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Registration Account wrote:

snip

 I have not really achieved anything as I am asking my
 own ISP to resolve DNS enquiries which it already does?
 
 Without freaking me out with editing config files all
 over the place, can someone walk me through creating a
 DNS server resolve DNS enquires I MAKE with whoever it
 wants to?
 
snip
 

I think I am mildly confused about what you mean by setting up your ISP
server as a master. (A suitably edited snippet of your config may be
helpful here).

If you have set up an empty slave zones it is unlikely to get a zone
transfers from the masters as you will not be sent the relevant zone
transfer messages informing your server of zone updates. Your DNS is
then probably just acting as cache/recursive server with a slightly odd
setup. If your ISP has DNS issues you are in trouble anyway, and the
only effective thing you can do is complain or change ISP.

This may be overkill but I think the following document may help if you
have not read it already... I would point you towards Chapter 1 and
Chapter 3 most of the rest is irrelevant to your current position except
Chapter 6 which lists the config options and implicitly gives a good
idea of what is going on...

 http://www.isc.org/index.pl?/sw/bind/




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Re: [opensuse] Installing openSUSE from Windows - new discussion

2007-06-18 Thread Jordi Massaguer i Pla

It looks like a good idea. Open a feature request at the
instlux-sourceforge site.

thanks,

jordi

El dom, 17-06-2007 a las 01:42 +0300, Alexey Eremenko escribió:
 On 6/17/07, Kenneth Schneider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  There is a resize function within the install process to resize the
  single partition without having to reload windows and then linux. That
  is it's purpose, to give you a partition to install on.
 
 Yes, but this answer brings us back to the question: Why there is
 Instlux in first place ?
 
 According to Instlux website:
 Dear Windows user, find your place in the Linux world by upgrading
 your windows to a Linux system the easiest possible way: running an
 installer on your Windows. Do not worry any more about configuring
 your system to boot from a CDROM/DVDROM.
 
 I see my idea as an extension to Instlux concept, that can bring
 ease-of-use further.
 
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Re: [opensuse] Installing openSUSE from Windows - new discussion

2007-06-18 Thread Jordi Massaguer i Pla

or write an implementation and submit it as a patch :)

jordi

El lun, 18-06-2007 a las 11:49 +0200, Jordi Massaguer i Pla escribió:
 It looks like a good idea. Open a feature request at the
 instlux-sourceforge site.
 
 thanks,
 
 jordi
 
 El dom, 17-06-2007 a las 01:42 +0300, Alexey Eremenko escribió:
  On 6/17/07, Kenneth Schneider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   There is a resize function within the install process to resize the
   single partition without having to reload windows and then linux. That
   is it's purpose, to give you a partition to install on.
  
  Yes, but this answer brings us back to the question: Why there is
  Instlux in first place ?
  
  According to Instlux website:
  Dear Windows user, find your place in the Linux world by upgrading
  your windows to a Linux system the easiest possible way: running an
  installer on your Windows. Do not worry any more about configuring
  your system to boot from a CDROM/DVDROM.
  
  I see my idea as an extension to Instlux concept, that can bring
  ease-of-use further.
  
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[opensuse] kdepim3 patch update crashes KNotes

2007-06-18 Thread Philippe Andersson

Hello list,

I installed the following patch through YOU last Friday:

- kdepim3-3.5.5-36_39.i586

After rebooting my laptop, the KNotes application always crashed when a
segfault. I've discarded the backtrace, but could regenerate it if needed.

Reverting the kdepim3 package to its default version (kdepim3-3.5.5-36)
fixed the problem.

Should I file a bug with Novell or is my reporting this to the list enough ?

TIA

Cheers. Bye.

Ph. A.

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Re: [opensuse] kdepim3 patch update crashes KNotes

2007-06-18 Thread Marcus Meissner

On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 11:55:18AM +0200, Philippe Andersson wrote:
 Hello list,
 
 I installed the following patch through YOU last Friday:
 
 - kdepim3-3.5.5-36_39.i586
 
 After rebooting my laptop, the KNotes application always crashed when a
 segfault. I've discarded the backtrace, but could regenerate it if needed.
 
 Reverting the kdepim3 package to its default version (kdepim3-3.5.5-36)
 fixed the problem.
 
 Should I file a bug with Novell or is my reporting this to the list enough ?

Someone already did, https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=285012

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Re: [opensuse] Moving /home to root partition

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 cp -a /mnt/* /home/

I prefer rsync:

rsync -av /mnt/ /home/

It maintains stamps. It can be halted and restarted without copying what 
already exists.

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Re: [opensuse] Re: simple LAN

2007-06-18 Thread Robert Best

Eberhard,
  my complaint (not easy) refers mainly to Ch 21.4 Basic Networking in 
the SuSE documentation. It's really too long and complicated to set up 
a simple LAN, and it asks to enter IP addresses but never mentions 
ifconfig or ip commands to find them.

Regards, Robert

On Sunday 17 June 2007 19:34, Eberhard Roloff wrote:
 Hi Robert,

 we will help you to get along. Don't despair

Thanks. Please see below.

 Robert Best wrote:
  Eberhard,
 it is not easy.
 
  On Saturday 16 June 2007 17:53, Eberhard Roloff wrote:
  Robert Best wrote:
  rwb:~ ip a
  1: lo: LOOPBACK,UP,1 mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue
  ..
  2: eth0: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,NOTRAILERS,UP,1 mtu 1500 qdisc
  ..
 inet 192.168.1.65/24 brd 192.168.1.255 scope global eth0
  ..
 
  fam:~ ip a
  ..
 inet 192.168.1.64/24 brd 192.168.1.255 scope global eth0
  with 64 instead of 65.
 
  rwb:~ ping 192.168.1.64
  sends and receives packets
 
  fish://192.168.1.64
  works !!!
 
  Hi Robert,
 
  Congratulations!!!
  It's easy, isn't it?
 
  No. Kenneth on this list learned me about the command ip a which is
  not mentioned in O'Reilly's Nutshell or the SuSE manual. Ch 21,
  Basic Networking in the Reference documentation should include info
  about how to find unknown IP addresses of computers in a LAN.

 well, Kenneth's command works but I think, the more usual command for
 this is:
 /sbin/ifconfig
 This is surely documented in the Nutshell. And it is easy, I memorize
 it as i(NTER)f(ACE)config(URATION)

Yes, it covers two pages in the Nutshell.

 If you are root, a simple ifconfig works, as an ordinary user, you
 need /sbin/ifconfig

  but only after tearing down the firewall
 
  on machine fam, I assume?
  That is ok, if your internet router acts as a firewall for your
  local network.
 
  It is a Speedtouch ADSL modem. Don't know about firewall
  capabilities.

 At least something is giving you the 192.168.x.x ip Adresses. If they
 come from your Speedtouch and it converts them to real Internet
 Adresses, this acts in fact as a router.

  If you feel better enabling the firewall on fam, you need to
  allow ssh traffic on port 22 as has already been said in another
  mail. You can do that easily with yast on machine fam.
 
  No. I can't find it in YaST2 / Security and Users / Firewall.

 Yes, you can: ;-)

 Yast2 / Security and Users / Firewall / Allowed Services (for
 External Zone) / Service to allow / choose SSH from the List / klick
 on Add
 And: you are done!!

Don't understand. I use fish (or sftp, not ssh) to transport files in 
the LAN which I suppose is in Internal, not External Zone. Port 22 is 
never mentioned in these zones.
I'd like to put the firewall between the LAN and the Internet.
Currently I pull out the phone line from the router when I disable a 
Firewall.

 In case that there are more problems that you encounter or you have
 more questions, just do not hesitate to ask.

 This list has only one sole reason for existence: It is here to help
 people achieve what they are heading for!!!

I was amazed that so many people responded to my question. Thanks to 
all!

 And Linux may not be easy, especially when you are beginning to
 explore it, but chances are, you will never ever regret it.

I use SuSE Linux since vs 8.2 and explore other distros on 3 other 
partitions, but SuSE is my favorite.

  regards
  Eberhard
 
  Kind regards,
  Robert

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Re: [opensuse] US Patent, Subpixel Hinting and Liberation fonts

2007-06-18 Thread John Andersen

On Sunday 17 June 2007, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
  Somewhere on the net a read that the MS patents (in that regards all
  US patents) does not apply outside US. Is that true?!!?

 It is true. For example, that is how Swedish Ericsson was able to make
 telephones without paying any royalties way back when: Bell forgot to
 get a patent in Sweden.

Except I believe that now days, there are several patent treaties where
signatories agree to honor the patents of other countries. Some of these
are bilateral, but others cover large numbers of countries.


http://www.bitlaw.com/source/treaties/pct.html link is a treaty
that governs how a country specific patent can also be filed
as an international patent.
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Re: [opensuse] RE: CD Data Burning application

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 Thank you all for your support and I am very pleased
 that mostly all user have no issues with KB3...
 
 I would like someone to try something out for me on
 another KB3 install that has no problems.
 
 This is going to sound really weird please bear with me
 
 1. Can someone try to burn a Data CD and burn only
 MS-Windows .EXE files
 
 2. Can someone who has XP burn some files - any type
 onto a CDThen remove the CD from XP session and
 then use KB3 to erase the disk.
 
 
 Right now I cannot get KB3 to erase a CD let alone burn
 an iso image!
 
 There are irregularities away from CUA with selection
 of files  in the top window (directory/files listing)
 using SHIFT+CLICKI have written a bug report for
 this. I am amazed that some one has not done this. AND
 Konqueror has  bizarre handling using SHIFT + CLICK.
 
 There were a number of other issues I noted with the
 usability that I thought were very limiting. To
 suddenly find a Linux application presenting a Dialogue
 box is very strange. The one thing I first loved about
 Linux was the absence of dialogue boxes that locked you
 out of the application until the Dialogue was satisfied.
 
 There were a few other issues I also noted, but as I
 cannot even erase a CD at the moment without a debug or
 attempt to burn without a debug I am sort of stopped in
 my tracks.
 
 I know what you are probably thinking that Scott's gone
 mad about the 1 and 2 scenario, however I have a
 suspicion as to what's happening.
 
 I await our next therapy appointment
 
 cheers to all
 
 Scott 0-)
 
snip

I know you are not a CLI fan but if all else fails :-)

try

wodim dev=your cdwriter name blank=all

with the cd to erase in drive, at the CLI and look at response. This
should tell you if you have an issue with wodim (or the drive
configuration). As K3B frontends for wodim/cdrecord this will hopefully
narrow your problem down.

This should zap everything on CD ... may take some time.

K3B actually is a bit lax on error reporting so command line should get
more detail ...

If this works then try 

wodim -v dev=your cdwriter name iso_name

to burn an extant iso.image iso name...

The output here may be a bit obscure if things go wrong but can be used
diagnose some hardware issues... You may also gets some clues as whether
you need to tweak the write speed or buffer size.

K3B takes care of the complicated bit (creating an iso image) very
effectively, but really does make the burning a bit unclear.


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Re: [opensuse] RE: CD Data Burning application

Registration Account wrote:
 Thank you all for your support and I am very pleased
 that mostly all user have no issues with KB3...

 I would like someone to try something out for me on
 another KB3 install that has no problems.

 This is going to sound really weird please bear with me

 1. Can someone try to burn a Data CD and burn only
 MS-Windows .EXE files
   

I frequently burn a CD with several Win apps on it without problem. 
There is also a directory with OpenOffice docs in it.


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Re: [opensuse] Moving /home to root partition

Carlos E. R. wrote:

 The Monday 2007-06-18 at 07:13 +0200, Jon Clausen wrote:

  cp -a /mnt/* /home/

 I prefer rsync:

 rsync -av /mnt/ /home/

 It maintains stamps. It can be halted and restarted without copying what
 already exists.

I thought cp -a preserved time stamps.  Take a look at the -p option,
which -a includes.

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Re: [opensuse] Moving /home to root partition

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The Monday 2007-06-18 at 07:23 -0400, James Knott wrote:

  I prefer rsync:
 
  rsync -av /mnt/ /home/
 
  It maintains stamps. It can be halted and restarted without copying what
  already exists.
 
 I thought cp -a preserved time stamps.  Take a look at the -p option,
 which -a includes.

Perhaps. But I still prefer rsync :-)

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[opensuse] Re: Moving /home to root partition

2007-06-18 Thread Joachim Schrod


Carlos E. R. wrote:


cp -a /mnt/* /home/


I prefer rsync:
rsync -av /mnt/ /home/


If you do so, you should add the -H option as well; otherwise your 
hard links are gone.


Cheers,
Joachim

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Re: [opensuse] Re: simple LAN

On Mon, 2007-06-18 at 11:00 +0100, Robert Best wrote:
  
   It is a Speedtouch ADSL modem. Don't know about firewall
   capabilities.

The firewall capabilities used by most of these modems is called NAT
which stands for Network Address Translation ( there are other features
available ). What this basically does is prevent an outside connection
to an inside PC because there is no direct access via an outside IP
address to an internal IP address. When you request an outside
connection, lets say a connection to a web site, the modem automagically
provides a temporary connection for you and drops it when the request
has ended ( the web page has been loaded ).

snip
 Don't understand. I use fish (or sftp, not ssh) to transport files in 
 the LAN which I suppose is in Internal, not External Zone. Port 22 is 
 never mentioned in these zones.
 I'd like to put the firewall between the LAN and the Internet.
 Currently I pull out the phone line from the router when I disable a 
 Firewall.

No need as the modem _is_ the firewall.

 
  In case that there are more problems that you encounter or you have
  more questions, just do not hesitate to ask.
 
  This list has only one sole reason for existence: It is here to help
  people achieve what they are heading for!!!
 
 I was amazed that so many people responded to my question. Thanks to 
 all!

That's why we volunteer to be here.

 
  And Linux may not be easy, especially when you are beginning to
  explore it, but chances are, you will never ever regret it.

As I said in an earlier email it's easy once you know how.

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Re: [opensuse] 10.2 -- manually edit Yast configs?

2007-06-18 Thread Stanislav Visnovsky

Dňa So 16. Jún 2007 09:21 Bill-Schoolcraft napísal:
 Hello Family,

 I have 10.2 installed and have no idea what happend for I cannot
 either change the installation_source or get the software_update
 screen to appear.

 Years ago I recall being able to manually edit the YAST config
 options, is that still possible to save the YAST application?

 Yast1 and Yast1 hang on the same items.  I could not determine if I
 coule uninstall then reinstall the yast packages for there was
 wy too many of them. :(

Try 'rpm -V' first and look for problems in yast packages.

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Re: [opensuse] RE: CD Data Burning application

2007-06-18 Thread Rainer Brinkmann

Am Montag, 18. Juni 2007 12:40 schrieb G T Smith:
 Snipp
 I know you are not a CLI fan but if all else fails :-)

 try

 wodim dev=your cdwriter name blank=all

 wodim -v dev=your cdwriter name iso_name

 to burn an extant iso.image iso name...

Hello,
I got not probs with k3b, using version K3b 1.01 on KDE 3.5.5 release 45.4 
openSUSE 10.2.
There is not probs blanking any medium (cd and dvd) nor erasing some *.exe 
files .
But to finalize the multisession DVD maintaining maximum compatibility try
growisofs -M /dev/dvd=/dev/zero
To use growisofs to write a pre-mastered ISO-image to a DVD: 
growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=image.iso
I use a model_CD/DVDW_SH_S183L.

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Re: [opensuse] bugzilla.novell.com ?

On Sun, 2007-06-17 at 20:52 -0400, James Knott wrote:
 Per Jessen wrote:
  Has anyone succeeded in accessing bugzilla this weekend?  I've been
  trying all afternoon, and it's not really responding. 
 
 

 
 Submit a report to bugzilla.  ;-)
 

LOL. Good one James. Reminds of when I need to call my ISP to report an
outage and the on hold messages keep telling you to report problems on
their web site. You know the one you can't get to because you have an
outage.

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Re: [opensuse] Moving /home to root partition

On Mon, 2007-06-18 at 00:01 -0500, Rajko M. wrote:
 On Sunday 17 June 2007 23:01, Rajko M. wrote:
 
 
init 3
mkdir home1
cp home home1
 cp -R /home/* home1
umount /home
mv home1 home
 mv /home1/* /home

mv /home1 /home   is correct. This is the rename incarnation of mv.

 
 It is too late to make no mistakes :-(

But you just did :-)

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Re: [opensuse] RE: CD Data Burning application

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 Am Montag, 18. Juni 2007 12:40 schrieb G T Smith:
 Snipp
 I know you are not a CLI fan but if all else fails :-)

 try

 wodim dev=your cdwriter name blank=all

 wodim -v dev=your cdwriter name iso_name

 to burn an extant iso.image iso name...

 Hello,

snip

 But to finalize the multisession DVD maintaining maximum compatibility try
 growisofs -M /dev/dvd=/dev/zero
 To use growisofs to write a pre-mastered ISO-image to a DVD: 
 growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=image.iso

This is DVD only ... OP is about CDs not DVDs... growisofs is the DVD
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Re: [opensuse] Moving /home to root partition

2007-06-18 Thread Ed Harrison

James Knott wrote:
 Carlos E. R. wrote:
   
 The Monday 2007-06-18 at 07:13 +0200, Jon Clausen wrote:

 
 cp -a /mnt/* /home/
   
 I prefer rsync:

 rsync -av /mnt/ /home/

 It maintains stamps. It can be halted and restarted without copying what
 already exists.

 
 I thought cp -a preserved time stamps.  Take a look at the -p option,
 which -a includes.

   
Try this.  I have used it for years.

Log out of X
Change to a tty CTL-ALT-F2
Log In as root
init 3
cd /
mkdir home1
cd home
find ./* -xdev | cpio -pdmv /home1/
umount /home
cd /
rmdir /home (it is now an empty directory)
mv /home1 /home
edit /etc/fstab to remove mounting of /dev/xxx to /home.
init 5

You should be up and running.

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[opensuse] Verizon EVDO USB 720 Modem - OpenSuSE 10.2

2007-06-18 Thread David Dulong

Has anyone actually got this device to work in OpenSUSE 10.2?


When I inserted the device, this is what showed up in /var/log/messages

Jun 18 08:47:29 lnx3lytk81102 kernel: usb 3-1: USB disconnect, address 3
Jun 18 08:48:08 lnx3lytk81102 kernel: usb 3-1: new full speed USB device
using uhci_hcd and address 4
Jun 18 08:48:08 lnx3lytk81102 kernel: usb 3-1: new device found,
idVendor=1410, idProduct=2110
Jun 18 08:48:08 lnx3lytk81102 kernel: usb 3-1: new device strings:
Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0
Jun 18 08:48:08 lnx3lytk81102 kernel: usb 3-1: Product: Novatel Wireless
CDMA
Jun 18 08:48:08 lnx3lytk81102 kernel: usb 3-1: Manufacturer: Novatel
Wireless Inc.
Jun 18 08:48:08 lnx3lytk81102 kernel: usb 3-1: configuration #1 chosen
from 1 choice


I went into YAST and then Hardware Information and it shows up under the
USB devices list.  

However, I cannot get OpenSuSE to see it as a modem.  Is there some
trick?

Regards,
Dave


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Re: [opensuse] RE: CD Data Burning application

2007-06-18 Thread Rainer Brinkmann

Am Montag, 18. Juni 2007 14:31 schrieb G T Smith:
 Rainer Brinkmann wrote:

  But to finalize the multisession DVD maintaining maximum compatibility
  try growisofs -M /dev/dvd=/dev/zero
  To use growisofs to write a pre-mastered ISO-image to a DVD:
  growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=image.iso

 This is DVD only ... OP is about CDs not DVDs... growisofs is the DVD
 tool...
Hello,
sorry, mixed it up, because I did a 340GB-backup last weekend.
But does wodim burn itself, or does it use mkisofs for the burning job?

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Rainer Brinkmann wrote:
 Am Montag, 18. Juni 2007 14:31 schrieb G T Smith:
 Rainer Brinkmann wrote:
 
 But to finalize the multisession DVD maintaining maximum compatibility
 try growisofs -M /dev/dvd=/dev/zero
 To use growisofs to write a pre-mastered ISO-image to a DVD:
 growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=image.iso
 This is DVD only ... OP is about CDs not DVDs... growisofs is the DVD
 tool...
 Hello,
 sorry, mixed it up, because I did a 340GB-backup last weekend.
 But does wodim burn itself, or does it use mkisofs for the burning job?
 
 Rainer

340GB is an awful lot of DVDs :-)

wodim takes on the cdrecord role for burning CDs (with a similar option
set), in SuSE cdrecord is a link to wodim.

mkisofs makes an iso image but does not do any burning itself (you can
pipe mkisofs output to wodim but one would have tune a few things to get
this to work reliably, and that is a still a bit of a black art).
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Re: [opensuse] US Patent, Subpixel Hinting and Liberation fonts

2007-06-18 Thread Dave Howorth

John Andersen wrote:
 Except I believe that now days, there are several patent treaties where
 signatories agree to honor the patents of other countries. Some of these
 are bilateral, but others cover large numbers of countries.
 
 
 http://www.bitlaw.com/source/treaties/pct.html link is a treaty
 that governs how a country specific patent can also be filed
 as an international patent.

Interesting link. Perhaps even more interesting is
http://www.bitlaw.com/patent/international.html which explains a
little about what that treaty actually means (hint, it's different to
the suggestions above)

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Re: [opensuse] Moving /home to root partition

2007-06-18 Thread Bob Kline


Mohammad Bhuyan wrote:

Hi,



I have the /home on its own partition, but I need to move it to the root
partition without losing data,


I am not an expert but I was thinking if the following should work

1. To be on the safe side get out of x (ex: init 3) 


Wouldn't it be even safer to boot from a live CD?

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[opensuse] Linux/CUPS/Samba Printer Configuration - again

2007-06-18 Thread Daniel Feiglin

Hello!

This issue has been done to death on the Web, but I'm not sure where the
following derivative problem belongs:

I have an openSUSE 10.2 vanilla installation with Samba set up as a
server for my Windows work group, with all Win 2K clients. The Linux
system is fully patched. I have a parallel port HP printer attached to
the Linux box - which works fine, locally. CUPS operates as expected,
without problems.

When I try to print something from a Win 2K client, say a browser page -
there is a flurry of activity on the net (from the blinking lights on
the hub) - and then, nothing.

If on the client, I open up a command line and do something like this:

print  /d:\\server_name\printer_share_name   little_text_file

little_text_file gets printed as expected.

Other things:
1. The smb.conf file is maintained using SWAT, and follows the help
instructions for configuration with CUPS.
2. The CUPS and Samba spool directories have (at least for now) rwx
permissions for all users.
3. A second Win 2K client running as a VMware guest shows precisely the
same behavior.
4. A look at the Samba  CUPS logs suggests that Samba is not passing
stuff to CUPS.

(Attempting to print from Word on either client also produces nothing as
above, but with the additional bonus that Word crashes.)

As a matter of interest, I noticed this behavior from the time  SUSE 
moved from lprng to CUPS (V9?). At the time, I had one Win 2K client, a
few spare cables and an electronic printer A-B box, so I took the easy
way out. I now want to add more Win clients - so it's time to bite the
bullet.

Cheers,


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Re: [opensuse] Moving /home to root partition

2007-06-18 Thread Gabriel

Bob Kline escribió:
 Mohammad Bhuyan wrote:
 Hi,


 I have the /home on its own partition, but I need to move it to the root
 partition without losing data,


You should first go to init 1 (single user), unmount /home, move the
data to the new location, modify fstab with the new settings (in this
case simply remove the settings for /home) and then go back to init 5.

Thats all.

Regards.


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Re: [opensuse] Moving /home to root partition

2007-06-18 Thread Gabriel

Gabriel escribió:
 Bob Kline escribió:
 Mohammad Bhuyan wrote:
 Hi,

 I have the /home on its own partition, but I need to move it to the root
 partition without losing data,
 
 You should first go to init 1 (single user), unmount /home, move the
 data to the new location, modify fstab with the new settings (in this
 case simply remove the settings for /home) and then go back to init 5.
 
 Thats all.
 
 Regards.
 

Sorry, remount /home with another name so you will be able to copy the
data to a directory named /home on your root partition.

This is the safest way, I don't recommend doing it on a multi-user mode
(init 3)
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Re: [opensuse] Moving /home to root partition

2007-06-18 Thread Dave Howorth

Fernando Costa wrote:
 I have the /home on its own partition, but I need to move it to the root
 partition without losing data, which is the safest way to do that? My
 root partition is about 20G and the /home partition is about 8G and less
 than 1G is used because I store my data in a different partition.
 
 openSUSE 10.2

Lots of advice about how to do this from various people, so let me be
contrarian :)

Don't do it.

I believe it's much better to have too many filesystems rather than too
few. You don't say what your real problem is - I guess you're trying to
recover the 8 GB? So copy the contents of /home into the root partition
temporarily, reformat the 8 GB as LVM space and then recreate /home as a
 logical volume.

BTW, your root partition is way too big, IMHO. I'd have about 2 GB for
root and put the other 18 GB into LVM with /usr, /var, /opt in their own
logical filesystems. If you're using ext3 or reiserfs (don't know about
others), you can then grow them as needed.

I'd make all changes while running some other system (e.g. a live disk
like Bob Kline suggested). I always keep my previous system in another 2
GB partition for this sort of work.

Cheers, Dave
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[opensuse] gphoto2/Digikam: need sunplus spca533 driver for Sakar 99479

Besides being patient, what can I do with a somewhat
unsupported digital camera?  I say somewhat because
Digikam and Gwenview do display thumbnails correctly. 
However, the downloaded jpg's are somewhat scrambled
-- the image breaks into wide horizontal tinted
shifted bands.

I'm wondering whether I can eliminate this banding by
changing the gphoto download speed or some other
gphoto option -- --speed, --frames, --interval

gphoto --auto-detect gives


Model  Port
Mass Storage Cameradisk:/media/disk




The driver, spca533, is used in a large number of
cameras.  See:

http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/showdevcat.php?w=did=98
-- cameras that use spca533

http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/showdr.php?id=98 --
spca533 overview

http://members.driverguide.com/driver/detail.php?driverid=589063
-- driver summary

A number of cameras use spca50x.  I tried setting
digikam to some of these cameras, hoping that spca50x
might be close enough to spca533 to allow digikam to
connect, but it didn't work.

http://www.teaser.fr/~hfiguiere/linux/digicam.html


here's exif for one of the photos in the camera:

gphoto2: /dcim/100media show-exif sunp0002.jpg
Downloading 'sunp0002.jpg' from folder
'/dcim/100media'...
EXIF tags:
+---
Tag |Value
+---
ImageDescription|Sunplus
Make|Sunplus
Model   |Spca533
Orientation |top - left
XResolution |72.00
YResolution |72.00
ResolutionUnit  |Inch
DateTime|2006:01:01 09:56:25
YCbCrPositioning|co-sited
Compression |JPEG compression
Orientation |top - left
XResolution |72.00
YResolution |72.00
ResolutionUnit  |Inch
YCbCrPositioning|co-sited
ExposureTime|1/33 sec.
FNumber |f/2.8
ExposureProgram |Normal program
ISOSpeedRatings |100
ExifVersion |Exif Version 2.1
DateTimeOriginal|2006:01:01 09:56:25
DateTimeDigitized   |2006:01:01 09:56:25
ComponentsConfigurat|Y Cb Cr -
CompressedBitsPerPix|2.00
ExposureBiasValue   |+9.8
MaxApertureValue|3.17
MeteringMode|Center-Weighted Average
LightSource |0
Flash   |Flash did not fire.
FocalLength |9.7 mm
FlashPixVersion |FlashPix Version 1.0
ColorSpace  |sRGB
PixelXDimension |2592
PixelYDimension |1944
FileSource  |DSC
SceneType   |
InteroperabilityInde|R98
InteroperabilityVers|
+---
EXIF data contains a thumbnail (11896 bytes).



 

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Re: [opensuse] bugzilla.novell.com ?

2007-06-18 Thread Billie Erin Walsh

On 06/18/2007 Kenneth Schneider wrote:
 LOL. Good one James. Reminds of when I need to call my ISP to report
 an
 outage and the on hold messages keep telling you to report problems on
 their web site. You know the one you can't get to because you have an
 outage.

It isn't hold, it's ignore.

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[opensuse] end to this OT, was: Maybe OT: Upgrade problem

* Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] [06-18-07 00:30]:
 OK, so now that I have been thoroughly chastised for violating Proper
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 about someone stepping up to the plate and trying to address the
 original problem, which is how to undo a Smart upgrade to open GL? At
 least, that is what I think may be the problem, as after the upgrade
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Re: [opensuse] Linux supports parallel port scanner!


--- Rajko M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 I'll write article on openSUSE wiki about parallel
 port scanner installation, 
 but I have no ZIP drive and I can't do much to
 rescue information how to 
 install them. Your experience can help to people
 like you to give second life 
 to their ZIP drives. 
 
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 Regards,
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Wow!  I HAVE a parallel port scanner with M$ driver
disk.  I tried to find a way to get the scanner to
work with Linux, but finally gave up.  

When you write the article, it will be very helpful to
me!  Thanks!


   

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[opensuse] Change default search option on opensuse?

2007-06-18 Thread Kevin Donnelly

At the minute, if you enter something into the search box, and press Return, 
you get the page that fits your search entry, eg enter apache, and you get 
http://en.opensuse.org/Apache.  This title search is the default option.

However, there may be more pages on the wiki that deal with Apache, and not 
all of those may be linked to the Apache page.  Clicking the fulltext 
search gives a wider range of pages, and a better indication of how much 
information there might be on that topic in the wiki.

Is there any possibility of making fulltext search the default, or at any 
rate putting some sort of indicator like You will get references to more 
pages if you use fulltext search directly under the search box?

I know that it is possible to add any new Apache pages to the 
http://en.opensuse.org/Apache page, but this may not be optimal if the new 
page does not fit well into the thrust of the existing page.  

I've added a reference to a new Subversion page I've done to the existing 
Subversion page, and while there I noticed that Subversion is categorised as 
an Internet Application, whereas it might be more reasonably placed 
under Development or Versioning Applications.  There is a category for 
the former (and for Developer Tools), but not for the latter.  I don't want 
to start too much fiddling around with the layout, however - who has the 
final say-so on layout, ie is there a wikimaster?

Also, is there any reason why the openSUSE Community pages 
(http://opensuse-community.org) aren't prominently linked to on the 
openSUSE.org front page?  Again, I could make this edit, but I don't want to 
step on anyone's toes.

Which raises the question, I suppose, of whether new pages should go on 
opensuse.org or opensuse-community.org 

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Re: [opensuse] Moving /home to root partition


--- Bob Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Mohammad Bhuyan wrote:
  Hi,
 
 
  I have the /home on its own partition, but I need
 to move it to the root
  partition without losing data,
 
  I am not an expert but I was thinking if the
 following should work
 
  1. To be on the safe side get out of x (ex: init
 3) 
 
 Wouldn't it be even safer to boot from a live CD?

I had the opposite problem a few days ago: I had to
move /home off the root partition and onto a new
partition.

Since I have two Linux systems installed, I can use
the one to modify the other.  I have 9.0 on a logical
partition on hda and 10.2 on a logical partition on
hdb.  

When I installed 10.2 last week, I inadvertantly ended
up with /home on the root partition.  Not knowing what
to do, I proceeded one step at a time, checking each
result.  

Using the 9.0 system:
* I mounted the two 10.2 partitions, hdb5 and hdb6.  
* I copied the 10.2 /home subdirectories from hdb5
(root) to hdb6 (new home)
* I renamed 10.2 /home to /home_hdb5, to preserve the
the original subdirectories (for recovery)
* I created a new 10.2 /home to serve as a mount-point
for 10.2 fstab
* I made sure that the 10.2 fstab entry used hdb6

Much to my surprise, 10.2 survived and is now working
fine, with the new /home.


   

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Re: [opensuse] Installing openSUSE from Windows - new discussion


--- Mark Goldstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 6/17/07, G T Smith
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  The concept of having a Linux on the same File
 System as Windows is not
  new (it used to be an option with some distros).
 However where you start
  hitting issues is with fundamental
 incompatibilities in how the two OSs
  describe files and some basic file formats. For
 instance in Open Office
  and Eclipse one needs two distinct environments to
 work on documents or
  projects and NTFS has a very different security
 mechanism to Linux, I
  think in attempting to create simplicity one well
 may be in fact
  creating much unneeded complexity.
 
 Yes, I remember it was part of Slackware
 distribution long ago (back
 in 1996). You could install Slackware in FAT
 partition (it was called
 UMSDOS FS). The issue was, you paid performance
 penalty. Unix
 principles of file system with i-nodes, pointing to
 actual file and
 directory data, is very important. Not sure how NTFS
 works, but I
 doubt it uses Unix concept.
 Also, currently you will normally have no write
 access from Windows to Linux.
 If you install Linux on Windows FS, Linux will
 probably become
 vulnerable to Windows SW glitches, viruses and other
 nice things. (Of
 course, if some virus uses low level access, it
 could harm Linux FS in
 separate partitions as well).
 -- 
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Corel also supported UMSDOS.  That was my introduction
to Linux, way back in 1998 (I believe).  From there, I
went on to using LoadLin -- the only way to get Linux
to run in a logical partition at that time, as I
recall.

With UMSDOS, all of the Linux files were stored inside
a single M$windles FAT file!  Why couldn't we do the
same thing, using a single NTFS file?

According to Wikipedia, support for UMSDOS was dropped
in the 2.6 kernel.  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMSDOS


   

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Re: [opensuse] simple LAN

2007-06-18 Thread Verner Kjærsgaard

Lørdag 16 juni 2007 11:45 skrev Robert Best:
 On Saturday 16 June 2007 10:21, jpff wrote:
  Just a minor suggestion; use SSH/SCP and/or rsync to transfer files.
  Much easier than ftp transfers
  ==John ffitch

 Sorry John, I don't know SSH/SCP and/or rsync. Please explain.
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Re: [opensuse] Linux/CUPS/Samba Printer Configuration - again

2007-06-18 Thread Darryl Gregorash

On 2007-06-18 08:35, Daniel Feiglin wrote:
 Hello!

 This issue has been done to death on the Web, but I'm not sure where the
 following derivative problem belongs:

 I have an openSUSE 10.2 vanilla installation with Samba set up as a
 server for my Windows work group, with all Win 2K clients. The Linux
 system is fully patched. I have a parallel port HP printer attached to
 the Linux box - which works fine, locally. CUPS operates as expected,
 without problems.

 When I try to print something from a Win 2K client, say a browser page -
 there is a flurry of activity on the net (from the blinking lights on
 the hub) - and then, nothing.

   

As of Win2K, I believe you do not need to use Samba to print to a Linux
network printer. Configure the printer in CUPS to allow network
connections (this should actually be the default behaviour), and
configure the printers in Windows to use a Unix-style (IPP) connection.
If you are running a firewall on the server, you may need to open the
IPP port (name ipp or number 631).

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Re: [opensuse] kdepim3 patch update crashes KNotes

2007-06-18 Thread drek

On 06/18/2007 11:59 AM, Marcus Meissner wrote:
 On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 11:55:18AM +0200, Philippe Andersson wrote:
   
 Hello list,

 I installed the following patch through YOU last Friday:

 - kdepim3-3.5.5-36_39.i586

 After rebooting my laptop, the KNotes application always crashed when a
 segfault. I've discarded the backtrace, but could regenerate it if needed.

 Reverting the kdepim3 package to its default version (kdepim3-3.5.5-36)
 fixed the problem.

 Should I file a bug with Novell or is my reporting this to the list enough ?
 

 Someone already did, https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=285012

 Ciao, Marcus
   
I had the same problem. But after updating my x86_64 system to KDE 3.5.7
it works again...

André
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[opensuse] dhcpd changes address on a static IP nic

2007-06-18 Thread James D. Parra

Hello,

Somehow dhcpd tried to update the IP of a nic that had a static IP address.
After restarting the nic/network to reset the IP correctly I noticed the
following in the logs;

snip
Jun 17 08:50:16 dns-server named[7523]: FORMERR resolving
'ns.eunet.es//IN':
 82.194.64.26#53
Jun 17 08:52:54 dns-server modify_resolvconf: Service dhcpcd tried to modify
res
olver configuration, but it
Jun 17 08:52:54 dns-server modify_resolvconf: was not modified due to
MODIFY_RES
OLV\NAMED_CONF_DYNAMICALLY=no
Jun 17 08:52:54 dns-server kernel: eth0: link up, 100Mbps, full-duplex, lpa
0x45
E1
Jun 17 08:52:54 dns-server kernel: klogd 1.4.1, -- state change

--
Jun 17 08:52:54 dns-server modify_resolvconf: Service dhcpcd tried to modify
res
olver configuration, but it
Jun 17 08:52:54 dns-server modify_resolvconf: was not modified due to
MODIFY_RES
OLV\NAMED_CONF_DYNAMICALLY=no
Jun 17 08:53:00 dns-server syslog-ng[4645]: Changing permissions on special
file
 /dev/xconsole
Jun 17 08:53:00 dns-server syslog-ng[4645]: Changing permissions on special
file
 /dev/tty10
Jun 17 08:53:00 dns-server ifup: Interface eth0 is not configured for dhcp.
So d
on't use '-o dhcp'.
Jun 17 08:53:04 dns-server kernel: eth0: no IPv6 routers present
Jun 17 09:30:06 dns-server syslog-ng[4645]: STATS: dropped 0
Jun 17 09:42:33 dns-server named[7523]: listening on IPv4 interface eth0,
192.16
8.100.218#53
Jun 17 09:42:33 dns-server named[7523]: no longer listening on
192.168.100.99#53
Jun 17 10:30:06 dns-server syslog-ng[4645]: STATS: dropped 0
snip

The service 'dhcpd' is currently off, however could any other service have
caused the dhcp daemon to start?

Many thanks,

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Re: [opensuse] Change default search option on opensuse?

2007-06-18 Thread Francis Giannaros


On 6/18/07, Kevin Donnelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

At the minute, if you enter something into the search box, and press Return,
you get the page that fits your search entry, eg enter apache, and you get
http://en.opensuse.org/Apache.  This title search is the default option.

However, there may be more pages on the wiki that deal with Apache, and not
all of those may be linked to the Apache page.  Clicking the fulltext
search gives a wider range of pages, and a better indication of how much
information there might be on that topic in the wiki.

Is there any possibility of making fulltext search the default, or at any
rate putting some sort of indicator like You will get references to more
pages if you use fulltext search directly under the search box?


Please raise this suggestion on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list.


Also, is there any reason why the openSUSE Community pages
(http://opensuse-community.org) aren't prominently linked to on the
openSUSE.org front page?  Again, I could make this edit, but I don't want to
step on anyone's toes.


Well, yes; legal reasons?


Which raises the question, I suppose, of whether new pages should go on
opensuse.org or opensuse-community.org 


Check the o-c.o site description:

The openSUSE-Community is a project aiming to channel more of a
community effort into our favourite distribution, openSUSE. This
includes -- but is not exclusive to -- adding all the extra
documentation that is required for a seamless openSUSE experience.
Through this wiki, we intend to provide a placeholder for all
additional information. This site is not meant to in any way create a
duplication of effort to what is already on http://openSUSE.org, but
rather to be a supplement to what is there.

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Re: [opensuse] Mouse scroll gone wild crashes 10.2, no problem in 9.0; YAST setting ignored

2007-06-18 Thread John Ross

John Ross wrote with an electric tatoo needlee on a toasted coconut 
shell::-)


Charles Obler wrote:


I've just installed 10.2.  I experienced erratic
(wild,
unstable) scrolling during and after installation.  As
soon as the mouse pointer enters a text or panel area,
the area starts to scroll erratically.  Scroll
overload apparently crashed KDE -- lost keyboard
access, and ability to logoff.  Problem does not exist
on my 9.0 SuSE system.

I'm using a Logitech wheel mouse.  9.0 lists it as an
Intelli/wheel mouse (aux).  10.2 recognizes it as
Logitech.  My graphics card is an
NVidia GeForce 4 MX440SE.  My monitor is an AOC
Spectrum 7KLR.  In 9.0, I run at 800x600 with refresh
128hz.

I managed to get YAST/sax2 to disable the mouse wheel.
That worked for a while, but today, after starting
Firefox, the problem returned, afflicting ALL
applications (not just Firefox).  

According to sax2, the wheel remained disabled. 
However, after starting Firefox, the wheel became

operative and, throughout KDE, scrolling became
unstable.  Is it possible that Firefox (or something
else) caused the system to disregard the sax2 setting?

There are several problems here:
* sax2 mouse setting is ignored by applications
* erratic scrolling crashed KDE, locked out keyboard
* mouse may be defective

It's the first two problems that deserve wider
attention.

The last problem, I can fix myself.  Disconnecting the
mouse eliminated the wild oscillations.  I will try
replacing the mouse.  



I tried reducing screen resolution to 800x600.  That
had no effect.  



  

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that gives answers, not web links. 
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Bob Kline wrote:

Mohammad Bhuyan wrote:

Hi,



I have the /home on its own partition, but I need to move it to the 
root

partition without losing data,


I am not an expert but I was thinking if the following should work

1. To be on the safe side get out of x (ex: init 3) 


Wouldn't it be even safer to boot from a live CD?



As long as only root is logged in, init 3 is fine.


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[opensuse] Re: USB device error

2007-06-18 Thread Philip Kisloff


  BTW what kind (make/model) of case is the drive mounted in?

Ahem, I bought off ebay - it seems to be made in China. Search *NEW*
120 GB 2.5 External HDD Hard Disk Drive USB 2.0 I didn't honestly know
it before now, but the housing seems to be rip-off of a SONY label. 

Investigating as far I can, the problem is not with the kernel, but it
_is_ a hardware (or firmware) issue.  The device reports incorrect
residue values (?).  This means that it violates the USB Mass Storage
protocol specification (funny, it claims to be USB2.0 certified).  Mac
OS X and Windows ignore the bogus residue values but Linux doesn't.

Patch submitted
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/gregkh/usb/2.6/2.6.20-rc3/usb-storage-unusual_devs-add-supertop-drives.patch
 
I should not expect that the device won't work with any earlier kernel. I guess 
I don't want to mess 
with a kernel upgrade until I do a full backup, so I'm looking for a new 
storgae device.

And the moral of this story?

Phil



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[opensuse] Repo for Freetype with BCI/sub-pixel hinting enabled

2007-06-18 Thread Michael


Hi,

I'm thinking of trying out 10.2, but was wondering if there's a 
repository that includes a freetype package with the bytecode 
interpreter and sub-pixel hinting already enabled.


Regards,

Michael

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Re: [opensuse] Repo for Freetype with BCI/sub-pixel hinting enabled

2007-06-18 Thread Kevin Donnelly

On Mon 18 June 2007 22:12:33 Michael wrote:
 I'm thinking of trying out 10.2, but was wondering if there's a
 repository that includes a freetype package with the bytecode
 interpreter and sub-pixel hinting already enabled.

There is a very good page on this in opensuse-community.org:
http://opensuse-community.org/SubpixelHinting
This is a very easy step-by-step.



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[opensuse] Testing pattern dependencies

2007-06-18 Thread Samuel Partida


Hello, I'm trying to make my own patterns for add them on the DVD. I'm
resolving the dependencies by hand but I would like to know if there
is some way to test a pattern (with zypper or something else)  before
adding it to the openSUSE installation source.

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Re: [opensuse] Testing pattern dependencies

* Samuel Partida [EMAIL PROTECTED] [06-18-07 17:35]:
 Hello, I'm trying to make my own patterns for add them on the DVD. I'm
 resolving the dependencies by hand but I would like to know if there
 is some way to test a pattern (with zypper or something else)  before
 adding it to the openSUSE installation source.


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many options such as 
  --provides=DEP   Show only packages providing the given dependency
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Re: [opensuse] kdepim3 patch update crashes KNotes

2007-06-18 Thread Ken Jennings

On Monday 2007-06-18 15:03, drek wrote:
 On 06/18/2007 11:59 AM, Marcus Meissner wrote:
  On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 11:55:18AM +0200, Philippe Andersson wrote:
  I installed the following patch through YOU last Friday:
 
  - kdepim3-3.5.5-36_39.i586
 
  After rebooting my laptop, the KNotes application always crashed when a
  segfault. I've discarded the backtrace, but could regenerate it if
  needed.
 
  Reverting the kdepim3 package to its default version (kdepim3-3.5.5-36)
  fixed the problem.
 
  Should I file a bug with Novell or is my reporting this to the list
  enough ?
 
  Someone already did, https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=285012

 I had the same problem. But after updating my x86_64 system to KDE 3.5.7
 it works again...

None of the x86_64 systems I have experience this crash and they're up to 
date.  All the 32-bit 10.2 systems here have this problem.
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Re: [opensuse] Re: USB device error

2007-06-18 Thread Mike McMullin

On Mon, 2007-06-18 at 21:54 +0100, Philip Kisloff wrote:
BTW what kind (make/model) of case is the drive mounted in?

Ahem, I bought off ebay - it seems to be made in China. Search *NEW*
120 GB 2.5 External HDD Hard Disk Drive USB 2.0 I didn't honestly know
it before now, but the housing seems to be rip-off of a SONY label.

Unfortunate luck there.

Investigating as far I can, the problem is not with the kernel, but it
_is_ a hardware (or firmware) issue. The device reports incorrect
residue values (?). This means that it violates the USB Mass Storage
protocol specification (funny, it claims to be USB2.0 certified). Mac
OS X and Windows ignore the bogus residue values but Linux doesn't.

Patch submitted
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/gregkh/usb/2.6/2.6.20-rc3/usb-storage-unusual_devs-add-supertop-drives.patch

I should not expect that the device won't work with any earlier kernel. I
guess I don't want to mess
with a kernel upgrade until I do a full backup, so I'm looking for a new
storgae device.

About the kernel upgrade, keep an eye peeled for a new kernel in the
on-line updates, and see if it matches the version numbers listed above,
when that patch propagates through the various distros, you'll be in
business. Do you know of a kind hearted person who can partition it for
you in Windows? If so then at least it will be usable until you can do
it yourself.

And the moral of this story?

Standards are only standards when they are adhered to. Even Logitech
violates standards. :(

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Re: [opensuse] Moving /home to root partition

2007-06-18 Thread David Bolt

On Mon, 18 Jun 2007, James Knott wrote:-

Bob Kline wrote:
 Mohammad Bhuyan wrote:
 Hi,


 I have the /home on its own partition, but I need to move it to the
root
 partition without losing data,

 I am not an expert but I was thinking if the following should work

 1. To be on the safe side get out of x (ex: init 3) 

 Wouldn't it be even safer to boot from a live CD?


As long as only root is logged in, init 3 is fine.

You can't guarantee that other users won't log in while you're busy
doing the changes while in runlevel 3 or 5. Dropping into runlevel 2 is
safer as there is no networking enabled, in theory other users could
still be logged in on the other consoles, but they'd need to have
physical access to do so.

Using runlevel 1 is the safest option, as only one user can log in at a
time, and it's going to be hard for someone to try logging in while
you're busy using the keyboard.


Regards,
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Re: [opensuse] Repo for Freetype with BCI/sub-pixel hinting enabled

2007-06-18 Thread Michael


Kevin Donnelly wrote:

On Mon 18 June 2007 22:12:33 Michael wrote:
  

I'm thinking of trying out 10.2, but was wondering if there's a
repository that includes a freetype package with the bytecode
interpreter and sub-pixel hinting already enabled.



There is a very good page on this in opensuse-community.org:
http://opensuse-community.org/SubpixelHinting
This is a very easy step-by-step.

  
Indeed. Which sort of begs the question, why isn't it in packman 
together with the other patent-busting necessities?


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Re: [opensuse] Linux supports parallel port scanner!

2007-06-18 Thread Clark Sann

Charles Obler wrote:
 --- Rajko M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
   
 I'll write article on openSUSE wiki about parallel
 port scanner installation, 
 but I have no ZIP drive and I can't do much to
 rescue information how to 
 install them. Your experience can help to people
 like you to give second life 
 to their ZIP drives. 

 -- 
 Regards,
 Rajko.
 


 Wow!  I HAVE a parallel port scanner with M$ driver
 disk.  I tried to find a way to get the scanner to
 work with Linux, but finally gave up.  

 When you write the article, it will be very helpful to
 me!  Thanks!



 
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It turned out to be very easy to make my 100 MB Parallel port zip drive
work. 
Here are 6 simple steps along with some comments

1.  From a root shell, run modprobe ppa and modprobe imm. 
One of them should work to install the drivers for your parallel port
zip drive.  

( I guess install the drivers is accurate?? 
I am a little fuzzy as to just what it is that modprobe does. 
I'm even more fuzzy about what insmod does.)

For me, imm did not work, but ppa did. 

My research showed that imm only works for newer drives.  Mine is REAL
old. 

I don't really understand why, but when running modprobe, the results of
the modprobe
command are not shown in the terminal window.  Goofy linux.  Instead you
have to go
look at var/log/messages to see the results of the execution of the
command. 
One of them should produce messages indicating the parallel port zip
drive has been found. 
The messages will also tell you what device has been created.  This will
be an entry in the /dev folder.
Once I ran modprobe ppa,  a new /dev/sda4 folder appeared.  Make a note
of the folder name.  

2.  Create a mount point.  I added a folder named zip100.0 to /media
what I ended up was this
/media/zip100.0. 
This becomes the place where the directory of the zip drive will be
placed when you get the
kernel talking to the hardware. 

3.  Modify /etc/fstab.  This ties the device to the mount point.  I
modified fstab by adding the following line

/dev/sda4/media/zip100.0  vfat   auto,user,exec,sync 0 0

This tells the kernel to tie the device (/dev/sda4) to the mount point
(/media/zip100.0). 
It also says that the drive will be formatted using FAT,
that it should be automatically mounted
(which did not work so you might just as well put in noauto instead),
that any user can mount the drive, 
that you can execute binaries,
and that the mount occurs synchronously. 

4.  Now it is time to mount the drive.  Everything up to now is setting
up the plumbing to allow you to mount.
Stuff a zip disk in the drive, preferably one with data on it. 
From a shell, type mount /media/zip100.0
Now you should see the directory of the disk in /media/zip100.0.
Isn't linux wonderful?  And so easy too!

When you are done, issue the command umount /media/zip100.0.  You will
not be able to eject the disk until you
unmount it.  Note, unmount is umount not unmount. 

5.  There are only two problems remaining.  The first is that it sucks
to have to enter modprobe ppa or modprobe imm every
time you boot.  To fix this, in /etc/init.d/boot.local, add either
modprobe ppa or modprobe imm.   This will
cause the command to be automatically executed at boot time.

6.  The remaining problem is that you might wish there was an icon on
your desktop you could click to view the drive contents
in  Konqueror.  It turns out to be surprisingly easy to add this.   

Right click on the desktop.  Select Create New and then Link to Device
and then Zip Device. 
In the Devices tab, select the device (/dev/sda4) and you are done.  An
icon will be created.

How to test your new zip drive installation

Stuff a disk in the drive. 
Click the new icon on the desktop. 
Konqueror should come up with the drive contents.  You should be able to
add and delete files and folders.

When you are done, right click on the icon and select either eject or
unmount.  
Eject should unmount the drive and then eject it. 
For me eject did not always do the eject but it did always unmount it. 
You can always eject it manually. 

Problems.

For some reason modprobe ppa did not work at first. 
Or maybe it did but I didn't know enough about what to look for because
the result was in messages. 
I'm not sure what happened there.
Also sometimes, the whole thing stops working and you cannot read or
unmount or eject.  I had to reboot when this happened. 
Restarting KDE did not work. 

I hope this helps.  Unfortunately I no longer have my zip drive or any
disks. 
I only had the system long enough to see if any old disks I had laying
around had any useful data on them.

I will still try to help, especially in the short term while my memory
is still good!  HA!

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Re: [opensuse] Moving /home to root partition

On Mon, 2007-06-18 at 23:46 +0100, David Bolt wrote:
 On Mon, 18 Jun 2007, James Knott wrote:-
 
 Bob Kline wrote:
  Mohammad Bhuyan wrote:
  Hi,
 
 
  I have the /home on its own partition, but I need to move it to the
 root
  partition without losing data,
 
  I am not an expert but I was thinking if the following should work
 
  1. To be on the safe side get out of x (ex: init 3) 
 
  Wouldn't it be even safer to boot from a live CD?
 
 
 As long as only root is logged in, init 3 is fine.
 
 You can't guarantee that other users won't log in while you're busy
 doing the changes while in runlevel 3 or 5.

You can when it's your home PC and you are the only one that uses it.

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Re: [opensuse] Moving /home to root partition

Kenneth Schneider wrote:
 On Mon, 2007-06-18 at 23:46 +0100, David Bolt wrote:
   
 You can't guarantee that other users won't log in while you're busy
 doing the changes while in runlevel 3 or 5.
 

 You can when it's your home PC and you are the only one that uses it.

   
Well, you can't be too sure with my cat!  ;-)


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Re: [opensuse] Re: USB device error

2007-06-18 Thread Darryl Gregorash

On 06/18/2007 04:20 PM, Mike McMullin wrote:
 On Mon, 2007-06-18 at 21:54 +0100, Philip Kisloff wrote:
   
 snip

 Patch submitted
 http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/gregkh/usb/2.6/2.6.20-rc3/usb-storage-unusual_devs-add-supertop-drives.patch
  
 I should not expect that the device won't work with any earlier kernel. I 
 guess I don't want to mess 
 with a kernel upgrade until I do a full backup, so I'm looking for a new 
 storgae device.
 

   About the kernel upgrade, keep an eye peeled for a new kernel in the
 on-line updates, and see if it matches the version numbers listed above,
   
That is unlikely ever to happen. Opensuse 10.2 was distributed with
2.6.18, and the best that can be hoped for is that the patch will be
backported to that kernel version -- maybe, but don't count on that
either. Greg Kroah-Hartman signed off on the cited patch, and he's at
suse.de.

The current factory kernel is 2.6.22-rc4, which presumably has the patch
applied. I would suggest fetching the src.rpm for that and seeing if it
will compile in 10.2.

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Re: [opensuse] Moving /home to root partition

* James Knott [EMAIL PROTECTED] [06-18-07 19:57]:
 Well, you can't be too sure with my cat!  ;-)


I'll lend you my Jack Russell and you won't have to worry about the
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[opensuse] Review of 10.3 Alpha 5?

2007-06-18 Thread Mohammad Bhuyan


Hi,

Anybody knows of any good review of 10.3 Alpha 5? Some KDE (KDE4?) screenshots?

Regards,

Mohammad
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Re: [opensuse] Linux supports parallel port scanner!

On Monday 18 June 2007 18:25, Clark Sann wrote:
 Charles Obler wrote:
  --- Rajko M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I'll write article on openSUSE wiki about parallel
  port scanner installation,
  but I have no ZIP drive and I can't do much to
  rescue information how to
  install them. Your experience can help to people
  like you to give second life
  to their ZIP drives.
 
  --
  Regards,
  Rajko.
 
  Wow!  I HAVE a parallel port scanner with M$ driver
  disk.  I tried to find a way to get the scanner to
  work with Linux, but finally gave up.
 
  When you write the article, it will be very helpful to
  me!  Thanks!
 
 
 
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 It turned out to be very easy to make my 100 MB Parallel port zip drive
 work.
 Here are 6 simple steps along with some comments

 1.  From a root shell, run modprobe ppa and modprobe imm.
 One of them should work to install the drivers for your parallel port
 zip drive.

 ( I guess install the drivers is accurate??
 I am a little fuzzy as to just what it is that modprobe does.
 I'm even more fuzzy about what insmod does.)

 For me, imm did not work, but ppa did.

 My research showed that imm only works for newer drives.  Mine is REAL
 old.

 I don't really understand why, but when running modprobe, the results of
 the modprobe
 command are not shown in the terminal window.  Goofy linux.  Instead you
 have to go
 look at var/log/messages to see the results of the execution of the
 command.

Now is the time for new command:
  man modprobe
will list manual for command modprobe. More:
  http://en.opensuse.org/Manual_Pages
and
  http://en.opensuse.org/Linux_Documentation

and finaly
  modprobe -v ppa
will produce more onscreen output. Though it will be what modprobe is doing, 
for ppa module is still /var/log/messages first source. 

 One of them should produce messages indicating the parallel port zip
 drive has been found.
 The messages will also tell you what device has been created.  This will
 be an entry in the /dev folder.
 Once I ran modprobe ppa,  a new /dev/sda4 folder appeared.  Make a note
 of the folder name.

 2.  Create a mount point.  I added a folder named zip100.0 to /media
 what I ended up was this
 /media/zip100.0.
 This becomes the place where the directory of the zip drive will be
 placed when you get the
 kernel talking to the hardware.

 3.  Modify /etc/fstab.  This ties the device to the mount point.  I
 modified fstab by adding the following line

 /dev/sda4/media/zip100.0  vfat   auto,user,exec,sync 0
 0

 This tells the kernel to tie the device (/dev/sda4) to the mount point
 (/media/zip100.0).
 It also says that the drive will be formatted using FAT,
 that it should be automatically mounted
 (which did not work so you might just as well put in noauto instead),
 that any user can mount the drive,
 that you can execute binaries,
 and that the mount occurs synchronously.

 4.  Now it is time to mount the drive.  Everything up to now is setting
 up the plumbing to allow you to mount.
 Stuff a zip disk in the drive, preferably one with data on it.
 From a shell, type mount /media/zip100.0
 Now you should see the directory of the disk in /media/zip100.0.
 Isn't linux wonderful?  And so easy too!

 When you are done, issue the command umount /media/zip100.0.  You will
 not be able to eject the disk until you
 unmount it.  Note, unmount is umount not unmount.

 5.  There are only two problems remaining.  The first is that it sucks
 to have to enter modprobe ppa or modprobe imm every
 time you boot.  To fix this, in /etc/init.d/boot.local, add either
 modprobe ppa or modprobe imm.   This will
 cause the command to be automatically executed at boot time.

 6.  The remaining problem is that you might wish there was an icon on
 your desktop you could click to view the drive contents
 in  Konqueror.  It turns out to be surprisingly easy to add this.

 Right click on the desktop.  Select Create New and then Link to Device
 and then Zip Device.
 In the Devices tab, select the device (/dev/sda4) and you are done.  An
 icon will be created.

 How to test your new zip drive installation

 Stuff a disk in the drive.
 Click the new icon on the desktop.
 Konqueror should come up with the drive contents.  You should be able to
 add and delete files and folders.

 When you are done, right click on the icon and select either eject or
 unmount.
 Eject should unmount the drive and then eject it.
 For me eject did not always do the eject but it did always unmount it.
 You can always eject it manually.

 Problems.

 For some reason modprobe ppa did not work at first.
 Or maybe it did but I didn't know enough about what to look for because
 the result was in messages.
 I'm not sure what happened there.
 Also sometimes, the whole thing stops

Re: [opensuse] Moving /home to root partition

On Monday 18 June 2007 09:42, Gabriel wrote:
 Gabriel escribió:
  Bob Kline escribió:
  Mohammad Bhuyan wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I have the /home on its own partition, but I need to move it to the
  root partition without losing data,
 
  You should first go to init 1 (single user), unmount /home, move the
  data to the new location, modify fstab with the new settings (in this
  case simply remove the settings for /home) and then go back to init 5.
 
  Thats all.
 
  Regards.

 Sorry, remount /home with another name so you will be able to copy the
 data to a directory named /home on your root partition.

 This is the safest way, I don't recommend doing it on a multi-user mode
 (init 3)

It is safe as long as you are not logged in as normal user, and with init 3, 
shutting down the GUI will log you out. Root has it's home in /root and it 
doesn't present problem to move /home.

The single user mode should be used for instance to move /usr and Live CD to 
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2007-06-18 Thread email . listen

On Tue, 19. June 2007 01:25:56 Clark Sann wrote:
 Charles Obler wrote:
  --- Rajko M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I'll write article on openSUSE wiki about parallel
  port scanner installation,
  but I have no ZIP drive and I can't do much to
  rescue information how to
  install them. Your experience can help to people
  like you to give second life
  to their ZIP drives.
 
  --
  Regards,
  Rajko.
 
  Wow!  I HAVE a parallel port scanner with M$ driver
  disk.  I tried to find a way to get the scanner to
  work with Linux, but finally gave up.
 
  When you write the article, it will be very helpful to
  me!  Thanks!
 
 
 
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 It turned out to be very easy to make my 100 MB Parallel port zip drive
 work.
 Here are 6 simple steps along with some comments

 1.  From a root shell, run modprobe ppa and modprobe imm.
 One of them should work to install the drivers for your parallel port
 zip drive.

 ( I guess install the drivers is accurate??
 I am a little fuzzy as to just what it is that modprobe does.
 I'm even more fuzzy about what insmod does.)

 For me, imm did not work, but ppa did.

 My research showed that imm only works for newer drives.  Mine is REAL
 old.

 I don't really understand why, but when running modprobe, the results of
 the modprobe
 command are not shown in the terminal window.  Goofy linux.  Instead you
 have to go
 look at var/log/messages to see the results of the execution of the
 command.
 One of them should produce messages indicating the parallel port zip
 drive has been found.
 The messages will also tell you what device has been created.  This will
 be an entry in the /dev folder.
 Once I ran modprobe ppa,  a new /dev/sda4 folder appeared.  Make a note
 of the folder name.

 2.  Create a mount point.  I added a folder named zip100.0 to /media
 what I ended up was this
 /media/zip100.0.
 This becomes the place where the directory of the zip drive will be
 placed when you get the
 kernel talking to the hardware.

 3.  Modify /etc/fstab.  This ties the device to the mount point.  I
 modified fstab by adding the following line

 /dev/sda4/media/zip100.0  vfat   auto,user,exec,sync 0
 0

 This tells the kernel to tie the device (/dev/sda4) to the mount point
 (/media/zip100.0).
 It also says that the drive will be formatted using FAT,
 that it should be automatically mounted
 (which did not work so you might just as well put in noauto instead),
 that any user can mount the drive,
 that you can execute binaries,
 and that the mount occurs synchronously.

 4.  Now it is time to mount the drive.  Everything up to now is setting
 up the plumbing to allow you to mount.
 Stuff a zip disk in the drive, preferably one with data on it.
 From a shell, type mount /media/zip100.0
 Now you should see the directory of the disk in /media/zip100.0.
 Isn't linux wonderful?  And so easy too!

 When you are done, issue the command umount /media/zip100.0.  You will
 not be able to eject the disk until you
 unmount it.  Note, unmount is umount not unmount.

 5.  There are only two problems remaining.  The first is that it sucks
 to have to enter modprobe ppa or modprobe imm every
 time you boot.  To fix this, in /etc/init.d/boot.local, add either
 modprobe ppa or modprobe imm.   This will
 cause the command to be automatically executed at boot time.

The correct place for loading kernel modules on boot is /etc/modules

---8--- /etc/modules ---8--- 
# /etc/modules: kernel modules to load at boot time.
#
# This file contains the names of kernel modules that should be loaded
# at boot time, one per line. Lines beginning with # are ignored.
ppa
#imm
---8---   ---8---   ---8--- 


 6.  The remaining problem is that you might wish there was an icon on
 your desktop you could click to view the drive contents
 in  Konqueror.  It turns out to be surprisingly easy to add this.

 Right click on the desktop.  Select Create New and then Link to Device
 and then Zip Device.
 In the Devices tab, select the device (/dev/sda4) and you are done.  An
 icon will be created.

 How to test your new zip drive installation

 Stuff a disk in the drive.
 Click the new icon on the desktop.
 Konqueror should come up with the drive contents.  You should be able to
 add and delete files and folders.

 When you are done, right click on the icon and select either eject or
 unmount.
 Eject should unmount the drive and then eject it.
 For me eject did not always do the eject but it did always unmount it.
 You can always eject it manually.

 Problems.

 For some reason modprobe ppa did not work at first.
 Or maybe it did but I didn't know enough about what to look for because
 the result was in messages.
 I'm not sure what happened there.
 Also sometimes, the whole thing stops working and you

Re: [opensuse] Moving /home to root partition

2007-06-18 Thread Randall R Schulz

On Monday 18 June 2007 17:03, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
 * James Knott [EMAIL PROTECTED] [06-18-07 19:57]:
  Well, you can't be too sure with my cat!  ;-)

 I'll lend you my Jack Russell and you won't have to worry about the
 cat  :^)

Ah... Very funny. Half the cats in America are bigger than a Jack 
Russell terrier. 98% of them are fiercer. And cats have claws...

Oh, wait. I was confusing a Corgi with a Jack Russell (no real reason, 
just my ignorance).

One third of the cats in America are bigger than a Jack Russell and 95% 
are fiercer.

It hardly seems worthwhile to sacrifice your pet...

After all, they make software to detect cat typing and disable your 
keyboard. Better that than than a dog funeral or hospital bill.


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Re: [opensuse] Moving /home to root partition (solved and working!!!)

2007-06-18 Thread Fernando Costa

Thank you all for your answers, i'm learning a lot with all guys and I
appreciate a lot. I used the method suggested by Ed and let me say it
works just great!!!

With guys like you even a newbie like me can do anything in linux... For
those who want to know, I'm installing different distros in my laptop
and as I can't share the same home for every distro I prefer each distro
has its own home within its own partition and add a soft link to other
partition where my data is stored... just that

Thanks again,

Ed Harrison wrote:
 James Knott wrote:
   
 Carlos E. R. wrote:
   
 
 The Monday 2007-06-18 at 07:13 +0200, Jon Clausen wrote:

 
   
 cp -a /mnt/* /home/
   
 
 I prefer rsync:

 rsync -av /mnt/ /home/

 It maintains stamps. It can be halted and restarted without copying what
 already exists.

 
   
 I thought cp -a preserved time stamps.  Take a look at the -p option,
 which -a includes.

   
 
 Try this.  I have used it for years.

 Log out of X
 Change to a tty CTL-ALT-F2
 Log In as root
 init 3
 cd /
 mkdir home1
 cd home
 find ./* -xdev | cpio -pdmv /home1/
 umount /home
 cd /
 rmdir /home (it is now an empty directory)
 mv /home1 /home
 edit /etc/fstab to remove mounting of /dev/xxx to /home.
 init 5

 You should be up and running.

 Ed Harrison
   
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 One third of the cats in America are bigger than a Jack Russell and 95% 
 are fiercer.
 
 It hardly seems worthwhile to sacrifice your pet...

But the Jack would give it a go.  They are massifs in puppy body  :^)
Mine has killed two coons and a possum defending the bird feeders

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Patrick Shanahan wrote:
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 Well, you can't be too sure with my cat!  ;-)
 


 I'll lend you my Jack Russell and you won't have to worry about the
 cat  :^)

   
Compared to my cat, your dog's a wimp!  ;-)


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The Monday 2007-06-18 at 18:25 -0500, Clark Sann wrote:

 It turned out to be very easy to make my 100 MB Parallel port zip drive
 work. 
 Here are 6 simple steps along with some comments
 
 1.  From a root shell, run modprobe ppa and modprobe imm. 

That should be or.

 One of them should work to install the drivers for your parallel port
 zip drive.  

Right.


 ( I guess install the drivers is accurate?? 

No, it loads the driver, or rather, module, which was already 
installed with the kernel. It is an integral part of the kernel, in 
module form.

 I am a little fuzzy as to just what it is that modprobe does. 
 I'm even more fuzzy about what insmod does.)

Let's just say that the former has some intelligence and can load extra 
modules if necessary, with options, while insmod is dumb, or rather lower 
level if you like.

 For me, imm did not work, but ppa did. 
 
 My research showed that imm only works for newer drives.  Mine is REAL
 old. 

Yes, that's correct, ppa is the old version.

 
 I don't really understand why, but when running modprobe, the results of 
 the modprobe command are not shown in the terminal window.  Goofy linux.  

Classic Linux commands doesn't say any thing if all went well ;-)

 Instead you have to go look at var/log/messages to see the results of 
 the execution of the command. One of them should produce messages 
 indicating the parallel port zip drive has been found. The messages will 
 also tell you what device has been created.  This will be an entry in 
 the /dev folder. Once I ran modprobe ppa, a new /dev/sda4 folder 
 appeared.  Make a note of the folder name.

Or just use the folder straight away.

 
 2.  Create a mount point.  I added a folder named zip100.0 to /media
 what I ended up was this
 /media/zip100.0. 

 This becomes the place where the directory of the zip drive will be 
 placed when you get the kernel talking to the hardware.
 
 3.  Modify /etc/fstab.  This ties the device to the mount point.  I
 modified fstab by adding the following line
 
 /dev/sda4/media/zip100.0  vfat   auto,user,exec,sync 0 0
 
 This tells the kernel to tie the device (/dev/sda4) to the mount point
 (/media/zip100.0). 
 It also says that the drive will be formatted using FAT, that it should 
 be automatically mounted (which did not work so you might just as well 
 put in noauto instead),

It will probably be mounted as soon as you load the ppa module. This can 
be done on boot if wanted.

 that any user can mount the drive, that you can execute binaries, and 
 that the mount occurs synchronously.


I prefer to use noexec for vfat mounts. I don't like all files be 
thought as executables in vfat dirs.

 
 4.  Now it is time to mount the drive.  Everything up to now is setting
 up the plumbing to allow you to mount.

 Stuff a zip disk in the drive, preferably one with data on it. From a 
 shell, type mount /media/zip100.0 Now you should see the directory of 
 the disk in /media/zip100.0. Isn't linux wonderful?  And so easy too!

Yep! :-)


 When you are done, issue the command umount /media/zip100.0.  You will
 not be able to eject the disk until you
 unmount it.  Note, unmount is umount not unmount. 
 
 5.  There are only two problems remaining.  The first is that it sucks
 to have to enter modprobe ppa or modprobe imm every
 time you boot.  To fix this, in /etc/init.d/boot.local, add either
 modprobe ppa or modprobe imm.   This will
 cause the command to be automatically executed at boot time.

Yes, if you have the drive connected permanently.

 How to test your new zip drive installation

Ah, I think there are some extra zip tools in the mtools suite: look up 
mzip. You can, for instance, write-protect a disc, for instance - but I 
never tried. And they say it is buggy :-}


 Eject should unmount the drive and then eject it. 
 For me eject did not always do the eject but it did always unmount it. 
 You can always eject it manually. 

Try using eject a second time.


 Also sometimes, the whole thing stops working and you cannot read or
 unmount or eject.  I had to reboot when this happened. 

Maybe because you loaded both modules and they conflicted. Also, how the 
parallel port is defined in the BIOS has an important effect: it may use 
only 4 bits to communicate with the drive, or 8 bits, or try to use dma - 
the last doesn't work with mine.


 Restarting KDE did not work. 
 
 I hope this helps.  Unfortunately I no longer have my zip drive or any
 disks. 
 I only had the system long enough to see if any old disks I had laying
 around had any useful data on them.

I should do that and move data to CDs...

 
 I will still try to help, especially in the short term while my memory
 is still good!  HA!

I'm going from memory in this respect, too. I haven't used it for more 
than a year. I could easily be wrong on details.

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The Monday 2007-06-18 at 19:50 -0500, Rajko M. wrote:

  This is the safest way, I don't recommend doing it on a multi-user mode
  (init 3)
 
 It is safe as long as you are not logged in as normal user, and with init 3, 
 shutting down the GUI will log you out. Root has it's home in /root and it 
 doesn't present problem to move /home.
 
 The single user mode should be used for instance to move /usr and Live CD to 
 copy whole system to another partition. 

Level 2 is safer for this case: no network, no remote logins; but you 
still have multiple text consoles. Anyway, the system will not allw 
umounting /home if it is in use.

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The Tuesday 2007-06-19 at 03:00 +0200, Fernando Costa wrote:

 Thank you all for your answers, i'm learning a lot with all guys and I
 appreciate a lot. I used the method suggested by Ed and let me say it
 works just great!!!

Hey, did you know that there is a whole howto dedicated to this very 
subject? ;-)

 With guys like you even a newbie like me can do anything in linux... For
 those who want to know, I'm installing different distros in my laptop
 and as I can't share the same home for every distro 

Actually, you can... sort of. Some people do so, but I don't like it.

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Re: [opensuse] What is this problem?

2007-06-18 Thread Bob S

On Monday 18 June 2007 03:39, Michael Schroeder wrote:
 On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 01:44:10AM -0400, Bob S wrote:
  Hello SuSE people,
 
  I recently added a KDE repo to my smart channels.(see thread smart
  channels disabled)  after having it disappear somehow. Did my update and
  tried to upgrade. Got the following message. (partial)(excuse the
  wrapping please)
 
  Committing transaction...
  Preparing...
   [  0%]
  error: file /opt/kde3/lib/kde3/cupsdconf.la from install of
  kdelibs3-3.5.7-35.1 conflicts with file from package
  kdelibs3-32bit-3.5.5-45.4

 You're trying to install both kdelibs3.i586 and kdelibs3-32bit.x86_64.
 This can't work, either delete kdelibs3-32bit.x86_64 or install
 kdelibs3.x86_64.

 Cheers,
   Michael.

Thanks for replying Michael.

Wel, that is not my idea. Smart made up that list for the upgrade.
I guess you are right and now will have to download the packages
individually and install them.

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On Monday 18 June 2007 10:54, Charles Obler wrote:

 I HAVE a parallel port scanner with M$ driver
 disk.  I tried to find a way to get the scanner to
 work with Linux, but finally gave up.  

 When you write the article, it will be very helpful to
 me!  Thanks!

The article will cover one vendor and one model that work for sure:
  Microtek  -  Slimscan C6
if you post your scanner model than we can make sure it works and than there 
will be 2 that work :-)

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On Monday 18 June 2007 21:01, Carlos E. R. wrote:
 The Tuesday 2007-06-19 at 03:00 +0200, Fernando Costa wrote:
  Thank you all for your answers, i'm learning a lot with all guys and I
  appreciate a lot. I used the method suggested by Ed and let me say it
  works just great!!!

 Hey, did you know that there is a whole howto dedicated to this very
 subject? ;-)

  With guys like you even a newbie like me can do anything in linux... For
  those who want to know, I'm installing different distros in my laptop
  and as I can't share the same home for every distro

 Actually, you can... sort of. Some people do so, but I don't like it.

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I use the same /home, but users are different ;-)

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Re: [opensuse] Linux supports parallel port scanner!

2007-06-18 Thread Clark Sann

Carlos E. R. wrote:

 The Monday 2007-06-18 at 18:25 -0500, Clark Sann wrote:

  It turned out to be very easy to make my 100 MB Parallel port zip drive
  work.
  Here are 6 simple steps along with some comments

  1.  From a root shell, run modprobe ppa and modprobe imm.

 That should be or.

  One of them should work to install the drivers for your parallel port
  zip drive.  

 Right.


  ( I guess install the drivers is accurate??

 No, it loads the driver, or rather, module, which was already
 installed with the kernel. It is an integral part of the kernel, in
 module form.

  I am a little fuzzy as to just what it is that modprobe does.
  I'm even more fuzzy about what insmod does.)

 Let's just say that the former has some intelligence and can load extra
 modules if necessary, with options, while insmod is dumb, or rather
 lower
 level if you like.

  For me, imm did not work, but ppa did.

  My research showed that imm only works for newer drives.  Mine is REAL
  old.

 Yes, that's correct, ppa is the old version.

  I don't really understand why, but when running modprobe, the
 results of
  the modprobe command are not shown in the terminal window.  Goofy
 linux.  

 Classic Linux commands doesn't say any thing if all went well ;-)

  Instead you have to go look at var/log/messages to see the results of
  the execution of the command. One of them should produce messages
  indicating the parallel port zip drive has been found. The messages
 will
  also tell you what device has been created.  This will be an entry in
  the /dev folder. Once I ran modprobe ppa, a new /dev/sda4 folder
  appeared.  Make a note of the folder name.

 Or just use the folder straight away.

  2.  Create a mount point.  I added a folder named zip100.0 to /media
  what I ended up was this
  /media/zip100.0.

  This becomes the place where the directory of the zip drive will be
  placed when you get the kernel talking to the hardware.

  3.  Modify /etc/fstab.  This ties the device to the mount point.  I
  modified fstab by adding the following line

  /dev/sda4/media/zip100.0  vfat  
 auto,user,exec,sync 0 0

  This tells the kernel to tie the device (/dev/sda4) to the mount point
  (/media/zip100.0).
  It also says that the drive will be formatted using FAT, that it should
  be automatically mounted (which did not work so you might just as well
  put in noauto instead),

 It will probably be mounted as soon as you load the ppa module. This can
 be done on boot if wanted.

  that any user can mount the drive, that you can execute binaries, and
  that the mount occurs synchronously.


 I prefer to use noexec for vfat mounts. I don't like all files be
 thought as executables in vfat dirs.

  4.  Now it is time to mount the drive.  Everything up to now is setting
  up the plumbing to allow you to mount.

  Stuff a zip disk in the drive, preferably one with data on it. From a
  shell, type mount /media/zip100.0 Now you should see the directory of
  the disk in /media/zip100.0. Isn't linux wonderful?  And so easy too!

 Yep! :-)


  When you are done, issue the command umount /media/zip100.0.  You will
  not be able to eject the disk until you
  unmount it.  Note, unmount is umount not unmount.

  5.  There are only two problems remaining.  The first is that it sucks
  to have to enter modprobe ppa or modprobe imm every
  time you boot.  To fix this, in /etc/init.d/boot.local, add either
  modprobe ppa or modprobe imm.   This will
  cause the command to be automatically executed at boot time.

 Yes, if you have the drive connected permanently.

  How to test your new zip drive installation

 Ah, I think there are some extra zip tools in the mtools suite: look up
 mzip. You can, for instance, write-protect a disc, for instance - but I
 never tried. And they say it is buggy :-}


  Eject should unmount the drive and then eject it.
  For me eject did not always do the eject but it did always unmount it.
  You can always eject it manually.

 Try using eject a second time.


  Also sometimes, the whole thing stops working and you cannot read or
  unmount or eject.  I had to reboot when this happened.

 Maybe because you loaded both modules and they conflicted. Also, how the
 parallel port is defined in the BIOS has an important effect: it may use
 only 4 bits to communicate with the drive, or 8 bits, or try to use dma -
 the last doesn't work with mine.


  Restarting KDE did not work.

  I hope this helps.  Unfortunately I no longer have my zip drive or any
  disks.
  I only had the system long enough to see if any old disks I had laying
  around had any useful data on them.

 I should do that and move data to CDs...

  I will still try to help, especially in the short term while my memory
  is still good!  HA!

 I'm going from memory in this respect, too. I haven't used it for more
 than a year. I could easily be wrong on details.

Just a couple further questions regarding everyones

Re: [opensuse] Moving /home to root partition

Hi Ken,

On Monday 18 June 2007 07:30, Kenneth Schneider wrote:
 On Mon, 2007-06-18 at 00:01 -0500, Rajko M. wrote:
  On Sunday 17 June 2007 23:01, Rajko M. wrote:
 init 3
 mkdir home1
 cp home home1
 
  cp -R /home/* home1

ops cp -a /home/* /home1
 ^^^
One slash was missing and -a as suggested in another post. 

 
 umount /home
 mv home1 home
 
  mv /home1/* /home

 mv /home1 /home   is correct. This is the rename incarnation of mv.

It would be after: 
 rm -R /home 
with present /home it will make 
 /home/home1
This was tested as I didn't want to repeat a mistake. 
So I made another one :-D

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On Monday 18 June 2007 21:38, Clark Sann wrote:
 Just a couple further questions regarding everyones comments

 Regarding etc/modules.  I don't have that file.  Is that unusual?  Can I
 just create it if I need it?

etc/modules doesn't exist in openSUSE

   ls -w1 /etc/mod*
modprobe.conf
modprobe.conf.local
modprobe.d:
here is listing of files in modprobe.d directory

The recommendation is to put your modules in /etc/modprobe.conf.local, but 
the /etc/init.d/boot.local works too for simple cases like this one. 

 With respect to the problems I was having, I recall there was one disk,
 I think it was a tools disk...it came with the Iomega drive.  Whenever I
 put that disk in and then tried to mount it, something bad happened and
 it wouldn't mount.  Neither would any other disks until I rebooted.  I
 have a hunch it was some weird format, something other than vfat.  It
 has been so long since I had one of these drives on Win, I just can't
 remember what was special about that disk.  I bet that the suggestion to
 rmmod and modprobe would have worked.  Unfortunately, I don't have the
 drive any longer so I can't test.

Now I know what happened, I'm not so sure that driver reload would work. 
Maybe. 

There must be some trace in /var/log/messages what happened when command mount 
tried to mount that disk, and that is what you still have ;-)

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2007-06-18 Thread Clark Sann

Rajko M. wrote:
 On Monday 18 June 2007 21:38, Clark Sann wrote:
   
 Just a couple further questions regarding everyones comments

 Regarding etc/modules.  I don't have that file.  Is that unusual?  Can I
 just create it if I need it?
 

 etc/modules doesn't exist in openSUSE

ls -w1 /etc/mod*
 modprobe.conf
 modprobe.conf.local
 modprobe.d:
 here is listing of files in modprobe.d directory

 The recommendation is to put your modules in /etc/modprobe.conf.local, but 
 the /etc/init.d/boot.local works too for simple cases like this one. 

   
 With respect to the problems I was having, I recall there was one disk,
 I think it was a tools disk...it came with the Iomega drive.  Whenever I
 put that disk in and then tried to mount it, something bad happened and
 it wouldn't mount.  Neither would any other disks until I rebooted.  I
 have a hunch it was some weird format, something other than vfat.  It
 has been so long since I had one of these drives on Win, I just can't
 remember what was special about that disk.  I bet that the suggestion to
 rmmod and modprobe would have worked.  Unfortunately, I don't have the
 drive any longer so I can't test.
 

 Now I know what happened, I'm not so sure that driver reload would work. 
 Maybe. 

 There must be some trace in /var/log/messages what happened when command 
 mount 
 tried to mount that disk, and that is what you still have ;-)

   

Just looked at messages.  Found a few like this...

Jun 17 15:36:41 dell8600 kernel: SCSI device sda: 196608 512-byte hdwr
sectors (101 MB)
Jun 17 15:36:41 dell8600 kernel: sda: Write Protect is off
Jun 17 15:36:41 dell8600 kernel: sda: Mode Sense: 25 00 00 08
Jun 17 15:36:41 dell8600 kernel: sda: cache data unavailable
Jun 17 15:36:41 dell8600 kernel: sda: assuming drive cache: write through
Jun 17 15:36:41 dell8600 kernel:  sda: sda4
Jun 17 15:37:31 dell8600 kernel: SCSI device sda: 196608 512-byte hdwr
sectors (101 MB)
Jun 17 15:37:31 dell8600 kernel: sda: Write Protect is off
Jun 17 15:37:31 dell8600 kernel: sda: Mode Sense: 25 00 00 08
Jun 17 15:37:31 dell8600 kernel: sda: cache data unavailable
Jun 17 15:37:31 dell8600 kernel: sda: assuming drive cache: write through
Jun 17 15:37:31 dell8600 kernel: SCSI device sda: 196608 512-byte hdwr
sectors (101 MB)
Jun 17 15:37:31 dell8600 kernel: sda: Write Protect is off
Jun 17 15:37:31 dell8600 kernel: sda: Mode Sense: 25 00 00 08
Jun 17 15:37:31 dell8600 kernel: sda: cache data unavailable
Jun 17 15:37:31 dell8600 kernel: sda: assuming drive cache: write through
Jun 17 15:37:31 dell8600 kernel:  sda: sda1
Jun 17 15:38:20 dell8600 su: (to root) clark on /dev/pts/1
Jun 17 15:39:27 dell8600 shutdown[4353]: shutting down for system reboot

Notice the sda:sda1 right before I shutdown.   I am guessing  that
sda1 means a different format than sda4 but a quick google isn't telling
me much about the difference.

Clark

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On Monday 18 June 2007 22:40, Clark Sann wrote:

 Notice the sda:sda1 right before I shutdown.   I am guessing  that
 sda1 means a different format than sda4 but a quick google isn't telling
 me much about the difference.

It is a different partition, and as service disk it is probably bootable and 
that would be the reason to use /dev/sda1, first partition on disk where BIOS 
would look for a boot code.

Log is interrupted when /dev/sda1 should be mounted. 
Why? I'm really not familiar with this. 
 
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2007-06-18 Thread Robert Smits

On Wednesday 23 May 2007 11:00, Dylan wrote:
 Please, can't you people find something more important to worry about in
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Dylan, you need to understand that those who make off-topic posts are just 
rude and inconsiderate people who waste everyone's time and goodwill. The 
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Re: [opensuse] Assembly Language program

2007-06-18 Thread Carl Spitzer

On Sun, 2007-06-10 at 19:57 -0400, John Ross wrote:
 John Ross wrote:
 
 Carl Spitzer wrote:
  On Sun, 2007-06-03 at 19:43 +0100, Vince L wrote:

   On Sunday 03 June 2007 18:06, jdd wrote:
   
too many oldtimer, here :-)))

  
   Punched cards, anyone?
   
  
  IBM 360 / 370 Assembler with a green card guide at Cal Poly San Louis
  Obispo.
  
  

 How about an IBM 407a -- whopping 90 card per minute read rate.  The
 program was a 14 by 24 board made of bakelight
 like a car spark plug distributor -- with holes like a peg board --
 which held snap pluged wires that combined 1/2 adders and
 controlled multiple accumulator registers

An old timer told me about those things and the roaches which used to
eat the wires causing shorts, hence the term debugging.

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