto (no pun intended, ok maybe a little) From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 11:10 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Copiers All copiers suck. The service that goes along with them is the key... We have same day turnaround on all our copiers (3). We also use them as our primary printers. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 12:06 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Do you guys like Sharp copiers? I'm talking with the local Sharp rep about them buying out our Kyocera lease and brining in a bunch of Sharp MFP/copiers and printers. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Copiers
Ok... how are they different in the scan? Can they scan to SMB folders or do we have to email the scans or what? From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Copiers The Sharp machines do not scan to network folders the same way the Kyocera machines do. Other than that we absolutely LOVE the sharp copiers. they are faster and require less maintenance, in our exprience. We have 10+ units at various locations. 4 sharp's introduced over the last 3 years. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:06 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Do you guys like Sharp copiers? I'm talking with the local Sharp rep about them buying out our Kyocera lease and brining in a bunch of Sharp MFP/copiers and printers. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Laptop confusion
Okay I retract my comment on the docking station for Dell. Most of our experience is Lenovo docking stations. Crawford, Scott crawfo...@evangel.edu 4/19/2011 12:10 PM J My point is that I would expect a similar lifespan for the current E series. 4 years is much greater than every 28 days. From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 11:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Laptop confusion And when did you last order one? :-) On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 12:07 PM, Crawford, Scott crawfo...@evangel.edu wrote: The Dseries – D600,610,620,630 span 4+ years and all use the same docking station. This is one of the benefits of that line. Plus, the power supplies work across all models. From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 11:02 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Laptop confusion Thanks for the responses. I'd be fine with the Latitude across fleet, too, but currently the quotes are several hundred more per unit than the Lenovo T, which Dell tell me is the competing Lenovo line. Ken you have a good point about the standardization. Not that it would last long since both Dell and Lenovo seem to change docking station models with each full moon... We have so many docking stations around here that fit...nothing. CPU doesn't matter too much for quote purposes. Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com 4/19/2011 11:45 AM I generally concur, with one exception. I would recommend staying away from Vostro's entirely. My experience with them is that they do not hold up over a three year lifespan to the same degree Latitudes do. If you do decide to mix Vostros in, I would definitely take Ken's advice and budget for early replacement. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: Does the CPU really matter? Are your users really CPU bound? Surely warranty support etc. are the determining factors? Over a 3 year lifecycle, if you have to wait a few hours extra for a fix per incident, then the loss of business revenue surely outweighs a few extra dollars upfront, or 1% CPU power. I would go Latitude across the fleet, so at least you have standardised peripheral, modular bay devices, docking stations etc. If you remote users come onsite, they can use the stuff you have in your offices. Plus Latitude has a longer projected lifecycle for peripheral, docking stations etc than Vostro. If you are really concerned about CAPEX, then go Vostro across the fleet and budget (worst case) to replace a year earlier. From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Tuesday, 19 April 2011 11:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Laptop confusion Hi Folks, We are purchasing a number of laptops are part of a project here. Most of these laptops will be replacing current desktops. Some will be for our nomadic users who work in schools, hospitals, and so on. Up to now we've purchased ThinkPad laptops, but I'm looking around. We've been satisfied with our Dell desktops, so I'm looking at Dell laptops. My Dell rep suggested a Latitude with docking station for my staff with desks, and a Vostro for the remote users. Remote users access our systems via XenApp, so I don't need anything powerful on their end. I'm having a bit of trouble comparing these to the Lenovo units, though. I think the Vostro would be about the same as a SL510 series or around that. The Latitude would be like a T series Lenovo. I can match memory and screen size and most features, but processor core isn't always a direct match. Suggestions? Really for us, best price wins, but I want to compare apples to apples, as it were. Anyone compare these two brands? Am I off on the models here? Thanks, Tom ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here:
RE: Copiers
Well, I have to say Ive been mostly happy with the service weve had on the Kyocera copiers, but we have WAY more copiers/printers than we need and the Sharp dealer is offering to buy out the leases and save us about $200 / month on all our copiers/printers/MFPs. That almost sounds too good to be true, but I'm willing to give 'em a shot. :D From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Copiers Ditto (no pun intended, ok maybe a little) From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 11:10 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Copiers All copiers suck. The service that goes along with them is the key... We have same day turnaround on all our copiers (3). We also use them as our primary printers. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 12:06 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Do you guys like Sharp copiers? I'm talking with the local Sharp rep about them buying out our Kyocera lease and brining in a bunch of Sharp MFP/copiers and printers. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Copiers
The way you manage the shares is different, but you can scan to SMB folders. It took several tries for us to get it all figured out. Jury's still out as far as which I like better now that we have it working. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:18 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Ok... how are they different in the scan? Can they scan to SMB folders or do we have to email the scans or what? From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Copiers The Sharp machines do not scan to network folders the same way the Kyocera machines do. Other than that we absolutely LOVE the sharp copiers. they are faster and require less maintenance, in our exprience. We have 10+ units at various locations. 4 sharp's introduced over the last 3 years. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:06 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Do you guys like Sharp copiers? I'm talking with the local Sharp rep about them buying out our Kyocera lease and brining in a bunch of Sharp MFP/copiers and printers. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Deploying Backup Exec Agent
For those who use Backup Exec... Do you usually deploy the free Advaced Open File Option to your servers that receive the Agent? Any problems with it? Thanks. mail2web.com Enhanced email for the mobile individual based on Microsoft® Exchange - http://link.mail2web.com/Personal/EnhancedEmail ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Copiers
Thanks for the info. Currently our Kyocera machines scan to a folder on the server and the sharing is done that way... not on the MFP. Does the Sharp actually do the sharing off itself or does it scan to a server? From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Copiers The way you manage the shares is different, but you can scan to SMB folders. It took several tries for us to get it all figured out. Jury's still out as far as which I like better now that we have it working. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:18 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Ok... how are they different in the scan? Can they scan to SMB folders or do we have to email the scans or what? From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Copiers The Sharp machines do not scan to network folders the same way the Kyocera machines do. Other than that we absolutely LOVE the sharp copiers. they are faster and require less maintenance, in our exprience. We have 10+ units at various locations. 4 sharp's introduced over the last 3 years. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:06 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Do you guys like Sharp copiers? I'm talking with the local Sharp rep about them buying out our Kyocera lease and brining in a bunch of Sharp MFP/copiers and printers. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Copiers
Years ago, I remember a Kyocera contract that included toner resupply... have you factored consumables into the cost savings ? Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Copiers Well, I have to say I’ve been mostly happy with the service we’ve had on the Kyocera copiers, but we have WAY more copiers/printers than we need and the Sharp dealer is offering to buy out the leases and save us about $200 / month on all our copiers/printers/MFPs. That almost sounds too good to be true, but I'm willing to give 'em a shot. :D From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Copiers Ditto (no pun intended, ok maybe a little) From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 11:10 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Copiers All copiers suck. The service that goes along with them is the key... We have same day turnaround on all our copiers (3). We also use them as our primary printers. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 12:06 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Do you guys like Sharp copiers? I'm talking with the local Sharp rep about them buying out our Kyocera lease and brining in a bunch of Sharp MFP/copiers and printers. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Laptop confusion
This is out of left field, but as someone who has owned probably every laptop known to mankind, I will say that I recently bought a Toshiba and was very, very impressed. Outstanding build quality and a bunch of very useful built-in tools. Price is certainly very competitive against the major brands. Fwiw. Alex From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:02 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Laptop confusion Thanks for the responses. I'd be fine with the Latitude across fleet, too, but currently the quotes are several hundred more per unit than the Lenovo T, which Dell tell me is the competing Lenovo line. Ken you have a good point about the standardization. Not that it would last long since both Dell and Lenovo seem to change docking station models with each full moon... We have so many docking stations around here that fit...nothing. CPU doesn't matter too much for quote purposes. Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.commailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com 4/19/2011 11:45 AM I generally concur, with one exception. I would recommend staying away from Vostro's entirely. My experience with them is that they do not hold up over a three year lifespan to the same degree Latitudes do. If you do decide to mix Vostros in, I would definitely take Ken's advice and budget for early replacement. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.commailto:k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: Does the CPU really matter? Are your users really CPU bound? Surely warranty support etc. are the determining factors? Over a 3 year lifecycle, if you have to wait a few hours extra for a fix per incident, then the loss of business revenue surely outweighs a few extra dollars upfront, or 1% CPU power. I would go Latitude across the fleet, so at least you have standardised peripheral, modular bay devices, docking stations etc. If you remote users come onsite, they can use the stuff you have in your offices. Plus Latitude has a longer projected lifecycle for peripheral, docking stations etc than Vostro. If you are really concerned about CAPEX, then go Vostro across the fleet and budget (worst case) to replace a year earlier. From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.orgmailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Tuesday, 19 April 2011 11:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Laptop confusion Hi Folks, We are purchasing a number of laptops are part of a project here. Most of these laptops will be replacing current desktops. Some will be for our nomadic users who work in schools, hospitals, and so on. Up to now we've purchased ThinkPad laptops, but I'm looking around. We've been satisfied with our Dell desktops, so I'm looking at Dell laptops. My Dell rep suggested a Latitude with docking station for my staff with desks, and a Vostro for the remote users. Remote users access our systems via XenApp, so I don't need anything powerful on their end. I'm having a bit of trouble comparing these to the Lenovo units, though. I think the Vostro would be about the same as a SL510 series or around that. The Latitude would be like a T series Lenovo. I can match memory and screen size and most features, but processor core isn't always a direct match. Suggestions? Really for us, best price wins, but I want to compare apples to apples, as it were. Anyone compare these two brands? Am I off on the models here? Thanks, Tom ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
RE: Laptop confusion
Toshiba doesn't work in an enterprise environment. Build quality varies depending on the series (Tecra, Satellite etc). Warranty service varies between countries (RTB, Onsite etc). A lot of the utilities that they bundle in can't be deployed using automated methods, because they require manual intervention. Also, the actual order of installing all the utilities is a PITA. And most of the utilities are just an overhead on the machine - the functionality is already built into Windows. Worked on many accounts that have Toshibas as the platform, plus owned a lot of Toshiba tablet PCs (in the day, they were the only serious TabletPC vendor) From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:al...@sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Wednesday, 20 April 2011 12:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Laptop confusion This is out of left field, but as someone who has owned probably every laptop known to mankind, I will say that I recently bought a Toshiba and was very, very impressed. Outstanding build quality and a bunch of very useful built-in tools. Price is certainly very competitive against the major brands. Fwiw. Alex From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:02 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Laptop confusion Thanks for the responses. I'd be fine with the Latitude across fleet, too, but currently the quotes are several hundred more per unit than the Lenovo T, which Dell tell me is the competing Lenovo line. Ken you have a good point about the standardization. Not that it would last long since both Dell and Lenovo seem to change docking station models with each full moon... We have so many docking stations around here that fit...nothing. CPU doesn't matter too much for quote purposes. Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.commailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com 4/19/2011 11:45 AM I generally concur, with one exception. I would recommend staying away from Vostro's entirely. My experience with them is that they do not hold up over a three year lifespan to the same degree Latitudes do. If you do decide to mix Vostros in, I would definitely take Ken's advice and budget for early replacement. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.commailto:k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: Does the CPU really matter? Are your users really CPU bound? Surely warranty support etc. are the determining factors? Over a 3 year lifecycle, if you have to wait a few hours extra for a fix per incident, then the loss of business revenue surely outweighs a few extra dollars upfront, or 1% CPU power. I would go Latitude across the fleet, so at least you have standardised peripheral, modular bay devices, docking stations etc. If you remote users come onsite, they can use the stuff you have in your offices. Plus Latitude has a longer projected lifecycle for peripheral, docking stations etc than Vostro. If you are really concerned about CAPEX, then go Vostro across the fleet and budget (worst case) to replace a year earlier. From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.orgmailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Tuesday, 19 April 2011 11:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Laptop confusion Hi Folks, We are purchasing a number of laptops are part of a project here. Most of these laptops will be replacing current desktops. Some will be for our nomadic users who work in schools, hospitals, and so on. Up to now we've purchased ThinkPad laptops, but I'm looking around. We've been satisfied with our Dell desktops, so I'm looking at Dell laptops. My Dell rep suggested a Latitude with docking station for my staff with desks, and a Vostro for the remote users. Remote users access our systems via XenApp, so I don't need anything powerful on their end. I'm having a bit of trouble comparing these to the Lenovo units, though. I think the Vostro would be about the same as a SL510 series or around that. The Latitude would be like a T series Lenovo. I can match memory and screen size and most features, but processor core isn't always a direct match. Suggestions? Really for us, best price wins, but I want to compare apples to apples, as it were. Anyone compare these two brands? Am I off on the models here? Thanks, Tom ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail
Re: Copiers
We are able to scan to a folder on a server, as long as it isn't a DC. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:29 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Thanks for the info. Currently our Kyocera machines scan to a folder on the server and the sharing is done that way... not on the MFP. Does the Sharp actually do the sharing off itself or does it scan to a server? From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Copiers The way you manage the shares is different, but you can scan to SMB folders. It took several tries for us to get it all figured out. Jury's still out as far as which I like better now that we have it working. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:18 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Ok... how are they different in the scan? Can they scan to SMB folders or do we have to email the scans or what? From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Copiers The Sharp machines do not scan to network folders the same way the Kyocera machines do. Other than that we absolutely LOVE the sharp copiers. they are faster and require less maintenance, in our exprience. We have 10+ units at various locations. 4 sharp's introduced over the last 3 years. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:06 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Do you guys like Sharp copiers? I'm talking with the local Sharp rep about them buying out our Kyocera lease and brining in a bunch of Sharp MFP/copiers and printers. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Copiers
We have a separate maintenance contract and the Sharp vendor is supposedly factoring those in. I'll double-check when I get the proposal in writing emailed to me this afternoon. But thanks for the reminder. -Original Message- From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:32 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Copiers Years ago, I remember a Kyocera contract that included toner resupply... have you factored consumables into the cost savings ? Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Copiers Well, I have to say Ive been mostly happy with the service weve had on the Kyocera copiers, but we have WAY more copiers/printers than we need and the Sharp dealer is offering to buy out the leases and save us about $200 / month on all our copiers/printers/MFPs. That almost sounds too good to be true, but I'm willing to give 'em a shot. :D From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Copiers Ditto (no pun intended, ok maybe a little) From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 11:10 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Copiers All copiers suck. The service that goes along with them is the key... We have same day turnaround on all our copiers (3). We also use them as our primary printers. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 12:06 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Do you guys like Sharp copiers? I'm talking with the local Sharp rep about them buying out our Kyocera lease and brining in a bunch of Sharp MFP/copiers and printers. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Laptop confusion
Agreed, fair points. Back in the 90s they were at the top of their game, but these days, their b2b strategy is questionable. Certainly for personal use I would consider one. From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:39 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Laptop confusion Toshiba doesn't work in an enterprise environment. Build quality varies depending on the series (Tecra, Satellite etc). Warranty service varies between countries (RTB, Onsite etc). A lot of the utilities that they bundle in can't be deployed using automated methods, because they require manual intervention. Also, the actual order of installing all the utilities is a PITA. And most of the utilities are just an overhead on the machine - the functionality is already built into Windows. Worked on many accounts that have Toshibas as the platform, plus owned a lot of Toshiba tablet PCs (in the day, they were the only serious TabletPC vendor) From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:al...@sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Wednesday, 20 April 2011 12:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Laptop confusion This is out of left field, but as someone who has owned probably every laptop known to mankind, I will say that I recently bought a Toshiba and was very, very impressed. Outstanding build quality and a bunch of very useful built-in tools. Price is certainly very competitive against the major brands. Fwiw. Alex From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:02 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Laptop confusion Thanks for the responses. I'd be fine with the Latitude across fleet, too, but currently the quotes are several hundred more per unit than the Lenovo T, which Dell tell me is the competing Lenovo line. Ken you have a good point about the standardization. Not that it would last long since both Dell and Lenovo seem to change docking station models with each full moon... We have so many docking stations around here that fit...nothing. CPU doesn't matter too much for quote purposes. Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.commailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com 4/19/2011 11:45 AM I generally concur, with one exception. I would recommend staying away from Vostro's entirely. My experience with them is that they do not hold up over a three year lifespan to the same degree Latitudes do. If you do decide to mix Vostros in, I would definitely take Ken's advice and budget for early replacement. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.commailto:k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: Does the CPU really matter? Are your users really CPU bound? Surely warranty support etc. are the determining factors? Over a 3 year lifecycle, if you have to wait a few hours extra for a fix per incident, then the loss of business revenue surely outweighs a few extra dollars upfront, or 1% CPU power. I would go Latitude across the fleet, so at least you have standardised peripheral, modular bay devices, docking stations etc. If you remote users come onsite, they can use the stuff you have in your offices. Plus Latitude has a longer projected lifecycle for peripheral, docking stations etc than Vostro. If you are really concerned about CAPEX, then go Vostro across the fleet and budget (worst case) to replace a year earlier. From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.orgmailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Tuesday, 19 April 2011 11:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Laptop confusion Hi Folks, We are purchasing a number of laptops are part of a project here. Most of these laptops will be replacing current desktops. Some will be for our nomadic users who work in schools, hospitals, and so on. Up to now we've purchased ThinkPad laptops, but I'm looking around. We've been satisfied with our Dell desktops, so I'm looking at Dell laptops. My Dell rep suggested a Latitude with docking station for my staff with desks, and a Vostro for the remote users. Remote users access our systems via XenApp, so I don't need anything powerful on their end. I'm having a bit of trouble comparing these to the Lenovo units, though. I think the Vostro would be about the same as a SL510 series or around that. The Latitude would be like a T series Lenovo. I can match memory and screen size and most features, but processor core isn't always a direct match. Suggestions? Really for us, best price wins, but I want to compare apples to apples, as it were. Anyone compare these two brands? Am I off on the models here? Thanks, Tom ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
RE: msDS-MaximumPasswordAge
If you use ldp and bind to a DC in your domain and then open the Domain NC head (Ctrl+T), can you paste the spew that shows up on the right? Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com w – 312.625.1438 | c – 312.731.3132 From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 7:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: msDS-MaximumPasswordAge So I have a 2008 granular pw policy set on an OU, it applies to a security group properly and all of the settings in the policy work except the Max Password Age. It is set to (never). Yet in a year like clockwork the password expires and the account is prompted to change the password. There are no other policies in the domain that even come close to saying a password expires in a year. Any ideas? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Copiers
Oooh.that might be a problem.. John-AldrichThread-Count From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 1:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Copiers We are able to scan to a folder on a server, as long as it isn't a DC. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:29 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Thanks for the info. Currently our Kyocera machines scan to a folder on the server and the sharing is done that way... not on the MFP. Does the Sharp actually do the sharing off itself or does it scan to a server? From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Copiers The way you manage the shares is different, but you can scan to SMB folders. It took several tries for us to get it all figured out. Jury's still out as far as which I like better now that we have it working. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:18 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Ok... how are they different in the scan? Can they scan to SMB folders or do we have to email the scans or what? From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Copiers The Sharp machines do not scan to network folders the same way the Kyocera machines do. Other than that we absolutely LOVE the sharp copiers. they are faster and require less maintenance, in our exprience. We have 10+ units at various locations. 4 sharp's introduced over the last 3 years. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:06 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Do you guys like Sharp copiers? I'm talking with the local Sharp rep about them buying out our Kyocera lease and brining in a bunch of Sharp MFP/copiers and printers. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadminimage001.jpgimage002.jpg
RE: Copiers
Thanks for the heads-up on the problems scanning to a DC. We'll have to make sure that works or find other options if we decide to go with the Sharp. From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 1:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Copiers We are able to scan to a folder on a server, as long as it isn't a DC. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:29 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Thanks for the info. Currently our Kyocera machines scan to a folder on the server and the sharing is done that way... not on the MFP. Does the Sharp actually do the sharing off itself or does it scan to a server? From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Copiers The way you manage the shares is different, but you can scan to SMB folders. It took several tries for us to get it all figured out. Jury's still out as far as which I like better now that we have it working. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:18 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Ok... how are they different in the scan? Can they scan to SMB folders or do we have to email the scans or what? From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Copiers The Sharp machines do not scan to network folders the same way the Kyocera machines do. Other than that we absolutely LOVE the sharp copiers. they are faster and require less maintenance, in our exprience. We have 10+ units at various locations. 4 sharp's introduced over the last 3 years. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:06 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Do you guys like Sharp copiers? I'm talking with the local Sharp rep about them buying out our Kyocera lease and brining in a bunch of Sharp MFP/copiers and printers. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Laptop confusion
Agree with others comments about the Vostros. They have caused me issues, but the Latitudes are rock solid. Mark From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 9:38 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Laptop confusion Hi Folks, We are purchasing a number of laptops are part of a project here. Most of these laptops will be replacing current desktops. Some will be for our nomadic users who work in schools, hospitals, and so on. Up to now we've purchased ThinkPad laptops, but I'm looking around. We've been satisfied with our Dell desktops, so I'm looking at Dell laptops. My Dell rep suggested a Latitude with docking station for my staff with desks, and a Vostro for the remote users. Remote users access our systems via XenApp, so I don't need anything powerful on their end. I'm having a bit of trouble comparing these to the Lenovo units, though. I think the Vostro would be about the same as a SL510 series or around that. The Latitude would be like a T series Lenovo. I can match memory and screen size and most features, but processor core isn't always a direct match. Suggestions? Really for us, best price wins, but I want to compare apples to apples, as it were. Anyone compare these two brands? Am I off on the models here? Thanks, Tom Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Copiers
You're using a DC as file storage? Any particular reason why? John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com 4/19/2011 10:09 AM Thanks for the heads-up on the problems scanning to a DC. We'll have to make sure that works or find other options if we decide to go with the Sharp. From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 1:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Copiers We are able to scan to a folder on a server, as long as it isn't a DC. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:29 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Thanks for the info. Currently our Kyocera machines scan to a folder on the server and the sharing is done that way... not on the MFP. Does the Sharp actually do the sharing off itself or does it scan to a server? From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Copiers The way you manage the shares is different, but you can scan to SMB folders. It took several tries for us to get it all figured out. Jury's still out as far as which I like better now that we have it working. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:18 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Ok... how are they different in the scan? Can they scan to SMB folders or do we have to email the scans or what? From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Copiers The Sharp machines do not scan to network folders the same way the Kyocera machines do. Other than that we absolutely LOVE the sharp copiers. they are faster and require less maintenance, in our exprience. We have 10+ units at various locations. 4 sharp's introduced over the last 3 years. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:06 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Do you guys like Sharp copiers? I'm talking with the local Sharp rep about them buying out our Kyocera lease and brining in a bunch of Sharp MFP/copiers and printers. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Copiers
Don't go there... :-) On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Joseph Heaton jhea...@dfg.ca.gov wrote: You're using a DC as file storage? Any particular reason why? John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com 4/19/2011 10:09 AM Thanks for the heads-up on the problems scanning to a DC. We'll have to make sure that works or find other options if we decide to go with the Sharp. From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 1:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Copiers We are able to scan to a folder on a server, as long as it isn't a DC. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:29 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Thanks for the info. Currently our Kyocera machines scan to a folder on the server and the sharing is done that way... not on the MFP. Does the Sharp actually do the sharing off itself or does it scan to a server? From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Copiers The way you manage the shares is different, but you can scan to SMB folders. It took several tries for us to get it all figured out. Jury's still out as far as which I like better now that we have it working. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:18 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Ok... how are they different in the scan? Can they scan to SMB folders or do we have to email the scans or what? From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Copiers The Sharp machines do not scan to network folders the same way the Kyocera machines do. Other than that we absolutely LOVE the sharp copiers. they are faster and require less maintenance, in our exprience. We have 10+ units at various locations. 4 sharp's introduced over the last 3 years. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:06 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Do you guys like Sharp copiers? I'm talking with the local Sharp rep about them buying out our Kyocera lease and brining in a bunch of Sharp MFP/copiers and printers. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to
Re: Copiers
We have a few remote locations that have only one server On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 12:30 PM, Joseph Heaton jhea...@dfg.ca.gov wrote: You're using a DC as file storage? Any particular reason why? John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com 4/19/2011 10:09 AM Thanks for the heads-up on the problems scanning to a DC. We'll have to make sure that works or find other options if we decide to go with the Sharp. From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 1:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Copiers We are able to scan to a folder on a server, as long as it isn't a DC. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:29 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Thanks for the info. Currently our Kyocera machines scan to a folder on the server and the sharing is done that way... not on the MFP. Does the Sharp actually do the sharing off itself or does it scan to a server? From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Copiers The way you manage the shares is different, but you can scan to SMB folders. It took several tries for us to get it all figured out. Jury's still out as far as which I like better now that we have it working. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:18 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Ok... how are they different in the scan? Can they scan to SMB folders or do we have to email the scans or what? From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Copiers The Sharp machines do not scan to network folders the same way the Kyocera machines do. Other than that we absolutely LOVE the sharp copiers. they are faster and require less maintenance, in our exprience. We have 10+ units at various locations. 4 sharp's introduced over the last 3 years. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:06 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Do you guys like Sharp copiers? I'm talking with the local Sharp rep about them buying out our Kyocera lease and brining in a bunch of Sharp MFP/copiers and printers. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here:
RE: Copiers
Get one on trial and put it in the location that you get the most trouble with. Half the battle with something like copiers is to get something that has an interface that your users are comfortable with. In my experience people understand that things break from time to time. What they don't understand is why you'd put something in their environment that's a PITA to use the 99% of the time that it's working. Paul -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: 19 April 2011 17:22 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Copiers Well, I have to say I've been mostly happy with the service we've had on the Kyocera copiers, but we have WAY more copiers/printers than we need and the Sharp dealer is offering to buy out the leases and save us about $200 / month on all our copiers/printers/MFPs. That almost sounds too good to be true, but I'm willing to give 'em a shot. :D From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Copiers Ditto (no pun intended, ok maybe a little) From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 11:10 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Copiers All copiers suck. The service that goes along with them is the key... We have same day turnaround on all our copiers (3). We also use them as our primary printers. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 12:06 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Do you guys like Sharp copiers? I'm talking with the local Sharp rep about them buying out our Kyocera lease and brining in a bunch of Sharp MFP/copiers and printers. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- MIRA Ltd Watling Street, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, CV10 0TU, England Registered in England and Wales No. 402570 VAT Registration GB 100 1464 84 The contents of this e-mail are confidential and are solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you receive this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify us either by e-mail, telephone or fax. You should not copy, forward or otherwise disclose the content of the e-mail as this is prohibited. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Copiers
Any possibility of virtualization? You can get a nice field-office server with tons of local storage, and the ESXi 4 OS on a SDRAM card. Boots to that card, and you can create multiple guests. Just a thought, but I do understand having limitations... Jeff Brown 2jbr...@gmail.com 4/19/2011 10:48 AM We have a few remote locations that have only one server On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 12:30 PM, Joseph Heaton jhea...@dfg.ca.gov wrote: You're using a DC as file storage? Any particular reason why? John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com 4/19/2011 10:09 AM Thanks for the heads-up on the problems scanning to a DC. We'll have to make sure that works or find other options if we decide to go with the Sharp. From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 1:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Copiers We are able to scan to a folder on a server, as long as it isn't a DC. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:29 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Thanks for the info. Currently our Kyocera machines scan to a folder on the server and the sharing is done that way... not on the MFP. Does the Sharp actually do the sharing off itself or does it scan to a server? From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Copiers The way you manage the shares is different, but you can scan to SMB folders. It took several tries for us to get it all figured out. Jury's still out as far as which I like better now that we have it working. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:18 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Ok... how are they different in the scan? Can they scan to SMB folders or do we have to email the scans or what? From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Copiers The Sharp machines do not scan to network folders the same way the Kyocera machines do. Other than that we absolutely LOVE the sharp copiers. they are faster and require less maintenance, in our exprience. We have 10+ units at various locations. 4 sharp's introduced over the last 3 years. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:06 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Do you guys like Sharp copiers? I'm talking with the local Sharp rep about them buying out our Kyocera lease and brining in a bunch of Sharp MFP/copiers and printers. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here:
RE: Copiers
We have two server class machines. I listened to Dell instead of the local VAR and got two massive machines instead of a couple pizza box servers for DCs and a NAS. It would have been much smarter to go with the suggestion of the VAR, which is kinda where I am planning on going now, three or 4 years later. :-) Long story short -- when I first came here, I was VERY green and didn't trust the VAR (even though they had directly helped me get this job) and so I listened to Dell when they suggested a couple massive servers with on-board storage. Now I find myself in the position to go back to that very same VAR and ask them for their recommendation for hardware to do pretty much what they suggested several years ago. :D -Original Message- From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 1:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Copiers You're using a DC as file storage? Any particular reason why? John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com 4/19/2011 10:09 AM Thanks for the heads-up on the problems scanning to a DC. We'll have to make sure that works or find other options if we decide to go with the Sharp. From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 1:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Copiers We are able to scan to a folder on a server, as long as it isn't a DC. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:29 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Thanks for the info. Currently our Kyocera machines scan to a folder on the server and the sharing is done that way... not on the MFP. Does the Sharp actually do the sharing off itself or does it scan to a server? From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Copiers The way you manage the shares is different, but you can scan to SMB folders. It took several tries for us to get it all figured out. Jury's still out as far as which I like better now that we have it working. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:18 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Ok... how are they different in the scan? Can they scan to SMB folders or do we have to email the scans or what? From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Copiers The Sharp machines do not scan to network folders the same way the Kyocera machines do. Other than that we absolutely LOVE the sharp copiers. they are faster and require less maintenance, in our exprience. We have 10+ units at various locations. 4 sharp's introduced over the last 3 years. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:06 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Do you guys like Sharp copiers? I'm talking with the local Sharp rep about them buying out our Kyocera lease and brining in a bunch of Sharp MFP/copiers and printers. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here:
RE: Laptop confusion
We had a Latitude where the PCMCIA ejector broke and they had to replace the whole motherboard under warranty. It then promptly broke again and we just said the heck with it and just used it as it was. :D From: Reimer, Mark [mailto:mark.rei...@prairie.edu] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 1:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Laptop confusion Agree with others comments about the Vostros. They have caused me issues, but the Latitudes are rock solid. Mark From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 9:38 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Laptop confusion Hi Folks, We are purchasing a number of laptops are part of a project here. Most of these laptops will be replacing current desktops. Some will be for our nomadic users who work in schools, hospitals, and so on. Up to now we've purchased ThinkPad laptops, but I'm looking around. We've been satisfied with our Dell desktops, so I'm looking at Dell laptops. My Dell rep suggested a Latitude with docking station for my staff with desks, and a Vostro for the remote users. Remote users access our systems via XenApp, so I don't need anything powerful on their end. I'm having a bit of trouble comparing these to the Lenovo units, though. I think the Vostro would be about the same as a SL510 series or around that. The Latitude would be like a T series Lenovo. I can match memory and screen size and most features, but processor core isn't always a direct match. Suggestions? Really for us, best price wins, but I want to compare apples to apples, as it were. Anyone compare these two brands? Am I off on the models here? Thanks, Tom Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Copiers
Yeah... Kinda figured I'd probably do that. :D Not sure which of the two MFPs we'd be replacing I'd want to use... They're not that far apart...only a couple rooms away from each other, but far enough away that it'd be a PITA to walk all the way out to the other one from the other room. :-) -Original Message- From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 1:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Copiers Get one on trial and put it in the location that you get the most trouble with. Half the battle with something like copiers is to get something that has an interface that your users are comfortable with. In my experience people understand that things break from time to time. What they don't understand is why you'd put something in their environment that's a PITA to use the 99% of the time that it's working. Paul -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: 19 April 2011 17:22 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Copiers Well, I have to say I've been mostly happy with the service we've had on the Kyocera copiers, but we have WAY more copiers/printers than we need and the Sharp dealer is offering to buy out the leases and save us about $200 / month on all our copiers/printers/MFPs. That almost sounds too good to be true, but I'm willing to give 'em a shot. :D From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Copiers Ditto (no pun intended, ok maybe a little) From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 11:10 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Copiers All copiers suck. The service that goes along with them is the key... We have same day turnaround on all our copiers (3). We also use them as our primary printers. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 12:06 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Do you guys like Sharp copiers? I'm talking with the local Sharp rep about them buying out our Kyocera lease and brining in a bunch of Sharp MFP/copiers and printers. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- MIRA Ltd Watling Street, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, CV10 0TU, England Registered in England and Wales No. 402570 VAT Registration GB 100 1464 84 The contents of this e-mail are confidential and are solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you receive this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify us either by e-mail, telephone or fax. You should not copy, forward or otherwise disclose the content of the e-mail as this is prohibited. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Laptop confusion
, but I want to compare apples to apples, as it were. Thanks, Tom Well, Tom, if you’re really interested in “comparing apples to apples”, I don’t think Dell makes an apple! I’m sorry, I just couldn’t resist ( Murray ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadminwlEmoticon-smile[1].png
Re: Laptop confusion
I bet we could get a hackintosh running on a Dell if we really wanted to. Sent from my iPad On 2011-04-19, at 1:14 PM, MMF mmfree...@ameritech.net wrote: , but I want to compare apples to apples, as it were. Thanks, Tom Well, Tom, if you’re really interested in “comparing apples to apples”, I don’t think Dell makes an apple! I’m sorry, I just couldn’t resist (wlEmoticon-smile[1].png Murray ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Copiers
We have a SAN and VM Hosts in a data center. No need for that at a small remote site, and scanning to a local server folder, while nice to be able to do, doesn't justify that kind of overhead. If we really need to scan locally we scan to a desktop folder on a local machine. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Joseph Heaton jhea...@dfg.ca.gov wrote: Any possibility of virtualization? You can get a nice field-office server with tons of local storage, and the ESXi 4 OS on a SDRAM card. Boots to that card, and you can create multiple guests. Just a thought, but I do understand having limitations... Jeff Brown 2jbr...@gmail.com 4/19/2011 10:48 AM We have a few remote locations that have only one server On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 12:30 PM, Joseph Heaton jhea...@dfg.ca.gov wrote: You're using a DC as file storage? Any particular reason why? John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com 4/19/2011 10:09 AM Thanks for the heads-up on the problems scanning to a DC. We'll have to make sure that works or find other options if we decide to go with the Sharp. From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 1:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Copiers We are able to scan to a folder on a server, as long as it isn't a DC. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:29 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Thanks for the info. Currently our Kyocera machines scan to a folder on the server and the sharing is done that way... not on the MFP. Does the Sharp actually do the sharing off itself or does it scan to a server? From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Copiers The way you manage the shares is different, but you can scan to SMB folders. It took several tries for us to get it all figured out. Jury's still out as far as which I like better now that we have it working. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:18 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Ok... how are they different in the scan? Can they scan to SMB folders or do we have to email the scans or what? From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Copiers The Sharp machines do not scan to network folders the same way the Kyocera machines do. Other than that we absolutely LOVE the sharp copiers. they are faster and require less maintenance, in our exprience. We have 10+ units at various locations. 4 sharp's introduced over the last 3 years. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:06 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Do you guys like Sharp copiers? I'm talking with the local Sharp rep about them buying out our Kyocera lease and brining in a bunch of Sharp MFP/copiers and printers. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
RE: Copiers
Or even get one of those cheap NAS drives that has SMB and FTP, etc. Aren't they like $100? From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 1:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Copiers We have a SAN and VM Hosts in a data center. No need for that at a small remote site, and scanning to a local server folder, while nice to be able to do, doesn't justify that kind of overhead. If we really need to scan locally we scan to a desktop folder on a local machine. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Joseph Heaton jhea...@dfg.ca.gov wrote: Any possibility of virtualization? You can get a nice field-office server with tons of local storage, and the ESXi 4 OS on a SDRAM card. Boots to that card, and you can create multiple guests. Just a thought, but I do understand having limitations... Jeff Brown 2jbr...@gmail.com 4/19/2011 10:48 AM We have a few remote locations that have only one server On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 12:30 PM, Joseph Heaton jhea...@dfg.ca.gov wrote: You're using a DC as file storage? Any particular reason why? John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com 4/19/2011 10:09 AM Thanks for the heads-up on the problems scanning to a DC. We'll have to make sure that works or find other options if we decide to go with the Sharp. From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 1:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Copiers We are able to scan to a folder on a server, as long as it isn't a DC. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:29 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Thanks for the info. Currently our Kyocera machines scan to a folder on the server and the sharing is done that way... not on the MFP. Does the Sharp actually do the sharing off itself or does it scan to a server? From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Copiers The way you manage the shares is different, but you can scan to SMB folders. It took several tries for us to get it all figured out. Jury's still out as far as which I like better now that we have it working. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:18 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Ok... how are they different in the scan? Can they scan to SMB folders or do we have to email the scans or what? From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Copiers The Sharp machines do not scan to network folders the same way the Kyocera machines do. Other than that we absolutely LOVE the sharp copiers. they are faster and require less maintenance, in our exprience. We have 10+ units at various locations. 4 sharp's introduced over the last 3 years. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:06 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Do you guys like Sharp copiers? I'm talking with the local Sharp rep about them buying out our Kyocera lease and brining in a bunch of Sharp MFP/copiers and printers. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
RE: Copiers
Our Kyocera's suck.. but of course I bought the cheapest ones you can think of... -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 9:07 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Copiers Do you guys like Sharp copiers? I'm talking with the local Sharp rep about them buying out our Kyocera lease and brining in a bunch of Sharp MFP/copiers and printers. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Copiers
Or they've been used for performances... On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 3:04 PM, Jacob ja...@excaliburfilms.com wrote: Our Kyocera's suck.. but of course I bought the cheapest ones you can think of... -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 9:07 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Copiers Do you guys like Sharp copiers? I'm talking with the local Sharp rep about them buying out our Kyocera lease and brining in a bunch of Sharp MFP/copiers and printers. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Copiers
+100 Your level of support is far more important than the feature set. I've worked with Canon, Sharp, Kyocera, Konica/Minota - they all need service too often. I've recommended setting up a cot or the service techs next to the worst offenders. One of our branches just switched to Xerox machines after dealing with Canons for several years. After a rocky start (drivers, etc.) they love them now. Roger Wright ___ Computers make excellent and efficient servants, but I have no wish to serve under them.” - Spock, The Ultimate Computer, stardate 4729.4 On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: All copiers suck. The service that goes along with them is the key... We have same day turnaround on all our copiers (3). We also use them as our primary printers. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 12:06 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Do you guys like Sharp copiers? I'm talking with the local Sharp rep about them buying out our Kyocera lease and brining in a bunch of Sharp MFP/copiers and printers. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Laptop confusion
Well, not until Apple buys Dell "MMF" mmfree...@ameritech.net 4/19/2011 2:14 PM , but I want to compare apples to apples, as it were. Thanks, Tom Well, Tom, if you’re really interested in “comparing apples to apples”, I don’t think Dell makes an apple! I’m sorry, I just couldn’t resist ( Murray ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~---To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.comwith the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Windows 7 deployments - MAK or KMS keys?
For those that have done Windows 7 rollouts to their organizations, have you used MAK keys or KMS keys (and KMS server) on the Windows 7 boxes, and WHY did you chose one way or the other? Is there a general preference? Also, while I'm on the subject of deployment.. We typically have rolled out XP images with Symantec Ghost Enterprise and Sysprep. Can Windows 7 still utilize Sysprep or is there a replacement for that? Thanks. mail2web.com Enhanced email for the mobile individual based on Microsoft® Exchange - http://link.mail2web.com/Personal/EnhancedEmail ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Windows 7 deployments - MAK or KMS keys?
Depending on your company size? We used KMS here since we were doing a lot of re imaging and VDI deployments. With KMS we weren't worried about making sure we did not use up our MAK Keys and had to call MS to reset them. We used Ghost, made a gold image and then syspreped a clone of it -Original Message- From: jesse-r...@wi.rr.com [mailto:jesse-r...@wi.rr.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 3:47 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Windows 7 deployments - MAK or KMS keys? For those that have done Windows 7 rollouts to their organizations, have you used MAK keys or KMS keys (and KMS server) on the Windows 7 boxes, and WHY did you chose one way or the other? Is there a general preference? Also, while I'm on the subject of deployment.. We typically have rolled out XP images with Symantec Ghost Enterprise and Sysprep. Can Windows 7 still utilize Sysprep or is there a replacement for that? Thanks. mail2web.com - Enhanced email for the mobile individual based on Microsoft(r) Exchange - http://link.mail2web.com/Personal/EnhancedEmail ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin _ This e-mail, including attachments, contains information that is confidential and may be protected by attorney/client or other privileges. This e-mail, including attachments, constitutes non-public information intended to be conveyed only to the designated recipient(s). If you are not an intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this e-mail, including attachments, is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify me by e-mail reply and delete the original message and any attachments from your system. _ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Windows 7 deployments - MAK or KMS keys?
+1 to both. -Original Message- From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:cgarciamo...@spragueenergy.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 3:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 deployments - MAK or KMS keys? Depending on your company size? We used KMS here since we were doing a lot of re imaging and VDI deployments. With KMS we weren't worried about making sure we did not use up our MAK Keys and had to call MS to reset them. We used Ghost, made a gold image and then syspreped a clone of it -Original Message- From: jesse-r...@wi.rr.com [mailto:jesse-r...@wi.rr.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 3:47 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Windows 7 deployments - MAK or KMS keys? For those that have done Windows 7 rollouts to their organizations, have you used MAK keys or KMS keys (and KMS server) on the Windows 7 boxes, and WHY did you chose one way or the other? Is there a general preference? Also, while I'm on the subject of deployment.. We typically have rolled out XP images with Symantec Ghost Enterprise and Sysprep. Can Windows 7 still utilize Sysprep or is there a replacement for that? Thanks. mail2web.com - Enhanced email for the mobile individual based on Microsoft(r) Exchange - http://link.mail2web.com/Personal/EnhancedEmail ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin _ This e-mail, including attachments, contains information that is confidential and may be protected by attorney/client or other privileges. This e-mail, including attachments, constitutes non-public information intended to be conveyed only to the designated recipient(s). If you are not an intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this e-mail, including attachments, is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify me by e-mail reply and delete the original message and any attachments from your system. _ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Windows 7 deployments - MAK or KMS keys?
How many times will you re-image those machines? KMS is activated from an internal server within your network compared to MAK which goes straight to MS. We'll be switching to KMS (migrated over using MAK) to manage the licenses ourselves instead of MS. In regards to W7 images... we used MDT2010 to capture and deploy the images. MDT2010 allows you to customize your image, plus it's free. Thank you, _ Cameron Cooper System Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com -Original Message- From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:cgarciamo...@spragueenergy.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 2:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 deployments - MAK or KMS keys? Depending on your company size? We used KMS here since we were doing a lot of re imaging and VDI deployments. With KMS we weren't worried about making sure we did not use up our MAK Keys and had to call MS to reset them. We used Ghost, made a gold image and then syspreped a clone of it -Original Message- From: jesse-r...@wi.rr.com [mailto:jesse-r...@wi.rr.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 3:47 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Windows 7 deployments - MAK or KMS keys? For those that have done Windows 7 rollouts to their organizations, have you used MAK keys or KMS keys (and KMS server) on the Windows 7 boxes, and WHY did you chose one way or the other? Is there a general preference? Also, while I'm on the subject of deployment.. We typically have rolled out XP images with Symantec Ghost Enterprise and Sysprep. Can Windows 7 still utilize Sysprep or is there a replacement for that? Thanks. mail2web.com - Enhanced email for the mobile individual based on Microsoft(r) Exchange - http://link.mail2web.com/Personal/EnhancedEmail ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin _ This e-mail, including attachments, contains information that is confidential and may be protected by attorney/client or other privileges. This e-mail, including attachments, constitutes non-public information intended to be conveyed only to the designated recipient(s). If you are not an intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this e-mail, including attachments, is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify me by e-mail reply and delete the original message and any attachments from your system. _ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Trend Micro Internet Security 14
I've got a client (daughter-in-law to be of one of our managers) who's got a laptop with Trend Micro Internet Security 14 for Dell on it. I'm trying to load Vipre Home Premium on it, but I want to get rid of Trend first. The uninstall utility from Trend's website doesn't do squat. Any ideas on how to get rid of Trend? It refuses to uninstall from the add/remove programs and as I say the uninstall utility doesn't do a thing! :( Thanks! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Trend Micro Internet Security 14
Also, I'm not positive on the version. The Trend Micro diagnostic utility says it's PCCillin 2006, but the actual install path is Trend Micro Internet Security 14. *shrug* Might be the same thing for all I know. -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 5:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Trend Micro Internet Security 14 I've got a client (daughter-in-law to be of one of our managers) who's got a laptop with Trend Micro Internet Security 14 for Dell on it. I'm trying to load Vipre Home Premium on it, but I want to get rid of Trend first. The uninstall utility from Trend's website doesn't do squat. Any ideas on how to get rid of Trend? It refuses to uninstall from the add/remove programs and as I say the uninstall utility doesn't do a thing! :( Thanks! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Trend Micro Internet Security 14
check Trend's site for a cleanup utility. Shauna Hensala From: jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Trend Micro Internet Security 14 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 17:12:04 -0400 Also, I'm not positive on the version. The Trend Micro diagnostic utility says it's PCCillin 2006, but the actual install path is Trend Micro Internet Security 14. *shrug* Might be the same thing for all I know. -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 5:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Trend Micro Internet Security 14 I've got a client (daughter-in-law to be of one of our managers) who's got a laptop with Trend Micro Internet Security 14 for Dell on it. I'm trying to load Vipre Home Premium on it, but I want to get rid of Trend first. The uninstall utility from Trend's website doesn't do squat. Any ideas on how to get rid of Trend? It refuses to uninstall from the add/remove programs and as I say the uninstall utility doesn't do a thing! :( Thanks! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Trend Micro Internet Security 14
Do you actually do any friggin' work, or is this your posted support procedure -- receive problem | forward problem to mailing list | wait for someone else to resolve problem ? --Original Message-- From: John Aldrich To: NT System Admin Issues ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Trend Micro Internet Security 14 Sent: Apr 19, 2011 17:03 I've got a client (daughter-in-law to be of one of our managers) who's got a laptop with Trend Micro Internet Security 14 for Dell on it. I'm trying to load Vipre Home Premium on it, but I want to get rid of Trend first. The uninstall utility from Trend's website doesn't do squat. Any ideas on how to get rid of Trend? It refuses to uninstall from the add/remove programs and as I say the uninstall utility doesn't do a thing! :( Thanks! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Trend Micro Internet Security 14
Thanks, Shauna... I've already tried their diagnostic utility which is *supposed* to uninstall the blasted thing, but it doesnt. :-( From: Shauna Hensala [mailto:she...@msn.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 5:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Trend Micro Internet Security 14 check Trend's site for a cleanup utility. Shauna Hensala From: jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Trend Micro Internet Security 14 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 17:12:04 -0400 Also, I'm not positive on the version. The Trend Micro diagnostic utility says it's PCCillin 2006, but the actual install path is Trend Micro Internet Security 14. *shrug* Might be the same thing for all I know. -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 5:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Trend Micro Internet Security 14 I've got a client (daughter-in-law to be of one of our managers) who's got a laptop with Trend Micro Internet Security 14 for Dell on it. I'm trying to load Vipre Home Premium on it, but I want to get rid of Trend first. The uninstall utility from Trend's website doesn't do squat. Any ideas on how to get rid of Trend? It refuses to uninstall from the add/remove programs and as I say the uninstall utility doesn't do a thing! :( Thanks! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Trend Micro Internet Security 14
Gary, thank you for your concern. I *did* Google the answer and I did try the Diagnostic utility that Trend provides. No luck with either. The only other option Trend offers on their website is to hack the registry. I don't want to, nor do I feel I should have to hack the registry to uninstall something. -Original Message- From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 5:39 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Trend Micro Internet Security 14 Do you actually do any friggin' work, or is this your posted support procedure -- receive problem | forward problem to mailing list | wait for someone else to resolve problem ? --Original Message-- From: John Aldrich To: NT System Admin Issues ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Trend Micro Internet Security 14 Sent: Apr 19, 2011 17:03 I've got a client (daughter-in-law to be of one of our managers) who's got a laptop with Trend Micro Internet Security 14 for Dell on it. I'm trying to load Vipre Home Premium on it, but I want to get rid of Trend first. The uninstall utility from Trend's website doesn't do squat. Any ideas on how to get rid of Trend? It refuses to uninstall from the add/remove programs and as I say the uninstall utility doesn't do a thing! :( Thanks! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Trend Micro Internet Security 14
Somewhere on their site is a step by step guide for a manual uninstall. Also - you might give ccleaner a shot. you also might search the registry for entries. Shauna Hensala From: jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Trend Micro Internet Security 14 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 17:41:36 -0400 Thanks, Shauna... I've already tried their diagnostic utility which is *supposed* to uninstall the blasted thing, but it doesn’t. :-( From: Shauna Hensala [mailto:she...@msn.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 5:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Trend Micro Internet Security 14 check Trend's site for a cleanup utility. Shauna Hensala From: jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Trend Micro Internet Security 14 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 17:12:04 -0400 Also, I'm not positive on the version. The Trend Micro diagnostic utility says it's PCCillin 2006, but the actual install path is Trend Micro Internet Security 14. *shrug* Might be the same thing for all I know. -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 5:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Trend Micro Internet Security 14 I've got a client (daughter-in-law to be of one of our managers) who's got a laptop with Trend Micro Internet Security 14 for Dell on it. I'm trying to load Vipre Home Premium on it, but I want to get rid of Trend first. The uninstall utility from Trend's website doesn't do squat. Any ideas on how to get rid of Trend? It refuses to uninstall from the add/remove programs and as I say the uninstall utility doesn't do a thing! :( Thanks! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Trend Micro Internet Security 14
doesn't matter whether you want to or not - sometimes the answer is not appealing. Shauna Hensala From: jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Trend Micro Internet Security 14 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 17:43:27 -0400 Gary, thank you for your concern. I *did* Google the answer and I did try the Diagnostic utility that Trend provides. No luck with either. The only other option Trend offers on their website is to hack the registry. I don't want to, nor do I feel I should have to hack the registry to uninstall something. -Original Message- From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 5:39 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Trend Micro Internet Security 14 Do you actually do any friggin' work, or is this your posted support procedure -- receive problem | forward problem to mailing list | wait for someone else to resolve problem ? --Original Message-- From: John Aldrich To: NT System Admin Issues ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Trend Micro Internet Security 14 Sent: Apr 19, 2011 17:03 I've got a client (daughter-in-law to be of one of our managers) who's got a laptop with Trend Micro Internet Security 14 for Dell on it. I'm trying to load Vipre Home Premium on it, but I want to get rid of Trend first. The uninstall utility from Trend's website doesn't do squat. Any ideas on how to get rid of Trend? It refuses to uninstall from the add/remove programs and as I say the uninstall utility doesn't do a thing! :( Thanks! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Trend Micro Internet Security 14
Well, I suppose if Trend can't provide a way to remove their junk, I might have to resort to hacking the registry... dont really like it, but I might have to. :-( From: Shauna Hensala [mailto:she...@msn.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 5:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Trend Micro Internet Security 14 doesn't matter whether you want to or not - sometimes the answer is not appealing. Shauna Hensala From: jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Trend Micro Internet Security 14 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 17:43:27 -0400 Gary, thank you for your concern. I *did* Google the answer and I did try the Diagnostic utility that Trend provides. No luck with either. The only other option Trend offers on their website is to hack the registry. I don't want to, nor do I feel I should have to hack the registry to uninstall something. -Original Message- From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 5:39 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Trend Micro Internet Security 14 Do you actually do any friggin' work, or is this your posted support procedure -- receive problem | forward problem to mailing list | wait for someone else to resolve problem ? --Original Message-- From: John Aldrich To: NT System Admin Issues ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Trend Micro Internet Security 14 Sent: Apr 19, 2011 17:03 I've got a client (daughter-in-law to be of one of our managers) who's got a laptop with Trend Micro Internet Security 14 for Dell on it. I'm trying to load Vipre Home Premium on it, but I want to get rid of Trend first. The uninstall utility from Trend's website doesn't do squat. Any ideas on how to get rid of Trend? It refuses to uninstall from the add/remove programs and as I say the uninstall utility doesn't do a thing! :( Thanks! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Trend Micro Internet Security 14
I had to rip that app off a friend's system a while back -- (which proved to be a nightmare until I found a post similar to below) Last post here worked: http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/topic128005.html Not sure what the difference between the downloadable utility from their site the on-board one but the on-board one worked. Tammy Stewart -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 5:47 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Trend Micro Internet Security 14 Well, I suppose if Trend can't provide a way to remove their junk, I might have to resort to hacking the registry... dont really like it, but I might have to. :-( From: Shauna Hensala [mailto:she...@msn.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 5:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Trend Micro Internet Security 14 doesn't matter whether you want to or not - sometimes the answer is not appealing. Shauna Hensala From: jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Trend Micro Internet Security 14 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 17:43:27 -0400 Gary, thank you for your concern. I *did* Google the answer and I did try the Diagnostic utility that Trend provides. No luck with either. The only other option Trend offers on their website is to hack the registry. I don't want to, nor do I feel I should have to hack the registry to uninstall something. -Original Message- From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 5:39 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Trend Micro Internet Security 14 Do you actually do any friggin' work, or is this your posted support procedure -- receive problem | forward problem to mailing list | wait for someone else to resolve problem ? --Original Message-- From: John Aldrich To: NT System Admin Issues ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Trend Micro Internet Security 14 Sent: Apr 19, 2011 17:03 I've got a client (daughter-in-law to be of one of our managers) who's got a laptop with Trend Micro Internet Security 14 for Dell on it. I'm trying to load Vipre Home Premium on it, but I want to get rid of Trend first. The uninstall utility from Trend's website doesn't do squat. Any ideas on how to get rid of Trend? It refuses to uninstall from the add/remove programs and as I say the uninstall utility doesn't do a thing! :( Thanks! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Trend Micro Internet Security 14
Did you try booting to safe mode and then use the diagnostic utility? On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 2:47 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.comwrote: Well, I suppose if Trend can't provide a way to remove their junk, I might have to resort to hacking the registry... don’t really like it, but I might have to. :-( From: Shauna Hensala [mailto:she...@msn.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 5:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Trend Micro Internet Security 14 doesn't matter whether you want to or not - sometimes the answer is not appealing. Shauna Hensala From: jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Trend Micro Internet Security 14 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 17:43:27 -0400 Gary, thank you for your concern. I *did* Google the answer and I did try the Diagnostic utility that Trend provides. No luck with either. The only other option Trend offers on their website is to hack the registry. I don't want to, nor do I feel I should have to hack the registry to uninstall something. -Original Message- From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 5:39 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Trend Micro Internet Security 14 Do you actually do any friggin' work, or is this your posted support procedure -- receive problem | forward problem to mailing list | wait for someone else to resolve problem ? --Original Message-- From: John Aldrich To: NT System Admin Issues ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Trend Micro Internet Security 14 Sent: Apr 19, 2011 17:03 I've got a client (daughter-in-law to be of one of our managers) who's got a laptop with Trend Micro Internet Security 14 for Dell on it. I'm trying to load Vipre Home Premium on it, but I want to get rid of Trend first. The uninstall utility from Trend's website doesn't do squat. Any ideas on how to get rid of Trend? It refuses to uninstall from the add/remove programs and as I say the uninstall utility doesn't do a thing! :( Thanks! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Thank you, Mike Sullivan ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Trend Micro Internet Security 14
Try this one as well http://www.filecluster.com/downloads/Your-Uninstaller-2008.html I've had success with hard to uninstall apps from add/remove programs. -Original Message- From: Tammy Stewart [mailto:copper...@personainternet.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 03:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Trend Micro Internet Security 14 I had to rip that app off a friend's system a while back -- (which proved to be a nightmare until I found a post similar to below) Last post here worked: http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/topic128005.html Not sure what the difference between the downloadable utility from their site the on-board one but the on-board one worked. Tammy Stewart -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 5:47 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Trend Micro Internet Security 14 Well, I suppose if Trend can't provide a way to remove their junk, I might have to resort to hacking the registry... don't really like it, but I might have to. :-( From: Shauna Hensala [mailto:she...@msn.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 5:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Trend Micro Internet Security 14 doesn't matter whether you want to or not - sometimes the answer is not appealing. Shauna Hensala From: jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Trend Micro Internet Security 14 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 17:43:27 -0400 Gary, thank you for your concern. I *did* Google the answer and I did try the Diagnostic utility that Trend provides. No luck with either. The only other option Trend offers on their website is to hack the registry. I don't want to, nor do I feel I should have to hack the registry to uninstall something. -Original Message- From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 5:39 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Trend Micro Internet Security 14 Do you actually do any friggin' work, or is this your posted support procedure -- receive problem | forward problem to mailing list | wait for someone else to resolve problem ? --Original Message-- From: John Aldrich To: NT System Admin Issues ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Trend Micro Internet Security 14 Sent: Apr 19, 2011 17:03 I've got a client (daughter-in-law to be of one of our managers) who's got a laptop with Trend Micro Internet Security 14 for Dell on it. I'm trying to load Vipre Home Premium on it, but I want to get rid of Trend first. The uninstall utility from Trend's website doesn't do squat. Any ideas on how to get rid of Trend? It refuses to uninstall from the add/remove programs and as I say the uninstall utility doesn't do a thing! :( Thanks! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here:
