[osol-discuss] Using Active Directory as name service
Hi guys, I thought I would look into moving from running 2 naming services (LDAP and AD) and transferring to AD. I see I have two options: 1) Setup the "NIS unix service on Windows" and use ldapclient to point to AD server. This looks a good solution which I see many people have tried, but the only downfall is I would lose the automount maps, which I can see how they can be import into AD. 2) Use the Solaris 11 nss_ad Naming Service module. This may work, but I have had no luck yet, so just wonder if any one has got it working yet, since Oracle Support and the internet does not have any information about it! I am using oracle.com doc site: http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E23824_01/html/821-1455/adsetup-10.html#scrolltoc - Setup Windows 2008 Server - After the following command krb5.conf is created and a machine is created in AD - #/usr/sbin/kclient -T ms_ad Starting client setup --- Setting up /etc/krb5/krb5.conf. Attempting to join 'SOLARIS' to the 'TEST1.INT' domain. Password for administra...@test1.int: Forest name found: test1.int Site name not found. Local DCs/GCs will not be discovered. Computer account 'SOLARIS' already exists in the 'TEST1.INT' domain. Do you wish to recreate this computer account ? [y/n]: y Would you like to delete any sub-object found for this computer account ? [y/n]: y Looking to see if the machine account contains other objects... Creating the machine account in AD via LDAP. Warning: unable to set smb domain, server and password information. Warning: unable to create DNS records for client. This could mean that 'testaw1.test1.int' is not included as a 'nameserver' in the /etc/resolv.conf file or some other type of error. --- Setup COMPLETE. # cat /etc/resolv.conf domaintest1.int searchtest1.int nameserver193.61.29.188 # tail /var/adm/messages Mar 20 17:19:00 solaris ksmb[3685]: [ID 390819 user.error] SMF initialization problem: entity not found Mar 20 17:19:00 solaris ksmb[3685]: [ID 537292 user.error] smb_setdomainprops: failed to set machine account password Mar 20 17:19:00 solaris kdyndns[3689]: [ID 380301 user.error] dyndns: secure update response code: operation refused: 5 Mar 20 17:19:00 solaris kdyndns[3689]: [ID 904790 user.error] dyndns: both non-secure and secure updates failed on all configured name servers Mar 20 17:19:00 solaris kdyndns[3689]: [ID 380301 user.error] dyndns: secure update response code: operation refused: 5 Mar 20 17:19:00 solaris kdyndns[3689]: [ID 904790 user.error] dyndns: both non-secure and secure updates failed on all configured name servers As always thanks, Andrew -- Andrew Watkins * Birkbeck College http://notallmicrosoft.blogspot.com/ ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] SASL support in sendmail
I know this is a Solaris 11 point, but I thought still good place to post questions just in cas ethe answer is out there. I thought I would set-up Solaris 11 version of Sendmail with AUTH SASL, but when I got to the final part, I get the error: # /usr/lib/sendmail -d0 -bt < /dev/null Version 8.14.5+Sun Compiled with: DNSMAP LDAPMAP LOG MAP_REGEX MATCHGECOS MILTER MIME7TO8 MIME8TO7 NAMED_BIND NDBM NETINET NETINET6 NETUNIX NEWDB NIS PIPELINING SCANF STARTTLS TCPWRAPPERS USERDB USE_LDAP_INIT XDEBUG Warning: Option: AuthMechanisms requires SASL support (-DSASL) Warning: Option: AuthOptions requires SASL support (-DSASL) But I thought that Solaris game with SASL? There is some old 2010 support docs which say download Cyrus SASL and sendmail and compile it yourself, but I was hoping to avoid this. Any comments? Thanks, Andrew ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] NFS Can not remove a property
Cindy, Thanks for that information and I am sure others will find it useful as well. Cheers, Andrew On 12/13/11 06:27 PM, Cindy Swearingen wrote: Hi Andrew, You can use the zfs set share to respecify property=value values or you can use the zfs -c set to remove the property values so you would need to specify rw= public=false, and so on. When using zfs -c set share, I found that peeling off one property=value at a time worked best. Recreating the share might be easier and rw is the default so you don't have to specify it. See zfs -c set share syntax below. We're working on share improvements that will make these operations easier. Thanks, Cindy # zfs create tank/cindy # zfs set share=name=cindy,path=/tank/cindy,prot=nfs,rw=*,public=true,log=global tank/cindy # zfs set sharenfs=on cindy # zfs set -c share=name=cindy,prot=nfs,log=global tank/cindy name=cindy,path=/tank/cindy,prot=nfs,public=true,sec=sys,rw=* # zfs set -c share=name=cindy,prot=nfs,sec=sys,rw=* tank/cindy name=cindy,path=/tank/cindy,prot=nfs,public=true,sec=sys # zfs set -c share=name=cindy,prot=nfs,public=true tank/cindy name=cindy,path=/tank/cindy,prot=nfs,sec=sys # zfs get share NAME PROPERTY VALUE SOURCE tank/cindy share name=cindy,path=/tank/cindy,prot=nfs,sec=sys local On 12/13/11 09:47, Andrew Watkins wrote: I know this is a Solaris 11 point, but I thought it would be still good to post strange behavior with Solaris 11. At least if anyone else notices it and to decide if it is a bug? # zfs set share=name=andrew,path=/dpool/andrew, prot=nfs,sec=sys,rw=*,public=true,log=global dpool/andrew name=andrew,path=/dpool/andrew,prot=nfs,sec=sys,rw=*,public=true,log=global # zfs set share=name=andrew,path=/dpool/andrew,prot=nfs,rw dpool/andrew name=andrew,path=/dpool/andrew,prot=nfs,sec=sys,rw=*,public=true,log=global It does not remove the none specified items, so how do I remove/reset a setting? zfs get share NAME PROPERTY VALUE SOURCE dpool/andrew share name=andrew,path=/dpool/andrew,prot=nfs,public=true,log=global,sec=sys,rw=* local In the end I did a remove share and recreated it! Any thoughts on how to remove a property of a share? Cheers, Andrew ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org -- Andrew Watkins * Birkbeck College http://notallmicrosoft.blogspot.com/ ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] NFS Can not remove a property
I know this is a Solaris 11 point, but I thought it would be still good to post strange behavior with Solaris 11. At least if anyone else notices it and to decide if it is a bug? # zfs set share=name=andrew,path=/dpool/andrew, prot=nfs,sec=sys,rw=*,public=true,log=global dpool/andrew name=andrew,path=/dpool/andrew,prot=nfs,sec=sys,rw=*,public=true,log=global # zfs set share=name=andrew,path=/dpool/andrew,prot=nfs,rw dpool/andrew name=andrew,path=/dpool/andrew,prot=nfs,sec=sys,rw=*,public=true,log=global It does not remove the none specified items, so how do I remove/reset a setting? zfs get share NAME PROPERTY VALUE SOURCE dpool/andrew share name=andrew,path=/dpool/andrew,prot=nfs,public=true,log=global,sec=sys,rw=* local In the end I did a remove share and recreated it! Any thoughts on how to remove a property of a share? Cheers, Andrew -- Andrew Watkins * Birkbeck College http://notallmicrosoft.blogspot.com/ ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 11 and Samba and change ACL do not work
Thanks Chris that solved it. I had followed that before but I missed the "vfs objects = zfsacl" part. Teach me to skip information. I also used the "idmap config" whiched help with my mapping of AD and LDAP. ref: http://blogs.oracle.com/jurasek/entry/even_more_simple_configuration Cheers, Andrew On 12/10/11 05:05 PM, Chris Ridd wrote: On 9 Dec 2011, at 16:05, Andrew Watkins wrote: Hi, I will try here as my first port of call. I am using Samba to server files to our Windows users and I want them to change permissions of files so they can give access to other users. Before any says anything I am doing this in a ZONE so CIFS server is not available in Solaris zones. Well, it does not seem to work and I have followed a few blog entries but they all give the same result: - Edit file properties - Add user to Windows Security Tab and select Apply: "Unable to save permission changes on MyFile.txt" "Access is denied" Should this be a problem? The blog entries I have followed (why are they never 100% complete!) http://blog.mc-thias.org/?title=registering-a-samba-solaris-10-server-as-a-ms-ad-member&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 http://blog.allanglesit.com/2011/03/solaris-11-join-ad-domain-for-samba/ Any pointers? Are you using "vfs objects = zfsacl" ? This<http://nineproductions.com/technology/14-sun-solaris/65-solaris-11-samba-zfs-configuration.html> looks useful... Chris -- Andrew Watkins * Birkbeck College http://notallmicrosoft.blogspot.com/ ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Solaris 11 and Samba and change ACL do not work
Hi, I will try here as my first port of call. I am using Samba to server files to our Windows users and I want them to change permissions of files so they can give access to other users. Before any says anything I am doing this in a ZONE so CIFS server is not available in Solaris zones. Well, it does not seem to work and I have followed a few blog entries but they all give the same result: - Edit file properties - Add user to Windows Security Tab and select Apply: "Unable to save permission changes on MyFile.txt" "Access is denied" Should this be a problem? The blog entries I have followed (why are they never 100% complete!) http://blog.mc-thias.org/?title=registering-a-samba-solaris-10-server-as-a-ms-ad-member&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 http://blog.allanglesit.com/2011/03/solaris-11-join-ad-domain-for-samba/ Any pointers? Cheers, -- Andrew Watkins * Birkbeck College http://notallmicrosoft.blogspot.com/ ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] pfexec does not work any longer
Brian, Thanks for the information, but it does not work. I will have another look at the documentation, since I may be missing something in the new release. Andrew On 11/14/11 07:36 PM, Brian Cameron wrote: Andrew: The functional replacement of the "Primary Administrator" RBAC profile is "System Administrator". If you use this instead, you should find that your use is able to run programs with pfexec in much the same way as you used to do with "Primary Administrator". Note that if you setup your login shell to a shell like pfsh, pfksh, pfcsh, pfbash, ..., then you do not have to run programs with pfexec when needed. With these shells, pfexec is automatically used when needed. If you want users to need to enter a role password in order to run programs, you can also configure the user to have access to a role which has the needed privileges (e.g. root). If RBAC is configured this way, then the panel will present the dialog to enter this role password before running such programs. But, it sounds like you more just want to use the "System Administrator" profile and avoid needing to enter passwords. Others have recommended "sudo". The sudo program is useful for those people who find it the best way to configure a needed system. That said, using sudo to just avoid the use of RBAC is probably not the best use. Brian On 11/11/11 11:37 AM, Andrew Watkins wrote: I have lost the ability of making a user have access to root on Solaris 11 using the command pfexec. On the old Solaris 11 express box it works: ======= % grep andrew /etc/user_attr andrewprofiles=Primary Administrator;roles=root % id uid=102(andrew) gid=10(staff) % pfexec id uid=0(root) gid=0(root) Now on Solaris 11 it does not: == grep andrew /etc/user_attr andrewprofiles=Primary Administrator;roles=root % id uid=102(andrew) gid=10(staff) % pfexec id uid=102(andrew) gid=10(staff) What do I have to do to get pfexec working again? Cheers, Andrew -- Andrew Watkins * Birkbeck College http://notallmicrosoft.blogspot.com/ ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Is raidz root support on Solaris 11
Can I ask if raidz is support on root with Solaris 11? I am having problem doing it from auto-installer and I just thought that may be the reason. Cheers, Andrew ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] pfexec does not work any longer
I have lost the ability of making a user have access to root on Solaris 11 using the command pfexec. On the old Solaris 11 express box it works: === % grep andrew /etc/user_attr andrewprofiles=Primary Administrator;roles=root % id uid=102(andrew) gid=10(staff) % pfexec id uid=0(root) gid=0(root) Now on Solaris 11 it does not: == grep andrew /etc/user_attr andrewprofiles=Primary Administrator;roles=root % id uid=102(andrew) gid=10(staff) % pfexec id uid=102(andrew) gid=10(staff) What do I have to do to get pfexec working again? Cheers, Andrew -- Andrew Watkins * Birkbeck College http://notallmicrosoft.blogspot.com/ ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [osug-leaders] Oracle Solaris 11 - The First Cloud OS
On 09/11/2011 17:59, "C. Bergström" wrote: > On 11/ 9/11 10:27 PM, Glynn Foster wrote: >> >> Help spread the word! >Can you share a word or two on the plan for open source access? I ask >because you're posting this to what I thought was open source related >mailing lists.. >___ >opensolaris-discuss mailing list >opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org > The original plan was to provide a code drop after the release of Solaris 11. Is this still the case? ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Linking to Source Browser OK?
Ah. Thanks, again. Sounds like on the source end, now that I'm okay with GPL software, I might stick with Linux. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Linking to Source Browser OK?
Once again, thank you. :) I remember receiving an original answer to the "source" question last year. Does an equivalent to "sudo apt-get source package_name" that exists on Linux, exist for Solaris? For those unfamiliar, this downloads a .tar.gz format source code package of the package requested to the home folder in Linux. What's better is that one can "sudo apt-get source package1 package2" ... and so on, to get packages that they want. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Linking to Source Browser OK?
I believe a while back last year I had asked if it were theoretically possible to build a distro, and how much source must be with it, for which, I'm happy to state, I got a clear answer. However, can one provide source only for modified/built binaries, link to the Source Browser for unmodified source, and have the software be totally legal with the CDDL? This is only a question for fun. :) Oh, and, I have come to the realization that to use OSS one must accept that most software will be LGPL/GPL, and there's no getting around that. :) -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Dhcp client
ifconfig dhcp On 25 March 2011 19:31, mattias wrote: > In linux i can type > Dhclient eth0 > But i cant figure out the command in opensolaris > > > ___ > opensolaris-discuss mailing list > opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org > ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] ACL for window
Ryan, ACL are a big pain in CIFS. I guess you should have a closer look at what "ls -lV" shows on the files. I have been battling my way through it myself. First, when I created the file and change delete permission to deny > delete permission from windows side. but user still can delete the file. Are you talking about a UNIX or Windows user can delete the file? If Windows user then check you have created the right permissions on the home directory for the owner, since it works correctly for windows: owner@:rwxpd-aARWc--s:fd-:allow - remove D - Delete subfolders and Files - remove C - Change Permissions - remove o - Take Ownership If Solaris User, then you seem to be right. It looks like the ACL is being ignored in favour of the UNIX permissions Is this what you get after adding deny! # ls -lV DonotDELETE -rwxr-xr-xr-x+ 1 andrew staff 0 Jan 11 12:45 DonotDELETE owner@:d-:---:deny owner@:rwxpd-aARWc--s:fd-:allow group:staff:r-x---a-R-c--s:fd-:allow group@:r-x---a-R-c--s:fd-:allow everyone@:r-x---a-R-c--s:fd-:allow I guess this is a bug? Andrew -- Andrew Watkins * Birkbeck College http://notallmicrosoft.blogspot.com/ On 01/11/11 10:29 AM, Ryan Park wrote: Hello all, First I like to thank you for the help. Thank you. I have created smb share on opensolaris 134. joined windows 2008 active directory and map the share to the system. I have couple acl access permission problem. First, when I created the file and change delete permission to deny delete permission from windows side. but user still can delete the file. Second, I have taken the snapshot and restored from windows folder/file property-->previous version tab When I delete the file and restores is using different user account. that account has access to the file. Please give me light to guide throught this problem Thank you Ryan ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Is Solaris 11 dead on new desktops. Core i5
I thought I would give Solaris 11 Express a go on some new desktops we have and it failed to boot the live CD, since it freezes at: PCI Express-device: pci8086,3...@1a,7, ehci0 ehci0 is /p...@0,0/pci8086,3...@1a,7 PCI Express-device: pci8086,3...@1d,7, ehci1 ehci1 is /p...@0,0/pci8086,3...@1d,7 I found this bug https://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=15976 which it talks about which problem, which was never solved. I guess this type of error requires new intel drives which means that it will never be fixed, since Oracle will not ship Core i3/5 systems and so will not bother working on it. Also, I guess since it requires Intel help then the OpenSolaris versions of Solaris will not get any fixes either. So, the question "Solaris 11 is dead on desktops" is becoming true Cheers, Andrew -- Andrew Watkins * Birkbeck College http://notallmicrosoft.blogspot.com/ ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Can't bring windows back to or from to solaris 11
I think you will also need to enable the x11-server listener as well. $ svccfg -s x11-server listprop options/tcp_listen options/tcp_listen boolean false $ pfexec svccfg -s x11-server setprop options/tcp_listen = true $ svccfg -s x11-server listprop options/tcp_listen options/tcp_listen boolean true You may need to restart the window manager. Andrew On 12/ 3/10 05:21 PM, Randy Jones wrote: On 12/03/10 10:55, Mariela Ortega wrote: How can i configure solaris 11 to bring back GUI's from another solaris 10 servers? or to use the system remetly with exceed or xwin-32? or XDMCP? i used the setenv display and the ssy but nothing works, i get the following error Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.4.2_13-b06, mixed mode) java.lang.InternalError: Can't connect to X11 window server using 'archive.dfrc.nasa.gov:0.0' as the value of the DISPLAY variable. at sun.awt.X11GraphicsEnvironment.initDisplay(Native Method) at sun.awt.X11GraphicsEnvironment.(Unknown Source) at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method) at java.lang.Class.forName(Unknown Source) at java.awt.GraphicsEnvironment.getLocalGraphicsEnvironment(Unknown Source) at java.awt.Window.init(Unknown The display you are attempting to connect to has to be setup to allow connections from other hosts. You use xhost for this. Something like this: xhost +ipAddressOfRemoteClient or xhost +NameofRemoteClient see "man xhost" -- Andrew Watkins * Birkbeck College http://notallmicrosoft.blogspot.com/ ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Update/patch policy?
On 11/16/10 04:45 AM, Alan Coopersmith wrote: Dave Koelmeyer wrote: Sean M. Brannon wrote: What is the update/patch policy for Express? i.e. is an Oracle support contract required to gain access to Solaris 11 Express software/security updates? Yes. Oh, awesome. More demo software. Free trial/evaluation software. Like Solaris 10, production use requires support contracts. But, I thought security patches were always available for free? But, I could be wrong! Andrew -- Andrew Watkins * Birkbeck College http://notallmicrosoft.blogspot.com/ ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] SchilliX-0.7.2 is out and makes OpenSolaris self hosting
> > It is the first OpenSolaris based distro that allows to compile the > OpenSolaris base (onnv or Illumos) on a free redistributable distribution. Both Nexenta and OSUNIX have been doing this for a while AFAIK. On 25 September 2010 18:25, Joerg Schilling < joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de> wrote: > SchilliX-0.7.2 has been published yesterday at: > >ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schillix/ > > It is the first OpenSolaris based distro that allows to compile the > OpenSolaris > base (onnv or Illumos) on a free redistributable distribution. > > WARNING: do not use studio-12.1 to compile onnv or Illumos. It creates a > "hsfs" > module that returns incorrect time stamps from the area around 1890. As a > result > only 64 bit programs can access files. > > See: >ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schillix/AN-0.7.2 > > I rather recommend to use: > >sunstudio12u1-patched-ii-2010Feb-sol-x86.tar.gz > > Jörg > > -- > > EMail:jo...@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de(home) > Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin > j...@cs.tu-berlin.de(uni) > joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: > http://schily.blogspot.com/ > URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily > ___ > opensolaris-discuss mailing list > opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org > ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] When's source included?
OK--I think I understand source + software requirements. Once again, as stated earlier, thank you OpenSolaris team for answering! -- Andrew -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] When's source included?
Thank you, everyone, for the time and effort put forth into answering this question. I apologize for replying back 5 days later. I think I fully understand any distro's requirements under open source law. Basically, in summary of what I've read, one can build software from pre-compiled source or from the ground up (from source), in their preference. All source code needs to be included with the software, even if it is not modified. If all this is correct, then I've learned full open source legalities. If not, please feel free to correct me. :) Thanks, again, OpenSolaris team! -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Opensolaris kernel based desktop - StormOS
Hi, I'm the guy that created StormOS and apart from a friend of mine that does the graphics it's a one man show. All ~2000 packages in the repository were put there by myself. The ISO's on the site are _very_ out of date since I decided that my effort would be best spent fixing the underlying system (Nexenta Core Platform) instead of trying to release more ISOs that would look nice but be broken (and very old) underneath. Once the repo is complete enough to debootstrap from I'll push out a new ISO which will essentially be a Debian Sid based GNU/OpenSolaris OS. From there we can bring over the nicer things like GNOME, etc. If you want to use the repo as it stands you should use it with NCP3. Don't forget to use apt-clone to install packages so you can roll-back if something breaks. There is not much in there for the average user right now but there is a boat load of libraries and packages that you'll need to build Debian Sid packages. Andy On 23 August 2010 08:25, Euan Thoms wrote: > > I downloaded it out of curiosity. Looks like it's > > based on 2008.11 or close?! uname -a contains the > > string "NexentaOS_20081207". The included FF is > > 3.0.5. The forum posts indicate this is a one man > > show. Upon boot of the live CD, it complains about > > Gnome not being installed properly, and I ran gimp > > (which took forever to load) and it's over two years > > old. > > > > All that together doesn't inspire me to put my eggs > > in this basket (yet). Have to see where it goes. > > The iso you downloaded is quite out of date. It is a rolling release now, > so not a regular distro upgrade like OpenSolaris or Ubuntu. I believe the > repo is going to be based on debian sid now, so it will be quite bleeding > edge for Solaris, that part sounds great. Access to latest debian packages, > yeehaa! I'm not sure about Xfce though, would have preferred KDE or Gnome > myself. > > The problem is though, at the moment the latest StormOS iso is old and to > update it you have to change the repository to the new one "hail" instead of > "hardy-hail" as it's no longer based off hardy packages. The problem is, > it's built on NCP 2, and updating to NCP 3 fails. Basically, unless I'm > wrong (if so please tell me) we can't yet try out the latest StormsOS > because the upgrade path is broken. Once StormOS have released a new iso > based off NCP 3 with the latest repo + base packages, then we can give it a > go. Hopefully it won't be long, I'm itching to try it out, not much else to > do while we wait for illumos. > -- > This message posted from opensolaris.org > ___ > opensolaris-discuss mailing list > opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org > ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] When's source included?
A big thank you to everyone who replied. It's appreciated. :) Basically, assessing everything said so far, to make a distro, one has to: 1. Build it from source 2. Include the binaries 3. Follow the guide for remastering -- Or, could it be include all source and work with/on binaries, leaving 90-95% of the system unmodified? Confused. I'd be more than glad to follow steps 1-3 if it meant keeping things totally legal I guess up to this point I thought distributing source + pre-compiled binaries was okay. Is 1-3 (compile manually + source) or the second method (from pre-compiled + source) correct? Please shed more light on what it takes to make a distro legal. I'd appreciate it. :) P.S. If OpenSolaris is no longer even going to be developed, as much as I don't like the GPL, I might have to run Linux. I hope this isn't the case. :( -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] When's source included?
Hello. I had a question, after reading through the CDDL. If I wanted to make a distro/respin, (and this is only out of sheer curiousity), would all the OpenSolaris source have to be downloaded with it, or would it only have to be anything built or modified upon? I've read what it says on programs--I'm hoping this doesn't mean to download code for the whole OS, if one were to do this! Honestly wondering. :) -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] upcoming web event:strategy for Oracle's Sun Servers, Storage and solaris
> On 08/12/10 03:58 PM, andrew wrote: > >> > >> > >> --- On Wed, 8/11/10, Alan Coopersmith > >> wrote: > >>>>> Edward Ned Harvey wrote: > >>>>>> #3 It does not make sense to discontinue > >>> development of opensolaris. > >>>>> Some > >>>>>> day they'll have to make a solaris 12, you > >>> know. But they're > >>>>> diverting > >>>>>> development away from opensolaris right now, > >>> to make *damn* sure they > >>>>>> release solaris 11 this year. > >>>>> My calender still says 2010, not 2011, or did > >> you > >>> miss that part of the > >>>>> webcast? > >>>> > >>>> Not sure what you're talking about. I never > >>> suggested solaris 11 would be delayed into 2011. > >>> > >>> John Fowler clearly stated during the webcast > that > >> Solaris > >>> 11 was scheduled > >>> to ship in 2011. This was repeated in all the > >>> articles I've seen, including > >>> some you mentioned in your other > >>> posts. You are the only one imagining a > >>> 2010 ship date for it. Even the 140 > >>> character summary from Oracle marketing > >>> was clear about that: > >>> > >>> http://twitter.com/Oracle/status/20806524667 > >>> > >>> -- > >>> -Alan Coopersmith- > >> > >> Major chalkboard points noted: > >> > >> 1. Dropping AMD servers for Intel-based servers. > >> 2. Upscaling SPARC server roadmap to 128 cores and > >> 64TB of memory by Y2015. > >> 3. Solaris 11 will ship next year - Y2011. > > > > Most likely the 2nd half of 2011. With any luck you > will be able to download and use it for free as well, > although admittedly it will most likely demand some > sort of payment to Oracle to use it in a production > environment. But then, that never did Windows any > harm did it? > > > > You may now begin the flaming! ;-) > > > > Cheers > > > > Andrew. > > > I expect Oracle to give us more info during > OpenWorld. I am expecting > more to come regarding OpenSolaris, I don't think > they will call it > OpenSolaris. No! I don't have any inside knowledge, > just thinking out loud. I don't expect to ever see binaries for the OpenSolaris distribution again. The most I think we can expect is a preview of Solaris 11 along the lines of the old "Solaris Express" programme. I hope I will be proved wrong though. Andrew. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] upcoming web event:strategy for Oracle's Sun Servers, Storage and solaris
> > > --- On Wed, 8/11/10, Alan Coopersmith > wrote: > > >> Edward Ned Harvey wrote: > > >>> #3 It does not make sense to discontinue > > development of opensolaris. > > >> Some > > >>> day they'll have to make a solaris 12, you > > know. But they're > > >> diverting > > >>> development away from opensolaris right now, > > to make *damn* sure they > > >>> release solaris 11 this year. > > >> My calender still says 2010, not 2011, or did > you > > miss that part of the > > >> webcast? > > > > > > Not sure what you're talking about. I never > > suggested solaris 11 would be delayed into 2011. > > > > John Fowler clearly stated during the webcast that > Solaris > > 11 was scheduled > > to ship in 2011. This was repeated in all the > > articles I've seen, including > > some you mentioned in your other > > posts. You are the only one imagining a > > 2010 ship date for it. Even the 140 > > character summary from Oracle marketing > > was clear about that: > > > > http://twitter.com/Oracle/status/20806524667 > > > > -- > > -Alan Coopersmith- > > Major chalkboard points noted: > > 1. Dropping AMD servers for Intel-based servers. > 2. Upscaling SPARC server roadmap to 128 cores and > 64TB of memory by Y2015. > 3. Solaris 11 will ship next year - Y2011. Most likely the 2nd half of 2011. With any luck you will be able to download and use it for free as well, although admittedly it will most likely demand some sort of payment to Oracle to use it in a production environment. But then, that never did Windows any harm did it? You may now begin the flaming! ;-) Cheers Andrew. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Nessus
> Hi there, > > I am wondering if anyone has ever been successful in > installing Nessus on Opensolaris. Any other reputable > Network and web application VA tools info is much > appreciated as well. > > Haven't found any Nessus related info in Opensolaris > website. On the same way, Nessus website does not > make any reference to Opensolaris. > > Appreciate any information related one could share. Hmm, that's weird. I definitely had Nessus running on OpenSolaris 2009.06 earlier this year. It seems they pulled the source for the Nessus Client and the Solaris x86 binaries for Nessus itself. Unfortunately I don't seem to have a copy. Andrew. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] NIC is only functional when 'snoop' is running
My workstation is not on a UPS and experienced a hard-shutdown the other day due to a commercial power outage. It booted up cleanly afterwards; however, my NIC is does not seem to be functional unless 'snoop' is running. I've tried setting a static IP, using DHCP, triple-checked the subnet mask, etc. If 'snoop' isn't running, I can't ping the default router, resolve hostnames, or SSH to IP addresses on my local network. I don't have a clue whether this is configuration problem, or if the NIC was somehow damaged when the power went out. My workstation is running build 134, and it is using the e1000g driver. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris Next timescale
> joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote: > > Alan Coopersmith > wrote: > > > >>> CPIO is limited to 8 GB files and the (non-POSIX > ... SVR4) CPIO archive format > >>> Solaris is currently using by default is even > limited to 4 GB file size. > >> So? If the OS installer is unpacking any files > larger than 4gb, there is > >> something seriously wrong. Are there any packages in Solaris 10 or Next that are even 1GB in size? I somehow doubt it. But that wasn't the issue. The issue was, will CPIO or IPS' new on-disk format be used and that's pretty much been answered further down this thread. > > >>> It has been shown already that pkgadd can be > enhanced to use other > >>> archive types and I am strongly against > introducing something new > >>> that is based n the outdated (since y-2001) CPIO. > >> Using cpio in the installs is hardly new. > > > > I was replying to a person who proposed to use cpio > for something new. > > No, he was simply referring to the OS install cd's, > which have used cpio > for a long time. Precisely. There is nothing new about using CPIO for Solaris install CDs or DVDs. Something new would be using an IPS on-disk format for these. ;-) Cheers Andrew. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris Next timescale
> On 07/19/10 03:53 AM, andrew wrote: > ... > > So the big question is: will Solaris Next use IPS > packaging? My money is on IPS packaging but a big fat > CPIO-based DVD installation similar to S10 but using > the new Caiman installers from OpenSolaris (local > text and graphics-based installs plus via serial > line, network and service processor consoles). > > If you've been watching the pkg-discuss mailing list, > you'd note that > the on-disk form for the image packaging system is > already under > development. > > And for the record, the chosen format is not CPIO. Cool. I won't ask you to confirm plans for the Solaris Next DVD install format since that's an Oracle *product*. ;-) Andrew. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Solaris Next timescale
Time for some crystal ball gazing folks. I reckon beta 1 of Solaris Next will be announced at Oracle Open World. Beta 2 will follow within 3 to 6 months, and by this time next year we will have Solaris Next FCS. I'm hoping Oracle are currently working on providing a smooth migration path from Solaris 10 to Solaris Next that doesn't involve dumping an existing S10 system into an S10 branded zone on Sol_Next. So the big question is: will Solaris Next use IPS packaging? My money is on IPS packaging but a big fat CPIO-based DVD installation similar to S10 but using the new Caiman installers from OpenSolaris (local text and graphics-based installs plus via serial line, network and service processor consoles). So instead of OpenSolaris installing just one CD's worth via CPIO, you will have a Solaris Next DVD running the Caiman installer doing CPIO-based installations of a whole DVD worth of IPS packages. Or perhaps Oracle will manage to get an IPS-based installer working fast enough to be viable as the OS installer itself, which would enable more fine-grained control of which software to install from the DVD. As I said above, this is pure speculation based on some of the noises coming out of Oracle right now. In my view Sun waited too long between the release of Solaris 10 and Solaris Next. Solaris Next should have been released in 2009, in my view. Cheers Andrew. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [zfs-discuss] zpool import hangs indefinitely (retry post in parts; too long?)
Victor, The zpool import succeeded on the next attempt following the crash that I reported to you by private e-mail! For completeness, this is the final status of the pool: pool: tank state: ONLINE scan: resilvered 1.50K in 165h28m with 0 errors on Sat Jul 3 08:02:30 2010 config: NAMESTATE READ WRITE CKSUM tankONLINE 0 0 0 raidz2-0 ONLINE 0 0 0 c0t0d0 ONLINE 0 0 0 c0t1d0 ONLINE 0 0 0 c0t2d0 ONLINE 0 0 0 c0t3d0 ONLINE 0 0 0 c0t4d0 ONLINE 0 0 0 c0t5d0 ONLINE 0 0 0 c0t6d0 ONLINE 0 0 0 c0t7d0 ONLINE 0 0 0 cache c2t0d0ONLINE 0 0 0 errors: No known data errors Thank you very much for your help. We did not need to add additional RAM to solve this, in the end. Instead, we needed to persist with the import through several panics to finally work our way through the large inconsistent dataset; it is unclear whether the resilvering caused additional processing delay. Unfortunately, the delay made much of the data quite stale, now that it's been recovered. It does seem that zfs would benefit tremendously from a better (quicker and more intuitive?) set of recovery tools, that are available to a wider range of users. It's really a shame, because the features and functionality in zfs are otherwise absolutely second to none. /Andrew[i][/i][i][/i][i][/i][i][/i][i][/i] -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Where is OpenSolaris 2010 release?
> I think my old mother has an advanced 3D puzzle for a > flower vase as well. Should keep you busy... ;) In no case. I'll just type "make world", and it will be done automagically. ;) -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Where is OpenSolaris 2010 release?
> Have I got a car for you, next time you're looking > for one: > > http://www.treehugger.com/picture-is-worth-sum-car-parts.jpg > > Easy assembly. Shouldn't take you long. > > Oh wait... Hm-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m... O.k, I'll consider bying it somewhat later if you kindly explain me where's the keyboard there to type "pfexec nightly.sh"... ;))) -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Where is OpenSolaris 2010 release?
> > OpenSolaris 2010.02... 03... 04... 05... 06! > > If you ask me Oracle should be re named to "Orifice" > > No, they just wanted to bring back the dreaded nickname slowlaris. > > Let's try to keep things here like we have a little humor and self-irony, > please? ;) O.k. :) Guys, I can't understand indeed why the people waiting Indiana Release 2010.x just haven't built any release they like from Mercurial repository? AFAIK OpenSolaris building process is straightforward (sure, if you CAREFULLY follow the building instructions), moreover, BFU process has been deprecated for quite time in favour of upgrading from your local repository, as such, you can use "pkg image-update" usual way as if you're upgrading from http://pkg.opensolaris.org/[dev/]. So, what's the problem? People who use _DEVELOPMENT BY DEFINITION_ distribution of operating system are unable to cope with C compiler?-) -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Is it possible to switch GNOME's license from GPL?
I appreciate all the help and feedback, but I think I'll stop my part in discussing the whole GPL and GNOME thing further. It is really opening up a can of worms I did not originally intend to open at all. I simply had a question that sparked out of 100% curiosity. Thank you everyone for your time, willingness to discuss this topic, and information. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] PC Emulator for OpenSolaris?
Cool. Thanks for the advice, everyone! I'll see what works out in this case. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Is it possible to switch GNOME's license from GPL?
There's a lot of mystery here surrounding my reasoning around not supporting the GNU General Public License. I don't blame anyone for that. Firstly, what is the definition of open source? - It is a common belief that source and software should be open and shared amongst people without restrictions. It is NOT, in my opinion, a religion as most see it, neither should it be. - I believe open source is to benefit other programmers (and end users as well in the long run) to make software better. It is NOT so one group of programmers can put themselves under one roof and criticize other programmers who do not support the GPL. - It is a collaboration of programmers to make software better by better solving problems with code (namely security holes and bugs) and to make it easier for *others* to use. The GPL differs from other licenses, as I believe both Linux and the GPL in general stand for something open source never should be: rebellion--*especially* towards Windows programmers and users. Is this fair to insult them, just because they prefer a different platform with different concepts on software? I will state clearly and simply that this is immature, and it is not supporting the true open source idea. When making software began, programmers collaborated on ideas and programs, almost like we're doing now on this topic. However, when the GNU licenses *prefer* computer daemons combined with symbols reminiscient of hellish characters and terminology, I cannot as a Christian support either the BSD or GPL licenses. I'd honestly prefer the more open MIT because it is more open to users. While using Linux, I found myself uncomfortable with what the GPL stands for. Therefore, it is difficult to use the GPLed GNOME, knowing that GNOME is the desktop environment on OpenSolari s. The only thing I was hoping to do and/or know is if it could be rewritten under a different license from source--obviously, the answer is no. But please understand that I do not think all GPL programmers or users are wrong, or obviously, you would be right in criticizing my dislike of the GPL. There are helpful GPL programs--they're just under the wrong license, in my opinion. And I also know that there are GPL programs supporting great OSes like OS X and OpenSolaris, and the Haiku project. Therefore, I think it impossible any system could be "GPL-free" but as close as possible when it can be achieved by selecting alternatively licensed software when it can be helped. I hope everyone can understand what I'm saying. I did not mean to make any sort of trouble by starting this discussion. I asked a mere question because I wasn't sure if changing between GPL and the CDDL or MIT could happen--with the GPL, it *can* change "compatible" licenses to itself. I just wanted to know if it applied to the GPL as well... Thanks, John, for replying to the previous comment. It is very much appreciated. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] curious COMSTAR iSCSI target timeout and responsiveness failures
We've built a SAN based on NexentaStor 3.0, and have generally had a good experience with the flexibility and performance of ZFS and the relatively new COMSTAR kernel mode iSCSI story. However, we are experiencing a frustrating and thus far terminal robustness issue which is keeping the box out of production: whenever we initiate iSCSI from our Hyper-V cluster nodes and turn on deduplication and compression (and sometimes even when we turn both of them off), and we hammer high bandwidth serial writes against the COMSTAR iSCSI targets, the OpenSolaris box tends to trigger timeouts and other iSCSI failures in the Hyper-V iSCSI initiator. In the case of our Hyper-V cluster, this causes our Cluster Shared Volumes to fail, which in turn causes all of our VMs to reset. This thread describes the issues as seen on the initiator side: http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en/windowsserver2008r2general/thread/4b8f659f-2380-48e2-960a-97048bd5cb1c. Only rarely has a reset of the OpenSolaris improved the issue in any way whatsoever, which leads me to believe it is generally healthy. Increasing the timeout value on the Hyper-V R2 side as described in the above thread is not solving the problem. So here's my initial question: where are the log entries that I should be reviewing and posting on the OpenSolaris side with respect to COMSTAR iSCSI. First and foremost, I want to diagnose whether the OpenSolaris box is unhappy when these failures are occuring. For reference, the selection of initiator errors in the Windows System Log are: * Warning iScsiPrt 129 * Error iScsiPrt 9 - target did not respond in time for SCSI request. The CDB is given in the dump data. * Error iScsiPrt 39 0 initiator sent a task management command to reset the target.. A full reset of the initiator generally rectifies the issue. Occasionally, the problem self corrects after various timeout and reset times expire on the Windows side. Please advise. TIA, Andrew Jones -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] PC Emulator for OpenSolaris?
I'm aware of the 'GPL situation'. As stated in my previous post yesterday, "Apparently, as much as I like using OpenSolaris, without the ability to completely change the GPL components to where they're dwindled to simply coreutils and a LILO bootloader or something miniature in respect to the whole of the OS..." It would be impossible to take out core components, but I believe avoiding using the GPL can be helped. I'm aware a total 100% is impossible, but a 80-85% non-GPL open source system I think is more realistic. Even Haiku under the MIT uses coreutils, and OS X uses at least nano under its Unix subsystem--so it's not [i]totally[/i] BSD. - OK Getting back to the post. After looking through Google, Win4Solaris seems to be the best solution over VirtualBox or JPC. I remembered the icon, but not the name. I merely started this discussion because I couldn't remember the name 'VirtualBox'. :-D Honestly, I had no idea it was GPLed--until seeing the webpage, I thought it was under a proprietary license. Once again, (for the third time!), thanks for the quick and accurate information. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] PC Emulator for OpenSolaris?
Sorry about so many posts--this is really the last question I've got for OpenSolaris! After this, I'm gonna quit putting up threads for a while! :) And, hopefully, this is a quick, short question--not opening a can of worms like the GNOME licensing thing. OK. With Mac, you've got VMWare Fusion, Parallels, Q, etc. On Windows, you've got VMWare Server & Player, Virtual PC, etc. On Linux, you've got qemu and on the lower end, the Wine emulator. All of which are very helpful. Why would all these systems want an emulator? Because... as much as anyone wants to use OS X or the system that they like, people whether on the user, home, or corporate level somehow need to run Windows applications or things that are just simply built for Windows. G... (And why would someone want to run Windows-on-Windows?) ;-) Basically, is there a Windows emulator (*besides using* the Wine emulator; those who read the previous post know I don't like the GPL) that will allow me to run Windows-based applications or Windows itself on top of OpenSolaris? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Is it possible to switch GNOME's license from GPL?
Before **completely** quitting discussing OpenSolaris & GNOME here, I might add someone could install a shell to go on top of GNOME once logged in (though it'd take more startup time), then run OpenSolaris. Installing an alternative bootloader might do the trick for not using GRUB at startup. Just adding a few more words here in summary of the forum. So, I may or may not be using OpenSolaris. Again, thanks to everyone who has been informative and helpful. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Is it possible to switch GNOME's license from GPL?
OK I'd better wrap this discussion up before taking up anyone else's time on the forum. I understand there are questions pertaining to hardware or just plainly more important questions than these. Apparently, as much as I like using OpenSolaris, without the ability to completely change the GPL components to where they're dwindled to simply coreutils and a LILO bootloader or something miniature in respect to the whole of the OS (let's face it, with GRUB and GNOME in OpenSolaris, that comprises a huge chunk!) OpenSolaris needs to be worked on in this respect. It is at least my opinion that the site should state affiliation with these programs in relation to the GPL, before stating it as CDDL to anyone looking to click the download link. As a result, since I now understand the workings of the GPL and all its nastiness, if you will, I'm sorry to state I most likely will quit using OpenSolaris in the short time I've tried it. I find it wrong that the GPL can "conquer" other programs by injecting into programs, infecting the software that was once good under a different license. Why can't other licenses do the same? Obviously, strong legal backing as you all have kindly expl ained. I'm looking for a relatively GPL-free OS to run and possibly work on. I appreciate all the time and effort put forth, including giving solid reasoning for why the GNOME interface/desktop environment cannot be respun without the GPL. Thank you for being open and informative. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Is it possible to switch GNOME's license from GPL?
I was thinking of getting feedback on window managers and licensing, but I wasn't thinking so many threads would accumulate! :-) This is getting interesting Getting back to an original comment--apparently, yes, OpenSolaris does indeed use the GRUB bootloader--I noted that upon first using OpenSolaris. For any 'thinking about OpenSolaris' users out there, I might add I first thought OpenSolaris was CDDL, period--it's not, as everyone is well aware. As far as I know, GRUB (maybe LILO) are bootloaders that just work with OpenSolaris. Booting without these designed-for-Linux bootloaders would be near impossible just from seeing the dependence OpenSolaris has on other GPL programs and scripts. If even an end user looks under the Package Manager, it becomes obvious OpenSolaris sorta borrows from Linux, or at least, it looks that way. Not saying it does! :) I'm sorta looking for an open source system without an overhaul of GPL stuff, and I didn't like the fact Linux = GPL. Just switched to OpenSolaris recently, by the way. Personally, the CDDL and the MIT are *good* licenses. I've tried the Haiku alpha release... the support for netbooks + netbooks using the Internet isn't fully developed yet. I've read the Wikipedia articles on window managers, and I'm familiar with lightweight window managers from Linux. In my opinion, if you have to, use KDE instead of GNOME. KDE 3, at least, is built with more customizibility--don't ask what happened to KDE 4. I've used Fluxbox and twm (both under the MIT), but wouldn't installing one of these lightweight managers pull the plug on advanced GUI features of OpenSolaris? GNOME obviously is to be left alone or contributed to... and stripping out GNOME to put in another window manager would most likely leave core features of OpenSolaris non-operational. As PC said to his bodyguard, I'm coming to a sad realization :) Thanks for the comments so far. This is becoming intriguing as it goes on. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Is it possible to switch GNOME's license from GPL?
New threads popped up while replying to another thread... However, compiling and putting Fluxbox on OpenSolaris then would be the viable option, since the licensing for GNOME cannot be changed. (I don't think I'd want to convince anyone to change GNOME either.) :) -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Is it possible to switch GNOME's license from GPL?
Thanks. This is what I envisioned would have been the answer to this question before even asked. I have used both GNOME and KDE--aware a community fuels it's popularity and license, and considering the fact GNOME is made not only for OpenSolaris, but for Linux and Unix-like systems as well, under numerous authors (the GNOME Project team), saying it is near impossible would really be a good analysis. Therefore, the second question then (and it would greatly lighten any OpenSolaris distros) is whether Fluxbox is supported on the platform over GNOME? (I'd really prefer a desktop manager that was not GPLed--namely Fluxbox, under the MIT.) Thanks. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Is it possible to switch GNOME's license from GPL?
Out of curiousity, is it possible to convert the GPL-licensed GNOME on OpenSolaris to the CDDL or MIT licenses? We are NOT talking of LGPL here. I'm well aware that any code or really 'software' deemed "compatible" with the GPL underneath another license "compatible" becomes GPL or at least, GPL in part. While it is possible for other licenses to "adapt", shall we say, to the GPL, how can the same be done to respin GNOME from the GPL? We're talking possibly recompiling and rebuilding GNOME into another desktop environment, licensed under (e.g. the MIT) if it can be done. Or, can someone install the Fluxbox environment onto OpenSolaris? Wait... real question: Is Fluxbox supported on OpenSolaris like in distros? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Missing partition on opensolaris: help?
Thanks, everyone! I have a *small* understanding now of OpenSolaris disks! The disk is now mounted and I used ls -l to list it by mount point when I finished mapping it out. (In case anyone was wondering, I originally wrote moron in one sentence. The blog five-starred it when I reviewed the blog later. Just in case others were wondering. I guess it doesn't allow that word. I'll remember that.) :) -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Missing partition on opensolaris: help?
Thanks for the commands and support so far. The only issue is that when I type the commands you had specified, and...@netbook:~# rmformat Looking for devices... No removables found. and...@netbook:~# format Searching for disks...done AVAILABLE DISK SELECTIONS: 0. c8d0 /p...@0,0/pci-...@1f,2/i...@0/c...@0,0 Specify disk (enter its number): (Which of course, at this point, I break with ^C as I don't want to destroy disks.) All this happens. And only one partition shows up?! This isn't making sense. Now, upon ls /dev/dsk, assuming OpenSolaris' 'slices' were here, I get (as I described earlier) these, which I'm not going to try to mount individually: and...@netbook:~$ ls /dev/dsk c0t600C0FF007FC940DE0717A00d0 c10t0d0s14 c1t3d0p1 c7t0d0s15 c0t600C0FF007FC940DE0717A00d0p0 c10t0d0s15 c1t3d0p2 c7t0d0s2 c0t600C0FF007FC940DE0717A00d0p1 c10t0d0s2 c1t3d0p3 c7t0d0s3 c0t600C0FF007FC940DE0717A00d0p2 c10t0d0s3 c1t3d0p4 c7t0d0s4 c0t600C0FF007FC940DE0717A00d0p3 c10t0d0s4 c1t3d0s0 c7t0d0s5 c0t600C0FF007FC940DE0717A00d0p4 c10t0d0s5 c1t3d0s1 c7t0d0s6 c0t600C0FF007FC940DE0717A00d0s0 c10t0d0s6 c1t3d0s10 c7t0d0s7 c0t600C0FF007FC940DE0717A00d0s1 c10t0d0s7 c1t3d0s11 c7t0d0s8 c0t600C0FF007FC940DE0717A00d0s10 c10t0d0s8 c1t3d0s12 c7t0d0s9 c0t600C0FF007FC940DE0717A00d0s11 c10t0d0s9 c1t3d0s13 c8d0p0 c0t600C0FF007FC940DE0717A00d0s12 c11t0d0p0 c1t3d0s14 c8d0p1 c0t600C0FF007FC940DE0717A00d0s13 c11t0d0p1 c1t3d0s15 c8d0p2 c0t600C0FF007FC940DE0717A00d0s14 c11t0d0p2 c1t3d0s2 c8d0p3 c0t600C0FF007FC940DE0717A00d0s15 c11t0d0p3 c1t3d0s3 c8d0p4 c0t600C0FF007FC940DE0717A00d0s2 c11t0d0p4 c1t3d0s4 c8d0s0 c0t600C0FF007FC940DE0717A00d0s3 c11t0d0s0 c1t3d0s5 c8d0s1 c0t600C0FF007FC940DE0717A00d0s4 c11t0d0s1 c1t3d0s6 c8d0s10 c0t600C0FF007FC940DE0717A00d0s5 c11t0d0s10 c1t3d0s7 c8d0s11 c0t600C0FF007FC940DE0717A00d0s6 c11t0d0s11 c1t3d0s8 c8d0s12 c0t600C0FF007FC940DE0717A00d0s8 c11t0d0s12 c1t3d0s9 c8d0s13 c0t600C0FF007FC940DE0717A00d0s9 c11t0d0s13 c2t0d0p0 c8d0s14 c0t600C0FF0081A783147566300d0p0 c11t0d0s14 c2t0d0p1 c8d0s15 c0t600C0FF0081A783147566300d0p1 c11t0d0s15 c2t0d0p2 c8d0s2 c0t600C0FF0081A783147566300d0p2 c11t0d0s2 c2t0d0p3 c8d0s3 c0t600C0FF0081A783147566300d0p3 c11t0d0s3 c2t0d0p4 c8d0s4 c0t600C0FF0081A783147566300d0p4 c11t0d0s4 c2t0d0s0 c8d0s5 c0t600C0FF0081A783147566300d0s0 c11t0d0s5 c2t0d0s1 c8d0s6 c0t600C0FF0081A783147566300d0s1 c11t0d0s6 c2t0d0s10 c8d0s7 c0t600C0FF0081A783147566300d0s10 c11t0d0s7 c2t0d0s11 c8d0s8 c0t600C0FF0081A783147566300d0s11 c11t0d0s8 c2t0d0s12 c8d0s9 c0t600C0FF0081A783147566300d0s12 c11t0d0s9 c2t0d0s13 c9t0d0p0 c0t600C0FF0081A783147566300d0s13 c1t0d0p0c2t0d0s14 c9t0d0p1 c0t600C0FF0081A783147566300d0s14 c1t0d0p1c2t0d0s15 c9t0d0p2 c0t600C0FF0081A783147566300d0s15 c1t0d0p2c2t0d0s2 c9t0d0p3 c0t600C0FF0081A783147566300d0s2 c1t0d0p3c2t0d0s3 c9t0d0p4 c0t600C0FF0081A783147566300d0s3 c1t0d0p4c2t0d0s4 c9t0d0s0 c0t600C0FF0081A783147566300d0s4 c1t0d0s0c2t0d0s5 c9t0d0s1 c0t600C0FF0081A783147566300d0s5 c1t0d0s1c2t0d0s6 c9t0d0s10 c0t600C0FF0081A783147566300d0s6 c1t0d0s10 c2t0d0s7 c9t0d0s11 c0t600C0FF0081A783147566300d0s7 c1t0d0s11 c2t0d0s8 c9t0d0s12 c0t600C0FF0081A783147566300d0s8 c1t0d0s12 c2t0d0s9 c9t0d0s13 c0t600C0FF0081A783147566300d0s9 c1t0d0s13 c7t0d0p0 c9t0d0s14 c10t0d0p0 c1t0d0s14 c7t0d0p1 c9t0d0s15 c10t0d0p1 c1t0d0s15 c7t0d0p2 c9t0d0s2 c10t0d0p2 c1t0d0s2c7t0d0p3 c9t0d0s3 c10t0d0p3 c1t0d0s3c7t0d0p4 c9t0d0s4 c10t0d0p4 c1t0d0s4c7t0d0s0 c9t0d0s5 c10t0d0s0 c1t0d0s5c7t0d0s1 c9t0d0s6 c10t0d0s1 c1t0d0s6c7t0d0s10 c9t0d0s7 c10t0d0s10c1t0d0s7c7t0d0s11 c9t0d0s8 c10t0d0s11c1t0d0s8c7t0d0s12 c9t0d0s9 c10t0d0s12c1t0d0s9c7t0d0s13 c10t0d0s13 The partition IS there--OpenSolaris just isn't picking it up as external/removable or internal after the OpenSolaris installation replacing the customized Linux install I had previously had running. I learned of OpenSolaris, and two days ago decided to give it a shot over Linux. I'm proficient with Linux, just not completely with OpenSolaris yet. The underlying system works differently, apparently... I thought the two were near the same. Through al
[osol-discuss] Missing partition on opensolaris: help?
Sorry I've replied to the post late! Thank you for the help so far! I'll work with the terminal using the commands you've supplied and get back to you shortly. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] The Case of The Missing Drive
Hello, I've got an issue with a partition I cannot seem to access. I'm familiar how drives are mounted in Linux and mapped in Windows. For instance, /dev/sda5 underneath the Linux platform would describe my partition, D:\ under Windows would've described it. Here's the issue: When I "ls /dev" from the terminal, I get a zillion lines. I'm aware from reading a post or two Solaris works with "drive slices" but what in the world is a drive slice in relevance to my partition? I'm also aware that sda# that Linux would map no longer exist here but it's more like (e.g. /dev/dsk/c0d0p2) on Solaris. Out of all these lines dumped from /dev, do you think you could help me pinpoint the drive if possible, so it could be mounted? And is mount used the same way if it is FAT32 (e.g. "mount -t vfat /dev/sda5 /mnt/sda5)? Thanks. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] samba version
Brandon High wrote: On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 1:06 PM, John Ryan wrote: Why not CIFS then? - It's streaks ahead of Samba Samba has some advantages, such as the ability to act as domain controller or AD master. The native cifs server certainly wins on performance, support for VSS and ACLs. As with everything, I supposed it depends on what your requirements are. Also, printing should be added to this list, if OpenSolaris is your printer server! Andrew ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Automated installer problem
Looks like Jan is pointing you in the right direction, since I guess your disk does not have a SOLARIS fdisk partition, no free partition and I would even guess it has another O/S on it. Also, check out the Deleting/Creating of fdisk Partition in AI Manifests files if you want it done automatically: http://dlc.sun.com/osol/docs/content/2009.06/AIinstall/customai.html#iepartition Andrew Hi, in order to determine what might went wrong, could you please attach following information ? (Run all commands within booted AI image - e.g. right after the installation fails) - AI manifest (located in /tmp/ai_combined_manifest.xml) - partition configuration on target disk # fdisk -W - c7t0d0 - version of AI image used for the installation # uname -a # pkg info entire Thank you, Jan On 05/26/10 11:29 PM, melbogia wrote: We have been using automated installer so it is configured right. Today we tried to install opensolaris again with the automated installer but there is some kind of disk error and I cannot figure out how to fix it. Here is the log r...@opensolaris:~# cat /tmp/install_log /tmp/ai_combined_manifest.xml is a valid manifest Auto reboot disabled System reports enough physical memory for installation, swap is optional Checking any disks for minimum recommended size of 12646 MB Disk c7t0d0 size listed as 476940 MB Default disk selected is c7t0d0 Disk name selected for installation is c7t0d0 no manifest partition information found disk partition info not changed no manifest slice information found Timezone setting will be TZ=US/Pacific Set timezone installation will be performed from http://10.0.1.244 (opensolaris.org) installation will be performed from http://10.0.1.244 (opensolaris.org) list of packages to be installed is: entire SUNWcsd SUNWcs babel_install list of packages to be removed is: babel_install slim_install Disk was changed Disk doesn't contain valid Solaris partition Couldn't set fdisk attributes. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org -- Andrew Watkins * Birkbeck College http://notallmicrosoft.blogspot.com/ ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] An effort to rally around - building a real, community
Is Oracle really closing OpenSolaris? On 25 May 2010 15:21, James Grisanzio wrote: > Apologies for the profanity earlier on this thread. I suspended the account > and the mail will be removed from the archives. This is a violation of the > TOU. > > Jim > > ___ > opensolaris-discuss mailing list > opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org > ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Opensolaris or Solaris VPN solutions
... And the fourth, missed by me in my previous message: yes, OpenVPN can be used to build L3 tunnels as of L2 ones. :) P.S: Some words about vpnc -- open source client part for Cisco VPDNs. I've experimented with it, but I can't made it to work stable. :( -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Opensolaris or Solaris VPN solutions
> Just curious what is the basic plan for VPN solutions for Opensolaris or even > Solaris in general? The answer actually differs depending on what do you actually want from VPN. Before someone begins, one should clearly answer yourself what ISO layer he wants to tunnel through. In a case if there's a need to link two layer 2 networks, there are two possible solutions known to me -- Cisco VPN Client (L2TP over IPSec over UDP) and OpenVPN (homegrown). The former is available only to Cisco customers, much outdated (latest version of Cisco VPN Client available for platforms different from Microsoft Windows is 4.8), Cisco-specific, proprietary/closed source and available for Solaris/SPARC only, but somewhat time-proven and tends to be an "de facto" industry standard, albeit only in the world of Cisco guys. :) The latter is open-source, but relates on availability of "ethertap-like" driver on operating system. It's unknown to me if there's such a driver available under Solaris, but in a case of it's availability OpenVPN will work fine. In a case if there's a need to link two layer 3 networks, solutions spectra is much more rich. First of all, if tunneling of unicast traffic is enough for you, you can use IPSec. IPSec without anything more. :) IPSec tunnel mode, in theory, can be used with static keying, as such, no other software besides of kernel IPSec engine and /usr/sbin/ipsec* utilities is needed to operate IPSec tunnel. Although this mode is not secure enough in modern world, nobody can forbid you to install ISAKMP/IKE daemon such as racoon and use dynamic keying. :) Second, if you want, for example, to send multicast traffic via IPSec (for example, to use OSPF), you should protect by IPSec (better by using IPSec transport mode to lower tunneling overhead) some tunneling protocol more powerful than IPSec tunnel mode. Any protocol, really. PPP over TCP (protected by IPSec, duh!) works. :) But GRE is usually recommended for this case, and is much more inter-operable (you even be able to terminate such a tunnel on Cisco device). Third, VPN as a technology doesn't really _REQUIRE_ any cryptography. If there're no sensitive information passing the VPN link, one can use GRE (or even PPP over TCP :) without any encryption. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Does Opensolaris support thin reclamation?
Support for thin reclamation depends on the SCSI "WRITE SAME" command; see this draft of a document from T10: http://www.t10.org/ftp/t10/document.05/05-270r0.pdf. I spent some time searching the source code for support for "WRITE SAME", but I wasn't able to find much. I assume that if it was supported, it would be listed in this header file: http://src.opensolaris.org/source/xref/onnv/onnv-gate/usr/src/uts/common/sys/scsi/generic/commands.h Does anyone know for certain whether Opensolaris supports thin reclamation on thinly-provisioned LUNs? If not, is anyone interested in or actively working on this? I'm especially interested in ZFS' support for thin reclamation, but I would be interested in hearing about support (or lack of) for UFS and SVM as well. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?
What ever happens to (Open)Solaris the new version of Solaris (Solaris Next again "Oracle Welcome Session") will surly be based of OpenSolaris.. I guess the only key word will be "Open" Andrew George Koutras wrote: I start shivering to the idea that oracle might drop opensolaris or keep developing only the Openstorage required portions of it, and adding to that the sudden silence in indiana-discuss from "@oracle.com" & "@sun.com" (last email on Friday 9/4), lets hope we will not be forced to move to bsd or linux world ( really outdated OSes compared to (open)solaris ). Please save the project. George -- Andrew Watkins * Birkbeck College http://notallmicrosoft.blogspot.com/ ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] snv_134 doesn't boot after motherboard and CPU replacement
> Hi, > > The problem is that the device paths have changed > because you used > different motherboard. ideally use an identical > motherboard instead of > different one. If not, short answer is there is no > easy way to fix > verything. but you can recover most of the stuff by > doing the > following: > > 1. zpool import/export - This will fix the disk > containing zpool changing > paths > 2. fixup /etc/path to inst - need to do it manually > 3. fix up /dev and /devices - need to do it manually > > This whole process is time consuming and laborious. > > There is a project in the works to make this work > easier, but it is still > in the implementation stage. > > Vikram The big one is to stop the kernel choking when it tries to remount the root filesystem. The kernel needs the ability to use the pool's GUID to find it, rather than relying on the device path. Cheers Andrew. > > On Wednesday 17 March 2010 03:00:49 Frank Lahm wrote: > > 2010/3/17 Alexander Eremin : > > > On Wed, 2010-03-17 at 10:19 +0100, Frank Lahm > wrote: > > >> Hi list, > > >> > > >> I've got a snv_133 machine that won't boot after > replacing the > > >> motherboard and cpu. Asking for advice before > doing the > replacement > > >> didn't give anything [1], so I went ahead and > tempted fate. Of > course > > >> it won't boot now, I only get as far as: > > >> > > >><http://www.rsrc.de/tmp/boot.jpg> > > >> > > >> and then the machine reboots. > > >> > > >> Iow grub comes up ok, I can select different > boot environments, > the > > >> initial boot message correctly reflects the > chosen snv_* version > from > > >> the boot env. > > >> Booting from 2009.06 live-CD works fine, so the > hardware is > basically > > >> ok. > > >> > > >> Any advice on how to go on ? Thanks! > > > > > > Probably need to boot from CD, import pool, > > > > Afair I'll have to force zpool to import not prior > exported pools. > > > > >rebuild /devices and recreate boot archive. > > > > ...some more hints on how to accomplish this would > be highly > > appreciated. bootadm update-archive -R ? Also, how > to rebuild > /devices > > ? devfsadm? > > > > Thanks! > > -Frank > > ___ > > opensolaris-discuss mailing list > > opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org > > > > -- > The lunatic, the lover, and the poet, > Are of imagination all compact... > -- Wm. Shakespeare, "A Midsummer Night's Dream" > ___ > opensolaris-discuss mailing list > opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org > -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [storage-discuss] Problems with iscsi initiator with opensolaris 2009.06
Just wondering if anyone worked out the problem with the slow reboot with iscsi. I am seeing this myself now. Andrew -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] very long wait in the end of pkg install
Hi, Performance was also pretty terrible on my old Core 2 Quad with 4GB RAM. That was one of the main reasons I switched to Nexenta (http://nexenta.org). Andy On 27 February 2010 10:52, Bruno Damour wrote: > well the whole install took 2 hours > for 1 pkg !! > it seems that disk read/write here is the bottleneck (?). > iostat -D 2 shows my hd busy at around 100% > iosnoop reports a lot of access by pkg : > > UID PID DBLOCK SIZE COMM PATHNAME > [...] >0 1666 R 35943541 4096pkg >0 1666 R 35689921 4096pkg >0 1666 R 4440824 4096pkg >1 465 R 14771611512 idmapd >0 1666 R 35921758 4096pkg >0 1666 R 4622752 4096pkg >1 465 R 14771611512 idmapd >0 1666 R 35914394 4096pkg >0 1666 R 4619760 4096pkg >1 465 R 14771611512 idmapd >0 1666 R 35927313 4096pkg >0 1666 R 4628296 4096pkg >1 465 R 14771611512 idmapd > 65535 626 R 4616648 4096 Xorg >0 1666 R 4628016 4096pkg >0 1666 R 4639352 4096pkg >0 1666 R 35668129 4096pkg >0 1666 R 4419792 4096pkg >1 465 R 14771611512 idmapd >0 1666 R 35745803 4096pkg >1 465 R 14771611512 idmapd >0 1666 R 35827415 4096pkg >0 1666 R 4560008 4096pkg >1 465 R 14771611512 idmapd >0 1666 R 30094080 65536pkg >1 465 R 14771611512 idmapd >0 1666 R 30321619 4096pkg >0 1666 R 4325904 4096pkg >1 465 R 14771611512 idmapd >0 1666 R 35841146 6144pkg >0 1666 R 35908772 4096pkg >1 465 R 14771611512 idmapd >0 1666 R 35855403 4096pkg >0 1666 R 35680068 4096pkg >0 1666 R 4431488 4096pkg >1 465 R 14771611512 idmapd >0 1666 R 35841146 6144pkg >0 1666 R 35925193 4096pkg >0 1666 R 4626176 4096pkg >1 465 R 14771611512 idmapd >0 1666 R 35924929 4096pkg >0 1666 R 4625912 4096pkg >1 465 R 14771611512 idmapd >0 1666 R 4494072 4096pkg >0 1666 R 4615440 4096pkg >0 1666 R 4581384 4096pkg >0 1666 R 30091646 6144pkg >1 465 R 14771611512 idmapd >0 1666 R 30320827 4096pkg >0 1666 R 4325112 4096pkg >1 465 R 14771611512 idmapd >0 1666 R 35687936 65536pkg >1 465 R 14771611512 idmapd >0 1666 R 35687571 4096pkg >0 1666 R 4438632 4096pkg >1 465 R 14771611512 idmapd >0 1666 R 35693271 4096pkg >0 1666 R 000 4096pkg >1 465 R 14771611512 idmapd >0 1666 R 35825142 6144pkg >0 1666 R 35833326 4096pkg >0 1666 R 4565544 4096pkg >1 465 R 14771611512 idmapd >0 1666 R 35812864 65536pkg >1 465 R 14771611512 idmapd >0 1666 R 35812610 4096pkg >0 1666 R 4553536 4096pkg >0 1666 R 35841146 6144pkg >0 1666 R 35972910 4096pkg >0 1666 R 4667736 4096pkg >1 465 R 14771611512 idmapd >0 1666 R 35925153 4096pkg >0 1666 R 4626136 4096pkg >1 465 R 14771611512 idmapd >0 1666 R 35958985 4096pkg >0 1666 R 4654040 4096pkg >1 465 R 14771611512 idmapd >0 1666 R 35928401 4096pkg >0 1666 R 4629384 4096pkg >1 465 R 14771611512 idmapd >0 1666 R 35927377 4096pkg >0 1666 R 4628360 4096pkg >1 465 R 14771611512 idmapd >0 1666 R 35709858 4096pkg >1 465 R 14771611512 idmapd >0 1666 R 35945429 4096pkg >1 465 R 14771611512 idmapd >0 1666 R 35825142 6144pkg >0 1666 R 35833702 4096pkg >1 465 R 14771611512 idmapd >0 1666 R 35841146 6144pkg >0 1666 R 35921280 65536pkg >1 465 R 14771611512 idmapd > [...] > > I have 4GB of swap, of which 3.6G free > > Any ideas someone ? > pkg is barely usable on this system > -- > This message posted from opensolaris.org > ___ > opensolaris-discuss mailing list > opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org > ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Unable to ugrade from b132 to b133 : system freeze
I thought it was a problem with the graphics driver, but you are right as soon as I start gdm the box dies and my remote ssh session are dead.. I will try again to see if I can get any error messages... Only got 1GB! Same here with me - thought that it may be some problem in the versions since 128a - but it happens more often. with 133 not as often as with 132 but yesterday 2 times. Thinkpad T61p with 4GB RAM - Virtualbox with win64 running . Freeze occurs in the same manner - tcp defensive mode on ... by by OS Andrew ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] b132 is out!
Not that one again :( On 5 February 2010 10:55, Ginn Chen wrote: > No, on the contrary, nightly builds are only against OpenSolaris. > It could not start on b132, because an old bug was triggered by a change > between snv_131 and snv_132. > > You can use "LD_BIND_NOW=1 ./firefox" to get around. > Setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH may also get around, but I don't understand why. > > Ginn > > On Feb 5, 2010, at 3:30 PM, W. Wayne Liauh wrote: > > >> For some reason Firefox 3.6 (tar.gz version) won't > >> start in b132 (it worked in b131). > > > > Looks like the nightly build was built only against S10? Please this not > be the case; so many people have worked so hard on OpenSolaris! > > -- > > This message posted from opensolaris.org > > ___ > > opensolaris-discuss mailing list > > opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org > > ___ > opensolaris-discuss mailing list > opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org > ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Intel GB NICs (82573 PCI-E) not working
Anything unusual in /var/adm/messages? On 2 February 2010 18:48, Amos Deering wrote: > Any More insight on this situation, I have a similar problem. > > I have 2 Intel Pro/1000 MT Dual Port cards and one AOC-SAT2-MV8 card. > > when the AOC-SAT2-MV8 is in the system the nics work, but when you transfer > a load of data over the intel nics I experience a hardware panic and the > system reboots. > > I can use the 2 On-Board Nvidia Nics just fine when the AOC-SAT2-MV8 is in. > > When I pull the AOC-SAT2-MV8 out the intel nics work just fine. > > Insight anyone? > -- > This message posted from opensolaris.org > ___ > opensolaris-discuss mailing list > opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org > ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Goodbye Sun.com
Well, I am sure over the next few weeks we will get lots of version upgrades: Oracle Studio 12.2 Oracle Solaris 10 02/10 and OracleOS 5.10.1 Andrew On 28/01/2010 21:02, Sergio Schvezov wrote: On Thu, 2010-01-28 at 22:24 +0800, Norbert P. Copones wrote: but a link to opensolaris is here. http://www.oracle.com/us/products/servers-storage/solaris/index.htm You also have Oracle Solaris Studio there :-P Will the former Sun Studio only work on Solaris in the near future? Or is this already the case? :-P ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Goodbye Sun.com
Has any one gone to http://www.sun.com today? You get http://www.oracle.com Very quick change -- Andrew Watkins * Birkbeck College http://notallmicrosoft.blogspot.com/ ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Reliable memory checking tool for C++ based applications?
Only one of those addresses automatic/stack variables: Purify. Even then, for Solaris you have to go back to Solaris 10u4 or so to get Purify support. Yes, dtrace can find memory leaks. But that's kind of like using a crowbar as a paperweight: it works, but there are a lot easier tools to use that are designed for that purpose. And even then, dtrace doesn't do array bounds or any other type of memory checking. If your code is portable, you'd probably be best off compiling it on Linux and running it under Purify there. That's what I do. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Opposite day?
Check this out: http://laptops.toshiba.com/laptops/tecra/M10 Where is says "Astonishingly thin, light and portable." ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Netbook Edition of OpenSolaris?
Hi Jason, Sounds to me like what you're after is StormOS (stormos.org) or even NexentaCore (nexenta.org). NexentaCore is basically Ubuntu Server Edition with an OpenSolaris kernel. StormOS adds a usable XFCE based desktop environment and a few other things to it. Andy. 2010/1/11 Jason Harvey > Well I've been switching back and forth from Ubuntu and OpenSolaris for a > while. I really do like OpenSolaris, but I was wondering if Sun was going to > optimise it for netbooks like what Ubuntu did with UNR? Maybe call it ONE? I > thought it was kinda catchy lol Just a suggestion for the developers out > there! > -- > This message posted from opensolaris.org > ___ > opensolaris-discuss mailing list > opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org > ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Bugster CR 6889221 Intel IOMMU fix which helps M10 shutdown bug CR 6913815
> Hi, > > The fix is on track to make build 132 and 2010.02. > > I have checked this issue. The R600 does power off > but it takes a very long > time (approx 2-3 minutes). Cool - thanks for the update. Andrew. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] build 130 nonsense
> On 01/ 5/10 06:12 AM, andrew wrote: > >> > >> On Jan 3, 2010, at 6:53 AM, andrew wrote: > >> > >>>> On 01/ 1/10 10:36 AM, andrew wrote: > >>>>> Sorry - my mistake. Still looking for ability > to > >>>> install from local files though. ;-) > >>>> > >>>> You can do that now as long as you're willing to > >> run > >>>> a depot server > >>>> (which is a very light-weight easy to start/run > >>>> process). > >>>> > >>>> However, if you're wanting to install "from > files" > >>>> without running a > >>>> depot server, that's still work in progress. > >>> > >>> Thanks for the info. However, I am still > surprised > >> that there is no ability to install from local > files > >> as we approach for 4th release. On the face of it, > it > >> would seem an easy thing to add. I guess if I > really > >> needed it I could add it myself. > >>> > >> > >> It isn't as trivial to add it as it might seem at > >> first glance, which is why it didn't get done for > >> this release. It was originally planned, but > there > >> has simply been been too much else needed for this > >> release (2010.x). There was significant > foundational > >> or higher priority work that had to be done first. > >> > >> The pkg(5) project is now at a point where new > >> subsystems require significant planning and > analysis. > >> An on-disk format is something that once added has > >> to remain relatively stable. As such, any formal > >> introduction of it has been purposefully delayed > to > >> ensure that there is as little pain as possible. > >> Please remember that the needs of the pkg(5) > system > >> are primarily driven by what is required to > deliver > >> OpenSolaris and the project is still in the > process > >> of addressing user needs. > > > > I haven't looked at the code but I was kind of > assuming that I wouldn't need to implement an on-disk > format - just replace code to suck files off the > network with code to fetch them off disk. However, I > have absolutely no knowledge of how any of it > actually works. ;-) > > > > Thank you for the clarification about what stage > the development of IPS is at. > > > > I will just add that we have built experimental media > that included a > repository and hacked up an installer that could > install from that > repository. The performance was not usable (6+ hour > install times, as I > recall), because the performance of random access to > files (which is > what happens in reading from the repository) on > stream-oriented media > like DVD's is hideously bad. That's interesting - I guess you do need an on-disk format for that. There are two obvious use cases for a file-based package: 1 is to do an OS install, the other is to just add packages to a system after you download them. It is sometimes quicker to download a tarbar and install it than it is to use pkg to suck each seperate file over the network. The obvious example is the SUNWman package. Cheers Andrew. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Bugster CR 6889221 Intel IOMMU fix which helps M10 shutdown bug CR 6913815
The following comments were added to CR 6913815: This is a IOMMU related issue. It's a dup of 6884091 Portege R600 doesn't power all-the-way down after "poweroff" is uttered if IOMMU is enabled Vikram is having a fix for this via 6889221, so I'm closing this as a dup of 6889221 also. Can you tell me if this fix is expected to make it into build 131 or 132, i.e. in time for 2010.02? Thanks Andrew. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Here's some more info for bugster CR 6913752
> > > > > andrew wrote: > cite="mid:1485805089.881262654193109.JavaMail.Twebapp > sf-app1" > type="cite"> > It doesn't have an option to use > external power, however I'm assuming I can power it > off a USB port on another PC. I'll give that a try > tomorrow. > I can tell you that the power is shut off to the USB > port since the eSATA enclosure has a blue light that > is illuminated when power is applied, and it goes > out. Windows 7 leaves it powered when it suspends to > disk (booted off the internal drive) whereas > OpenSolaris doing an S3 suspend powers it down. It > has no real reason to keep the USB port powered > though, since it doesn't know that's how the drive is > being powered. The drive seems to work fine powered from a second PC. Unfortunately the failure mode here is exactly the same - OpenSolaris resumes slowly from S3 but fails to bring back the console display. I don't have a keyboard for the second PC at the moment so I can't SSH into the OpenSolaris box to see what is going on, but when I do I'll have a poke around. What stuff should I be looking at? Thanks Andrew. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] build 130 nonsense
> > On Jan 3, 2010, at 6:53 AM, andrew wrote: > > >> On 01/ 1/10 10:36 AM, andrew wrote: > >>> Sorry - my mistake. Still looking for ability to > >> install from local files though. ;-) > >> > >> You can do that now as long as you're willing to > run > >> a depot server > >> (which is a very light-weight easy to start/run > >> process). > >> > >> However, if you're wanting to install "from files" > >> without running a > >> depot server, that's still work in progress. > > > > Thanks for the info. However, I am still surprised > that there is no ability to install from local files > as we approach for 4th release. On the face of it, it > would seem an easy thing to add. I guess if I really > needed it I could add it myself. > > > > It isn't as trivial to add it as it might seem at > first glance, which is why it didn't get done for > this release. It was originally planned, but there > has simply been been too much else needed for this > release (2010.x). There was significant foundational > or higher priority work that had to be done first. > > The pkg(5) project is now at a point where new > subsystems require significant planning and analysis. > An on-disk format is something that once added has > to remain relatively stable. As such, any formal > introduction of it has been purposefully delayed to > ensure that there is as little pain as possible. > Please remember that the needs of the pkg(5) system > are primarily driven by what is required to deliver > OpenSolaris and the project is still in the process > of addressing user needs. I haven't looked at the code but I was kind of assuming that I wouldn't need to implement an on-disk format - just replace code to suck files off the network with code to fetch them off disk. However, I have absolutely no knowledge of how any of it actually works. ;-) Thank you for the clarification about what stage the development of IPS is at. Cheers Andrew. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Here's some more info for bugster CR 6913752
> On 01/ 4/10 03:50 PM, andrew wrote: > > OK, I've installed OpenSolaris build 130 on the > internal hard drive and suspend to RAM and resume > both work absolutely fine with VT extensions > disabled. Cool! > > > > > > If your external drive has an option to use a > dedicated > power supply, it would be useful to know if the issue > is > a problem with eSATA or power being shut off on the > USB > port. It doesn't have an option to use external power, however I'm assuming I can power it off a USB port on another PC. I'll give that a try tomorrow. I can tell you that the power is shut off to the USB port since the eSATA enclosure has a blue light that is illuminated when power is applied, and it goes out. Windows 7 leaves it powered when it suspends to disk (booted off the internal drive) whereas OpenSolaris doing an S3 suspend powers it down. It has no real reason to keep the USB port powered though, since it doesn't know that's how the drive is being powered. Cheers Andrew. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Here's some more info for bugster CR 6913752
> > On 01/ 4/10 01:04 PM, andrew wrote: > > > Is your Tecra M10 an OpenSolaris model with the > > nVidia graphics or the more common variant with > Intel > > graphics? Mine has nVidia graphics and a build 130 > > install which was image-updated from build 125 > > doesn't come back up properly from suspend with VT > > disabled. Keyboard appears non-functional as is > the > > graphics but I've not checked the network. > > > > > > > NVIDIA graphics upgraded from b129 to b130. > > S3 S/R works fine on both 129 and 130 if VT is > > disabled > > in the SBIOS. > > Hmm that's odd. I wonder if it is because I'm booting > it off an eSATA hard drive powered from the USB > ports. I discovered the machine does come up after a > short delay, but the display doesn't come back, > either in text or graphics mode. It is the same > whether I shutdown from X or text mode console. > > I think I need to repartition my main hard drive ;-) OK, I've installed OpenSolaris build 130 on the internal hard drive and suspend to RAM and resume both work absolutely fine with VT extensions disabled. Cool! Andrew. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Toshiba M10 and B130
> > My Tosh M10 has been running 111b happily since > > September, for various reasons (main because I was > > using it to work) I did not upgrade. > > > > Over the break I tried an upgrade to b130, all I > got > > was a *very* slow and painful boot time, some > errors > > flashed passed about issues with xfs and then it > hung > > with no graphics. > > > > Ok, this is not a request to debug and get sorted > > (hence no detail), I would just appreciate a heads > of > > of it being worth my effort to either try and dig > > into it, OR, wait for 131 before I try again (and > > delve into it) . > > > > > > TIA > > Right, upgraded to 129 instead, I can now log in, > will probably try an upgrade to 130 later in the > week. (or go back to using snv_111b) > > In the mean time, I still have a long boot time. > > Also, once GDM starts and I log in, it is a long boot > time. > > The messages file contains the following about > "quirks" > > Red herring ? > or related to > http://bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bu > g_id=6858291 > > ---8< > Jan 4 18:31:20 YTCLaptop acpica: [ID 949988 > kern.notice] 20090521 dsobject-588 > Jan 4 18:31:20 YTCLaptop unix: [ID 190185 kern.info] > SMBIOS v2.5 loaded (1700 bytes) > Jan 4 18:31:20 YTCLaptop unix: [ID 972737 kern.info] > Skipping psm: xpv_psm > Jan 4 18:31:20 YTCLaptop rootnex: [ID 466748 > kern.info] root nexus = i86pc > Jan 4 18:31:20 YTCLaptop rootnex: [ID 681407 > kern.info] Start to check dmar related boot options > Jan 4 18:31:20 YTCLaptop rootnex: [ID 203952 > kern.info] Start to create iommu state structures > Jan 4 18:31:20 YTCLaptop rootnex: [ID 718377 > kern.warning] WARNING: Mobile 4 Series chipset > present, activating quirks > Jan 4 18:31:20 YTCLaptop rootnex: [ID 603838 > kern.warning] WARNING: Setting RWBF forcefully > Jan 4 18:31:20 YTCLaptop rootnex: [ID 303773 > kern.info]dmar0,0 state structure created > Jan 4 18:31:20 YTCLaptop rootnex: [ID 718377 > kern.warning] WARNING: Mobile 4 Series chipset > present, activating quirks > Jan 4 18:31:20 YTCLaptop rootnex: [ID 603838 > kern.warning] WARNING: Setting RWBF forcefully > Jan 4 18:31:20 YTCLaptop rootnex: [ID 303773 > kern.info]dmar0,1 state structure created > Jan 4 18:31:20 YTCLaptop rootnex: [ID 303773 > kern.info]dmar0,2 state structure created > Jan 4 18:31:20 YTCLaptop rootnex: [ID 718377 > kern.warning] WARNING: Mobile 4 Series chipset > present, activating quirks > Jan 4 18:31:20 YTCLaptop rootnex: [ID 603838 > kern.warning] WARNING: Setting RWBF forcefully > Jan 4 18:31:20 YTCLaptop rootnex: [ID 303773 > kern.info]dmar0,3 state structure created > > --8< I've no idea what these messages mean but they disappeared after I upgraded to build 130. Don't know why you have a long boot time but I've not tried upgrading from 2009.06 (which is build 111b). Cheers Andrew. Message was edited by: andrewk7 -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Here's some more info for bugster CR 6913752
> On 01/ 4/10 02:59 PM, andrew wrote: > > Hmm that's odd. I wonder if it is because I'm > booting it off an eSATA hard drive powered from the > USB ports. > > > What does "powered" mean? > > The Tecra M10 has an eSATA port on the left side. It is connected via the eSATA port and draws its power from the 5V rail on the USB ports via a cable. Cheers Andrew. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Here's some more info for bugster CR 6913752
> On 01/ 4/10 01:04 PM, andrew wrote: > > Is your Tecra M10 an OpenSolaris model with the > nVidia graphics or the more common variant with Intel > graphics? Mine has nVidia graphics and a build 130 > install which was image-updated from build 125 > doesn't come back up properly from suspend with VT > disabled. Keyboard appears non-functional as is the > graphics but I've not checked the network. > > > > NVIDIA graphics upgraded from b129 to b130. > S3 S/R works fine on both 129 and 130 if VT is > disabled > in the SBIOS. Hmm that's odd. I wonder if it is because I'm booting it off an eSATA hard drive powered from the USB ports. I discovered the machine does come up after a short delay, but the display doesn't come back, either in text or graphics mode. It is the same whether I shutdown from X or text mode console. I think I need to repartition my main hard drive ;-) Cheers Andrew. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Here's some more info for bugster CR 6913752
> > On 01/ 4/10 05:07 AM, andrew wrote: > > > This bug is "Toshiba M10 takes too long to > > suspend-to-RAM". This problem only occurs if VT > > extensions are enabled. If they are disabled, > suspend > > to RAM appears to succeed in the expected > timeframe. > > However, resuming fails if VT extensions are > > disabled. > > > > > > I was unaware that with VT extensions enabled > > suspend to RAM was slow - I thought the machine > was > > hung. Resuming may therefore work fine with VT > > extensions enabled - I have no knowledge of this. > > > > > > > > I tried multiple cycles on b130 with SBIOS 3.00. > If > VT is disabled, > both S3 suspend and resume work fine. If VT is > enabled, S3 suspend > takes a little over three minutes with the fan > spinning loudly for most > of that time. S3 resume doesn't complete with VT > enabled where the > disk LED flashes at two second intervals. I left > it > in this state for well > over 10 minutes before power cycling. > > Is your Tecra M10 an OpenSolaris model with the > nVidia graphics or the more common variant with Intel > graphics? Mine has nVidia graphics and a build 130 > install which was image-updated from build 125 > doesn't come back up properly from suspend with VT > disabled. Keyboard appears non-functional as is the > graphics but I've not checked the network. > > Cheers > > Andrew. Sorry, forgot to mention I'm also running BIOS version 3.0.0 -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Here's some more info for bugster CR 6913752
> On 01/ 4/10 05:07 AM, andrew wrote: > > This bug is "Toshiba M10 takes too long to > suspend-to-RAM". This problem only occurs if VT > extensions are enabled. If they are disabled, suspend > to RAM appears to succeed in the expected timeframe. > However, resuming fails if VT extensions are > disabled. > > > > I was unaware that with VT extensions enabled > suspend to RAM was slow - I thought the machine was > hung. Resuming may therefore work fine with VT > extensions enabled - I have no knowledge of this. > > > > > I tried multiple cycles on b130 with SBIOS 3.00. If > VT is disabled, > both S3 suspend and resume work fine. If VT is > enabled, S3 suspend > takes a little over three minutes with the fan > spinning loudly for most > of that time. S3 resume doesn't complete with VT > enabled where the > disk LED flashes at two second intervals. I left it > in this state for well > over 10 minutes before power cycling. Is your Tecra M10 an OpenSolaris model with the nVidia graphics or the more common variant with Intel graphics? Mine has nVidia graphics and a build 130 install which was image-updated from build 125 doesn't come back up properly from suspend with VT disabled. Keyboard appears non-functional as is the graphics but I've not checked the network. Cheers Andrew. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Bugster CR 6870290 and CR 6913815 - shutdown/restart and S3 suspend problems on Tecra M10
Many thanks. Andrew. > Hi Andrew, > > I fwded your e-mail to RandyF. > > Best regards, > > Milan > > andrew píše v po 04. 01. 2010 v 02:16 -0800: > > > I filed 6913815 since I didn't see it tracked > > > elsewhere - the Tecra M10 won't shutdown or > restart > > > through BIOS if VT extensions are enabled. I also > see > > > related bug 6870290 that was marked - "defer - no > > > resource" in bugster in August this year. Can > anyone > > > tell me if there is resource to look at either of > > > these for 2010.02? > > > > > > The responsible engineer for 6913815 but my > attempt > > > to guess his sun email address has failed. :-( > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Andrew. > > > > > > Message was edited by: andrewk7 > > > > That last bit should have read: > > > > The responsible engineer for 6913815 is Randy > Fishel but my attempt to guess his sun email address > has failed. :-( > > > ___ > opensolaris-discuss mailing list > opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Bugster CR 6870290 and CR 6913815 - shutdown/restart and S3 suspend problems on Tecra M10
> I filed 6913815 since I didn't see it tracked > elsewhere - the Tecra M10 won't shutdown or restart > through BIOS if VT extensions are enabled. I also see > related bug 6870290 that was marked - "defer - no > resource" in bugster in August this year. Can anyone > tell me if there is resource to look at either of > these for 2010.02? > > The responsible engineer for 6913815 but my attempt > to guess his sun email address has failed. :-( > > Thanks > > Andrew. > > Message was edited by: andrewk7 That last bit should have read: The responsible engineer for 6913815 is Randy Fishel but my attempt to guess his sun email address has failed. :-( -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Bugster CR 6870290 and CR 6913815 - shutdown/restart and S3 suspend problems on Tecra M10
I filed 6913815 since I didn't see it tracked elsewhere - the Tecra M10 won't shutdown or restart through BIOS if VT extensions are enabled. I also see related bug 6870290 that was marked - "defer - no resource" in bugster in August this year. Can anyone tell me if there is resource to look at either of these for 2010.02? The responsible engineer for 6913815 but my attempt to guess his sun email address has failed. :-( Thanks Andrew. Message was edited by: andrewk7 -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Here's some more info for bugster CR 6913752
This bug is "Toshiba M10 takes too long to suspend-to-RAM". This problem only occurs if VT extensions are enabled. If they are disabled, suspend to RAM appears to succeed in the expected timeframe. However, resuming fails if VT extensions are disabled. I was unaware that with VT extensions enabled suspend to RAM was slow - I thought the machine was hung. Resuming may therefore work fine with VT extensions enabled - I have no knowledge of this. Cheers Andrew. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] build 130 nonsense
> On 01/ 1/10 10:36 AM, andrew wrote: > > Sorry - my mistake. Still looking for ability to > install from local files though. ;-) > > You can do that now as long as you're willing to run > a depot server > (which is a very light-weight easy to start/run > process). > > However, if you're wanting to install "from files" > without running a > depot server, that's still work in progress. Thanks for the info. However, I am still surprised that there is no ability to install from local files as we approach for 4th release. On the face of it, it would seem an easy thing to add. I guess if I really needed it I could add it myself. Andrew. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] build 130 nonsense
> andrew wrote: > >> We've never had 2 copies of all the packages on > the > >> live CD - why do you think > >> there are? > > > > Because I was under the impression that there are > two copies of each piece of software on the live CD - > executable directly from the CD and as cpio archives > for installation. The inability of the packaging > system to support installation from a local > filesystem is something which should have been > addressed before the 4th release, I would suggest. As > should some way of getting rid of one of the copies > on the live CD. > > That's how the old Solaris installer works (the one > in SXCE and Solaris 10), > but it has a much more limited miniroot that is > booted, without a lot of the > LiveCD functionality, so it minimizes the duplication > (not enough so that it > can fit the miniroot plus initial packages on a > single CD in recent Nevada > builds, which is why SXCE has been DVD only for a > while). > > As Shawn already explained, that's not the way the > OpenSolaris LiveCD works. Sorry - my mistake. Still looking for ability to install from local files though. ;-) Cheers Andrew. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] build 130 nonsense
> On 12/30/09 08:01 AM, andrew wrote: > > > > My problem is that the "print manager" entry on the > administration menu is now dead - nothing ever > appears after clicking on it and there is no obvious > way to get access to the GUI administration for > printing. The novice user is therefore stuck with no > obvious way to get printing going. See > http://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=13626 > > > > The CUPS GUI worked for me on b130 when setting up > my HP printer: > >http://localhost:631/admin That's distinctly non-obvious (unless you happen to know where the CUPS web interface lives of course). I'm talking about the "Print Manager" thingy on the System -> Administration menu - see the bug I filed above. I've also set it as a blocker for the release of 2010.02 since it is a regression compared to the previous release (2009.06). I really need to get on with my honours project - which is on Solaris Zones btw. Instead I've spent the past day filing bugs in nice new bugs in OpenSolaris. I guess that's the price I pay for being on the bleeding edge. ;-) Cheers Andrew. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] build 130 nonsense
> > > andrew wrote: > > So OpenSolaris 2010.02 will not even support > printing out of the box, I now need to download and > install several meg of packages just to print? > > Of course 2010.03 will support printing - is your > problem a printer not > supported by the included CUPS drivers? My problem is that the "print manager" entry on the administration menu is now dead - nothing ever appears after clicking on it and there is no obvious way to get access to the GUI administration for printing. The novice user is therefore stuck with no obvious way to get printing going. See http://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=13626 > > > We've had 3 releases of OpenSolaris already and > we've still got 2 copies of all the packages on the > live CD, > > We've never had 2 copies of all the packages on the > live CD - why do you think > there are? Because I was under the impression that there are two copies of each piece of software on the live CD - executable directly from the CD and as cpio archives for installation. The inability of the packaging system to support installation from a local filesystem is something which should have been addressed before the 4th release, I would suggest. As should some way of getting rid of one of the copies on the live CD. > > > And where can I find a list of stuff that has been > jettisoned for 2010.02 since there is obviously no > way to get them put back in. > > install-discuss and/or indiana-discuss would be the > place to ask about what's on > or off the LiveCD. The list is changing build to > build as work is done, so > that would be where discussions about adding things > back may be most productive. > > -- > -Alan Coopersmith- > - alan.coopersm...@sun.com > Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System > em Engineering > > ___ > opensolaris-discuss mailing list > opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] build 130 nonsense
So OpenSolaris 2010.02 will not even support printing out of the box, I now need to download and install several meg of packages just to print? And I can't select UK locale either. What the hell is going on here? We've had 3 releases of OpenSolaris already and we've still got 2 copies of all the packages on the live CD, which means we can only have about half the software we could of on it. Where has the bloat been since 2009.06 was released and where was the discussion about what bits got flung out for 2010.02? And where can I find a list of stuff that has been jettisoned for 2010.02 since there is obviously no way to get them put back in. Not happy! Andrew. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Is the default 512MB to small for swap
I am just wondering if the default lower limit should be increased from 512MB when installed on small memory machines and depending on size of disk! The reason is I just tried a image-update of OpenSolaris 2009.06 to the latest dev release 127 and had the following message: "pkg: There is not enough memory to complete the requested operation. At least 239MB of virtual memory was in use by this command before it ran out of memory." The machine has 1Gig of memory (which I know is small these days) and the default swap which was 512MB. I was logged in remotely so was not running the gnome desktop on the machine but did have CIFS enabled (idmap size=815M, RSS=161M) QUOTE: "The swap volume size that is created during an initial installation is based on 1/2 the size of physical memory, but is generally in the 512 Mbyte to 2 Gbyte range." from opensolaris.org Andrew PS. before some one says to increase it I did! # zfs set volsize=1G rpool/swap ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Why is using Package Manager such a pain in the A$$?
Nexenta.org 2009/11/24 Chad Welsh > I guess when people don't like the truth they stop helping no matter, huh? > Well you all have a fun time with Sol-nux and stay in your yummy gummy dream > world while us true believers stomp the turf with the tried and true heavy > metal hitter solaris 10 and its Step brother that is beaten to death by the > Sol-nux fanatics SX:CE > > It hasn't been fun!! > -- > This message posted from opensolaris.org > ___ > opensolaris-discuss mailing list > opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org > ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] OpenSolaris build 127 crashes on boot under VMware
I am trying to get build 127 working on VMware but it keeps panicking on boot. I have remembered to disable the pcieb driver which got previous builds working, but this build is not happy. It won't boot in either 32 or 64-bit mode. Is this a known bug and if so, what is the bug number? Thanks Andrew. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] OpenSolaris Tecra M10 laptop hangs on shutdown & reboot
My OpenSolaris Tecra M10 has a problem running the latest builds of OpenSolaris which doesn't happen with 2009.06 . The problem is that when I attempt to shutdown the machine it hangs. I get the "syncing file systems... done" message then it stops. I get a similar result when rebooting. Is this a known bug? Thanks Andrew. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] AMD based motherboard recommendations?
I can confirm the Asus M3A78-EM works nicely with OS. I've been running this since ~200811 with an AM2 proc, 4x 2GB DDR2 ECC DIMMs and a combination of onboard SATA and an AOC-USASLP-L8i. The onboard SATA controller (5x ports +1 eSATA) works in both IDE and SATA mode (although I recall some issues in SATA mode on earlier builds). The NIC is detected and supports jumbo frames. No issues with onboard video. Haven't tested power management, but it shuts down gracefully if I press the power button. HTH -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris under Oracle?
Pen-Yuan Hsing wrote: Yeah, they keep mentioning Solaris, but not OpenSolaris. I like OpenSolaris a lot, but in my opinion it is still "rough" on the edges especially as a "day-to-day" desktop OS. So hopefully OpenSolaris development will be supported after the merger. I think it will be a while before Oracle supports OpenSolaris for the reasons you mention. They will concentrate on Server releases and who can blame them. Anyway, Solaris x64 will now get the same level of support as Solaris SPARC so at least they are going in the right direction and who knows what will be round the corner. Andrew -- Andrew Watkins * Birkbeck College http://notallmicrosoft.blogspot.com/ ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] gnome-keyring-daemon - what starts it
It usually gets started by the session manager, just gnome-settings-manager, etc.. 2009/10/15 Harry Putnam > I'm getting messages about gnome-keyring-daemon: > > Oct 15 10:38:32 zfs gnome-keyring-daemon[1942]: [ID 702911 > auth.notice] couldn't open store file: > /export/home/reader/.gnome2/keyrings/user.keystore: Resource > temporarily unavailable > > I haven't purposely started such a daemon, nor do I care to have it > running. > > I don't find anthing about it at svcs -a |grep gnome so how is this > thing getting started... and why? > > ___ > opensolaris-discuss mailing list > opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org > ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] OT: Re: Oracle 10g on OpenSolaris (Solaris 5.11)
casper@sun.com wrote: That's not entirely true; quite a few people argued for "scripting at install" and they were denied as there was clearly not a discussion but more of a "this is the plan and we're not changing it". These people have unsubscribed because they felt there was no actual discussion taking place. I think that our large customers are underrepresented in OpenSolaris and I fear that the way AI-Install works complete disregards our most important customers, at least, that is what some of them say to me. The problem is that there has been all this great talk about AI, but the software is really in it very early stages and as you say does not offer all the features of Jumpstart (and may never do). AI requirements http://opensolaris.org/os/project/caiman/auto_install/AI_Reqs_Final e.g. 4.2 Will provide initial install support - Does not mention scripting in any form ...etc 8.1.1 Will support http, https client/ server protocols 8.1.4 Will support boot from network but use local client profile on USB, CD/DVD 8.2.1 CD/DVD/USB automated installation will be supported -- Andrew Watkins * Birkbeck College http://notallmicrosoft.blogspot.com/ ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Installing OpenSolaris 2009.06 on a P3 machine with 1GB RAM
> Hi, > andrew wrote: > > Yes. This problem is usually caused my your hard > disk controller not being supported by OpenSolaris. > Can you run the "Device Detection Tool" on the > desktop and see what it says about your disk > controller? > > Yes, the Device driver utility shows the disk > controller driver missing. > Here is the exact info: > > Storage->Broadcom OSB4 IDE Controller->pc-ide > ->Adaptec AIC 7892P > U160/m->Missing(driver-unavailable). > Is there any way to install the driver or are there > any workarounds for > this? A quick google reveals that there does not appear to be any Solaris driver for this controller. You will either need to use a different SCSI controller - one that is listed in the Hardware Compatability List (HCL) - or attach an IDE disk to the IDE controller instead. Cheers Andrew. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Unable to access the open solaris across the network..Urg!!!
> I have installed Open Solaris 10 and i configured the > machine using sys-unconfig. > urg=Urgent. > > Any ideas around it? Which network service are you trying to access? SSH? NFS? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
