Re: Training for Unix Support?
Thank you for all the comments. I have started playing with CentOS in our virtual environment. I feel badly continuing this in an NT support list, is there a good list for *nix support? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: I'm Baaaaaaaack!
LOL Thank you all. I have no clue, Kat, I've only been here 4 days and most of that time's been spent labeling cables. I'm contracting for now, with the hope of going perm after a short while. DG -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 7:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: I'm Bck! Wait - I thought it was some leftist revolutionary cabal he's joined up with - and was going to go to Bolivia to work in the jungle...[1] Kurt [1]I suppose that could still be the case, though Heh. On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 14:59, Kat Aylward Langan messagel...@gmail.com wrote: Catholic Health East - are they dropping their Catholic Church affiliation like Catholic Healthcare West is doing? This made the news in the Bay Area this week: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/catholic-healthcare-west-now-dignity-133000820.html On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Guyer, Donald dgu...@che.org wrote: Hey Everyone! Hope everyone is doing well! I finally landed a new gig and am looking forward to absorbing more knowledge, as well as giving some out once in a while. Regards, Don Guyer Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attachments is the property of Catholic Health East and is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). It may contain information that is privileged and confidential. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message, and reply to the sender regarding the error in a separate email. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Kat Aylward Langan ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attachments is the property of Catholic Health East and is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). It may contain information that is privileged and confidential. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message, and reply to the sender regarding the error in a separate email. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Training for Unix Support?
If you're using CentOS, than how about the CentOS list? http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos From: Stephen Wimberly [riverside...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 5:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Training for Unix Support? Thank you for all the comments. I have started playing with CentOS in our virtual environment. I feel badly continuing this in an NT support list, is there a good list for *nix support? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Hyper-V Design Questions
Is “having at least one DC a physical box” still a reasonable best practice in 2012? David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 From: Walker, Michael [mailto:mwal...@mail.cvhp.org] Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 12:02 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Hyper-V Design Questions Thank you Art for your input! The answers to your questions are below. Michael Walker Senior Network Engineer Citrus Valley Health Partners 140 W. College Street, Covina, CA 91723 Phone/Fax/Pager: (888) 299-6882 mwal...@mail.cvhp.orgmailto:mwal...@mail.cvhp.org From: Art DeKneef [mailto:art.dekn...@cox.net]mailto:[mailto:art.dekn...@cox.net] Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 1:31 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: [SPAM] RE: Hyper-V Design Questions Just some general questions and observations. 1. The Hyper-V host server can legally only run the Hyper-V role. So no you can’t move AD and File Print Services to the host. Ok. 2. Are the virtual servers all new servers or replacing existing servers? All are new. 3. Do you have other AD servers in the network? Generally it is best to have a physical server running AD with additional virtual AD server being OK. There is one existing 2008 R2 64-Bit Server running AD, File Print and Remote Desktop Services. Two of the new VMs would add redundancy. 4. How many NICs are you planning for the server? I have 6 NICs - My plan was to use 1 for the host and just 1 for all the VMs or would it be better to give each VM it's own NIC? 5. If these are existing servers, what kind of utilization do they have currently? Utilization is light. There are only 8 users currently, will grow to 15 with the new server and SQL App. Most all will be connecting via RDP. 6. Your first RAID 1 configuration (300GB) doesn’t make sense. You show 300 for system, 60 for host OS and 240 for 3 VMs. (3 x 80) That adds to 600 by my math. So to answer your second question, No I don’t agree with your storage configuration. ☺ Or are you just saying that this is the system partition and it will be used as 60 and 240. I meant 300 total for the RAID Set to be divied up between the OS (60) and the VMs (240). The problem though is 240 GB is not sufficient for all the VMs. I am thinking of changing the storage config to two RAID 5 Arrays - 3x300 + 6x300 + 1 Global Hot Spare. The first RAID Array would be for the OS VMs. The second array would be for the File Data SQL Data. I spoke with the software vendor who will be supporting the SQL Database and they wanted the SQL log files to be located on the same partition as the SQL Data… They said for this small site, performance wasn't an issue and they were concerned about recoverability. 7. Is the SQL data partition configured for growth? Meaning what is the initial use of that 1.2 TB and how long before it gets full. The SQL Data Partition is configured for growth. I do not know the actual size but I am guessing 1.2 TB should last at least 3-5 years. I have 6 open drive bays for expansion if necessary. I’m sure others will have other questions. Art From: Walker, Michael [mailto:mwal...@mail.cvhp.org]mailto:[mailto:mwal...@mail.cvhp.org] Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 12:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Hyper-V Design Questions Hi All, I have very limited experience with Hyper-V and am about to do my first install. Below is a descirption of my requirements and a proposed configuration. My two questions are at the very bottom of the email in Red. Any feedback or assistance is greatly appreciated!!! Michael Walker Senior Network Engineer Citrus Valley Health Partners 140 W. College Street, Covina, CA 91723 Phone/Fax/Pager: (888) 299-6882 mwal...@mail.cvhp.orgmailto:mwal...@mail.cvhp.org Hardware Software: Dell PowerEdge T710 Dual Intel XEON X5650, 2.66Ghz, 12M Cache, Turbo HT (6 Cores per proc) 48GB RAM (12x4GB), 1333MHz Dual Ranked LV RDIMMs PERC H700 RAID Controller, 1 GB NV Cache (10) 300 GB 10K RPM SAS Drives 6GBps Microsoft Windows Server 2008 R2 Enterprise Microsoft SQL 2008 Standard Acronis Backup Recovery Virtual Edition Physical Virtual Servers: Physical Host Minimum Requirements: 1 CPU, 4 GB RAM Virtual Machine 1 – AD, File Print Server Minimum Requirements: 1 CPU, 4 GB RAM, 60 GB HD Space Virtual Machine 2 - SQL Server - MS SQL 2008 R2 Standard Minimum Requirements: 2 CPU, 24 GB RAM, 1200 GB HD Space Virtual Machine 3 - App Server - MS Windows Server 2008 R2 Enterprise Minimum Requirements: 1 CPU, 4 GB RAM, 80 GB HD Space Virtual Machine 4 - Remote Desktop Server - MS Windows Server 2008 R2 Enterprise Minimum Requirements: 1 CPU, 8 GB RAM, 80 GB HD Space Usage: There will be 15 users using RDP to access their EMR Application called MD Office. Each TS Session requires between 50 200
RE: DLP, SIEM, Network Access Control, VPN multi factor authentication, Moving Exchange into a DMZ
Get an e-mail security appliance, keep Exchange all the way back. Also, having the appliance lets you down Exchange for maintenance w/out hiccups (assuming you're not running Exchange clustered). Having an appliance gave unexpected benefits that I hadn't realized I would use. However, seeing as how 90%+ of all incoming mail is SPAM it's nice to not have the Exchange server have to waste any cycles on them. From: itli...@imcu.com [mailto:itli...@imcu.com] Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 11:08 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: DLP, SIEM, Network Access Control, VPN multi factor authentication, Moving Exchange into a DMZ We have 4-5 vendors we work with and use against each other for bidding. But mostly we listen to all and make an informed decision from all the information we get. From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]mailto:[mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Posted At: Friday, January 27, 2012 12:00 PM Posted To: itli...@imcu.commailto:itli...@imcu.com Conversation: DLP, SIEM, Network Access Control, VPN multi factor authentication, Moving Exchange into a DMZ Subject: Re: DLP, SIEM, Network Access Control, VPN multi factor authentication, Moving Exchange into a DMZ I always recommend that Sys Admins and IT Managers have a good technology partner that they can bounce these types of things off of. A single source, if possible, since many of these elements will need to work together. Also, much of this will have hardware components. The Exchange issue is, as others have pointed out, going to involve some sort of email security appliance, of which there are hundreds, if not thousands. Do you have a VAR that you work with? Or do you just purchase everything directly? ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 9:46 AM, itli...@imcu.commailto:itli...@imcu.com itli...@imcu.commailto:itli...@imcu.com wrote: Ok, so we have had a NCUA IT audit and some of the recommendations are as follows: Data Loss Prevention (DLP) The Credit Union should have the the ability to use USB storage devices, DVD, and CD drives turned off unless required. With some for of alerting if a user is trying to use those devices without permission. Security Information and Event Management (SIEM) system The Credit Union should have a SIEM system in place to consolidate logs from all devices and applications, encrypt those logs, have real time alerting, and compliance reporting. VPN access The Credit Union should have Network Access Controls such as scanning the connecting machine for correct configuration prior to allowing access to the network, some kind of multi factor token or device, and a more detailed access list on the VPN client area of the firewall. DMZ The Credit Union should move the Microsoft Exchange server into a DMZ of the firewall or industry best practice for proxing email traffic into and out of the DMZ to protect the Credit Union's internal network if a breach occurs on the email system. With all of this being said, can you get me some vendor information about about each of these areas. It can be freeware, it can be appliances, it can be anything that is easily managable. And Management is looking for a quick turn around on this so whitepapers and recommendations first. This is what I sent my software vendors. Did I ask the right questions? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Hyper-V Design Questions
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 9:49 AM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote: Is “having at least one DC a physical box” still a reasonable best practice in 2012? Well, everything always depends on the details. If you've got a lot of Microsoft infrastructure -- especially virtualization and DNS -- I'd say it's a pretty good idea. Otherwise you can get into chicken-and-egg problems on a site-wide cold start. If that stuff isn't dependent on your AD DC (e.g., you're running VMware and BIND) it doesn't matter so much. (But then you'll likely benefit from having a physical BIND server.) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Hyper-V Design Questions
I don’t know what the general consensus is, but I believe it’s a definite benefit. We’ve gone through a phase where our DC was virtualized and experienced problems because of it. You could call it a bootstrap thing, where your hosts (VM or Hyper-V) need at least DNS and probably AD, but neither is available until the host comes up and your DC guest starts. There are workarounds, like using host files on the VM or Hyper-V hosts for name resolution, and making sure your DC auto starts when the host starts. So yes, I believe it’s still a reasonable best practice. From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 8:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Hyper-V Design Questions Is “having at least one DC a physical box” still a reasonable best practice in 2012? David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 From: Walker, Michael [mailto:mwal...@mail.cvhp.org] Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 12:02 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Hyper-V Design Questions Thank you Art for your input! The answers to your questions are below. Michael Walker Senior Network Engineer Citrus Valley Health Partners 140 W. College Street, Covina, CA 91723 Phone/Fax/Pager: (888) 299-6882 mwal...@mail.cvhp.orgmailto:mwal...@mail.cvhp.org From: Art DeKneef [mailto:art.dekn...@cox.net]mailto:[mailto:art.dekn...@cox.net] Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 1:31 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: [SPAM] RE: Hyper-V Design Questions Just some general questions and observations. 1. The Hyper-V host server can legally only run the Hyper-V role. So no you can’t move AD and File Print Services to the host. Ok. 2. Are the virtual servers all new servers or replacing existing servers? All are new. 3. Do you have other AD servers in the network? Generally it is best to have a physical server running AD with additional virtual AD server being OK. There is one existing 2008 R2 64-Bit Server running AD, File Print and Remote Desktop Services. Two of the new VMs would add redundancy. 4. How many NICs are you planning for the server? I have 6 NICs - My plan was to use 1 for the host and just 1 for all the VMs or would it be better to give each VM it's own NIC? 5. If these are existing servers, what kind of utilization do they have currently? Utilization is light. There are only 8 users currently, will grow to 15 with the new server and SQL App. Most all will be connecting via RDP. 6. Your first RAID 1 configuration (300GB) doesn’t make sense. You show 300 for system, 60 for host OS and 240 for 3 VMs. (3 x 80) That adds to 600 by my math. So to answer your second question, No I don’t agree with your storage configuration. ☺ Or are you just saying that this is the system partition and it will be used as 60 and 240. I meant 300 total for the RAID Set to be divied up between the OS (60) and the VMs (240). The problem though is 240 GB is not sufficient for all the VMs. I am thinking of changing the storage config to two RAID 5 Arrays - 3x300 + 6x300 + 1 Global Hot Spare. The first RAID Array would be for the OS VMs. The second array would be for the File Data SQL Data. I spoke with the software vendor who will be supporting the SQL Database and they wanted the SQL log files to be located on the same partition as the SQL Data… They said for this small site, performance wasn't an issue and they were concerned about recoverability. 7. Is the SQL data partition configured for growth? Meaning what is the initial use of that 1.2 TB and how long before it gets full. The SQL Data Partition is configured for growth. I do not know the actual size but I am guessing 1.2 TB should last at least 3-5 years. I have 6 open drive bays for expansion if necessary. I’m sure others will have other questions. Art From: Walker, Michael [mailto:mwal...@mail.cvhp.org]mailto:[mailto:mwal...@mail.cvhp.org] Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 12:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Hyper-V Design Questions Hi All, I have very limited experience with Hyper-V and am about to do my first install. Below is a descirption of my requirements and a proposed configuration. My two questions are at the very bottom of the email in Red. Any feedback or assistance is greatly appreciated!!! Michael Walker Senior Network Engineer Citrus Valley Health Partners 140 W. College Street, Covina, CA 91723 Phone/Fax/Pager: (888) 299-6882 mwal...@mail.cvhp.orgmailto:mwal...@mail.cvhp.org Hardware Software: Dell PowerEdge T710 Dual Intel XEON X5650, 2.66Ghz, 12M Cache, Turbo HT (6 Cores per proc) 48GB RAM (12x4GB), 1333MHz Dual Ranked LV RDIMMs PERC H700 RAID Controller, 1 GB NV Cache (10) 300 GB 10K RPM SAS Drives 6GBps Microsoft Windows Server 2008 R2 Enterprise Microsoft SQL 2008 Standard
RE: Setup separate lab VLAN
Ok, so here's my question to that. The DHCP server is also the AD and DNS for the network, in addition to having a scope option that points their VoIP phones to a DHCP on their phone system (separate subnet as well). If I change the DG will that affect any of this as well? Jay Dale Senior Systems Administrator P:281-574-2414 From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 8:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Setup separate lab VLAN The DHCP servers needs to know where to send the packets back to, since the ultimate recipient isn't on the local collision domain. So, either you need a static route with a specific gateway, or you need to configure the default gateway, to point to whatever device is going to route the DHCP responses back to the client. For each particular DHCP scope, the DG needs to be set to wherever the client needs to use as its default gateway. The default gateway being the place where clients will send anything that's not on the local subnet (and doesn't have a specific route defined) - hence default gateway. Cheers Ken From: Jay Dale [mailto:jd...@unetek.com]mailto:[mailto:jd...@unetek.com] Sent: Sunday, 29 January 2012 9:26 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Setup separate lab VLAN Making the DG of the DHCP server .30 won't mess up the rest of the network will it? It currently holds 2 scopes, one for each subnet. What should it issue as the DG for the workstations - the firewall or the VLAN IP? And if the VLAN IP, which one? Jay From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu]mailto:[mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu] Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 5:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Setup separate lab VLAN What is the default gateway on the DHCP server? I'm pretty sure it should be 192.168.1.30 I don't think you want to have to add routes to all your devices on your data vlan. From: Jay Dale [mailto:jd...@unetek.com]mailto:[mailto:jd...@unetek.com] Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 9:23 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Setup separate lab VLAN Ok, I added a route on the DHCP server itself with the route add command and I can now ping the DHCP server from a static .2 subnet address and I can ping the .2.10 IP on the lab VLAN from the DHCP server. But it still doesn't seem to be handing out .2 IP's from DHCP. I'm still missing something it seems. Jay Dale Senior Systems Administrator P:281-574-2414 From: Jay Dale [mailto:jd...@unetek.com]mailto:[mailto:jd...@unetek.com] Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 8:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Setup separate lab VLAN The switch is a Layer 3 switch, it's set up as a stack of 4 with the top 1 totally dedicated to lab machines. The others are data for the rest of the network. So essentially the lab machines are segmented from the other switches but still need to access the rest of the network for apps, mail, etc. Currently the routes on the switch are as follows: Default route - IP of firewall 192.168.1.1 192.168.1.0/24 - 192.168.1.30 (IP of data VLAN) 192.168.2.0/24 - 192.168.2.10 (IP of lab VLAN) I can ping both VLAN addresses from the firewall and both from a static IP on the .2 network, but I still can't ping the DHCP server at 192.168.1.2. One person suggested I make the DHCP server DG the IP of the data VLAN, but wouldn't that mess up the rest of the network? Jay Jay Dale Senior Systems Administrator P:281-574-2414 From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]mailto:[mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 7:54 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Setup separate lab VLAN What is this switch connected to? You'll need a route on the switch it's connected to that points to this switch. If the DHCP server is on the other switch, you'll need the VLAN defined there as well. Are the 460's a layer 3 switch? From: Jay Dale [mailto:jd...@unetek.com]mailto:[mailto:jd...@unetek.com] Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 3:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Setup separate lab VLAN When I put a static address of 192.168.2.100 on one of the lab PC's, I can ping the IP address of the lab VLAN which is set to 192.168.2.10 and I can ping the IP of the default data vlan which is 192.168.1.30. However I can't ping the DHCP server address which is 192.168.1.2. Am I missing a route somewhere? Jay Dale Senior Systems Administrator P:281-574-2414 From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu]mailto:[mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu] Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 2:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Setup separate lab VLAN What isn't working. Do the machines on the lab vlan not get an IP address? What device is routing from lab vlan to the vlan where dhcp server is? From: Jay Dale [mailto:jd...@unetek.com]mailto:[mailto:jd...@unetek.com] Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 2:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Setup separate lab VLAN Hey all, I'm truly stuck, hopefully I
RE: Setup separate lab VLAN
Default Gateway is about routing IP packets - not about VOIP or DHCP or AD etc. It's a lower level in the OSI model. If a destination is not on the local subnet, the device needs to know where to hand off the packet. If there is a static route for a particular subnet, then that gateway in the static route is used. If there is no particular route defined, then the default gateway is used as the catchall for all remaining subnets. Basically only you know how your network is routed. All devices on all subnets need to have static routes defined -or- a default gateway in order to reach remote subnets. The specified gateway in the static route or the default gateway needs to be able to route the packets to the destination subnet (or a further upstream gateway). Cheers Ken From: Jay Dale [mailto:jd...@unetek.com] Sent: Monday, 30 January 2012 11:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Setup separate lab VLAN Ok, so here's my question to that. The DHCP server is also the AD and DNS for the network, in addition to having a scope option that points their VoIP phones to a DHCP on their phone system (separate subnet as well). If I change the DG will that affect any of this as well? Jay Dale Senior Systems Administrator P:281-574-2414 From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]mailto:[mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 8:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Setup separate lab VLAN The DHCP servers needs to know where to send the packets back to, since the ultimate recipient isn't on the local collision domain. So, either you need a static route with a specific gateway, or you need to configure the default gateway, to point to whatever device is going to route the DHCP responses back to the client. For each particular DHCP scope, the DG needs to be set to wherever the client needs to use as its default gateway. The default gateway being the place where clients will send anything that's not on the local subnet (and doesn't have a specific route defined) - hence default gateway. Cheers Ken From: Jay Dale [mailto:jd...@unetek.com]mailto:[mailto:jd...@unetek.com] Sent: Sunday, 29 January 2012 9:26 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Setup separate lab VLAN Making the DG of the DHCP server .30 won't mess up the rest of the network will it? It currently holds 2 scopes, one for each subnet. What should it issue as the DG for the workstations - the firewall or the VLAN IP? And if the VLAN IP, which one? Jay From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu]mailto:[mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu] Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 5:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Setup separate lab VLAN What is the default gateway on the DHCP server? I'm pretty sure it should be 192.168.1.30 I don't think you want to have to add routes to all your devices on your data vlan. From: Jay Dale [mailto:jd...@unetek.com]mailto:[mailto:jd...@unetek.com] Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 9:23 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Setup separate lab VLAN Ok, I added a route on the DHCP server itself with the route add command and I can now ping the DHCP server from a static .2 subnet address and I can ping the .2.10 IP on the lab VLAN from the DHCP server. But it still doesn't seem to be handing out .2 IP's from DHCP. I'm still missing something it seems. Jay Dale Senior Systems Administrator P:281-574-2414 From: Jay Dale [mailto:jd...@unetek.com]mailto:[mailto:jd...@unetek.com] Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 8:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Setup separate lab VLAN The switch is a Layer 3 switch, it's set up as a stack of 4 with the top 1 totally dedicated to lab machines. The others are data for the rest of the network. So essentially the lab machines are segmented from the other switches but still need to access the rest of the network for apps, mail, etc. Currently the routes on the switch are as follows: Default route - IP of firewall 192.168.1.1 192.168.1.0/24 - 192.168.1.30 (IP of data VLAN) 192.168.2.0/24 - 192.168.2.10 (IP of lab VLAN) I can ping both VLAN addresses from the firewall and both from a static IP on the .2 network, but I still can't ping the DHCP server at 192.168.1.2. One person suggested I make the DHCP server DG the IP of the data VLAN, but wouldn't that mess up the rest of the network? Jay Jay Dale Senior Systems Administrator P:281-574-2414 From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]mailto:[mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 7:54 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Setup separate lab VLAN What is this switch connected to? You'll need a route on the switch it's connected to that points to this switch. If the DHCP server is on the other switch, you'll need the VLAN defined there as well. Are the 460's a layer 3 switch? From: Jay Dale [mailto:jd...@unetek.com]mailto:[mailto:jd...@unetek.com] Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 3:13 PM To: NT
Re: Hyper-V Design Questions
+1 * * *ASB* *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… * On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Kim Longenbaugh k...@colonialsavings.comwrote: I don’t know what the general consensus is, but I believe it’s a definite benefit. We’ve gone through a phase where our DC was virtualized and experienced problems because of it. You could call it a bootstrap thing, where your hosts (VM or Hyper-V) need at least DNS and probably AD, but neither is available until the host comes up and your DC guest starts. There are workarounds, like using host files on the VM or Hyper-V hosts for name resolution, and making sure your DC auto starts when the host starts. ** ** So yes, I believe it’s still a reasonable best practice. ** ** *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] *Sent:* Monday, January 30, 2012 8:49 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Hyper-V Design Questions ** ** Is “having at least one DC a physical box” still a reasonable best practice in 2012? *David Lum* Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 //* *Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 *From:* Walker, Michael [mailto:mwal...@mail.cvhp.org] *Sent:* Saturday, January 28, 2012 12:02 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Hyper-V Design Questions ** ** ** ** Thank you Art for your input! The answers to your questions are below. ** ** ** ** *Michael Walker* *Senior Network Engineer* Citrus Valley Health Partners 140 W. College Street, Covina, CA 91723 *Phone/Fax/Pager: (888) 299-6882* *mwal...@mail.cvhp.org* mwal...@mail.cvhp.org ** ** *From:* Art DeKneef [mailto:art.dekn...@cox.net] *Sent:* Friday, January 27, 2012 1:31 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* [SPAM] RE: Hyper-V Design Questions ** ** Just some general questions and observations. ** ** **1. **The Hyper-V host server can legally only run the Hyper-V role. So no you can’t move AD and File Print Services to the host. Ok. **2. **Are the virtual servers all new servers or replacing existing servers? All are new. **3. **Do you have other AD servers in the network? Generally it is best to have a physical server running AD with additional virtual AD server being OK. There is one existing 2008 R2 64-Bit Server running AD, File Print and Remote Desktop Services. Two of the new VMs would add redundancy. **4. **How many NICs are you planning for the server? I have 6 NICs - My plan was to use 1 for the host and just 1 for all the VMs or would it be better to give each VM it's own NIC? **5. **If these are existing servers, what kind of utilization do they have currently? Utilization is light. There are only 8 users currently, will grow to 15 with the new server and SQL App. Most all will be connecting via RDP. **6. **Your first RAID 1 configuration (300GB) doesn’t make sense. You show 300 for system, 60 for host OS and 240 for 3 VMs. (3 x 80) That adds to 600 by my math. So to answer your second question, No I don’t agree with your storage configuration. J Or are you just saying that this is the system partition and it will be used as 60 and 240. I meant 300 total for the RAID Set to be divied up between the OS (60) and the VMs (240). The problem though is 240 GB is not sufficient for all the VMs. I am thinking of changing the storage config to two RAID 5 Arrays - 3x300 + 6x300 + 1 Global Hot Spare. The first RAID Array would be for the OS VMs. The second array would be for the File Data SQL Data. I spoke with the software vendor who will be supporting the SQL Database and they wanted the SQL log files to be located on the same partition as the SQL Data… They said for this small site, performance wasn't an issue and they were concerned about recoverability. **7. **Is the SQL data partition configured for growth? Meaning what is the initial use of that 1.2 TB and how long before it gets full.** ** The SQL Data Partition is configured for growth. I do not know the actual size but I am guessing 1.2 TB should last at least 3-5 years. I have 6 open drive bays for expansion if necessary. ** ** I’m sure others will have other questions. ** ** Art ** ** *From:* Walker, Michael [mailto:mwal...@mail.cvhp.org] *Sent:* Friday, January 27, 2012 12:09 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Hyper-V Design Questions ** ** Hi All, ** ** I have very limited experience with Hyper-V and am about to do my first install. Below is a descirption of my requirements and a proposed configuration. My two questions are at the very bottom of the email in Red. ** ** Any feedback or assistance is greatly
RE: Hyper-V Design Questions
3. Good news on the existing physical DC. Helps for when you need to reboot the new server with the 4 VMs. Redundancy is a good thing. 4. Since you have 6 NICs available and are not planning to cluster anything now I think I would use 1 NIC for the management of the host and 2 NICs for the 4 VMs. You could put VM1 and VM2 on one and VM3 and VM4 on the other. Or 1 NIC for VM1 and the other NIC gets VM 2,3 and 4. The theory there being they hit the RDS server and access the EMR application and SQL. Since you say traffic is light you could go a couple of different ways and adjust after viewing your performance metrics. 6. Generally speaking, however a server was to be configured on a physical box applies to a virtual one. So I think having the SQL logs and data on separate partitions is better. If the vendor supporting the database feels the traffic is light and the performance impact is low that having the logs and data on the same partition won’t be an issue, I would go with their recommendation. Again it can be changed if their initial assessment turns out to be inaccurate. Only time and usage will tell. 15 light users can turn into 15 heavy users and performance could suffer. I’m curious about their concerns on recoverability. It’s not like you don’t have redundancy and backup built into your plan. I would leave your storage as you have it. Two RAID 1 partitions and one RAID5. First RAID 1- host OS and two VMs. Second RAID1- File data and two VMs. SQL data and logs on the RAID5. Art From: Walker, Michael [mailto:mwal...@mail.cvhp.org] Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 1:02 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Hyper-V Design Questions Thank you Art for your input! The answers to your questions are below. Michael Walker Senior Network Engineer Citrus Valley Health Partners 140 W. College Street, Covina, CA 91723 Phone/Fax/Pager: (888) 299-6882 mailto:mwal...@mail.cvhp.org mwal...@mail.cvhp.org From: Art DeKneef [mailto:art.dekn...@cox.net] Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 1:31 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: [SPAM] RE: Hyper-V Design Questions Just some general questions and observations. 1. The Hyper-V host server can legally only run the Hyper-V role. So no you can’t move AD and File Print Services to the host. Ok. 2. Are the virtual servers all new servers or replacing existing servers? All are new. 3. Do you have other AD servers in the network? Generally it is best to have a physical server running AD with additional virtual AD server being OK. There is one existing 2008 R2 64-Bit Server running AD, File Print and Remote Desktop Services. Two of the new VMs would add redundancy. 4. How many NICs are you planning for the server? I have 6 NICs - My plan was to use 1 for the host and just 1 for all the VMs or would it be better to give each VM it's own NIC? 5. If these are existing servers, what kind of utilization do they have currently? Utilization is light. There are only 8 users currently, will grow to 15 with the new server and SQL App. Most all will be connecting via RDP. 6. Your first RAID 1 configuration (300GB) doesn’t make sense. You show 300 for system, 60 for host OS and 240 for 3 VMs. (3 x 80) That adds to 600 by my math. So to answer your second question, No I don’t agree with your storage configuration. J Or are you just saying that this is the system partition and it will be used as 60 and 240. I meant 300 total for the RAID Set to be divied up between the OS (60) and the VMs (240). The problem though is 240 GB is not sufficient for all the VMs. I am thinking of changing the storage config to two RAID 5 Arrays - 3x300 + 6x300 + 1 Global Hot Spare. The first RAID Array would be for the OS VMs. The second array would be for the File Data SQL Data. I spoke with the software vendor who will be supporting the SQL Database and they wanted the SQL log files to be located on the same partition as the SQL Data… They said for this small site, performance wasn't an issue and they were concerned about recoverability. 7. Is the SQL data partition configured for growth? Meaning what is the initial use of that 1.2 TB and how long before it gets full. The SQL Data Partition is configured for growth. I do not know the actual size but I am guessing 1.2 TB should last at least 3-5 years. I have 6 open drive bays for expansion if necessary. I’m sure others will have other questions. Art From: Walker, Michael [mailto:mwal...@mail.cvhp.org] Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 12:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Hyper-V Design Questions Hi All, I have very limited experience with Hyper-V and am about to do my first install. Below is a descirption of my requirements and a proposed configuration. My
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Good points. Seems to me this could be mitigated by one Hyper-V host not being on the domain and configured with static (not by reservation, even) IP’s. While I currently do have one physical and one VM DC at my %nightjob% sites I plan on having them all virtualized at some point, with the DC’s not relying on anything in common other than the network switch they’re connected to. DC #2 will be on the workgroup Hyper-V host (and on the free 2008 R2 Hyper-V OS). I used to think a 1:1 host\guest ratio would never make sense, but I am finding I disagree with myself. Dave From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 7:07 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Hyper-V Design Questions I don’t know what the general consensus is, but I believe it’s a definite benefit. We’ve gone through a phase where our DC was virtualized and experienced problems because of it. You could call it a bootstrap thing, where your hosts (VM or Hyper-V) need at least DNS and probably AD, but neither is available until the host comes up and your DC guest starts. There are workarounds, like using host files on the VM or Hyper-V hosts for name resolution, and making sure your DC auto starts when the host starts. So yes, I believe it’s still a reasonable best practice. From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]mailto:[mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 8:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Hyper-V Design Questions Is “having at least one DC a physical box” still a reasonable best practice in 2012? David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 From: Walker, Michael [mailto:mwal...@mail.cvhp.org]mailto:[mailto:mwal...@mail.cvhp.org] Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 12:02 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Hyper-V Design Questions Thank you Art for your input! The answers to your questions are below. Michael Walker Senior Network Engineer Citrus Valley Health Partners 140 W. College Street, Covina, CA 91723 Phone/Fax/Pager: (888) 299-6882 mwal...@mail.cvhp.orgmailto:mwal...@mail.cvhp.org From: Art DeKneef [mailto:art.dekn...@cox.net]mailto:[mailto:art.dekn...@cox.net] Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 1:31 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: [SPAM] RE: Hyper-V Design Questions Just some general questions and observations. 1. The Hyper-V host server can legally only run the Hyper-V role. So no you can’t move AD and File Print Services to the host. Ok. 2. Are the virtual servers all new servers or replacing existing servers? All are new. 3. Do you have other AD servers in the network? Generally it is best to have a physical server running AD with additional virtual AD server being OK. There is one existing 2008 R2 64-Bit Server running AD, File Print and Remote Desktop Services. Two of the new VMs would add redundancy. 4. How many NICs are you planning for the server? I have 6 NICs - My plan was to use 1 for the host and just 1 for all the VMs or would it be better to give each VM it's own NIC? 5. If these are existing servers, what kind of utilization do they have currently? Utilization is light. There are only 8 users currently, will grow to 15 with the new server and SQL App. Most all will be connecting via RDP. 6. Your first RAID 1 configuration (300GB) doesn’t make sense. You show 300 for system, 60 for host OS and 240 for 3 VMs. (3 x 80) That adds to 600 by my math. So to answer your second question, No I don’t agree with your storage configuration. ☺ Or are you just saying that this is the system partition and it will be used as 60 and 240. I meant 300 total for the RAID Set to be divied up between the OS (60) and the VMs (240). The problem though is 240 GB is not sufficient for all the VMs. I am thinking of changing the storage config to two RAID 5 Arrays - 3x300 + 6x300 + 1 Global Hot Spare. The first RAID Array would be for the OS VMs. The second array would be for the File Data SQL Data. I spoke with the software vendor who will be supporting the SQL Database and they wanted the SQL log files to be located on the same partition as the SQL Data… They said for this small site, performance wasn't an issue and they were concerned about recoverability. 7. Is the SQL data partition configured for growth? Meaning what is the initial use of that 1.2 TB and how long before it gets full. The SQL Data Partition is configured for growth. I do not know the actual size but I am guessing 1.2 TB should last at least 3-5 years. I have 6 open drive bays for expansion if necessary. I’m sure others will have other questions. Art From: Walker, Michael [mailto:mwal...@mail.cvhp.org]mailto:[mailto:mwal...@mail.cvhp.org] Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 12:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject:
Re: I'm Baaaaaaaack!
Label them in an obscure code. On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 5:23 AM, Guyer, Donald dgu...@che.org wrote: LOL Thank you all. I have no clue, Kat, I've only been here 4 days and most of that time's been spent labeling cables. I'm contracting for now, with the hope of going perm after a short while. DG -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 7:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: I'm Bck! Wait - I thought it was some leftist revolutionary cabal he's joined up with - and was going to go to Bolivia to work in the jungle...[1] Kurt [1]I suppose that could still be the case, though Heh. On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 14:59, Kat Aylward Langan messagel...@gmail.com wrote: Catholic Health East - are they dropping their Catholic Church affiliation like Catholic Healthcare West is doing? This made the news in the Bay Area this week: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/catholic-healthcare-west-now-dignity-133000820.html On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Guyer, Donald dgu...@che.org wrote: Hey Everyone! Hope everyone is doing well! I finally landed a new gig and am looking forward to absorbing more knowledge, as well as giving some out once in a while. Regards, Don Guyer Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attachments is the property of Catholic Health East and is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). It may contain information that is privileged and confidential. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message, and reply to the sender regarding the error in a separate email. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Kat Aylward Langan ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attachments is the property of Catholic Health East and is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). It may contain information that is privileged and confidential. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message, and reply to the sender regarding the error in a separate email. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
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Welcome home! On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 3:28 PM, Guyer, Donald dgu...@che.org wrote: Hey Everyone! ** ** Hope everyone is doing well! ** ** I finally landed a new gig and am looking forward to absorbing more knowledge, as well as giving some out once in a while. ** ** Regards, ** ** Don Guyer Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attachments is the property of Catholic Health East and is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). It may contain information that is privileged and confidential. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message, and reply to the sender regarding the error in a separate email. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- G. Waleed Kavalec -- Re-electing politicians who voted for the National Defense Authorization Acthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Defense_Authorization_Act_for_Fiscal_Year_2012 . . . is like a flock of chickens voting for Colonel Sanders. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Registered for MMS 2012 - who knew
Looks like an option for me as well...I have to decide if I'd get more out of this or tech-ed. Is there a vendor expo at MMS as well? Which is nicer, Vegas in April or Orlando in June? On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 11:21 AM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote: Turns out me and our Service Desk manager - who now reports to the same manager I do – were both pinging our new boss (been here less than a month) about attending MMS2012 without the other knowing about it. ** ** And just like that, we’re both going J. *David Lum* Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 //* *Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ** ** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Registered for MMS 2012 - who knew
See you there! Going to be a monumental event. Did you get in under the early bird deadline? From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 12:21 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Registered for MMS 2012 - who knew Turns out me and our Service Desk manager - who now reports to the same manager I do - were both pinging our new boss (been here less than a month) about attending MMS2012 without the other knowing about it. And just like that, we're both going J. David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Registered for MMS 2012 - who knew
Ahhh.newbie. J MMS is a must attend event, if you work with System Center products. TechEd is nice, but doesn't have the same community feel and if you work with System Center products you're not going to get the same level of training at TechEd. TechEd is like System Center lite. Vegas in April is awesome. Yes.there's a vendor expo at MMS - again, targeted to System Center. From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 12:55 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Registered for MMS 2012 - who knew Looks like an option for me as well...I have to decide if I'd get more out of this or tech-ed. Is there a vendor expo at MMS as well? Which is nicer, Vegas in April or Orlando in June? On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 11:21 AM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote: Turns out me and our Service Desk manager - who now reports to the same manager I do - were both pinging our new boss (been here less than a month) about attending MMS2012 without the other knowing about it. And just like that, we're both going J. David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Registered for MMS 2012 - who knew
I'd love to justify the expense to my boss - me - and I've told myself there's no chance of that sort of outlay. Maybe if it wasn't in another continent, I'd be a bit nicer to myself. On 30 January 2012 17:21, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote: Turns out me and our Service Desk manager - who now reports to the same manager I do – were both pinging our new boss (been here less than a month) about attending MMS2012 without the other knowing about it. ** ** And just like that, we’re both going J. *David Lum* Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 //* *Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ** ** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. ** IMPORTANT INFORMATION/DISCLAIMER * This document should be read only by those persons to whom it is addressed. If you have received this message it was obviously addressed to you and therefore you can read it, even it we didn't mean to send it to you. However, if the contents of this email make no sense whatsoever then you probably were not the intended recipient, or, alternatively, you are a mindless cretin; either way, you should immediately kill yourself and destroy your computer (not necessarily in that order). Once you have taken this action, please contact us.. no, sorry, you can't use your computer, because you just destroyed it, and possibly also committed suicide afterwards, but I am starting to digress.. * * The originator of this email is not liable for the transmission of the information contained in this communication. Or are they? Either way it's a pretty dull legal query and frankly one I'm not going to dwell on. But should you have nothing better to do, please feel free to ruminate on it, and please pass on any concrete conclusions should you find them. However, if you pass them on via email, be sure to include a disclaimer regarding liability for transmission. * * In the event that the originator did not send this email to you, then please return it to us and attach a scanned-in picture of your mother's brother's wife wearing nothing but a kangaroo suit, and we will immediately refund you exactly half of what you paid for the can of Whiskas you bought when you went to Pets** ** At Home yesterday. * * We take no responsibility for non-receipt of this email because we are running Exchange 5.5 and everyone knows how glitchy that can be. In the event that you do get this message then please note that we take no responsibility for that either. Nor will we accept any liability, tacit or implied, for any damage you may or may not incur as a result of receiving, or not, as the case may be, from time to time, notwithstanding all liabilities implied or otherwise, ummm, hell, where was I...umm, no matter what happens, it is NOT, and NEVER WILL BE, OUR FAULT! * * The comments and opinions expressed herein are my own and NOT those of my employer, who, if he knew I was sending emails and surfing the seamier side of the Internet, would cut off my manhood and feed it to me for afternoon tea. * ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Registered for MMS 2012 - who knew
Yep, just barely! I need to arrange flight-hotel but yeah, we got the conference money in! Dave From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 10:01 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Registered for MMS 2012 - who knew See you there! Going to be a monumental event. Did you get in under the early bird deadline? From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]mailto:[mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 12:21 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Registered for MMS 2012 - who knew Turns out me and our Service Desk manager - who now reports to the same manager I do - were both pinging our new boss (been here less than a month) about attending MMS2012 without the other knowing about it. And just like that, we're both going :). David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Registered for MMS 2012 - who knew
Use money from the training budget. This one week is better than a month of training. From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 1:14 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Registered for MMS 2012 - who knew I'd love to justify the expense to my boss - me - and I've told myself there's no chance of that sort of outlay. Maybe if it wasn't in another continent, I'd be a bit nicer to myself. On 30 January 2012 17:21, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote: Turns out me and our Service Desk manager - who now reports to the same manager I do - were both pinging our new boss (been here less than a month) about attending MMS2012 without the other knowing about it. And just like that, we're both going J. David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. * IMPORTANT INFORMATION/DISCLAIMER * This document should be read only by those persons to whom it is addressed. If you have received this message it was obviously addressed to you and therefore you can read it, even it we didn't mean to send it to you. However, if the contents of this email make no sense whatsoever then you probably were not the intended recipient, or, alternatively, you are a mindless cretin; either way, you should immediately kill yourself and destroy your computer (not necessarily in that order). Once you have taken this action, please contact us.. no, sorry, you can't use your computer, because you just destroyed it, and possibly also committed suicide afterwards, but I am starting to digress.. The originator of this email is not liable for the transmission of the information contained in this communication. Or are they? Either way it's a pretty dull legal query and frankly one I'm not going to dwell on. But should you have nothing better to do, please feel free to ruminate on it, and please pass on any concrete conclusions should you find them. However, if you pass them on via email, be sure to include a disclaimer regarding liability for transmission. In the event that the originator did not send this email to you, then please return it to us and attach a scanned-in picture of your mother's brother's wife wearing nothing but a kangaroo suit, and we will immediately refund you exactly half of what you paid for the can of Whiskas you bought when you went to Pets At Home yesterday. We take no responsibility for non-receipt of this email because we are running Exchange 5.5 and everyone knows how glitchy that can be. In the event that you do get this message then please note that we take no responsibility for that either. Nor will we accept any liability, tacit or implied, for any damage you may or may not incur as a result of receiving, or not, as the case may be, from time to time, notwithstanding all liabilities implied or otherwise, ummm, hell, where was I...umm, no matter what happens, it is NOT, and NEVER WILL BE, OUR FAULT! The comments and opinions expressed herein are my own and NOT those of my employer, who, if he knew I was sending emails and surfing the seamier side of the Internet, would cut off my manhood and feed it to me for afternoon tea. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Registered for MMS 2012 - who knew
Good. Incidentally, head-count this year is set for 5,000 with the potential of going to 5,250 - and if anyone wants to register, better do it soon. Just sayin' From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 1:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Registered for MMS 2012 - who knew Yep, just barely! I need to arrange flight-hotel but yeah, we got the conference money in! Dave From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 10:01 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Registered for MMS 2012 - who knew See you there! Going to be a monumental event. Did you get in under the early bird deadline? From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 12:21 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Registered for MMS 2012 - who knew Turns out me and our Service Desk manager - who now reports to the same manager I do - were both pinging our new boss (been here less than a month) about attending MMS2012 without the other knowing about it. And just like that, we're both going J. David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Registered for MMS 2012 - who knew
Training budget? My training budget comprises what I pay for Internet, and this mailing list. I'm still struggling to find myself the cash for a good lab setup, even though I am desperately in need of one. Maybe next year :-) On 30 January 2012 18:42, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: Use money from the training budget. This one week is better than a month of training. ** ** *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] *Sent:* Monday, January 30, 2012 1:14 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Registered for MMS 2012 - who knew ** ** I'd love to justify the expense to my boss - me - and I've told myself there's no chance of that sort of outlay. Maybe if it wasn't in another continent, I'd be a bit nicer to myself. On 30 January 2012 17:21, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote: Turns out me and our Service Desk manager - who now reports to the same manager I do – were both pinging our new boss (been here less than a month) about attending MMS2012 without the other knowing about it. And just like that, we’re both going J. *David Lum* Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 //* *Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. ** IMPORTANT INFORMATION/DISCLAIMER * This document should be read only by those persons to whom it is addressed. If you have received this message it was obviously addressed to you and therefore you can read it, even it we didn't mean to send it to you. However, if the contents of this email make no sense whatsoever then you probably were not the intended recipient, or, alternatively, you are a mindless cretin; either way, you should immediately kill yourself and destroy your computer (not necessarily in that order). Once you have taken this action, please contact us.. no, sorry, you can't use your computer, because you just destroyed it, and possibly also committed suicide afterwards, but I am starting to digress.. * *The originator of this email is not liable for the transmission of the information contained in this communication. Or are they? Either way it's a pretty dull legal query and frankly one I'm not going to dwell on. But should you have nothing better to do, please feel free to ruminate on it, and please pass on any concrete conclusions should you find them. However, if you pass them on via email, be sure to include a disclaimer regarding liability for transmission.* *In the event that the originator did not send this email to you, then please return it to us and attach a scanned-in picture of your mother's brother's wife wearing nothing but a kangaroo suit, and we will immediately refund you exactly half of what you paid for the can of Whiskas you bought when you went to Pets At Home yesterday. * *We take no responsibility for non-receipt of this email because we are running Exchange 5.5 and everyone knows how glitchy that can be. In the event that you do get this message then please note that we take no responsibility for that either. Nor will we accept any liability, tacit or implied, for any damage you may or may not incur as a result of receiving, or not, as the case may be, from time to time, notwithstanding all liabilities implied or otherwise, ummm, hell, where was I...umm, no matter what happens, it is NOT, and NEVER WILL BE, OUR FAULT! * *The comments and opinions expressed herein are my own and NOT those of my employer, who, if he knew I was sending emails and surfing the seamier side of the Internet, would cut off my manhood and feed it to me for afternoon tea. * ** ** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right
Re: Registered for MMS 2012 - who knew
He is saving his training budget for Citrix Synergy Barcelona! :) Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.comhttp://www.carlwebster.com/ From: James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.commailto:kz2...@googlemail.com Reply-To: NT Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 18:54:53 + To: NT Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Registered for MMS 2012 - who knew Training budget? My training budget comprises what I pay for Internet, and this mailing list. I'm still struggling to find myself the cash for a good lab setup, even though I am desperately in need of one. Maybe next year :-) On 30 January 2012 18:42, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.commailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: Use money from the training budget. This one week is better than a month of training. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Registered for MMS 2012 - who knew
Actually probably a good idea :-) On 30 January 2012 19:22, Webster webs...@carlwebster.com wrote: He is saving his training budget for Citrix Synergy Barcelona! :) Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com http://www.carlwebster.com/ From: James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com Reply-To: NT Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 18:54:53 + To: NT Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Registered for MMS 2012 - who knew Training budget? My training budget comprises what I pay for Internet, and this mailing list. I'm still struggling to find myself the cash for a good lab setup, even though I am desperately in need of one. Maybe next year :-) On 30 January 2012 18:42, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: Use money from the training budget. This one week is better than a month of training. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. ** IMPORTANT INFORMATION/DISCLAIMER * This document should be read only by those persons to whom it is addressed. If you have received this message it was obviously addressed to you and therefore you can read it, even it we didn't mean to send it to you. However, if the contents of this email make no sense whatsoever then you probably were not the intended recipient, or, alternatively, you are a mindless cretin; either way, you should immediately kill yourself and destroy your computer (not necessarily in that order). Once you have taken this action, please contact us.. no, sorry, you can't use your computer, because you just destroyed it, and possibly also committed suicide afterwards, but I am starting to digress.. * * The originator of this email is not liable for the transmission of the information contained in this communication. Or are they? Either way it's a pretty dull legal query and frankly one I'm not going to dwell on. But should you have nothing better to do, please feel free to ruminate on it, and please pass on any concrete conclusions should you find them. However, if you pass them on via email, be sure to include a disclaimer regarding liability for transmission. * * In the event that the originator did not send this email to you, then please return it to us and attach a scanned-in picture of your mother's brother's wife wearing nothing but a kangaroo suit, and we will immediately refund you exactly half of what you paid for the can of Whiskas you bought when you went to Pets** ** At Home yesterday. * * We take no responsibility for non-receipt of this email because we are running Exchange 5.5 and everyone knows how glitchy that can be. In the event that you do get this message then please note that we take no responsibility for that either. Nor will we accept any liability, tacit or implied, for any damage you may or may not incur as a result of receiving, or not, as the case may be, from time to time, notwithstanding all liabilities implied or otherwise, ummm, hell, where was I...umm, no matter what happens, it is NOT, and NEVER WILL BE, OUR FAULT! * * The comments and opinions expressed herein are my own and NOT those of my employer, who, if he knew I was sending emails and surfing the seamier side of the Internet, would cut off my manhood and feed it to me for afternoon tea. * ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Registered for MMS 2012 - who knew
Then we can meet and you can take me out for some Paella. :) Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.comhttp://www.carlwebster.com/ From: James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.commailto:kz2...@googlemail.com Reply-To: NT Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 19:44:24 + To: NT Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Registered for MMS 2012 - who knew Actually probably a good idea :-) On 30 January 2012 19:22, Webster webs...@carlwebster.commailto:webs...@carlwebster.com wrote: He is saving his training budget for Citrix Synergy Barcelona! :) Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.comhttp://www.carlwebster.com/ From: James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.commailto:kz2...@googlemail.com Reply-To: NT Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 18:54:53 + To: NT Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Registered for MMS 2012 - who knew Training budget? My training budget comprises what I pay for Internet, and this mailing list. I'm still struggling to find myself the cash for a good lab setup, even though I am desperately in need of one. Maybe next year :-) On 30 January 2012 18:42, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.commailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: Use money from the training budget. This one week is better than a month of training. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Registered for MMS 2012 - who knew
I think I may owe you a few beers too. Notice how I sneak that offer in there the day before I go on a nasty-looking two-day Citrix consultancy. Expect a query about XenApp 5 printers sometime tomorrow :-0 On 30 January 2012 20:01, Webster webs...@carlwebster.com wrote: Then we can meet and you can take me out for some Paella. :) Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com http://www.carlwebster.com/ From: James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com Reply-To: NT Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 19:44:24 + To: NT Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Registered for MMS 2012 - who knew Actually probably a good idea :-) On 30 January 2012 19:22, Webster webs...@carlwebster.com wrote: He is saving his training budget for Citrix Synergy Barcelona! :) Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com http://www.carlwebster.com/ From: James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com Reply-To: NT Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 18:54:53 + To: NT Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Registered for MMS 2012 - who knew Training budget? My training budget comprises what I pay for Internet, and this mailing list. I'm still struggling to find myself the cash for a good lab setup, even though I am desperately in need of one. Maybe next year :-) On 30 January 2012 18:42, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: Use money from the training budget. This one week is better than a month of training. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. ** IMPORTANT INFORMATION/DISCLAIMER * This document should be read only by those persons to whom it is addressed. If you have received this message it was obviously addressed to you and therefore you can read it, even it we didn't mean to send it to you. However, if the contents of this email make no sense whatsoever then you probably were not the intended recipient, or, alternatively, you are a mindless cretin; either way, you should immediately kill yourself and destroy your computer (not necessarily in that order). Once you have taken this action, please contact us.. no, sorry, you can't use your computer, because you just destroyed it, and possibly also committed suicide afterwards, but I am starting to digress.. * * The originator of this email is not liable for the transmission of the information contained in this communication. Or are they? Either way it's a pretty dull legal query and frankly one I'm not going to dwell on. But should you have nothing better to do, please feel free to ruminate on it, and please pass on any concrete conclusions should you find them. However, if you pass them on via email, be sure to include a disclaimer regarding liability for transmission. * * In the event that the originator did not send this email to you, then please return it to us and attach a scanned-in picture of your mother's brother's wife wearing nothing but a kangaroo suit, and we will immediately refund you exactly half of what you paid for the can of Whiskas you bought when you went to Pets** ** At Home yesterday. * * We take no responsibility for non-receipt of this email because we are running Exchange 5.5 and everyone knows how glitchy that can be. In the event that you do get this message then please note that we take no responsibility for that either. Nor will we accept any liability, tacit or implied, for any damage you may or may not incur as a result of receiving, or not, as the case may be, from time to time, notwithstanding all liabilities implied or otherwise, ummm, hell, where was I...umm, no matter what happens, it is NOT, and NEVER WILL BE, OUR FAULT! * * The comments and opinions expressed herein are my own and NOT those of my employer, who, if he knew I was sending emails and surfing the seamier side of the Internet, would cut off my manhood and feed it to me for afternoon tea. * ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Barracuda Firewall NG
Anyone using, and if so, which model, and how do you like it ? TIA Carol Fee Network Administrator Massachusetts Bar Association 20 West St. Boston, Ma 02110 617-338-0623 c...@massbar.org [cid:image003.jpg@01CCDF67.6B8EFBE0] ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmininline: image003.jpg
Re: Wireless bridge between buildings.
We use Solecktek wireless bridges here and they are very reliable. The bridges we have can run at a max of 100 Mbps but they have units that can run at 1 GB. http://www.solectek.com/products-sweb.php -- Bob Hartung Dir of I.T. Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Reimer, Mark [mailto:mark.rei...@prairie.edu] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 15:31:08 -0600 Subject: Wireless bridge between buildings. Hi folks, Have about 10 building on a campus. They are currently connected with fiber from a main hub. The fibers run through tunnels. The buildings all contain clients (and VOIP phones), with no servers. All the servers are in main building, and all traffic comes through here. The tunnels are old, and there is talk of collapsing them. I’m thinking of possibly putting up line-of-sight antennas on each building as a way of connecting. Distances would be 300 meters. My question is. Is there wireless fast enough for this? Right now the fiber is running 1 GBs (62.5 Um). I would need to have communications be at least this fast, if not faster. If this is not feasible/possible, there is a possibility of running pipe in the current tunnels, and pulling new fiber (50 Um) (which I’m thinking of doing anyway, to get faster speed), then these pipes will be buried when the tunnels are collapsed. Upgrading this in the future would be tedious. Other ideas are welcome. TIA Mark Reimer, A+, MCSA Servers Networking Admin Prairie Bible Institute Box 4000 Three Hills, AB T0M-2N0 Canada Tel: 403-443-5511, Ext. 3476 Fax: 403-443-5540 Email: mark.rei...@prairie.edu www.prairie.edu ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Wireless bridge between buildings.
You are not going to get a gig with wireless. And N will not traverse 300m. Run the pipe. ;) From: Reimer, Mark [mailto:mark.rei...@prairie.edu] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 3:31 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Wireless bridge between buildings. Hi folks, Have about 10 building on a campus. They are currently connected with fiber from a main hub. The fibers run through tunnels. The buildings all contain clients (and VOIP phones), with no servers. All the servers are in main building, and all traffic comes through here. The tunnels are old, and there is talk of collapsing them. I'm thinking of possibly putting up line-of-sight antennas on each building as a way of connecting. Distances would be 300 meters. My question is. Is there wireless fast enough for this? Right now the fiber is running 1 GBs (62.5 Um). I would need to have communications be at least this fast, if not faster. If this is not feasible/possible, there is a possibility of running pipe in the current tunnels, and pulling new fiber (50 Um) (which I'm thinking of doing anyway, to get faster speed), then these pipes will be buried when the tunnels are collapsed. Upgrading this in the future would be tedious. Other ideas are welcome. TIA Mark Reimer, A+, MCSA Servers Networking Admin Prairie Bible Institute Box 4000 Three Hills, AB T0M-2N0 Canada Tel: 403-443-5511, Ext. 3476 Fax: 403-443-5540 Email: mark.rei...@prairie.edumailto:mark.rei...@prairie.edu www.prairie.eduhttp://www.prairie.edu/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Wireless bridge between buildings.
I'd recommend your idea of running pipe in the tunnels before collapsing them. Make sure it's done to code, especially with regard to access points. However, I'd suggest running 9Um single mode fiber while you have the opportunity, because the range of speeds and distances it will support is greater than multimode fiber, and ironically enough, at least at our site, was cheaper than the multimode flavors. The single mode fiber will be able to support the 40 and 100 G Ethernet when it becomes available and cost effective. You would of course want to make sure your switches support the single mode fiber. From: Reimer, Mark [mailto:mark.rei...@prairie.edu] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 3:31 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Wireless bridge between buildings. Hi folks, Have about 10 building on a campus. They are currently connected with fiber from a main hub. The fibers run through tunnels. The buildings all contain clients (and VOIP phones), with no servers. All the servers are in main building, and all traffic comes through here. The tunnels are old, and there is talk of collapsing them. I'm thinking of possibly putting up line-of-sight antennas on each building as a way of connecting. Distances would be 300 meters. My question is. Is there wireless fast enough for this? Right now the fiber is running 1 GBs (62.5 Um). I would need to have communications be at least this fast, if not faster. If this is not feasible/possible, there is a possibility of running pipe in the current tunnels, and pulling new fiber (50 Um) (which I'm thinking of doing anyway, to get faster speed), then these pipes will be buried when the tunnels are collapsed. Upgrading this in the future would be tedious. Other ideas are welcome. TIA Mark Reimer, A+, MCSA Servers Networking Admin Prairie Bible Institute Box 4000 Three Hills, AB T0M-2N0 Canada Tel: 403-443-5511, Ext. 3476 Fax: 403-443-5540 Email: mark.rei...@prairie.edumailto:mark.rei...@prairie.edu www.prairie.eduhttp://www.prairie.edu/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Wireless bridge between buildings.
Don't build your futur with a 1 Gbs link... 1 Gbs will be the trafic from an AP soon... Go with fiber, wireless will never be as reliable. 50 microns fiber will run at 10Gbs for 300m or less and run some 9 microns alongside just in case... De : Reimer, Mark [mailto:mark.rei...@prairie.edu] Envoyé : 30 janvier 2012 16:31 À : NT System Admin Issues Objet : Wireless bridge between buildings. Hi folks, Have about 10 building on a campus. They are currently connected with fiber from a main hub. The fibers run through tunnels. The buildings all contain clients (and VOIP phones), with no servers. All the servers are in main building, and all traffic comes through here. The tunnels are old, and there is talk of collapsing them. I'm thinking of possibly putting up line-of-sight antennas on each building as a way of connecting. Distances would be 300 meters. My question is. Is there wireless fast enough for this? Right now the fiber is running 1 GBs (62.5 Um). I would need to have communications be at least this fast, if not faster. If this is not feasible/possible, there is a possibility of running pipe in the current tunnels, and pulling new fiber (50 Um) (which I'm thinking of doing anyway, to get faster speed), then these pipes will be buried when the tunnels are collapsed. Upgrading this in the future would be tedious. Other ideas are welcome. TIA Mark Reimer, A+, MCSA Servers Networking Admin Prairie Bible Institute Box 4000 Three Hills, AB T0M-2N0 Canada Tel: 403-443-5511, Ext. 3476 Fax: 403-443-5540 Email: mark.rei...@prairie.edu www.prairie.edu http://www.prairie.edu/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Patch management software...
I'm looking for affordable patch management software for several of my small business clients. Workstation numbers range from 4-80 PCs running XP, Vista, Windows7 and a few Macs. It's okay if I can't find anything to work with the Macs. I like the Secunia product but I didn't see an offering for users with very small number of workstations. What are people using? Are there any free options out there that are worthwhile? Thanks, Mike ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Wireless bridge between buildings.
If you truly need that kind of bandwidth, run a pipe. Otherwise, make a true determination of your bandwidth needs, and you may be able to get away with wireless. -- Espi On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Reimer, Mark mark.rei...@prairie.eduwrote: Hi folks, ** ** Have about 10 building on a campus. They are currently connected with fiber from a main hub. The fibers run through tunnels. The buildings all contain clients (and VOIP phones), with no servers. All the servers are in main building, and all traffic comes through here. ** ** The tunnels are old, and there is talk of collapsing them. I’m thinking of possibly putting up line-of-sight antennas on each building as a way of connecting. Distances would be 300 meters. ** ** My question is. Is there wireless fast enough for this? Right now the fiber is running 1 GBs (62.5 Um). I would need to have communications be at least this fast, if not faster. ** ** If this is not feasible/possible, there is a possibility of running pipe in the current tunnels, and pulling new fiber (50 Um) (which I’m thinking of doing anyway, to get faster speed), then these pipes will be buried when the tunnels are collapsed. Upgrading this in the future would be tedious.* *** ** ** Other ideas are welcome. ** ** TIA ** ** Mark Reimer, A+, MCSA Servers Networking Admin Prairie Bible Institute Box 4000 Three Hills, AB T0M-2N0 Canada Tel: 403-443-5511, Ext. 3476 Fax: 403-443-5540 Email: mark.rei...@prairie.edu www.prairie.edu ** ** ** ** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Wireless bridge between buildings.
Run the fiber. You'll never regret it. You already have end to end equipment. Your cost would just be the fiber. From: Reimer, Mark [mailto:mark.rei...@prairie.edu] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 2:31 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Wireless bridge between buildings. Hi folks, Have about 10 building on a campus. They are currently connected with fiber from a main hub. The fibers run through tunnels. The buildings all contain clients (and VOIP phones), with no servers. All the servers are in main building, and all traffic comes through here. The tunnels are old, and there is talk of collapsing them. I'm thinking of possibly putting up line-of-sight antennas on each building as a way of connecting. Distances would be 300 meters. My question is. Is there wireless fast enough for this? Right now the fiber is running 1 GBs (62.5 Um). I would need to have communications be at least this fast, if not faster. If this is not feasible/possible, there is a possibility of running pipe in the current tunnels, and pulling new fiber (50 Um) (which I'm thinking of doing anyway, to get faster speed), then these pipes will be buried when the tunnels are collapsed. Upgrading this in the future would be tedious. Other ideas are welcome. TIA Mark Reimer, A+, MCSA Servers Networking Admin Prairie Bible Institute Box 4000 Three Hills, AB T0M-2N0 Canada Tel: 403-443-5511, Ext. 3476 Fax: 403-443-5540 Email: mark.rei...@prairie.edu www.prairie.edu http://www.prairie.edu/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Wireless bridge between buildings.
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Jeff Brown jbr...@webcoindustries.com wrote: You are not going to get a gig with wireless. And N will not traverse 300m. There is more to the world than 802.11. There are proprietary solutions which will do longer distances and sustained high data rates. (I don't know if they'll do gigabit, but I've definitely seen claims of 100 megabit.) However it's licensed spectrum and rather expensive. I'm looking at a solution to go between two sites, a couple miles, two hops, ~20 megabits, and we're talking $10K. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Wireless bridge between buildings.
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Reimer, Mark mark.rei...@prairie.edu wrote: Have about 10 building on a campus. ... fiber is running 1 GBs ... I would need to have communications be at least this fast, if not faster. ... If this is not feasible/possible, there is a possibility of running pipe in the current tunnels ... Given your statement of at least this fast, if not faster, I would suggest sticking with hard lines. That implies real bandwidth demands (i.e., not just web browsing and light email). In any such environment, demand is high and always increasing. While wireless has come a long ways in recent years, for at least the near future, hardlines will still be faster. I would contact some vendors who specialize in this sort of thing (campus underground fiber installations), who is also familiar with your switch equipment. That way they can spec out something that will meet your needs and work with your equipment. As others have said, single-mode fiber is generally capable of higher speeds/longer distances. Whether that's right for you depends on distances and speeds. ... then these pipes will be buried when the tunnels are collapsed. Upgrading this in the future would be tedious. Properly done, any buried conduit should be easily accessible from the surface, so future upgrades would be a matter of opening covers and using the pull-strings left from the last time. Again, planning and expertise make all the difference here. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Patch management software...
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 4:58 PM, ntsysadmin ntsysad...@rccs.org wrote: I’m looking for affordable patch management software for several of my small business clients. ... Are there any free options out there that are worthwhile? WSUS. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Patch management software...
Have you looked at Windows Intune? From: ntsysadmin [mailto:ntsysad...@rccs.org] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 4:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Patch management software... I'm looking for affordable patch management software for several of my small business clients. Workstation numbers range from 4-80 PCs running XP, Vista, Windows7 and a few Macs. It's okay if I can't find anything to work with the Macs. I like the Secunia product but I didn't see an offering for users with very small number of workstations. What are people using? Are there any free options out there that are worthwhile? Thanks, Mike ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Patch management software...
Hey Mike We have about 150 users and have the CSI Secunia product. It integrates quite well into WSUS and takes little time to add an adobe or quicktime update. Sent from my BlackBird. -Original Message- From: ntsysadmin ntsysad...@rccs.org Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 21:58:47 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: Patch management software... I'm looking for affordable patch management software for several of my small business clients. Workstation numbers range from 4-80 PCs running XP, Vista, Windows7 and a few Macs. It's okay if I can't find anything to work with the Macs. I like the Secunia product but I didn't see an offering for users with very small number of workstations. What are people using? Are there any free options out there that are worthwhile? Thanks, Mike ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Patch management software...
I use both Shavlik and WSUS. Both places that I have managed to get Shavlik netChk Protect (%dayjob% and one %nightjob%) going I have found it useful to maintain WSUS for Windows-specific items. WSUS is very low maintenance, handling Java, Adobe, etc takes additional work. Not sure if it's the tool or the operator (me) not being proficient with NetChk Protect (err, VMWare vCenter Protect Essentials now that VMWare bought Shavlik) to be able to do away with WSUS, but there ya go. Shavlik is not c dirt cheap, but it is effective. Dave From: ntsysadmin [mailto:ntsysad...@rccs.org] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 1:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Patch management software... I'm looking for affordable patch management software for several of my small business clients. Workstation numbers range from 4-80 PCs running XP, Vista, Windows7 and a few Macs. It's okay if I can't find anything to work with the Macs. I like the Secunia product but I didn't see an offering for users with very small number of workstations. What are people using? Are there any free options out there that are worthwhile? Thanks, Mike ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Wireless bridge between buildings.
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 5:23 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: Properly done, any buried conduit should be easily accessible from the surface, so future upgrades would be a matter of opening covers and using the pull-strings left from the last time. Again, planning and expertise make all the difference here. P.S.: If you go this route, make sure any surface access boxes or manholes are accurately marked on all the plans and plots. The new building they just bought at work, it looks like a previous owner paved over all the manholes in the parking lot. I've got a 600 foot utility service conduit with a junction... somewhere. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
The Security Earthquake That Nobody Felt
* The Security Earthquake That Nobody Felt Wow, this is actually major security news. I found this on the blog from Coretrace, and they said: This week, McAfee, one of the two dominant forces in reactive, blacklist-based endpoint security, actively and unequivocally endorsed Application Whitelisting. Ironically, in hard coverage of Symantec's recent problems with pcAnywhere, the industry is actively recommending application whitelisting too. Here is the link: http://www.coretraceblogs.com/2012-01/security-earthquake-that-nobody-felt-mcafee-endorses-application-whitelisting/ So, what is the big news? It turns security on its head. Instead of keeping bad code out, with application whitelisting (also known as Application Control) you only allow known-good code to run. That's really a 180, and very, very interesting from a system admin perspective. I have done some research in this area and have written a whitepaper about whitelisting, and why as a system admin you should look into this for the near future. This is a new security layer for your 'defense-in-depth'. You will hear more from me about whitelisting this year: http://www.knowbe4.com/resources/the-endpoint-security-advantages-of-whitelisting-a-whitepaper-for-system-administrators/ Warm regards, Stu ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Patch management software...
For the small Windows installations you might take a look at Desktop Central by ManageEngine, I believe they still offer a free version for up to 25 workstations. Dennis From: ntsysadmin [mailto:ntsysad...@rccs.org] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 3:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Patch management software... I'm looking for affordable patch management software for several of my small business clients. Workstation numbers range from 4-80 PCs running XP, Vista, Windows7 and a few Macs. It's okay if I can't find anything to work with the Macs. I like the Secunia product but I didn't see an offering for users with very small number of workstations. What are people using? Are there any free options out there that are worthwhile? Thanks, Mike ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Wireless bridge between buildings.
Well, look on the bright side, you at least know you have a junction. On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 2:42 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 5:23 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: Properly done, any buried conduit should be easily accessible from the surface, so future upgrades would be a matter of opening covers and using the pull-strings left from the last time. Again, planning and expertise make all the difference here. P.S.: If you go this route, make sure any surface access boxes or manholes are accurately marked on all the plans and plots. The new building they just bought at work, it looks like a previous owner paved over all the manholes in the parking lot. I've got a 600 foot utility service conduit with a junction... somewhere. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: The Security Earthquake That Nobody Felt
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 5:46 PM, Stu Sjouwerman s...@sunbelt-software.com wrote: So, what is the big news? It turns security on its head. Instead of keeping bad code out, with application whitelisting (also known as Application Control) you only allow known-good code to run. That's really a 180, and very, very interesting from a system admin perspective. The way I see it, this is not new. Don't let untrusted code run. It's been a best practice for decades. In large organizations with poor security, this has historically been a challenge, since they have no control over what they run. These whitelisting tools help manage and correct for that situation. But if you have had strong software controls to begin with, it's kind of like... Duh. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: The Security Earthquake That Nobody Felt
Mcafee is sti in business? - Original Message - From: Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:s...@sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 02:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: The Security Earthquake That Nobody Felt * The Security Earthquake That Nobody Felt Wow, this is actually major security news. I found this on the blog from Coretrace, and they said: This week, McAfee, one of the two dominant forces in reactive, blacklist-based endpoint security, actively and unequivocally endorsed Application Whitelisting. Ironically, in hard coverage of Symantec's recent problems with pcAnywhere, the industry is actively recommending application whitelisting too. Here is the link: http://www.coretraceblogs.com/2012-01/security-earthquake-that-nobody-felt-mcafee-endorses-application-whitelisting/ So, what is the big news? It turns security on its head. Instead of keeping bad code out, with application whitelisting (also known as Application Control) you only allow known-good code to run. That's really a 180, and very, very interesting from a system admin perspective. I have done some research in this area and have written a whitepaper about whitelisting, and why as a system admin you should look into this for the near future. This is a new security layer for your 'defense-in-depth'. You will hear more from me about whitelisting this year: http://www.knowbe4.com/resources/the-endpoint-security-advantages-of-whitelisting-a-whitepaper-for-system-administrators/ Warm regards, Stu ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Barracuda Firewall NG
Watch out for the thing shutting down your Internet when it has passed X bytes. We are fighting that a $dayjob% at the moment. Jon On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Carol Fee c...@massbar.org wrote: Anyone using, and if so, which model, and how do you like it ? TIA ** ** *Carol Fee* Network Administrator Massachusetts Bar Association 20 West St. Boston, Ma 02110 617-338-0623 c...@massbar.org [image: 100 Logo_gold (no shadow-dark)] ** ** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadminimage003.jpg
Re: The Security Earthquake That Nobody Felt
Well, yes, actually, and they are part of Intel, and have been acquiring companies for themselves - for instance, Secure Computing a few years ago, for their Sidewinder firewalls (which are now McAfee Secure Enterprise Firewalls), among others. I still don't like their AV product, but they haven't yet ruined the firewall... Kurt On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 15:57, Mathew Shember mathew.shem...@synopsys.com wrote: Mcafee is sti in business? - Original Message - From: Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:s...@sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 02:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: The Security Earthquake That Nobody Felt * The Security Earthquake That Nobody Felt Wow, this is actually major security news. I found this on the blog from Coretrace, and they said: This week, McAfee, one of the two dominant forces in reactive, blacklist-based endpoint security, actively and unequivocally endorsed Application Whitelisting. Ironically, in hard coverage of Symantec's recent problems with pcAnywhere, the industry is actively recommending application whitelisting too. Here is the link: http://www.coretraceblogs.com/2012-01/security-earthquake-that-nobody-felt-mcafee-endorses-application-whitelisting/ So, what is the big news? It turns security on its head. Instead of keeping bad code out, with application whitelisting (also known as Application Control) you only allow known-good code to run. That's really a 180, and very, very interesting from a system admin perspective. I have done some research in this area and have written a whitepaper about whitelisting, and why as a system admin you should look into this for the near future. This is a new security layer for your 'defense-in-depth'. You will hear more from me about whitelisting this year: http://www.knowbe4.com/resources/the-endpoint-security-advantages-of-whitelisting-a-whitepaper-for-system-administrators/ Warm regards, Stu ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: The Security Earthquake That Nobody Felt
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 15:49, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 5:46 PM, Stu Sjouwerman s...@sunbelt-software.com wrote: So, what is the big news? It turns security on its head. Instead of keeping bad code out, with application whitelisting (also known as Application Control) you only allow known-good code to run. That's really a 180, and very, very interesting from a system admin perspective. The way I see it, this is not new. Don't let untrusted code run. It's been a best practice for decades. In large organizations with poor security, this has historically been a challenge, since they have no control over what they run. These whitelisting tools help manage and correct for that situation. But if you have had strong software controls to begin with, it's kind of like... Duh. Well, yes, the PC ruined the security of the mainframe/mini, and now the PDA/Smartphone/Tablet is ruining the security of the PC. And so it goes - but the cycle is getting tighter - there are are now whitelisting apps for the PDA/Smartphone/Tablet as well as the PC. I'm sure application whitelisting will come right along with the new brain implants that are right around the corner... Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Wireless bridge between buildings.
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 6:47 PM, Steven Peck sep...@gmail.com wrote: new building they just bought at work, it looks like a previous owner paved over all the manholes in the parking lot. I've got a 600 foot utility service conduit with a junction... somewhere. Well, look on the bright side, you at least know you have a junction. Not really. It could be the reason it won't hold pressure is that the conduit is cracked. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Training for Unix Support?
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 7:32 PM, Jon Harris jk.har...@gmail.com wrote: loading either OpenSUSE or Fedora on a Virtual PC No error codes I have found yet but for Fedora it will not get to the option to install but with OpenSUSE it will not find the virtual drive. Hmm, sounds like it's not seeing the (virtual) disk controller. That usually means it lacks a device driver, same as with a Windows install. The odd part is virtual machine implementations usually pick a really common controller to emulate. If you try again, see if you can find a *nix command prompt. For the installers, you can usually find one on another virtual console. Press CTRL+ALT+F1, or F2, or F3, etc., to switch virtual consoles. Once you're there you can play around with the system, to see what the installer sees. The command dmesg | more (don't type the quotes) will review the kernel debug messages, which are often very informative. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Patch management software...
It does manage MACs, not sure about patching though. ntsysadmin ntsysad...@rccs.org 1/30/2012 4:58 PM I’m looking for affordable patch management software for several of my small business clients. Workstation numbers range from 4-80 PCs running XP, Vista, Windows7 and a few Macs. It’s okay if I can’t find anything to work with the Macs. I like the Secunia product but I didn’t see an offering for users with very small number of workstations. What are people using? Are there any free options out there that are worthwhile? Thanks, Mike ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Patch management software...
+1 on the Kbox if it's affordable for your customers. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership for Strong Families From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 10:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Patch management software... Check out Dell's KBox systems. We use one here for about 1,000 PC and our servers. I think they recently released a smaller version for small offices such as yours. Patch management is one component, and it's very easy and hands off once you configure it. ntsysadmin ntsysad...@rccs.org 1/30/2012 4:58 PM I’m looking for affordable patch management software for several of my small business clients. Workstation numbers range from 4-80 PCs running XP, Vista, Windows7 and a few Macs. It’s okay if I can’t find anything to work with the Macs. I like the Secunia product but I didn’t see an offering for users with very small number of workstations. What are people using? Are there any free options out there that are worthwhile? Thanks, Mike ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Patch management software...
Check out the free version of our Retina CS Community Edition. It is good up to 128 systems for free. Includes full vulnerability management and patching including patching for some third party apps. http://www.eeye.com/products/retina/community http://go.eeye.com/LP=68 -Marc Signed, Marc Maiffret Founder/CTO eEye Digital Security WEB: http://www.eEye.com BLOG: http://blog.eeye.com TWITTER: http://twitter.com/marcmaiffret From: ntsysadmin [mailto:ntsysad...@rccs.org] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 1:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Patch management software... I'm looking for affordable patch management software for several of my small business clients. Workstation numbers range from 4-80 PCs running XP, Vista, Windows7 and a few Macs. It's okay if I can't find anything to work with the Macs. I like the Secunia product but I didn't see an offering for users with very small number of workstations. What are people using? Are there any free options out there that are worthwhile? Thanks, Mike ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Patch management software...
If you want cheap/free try ninite and wsus combined. Otherwise gfi languard is very inexpensive. Shavlik is is very good but might not fit your budget. Lumension is also decent but it is not cheap. Alex Eckelberry www.eckelberry.com (c) 727 – 644 – 8830 Sent from my iPhone (Please excuse the occasional typos) On Jan 30, 2012, at 5:38 PM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote: I use both Shavlik and WSUS. Both places that I have managed to get Shavlik netChk Protect (%dayjob% and one %nightjob%) going I have found it useful to maintain WSUS for Windows-specific items. WSUS is very low maintenance, handling Java, Adobe, etc takes additional work. Not sure if it’s the tool or the operator (me) not being proficient with NetChk Protect (err, VMWare vCenter Protect Essentials now that VMWare bought Shavlik) to be able to do away with WSUS, but there ya go. Shavlik is not c dirt cheap, but it is effective. Dave From: ntsysadmin [mailto:ntsysad...@rccs.org] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 1:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Patch management software... I’m looking for affordable patch management software for several of my small business clients. Workstation numbers range from 4-80 PCs running XP, Vista, Windows7 and a few Macs. It’s okay if I can’t find anything to work with the Macs. I like the Secunia product but I didn’t see an offering for users with very small number of workstations. What are people using? Are there any free options out there that are worthwhile? Thanks, Mike ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Patch management software...
If it includes adobe and flash patching that is a sweet deal. Apart from windows those are the two programs that need vigilant patching. Alex Eckelberry www.eckelberry.com (c) 727 – 644 – 8830 Sent from my iPhone (Please excuse the occasional typos) On Jan 30, 2012, at 11:26 PM, Marc Maiffret mmaiff...@eeye.com wrote: Check out the free version of our Retina CS Community Edition. It is good up to 128 systems for free. Includes full vulnerability management and patching including patching for some third party apps. http://www.eeye.com/products/retina/community http://go.eeye.com/LP=68 -Marc Signed, Marc Maiffret Founder/CTO eEye Digital Security WEB: http://www.eEye.com BLOG: http://blog.eeye.com TWITTER: http://twitter.com/marcmaiffret From: ntsysadmin [mailto:ntsysad...@rccs.org] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 1:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Patch management software... I’m looking for affordable patch management software for several of my small business clients. Workstation numbers range from 4-80 PCs running XP, Vista, Windows7 and a few Macs. It’s okay if I can’t find anything to work with the Macs. I like the Secunia product but I didn’t see an offering for users with very small number of workstations. What are people using? Are there any free options out there that are worthwhile? Thanks, Mike ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Patch management software...
Indeed it does Adobe Reader, Flash, Shockwave, Acrobat and also Mozilla Firefox plus Microsoft patches for free in the community version. The paid commercial version does a handful of other applications as well. http://www.eeye.com/products/retina/patch-management -Marc -Original Message- From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:al...@eckelberry.com] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 8:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Cc: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Patch management software... If it includes adobe and flash patching that is a sweet deal. Apart from windows those are the two programs that need vigilant patching. Alex Eckelberry www.eckelberry.com (c) 727 – 644 – 8830 Sent from my iPhone (Please excuse the occasional typos) On Jan 30, 2012, at 11:26 PM, Marc Maiffret mmaiff...@eeye.com wrote: Check out the free version of our Retina CS Community Edition. It is good up to 128 systems for free. Includes full vulnerability management and patching including patching for some third party apps. http://www.eeye.com/products/retina/community http://go.eeye.com/LP=68 -Marc Signed, Marc Maiffret Founder/CTO eEye Digital Security WEB: http://www.eEye.com BLOG: http://blog.eeye.com TWITTER: http://twitter.com/marcmaiffret From: ntsysadmin [mailto:ntsysad...@rccs.org] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 1:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Patch management software... I’m looking for affordable patch management software for several of my small business clients. Workstation numbers range from 4-80 PCs running XP, Vista, Windows7 and a few Macs. It’s okay if I can’t find anything to work with the Macs. I like the Secunia product but I didn’t see an offering for users with very small number of workstations. What are people using? Are there any free options out there that are worthwhile? Thanks, Mike ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
