Re: EMC limitations?
So EMC creates an artificial limitation in order to expand/enhance their revenue stream by seeming to seem more cost competitive with other vendors. Then they are vague about the limitation. That's a great approach for an entry level product. I can see their slogan "EMC...be sure to check the fine print!." I'm sure Kurt will be thinking all kinds of good thoughts about EMC on the next SAN project. ---------- Bob Hartung Dir of I.T. Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Wed, 08 Feb 2012 00:36:14 -0600 Subject: Re: EMC limitations? No offense taken, and none meant on my part either - just some disagreement spiced a bit too heavily with the frustration. I do understand that caveat emptor applies, and that it would have been better if we'd done more research, but that bit of misdirection on their part was just a bit rich... Kurt On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 22:30, Sean Martin wrote: > I certainly didn't mean to offend you nor do I blame you for being > frustrated. It's just that companies aren't going to list their lack of > functionality for all to see. What you're running into is not necessarily an > issue, but rather a limitation. Now a good reseller would have done a better > job of trying to identify your requirements and then used those to pitch a > higher-end solution (if justified). > > I'm assuming Lyris won't allow attachments so I'm forwarding the template to > those that expressed interest individually. > > - Sean > On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 9:08 PM, Kurt Buff wrote: >> >> On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 18:10, Sean Martin wrote: >> > Well this is one of those scenarios where I think the customer needs >> > to take responsibility. A good practice to get into is the creation of >> > technical >> > requirement matrices and business requirement matrices. It helps you put >> > on paper what capabilities you need in a solution and gives the vendor a >> > uniform method of informing you of the strengths and weaknesses of their >> > platform. We typically tier our requirements into 3 categories that >> > allows us to >> > weigh the importance of features. For example, a tier 1 requirement >> > might be >> > that the solution support fiber channel or iscsi where a tier 2 or 3 >> > requirement >> > might be support for sub-lun tiering or a 64bit OS to leverage larger >> > cache. >> >> This is EMC for crying out loud - arguably the leader in the field, >> and it's a software issue. We're not talking about going with lesser >> hardware, which can steeply influence the costs. As well, I was given >> to understand that this is a relatively new line for them. They have >> the software in hand, and my 4 year old Lefthands don't have this >> limitation. I do place this 99% on them (split in some fashion between >> EMC and the reseller). I'll hand the 1% to my manager, who had used >> them before, doesn't like the Lefthands, and trusted the reseller rep >> he's worked with at his prior company. I was given no say in the >> matter - I suggested another LH unit. >> >> > It may be too little too late but I'd be happy to share the template we >> > used for our last storage purchase. >> >> That might actually be a nice thing - we might not technically outgrow >> the unit, as it can stack a huge number of disks, but I don't see us >> doing a whole lot more with it, given that limitation, and the other >> that raised my dander. >> >> > - Sean >> > >> > On Feb 7, 2012, at 4:29 PM, Kurt Buff wrote: >> > >> >> If true, it would have been nice of them to disclose that before >> >> purchase, methinks... >> >> >> >> Kurt >> >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 17:04, Sean Martin >> >> wrote: >> >>> I believe the next versions of VNX (5700, 7500, etc) support SCSI 3 >> >>> protocol which would not have that limitation. I believe this was a >> >>> limitation that was purposely introduced into the VNXe because EMC is >> >>> marketing it as an entry level "all-in-one" storage solution. They >> >>> need reasons for customers to scale up to the more expens
Re: Wireless bridge between buildings.
We use Solecktek wireless bridges here and they are very reliable. The bridges we have can run at a max of 100 Mbps but they have units that can run at 1 GB. http://www.solectek.com/products-sweb.php -- Bob Hartung Dir of I.T. Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Reimer, Mark [mailto:mark.rei...@prairie.edu] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 15:31:08 -0600 Subject: Wireless bridge between buildings. Hi folks, Have about 10 building on a campus. They are currently connected with fiber from a main hub. The fibers run through tunnels. The buildings all contain clients (and VOIP phones), with no servers. All the servers are in main building, and all traffic comes through here. The tunnels are old, and there is talk of collapsing them. I’m thinking of possibly putting up line-of-sight antennas on each building as a way of connecting. Distances would be < 300 meters. My question is. Is there wireless fast enough for this? Right now the fiber is running 1 GBs (62.5 Um). I would need to have communications be at least this fast, if not faster. If this is not feasible/possible, there is a possibility of running pipe in the current tunnels, and pulling new fiber (50 Um) (which I’m thinking of doing anyway, to get faster speed), then these pipes will be buried when the tunnels are collapsed. Upgrading this in the future would be tedious. Other ideas are welcome. TIA Mark Reimer, A+, MCSA Servers & Networking Admin Prairie Bible Institute Box 4000 Three Hills, AB T0M-2N0 Canada Tel: 403-443-5511, Ext. 3476 Fax: 403-443-5540 Email: mark.rei...@prairie.edu www.prairie.edu ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Remote software
Hmm... I see that. Well, in that case, here's a link to the VNC Mgr's features page. http://www.s-code.com/products/vncmanager/features.aspx Hopefully the link doesn't get stripped out as well. ---------- Bob Hartung Dir of I.T. Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 11:32:13 -0600 Subject: Re: Remote software No, the image doesn't :) ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Bob Hartung wrote: I've been using SmartCode VNC Mgr as an admin console and UltraVNC as the remote control software. It also supports realVNC, TightVNC, TeamViewer, RDP, and Team Viewer. I monitor/remote control about 120 PCs and servers in 3 locations. In addition to monitoring and remoting duties, the console supports many other management functions. The screen capture below shows those functions. ------ Bob Hartung Dir of I.T. Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 09:15:06 -0600 Subject: Remote software What's everyone's favorite tool for remote access to your users' workstations. I have a new satellite office that does not have an IT person on staff. I'm looking for something along the lines of VNC or Dameware where the remote agent software is running all the time. I also need to be able to see all the active agents on an admin console and begin a remote session from there. Thanks, RS ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Phone / data plan / consultants
I've got a Motorola Droid Razr and I've played around with VNC for remoting into PCs and with the screen resolutions most people run, it's a pretty tedious experience. However, there is an external keyboard/monitor unit for the Razr which is about the size of a 13" laptop but much lighter. They were selling it for about $200. I guess it really depends on how much remoting you do and whether the Razr would do everything you'd need. Cheaper than a laptop and no additional data costs. ------ Bob Hartung Dir of I.T. Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 10:27:44 -0600 Subject: Phone / data plan / consultants So….my old LG NV phone (read: not smartphone). As a SMB consultant I have been slow to adopt a smartphone/tablet as I have few enough clients that it’s been a non-issue. With my phone now acting up (I’ve had it over two years and am eligible for a discounted upgrade from Verizon) it’s time for a re-evaluation. I use LogMeIn as my remote access solution, and it would be handy to have access to it whenever I have cell service. The question is, any reason NOT to get 4G for the simple convenience of a mobile hotspot? Is the Android OS enough of a security concern to justify going with the evil empire Apple iOS? Anyone else recently go through this? David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: File rights issue
Thanks, I knew it had to be something simple. -- Bob Hartung Dir of I.T. Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 10:28:25 -0600 Subject: RE: File rights issue Nuke the Creator Owner permissions on the folder. You will often find Creator Owner with Full Control on Subfolders and Files Only under special permissions. So yes as the owner they have full control. From: Bob Hartung [mailto:bhart...@wiscoind.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 11:15 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: File rights issue We have a group of product engineers who create drawings in PDF format. Once their designs are certified, they send their PDF files to an individual who places the files in a directory structure on a Windows 2003 server for common use. The directory structure is setup so only a couple of users can make changes to it; everyone else should be read-only. The engineers are not granted rights to make changes to files in this directory structure. However, one of the engineers contacted me and said he was checking one of his PDF files in the directory structure and had inadvertently deleted it. I was surprised and a little skeptical but the file was gone. I restored it from backup and asked him to try to delete it again. Sure enough, he could delete it. After a little testing, I established that even though the directories prevented him from deleting most files, he could delete any file that listed him as the owner. Is there a way to change the rights in folders that would prevent an owner from deleting his own files or do I have to explicitly take ownership on these files in order to protect them? -- Bob Hartung Dir of I.T. Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
File rights issue
We have a group of product engineers who create drawings in PDF format. Once their designs are certified, they send their PDF files to an individual who places the files in a directory structure on a Windows 2003 server for common use. The directory structure is setup so only a couple of users can make changes to it; everyone else should be read-only. The engineers are not granted rights to make changes to files in this directory structure. However, one of the engineers contacted me and said he was checking one of his PDF files in the directory structure and had inadvertently deleted it. I was surprised and a little skeptical but the file was gone. I restored it from backup and asked him to try to delete it again. Sure enough, he could delete it. After a little testing, I established that even though the directories prevented him from deleting most files, he could delete any file that listed him as the owner. Is there a way to change the rights in folders that would prevent an owner from deleting his own files or do I have to explicitly take ownership on these files in order to protect them? -- Bob Hartung Dir of I.T. Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: PC that can't Google
Interesting. Originally I searched for "hosts" on the C Drive and nothing showed up. Now I've navigated to "windows\system32\drivers\etc, there's the "hosts" file. I can open it and it looks like the default hosts files with one exception, the last line is ::1 I tried to edit this out but was denied even though I'm logged in as the local administrator. I went to the command prompt and ran attrib on it and it show as an SHR. Checking another PC and normally this file doesn't have these attributes. I tried to change the attributes but still no luck. Finally, I tried renaming the hosts files to hosts.junk and that worked. Go figure. Then I copied a default hosts file from a different PC and that enabled Google.com. I don't have a clue as to why this fixed the problem. -- Bob Hartung Dir of I.T. Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 09:41:38 -0600 Subject: RE: PC that can't Google Odd, even by default there’s one that has 127.0.0.1 in it. Show hidden and system files and look in hidden files and folders and look again, it should exist. From: Bob Hartung [mailto:bhart...@wiscoind.com] Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 7:04 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: PC that can't Google I've searched the C drive for any hosts file and couldn't find one. -- Bob Hartung Dir of I.T. Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 08:57:32 -0600 Subject: RE: PC that can't Google HOSTS file? From: Bob Hartung [mailto:bhart...@wiscoind.com] Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 6:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: PC that can't Google One of our VPs brought in his company-supplied home PC (Dell Optiplex WinXP Pro SP3). Said it was slow and something had changed his home page and he couldn't change it back. He also said he couldn't access Google. His home page had been taken over by My Web Search. I checked the Vipre quarantine and parts of My Web Search had been removed so I could uninstall it. I ran a Vipre deep scan and installed the latest version of Malwarebytes and ran its deep scan as well. It detected a number of registry My Web Search entries. Everything seemed to be running smoothly and much quicker after the scanning and deleting. My Web Search was gone but the Google problem persists. Using either Firefox or IE, you can access any website with out problem accept Google.com. At the command prompt, you can ping or tracert any website and it will resolve the name to it's IP address, accept Google.com. Google.com just times out with the error that the host name could not be found. I've checked there is no lmhost file. I've also ran ipconfig The PC is attached to our work network and through DHCP has picked up our standard DNS server to use. Everyone else can get to Google.com. What else could be interfering on just the Google.com name? -- Bob Hartung Dir of I.T. Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listma
RE: PC that can't Google
Interesting. Originally I searched for "hosts" on the C Drive and nothing showed up. Now I've navigated to "windows\system32\drivers\etc, there's the "hosts" file. I can open it and it looks like the default hosts files with one exception, the last line is ::1 I tried to edit this out but was denied even though I'm logged in as the local administrator. I went to the command prompt and ran attrib on it and it show as an SHR. Checking another PC and normally this file doesn't have these attributes. I tried to change the attributes but still no luck. Finally, I tried renaming the hosts files to hosts.junk and that worked. Go figure. Then I copied a default hosts file from a different PC and that enabled Google.com. I don't have a clue as to why this fixed the problem. -- Bob Hartung Dir of I.T. Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 09:41:38 -0600 Subject: RE: PC that can't Google Odd, even by default there’s one that has 127.0.0.1 in it. Show hidden and system files and look in hidden files and folders and look again, it should exist. From: Bob Hartung [mailto:bhart...@wiscoind.com] Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 7:04 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: PC that can't Google I've searched the C drive for any hosts file and couldn't find one. -- Bob Hartung Dir of I.T. Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 08:57:32 -0600 Subject: RE: PC that can't Google HOSTS file? From: Bob Hartung [mailto:bhart...@wiscoind.com] Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 6:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: PC that can't Google One of our VPs brought in his company-supplied home PC (Dell Optiplex WinXP Pro SP3). Said it was slow and something had changed his home page and he couldn't change it back. He also said he couldn't access Google. His home page had been taken over by My Web Search. I checked the Vipre quarantine and parts of My Web Search had been removed so I could uninstall it. I ran a Vipre deep scan and installed the latest version of Malwarebytes and ran its deep scan as well. It detected a number of registry My Web Search entries. Everything seemed to be running smoothly and much quicker after the scanning and deleting. My Web Search was gone but the Google problem persists. Using either Firefox or IE, you can access any website with out problem accept Google.com. At the command prompt, you can ping or tracert any website and it will resolve the name to it's IP address, accept Google.com. Google.com just times out with the error that the host name could not be found. I've checked there is no lmhost file. I've also ran ipconfig The PC is attached to our work network and through DHCP has picked up our standard DNS server to use. Everyone else can get to Google.com. What else could be interfering on just the Google.com name? -- Bob Hartung Dir of I.T. Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyr
Re: PC that can't Google
I initially tried with the user's profile and then switched to the local admin and still had the same problem. ------ Bob Hartung Dir of I.T. Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Eric Wittersheim [mailto:eric.wittersh...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 09:03:40 -0600 Subject: Re: PC that can't Google Try a different user profile. On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 8:57 AM, David Lum wrote: HOSTS file? From: Bob Hartung [mailto:bhart...@wiscoind.com] Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 6:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: PC that can't Google One of our VPs brought in his company-supplied home PC (Dell Optiplex WinXP Pro SP3). Said it was slow and something had changed his home page and he couldn't change it back. He also said he couldn't access Google. His home page had been taken over by My Web Search. I checked the Vipre quarantine and parts of My Web Search had been removed so I could uninstall it. I ran a Vipre deep scan and installed the latest version of Malwarebytes and ran its deep scan as well. It detected a number of registry My Web Search entries. Everything seemed to be running smoothly and much quicker after the scanning and deleting. My Web Search was gone but the Google problem persists. Using either Firefox or IE, you can access any website with out problem accept Google.com. At the command prompt, you can ping or tracert any website and it will resolve the name to it's IP address, accept Google.com. Google.com just times out with the error that the host name could not be found. I've checked there is no lmhost file. I've also ran ipconfig The PC is attached to our work network and through DHCP has picked up our standard DNS server to use. Everyone else can get to Google.com. What else could be interfering on just the Google.com name? -- Bob Hartung Dir of I.T. Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: PC that can't Google
I've searched the C drive for any hosts file and couldn't find one. ------ Bob Hartung Dir of I.T. Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 08:57:32 -0600 Subject: RE: PC that can't Google HOSTS file? From: Bob Hartung [mailto:bhart...@wiscoind.com] Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 6:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: PC that can't Google One of our VPs brought in his company-supplied home PC (Dell Optiplex WinXP Pro SP3). Said it was slow and something had changed his home page and he couldn't change it back. He also said he couldn't access Google. His home page had been taken over by My Web Search. I checked the Vipre quarantine and parts of My Web Search had been removed so I could uninstall it. I ran a Vipre deep scan and installed the latest version of Malwarebytes and ran its deep scan as well. It detected a number of registry My Web Search entries. Everything seemed to be running smoothly and much quicker after the scanning and deleting. My Web Search was gone but the Google problem persists. Using either Firefox or IE, you can access any website with out problem accept Google.com. At the command prompt, you can ping or tracert any website and it will resolve the name to it's IP address, accept Google.com. Google.com just times out with the error that the host name could not be found. I've checked there is no lmhost file. I've also ran ipconfig The PC is attached to our work network and through DHCP has picked up our standard DNS server to use. Everyone else can get to Google.com. What else could be interfering on just the Google.com name? -- Bob Hartung Dir of I.T. Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
PC that can't Google
One of our VPs brought in his company-supplied home PC (Dell Optiplex WinXP Pro SP3). Said it was slow and something had changed his home page and he couldn't change it back. He also said he couldn't access Google. His home page had been taken over by My Web Search. I checked the Vipre quarantine and parts of My Web Search had been removed so I could uninstall it. I ran a Vipre deep scan and installed the latest version of Malwarebytes and ran its deep scan as well. It detected a number of registry My Web Search entries. Everything seemed to be running smoothly and much quicker after the scanning and deleting. My Web Search was gone but the Google problem persists. Using either Firefox or IE, you can access any website with out problem accept Google.com. At the command prompt, you can ping or tracert any website and it will resolve the name to it's IP address, accept Google.com. Google.com just times out with the error that the host name could not be found. I've checked there is no lmhost file. I've also ran ipconfig The PC is attached to our work network and through DHCP has picked up our standard DNS server to use. Everyone else can get to Google.com. What else could be interfering on just the Google.com name? ------ Bob Hartung Dir of I.T. Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Anyone using Dell switches
I agree that there's much that can be done dealing with the vendor to fix this specific problem but I'd still be interested in hearing opinions on Dell switches. ------ Bob Hartung Dir of I.T. Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 19:21:41 -0600 Subject: Re: Anyone using Dell switches On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Tom Miller wrote: > But yes, I told the reseller of the error, and it's taking forever. I'll > take blame, but I'm not cool with a simple return taking four month. I > can't tell if this an HP or reseller issue, though. It's definitely a reseller issue. It may also be an HP issue, but again, that's none of your business. The whole point of the reseller relationship is they deal with the suppliers, you deal with just them. If they're not doing that, the reseller is just pocketing a percentage for doing nothing. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Qnap - Connecting to 2nd ethernet port
We've got a Qnap TS-659 Pro II at a remote facility. It's setup as a NAS with AD integration and it's working fine. One thing we use it for is for Disk-to-Disk-Tape backups as well as PC image storage. This normally happens after hours so the high network utilization isn't an issue but if we need to do these things during regular hours, it is. Is it possible to connect directly from a 2nd ethernet port on a server to the 2nd ethernet port on the TS-659 to isolate the LAN from some of the backup/image traffic? I know I could setup an iSCSI connection but then what's stored there is only accessible through the iSCSI connected server/pc. Other systems could only access the data through the server as a share. ------ Bob Hartung Dir of I.T. Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Bringing a Win2K3 server back online
In general, I fully agree with you. I'd rather have retired this server and built a new replacement. Unfortunately, with this location being down for a week already and the missing data access causing a business impact, returning the server quickly became a big part of the decision. It's always fun to have your boss show up at the door and say "Well?..." Even though data is on a different partition, the process of installing the operating system from scratch and then recreating shares, printers and re-installing Arcserve, Vipre, Dell Server Admin and other utilites would have added more days to downtime. In the end, with the testing we've done, we felt it was an acceptably low risk that the problem would recur. Only time will tell now. Thanks. ------ Bob Hartung Dir of I.T. Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 17:19:55 -0600 Subject: RE: Bringing a Win2K3 server back online IMO it’s an awful alternative to a rebuild. You have absolutely no idea what caused the original problem, and absolutely no idea what’s made it go away. Chances of it coming back are likely pretty high. Is the file server data not on a separate partition? Shouldn’t even need to restore anything from backup assuming it is. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com w – 312.625.1438 | c – 312.731.3132 From: Bob Hartung [mailto:bhart...@wiscoind.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 11:08 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Bringing a Win2K3 server back online I discussed this problem with an MS tech from a reseller we work with and he agreed with your opinion about being able to plug it in. The only thing I did with the server prior to hooking it up to our network was assign it an 172.16.x.x IP address for this network and disabled the DNS and DHCP services. Everything came up fine and I was able to re-apply all the Windows Updates that had been overwritten by the Repair Install. Once that was done, everything seemed to be working properly. The tech and I checked the DNS both on our primary domain controller as well as the restored server and they were properly synchronized and showing the new IP address for the restored server. The last thing to do is disconnect the server from our network, re-assign its original 172.17.x.x IP address, re-enable DNS and DHCP and then ship it off. I know most people would probably restore from a recent backup but this wasn't a bad alternative either. I guess it depends on the circumstances but it's a viable alternative. -- Bob Hartung Dir of I.T. Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 11:11:58 -0600 Subject: RE: Bringing a Win2K3 server back online Should be able to just plug it in. You’ll need to re-apply Windows Updates as well. Aside from the fact that it should work, personally I think you need to wipe this box and reload. All you’ve done is taken an unknown problem and applied an unknown bandaid to it. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com w – 312.625.1438 | c – 312.731.3132 From: Bob Hartung [mailto:bhart...@wiscoind.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 10:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Bringing a Win2K3 server back online I'm still working on this server with no network cable plugged in. I tried firing up Management Console to see what was there. Got an error message that it couldn't load. After the hair on the back of my neck relaxed, I realized the Repair Install was done with SP1 media. After apply SP2, I could view the Active Directory stuff as usual. Everything looks as it should in there. I have set both DHCP Server and DNS Server services to manual. Under these circumstances, would an Active Directory restore be necessary? By the time this server gets back to its home, about 2 weeks will have gone by since it synced up. -- Bob Hartung Dir of I.T. Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent:
RE: Bringing a Win2K3 server back online
Both "DCDIAG" and "repadmin /syncall /APed" commands came back clean on both the repaired server as well as our main DC. Thanks. ---------- Bob Hartung Dir of I.T. Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 16:50:02 -0600 Subject: RE: Bringing a Win2K3 server back online If DCDIAG isn’t complaining and REPLMON shows good, then congrats! From: Bob Hartung [mailto:bhart...@wiscoind.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 9:08 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Bringing a Win2K3 server back online I discussed this problem with an MS tech from a reseller we work with and he agreed with your opinion about being able to plug it in. The only thing I did with the server prior to hooking it up to our network was assign it an 172.16.x.x IP address for this network and disabled the DNS and DHCP services. Everything came up fine and I was able to re-apply all the Windows Updates that had been overwritten by the Repair Install. Once that was done, everything seemed to be working properly. The tech and I checked the DNS both on our primary domain controller as well as the restored server and they were properly synchronized and showing the new IP address for the restored server. The last thing to do is disconnect the server from our network, re-assign its original 172.17.x.x IP address, re-enable DNS and DHCP and then ship it off. I know most people would probably restore from a recent backup but this wasn't a bad alternative either. I guess it depends on the circumstances but it's a viable alternative. -- Bob Hartung Dir of I.T. Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 11:11:58 -0600 Subject: RE: Bringing a Win2K3 server back online Should be able to just plug it in. You’ll need to re-apply Windows Updates as well. Aside from the fact that it should work, personally I think you need to wipe this box and reload. All you’ve done is taken an unknown problem and applied an unknown bandaid to it. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com w – 312.625.1438 | c – 312.731.3132 From: Bob Hartung [mailto:bhart...@wiscoind.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 10:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Bringing a Win2K3 server back online I'm still working on this server with no network cable plugged in. I tried firing up Management Console to see what was there. Got an error message that it couldn't load. After the hair on the back of my neck relaxed, I realized the Repair Install was done with SP1 media. After apply SP2, I could view the Active Directory stuff as usual. Everything looks as it should in there. I have set both DHCP Server and DNS Server services to manual. Under these circumstances, would an Active Directory restore be necessary? By the time this server gets back to its home, about 2 weeks will have gone by since it synced up. -- Bob Hartung Dir of I.T. Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 09:23:41 -0600 Subject: Re: Bringing a Win2K3 server back online Yes, he did. Missed that. Twice. :) In which case, restoring and just putting it back out there is not a good idea. You want to perform a normal restore, and let the DC sync back up via replication http://www.petri.co.il/restore-windows-server-2003-active-directory.htm Don't perform an authoritative restore. (Or, just DCPROMO it twice and rebuild, but that's more timely for no good reason) ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 9:59 AM, wrote: But he said it is a domain controller... "Andrew S. Baker" 11/22/2011 08:57 AM Please respond to "NT System Admin Issues" To "NT System Admin Issues" Press this button if the "To" is a fax number. Enter in the fax number like 123-456-7890. cc Subject Re: Bringing a Win2K3 server back online It's just a member server. You should have no issues with bringing it back online. Just be sure to rejoin the domain. -ASB: http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker Sent fro
RE: Bringing a Win2K3 server back online
I discussed this problem with an MS tech from a reseller we work with and he agreed with your opinion about being able to plug it in. The only thing I did with the server prior to hooking it up to our network was assign it an 172.16.x.x IP address for this network and disabled the DNS and DHCP services. Everything came up fine and I was able to re-apply all the Windows Updates that had been overwritten by the Repair Install. Once that was done, everything seemed to be working properly. The tech and I checked the DNS both on our primary domain controller as well as the restored server and they were properly synchronized and showing the new IP address for the restored server. The last thing to do is disconnect the server from our network, re-assign its original 172.17.x.x IP address, re-enable DNS and DHCP and then ship it off. I know most people would probably restore from a recent backup but this wasn't a bad alternative either. I guess it depends on the circumstances but it's a viable alternative. ------ Bob Hartung Dir of I.T. Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 11:11:58 -0600 Subject: RE: Bringing a Win2K3 server back online Should be able to just plug it in. You’ll need to re-apply Windows Updates as well. Aside from the fact that it should work, personally I think you need to wipe this box and reload. All you’ve done is taken an unknown problem and applied an unknown bandaid to it. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com w – 312.625.1438 | c – 312.731.3132 From: Bob Hartung [mailto:bhart...@wiscoind.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 10:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Bringing a Win2K3 server back online I'm still working on this server with no network cable plugged in. I tried firing up Management Console to see what was there. Got an error message that it couldn't load. After the hair on the back of my neck relaxed, I realized the Repair Install was done with SP1 media. After apply SP2, I could view the Active Directory stuff as usual. Everything looks as it should in there. I have set both DHCP Server and DNS Server services to manual. Under these circumstances, would an Active Directory restore be necessary? By the time this server gets back to its home, about 2 weeks will have gone by since it synced up. ---------- Bob Hartung Dir of I.T. Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 09:23:41 -0600 Subject: Re: Bringing a Win2K3 server back online Yes, he did. Missed that. Twice. :) In which case, restoring and just putting it back out there is not a good idea. You want to perform a normal restore, and let the DC sync back up via replication http://www.petri.co.il/restore-windows-server-2003-active-directory.htm Don't perform an authoritative restore. (Or, just DCPROMO it twice and rebuild, but that's more timely for no good reason) ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 9:59 AM, wrote: But he said it is a domain controller... "Andrew S. Baker" 11/22/2011 08:57 AM Please respond to "NT System Admin Issues" To "NT System Admin Issues" Press this button if the "To" is a fax number. Enter in the fax number like 123-456-7890. cc Subject Re: Bringing a Win2K3 server back online It's just a member server. You should have no issues with bringing it back online. Just be sure to rejoin the domain. -ASB: http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker Sent from my Motorola Droid On Nov 22, 2011 9:32 AM, "Bob Hartung"wrote: We had a file server at a remote location suffer corruption from a software install gone bad. The server would appear to be booting normally, making it to the Windows 2003 splash screen with the progress indicator. Unfortunately, the screen would then go black and the system would reboot. The same thing would happen trying to boot in Saf
Re: Ping testing tool
This one works pretty good. Can ping multiple hosts and has a nice interface. http://www.nessoft.com/multiping/ -- Bob Hartung Dir of I.T. Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 11:21:45 -0600 Subject: Ping testing tool Anyone have a favorite free ping test tool? I am looking for pinging a few hosts every 15 seconds and give me an up/down as well as response and average over the last xx period of time. No alerting necessary. David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Bringing a Win2K3 server back online
I'm still working on this server with no network cable plugged in. I tried firing up Management Console to see what was there. Got an error message that it couldn't load. After the hair on the back of my neck relaxed, I realized the Repair Install was done with SP1 media. After apply SP2, I could view the Active Directory stuff as usual. Everything looks as it should in there. I have set both DHCP Server and DNS Server services to manual. Under these circumstances, would an Active Directory restore be necessary? By the time this server gets back to its home, about 2 weeks will have gone by since it synced up. ------ Bob Hartung Dir of I.T. Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 09:23:41 -0600 Subject: Re: Bringing a Win2K3 server back online Yes, he did. Missed that. Twice. :) In which case, restoring and just putting it back out there is not a good idea. You want to perform a normal restore, and let the DC sync back up via replication http://www.petri.co.il/restore-windows-server-2003-active-directory.htm Don't perform an authoritative restore. (Or, just DCPROMO it twice and rebuild, but that's more timely for no good reason) ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 9:59 AM, wrote: But he said it is a domain controller... "Andrew S. Baker" 11/22/2011 08:57 AM Please respond to "NT System Admin Issues" To "NT System Admin Issues" Press this button if the "To" is a fax number. Enter in the fax number like 123-456-7890. cc Subject Re: Bringing a Win2K3 server back online It's just a member server. You should have no issues with bringing it back online. Just be sure to rejoin the domain. -ASB: http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker Sent from my Motorola Droid On Nov 22, 2011 9:32 AM, "Bob Hartung" wrote: We had a file server at a remote location suffer corruption from a software install gone bad. The server would appear to be booting normally, making it to the Windows 2003 splash screen with the progress indicator. Unfortunately, the screen would then go black and the system would reboot. The same thing would happen trying to boot in Safe Mode and Last Known Good Configuration. This server is the only server at this remote location and acts as a file server, DHCP server and domain controller. This server and PCs at this location are in their own subnet (172.17.x.x) but is a member of our single AD domain. The subnet at my location is 172.16.x.x. Since this location doesn't have an IT person on staff, it was decided they'd ship to server back to me so I could restore it from a tape backup. When I received the server, I decided I'd start by trying a Repair Install. It couldn't hurt since I was eventually planning on a restore from tape anyway. At this point, the server has been offline for about a week. The Repair Install actually seems to have worked. The system came up with its normal desktop background but then stopped before loading the desktop icons with a requirement to activate the operating system. I did that and the desktop came up. I have not hooked the server up to the network here yet. After all that, here's my question. Will I cause a lot of AD problems if I assign this server a 172.16.x.x IP address and bring it up and let it sync up with our domain? I want to make sure it's functioning properly. Also, I've never done a Repair Install before. Does a Repair Install change things to a system that need to be manually reconfigured? Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks. -- Bob Hartung Dir of I.T. Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums
Bringing a Win2K3 server back online
We had a file server at a remote location suffer corruption from a software install gone bad. The server would appear to be booting normally, making it to the Windows 2003 splash screen with the progress indicator. Unfortunately, the screen would then go black and the system would reboot. The same thing would happen trying to boot in Safe Mode and Last Known Good Configuration. This server is the only server at this remote location and acts as a file server, DHCP server and domain controller. This server and PCs at this location are in their own subnet (172.17.x.x) but is a member of our single AD domain. The subnet at my location is 172.16.x.x. Since this location doesn't have an IT person on staff, it was decided they'd ship to server back to me so I could restore it from a tape backup. When I received the server, I decided I'd start by trying a Repair Install. It couldn't hurt since I was eventually planning on a restore from tape anyway. At this point, the server has been offline for about a week. The Repair Install actually seems to have worked. The system came up with its normal desktop background but then stopped before loading the desktop icons with a requirement to activate the operating system. I did that and the desktop came up. I have not hooked the server up to the network here yet. After all that, here's my question. Will I cause a lot of AD problems if I assign this server a 172.16.x.x IP address and bring it up and let it sync up with our domain? I want to make sure it's functioning properly. Also, I've never done a Repair Install before. Does a Repair Install change things to a system that need to be manually reconfigured? Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks. -- Bob Hartung Dir of I.T. Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Backup Software
Anyone have experience with AppAssure? -- Bob Hartung Dir of I.T. Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Bob Hartung [mailto:bhart...@wiscoind.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 11:09:33 -0600 Subject: Backup Software I've been researching backup software and I'd like to go with a disk-to-disk solution with offsite replication for disaster recovery. We currently are doing disk-to-disk-to-tape and it's taking too long. Plus I'm tired of people telling me they forgot to put the next tape in. I'd appreciate any real-world recommendations on what's good or warnings on what's not so good. Thanks. -- Bob Hartung Dir of I.T. Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Backup Software
Thanks. These are on my list to check out. -- Bob Hartung Dir of I.T. Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 13:50:52 -0600 Subject: RE: Backup Software Thanks Bob. I would suggest look at Commvault. I say that simple because we used to use ArcServe (admittedly we are talking some time back) and switched to it and I've never looked back. They do standard licensing and they also do a capacity license where you license the amount of data you want to backup (frontend) and you can use any mix of their agents to do it. The dedupe works really well and is source side so you really cut down on the amount of data going over the pipe to your HQ. They also do some rather funky synthetic full backups where you essentially do an initial "proper" full backup, and from that point onwards you only ever run incremental backups. The downside is that I think you're going to be pushing it at that budget, but end of year/quarter and the likes means you may be able do something - I would certainly be asking the question of a reseller. The bottom line is that dedupe and all the stuff to take away the problems you're having isn't cheap. Other vendors I'd look at would be HP Data Protector, DPM (no dedupe but seems to fit very well in an MS shop), and if I were going out today looking at backup software, I'd be really tempted to find out something about Unitrends - they have some interesting looking pricing models. _ From: Bob Hartung [bhart...@wiscoind.com] Sent: 17 November 2011 7:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup Software See below... -- Bob Hartung Dir of I.T. Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 12:51:41 -0600 Subject: RE: Backup Software With respect, I'm still not clear what you're looking to backup. Server backups. Is it all of the data, is it the subset of the data that's at the remote sites? I'd plan to back each server up to its local location and periodically replicate. I'd replicate bidirectionally between the Main and Cross-Town locations and replicate from the Out-of-State back to the Main location. The plan is to only backup what's changed since the last backup. Most of the backup solutions I've looked at have utilities to compress the incremental backups into fewer files to reduce the total number of files. You have 3tb available in each location, is that 3tb you could backup to, or are you saying it's 3tb of potential source data in each location? Just mentioning that to say my budget does not need to cover additional storage space. Are the servers file servers, Exchange servers, SQL servers? If so, what is the data split? No Exchange but we do use MySQL which I run data dumps on daily. What do you do now for backup? Arcserve using disk-to-disk-to-tape. Generally, I'd suggest moving to d2d2t but use source side dedupe and technologies like synthetic fulls to cut down your backup window. Personally I'm still a fan of tape for the "stick it in a safe" factor, tape libraries (kind of) solve the "forgot to change the tape" thing, and if you're doing d2d2t having a tape in a library is less important as your backups will still run. I don't really have any archival requirements. My main concerns are being able to quickly restore downed servers, reduce or eliminate the backup window and reduce or eliminate the use of tapes and depending on people at the remote site to put the right tape in, if they remember to do it at all. _ From: Bob Hartung [bhart...@wiscoind.com] Sent: 17 November 2011 6:20 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Backup Software We have 3 locations with 10 servers Main Location: (7) Windows 2003 and (1) Windows 2008 servers | | | | Wireless BridgeVPN (36Mb x 36MB) (3MB x 384K) | |
Re: Backup Software
I plan to check both of them out. My current disk-to-disk-tape backup at Main location uses 400 GB of space. Thanks. -- Bob Hartung Dir of I.T. Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 13:48:36 -0600 Subject: Re: Backup Software Take a look at Ultrabac, in addition to the earlier Microsoft DPM recommendation. BTW, I think Paul was hoping you'd give a total storage count at some point, as you did not indicate the total size of storage under management for the primary location. ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Bob Hartung wrote: See below... ------ Bob Hartung Dir of I.T. Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 12:51:41 -0600 Subject: RE: Backup Software With respect, I'm still not clear what you're looking to backup. Server backups. Is it all of the data, is it the subset of the data that's at the remote sites?I'd plan to back each server up to its local location and periodically replicate. I'd replicate bidirectionally between the Main and Cross-Town locations and replicate from the Out-of-State back to the Main location. The plan is to only backup what's changed since the last backup. Most of the backup solutions I've looked at have utilities to compress the incremental backups into fewer files to reduce the total number of files. You have 3tb available in each location, is that 3tb you could backup to, or are you saying it's 3tb of potential source data in each location?Just mentioning that to say my budget does not need to cover additional storage space. Are the servers file servers, Exchange servers, SQL servers? If so, what is the data split?No Exchange but we do use MySQL which I run data dumps on daily. What do you do now for backup?Arcserve using disk-to-disk-to-tape. Generally, I'd suggest moving to d2d2t but use source side dedupe and technologies like synthetic fulls to cut down your backup window. Personally I'm still a fan of tape for the "stick it in a safe" factor, tape libraries (kind of) solve the "forgot to change the tape" thing, and if you're doing d2d2t having a tape in a library is less important as your backups will still run. I don't really have any archival requirements. My main concerns are being able to quickly restore downed servers, reduce or eliminate the backup window and reduce or eliminate the use of tapes and depending on people at the remote site to put the right tape in, if they remember to do it at all. _ From: Bob Hartung [bhart...@wiscoind.com] Sent: 17 November 2011 6:20 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Backup Software We have 3 locations with 10 servers Main Location: (7) Windows 2003 and (1) Windows 2008 servers | | | | Wireless BridgeVPN (36Mb x 36MB) (3MB x 384K) | | | | Cross-Town Location:Out-of-State Location: (1) Windows 2003 server (1) Windows 2003 server 350 GB of Data250 GB of Data We already have NAS units at each location with at least 3 TB of available storage. Budget: $7500 My intention with D2D is to have one full back with incremental backups so the backup window should be a non-issue. The incrementals can occur multiple times a day using VSS. -- Bob Hartung Dir of I.T. Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 11:18:12 -0600 Subject: Re: Backup Software What's your budget, size of environment, and amount of data for backups on
Re: Backup Software
Thanks, I'll take a look. ------ Bob Hartung Dir of I.T. Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 12:24:57 -0600 Subject: Re: Backup Software Most D2D solutions are going to do something different than "incrementals" in the traditional sense. They'll likely do a main full backup, and overlay a series of deltas in what some vendors refer to as a "virtual full backup" Either way, Microsoft DPM is worth a look... ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Bob Hartung wrote: We have 3 locations with 10 servers Main Location: (7) Windows 2003 and (1) Windows 2008 servers | | | | Wireless BridgeVPN (36Mb x 36MB) (3MB x 384K) | | | | Cross-Town Location:Out-of-State Location: (1) Windows 2003 server (1) Windows 2003 server 350 GB of Data250 GB of Data We already have NAS units at each location with at least 3 TB of available storage. Budget: $7500 My intention with D2D is to have one full back with incremental backups so the backup window should be a non-issue. The incrementals can occur multiple times a day using VSS. -- Bob Hartung Dir of I.T. Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 11:18:12 -0600 Subject: Re: Backup Software What's your budget, size of environment, and amount of data for backups on a daily/weekly basis? (One thing to look at, if you're a Microsoft shop, is http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/server-cloud/system-center/data-protection-manager.aspx ) ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Bob Hartung wrote: I've been researching backup software and I'd like to go with a disk-to-disk solution with offsite replication for disaster recovery. We currently are doing disk-to-disk-to-tape and it's taking too long. Plus I'm tired of people telling me they forgot to put the next tape in. I'd appreciate any real-world recommendations on what's good or warnings on what's not so good. Thanks. -- Bob Hartung Dir of I.T. Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Backup Software
See below... -- Bob Hartung Dir of I.T. Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 12:51:41 -0600 Subject: RE: Backup Software With respect, I'm still not clear what you're looking to backup. Server backups. Is it all of the data, is it the subset of the data that's at the remote sites?I'd plan to back each server up to its local location and periodically replicate. I'd replicate bidirectionally between the Main and Cross-Town locations and replicate from the Out-of-State back to the Main location. The plan is to only backup what's changed since the last backup. Most of the backup solutions I've looked at have utilities to compress the incremental backups into fewer files to reduce the total number of files. You have 3tb available in each location, is that 3tb you could backup to, or are you saying it's 3tb of potential source data in each location?Just mentioning that to say my budget does not need to cover additional storage space. Are the servers file servers, Exchange servers, SQL servers? If so, what is the data split?No Exchange but we do use MySQL which I run data dumps on daily. What do you do now for backup?Arcserve using disk-to-disk-to-tape. Generally, I'd suggest moving to d2d2t but use source side dedupe and technologies like synthetic fulls to cut down your backup window. Personally I'm still a fan of tape for the "stick it in a safe" factor, tape libraries (kind of) solve the "forgot to change the tape" thing, and if you're doing d2d2t having a tape in a library is less important as your backups will still run. I don't really have any archival requirements. My main concerns are being able to quickly restore downed servers, reduce or eliminate the backup window and reduce or eliminate the use of tapes and depending on people at the remote site to put the right tape in, if they remember to do it at all. _ From: Bob Hartung [bhart...@wiscoind.com] Sent: 17 November 2011 6:20 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Backup Software We have 3 locations with 10 servers Main Location: (7) Windows 2003 and (1) Windows 2008 servers | | | | Wireless BridgeVPN (36Mb x 36MB) (3MB x 384K) | | | | Cross-Town Location:Out-of-State Location: (1) Windows 2003 server (1) Windows 2003 server 350 GB of Data250 GB of Data We already have NAS units at each location with at least 3 TB of available storage. Budget: $7500 My intention with D2D is to have one full back with incremental backups so the backup window should be a non-issue. The incrementals can occur multiple times a day using VSS. -- Bob Hartung Dir of I.T. Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 11:18:12 -0600 Subject: Re: Backup Software What's your budget, size of environment, and amount of data for backups on a daily/weekly basis? (One thing to look at, if you're a Microsoft shop, is http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/server-cloud/system-center/data-protection-manager.aspx ) ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Bob Hartung wrote: I've been researching backup software and I'd like to go with a disk-to-disk solution with offsite replication for disaster recovery. We currently are doing disk-to-disk-to-tape and it's taking too long. Plus I'm tired of people telling me they forgot to put the next tape in. I'd appreciate any real-world recommendations on what's good or warnings on what's not so good. Thanks. -- Bob Hartung Dir of I.T. Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-
Re: Backup Software
We have 3 locations with 10 servers Main Location: (7) Windows 2003 and (1) Windows 2008 servers | | | | Wireless BridgeVPN (36Mb x 36MB) (3MB x 384K) | | | | Cross-Town Location:Out-of-State Location: (1) Windows 2003 server (1) Windows 2003 server 350 GB of Data250 GB of Data We already have NAS units at each location with at least 3 TB of available storage. Budget: $7500 My intention with D2D is to have one full back with incremental backups so the backup window should be a non-issue. The incrementals can occur multiple times a day using VSS. -- Bob Hartung Dir of I.T. Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 11:18:12 -0600 Subject: Re: Backup Software What's your budget, size of environment, and amount of data for backups on a daily/weekly basis? (One thing to look at, if you're a Microsoft shop, is http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/server-cloud/system-center/data-protection-manager.aspx ) ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Bob Hartung wrote: I've been researching backup software and I'd like to go with a disk-to-disk solution with offsite replication for disaster recovery. We currently are doing disk-to-disk-to-tape and it's taking too long. Plus I'm tired of people telling me they forgot to put the next tape in. I'd appreciate any real-world recommendations on what's good or warnings on what's not so good. Thanks. -- Bob Hartung Dir of I.T. Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Backup Software
I've been researching backup software and I'd like to go with a disk-to-disk solution with offsite replication for disaster recovery. We currently are doing disk-to-disk-to-tape and it's taking too long. Plus I'm tired of people telling me they forgot to put the next tape in. I'd appreciate any real-world recommendations on what's good or warnings on what's not so good. Thanks. -- Bob Hartung Dir of I.T. Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Conference room "overflow" solutions?
GoToMeeting or some other hosted meeting service would be a relatively inexpensive alternative to trying to mirror PCs from one room to another. -- Bob Hartung Dir of I.T. Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Mon, 07 Nov 2011 07:59:21 -0600 Subject: Conference room "overflow" solutions? Hi Folks, We have several large seminar type rooms here, each with a PC/DVD/projector configuration. Anyone know of any options where I can pipe the PC in use in one room (speaker's PC or laptop) to another, screen and voice? We have a number of upcoming sessions where one room won't accommodate everyone. I could use our polycom to call from one room to another, but that would still leave the issue of screen mirroring, or whatever it would be called. Suggestions appreciated, Tom Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Moving a folder share
If you are moving to a new location that will inherit the same rights, simple copy and paste would work. If rights need to be copied, then use Robocopy. -- Bob Hartung Dir of I.T. Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Troy Adkins [mailto:tadk...@house.virginia.gov] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 14:01:23 -0500 Subject: Moving a folder share What's the best way to move a folder share from one location to another? It's on the same drive, same partition, just in a different location. Troy Adkins Network Administrator Virginia House of Delegates General Assembly Bldg. Room 815 804.698.1567 (O) 804.771.7917 (F) tadk...@house.virginia.gov http://legis.virginia.gov ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Possibly a brilliant mistake...
I feel your pain. We've got Mitsubishi press brakes that run some weird Japanese DOS, 2 Mitsubishi lasers that run Windows 95; $850 K machines and they run Windows 95 and yes, they have 3.5" floppy drive. At least the drives weren't 5.25". ---------- Bob Hartung Dir of I.T. Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 10:24:58 -0500 Subject: RE: Possibly a brilliant mistake... Our last NEW laser we purchased a couple years ago still had and NT 4 based control. And I was actually excited that it wasn't IBM PC DOS. Praying the new tube laser we get in Jan will be one of the fancy new XP controls. -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 10:17 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Possibly a brilliant mistake... On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Stefan Jafs wrote: > I can't remember last time I used a floppy drive! You obviously don't work with much automated test equipment or industrial controls. :) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: GFI Backup - Network Ed.
Potentially backing up 10 servers and 120 PCs. I'd be backing up to a Drobo Elite shared out through Windows 2003 server. ------ Bob Hartung Dir of I.T. Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Fri, 07 Oct 2011 11:43:33 -0500 Subject: RE: GFI Backup - Network Ed. How many machines and what are you backing up from/to? _ From: Bob Hartung [bhart...@wiscoind.com] Sent: 07 October 2011 5:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: GFI Backup - Network Ed. Our annual renewal for backup software is coming up (Arcserve for servers and Acronis for PCs) so I decided to look around a bit at what else is out there. I stumbled on GFI Backup and it appears to do everything I need at a relatively low price for both initial purchase and ongoing maintenance. Any one currently using it? Like it? Hate it? I'd appreciate any feedback. Thanks. ------ Bob Hartung Dir of I.T. Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com ISO 9001: 2008 with Design www.thepizzaoven.bizFood Service Equipment Division www.wiscoind.com Metal Stamping, Fabricating + Contract Mfg. Division ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin _ MIRA Ltd Watling Street, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, CV10 0TU, England Registered in England and Wales No. 402570 VAT Registration GB 100 1464 84 The contents of this e-mail are confidential and are solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you receive this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify us either by e-mail, telephone or fax. You should not copy, forward or otherwise disclose the content of the e-mail as this is prohibited. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ISO 9001: 2008 with Design www.thepizzaoven.biz Food Service Equipment Division www.wiscoind.com Metal Stamping, Fabricating + Contract Mfg. Division ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin<><>
GFI Backup - Network Ed.
Our annual renewal for backup software is coming up (Arcserve for servers and Acronis for PCs) so I decided to look around a bit at what else is out there. I stumbled on GFI Backup and it appears to do everything I need at a relatively low price for both initial purchase and ongoing maintenance. Any one currently using it? Like it? Hate it? I'd appreciate any feedback. Thanks. ------ Bob Hartung Dir of I.T. Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com ISO 9001: 2008 with Design www.thepizzaoven.biz Food Service Equipment Division www.wiscoind.com Metal Stamping, Fabricating + Contract Mfg. Division ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin<>
Re: Network Scanner Recommendation
We have a couple of Toshiba copiers (one mono, one color) that also functions as network scanners. You can load 50 pages into the feeder, runs at 50 pages/min, duplex scans. If you need a copier or need to replace a copier, it's a good way to get network scanning that's very robust and reliable. Makes an excellent network printer, as well. ------ Bob Hartung Dir of I.T. Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 09:20:25 -0500 Subject: Network Scanner Recommendation Heh guys, I need to get a network scanner that can scan to a network share and (this is important) scan a stack of paper and create a separate pdf for each page. It also needs to not be a SOHO device, something that can handle a decent volume and that I can get a service contract with. Anyone have any ideas? Thanks, James ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ISO 9001: 2008 with Design www.thepizzaoven.biz Food Service Equipment Division www.wiscoind.com Metal Stamping, Fabricating + Contract Mfg. Division ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin<>
Re: Backup devices...
Check out RDX cartridges @ Quantum. The Addonics stuff is made to be very inexpensive. -- Bob Hartung Dir of I.T. Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Mike [mailto:ntsysad...@rccs.org] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 12:50:37 -0500 Subject: Backup devices... I’ve read a few threads on here regarding alternatives to tape, but haven’t really found what I’m looking for. Right now, several of my clients are using a removable drive system from Addonics called the Ruby Drive Cartridge System (http://www.addonics.com/products/ruby/ruby_dcs.asp). This system is nice because it connects via esata or usb and uses 2.5” harddrives as the storage medium. Backups are very fast through esata. Our fileserver backs up about 140GB in about 35 minutes with this system using cheap 500GB drives. The only problem with this system is the manufacturing quality and consistency. I’ve gotten a few cartridges that won’t plug in properly to the cradle, and others don’t slide in and out smoothly. It really seems like it’s cheaply made. Are there any other removable drive systems out there that use 2.5” drives like this? I’m really surprised that I have not been able to find a higher quality system than this one. Thanks, Mike ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ISO 9001: 2008 with Design www.thepizzaoven.biz Food Service Equipment Division www.wiscoind.com Metal Stamping, Fabricating + Contract Mfg. Division ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin<>
Re: Long Distance Wireless
We have two facilities that are 1 mile apart. We have 70 ft towers at each but still only have near-line-of-site, mainly trees. We're using Solectek AirStream Bridges. Very solid connection and weather has not been an issue. The Airstreams use orthagonal signaling which means there are several frequencies used to create the link. From what I understand, signal bouncing happens which can produce a link without direct line of site. ------ Bob Hartung Dir of I.T. Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Chris Blair [mailto:chris_bl...@identisys.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 11:07:14 -0500 Subject: Long Distance Wireless Anyone have experience setting up a wireless network over a long distance? We need to connect two construction trailers, over wireless preferably, if possible. Neither side has an internet connection and is about ½ mile apart, with a newly constructed building blocking line of site. They need to be connected for an Access Control system and do not require Internet access. If wireless is not feasible, I am thinking the best route maybe cellular cards on each side, and cheap routers to setup a site to site vpn. Any other thoughts? Thanks, Chris Blair ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ISO 9001: 2008 with Design www.thepizzaoven.biz Food Service Equipment Division www.wiscoind.com Metal Stamping, Fabricating + Contract Mfg. Division ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin<>
RE: RDX Removable Disk Drive
Here's what I'm considering ... * Dock vs Tape Drive * Pros * Cost * An external Quantum RDX dock cost $150 and has cartridges with capacity up to 1 TB. A external Quantum LTO4 tape drive (800 MB) costs about $1,550 and an external Quantum LTO5 tape drive costs about @2,200. I've had 2 tape drives go bad in the last couple of years, one under warranty and one not. * Maintenance * RDX docks don't require cleaning like tape drives do. * Longevity * RDX docks have few moving parts so are less prone to failure * LTO tape drives have restrictions on which cartridges they can access. For instance, if you have LTO2 tapes and only have an LTO5 tape drive, you can't read the LTO2 tape. In this circumstance, you might have to restore the LTO2 data back to disk and then save it to LTO5 just to maintain ready access. Alternatively, buy an LTO3 tape drive and put it on the shelf. * LTO MatrixLTO-1 DriveLTO-2 DriveLTO-3 DriveLTO-4 DriveLTO-5 Drive LTO-1 TapeR/W R/W R — — LTO-2 Tape— R/W R/W R — LTO-3 Tape— — R/W R/W R LTO-4 Tape— — — R/W R/W LTO-5 Tape — — — — R/W * Cons * Speed (I'm actually surprised by the tapes having a faster transfer rate than the RDX cartridges.) * Quantum RDX connecting via ... * USB 2.0 has a transfer rate of 25 MB/sec * SATA has a tranfer rate of 45 MB/sec SATA * Quantum LTO4 connecting via ... * Ultra 320 SCSI has tranfer rate of 80 MB/sec * 3 Gb/sec SAS has transfewr rate of 80 MB/sec * Quantum LTO5 connecting via ... * 6 Gb/sec SAS has tranfer rate of 140 MB/sec * Durability (Lower longevity of RDX dock is offset by much lower price) * RDX docks * Dock: 10,000 load/unload cycles MTBF: 550,000 hours MTBF Unrecoverable Error Rate:1 error in 10 14 bits read * LTO 4 Tape Drive * MTBF (hours): 250,000 @ 100% duty cycle Load/Unload Life: 50,000 cycles Non-recoverable Error Rate:1 × 10 17 bits (non-media error, clean drive) * LTO 5 Tape Drive * MTBF hours: 250,000 @ 100% duty cycle MSBF: 100,000 cycles Load/Unload Life: 120,000 cycles Non-recoverable Error Rate:1 in 1 × 10 17 bits (non-media error, clean drive) * Disk Cartridge vs Tape * Pros * Longevity * RDX Cartridges are disk drives so the ability to read the data on them is limited only by how long the hard drive can operate * Cartridge Archive Life: 30 years * LTO 4 Tape * Archive Storage: 30 years * LTO 5 Tape * Archive Storage: 30 years * LTO tape drives have restrictions on which cartridges they can access. For instance, if you have LTO2 tapes and only have an LTO5 tape drive, you can't read the LTO2 tape. In this circumstance, you might have to restore the LTO2 data back to disk and then save it to LTO5 just to maintain ready access. Alternatively, buy an LTO3 tape drive and put it on the shelf * Access time * RDX drive access is 15 msec. * LTO 4 access time is 80 secs. * LTO 5 access time is 51 secs. * Ease of use * Since RDX Cartridges are hard drives, writing/reading data on them is much simpler; as easy as copy a file from the command prompt. * LTO tapes generally require application software to read\write. * Cons * Cost * RDX 1 Tb cartridge costs about $185 * LTO4 tape costs about $35 * LTO5 tape costs about $65 * Durability * Since RDX Cartridges are enclosed in a case that's meant to protect them, they have to be more durable than a bare drive but it's still a hard drive. * Cartridge: 5,000 load/unload cycles * LTO tapes are pretty rugged. I've dropped them on concrete floors and have yet to have one fail. * LTO 4 Durability: 20,000 load/unload cycles * LTO 5 Durability: 20,000 load/unload cycles As with most things, there's no clear-cut winner here. But much food for thought. -- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com Website: www.wiscoind.com _ From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 15:27:50 -0500 Subject: RE: RDX Removable Disk Drive Sorry if this is a naive question but what is the benefit of RDX
RE: RDX Removable Disk Drive
I'm currently using Arcserve and an LTO2 tape drive to backup a remote site. We do use a GFS rotation of 22 tapes. Having worked with RD1000 (which is probably a relabeld Quantum drive), would you see any issues with using the RD1000 (or this kind of technology) as a replacement for the LTO2 tape drive? I checked and Arcserve supports the Quantum RDX. ------ Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com Website: www.wiscoind.com _ From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 15:12:02 -0500 Subject: RE: RDX Removable Disk Drive I recently deployed a Dell RD1000 (quite possibly the same with a different label) for a small client I still support. So far I can’t say anything too bad about it. Setup took only a few minutes. I could not use the included software because it did not natively support Exchange without additional licensing, but Windows Backup has worked fine and the device simply appears as a drive. One of their employees changes the drive every day and puts it in a Pelican case to take offsite for the night. The one thing I did do, was buy two devices and some extra drives. They store the spares off site. I was afraid that 5 years from now, (when they are still using it because they only refresh when something breaks), the main one gets stolen or damaged and I can’t find a replacement to restore quickly. This way they have one to plug in and pull a restore from another machine. BF From: Bob Hartung [mailto:bhart...@wiscoind.com] Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 3:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RDX Removable Disk Drive I've got a Dell PowerVault 110T LTO2 tape drive that has failed and was out of warranty so I have to replace the whole thing. As a possible alternative, I've been looking at the Quantum RDX Removable Disk Drive. The price of an PowerVault 110T LTO3 tape drive and the cost of the RDX with 22 cartridges aren't that far apart. Does anyone have any experience with these units? I'd appreciate any feedback. Thanks. ------ Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com Website: www.wiscoind.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RDX Removable Disk Drive
I've got a Dell PowerVault 110T LTO2 tape drive that has failed and was out of warranty so I have to replace the whole thing. As a possible alternative, I've been looking at the Quantum RDX Removable Disk Drive. The price of an PowerVault 110T LTO3 tape drive and the cost of the RDX with 22 cartridges aren't that far apart. Does anyone have any experience with these units? I'd appreciate any feedback. Thanks. ---------- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com Website: www.wiscoind.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Off-Brand / Reman Toner
If you have service contracts on your HP printers for service, you could look into buying remanufactured toners from your service contract provider. If the cartridges they provide cause problems it just means they have to clean up or fix the printer themselves. -- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 09:31:06 -0500 Subject: RE: Off-Brand / Reman Toner Thank you all for your feedback! I believe we’ll stick with OEM for now. We never have problems with those. John From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 9:28 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: Off-Brand / Reman Toner We’re an HP shop when it comes to printers, and we’ve always used HP brand toner. A few companies have been hitting us up lately trying to sell us off-brand and/or remanufactured toner. We’ve never bought these in the past, but maybe my fears are unfounded. Maybe they work just as well as HP toner, but for a lot less money. Anyone have any experience with them? Thoughts? John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: PC Mall created a customer account without my knowledge
I've found that Provantage is very price competitive and has good service and delivery. ------ Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 13:03:19 -0500 Subject: RE: PC Mall created a customer account without my knowledge I worked with pc mall for about four years during which time I had the same account rep. She was very good about working with me, conferencing in people they had on site from different vendors, such as Dell and HP when I had a project, question or issue. I never had problems with delivery, or returns, and the prices were almost always the best I could find. Then they switched reps on me …several times. Now I don’t use them anymore. I know a lot of shops use CDW, but does anyone use or have opinions on some other places like Zones, Insight or PC Connection? I don’t have any one go-to place at the moment. I used to like PC Connection many years ago, but then it seemed like they could never give me the same pricing I could get from PC Mall or Dell, and they also switched me to an rep I didn’t like. From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 11:58 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: PC Mall created a customer account without my knowledge LOL From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 11:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: PC Mall created a customer account without my knowledge What was that account #. From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 11:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: PC Mall created a customer account without my knowledge Unbelievable… So now I am wasting 30 minutes going back and forth with this guy explaining that I never signed up, never asked to be signed up, never used them (and never will). I said: “You setup a corporate purchasing account without authorization, then sent the login credentials via a plain text email… and you don’t see anything wrong w/ that?” “What is to stop a 3rd party from obtaining that information, logging in as me and buying product under my account???” His reply was that he wanted to make it as easy as possible for me to buy from them, and that I can log in and change my password as often as I’d like.. Are you kidding me?!?! From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 11:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: PC Mall created a customer account without my knowledge They are scum, imho. For over 5 years they tried to collect from a former employer on a product I returned to PC Mall while I was there. We repeatedly sent them proof of delivery of the return. I told the account rep that if they called again we would never do business with them again. I was nice, but dead serious…get your bean counters to stop calling my bean counters. It didn’t stop. Last I heard it continued well beyond me leaving the company. From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 11:02 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: PC Mall created a customer account without my knowledge Has anyone dealt w/ this company? I just got an email from PC Mall saying “Welcome to PC Mall” – here is your username and password to begin saving money”… WTF? I never signed up w/ them, never even talked to them… Is this normal practice for resellers to just auto-create customer accounts? And to then send a plain-text email containing log on credentials??? I replied back demanding to have the account deleted and confirmation of my request. /Rant off . ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/r
RE: Remote Access Problem with HP Switch
It's weird; prior to installing the new switch I was able to access the old switch at the remote location from my location. The only thing that has changed is that there's a new piece of hardware with the 172.18.1.51 IP address. I'm thinking there's an issue with 172.18.1.51 having a new MAC address associated with it but the Remote Cisco Router ARP table shows the new MAC address. ---------- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 14:41:51 -0500 Subject: RE: Remote Access Problem with HP Switch Missing a route somewhere? From: Bob Hartung [mailto:bhart...@wiscoind.com] Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 2:40 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Remote Access Problem with HP Switch Here's the trace route to the new switch's IP. tracert 172.18.1.51 Tracing route to 172.18.1.51 over a maximum of 30 hops 1 1 ms<1 ms<1 ms 172.16.254.254 <--- My Location Main Cisco Router 2 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 172.16.254.253 <--- My Location Cisco Router that connects to wireless bridge 3 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 192.168.100.2 <--- Remote Cisco Router that connects to wireless bridge 4 *** Request timed out. 5 *** Request timed out. 6 *** Request timed out. 7 *** Request timed out. 8 *** Request timed out. 9 *** Request timed out. 10 *** Request timed out. Here's a trace route from the remote site to a switch at my location. tracert 172.16.1.51 Tracing route to 172.16.1.51 over a maximum of 30 hops R 1<1 ms<1 ms<1 ms 172.18.254.254 <--- Remote Cisco Router that connects to wireless bridge 2 1 ms 1 ms 2 ms 192.168.100.1 <--- My Location Cisco Router that connects to wireless bridge 3 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 172.16.1.51 <--- My Location HP Switch So the failure is happening in the Remote Cisco router, between the 192.168.100.x interface and the 172.18.x.x interface. I can successfully ping 172.18.1.51 from the Remote Cisco Router. If I look at the ARP table in the Remote Cisco Router, it shows the MAC address of the new switch associated with 172.18.1.51. -- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 09:12:31 -0500 Subject: Re: Remote Access Problem with HP Switch How about the gateway and the subnet mask? What happens if you traceroute to the switch? -ASB: http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker Sent from my Motorola Droid On Jul 7, 2011 7:41 AM, "Bob Hartung" wrote: ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Remote Access Problem with HP Switch
Here's the trace route to the new switch's IP. tracert 172.18.1.51 Tracing route to 172.18.1.51 over a maximum of 30 hops 1 1 ms<1 ms<1 ms 172.16.254.254 <--- My Location Main Cisco Router 2 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 172.16.254.253 <--- My Location Cisco Router that connects to wireless bridge 3 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 192.168.100.2 <--- Remote Cisco Router that connects to wireless bridge 4 *** Request timed out. 5 *** Request timed out. 6 *** Request timed out. 7 *** Request timed out. 8 *** Request timed out. 9 *** Request timed out. 10 *** Request timed out. Here's a trace route from the remote site to a switch at my location. tracert 172.16.1.51 Tracing route to 172.16.1.51 over a maximum of 30 hops R 1<1 ms<1 ms<1 ms 172.18.254.254 <--- Remote Cisco Router that connects to wireless bridge 2 1 ms 1 ms 2 ms 192.168.100.1 <--- My Location Cisco Router that connects to wireless bridge 3 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 172.16.1.51 <--- My Location HP Switch So the failure is happening in the Remote Cisco router, between the 192.168.100.x interface and the 172.18.x.x interface. I can successfully ping 172.18.1.51 from the Remote Cisco Router. If I look at the ARP table in the Remote Cisco Router, it shows the MAC address of the new switch associated with 172.18.1.51. -- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 09:12:31 -0500 Subject: Re: Remote Access Problem with HP Switch How about the gateway and the subnet mask? What happens if you traceroute to the switch? -ASB: http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker Sent from my Motorola Droid On Jul 7, 2011 7:41 AM, "Bob Hartung" wrote: ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Remote Access Problem with HP Switch
Yesterday, I replaced an HP Procurve 2626 with an HP 2810-48G. Now I'm having issues accessing the switch. The switch is located at a remote facility that is on a 172.18.x.x subnet. My location is on a 172.16.x.x subnet. The two facilities are connected via wireless bridges and a pair of Cisco 2600 routers. Cisco 2600 (My Location) - Wireless Bridge (My Location) /\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Wireless Bridge (Remote Location) - Cisco 2600 (Remote Location) I manually set the IP address on the new switch to the same IP as the old switch. When I'm at the remote facility, I can access the new switch's web interface and can ping it from any PC. When I am at my location, I cannot ping or access the new switch. I can successfully ping the switch from the Cisco 2600 at the remote facility, but it fails on the Cisco 2600 at my location. My guess is there's some kind of table issue on the Cisco 2600 at my location. I installed the new switch yesterday so it's had plenty of time to update. Would restarting the router force a refresh? ------ Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: How...
Copy the CD to the network. Installs fine from there. -- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 13:49:01 -0500 Subject: RE: How... 'Cause I have to find the CD and install it again... :/ From: Bob Hartung [mailto:bhart...@wiscoind.com] Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 2:40 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: How... We still use it too. Takes like 2 minutes to install. If he's happy with it, what does it matter? ------ Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 13:21:05 -0500 Subject: How... My boss is getting ready to get a new (to him) computer in a few days. He abso-freakin-lutely is devoted to his Lotus suite. He uses Outlook and I think he even uses Word, but prefers to use Lotus 123. I would *really* like to get him off that, as it's a PITA to reinstall that on every freakin' machine he gets! :D Anyone got any suggestions on how to get him to give up his Lotus? Thanks, John Aldrich IT Manager, Blueridge Carpet 706-276-2001, Ext. 2233 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: How...
We still use it too. Takes like 2 minutes to install. If he's happy with it, what does it matter? ------ Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 13:21:05 -0500 Subject: How... My boss is getting ready to get a new (to him) computer in a few days. He abso-freakin-lutely is devoted to his Lotus suite. He uses Outlook and I think he even uses Word, but prefers to use Lotus 123. I would *really* like to get him off that, as it's a PITA to reinstall that on every freakin' machine he gets! :D Anyone got any suggestions on how to get him to give up his Lotus? Thanks, John Aldrich IT Manager, Blueridge Carpet 706-276-2001, Ext. 2233 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Fake antivirus
Try System Restore as well. -- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Fri, 03 Jun 2011 09:30:50 -0500 Subject: Re: Fake antivirus May be time to invest in some UAT (user awareness training). Continual re-infestation either means he is unlucky, or gung-ho in his browsing. I've had some fake AVs recently which were ridiculously easy to get rid of (kill process, delete files, remove autorun entry). Others have been more stealthy - such as killing targeted windows like Task Manager. Booting into safe mode usually prevents these extra "features" from bothering you. But as with everything - a reimage may be the only way to be sure. On 3 June 2011 15:26, John Aldrich wrote: I'm going to go to a former co-worker's this afternoon to clean his system (again) from another fake antivirus infestation. I've already got Vipre Rescue and Malware Bytes on a memory stick. I've also got RKILL. I haven't had to deal with any fake antivirus in a few weeks. Just wondering if they have developed any new tricks recently that I should be aware of? Oh, this user had Vipre Home on his PC, and got infested anyway. Should I submit samples to Sunbelt (assuming I can find where they're quarantined)??? Thanks! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- "On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question." IMPORTANT: The information in this email is CONFIDENTIAL. If its contents are disclosed in any way my lawyers will swoop down from black helicopters like Seal Team Six and drag you away with a black bag over your head. They will then take you to a secret prison and make you fight to the death with other people who dared to share this email. You will be given a large bowie knife and a supply of methamphetamines while I watch the said deathmatch and wager vast sums of money on who will be the winner. If the fight becomes boring or there is a stalemate, I will release rabid dogs and my two-stone cat into the arena to liven things up a bit. If these animals become in any way docile, I will squirt them with water pistols until they become a bit more temperamental. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Latest Vipre Upgrade - Client Performance Issues
I've been getting complaints from a number of users about how slow their systems are running. These complaints started coming in the day after I applied the v4.0.4045 upgrade. I'm interested to hear if others are experiencing this problem? Thanks. ------ Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: System Restore and Scareware
Sound like the malware we got. Re-emphasizing my original post, System Restore made the removal easy. -- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thu, 26 May 2011 06:53:25 -0500 Subject: RE: System Restore and Scareware Yep already seen that one in action here, a bugger to clean up. Z Edward E. Ziots CISSP, Network +, Security + Security Engineer Lifespan Organization Email:ezi...@lifespan.org Cell:401-639-3505 From: Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 7:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: System Restore and Scareware Saw this the other day: http://tech.slashdot.org/story/11/05/20/2334259/New-Malware-Simulates-Hard-Drive-Failure -- Mike Gill From: Bob Hartung [mailto:bhart...@wiscoind.com] Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 12:47 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: System Restore and Scareware I've had a couple of recent cases of scareware infecting some Windows XP Pro systems here. One reported lots of virus infestations and prevented the user from accessing the internet and, for a low price, would fix all. The other reported that the hard drive had tons of errors and the boot sector was gone, etc. And for a small fee, their utility could fix it. This system was unusable. Maybe this is pretty basic but I haven't seen mention of it but in both cases, Window's System Restore easily removed both. I've seen descriptions of fixing infected systems involving fairly complex procedures and multiple utilities. I guess I just wanted to recommend giving System Restore a try first before resorting to the heavy artillery. On the system that had the failed hard drive scareware, it was impossible to access System Restore in normal windows. I figured Safe Mode was the way to go but I discovered System Restore is not available in Safe Mode. I did learn that you can run System Restore in Safe Mode with Command Prompt. Just enter "%systemroot%\system32\restore\rstrui.exe" at the command prompt and you're in System Restore. Not sure why regular Safe Mode wouldn't have that command available. Hope that's of help to someone else. -- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Sysinternals Junction to move "Program Files"
You'd be better off using a product like Acronis Disk Director and resize the partition by borrowing space from another volume, assuming you don't have an 11 GB drive as your C drive home ;-) ------ Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Jonathan [mailto:ncm...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Wed, 25 May 2011 14:17:31 -0500 Subject: Re: Sysinternals Junction to move "Program Files" Oh, I agree that it isn't the BEST fix -- the best fix would involve fdisk --> format --> reinstall windows. The predicament is that the C:\ drive is only 11 Gigs in the first place... There's 1.3 Gigs of space tied up in user profiles, and that is my first plan of attack, but other than that, my only large directories/files are under: C:\Windows C:\Program Files C:\Program Files (x86) Thoughts on why it wouldn't be a good idea? With a junction, the OS thinks it is still going to the same place, doesn't it? JR On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 3:03 PM, Andrew S. Baker wrote: I don't think it's a good idea. I used to play with those folders in years gone by, but it's going to be worth far more in the long-term to fix this problem in a different way, IMO. ASB (Professional Bio) Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Jonathan wrote: Hi all, I've got a Windows 2003 server with a system root that is way undersized... I've used Sysinternals Junction to move other directories on Server 2003 from C:\ to another local drive on the machine, but have any of you used it to move C:\Program Files and/or C:\ProgramFiles (x86) on Server 2003 to an alternate local drive with success? I'm assuming the actual rename and ultimate deletion of the original "Program Files" folder would need to be done under safe mode, if this is even possible. http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896768 TIA, -- Jonathan, A+, MCSA, MCSE ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Jonathan, A+, MCSA, MCSE ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
System Restore and Scareware
I've had a couple of recent cases of scareware infecting some Windows XP Pro systems here. One reported lots of virus infestations and prevented the user from accessing the internet and, for a low price, would fix all. The other reported that the hard drive had tons of errors and the boot sector was gone, etc. And for a small fee, their utility could fix it. This system was unusable. Maybe this is pretty basic but I haven't seen mention of it but in both cases, Window's System Restore easily removed both. I've seen descriptions of fixing infected systems involving fairly complex procedures and multiple utilities. I guess I just wanted to recommend giving System Restore a try first before resorting to the heavy artillery. On the system that had the failed hard drive scareware, it was impossible to access System Restore in normal windows. I figured Safe Mode was the way to go but I discovered System Restore is not available in Safe Mode. I did learn that you can run System Restore in Safe Mode with Command Prompt. Just enter "%systemroot%\system32\restore\rstrui.exe" at the command prompt and you're in System Restore. Not sure why regular Safe Mode wouldn't have that command available. Hope that's of help to someone else. -- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: VOIP design questions
We have a VOIP phone system (Altigen), approximate 120 users in 2 locations. Like your proposal, we have VOIP desk phones that sit between the network and the PC. Our system supports about 20 analog phones as well. I've not experienced any problems with this other than people unplugging the power from their phones for one reason or another. We've also had a few instances where a problem on the phone creates an issue with the data connection. Replacing the phone has fixed the issue. We have all HP Procurve 2600 and 2800 series switches. We have very good voice quality. I think what your vendor is telling you about voice traffic is true. At any given time, I don't think we ever have more than 10 - 12 concurrent phone sessions running; generally it's less so the level of network traffic generated by VOIP is fairly small compared to data. We're using the highest quality codec which produces the highest level of network traffic. If your network is really busy and has a ton of data traffic, you're likely to get echoing and choppiness if you don't have VOIP packet prioritization set properly on your switches. As far as typical 100 MB or better networks, I don't think it's ever really an issue for internal calls. VOIP over the internet is a whole different issue. Good luck with your project. -- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Mon, 02 May 2011 08:38:41 -0500 Subject: VOIP design questions Folks, We are planning to retire our current phone system and move to a Mitel VOIP system. Not having implemented VOIP before, I have some questions for those of you that have: - our vendor claims our current data network can easily handle VOIP traffic since it's a small amount of traffic (don't know exact amount yet, still awaiting vendor response). As such, they tell it is possible to use our current network to accommodate voice and data. I'm not sure if I"m comfortable with this. I was thinking of a more segregated approach: different network and voice and data never intersect. - our vendor claims we can use the existing data jack for the phones, and plug the desktop PCs/laptops into the phone as a sort of switch. I'm thinking this would add another level of complexity: phone is broke and by the way you can't get on the network now. - the reason the vendor suggests the above is that the current voice drops (cat5) terminate to phone patch panels (in most cases). Those cables would need to be cut and re-terminated to switches. So I have some concerns about our vendor claims. The dollar figure they propose does not include network changes, new switches, etc. Looking at the cost proposal, I am thinking there are quite a few hardware and man-hours costs missing. What do you folks do for VOIP? Thanks, Tom Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Searchable index of offline files?
There's quite a few of these utilities out there but the one that I've been using is Index Your Files. www.indexyourfiles.com Very fast finding files you are looking for and then accessing them. ------ Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 22:00:20 -0500 Subject: Searchable index of offline files? Is there a way to create a searchable index of files and folders, that one could use to query media that is not available? I've run into a couple situations lately where I have needed to know what is on a disk that is unavailable in the short term. Ideas? TIA, Sam ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
External Storage for Backup
I have a remote location with a single Dell 2900 (Win2K3) server. In addition to being the solitary file server, it also runs Arcserve Disk-to-Disk-Tape to back up itself as well as a windows phone server, a couple of PCs dedicated to special functions and 14 PCs. Room for the Disk-to-Disk-Tape is getting slim so I'm looking for external storage to store the Disk-to-Disk stuff as well as Acronis workstation image files. I'm interested in the Qnap TS-559 Pro II Turbo NAS. It has every connection option (including USB 3.0). I initially plan to connect it to the Dell 2900's 2nd gigabit ethernet port but I'd have both eSATA and USB 3.0 as options if more performance is necessary. Anyone using this unit or similar? I'd be grateful for feedback. Thanks. ------ Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: search program
Are you only searching local drives or does it include network as well? -- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: andy [mailto:afo...@psu.edu] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 07:39:59 -0500 Subject: search program Does anybody know of a search program that will run on Vista or Windows 7? It has to be fast and not cause problems with other programs. Something like the old windows search. The search in Windows 7 really stinks and is very slow. Even after indexing. Google search has too many problems with it and seems to slow down computers. Is there any way to get the old windows search function back? Andy0 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Hot folder for text files?
Do the text files that have already been printed remain in the directory or are they deleted? -- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Evan Brastow [mailto:ebras...@automatedemblem.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 12:29:09 -0500 Subject: Hot folder for text files? Dumb question, but I'm striking out on Google. I'm just looking for a program that can monitor a folder and print any text files (just plain old .txt files) that show up in it? I've found a program called Hot Folder Printer, but it only works with image files. Anyone happen to see something like this in their travels? Thanks, Evan ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5
I think you'll hose the RAID entirely if you do that. The rebuilding of the single replaced drive relies on all the remaining drives for the restoring the data. ------ Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thu, 07 Apr 2011 11:58:01 -0500 Subject: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5 So I have a Dell 2850 with 6 drives in raid 5 and one completely failed and another is predicted to according to the OpenManage software. I replaced the failed one and it's rebuilding but I was wondering if anyone has an opinion on whether or not I can replace the suspect drive before the other one completes it's rebuild as this is a remote office and I really don't want to drive back out here just to swap a drive out. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership for Strong Families CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: OT: WiFi Repeater recommendations
You don't mention what your load and application requirements are. How many PCs are at the far end of this link? Is there clear line of sight? Will you use the link for VOIP? Will the link support web access, application access. How much total bandwidth is needed? 100 yards isn't too much to consider a buried cable connection, if the property between is owned by the same people that own the 2 end locations. Are there acceptable alternatives that are being considered? Would a cable or DSL connection to 2nd location and VPN between the 2 end locations work? We have a couple of locations 3 miles apart. A T1 would cost over $500/mo (small community). We ended up erecting 75' towers at each locations and still didn't have clear line of sight (deciduous trees mostly). We currently use Solectek AirStream bridges that work quite well for us. We get 36 Mbps data rate and the link is very solid. ---------- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:angu...@geoapps.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Fri, 01 Apr 2011 17:01:12 -0500 Subject: OT: WiFi Repeater recommendations OT, but it's Friday. I need to set up a Wireless Repeater, or set up a wireless bridge to another building with a WiFi hotspot in the second building. The buildings are about 100 yards apart, and there are some desert trees between them. Recommendations for gear welcome. TIA Angus ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: UPS won't turn on
They have a circuit breaker button on the back. If you press that and it still doesn't power up, it's broken. ------ Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Fri, 01 Apr 2011 13:13:29 -0500 Subject: UPS won't turn on I've got a SMARTUPS 1400 that I've had plugged up for awhile trying to see if I can use it. It was just sitting around in one of the offices, not being used, so I thought I'd see what I could do with it. As I said, it's been plugged up for awhile, but it won't even power on. Any ideas what might be the problem? The disconnect plug in back is plugged in so that's not the problem. Any ideas? I don't get any lights or beeps or anything. Thanks! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Move or Fresh Win7 Install to SSD?
What can I say...great minds think alike. -- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Fri, 01 Apr 2011 11:04:48 -0500 Subject: RE: Move or Fresh Win7 Install to SSD? I thought the same thing… Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Bob Hartung [mailto:bhart...@wiscoind.com] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 12:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Move or Fresh Win7 Install to SSD? Too bad spell checkers are not context sensitive. ;>) -- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Fri, 01 Apr 2011 10:59:43 -0500 Subject: Re: Move or Fresh Win7 Install to SSD? It's another drive, so a clone to that drive should be fine. That said, having not worked with SSDs as yet in this capacity, I'm not sure what driver will be used to interface with the drive. Still, it's an easy test and you love relatively little in trying it. ASB (Professional Bio) Technology Services that Maximize Business Results... On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Guyer, Don wrote: Everyone, I’m looking to purchase an SSD drive and want to know what experiences people here have had. Currently running 2-80 GB HDDs, setup in RAID1, running Win7 Ent 64-bit. Have a 3rd 1 TB drive also, just housing data. I would like to save some time from reinstalling the O/S and apps and after researching have seen some info regarding creating an image and then restoring to the SSD drive, as opposed to doing a fresh install. Any input is greatly appreciated! TIA, Don Guyer Windows Systems Engineer Datasafe Platform Enterprise Technology Group Fiserv don.gu...@fiserv.com Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673 Fax: 610-233-0404 www.fiserv.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Move or Fresh Win7 Install to SSD?
Too bad spell checkers are not context sensitive. ;>) -- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Fri, 01 Apr 2011 10:59:43 -0500 Subject: Re: Move or Fresh Win7 Install to SSD? It's another drive, so a clone to that drive should be fine. That said, having not worked with SSDs as yet in this capacity, I'm not sure what driver will be used to interface with the drive. Still, it's an easy test and you love relatively little in trying it. ASB (Professional Bio) Technology Services that Maximize Business Results... On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Guyer, Don wrote: Everyone, I’m looking to purchase an SSD drive and want to know what experiences people here have had. Currently running 2-80 GB HDDs, setup in RAID1, running Win7 Ent 64-bit. Have a 3rd 1 TB drive also, just housing data. I would like to save some time from reinstalling the O/S and apps and after researching have seen some info regarding creating an image and then restoring to the SSD drive, as opposed to doing a fresh install. Any input is greatly appreciated! TIA, Don Guyer Windows Systems Engineer Datasafe Platform Enterprise Technology Group Fiserv don.gu...@fiserv.com Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673 Fax: 610-233-0404 www.fiserv.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Windows 7 Professional / VMWare
Thanks. On a related issue, I know you can "virtualize" an existing system using a VMWare utility. I did it just to see how it worked. Came up fine but, as expected, it wanted to phone home to the mothership immediately. How do you handle licensing when you do this? I've got a couple of XP Pro systems I'm interested in virtualizing. Do you virtualize them and then register them with Win7 licenses? (Small editorial aside: I hate MS Licensing!) ---------- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:cgarciamo...@spragueenergy.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 13:44:29 -0500 Subject: RE: Windows 7 Professional / VMWare Volume License, KMS preferred if you will keep making more from a gold image or MAK if they are static Registration works 100% the same Not as long as the hardware is the same, if not it will go thru a new HW discovery which might require acticvation Cheers! Carlos From: Bob Hartung [mailto:bhart...@wiscoind.com] Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 2:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Windows 7 Professional / VMWare I'm interested in creating 3 or 4 Windows 7 Pro VMs on an ESXI 3.0 server; new territory for me. * Do you just use retail or volume license versions of Win7? Or is there any different licensing options for VMs? * If I create a Win 7 VM, does the registration process work identically to a PC install? * If you create a Win 7 VM on one server and then move it to another, is that comparable to installing Win 7 on one PC and then installing it on another? ---------- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin _ This e-mail, including attachments, contains information that is confidential and may be protected by attorney/client or other privileges. This e-mail, including attachments, constitutes non-public information intended to be conveyed only to the designated recipient(s). If you are not an intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this e-mail, including attachments, is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify me by e-mail reply and delete the original message and any attachments from your system. _ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Windows 7 Professional / VMWare
I'm interested in creating 3 or 4 Windows 7 Pro VMs on an ESXI 3.0 server; new territory for me. * Do you just use retail or volume license versions of Win7? Or is there any different licensing options for VMs? * If I create a Win 7 VM, does the registration process work identically to a PC install? * If you create a Win 7 VM on one server and then move it to another, is that comparable to installing Win 7 on one PC and then installing it on another? ------ Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: R: DNS Issue
Finally got a call back from eSoft tech support (firewall vendor). Their firewall rules are hierarchical so where a rule falls in the pecking order matters. Turns out the "webaccess" rule came before the "VPN" rule. As such, the internal webserver address was passed to the web proxy and failed because external DNS servers don't have our internal addresses. Once the webaccess rule was placed below the VPN rule, everything started working. On an interesting related matter, the internal webserver in question was our WSUS 3.0 server. Sure enough when the rules were re-ordered, I could get the informational webpage from the WSUS server to come up on the remote PC but windows update still wasn't working. Checking the %windows%\windowsupdate.log file showed that the PC was successfully contacting the WSUS server and identifying the appropriate udpates to install but the PC failed to download the updates. A "DnldMgr Error 0x80072efd occurred while downloading update" error was at the end of the log. An error with numerous possible causes. Here's what I had to do on the remote PCs to get it working... * Stop the automatic updates service. * Stop the Background and Intelligent Transfer (BIT) service. * Delete the contents of the %windows%\SoftwareDistribution directory * Flush the DNS cache (ipconfig /flushdns) * Re-start the BIT service * Re-initialize windows update (wuauclt /resetauthorization /detectnow) I had to do a lot of searching to stumble on this procedure to re-initialize the PC's windows update state so I'm noting it here in the hopes it saves someone else a lot of grief trying to setup remote PCs to update from a local WSUS server. -- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 09:21:04 -0500 Subject: RE: R: DNS Issue Ok, therefore from the local site you don’t have an issue getting to the server on the local site. >From the Remote-Site it is filtered, which means you either have a routing >issue or an ACL which is dropping traffic to web server ( why you are seeing >the port 80 filtered) I would review the ACL’s on the VPN ( Source/Dest IP’s/Ports) on traffic coming from the remote-site to the local site. Are there other remote sites that can access this web-server? ( If so look at the ACL’s for that site to ascertain what is different accordingly) Also do you know a port that is open from the remote site to the local site to that server, that could be used as a test for source port. ( like port 25, 22,23, 445, 139) Basically the syntax would be the following form the “remote site” Nmap –sS –P0 –g Source_port –p 80 Local_web_Server_ip If you want to look at a debugged output the command would be the following: Nmap –sS –P0 –g Source_port –p 80 -d Local_web_Server_ip If you get a good connection to the server you should see the following come back: Scanned at 2011-03-16 10:19:11 Eastern Daylight Time for 1s PORT STATE SERVICE REASON 80/tcp open httpsyn-ack Final times for host: srtt: 0 rttvar: 5000 to: 10 HTH Z Edward E. Ziots CISSP, Network +, Security + Network Engineer Lifespan Organization Email:ezi...@lifespan.org Cell:401-639-3505 From: Bob Hartung [mailto:bhart...@wiscoind.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 10:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: R: DNS Issue Thanks. Handy utility. I used NMAP, both on the local LAN and on the remote site. Local PORT STATE SERVICE VERSION 80/tcpopen http Microsoft IIS httpd 7.0 Remote PORT STATE SERVICE VERSION 80/tcpfiltered http The help file shows... filtered Nmap cannot determine whether the port is open because packet filtering prevents its probes from reaching the port. This is indeterminate but suggests that the firewall may be interfering. Still waiting for the firewall tech support to get back to me. -- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 07:43:10 -0500 Subject: RE: R: DNS Issue Is you wan
RE: R: DNS Issue
Thanks. Handy utility. I used NMAP, both on the local LAN and on the remote site. Local PORT STATE SERVICE VERSION 80/tcpopen http Microsoft IIS httpd 7.0 Remote PORT STATE SERVICE VERSION 80/tcpfiltered http The help file shows... filtered Nmap cannot determine whether the port is openbecause packet filtering prevents its probes from reaching the port.This is indeterminate but suggests that the firewall may be interfering. Still waiting for the firewall tech support to get back to me. -- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 07:43:10 -0500 Subject: RE: R: DNS Issue Is you want to see if port 80/433 is open on the end-point device a simple NMAP command will tell you this ( If there is an acl on the router/VPN) it will show ( Filtered) Nmap –sS –P0 –p 80,443 IP_ADDRESS_OF_Server Z Edward E. Ziots CISSP, Network +, Security + Network Engineer Lifespan Organization Email:ezi...@lifespan.org Cell:401-639-3505 From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 11:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: R: DNS Issue That verifies routing is good. Check the logs for your VPN device to see what’s happening to the http traffic. It’s likely being dropped or blocked. From: Bob Hartung [mailto:bhart...@wiscoind.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 10:39 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: R: DNS Issue Here's a sample trace... C:\>tracert win2k8-1 Tracing route to win2k8-1.wiscoind.local [172.16.1.6] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1<1 ms<1 ms<1 ms InstagateAL.wiscoind.local [172.17.1.2] 2 * ** Request timed out. 3 * ** Request timed out. 471 ms65 ms65 ms win2k8-1.wiscoind.local [172.16.1.6] ---------- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 10:37:01 -0500 Subject: RE: R: DNS Issue Tracert the IP and see where it’s routed. We have a separate LAN that connects via VPN and in order for the PCs to access exchange we placed a persistent route in the route tables that point all email traffic through the VPN. Thank you, _ Cameron Cooper System Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com From: Bob Hartung [mailto:bhart...@wiscoind.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 10:30 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: R: DNS Issue I answered to quick. When you say the routing, I'm not sure what you mean. The webserver's address is resolved through AD. And the individual subnets are sites in AD. ---------- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: HELP_PC [mailto:g...@enter.it] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 10:26:11 -0500 Subject: R: DNS Issue Is the routing distributed by the DHCP server ? GuidoElia HELPPC _ Da: Bob Hartung [mailto:bhart...@wiscoind.com] Inviato: martedì 15 marzo 2011 16.19 A: NT System Admin Issues Oggetto: DNS Issue I have two locations connected via VPN. The main location LAN is 172.16.x.x and the remote location is 172.17.x.x. I'd like users on the 172.17.x.x end to access a webserver on the 172.16.x.x end but it doesn't work and I'm not sure why. The users at the 172.17.x.x end have their Win2003 server as their DNS server. I can ping both the webserver's name and IP address from the 172.17.x.x PCs without problem. The webserver's name resolves to the IP address. All our servers and users are members of a single domain, just on different subnets. What am I missing? -- Bob Hartung
Re: DNS Issue
We use a couple of Instagates (eSoft) for VPN. Looking at the VPN rules, they indicate "All services" are allowed. I suspect the issue is related to rules as well. I've got a call into eSoft tech support. I'll update when I find out more. Thanks. ---------- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 10:59:56 -0500 Subject: Re: DNS Issue I'd be sure to verify what ports are being allowed through your VPN. What is your VPN? On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Bob Hartung wrote: I've tried entering both the name and IP address of the webserver and get connection fail in Internet Explorer. In FireFox, the error is "Unable to determine IP address from host name." Telnet gets a "connect failed." -- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 10:35:12 -0500 Subject: Re: DNS Issue On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Bob Hartung wrote: > I'd like users on the 172.17.x.x end to access a webserver on the 172.16.x.x > end but it doesn't work and I'm not sure why. Explain "doesn't work". Error message, timeout, what? What are you entering as the URL -- name or IP address? If only one, try the other. Have you tried a non-MSIE browser (MSIE tends to give the same error message for everything)? On a client, open a command prompt, and do TELNET WebServerName 80 If you get a connection, type: GET / and hit ENTER twice (blank line). If name resolution fails, try by IP address, see if that makes a difference. > I can ping both the webserver's name and IP address from the > 172.17.x.x PCs without problem. What about NSLOOKUP? -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: DNS Issue
Telnet fails with both name and ip address. NSLOOKUP resolves the name correctly. FireFox gets "The requested URL could not be retrieved" when the ip address is entered. ------ Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 10:56:02 -0500 Subject: Re: DNS Issue On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Bob Hartung wrote: > I've tried entering both the name and IP address of the webserver and get > connection fail in Internet Explorer. In FireFox, the error is "Unable to > determine IP address from host name." The Firefox error indicates a problem with name resolution. What if you try by IP address in Firefox? > Telnet gets a "connect failed." By IP address, hostname, or both? And: >> I can ping both the webserver's name and IP address from the >> 172.17.x.x PCs without problem. > > What about NSLOOKUP? -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: R: DNS Issue
I added the webserver to the hosts file and get "Internet Explorerr cannot display the webpage." ------ Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 10:54:39 -0500 Subject: RE: R: DNS Issue Try adding the IP of the webserver to the Hosts file. Thank you, _ Cameron Cooper System Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com From: HELP_PC [mailto:g...@enter.it] Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 10:46 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: R: R: DNS Issue Trace through IP and see the difference GuidoElia HELPPC _ Da: Bob Hartung [mailto:bhart...@wiscoind.com] Inviato: martedì 15 marzo 2011 16.39 A: NT System Admin Issues Oggetto: RE: R: DNS Issue Here's a sample trace... C:\>tracert win2k8-1 Tracing route to win2k8-1.wiscoind.local [172.16.1.6] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1<1 ms<1 ms<1 ms InstagateAL.wiscoind.local [172.17.1.2] 2 *** Request timed out. 3 *** Request timed out. 471 ms65 ms65 ms win2k8-1.wiscoind.local [172.16.1.6] ------ Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 10:37:01 -0500 Subject: RE: R: DNS Issue Tracert the IP and see where it’s routed. We have a separate LAN that connects via VPN and in order for the PCs to access exchange we placed a persistent route in the route tables that point all email traffic through the VPN. Thank you, _ Cameron Cooper System Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com From: Bob Hartung [mailto:bhart...@wiscoind.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 10:30 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: R: DNS Issue I answered to quick. When you say the routing, I'm not sure what you mean. The webserver's address is resolved through AD. And the individual subnets are sites in AD. -- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: HELP_PC [mailto:g...@enter.it] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 10:26:11 -0500 Subject: R: DNS Issue Is the routing distributed by the DHCP server ? GuidoElia HELPPC _ Da: Bob Hartung [mailto:bhart...@wiscoind.com] Inviato: martedì 15 marzo 2011 16.19 A: NT System Admin Issues Oggetto: DNS Issue I have two locations connected via VPN. The main location LAN is 172.16.x.x and the remote location is 172.17.x.x. I'd like users on the 172.17.x.x end to access a webserver on the 172.16.x.x end but it doesn't work and I'm not sure why. The users at the 172.17.x.x end have their Win2003 server as their DNS server. I can ping both the webserver's name and IP address from the 172.17.x.x PCs without problem. The webserver's name resolves to the IP address. All our servers and users are members of a single domain, just on different subnets. What am I missing? -- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint se
Re: DNS Issue
I've tried entering both the name and IP address of the webserver and get connection fail in Internet Explorer. In FireFox, the error is "Unable to determine IP address from host name." Telnet gets a "connect failed." ------ Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 10:35:12 -0500 Subject: Re: DNS Issue On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Bob Hartung wrote: > I'd like users on the 172.17.x.x end to access a webserver on the 172.16.x.x > end but it doesn't work and I'm not sure why. Explain "doesn't work". Error message, timeout, what? What are you entering as the URL -- name or IP address? If only one, try the other. Have you tried a non-MSIE browser (MSIE tends to give the same error message for everything)? On a client, open a command prompt, and do TELNET WebServerName 80 If you get a connection, type: GET / and hit ENTER twice (blank line). If name resolution fails, try by IP address, see if that makes a difference. > I can ping both the webserver's name and IP address from the > 172.17.x.x PCs without problem. What about NSLOOKUP? -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: R: R: DNS Issue
Tracert to 172.16.1.6 gets the same result. -- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: HELP_PC [mailto:g...@enter.it] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 10:45:46 -0500 Subject: R: R: DNS Issue Trace through IP and see the difference GuidoElia HELPPC _ Da: Bob Hartung [mailto:bhart...@wiscoind.com] Inviato: martedì 15 marzo 2011 16.39 A: NT System Admin Issues Oggetto: RE: R: DNS Issue Here's a sample trace... C:\>tracert win2k8-1 Tracing route to win2k8-1.wiscoind.local [172.16.1.6] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1<1 ms<1 ms<1 ms InstagateAL.wiscoind.local [172.17.1.2] 2 * ** Request timed out. 3 * ** Request timed out. 471 ms65 ms65 ms win2k8-1.wiscoind.local [172.16.1.6] -------------- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 10:37:01 -0500 Subject: RE: R: DNS Issue Tracert the IP and see where it’s routed. We have a separate LAN that connects via VPN and in order for the PCs to access exchange we placed a persistent route in the route tables that point all email traffic through the VPN. Thank you, _ Cameron Cooper System Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com From: Bob Hartung [mailto:bhart...@wiscoind.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 10:30 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: R: DNS Issue I answered to quick. When you say the routing, I'm not sure what you mean. The webserver's address is resolved through AD. And the individual subnets are sites in AD. ------ Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: HELP_PC [mailto:g...@enter.it] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 10:26:11 -0500 Subject: R: DNS Issue Is the routing distributed by the DHCP server ? GuidoElia HELPPC _ Da: Bob Hartung [mailto:bhart...@wiscoind.com] Inviato: martedì 15 marzo 2011 16.19 A: NT System Admin Issues Oggetto: DNS Issue I have two locations connected via VPN. The main location LAN is 172.16.x.x and the remote location is 172.17.x.x. I'd like users on the 172.17.x.x end to access a webserver on the 172.16.x.x end but it doesn't work and I'm not sure why. The users at the 172.17.x.x end have their Win2003 server as their DNS server. I can ping both the webserver's name and IP address from the 172.17.x.x PCs without problem. The webserver's name resolves to the IP address. All our servers and users are members of a single domain, just on different subnets. What am I missing? -- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that IS
RE: R: DNS Issue
Here's a sample trace... C:\>tracert win2k8-1 Tracing route to win2k8-1.wiscoind.local [172.16.1.6] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1<1 ms<1 ms<1 ms InstagateAL.wiscoind.local [172.17.1.2] 2 *** Request timed out. 3 *** Request timed out. 471 ms65 ms65 ms win2k8-1.wiscoind.local [172.16.1.6] ---------- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 10:37:01 -0500 Subject: RE: R: DNS Issue Tracert the IP and see where it’s routed. We have a separate LAN that connects via VPN and in order for the PCs to access exchange we placed a persistent route in the route tables that point all email traffic through the VPN. Thank you, _ Cameron Cooper System Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com From: Bob Hartung [mailto:bhart...@wiscoind.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 10:30 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: R: DNS Issue I answered to quick. When you say the routing, I'm not sure what you mean. The webserver's address is resolved through AD. And the individual subnets are sites in AD. ------ Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: HELP_PC [mailto:g...@enter.it] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 10:26:11 -0500 Subject: R: DNS Issue Is the routing distributed by the DHCP server ? GuidoElia HELPPC _ Da: Bob Hartung [mailto:bhart...@wiscoind.com] Inviato: martedì 15 marzo 2011 16.19 A: NT System Admin Issues Oggetto: DNS Issue I have two locations connected via VPN. The main location LAN is 172.16.x.x and the remote location is 172.17.x.x. I'd like users on the 172.17.x.x end to access a webserver on the 172.16.x.x end but it doesn't work and I'm not sure why. The users at the 172.17.x.x end have their Win2003 server as their DNS server. I can ping both the webserver's name and IP address from the 172.17.x.x PCs without problem. The webserver's name resolves to the IP address. All our servers and users are members of a single domain, just on different subnets. What am I missing? -- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: R: DNS Issue
I answered to quick. When you say the routing, I'm not sure what you mean. The webserver's address is resolved through AD. And the individual subnets are sites in AD. ------ Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: HELP_PC [mailto:g...@enter.it] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 10:26:11 -0500 Subject: R: DNS Issue Is the routing distributed by the DHCP server ? GuidoElia HELPPC _ Da: Bob Hartung [mailto:bhart...@wiscoind.com] Inviato: martedì 15 marzo 2011 16.19 A: NT System Admin Issues Oggetto: DNS Issue I have two locations connected via VPN. The main location LAN is 172.16.x.x and the remote location is 172.17.x.x. I'd like users on the 172.17.x.x end to access a webserver on the 172.16.x.x end but it doesn't work and I'm not sure why. The users at the 172.17.x.x end have their Win2003 server as their DNS server. I can ping both the webserver's name and IP address from the 172.17.x.x PCs without problem. The webserver's name resolves to the IP address. All our servers and users are members of a single domain, just on different subnets. What am I missing? -- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: R: DNS Issue
Yes. -- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: HELP_PC [mailto:g...@enter.it] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 10:26:11 -0500 Subject: R: DNS Issue Is the routing distributed by the DHCP server ? GuidoElia HELPPC _ Da: Bob Hartung [mailto:bhart...@wiscoind.com] Inviato: martedì 15 marzo 2011 16.19 A: NT System Admin Issues Oggetto: DNS Issue I have two locations connected via VPN. The main location LAN is 172.16.x.x and the remote location is 172.17.x.x. I'd like users on the 172.17.x.x end to access a webserver on the 172.16.x.x end but it doesn't work and I'm not sure why. The users at the 172.17.x.x end have their Win2003 server as their DNS server. I can ping both the webserver's name and IP address from the 172.17.x.x PCs without problem. The webserver's name resolves to the IP address. All our servers and users are members of a single domain, just on different subnets. What am I missing? ------ Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
DNS Issue
I have two locations connected via VPN. The main location LAN is 172.16.x.x and the remote location is 172.17.x.x. I'd like users on the 172.17.x.x end to access a webserver on the 172.16.x.x end but it doesn't work and I'm not sure why. The users at the 172.17.x.x end have their Win2003 server as their DNS server. I can ping both the webserver's name and IP address from the 172.17.x.x PCs without problem. The webserver's name resolves to the IP address. All our servers and users are members of a single domain, just on different subnets. What am I missing? ------ Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: File Copier with GUI?
I use BeyondCompare ( www.scootersoftware.com ). It can do what you need and it's also an excellent synchronizing utility. Another possibility might be the backup software you're using. We use Arcserve and they have a Copy utility. Even if your backup software doesn't have that, I'm sure it could be used to restore what you need to copy by just selecting a new destination. ---------- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 15:06:23 -0600 Subject: Re: File Copier with GUI? And if the data changes, and you're trying to keep up with those changes, robocopy becomes the most efficient out of what's been suggested so far... On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Crawford, Scott wrote: Dir /ad will return only directories. I agree – the For /F option is ideal here. If you want something a little more permanent, create a batch file with ---robo.bat For /F %%i in (DirectoriesToCopy.txt) do robocopy /mir %%i %1 ---robo.bat To use it, run dir /ad/b > DirectoriesToCopy.txt, edit that to reflect just the files you want and then run robo.bat DESTINATION The only thing you do one-off is recreate the text file of directories. From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 21, 2011 2:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: File Copier with GUI? Note if your files don't have periods in them, dir *. /b will grab directories (and files without extensions). On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Jonathan Link wrote: You say subdirectories...as in directories under a folder... What's wrong with robocopy /mir ? Or grab a directory listing that's blank dir /b >directory.txt, filter the unneeded directories (and files) and use a for /f %f in (directory.txt) do robocopy X:\%f Y:\%f /mir , where X is the source drive and y: is the destination drive On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 3:20 PM, Paul Hutchings wrote: You know the scenario, you need to copy a few hundred gigs worth of specific sub directories from A to B. Robocopy is probably ideal but it’s a PITA to script all those folder paths for a one-time operation, and if you do a ctrl-select and set the copy off from Windows Explorer you can be pretty sure you’re going to walk in the next day to find it’s got a problem with a single file half way through so it’s cancelled the whole operation (with no real clue what and why it happened). So, what do you use? I’ve tried Rich Copy which looks great, but in reality it just doesn’t seem to work very well with multiple source folders. Thanks, Paul _ MIRA Ltd Watling Street, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, CV10 0TU, England Registered in England and Wales No. 402570 VAT Registration GB 100 1464 84 The contents of this e-mail are confidential and are solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you receive this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify us either by e-mail, telephone or fax. You should not copy, forward or otherwise disclose the content of the e-mail as this is prohibited. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
Copying user profiles in Windows 7
This is the first time I've had to setup a Windows 7 PC that would be used by a number of different users. I've done this on Window XP by using Computer - Properties - Advanced System - Profiles without problem But now I find out MS decided to disable it. I've searched for a method to work around this but so far I've not found anything that works. Anyone have a technique or utility that they could recommend? Thanks. ---------- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: XP PCs aren't connecting to WSUS Server
Thank you for clearing that up for me. It seemed logical to assume if you configured a PC to have the local WSUS server as its update source, launching Windows update from the start menu would go to the WSUS server. When it worked on a Win7 PC, I assumed that XP would behave the same. Once again logic takes a backseat to reality... I've scanned the "windowsupdate.log" files on a couple of the XP machines and found references to accessing the local WSUS server so the GPO settings have been successfully applied. Thanks again. ---------- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 16:11:06 -0600 Subject: Re: XP PCs aren't connecting to WSUS Server What do you mean by "manually launch Windows Update" ? Windows Update / Microsoft Update is just a website. On Vista/Win7, if you try to go there, you are redirected to open up the internal Windows Update applet (for lack of a better term), whether or not you have WSUS installed. Previous versions don't offer that option. ASB (Find me online via About.Me) Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage... On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Bob Hartung wrote: I've setup a WSUS Server 3.0 running on Windows 2008. I've setup an OU with WSUS GPO settings. So far, the Windows 7 PCs I've tested are successfully picking up the GPO settings and properly connecting to the WSUS server when I launch Windows Update manually on the PC. However, I'm not having the same results with XP PCs. They also are receiving the GPO settings (see below) but if I manually launch Windows Update on them, they continue to connect to Microsoft's Update website, not the WSUS server. Any suggestions on why they aren't connecting to the WSUS server? Thanks. WSUS Client Diagnostics Tool Checking Machine State Checking for admin rights to run tool . . . . . . . . . PASS Automatic Updates Service is running. . . . . . . . . . PASS Background Intelligent Transfer Service is running. . . PASS Wuaueng.dll version 7.4.7600.226. . . . . . . . . . . . PASS This version is WSUS 2.0 Checking AU Settings AU Option is 3 : Notify Prior to Install. . . . . . . . PASS Option is from Policy settings Checking Proxy Configuration Checking for winhttp local machine Proxy settings . . . PASS Winhttp local machine access type Winhttp local machine Proxy. . . . . . . . . . NONE Winhttp local machine ProxyBypass. . . . . . . NONE Checking User IE Proxy settings . . . . . . . . . . . . PASS User IE Proxy. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . NONE User IE ProxyByPass. . . . . . . . . . . . . . NONE User IE AutoConfig URL Proxy . . . . . . . . . NONE User IE AutoDetect AutoDetect in use Checking Connection to WSUS/SUS Server WUServer = http://win2k8-1 WUStatusServer = http://win2k8-1 UseWuServer is enabled. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . PASS Connection to server. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . PASS SelfUpdate folder is present. . . . . . . . . . . . . . PASS -- Bob Hartung ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
XP PCs aren't connecting to WSUS Server
I've setup a WSUS Server 3.0 running on Windows 2008. I've setup an OU with WSUS GPO settings. So far, the Windows 7 PCs I've tested are successfully picking up the GPO settings and properly connecting to the WSUS server when I launch Windows Update manually on the PC. However, I'm not having the same results with XP PCs. They also are receiving the GPO settings (see below) but if I manually launch Windows Update on them, they continue to connect to Microsoft's Update website, not the WSUS server. Any suggestions on why they aren't connecting to the WSUS server? Thanks. WSUS Client Diagnostics Tool Checking Machine State Checking for admin rights to run tool . . . . . . . . . PASS Automatic Updates Service is running. . . . . . . . . . PASS Background Intelligent Transfer Service is running. . . PASS Wuaueng.dll version 7.4.7600.226. . . . . . . . . . . . PASS This version is WSUS 2.0 Checking AU Settings AU Option is 3 : Notify Prior to Install. . . . . . . . PASS Option is from Policy settings Checking Proxy Configuration Checking for winhttp local machine Proxy settings . . . PASS Winhttp local machine access type Winhttp local machine Proxy. . . . . . . . . . NONE Winhttp local machine ProxyBypass. . . . . . . NONE Checking User IE Proxy settings . . . . . . . . . . . . PASS User IE Proxy. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . NONE User IE ProxyByPass. . . . . . . . . . . . . . NONE User IE AutoConfig URL Proxy . . . . . . . . . NONE User IE AutoDetect AutoDetect in use Checking Connection to WSUS/SUS Server WUServer = http://win2k8-1 WUStatusServer = http://win2k8-1 UseWuServer is enabled. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . PASS Connection to server. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . PASS SelfUpdate folder is present. . . . . . . . . . . . . . PASS -- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: ArcMail?
I'm running MailStore on a Win7 Pro PC. I've set it up to archive to its local hard drive but you could setup the archive to be any location. I backup the archive location every night. ------ Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 11:22:15 -0600 Subject: Re: ArcMail? I understand, but the free lacks this ability. Do you archive to a central storage location? Roger Wright ___ "The internet is a great way to get on the net." – Bob Dole On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Bob Hartung wrote: > I'm not sure if I understand what you mean by "auto-archiving". > > In MailStore, I've configured it to archive anything in the user's mailbox > (except Trash) every night. Every night, any e-mails that reach 2 years old > are removed from the mailserver (we use KerioMail). To me, that's as > automated as it gets. > > Granted, if Mailstore integrated directly into the mail client, that would > be great but it hasn't been a problem for our users. > > -- > > Bob Hartung > Wisco Industries, Inc. > 736 Janesville St. > Oregon, WI 53575 > Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 > Fax: (608) 835-7399 > e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com > > > From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] > To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] > Sent: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 10:38:23 -0600 > Subject: Re: ArcMail? > > I recently installed the freeware version of MailStore on my home box. > Looks pretty good, but it lacks auto-archiving and Outlook > integration. > > We have about 250 mailboxes, many PSTs (gotta get rid of those!), and > at least 350GB in the Exchange DB. > > > Roger Wright > ___ > > "The internet is a great way to get on the net." – Bob Dole > > > > > On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Bob Hartung wrote: >> I've been using MailStore ( www.mailstore.com ) for about 1.5 years and >> it's >> a great product. We have 75 e-mail accounts and we currently have 17.5 GB >> of >> archived storage. >> >> Users perform their own searches which are very fast using either the >> client >> software or web interface. >> >> Runs on Win2000 and above. Easy to administer. Relatively inexpensive. >> >> I've got it setup to automatically archive everything and delete e-mails >> from the mailserver that are older than 2 years. >> >> The only thing I can't address is how it scales to a large enterprise. >> >> -- >> >> Bob Hartung >> Wisco Industries, Inc. >> 736 Janesville St. >> Oregon, WI 53575 >> Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 >> Fax: (608) 835-7399 >> e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com >> >> >> From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] >> To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] >> Sent: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 08:42:33 -0600 >> Subject: Re: ArcMail? >> >> Not what I was hoping to hear, but I appreciate your candor. >> >> >> Roger Wright >> ___ >> >> "The internet is a great way to get on the net." – Bob Dole >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 11:43 PM, Ben N wrote: >>> oh yes.. years of experience. >>> my old company bought the biggest one they had. U3120 IIRC. It was great >>> that it wasn't a per user cost.. but the yearly maint fee for hardware >>> and >>> software support was alot of money. >>> Once you get it loaded with years of emails.. it can be VERY slow for >>> users.. like 5-10 minutes for a single search. it could be that way with >>> all >>> archive appliances though with millions of emails to search through. >>> it's tough to say one way or another. i guess you get what you pay for. >>> oh yeah the biggest problem is backup. be sure you have a ton of TBs to >>> back >>> it up. We were having issues with backup early on.. and then the 3ware >>> raid >>> controller corrupted our data... we lost data. :( We basically had to >>> redo >
Re: ArcMail?
I'm not sure if I understand what you mean by "auto-archiving". In MailStore, I've configured it to archive anything in the user's mailbox (except Trash) every night. Every night, any e-mails that reach 2 years old are removed from the mailserver (we use KerioMail). To me, that's as automated as it gets. Granted, if Mailstore integrated directly into the mail client, that would be great but it hasn't been a problem for our users. -- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 10:38:23 -0600 Subject: Re: ArcMail? I recently installed the freeware version of MailStore on my home box. Looks pretty good, but it lacks auto-archiving and Outlook integration. We have about 250 mailboxes, many PSTs (gotta get rid of those!), and at least 350GB in the Exchange DB. Roger Wright ___ "The internet is a great way to get on the net." – Bob Dole On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Bob Hartung wrote: > I've been using MailStore ( www.mailstore.com ) for about 1.5 years and it's > a great product. We have 75 e-mail accounts and we currently have 17.5 GB of > archived storage. > > Users perform their own searches which are very fast using either the client > software or web interface. > > Runs on Win2000 and above. Easy to administer. Relatively inexpensive. > > I've got it setup to automatically archive everything and delete e-mails > from the mailserver that are older than 2 years. > > The only thing I can't address is how it scales to a large enterprise. > > -- > > Bob Hartung > Wisco Industries, Inc. > 736 Janesville St. > Oregon, WI 53575 > Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 > Fax: (608) 835-7399 > e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com > > > From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] > To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] > Sent: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 08:42:33 -0600 > Subject: Re: ArcMail? > > Not what I was hoping to hear, but I appreciate your candor. > > > Roger Wright > ___ > > "The internet is a great way to get on the net." – Bob Dole > > > > > On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 11:43 PM, Ben N wrote: >> oh yes.. years of experience. >> my old company bought the biggest one they had. U3120 IIRC. It was great >> that it wasn't a per user cost.. but the yearly maint fee for hardware and >> software support was alot of money. >> Once you get it loaded with years of emails.. it can be VERY slow for >> users.. like 5-10 minutes for a single search. it could be that way with >> all >> archive appliances though with millions of emails to search through. >> it's tough to say one way or another. i guess you get what you pay for. >> oh yeah the biggest problem is backup. be sure you have a ton of TBs to >> back >> it up. We were having issues with backup early on.. and then the 3ware >> raid >> controller corrupted our data... we lost data. :( We basically had to redo >> an import back from exchange to start over. I think they took steps though >> to make sure this didn't happen. it was a problem with 3ware and not their >> software. >> I don't think you'll be able to beat the price.. be sure you like that web >> interface :) Sorry to be so brief and all over the place. Let me know if >> you >> have any more questions. We bought it in 2008, and they still have it. But >> i >> think my old boss is ready to dump it because its so slow and backup is >> such >> a burden. >> On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 12:49 PM, Roger Wright wrote: >>> >>> Had a luncheon demo today of the email archiving system from ArcMail. >>> I was quite impressed with the ease of setup and usability. >>> >>> Anyone have experience with the ArcMail appliances or company? >>> >>> www.arcmail.com >>> >>> >>> Roger Wright >>> ___ >>> >>> "The internet is a great way to get on the net." – Bob Dole >>> >>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ >>> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ >>> >>> --- >>
Re: ArcMail?
I've been using MailStore ( www.mailstore.com ) for about 1.5 years and it's a great product. We have 75 e-mail accounts and we currently have 17.5 GB of archived storage. Users perform their own searches which are very fast using either the client software or web interface. Runs on Win2000 and above. Easy to administer. Relatively inexpensive. I've got it setup to automatically archive everything and delete e-mails from the mailserver that are older than 2 years. The only thing I can't address is how it scales to a large enterprise. ---------- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 08:42:33 -0600 Subject: Re: ArcMail? Not what I was hoping to hear, but I appreciate your candor. Roger Wright ___ "The internet is a great way to get on the net." – Bob Dole On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 11:43 PM, Ben N wrote: > oh yes.. years of experience. > my old company bought the biggest one they had. U3120 IIRC. It was great > that it wasn't a per user cost.. but the yearly maint fee for hardware and > software support was alot of money. > Once you get it loaded with years of emails.. it can be VERY slow for > users.. like 5-10 minutes for a single search. it could be that way with all > archive appliances though with millions of emails to search through. > it's tough to say one way or another. i guess you get what you pay for. > oh yeah the biggest problem is backup. be sure you have a ton of TBs to back > it up. We were having issues with backup early on.. and then the 3ware raid > controller corrupted our data... we lost data. :( We basically had to redo > an import back from exchange to start over. I think they took steps though > to make sure this didn't happen. it was a problem with 3ware and not their > software. > I don't think you'll be able to beat the price.. be sure you like that web > interface :) Sorry to be so brief and all over the place. Let me know if you > have any more questions. We bought it in 2008, and they still have it. But i > think my old boss is ready to dump it because its so slow and backup is such > a burden. > On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 12:49 PM, Roger Wright wrote: >> >> Had a luncheon demo today of the email archiving system from ArcMail. >> I was quite impressed with the ease of setup and usability. >> >> Anyone have experience with the ArcMail appliances or company? >> >> www.arcmail.com >> >> >> Roger Wright >> ___ >> >> "The internet is a great way to get on the net." – Bob Dole >> >> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ >> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ >> >> --- >> To manage subscriptions click here: >> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ >> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com >> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin >> > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: [OT] Superbowl
Packers: 31 Steelers: 25 Nuff said. -- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Randall [mailto:yuhro...@verizon.net] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Fri, 04 Feb 2011 15:47:46 -0600 Subject: Re: [OT] Superbowl Just a rebuff from a proud Steelers fan 1. A Steelers fan and a Packers fan get shipwrecked on an island and some natives take them to their king. At first, the king plans to execute them, then, he decides to grant them one wish, twenty lashes on the back, and let them go. The Packers fan wishes for a pillow strapped to his back. It doesn’t hold well during the whipping and broke after 5 whips, leaving 15 painful marks on his back. When it was the Steelers fan’s turn though, a smile came across his face. “I wish for 300 lashes,” stated the Steelers fan. The king thought the Steelers fan was being very brave and noble, so he gave him another wish. “I wish the Packers fan was strapped to my back!” said the Steeler fan ! 2. A first grade teacher explains to her class that she is a Cheesehead. She asks her students to raise their hands if they are Cheeseheads too. No one really knowing what a Cheesehead was, but wanting to be like their teacher, their hands explode into the air like flashy fireworks. There is, however, one exception. A girl named Kristen who has not gone along with the crowd. The teacher asks her why she has decided to be different. “Because I’m not a Cheesehead.” “Then”, asks the teacher, “what are you?” “Why, I’m a proud Steelers Fan,” boasts the little girl. The teacher is a little perturbed now, her face slightly red. She asks Kristen why she is a rebel. “Well, my mom and dad are Steelers Fans, so I’m a Steelers Fan too.” The teacher is now angry. “That’s no reason,” she says loudly. “What if your mom was a moron, and your dad was a moron. What would you be then?” A pause, and a smile. “Then,” says Kristen, “I’d be a Cheesehead” 3. Aaron Rogers walks into his bedroom with a sheep under his arm and says..."Darling, this is the pig I have sex with when you have headaches." His wife is lying in bed and replies..."I think you'll find that's a sheep, you idiot." Aaron says..."I think you'll find that I wasn't talking to you." 4. You know you are a Packer fan when the Halloween pumpkin on your porch has more teeth than your spouse. 5.You know you are a Packer fan when you've been married three times and still have the same in-laws. 6.You know you are a Packer fan when you wonder how service stations keep their restrooms so clean. 7.You know you are a Packer fan when your wife's hairdo was once ruined by a ceiling fan. 8.You know you are a Packer fan if your junior prom had a daycare. 9.You know you are a Packer fan if you think loading a dishwasher means getting your wife drunk. 10.You know you are a Packer fan if your front porch collapses and kills more than five dogs. Q: What is the difference between a Packer fan and a baby? A: The baby will stop whining after awhile. Q: What do you call a 350 pound Packer fan? A: An anorexic! Q: What do you call a beautiful girl in Green Bay? A: A tourist. Q: What do you call a good looking woman with a Packer fan? A: A hostage Q: Why do Packer fans smell so bad? A: So blind people can hate them as well. Q: What’s the difference between a porcupine and Lambeau Field? A: The pricks are on the outside of a porcupine. Q: How do you circumcise a Packer Fan? A: Kick his sister in the mouth Q: Why does Lambeau Field have the new hybrid turf? A: To keep the fans from grazing during the game. Q: What do you say to a drunken alcoholic pervert who is passed out on your car after a Packer game? A: “May I have your autograph Mr. Favre?” Q: What doe’s a Tampon and the packers have in common? A: Only good for one period and they don’t have a second string!! On the eve of a Sunday kickoff, this old Green Bay Packer fan couple went to bed at the Super 8 on Oneida street- just a mile or so away from Lambeau. The old guy farted and yelled out "7". The old lady said what was that. He said he got a touchdown. I'm playing Fart Football. The old lady farted and yelled 7-7. The old man farted again 14-7. The old lady farted again tied 14-14. The old lady sqeeked a little fart 17-14. The old man said what was that? She replied, "I just kicked a field goal". The old man layed there trying to push out another fart. He pushed so hard he shit the bed. The old lady said what was that? The old man replied
[OT] Superbowl
Ben Rothelisberger, after living a full life, died. When he got to heaven, God was showing him around. They came to a modest little house with a faded Steelers flag in the window. "This house is yours for eternity, Ben," said God. "This is very special; not everyone gets a house up here." Ben felt special, indeed, and walked up to his house. On his way up the porch, he noticed another house just around the corner. It was a 3-story mansion with a GREEN & 24k GOLD sidewalk, a 50-foot tall flagpole with an enormous silk PACKERS flag, and in every window, a CHEESEHEAD. Ben looked at God and said "God, I'm not trying to be ungrateful but I have a question. I was an all-pro QB, I hold many NFL records, and I even won a Super Bowl." God said "So what's your point, Ben?" "Well, why does Aaron Rodgers get a better house than I do ?" God chuckled, and said: "Ben, that's not Aaron's house...... ....it's Mine." GO PACKERS ! -- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: WSUS - XP Clients not getting GPO settings
Thanks. I've been experimenting and I've narrowed things down. To establish that GPO settings are getting passed down from the domain controller to the PCs, I selected a setting I figured was old and probably present back to WinXP. I selected "Remove the Desktop Cleanup Wizard" in "User Configuration - Administrative Templates - Desktop" I enabled this and then went to both XP and Win7 PCs in the OU and executed gpupdate /force and rsop.msc. This setting reliably could be turned on and off without problem. However, when I enabled "Specify intranet Microsoft update service location" in "Computer Configuration - Administrative Templates - Windows Update", the setting would not appear on either XP or Win7 PCs that worked with the Desktop Cleanup Wizard. Based on this, I have to believe that I have an issue with my version of Active Directory. Our Domain Controller is running Windows 2003 R2 Std. SP2. I checked and HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\NTDS\Parameters\System Schema Version = 31. This corresponds with Windows 2003 R2. I'm confused. Why would the WSUS GPOs be available to configure on our domain controller and yet not be propogated out to the member PCs? -- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Tue, 01 Feb 2011 15:31:05 -0600 Subject: Re: WSUS - XP Clients not getting GPO settings On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Bob Hartung wrote: > When I setup XP PCs to get the WSUS GPO config, they continue to access the > MS Windows Update website. Use GPRESULT (CLI) or RSOP.MSC (GUI) to make sure the policy is actually applying properly. This applies even for the machine-local GPO. Check C:\Windows\WindowsUpdate.log for clues. > Am I missing some kind of optional Windows XP update to make this work? We don't have to install anything special to get XP SP3 to honor our WSUS GPO. The GPO settings we use are: Computer Config -> Admin Templates -> Windows Components -> Windows Update Config Auto Updates = Enabled, 4 (Auto download & schedule install), 0 (Every day), 4:00 AM Specify intranet service location = Enabled, http://foo [where "foo" is the name of our WSUS server] Reschedule installs = 60 minutes No auto-restart = Disabled Auto Update detect freq = 22 hours Allow immediate install = Enabled -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
WSUS - XP Clients not getting GPO settings
I'm testing WSUS 3.0 but I'm having a problem getting XP clients to use the WSUS server instead of MS Updates. I believe I have the WSUS server setup correctly since Windows 7 PCs are getting the GPO update to use the WSUS server and they are seeing the updates offered on the WSUS server. When I setup XP PCs to get the WSUS GPO config, they continue to access the MS Windows Update website. Another thing I've tried is using the local policy to configure the redirect to the WSUS server. If I do this on a Windows 7 PC, it works. If I do the same thing on a Windows XP PC, it doesn't. All the XP Pcs are SP3. Am I missing some kind of optional Windows XP update to make this work? ---------- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: GFI LanGuard
I read through the document and I'm clear on what LanGuard can do that WSUS can't; NT Updates, MS Office, MS SQL, MS Exchange and MS ISA and 3rd party updates. The documentation says that LanGuard can scan and identify missing MS patches on PCs and the ability to "the missing service pack or patch to that computer or all computers." Is the difference then that WSUS is setup to automatically deploy patches and service packs un-attended while LanGuard would require you to scan and then manually select which missing patches to deploy and where? If so, then to follow this to the extreme, if WSUS wasn't being used, GFI LanGuard could install all MS patches but it would require a lot of manual picking and choosing? ------ Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 10:22:19 -0600 Subject: RE: GFI LanGuard Which takes 10 pages to say what I did in 3 sentences. J J J Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 11:17 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: GFI LanGuard http://www.gfi.com/whitepapers/patch-management.pdf Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://dabcc.com/Webster From: Bob Hartung [mailto:bhart...@wiscoind.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 10:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: GFI LanGuard In researching WSUS, I noticed that GFI has a security product, LanGuard, that has an component that supports Windows updates as well as 3rd party updates. I'm a little unclear on the Windows updates part of LanGuard's capability. On one hand, it says it does deploy windows updates but on the other hand it says it's supposed to be used in conjunction with WSUS. I though Microsoft had taken legal action against software that deployed Microsoft patches to stop them.. Anyone using LanGuard care to share what they know about this? Thanks. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
GFI LanGuard
In researching WSUS, I noticed that GFI has a security product, LanGuard, that has an component that supports Windows updates as well as 3rd party updates. I'm a little unclear on the Windows updates part of LanGuard's capability. On one hand, it says it does deploy windows updates but on the other hand it says it's supposed to be used in conjunction with WSUS. I though Microsoft had taken legal action against software that deployed Microsoft patches to stop them.. Anyone using LanGuard care to share what they know about this? Thanks. ---------- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Windows Updates
I always appreciate real world confirmation. Thanks. -- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 09:45:25 -0600 Subject: RE: Windows Updates +1 We have one WSUS server and 11 remote sites, some of which are VPN @ 5Mb Full Duplex, and others are a mix of RF non line-of-sight wireless, dark fiber, and Free Space Optics. We push updates to over 500 nodes with one server. Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE Technology Coordinator Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA www.eaglemds.com jra...@eaglemds.com From: Kelli Sterley [kjsterley.li...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 10:36 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Windows Updates That's exactly what I would do. You can push all the settings thru GP. Kelli On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Bob Hartung mailto:bhart...@wiscoind.com>> wrote: I'm interested in implementing a centralized Windows Update system. We have 3 geographically separated locations, a main location and 2 smaller locations. Each has it's own subnet and each is connected to the main location. One is connected via the Internet through a VPN and the other is connected by 36 MB wireless bridges. Main location: 11 servers and 82 PCs. (Internet connection: 10 MB x 5 Mb cable modem) VPN Location: 1 server and 8 PCs. (Internet connection: 3 MB x 1 MB DSL) Wireless Bridge Location: 1 server and 19 PCs (Internet connection: Shares Main Location connection) Would I be able to implement this with a single Windows 2008 server running WSUS, storing updates locally for updating the Main and Wireless Bridge locations and WSUS to direct the computers at the VPN location to download and install updates directly from the Microsoft Update site? ---------- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com<http://wiscoind.com/> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com<mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com<mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Any medical information contained in this electronic message is CONFIDENTIAL and privileged. It is unlawful for unauthorized persons to view, copy, disclose, or disseminate CONFIDENTIAL information. This electronic message may contain information that is confidential and/or legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the individual(s) and/or entity named as recipients in the message. If you are not an intended recipient of this message, please notify the sender immediately and delete this material from your computer. Do not deliver, distribute or copy this message, and do not disclose its contents or take any action in reliance on the information that it contains. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Windows Updates
I'm interested in implementing a centralized Windows Update system. We have 3 geographically separated locations, a main location and 2 smaller locations. Each has it's own subnet and each is connected to the main location. One is connected via the Internet through a VPN and the other is connected by 36 MB wireless bridges. Main location: 11 servers and 82 PCs. (Internet connection: 10 MB x 5 Mb cable modem) VPN Location: 1 server and 8 PCs. (Internet connection: 3 MB x 1 MB DSL) Wireless Bridge Location: 1 server and 19 PCs (Internet connection: Shares Main Location connection) Would I be able to implement this with a single Windows 2008 server running WSUS, storing updates locally for updating the Main and Wireless Bridge locations and WSUS to direct the computers at the VPN location to download and install updates directly from the Microsoft Update site? ------ Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Wake on LAN options
I use VNC Manager from SmartCode for my remote management ( www.s-code.com). It capable of doing a lot of admin tasks, one of them being Wake-on-LAN. Basic version costs $42. Has utility to scan your network for IP addresses and MAC addresses. You can save that info for use with WOL. You can wake one PC or as many as you highlight. VNC on the PC is not required for this to work. So far, any PC I have that supports WOL works with VNC Mgr. -- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 08:23:44 -0600 Subject: Wake on LAN options Folks, For those of you using wake-on lan, which product do you use? Our workstation management product is a Dell KACE Kbox, which works well, but the wake on lan doesn't have any features other than "on". I recall seeing some comments on other products (perhaps not on this list). I'd like to wake up PCs, run scans, updates before staff arrive. It would be nice if there were some sort of agent product where I don't have to reconfigure my infrastructure for wake-on-lan. Tom Miller Engineer, Information Technology Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board 757-788-0528 Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Office help
An alternative would be to use a product like PDF Typewriter. It allows you to create a PDF with fields that can be filled in. Costs $30. Website: www.ctdeveloping.com -- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: C.E. Gene Connor [mailto:cege...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 10:32:37 -0600 Subject: Office help My "beauty-full & loving " wife does a lot of free doc's for low income people like contracts,divorce's,child support & custody . Question #1 We use office pro 2003 suit. The problem is when they take them to a place for them to get filled in! They say they can't open them up in a newer version of word? I did a search for answers and didn't quite understand how to fix this for her and them. I did however find this http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyId=941B3470-3AE9-4AEE-8F43-C6BB74CD1466&displaylang=en Is this fix suppose to be installed on the newer machine "ones that fill them in"or on her system? Like I said it is the wifes system and I don't want to screw it up! since most of your kids know more about office then I do. Qusetion # 2 Some of the times she gets sent back from a place a pdf file. I have installed foxit for her. for can't see buying a copy of adobe just to be able to edit & design pdf's for whatever the case may be. What do you all recommend as a free or low priced pdf editor. Side note: the comment about my wife. Yes, I'm know for openly stating I worship the ground she walks on. And still can't figure out how she puts up with my a$$holeism's ways etc. -- Gene C. Misc. B.S. http://genec-lori.com/ PackRat GarageSale http://genec-lori.biz/ Genes-Computers Inc. Yulee ,Fl Established 1981, Microsoft OEM Registered member, system builder & Active registered Microsoft Partner Active Charter Partner of The Association of System Builders and Integrators If you think you're beaten, Then you are! If you give up the fight, Accept it !! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: BGINFO
I use BGINFO the same way on my servers. I run it with a scheduled task daily so the diskspace available on local drives is always up to date. Having all the system info on the desktop is very handy and often saves having to run several utilities to get the same info. I also have it setup that when I remote into a users PC, logging in as the administrator, I get all the system info on that desktop. -- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Terry Dickson [mailto:te...@treasurer.state.ks.us] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 15:59:59 -0600 Subject: RE: BGINFO Well I can think of several things, on some of my servers I have it running on startup for the administrator login. That way the info is right there on the desktop for us to easily see. On others it is not on the desktop but I can easily run it when I want to from the menu. -Original Message- From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:angu...@geoapps.com] Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2010 3:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: BGINFO On 27 Nov 2010 at 9:06, Gavin Wilby wrote: > I really love this little app, and have started to deploy it to > desktops - it makes life a whole lot easier. What do you do with it on the desktops? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail and any attachments are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you do not have permission to disclose, copy, distribute, or open any attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by returning it to the sender and delete this copy from your system. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Windows 7 Password Reset
My boss brought in his 10 year old daughter's Dell Laptop (Windows 7 Home). Seems her password isn't working. I asked her if she had downloaded any "free" software prior to the login problem but she said no. Any, can anyone recommend a good password reset utility? Thanks. ---------- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Front-End/Report Utility for MySQL
I have setup MySQL for a couple of departments. Up till now they have used Open Office Base to access the MySQL databases and the very simple reports that can be created in Base were adequate but now they need something more robust. I've been trying out Navicat and it's ok. I'd appreciate any recommendation on other MySQL front-ends. Thanks. ---------- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Editing Office Files from Outlook
I believe attachments are first saved to a temporary file directory. Unless you save what you've done to a different location, it's toast. ------ Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thu, 02 Dec 2010 15:02:35 -0600 Subject: Editing Office Files from Outlook I occasionally have users who receive Word or Excel attachments, open them, make edits, and save, only to discover all their changes are lost when they reopen the attachment. The problem is, sometimes opening and editing within Outlook sometimes works, but most often, not. I’ve explained several times that the best way to avoid this is to first save the attachment elsewhere and THEN open it for editing. Why is it that sometimes they’re able to make the edits without difficulty and others, all changes are lost? Is it that when it does work it’s only due to an anomaly and is an unsupported feature? Roger Wright ___ Life isn't like a box of chocolates. It's more like a jar of jalapenos: what you do today might burn your butt tomorrow. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: PC Memory
That's my situation as well. I can remember one time ordering memory for several different PCs from a source and I couldn't even figure out which memory was for what system. The memory just had a part number on it that didn't match up with the part number on the order. I had to call them and ask them which was which. ---------- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Fri, 05 Nov 2010 08:08:38 -0500 Subject: RE: PC Memory +1 I often end up with memory with no clear identifier.In some cases, it’s from a generic system that I’m looking to upgrade memory for, in others, I find the memory in my parts drawer properly wrapped, but no manufacturer indication of memory type/capacity/etc … Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, & Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 9:04 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: PC Memory No I think he's trying to figure out after the fact. _ From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:mblackst...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 8:02 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: PC Memory Most of the major mfgs have a configurator page. I like the Crucial one best. From: Bob Hartung [mailto:bhart...@wiscoind.com] Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 5:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: PC Memory The subject of Dell vs Kingston memory reminded me of something that's always frustrated me about computer memory and that's figuring out how to identify what a memory chip is and what it would work in. Some memory suppliers are good about putting ID stickers on the memory so you have some idea of what you have but more often than not, they don't. I'd like to be able to take a memory module and have some way of identifying the amount of RAM, speed, compatibility. Is there a reference or website that has information like that? -- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
PC Memory
The subject of Dell vs Kingston memory reminded me of something that's always frustrated me about computer memory and that's figuring out how to identify what a memory chip is and what it would work in. Some memory suppliers are good about putting ID stickers on the memory so you have some idea of what you have but more often than not, they don't. I'd like to be able to take a memory module and have some way of identifying the amount of RAM, speed, compatibility. Is there a reference or website that has information like that? ---------- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Replacing drive in Raid 1 (+ 0)
Try removing the drive and then plugging it back in. I've had Dell RAIDs report a failed drive but re-seating the drive resolves the issue. I think what happens is that over time the contacts develop a little oxide and the connections weakens. Re-seating the drive scrapes off the oxide and the drive rebuilds and works fine. Same thing happens on network cables that are plugged in for years and then mysteriously stop working. Unplug/replug and the problem is fixed. ------ Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 16:05:15 -0500 Subject: RE: Replacing drive in Raid 1 (+ 0) +1 We’ve also re-scanned arrays (on HP, specifically) and seen the array come back as healthy with no errors – and run that way for years after the fact. Joe is right. It may be a false alarm. Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE Technology Coordinator Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA jra...@eaglemds.com www.eaglemds.com _ From: Louis, Joe [mailto:jlo...@guardianalarm.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 4:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Replacing drive in Raid 1 (+ 0) Did you mean DL instead of GL? I’ve been using DL 380s since G1. Most of the Proliants are similar. Cant say that I’ve ever seen one where the RAID 0+1 is in a box that doesn’t support hot swappable drives. It “should” be as simple as pulling the one going bad and putting the new one in. You shouldn’t have to bother with Smartstart. On Proliants, most of the Hot-swappable parts have purple handles. The HP Array control software would tell you exactly how it is configured and you can make your decision from there. If Insight says that the drive is going bad, it should already have marked it as such and the drive would have a red fault light on. If so, it would already be offline. The Windows event log will show degrading status entries. They are really good about those kinds of things and hyper sensitive for good reason. It might just need to be reseated. I’ve used drives for years after first identified with an alert. From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu] Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 4:32 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Replacing drive in Raid 1 (+ 0) Me thinks those are most likely hot swap drives. Make sure you’ve got a good backup, pull the failing drive, put new one in and the raid controller should automatically rebuild. No down time. From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 4:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Replacing drive in Raid 1 (+ 0) I have an HP GL380 G5 server with 2 drives for the OS, it's now telling me that drive 1 is about to fail! 2 months after the end of Warranty! I'm ordering a new drive but how do I replace it? Do I have to shut down and start with SmartStart go to ACU and split the Array or do I simply shut down replace the drive and re-start? - - Stefan Jafs ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin _ Any medical information contained in this electronic message is CONFIDENTIAL and privileged. It is unlawful for unauthorized persons to view, copy, disclose, or disseminate CONFIDENTIAL information. This electronic message may contain information that is confidential and/or legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the individual(s) and/or entity named as recipients in the message. If you are not an intended recipient of this message, please notify the sender immediately and delete this material from yo
Deduplication and Tape Usage
We use Arcserve r15 for running our backups. Up till now, our nightly disk-to-disk-to-tape backup has fit on a single LTO3 tape but recently we've gone over that threshold and are using 2 tapes. I've been reading through the Arcserve manual and I can see that deduplication would shorten the backup window and reduce the amount of disk space needed to hold the nightly backup files. What's not clear to me is how deduplication would affect tape usage. Does deduplication flow through to the tape and reduce usage? ---------- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Bar Code Thermal Printing Ware
We've been using it for quite awhile. We have 10 licenses. Tech support is OK. Designing labels is pretty straight forward. I like that they have a print-only version of the software so end users are presented with a pretty simple interface. ------ Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 19:10:05 -0500 Subject: Bar Code Thermal Printing Ware Can anyone make a reco, I have several old seats I need to upgrade and consolidate into one app version so all the labels are compat. The newest I have is Teklynx I think, is that good stuff? Worth to go forward with? Thanks! jlc ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Speaking of Drobo ... (was: SAN question)
I don't believe your assumptions are correct. If you go to Drobo.com and use one of their capacity calculators (each model has a different one), your first example yields 5.91 TB of usable storage with single disk redundancy, not 2.5 TB. If you replace or add a disk, the Drobo will caution you that your data is not fully protected while it regenerates the Beyond RAID but the change in capacity is immediately available. Pretty cool. I read an article on Beyond RAID that conjectures how it works. http://etherealmind.com/drobo-how-beyond-raid-works/ Interesting reading but the author readily admits he's making an educated guess about a proprietary technology. ------ Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com _ From: Hilderbrand, Doug [mailto:doug.hilderbr...@craneaerospace.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Mon, 04 Oct 2010 20:16:23 -0500 Subject: RE: Speaking of Drobo ... (was: SAN question) As I understand it, a Drobo will intelligently use a combination of raid5 and mirroring. If you have one 500 GB, one 2 TB and two 1 TB drives, You’ll wind up with a 3 disk raid 5 across the two 1 TB and half of the 2 TB, plus a mirror of the 500 GB with half space the remaining on the 2 TB drive. 2 TB usable on raid 5 and 500 GB usable on mirror. 2.5 TB total. Pull the 500 GB and put in a 2 TB and it will do a 4 disk raid 5 and a mirror of the remaining 1 GB on each of the large drives. 3 TB usable on raid 5 and 1 TB usable on mirror. 4 TB total. I have no idea how it manages to push the bits around to accomplish that. Or how raid 6 fits into the picture. From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 8:44 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Speaking of Drobo ... (was: SAN question) Pretty sure raid on the Drobo defined by the smallest drive in the array. So if you have 3 2TB drive and 1 1TB drive you will only get around 3TB of storage. _ From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com] Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 10:36 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Speaking of Drobo ... (was: SAN question) Ok, so it SEEMS like a really cool device, but I honestly haven’t looked at it seriously since the device first came out a couple of years ago. When I first looked at it, I was like, ok, now THAT’s COOL. However, after thinking about it some, it just seemed like some black magic under the covers to get their “BeyondRAID” to work. When I originally looked at it, I couldn’t find any technical detail on how the product *really* worked, as that was “proprietary” (understandably so, but still, how am I going to get comfortable with it as a sysadmin, especially at the price if I’m on a budget – it would be an expensive toy. Traditional RAID is just much more comforting to me. If you have a big issue with multiple drives of different sizes on a drobo unit, how is data recovery going to go for you? If the controller fails, and you don’t have a support agreement, you can’t just go on serversuply.com and get parts… Does anyone here have any experience with data recovery on a failed drobo, or for that matter, simply a failed drive within a drobo where you had drives of different sizes in the configuration? I know “backup, backup, backup”, but what if the backup doesn’t work (or the customer/end user didn’t heed your advice)? Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE Technology Coordinator Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA jra...@eaglemds.com www.eaglemds.com _ From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 11:16 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: SAN question +1 Going back to a previous comment of mine in another thread you started. Have you messed with OpenFiler, yet? You'll learn a lot. Also, based on your pretty low requirements, have you looked at the DroboElite? If it had been available when I started looking, I very well could've gone in this direction. As it is, I'm seriously considering it for backup duty. Storage for a backup server, and the ability to use it in a pinch if my EqualLogic goes down. On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle wrote: John - I do not believe that we can help you significantly with this question. In the end, it really doesn't matter what any of us think, because our environments are all different and unique. What works well and may be appropriate for any of us, may be a horrible fit for you and cause you nothing but heartburn and stress. However, I would tend to agree with Niles. If you're not ready for a SAN, don't spend the money on it now. You really need to have a serious sit-down with the vendors/sales engineers (notic
Tower Climbing
We have a pair of 70' towers that we have our wireless bridges mounted on. I think they're really tall. I'd never go up them. Then I see a video like this to put things in perspective. www.break.com/index/climbing-a-1786-tall-tower ---------- Bob Hartung Wisco Industries, Inc. 736 Janesville St. Oregon, WI 53575 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 Fax: (608) 835-7399 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin