Re: [opensuse] making mplayer work

[Larry Stotler]

On 4/4/07, dwain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I don't have the video card on this old machine that will really handle
full motion video.  Maybe one day I'll build a new machine that will
have the video card and enough RAM to do such a thing.  But for now as
long as I can listen to my jazz stations, I'm a happy Linux camper.


I've played full screen XviD or x264s on a P3/450Mhz with an ATI Rage
Pro AGP video card.  Most hardware accelerated cards are MPEG2
specific, not MPEG4.  Newer ones are, but I honestly don't know how
much MPlayer can actually take advantage of them.  My understanding is
that it's mostly cpu decoding, and then it sends it out to the video
card for playback.  I've even played full motion video on a 2MB
trident PCI card on a Xeon 2.8Ghz.
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RE: [opensuse] OpenSuse 10.2 x86_64 RAM disk & server lock ups

[David Wilson]

Hi John,

Thanks for your reply.
Yes, the servers are HP-ML370's. Dual Xeon with Hyperthreading so
/proc/cpuinfo shows up 4 CPUs.

 
Kind regards
 
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-Original Message-
From: John Andersen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 04 April 2007 04:41 AM
To: opensuse@opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [opensuse] OpenSuse 10.2 x86_64 RAM disk & server lock ups

On Tuesday 03 April 2007, David Wilson wrote:
> do you know if there's a way of picking up what caused the deadlock ?
> I've looked through /var/log/messages but there's no mention of anything
> with regards to the lockup.

Well I trimmed too much and do not have reference to your hardware any
longer, but it seems to me that it was an SMP setup, No?


There is currently a huge thread on the VMware Forum about freezes on
Core 2 Duo machines.  One of the technically competent VMware programmers 
(Petr) suggests its due to a horribly broken hpet timer routine used by 
Linux. 

Read thru the thread 
http://www.vmware.com/community/thread.jspa?threadID=77895&tstart=0

Try booting with the kernel parameter:  hpet=disable

It did not solve the core 2 duo problem (at least not for me), but it didn't
introduce any problems either, so since you are locking up and rebooting
you should have a chance to try it.

Personally I have never had this freeze/lockup outside of Vmware, so I think
Petr is looking at a kernel problem when the problem is in Vmware.

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Re: [opensuse] How to setup a booting splash?

[Jigish Gohil]

On 4/4/07, Magiclouds Magicloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Dear all,
I installed my openSuSE 10.2 with text terminal, then I installed
X over internet. So after I choose to start openSuSE in grub, the
rolling text appears.
Could someone tell me how to use the splash? Thanks.


http://forums.suselinuxsupport.de/index.php?s=871ad99ca62a449cd0d90352aafa994a&showtopic=24928&pid=224369&st=40&#entry224369

For me adding vga=791 at the end of kernel parameter in
/boot/grub/menu.lst  fixes the bootsplash issue after network
installation.

Cheers

-J
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Re: [opensuse] Gnome 2.18

[Martin J Hooper]

Aaron Kulkis wrote:

Why?
Every new version of gnome is more and more crippled
as they REMOVE more and more customization options to
be hard set for 'the typical user'.. who, in fact,
doesn't actually exist.




Because I want to see whats new - Probably stick with KDE though 
as I prefer its configurability...



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Re: [opensuse] making mplayer work

[dwain]

Gavin Chester wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-04-04 at 00:33 -0400, Larry Stotler wrote:
>   
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: Larry Stotler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: Apr 3, 2007 11:41 AM
>> Subject: Re: [opensuse] making mplayer work
>> To: dwain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>>
>> On 4/3/07, dwain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>> How do I get the program to read the dvd?  what audio and video codecs
>>> should I use?
>>>   
>> MPlayer works best when compiled from source.  Go here:
>> 
>
> That's all well and good if you like to get down and dirty :-)  However,
> on several machines I have just relied on 'smart' package manager with
> the repositories of packman and guru enabled.  All you have to do is
> '#smart install mplayer w32codecs-all', or some such, and you're good to
> go with all video formats.
>
> Gavin
>
>   
My major problem was that Mplayer would not load the disk.  I'm not sure
if I did it correctly, but the disk wouldn't play.  I kept getting a
seek error.  Anyway, I had a hardware issue with VLC and once I took
care of that all worked well.

Jan had mentioned a multimedia set up, but all I really want to do is
listen to the radio, and vlc does that for me.  I tried Gstreamer,
couldn't get it to find stations, tried Kaffeine and no luck there. 
Felix mentioned having problems with VLC, but I downloaded my
installation package from videolan.org.  There were easy to install
instructions and it works fine for me.  Could it be that the Packman
package is broken somewhere?  Or did I really miss what Felix was trying
to say?

I don't have the video card on this old machine that will really handle
full motion video.  Maybe one day I'll build a new machine that will
have the video card and enough RAM to do such a thing.  But for now as
long as I can listen to my jazz stations, I'm a happy Linux camper.

Cheers,
Dwain

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Re: [opensuse] making mplayer work

[Gavin Chester]

On Wed, 2007-04-04 at 00:33 -0400, Larry Stotler wrote:
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Larry Stotler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Apr 3, 2007 11:41 AM
> Subject: Re: [opensuse] making mplayer work
> To: dwain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> 
> On 4/3/07, dwain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > How do I get the program to read the dvd?  what audio and video codecs
> > should I use?
> 
> MPlayer works best when compiled from source.  Go here:

That's all well and good if you like to get down and dirty :-)  However,
on several machines I have just relied on 'smart' package manager with
the repositories of packman and guru enabled.  All you have to do is
'#smart install mplayer w32codecs-all', or some such, and you're good to
go with all video formats.

Gavin

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[opensuse] making mplayer work

[Larry Stotler]

-- Forwarded message --
From: Larry Stotler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Apr 3, 2007 11:41 AM
Subject: Re: [opensuse] making mplayer work
To: dwain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


On 4/3/07, dwain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

How do I get the program to read the dvd?  what audio and video codecs
should I use?


MPlayer works best when compiled from source.  Go here:

http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/dload.html

And pull the latest svn and download the codecs package.  Put the
codecs in /usr/local/lib/codecs/

If you want a GUI, you will need to download the skins and a font and
put the skin in /usr/local/share/mplayer/skins/default and the font in
/usr/local/share/mplayer/font

You can just run ../configure or for a gui ../configure --enable-gui

If you want to use Mencoder and other codecs, download the sources and
compile them as well.

I usually install XviD, x264, and mp3lame from source.  Also, make
sure you install nasm from source first as well.  You have to install
all the codecs before you compile mplayer.

For mp3lame, there's an extra step.  MPlayer looks for it in /lib, but
it gets installed in /usr/local/lib, so you need to do this:

ln -s /usr/local/lib/libmp3lame.so.0.0.0 /lib/libmp3lame.so.0

SVN is almost always stable.  Further, the devs won't accept bugs from
prebuilt packages, so if you have a problem, install from source.  I
also usually install the alsa devel package as well as directfb and a
couple of other video output devels as well.

As for reading dvds, MPlayer has libdvdcss incorporated in it, so you
don't have to install that seperately.  Of course, there is the DMCA
in the US that makes it illegal for me to watch a DVD I legally
purchased on my linux box because I have to use libdvdcss.  I have
never owned a stand alone dvd player and won't waste my $$ on one
either.

Good luck.
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[opensuse] grub

[Doug McGarrett]

I suppose this should go to the bugzilla thing, but I don't know how to get 
there, and those who do that probably read here.

On another computer, which is down partly for this reason, I had XP on the
first hard drive, and SuSE 10.0 on the second hard drive, using Grub for the
boot controller, and Reiser FS.

It turned out that the second HD failed.  Then it was impossible to boot the 
system, since it seems that Grub portions out its booter between the first 
and second drives.  The first drive attempts to boot the system, but it comes
up with Grub, and then Grub error, and then you are in the pot.  Nothing
will help, since part of Grub must be on the second drive, which has failed.

(I have had some semi-professionals check out drive 2 and verify that it
failed.  The Best-Buy Geek Squad.  They don't seem to know very much about
Linux.)

It's absolutely ridiculous that a boot manager should share its secrets over
two drives. This is an excellent example of why not. 

I need some kind of boot CD or DVD (or floppy) that can be run from a CD drive
that will restore the boot of the XP system.  Or some kind of NTFS boot
disk.  I think I need to have a program that will access the disk and
send it "FIX MBR"  from some conversation some time ago, here.
The Geek Squad doesn't seem to know how to do any of this.  And I don't
either.   

I would be happy to pay for the floppy or CD that would make the XP machine 
work again.  It will never have Linux on it anymore, but I have this machine,
with its own problems running Linux, and until I couldn't print, fairly 
happily.

--doug





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Re: [opensuse] printer problem

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 21:17 -0400, Doug McGarrett wrote:
> On Tuesday 03 April 2007 18:50, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> > * Doug McGarrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [04-03-07 18:22]:
> > > On Monday 02 April 2007 21:46, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> > > > * Doug McGarrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [04-02-07 20:32]:
> > > >  [...]
> >
> >  [...]
> >
> > > I have read man lppasswd but I don't know what to do next.  It would
> > > appear from the error message that the username is doug, but it says
> > > on localhost, and the man lppasswd refers to cups, not localhost, or
> > > am I still missing something?
> >
> > yes, you are missing something.  From 'man lppasswd':
> >
> > DESCRIPTION
> >lppasswd adds, changes, or deletes passwords in the CUPS digest
> >password file, passwd.md5. When run by a normal user, lppasswd
> >will prompt for the old and new passwords.  When run by the
> >super-user, lppasswd can add new accounts (-a username), change
> >existing accounts (username), or delete accounts (-x username)
> >in the digest password file. Digest usernames do not have to
> >match local UNIX user†names.
> >
> >  [] also
> >

The command needs to be run as root. You can do this either by logging
in as root or simply use su to become root. The command is:

lppasswd -g sys -a some_admin_username

You will be asked to supply a password twice. Once this is setup you
will need to use this supplied user name and password. And the
some_admin_username can be anything you want it to be.

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Re: [opensuse]] Win vs Lin info

[M Harris]

On Monday 02 April 2007 21:05, Carl William Spitzer IV wrote:
> Long ago about 2000 years we were warned we could not serve both GOD and
> Bill Gates.
Preach it, bubba

... Amen
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Re: [opensuse] Communicating with Vista

[M Harris]

On Tuesday 03 April 2007 10:30, John Pierce wrote:
> The best way to communicate with vista, DON'T.

[opensuse] suse config after smart upgrade

[Gavin Chester]

I saw someone on a forum recommend that you keep your suse system
configuration files informed and updated of the changes to your packages
by executing these two commands as superuser AFTER doing your smart
install or upgrade: 
# SuSEconfig
and then  
#ldconfig
NOTE: the upper/lower case syntax.

I've done a lot of smart updates to suse without this additional
operation and there appears to be no harm from NOT doing it.  However,
yast performs that system config update every time you change a
configuration file so my question is whether that operation is something
unique to suse and should I do it as advised to keep my system running
in peak health? 

Gavin

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Re: [opensuse] Laptop Rebooting - Possible Memory Issue?

[John Andersen]

On Tuesday 03 April 2007, Kai Ponte wrote:
> I have noticed that my laptop as of late has been rebooting on a regular
> basis, without my intervention. I noticed it just now in fact. I hadn't had
> it on all day, came home from work, booted it, went to get a drink came
> back and the system was just powering down. It came up of course, with all
> the journal transactions replayed, but this is getting annoying.
>
> I thought maybe it was firefox or kmail or flash or netbeans or some other
> app.  However, nothing consistent is showing.
>
> I ran memtest86+ (version 1.7 downloaded a boot iso) for a few hours
> yesterday but didn't notice anything.

Is it a sony?



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Re: [opensuse] OpenSuse 10.2 x86_64 RAM disk & server lock ups

[John Andersen]

On Tuesday 03 April 2007, David Wilson wrote:
> do you know if there's a way of picking up what caused the deadlock ?
> I've looked through /var/log/messages but there's no mention of anything
> with regards to the lockup.

Well I trimmed too much and do not have reference to your hardware any
longer, but it seems to me that it was an SMP setup, No?


There is currently a huge thread on the VMware Forum about freezes on
Core 2 Duo machines.  One of the technically competent VMware programmers 
(Petr) suggests its due to a horribly broken hpet timer routine used by 
Linux. 

Read thru the thread 
http://www.vmware.com/community/thread.jspa?threadID=77895&tstart=0

Try booting with the kernel parameter:  hpet=disable

It did not solve the core 2 duo problem (at least not for me), but it didn't
introduce any problems either, so since you are locking up and rebooting
you should have a chance to try it.

Personally I have never had this freeze/lockup outside of Vmware, so I think
Petr is looking at a kernel problem when the problem is in Vmware.

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[opensuse] Laptop Rebooting - Possible Memory Issue?

[Kai Ponte]

I have noticed that my laptop as of late has been rebooting on a regular 
basis, without my intervention. I noticed it just now in fact. I hadn't had 
it on all day, came home from work, booted it, went to get a drink came back 
and the system was just powering down. It came up of course, with all the 
journal transactions replayed, but this is getting annoying.

I thought maybe it was firefox or kmail or flash or netbeans or some other 
app.  However, nothing consistent is showing.  

I ran memtest86+ (version 1.7 downloaded a boot iso) for a few hours yesterday 
but didn't notice anything.


Any ideas where to look?
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[opensuse] What source package provides xorg-server.pc on Suse 10

[david rankin]

Mates,

   I am trying to compile xf86-video-intel-1.9.93 from xorg. ./configure 
fails with the error:


Package xorg-server was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps 
you should add the directory containing `xorg-server.pc' to the 
PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable No package 'xorg-server' found


   I can't seem to find the srpm or rpm that gives me xorg-server.pc. 
HELP! Where is it hiding??  I have the following xorg packages installed:


providence:/home/david/Documents/linux/video_WideScreen # rpm -qa | grep 
xorg

xorg-x11-fonts-75dpi-6.8.2-100
xorg-x11-6.8.2-100.2
xorg-x11-devel-6.8.2-100
xorg-x11-doc-6.8.2-100
xorg-x11-Mesa-6.8.2-100
xorg-x11-Xvnc-6.8.2-100
xorg-x11-fonts-scalable-6.8.2-100
xorg-x11-sdk-6.8.2-100
xorg-x11-server-glx-6.8.2-100
xorg-x11-man-6.8.2-100
xorg-x11-Mesa-devel-6.8.2-100
xorg-x11-libs-6.8.2-100.2
xorg-x11-server-6.8.2-100.10

   Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

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Re: [opensuse] Tape backup? - slightly OT

[John Andersen]

On Tuesday 03 April 2007, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
> No, you really need to look at a phone bill.  Mine comes every month in
> a big box which includes frame-relay and a dozen T1s.  All this off-site
> over-the-wire backup sounds great until you calculate the cost of the
> WAN connections - I could buy a new tape drive every month.  Backing up
> corporate data over DSL or cable lines is not realistic,  upstream
> speeds are not nearly good enough.  Y

So back it up to another part of the building on your local lan.  

Its highly unlikely the ENTIRE CAMPUS will burn down, and if it
does you have far greater problems, as well as a collection of
melted tapes.

Much as you protest, this is where the industry is going. 
Disk drives are falling in price each year.  Tape solutions always
seem to cost as much as the computer that they are attached to.

Disk technology is in the field, inexpensive, and robust.
Even for small shop something like this might do:
http://www.wdc.com/en/products/Products.asp?DriveID=270

Want network attach:  See this one:
http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.asp?driveid=279&language=en





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[opensuse] easiest-to-maintain and trouble-free VPN solution?

[Zhang Weiwu]

Dear list

I wish to run a VPN server on a Ubuntu Linux and all client machines are
SuSE 10.2 Linux. My goal is:

 1. the server must be very easy to maintain, not easily broken,
trouble-free; that is I wish to use the most stable technology.
 2. the same requirement on client side: easy to set up on SuSE
10.2, easy to maintain and troubleshoot; We always run short of
time on daily work so the solution must be as less troublesome
as possible;
 3. It's not required to be compatible with Windows as we are almost
pure Linux environment here.

As I glance over all the options, there are a lot of VPN technology:
IPSec, L2TP, PPTP, OpenVPN... As I never touched any VPN related
technology before, I'd like to ask the list what would you recommend in
my office?

Thanks a lot in advance!

P.S. I know VPN server on Ubuntu is off topic, but I think this info can
be important for other people suggesting a VPN solution.

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Re: [opensuse] SCPM Problem?

[John Pierce]

Sorry for the delay in the response time, I was away for a few hours.

Jerry!

I am using the ndiswrapper, this laptop has an internal pci express
broadcom chip and even with fw-cutter it will not functionn properly,
I understand that when we get to a 2.6.20 kernel it may well work.


Anders!

Both of the grep commands listed above return nothing, that is blank.

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[opensuse] How to setup a booting splash?

[Magiclouds Magicloud]

Dear all,
   I installed my openSuSE 10.2 with text terminal, then I installed
X over internet. So after I choose to start openSuSE in grub, the
rolling text appears.
   Could someone tell me how to use the splash? Thanks.
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Re: [opensuse] printer problem

[Doug McGarrett]

On Tuesday 03 April 2007 18:50, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> * Doug McGarrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [04-03-07 18:22]:
> > On Monday 02 April 2007 21:46, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> > > * Doug McGarrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [04-02-07 20:32]:
> > >  [...]
>
>  [...]
>
> > I have read man lppasswd but I don't know what to do next.  It would
> > appear from the error message that the username is doug, but it says
> > on localhost, and the man lppasswd refers to cups, not localhost, or
> > am I still missing something?
>
> yes, you are missing something.  From 'man lppasswd':
>
> DESCRIPTION
>lppasswd adds, changes, or deletes passwords in the CUPS digest
>password file, passwd.md5. When run by a normal user, lppasswd
>will prompt for the old and new passwords.  When run by the
>super-user, lppasswd can add new accounts (-a username), change
>existing accounts (username), or delete accounts (-x username)
>in the digest password file. Digest usernames do not have to
>match local UNIX user‐ names.
>
>  [] also
>
> SEE ALSO
>lp(1), lpr(1),
>http://localhost:631/help
>
> > If I go to KJobViewer, I can delete everything queued but KDE Print
> > System and KDE Print Test, which are owned by root.  If I could find
> > those files in a directory (where is it and what's it called?) I might
> > be able to su and delete them also, and then maybe the system might
> > work, I don't know.
>
> did you try KJobViewer as root ??  Root would own root's jobs.

As root, cd /KJobViewer no such file or directory
>
> > > or search the opensuse list archives.  It has been mentioned/described
> > > *many* times.
>
> not tried, not interested 

There are only three communications, and they did not seem helpful.  
Used Google:  opensuse list archive lppasswd 

I am kind of desperate here.  The XP machine may be down for the count, and
the only thing sort of working is this Linux machine which I cannot print 
from, for no obvious reason--it was working fine, even tho only with the 
color printer, and all of a sudden, blooie!

Is there anyone that anyone knows on eastern Long Island, NY that might be
able to make this thing work?  I suppose that I could wipe and reinstall, but 
I have about 4 MB of data--from this list--that I would like to keep, and no
CD or DVD writer on the machine, and I'm a bit worried about trying to add
one while everthing else is in flux.

--doug
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Re: [opensuse] sound error

[Carl Hartung]

On Wed April 4 2007 20:28, bill biggs wrote:
> suse found the sound card will use it in root but not user How do I get
> it to work in user

Hi Bill,

A brief snippet from my forensics notes:
> Unless all logged-in users are members of the audio group, it looks
> like /dev/dsp will only work for the first user who logs in.

What is the output of 'l /dev/dsp'?
Are all users members of group 'audio'?

I'm not certain this is what's happening in your case, but with the hardware 
functioning correctly for one user (superuser) it certainly seems likely that 
permissions are involved.

hth & regards,

Carl
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RE: [opensuse] subversion install (Suse 9.3)

[James D. Parra]

James D. Parra escribió:

> 
> Thank you for the info. Very useful.

;-)

> Performed the upgrade, however the repository can't be browsed.

browsed with an svn client ? with a web interface ?

I assume you :

1. if it is a web client,you have apache installed, you upgraded apache

2. you upgraded subversion , subversion-server and all it's
 dependencies correctly.

 I get the
> following error trying to check out a file.
> 
> File not found: transaction '653-1', path
> '/data/svnrepos/web/web_mcr/class/checkbox.php'
>

Thanks Cristian.

We are using the svn client and SmartSVN (server version is 1.4.3) with the
svn protocol;



Running SVN from command line:
Action:
svn checkout svn://192.168.20.14:/data/svnrepos/  /srv/www/htdocs/mcr_svn/
Error:
svn: URL 'svn://192.168.20.14:/data/svnrepos' doesn't exist




Running from SmartSVN ( Java GUI - Version 2.1.3):
Action:
Attempting to browse the repository
Error:
svn: Directory svn://terabyte/data/svnrepos does not exist in repository at
revision HEAD

Action:
Attempting to commit back to repository
Error:
svn: File not found: transaction 'ii', path
'/data/svnrepos/web/web_mcr/class/class_text.php'




I also noticed that with both the command line version and SmartSVN, I am
able to 'add'  and
'update' to the repository. Every time the transaction goes through with
revision 653.

Also can access the repository, locally via 'file:///' with 'checkout' and
'add'

I hope this helps.

Thanks again,

~James
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[opensuse] sound error

[bill biggs]

suse found the sound card will use it in root but not user How do I get
it to work in user

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Re: [opensuse] printer problem

[Carlos E. R.]

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The Tuesday 2007-04-03 at 18:21 -0400, Doug McGarrett wrote:

> > lppasswd is your problem
> >
> > man lppasswd
> 
> I have read man lppasswd but I don't know what to do next.  It would appear
> from the error message that the username is doug, but it says on localhost, 
> and the man lppasswd refers to cups, not localhost, or am I still missing 
> something?

Yesterday I sent you some links that explain all this in detail.

The cups system uses different passwords from the linux system, and till 
you add a password a user is denied access to control the printer. Not 
even root can access till he has defined a password for cups for his use 
(different from the one for the system, preferably). All these passwords 
are defined using lppasswd.

> 
> If I go to KJobViewer, I can delete everything queued but KDE Print System
> and KDE Print Test, which are owned by root.  If I could find those files in a
> directory (where is it and what's it called?) I might be able to su and delete
> them also, and then maybe the system might work, I don't know.

You do not need to know where are those files stored, nor would that help 
you much. You simply tell root to remove those print jobs, using "lprm" or 
the web interface in , as I told you yesterday. 
Try! I can't believe that you haven't used that interface yet in all this 
time.

> > or search the opensuse list archives.  It has been mentioned/described
> > *many* times.

Hundreds, probably.

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Re: [opensuse] SuSE removes files

[Hudibras]

El mar, 03-04-2007 a las 16:17 -0400, Jerry Feldman escribió:
> Let's regress a bit. Based on your responses, we know you are an
> experienced user. So, lets try to think of ways that files can be
> deleted or hidden. 

Thank you. I said before I was not going to follow the thread, because
of some responses of some people here. But, as you do answer, I will be
not so unkind and not answer too. 
You're the first people that have into account and consider my ten years
of linux experience. Thanks, again.

> Is it possible that something might have changed the partition table,

¿"Something"? If it so, don't you think this is not then a very serious
fail of my Linux system?

> so now you are mounting the wrong partitions. I've done that to myself
> a number of times without thinking. 

No. That's impossible. I reboot my machine... last time since nearly
four or five months before. 
No. Partitions where take place these "ghostly removings" is the /home
directory where I work every day. And sometimes I even change from one
user to another. I have only experienced this with my usual account
user, called "ale" (from my name Alejandro). 

> 
> One of the best ways to track this down is:
> 1. Boot to single user with only root mounted. 
> 2. foreach partition (use fdisk to list your partitions on all your
> drives). 
>   mount partition on /mnt
>   cd /mnt
>   find . -name 
>   cd
>   umount /mnt
> This can be tedious, but it is one way to find out if your files are
> still there. Make sure the file you are looking for was definitely
> there previously. Also, by using this method, you can assure yourself
> that you did not inadvertently mount another file system over a
> directory. 

But, I repeat again, do you consider a wrong partition mounting, for
instance, that some links are the UNIQUE links removed from time to time
from my Konqueror bookmarks? If so, what a nonsense partitioning I
have!!!  

> 
> Just one more question, did fsck report any errors, either before you
> lost your files or after you lost them. 

Nop. Last time I reboot, in order to check entire file system, nothng at
all... well, the usual message: "Hard drive has been mounted 266 days
without checking..." or so, you know. It finished quite right. 

Thank you very much. 

Cheers, 
Alejandro.


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Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice_org-de-2.1-17.1.x86_64.rpm missing

[Patrick Shanahan]

* Michael Riess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [04-03-07 18:44]:
> is there any reason for missing OpenOffice_org-de-2.1-17.1.x86_64.rpm
> in http://software.opensuse.org/download/OpenOffice.org ("de" is the
> what i am missing)

 ??  Missing?

> or otherwise: how do i know the author of a repo in build-services to
> contact?

18:52 wahoo:~ > rpm -q --changelog OpenOffice_org |head -1

then there is also the bug reports.
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Re: [opensuse] printer problem

[Patrick Shanahan]

* Doug McGarrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [04-03-07 18:22]:
> On Monday 02 April 2007 21:46, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> > * Doug McGarrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [04-02-07 20:32]:
> >  [...]
 [...] 
> I have read man lppasswd but I don't know what to do next.  It would
> appear from the error message that the username is doug, but it says
> on localhost, and the man lppasswd refers to cups, not localhost, or
> am I still missing something?

yes, you are missing something.  From 'man lppasswd':

DESCRIPTION
   lppasswd adds, changes, or deletes passwords in the CUPS digest
   password file, passwd.md5. When run by a normal user, lppasswd
   will prompt for the old and new passwords.  When run by the
   super-user, lppasswd can add new accounts (-a username), change
   existing accounts (username), or delete accounts (-x username)
   in the digest password file. Digest usernames do not have to
   match local UNIX user‐ names.

 [] also

SEE ALSO
   lp(1), lpr(1),
   http://localhost:631/help
  

> If I go to KJobViewer, I can delete everything queued but KDE Print
> System and KDE Print Test, which are owned by root.  If I could find
> those files in a directory (where is it and what's it called?) I might
> be able to su and delete them also, and then maybe the system might
> work, I don't know.

did you try KJobViewer as root ??  Root would own root's jobs.

> > or search the opensuse list archives.  It has been mentioned/described
> > *many* times.

not tried, not interested 

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[opensuse] OpenOffice_org-de-2.1-17.1.x86_64.rpm missing

[Michael Riess]

hi,

is there any reason for missing
OpenOffice_org-de-2.1-17.1.x86_64.rpm
in
http://software.opensuse.org/download/OpenOffice.org
("de" is the what i am missing)

or otherwise:
 how do i know the author
 of a repo in build-services
to contact?

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Re: [opensuse] printer problem

[Doug McGarrett]

On Monday 02 April 2007 21:46, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> * Doug McGarrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [04-02-07 20:32]:
>  [...]
>
> > I tried that, and was rewarded with "Password for doug on localhost?"
> > I don't know what password it wants.  I have tried all the passwords
> > that I normally would use, and none of them work.  Then it says:
> >
> > enable: Operation failed: client-error-not-authorized
> >
> > I don't know how to determine which version of CUPS is in use.
> > Whatever came with Suse 9.3, I assume, unless YaST updated it along
> > the way.
>
> come on, you've been using SUSE/openSUSE linux for a long time.
>
>   rpm -q cups

Of course it should have been obvious that rpm would lead to the version.
The version it reports is 1.1.23-7.6

>
> lppasswd is your problem
>
> man lppasswd

I have read man lppasswd but I don't know what to do next.  It would appear
from the error message that the username is doug, but it says on localhost, 
and the man lppasswd refers to cups, not localhost, or am I still missing 
something?

If I go to KJobViewer, I can delete everything queued but KDE Print System
and KDE Print Test, which are owned by root.  If I could find those files in a
directory (where is it and what's it called?) I might be able to su and delete
them also, and then maybe the system might work, I don't know.
>
> or search the opensuse list archives.  It has been mentioned/described
> *many* times.
>
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Re: [opensuse] Tape backup? - slightly OT

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The Tuesday 2007-04-03 at 21:33 +0200, jdd wrote:

> tapes are good as long as you don't need the data...

True...

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Re: [opensuse] Need to create a single-disk installer

[Mike Diehl]

Yes, there is.  Our final deployment will be in limited rack space on a 
stand-alone network.  We have the additional need to manage complexity since 
we won't be managing the server(s) directly.

On Tuesday 03 April 2007 15:31, Magnus Boman wrote:
> Mike,
>
> On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 15:30 -0600, Mike Diehl wrote:
> > Hi all.
> >
> > I'm needing to create a single CD/DVD that will automatically install and
> > configure a stripped down SLES9 server.  I've got an autoyast control.xml
> > file created that works from my pen drive just fine.
> >
> > But I'd like to see if I can minimize the amount of media swapping
> > involved by putting all of the needed .rpm files on one disk.  If I do
> > that, how do I tell the installer to not ask for the additional media?
>
> Is there a reason why you can't use an installation server?
> I'm sure there are ways to combine those CD's to a single DVD, but I
> doubt that it's supported by Novell/SUSE. If you still want to go ahead,
> have a look at http://en.opensuse.org/Making_a_DVD_from_CDs
>
> > TIA,
> >
> > --
> > Mike Diehl,
>
> Cheers,
> Magnus

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Re: [opensuse] Need to create a single-disk installer

[Magnus Boman]

Mike,

On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 15:30 -0600, Mike Diehl wrote:
> Hi all.
> 
> I'm needing to create a single CD/DVD that will automatically install and 
> configure a stripped down SLES9 server.  I've got an autoyast control.xml 
> file created that works from my pen drive just fine.
> 
> But I'd like to see if I can minimize the amount of media swapping involved 
> by 
> putting all of the needed .rpm files on one disk.  If I do that, how do I 
> tell the installer to not ask for the additional media?

Is there a reason why you can't use an installation server?
I'm sure there are ways to combine those CD's to a single DVD, but I
doubt that it's supported by Novell/SUSE. If you still want to go ahead,
have a look at http://en.opensuse.org/Making_a_DVD_from_CDs

> 
> TIA,
> 
> -- 
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Cheers,
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Re: [opensuse] subversion install (Suse 9.3)

[Cristian Rodriguez R.]

James D. Parra escribió:

> 
> Thank you for the info. Very useful.

;-)

> Performed the upgrade, however the repository can't be browsed.

browsed with an svn client ? with a web interface ?

I assume you :

1. if it is a web client,you have apache installed, you upgraded apache

2. you upgraded subversion , subversion-server and all it's
 dependencies correctly.

 I get the
> following error trying to check out a file.
> 
> File not found: transaction '653-1', path
> '/data/svnrepos/web/web_mcr/class/checkbox.php'
>

run svn update in the working copy.

if it does not work, then explain your problem better, including the
version of the package you installed.





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Re: [opensuse] Error occurred while creating the catalog - Unknown error: unable

[Stephen Yee]

test

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Re: [opensuse] Gnome 2.18

[Aaron Kulkis]

Martin J Hooper wrote:

Is there a repo with Gnome 2.18 anywhere??

Or a howto to get it installed?


Why?
Every new version of gnome is more and more crippled
as they REMOVE more and more customization options to
be hard set for 'the typical user'.. who, in fact,
doesn't actually exist.


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Re: [opensuse] SuSE removes files

[Jerry Feldman]

On Mon, 2 Apr 2007 04:19:31 +0200 (CEST)
"Carlos E. R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> There are many people 
> here for which English is not the first language (idioma nativo), me 
> included and we are used to "fuzzy" English, so 99% of people here are 
> very tolerant with _that_ ;-)
And 100% should be. We want to be inclusive. It is important that we
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Re: [opensuse] SCPM Problem?

[Anders Johansson]

On Tuesday 03 April 2007 22:42, Anders Johansson wrote:
> On Tuesday 03 April 2007 03:12, John Pierce wrote:
> > > Well, first things first...does the file exist in that location?  You
> > > might also try running 'scpm rebuild' to clean up the database.  I
> > > remember having to do that a few times in older SuSE versions where
> > > switching profiles sometimes failed in mid-stream.
> >
> > Ok, the file does exist and I ran the scpm rebuild command.  I did a
> > reboot and chose the work profile and it still booted to the home
> > profile, which was the last one that I was in.
>
> Out of curiosity, what does
>
> grep Restoring /var/log/boot.msg
>
> say, and how does it compare to what you selected on boot?

And while we're looking, what does

grep "boot mode" /var/log/boot.msg

say?

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Re: [opensuse] SCPM Problem?

[Anders Johansson]

On Tuesday 03 April 2007 03:12, John Pierce wrote:
> > Well, first things first...does the file exist in that location?  You
> > might also try running 'scpm rebuild' to clean up the database.  I
> > remember having to do that a few times in older SuSE versions where
> > switching profiles sometimes failed in mid-stream.
>
> Ok, the file does exist and I ran the scpm rebuild command.  I did a
> reboot and chose the work profile and it still booted to the home
> profile, which was the last one that I was in.

Out of curiosity, what does

grep Restoring /var/log/boot.msg

say, and how does it compare to what you selected on boot?

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Re: [opensuse] SCPM Problem?

[Jerry Feldman]

On Mon, 2 Apr 2007 20:12:35 -0500
"John Pierce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> This truly is one of the strange ones, hit or miss.  It works fine for
> some people and not for others.
> 
> I do appreciate you assistance, and I am not going to give up until I
> find the problem.
Good. My profiles work fine on my 10.2 laptop. 
One possible clue I just thought of. When I initially set up my
wireless, I disabled the bcm43xx driver in favor of ndiswrapper. While
ndiswrapper was working, it was not working at boot time. I've since
used fwcutter to grab the correct firmware and re-enabled the bcm43xx.
I'm not sure what configuration you have, but it could be that some
error is causing a profile not be be executed properly. I didn't think
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[opensuse] Need to create a single-disk installer

[Mike Diehl]

Hi all.

I'm needing to create a single CD/DVD that will automatically install and 
configure a stripped down SLES9 server.  I've got an autoyast control.xml 
file created that works from my pen drive just fine.

But I'd like to see if I can minimize the amount of media swapping involved by 
putting all of the needed .rpm files on one disk.  If I do that, how do I 
tell the installer to not ask for the additional media?

TIA,

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Re: [opensuse] SuSE removes files

[Jerry Feldman]

Let's regress a bit. Based on your responses, we know you are an
experienced user. So, lets try to think of ways that files can be
deleted or hidden. 
Is it possible that something might have changed the partition table,
so now you are mounting the wrong partitions. I've done that to myself
a number of times without thinking. 

One of the best ways to track this down is:
1. Boot to single user with only root mounted. 
2. foreach partition (use fdisk to list your partitions on all your
drives). 
mount partition on /mnt
cd /mnt
find . -name 
cd
umount /mnt
This can be tedious, but it is one way to find out if your files are
still there. Make sure the file you are looking for was definitely
there previously. Also, by using this method, you can assure yourself
that you did not inadvertently mount another file system over a
directory. 

Just one more question, did fsck report any errors, either before you
lost your files or after you lost them. 

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Re: [opensuse] Tape backup? - slightly OT

[Adam Tauno Williams]

On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 10:27 -0800, John Andersen wrote:
> On Tuesday 03 April 2007, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
> > But if you want to have 50+ USB chassis with hard drives to cycle your
> > backup on then by all means.  
> And if you purchase eggs in a sac you will see breakage as well.
> You keep putting forth this idea that hard drives should be moved
> around and plugged into something like they were tape cartridges.
> You really MUST expand your horizons.

No, you really need to look at a phone bill.  Mine comes every month in
a big box which includes frame-relay and a dozen T1s.  All this off-site
over-the-wire backup sounds great until you calculate the cost of the
WAN connections - I could buy a new tape drive every month.  Backing up
corporate data over DSL or cable lines is not realistic,  upstream
speeds are not nearly good enough.  You *might* be able to keep a remote
SAN in sync at a reasonable cost (minimum disaster recovery distance is
supposed to be something like 50 miles);  but that will probably require
at least a dedicated T1.  But you still have to back THAT up - and
backups mean you can go back,  not just to the most recent copy, but
back, as in "the end of 2006".  Your going to need a hell of allot of
online storage to pull that off.

And you cannot just rsync everything,  there is lots of date other than
files,  including Dits, mail stores, and relation databases.

> http://www.backupcentral.com/components/com_mambowiki/index.php/Disk_Targets,_currently_shipping
> http://www.intradyn.com/rocketvault/index.html


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RE: [opensuse] DVD Installation using Sony device

[John Hughes]

The SATA controllers say:

Drivers: ata_piix, generic
Loading ata_piix, generic

The IDE controllers say:

Drivers:  ahci, para_jmicron, generic
Loading   ahci, para_jmicron, generic

I've tried various combinations of brokenmodules to force certain modules
not to be loaded

Any other ideas?

Not sure how to do what you suggest re:

>> If it still doesn't work, try to install openSUSE10.2 with openSUSE's
>> 10.3 alpha installation CD. Then just add a recent kernel from SUSE HEAD
>> repository.

Can you explain more?  Does this mean to use a special installation CD and
then some how redirect6 to a 10.2 DVD?


Thanks for your help so far


John

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To: opensuse@opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [opensuse] DVD Installation using Sony device


John Hughes wrote:
> It's a Foxconn P9657AA motherboard with Intel E6300 dual core processor.
The
> motherboard has P965 + ICH8/ICH8R chipsets.
>   

Probably your DVD is not being recognized by that current Kernel Driver.

Do you have your IDE BIOS settings at Compatible/Legacy mode ? If so,
try to switch it to AHCI/Enhanced...

Also, if you boot to your installation system with 'splash=verbose' you
can watch witch drivers are loaded to you IDE controller. If you look at
something like:

drivers, piix, ata_piix. etc...
loading piix

try to pass the option bronkenmodules=piix at boot. This way the driver
loaded will be the ata_piix.

If it still doesn't work, try to install openSUSE10.2 with openSUSE's
10.3 alpha installation CD. Then just add a recent kernel from SUSE HEAD
repository.

Hope it helps you...

Rui



> John
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Rui Santos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 01 April 2007 23:09
> To: opensuse@opensuse.org
> Subject: Re: [opensuse] DVD Installation using Sony device
>
>
> John Hughes wrote:
>   
>> I've just built a new PC with a Sony AW-g170AB2 DVD+/-R/RW device
>>
>> I've tried to install SUSE 10.1 from a DVD without success.
>>
>> The PC boots up from the DVD without a problem.  However when I select
the
>> Installation option it says its cant find CD number 1.I guess it's a
>> problem with the device driver - or the correct one not being loaded.
>>
>> Any one got any ideas how to get around this?
>> 
>
> Which is your motherboard ?
> Or Chipset...
>
>
>   
>> John
>>
>>
>> 
>
>   

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RE: [opensuse] subversion install (Suse 9.3)

[James D. Parra]

James D. Parra escribió:
> Hello,
> 
> Installing subversion from source and I was able to find the Berkeley DB
> files needed to compile (loaded the development package from the DVD),
> however although Apache2 is installed (from the DVD) I can't locate the
apxs
> files. Any ideas on where I can find the apxs?


Good news:

newer Subversion is available in the buildservice for 9.3.

Bad news:

It does not compile with apr shipped with 9.3 anymore (too old). so you
will need to upgrade apr as well ( and probably apache, PHP and whaetevr
else you are using..so you might end upgrading more than you want ;P )


if you want to do this:

add the following sources to your package manager


http://ftp-1.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/repositories/Apache/SUSE_Linux_9.3

http://ftp-1.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/repositories/Subversion/Apache_SuSE_Linux_
9.3/



Thank you for the info. Very useful.

Performed the upgrade, however the repository can't be browsed. I get the
following error trying to check out a file.

File not found: transaction '653-1', path
'/data/svnrepos/web/web_mcr/class/checkbox.php'

I can view the tree;

# svnlook tree /data/svnrepos |grep web
 web/
web_mcr/


What might be happening and any clues on how to fix it?

Many thanks.

~James
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RE: [opensuse] OpenSuse 10.2 x86_64 RAM disk & server lock ups

[David Wilson]

Hi John,

Thanks for your reply.

Basically there is no real structure under /var/spool/asterisk/monitor -
it's one directory. While 60 or so agents are on calls there will be 60 .wav
file being written simultaneously to the RAM disk.
The filesystem was ext3 but of course we are now using tmpfs.

The recorded .wav files are moved out of RAM disk to the physical disk every
minute - when this happens, the process only takes a second or two to write
the files from RAM to the physical disk. Normally there is only about 80 or
so MBs at a time.

> Have you looked into a raw file system for disk writes?  
>(There was a time when raw file systems were common,
>but disk performance has moved beyond that now for the most part.)
I haven't look at this but perhaps it's an option ?
Most people out there that run Asterisk call centers of this capacity and
use call recording seem to have great success with using a RAM disk.

The problem I'm picking up right now is that Asterisk's active call audio
quality degrades when we write to the hard disk directly and not to RAM disk
first.

>From what I can see on the web a RAM disk is the best way to go for this -
do you know if there's a way of picking up what caused the deadlock ?
I've looked through /var/log/messages but there's no mention of anything
with regards to the lockup.

Thanks for your help so far.


 
Kind regards
 
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To: opensuse@opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [opensuse] OpenSuse 10.2 x86_64 RAM disk & server lock ups

On Tuesday 03 April 2007, David Wilson wrote:
> If I disable the RAM disk and record the conversation straight to hard
disk
> then everything is fine - the servers do not lock up. Unfortunately I have
> to use the RAM disk due to performance issues with writing the recordings
> straight to disk.

It would seem that a deadlock would itself qualify as a performance issue. 

What is the underlying file structure?  Could you not choose
a different one with better performance?  How about
splitting the disk up so that not all recordings contend for
the same disks/controllers?

When you write from ramdisk, you incur another massive
demand for memory as the fast ramdisk dumps onto the 
file system infrastructure which, of course can't keep up
and therefore it starts demanding memory for buffers, etc.
How much memory have you reserved for that?

Have you looked into a raw file system for disk writes?  
(There was a time when raw file systems were common, 
but disk performance has moved beyond that now for the most part.)

Have you looked at offloading disk writes to other machines
via giga-bit ethernet or fiber?



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Re: [opensuse] Help Widescreen 1680x1050, Intel 915G can't get display configured

[david rankin]

From: "Sunny"

On 3/28/07, david rankin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Mates.

I have a new Acer AL2216W that runs native at 1680x1050. The install 
is

Suse 10 with xorg-x11-6.8.2-100.2. The video card supports 1680x1050


Oh man, I just saw what you are using ... so bad luck. I ordered one
of these monitors just 10 minutes before your first post. And I'm
running 10.0 on my desktop ...

Ok, lets try to fix it :)

Does your graphics driver provides an option to disable EDID? nVidia's
one has it. That way you tell exactly what you want from the driver,
and it does not query the monitor for the specs. I had to do this in
order to use my 16:9 lcd tv in this max resolution.



Not that I can find.


Btw, what is the video card. Did you post on their forums? Did you try
xorg forums?



The card is an Intel 915G and I have posted the problem on xorg. The 
suggestions I have gotten in the past hour is:


"You should try the 2.0 release candidate versions of the intel driver 
(available from X.org FTP). They are capable of programming modes
natively on Intel graphics hardware instead of relying on the video BIOS to 
do it. I am using the latest 1.9.93 release on a G965 and an 855GM

(i830-generation) without any issues so far."

I have downloaded xf86-video-intel-1.9.93 but I have not compiled it yet 
because I need to figure out the ./configure options for the PREFIX and
EPREFIX directories for SuSE 10.0. It looks like PREFIX should be just 
"/usr" because that is where X11 is. What do you think??


Keep the faith, we will find it. This really is a beautiful monitor at the 
right resolution. M$ confirms this. Right now, mine just extends 4 inches 
beyond the physical display on Suse 10.



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Re: [opensuse] Tape backup? - slightly OT

[jdd]

Carlos E. R. wrote:

I wasn't aware you could buy the platter separately, and insert it into a 
drive bought without platter.


zip drives, jazz ones, and now DVD, bluray... all reading sequencially.

tapes are good as long as you don't need the data...

jdd


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Re: [opensuse] Tape backup? - slightly OT

[Carlos E. R.]

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The Tuesday 2007-04-03 at 07:44 -0700, Randall R Schulz wrote:

> On Tuesday 03 April 2007 02:10, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> > ...
> >
> > By the way, I just seen for the home market HD external boxes with an
> > ethernet port: small cpu + some memory. Some support some kind of ftp
> > or http server,
> 
> NFS and / or CIFS are usually the primary file access protocols and 
> administration is typically done via a Web-based interface, just as 
> routers, DSL and cable modems typically are.

I saw one or two with FTP.


> > some have some kind of security, some support linux 
> > clients, other only windows. Still too green, IMO, but interesting.
> 
> "Too green?" As in too new to trust? 

No, no. Too few models to chose. At the places I looked on the net nearby 
I saw only four models - I mean for home use, not for "serious" or 
"big" usage. Maybe you have seen more?

And I miss features like a firewall, user auth, suport for linux 
filesystems withs permissions and attributes (ie, not forced to use FAT), 
etc.

They are new in the market, then. Green.

> I tend to think not, since there's 
> no advanced technology in them. Just a small, low-power computer with 
> an Ethernet interface, some disks, a power supply and a smidgeon of 
> custom software. I'll bet most of them use nearly 100% open-source 
> software--they certainly could get almost all the required software off 
> the open-source shelf.

I know. Or I guess. But one of the four models was for windows only.

> I wonder if I could make my TiVO double as a backup server?

X-)

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Re: [opensuse] what a great media player

[kanenas]

On Tuesday 03 April 2007, Felix Miata wrote:
> On 2007/04/03 08:36 (GMT-0500) dwain apparently typed:
> > Felix Miata wrote:
> >> On 2007/04/03 07:45 (GMT-0500) dwain apparently typed:
> >>> Felix Miata wrote:
>  vlc refuses to do anything other than open, close, and switch
>  the equalizer on and off.
> >>>
> >>> To view
> >>> your dvd select File/Open Disc.  Make sure your dvd player is in the
> >>> Customize box under Advanced Options and clik OK.  The DVD should start
> >>> shortly after that.
> >>
> >> Did you read what I wrote?
> >
> > Then I miss understood what you meant.  What more did you expect?
>
> Something about diagnosing why only two buttons do anything would have been
> nice.
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the suse mplayer at packman should address the "missing font" issue, the error 
comes up on just about all standard installs. had that fixed once or twice by 
copying a font to the .mplayer home dir, i think, don't remember for sure. 
xine and Kaffeine and vlc and mplayer & co are all installed in my systems 
but still there are videos that require windoze for viewing... it must be a 
conspiracy to counter libdvdcss...
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Re: [opensuse] Tape backup? - slightly OT

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The Tuesday 2007-04-03 at 10:30 -0800, John Andersen wrote:

> > That there are no electronics in a tape?  Take one apart sometime, there
> > isn't.
> 
> There are no electronics in a disk PLATTER either.

John, that's grasping at straws.

I wasn't aware you could buy the platter separately, and insert it into a 
drive bought without platter.

HD have electronics. You transport the thing whole. Tapes are tapes, have 
no electronics. You insert the tape into a box that has.

> In either disk or tape, its not the electronics that are the problem.

It is indeed. When you transport a backup in a HD, its electronics is 
vulnerable. You can have several tapes drives to read the same tape: if 
the electronics breaks in one, you can have another one.

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Re: [opensuse] Tape backup? - slightly OT

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The Tuesday 2007-04-03 at 10:20 -0400, Greg Freemyer wrote:


...
> There are 2 categories of tape, those with a manufacturer's alignment
> track and those without.
> 
> Those with should also survive a multi-foot drop onto concrete.  Those
> without will likely not survive.  The reason is that the actual tape
> itself will move slightly after such a drop.  Without an alignment
> track the drive will likely be unable to read the data from the proper
> location.

I would have thought that the recorded tracks hold enough info for a good 
reader to align itself, same as video tape players do. I thought the 
technology would be more advanced.

> FYI: Media that has an alignment track laid down by the manufacturer
> will be destroyed by using a tape degausser, so a quick test to see if
> your drive uses an alignment track is to take a tape media you plan to
> throw-out and run a $30 tape degauser across it.  If the tape fails to
> work at all, then you had an alignment track.

Funny that the drive can not create the alignment track.

Cheers,
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[opensuse] OT: Monitoring uptime, downtime/uptime, reboots, availability/stability of Suse Linux servers

[Rejaine Monteiro]

Hi all,

This is off-topic, but maybe someone can help me..

I need to monitor uptime, downtime/uptime and  reboots for all my Suse 
Linux servers and show for all users in a simple way all statistics of 
servers avalilibity/stability


I'm using Nagios to monitor servers, hardware and services, but for 
final users, is to *complicade explain the Nagios  availibity report 
(and all dependences off hosts, network, services)


I need some more simple, like this: 
http://www.mreriksson.net/uptimes/viewhost/?1384

*

Any tip??

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Re: [opensuse] Weird KDE Crash

[Sunny]

On 4/3/07, Jay Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




Let me give you a little background. I have recently been having CPU fan errors
and as you know, when it goes out, my CPU overheats and computer locks up.
Reluctantly, I have to reboot the computer the hard way. Now, I have done that 
no
more than 20 times in it's life (or at least since i've had this problem, don't
kno the exact number). Anyways, now I get an error that says "KLauncher could 
not
be reached via DCOP" whenever I click my desktop or taskbar icons. In addition 
to
that, any KDE keyboard command I use gives me the same error (Ctrl+Esc for
Ksysguard). I also can't run any programs. If I got to the KMenu and click YaST
or Firefox, it doesn't even attempt to open it. This problem happened right 
after
the latest hard reboot. Any ideas as to what might fix it? I really don't want 
to
have to reinstall. Thanks all.


You can try:
rescue system from the install CD/DVD
run fsck on all partitions
delete everything in /tmp (your system /tmp, not the rescue system
in-memory /tmp)
delete all in /var/run and /var/tmp (again, the "real" direcotries,
not the ones used by the rescue system)
in your home directory, see if files like .DC* exist and delete them
(do not forget the leading period)
in your home directory/.kde there are a bunch of symlinks to files and
folders in /tmp, delete them.

Reboot

This should remove almost all not well written/damaged files which may
cause KDE to not work.

I may miss something, so others can add to this.

Also - for recovery purposes - when I say "delete" actually I mean -
rename the directories to something else, and recreate them with the
old names. i.e. rename /tmp to /tmp.old, and create /tmp, etc. That
way, if something goes wrong, you can recover to the current state.

Cheers

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Re: [opensuse]] Win vs Lin info

[Carl William Spitzer IV]

On Wed, 2007-03-21 at 17:48 +, Russell Jones wrote:
> >   
> Don't confuse certainty with ideology. Hedge your bets and you won't be 
> wrong. But you won't be right either. I know MS is appropriate in 
> certain situations. But one needs to take their strategy and the 
> distortions they create to further that into account when making 
> decisions about their products. And don't forget that shareholders and 
> stakeholders in MS have an ideology, best summarised as "$$$". That's 
> normal, but one shouldn't pretend it's not an ideology.


Long ago about 2000 years we were warned we could not serve both GOD and
Bill Gates.
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Re: [opensuse] Adding biometric security to a computer

[Carl William Spitzer IV]

An African charity my church works does micro loans to help really small
businesses.  These are not cash but small bank accounts secured with
cards, passwords and fingerprint readers which also check for a pulse.
This last eliminating the cut finger risk and well publicized to save
the customers from both kinds of loss.

I do not know if they use OS2 for the bank computer or Linux likely the
former due to obscurity.

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Re: [opensuse] making mplayer work

[Jan Tiggy]

JB2 wrote:

>   Keep your political views off the list.

Yeah sure 'coz you say so. Sue me ;-)
For my part this topic is closed!
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Re: [opensuse] Help Killling Process

[Carl William Spitzer IV]

Gnome System Monitor also works great.

On one machine I use Gnome a lot so It helps to have something handy on
the tool bar.  I keep it on the lower one.

CWSIV

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Re: [opensuse] making mplayer work

[JB2]

On 03 April 07 06:57, Jan Tiggy wrote:

  

> But be careful while downloading. Few files, especially libdvdcss,
> might violate some King George's Acts and AFAIK Alabama still conduct
> capital punishment...

  Keep your political views off the list.

> 
> thx
> Jan

  Yeah, whatever.
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Re: [opensuse] Tape backup? - slightly OT

[John Andersen]

On Tuesday 03 April 2007, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 10:04 -0800, John Andersen wrote:
> > On Tuesday 03 April 2007, Ralf Müller wrote:
> > > There is much less fragile
> > > mechanics in it, there is no electronics in it ...
> >
> > Who are you trying to kid?
>
> That there are no electronics in a tape?  Take one apart sometime, there
> isn't.

There are no electronics in a disk PLATTER either.

Tape drives are far more mechanically complex and finicky than disk drives.
They have just as much electronics.

In either disk or tape, its not the electronics that are the problem.



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Re: [opensuse] Tape backup? - slightly OT

[John Andersen]

On Tuesday 03 April 2007, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
> But if you want to have 50+ USB chassis with hard drives to cycle your
> backup on then by all means.  

And if you purchase eggs in a sac you will see breakage as well.

You keep putting forth this idea that hard drives should be moved
around and plugged into something like they were tape cartridges.

You really MUST expand your horizons.


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Re: [opensuse] Tape backup? - slightly OT

[Adam Tauno Williams]

On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 10:04 -0800, John Andersen wrote:
> On Tuesday 03 April 2007, Ralf Müller wrote:
> > There is much less fragile  
> > mechanics in it, there is no electronics in it ...
> Who are you trying to kid?

That there are no electronics in a tape?  Take one apart sometime, there
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Re: [opensuse] Tape backup? - slightly OT

[Adam Tauno Williams]

> > > Next time we need to change backup system we will go to USB/eSATA  
> > > disks - one disk for each tape media we currently have in use:
> > > Pro:
> > > - you don't need an expensive tape-drive
> > > - you can already have 1TB per media
> > You can get 1TB drives?  
> Yes.  Advertised in the Sunday paper at Fry's in Austin TX.
> Maxtor 1TB Triple Interface External Hard Drive C01W010, also available in
> 1.5TB capacity.  See:
> http://shop1.outpost.com/product/4924381?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

And cost effective?  No way.  Not unless one copy counts as a backup;
it certainly won't cut it in the corporate world,  absolutely not in any
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Re: [opensuse] Tape backup? - slightly OT

[Adam Tauno Williams]

> FYI: Media that has an alignment track laid down by the manufacturer
> will be destroyed by using a tape degausser, so a quick test to see if
> your drive uses an alignment track is to take a tape media you plan to
> throw-out and run a $30 tape degauser across it.  If the tape fails to
> work at all, then you had an alignment track.
> 
> FYI2: I don't know if most tape drives today have alignment capability
> or not.  I do know that DDR4 type drives of 10 years ago did not.  And
> the LTO-1 drives I use do.

I've demonstrated, multiple times, dropping an LTO tape from waist
height, kicking it across the floor so that it bounces of the wall,
inserting it into a drive and reading data.  Do that with a HD in a
USB caddy.  Modern tape, unless you crush the enclosure, is just this
side of impervious.

But if you want to have 50+ USB chassis with hard drives to cycle your
backup on then by all means.  If you believe you will have less failures
then with tape I can't help but think your nuts.

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Re: [opensuse] Communicating with Vista

[John Andersen]

On Tuesday 03 April 2007, Matthias Titeux wrote:
> Le Lundi 19 Mars 2007 00:35, Paul Abrahams a écrit :
> > I just got a new laptop with Vista preinstalled (I'm sure I'm hardly the
> > only one).  Apparently Vista has trouble communicating with Windows XP,
> > and the XP solution is to install a protocol called LLTP.  A Google
> > search revealed that there's been some effort to make LLTP
> > Linux-compatible, but the only information I could find about that was
> > intended for developers.
> >
> > Has anyone here succeeded in establishing network visibility with Vista,
> > in either or both directions?
> >
> > Paul
>
> Nope !
>
> I wanted to share files between my old laptop (Win XP + Opensuse 10.2) and
> the new one (Vista (unfortunately)). I set up a direct connection between
> the 2 computers through wireless, and i never was able to see the other
> computer from either machines. I thought, I did something wrong (not an
> expert on wifi gadget and windows ;-)) but it might be that new vista
> "feature" ! I wil dig a little further when time will be available.

Yes, I share files between Suse 10.2 (Samba) and Vista with no 
problem.  In a working samba environment, just plugging in a Vista
machine (with appropriate passwords of course) worked perfectly.




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Re: [opensuse] Tape backup? - slightly OT

[John Andersen]

On Tuesday 03 April 2007, Ralf Müller wrote:
> There is much less fragile  
> mechanics in it, there is no electronics in it ...

Who are you trying to kid?



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Re: [opensuse] Weird KDE Crash

[John Andersen]

On Tuesday 03 April 2007, Carl Hartung wrote:
> You really should have dealt with
> the overheating problem as soon as you diagnosed it instead of suffering
> through "20" hard reboots. They *can* and do frequently damage
> installations and cause data loss.

Not to mention loss of CPUs...

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Re: [opensuse] Weird KDE Crash

[Carl Hartung]

On Tue April 3 2007 12:08, Jay Smith wrote:

> This problem happened right after the latest hard
> reboot. Any ideas as to what might fix it? I really don't want to have to
> reinstall. Thanks all.

Hi Jay,

There's nothing "weird" about it... the filesystem has not been shut down 
correctly. When this happens, temporary files are not cleaned up, open files 
are left open instead of being properly closed and in-process writes-to-disk 
are truncated and files lost or corrupted. You really should have dealt with 
the overheating problem as soon as you diagnosed it instead of suffering 
through "20" hard reboots. They *can* and do frequently damage installations 
and cause data loss.

Google, 'man' and 'info' really are your friends in this case, I'm afraid. The 
recovery process is detailed, can be tedious and is usually fraught with 
caveats and pitfalls. That's why so much time, effort and trouble go into a) 
employing regular backups and/or b) implementing technologies like mirroring 
and RAID.

Fortunately, it is also extremely well documented in your 'user guide' 
or 'reference book' or 'admin guide'... whatever they're calling it these 
days. You can also search the SUSE mailing list archives here:

opensuse: http://marc.info/?l=opensuse&r=1&w=2
suse-linux-e: http://marc.info/?l=suse-linux-e&r=1&w=2

Look for threads containing phrases like 'power failure', 'rescue 
mode', 'repair system', etc. There's a wealth of help maintained there for 
just these kinds of circumstances.

hth & good luck!

Carl
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Re: [opensuse] Communicating with Vista

[Catimimi]

Paul Abrahams a écrit :
I just got a new laptop with Vista preinstalled (I'm sure I'm hardly the only 
one).  Apparently Vista has trouble communicating with Windows XP, and the XP 
solution is to install a protocol called LLTP.  A Google search revealed that 
there's been some effort to make LLTP Linux-compatible, but the only 
information I could find about that was intended for developers.


Has anyone here succeeded in establishing network visibility with Vista, in 
either or both directions?


Paul
  


Hello,

I have no problem in order to communicate between a Vista computer and a 
XP computer.
Each computer see the other one and I'm able to create, copy delete 
files without any

problem.
I'll try to explain what I did, but as I'm french please excuse my poor 
english !


As I don't want to allow everybody (ie children) to share my files I 
don't use normal sharing
in XP and instead I gave permissions on a user basis. If you do that and 
if you are logged on
both computers with the same name and password, I'm able to see my files 
from XP, from Vista
and from Linux. I just logged with my wife login and password, she can 
see my XP computer, but
is not able to enter the shared folders and she doesn't see the Vista 
computer !!


So do use user based sharings, and log with the same name and password.

Hoping to have replied to the question.

Michel.


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Re: [opensuse] Tape backup? - slightly OT

[Jeffrey Taylor]

Quoting Adam Tauno Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
[snip]
> > Next time we need to change backup system we will go to USB/eSATA  
> > disks - one disk for each tape media we currently have in use:
> > Pro:
> > - you don't need an expensive tape-drive
> > - you can already have 1TB per media
> 
> You can get 1TB drives?  

Yes.  Advertised in the Sunday paper at Fry's in Austin TX.

Maxtor 1TB Triple Interface External Hard Drive C01W010, also available in
1.5TB capacity.  See:

http://shop1.outpost.com/product/4924381?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG
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[opensuse] Weird KDE Crash

[Jay Smith]

Let me give you a little background. I have recently been having CPU fan errors
and as you know, when it goes out, my CPU overheats and computer locks up.
Reluctantly, I have to reboot the computer the hard way. Now, I have done that 
no
more than 20 times in it's life (or at least since i've had this problem, don't
kno the exact number). Anyways, now I get an error that says "KLauncher could 
not
be reached via DCOP" whenever I click my desktop or taskbar icons. In addition 
to
that, any KDE keyboard command I use gives me the same error (Ctrl+Esc for
Ksysguard). I also can't run any programs. If I got to the KMenu and click YaST
or Firefox, it doesn't even attempt to open it. This problem happened right 
after
the latest hard reboot. Any ideas as to what might fix it? I really don't want 
to
have to reinstall. Thanks all. 
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Re: [opensuse] what a great media player

[Felix Miata]

On 2007/04/03 08:36 (GMT-0500) dwain apparently typed:

> Felix Miata wrote:

>> On 2007/04/03 07:45 (GMT-0500) dwain apparently typed:

>>> Felix Miata wrote:

 vlc refuses to do anything other than open, close, and switch
 the equalizer on and off.

>>> To view
>>> your dvd select File/Open Disc.  Make sure your dvd player is in the
>>> Customize box under Advanced Options and clik OK.  The DVD should start
>>> shortly after that.

>> Did you read what I wrote?

> Then I miss understood what you meant.  What more did you expect?

Something about diagnosing why only two buttons do anything would have been
nice.
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Re: [opensuse] Communicating with Vista

[John Pierce]

>> I just got a new laptop with Vista preinstalled (I'm sure I'm hardly the
>> only one).


I got one too, the first thing I did was insert my OpenSuSE 10.2
bootable dvd and wipe out vista completely (including the recovery
partition).

The best way to communicate with vista, DON'T.

If I could have gotten the machine that I wanted with out windows
preinstalled I would have not paid the ms tax completely.

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Re: [opensuse] Tape backup? - slightly OT

[Randall R Schulz]

On Tuesday 03 April 2007 02:10, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> ...
>
> By the way, I just seen for the home market HD external boxes with an
> ethernet port: small cpu + some memory. Some support some kind of ftp
> or http server,

NFS and / or CIFS are usually the primary file access protocols and 
administration is typically done via a Web-based interface, just as 
routers, DSL and cable modems typically are.


> some have some kind of security, some support linux 
> clients, other only windows. Still too green, IMO, but interesting.

"Too green?" As in too new to trust? I tend to think not, since there's 
no advanced technology in them. Just a small, low-power computer with 
an Ethernet interface, some disks, a power supply and a smidgeon of 
custom software. I'll bet most of them use nearly 100% open-source 
software--they certainly could get almost all the required software off 
the open-source shelf.


I wonder if I could make my TiVO double as a backup server?


Randall schulz
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Re: [opensuse] Communicating with Vista

[Martin J Hooper]

Matthias Titeux wrote:

Le Lundi 19 Mars 2007 00:35, Paul Abrahams a écrit :

I just got a new laptop with Vista preinstalled (I'm sure I'm hardly the
only one).  Apparently Vista has trouble communicating with Windows XP, and
the XP solution is to install a protocol called LLTP.  A Google search
revealed that there's been some effort to make LLTP Linux-compatible, but
the only information I could find about that was intended for developers.

Has anyone here succeeded in establishing network visibility with Vista, in
either or both directions?


I can see and use a Debian Samba server if that helps.  Otherwise 
can't help I'm afraid.



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Re: [opensuse] what a great media player

[Steve Jeppesen]

On Tue, 03 Apr 2007 08:27:44 -0400
Felix Miata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I've been thoroughly displeased with Kaffeine, so upon seeing this
> thread I immediately installed vlc. 10.2/packman/guru installation
> seemed to go normally, but vlc refuses to do anything other than
> open, close, and switch the equalizer on and off. So I'm still
> looking for a Linux DVD player that isn't a POS.

I use both Totum and MPlayer to play dvd's with no problems at all.
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Re: [opensuse] Tape backup? - slightly OT

[Greg Freemyer]

On 4/3/07, Ralf Müller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Am 03.04.2007 um 11:10 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
> In theory a HD electronics can break down. In the same
> circumstances with
> removable media, the media itself can survive, you just replace the
> drive
> and recover the data. There are more things that can break down in a
> drive. In practice... :-?

If it is the only backup left and you really want to recover data
from it you can replace the drive electronics too. But yes - a tape
media _is_ more robust then a hard disk. There is much less fragile
mechanics in it, there is no electronics in it ...


I'm a big fan of tape for multi-year backups, but you need to be
careful with a generic statement that tape is more robust than disk.

IIRC, most HDs today are rated for 30 G's of acceleration.  That is
the equivalent of the impact you get if you drop it from several feet
onto a concrete floor. (ie. from waist height)

There are 2 categories of tape, those with a manufacturer's alignment
track and those without.

Those with should also survive a multi-foot drop onto concrete.  Those
without will likely not survive.  The reason is that the actual tape
itself will move slightly after such a drop.  Without an alignment
track the drive will likely be unable to read the data from the proper
location.

With an alignment track and the associated extra drive head and drive
positioning motors etc. (ie. $$) the drive should simply move the
read/write heads to adjust for the actual position of the tape.

FYI: Media that has an alignment track laid down by the manufacturer
will be destroyed by using a tape degausser, so a quick test to see if
your drive uses an alignment track is to take a tape media you plan to
throw-out and run a $30 tape degauser across it.  If the tape fails to
work at all, then you had an alignment track.

FYI2: I don't know if most tape drives today have alignment capability
or not.  I do know that DDR4 type drives of 10 years ago did not.  And
the LTO-1 drives I use do.

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Re: [opensuse] Communicating with Vista

[Matthias Titeux]

Le Lundi 19 Mars 2007 00:35, Paul Abrahams a écrit :
> I just got a new laptop with Vista preinstalled (I'm sure I'm hardly the
> only one).  Apparently Vista has trouble communicating with Windows XP, and
> the XP solution is to install a protocol called LLTP.  A Google search
> revealed that there's been some effort to make LLTP Linux-compatible, but
> the only information I could find about that was intended for developers.
>
> Has anyone here succeeded in establishing network visibility with Vista, in
> either or both directions?
>
> Paul

Nope !

I wanted to share files between my old laptop (Win XP + Opensuse 10.2) and the 
new one (Vista (unfortunately)). I set up a direct connection between the 2 
computers through wireless, and i never was able to see the other computer 
from either machines. I thought, I did something wrong (not an expert on wifi 
gadget and windows ;-)) but it might be that new vista "feature" !
I wil dig a little further when time will be available.

Cheers.

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Re: [opensuse] what a great media player

[dwain]

Felix Miata wrote:
> On 2007/04/03 07:45 (GMT-0500) dwain apparently typed:
>
>   
>> Felix Miata wrote:
>> 
>
>   
>>> vlc refuses to do anything other than open, close, and switch
>>> the equalizer on and off.
>>>   
>
>   
>> To view
>> your dvd select File/Open Disc.  Make sure your dvd player is in the
>> Customize box under Advanced Options and clik OK.  The DVD should start
>> shortly after that.
>> 
>
> Did you read what I wrote?
>   
Then I miss understood what you meant.  What more did you expect?

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Re: [opensuse] what a great media player

[Felix Miata]

On 2007/04/03 07:45 (GMT-0500) dwain apparently typed:

> Felix Miata wrote:

>> vlc refuses to do anything other than open, close, and switch
>> the equalizer on and off.

> To view
> your dvd select File/Open Disc.  Make sure your dvd player is in the
> Customize box under Advanced Options and clik OK.  The DVD should start
> shortly after that.

Did you read what I wrote?
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Re: [opensuse] what a great media player

[Hudibras]

El mar, 03-04-2007 a las 08:27 -0400, Felix Miata escribió:
> On 2007/04/03 03:03 (GMT-0500) dwain apparently typed:
> 
> > You can have amtrax and kaffine and xmms.  The best media player out
> > there is vlc.  I have it on my Windows box and now I have it for Linux;
> > and I thought it was only for Windows.  Encrypted DVDs, no problem. 
> > It's got all the codecs you need.  I'm one happy newbie Linux user.  Got
> > my jazz radio going on and passing on some hopefully good information. 
> > If you want it Google, vlc project; the download and install
> > instructions are all there.
> 
> I've been thoroughly displeased with Kaffeine, so upon seeing this thread I
> immediately installed vlc. 10.2/packman/guru installation seemed to go
> normally, but vlc refuses to do anything other than open, close, and switch
> the equalizer on and off. So I'm still looking for a Linux DVD player that
> isn't a POS.

Have you tried 'smplayer'? Though based upon mplayer, it's a very good
app for DVD. Guru's site. 

Alejandro.


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Re: [opensuse] what a great media player

[dwain]

Hudibras wrote:
> El mar, 03-04-2007 a las 06:55 -0500, dwain escribió:
>   
>> Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> 
>>> The Tuesday 2007-04-03 at 04:50 -0500, dwain wrote:
>>>
>>>   
>
> Vlc is a very great multimedia player, maybe the best one. I can play
> all type of files, and it never complains at all. 
>
> Xine engine is good, but not great; IMHO, gstreamer is better than
> xine. 
>
> By the way... I'm losing links in Konqueror bookmarks again. I haven't
> said anything about it until today, but when I opened Konqueror to see
> what's new over there, I saw those links removed again. But that's a
> problem of mine, I know. So far I haven't found any rootkit at all,
> so... Is this a cotinuous hard disk failure or I like harming myself
> deleting and deleting some links in a unconscious way or with my eyes
> and ears closed? 
>
> Cheers,
> Alejandro (Ortega)
>
>
>   
You've got to be doing it to yourself unconciously or your getting ready
for a big crash.

Cheers,
Dwain

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Re: [opensuse] what a great media player

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> I appreciate the recommendation of xine though.

Welcome. We each have our preferred apps. :-)

By the way, xine also finds the needed codec automatically, if it is in 
the system; if it is not, play fails without me knowing which is the codec 
I missed.

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Re: [opensuse] what a great media player

[dwain]

Felix Miata wrote:
> On 2007/04/03 03:03 (GMT-0500) dwain apparently typed:
>
>   
>> You can have amtrax and kaffine and xmms.  The best media player out
>> there is vlc.  I have it on my Windows box and now I have it for Linux;
>> and I thought it was only for Windows.  Encrypted DVDs, no problem. 
>> It's got all the codecs you need.  I'm one happy newbie Linux user.  Got
>> my jazz radio going on and passing on some hopefully good information. 
>> If you want it Google, vlc project; the download and install
>> instructions are all there.
>> 
>
> I've been thoroughly displeased with Kaffeine, so upon seeing this thread I
> immediately installed vlc. 10.2/packman/guru installation seemed to go
> normally, but vlc refuses to do anything other than open, close, and switch
> the equalizer on and off. So I'm still looking for a Linux DVD player that
> isn't a POS.
>   
I got my install from the download instructions at
http://www.videolan.org/  They have the latest version 0.86.1a.  To view
your dvd select File/Open Disc.  Make sure your dvd player is in the
Customize box under Advanced Options and clik OK.  The DVD should start
shortly after that.

Cheers,
Dwain

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Re: [opensuse] what a great media player

[Jan Tiggy]

dwain wrote:

> But I'm not interested in a multimedia program flame war. We all have
> our preferences and use what works for us. Some like Koffice and others
> like Open Office. Some like xine, others Mplayer and I have found that
> VLC meets my needs. I guess that's what it's all about. Windows or Linux
> (whatever flavor floats your boat).
> 
> I appreciate the recommendation of xine though.

It's not a flame war. I hope.. But I just tried to point out that vlc
IMO ain't a killer application for linux. In time you will see that gnu
proggies are mostly dedicated to a very specific tasks. You will find
some great for dvd ripping, for converting to other formats, listening
music and radio or watching dvb-(s,c,t) etc. Vlc suits some of my needs
but not all of them. For other needs I found IMO better alternatives.
But as always, you shall fell free to do it the way appropriate to you.

thx
Jan
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Re: [opensuse] what a great media player

[Felix Miata]

On 2007/04/03 03:03 (GMT-0500) dwain apparently typed:

> You can have amtrax and kaffine and xmms.  The best media player out
> there is vlc.  I have it on my Windows box and now I have it for Linux;
> and I thought it was only for Windows.  Encrypted DVDs, no problem. 
> It's got all the codecs you need.  I'm one happy newbie Linux user.  Got
> my jazz radio going on and passing on some hopefully good information. 
> If you want it Google, vlc project; the download and install
> instructions are all there.

I've been thoroughly displeased with Kaffeine, so upon seeing this thread I
immediately installed vlc. 10.2/packman/guru installation seemed to go
normally, but vlc refuses to do anything other than open, close, and switch
the equalizer on and off. So I'm still looking for a Linux DVD player that
isn't a POS.
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Re: [opensuse] what a great media player

[Hudibras]

El mar, 03-04-2007 a las 06:55 -0500, dwain escribió:
> Carlos E. R. wrote:
> >
> > The Tuesday 2007-04-03 at 04:50 -0500, dwain wrote:
> >

Vlc is a very great multimedia player, maybe the best one. I can play
all type of files, and it never complains at all. 

Xine engine is good, but not great; IMHO, gstreamer is better than
xine. 

By the way... I'm losing links in Konqueror bookmarks again. I haven't
said anything about it until today, but when I opened Konqueror to see
what's new over there, I saw those links removed again. But that's a
problem of mine, I know. So far I haven't found any rootkit at all,
so... Is this a cotinuous hard disk failure or I like harming myself
deleting and deleting some links in a unconscious way or with my eyes
and ears closed? 

Cheers,
Alejandro (Ortega)


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Re: [opensuse] Tape backup? - slightly OT

[Ralf Müller]

Am 03.04.2007 um 11:10 schrieb Carlos E. R.:

You can get 1TB drives?


Ok - give it 3 month ... :


rumored not to be as reliable as "normal" sizes, yet.


This may be. The Hitachi drives are not released yet. But to speak  
for these 750GB Segate drives, which are the same technology: I have  
some of these in use
and they seem to be not less reliable as other drives - no broken  
disk yet.

Knock on wood.

In theory a HD electronics can break down. In the same  
circumstances with
removable media, the media itself can survive, you just replace the  
drive

and recover the data. There are more things that can break down in a
drive. In practice... :-?


If it is the only backup left and you really want to recover data  
from it you can replace the drive electronics too. But yes - a tape  
media _is_ more robust then a hard disk. There is much less fragile  
mechanics in it, there is no electronics in it ...


But there are other drawbacks with tapes: most small companies don't  
have a
second tape drive in house. If their server dies and takes the tape  
drive with
it you have to get such a drive to recover - depending on situation,  
this may

take days.

The point is - you need to check your use cases and possible  
alternatives and
their risks. And for our usage (and for the use cases of most of the  
small
companies I know about) a tape drive is much less interesting then  
something
like a set of USB disks/a remote archive server/a nice little home  
NAS ...


When you are admin and you choose a tape drive you are save - even if  
it fails

you did _the_right_thing(tm)_. But if the question is not to do
_the_right_thing(tm)_ but to simply keep all the stuff up and  
running, you
may want to have a look at the alternatives - you may save money,  
gain uptime

and make your and the life of your users easier.

Just my two cents
Ralf

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Re: [opensuse] making mplayer work

[dwain]

Jan Tiggy wrote:
> dwain wrote:
>
>   
>> How do I get the program to read the dvd?  what audio and video codecs
>> should I use?
>> 
>
> First of all if you want a multimedia SUSE then you need additional
> repositories:
>
> - packman (libxine1, w32codec, xvid, mplayer, mencoder, KMplayer,
> Mplayer, Kaffeine, vdr, vlc)
> ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/packman/suse/10.2/
> - guru: (amarok, smplayer)
> ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/suser-guru/rpm/10.2/RPMS/
> - vlc: (libdvdcss)
> http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/vlc/latest/SuSE/10.2/
> - nonoss: (realplayer)
> ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/distribution/10.2/repo/non-oss/suse/
>
> Just download the packages mentioned in the brackets.
>
> But be careful while downloading. Few files, especially libdvdcss,
> might violate some King George's Acts and AFAIK Alabama still conduct
> capital punishment...
>
> thx
> Jan
>
>
>
>   
Yeah, they still use Yellow Mama every now and then.

Cheers,
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Re: [opensuse] openoffice with nvidia X angs when press menu

[Nate Pearlstein]

Carlos E. R. wrote:
>
> The Monday 2007-04-02 at 21:45 -0400, Nate Pearlstein wrote:
>
> >> There are some options in OOo to disable 3D that might help.
> >>
> > I have tried /usr/lib/ooo-2.0/program/soffice uncommenting export
> > SAL_NOOPENGL=true;
> > to no avail.  Are there some more 3d variables soemwhere?
>
> If you can get here (perhaps using the open nvidia driver),
> menu: tool/options/OOo/-> 3D view, graphics output
>
> I wasn't aware of comand line options.
>
There do seem to be more toggles in the menu you mentioned.  I've turned
them all off, well see how it goes from there.  Thanks!

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Re: [opensuse] making mplayer work

[Jan Tiggy]

dwain wrote:

> How do I get the program to read the dvd?  what audio and video codecs
> should I use?

First of all if you want a multimedia SUSE then you need additional
repositories:

- packman (libxine1, w32codec, xvid, mplayer, mencoder, KMplayer,
Mplayer, Kaffeine, vdr, vlc)
ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/packman/suse/10.2/
- guru: (amarok, smplayer)
ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/suser-guru/rpm/10.2/RPMS/
- vlc: (libdvdcss)
http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/vlc/latest/SuSE/10.2/
- nonoss: (realplayer)
ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/distribution/10.2/repo/non-oss/suse/

Just download the packages mentioned in the brackets.

But be careful while downloading. Few files, especially libdvdcss,
might violate some King George's Acts and AFAIK Alabama still conduct
capital punishment...

thx
Jan



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Re: [opensuse] what a great media player

[dwain]

Carlos E. R. wrote:
>
> The Tuesday 2007-04-03 at 04:50 -0500, dwain wrote:
>
> > I'll have to try mplayer then.
>
> You can also try xine - with the added benefit that kafeine and amarok
> (and more) use the xine-lib engine.
>
Well, i tried Mplayer and I couldn't get it to work. As with Jan, who
had a bad experience with VLC and won't use it, I had a not so good
experience with Mplayer and uninstalled it. I figured out why I was
getting a hiss through my headphones and corrected the problem. When I
played the DVD again in VLC it ran perfectly, well as perfectly as my
ATI Rage 128 would let it be; but the hiss was gone and the audio
sounded great. A video card with more memory would allow the video to be
stable all the way through, but 32MB of on board RAM isn't enough to
handle full motion video without the occasional video freeze.

It seems to me that VLC chooses the proper codec for the media it plays,
unlike Mplayer where you must choose the codec you want, and if it's not
the correct one, well... I actually use VLC as a radio receiver. I have
too many choices of radio stations from Shoutcast, but that's ok. VLC
has been a tried and proven program on Windows and running the current
version on opensuse Linux has proven not to be a disappointment as it
has to other two users who have commented on what I thought was a great
find.

But I'm not interested in a multimedia program flame war. We all have
our preferences and use what works for us. Some like Koffice and others
like Open Office. Some like xine, others Mplayer and I have found that
VLC meets my needs. I guess that's what it's all about. Windows or Linux
(whatever flavor floats your boat).

I appreciate the recommendation of xine though.

Cheers,
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Re: [opensuse] Resolvable NetworkManager, transaction failed

[Verner Kjærsgaard]

Tirsdag 03 april 2007 13:26 skrev James Knott:
> Verner Kjærsgaard wrote:
> > Hi list...
> >
> > Oh, this update thingy.
> >
> > On my SUSE102. the small taskbar icon is orange. I click to update, get a
> > list of updates and I proceed. I accept the stuff to upgrade and then I
> > get:
> >
> > "Transactions failed: Resolvable NetworkManager 0.6.4-51
> > (http://ftp.uni-kl.de/pub/linux/suse/update/10.2) not found."
> >
> > Sigh.
> >
> > The machine is connected to the internet (of course) and using firefox
> > and the above URL will give me a fine looking index with 3 directories...
> >
> > repodata/
> > rpm/
> > scripts/
> >
> > Eh, now what?
>
> I've noticed many problems with the Software Updater.  Currently I'm
> getting out of disk space errors, even though df shows plenty availalbe.
> (120G in this system).  I find that while it does sometimes work, there
> are enough problems with Software Updater to say it's NFG.  When it acts
> up, I just use Yast to get the updates.
>
>
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Hmm, thank You. Yes, that's what I'll do, eventually. But I just wanted to use 
the autothingy, after all they (SuSE) made it for a purpose I guess

Never mind, thank you!


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Re: [opensuse] making mplayer work

[Mark Goldstein]

On 4/3/07, dwain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

How do I get the program to read the dvd?  what audio and video codecs
should I use?



I installed w32codec-all from Pacman and had no trouble since (played
DVD and so on).
I remember that when compiling MPlayer from sources, I did have to
install additional stuff. But in Packman repository all the stuff is
pre-packed, so it saves quite a lot of work (and sometimes headaches).

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Re: [opensuse] Resolvable NetworkManager, transaction failed

[James Knott]

Verner Kjærsgaard wrote:
> Hi list...
>
> Oh, this update thingy.
>
> On my SUSE102. the small taskbar icon is orange. I click to update, get a 
> list 
> of updates and I proceed. I accept the stuff to upgrade and then I get:
>
> "Transactions failed: Resolvable NetworkManager 0.6.4-51 
> (http://ftp.uni-kl.de/pub/linux/suse/update/10.2) not found."
>
> Sigh.
>
> The machine is connected to the internet (of course) and using firefox and 
> the 
> above URL will give me a fine looking index with 3 directories...
>
> repodata/
> rpm/
> scripts/
>
> Eh, now what?
>
>
>   
I've noticed many problems with the Software Updater.  Currently I'm
getting out of disk space errors, even though df shows plenty availalbe.
(120G in this system).  I find that while it does sometimes work, there
are enough problems with Software Updater to say it's NFG.  When it acts
up, I just use Yast to get the updates.


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Re: [opensuse] what a great media player

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> I'll have to try mplayer then.  

You can also try xine - with the added benefit that kafeine and amarok 
(and more) use the xine-lib engine.

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[opensuse] making mplayer work

[dwain]

How do I get the program to read the dvd?  what audio and video codecs
should I use?

Dwain

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Re: [opensuse] what a great media player

[dwain]

Jan Tiggy wrote:
> dwain wrote:
>
> > You can have amtrax and kaffine and xmms.  The best media player out
> > there is vlc.  I have it on my Windows box and now I have it for Linux;
> > and I thought it was only for Windows.  Encrypted DVDs, no problem.
> > It's got all the codecs you need.  I'm one happy newbie Linux user.  Got
> > my jazz radio going on and passing on some hopefully good information.
> > If you want it Google, vlc project; the download and install
> > instructions are all there.
>
> Not really. I take mplayer for movies and amarok for music.
> Vlc is used by me just for streaming xvid to my set-top-box and only out
> of CLI. IMO VLC is slow, the source code is crappy and the current
> release is just broken for my purposes. The last running release is
> 0.85a which I had to compile for SUSE 10.2 myself.
> It is probably the best player for Windows platforms but not for linux
> and that's for sure.
>
> thx
> Jan
>
> PS: And codecs definitely ain't the problem. ;)
0.86a is the current release and available through YaST2 with the proper
installation source.  I don't listen to CDs on the computer much if at
all, but I like the wide variety of radio stations VLC offers through
Shoutcast.

I wouldn't know about crappy source code and I don't find it slow on
Linux, and I've got a slow machine.  What do you mean crappy source code?

Dwain
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Re: [opensuse] what a great media player

[Mark Goldstein]

On 4/3/07, Jan Tiggy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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dwain wrote:

> You can have amtrax and kaffine and xmms.  The best media player out
> there is vlc.  I have it on my Windows box and now I have it for Linux;
> and I thought it was only for Windows.  Encrypted DVDs, no problem.
> It's got all the codecs you need.  I'm one happy newbie Linux user.  Got
> my jazz radio going on and passing on some hopefully good information.
> If you want it Google, vlc project; the download and install
> instructions are all there.

Not really. I take mplayer for movies and amarok for music.
Vlc is used by me just for streaming xvid to my set-top-box and only out
of CLI. IMO VLC is slow, the source code is crappy and the current
release is just broken for my purposes. The last running release is
0.85a which I had to compile for SUSE 10.2 myself.
It is probably the best player for Windows platforms but not for linux
and that's for sure.


I tend to agree with Jan.
I used mplayer for some years. After installing VLC in 10.2 I thought
I will not need another player (I have version 0.8.6-0 from Packman).
But recently I ripped a number of VOB files from DVD and discovered
that VLC just could not play them correctly. VLC palyed couple of
seconds and then jumped forward almost to the end and stopped. Not
sure what could be the reason. I installed MPlayer from the same
Packman repository and it played the videos fine.

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Re: [opensuse] DVD Installation using Sony device

[Rui Santos]

John Hughes wrote:
> It's a Foxconn P9657AA motherboard with Intel E6300 dual core processor. The
> motherboard has P965 + ICH8/ICH8R chipsets.
>   

Probably your DVD is not being recognized by that current Kernel Driver.

Do you have your IDE BIOS settings at Compatible/Legacy mode ? If so,
try to switch it to AHCI/Enhanced...

Also, if you boot to your installation system with 'splash=verbose' you
can watch witch drivers are loaded to you IDE controller. If you look at
something like:

drivers, piix, ata_piix. etc...
loading piix

try to pass the option bronkenmodules=piix at boot. This way the driver
loaded will be the ata_piix.

If it still doesn't work, try to install openSUSE10.2 with openSUSE's
10.3 alpha installation CD. Then just add a recent kernel from SUSE HEAD
repository.

Hope it helps you...

Rui



> John
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Rui Santos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 01 April 2007 23:09
> To: opensuse@opensuse.org
> Subject: Re: [opensuse] DVD Installation using Sony device
>
>
> John Hughes wrote:
>   
>> I've just built a new PC with a Sony AW-g170AB2 DVD+/-R/RW device
>>
>> I've tried to install SUSE 10.1 from a DVD without success.
>>
>> The PC boots up from the DVD without a problem.  However when I select the
>> Installation option it says its cant find CD number 1.I guess it's a
>> problem with the device driver - or the correct one not being loaded.
>>
>> Any one got any ideas how to get around this?
>> 
>
> Which is your motherboard ?
> Or Chipset...
>
>
>   
>> John
>>
>>
>> 
>
>   

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