Re: [opensuse-factory] Boot speed and services
On Wed 14 Mar 2007 23:24:49 NZDT +1300, Gaël Lams wrote: There used to be the following lines in /etc/sysconfig/mail: ## Type:yesno ## Default: no ## Config: postfix # # Set this to yes if mail from remote should be accepted # this is necessary for any mail server. # If set to no or empty then only mail from localhost # will be accepted. # SMTPD_LISTEN_REMOTE=no This prevents sendmail/postfix from accepting mail for delivery from interfaces other than localhost. Note that once mail has been accepted for delivery, there is no restriction as where this mail will be delivered to. This is a useless restriction for preventing any local users from sending mail to anywhere on the internet. Note also that mail can be given to sendmail/postfix for delivery by anyone calling /usr/sbin/sendmail. Why have they been removed? They haven't. Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann is list0570 with the domain in header http://volker.dnsalias.net/ Please do not CC list postings to me. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Boot speed and services
Hi
It hasn't been removed: I have it (10.2)
However, notice that that line does not prevent mail from being _sent_ to
outside. It just prevents mail from being sent to that system using smtp
(ie, postfix or sendmail).
I thought it had been removed because I just installed a few days ago
a virtual machine with opensuse 10.3 and these lines were not present.
But you're right, I didn't read well the message and it was about
blocking delivery to external hosts.
I could be wrong but I think that, to configure the machine for local
only delivery of local mail, i.e to receive in a local account on the
local machine the mail sent from the machine itself, you only have to
modify the following parameters in /etc/postfix/main.cf:
myhostname = localhost
mydomain = localdomain
inet_interfaces = localhost
mydestination = $myhostname, localhost.$mydomain, localhost
mynetworks_style = host
Regards,
Gaël
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[opensuse-factory] Re: dvd-delta-isos
Andreas Vetter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, 15 Mar 2007, Andreas Vetter wrote: On Thu, 15 Mar 2007, Andreas Jaeger wrote: I'm glad to announce the second public alpha release of openSUSE 10.3. ... I try to get the dvd-delta-isos using ktorrent. It says Tracker: invalid response Seeders: 0 Is it on my side, or do you experience the same? Now it works. Thanks. Yeah, we restarted the tracker, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpEMRgtzBQFh.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Boot speed and services
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Thursday 2007-03-15 at 09:08 +0100, Gaël Lams wrote: I thought it had been removed because I just installed a few days ago a virtual machine with opensuse 10.3 and these lines were not present. I don't know about 10.3. Somebody else can confirm this? But you're right, I didn't read well the message and it was about blocking delivery to external hosts. I could be wrong but I think that, to configure the machine for local only delivery of local mail, i.e to receive in a local account on the local machine the mail sent from the machine itself, you only have to modify the following parameters in /etc/postfix/main.cf: myhostname = localhost mydomain = localdomain inet_interfaces = localhost mydestination = $myhostname, localhost.$mydomain, localhost mynetworks_style = host I have: mydestination = $myhostname, localhost.$mydomain, localhost mydomain = nimrodel.valinor myhostname = nimrodel.valinor mynetworks = 127.0.0.0/8 [::1/128] mynetworks_style = host inet_interfaces = $myhostname, localhost which is very similar and I can send - as you can check looking at this email header ;-) I'm not sure if the small diferences are that crucial :-? - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFF+ZsltTMYHG2NR9URAjmPAKCZVBY0GfRNblVhOQeG1oQmRBI79gCfQAql oRKhg/kmdYXDoz3BF/OymZ4= =4eDI -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [opensuse] Why I don't upgrade often
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Re: [opensuse]:Why I don't upgrade often
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Re: [opensuse] Yast - to upgrade Distribution ?
On Thu 15 Mar 2007 02:05, Bob S wrote: Don't know about now, but way back when, I upgraded 8.0 to 8.1 with apt-get. Just changed my source files from 8.0 to 8.1 and let it go. Worked pretty well but there were things that had to be fixed. Would be interesting to know if it can still be done. ___ Patrick Kirsch kindly advised:- . . . But upgrading from 10.1 to 10.2 to 10.3 should work with e.g. yast. ... have a Good Day -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] mod_perl in OpenSuse 10.2
On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 09:42:49PM -0700, Bruce Ferrell wrote: Michael Folsom wrote: Folks: New to mod_perl and am having trouble getting mod_perl going on OpenSuse 10.2. Have a system with apache installed and working and used yast to install mod_perl from the install DVD. It created the directory /srv/www/perl-lib and in /etc/apache2 I find mod_perl-startup.pl and in /etc/apache2/conf.d I find mod_perl.conf. Problem is when I dropped the file rock.pl (see below) in /srv/www/perl-lib it doesn't run - meaning I go to http://server_name/perl-lib/rock.pl in a browser and get an Object not found!. Permissions on rock.pl: -rwxr-xr-x 1 nobody nobody 85 2007-03-14 21:56 rock.pl ... rock.pl #!/usr/bin/perl print Content-type: text/plain\n\n; print mod_perl 2.0 rocks!\n; Suggestions appreciated! Michael what do the apache logs tell you? Is it similar to this: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=245173 -- Richard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Why I don't upgrade often
Hi, On Thursday 15 March 2007 05:43, John Andersen wrote: On Wednesday 14 March 2007, Hartmut Meyer wrote: There are hardly any scenarios where one could give any other advise but to upgrade from an old/unsupported version to a newer/supported version. 9.1 might be better for you, but unless your system is not connected to any network (including internet dialup) staying on an unsupported system simply isn't a good idea. Says who? Common sense? Linux isn't exactly Windows which can be hacked by 12 year olds riding bikes thru your neighborhood. Even if you are connected to the net 24/7, with no ports or services open you are not any more at risk than with a current distro. With an Iptables firewall you can even open essential services that you need and be quite safe on line. Maybe the CIA can hack their way into a machine with no ports open. But the script kiddies can't. And the CIA is not even vaguely interested in me. I think you are spreading FUD. Really? And what about running application (such as web browsers) or services (such as an MTA or ssh) on an old/unsupported version. Your firewall might be as good as it can get. But if you have a need for say the MTA (old/unsupported MTA that is) being reachable from outside or use a web browser (again: old/unsupported) to browse the net (just two examples) what good will the firewall do you? The kernel isn't the only potential problem and a root exploit not the only potential risk. Is that FUD? Greetings from Stuhr hartmut -- Hartmut Meyer, EMEA NTS Business Development Project Manager SUSE LINUX GmbH, GF: Volker Smid, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg T: +49 421 3064385 - M: +49 179 2279480 F: +49 421 3064387 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE® Linux Enterprise 10 - Your Linux is ready http://www.novell.com/linux pgpyY4J4S45x5.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse] how to run multiple version of firefox
Hi, Dan wrote: Does anyone know how you can run multiple versions of firefox. I have version 2.0.0.2 installed on opensuse 10.2 and I downloaded firefox 1.5.0.10. When I have one version running and try to open up a new window using the other version it just runs the same version that I already have open. If I close both windows and then open up the other version the same thing happenshope this makes sense. run the other version with MOZ_NO_REMOTE=1 exported ? Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] ALC850 problems in 10.2
Anyone who's managed to get any sound from a Realtek ALC850 chip in 10.2? I just tried to install on a MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum and the sound is detected as nVidia nForce3.. The mobo carry the nForce chipset, but the audio part is served by the Realtek chip... -- Anders Norrbring Norrbring Consulting -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] install a tar file?
can i install a tar file; and how would i accomplish this? the program, cabaret for linux, is not an rpm. would some one please explain the process to me? thanks, dwain -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Why I don't upgrade often
On Thursday 15 March 2007, Hartmut Meyer wrote: Hi, On Thursday 15 March 2007 05:43, John Andersen wrote: On Wednesday 14 March 2007, Hartmut Meyer wrote: There are hardly any scenarios where one could give any other advise but to upgrade from an old/unsupported version to a newer/supported version. 9.1 might be better for you, but unless your system is not connected to any network (including internet dialup) staying on an unsupported system simply isn't a good idea. Says who? Common sense? Linux isn't exactly Windows which can be hacked by 12 year olds riding bikes thru your neighborhood. Even if you are connected to the net 24/7, with no ports or services open you are not any more at risk than with a current distro. With an Iptables firewall you can even open essential services that you need and be quite safe on line. Maybe the CIA can hack their way into a machine with no ports open. But the script kiddies can't. And the CIA is not even vaguely interested in me. I think you are spreading FUD. Really? And what about running application (such as web browsers) or services (such as an MTA or ssh) on an old/unsupported version. Your firewall might be as good as it can get. But if you have a need for say the MTA (old/unsupported MTA that is) being reachable from outside or use a web browser (again: old/unsupported) to browse the net (just two examples) what good will the firewall do you? The kernel isn't the only potential problem and a root exploit not the only potential risk. Is that FUD? Greetings from Stuhr hartmut Has it occurred to you you haven't been able to point out a single flaw related to an older version of Suse linux but are forced instead to trot out fictional flaws in applications as a surrogate for your FUD? -- _ John Andersen pgpbs2b3R0TJK.pgp Description: PGP signature
[opensuse] Installation problem with Linux Format dvd version 10.2
Hopefully someone will put me straight from a start. Have:Dell Inspiron 8000 was: dual 7.2 / windows me Had no problem installing and was working ok. Decided to delete contents of 7.2 as the psrtitions were no longer in use and install 10.2 from Feb 2007 Linux Format DVD (LXFDVD89) Gets to the package installation step and errors Base message: insert 20070315-094527 CD1 Detailed message: Failed to mount cd:///?devices=/dev/hdb: mount media failed cdrom is /dev/hdb listed as /dev/hdb cdrom,dev3:64 model matshitadvd-ram uj-840s revision 1.0 driver piix_ide checked this in loaded drivers and this driver is loaded. the dvd worked as the dvd started from that so it shouldn't have failed I have looked at laptop page and bugzilla and can't see anything. I had expected modem problem as it uses a LT winmodem driver but not a problem this early any ideas please thanks in advance scsijon -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.11/721 - Release Date: 13/03/2007 4:51 PM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] install a tar file?
Torsdag 15 marts 2007 10:27 skrev dwain: can i install a tar file; and how would i accomplish this? the program, cabaret for linux, is not an rpm. would some one please explain the process to me? thanks, dwain Hi Dwain,, - you don't directly install a tar file. It's a packed 'tape archive', aka zip file. We need to now the name of said file, does it end in -tar or -tar.gz or tgz or... Anyhow, if it's -tar.gz you do: Open a shell. I'll asssume you downloaded the -tar.gz file to somewhere within your home directory. You then need to 'untar' the file. Try this: tar xvfz filename.tar.gz or if it doesn't end in a 'z', do this: tar xvf filename.tar This should give you a lot/some files, all located in a directory of their own. Change to this dir. Become root, perhaps by issuing a 'su' Read the README if it's there. Follow whatever instructions are there. -- - Med venlig hilsen/Best regards Verner Kjærsgaard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Login problems
Hi all, I'm new to this list and also new to OpenSuse. I've installed 10.2 on my system and it worked fine for almost 2 weeks. Since today I can't login with the normal username/password in KDE. Root login is possible. When login in, the screen turns to black for a few seconds and I'm going back to the login screen. Creating a new user from the root login doesn't change anything. The new user has the same problem. Where should i look to find a solution for this? Regards, Udo. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] ssh
Hey, In the file: /etc/ssh/sshd_config you can change the line with #PermitRootLogin yes into PermitRootLogin without-pasword This retrict you either to do a su - from a nonpriviliged user, or use a key-pair. Works like a charm! But how can i tweak this value in xml for autoyast? One idea is to use a post-install section /1/ with a script to do this (e.g. via perl's in place edit). /1/ http://www.suse.com/~ug/autoyast_doc/createprofile.scripts.html#post-insall.scripts Greetings, -- Patrick Kirsch - Quality Assurance Department SUSE Linux Products GmbH GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nuernberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Re: Why I don't upgrade often
Joe Morris (NTM) wrote: Eberhard Roloff wrote: Well, not exactly CD/DVD, but: -anytime I connect my external disk for backup, the two partitions on it are named differently, which does not really simply my rsync scripts that I use for backup. What I did for that is first umount via /dev/node, then I went ahead and then added code to fsck if needed, then remount to a fixed mount point. It is working great. Thanks Joe, I do it just like this and indeed it works. This is the plain great unix style that works anytime. Now, one question: What do you mean by adding code to fsck? And what do you achieve doing this? Thanks much for clarification Eberhard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Why I don't upgrade often
Hi, On Thursday 15 March 2007 10:28, John Andersen wrote: On Thursday 15 March 2007, Hartmut Meyer wrote: On Thursday 15 March 2007 05:43, John Andersen wrote: On Wednesday 14 March 2007, Hartmut Meyer wrote: Linux isn't exactly Windows which can be hacked by 12 year olds riding bikes thru your neighborhood. Even if you are connected to the net 24/7, with no ports or services open you are not any more at risk than with a current distro. With an Iptables firewall you can even open essential services that you need and be quite safe on line. Maybe the CIA can hack their way into a machine with no ports open. But the script kiddies can't. And the CIA is not even vaguely interested in me. I think you are spreading FUD. Really? And what about running application (such as web browsers) or services (such as an MTA or ssh) on an old/unsupported version. Your firewall might be as good as it can get. But if you have a need for say the MTA (old/unsupported MTA that is) being reachable from outside or use a web browser (again: old/unsupported) to browse the net (just two examples) what good will the firewall do you? The kernel isn't the only potential problem and a root exploit not the only potential risk. Is that FUD? Has it occurred to you you haven't been able to point out a single flaw related to an older version of Suse linux but are forced instead to trot out fictional flaws in applications as a surrogate for your FUD? You're right: I didn't point out a single flaw. But that's not because they don't exist. Rather it's because I don't pay attention and/or memorise such instances. It's not my field of expertise. Are you on the other hand saying that such security relevant problems (in both new and old versions) don't exist? I don't imagine so ... Just for the sake of it, let's have a look at the most recent recommended update as announced on the suse-security-announce mailing list on the 6th of March: --- snip - SUSE Security Announcement Package:MozillaFirefox,seamonkey Announcement ID:SUSE-SA:2007:019 Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:00:00 + Affected Products: SUSE LINUX 9.3 SUSE LINUX 10.0 SUSE LINUX 10.1 openSUSE 10.2 Novell Linux Desktop 9 SUSE SLED 10 SUSE SLES 10 Vulnerability Type: remote code execution Severity (1-10):6 SUSE Default Package: yes Cross-References: CVE-2006-6077, CVE-2007-0008, CVE-2007-0009 CVE-2007-0775, CVE-2007-0776, CVE-2007-0777 CVE-2007-0778, CVE-2007-0779, CVE-2007-0780 CVE-2007-0800, CVE-2007-0981, CVE-2007-0994 CVE-2007-0995, CVE-2007-0996, CVE-2007-1092 MFSA 2006-72, MFSA 2007-01, MFSA 2007-02 MFSA 2007-03, MFSA 2007-04, MFSA 2007-05 MFSA 2007-06, MFSA 2007-08, MFSA 2007-09 Content of This Advisory: 1) Security Vulnerability Resolved: Mozilla Firefox security release 1.5.0.10 / 2.0.0.2 Problem Description 2) Solution or Work-Around 3) Special Instructions and Notes 4) Package Location and Checksums 5) Pending Vulnerabilities, Solutions, and Work-Arounds: See SUSE Security Summary Report. 6) Authenticity Verification and Additional Information __ 1) Problem Description and Brief Discussion The Mozilla Firefox web browser was updated to security update version 1.5.0.10 on older products and Mozilla Firefox to version 2.0.0.2 on openSUSE 10.2 to fix various security issues. Updates for the Mozilla seamonkey suite before 10.2, Mozilla Suite and Mozilla Thunderbird are still pending. Full details can be found on: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/security/known-vulnerabilities.html - MFSA 2007-01: As part of the Firefox 2.0.0.2 and 1.5.0.10 update releases several bugs were fixed to improve the stability of the browser. Some of these were crashes that showed evidence of memory corruption and we presume that with enough effort at least some of these could be exploited to run arbitrary code. These fixes affected the layout engine (CVE-2007-0775), SVG renderer (CVE-2007-0776) and javascript engine (CVE-2007-0777). - MFSA 2007-02: Various enhancements were done to make XSS exploits against websites less effective. These included fixes for invalid trailing characters (CVE-2007-0995), child frame
Re: [opensuse] Login problems
Hi Udo, I'm new to this list and also new to OpenSuse. I've installed 10.2 on my system and it worked fine for almost 2 weeks. Since today I can't login with the normal username/password in KDE. Root login is possible. When login in, the screen turns to black for a few seconds and I'm going back to the login screen. Creating a new user from the root login doesn't change anything. The new user has the same problem. Where should i look to find a solution for this? Please check if your harddisk is full. IIRC I had a similar problem after filling up my harddisk long time ago. But maybe I'm fully wrong ... -- David Mayr, http://davey.de openSUSE LINUX, http://opensuse.de -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Login problems
Am Donnerstag, 15. März 2007 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all, I'm new to this list and also new to OpenSuse. I've installed 10.2 on my system and it worked fine for almost 2 weeks. Since today I can't login with the normal username/password in KDE. Root login is possible. When login in, the screen turns to black for a few seconds and I'm going back to the login screen. Creating a new user from the root login doesn't change anything. The new user has the same problem. Where should i look to find a solution for this? Regards, Udo. Hello Udo Try this, login as root and remove the .ICEauthority from the user home To do so, start a console as root, and typ rm /home/udo/.ICEauthority I don´t know if this solves your Prob, but it sounds like a prob i had after upgrading KDE for a while. After this the .ICEauthority had wrong permissions which cause the same result.. Hope this helps Michael -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: Why I don't upgrade often
Eberhard Roloff wrote: Thanks Joe, I do it just like this and indeed it works. This is the plain great unix style that works anytime. Glad it also worked for you. Now, one question: What do you mean by adding code to fsck? And what do you achieve doing this? I decided it would be good to make sure the filesystem was always consistent. So, not being a programmer, I shamelessly copied the relevant part of the script in /etc/init.d/boot.localfs to check the status of the filesystem and fsck it if needed. I actually put my backup script together back during 8.2, so I used the code for then. When 9.3 started automounting, I changed to always umount first, then fsck, then mount and backup. With 10.2, I needed to tweak it some to umount by the dev rather than mountpoint, but other than that it has worked very well. Thanks much for clarification No problem. No use in struggling to solved what has already been solved. :-) -- Joe Morris Registered Linux user 231871 running openSUSE 10.2 x86_64 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Yast - to upgrade Distribution ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Wednesday 2007-03-14 at 08:57 -0400, Abstract wrote: I know in the past I heard you could not upgrade suse major revision upgrades, just minor. Rubish! I upgraded from 9.3 to 10.2, via the install dvd. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFF+Sn0tTMYHG2NR9URApo+AJ9wV5h2f6IBJo7hGD3HjqwFL0O3mgCdHZ3t gLNGAjDNDKVqnQz613e4Ytk= =KXf4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Why I don't upgrade often
Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: We probably should not want any one operating system, be it proprietary, open-source or a hybrid, to displace all others. Monopolies and monocultures have bad consequences by their inherent nature. Very true. Just as tool boxes are full of both metric and SAE sockets here, as well as phillips and slotted head screwdrivers. I think you have this analogy slightly wrong. Metric and SAE are standards, as are slotted/crosshead/Phillips, the former at least defined by international standards bodies and agreed between manufacturers. The equivalent would be all screwdrivers being designed and made by Philips and marketed in such a way that people are led to say You can't undo that screw? Of course not, that's not a real Phillips screwdriver. Or all sizes of plywood being given public random numbers by a manufacturer with a set of additional secret numbers per type describing slight variations such that you have to tell the manufacturer what you're doing or they have to anticipate it otherwise the parts won't quite fit properly. I've probably overcomplicated it: the difference between agreed standards and de facto standards is what I'm getting at. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Why I don't upgrade often
Kai Ponte wrote: Those server guys have one odd sense of humor. I have often referred to users as mere mortals. ;-) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Why I don't upgrade often
John Andersen wrote: On Wednesday 14 March 2007, Hartmut Meyer wrote: There are hardly any scenarios where one could give any other advise but to upgrade from an old/unsupported version to a newer/supported version. 9.1 might be better for you, but unless your system is not connected to any network (including internet dialup) staying on an unsupported system simply isn't a good idea. Says who? Linux isn't exactly Windows which can be hacked by 12 year olds riding bikes thru your neighborhood. Even if you are connected to the net 24/7, with no ports or services open you are not any more at risk than with a current distro. With an Iptables firewall you can even open essential services that you need and be quite safe on line. Maybe the CIA can hack their way into a machine with no ports open. But the script kiddies can't. And the CIA is not even vaguely interested in me. I think you are spreading FUD. FWIW, my firewall is SUSE 10.0. It's up continuously and always on the net. No problems so far. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Re: Why I don't upgrade often
Joe Morris (NTM) wrote: Eberhard Roloff wrote: Thanks Joe, I do it just like this and indeed it works. This is the plain great unix style that works anytime. Glad it also worked for you. Now, one question: What do you mean by adding code to fsck? And what do you achieve doing this? I decided it would be good to make sure the filesystem was always consistent. So, not being a programmer, I shamelessly copied the relevant part of the script in /etc/init.d/boot.localfs to check the status of the filesystem and fsck it if needed. I actually put my backup script together back during 8.2, so I used the code for then. When 9.3 started automounting, I changed to always umount first, then fsck, then mount and backup. With 10.2, I needed to tweak it some to umount by the dev rather than mountpoint, but other than that it has worked very well. Thanks much for clarification No problem. No use in struggling to solved what has already been solved. :-) Brilliant! Thanks again Eberhard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Why I don't upgrade often
James Knott wrote: John Andersen wrote: On Wednesday 14 March 2007, Hartmut Meyer wrote: There are hardly any scenarios where one could give any other advise but to upgrade from an old/unsupported version to a newer/supported version. 9.1 might be better for you, but unless your system is not connected to any network (including internet dialup) staying on an unsupported system simply isn't a good idea. Says who? Linux isn't exactly Windows which can be hacked by 12 year olds riding bikes thru your neighborhood. Even if you are connected to the net 24/7, with no ports or services open you are not any more at risk than with a current distro. With an Iptables firewall you can even open essential services that you need and be quite safe on line. Maybe the CIA can hack their way into a machine with no ports open. But the script kiddies can't. And the CIA is not even vaguely interested in me. I think you are spreading FUD. FWIW, my firewall is SUSE 10.0. It's up continuously and always on the net. No problems so far. Hi List Excuse me if this appears twice - it shouldn't I hope! I have always upgraded within two versions max at home while in work I immediately upgrade. At my last employer I would upgrade all the workstations from SuSE Retail distro and the upgrade option worked a treat but not always certain apps/software would cause dependencies issues But there was a choice to remove the packages it was referring too. But nonetheless I would be able to upgrade So YMMV springs to mind and everyone's environment is a vortex in one shape or form. Cheers -- Chuck Amadi ROK Corporation Limited Ty ROK, Dyffryn Business Park, Llantwit Major Road, Llandow, Vale Of Glamorgan. CF71 7PY Tel: 01446 795 839 Fax: 01446 794 994 International Tel: +44 1446 795 839 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email is confidential to the addressee only. If you do not believe that you are the intended recipient, do not pass it on or copy it in any way. Please delete it immediately. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Why I don't upgrade often
Chuck Amadi wrote: James Knott wrote: John Andersen wrote: On Wednesday 14 March 2007, Hartmut Meyer wrote: There are hardly any scenarios where one could give any other advise but to upgrade from an old/unsupported version to a newer/supported version. 9.1 might be better for you, but unless your system is not connected to any network (including internet dialup) staying on an unsupported system simply isn't a good idea. Says who? Linux isn't exactly Windows which can be hacked by 12 year olds riding bikes thru your neighborhood. Even if you are connected to the net 24/7, with no ports or services open you are not any more at risk than with a current distro. With an Iptables firewall you can even open essential services that you need and be quite safe on line. Maybe the CIA can hack their way into a machine with no ports open. But the script kiddies can't. And the CIA is not even vaguely interested in me. I think you are spreading FUD. FWIW, my firewall is SUSE 10.0. It's up continuously and always on the net. No problems so far. Hi List Excuse me if this appears twice - it shouldn't I hope! I have always upgraded within two versions max at home while in work I immediately upgrade. At my last employer I would upgrade all the workstations from SuSE Retail distro and the upgrade option worked a treat but not always certain apps/software would cause dependencies issues But there was a choice to remove the packages it was referring too. But nonetheless I would be able to upgrade So YMMV springs to mind and everyone's environment is a vortex in one shape or form. Cheers Hi again forgot to mention upgrade when I want too not when I am told by the others . Choice too upgrade is great and empowering to the end users. Cheers Chuck -- Chuck Amadi ROK Corporation Limited Ty ROK, Dyffryn Business Park, Llantwit Major Road, Llandow, Vale Of Glamorgan. CF71 7PY Tel: 01446 795 839 Fax: 01446 794 994 International Tel: +44 1446 795 839 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email is confidential to the addressee only. If you do not believe that you are the intended recipient, do not pass it on or copy it in any way. Please delete it immediately. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] samba vs cifs ... what's the diff?
* John Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [03-15-07 01:10]: On Wednesday 14 March 2007, Marcus Meissner wrote: sales losses are quite difficult for a product that is mostly downloaded. The next 10.2 kernel update will include USBFS again btw. Cool, use support returns for Vmware. How soon? posted in this forum 12 Mar 2007: Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:55:59 -0400 From: Patrick Shanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: opensuse@opensuse.org Subject: Re: [opensuse] Kernel Building Resources Recommendations Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Thomas Hertweck [EMAIL PROTECTED] [03-12-07 16:48]: [...] As I wrote in my last email, there are several ways to deal with this problem. If you have to support many systems and not just your local desktop system, then the simplest way might be an RPM package that replaces the default usbcore.ko (from the SuSE kernel installation) with a new (your own) version that has USB_DEVICEFS enabled. This might minimize the possible side-effects as only a single file is changed. [...] 16.55 wahoo:~ rpm -q --changelog kernel-default | head (none)* Fri Mar 09 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Enable CONFIG_USB_DEVICEFS (#210899 and a zillion others.) Turns out that vmware isn't going to change anything, so making our users (and executives) have to build their own kernels is not something we should be doing. I was wrong, sorry. 16:55 wahoo:~ rpm -q kernel-default kernel-default-2.6.18.8-146.1 -- Patrick ShanahanRegistered Linux User #207535 -- Patrick ShanahanRegistered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org@ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 OpenSUSE Linux http://en.opensuse.org/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] install a tar file?
* Verner Kjærsgaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] [03-15-07 05:40]: [...] This should give you a lot/some files, all located in a directory of their own. Change to this dir. Become root, perhaps by issuing a 'su' Read the README if it's there. Follow whatever instructions are there. Which will probably result in a borked system. He should utilize 'checkinstall' instead of 'make install' to maintain integrity of his rpm based system. ESPECIALLY since he does not know how to install a tar ball. -- Patrick ShanahanRegistered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org@ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 OpenSUSE Linux http://en.opensuse.org/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Yast - to upgrade Distribution ?
On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 12:11:46PM +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Wednesday 2007-03-14 at 08:57 -0400, Abstract wrote: I know in the past I heard you could not upgrade suse major revision upgrades, just minor. Rubish! I upgraded from 9.3 to 10.2, via the install dvd. And me too :) -- Richard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Checkinstall fails before running make install (Was: install a tar file?)
Patrick Shanahan wrote: * Verner Kjærsgaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] [03-15-07 05:40]: [...] This should give you a lot/some files, all located in a directory of their own. Change to this dir. Become root, perhaps by issuing a 'su' Read the README if it's there. Follow whatever instructions are there. Which will probably result in a borked system. He should utilize 'checkinstall' instead of 'make install' to maintain integrity of his rpm based system. ESPECIALLY since he does not know how to install a tar ball. As a side note, I often find checkinstall failing, before running make install. That is on *some* packages, I have to do make install; checkinstall; make uninstall, for the RPM to be build. I dont have a specific app in mind, so I can't post the error, just noted that this is sometimes the case. /Sylvester -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Yast - to upgrade Distribution ?
Richard Bos wrote: On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 12:11:46PM +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote: The Wednesday 2007-03-14 at 08:57 -0400, Abstract wrote: I upgraded from 9.3 to 10.2, via the install dvd. And me too :) I'm planning to do just that real soon now on several boxen (laptop, desktop, servers, 32bit, 64bit), some of them mission critical (like my laptop ;-) ). Any snag I have to watch for ? Any recommendation (outside of the usual make a backup/mondoarchive first) ? TIA Cheers. Bye. Ph. A. -- *Philippe Andersson* Unix System Administrator IBA Particle Therapy | Tel: +32-10-475.983 Fax: +32-10-487.707 eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.iba-worldwide.com The contents of this e-mail message and any attachments are intended solely for the recipient (s) named above. This communication is intended to be and to remain confidential and may be protected by intellectual property rights. Any use of the information contained herein (including but not limited to, total or partial reproduction, communication or distribution of any form) by persons other than the designated recipient(s) is prohibited. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Ion Beam Applications does not accept liability for any such errors. Thank you for your cooperation. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[opensuse] setting up a raid (Suse 10.0)
Hello, I have two identical drives, mirrored as /dev/md0, however I am unable to carve out mount points on it or put a swap partition on it. One drive is a system drive and I'd like to mirror it. What is the best way to accomplish this? Thank you, James -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] SuSe 10.2/64 4Gb memory problem
Bas hendriks wrote: I am building a vmware server with SuSe10.2/64 as host os. The problem is that only 2 Gb ram is available in SuSe, while 4 Gb is installed. I think you need to use a kernel with support for 4Gb memory. Either rebuild yourself, or find a suitable opensuse kernel. (maybe a -bigsmp version). /Per Jessen, Zürich -- http://www.spamchek.com/ - managed email security. Starting at SFr1/month/user. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Checkinstall fails before running make install (Was: install a tar file?)
Torsdag 15 marts 2007 13:54 skrev Sylvester Lykkehus: Patrick Shanahan wrote: * Verner Kjærsgaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] [03-15-07 05:40]: [...] This should give you a lot/some files, all located in a directory of their own. Change to this dir. Become root, perhaps by issuing a 'su' Read the README if it's there. Follow whatever instructions are there. Which will probably result in a borked system. He should utilize 'checkinstall' instead of 'make install' to maintain integrity of his rpm based system. ESPECIALLY since he does not know how to install a tar ball. As a side note, I often find checkinstall failing, before running make install. That is on *some* packages, I have to do make install; checkinstall; make uninstall, for the RPM to be build. I dont have a specific app in mind, so I can't post the error, just noted that this is sometimes the case. /Sylvester Hi It turned out that this -tar file was not meant to be installed at all. I was shell script that started a java thing. -- - Med venlig hilsen/Best regards Verner Kjærsgaard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] LVM as root revert
Hi Everybody, I create an LVM volume and mounted it as /, but I would like to revert it to it's original partition, I tried it from reverting from the LVM gui, but it couldn't do it because / is mounted, is there any way to do this, I am thinking safe mode or starting from disk, but I am not sure how to do the reversion, any advice? Thanks J -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] SuSe 10.2/64 4Gb memory problem
Per Jessen skrev: Bas hendriks wrote: I am building a vmware server with SuSe10.2/64 as host os. The problem is that only 2 Gb ram is available in SuSe, while 4 Gb is installed. I think you need to use a kernel with support for 4Gb memory. Either rebuild yourself, or find a suitable opensuse kernel. (maybe a -bigsmp version). /Per Jessen, Zürich Works perfectly fine for my 4 and 8 GB memory machines. Just plug in the DVD and install, it chooses the right kernel automatically. In my case on the 4GB box, uname -r 2.6.16.27-0.9-smp -- Anders Norrbring Norrbring Consulting -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] udev problem
Joe Morris Is there a reason you do not just add that user to the video group? While I agree this is a workable solution to the problem at hand. I am more interested in why udev no longer responds to changes made to device permissions through rules.d -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Yast - to upgrade Distribution ?
On Thursday 15 March 2007 07:56:46 am Philippe Andersson wrote: Richard Bos wrote: On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 12:11:46PM +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote: The Wednesday 2007-03-14 at 08:57 -0400, Abstract wrote: I upgraded from 9.3 to 10.2, via the install dvd. And me too :) I'm planning to do just that real soon now on several boxen (laptop, desktop, servers, 32bit, 64bit), some of them mission critical (like my laptop ;-) ). Any snag I have to watch for ? Any recommendation (outside of the usual make a backup/mondoarchive first) ? Ph. A. Watch out for the kernel 2.6.18.8-0.1 update either during or post update/upgrade. Known issue is that /boot/grub/menu.lst is being changed in ways that are not always user friendly. I advise making backups of /boot/grub/menu.lst to /etc/or /home/some-user before doing the kernel 2.6.18.8-0.1 update. Stan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Determine Web Server type
Hi all, Is there a way to determine what Web Server (Apache or IIS) is running a particular website? It should be something like the host command. I think I came across such a command some time ago. :-) Al -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Yast - to upgrade Distribution ?
S Glasoe wrote: Watch out for the kernel 2.6.18.8-0.1 update either during or post update/upgrade. Known issue is that /boot/grub/menu.lst is being changed in ways that are not always user friendly. I advise making backups of /boot/grub/menu.lst to /etc/or /home/some-user before doing the kernel 2.6.18.8-0.1 update. S, it wasn't just me, then ;-) Already noticed that on a server at home (fresh install). Thanks for the tip, I'll keep it in mind. Ph. A. -- *Philippe Andersson* Unix System Administrator IBA Particle Therapy | Tel: +32-10-475.983 Fax: +32-10-487.707 eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.iba-worldwide.com The contents of this e-mail message and any attachments are intended solely for the recipient (s) named above. This communication is intended to be and to remain confidential and may be protected by intellectual property rights. Any use of the information contained herein (including but not limited to, total or partial reproduction, communication or distribution of any form) by persons other than the designated recipient(s) is prohibited. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Ion Beam Applications does not accept liability for any such errors. Thank you for your cooperation. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [opensuse] Yast - to upgrade Distribution ?
S Glasoe wrote: Watch out for the kernel 2.6.18.8-0.1 update either during or post update/upgrade. Known issue is that /boot/grub/menu.lst is being changed in ways that are not always user friendly. I advise making backups of /boot/grub/menu.lst to /etc/or /home/some-user before doing the kernel 2.6.18.8-0.1 update. Make sure you follow the advice in the release notes, i.e. Booting Multiple Instances of openSUSE on One System If multiple instances of openSUSE 10.2 are installed on one machine and the instance in partition 2 is booted from the GRUB in partition 1, the entry in menu.lst in partition 1 for partition 2 should contain the entry: kernel /boot/vmlinuz initrd /boot/initrd instead of kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.18.2-23-default initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.18.2-23-default With this change, it is safe to update the kernel in partition 2 and the system can still be booted from partition 1. I suspect that is the problem you had Stan. The update worked flawlessly here. -- Joe Morris Registered Linux user 231871 running openSUSE 10.2 x86_64 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Determine Web Server type
On Thu March 15 2007 09:52, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way to determine what Web Server (Apache or IIS) is running a particular website? It should be something like the host command. I think I came across such a command some time ago. I don't know of a commandline solution, but this is what I use: http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph hth regards, Carl -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] suse 10.1 and sata II vt8251
SuSE 10.1 do not recognize/support this controller vt8251(...from scratch..) and no HDD is available to begin install. I switch to 10.2 and ok. thanks. On Wednesday 14 March 2007 23:43, Bob S wrote: On Wednesday 14 March 2007 14:33, anckerDJ wrote: How to install suse 10.1 on sata II vt8251? Any idea? thanks. Um. Put the disk in the drive and let it do it's thing? Seriously, it would help a lot if you described the problem you are having. There are lots of SuSE versions running on Sata 2 out here. Bob S -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] NVidia driver and acpi on 10.2
On Mar 14, 07 08:49:10 -0700, Mike Noble wrote: Tried that, did not help. Screen goes blank and all I can do is reset. MB: Gigabyte GA-K8NSC-939 Video: EVGA Nvidia 6200 LE In that case, please file a bug report, so we can ask NVidia to work on that. The 6200 is certainly new enough to be supported by the current driver (no need to look for legacy hardware drivers). Matthias -- Matthias Hopf [EMAIL PROTECTED] ____ __ Maxfeldstr. 5 / 90409 Nuernberg (_ | | (_ |__ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone +49-911-74053-715 __) |_| __) |__ R D www.mshopf.de -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] udev problem
On Mar 14, 07 11:39:44 -0400, M. Todd Smith wrote: Which makes sense because my LDAP user is not part of the video group and the perms on nvidiactl look like crw-rw root video There's a file /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia, which normally reads options nvidia NVreg_DeviceFileUID=0 NVreg_DeviceFileGID=33 NVreg_DeviceFileMode=0660 AFAIR changing this to 0666 still works on 10.2 and factory. To give me the permissions I would like these device nodes created with upon bootup (again this is all under the assumption that udev is doing something). Furthermore I've gone ahead and turned on the debug mode for udev. After a reboot searching through /var/log/ messages brings up nothing regarding /dev/nvidia* and the permissions still remain 0660 instead of 0666. udev creates the device nodes only when the kernel module is loaded. The kernel module is loaded by the driver. It used to be the other way round (kernel module is loaded when the device file is accessed). HTH Matthias -- Matthias Hopf [EMAIL PROTECTED] ____ __ Maxfeldstr. 5 / 90409 Nuernberg (_ | | (_ |__ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone +49-911-74053-715 __) |_| __) |__ R D www.mshopf.de -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] mod_perl in OpenSuse 10.2
Richard: Thanks! I logged in and voted for the bug and added a comment. It just seems that all the parts and pieces are installed but it doesn't work. Thanks again! M- On 3/15/07, Richard Bos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 09:42:49PM -0700, Bruce Ferrell wrote: Michael Folsom wrote: Folks: New to mod_perl and am having trouble getting mod_perl going on OpenSuse 10.2. Have a system with apache installed and working and used yast to install mod_perl from the install DVD. It created the directory /srv/www/perl-lib and in /etc/apache2 I find mod_perl-startup.pl and in /etc/apache2/conf.d I find mod_perl.conf. Problem is when I dropped the file rock.pl (see below) in /srv/www/perl-lib it doesn't run - meaning I go to http://server_name/perl-lib/rock.pl in a browser and get an Object not found!. Permissions on rock.pl: -rwxr-xr-x 1 nobody nobody 85 2007-03-14 21:56 rock.pl ... rock.pl #!/usr/bin/perl print Content-type: text/plain\n\n; print mod_perl 2.0 rocks!\n; Suggestions appreciated! Michael what do the apache logs tell you? Is it similar to this: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=245173 -- Richard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] udev problem
On Mar 15, 07 07:40:01 +0800, Joe Morris (NTM) wrote: Changing these permission via root and restarting the application as the user makes things peachy .. until they reboot and the perms are reset to these defaults. Is there a reason you do not just add that user to the video group? In a lot of environments you just cannot change the groups a user belongs to due to policy reasons. Matthias -- Matthias Hopf [EMAIL PROTECTED] ____ __ Maxfeldstr. 5 / 90409 Nuernberg (_ | | (_ |__ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone +49-911-74053-715 __) |_| __) |__ R D www.mshopf.de -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Why I don't upgrade often
On Thursday 15 March 2007 04:36, James Knott wrote: Kai Ponte wrote: Those server guys have one odd sense of humor. I have often referred to users as mere mortals. ;-) Or the classic: Lusers. RRS -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] LVM as root revert
Hi. El Jueves, 15 de Marzo de 2007, Jose escribió: Hi Everybody, I create an LVM volume and mounted it as /, but I would like to revert it to it's original partition, I tried it from reverting from the LVM gui, but it couldn't do it because / is mounted, is there any way to do this, I am thinking safe mode or starting from disk, but I am not sure how to do the reversion, any advice? I do't know how to solve this, but is a good practice to not mount / in LVM, put / on a ext3 partition and then mount /var, /usr /home /srv or whatever you need on LVM, but don't mount /, it could give you problems with corrupt LVM images -- Un Saludo. Carlos Lorenzo Matés pgplL36k0QWvC.pgp Description: PGP signature
[opensuse] Novell's Virtual Server Deployment Solution [Was: VMware]
On 3/15/07, John Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 14 March 2007, Kai Ponte wrote: This particulary when compared to a series of $20K servers that can also run some form of virtualization for lesser-demand apps. 20K? Try 1/10th of that. I'm running a low end Dell Poweredge server at my office that does all the file/print/mail management tasks you would expect of Suse for a network of 20 users. And it runs windows virtual machine in a complete sandbox with one port nat-ed to the wooly interenet with Vmware Server. The windows machine is to demo software to customers. Its rock solid. I didn't pay anywhere near 20k. I suspect Kai is talking about a dynamic data-center concept. You need to have all of your virtual server images stored on a shared storage (typically SAN -based) with access from all the managed real servers. That class of solution is definitely in the $20K+ range at this point at least from HP. (That includes SAN arrays, FC switches, Blade Enclosures, and the Blade servers) Then you need a virtual server manager that will deploy the virtual server images on demand to the physical servers that have unallocated resources. You know, the kind of thing Novell / MS just announced under their contract of 6 months ago. (ducking and covering). Seriously, I was surprised that nobody commented on that announcement on this list. It definitely the sort of thing that is targeted at data center environments and its great it my mind to see Novell participating in the development. It just was not clear to me if a pure SUSE/XEN environment will be able use pure GPL management code or if you will have to buy the overall manager from MS and Novell will just be developing and GPLing the hooks to let SUSE/XEN participate. Does anyone on this list know? Greg -- Greg Freemyer The Norcross Group Forensics for the 21st Century -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Checkinstall fails before running make install (Was: install a tar file?)
Sylvester, On Thursday 15 March 2007 05:54, Sylvester Lykkehus wrote: ... As a side note, I often find checkinstall failing, before running make install. That is on *some* packages, I have to do make install; checkinstall; make uninstall, for the RPM to be build. Interesting. I've had checkinstall fail, but it never occurred to me to try a make install first. I'd still be reluctant to do so, but I'll keep this in mind the next time a virgin checkinstall doesn't work. I dont have a specific app in mind, so I can't post the error, just noted that this is sometimes the case. /Sylvester Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] LVM as root revert
I create an LVM volume and mounted it as /, but I would like to revert it to it's original partition, I tried it from reverting from the LVM gui, but it couldn't do it because / is mounted, is there any way to do this, I am thinking safe mode or starting from disk, but I am not sure how to do the reversion, any advice? I do't know how to solve this, but is a good practice to not mount / in LVM, Nah, all our systems have an LVM /. Works just fine. Make a 100-250Mb /boot and LVM absolutely everything else. I've had filesystems go fritz but I've never had LVM bomb out, and LVM is your friend for recovering or changing systems. put / on a ext3 partition and then mount /var, /usr /home /srv or whatever you need on LVM, but don't mount /, it could give you problems with corrupt LVM images And a corrupt /usr, /var, and /srv is fine? --- Adam Tauno Williams Consultant - http://www.whitemiceconsulting.com Developer - http://www.opengroupware.org/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] [SLE] Slow transfers from Linux Server
On Thursday 15 March 2007 06:48, John Andersen wrote: On Wednesday 14 March 2007, Anders Johansson wrote: Just in case you're still interested, I'm doing this now, and I'm getting a constant data rate of over 10MB/s (in real data, not bits over the wire). This means a 100MB file transfers in 9 seconds, or 1024MB in 1 minute 34 seconds. All using scp I don't doubt that Anders, that performance is quite acceptable. My point was, that without testing a samba or nfs transfer you have no way of judging the load imposed by scp. There is a substantial CPU load, to be sure. My 2GHz Celeron was at ~75% throughout the transfer. A slower CPU would have spiked, causing a slowdown in the transfer The OP did those tests, and his 35minute transfer with ssh dropped to 5 minutes. He suspects a faulty ssh client, as do I, because that much difference it way out of line with what I would expect. Could be. But I'd be interested in knowing what hardware is involved, and what the system load looked like during the transfer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Determine Web Server type
On Thu, 2007-03-15 at 10:02 -0400, Carl Hartung wrote: http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph hth regards, Carl Yes, it helps, thanx. Curiously I get IIS on Linux ?? OS Web Server Last changed Linux Microsoft-IIS/6.0 24-Feb-2007 Linux Microsoft-IIS/6.0 17-Dec-2006 Linux Microsoft-IIS/6.0 6-Nov-2006 Linux Microsoft-IIS/6.0 28-Aug-2006 Linux Microsoft-IIS/6.0 13-Jun-2006 Linux Microsoft-IIS/6.0 24-Apr-2006 Linux Microsoft-IIS/5.0 13-Mar-2006 Linux Microsoft-IIS/5.0 28-May-2005 Windows 2000 Microsoft-IIS/5.0 23-Feb-2005 Windows 2000 Microsoft-IIS/5.0 20-Jul-2004 :-/ Al -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] VMware
On Wednesday 14 March 2007 09:56:48 pm John Andersen wrote: On Wednesday 14 March 2007, Kai Ponte wrote: This particulary when compared to a series of $20K servers that can also run some form of virtualization for lesser-demand apps. 20K? Try 1/10th of that. Heh. I just looked. Last summer we bought 6 HP ML570 dual processor servers at around $8K each and 12 ML580 quad processor servers at $34,000 each. Load the servers with 4 dual core xeon processors and 32 gigs of ram, and you up the costs from the base $5,000 price. We're going to move to 64-bit servers the next go around. Oh, and by the way - I was just looking at the site. I have the choice between Windows Operating Systems, Novell SuSE Linux operating systems*, Red Hat Operating Systems and VMWare. *SUSE is spelled SuSE on the HP site. I'm running a low end Dell Poweredge server at my office that does all the file/print/mail management tasks you would expect of Suse for a network of 20 users. Well, for that low-end processing I can see a low end machine. Typically when I think of servers these days I'm imagining something that is handling image rendering, database processing, transaction queuing and other higher end tasks. Keep in mind these servers are for one application that serves roughly 4,000 users at any given time. Considering we take in $160M a year through the system, I think the prices are justified. :P -- kai Free Compean and Ramos http://www.grassfire.org/142/petition.asp http://www.perfectreign.com/?q=node/46 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] setting up a raid (Suse 10.0)
On Thursday 15 March 2007 07:57, James D. Parra wrote: I have two identical drives, mirrored as /dev/md0 One drive is a system drive and I'd like to mirror it. Which is it? Perhaps you should post your fstab and raidtab.. I am unable to carve out mount points on it or put a swap partition on it. Isn't mirroring a swap partition a bad idea, or at the least wasteful? Why not create a (or two) swap partitions on the disks, then create the RAID partitions on the remaining space? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Re: Novell's Virtual Server Deployment Solution [Was: VMware]
Top posting the quote the below is talking about. No other edits. From Page 5 of http://www.moreinterop.com/tca-roadmap.pdf that got so disparaged on this list. Novell Data Center Management Solutions The brain of Novell data center management is Novell ZENworks(r) Orchestrator. It allows for policy-based automation across heterogeneous environments. ZENworks Orchestrator takes a heuristic approach, continually learning from previous events and resource demands. Virtual machine management is critical to efficiently implementing virtualization in the data center and achieving a solid return on investment. Novell ZENworks Virtual Machine Management provides the following heterogeneous virtual machine management capabilities: • Provides lifecycle management of VMware*, Xen and Microsoft virtual machines • Discovers servers for virtual machine commissioning • Discovers offline and online virtual machines • Provides deployment, redeployment and rollback of virtual machines • Manages physical, virtual and storage compute nodes • Features cluster-aware virtualization • Includes policy-based dynamic workload deployment On 3/15/07, Greg Freemyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/15/07, John Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 14 March 2007, Kai Ponte wrote: This particulary when compared to a series of $20K servers that can also run some form of virtualization for lesser-demand apps. 20K? Try 1/10th of that. I'm running a low end Dell Poweredge server at my office that does all the file/print/mail management tasks you would expect of Suse for a network of 20 users. And it runs windows virtual machine in a complete sandbox with one port nat-ed to the wooly interenet with Vmware Server. The windows machine is to demo software to customers. Its rock solid. I didn't pay anywhere near 20k. I suspect Kai is talking about a dynamic data-center concept. You need to have all of your virtual server images stored on a shared storage (typically SAN -based) with access from all the managed real servers. That class of solution is definitely in the $20K+ range at this point at least from HP. (That includes SAN arrays, FC switches, Blade Enclosures, and the Blade servers) Then you need a virtual server manager that will deploy the virtual server images on demand to the physical servers that have unallocated resources. You know, the kind of thing Novell / MS just announced under their contract of 6 months ago. (ducking and covering). Seriously, I was surprised that nobody commented on that announcement on this list. It definitely the sort of thing that is targeted at data center environments and its great it my mind to see Novell participating in the development. It just was not clear to me if a pure SUSE/XEN environment will be able use pure GPL management code or if you will have to buy the overall manager from MS and Novell will just be developing and GPLing the hooks to let SUSE/XEN participate. Does anyone on this list know? Greg -- Greg Freemyer The Norcross Group Forensics for the 21st Century -- Greg Freemyer The Norcross Group Forensics for the 21st Century -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Determine Web Server type
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Is there a way to determine what Web Server (Apache or IIS) is running a particular website? It should be something like the host command. I think I came across such a command some time ago wget -S http://www.microsoft.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] usb flashdisk error
before i've edited fstab then myFlashdisk don't mount correctly. recently i've got some advice from irc for fixing the fstab so the flashdisk can mount automaticaly. the problem is it cant mount automaticaly, but nothing to do. i can't copy or write on it... there is error message input/output error first time i think that my flashdisk is out of order... but when i try to mount on other system 10.2, debian, windows. it works correctly. br, tambun my system is suse 10.0 for consideration this is my fstab configuration /dev/sda2/reiserfs acl,user_xattr 1 1 /dev/sda5/homeext3 acl,user_xattr 1 2 /dev/sda6/var ext3 acl,user_xattr 1 2 /dev/sda3swap swap defaults 0 0 proc /procproc defaults 0 0 sysfs/sys sysfs noauto 0 0 usbfs/proc/bus/usbusbfs noauto 0 0 devpts /dev/pts devpts mode=0620,gid=5 0 0 /dev/sda7/dataext3 acl,user_xattr 1 2 /dev/cdrecorder /media/cdrecordersubfs noauto,fs=cdfss,ro,procuid,nosuid,nodev,exec,iocharset=utf8 0 0 /dev/fd0 /media/floppysubfs noauto,fs=floppyfss,procuid,nodev,nosuid,sync 0 0 none /subdomain subdomainfs noauto 0 0 /dev/hdd2/share ext3 /dev/hdd1/lfs ext3 user,acl,user_xattr 1 2 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [opensuse] setting up a raid (Suse 10.0)
-Original Message- From: Wade Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 8:23 AM To: opensuse@opensuse.org Subject: Re: [opensuse] setting up a raid (Suse 10.0) On Thursday 15 March 2007 07:57, James D. Parra wrote: I have two identical drives, mirrored as /dev/md0 One drive is a system drive and I'd like to mirror it. Which is it? Perhaps you should post your fstab and raidtab.. I am unable to carve out mount points on it or put a swap partition on it. Isn't mirroring a swap partition a bad idea, or at the least wasteful? Why not create a (or two) swap partitions on the disks, then create the RAID partitions on the remaining space? This is a fresh install. I don't really want to mirror the swap partition, just get the system mirrored. During the install, after many different attempts to get the system to boot from the hard disk, I have now set up /dev/md0 with 90GB and mounted as /var, however after the loading of packages is complete and the system reboots, the system won't boot from the hard drive. The mount point /boot is on /dev/sda1. Thank you, ~James -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] What I Want (was Why I don't upgrade often)
On Wednesday 14 March 2007 22:59, you wrote: Fred, Give Zenwalk a look/try! If you want KDE and other things, ZW would be the choice, but if you just want a speedy fast Linux, take a stab at Vector! Might save you a lot of time rather than dealing with FC6. regards, Lee I see you are earthlink also. Mind if I ask what part of the country? I'm on the east coast, NC. Lee: What I want is a system that has a web browser that can display the streaming videos included on many websites, including the different news services like Reuters, ABC, CNN, etc at Yahoo.com and the trailers at film.com. Basically the same functionality that a Windoes user would have on the same websites. In my opinion, this is critically important to get a Windows user to want to swap to Linux. After all, why make the change if you lose features? Office apps are not an issue (due to OO), games aren't either because of wine and parallels (or vmware). Not needing antivirus or malware software won't do the trick, nor will the lower price of the OS. No, the one issue that breaks the bank is full-featured web browsing. If that can be made to work correctly then there is really no need whatsoever to retain Windows, other than maybe a virtual machine for the reasons mentioned above. My goal is to be able to sever the Windows umbilical that so many people are attached to. I want the stereotypical blonde to be able to turn on the computer and run it just as easily as she does Windows. I cannot do that with the tools I have now. As for my location, it's about 50 miles out of Dallas, TX. Fred -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Why I don't upgrade often
Kai, On Thursday 15 March 2007 09:03, Kai Ponte wrote: On Wednesday 14 March 2007 09:29:34 pm Randall R Schulz wrote: On Wednesday 14 March 2007 20:56, Kai Ponte wrote: ... ...and don't forget that WinNT (XP/Vista/2003) is not preemptive multitasking either. At least not at the kernel level like Linux 2.6+ is. You really ought to check your facts. You'll give software managers a bad name... Huh? Kernel 2.6+ has preemptive multitasking at the kernel level - a.k.a. a preemptable kernel. WinNT does not. I don't know where you got this idea, but it's flatly false. If you have access to the IEEE digital library, you can retrieve and read this article: http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/iel4/2/15590/00722284.pdf?arnumber=722284. You will see that process and thread control is located in kernel space and is interrupt-driven. To wit: · The process and thread manager creates and terminates processes and threads. The underlying support for processes and threads is implemented in the Windows NT kernel; the executive adds additional semantics and functions to these lower-level objects. ... Kernel The kernel performs the most fundamental operations in Windows NT, determining how the OS uses the processor or processors and ensuring that they are used prudently. It is the lowest layer in NTOSKRNL.EXE. These are the primary functions the kernel provides · Thread scheduling and dispatching. · Trap handling and exception dispatching. · Interrupt handling and dispatching. · Multiprocessor synchronization. It does do user-level preemptive multitasking but not kernel level. Perhaps you're drawing some real distinction here, but I'm not sure what it is. Never had it, supposedly will sometime soon. Of course, since the linux and windows kernels are fairly similar in design I'm sure Windows will borrow whatever was learned from Linux's implementation and then sue Novell for patent violations. (And you thought i was a pointy-haired guy who reboots his laptop by holding it upside down and shaking.) I was just trying to kill some processes on a Win2003 system today and had to wait for the kernel to finish some tasks before it would die. That can happen on Linux, too. Try to kill a process in a 'D' wait state. It's not possible. Extended duration of a D wait does imply a bug (usually in a disk or file system driver), but it happens. Ooh, that's just nasty. And if the distinction you suggest betwen user-level and kernel multitasking is what I think it is, this shows that either both kernels have this form of multitasking or both do not. -- kai Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Determine Web Server type
On Thu, 2007-03-15 at 19:35 +0400, alex wrote: wget -S http://www.microsoft.com Great, wget -S --spider http://www.xyz.abc; is what I was looking for. :-) Al -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] What I Want (was Why I don't upgrade often)
On 3/15/07, Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I want is a system that has a web browser that can display the streaming videos included on many websites, including the different news services like Reuters, ABC, CNN, etc at Yahoo.com and the trailers at film.com. Basically the same functionality that a Windoes user would have on the same websites. Just add packmans repository, then install: mplayer and mplayer-plugin or vls and vls plugin win32codecs (to add support for proprietary codecs) then flash (there is 9.0 for linux already) Whatever distro you choose, you will end up doing something similar, i.e. using external repositories (besides ubunty, which has these programs in their multiverse, but it has its quirks as well), and installing win32codes and the players. Some videos will not play, whichever distro you choose, as they use some bad/proprietary codecs. But I find the above solution to solve 99% of the problems. -- Svetoslav Milenov (Sunny) Even the most advanced equipment in the hands of the ignorant is just a pile of scrap. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Why I don't upgrade often
On Wednesday 14 March 2007 09:29:34 pm Randall R Schulz wrote: On Wednesday 14 March 2007 20:56, Kai Ponte wrote: ... ...and don't forget that WinNT (XP/Vista/2003) is not preemptive multitasking either. At least not at the kernel level like Linux 2.6+ is. You really ought to check your facts. You'll give software managers a bad name... Huh? Kernel 2.6+ has preemptive multitasking at the kernel level - a.k.a. a preemptable kernel. WinNT does not. It does do user-level preemptive multitasking but not kernel level. Never had it, supposedly will sometime soon. Of course, since the linux and windows kernels are fairly similar in design I'm sure Windows will borrow whatever was learned from Linux's implementation and then sue Novell for patent violations. (And you thought i was a pointy-haired guy who reboots his laptop by holding it upside down and shaking.) I was just trying to kill some processes on a Win2003 system today and had to wait for the kernel to finish some tasks before it would die. That can happen on Linux, too. Try to kill a process in a 'D' wait state. It's not possible. Extended duration of a D wait does imply a bug (usually in a disk or file system driver), but it happens. Ooh, that's just nasty. -- kai Free Compean and Ramos http://www.grassfire.org/142/petition.asp http://www.perfectreign.com/?q=node/46 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] NVidia driver and acpi on 10.2
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matthias Hopf schrieb: On Mar 14, 07 08:49:10 -0700, Mike Noble wrote: Tried that, did not help. Screen goes blank and all I can do is reset. MB: Gigabyte GA-K8NSC-939 Video: EVGA Nvidia 6200 LE In that case, please file a bug report, so we can ask NVidia to work on that. The 6200 is certainly new enough to be supported by the current driver (no need to look for legacy hardware drivers). And it is. Works just fine here on an Asus A8N5X Board, though fails on an Asus M2V miserably (see original post). Matthias Regards, Chris - -- http://rauchs-home.de - home of yet another suse repository ;) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFF+Wy1ayhvFxrDZlkRAi8IAJ0UvfiAAQjFNlYZy60HDq00VkJ1GACfQrtp 9BuI0ecaQSTnJdbnmGiu6Zc= =TIGK -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Determine Web Server type
On Thu March 15 2007 11:35, alex wrote: wget -S Thanks, Alex, *much* more convenient! Carl -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] udev problem
MH wrote: There's a file /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia, which normally reads options nvidia NVreg_DeviceFileUID=0 NVreg_DeviceFileGID=33 NVreg_DeviceFileMode=0660 AFAIR changing this to 0666 still works on 10.2 and factory. This works, many thanks :) MH wrote: udev creates the device nodes only when the kernel module is loaded. The kernel module is loaded by the driver. It used to be the other way round (kernel module is loaded when the device file is accessed). HTH Matthias Interesting .. looks like I have some reading to do. Cheers Todd Smtih -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] What I Want (was Why I don't upgrade often)
On Thursday 15 March 2007 11:53, Sunny wrote: On 3/15/07, Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I want is a system that has a web browser that can display the streaming videos included on many websites, including the different news services like Reuters, ABC, CNN, etc at Yahoo.com and the trailers at film.com. Basically the same functionality that a Windoes user would have on the same websites. Just add packmans repository, then install: mplayer and mplayer-plugin or vls and vls plugin win32codecs (to add support for proprietary codecs) then flash (there is 9.0 for linux already) If it were that simple, I would not be bitching. Some videos will not play, whichever distro you choose, as they use some bad/proprietary codecs. That is my point. They run with Windows and should also with Linux. -- Svetoslav Milenov (Sunny) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] mod_perl in OpenSuse 10.2
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007, Michael Folsom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:- Folks: New to mod_perl and am having trouble getting mod_perl going on OpenSuse 10.2. Have a system with apache installed and working and used yast to install mod_perl from the install DVD. It created the directory /srv/www/perl-lib and in /etc/apache2 I find mod_perl-startup.pl and in /etc/apache2/conf.d I find mod_perl.conf. Problem is when I dropped the file rock.pl (see below) in /srv/www/perl-lib it doesn't run - meaning I go to http://server_name/perl-lib/rock.pl in a browser and get an Object not found!. Not surprising really. If you look at mod_perl.conf, you'll find the first few lines are: Directory /srv/www/perl-lib AllowOverride None Options None Order allow,deny Deny from all /Directory Meaning that apache will refuse to show any files in there. Permissions on rock.pl: -rwxr-xr-x 1 nobody nobody 85 2007-03-14 21:56 rock.pl ... rock.pl #!/usr/bin/perl print Content-type: text/plain\n\n; print mod_perl 2.0 rocks!\n; Suggestions appreciated! Copy it into /cgi-bin/ ? It'll work from there: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ cat /srv/www/cgi-bin/test.pl #!/usr/bin/perl print Content-type: text/plain\n\n; print mod_perl 2.0 rocks!\n; [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ telnet localhost 80 Trying 127.0.0.1... Connected to localhost. Escape character is '^]'. GET /cgi-bin/test.pl HTTP/1.0 HTTP/1.1 200 OK Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:42:46 GMT Server: Apache/2.2.3 (Linux/SUSE) Content-Length: 20 Connection: close Content-Type: text/plain mod_perl 2.0 rocks! Connection closed by foreign host. Regards, David Bolt -- Member of Team Acorn checking nodes at 50 Mnodes/s: http://www.distributed.net/ RISCOS 3.11 | SUSE 10.0 32bit | SUSE 10.1 32bit | openSUSE 10.2 32bit RISCOS 3.6 | SUSE 10.0 64bit | SUSE 10.1 64bit | openSUSE 10.2 64bit TOS 4.02| SUSE 9.3 32bit | | openSUSE 10.3a1 32bit -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] What I Want (was Why I don't upgrade often)
On 3/15/07, Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If it were that simple, I would not be bitching. I did not follow the thread from the beginning, so what is the problem? That is my point. They run with Windows and should also with Linux. They _are_ proprietary. Bitch to their authors, and why they do not provide players for linux. -- Svetoslav Milenov (Sunny) Even the most advanced equipment in the hands of the ignorant is just a pile of scrap. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Why I don't upgrade often
On Thursday 15 March 2007, Hartmut Meyer wrote: Just for the sake of it, let's have a look at the most recent recommended update as announced on the suse-security-announce mailing list on the 6th of March: --- snip - SUSE Security Announcement Package: MozillaFirefox,seamonkey Yet another User space application having NOTHING WHAT SO EVER to do with running Suse 9.0 or 10.2 or even 7.3 if you were so inclined. -- _ John Andersen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Getting YaST to update 3rd party apps
Is there a way to get YaST to list available updates to third party programs like it does for every other program? It is slightly annoying to run the online update in YaST and it will tell me that there is no updates, then I go into Package All Packages Update if Newer Version is Available and it will have several updates listed. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] setting up a raid (Suse 10.0)
On Thursday 15 March 2007, James D. Parra wrote: Isn't mirroring a swap partition a bad idea, or at the least wasteful? Mirroring is not too bad for swap. When the system needs to read swap the raid drivers will read from which ever disk is not busy, so it might be faster than non-raid, but only slightly so. A swap on raid5 is quite a bit slower. -- _ John Andersen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Microphone fixed on laptop
Robert Lewis wrote: drek wrote: Robert Lewis wrote: I have very good news. Hopefully this may help others. For the last 3-months or so my Microphone on my HP5237 laptop has not worked. I actually purchased a USB microphone which did work in the mean time. Now I have it worked. All I did was d/l and compile and install the latest ALSA drivers. http://www.alsa-project.org/ 1.0.14rc3 Cheers, Bob It can help for me. My microphone also doesn't work (Acer Aspire 5102); the rest of the sound works, including headphone. But just before I compile and install the latest ALSA drivers, I want to ask you (or someone else) some suse basics: - do I have to deinstall alsa first (via yast)? - if the result doesn't work, how do I uninstall it? does the install command automatically make a log? Thanks, André I did not uninstall the original. I just did: Configure make make install (as root on this one) The install command outputs to standard out everything it is doing. You could always use the tee command to capture the output Two benefits were observed. 1) output volume on speakers was louder 2) Microphone worked I was very happy after trying this and failing with earlier versions of alsa. I compiled and installed alsa-driver, alsa-lib and alsa-utils. I followed the recipe on the alsa website. When rebooting, my sound errormessages at boot were gone! But starting up firefox or skype in KDE gave me an error: /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libasound.so.2: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64 skype: error while loading shared libraries: libasound.so.2: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64 I think this is a problem with 32-bit programs using 64-bit sounddrivers? I'm using openSUSE 10.2 64bit. I do get sound out of my speakers and headphone, but the microphone still isn't working... :-( I now have in KMix 2 more tabs (input and switches) and a lot of new sliders. I tried some of the microphone slides, but none worked. I will try again tonight. Also I cannot use the Fn-key to change the volume (it moves the wrong slider). But I will try that also tonight. Regards, André -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: Novell's Virtual Server Deployment Solution [Was: VMware]
On Thursday 15 March 2007, Greg Freemyer wrote: Novell Data Center Management Solutions The brain of Novell data center management is Novell ZENworks(r) Rest of post missed due to the commotion of every one running screaming from the room. -- _ John Andersen pgp1dDluCjSat.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse] mod_perl in OpenSuse 10.2
David: Thanks! You are right - it works from the cgi-bin directory. Now why oh why did they ship the mod_perl.conf file that way when they had created the directory /srv/www/perl-lib to put perl scripts in? The next question is - how do you fix the file to get it to work? Contents of the default mod_perl.conf in OpenSuse 10.2 below - mod_perl.conf... Directory /srv/www/perl-lib AllowOverride None Options None Order allow,deny Deny from all /Directory IfModule mod_perl.c PerlRequire /etc/apache2/mod_perl-startup.pl ScriptAlias /perl/ /srv/www/cgi-bin/ Location /perl/ # mod_perl mode SetHandler perl-script PerlResponseHandler ModPerl::Registry PerlOptions +ParseHeaders Options +ExecCGI /Location ScriptAlias /cgi-perl/ /srv/www/cgi-bin/ Location /cgi-perl # perl cgi mode SetHandler perl-script PerlResponseHandler ModPerl::PerlRun PerlOptions +ParseHeaders Options +ExecCGI /Location # The /cgi-bin/ ScriptAlias is already set up in httpd.conf /IfModule # vim: ft=apache . Thanks! Michael On 3/15/07, David Bolt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 14 Mar 2007, Michael Folsom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:- Folks: New to mod_perl and am having trouble getting mod_perl going on OpenSuse 10.2. Have a system with apache installed and working and used yast to install mod_perl from the install DVD. It created the directory /srv/www/perl-lib and in /etc/apache2 I find mod_perl-startup.pl and in /etc/apache2/conf.d I find mod_perl.conf. Problem is when I dropped the file rock.pl (see below) in /srv/www/perl-lib it doesn't run - meaning I go to http://server_name/perl-lib/rock.pl in a browser and get an Object not found!. Not surprising really. If you look at mod_perl.conf, you'll find the first few lines are: Directory /srv/www/perl-lib AllowOverride None Options None Order allow,deny Deny from all /Directory Meaning that apache will refuse to show any files in there. Permissions on rock.pl: -rwxr-xr-x 1 nobody nobody 85 2007-03-14 21:56 rock.pl ... rock.pl #!/usr/bin/perl print Content-type: text/plain\n\n; print mod_perl 2.0 rocks!\n; Suggestions appreciated! Copy it into /cgi-bin/ ? It'll work from there: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ cat /srv/www/cgi-bin/test.pl #!/usr/bin/perl print Content-type: text/plain\n\n; print mod_perl 2.0 rocks!\n; [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ telnet localhost 80 Trying 127.0.0.1... Connected to localhost. Escape character is '^]'. GET /cgi-bin/test.pl HTTP/1.0 HTTP/1.1 200 OK Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:42:46 GMT Server: Apache/2.2.3 (Linux/SUSE) Content-Length: 20 Connection: close Content-Type: text/plain mod_perl 2.0 rocks! Connection closed by foreign host. Regards, David Bolt -- Member of Team Acorn checking nodes at 50 Mnodes/s: http://www.distributed.net/ RISCOS 3.11 | SUSE 10.0 32bit | SUSE 10.1 32bit | openSUSE 10.2 32bit RISCOS 3.6 | SUSE 10.0 64bit | SUSE 10.1 64bit | openSUSE 10.2 64bit TOS 4.02| SUSE 9.3 32bit | | openSUSE 10.3a1 32bit -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Getting YaST to update 3rd party apps
On Thu 15 Mar 2007 18:44, Adam Jimerson wrote: Is there a way to get YaST to list available updates to third party programs like it does for every other program? - maybe, it is good to use Yast for the basics smart for the goodies :) . friendly greetings -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Determine Web Server type
On Thursday 15 March 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2007-03-15 at 10:02 -0400, Carl Hartung wrote: http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph hth regards, Carl Yes, it helps, thanx. Curiously I get IIS on Linux ?? OS Web Server Last changed Linux Microsoft-IIS/6.0 24-Feb-2007 Linux Microsoft-IIS/6.0 17-Dec-2006 Linux Microsoft-IIS/6.0 6-Nov-2006 Linux Microsoft-IIS/6.0 28-Aug-2006 Linux Microsoft-IIS/6.0 13-Jun-2006 Linux Microsoft-IIS/6.0 24-Apr-2006 Linux Microsoft-IIS/5.0 13-Mar-2006 Linux Microsoft-IIS/5.0 28-May-2005 Windows 2000 Microsoft-IIS/5.0 23-Feb-2005 Windows 2000 Microsoft-IIS/5.0 20-Jul-2004 That is because Microsoft over time will contract with Akami to handle mass bandwidth scaling, server mirroring. Akami can absorb almost any level of attack or usage surge. -- _ John Andersen pgp96TSnX5TGl.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse] RAM problems - Was: Linux on Dell preloads
Ysgrifennodd Randall R Schulz: Yes, indeed, you have bad RAM. It's far from rare. Did you, by any chance, tweak your RAM access parameters in the BIOS for speed purposes? If so, go back into the BIOS and let it use the RAM's SPD (Serial Presence Detect) to determine the appropriate RAM access parameters. If not, you're probably just going to have to replace that RAM. Randall Schulz Sorry to resurrect this thread. Just thought you might like to know that I've just got my machine back from the vendors (who've replaced the memory with not one quibble, fair play). Nothing's crashed yet. So I'm living in hope. If it goes for a week, I'll post an official apology for ever doubting my Linux installation. :) Peter -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] setting up a raid (Suse 10.0)
Am Donnerstag, 15. März 2007 19:47 schrieb John Andersen: On Thursday 15 March 2007, James D. Parra wrote: Isn't mirroring a swap partition a bad idea, or at the least wasteful? Mirroring is not too bad for swap. When the system needs to read swap the raid drivers will read from which ever disk is not busy, so it might be faster than non-raid, but only slightly so. A swap on raid5 is quite a bit slower. Mirroring swap isn't a bad idea also because your running system would break if a disk crashes with swapped data on it. -- David Mayr, http://davey.de openSUSE LINUX, http://opensuse.de -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] RAM problems - Was: Linux on Dell preloads
On Thursday 15 March 2007 12:05, Peter Bradley wrote: ... Sorry to resurrect this thread. Just thought you might like to know that I've just got my machine back from the vendors (who've replaced the memory with not one quibble, fair play). I'm glad it worked out. Nothing's crashed yet. So I'm living in hope. If it goes for a week, I'll post an official apology for ever doubting my Linux installation. Did you run Memtest86+? If not, start it up before you quit for the evening (or go to bed) and let it run until the next day. Naturally, there should be no errors if the RAM is good. :) Peter Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Getting YaST to update 3rd party apps
On 3/15/07, Adam Jimerson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way to get YaST to list available updates to third party programs like it does for every other program? It is slightly annoying to run the online update in YaST and it will tell me that there is no updates, then I go into Package All Packages Update if Newer Version is Available and it will have several updates listed. You are confusing updates with upgrades. Yast Online Update will install all patches which are packages with a high priority, as security fixes bugfixes to the base supported system. Any repository provider can in theory mark packages as packages although currently none do. If you want to upgrade packages to newer versions, potentially moving away from the versions which are supported by suse, which is inadvisable when not required, you can use the update if newer version is available option. The same applies with zypper, zypper up will install security bugfix updates that you should install. If you want to upgrade to potentially unsupported package versions you can zypper up -t package _ Benjamin Weber -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Checkinstall fails before running make install (Was: install a tar file?)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Thursday 2007-03-15 at 13:54 +0100, Sylvester Lykkehus wrote: As a side note, I often find checkinstall failing, before running make install. That is on *some* packages, I have to do make install; checkinstall; make uninstall, for the RPM to be build. I have installed dozens of things via checkinstall, but I never found that particular problem. I dont have a specific app in mind, so I can't post the error, just noted that this is sometimes the case. It would be interesting next time you find that problem you tell us so we can try. What I have noticed is that it fails if the spec file from a previous run remains. It also generates a wrong requires clause on my system. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFF+Z6ItTMYHG2NR9URAk01AJ9TfiGijAo6jpmoDHisAdkOi7BCDACfZ+P4 4wAcvrLMu9NggOtGS1cFifQ= =Fc64 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] lyx GUI fonts
Hello list users: I've installed the new lyx 1.5 beta version (lyx-beta-1.5.0beta1- 1.guru.suse102) on my openSUSE 10.2 system. The program starts fine but the GUI fonts are very small. I tried to change the GTK font sizes in KDE control center but it had no effect. I ran gnome-font-properties and changed font sizes there but it had no effect either. How could I raise the font size in the lyx GUI? Thanks, IG ÚJ LAKÁS? FELÚJÍTÁS? LAKÁSKASSZÁVAL MEGÉRI! lakaskassza.origo.hu http://cthandler.adverticum.net/?cturl=http%3A%2F%2Flakaskassza.origo.hu%2Findex.html%3Flevelelja -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] mod_perl in OpenSuse 10.2
On Thu, 15 Mar 2007, Michael Folsom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:- David: Thanks! You are right - it works from the cgi-bin directory. Now why oh why did they ship the mod_perl.conf file that way when they had created the directory /srv/www/perl-lib to put perl scripts in? No idea. I always install any scripts into /cgi-bin/. It makes things much easier as it just works. The next question is - how do you fix the file to get it to work? If you really want to use it, it just needs a few of changes. Contents of the default mod_perl.conf in OpenSuse 10.2 below - Snip Deny from all Change this to Allow from all snip ScriptAlias /perl/ /srv/www/cgi-bin/ Change this to: ScriptAlias /perl/ /srv/www/perl-lib/ snip ScriptAlias /cgi-perl/ /srv/www/cgi-bin/ And this to: ScriptAlias /cgi-perl/ /srv/www/perl-lib/ Then, after restarting, it should work as you're expecting it to do. Regards, David Bolt -- Member of Team Acorn checking nodes at 50 Mnodes/s: http://www.distributed.net/ RISCOS 3.11 | SUSE 10.0 32bit | SUSE 10.1 32bit | openSUSE 10.2 32bit RISCOS 3.6 | SUSE 10.0 64bit | SUSE 10.1 64bit | openSUSE 10.2 64bit TOS 4.02| SUSE 9.3 32bit | | openSUSE 10.3a1 32bit -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] lyx GUI fonts
On Thursday 15 March 2007, Istvan Gabor wrote: Hello list users: I've installed the new lyx 1.5 beta version (lyx-beta-1.5.0beta1- 1.guru.suse102) on my openSUSE 10.2 system. The program starts fine but the GUI fonts are very small. I tried to change the GTK font sizes in KDE control center but it had no effect. I ran gnome-font-properties and changed font sizes there but it had no effect either. How could I raise the font size in the lyx GUI? LyX uses Qt, not GTK, so I'd guess (and correctly, since I just tried it) that qtconfig will do what you want. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] mod_perl in OpenSuse 10.2
Op donderdag 15 maart 2007 21:30, schreef David Bolt: Now why oh why did they ship the mod_perl.conf file that way when they had created the directory /srv/www/perl-lib to put perl scripts in? No idea. I always install any scripts into /cgi-bin/. It makes things much easier as it just works. The next question is - how do you fix the file to get it to work? If you really want to use it, it just needs a few of changes. Do perl scripts work from userdir ($HOME/public_html or $HOME/public_html/cgi-bin) as well. Or does that need changes to the config file as well? -- Richard Bos We are borrowing the world of our children, It is not inherited from our parents. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] What I Want (was Why I don't upgrade often)
On Thursday 15 March 2007, Stevens wrote: Lee: What I want is a system that has a web browser that can display the streaming videos included on many websites, including the different news services like Reuters, ABC, CNN, etc at Yahoo.com and the trailers at film.com. Basically the same functionality that a Windoes user would have on the same websites. === One thing to remember here. These sites are not always designed well or correctly. Either on purpose or just stupidity, they don't always build their sites with everyone in mind, nor do they bother testing beyond one browser. Sad, but true fact of life. Complain to them! At some point they'll hear you. The sites I've written emails too, banking, insurance, etc., sites that have to deal with all types of customers seem to be listening. Also, find the sites that work best and visit them. They all count their visitors, so let them know by not supporting them. In my opinion, this is critically important to get a Windows user to want to swap to Linux. After all, why make the change if you lose features? Office apps are not an issue (due to OO), games aren't either because of wine and parallels (or vmware). Not needing antivirus or malware software won't do the trick, nor will the lower price of the OS. No, the one issue that breaks the bank is full-featured web browsing. If that can be made to work correctly then there is really no need whatsoever to retain Windows, other than maybe a virtual machine for the reasons mentioned above. My goal is to be able to sever the Windows umbilical that so many people are attached to. I want the stereotypical blonde to be able to turn on the computer and run it just as easily as she does Windows. I cannot do that with the tools I have now. As for my location, it's about 50 miles out of Dallas, TX. Fred == If you want something that works out of the box on these sites, then Zenwalk or Vector will satisfy your needs. Also your needs in converting Windows users over. That's what I've been doing with both recently. Once I get them converted, I'll move them over to more robust setups, like OpenSuse, but for now I can install, setup and get a machine out the door in an hour with either of those, where it would take me a couple of days with Suse. Your choice, but you have to put out the effort. Lee -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] lyx GUI fonts
Hello list users: I've installed the new lyx 1.5 beta version (lyx-beta- 1.5.0beta1- 1.guru.suse102) on my openSUSE 10.2 system. The program starts fine but the GUI fonts are very small. I tried to change the GTK font sizes in KDE control center but it had no effect. I ran gnome-font-properties and changed font sizes there but it had no effect either. How could I raise the font size in the lyx GUI? LyX uses Qt, not GTK, so I'd guess (and correctly, since I just tried it) that qtconfig will do what you want. -- Thanks for the quick reply! qtconfig really did it. ÚJ LAKÁS? FELÚJÍTÁS? LAKÁSKASSZÁVAL MEGÉRI! lakaskassza.origo.hu http://cthandler.adverticum.net/?cturl=http%3A%2F%2Flakaskassza.origo.hu%2Findex.html%3Flevelelja -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Why I don't upgrade often
Hi, On Thursday 15 March 2007 19:39, John Andersen wrote: On Thursday 15 March 2007, Hartmut Meyer wrote: Just for the sake of it, let's have a look at the most recent recommended update as announced on the suse-security-announce mailing list on the 6th of March: --- snip - SUSE Security Announcement Package: MozillaFirefox,seamonkey Yet another User space application having NOTHING WHAT SO EVER to do with running Suse 9.0 or 10.2 or even 7.3 if you were so inclined. ?? Are you saying that only kernel security issues are relevant? The next security advisory (from today) was about PHP ... I'm afraid I just don't get what your talking about :-( Greetings from Stuhr hartmut -- Hartmut Meyer, EMEA NTS Business Development Project Manager SUSE LINUX GmbH, GF: Volker Smid, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg T: +49 421 3064385 - M: +49 179 2279480 F: +49 421 3064387 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE® Linux Enterprise 10 - Your Linux is ready http://www.novell.com/linux pgpz1je6r1dXd.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse] Why I don't upgrade often
On Thursday 15 March 2007 11:21, Randall R Schulz wrote: It does do user-level preemptive multitasking but not kernel level. Perhaps you're drawing some real distinction here, but I'm not sure what it is. The distinction (which I am now re-researching) is that there is a difference between preemptable and interruptable. Interrupt driven is not precisely the same thing as preemptive from a scheduler standpoint--- dispatching based on interrupts vs dispatching based on master scheduling and time-slice. Windoze (at least in my experience) does not seem to faithfully schedule kernel processes according to true preemptive scheduling... seems like the kernel gets preferential treatment and often the entire system resource is hogged by the kernel at the expense of user space. I have to go back now and restudy this... but I am thinking that Kai is correct... NT didn't have it right. and it sure didn't match up with OS/2 or the 2.0.36 kernel (linux at the time). -- Kind regards, M Harris -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] YaST partitioner question - mounted disks
Hi, When I fire up YaST - System - Partitioner, there is a warning that pops up, essentially saying, among other things, NEVER (my emphasis) partition disks that may in any way be in use (mounted, swap, etc) unless you know exactly what you are doing. Let's pretend for a moment that this applies to me and I click Yes to continue. I am curious about the never part of this. In my situation, when I installed 10.2 I created primary swap and root partitions in sdc1 and sdc2. I created an extended partion (sdc3) and put /home in a logical partition (sdc5). I intentionally left unallocated space at the initial install. I would now like to allocate this additional space (sdc6) and mount it at /local. Is it safe to do this while the disk is mounted? I would like to know because I have done this already (several times) :-) and it did not seem to cause any problems - except the last time. The repartitioning worked, but /local was hosed (interpreted as a read-only file system and no changes could be made - even as root). I checked the disk and it turned out that sdc was failing SMART tests, and I have replaced it. I have in the past tested the disks occassionally (and will now do so more regularly) and I do not recall this disk ever having failed the smart tests before this (but I am not sure about this). I'm guessing that there was a bad area on the disk, which wasn't accessed as it was in the unallocated space. Allocating the space led to these problems surfacing. I do not think that this was related to repartitioning the mounted disk, but I would like some confirmation if possible. As I said, I've done this on other disks previously and have not noticed any problems. Was I just lucky those other times (and doing something I shouldn't be doing) or was I unlucky this time. Any information will be appreciated. (I am getting somewhat paranoid about this because this is the 4th hard drive I have had die on me in roughly the last 18 months. I don't know anyone else in that time who has had even one go bad.) -- Don -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Why I don't upgrade often
On Thursday 15 March 2007 16:15, Hartmut Meyer wrote: Are you saying that only kernel security issues are relevant? The next security advisory (from today) was about PHP ... I'm afraid I just don't get what your talking about :-( You are talking past each other... ... you are talking now about keeping apps in user space up-to-date (worthwhile endeavor) and he is talking about your original FUD that running a back-level version (linux kernel) was risky. That not only is FUD, its ridiculous. You can run Suse 9.3 all day long every day for the next ten years without a single problem... and that is not to say that you will not need to update Firefox. Firefox may have vulnerabilities that a sensible user will patch--- and that have absolutely nothing to do with your first claim about back-level Suse versions. You get it? -- Kind regards, M Harris -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] LVM as root revert
Hi. El Jueves, 15 de Marzo de 2007, Adam Williams escribió: I create an LVM volume and mounted it as /, but I would like to revert it to it's original partition, I tried it from reverting from the LVM gui, but it couldn't do it because / is mounted, is there any way to do this, I am thinking safe mode or starting from disk, but I am not sure how to do the reversion, any advice? I do't know how to solve this, but is a good practice to not mount / in LVM, Nah, all our systems have an LVM /. Works just fine. Make a 100-250Mb /boot and LVM absolutely everything else. I've had filesystems go fritz but I've never had LVM bomb out, and LVM is your friend for recovering or changing systems. put / on a ext3 partition and then mount /var, /usr /home /srv or whatever you need on LVM, but don't mount /, it could give you problems with corrupt LVM images And a corrupt /usr, /var, and /srv is fine? You can boot on level 1 and try to fix the lvm. -- Un Saludo. Carlos Lorenzo Matés pgpHFoSoJdQ5i.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse] ALC850 problems in 10.2
On Thursday 15 March 2007 04:24, Anders Norrbring wrote: Anyone who's managed to get any sound from a Realtek ALC850 chip in 10.2? I just tried to install on a MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum and the sound is detected as nVidia nForce3.. The mobo carry the nForce chipset, but the audio part is served by the Realtek chip... You are being bitten by the decision of Novell to install *only* open code drivers... and unfortunately the Realtek stuff is not... so, you'll need to get the drivers from Realtek. I am still running 10.0 (not as brave as you my friend) and my latest machines (HP slimlines) also require the Realtek drivers. I was able to download the drivers from Realtek, install in ALSA, and get the sound to work... took me a couple of days to work things out... I'm slower than some. -- Kind regards, M Harris -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] mod_perl in OpenSuse 10.2
On Thu, 15 Mar 2007, Richard Bos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:- Op donderdag 15 maart 2007 21:30, schreef David Bolt: Now why oh why did they ship the mod_perl.conf file that way when they had created the directory /srv/www/perl-lib to put perl scripts in? No idea. I always install any scripts into /cgi-bin/. It makes things much easier as it just works. The next question is - how do you fix the file to get it to work? If you really want to use it, it just needs a few of changes. Do perl scripts work from userdir ($HOME/public_html or $HOME/public_html/cgi-bin) as well. Not here they don't[0], which is a Good Thing(tm). Or does that need changes to the config file as well? To open up that sort of security hole would require changes to the config file(s), changes I personally would not make. As to the security hole. Adding a binary or script to /srv/www/cgi-bin, /srv/www/cgi-perl or /srv/www/perl-lib requires the root password. Adding a random binary or script to ~/public_html/cgi-bin/ only requires user-level access. It's possible, although unlikely, that this could be a vector for installing a root-kit. [0] Tested because, even though I thought it wouldn't work, I just wanted to make sure I didn't have a hole to close: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ mkdir public_html/cgi-bin [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ sed -e 's#2.0 rocks#2.0 breaks rocks#g' /srv/www/cgi-bin/test.pl ~/public_html/cgi-bin/test.pl [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ telnet localhost 80 Trying 127.0.0.1... Connected to localhost. Escape character is '^]'. GET /~davjam/cgi-bin/test.pl HTTP/1.0 HTTP/1.1 200 OK Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 21:33:54 GMT Server: Apache/2.2.3 (Linux/SUSE) Last-Modified: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 21:33:35 GMT ETag: 69143-5c-42bbde01309c0 Accept-Ranges: bytes Content-Length: 92 Connection: close Content-Type: application/x-perl #!/usr/bin/perl print Content-type: text/plain\n\n; print mod_perl 2.0 breaks rocks!\n; Connection closed by foreign host. Regards, David Bolt -- Member of Team Acorn checking nodes at 50 Mnodes/s: http://www.distributed.net/ RISCOS 3.11 | SUSE 10.0 32bit | SUSE 10.1 32bit | openSUSE 10.2 32bit RISCOS 3.6 | SUSE 10.0 64bit | SUSE 10.1 64bit | openSUSE 10.2 64bit TOS 4.02| SUSE 9.3 32bit | | openSUSE 10.3a1 32bit -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
