Re: [opensuse-factory] meeting minutes of last dist meeting
Juan Erbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And what about avahi-compat-mDNSResponder? Digikam do'nt works any more to connect to the cam's. With mDNSResponder digikam worked fine, but now mDNSResponder was dropped and its previous versions are no more compatible. https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=239719 We will fix those problems for 10.3, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpEGGhC9d7JB.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] python-elementtree in Factory
On Friday 23 February 2007 5:07 pm, Christoph Thiel wrote: On Fri, Feb 23, 2007 at 02:22:27PM -0400, James Oakley wrote: I've noticed that python-elementtree was removed in Factory. Will it be returning? No, most likely it won't. It's a very popular module that's used in a lot of Python projects, including osc. osc already has code in place to use Python 2.5's xml.etree. (We just need to drop the python-elementtree requirement for $dist = 10.2). All other packages that depended on python-elementtree should have been patched to use xml.etree. If there are still hidden problems with this, let me know! Is there any functionally that existed in python-elementtree, which is not part of xml.etree that you relied on? (I only know of SimpleXMLWriter, which was only used by repoview and therefore is now being shipped with repoview.) A list of differences can be found at http://codespeak.net/lxml/compatibility.html I have no problem porting my code, but other people may have trouble. Why not make ElementTree raise a DeprecationWarning for a short period to give people a chance to catch up? -- James Oakley [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] python-elementtree in Factory
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 10:39:59AM -0400, James Oakley wrote: osc already has code in place to use Python 2.5's xml.etree. (We just need to drop the python-elementtree requirement for $dist = 10.2). All other packages that depended on python-elementtree should have been patched to use xml.etree. If there are still hidden problems with this, let me know! Is there any functionally that existed in python-elementtree, which is not part of xml.etree that you relied on? (I only know of SimpleXMLWriter, which was only used by repoview and therefore is now being shipped with repoview.) A list of differences can be found at http://codespeak.net/lxml/compatibility.html Are you sure this is really the in-tree Python 2.5 etree.xml? It looks like a different thing to me -- at first glace. I have no problem porting my code, but other people may have trouble. Why not make ElementTree raise a DeprecationWarning for a short period to give people a chance to catch up? I guess we can add the package back, in case it really turns out to be a problem. But as of today I'm not aware of any. Best, Christoph -- Christoph Thiel, Tech. Project Management, Research Development SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] meeting minutes of last dist meeting
2007/2/26, Andreas Jaeger [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Juan Erbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And what about avahi-compat-mDNSResponder? Digikam do'nt works any more to connect to the cam's. With mDNSResponder digikam worked fine, but now mDNSResponder was dropped and its previous versions are no more compatible. https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=239719 We will fix those problems for 10.3, And now, how can I download the pictures from my cam? Regards - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] improve boot time
Am Samstag 24 Februar 2007 schrieb Collin Marc: hi suse boot time is very slow, about 54 sec on my dual core 4200+, 1 gig of ram. I removed a lot of services. http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/91107/bootchart-png.html this kind of system should booted in less than 30 sec Do you happen to have a bootchart of your system where it doesn't wait 15s for your crypto password? Greetings, Stephan -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] python-elementtree in Factory
On Monday 26 February 2007 11:12 am, Christoph Thiel wrote: A list of differences can be found at http://codespeak.net/lxml/compatibility.html Are you sure this is really the in-tree Python 2.5 etree.xml? It looks like a different thing to me -- at first glace. Ah, you're right. lxml.etree is an ElementTree implementation under lxml, and xml.etree is a subset of Fredrik Lundh's module. I have no problem porting my code, but other people may have trouble. Why not make ElementTree raise a DeprecationWarning for a short period to give people a chance to catch up? I guess we can add the package back, in case it really turns out to be a problem. But as of today I'm not aware of any. According to this, xml.etree is a subset of the full distribution: http://docs.python.org/whatsnew/modules.html#SECTION000142 For myself, this is not really a problem, since I can update my code and I only use core features. However, there are plenty of programs that use ElementTree directly that are not supplied in OpenSUSE. I know of a couple of programs that are using local forks of some of my code using ElementTree. -- James Oakley [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] python-elementtree in Factory
On Monday 26 February 2007 4:21 pm, Christoph Thiel wrote: The way I see it, most projects actually ship their own in-tree copy of ElementTree (e.g. smart does). So, most of the stuff should be alright -- or needs to be ported to 2.5's xml.etree anyways. So, for now, I'd suggest we stick with the current sitation -- without python-elementtree. If it turns out, there is actual demand for it, we will have to reconsider. That's cool. I'll send patches downstream to the projects using my code. Thanks, -- James Oakley [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] Will Suse 10.3 include Xen 3.0.5 ?
I was wondering if there are plans to upgrade to Xen 3.0.5 if released before 10.3 ? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Beryl and xgl
On Fri, 2007-02-23 at 15:42 +0100, Matthias Hopf wrote: On Feb 21, 07 16:01:44 +0200, Hans van der Merwe wrote: Before I run gnome-xgl-switch, glxinfo indicates direct rendering: Yes, X nice and fast After gnome-xgl-switch --enable-xgl and X restart I get direct rendering: No, and X is really slow, unusable (before even starting beryl) - Direct rendering: No is a FAQ: read http://en.opensuse.org/Xgl#Frequently_Asked_Questions_.28FAQ.29 - Using Xgl *without* a composition manager is typically pretty slow. - Beryl is unsupported from our side. So before doing any bug reports (if issues remain) please test with compiz first. Beryl performance is ok, not great, but I guess that's because of rending being off. No. There is a patched Xgl version since yesterday, which accelerates intel and radeon drivers. You might want to test it: http://software.opensuse.org/download/X11:/XGL/ Thanks, but I switched to AIGLX, it just works better IMHO. I need Google Earth to work alongside GL desktop. E-Mail disclaimer: http://www.sunspace.co.za/emaildisclaimer.htm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Beryl and xgl
On Fri, 2007-02-23 at 15:44 +0100, Matthias Hopf wrote: On Feb 21, 07 16:21:09 +0200, Hans van der Merwe wrote: My home PC, nvidia 6600, rocks with aiglx enabled. Never ever compare low-end intel i945 with mid-to-high-end nvidia 6600. The hardware is *much* more capable, and the drivers are much better (they have a *much* larger development team, and access to hardware guys). nvidia also flies on Xgl. Yes, but does Xgl allow other GL apps (who needs direct rendering, ie GoogleEarth) to run smoothly? E-Mail disclaimer: http://www.sunspace.co.za/emaildisclaimer.htm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Microsoft ordered to pay Alcatel-Lucent $1.5 bln in patent case - MarketWatch
On Monday 26 February 2007 2:05 am, Mathias Homann wrote: I don't think that People should ... is within the scope of this list. Put your preaching on slashdot. you might even get an article there. Touched a nerve, did we? All I did was reply to someone who wrote MS should... and agree with that statement and expand it to people in general. By the way, PEOPLE SHOULD STOP USING MP3! kubuntu is also not withinhe scope of this list. Since when are people's sigs expected to be in the scope of the list? But since you brought it up, I use kubuntu, mepis, mandriva, and fedora because my repeated efforts to use suse 10.1 and 10.2 were unsatisfactory. The primary problem for me is package management. I used suse from 6.0-9.2. During those years I was BUYING the PROFESSIONAL retail boxed version, GLADLY paying $75.00 for a quality product. How horrible of me for still being interested in suse and hoping someday I can use it again. Bryan -- Powered by Mepis Linux 6.0 KDE 3.5.3 KMail 1.9.3 This is a Microsoft-free computer Bryan S. Tyson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] KNetworkManager Weirdness
Am Freitag, 23. Februar 2007 16:46 schrieb Kai Ponte: On Friday 23 February 2007 06:20:36 am Helmut Schaa wrote: Am Freitag, 23. Februar 2007 15:15 schrieb Kai Ponte: It appears the password isn't being kept for some reason. Could KWallet be failing? Is KWallet activated (kwalletmanager - configure)? Helmut Yes, and knetworkmanager is set to always allow. Wierd, like i said in my OP, it worked fine for the past year or so. I just disabled my passphrase (I still have the MAC locked down) for now. Try the following: Connect to your net by using the connect to other wlan... option. If the connection was successful close KNetworkManager and have a look at ~/.kde/share/config/knetworkmanagerrc. There has to be a section named like [Network_...] with an entry ESSID that matches yours. Please post this section here. Afterwards open your KWalletManager, open the wallet and step into the knetworkmanager directory (if there is one). Is there yout secret stored? Helmut -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] FreeNX problem on 10.2 nxclient rendering issue
On Mon, 2007-02-26 at 01:34 -0500, tleslie wrote: On a fresh 10.2 install my nxclient 2.1.0-11 works, in that i get to the window desktop on a remote server (running nxserver/node), but its broke, objects come up from the windows desktop as blocks, no print, etc, i tried it out of compiz, still doesn't work. You say compiz? So you are running Xgl? Does NX work with anything else than X? E-Mail disclaimer: http://www.sunspace.co.za/emaildisclaimer.htm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Kong jumps to top
I've noticed an annoying habit of Konqueror while web browsing. Go to any page, such as slashdot, scroll to bottom and click a link. Why does Kong repaint the slashdot page from the top before jumping to the clicked link. This is slow, irritating, and often a little confusing. I don't remember this always being the case. -- _ John Andersen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] hal detecting pressed dvds as empty mediums
After installing a Plextor 760A, on every pressed dvd I try to read I get the
option to create a cd/dvd with k3b. The problem does not apear on written
dvd+-r or pressed cd.
The drive is updated with the latest official firmware. openSUSE 10.2 is with
the
latest patches from online update
The kernel gives me the message:
cdrom: This disc doesn't have any tracks I recognize!
Here comes the related sections of lshal:
udi = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/storage_serial_437395'
block.minor = 0 (0x0) (int)
storage.requires_eject = true (bool)
info.capabilities = {'storage', 'block', 'storage.cdrom'} (string list)
storage.bus = 'ide' (string)
storage.cdrom.support_media_changed = true (bool)
storage.removable.media_available = true (bool)
storage.cdrom.hddvdr = false (bool)
org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.resmgr.method_names = {'Grant', 'Revoke'} (string
list)
info.category = 'storage' (string)
info.product = 'PLEXTOR DVDR PX-760A' (string)
storage.drive_type = 'cdrom' (string)
storage.hotpluggable = false (bool)
storage.physical_device =
'/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_8086_24cb_ide_1_0' (string)
storage.vendor = '' (string)
storage.media_check_enabled = true (bool)
storage.cdrom.read_speed = 7056 (0x1b90) (int)
org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Storage.method_names = {'Eject', 'CloseTray'}
(string list)
storage.cdrom.dvd = true (bool)
storage.removable.media_size = 8509095936 (0x1fb2e8000) (uint64)
block.is_volume = false (bool)
storage.firmware_version = '1.06' (string)
storage.cdrom.bdre = false (bool)
block.storage_device = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/storage_serial_437395'
(string)
info.addons = {'hald-addon-storage'} (string list)
storage.serial = '437395' (string)
info.parent = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_8086_24cb_ide_1_0' (string)
storage.cdrom.dvdplusr = true (bool)
org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.resmgr.method_signatures = {'', ''} (string list)
storage.size = 0 (0x0) (uint64)
storage.cdrom.write_speed = 8467 (0x2113) (int)
org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Storage.method_signatures = {'as', 'as'} (string
list)
block.device = '/dev/hdc' (string)
info.callouts.add = {'hal-resmgr'} (string list)
org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Storage.method_argnames = {'extra_options',
'extra_options'} (string list
)
storage.cdrom.cdr = true (bool)
storage.no_partitions_hint = true (bool)
storage.cdrom.bdr = false (bool)
storage.removable = true (bool)
storage.cdrom.dvdram = false (bool)
storage.cdrom.dvdplusrwdl = false (bool)
storage.cdrom.write_speeds = {'8467', '5645', '2822', '1411', '706'} (string
list)
storage.cdrom.dvdr = true (bool)
info.interfaces = {'org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Storage',
'org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Storage', 'org.
freedesktop.Hal.Device.resmgr'} (string list)
org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Storage.method_execpaths = {'hal-storage-eject',
'hal-storage-closetray'}
(string list)
storage.model = 'PLEXTOR DVDR PX-760A' (string)
info.udi = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/storage_serial_437395' (string)
info.callouts.remove = {'hal-resmgr'} (string list)
storage.cdrom.dvdplusrdl = true (bool)
storage.cdrom.bd = false (bool)
storage.cdrom.hddvdrw = false (bool)
block.major = 22 (0x16) (int)
resmgr.class = 'cdrom' (string)
linux.hotplug_type = 3 (0x3) (int)
storage.cdrom.cdrw = true (bool)
storage.cdrom.dvdplusrw = true (bool)
org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.resmgr.method_argnames = {'', ''} (string list)
linux.sysfs_path = '/sys/block/hdc' (string)
storage.cdrom.dvdrw = true (bool)
storage.automount_enabled_hint = true (bool)
linux.sysfs_path_device = '/sys/block/hdc' (string)
storage.cdrom.hddvd = false (bool)
org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.resmgr.method_execpaths = {'hal-resmgr-grant',
'hal-resmgr-revoke'} (stri
ng list)
udi = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/volume_empty_dvd_rom'
block.minor = 0 (0x0) (int)
volume.label = '' (string)
volume.disc.has_data = false (bool)
org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume.method_names = {'Eject', 'Eject'} (string
list)
info.capabilities = {'volume.disc', 'volume', 'block'} (string list)
volume.disc.capacity = 8509095936 (0x1fb2e8000) (uint64)
volume.is_partition = false (bool)
volume.mount_point = '' (string)
info.category = 'volume' (string)
volume.disc.is_appendable = false (bool)
volume.is_disc = true (bool)
volume.is_mounted = false (bool)
block.is_volume = true (bool)
volume.linux.is_device_mapper = false (bool)
block.storage_device = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/storage_serial_437395'
(string)
info.parent = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/storage_serial_437395' (string)
volume.disc.has_audio = false (bool)
volume.block_size = 0 (0x0) (int)
volume.num_blocks = 16619328 (0xfd9740) (int)
volume.fsversion = '' (string)
block.device = '/dev/hdc' (string)
volume.uuid = '' (string)
volume.disc.is_rewritable = false (bool)
volume.fsusage = '' (string)
volume.is_mounted_read_only = false (bool)
volume.disc.is_blank = true (bool)
[opensuse] Pre-Installed Linux On Dells Coming!!
When Michael Dell took back the reins of he company he founded, one of the first things he did was to launch the feedback site Dell Idea Storm. Following up on the recent Slashdot discussion of the early results of this experiment — an overwhelming expressed desire for pre-loaded Linux — Dell reports on what it plans to do with this feedback. Quoting: [W]e are working with Novell to certify our corporate client products for Linux, including our OptiPlex desktops, Latitude notebooks and Dell Precision workstations. [On the question of which distro to choose:] [T]here is no single customer preference for a distribution of Linux... We want users to have the opportunity to help define the market for Linux on desktop and notebook systems. In addition to working with Novell, we are also working with other distributors and evaluating the possibility of additional certifications across our product line. http://www.dell.com/content/topics/global.aspx/ideastorm/ideasinaction?c=usl=ens=gen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] KNetworkManager: Such a tramp!
Am Sonntag, 25. Februar 2007 05:05 schrieb John Andersen: On Saturday 24 February 2007, Kai Ponte wrote: I had the same issue for a year or so until I activated KWallet. I let KNetwork manager have access to KWallet and it now correctly connects to my WPA secured network rather than my neighbors' unsecured networks. Mine has access to the wallet too. (That is another issue that gripes me. Why should I have to run a passwordless wallet in order to allow boot time connection to wireless, and thereby putting all my personal settings and passwords at risk? You can configure a system wide wifi connection using yast. NetworkManager will activate it on boot. Why does knetworkmanager need to store wireless keys in a wallet? How secret do these things have to be? Why can't it store it in regular file with restrictive permissions? Good point, I thougth about letting the user choose if he wants to store the keys unencrypted (e.g. in the knm config file or in a seperate passwordless wallet) a while ago too. Perhaps we get that into the next major release. But I digress. Merely having the keys in the wallet does not seem sufficient to cause it to prefer the wet/wpa connections to the un-secured neighbors wifi. Open the show networks... dialog and delete your neighbors networks. Only your's should stay. Helmut -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] KNetworkManager: Such a tramp!
On Sat, 2007-02-24 at 19:05 -0900, John Andersen wrote: On Saturday 24 February 2007, Kai Ponte wrote: I had the same issue for a year or so until I activated KWallet. I let KNetwork manager have access to KWallet and it now correctly connects to my WPA secured network rather than my neighbors' unsecured networks. Mine has access to the wallet too. (That is another issue that gripes me. Why should I have to run a passwordless wallet in order to allow boot time connection to wireless, and thereby putting all my personal settings and passwords at risk? Why does knetworkmanager need to store wireless keys in a wallet? How secret do these things have to be? Why can't it store it in regular file with restrictive permissions? But I digress. Merely having the keys in the wallet does not seem sufficient to cause it to prefer the wet/wpa connections to the un-secured neighbors wifi. On this topic. It seems that KNetworkManager adopted the NO config options for idiot users approach of its Gnome ancestor. I need buttons to press and checkboxes to check dammit. Things I need to set myself: 1. Where to keep passwords 2. Edit config settings of wireless networks 3. Edit priority list of networks 4. Make dialup status indicator work and more... Today is the day I fire-up bugzilla. E-Mail disclaimer: http://www.sunspace.co.za/emaildisclaimer.htm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [opensuse] Beryl and xgl
|From: Hans van der Merwe |Sent: 26. februar 2007 09:03 |Yes, but does Xgl allow other GL apps (who needs direct rendering, ie |GoogleEarth) to run smoothly? In GoogleEarth most menus are black until I move the mouse over. But everything works smoothly. It is not much of a problem. Xgl only do the window and window framebuffer stuff. all direct rendering is passed directly to the OpenGL driver(aka the Nvidia,Ati,Mesa etc driver). Fullscreen openGL apps like Doom3 are not affected. -- MortenB -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Pre-Installed Linux On Dells Coming!!
On Sunday 25 February 2007, Fred A. Miller wrote: When Michael Dell took back the reins of he company he founded, one of the first things he did was to launch the feedback site Dell Idea Storm. Following up on the recent Slashdot discussion of the early results of this experiment — an overwhelming expressed desire for pre-loaded Linux — Dell reports on what it plans to do with this feedback. Quoting: [W]e are working with Novell to certify our corporate client products for Linux, including our OptiPlex desktops, Latitude notebooks and Dell Precision workstations. [On the question of which distro to choose:] [T]here is no single customer preference for a distribution of Linux... We want users to have the opportunity to help define the market for Linux on desktop and notebook systems. In addition to working with Novell, we are also working with other distributors and evaluating the possibility of additional certifications across our product line. http://www.dell.com/content/topics/global.aspx/ideastorm/ideasinaction?c=us l=ens=gen If novell walks in Dell's door with a pre-configured SLED that should be a sweetheart deal. Even if they only made 5 bucks on the deal it would be quite a pot of money. Of course if they show up with a Gnome desktop it will turn so many users off linux that it may never get another chance at a vendor install. Somebody has to solve the Multimedia and Video driver problem because joe sixpack is not going to fight that battle. -- _ John Andersen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [opensuse] Beryl and xgl
On Mon, 2007-02-26 at 09:35 +0100, Morten Bjørnsvik wrote: |From: Hans van der Merwe |Sent: 26. februar 2007 09:03 |Yes, but does Xgl allow other GL apps (who needs direct rendering, ie |GoogleEarth) to run smoothly? In GoogleEarth most menus are black until I move the mouse over. But everything works smoothly. It is not much of a problem. Xgl only do the window and window framebuffer stuff. all direct rendering is passed directly to the OpenGL driver(aka the Nvidia,Ati,Mesa etc driver). Fullscreen openGL apps like Doom3 are not affected. Ok, but now Im confused - as in my first post: When Xgl is disabled - everything works fine. Xgl enabled all my GL apps and Kwin crawl (beryl and compiz run fine). How can this be if Xgl just passes through the direct rendering? Intel driver or Xgl issue? (as said AIGLX works fine) E-Mail disclaimer: http://www.sunspace.co.za/emaildisclaimer.htm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] multiple proxies in kde
I have 2 proxies in my network and would like to let smome applications use one and some the other, particularly with amarok. is there a general way to do that? Amarok had no special configuration option. Alternatively, setting no proxy at all for amarok would also be ok. Kostas -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Kerberos auth in 10.2
Im in a AD world and need Kerberos for user auth to my laptop etc. In 10.0 and 10.1 this worked great. After upgrading to 10.2 I cant login it I enable Kerberos auth in Yast. Not even with root priv. It tries to auth root against the AD and fails. So somewhere between the 10.1 and 10.2 upgrade (as in NOT format and reinstall) something broke in user auth. Any way I can reset all the auth config files to default. (someone email them to me directly) E-Mail disclaimer: http://www.sunspace.co.za/emaildisclaimer.htm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Re: Create files owned by non-default group
Sylvester Lykkehus wrote: Anders Johansson wrote: On Saturday 24 February 2007 16:12, Sylvester Lykkehus wrote: Is it possible to define, that when I create files in a specific directory, the files will not be (ch)owned to the default group, but instead as another group which I am a member of? Make the directory sgid, with chmod g+s dirname Great, this was what I was looking for. Be careful with one thing: If you move a file into that directory, it keeps its group and does not change it during the move. If you copy it, the directory's group is taken, though. (That's because a move (in a filesystem) does not create a new file, but only a new directory entry; whereas a copy really creates a new file.) Joachim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Joachim Schrod Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Roedermark, Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Re: SMART and SUSE Config
Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:
Kai Ponte wrote:
Someone asked a few days ago if SMART ran SUSEConfig.
It doesn't.
I didn't know or care at
the time. It apparently does, because I was doing a bunch of updates on one
of my desktops and saw the following in the logs...
Starting SuSEconfig, the SuSE Configuration Tool...
Running module fonts only
Reading /etc/sysconfig and updating the system...
Executing /sbin/conf.d/SuSEconfig.fonts...
Creating fonts.{scale,dir} files ..
/etc/fonts/suse-font-dirs.conf unchanged
/etc/fonts/suse-hinting.conf unchanged
/etc/fonts/suse-bitmaps.conf unchanged
Creating cache files for fontconfig
...
generating java font setup
Finished.
Starting SuSEconfig, the SuSE Configuration Tool...
Running module pango only
Reading /etc/sysconfig and updating the system...
Executing /sbin/conf.d/SuSEconfig.pango...
Finished
That is post install script from an rpm installed by smart. It isn't
the same as the whole SuSEconfig run by YOU, though most rpms for suse
run ldconfig now as a post install script (one other thing YOU runs
before SuSEconfig). HTH
I was the person who asked this. And if SUSE's rpms start to run the
relevant SuSEconfig modules, that should be sufficient and is
actually a good design decision, IMHO; I see no need to run the
whole she-bang.
Joachim
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Re: [opensuse] AD and OpenSuSE10.2 (Identity Manager for Unix)
Torsdag 15 februar 2007 14:32 skrev Verner Kjærsgaard: [... lots of cut away... see thread...] Hi list and Moby, - I promissed to let the list and Moby know when/if I got this working. I did :-) I don't use any Kerberos stuff at all. I setup the Win2003 DNS server to know of itself and the other boxes (including the Linux ones) in the network. I define the Linux boxes as normal, not pre-win2000 boxes in AD. I tell AD about the (Linux) box in the network as said. I tell AD about my (Linux) users, I do not specify anything special at all. Linux: I use SuSE10.2 with winbind installed. I tell the Linux box to use the DNS of the windows machine as its first DNS choice. I check that I can ping the windows machine using its name - which is NOT in /etc/hosts. I.e., it's looked up in the win-DNS. I use YaST/User Management/advanced. I elect to use SMB verification, and I make the Linux box a member of the domain. Meaning in YaST network section, I beforehand named the Linux box and declared it to belong to the correct domain and all. Once the machine is a legal member of the AD-domain and is set to use SMB-authentication for its users, I reboot. Just this once. Then when the blue login screen appears, a choice as to domain is given: local or WIN2003. I select the latter. I now use a loginname that exists in the AD, but DOES NOT EXIST IN THE LINUX BOX. This causes a /home/WIN2003/users-home-dir to be created. All is good and normal. Summa: The linux box is now dependent on users to exist in the central AD. As wanted. To the list and Moby; - thank you for your help in this matter! -- - Med venlig hilsen/Best regards Verner Kjærsgaard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Rosegarden for SuSE 10.2
Rajko M. wrote: I think it was packman repository that I used to download Rosegarden. See http://en.opensuse.org/Portal/OpenSUSE_Installation Thanks for the link. Though I may have eventually found it on my own, your post made the process much easier for me. I think at this point I am starting to better understand the SuSE software management. Patrick Shanahan wrote: 19:54 wahoo:~ smart query --show-channels rosegarden4 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [packman] Thanks for your answer. If I understand correctly, I would have to have SMART installed to be able to do this. Because I am still struggling to understand just the basic default software management of SuSE 10.2 and because I have seen posts indicating there are problems with SMART, I am not at this point willing to install/use SMART. Perhaps that will come later. In the process of hunting for Rosegarden, I have stumbled on something called JackLab Audio Distribution at http://jacklab.org/. Since my main purpose for this PC is music, this seems to be a perfect customized SuSE 10.2. Damon Register -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] PC won't boot from SuSE 10.2 DVD
I have an IBM NetVista PC with a 866 MHz Pentium 3. I just upgraded to a new Samsumg DVD writer drive. The bios is configured to have the DVD drive before the hard drive in the boot order. The PC is able to boot with CD1 of the OpenSuSE 10.2 CD set but it does not boot from the OpenSuSE 10.2 DVD. If SuSE is installed from CD and the PC is running, it is able to read from that 10.2 DVD. The PC bios is updated with the latest available from IBM. I have attempted to search this list and OpenSuSE for answers to this problem. I have found a few related threads about DVD booting issues but so far have not been able to get any answers that really explain the issue and the solution. Can anyone please explain just how is a DVD boot image different from a CD one that makes older PCs not boot from them? The reason I am trying to install from a DVD instead of just using the CDs is because I want to install JAD from http://jacklab.org/ with is currently only available as a DVD iso. I tried using mkbootdisk but the resulting floppy didn't boot correctly so that was a dead end. I tried putting the DVD on another PC and using install from ftp but I think I didn't have the host setup correctly so that didn't get far either. What I ended up doing is booting from the regular SuSE CD1 then after it was booted, I replaced the CD with the JAD DVD and proceeded with the install. It appears to have worked and as far as I can tell the system is operating ok. Is this method of booting from CD and swapping to DVD a valid approach? Would there be issues with the boot CD being plain SuSE 10.2 and the DVD being the JAD customized 10.2? Damon Register -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Railworld does not run
Kai Ponte wrote: On Sunday 25 February 2007 11:02:50 am James Knott wrote: J. Scott Thayer M.D. wrote: I am running Suse 10.2 x64 on an AMD 64 Turion (Acer Ferrari). Java is Java 1_5_0sun according to the Yast Software Manager module. How do you start that game? I've downloaded the jar file and even tried extracting the contents, but I can't find any way to actually run the game. Geeko Games RailWorld? I'm wondering if it is a 64-bit thingy. I am now able to start, using the java command, however it's now looking for some map files. I couldn't get the rpm version to run as it requires liquidlnf to be installed. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: MTBF was: Re: About Backing Up
David Brodbeck wrote: John Andersen wrote: Bad analogy. You don't get a new life from an insurance policy. You do get a new drive from a warranty. Actually, you don't get a new drive. You get someone else's broken drive that's been factory refurbished. At least from every manufacturer I've ever dealt with. So, the insurance companies should give you a refurbished life back? ;-) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] PC won't boot from SuSE 10.2 DVD
Damon Register wrote: with is currently only available as a DVD iso. if the dvd is readable from opernSUSE, you can as well add it as source, replacing the cd's but I would like to understand why some dvd's can't boot :-( - did you check the medium with the installed yast? jdd -- http://www.dodin.net Le manuel d'optique de Lucien Dodin http://lesprismes.free.fr/optique/index.html -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Microsoft ordered to pay Alcatel-Lucent $1.5 bln in patent case - MarketWatch
On Monday 26 February 2007 02:09, Bryan S. Tyson wrote: On Monday 26 February 2007 2:05 am, Mathias Homann wrote: I don't think that People should ... is within the scope of this list. Put your preaching on slashdot. you might even get an article there. Touched a nerve, did we? All I did was reply to someone who wrote MS should... and agree with that statement and expand it to people in general. By the way, PEOPLE SHOULD STOP USING MP3! Agreed kubuntu is also not withinhe scope of this list. Since when are people's sigs expected to be in the scope of the list? Since it bothers the delicate sensibilities of the elitists of this list. -- Powered by SuSE and the electric company and coal...uh-oh, not within the scope again! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] broken HD, data recovery possible?
* Daniel Feiglin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-26-07 01:34]: I don't use ReiserFS, but I have a copy of Paragon's Partition Manager on one of my Win clients which does see ReiserFS partitions. A quick check of the User manual reveals that this program formats, copies, resizes and moves ReiserFS partitions. You can downloadl a trial version from http://www.paragon-software.com/demo.htm. The commercial version costs $50 and supports a bootable CD or floppy with the program. If your data is worth $50 it might be a solution. (It's also a good utility to have around ...) The GNome Partition Editor probably does as much for a better price: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php -- Patrick ShanahanRegistered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org@ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 OpenSUSE Linux http://en.opensuse.org/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Sony Vaio speed issue - battery normal, AC slow !!!
Roger.Munoz wrote: I have a Sony Vaio VGN-FS415B laptop running opensuse 10.2. The problem I have is that when the system is running on AC adapter, the system takes about two minutes to boot up and video playback is very jerky despite kpowersave reporting the cpu speed at 1.73 GHz!. This problem is not apparent when running on just the battery, the system boots up in less than a minute and kpowersave reports the cpu speed at 800 MHz. I only have a few ideas you could try. Check the power management schemes in Yast, System, etc/sysConfig editor, System, Power management. There is one scheme for battery and one for on ac. Maybe try comparing the differences between them and try to change some of the things that are different til you find the culprit. Then, look deeper into that area to get a handle on how to make it do what you expect, or perhaps file a bug report. -- Joe Morris Registered Linux user 231871 running openSUSE 10.2 x86_64 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Sony Vaio speed issue - battery normal, AC slow !!!
On 02/26/2007 07:56 AM somebody named Roger.Munoz wrote: Hi all I have a Sony Vaio VGN-FS415B laptop running opensuse 10.2. The problem I have is that when the system is running on AC adapter, the system takes about two minutes to boot up and video playback is very jerky despite kpowersave reporting the cpu speed at 1.73 GHz!. This problem is not apparent when running on just the battery, the system boots up in less than a minute and kpowersave reports the cpu speed at 800 MHz. Has any one encountered the same problem and if so how do you go about solving this one? Roger I have almost the same problem on my Dell. When I switch from mains to battery, there's a CPU spike which lasts for several minutes. I believe it's due to hald, its being confused, perhaps in some loop which takes a lot of processing to resolve. The video is jerky probably because it's not getting enough CPU. Try running top in a terminal before changing the power source and see what's running. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 10.2 package management
Kai Ponte [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Friday 23 February 2007 08:15:56 pm M Harris wrote: On Friday 23 February 2007 12:12, Ross Davis wrote: I am trying to decide if I am ready to make the jump from SuSE 9.3 Pro to OpenSuSE 10.2. You know what? If it aint broke leave it alone. In other words, if your system is running, does what you want, isn't having any trouble, and you already like it a lot... well, leave it alone... no need to go to 10.2 in fact,... I'd stay at 9.3 if I were you... ...but the security updates may not be around long. Though I think 9.3 was my favorite version (from 9.1 to 10.1) I am on 10.1 simply because I want the updates. Oh, and on 10.2, I noticed a fairly damming article today: http://www.softwareinreview.com/cms/content/view/66/ It said... So Novell fixed the damage done by 10.1., but still has not addressed many of the lingering problems with installation and configuration that have plagued SUSE variants for the operating system's entire history. It's still a decent And does not give any details about this. I consider that article a rant and not a review ;-( Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpjmqUeQssdx.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse] Wireless setup [OT]
Koenraad Lelong schreef: Russell Jones schreef: You could look at kismet http://www.kismetwireless.net/ , wellenreiter http://sourceforge.net/projects/wellenreiter/ and if you're feeling flush, wi-spy http://www.metageek.net/ ... Thanks for all suggestions. Since I think I could use that wi-spy on other occasions I'm going to buy that. I'll report back (if you don't mind). Hi all, This is my first report ;-). I found that in my house I have three peaks that are more or less blocking all channels except for channel 1 and maybe 13 (for 802.11g anyway). Anyone interested in a picture can have one ;-). I don't know where those peaks come from, maybe the detectors of the alarm system. I set my AP to channel 1, and WinXP seems not to have a problem connecting. Suse10.1 on the same laptop (dual boot) can't connect : it times out after 60 seconds, as seen in Networkmanagers' logfile. Is there an easy way to lengthen that time-out, to try ? -- Met vriendelijke groeten, Koenraad Lelong RD Manager ACE electronics n.v. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] NTFS-3G driver and boot time project
Hello. I´ve got two question. My first question is about the ntfs-3g driver. Now, when is in a stable version will be the ntfs-3g driver available in openSUSE 10.3 default?Will it be possible to write to NTFS partition? And my second question is about boot time project(http://en.opensuse.org/Boot_time). The plan is to boot in 5 seconds. This means, from the grub screen until gdm loads there should be no more than 5 seconds. How does it look like?It will be boot time in openSUSE 10.3 faster than openSUSE 10.2. Anybody knows? Thanks. Rasto -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [opensuse] Sony Vaio speed issue - battery normal, AC slow !!!
solving this one? Roger I have almost the same problem on my Dell. When I switch from mains to battery, there's a CPU spike which lasts for several minutes. I believe it's due to hald, its being confused, perhaps in some loop which takes a lot of processing to resolve. The video is jerky probably because it's not getting enough CPU. Try running top in a terminal before changing the power source and see what's running. Ken I've had a look at top and nothing jumps out to suggest anything is wrong. I think the problem lies with acpi because if I turn off acpi at boot, every thing is ok (apart from the fact the powersave functions are disabled). Any more ideas? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] PC won't boot from SuSE 10.2 DVD
On Monday 26 February 2007 06:05:06 am Damon Register wrote: I have an IBM NetVista PC with a 866 MHz Pentium 3. I just upgraded to a new Samsumg DVD writer drive. The bios is configured to have the DVD drive before the hard drive in the boot order. The PC is able to boot with CD1 of the OpenSuSE 10.2 CD set but it does not boot from the OpenSuSE 10.2 DVD. If SuSE is installed from CD and the PC is running, it is able to read from that 10.2 DVD. The PC bios is updated with the latest available from IBM. Damon Register Does any bootable DVD you are trying to boot on this PC, boot on any other PC/DVD combination? If yes, then it is probably the DVD drive. Find the latest firmware for the DVD drive and update it. It is not the PC's BIOS since it will boot from CD and bootable CD/DVDs share pretty much identical boot code (usually an image of a bootable 3.5 1.44/2.88MB floppy). Booting to a CD and then swapping in a DVD is a valid way to get a system installed. Stan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] KNetworkManager: Such a tramp!
On Sat, 2007-02-24 at 12:55 -0900, John Andersen wrote: My KNetworkManager seems to find networks (especially un-secured ones) in the neighborhood and connect to these at random each time I power up. Is there a way to get it to stay home, and always connect to my router (which does use security) in preference to what ever it finds? Well, it's just tramping because it was you taught him to do so. Why? Because you at least once tried to connect to one of your neighbors' networks. If such a connection attempt was successful the network is now respected as a trusted network it should try to connect to. At least if it is around. More information: http://en.opensuse.org/Projects/KNetworkManager Now, to solve your issue simply use the context menu, choose Options - Show Networks and delete the corresponding network from the list. And whats up with that Signal Strength output when you hover over the icon in the tray? What scale is that based on, and why isn't the signal to noise ratio printed. It tends to always just say 100. 100 What? It should read x% . Please file a bug for that on http://bugzilla.novell.com. Thanks, Timo -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] broken HD, data recovery possible?
On Sunday 25 February 2007 18:03, Daniel Bauer wrote: Is there a Linux tool to make a bootable CD, that will then search the disk and give possibility to save found files to a floppy? I have found Insert to be very useful: http://www.inside-security.de/insert_en.html In your case, gpart and foremost might be useful (both of which are included on the Insert disk). foremost is quite good at recovering files but it doesn't recover the file names so you'll have to wade through a load of files to find what you want. I guess it all depends on how valuable the files are and how much work you're prepared to put in to retrieve them but provided the disk is not physically damaged, you should be able to get something back. Also, I would definitely agree with an earlier post which recommended making an image of the disk. Good luck, James. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Opensuse Mirror
I am currently on a team which operates a large linux ftp mirror. We currently mirror the opensuse.org ftp site. We are interested in mirroring software.opensuse.org, guru and packman repositories. If someone would like to contact me off list I will respond with my work email and maybe we could work something out. We have ample disk space and bandwidth. I apologize if this is in the wrong list. If it is could you please forward it or let me know which list to use. Thanks. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Sony Vaio speed issue - battery normal, AC slow !!!
On 02/26/2007 09:22 AM somebody named Roger.Munoz wrote: solving this one? Roger I have almost the same problem on my Dell. When I switch from mains to battery, there's a CPU spike which lasts for several minutes. I believe it's due to hald, its being confused, perhaps in some loop which takes a lot of processing to resolve. The video is jerky probably because it's not getting enough CPU. Try running top in a terminal before changing the power source and see what's running. Ken I've had a look at top and nothing jumps out to suggest anything is wrong. I think the problem lies with acpi because if I turn off acpi at boot, every thing is ok (apart from the fact the powersave functions are disabled). Any more ideas? First, you should reply to the list, not to me personally. Yeah, I know the way the list is set up is screwy, but that's just one of those annoyances we have to deal with. Secondly, you should leave the original statement of the problem in replies. Otherwise, you're expecting me and everyone else to remember your particular problem over whatever time span-- hours, days, weeks-- it takes to solve it... which isn't likely to happen. In general, there's two ways to resolve an issue: try to isolate it to the point where the fix is verifiable or thrown possible solutions at it until one sticks. The more of the first you do, the less/better of the latter you'll be doing. So turning off acpi is good. I'd suggest turning it back on and shutting down powersaved just to see if you get the same results. If so, read man powersave/d and try performing some commands manually. Also have a look at /var/log/messages; you might find some error messages for powersaved there. For example, I occasionally get WARNING in Function handleHWEventRequest; line 108: Could not read from hwEvent fd: 4, error: Connection reset by peer What version of powersaved are you running? hth, ken -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] S3 Savage and (XGL or AIGLX)
Hi all Is there anybody who get an S3 Savage card work with XGL or AIGLX? Days of google search but nothing... Regards Robermann -- Change your perspective... play the source code: www.codesounding.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] su required to run, but permission denied?
Jon Nelson wrote: One. Never use just 'su'. *always* use 'su -' to reset your environment. It's not so mandatory. It depends on what you really need to do. Regards, Jan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Google Earth OT
David Brodbeck wrote: A. den Oudsten wrote: nv (no 3D-support) So I suppose that my card indeed is too old for 3D No, you're using the open-source nv driver, which has no 3D acceleration whatsoever. You need to use the binary drivers from NVIDIA's site to get acceleration. I followed the instructions from Nvidia and Suse and installed the drivers. I have now 3D support at about 2000 frames in 5.0 seconds Thanks for the suggestions!! André den Oudsten -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: CPU reviews or comparisons for the average Linux user?
On Monday 26 February 2007 01:37, John Andersen wrote: On Monday 26 February 2007, Martin Mielke wrote: Hi all, you might find this chart interesting: http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/11/21/the_mother_of_all_cpu_charts _2005/pa ge39.html Nope. Too old. I don't think any of those chips are still in production. This appears more current: http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu.html. Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Microsoft ordered to pay Alcatel-Lucent $1.5 bln in patent case - MarketWatch
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Monday 2007-02-26 at 01:43 -0500, Bryan S. Tyson wrote: I still maintain that in casual conversation or email, when 99% of people say ogg, they are not really talking about ogg the container but ogg/vorbis, the free and open audio format. We do so because we are not aware that ogg is not the audio format used. Have you noticed that the encoder in vorbis tools is called oggenc, not vorbisenc? So what does the user say, I made vorbises of the tracks on this CD? I've never heard anyone say that. I have heard plenty of people say I made oggs of the tracks on this CD. Same as above. And: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ whatis oggenc oggenc (1) - encode audio into the Ogg Vorbis format - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFF4wQStTMYHG2NR9URAs5VAJ4phSdZQZjxjNUt2Xcb6xF5jej52QCfRQa/ oNRQYzOE3nNm/rb1QR5zLtU= =T57l -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Beryl
I just finished an evaluation of Beryl, Emerald and XGL on my Suse 10.2 system and I have to say that Vista has nothing special in comparison. What a desktop enhancement! Now, having said that, I have to report that I removed it all from the computer because of the extra overhead that it requires and because I personally do not need or want many of the bells and whistles that are provided. So, to summarize, it is really nice eye candy but it made my system slow down because I don't have gobs of memory. Fred -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] broken HD, data recovery possible?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Sunday 2007-02-25 at 19:03 +0100, Daniel Bauer wrote: The HD (with Suse 10.0, ReiserFS) of my moms old laptop is broken and I thought, maybe there's a possibility to revover her e-mails and some OOo textfiles, but google wouldn't help me (I probably search wrong - find only commercial ads...). Trying to mount /dev/hda1 or /dev/hda2 with the rescue system fails (it says: partition doesn't exist) The openSuse install CD says, parted cannot format the disk. reiserfsck says the SuperBlock cannot be read - and I cannot rebuild the Superblock with reiserfsck because I don't know what answers I should type to the questions it asks The only thing I know is that it's a 20 G disk with a swap, a root and a home partition (with reiserfs). But I don't even know the sizes of the partitions or the version of reiserfs... Is there a Linux tool to make a bootable CD, that will then search the disk and give possibility to save found files to a floppy? I would prefer to take the disk out and work in my own computer, with that disk as extra, then do an image of the whole thing, and work on it. Mind: use a new cable, 80 pin ide cable is fragile. First step is recognizing the partitions. Use fdisk -l /dev/whateverdisk to print the partition table. If it comes out empty, use gpart to guess them, and follow it's advice to recover them. The next step would be to fsck the partitions, but first, I would dd each one and work on the copy, not the original. But I'll leave that step for another post. I went this road recently, I almost lost 140GB. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFF4wZ4tTMYHG2NR9URAnT4AJwPSgDOV0hQOwoFRX6EON4YQk80hgCffyXg M2p0jkBWB5VCfUwCdPZ7Uco= =Ff9K -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [opensuse] Sony Vaio speed issue - battery normal, AC slow !!!
On 02/26/2007 09:22 AM somebody named Roger.Munoz wrote: solving this one? Roger I have almost the same problem on my Dell. When I switch from mains to battery, there's a CPU spike which lasts for several minutes. I believe it's due to hald, its being confused, perhaps in some loop which takes a lot of processing to resolve. The video is jerky probably because it's not getting enough CPU. Try running top in a terminal before changing the power source and see what's running. Ken I've had a look at top and nothing jumps out to suggest anything is wrong. I think the problem lies with acpi because if I turn off acpi at boot, every thing is ok (apart from the fact the powersave functions are disabled). Any more ideas? So turning off acpi is good. I'd suggest turning it back on and shutting down powersaved just to see if you get the same results. If so, read man powersave/d and try performing some commands manually. Also have a look at /var/log/messages; you might find some error messages for powersaved there. For example, I occasionally get WARNING in Function handleHWEventRequest; line 108: Could not read from hwEvent fd: 4, error: Connection reset by peer What version of powersaved are you running? Sorry about that but I don't send many an email to opensuse, in fact this is the first time in about 2 years! I am running powersave-0.15.11-0.2 I've disabled powersave but I still encounter the same problem, so it seems acpi is definitely the culprit IMO. Here is output from /var/log/acpid Feb 26 16:18:53 wolverine [acpid]: received event battery BAT0 0080 0001 Feb 26 16:18:53 wolverine [acpid]: notifying client 3278[101:102] Feb 26 16:18:53 wolverine [acpid]: notifying client 3638[0:0] Feb 26 16:18:53 wolverine [acpid]: completed event battery BAT0 0080 0001 Feb 26 16:18:53 wolverine [acpid]: received event processor CPU0 0080 Feb 26 16:18:53 wolverine [acpid]: notifying client 3278[101:102] Feb 26 16:18:53 wolverine [acpid]: notifying client 3638[0:0] Feb 26 16:18:53 wolverine [acpid]: completed event processor CPU0 0080 Feb 26 16:18:53 wolverine [acpid]: received event processor CPU0 0081 Feb 26 16:18:53 wolverine [acpid]: notifying client 3278[101:102] Feb 26 16:18:53 wolverine [acpid]: notifying client 3638[0:0] Feb 26 16:18:53 wolverine [acpid]: completed event processor CPU0 0081 Feb 26 16:18:56 wolverine [acpid]: received event battery BAT0 0080 0001 Feb 26 16:18:56 wolverine [acpid]: notifying client 3278[101:102] Feb 26 16:18:56 wolverine [acpid]: notifying client 3638[0:0] Feb 26 16:18:56 wolverine [acpid]: completed event battery BAT0 0080 0001 Feb 26 16:18:56 wolverine [acpid]: received event processor CPU0 0080 Feb 26 16:18:56 wolverine [acpid]: notifying client 3278[101:102] Feb 26 16:18:56 wolverine [acpid]: notifying client 3638[0:0] Feb 26 16:18:56 wolverine [acpid]: completed event processor CPU0 0080 Feb 26 16:18:57 wolverine [acpid]: received event processor CPU0 0081 Feb 26 16:18:57 wolverine [acpid]: notifying client 3278[101:102] Feb 26 16:18:57 wolverine [acpid]: notifying client 3638[0:0] Feb 26 16:18:57 wolverine [acpid]: completed event processor CPU0 0081 There are no errors in the messages file BTW. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] broken HD, data recovery possible?
Daniel: Use ddrescue #dd_rescue /dev/broken /dev/sda There is an rpm for suse. Ciao -=terry(Denver)=- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Beryl
I just finished an evaluation of Beryl, Emerald and XGL on my Suse 10.2 system and I have to say that Vista has nothing special in comparison. What a desktop enhancement! Now, having said that, I have to report that I removed it all from the computer because of the extra overhead that it requires and because I personally do not need or want many of the bells and whistles that are provided. So, to summarize, it is really nice eye candy but it made my system slow down because I don't have gobs of memory. Agreed,I had used it and deleted it. It's not meant to be much more than eye candy but still, it's cool. Vista's Aero can barely compete with that. Vista's Aero is eye candy as well but not meant to help much. LOL. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Bluetooth Mobile Phone Connectivity
Hi, Anyone have been able to use mobile phone with bluetooth (i.e. Nokia 6310) on SuSE 10.2? Its seems like bluetooth services are running, but there is nowhere to connect to mobile phone. The questions are: 1) How to pair KDE bluetooth services with mobile phone? I have several dialogs in KBluetooth D, one of them seem to scrambled because of software bug, and I was not able to find something like Discover Connect. 2) Is there any program to send/manage SMS/MMS and address book that really works? Thanks in advance for any suggestion(s). -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Sony Vaio speed issue - battery normal, AC slow !!!
On 02/26/2007 11:40 AM somebody named Roger.Munoz wrote: On 02/26/2007 09:22 AM somebody named Roger.Munoz wrote: solving this one? Roger I have almost the same problem on my Dell. When I switch from mains to battery, there's a CPU spike which lasts for several minutes. I believe it's due to hald, its being confused, perhaps in some loop which takes a lot of processing to resolve. The video is jerky probably because it's not getting enough CPU. Try running top in a terminal before changing the power source and see what's running. Ken I've had a look at top and nothing jumps out to suggest anything is wrong. I think the problem lies with acpi because if I turn off acpi at boot, every thing is ok (apart from the fact the powersave functions are disabled). Any more ideas? So turning off acpi is good. I'd suggest turning it back on and shutting down powersaved just to see if you get the same results. If so, read man powersave/d and try performing some commands manually. Also have a look at /var/log/messages; you might find some error messages for powersaved there. For example, I occasionally get WARNING in Function handleHWEventRequest; line 108: Could not read from hwEvent fd: 4, error: Connection reset by peer What version of powersaved are you running? Sorry about that but I don't send many an email to opensuse, in fact this is the first time in about 2 years! I am running powersave-0.15.11-0.2 I've disabled powersave but I still encounter the same problem, so it seems acpi is definitely the culprit IMO. Here is output from /var/log/acpid Feb 26 16:18:53 wolverine [acpid]: received event battery BAT0 0080 0001 Feb 26 16:18:53 wolverine [acpid]: notifying client 3278[101:102] Feb 26 16:18:53 wolverine [acpid]: notifying client 3638[0:0] Feb 26 16:18:53 wolverine [acpid]: completed event battery BAT0 0080 0001 Feb 26 16:18:53 wolverine [acpid]: received event processor CPU0 0080 Feb 26 16:18:53 wolverine [acpid]: notifying client 3278[101:102] Feb 26 16:18:53 wolverine [acpid]: notifying client 3638[0:0] Feb 26 16:18:53 wolverine [acpid]: completed event processor CPU0 0080 Feb 26 16:18:53 wolverine [acpid]: received event processor CPU0 0081 Feb 26 16:18:53 wolverine [acpid]: notifying client 3278[101:102] Feb 26 16:18:53 wolverine [acpid]: notifying client 3638[0:0] Feb 26 16:18:53 wolverine [acpid]: completed event processor CPU0 0081 Feb 26 16:18:56 wolverine [acpid]: received event battery BAT0 0080 0001 Feb 26 16:18:56 wolverine [acpid]: notifying client 3278[101:102] Feb 26 16:18:56 wolverine [acpid]: notifying client 3638[0:0] Feb 26 16:18:56 wolverine [acpid]: completed event battery BAT0 0080 0001 Feb 26 16:18:56 wolverine [acpid]: received event processor CPU0 0080 Feb 26 16:18:56 wolverine [acpid]: notifying client 3278[101:102] Feb 26 16:18:56 wolverine [acpid]: notifying client 3638[0:0] Feb 26 16:18:56 wolverine [acpid]: completed event processor CPU0 0080 Feb 26 16:18:57 wolverine [acpid]: received event processor CPU0 0081 Feb 26 16:18:57 wolverine [acpid]: notifying client 3278[101:102] Feb 26 16:18:57 wolverine [acpid]: notifying client 3638[0:0] Feb 26 16:18:57 wolverine [acpid]: completed event processor CPU0 0081 There are no errors in the messages file BTW. It seems, then, that you and I are looking at different problems, so I guess we can't work on it together. As an afterthought, you might try disabling acpi's reporting on battery and other status reports (one at a time) to see if one of them is hanging your bootup. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Konqueror can't open USB floppy.
My USB floppy won't open in Konqueror. Konqueror gives me this error message: 'Method Mount with signature ssas on interface org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume doesn't exist.' Any suggestions? This used to work, and I can access the drive fine with mtools. My USB thumbdrive still works, too. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Microsoft ordered to pay Alcatel-Lucent $1.5 bln in patent case - MarketWatch
JB wrote: By the way, PEOPLE SHOULD STOP USING MP3! Agreed I thought about it a couple of times, but most of my music listening is on portable devices or my car stereo. Hardware ogg/Vorbis players are very thin on the ground. I'm not sure why, but I heard somewhere it's because Vorbis requires floating-point math and MP3 doesn't. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Railworld does not run
On Monday 26 February 2007 13:08, James Knott wrote: Kai Ponte wrote: On Sunday 25 February 2007 11:02:50 am James Knott wrote: J. Scott Thayer M.D. wrote: I am running Suse 10.2 x64 on an AMD 64 Turion (Acer Ferrari). Java is Java 1_5_0sun according to the Yast Software Manager module. How do you start that game? I've downloaded the jar file and even tried extracting the contents, but I can't find any way to actually run the game. Geeko Games RailWorld? I'm wondering if it is a 64-bit thingy. I am now able to start, using the java command, however it's now looking for some map files. I couldn't get the rpm version to run as it requires liquidlnf to be installed. Which is also available from packman (I wonder why they removed the 'zusätzlich benötige Pakete' section) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Bluetooth Mobile Phone Connectivity
On Monday 26 February 2007, Andrei Verovski (aka MacGuru) wrote: Hi, Anyone have been able to use mobile phone with bluetooth (i.e. Nokia 6310) on SuSE 10.2? Its seems like bluetooth services are running, but there is nowhere to connect to mobile phone. The questions are: 1) How to pair KDE bluetooth services with mobile phone? I have several dialogs in KBluetooth D, one of them seem to scrambled because of software bug, and I was not able to find something like Discover Connect. I am able to use obex object push and I can send files in both directions between the computer and the Motorola K1. 2) Is there any program to send/manage SMS/MMS and address book that really works? Kmobiletools almost works. I've never actually got it to send an sms but I could fetch the address book and any existing sms messages from the the phone. It seems to have a problem actually saving the fetched address book into any file or address book on the compute. Linux seems to be in a State of Almost with regard to phones. -- _ John Andersen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Consistency with power privileges
On Monday 26 February 2007 01:11, John Andersen wrote: What security expert sits a child at the console and then in the same breath preaches security as a reason to inconvenience the vast majority of users? I'll give you another real world scenario (more relevant) that I experienced at a college campus library a year and a half ago. Several of us were in the library one Thursday evening doing some late research and finishing up on a couple of critical papers. I had requested several journal articles via inter library loan and my laptop was in the process of downloading the fifth of six large journal faxes. Two other machines were in the process of the same sort of activity and one or two more were idle. In strolls the campus clown... who thought it might be funny (as he sailed through the library) to reach out and close the lids of all the laptops he could reach as he progressed between the tables. Most of the machines lost their connection and suspended... a couple of them hibernated--- all of them except mine... which kept right on downloading the last of the journal articles I desperately needed. Of course the other guys were able to get their articles too... eventually... after their machines woke up, reestablished the connection to campus... and then *restarted* their downloads. It wasn't funny, and it was avoidable. The moral... my colleagues *convenienced* themselves into an arbitrary highly inconvenient and uncontrolled shutdown because they thought nobody would ever close the lid of their highly personal computer except themselves... ooops. And by the way... I can suspend my laptop when I want to in about, oh, five seconds by pressing an icon and entering a password... so what? The point is not to preach inconvenience, the point is to encourage new folks to the *nix OS to work within the security benefits of the system... instead of constantly trying to circumvent them... especially because working within the security constaints of the system is s easy... sudo, su -, etc. -- Kind regards, M Harris -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Beryl
Op maandag 26 februari 2007 18:17, schreef Jay Smith: Now, having said that, I have to report that I removed it all from the computer because of the extra overhead that it requires and because I personally do not need or want many of the bells and whistles that are provided. So, to summarize, it is really nice eye candy but it made my system slow down because I don't have gobs of memory. Agreed,I had used it and deleted it. It's not meant to be much more than eye candy but still, it's cool. Vista's Aero can barely compete with that. Vista's Aero is eye candy as well but not meant to help much. LOL. because of Beryl I had people start to have a look at linux. A nice distro for this to come with beryl out of the box, is knoppix ;) -- Richard Bos Without a home the journey is endless -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] multiple proxies in kde
Op maandag 26 februari 2007 10:23, schreef Kostas Georgokitsos: I have 2 proxies in my network and would like to let smome applications use one and some the other, particularly with amarok. is there a general way to do that? Amarok had no special configuration option. Alternatively, setting no proxy at all for amarok would also be ok. just from the command: # no_proxy=system.domain.tld amarok or # ht/ftp_proxy=http:.: amarok -- Richard Bos We are borrowing the world of our children, It is not inherited from our parents. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] selecting different video card in Yast - Suse 10.0
Hello, The MB has on onboard VIA video card that freezes the computer after Yast, Sax2, or X tries to access it. I noticed that in 9.3 you can select a different video card in Yast (or Sax), but not in 10.0. In 9.3 I can atleast select VESA frambuffor mode to get X running, but no such option in 10.0. Any ideas? James D. Parra Systems Administrator, IT Dept. Music Reports Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] T: 818-558-1400 x7023 F: 818-558-3484 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Linux on Dell preloads
Well, its about time. It doesn't look like Dell will be totally patronizing one distro, but one article said Dell was working with Novell. The is a fantastic action... because it was the result of Dell taking a hard look at its user suggestion box... we want Linux, and we want Openoffice. http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/feb2007/tc20070226_415604.htm?chan=technology_technology+index+page_today's+top+stories http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070226-8923.html http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,129363-c,linux/article.html -- Kind regards, M Harris -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Linux on Dell preloads
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 M Harris wrote: Well, its about time. It doesn't look like Dell will be totally patronizing one distro, but one article said Dell was working with Novell. The is a fantastic action... because it was the result of Dell taking a hard look at its user suggestion box... we want Linux, and we want Openoffice. WTF cares about what distro? We just need mashines especially laptops checked against linux. What distro it'll be ain't my problem but Novell's. ;) For myself, of course, I'll install the distro I like. thx Jan - -- /NoCTRL (GNU/)Linux registered user # 437835 (goto: http://counter.li.org/) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF40YfN8oPNJi4M6IRAqRAAJ40qqs/wSt/paqBbUPIG+flMvVoFgCeOwny Kubj3Z9J9uQ0BAtW1VJzmuo= =bCwH -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Konqueror can't open USB floppy.
David Brodbeck wrote: My USB floppy won't open in Konqueror. Konqueror gives me this error message: 'Method Mount with signature ssas on interface org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume doesn't exist.' Any suggestions? This used to work, and I can access the drive fine with mtools. My USB thumbdrive still works, too. Bug 244485 Also won't open Zip Drives. No solution as of yet. No obvious activity on bug lately either. I think Hal is broken and they don't know how to fix it.. maybe remove the memory cards. [ ala 2001 ] Open the floppy drive Hal. Hal, Open the floppy drive. -- (o:]*HUGGLES*[:o) Billie Walsh The three best words in the English Language: I LOVE YOU Pass them on! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Consistency with power privileges
M Harris wrote: On Monday 26 February 2007 01:11, John Andersen wrote: What security expert sits a child at the console and then in the same breath preaches security as a reason to inconvenience the vast majority of users? I'll give you another real world scenario (more relevant) that I experienced at a college campus library a year and a half ago. Several of us were in the library one Thursday evening doing some late research and finishing up on a couple of critical papers. I had requested several journal articles via inter library loan and my laptop was in the process of downloading the fifth of six large journal faxes. Two other machines were in the process of the same sort of activity and one or two more were idle. In strolls the campus clown... who thought it might be funny (as he sailed through the library) to reach out and close the lids of all the laptops he could reach as he progressed between the tables. Most of the machines lost their connection and suspended... a couple of them hibernated--- all of them except mine... which kept right on downloading the last of the journal articles I desperately needed. Of course the other guys were able to get their articles too... eventually... after their machines woke up, reestablished the connection to campus... and then *restarted* their downloads. It wasn't funny, and it was avoidable. The moral... my colleagues *convenienced* themselves into an arbitrary highly inconvenient and uncontrolled shutdown because they thought nobody would ever close the lid of their highly personal computer except themselves... ooops. And by the way... I can suspend my laptop when I want to in about, oh, five seconds by pressing an icon and entering a password... so what? The point is not to preach inconvenience, the point is to encourage new folks to the *nix OS to work within the security benefits of the system... instead of constantly trying to circumvent them... especially because working within the security constaints of the system is s easy... sudo, su -, etc. Why in the world would anyone set their, often times very expensive, laptop down on a table and leave it unattended? Under NO circumstances would I EVER leave my poor little Gateway sitting anywhere in a public place I, or my spouse, wasn't in the immediate vicinity. It's not the newest or most wizbang little computer but it is VERY important, and personal, to me. It would almost be like leaving your wallet just sitting on a table somewhere. I'm sorry, but I see the above scenario as an I D Ten T error. Everyone deserved exactly what they got. -- (o:]*HUGGLES*[:o) Billie Walsh The three best words in the English Language: I LOVE YOU Pass them on! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Trouble installing Nvidia Driver
Kernel: 2.6.18.2-34-default #1 SMP Video Card: evga GeForce 6200 A-LE When I try to install (using yast) the following nvidia-gfx-kmp-default - NVIDIA gfx driver kernel module x11-video-nvidia - nvidia GL drivers They get installed without any problems. I then go to hardware / Graphics Card and Monitor, the changes are there. When I say OK and I test the configuration, It tells me the test configuration failed. And tells me to look at the Xorg.99.log. Any Ideas what is going on, I have done this with older kernels and it worked fine. I even tried Mandrake 10.1 and it installed and loaded the Nvidia drivers just fine. I have no desire to use Mandrake and hope someone will be able to help. Mike Here is the Xorg.99.log: This is a pre-release version of the X server from The X.Org Foundation. It is not supported in any way. Bugs may be filed in the bugzilla at http://bugs.freedesktop.org/. Select the xorg product for bugs you find in this release. Before reporting bugs in pre-release versions please check the latest version in the X.Org Foundation git repository. See http://wiki.x.org/wiki/GitPage for git access instructions. X Window System Version 7.1.99.902 (7.2.0 RC 2) Release Date: 13 November 2006 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 7.1.99.902 Build Operating System: openSUSE SUSE LINUX Current Operating System: Linux gandalf 2.6.18.2-34-default #1 SMP Mon Nov 27 11:46:27 UTC 2006 x86_64 Build Date: 09 January 2007 Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. Module Loader present Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.99.log, Time: Mon Feb 26 13:34:42 2007 (++) Using config file: /var/lib/sax/xorg.conf (==) ServerLayout Layout[all] (**) |--Screen Screen[0] (0) (**) | |--Monitor Monitor[0] (**) | |--Device Device[0] (**) |--Input Device Keyboard[0] (**) |--Input Device Mouse[1] (WW) The directory /usr/share/fonts/local does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (WW) The directory /usr/share/fonts/PEX does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (WW) The directory /usr/share/fonts/latin2/misc does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (WW) The directory /usr/share/fonts/latin2/75dpi does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (WW) The directory /usr/share/fonts/latin2/100dpi does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (WW) The directory /usr/share/fonts/latin2/Type1 does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (WW) The directory /usr/share/fonts/latin7/75dpi does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (WW) The directory /usr/share/fonts/baekmuk does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (WW) The directory /usr/share/fonts/japanese does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (WW) The directory /usr/share/fonts/kwintv does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (WW) The directory /usr/share/fonts/CID does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (WW) The directory /usr/share/fonts/ucs/misc does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (WW) The directory /usr/share/fonts/ucs/75dpi does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (WW) The directory /usr/share/fonts/ucs/100dpi does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (WW) The directory /usr/share/fonts/hellas/misc does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (WW) The directory /usr/share/fonts/hellas/75dpi does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (WW) The directory /usr/share/fonts/hellas/100dpi does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (WW) The directory /usr/share/fonts/hellas/Type1 does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (WW) The directory /usr/share/fonts/misc/sgi does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (WW) The directory /usr/share/fonts/xtest does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (**) FontPath set to: /usr/share/fonts/misc:unscaled, /usr/share/fonts/75dpi:unscaled, /usr/share/fonts/100dpi:unscaled, /usr/share/fonts/Type1, /usr/share/fonts/URW, /usr/share/fonts/Speedo, /usr/share/fonts/cyrillic, /usr/share/fonts/truetype, /usr/share/fonts/uni:unscaled, /opt/kde3/share/fonts, unix/:7100 (==) RgbPath set to /usr/share/X11/rgb (**) Input device list set to /dev/gpmdata,/dev/input/mice (==) ModulePath set to /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/updates,/usr/lib64/xorg/modules (**) Option AllowMouseOpenFail on (**) Option Xinerama off (II) Open ACPI successful (/var/run/acpid.socket) (II) Loader magic: 0x79d7c0 (II) Module ABI versions: X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.3 X.Org Video Driver: 1.0 X.Org XInput driver : 0.6 X.Org Server Extension : 0.3 X.Org Font
Re: [opensuse] Pre-Installed Linux On Dells Coming!!
Fred A. Miller wrote: snip — Dell reports on what it plans to do with this feedback. Quoting: [W]e are working with Novell to certify our corporate client products for Linux, including our OptiPlex desktops, Latitude notebooks and Dell Precision workstations. snip http://www.dell.com/content/topics/global.aspx/ideastorm/ideasinaction?c=usl=ens=gen I was one that made such a request for linux laptops at the Dell site. So I said to myself, Let's see what it's gonna cost me. So I went to the linux laptops link http://www.dell.com/content/products/features.aspx/nseries_nb?c=uscs=04l=ens=bsd and priced out a D520N Duo linux-ready, not linux-installed, with various options: memory, drive, DVD, graphics card. Then I repeated this exercise by simply going to the Dell site and pretended to configure the same machine with Vista installed. http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/latit_d520?c=usl=ens=bsdcs=04 I tried very hard to select the same components: CPU, memory, graphics card, hard drive, DVD. It would cost me a hundred bucks less for the Vista box. I don't think Dell has quite got this worked out yet. -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd Rather Be Sailing -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Consistency with power privileges
On Monday 26 February 2007 15:36, Billie Erin Walsh wrote: Why in the world would anyone set their, often times very expensive, laptop down on a table and leave it unattended? (don't be a cluck) ... everyone was sitting right there... that's the whole point... the guy ran through the lib and slap slap slap slap slap and before anyone could react five or six laptops were closed... it sounds funny now that I say it... but for some of the guys it wasn't funny... and its a true story... You are correct about one thing... they got what they deserved. :) ... but they didn't deserve what they got. :( -- Kind regards, M Harris -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] broken HD, data recovery possible?
* David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-26-07 13:50]: Patrick Shanahan wrote: The GNome Partition Editor probably does as much for a better price: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php I've never had much luck with gnuparted. I always get 'unsupported feature' when I try to use it on ext3 volumes. It doesn't seem to like NTFS, either. Most of my systems have one or both of those filesystems. It has been updated in the last several days. -- Patrick ShanahanRegistered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org@ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 OpenSUSE Linux http://en.opensuse.org/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Flash
* Jay Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-26-07 13:59]: So I installed Flash 9 from tarball onto my computer. It works pretty well except on some sites, drop down menus will go behind images or I'll get a lot of grey in some areas. Anyone else experience that? If so, how did you fix it? Maybe there's a setting in firefox or something? Know that you have introduced potential problems to your system installing a tar-ball. openSUSE is an rpm based system and your rpm dabase does not know about flash9. Best to remove the tar-ball and install the available rpm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ftp-1.gwdg.de/linux/suse/opensuse/repositories mozilla/ -- Patrick ShanahanRegistered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org@ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 OpenSUSE Linux http://en.opensuse.org/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] xgl not working for 10.1 (Gnome)
On Fri, 2007-02-23 at 13:42 -0600, Jonathan Puthoff wrote: Hi! I am trying to get the 3D desktop working on a brand-new install of 10.1. The installation of xgl and compiz packages (fresh ones!) worked fine and so I did Control Center - Desktop Effects - Enable Desktop Effects. The display informs me that my card is supported, but when I restart the display (via a logout/login) my windows are messed up (lack titlebars. . .) and nothing seems to work correctly. Disabling the 3D desktop puts everything back just fine. I am using an Intel 945 GM card. . .is this perhaps the problem? This sounds like the issue https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=180506 For which an update was released. -JP -- JP Rosevear [EMAIL PROTECTED] Novell, Inc. Thanks much for the assistance, but I am not authorized to access bug #180506. Um, what does it say and is there a fix? jon -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Consistency with power privileges
/me shakes head in despair. Two questions get asked... ... and the response is a lecture-style, based on a (wrong) assumption that everyone is just migrating from Windows (only use that excuse for an OS when my work enforces it on me - my Linux use goes back to RH4.0 back in '96) and a sizable, if somewhat irrelevant discussion - for which I now must put my oar in, and no actual practical assistance on the problem in hand. This (from M Harris) philosophy does hold true of servers and mainframes, and I grant you to some degree, in your library incident as well. Really tightly configured secure systems are something that I do subscribe to at work (200+solaris jobbies) I don't want just any numptie shutting the machines down - and this I like to extend to my home servers,for example, most have a 64MiB install footprint complete with services running, there are no superfluous binaries or users on the system - period. HOWEVER There are a number of holes and caveats in the argument.. If someone has physical access, as per library example, who cares about the prevention of system shutdown ?? they've had physical access, it ain't your machine any longer.. however momentary the access. (more true of desktop machines, where typically you can't see the keyboard cable plugged into the back - perfect for a hardware keylogger for example ) If one were stupid enough to leave their laptop lying around, even if for a moment, anyone could do anything nasty with it - I sure as hell won't - it's MY laptop after all, I will pick it up and walk around with it - lid open if wirelessly connected and downloading was that essential - however, I would happily wait and re-download something if it meant I KNEW my laptop was safe and secure with me. There is only one time I leave my laptop un-attented, my work laptop mind, not personal one, and that is in the data-centre at work, you need a card to get in for a start.. If the laptops weren't unattended, I may see your point, but my personal laptop, my usage pattern, I'd wager my fingers would stop the lid closing to start with :-) -but ignoring that, on AC, shutting the lid blanks screen - nothing else, locked or unlocked - good thing; on battery, suspends it, again, precisely how I want/need it because that is how I configured it - - oh and it's easy to change this behaviour to something else.h... (note here personal usage pattern) ... and besides, the library incident is not the scenario I am talking about - it's more workstations. For my home network (laptop excluded), and I think to be fair, a normal company working environment, which is where Novell is aiming their linux product at, where all users should be centrally managed, the users logged onto the console really need to have the rights to shutdown,hibernate,suspend, (un)mount drives etc.. (Personally I'd actually put 9000 or so Sunray's on desks at work instead of PC's, and the 1000 or so people left that need to (un)mount hardware would actually have a valid reason to have dumb hardware - but that is another discussion) A lot of these sort of machines are not really multi-user systems in the true sense of the terminology, (Sunrays and their ilk excepted) - yes they are capable of being multi-user, the only user likely to do something on them at the same time that another is logged on, is the admin (home=me, company=IT). The best example of why users must be allowed to shut the things down - is when they go home, if only to save the company money; if the machines needed to be powered on for some update or something overnight, wake on lan is a perfect solution for such a scenario. Suspend is rather nice for quite a lot of this as well, how much more productive is it to this a software button, power-off, come in next morning, hit physical power button, and everything i was working on, all my firefox tabs, all my 1/2 written emails, saved, but still open documents re-open exactly where I left them? That is real usability +point I want/need... along with others I'd wager. So back to the original question(s)... 1) why the inconsistancy ? ok, granted progress, but it ain't progress when the sysadmins have to run around trying to figure out how to fix what is for all intents and purposes now broken due to change. It would make much better sense to leave this functionality to the next point release IMHO. (i.e. 10.3 in this case) 2) How could this be setup so that either some users, or all valid users can perform the action - - and really, this has to be easy, 'cause again, expand this to a corporate environment, there needs to a way for the support people to tweak the settings on a per machine instance. Regards AM -- I'm not perfect, but I am forgiven -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Consistency with power privileges
Angus MacGyver wrote: For my home network (laptop excluded), and I think to be fair, a normal company working environment, which is where Novell is aiming their linux product at, where all users should be centrally managed, the users logged onto the console really need to have the rights to shutdown,hibernate,suspend, (un)mount drives etc.. Heh...that comment took me back to when I was in college. We had labs with Sun workstations. Unfortunate users who put floppy disks into them soon discovered they lacked the privileges to eject the disk again! No manual eject button on a Sun floppy drive, either... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Consistency with power privileges
On Monday 26 February 2007 18:58, Angus MacGyver wrote: 2) How could this be setup so that either some users, or all valid users can perform the action - If a normal user presses the kde menu button (lower left) and selects Log Out, and the End Session for Userid comes up... is the Suspend Computer botton visible and active? If yes to the above, what message comes back? -- Kind regards, M Harris -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Rosegarden for SuSE 10.2
On Monday 26 February 2007 07:21, Patrick Shanahan wrote: * Damon Register [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-26-07 06:40]: Patrick Shanahan wrote: 19:54 wahoo:~ smart query --show-channels rosegarden4 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [packman] Thanks for your answer. If I understand correctly, I would have to have SMART installed to be able to do this. to get that result with smart, yes, but to get the package, all you need to do is go to packman and download it. You can install it locally with rpm -Uvh package-name, or kpackage for a graphical interface, or konqueror for that matter. Because I am still struggling to understand just the basic default software management of SuSE 10.2 and because I have seen posts indicating there are problems with SMART, I am not at this point willing to install/use SMART. Perhaps that will come later. The problems were/are not with smart but with zmd. And the solution is to remove zmd, and any other zmd related package. The easiest way is using YaST. Than you can use Smart or YaST, whatever you like, to add packman and any other repository that you like and than have all in one, but that when you see newer package version don't jump and update, as it may break your system. I have many repositories in the list, but most of them are disabled, to prevent accidental update, and I did that too. It got no problems, but it happened and to prevent problems I enable them just when I need them. In the process of hunting for Rosegarden, I have stumbled on something called JackLab Audio Distribution at http://jacklab.org/. Since my main purpose for this PC is music, this seems to be a perfect customized SuSE 10.2. I didn't use JackLab as I'm really not equipped for the music. Internal sound chip with no MIDI output is enough to reproduce MIDI files, but nothing else. Even Rosegarden I installed just to try to help others with problems to get sound out of it :-) BTW, Rosegarden will complain about too low system clock frequency, but it will work, IMHO, fine. -- Regards, Rajko. http://en.opensuse.org/Portal -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Flash
Know that you have introduced potential problems to your system installing a tar-ball. openSUSE is an rpm based system and your rpm dabase does not know about flash9. Best to remove the tar-ball and install the available rpm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ftp-1.gwdg.de/linux/suse/opensuse/repositories mozilla/ On one computer I did the RPM as suggested, no real difference. As for the tarball, all it is is the two files that RPM would normally place into folders. When you download the tarball, you pretty much just manually place those files. There seems to be no real compilation. Either way, both computers show similar problem. I was just hoping someone else had this problem. I hear that there are like some settings you can tweak like in Ubuntu or Freespire so I figured it may be the same. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Pre-Installed Linux On Dells Coming!!
Kai Ponte wrote: On Monday 26 February 2007 02:05:58 pm Tony Alfrey wrote: http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/latit_d520?c=usl= ens=bsdcs=04 I tried very hard to select the same components: CPU, memory, graphics card, hard drive, DVD. It would cost me a hundred bucks less for the Vista box. I don't think Dell has quite got this worked out yet. I seem to recall there being some argument for this a while back. The pre-loaded machines actually cost the clone manufacturers less, simply because all the drivers are pre-loaded on some sort of image, whereas they need to spend more labor hours on these machines. I don't understand. Why is there any software labor on a box with no installed operating system? -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd Rather Be Sailing -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Pre-Installed Linux On Dells Coming!!
James Knott wrote: snip There's a Canadian company that sells notebook computers with Linux or no OS for less than they charge for the same hardware with Windows. http://www.angelcomputer.com Thanks! -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd Rather Be Sailing -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Pre-Installed Linux On Dells Coming!!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 James Knott schrieb: There's a Canadian company that sells notebook computers with Linux or no OS for less than they charge for the same hardware with Windows. http://www.angelcomputer.com But those are crap. My old Acer costs the half and is way beter than those. Beside w-lan which needs ndiswrapper, everything in the Acer works out of the box with SUSE 10.1. I need a state-of-the-art laptop working with Linux, core2duo, nvidia 7900, 4 GB RAM, 17, 19xx resolution, Firewire, etc. So I hope Mike will offer some good laptops in the future. I'd even pay more for it than he charges for the same mashines bundled with the Vista-Crap. But IMO it's to early for christmas. ;) thx Jan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF44q8N8oPNJi4M6IRAh3/AJ9hRRwc4OTf9CrIzQvcexB8u0NoIgCfQYo1 0YX8AKZbmgl59Of9g7BFTaQ= =8/lf -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Error with updater (SOLVED)
Robert Lewis wrote: There was an error in installation source initialization. http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.2/repo/oss/suse/: Can't check if source has changed or not. Aborting refresh. http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.2/repo/non-oss/: Can't provide //media.1 from http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.2/repo/non-oss This is happening when from YaST I go to Software Managment. Any suggestions? It worked awhile back. Cheers, Bob The problem turned out to be that the repository was overloaded. I used ftp to walk the path and determine that. To bad the message above didn't give more accurate feedback to the user. I choose a new one closer to me and now all is well. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Flash
I haven't seen the tarball and the files within, but using update via YOU you will get the flash7 updated to flash9 with all tweaking needed to work properly on openSUSE. Mine is working fine with YouTube. I guess that is good test for Flash. Ya, mine is working fine for the most part. Some sights are flaky though. Example top20.vh1.com doesn't wanna work right. I have had it working right once but it's one of those things where you can't remember what you did. Also, which program is YOU? Is it Online Update under YaST? I try using it and I don't get anything really. I was told to get msttcorefonts from it and I can't find it for my life. Maybe you can give me a crach course on that (as a side note lol). Take care. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] broken HD, data recovery possible?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Monday 2007-02-26 at 19:46 +0100, Daniel Bauer wrote: Hello Sandy, Daniel, Patrick, Carlos, Teruel, James, Bandi... :-) thank you very much for your hints. Meanwhile I have downloaded several live CD's and tried with them what I was able to, till now with no success. Nothing really important has been lost, so I will not invest too much work on that topic. I don't now what happened. Somehow it looks as just the whole disk is rotten. It happened to me not yet three weeks ago. I suspect the cable. The BIOS shows it, but fdisk, gparted etc. show a 7.something GB disk, what in fact was a 20 GB disk. It doesn't find /dev/hda1 nor /dev/hda2 and parted says, it can't work with a partition outside of the disk... If the partition table has been trashed, then /dev/hda1, hda2 etc are useless. What I'm interested in is the output of fdisk -l /dev/hda. Does the bios shows the correct size? And you don't mention using gpart. I was just hoping there was a tool which I can download, burn on a CD, boot with it and save the data on a floppy without the need of knowing/thinking so much :-) A floppy is way too small! There is dd, of course, it does that, in raw. (In my early computer days, on NCR systems, we had a dump-command and it just printed out the raw contents of a disk in hexadecimal form, even from an unmounted disk, if I remember correctly. Well, it was a 40 MB (yes, MB not GB!) disk, so probably not quite the same as nowadays...) You have hex and similar tools. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFF45ZMtTMYHG2NR9URAjDbAJ9gv1CxbsCZ6PZOv7SpV37x/fPxnQCfe3a9 +i5t5bgrna1EdTmh7H7MwcY= =ohAA -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] broken HD, data recovery possible?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Monday 2007-02-26 at 10:13 -0700, Teruel de Campo MD wrote: Use ddrescue #dd_rescue /dev/broken /dev/sda Be carefull, that doesn't save an image file. It will overwrite the sda partition table et all. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFF45aWtTMYHG2NR9URAqwYAJ99mDvbk9HVjIlp5AHp+BlQyJNhSACfaqiJ +bh9fCl7qERKmUJ9e2frJWY= =hzs5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Trouble installing Nvidia Driver
On Monday 26 February 2007 15:58, Mike Noble wrote: (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module! ... (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration. Have you tried to configure card using sax2 -r -m 0=nvidia while it is used in http://en.opensuse.org/NVIDIA#The_hard_way it maybe necessary to reconfigure /etc/X11/xorg.conf for your card. Last time I looked at the nvidia postinstall script was designed to change the driver name in /etc/X11/xorg.conf from nv to nvidia. That leaves everything else in xorg.conf as it was before and possibly useless for a new card. -- Regards, Rajko. http://en.opensuse.org/Portal -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Sony Vaio speed issue - battery normal, AC slow !!!
On Monday 26 February 2007, Roger.Munoz wrote: I've had a look at top and nothing jumps out to suggest anything is wrong. I think the problem lies with acpi because if I turn off acpi at boot, every thing is ok (apart from the fact the powersave functions are disabled). Any more ideas? So turning off acpi is good. I'd suggest turning it back on and shutting down powersaved just to see if you get the same results. As a long time Sony user: I can assure you turning off acpi on a sony of recent vintage is NOT the answer. These machines NEED acpi to keep all the peripherals running. There is something else wrong here. -- _ John Andersen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Pre-Installed Linux On Dells Coming!!
On Monday 26 February 2007 05:32:39 pm Tony Alfrey wrote: Kai Ponte wrote: It would cost me a hundred bucks less for the Vista box. I don't think Dell has quite got this worked out yet. I seem to recall there being some argument for this a while back. The pre-loaded machines actually cost the clone manufacturers less, simply because all the drivers are pre-loaded on some sort of image, whereas they need to spend more labor hours on these machines. I don't understand. Why is there any software labor on a box with no installed operating system? The articles I had read - which all delt with why Linux doesn't come pre-installed on mass-market systems - had to do with certifying all hardware works when there is no OS loaded. Now, when I used to mass-market white-box systems in the '90s, I pretty much just ran a DOS-based test floppy on all systems to make sure they worked. I used to burn in all systems for at least 24 hours. I don't know if PC makers still do this. -- kai www.perfectreign.com || www.4thedadz.com www.filesite.org || www.donutmonster.com closing the doors that surround me so no one will ever penetrate complete my retreat just to wait for the day that never comes so i will laugh alone -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Flash
On Monday 26 February 2007 13:57, Jay Smith wrote: So I installed Flash 9 from tarball onto my computer. It works pretty well except on some sites, drop down menus will go behind images or I'll get a lot of grey in some areas. Anyone else experience that? If so, how did you fix it? Maybe there's a setting in firefox or something? The drop down menus going behind a Flash movie can be remedied in the page's HTML. I ran into this myself a few times. Tell the site's web team to insert param mode='transparent' into the object/embed tags. I think this may still not fix the problem on Safari, but who cares. At any rate, this problem is not with your Flash 9 install on Linux. Not sure about the gray areas. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Sony Vaio speed issue - battery normal, AC slow !!!
On Monday 26 February 2007, ken wrote: I have almost the same problem on my Dell. When I switch from mains to battery, there's a CPU spike which lasts for several minutes. That is perfectly normal. On mains the pc runs at full speed. On battery it drops to about half. Usually by changes to clock speed, sometimes by entering a brief sleep mode. You subtracted approx 50% of the CPU capability by switching to battery So the cpu utilization goes up - it still has the same amount of work to do, but its clock speed was reduced by the switch over so it takes it longer to do each thing. This looks like a busier system, because it is busy a larger percent of the available cycles. Nothing surprising here. -- _ John Andersen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Beryl
On Monday 26 February 2007, Stevens wrote: I just finished an evaluation of Beryl, Emerald and XGL on my Suse 10.2 system and I have to say that Vista has nothing special in comparison. What a desktop enhancement! Now, having said that, I have to report that I removed it all from the computer because of the extra overhead that it requires and because I personally do not need or want many of the bells and whistles that are provided. So, to summarize, it is really nice eye candy but it made my system slow down because I don't have gobs of memory. Fred That was my assessment too. This stuff has no place on a working machine. Maybe just to show off, but realistically it adds nothing to usability that can not be achieved easier with multiple desktops. -- _ John Andersen pgpw37s4CqlbD.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse] Consistency with power privileges
On Monday 26 February 2007, Billie Erin Walsh wrote: I'm sorry, but I see the above scenario as an I D Ten T error. Everyone deserved exactly what they got. Except no mention of what the Campus Clown got. At the school I went to, he would have gotten a hockey stick in the teeth. -- _ John Andersen pgperGOPw1ezY.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse] Beryl
On 2/26/07, John Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That was my assessment too. This stuff has no place on a working machine. Maybe just to show off, but realistically it adds nothing to usability that can not be achieved easier with multiple desktops. I tend to agree, but I do think that there is more to it: specifically I think that 3d is an enabling technology primarily and right now what it mostly enables is eye-candy. But I thnk down the road (not that far) will be more productivity and functionally useful tools that leverage the basic tech. I believe it is much like faster processors, larger drives, and more memory it will not be going away. And in fact, I would not be surprised to see the visualation stuff end up being pivotal in significant ways ... Peter -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Consistency with power privileges
On Monday 26 February 2007, M Harris wrote: On Monday 26 February 2007 18:58, Angus MacGyver wrote: 2) How could this be setup so that either some users, or all valid users can perform the action - If a normal user presses the kde menu button (lower left) and selects Log Out, and the End Session for Userid comes up... is the Suspend Computer botton visible and active? If yes to the above, what message comes back? More to the point, if you press and hold the power button what happens? Shutdown? Yup. Any shutdown security is meaningless when someone has access to the console. -- _ John Andersen pgpdZyOOh6HCZ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse] Beryl
Peter Van Lone wrote: On 2/26/07, John Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That was my assessment too. This stuff has no place on a working machine. Maybe just to show off, but realistically it adds nothing to usability that can not be achieved easier with multiple desktops. I tend to agree, but I do think that there is more to it: specifically I think that 3d is an enabling technology primarily and right now what it mostly enables is eye-candy. But I thnk down the road (not that far) will be more productivity and functionally useful tools that leverage the basic tech. I believe it is much like faster processors, larger drives, and more memory it will not be going away. And in fact, I would not be surprised to see the visualation stuff end up being pivotal in significant ways ... Peter I so not strongly disagree with the people, but I find the ability to shade the windows very useful. It help reduces the clutter on window when working. If it was not for the Emerald theme, I would be using the standard Compiz. -- Joseph Loo [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Linux on Dell preloads
On Monday 26 February 2007, M Harris wrote: Well, its about time. It doesn't look like Dell will be totally patronizing one distro, but one article said Dell was working with Novell. The is a fantastic action... because it was the result of Dell taking a hard look at its user suggestion box... we want Linux, and we want Openoffice. I've purchased about 12 Dell systems in the last year for my company and my customers. I never fail to mention to the sales people that I am interested in Linux. As early as last november they started telling me to keep my eye on dell because they were working on something, but they were not free to say what. -- _ John Andersen pgpJ6P6WEgbPD.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse] Flash
On Monday 26 February 2007 20:22, Jay Smith wrote: I haven't seen the tarball and the files within, but using update via YOU you will get the flash7 updated to flash9 with all tweaking needed to work properly on openSUSE. Mine is working fine with YouTube. I guess that is good test for Flash. Ya, mine is working fine for the most part. Some sights are flaky though. Example top20.vh1.com doesn't wanna work right. I have had it working right once but it's one of those things where you can't remember what you did. Also, which program is YOU? Is it Online Update under YaST? I try using it and I don't get anything really. I was told to get msttcorefonts from it and I can't find it for my life. Maybe you can give me a crach course on that (as a side note lol). Take care. It works in Firefox although the: http://www.vh1.com/shows/series/top_20_countdown/ has big gray surface and then below the rest of the page. When you open it in Konqueror the menu is missing, and than using Video link and from drop down menu select first item you get page where among other things you can see VH1 VSPOT is optimized for Flash 8. The Konqueror was configured to tell the site it is IE6 on XP. So, nothing is wrong with your Flash 9 and their comment that you need to upgrade is obvious bad detection as Konqueror is doesn't tell enough. And, YOU is YaST Online Update, the same as Online Update in YaST Control Center. Try to set your own update source in YaST installation sources. Something like: ftp://ftp-1.gwdg.de/pub/suse/update/ example for 10.2 FTP Server: ftp-1.gwdg.de/ Path on server: pub/suse/update/10.2 Path is the same as directory. Than go to Online Update and see what it does. It should show you some updates. -- Regards, Rajko. http://en.opensuse.org/Portal -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Consistency with power privileges
On Monday 26 February 2007 18:56, John Andersen wrote: ... Except no mention of what the Campus Clown got. At the school I went to, he would have gotten a hockey stick in the teeth. I hesitate to ask, but what school was that? RRS -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Pre-Installed Linux On Dells Coming!!
On Monday 26 February 2007 20:46, Kai Ponte wrote: On Monday 26 February 2007 05:32:39 pm Tony Alfrey wrote: Kai Ponte wrote: It would cost me a hundred bucks less for the Vista box. I don't think Dell has quite got this worked out yet. I seem to recall there being some argument for this a while back. The pre-loaded machines actually cost the clone manufacturers less, simply because all the drivers are pre-loaded on some sort of image, whereas they need to spend more labor hours on these machines. I don't understand. Why is there any software labor on a box with no installed operating system? There is no, but hardware for windows is often cheaper as it is using main CPU to run driver instead of built in one. Example is winmodem. It has only signal processor, no CPU. The articles I had read - which all delt with why Linux doesn't come pre-installed on mass-market systems - had to do with certifying all hardware works when there is no OS loaded. Now, when I used to mass-market white-box systems in the '90s, I pretty much just ran a DOS-based test floppy on all systems to make sure they worked. I used to burn in all systems for at least 24 hours. I don't know if PC makers still do this. No. It is cheaper to replace failed system, as nowadays not many will fail. Apropos cloning, it doesn't matter what is on hard disk when you clone image to disk. You connect it to cloner and after few minutes drive is ready to go. It has more to do with preparation of images for particular hardware, but if they want then distributions will gladly run that job for them. All distro needs is hardware to configure original hard disk for imaging. -- Regards, Rajko. http://en.opensuse.org/Portal -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
