Re: [opensuse-factory] C++/g++ compile problem

2007-06-23 Thread Robert Schiele
On Sat, Jun 23, 2007 at 09:27:24AM -0500, Donn Washburn wrote:
 Hey Group;
 
 SuSE 10.3Alpha4 rpm -q = gcc-4.1.3-46 updated with Yast2
 
 I think I have tracked out a problem with gcc 4.2 and c++.
 Two different programs that require C++ are dying at the c++ -V

What do you mean with 'the c++ -V test'?

 test.  If I try it directly C++ -V it states it needs a argument

If you call C++ it generally should state that an executable called C++
does not exist.

 I tried c++ -V somegarbage.  c++ reported a error stating that it 
 could not find i586-suse-linux-gcc-somegarbage.  locate find no
 i586-suse-linux-gcc-.  However, /usr/i586-suse-linux is there.

Sure.  openSUSE does not ship with a gcc version somegarbage.

 Anyone else seen a problem of this type?

Which problem? That you get error messages when you call tools with incorrect
parameters? That's pretty standard behavior.

Robert

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[opensuse-factory] Re: How can we integrate OpenVZ into openSUSE ?

2007-06-23 Thread Alexey Eremenko

I believe SUSE should not be limited by Xen-only approach.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] How can we integrate OpenVZ into openSUSE ?

2007-06-23 Thread Greg KH
On Sat, Jun 23, 2007 at 09:58:41PM +0300, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
  hi all !
 
  I'm very interested in integrating light-weight virtualization
  (containerization) into openSUSE !
 
  OpenVZ looks very promising technology, but how can we pack it with openSUSE 
  ?

The openvz people already create opensuse kernels to support this, look
in the build service.

thanks,

greg k-h
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: How can we integrate OpenVZ into openSUSE ?

2007-06-23 Thread Cristian Rodriguez R.
Alexey Eremenko escribió:
 I believe SUSE should not be limited by Xen-only approach.
 

and I believe openSUSE should do one thing, and do it right, not many
half working virtualization alternatives.




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Re: [opensuse] SAX2 problem.

2007-06-23 Thread Benji Weber

On 23/06/07, Fred A. Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I decided to upgrade a video card in a beast today.an HP Athalon
65-bit dual core box with 1G RAM, SATA, etc. The nVidia 9450 chipset is
on the MOB. I dropped a PNY GeForce 8500GT PCI-E 16X in it. I'd already
d'ld the install script from nVidia, so was ready to compile a module.
The compile went like clockwork, but sax2 can't see the card properly,
thus software like Compiz can't be setup. Apparently, sax2 isn't
intelligent enough to recognize the card and work with an installed
module. Thanks to nVidia, the card runs like a rapped ape and with 3D
support.


Did you try sax2 -m 0=nvidia or switch2nvidia ?

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Re: [opensuse] SAX2 problem.

2007-06-23 Thread Thomas Meindl
Fred A. Miller schrieb:
 I decided to upgrade a video card in a beast today.an HP Athalon
 65-bit dual core box with 1G RAM, SATA, etc. The nVidia 9450 chipset is
 on the MOB. I dropped a PNY GeForce 8500GT PCI-E 16X in it. I'd already
 d'ld the install script from nVidia, so was ready to compile a module.
 The compile went like clockwork, but sax2 can't see the card properly,
 thus software like Compiz can't be setup. Apparently, sax2 isn't
 intelligent enough to recognize the card and work with an installed
 module. Thanks to nVidia, the card runs like a rapped ape and with 3D
 support.

 Fred

   
What version of the driver are you using? Old drivers have a bug
regarding newer XOrg releases - they recognize xorg as xfree and install
the driver's files into wrong directories. What version of opensuse do have?

Kind regards, Tom

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Re: [opensuse] Postfix and Procmail soft-bouce or autoreply

2007-06-23 Thread Sandy Drobic
Dale Schuster wrote:
 Sandy Drobic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 06/22/2007 
 03:51:41 PM:
 
 After reading this I can understand very well just why you have trouble:
 the requirements are more than a bit weird and don't mesh well with 
 common
 sense and current SMTP practise.
 
 That is exactly why I'm red in the face and my forehead hurts from banging 
 the wall.

I feel for you, I was stuck in similar situations more than once. (^-^)

 Once you accept the mail you assume the responsibility for it. You could
 of course deliver the mail to the intended recipient and send back a 
 copy
 of the mail to the sender. Technically that is no problem. You simply 
 set
 up a transport for that domain where a script takes care to send back a
 copy to the sender.
 
 I even contemplated adding an additional mailhop relay whose sole task 
 would be formatting bounce messages.  But then I reconsidered.

Yes, the concept as it is must not be used.

  I really don't want to send the original message back to the sender, only
 send an informational message which can easily be done with Vacation as 
 you and others have pointed out.

Additionally it won't hurt as much if spam comes in since vacation only
sends a single mail to any sender within a week.

  This is a source of confusion for me too.  I'm not exactly sure where to
 look to accomplish Subject Rewrites.  I think that may be a suitable 
 compromise, but my requirements are specifically to add a tag in the 
 message.  Thank you for the ammunition I needed for arguing further.

The easiest way would probably to set up a procmail solution for that
task. It should be done after content_filter.
- check if spamlevel is not high, otherwise don't send to vacation
- rewrite subject

If you need to do more you will have to write a simple filter script that
handles the rewrites and lookups you need.


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Re: [opensuse] Postfix and Procmail soft-bouce or autoreply

2007-06-23 Thread Sandy Drobic
Carlos E. R. wrote:
 
 The Saturday 2007-06-23 at 00:51 +0200, Sandy Drobic wrote:
 
 ...
 
 Now, lets think about the most common mail that will likely end up in that
 situation: yes, I am talking about spam and viruses. (^-^)
 They always falsify the sender address. So if you send back a copy of the
 mail, you will turn into an excellent backscatter source.
 
 Which reminds me that amavis-new and/or fetchmail sometimes can bounce
 messages in full or partially. And reminds me that I have to check and
 verify this.
 
 However... bounce messages with full headers are sometimes very useful,
 for instance, to learn which is the subscribed address to this list that
 is bouncing. There are some bouncers I have seen that do not copy even the
 subject line, nor the sended-to address.

Unfortunately there are a lot of broken bouncers out there.

As a general rule I don't mind if messages from my internal users bounce.
They are authenticated, exist and want to receive bounces.

But I do my very best to only accept mails that I can also deliver.
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[opensuse] Re: simple LAN

2007-06-23 Thread Eberhard Roloff
Robert,

Robert Best wrote:
[...]
 No. I can't find it in YaST2 / Security and Users / Firewall.
 Yes, you can: ;-)

 Yast2 / Security and Users / Firewall / Allowed Services (for
 External Zone) / Service to allow / choose SSH from the List / klick
 on Add
 And: you are done!!
 
 Don't understand. I use fish (or sftp, not ssh) 

fish means: Konqueror Browsing via ssh (and scp). So if you want to
connect with fish, you first need to ensure that ssh works. Otherwise,
fish will not work. Period.


to transport files in
 the LAN which I suppose is in Internal, not External Zone. Port 22 is 
 never mentioned in these zones.
Try external (whatever that means), enable port 22 and I promise, you
are done within 30 seconds!

 I'd like to put the firewall between the LAN and the Internet.

This is, where it belongs! ;-)

 Currently I pull out the phone line from the router when I disable a 
 Firewall.

Imho this does not make sense.

Your router IS your firewall in the sense that it acts as such.

So you better go to your router configuration and look for firewall
settings.
In addition, while you are at it, you most probably can configure your
router to drop the connection after a certain amount of inactivity time.
This is where you should set up an idle timeout instead of physically
pluging the cable.

kind regards
Eberhard

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Re: [opensuse] Postfix and Procmail soft-bouce or autoreply

2007-06-23 Thread Sandy Drobic
Randall R Schulz wrote:
 On Friday 22 June 2007 16:10, Dale Schuster wrote:
 This is a source of confusion for me too.  I'm not exactly sure where
 to look to accomplish Subject Rewrites. ...
 
 It may not suit your other needs, but KMail filter actions can rewrite 
 headers.

KMail is a  user program, but here a server implementation is required.

Procmail can do most of that. Otherwise he needs a script that will
perform the neccessary operations.
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Re: [opensuse] Postfix and Procmail soft-bouce or autoreply

2007-06-23 Thread Sandy Drobic
Carlos E. R. wrote:
 
 The Friday 2007-06-22 at 16:10 -0700, Dale Schuster wrote:
 
 ...
 
 This is a source of confusion for me too.  I'm not exactly sure where to 
 look to accomplish Subject Rewrites.  I think that may be a suitable 
 compromise, but my requirements are specifically to add a tag in the 
 message.  Thank you for the ammunition I needed for arguing further.
 
 The subject can be modified using formail, I think, and it can be fired 
 from procmail.

Yes, that is probably the easiest way.

 relocated is coupled with recipient validation and will be evaluated at
 the same place in the order of restrictions. Either at the end of
 smtpd_recipient_restrictions or when you explicitely use
 reject_unlisted_recipient.
 Initially I was trying to use a relocated map from postfix, but I don't 
 want to broadcast what the new addresses are.
 
 You don't need the relocation message to give the new address directly: 
 you define the exact message. Which I don't have clear is how big it can 
 be: I think it is a single line, perhaps long.

No, if you use relocated the text is already hardcoded, you can't change it.
It's another situation alltogether if you simply reject the mail and add
the explanatory text as reject message. That line can be pretty long, long
enough to inform the sender and give a link to a more detailed web page.

smtpd_recipient_restrictions =
reject_non_fqdn_recipient,
reject_non_fqdn_sender,
permit_mynetworks,
permit_sasl_authenticated,
reject_unauth_destination
#   ... some more spam checks
check_recipient_access hash:/etc/postfix/domain_deprecated

/etc/postfix/domain_deprecated:
example.com reject Mails for example.com will no longer be accepted,
please visit http://example.com/domain_deprecated.html for details

The line after reject should be a single line.

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Re: [opensuse] GPRS Easy Connect and perl-Gnome2

2007-06-23 Thread Fazer
Dnia czwartek 21 czerwiec 2007, Dave Howorth napisał:
 Patrick Shanahan wrote:
  * Dave Howorth [EMAIL PROTECTED] [06-20-07 17:11]:
  I would install any Perl modules from CPAN.
 
  
 
  This link already tells you to use CPAN and gives direct links! But I'd
  use the cpan shell (man cpan for info) rather than install them manually
  or individually from the command line (follow 3.1.1.1.2 if you insist)
 
  the *usual* warnings should be applied here.
 
openSUSE *is* and rpm-based system.  Installation via cpan will
*not* be recognized by the rpm system and may cause conflicts and
breakage of installed items.  Updates via yast, smart or ??? will
not recognize the cpan installed items and may cause conflicts and
breakage of installed items.
Ok but I have a problem

/GPRS_Easy_Connect_301 # perl -MCPAN -e 'install Gtk2-1.081'
CPAN: Storable loaded ok
Going to read /root/.cpan/Metadata
  Database was generated on Sat, 23 Jun 2007 04:08:51 GMT
Warning: Cannot install -1.081, don't know what it is.
Try the command

i /-1.081/

to find objects with matching identifiers.

and:


/GPRS_Easy_Connect_301 #perl -MCPAN -e 'install Gtk2' 
*
*
*
  CPAN.pm: Going to build T/TS/TSCH/Gtk2-1.144.tar.gz

*** can not find package gtk+-2.0 = 2.0.0
*** check that it is properly installed and available in PKG_CONFIG_PATH
 at Makefile.PL line 67
Running make test
  Make had some problems, maybe interrupted? Won't test
Running make install
  Make had some problems, maybe interrupted? Won't install


but i have gtk2


/GPRS_Easy_Connect_301 #rpm -q gtk2
gtk2-2.10.6-13



 
  YOU have been WARNED!

 Have you ever encountered such a problem? This is another urban myth.

 I use Perl extensively, install all my modules from CPAN and have never
 seen this problem. The actual problems I do hear of mainly come from
 broken Perl packages shipped by some other distributions (not Suse :)

 Sure, on a production server, it's good practice to be very sure of
 versions, but in that environment the installation mechanism will follow
 whatever house policy is used for configuration management.

 Perl has an installation layout, which Suse and other distros follow,
 that is designed to prevent conflicts between modules installed from
 CPAN and modules installed via the distros' own mechanisms. YaST updates
 do not affect modules installed from CPAN and vice versa.

 Applications installed via YaST that use Perl modules can and should be
 configured in their packages such that they will not see Perl modules
 installed from CPAN if that would cause them a problem.

 Also, Perl programs run a large fraction of the web's infrastructure.
 The maintainers of important Perl modules take great care not to break
 backwards compatibility in the same way as for the C libraries etc.

 Cheers, Dave


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[opensuse] Re: Gotta Love that VM Ware!

2007-06-23 Thread Eberhard Roloff
Kai Ponte wrote:
 Just an update on my Vista laptop that I wanted to switch over to
 SUSE.  One of the things I needed it to do was run our main
 application, written in .net but requiring many Windows-based
 controls.
 
 In any case, I've now gotten VMWare to run perfectly in a 1400x1050
 resolution with the application running just fine inside.  I have no
 problems with speed or response.
 
 I'd say this is the best of both worlds - a legacy OS like Windows
 running inside SUSE.
 
While this surely is impressive,

on a more general note, I doubt that it the best way
to run windows.

After all it requires much more in regard to hardware resources than a
native windows would need.

You still cannot do anything that windows can do within an emulator.

AND, it is quite costly to buy a windows license, and additional windows
software licenses  for any linux computer that is standing around, just
to get in the end, what you had before:

A computer that perfectly runs your main windows application(s). ;-))


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[opensuse] LG L192WS LCD screen modelines

2007-06-23 Thread Andre Truter

I have an openSUSE 10.2 box with an Intel i845 card and a LG L192WS LCD monitor.

Problem is that I cannot get it to work at 1400x900 resolution.
SaX does not recognize the monitor and set it to VESA 1280x1024 which
works, but the display is fuzzy and squashed.
I selected LCD [EMAIL PROTECTED] as the monitor, but then when I ran the
test, the monitor displayed a warning Out of range
I can use 1024x768 and lower resolutions with that setting, but again,
it is fuzzy and squashed.

I have googled but only found two references on the Ubuntu forums
where they have different modelines in the xorg.conf file and I tried
these, but it still gives the out of range error.

Any idea how I can get the correct modelines or setting for this monitor?

Thanks

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Re: [opensuse] Postfix and Procmail soft-bouce or autoreply

2007-06-23 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Saturday 2007-06-23 at 11:06 +0200, Sandy Drobic wrote:

  You don't need the relocation message to give the new address directly: 
  you define the exact message. Which I don't have clear is how big it can 
  be: I think it is a single line, perhaps long.
 
 No, if you use relocated the text is already hardcoded, you can't change it.
 It's another situation alltogether if you simply reject the mail and add
 the explanatory text as reject message. That line can be pretty long, long
 enough to inform the sender and give a link to a more detailed web page.

Are you sure? Postfix man pages are not the easiest to read, but man 
relocated seems to say different:

]The input format for the postmap(1) command is as follows:
]
]·  An entry has one of the following form:
]pattern  new_location
]   Where new_location specifies contact information such as an 
]   email address, or perhaps a street address or telephone 
]   number.
]
]· Empty lines and whitespace-only lines are ignored, as are lines
]  whose first non-whitespace character is a `#'.
]
]· A logical line starts with non-whitespace text. A line that 
]  starts with whitespace continues a logical line.


So I understand you can use:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]   The address you have used is no longer valid, 
 please phone me at (+34) 555 1234


Now, the message will probably contain more text, and that I guess will be 
hardcoded. However... I think I read somewhere that this messages could be 
translated, for instance, to Spanish. But I don't remember where I read 
this.

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Re: [opensuse] Postfix and Procmail soft-bouce or autoreply

2007-06-23 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Saturday 2007-06-23 at 11:30 +0200, Theo v. Werkhoven wrote:

  The subject can be modified using formail, I think, and it can be fired 
  from procmail.
 
 Or with Postfix's body_checks(5) REPLACE and PREPEND functions.

Ah? Interesting...

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Re: [opensuse] Postfix and Procmail soft-bouce or autoreply

2007-06-23 Thread Sandy Drobic
Carlos E. R. wrote:
 
 The Saturday 2007-06-23 at 11:06 +0200, Sandy Drobic wrote:
 
 You don't need the relocation message to give the new address directly: 
 you define the exact message. Which I don't have clear is how big it can 
 be: I think it is a single line, perhaps long.

 No, if you use relocated the text is already hardcoded, you can't change it.
 It's another situation alltogether if you simply reject the mail and add
 the explanatory text as reject message. That line can be pretty long, long
 enough to inform the sender and give a link to a more detailed web page.
 
 Are you sure? Postfix man pages are not the easiest to read, but man 
 relocated seems to say different:
 
 So I understand you can use:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]   The address you have used is no longer valid, 
  please phone me at (+34) 555 1234

Yes, that much is true, but...

 
 Now, the message will probably contain more text, and that I guess will be 
 hardcoded. However... I think I read somewhere that this messages could be 
 translated, for instance, to Spanish. But I don't remember where I read 
 this.

The entire reject text would read like this:

550 5.1.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Recipient address rejected: User has moved
to The address you have used is no longer valid, please phone me at (+34)
555 1234

The part with the has moved to is hardcoded which makes it a bit tricky
to use for anything else but another email address without sounding a bit
strange.

This message is not configurable. Starting with Postfix 2.3 you can
customize the bounce_template_file, but not this reject message.

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Re: [opensuse] Postfix and Procmail soft-bouce or autoreply

2007-06-23 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Saturday 2007-06-23 at 12:38 +0200, Sandy Drobic wrote:

...

 The entire reject text would read like this:
 
 550 5.1.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Recipient address rejected: User has moved
 to The address you have used is no longer valid, please phone me at (+34)
 555 1234

Ouch.


 The part with the has moved to is hardcoded which makes it a bit tricky
 to use for anything else but another email address without sounding a bit
 strange.

Yep...

Something like:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]   another adress; please phone me at (+34) 555 1234


Possible, but not flexible. And very tricky if you want to use several 
languages. Multilanguage support in bounces messages is not implemented, 
and this causes many problems for plain users.

   (for instance, a header in all mails specifiying language could be used 
   to generate bounces in the user's language)


 This message is not configurable. Starting with Postfix 2.3 you can
 customize the bounce_template_file, but not this reject message.

Pity.

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Re: [opensuse] LG L192WS LCD screen modelines

2007-06-23 Thread Masaru Nomiya
Hello,

In the Message; 

  Subject: [opensuse] LG L192WS LCD screen modelines
  Message-ID : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date  Time: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 11:38:44 +0200

[Andre] == Andre Truter [EMAIL PROTECTED] has written:

Andre I have an openSUSE 10.2 box with an Intel i845 card and a LG L192WS LCD 
monitor.

Andre Problem is that I cannot get it to work at 1400x900 resolution.
Andre SaX does not recognize the monitor and set it to VESA 1280x1024 which
Andre works, but the display is fuzzy and squashed.
Andre I selected LCD [EMAIL PROTECTED] as the monitor, but then when I ran the
Andre test, the monitor displayed a warning Out of range
Andre I can use 1024x768 and lower resolutions with that setting, but again,
Andre it is fuzzy and squashed.

Oh, I see.

Could you show me tha part Section Momnitor of your xorg.conf.

  /etc/X11/xorg.conf

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[opensuse] Firefox plugin mplayer problem

2007-06-23 Thread StephenW
This morning, while attempting to use YAHOO (with Firefox 2.0.0.3) its video
news feeds will not play.  They did last night.  It wanted me to install
x-ms-wmp.  After a couple of google attempts I found this.  Not sure what it
all means... Except it does not help me get things going again

winstephen

two distros - same problem, SuSE 10.2 and SimplyMepis 3.5
still working in WinXP


 PostPosted: Apr Sat 21st 2007 12:12pm 
This was posted on the Windows Media Player Firefox Plugin - Download page by
Rossman on Sat 21 April 2007 14:21
Quote:
re: Windows Media Player Firefox Plugin - Download

I have posted sample code on how to use the new plug-in in Firefox (as well as
good ole IE) at my website at:
http://www.therossman.org/experiments/wmp_play.html

Hope this helps someone out, I've also covered z-index Windows Media Player and
Flash which has been a huge problem until this new plugin was released,

Thanks for finally getting this out there, Microsoft!

Cheers,
Rossman

From his http://www.therossman.org/experiments/wmp_play.html web page:
Quote:
This is a quick HOWTO on the new Windows Media Player plugin for Firefox. It
will show you how to create the Windows Media Player object in both Firefox and
Internet Explorer, playing back video in the plugin, and also scripting the
plug-in and listening for events in both Firefox and Internet Explorer. To make
it a little more fun I've also built a flash user interface which will call the
javascript functions to control the Windows Media Player

Rossman uses the new MIME type, application/x-ms-wmp in his page code.
Searching Google on application/x-ms-wmp I came up with:
http://blogs.msdn.com/eric_anderson/archive/2007/04/16/windows-media-player-on-firefox.aspx
which says,
Quote:
If you use the plug-ins new MIME type though, you can take advantage of fuller
design time parameter support, based on 9.0 interfaces. We will have the MSDN
documentation updated to reflect the supported tags/elements in the near
future. In the meantime, if you want to start using the new plug-in, you can
force your sites to use it by using the new application/x-ms-wmp MIME type.

Just one more example of exclusive coding, since it would eliminate non-IE
browsers except for those able to use the new ffwmp plugin.
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[opensuse] RAID questions

2007-06-23 Thread James Knott
I've just installed SUSE 10.2, using RAID 5, on an IBM Netfinity x232
server.  I created one small partition for /boot, a RAID array over 4
disks for / and a 2nd RAID for swap.  I assume I could replicate the
/boot partition across all 4 drives and add them to GRUB.  If I want
LVM, do I create a RAID array first?  Or can I create both RAID and LVM
in LVM?  Also, in the on line docs I found the following:

Check the file /proc/mdstats to find out whether a RAID partition has
been destroyed. In the event of a system failure, shut down your Linux
system and replace the defective hard disk with a new one partitioned
the same way. Then restart your system and enter the command mdadm
/dev/mdX --add /dev/sdX. Replace 'X' with your particular device
identifiers. This integrates the hard disk automatically into the RAID
system and fully reconstructs it.

My system has hot swappable drives.  Does it still require a shut down
before replacing a drive?

tnx jk


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Re: [opensuse] LG L192WS LCD screen modelines

2007-06-23 Thread Andre Truter

On 23/06/07, Masaru Nomiya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello,

[...]

Oh, I see.

Could you show me tha part Section Momnitor of your xorg.conf.

  /etc/X11/xorg.conf



Section Monitor
 DisplaySize  340 270
 HorizSync30-83
 Identifier   Monitor[0]
 ModelName[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Option   DPMS
 VendorName   -- LCD
 VertRefresh  56-75
 UseModes Modes[0]
EndSection

It is the default of the [EMAIL PROTECTED] selection in SaX, but I
changed the Horizontal and Vertical refresh rates to the values
mentioned in the documentation that came with the monitor.

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Re: [opensuse] LG L192WS LCD screen modelines

2007-06-23 Thread Masaru Nomiya
Hello,

In the Message; 

  Subject: Re: [opensuse] LG L192WS LCD screen modelines
  Message-ID : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date  Time: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 14:09:35 +0200

[Andre] == Andre Truter [EMAIL PROTECTED] has written:

Andre Section Monitor
Andre  DisplaySize  340 270
Andre  HorizSync30-83
Andre  Identifier   Monitor[0]
Andre  ModelName[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Andre  Option   DPMS
Andre  VendorName   -- LCD
Andre  VertRefresh  56-75
Andre  UseModes Modes[0]
Andre EndSection

Andre It is the default of the [EMAIL PROTECTED] selection in SaX, but I
Andre changed the Horizontal and Vertical refresh rates to the values
Andre mentioned in the documentation that came with the monitor.

How did you change?

What you must chage is Horizsync only.

At this point,

Andre  HorizSync30-83

is too high.

Change this as follows;

   HorizSync30-57

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[opensuse] Mail Program

2007-06-23 Thread Mike Dwiggins

OK,

First, I am a newbee to SUSE.

I have tried everything I can think of to install Dovecot to a 10.2 
brand new installation.  Webmin keeps telling me that it is not installed.


Am I stupid, or are the three not compatible?

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Re: [opensuse] Stupid Updater and Stupid Installer - IMHO

2007-06-23 Thread Billie Erin Walsh
On 06/23/2007 Kenneth Aar, Grafikern.no wrote:
 Now hold on. I agree it is lacking in layout usability but it does
 work and, whats more it is the fastest gui installer I have ever
 used. You should try it. Time your self installing a small app like
 kibadock in yast and in smart (from you start yast or smart to you
 close it.). In smart I use less than 40 seconds. In yast I use 4min
 and 50 sec! And I have 3500 mhz processor  3 GB ram box so don't say
 it's my hardware either...

I hate the interface so much I don't EVEN want to waste my time trying
to find what I want.

I have a 3.2 GHz dual core with only 1Gig. I actually don't find Yast
install time to be an issue, unless I'm doing something like twenty or
thirty at a time [ then just flip over to another desktop and keep
playing ]. My connection is FAST so there's very little lag time during
the download.

No thanks. I'll stick with Yast. IMHO, Smart just ain't.

My ol' granpa used to say, If'n it ain't broke, don't fix it. Yast
ain't broke.


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[opensuse] Re: Gotta Love that VM Ware!

2007-06-23 Thread Joachim Schrod

Eberhard Roloff wrote:

Kai Ponte wrote:

Just an update on my Vista laptop that I wanted to switch over to
SUSE.  One of the things I needed it to do was run our main
application, written in .net but requiring many Windows-based
controls.

In any case, I've now gotten VMWare to run perfectly in a 1400x1050
resolution with the application running just fine inside.  I have no
problems with speed or response.

I'd say this is the best of both worlds - a legacy OS like Windows
running inside SUSE.


While this surely is impressive,

on a more general note, I doubt that it the best way
to run windows.


That depends what you want to do with Windows. If one uses it for 
games, you might be right, as hardware requirements for them are 
quite stringent. But if one uses it in a business environment to 
run Windows applications that are not available on Linux (e.g. 
Visio or accounting software) -- then it's the perfect choice. And 
VMware is much more stable and reliable than all other alternatives.



After all it requires much more in regard to hardware resources than a
native windows would need.


much more? No, definitively not. Performance is about 10% lower 
than native Windows, and that's not a problem on every processor 
above 2GHz. Even on my T21 with its 1.4GHz processor the 
performance is sufficient -- and doesn't really disturb the Linux 
part where a DBMS is running at the same time.


And what would be the alternative? Linux? Sorry, all necessary apps 
are not there yet. Native Windows? Nah, that would mean that we 
would need to get two laptops to customer presentations and would 
need to set up a network between them -- it's so much easier just 
to fire up the VMware instance. It would also mean that every desk 
would need two computers on it -- what a waste of space and energy.


And we didn't talk about snapshots yet, or about easy migration to 
other host computers for disaster recovery, or about standardized 
deployments because the (virtual) hardware is the same everywhere. 
These advantages are so relevant that some customers of us run 
*all* their systems in VMware, the Linux systems included.



You still cannot do anything that windows can do within an emulator.


Care to name some often occuring problems, beyond games that want 
to access the video hardware directly? I haven't seen such problems 
in thousands of VMware installations. (Granted, all of them in 
business settings, using ESX.)



AND, it is quite costly to buy a windows license, and additional windows
software licenses  for any linux computer that is standing around,


Sorry, but that argument doesn't cut it either in most cases: Large 
business have volume licenses anyhow. Home users get their Windows 
licenses when they buy a computer. Smaller business should be able 
to buy the licenses -- or they don't need the software. If the 
respective business area has not even enough revenues to buy the 
software that's needed to run it, it is not worth it and should be 
dropped; that's basic business planning. (At least that's my 
opinion as a CEO, who regularly does cost/revenue analysis in his 
own company.)


Joachim

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[opensuse] Re: simple LAN

2007-06-23 Thread Jonathan Arnold
G T Smith wrote:
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 Billie Erin Walsh wrote:
 Jonathan Arnold wrote:
 Theo v. Werkhoven wrote:
   
 Thu, 21 Jun 2007, by [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 
 Kenneth Schneider wrote:
   
 On Mon, 2007-06-18 at 11:00 +0100, Robert Best wrote:
 
 It is a Speedtouch ADSL modem. Don't know about firewall
 capabilities.
   
 The firewall capabilities used by most of these modems is called NAT
 which stands for Network Address Translation ( there are other features
 available ). What this basically does is prevent an outside connection
 
 NAT is not in itself a security technology. It does give a limited
 security by obscurity by hiding machines on a local lan from the outside
 world but not a lot other than that.
 
 What a firewall gives is what can be accessed, how it can be accessed
 and from where. With more sophisticated technologies (e.g. Novells
 Border manager) one can also define who can access what.
 
 snip
 
 Yes, exactly. I've never understood the Wild Eyed(tm) insistence on a
 firewall, as I imagine there very few installations where a user's 
 computer
 is directly on the Internet these days. I always  run behind a router,
 and thus don't need a firewall. If you have your cable modem plugged
 into a switch or router (ie, if your computer is on a 192.168 network),
 you don't need a firewall. And yet I can't get Windows to stop complaining
 about the fact I don't have the firewall turned on.
 
 The difficulty with this proposition is the assumption that all machines
 on the local lan are adequately secured and used by reliable and
 trustworthy people. Any security is only as strong as its weakest link,
 and in most cases it is not the technology on the network but the people
 using that technology which present the problem.

But I'm talking about a home network with 1-3 PCs hooked on to it, mostly
running games and the like. Barring something happening from inside, it
just isn't a worry.

Not to say as my kids get older, I won't have to look into a firewall to
avoid any bad accidents. But until then, my home network is pretty safe behind
my NAT router.

 Unfortunately, there is nothing to stop an unsecured machine or
 malicious (or stupid) user from attempting (deliberately or
 inadvertently) to establish a link with an external site that that could
 effectively bypass firewall or NAT based security assumptions. A
 firewall policy for both external access and internal lan access is a
 requirement on any network, and when combined with locking down external
 access to SMTP and websites to proxy servers and mail hubs should at
 least make such attacks more difficult
 
 As Windows is particularly vulnerable to this kind subversive attack
 this kind of nagging is probably a good thing.
 
   
 
 Yes, not to say there aren't always exceptions, but I'm still willing to
 bet firewalls, for many people, have caused more problems than they have
 solved.
 snip
 
 Usually, this is because people do not understand what they are doing
 and why they are doing it. The link below is worth exploring...
 
  http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/05/31/security_analogies/

Thanks for the link.

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[opensuse] Re: synchronizing 2 folders

2007-06-23 Thread Jonathan Arnold
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 The Friday 2007-06-22 at 12:53 +0700, Fajar Priyanto wrote:
 
 2. But if you want to provide a backup function too, so that if anything 
 happens in folder1, there is a backup available in folder2, you can use 
 rsync:
 rsync -a /home/hans/folder1 /home/hans/folder2
 
 And --del
 
 And put that command in crontab for to be running say.. 3 minutes.
 
 I wonder if there would be an easy way using 'famd' instead.

Gee thanks, Carlos. Further investigation into this has added yet another
gotta work on this mini-project to my list! Looks cool and a simple
folder synchronizer should be reasonably easy to do.

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Re: [opensuse] RAID questions

2007-06-23 Thread Sandy Drobic
Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:
 Carlos E. R. wrote:
 The Saturday 2007-06-23 at 07:58 -0400, James Knott wrote:

 I've just installed SUSE 10.2, using RAID 5, on an IBM Netfinity x232
 server.  I created one small partition for /boot, a RAID array over 4
 disks for / and a 2nd RAID for swap.  I assume I could replicate the
 /boot partition across all 4 drives and add them to GRUB.
 I think you should. Not only /boot, but also the MBR part of grub, so that
 you can boot from any of the four disks. I'm not sure exactly of the best
 manner to do this;
 IMHO, the best and easiest way is through the grub command line, i.e
 grub
 
 grub root (hd0,1)
 grub setup (hd0)
 grub root (hd1,1)
 grub setup (hd1)
 ...etc, then
 grub quit
 hd0,1 corresponds to first hd, second partition (assuming swap is the
 first partition, adjust as needed.  Then add corresponding entries in
 menu.lst, and add a fallback #, with #= the menu entry of the second
 disk, etc.  Do a search for RAID+GRUB for a step by step set of
 instructions.  HTH.

I asked my boss if it would be worth adding a few hundred Euros in cost to
get hot-plug and hardware raid where the only action neccessary for a disk
replacement would be to stand in front of the server and simply plug in
the replacement for the broken server. That way my stand-in would only
need to know that the disk is broken and how to push the button to pop out
the disk and then plug in the new disk.

He immediately saw the light and signed the order for the server with
hardware raid and hot-plug disks.

I have little experience with software raid, but these steps don't entice
me very much to start playing around with it. Compared to the costs of a
standing server and the risk of a mistyped command on the command line
when your blood pressure is already elevated due to the alert situation I
am not convinced it is worth the hassle.

It might be different for a server or workstation at home where cost is
the most important factor.

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Re: [opensuse] Stupid Updater and Stupid Installer - IMHO

2007-06-23 Thread Sandy Drobic
Dave Howorth wrote:

 I've just upgraded from 9.3 to 10.2 and I've noticed that software
 installation in YaST is *much* slower than it used to be. (I've removed
 zmd).
 
 I think this is largely because it is downloading the package lists
 every time I use it, whereas before I think they only changed when I did
 an update or refreshed the source. Is there some way to tell it *not* to
 download the lists every time, and just do it when I tell it to (or
 overnight or something)?

Yes, there is. Previously, you could see the button to aktivate/deactivate
a source at once. Now it is hidden a bit in the don-t-know-the-name button
in the corner down right, where you can deactivate AND/OR not-refresh a
source.

The always-refresh behaviour is pretty annoying when you only want to
install a little package. I guess, the reason for that is, that these
sources also work as update sources.

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Re: [opensuse] Stupid Updater and Stupid Installer - IMHO

2007-06-23 Thread Dave Howorth
On Sat, 2007-06-23 at 11:43 +0200, Kenneth Aar, Grafikern.no wrote:
 Billie Erin Walsh skrev:
  The official name is Smart but they definitely aren't smart.

 Time your self installing a small app like kibadock in 
 yast and in smart (from you start yast or smart to you close it.). In 
 smart I use less than 40 seconds. In yast I use 4min and 50 sec! And I 
 have 3500 mhz processor  3 GB ram box so don't say it's my hardware 
 either...

I've just upgraded from 9.3 to 10.2 and I've noticed that software
installation in YaST is *much* slower than it used to be. (I've removed
zmd).

I think this is largely because it is downloading the package lists
every time I use it, whereas before I think they only changed when I did
an update or refreshed the source. Is there some way to tell it *not* to
download the lists every time, and just do it when I tell it to (or
overnight or something)?

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Re: [opensuse] LG L192WS LCD screen modelines

2007-06-23 Thread Felix Miata
On 2007/06/23 14:09 (GMT+0200) Andre Truter apparently typed:

 Section Monitor
   DisplaySize  340 270

This is wrong. For a 19 16:10 display this should be approximately 409 by 256.

   HorizSync30-83
   Identifier   Monitor[0]
   ModelName[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Option   DPMS
   VendorName   -- LCD
   VertRefresh  56-75
   UseModes Modes[0]

If what others suggest doesn't work, try commenting out UseModes.

 EndSection

 It is the default of the [EMAIL PROTECTED] selection in SaX, but I
 changed the Horizontal and Vertical refresh rates to the values
 mentioned in the documentation that came with the monitor.

If nothing else has worked so far, try adding to xorg.conf in 'Section 
Device' for your graphics card the line 'Option NoDDC'.

It might help us help you to know the Modes line from 'Section Screen' for 
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Re: [opensuse] RAID questions

2007-06-23 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Saturday 2007-06-23 at 16:19 +0200, Sandy Drobic wrote:

...

 He immediately saw the light and signed the order for the server with
 hardware raid and hot-plug disks.

Lucky you :-p


 I have little experience with software raid, but these steps don't entice
 me very much to start playing around with it. Compared to the costs of a
 standing server and the risk of a mistyped command on the command line
 when your blood pressure is already elevated due to the alert situation I
 am not convinced it is worth the hassle.
 
 It might be different for a server or workstation at home where cost is
 the most important factor.

Exactly :-)


Then there are many different situations. I have been in businesses where 
the cent is not trivial. Sometimes I have had to choose between getting my 
salary or getting some hardware instead, or getting a cheaper hardware as 
a compromise.


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Re: [opensuse] Postfix and Procmail soft-bouce or autoreply

2007-06-23 Thread Sandy Drobic
Theo v. Werkhoven wrote:
 Sat, 23 Jun 2007, by [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 Theo v. Werkhoven wrote:
 Sat, 23 Jun 2007, by [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 The Friday 2007-06-22 at 16:10 -0700, Dale Schuster wrote:

 ...

 This is a source of confusion for me too.  I'm not exactly sure where to 
 look to accomplish Subject Rewrites.  I think that may be a suitable 
 compromise, but my requirements are specifically to add a tag in the 
 message.  Thank you for the ammunition I needed for arguing further.
 The subject can be modified using formail, I think, and it can be fired 
 from procmail.
 Or with Postfix's body_checks(5) REPLACE and PREPEND functions.
 The problem is that you can not restrict these checks to only certain
 mails. The are applied to all mails.
 
 True

It is possible to restrict header/body_checks to only certain mails, but
you have to jump through some hoops to get that. I don't think it is worth
the additional complexity, since there are tools better suited for the task.

You would either need to set up a second instance (not just another
listener) of Postfix or you have to deal with multiple cleanup processes,
with different header/body_checks and assign them to the listeners in
question. The last one is a bit tricky to keep track of, so I wouldn't
recommend it.

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Re: [opensuse] RAID questions

2007-06-23 Thread Joe Morris (NTM)
Carlos E. R. wrote:

 The Saturday 2007-06-23 at 07:58 -0400, James Knott wrote:

  I've just installed SUSE 10.2, using RAID 5, on an IBM Netfinity x232
  server.  I created one small partition for /boot, a RAID array over 4
  disks for / and a 2nd RAID for swap.  I assume I could replicate the
  /boot partition across all 4 drives and add them to GRUB.

 I think you should. Not only /boot, but also the MBR part of grub, so that
 you can boot from any of the four disks. I'm not sure exactly of the best
 manner to do this;
IMHO, the best and easiest way is through the grub command line, i.e
grub

grub root (hd0,1)
grub setup (hd0)
grub root (hd1,1)
grub setup (hd1)
...etc, then
grub quit
hd0,1 corresponds to first hd, second partition (assuming swap is the
first partition, adjust as needed.  Then add corresponding entries in
menu.lst, and add a fallback #, with #= the menu entry of the second
disk, etc.  Do a search for RAID+GRUB for a step by step set of
instructions.  HTH.


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Re: [opensuse] GPRS Easy Connect and perl-Gnome2

2007-06-23 Thread Dave Howorth
On Sat, 2007-06-23 at 11:09 +0200, Fazer wrote:
 Ok but I have a problem
 
 /GPRS_Easy_Connect_301 # perl -MCPAN -e 'install Gtk2-1.081'
 CPAN: Storable loaded ok
 Going to read /root/.cpan/Metadata
   Database was generated on Sat, 23 Jun 2007 04:08:51 GMT
 Warning: Cannot install -1.081, don't know what it is.

Looking on CPAN, 1.081 isn't there. The changelog says it was an
unstable release, so I guess they've removed it. So your situation is
complicated, sadly.

The indicated release is quite old and was unstable, so it's possible
that either (a) it was a real nightmare to build a working application
and the indicated version numbers are the only ones that are known to
work or (b) the site has got out of date.

So one possibility is to ask the authors for advice. I see there's a
forum for GPRS_Easy_Connect, so I'd suggest asking there.

Ordinarily I would suggest trying to build it anyway with the latest
releases and just see whether it works. But I happen to be working with
Gtk2 myself at present and I know first-hand that installing the module
can be a pain. So in this case I'd suggest trying the Suse package
perl-Gtk2 in YaST, which is a reasonably recent version though not
absolutely up-to-date. (I'm assuming you're on Suse 10.2 from the gtk+
version number you give below).

 /GPRS_Easy_Connect_301 #perl -MCPAN -e 'install Gtk2' 
 *
 *
 *
   CPAN.pm: Going to build T/TS/TSCH/Gtk2-1.144.tar.gz
 
 *** can not find package gtk+-2.0 = 2.0.0
 *** check that it is properly installed and available in PKG_CONFIG_PATH
  at Makefile.PL line 67
 Running make test
   Make had some problems, maybe interrupted? Won't test
 Running make install
   Make had some problems, maybe interrupted? Won't install

 but i have gtk2
 
 /GPRS_Easy_Connect_301 #rpm -q gtk2
 gtk2-2.10.6-13

Yeah, I said Gtk2 was a pain! I have to say that this isn't a problem
I've seen with it, though. The problems I've had are masses of
dependencies, some failing tests, and some methods in the modules that
don't seem to work as advertised. Hence my suggestion to use YaST for
this package.

There don't seem to be Suse packages for the two modules you originally
asked about though, so probably it has to be CPAN for those.

But I'd really recommend going on their forum and seeing what other
people have done and what the authors recommend. That's most likely to
be the easiest way to get a working version.

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Re: [opensuse] RAID questions

2007-06-23 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Saturday 2007-06-23 at 07:58 -0400, James Knott wrote:

 I've just installed SUSE 10.2, using RAID 5, on an IBM Netfinity x232
 server.  I created one small partition for /boot, a RAID array over 4
 disks for / and a 2nd RAID for swap.  I assume I could replicate the
 /boot partition across all 4 drives and add them to GRUB. 

I think you should. Not only /boot, but also the MBR part of grub, so that 
you can boot from any of the four disks. I'm not sure exactly of the best 
manner to do this; dd could do, but it is not just a single sector, I 
mean, not just the mbr. And overwriting the mbr overwrites the partition 
table.

(I assume you mean software raid, of course)

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[opensuse] Re: simple LAN

2007-06-23 Thread Jonathan Arnold
James Knott wrote:
 Jerry Houston wrote:
 James Knott wrote:
 I have never had Windows as my main OS on my home computer.  I've
 only got it on my ThinkPad, which I also installed SUSE on.  At home,
 I went from DOS to OS/2, over 15 years ago and then to Linux, about 5
 years ago.  Whenever I have to use Windows, I feel restricted because
 it's very limiting compared to Linux or OS/2.

 Incredible.  I'm a fan of Linux, too (else, why would I be here?), but
 if you think Windows is limiting compared with OS/2, you must be using
 a 15-year-old copy of Windows!

 Have you actually used OS/2?  Have you compare the WPS with any other
 desktop, including Linux?  Have you investigated the power of the object
 oriented system that's far beyond what Windows can do?  Then there's the
 excellent multitasking, that 15 years ago, was far better than what
 Windows can do today.  It's a long, long list, for those who actually
 learned to use the advantages of OS/2.

Yeah, I used to drive my boss crazy at a prior employers because I insisted
on using OS/2 instead of Windows. It was a pretty brilliant OS for its time,
and the Emacs port is still nearly unmatched in its versatility. I think it
could have gone a long way with more support.

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Re: [opensuse] Mail Program

2007-06-23 Thread Theo v. Werkhoven
Sat, 23 Jun 2007, by [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 OK,
 
 First, I am a newbee to SUSE.
 
 I have tried everything I can think of to install Dovecot to a 10.2 
 brand new installation.  Webmin keeps telling me that it is not installed.

Did you tell Webmin where the Dovecot's binary and config files are?
https://localhost:1/config.cgi?dovecot

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Re: [opensuse] Postfix and Procmail soft-bouce or autoreply

2007-06-23 Thread Theo v. Werkhoven
Sat, 23 Jun 2007, by [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Theo v. Werkhoven wrote:
  Sat, 23 Jun 2007, by [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  
  The Friday 2007-06-22 at 16:10 -0700, Dale Schuster wrote:
 
  ...
 
  This is a source of confusion for me too.  I'm not exactly sure where to 
  look to accomplish Subject Rewrites.  I think that may be a suitable 
  compromise, but my requirements are specifically to add a tag in the 
  message.  Thank you for the ammunition I needed for arguing further.
  The subject can be modified using formail, I think, and it can be fired 
  from procmail.
  
  Or with Postfix's body_checks(5) REPLACE and PREPEND functions.
 
 The problem is that you can not restrict these checks to only certain
 mails. The are applied to all mails.

True

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Re: [opensuse] Re: synchronizing 2 folders

2007-06-23 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Saturday 2007-06-23 at 10:21 -0400, Jonathan Arnold wrote:

  I wonder if there would be an easy way using 'famd' instead.
 
 Gee thanks, Carlos. Further investigation into this has added yet another
 gotta work on this mini-project to my list! Looks cool and a simple
 folder synchronizer should be reasonably easy to do.

I'd be interested in knowing the result ;-)

Kind of a cute daemon a la cron would be nice. You know, define a file 
with lines like:

d|f  path_to_dir_or_file_to_watch   program_or_script_to_execute

O:-)

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Re: [opensuse] Protected Kernel Replaced by 10.2 Update

2007-06-23 Thread Clayton

 OTOH, to me the Smart UI is best described as mystery meat.

My sentiments exactly.  I found it essentially unusable.


I'm another Smart hater.  The UI is one of the WORST designed package
manager UIs next to that travesty that Novell foisted on us with 10.1.
Give us back Synaptic... at least that UI was somewhat logical and
usable.

:-(
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Re: [opensuse] Mail Program

2007-06-23 Thread joe
Mike Dwiggins wrote:
 OK,
 
 First, I am a newbee to SUSE.
 
 I have tried everything I can think of to install Dovecot to a 10.2
 brand new installation.  Webmin keeps telling me that it is not installed.
 
 Am I stupid, or are the three not compatible?

Obviously the three are compatible since dovecot comes with suse, and I see
dovecot in the list of servers when I fire up webmin. That was automatic, no
extra steps necessary. I suspect something funny with your dovecot
install.

Are you using the fine dovecot package that comes with suse, or did you eschew
that in favor of some sort of do-it-yourself dovecot tarball install?

Joe


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[opensuse] Re: [opensuse-security] Can vmware network interfaces be controlled through susefirewall?

2007-06-23 Thread John Andersen
On Saturday 23 June 2007, Carlos E. R. wrote:
 (I'm new to vmware)

 vmware server created two interfaces, vmnet1 and vmnet8 - the task of each
 one I have not clear -. The thing is, the hosted system (virtual machine)
 does have network access (I told it to use Nat), but I don't really know
 how, and whether it is protected by the firewall.

 Of course, if there is a nice, easy to read, howto, just tell me :-)

If you use nat it is protected by the firewall, protected in the sense
that unless you go in and specifically configure a routing, no inbound 
connections will be forwarded to the virtual machine.

So its just like being behind a router.  You can establish outbound
connection in the virtual machine using just about any package
(web browser, telnet, ssh, email, etc).  Its just like having a machine
behind a little hardware router.  Until or unless you open any inbound
ports you are pretty well protected.

If you wanted to run a ssh SERVER in a virtual machine, using nat
you would have to go to /etc/vmware/vmnet8/nat and edit
nat.conf to include a line something like this:
  [incomingtcp]
  # SSH
  8889 = 192.168.90.128:22

This would accept inbound connections on port 8889 and
route them to the virtual machine on port 22.

You will then restart vmware, and as root in the host, you will see with 
netstat -anp that vmmet-natd is listening on port 8889 for you.

If you do not need inbound connections, you don't have to do any of this.


Warning: Anytime you update vmware, it has a habit of stomping
all over your nat.conf  so MAKE A BACKUP copy.



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Re: [opensuse] lost start menu in OpenSuse 10.2

2007-06-23 Thread Dave Howorth
On Sat, 2007-06-23 at 11:42 -0600, Michael Folsom wrote:
 Folks:
 
 For some reason when my 10.2 box comes up the start menu does not
 appear.  I have the bar across the bottom with a few icons on it but
 the start icon is gone.

Start menu?  I'm running 10.2  Gnome and I don't have a start menu :(
What's on it? I have a computer menu up the top with all the apps on it.

Cheers, Dave

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Re: [opensuse] Stupid Updater and Stupid Installer - IMHO

2007-06-23 Thread Dave Howorth
On Sat, 2007-06-23 at 17:35 +0200, Sandy Drobic wrote:
 Dave Howorth wrote:
  Is there some way to tell it *not* to
  download the lists every time, and just do it when I tell it to (or
  overnight or something)?
 
 Yes, there is. Previously, you could see the button to aktivate/deactivate
 a source at once. Now it is hidden a bit in the don-t-know-the-name button
 in the corner down right, where you can deactivate AND/OR not-refresh a
 source.

Ah, thanks Sandy. That's the Source Settings button on YaST's
Software/Installation Source page, for anybody else following. That
speeds it up considerably, though I think it's still slower than 9.3.
Definitely an improvement.

It leaves a lesser problem in its wake :( Now when I click on Online
Update it says it will Refresh update sources but it doesn't. Apart
from going into the Installation Source page and selecting Refresh now
for each individual source in turn, is there some way to tell it to
refresh all sources?

 The always-refresh behaviour is pretty annoying when you only want to
 install a little package. I guess, the reason for that is, that these
 sources also work as update sources.

Yes, but the use cases seem pretty obvious to me:
(1) I want to install a new package. I want to do it quickly, because I
want to use it!
(2) I want to do a regular and/or sporadic update to bring things pretty
much up-to-date, as good housekeeping.
(3) I've just heard about some specific threat and want exactly that
very recent release.

In case (3), I'm more than willing to push a button saying guarantee me
the latest possible update, and I'm more than happy to wait while it
does a download. In all other cases, I'm happy with an expectation that
the sources have been updated sometime in the last 24 hours, or even a
week, and I definitely don't want to wait.

I don't understand why there isn't a system cron job that keeps the
lists up-to-date overnight. I guess there's some command-line
incantation that I could set up as a cron job.

Cheers, Dave

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Re: [opensuse] lost start menu in OpenSuse 10.2

2007-06-23 Thread Kenneth Schneider
On Sat, 2007-06-23 at 11:42 -0600, Michael Folsom wrote:
 Folks:
 
 For some reason when my 10.2 box comes up the start menu does not
 appear.  I have the bar across the bottom with a few icons on it but
 the start icon is gone.
 
 This happened after an app hanged and I did a cntrlaltbackspace
 to restart X
 
 My guess is that their something is screwed up in gnome - any guess
 where to start?
 

Sorry, couldn't resist.

Switch to KDE? :-

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[opensuse] instalation CD/DVD preposition

2007-06-23 Thread Fazer
I sometimes help my friends with linux problems and I have suggestion to add 
one item to install CD grub menu

Repair installed system forwarding exacly to repair tools avilable after 
chosing install  other  repair installed system

what you about it
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Re: [opensuse] Protected Kernel Replaced by 10.2 Update

2007-06-23 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
Having used 'smart --gui' from the day it became available on SuSE, 
I find it sometimes cumbersome - but definitely usable.


 I hover over several toolbar icons, and get no tooltips to tell
 me what they're for.

Tooltips are shown only if the icon is active -- that is, they are 
shown if clicking on the icon would cause smart to perform the 
indicated action.  Presumably this is to not mislead the user into 
believing that tool to be currently available to him (this is how 
smart indicates that all the pre-conditions for use of that specific 
tool have not yet been provided).



 I open it up and it says on the statusbar No interesting 
upgrades   available!


That's interesting - for me when I first open it up the statusbar 
is blank.  Are you sure that you didn't happen to click on the 
next-to-rightmost icon ('Upgrade all packages') in the toolbar?  The 
message you quote is put into the statusbar when smart's 'Upgrade 
all packages' action decides it currently knows of no packages 
meeting its upgrade this criteria.


[Unfortunately, a human-factors failing of 'smart --gui' is that 
when another action is performed (e.g., another toolbar icon is 
clicked on), the previous content of the statusbar is not blanked. 
So the No interesting upgrades available message may stay there, 
beyond the time when it was meaningful.]



 ... while providing no apparent way to find out what
 non-interesting upgrades might be available

This is something that smart *can* provide.  [I have not figured out 
how to get synaptic to give me equivalent information.]


Go to the menu bar, click on 'View', mark 'Hide old'; go to the menu 
bar, click on 'View', click on 'Expand All'.  This will show all the 
packages found by the most recent 'Update' which have been added to 
the active repositories since the previous 'Update' was run.  This 
list includes new packages which would not meet smart's upgrade 
this criteria.



 It has an icon for updating all packages, but none for updating 
installed packages.


The leftmost toolbar icon ('Update channels') causes the indexes of 
the active repositories to be read.  This updates the information 
smart has about all packages available at these depositories.


The next-to-rightmost toolbar icon ('Upgrade all packages') will 
function (if confirmed) to mark (i.e., select for upgrade), from 
among the packages whose info was previously fetched by 'Update', 
those packages which meet smart's upgrade this criteria. 
[Optionally, the 'Apply' can be performed directly from 'Upgrade'.]


The next-to-leftmost toolbar icon (Apply marked changes') will 
perform (if confirmed) the actual upgrade (or whatever action had 
been marked) of all packages currently marked.




It has no menu item for configuration or preferences.


True.  Some things [for instance, which channels (i.e., 
repositories) will be looked at when 'Update' is run) are settable 
from the Edit menu.


Information about advanced configuration parameters can be found at

  http://wiki.suselinuxsupport.de/wikka.php?wakka=smartconfig


mikus



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[opensuse] lost start menu in OpenSuse 10.2

2007-06-23 Thread Michael Folsom

Folks:

For some reason when my 10.2 box comes up the start menu does not
appear.  I have the bar across the bottom with a few icons on it but
the start icon is gone.

This happened after an app hanged and I did a cntrlaltbackspace
to restart X

My guess is that their something is screwed up in gnome - any guess
where to start?


Thanks -


Michael
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[opensuse] All passwords invalid on konqueror

2007-06-23 Thread Ciro Iriarte

I, just updated last night my system running Opensuse 10.2 (x86_64),
i'm not sure when really this started, but now i can't access a WinXP
share or connect through sftp to my Suse 10.1 workstation with
konqueror, in both cases it says the password is wrong, although i can
login to the XP machine locally or the Suse workstation through ssh.

I didn't open a bugzilla ticket because i would like to confirm if
it's really a bug (something else have seen it).

Ciro
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Re: [opensuse] RAID questions

2007-06-23 Thread James Knott
Sandy Drobic wrote:
 I asked my boss if it would be worth adding a few hundred Euros in cost to
 get hot-plug and hardware raid where the only action neccessary for a disk
 replacement would be to stand in front of the server and simply plug in
 the replacement for the broken server. That way my stand-in would only
 need to know that the disk is broken and how to push the button to pop out
 the disk and then plug in the new disk.

 He immediately saw the light and signed the order for the server with
 hardware raid and hot-plug disks.

 I have little experience with software raid, but these steps don't entice
 me very much to start playing around with it. Compared to the costs of a
 standing server and the risk of a mistyped command on the command line
 when your blood pressure is already elevated due to the alert situation I
 am not convinced it is worth the hassle.

 It might be different for a server or workstation at home where cost is
 the most important factor.

   
I bought this server refurbished for only $150 (CDN).  It also makes a
great space heater!  ;-)


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[opensuse] Re: All passwords invalid on konqueror

2007-06-23 Thread Ciro Iriarte

2007/6/23, Ciro Iriarte [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

I, just updated last night my system running Opensuse 10.2 (x86_64),
i'm not sure when really this started, but now i can't access a WinXP
share or connect through sftp to my Suse 10.1 workstation with
konqueror, in both cases it says the password is wrong, although i can
login to the XP machine locally or the Suse workstation through ssh.

I didn't open a bugzilla ticket because i would like to confirm if
it's really a bug (something else have seen it).

Ciro



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Re: [opensuse] RAID questions

2007-06-23 Thread James Knott
Carlos E. R. wrote:

 The Saturday 2007-06-23 at 07:58 -0400, James Knott wrote:

  I've just installed SUSE 10.2, using RAID 5, on an IBM Netfinity x232
  server.  I created one small partition for /boot, a RAID array over 4
  disks for / and a 2nd RAID for swap.  I assume I could replicate the
  /boot partition across all 4 drives and add them to GRUB.

 I think you should. Not only /boot, but also the MBR part of grub, so
 that
 you can boot from any of the four disks. I'm not sure exactly of the best
 manner to do this; dd could do, but it is not just a single sector, I
 mean, not just the mbr. And overwriting the mbr overwrites the partition
 table.

 (I assume you mean software raid, of course)

Yes.  It doesn't appear the SCSI controllers have hardware raid.  This
is on a cheap server I picked up recently, so I'm just experimenting
with different things as a learning experience.

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Re: [opensuse] GoogleEarth

2007-06-23 Thread Daniel Feiglin


Daniel Feiglin wrote:

Situation Summary:

Kernel: 2.6.18.8-0.3-default (latest patch)

KDE: 3.5.5 release 45.4

Video card: nVidia, GeForce MX 4000

Driver - from openSUSE (yast installed) fully patched, 1.0-9631

GoogleEarth version: 4.0.2735.0
Same problem with latest, 4.1.7076.4458

When running from a command line, it comes up, shows the logo graphic
and then  a SIGSEGV -

Google Earth has caught signal 11. 

Another crash happened while handling crash!


For what it's worth, i ran the unistall, got rid of ~/.googleearth and
re-installed. The problem persists.

If I do the export LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.4.10 hack, and then run from the
command line I get this:

/bin/sh: error while loading shared libraries: libdl.so.2: cannot open
shared object file: No such file or directory

For the record, this item does exist, in /lib as libdl-2.5.so with
libdl.so.2 symlinks from /lib and /usr/lib.

Can't think of anything else.
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Re: [opensuse] lost start menu in OpenSuse 10.2

2007-06-23 Thread jfweber
On Sat June 23 2007, Dave Howorth scratched these words onto a coconut 
shell, hoping for an answer:
 On Sat, 2007-06-23 at 11:42 -0600, Michael Folsom wrote:
  Folks:
 
  For some reason when my 10.2 box comes up the start menu does not
  appear.  I have the bar across the bottom with a few icons on it
  but the start icon is gone.

 Start menu?  I'm running 10.2  Gnome and I don't have a start menu
 :( What's on it? I have a computer menu up the top with all the apps
 on it.
 Sounds like he has a hybrid page. Bits of each manager cobbled 
together.. 



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Re: [opensuse] Gotta Love that VM Ware!

2007-06-23 Thread Daniel Feiglin


Kai Ponte wrote:
 Just an update on my Vista laptop that I wanted to switch over to
 SUSE.  One of the things I needed it to do was run our main
 application, written in .net but requiring many Windows-based
 controls.

 In any case, I've now gotten VMWare to run perfectly in a 1400x1050
 resolution with the application running just fine inside.  I have no
 problems with speed or response.

 I'd say this is the best of both worlds - a legacy OS like Windows
 running inside SUSE.

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[opensuse] Email address change

2007-06-23 Thread eddie
How do I change my email address, my isp is changing?

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Re: [opensuse] Re: [opensuse-security] Can vmware network interfaces be controlled through susefirewall?

2007-06-23 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Saturday 2007-06-23 at 10:52 -0800, John Andersen wrote:

 On Saturday 23 June 2007, Carlos E. R. wrote:
  (I'm new to vmware)
 
  vmware server created two interfaces, vmnet1 and vmnet8 - the task of each
  one I have not clear -. The thing is, the hosted system (virtual machine)
  does have network access (I told it to use Nat), but I don't really know
  how, and whether it is protected by the firewall.
 
  Of course, if there is a nice, easy to read, howto, just tell me :-)
 
 If you use nat it is protected by the firewall, protected in the sense
 that unless you go in and specifically configure a routing, no inbound 
 connections will be forwarded to the virtual machine.

Ah, right. I was a bit fuzzy about it. 

 So its just like being behind a router.  You can establish outbound
 connection in the virtual machine using just about any package
 (web browser, telnet, ssh, email, etc).  Its just like having a machine
 behind a little hardware router.  Until or unless you open any inbound
 ports you are pretty well protected.

Good. :-)

So the windows virtual machine can be considered safe. You see, one of 
the reasons to try vmware is to avoid needing to boot windows just to use 
a single app. Knowing that it can be kept fairly safe is an added bonus.


 If you wanted to run a ssh SERVER in a virtual machine, using nat
 you would have to go to /etc/vmware/vmnet8/nat and edit
 nat.conf to include a line something like this:
   [incomingtcp]
   # SSH
   8889 = 192.168.90.128:22
 
 This would accept inbound connections on port 8889 and
 route them to the virtual machine on port 22.

Ah, good to know, but I don't intend doing such things. Not for now, at 
least, but knowledge is always a good thing.


 You will then restart vmware, and as root in the host, you will see with 
 netstat -anp that vmmet-natd is listening on port 8889 for you.
 
 If you do not need inbound connections, you don't have to do any of this.

Right.

 Warning: Anytime you update vmware, it has a habit of stomping
 all over your nat.conf  so MAKE A BACKUP copy.

Ha! Good to know. Yes, I backup the whole /etc, so that part is saved 
already.

What about the existing virtual machines, will I have to remake them? I'd 
better save an image, just in case. 

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Re: [opensuse] RAID questions

2007-06-23 Thread James Knott
Carlos E. R. wrote:

 Then there are many different situations. I have been in businesses where
 the cent is not trivial. Sometimes I have had to choose between
 getting my
 salary or getting some hardware instead
So, what hardware did you get?  ;-)

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Re: [opensuse] All passwords invalid on konqueror

2007-06-23 Thread James Knott
Ciro Iriarte wrote:
 I, just updated last night my system running Opensuse 10.2 (x86_64),
 i'm not sure when really this started, but now i can't access a WinXP
 share or connect through sftp to my Suse 10.1 workstation with
 konqueror, in both cases it says the password is wrong, although i can
 login to the XP machine locally or the Suse workstation through ssh.

 I didn't open a bugzilla ticket because i would like to confirm if
 it's really a bug (something else have seen it).


Did you run smbpasswd?


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Re: [opensuse] All passwords invalid on konqueror

2007-06-23 Thread Ciro Iriarte

2007/6/23, James Knott [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Ciro Iriarte wrote:
 I, just updated last night my system running Opensuse 10.2 (x86_64),
 i'm not sure when really this started, but now i can't access a WinXP
 share or connect through sftp to my Suse 10.1 workstation with
 konqueror, in both cases it says the password is wrong, although i can
 login to the XP machine locally or the Suse workstation through ssh.

 I didn't open a bugzilla ticket because i would like to confirm if
 it's really a bug (something else have seen it).


Did you run smbpasswd?


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No, i didn't. On the XP share case, the PC is on a AD domain, all
password changes are done on the workstation. I only use konqueror to
copy ocationally files from my XP workstation to my Opensuse 10.2
laptop. It's been working since day 1 of my laptop. Last night i
thought it was some weird situation with the domain, maybe a patch to
the DC. But this morning tried the same procedure (but this time at
home, to copy files from my pc to my laptop) and konqueror didn't
accept my ssh password  either.

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Re: [opensuse] RAID questions

2007-06-23 Thread Sandy Drobic
Carlos E. R. wrote:
 
 The Saturday 2007-06-23 at 16:19 +0200, Sandy Drobic wrote:
 
 ...
 
 He immediately saw the light and signed the order for the server with
 hardware raid and hot-plug disks.
 
 Lucky you :-p

Actually, I do consider myself lucky. (^-^)

 It might be different for a server or workstation at home where cost is
 the most important factor.
 
 Then there are many different situations. I have been in businesses where 
 the cent is not trivial. Sometimes I have had to choose between getting my 
 salary or getting some hardware instead, or getting a cheaper hardware as 
 a compromise.

Often, when your boss or your client can't afford to pay for the most
reasonable solution for such a lowlevel expense, this is an important sign
to look for business or a job somewhere else.

My previous company went south financially, but I learned to do the very
best with the resources I had available. Then I had to unlearn all of that
when I joined my current company. They don't mind to spend some money as
long as they get their worth out of the expense. It really took a long
time for me to change my mindset.

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Re: [opensuse] lost start menu in OpenSuse 10.2

2007-06-23 Thread Michael Folsom

No, its just the default gnome setup -

Frankly you may call it the application menu, main menu, start or
whatever - its the thing that all the apps like firefox, open office,
k3b,  etc are found under - you know you click on it and it opens up
then you click on Firefox -

Its gone and its very annoying -


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  Folks:
 
  For some reason when my 10.2 box comes up the start menu does not
  appear.  I have the bar across the bottom with a few icons on it
  but the start icon is gone.

 Start menu?  I'm running 10.2  Gnome and I don't have a start menu
 :( What's on it? I have a computer menu up the top with all the apps
 on it.
 Sounds like he has a hybrid page. Bits of each manager cobbled
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Re: [opensuse] RAID questions

2007-06-23 Thread Sandy Drobic
James Knott wrote:
 Sandy Drobic wrote:

 I have little experience with software raid, but these steps don't entice
 me very much to start playing around with it. Compared to the costs of a
 standing server and the risk of a mistyped command on the command line
 when your blood pressure is already elevated due to the alert situation I
 am not convinced it is worth the hassle.

 It might be different for a server or workstation at home where cost is
 the most important factor.
   
 I bought this server refurbished for only $150 (CDN).  It also makes a
 great space heater!  ;-)

I also bought my current main server here at home used at Ebay. It's an
old FSC Primergy 470. I just added some bigger SCSI-disks and a second
CPU. It is still running here after years of service despite the high
temperatures in summer.

But no software raid either, only true hardware raid and hot-plug. (^-^)
Better used and a bit older but professional hardware than fast but
fragile hardware.

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Re: [opensuse] RAID questions

2007-06-23 Thread James Knott
Sandy Drobic wrote:
 James Knott wrote:
   
 Sandy Drobic wrote:
 

   
 I have little experience with software raid, but these steps don't entice
 me very much to start playing around with it. Compared to the costs of a
 standing server and the risk of a mistyped command on the command line
 when your blood pressure is already elevated due to the alert situation I
 am not convinced it is worth the hassle.

 It might be different for a server or workstation at home where cost is
 the most important factor.
   
   
 I bought this server refurbished for only $150 (CDN).  It also makes a
 great space heater!  ;-)
 

 I also bought my current main server here at home used at Ebay. It's an
 old FSC Primergy 470. I just added some bigger SCSI-disks and a second
 CPU. It is still running here after years of service despite the high
 temperatures in summer.

 But no software raid either, only true hardware raid and hot-plug. (^-^)
 Better used and a bit older but professional hardware than fast but
 fragile hardware.

   
I didn't know IBM Netfinity servers were fragile.

Mine's built like a tank and weighs almost as much as one.  I bought it
from a store that has a lot of electronic clearance items, not just
computers.  The server is still listed in this week's flyer, so if
anyone in the Toronto area wants one, they should stop by Factory Direct.


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Re: [opensuse] Email address change

2007-06-23 Thread Kevin Donnelly
On Sat 23 June 2007 16:50:39 eddie wrote:
 How do I change my email address, my isp is changing?

Your ISP will give you a new email address - just enter it into your email app 
(eg in KMail, Settings - Configure KMail - Identities).

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Re: [opensuse] Email address change

2007-06-23 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Saturday 23 June 2007 14:14, Kevin Donnelly wrote:
 On Sat 23 June 2007 16:50:39 eddie wrote:
  How do I change my email address, my isp is changing?

 Your ISP will give you a new email address - just enter it into your
 email app (eg in KMail, Settings - Configure KMail - Identities).

I think he wants to know how to change his SuSE mailing list 
subscription address...

Right?


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Re: [opensuse] Email address change

2007-06-23 Thread BandiPat
On Saturday 23 June 2007, Kevin Donnelly wrote:
 On Sat 23 June 2007 16:50:39 eddie wrote:
  How do I change my email address, my isp is changing?

 Your ISP will give you a new email address - just enter it into your
 email app (eg in KMail, Settings - Configure KMail - Identities).

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I think he meant as far as being on this list?  I believe you'll have to 
unsubscribe from the list then rejoin with the new email address later, 
if that is what you are asking.

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Re: [opensuse] RAID questions

2007-06-23 Thread Sandy Drobic
James Knott wrote:
 Sandy Drobic wrote:
 James Knott wrote:
 I bought this server refurbished for only $150 (CDN).  It also makes a
 great space heater!  ;-)
 
 I also bought my current main server here at home used at Ebay. It's an
 old FSC Primergy 470. I just added some bigger SCSI-disks and a second
 CPU. It is still running here after years of service despite the high
 temperatures in summer.

 But no software raid either, only true hardware raid and hot-plug. (^-^)
 Better used and a bit older but professional hardware than fast but
 fragile hardware.
   
 I didn't know IBM Netfinity servers were fragile.

The fragile wasn't aimed at your server, it was meant for the home
servers where at best software raid is used or even no raid at all.

 Mine's built like a tank and weighs almost as much as one.  I bought it
 from a store that has a lot of electronic clearance items, not just
 computers.  The server is still listed in this week's flyer, so if
 anyone in the Toronto area wants one, they should stop by Factory Direct.

Sigh, some weeks ago I saw a used sun E450 at Ebay and actually considered
buying the monster. Then I tried to imagine where I could put it up to run
and gave up. There's simply no space for such a machine in my small
appartment. What a pity, though my electricity bill is definitely glad I
reconsidered my fancy. (^-^)
That thing alone is filling half of a full-sized rack.

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Re: [opensuse] Email address change

2007-06-23 Thread James Knott
Kevin Donnelly wrote:
 On Sat 23 June 2007 16:50:39 eddie wrote:
   
 How do I change my email address, my isp is changing?
 

 Your ISP will give you a new email address - just enter it into your email 
 app 
 (eg in KMail, Settings - Configure KMail - Identities).

   
I believe he was referring to his list membership.


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Re: [opensuse] RAID questions

2007-06-23 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Saturday 2007-06-23 at 16:32 -0400, James Knott wrote:

  Then there are many different situations. I have been in businesses 
  where the cent is not trivial. Sometimes I have had to choose between 
  getting my salary or getting some hardware instead
 So, what hardware did you get?  ;-)

We opted for cheaper hardware, and we postponed our salaries for months in 
order to survive. 

Instead of buying nice 19 rack industrial rated PCs, we used a 19 tray 
with an office computer on it instead. Instead of using 19 rack monitors, 
we used 14 office monitor screwed somehow into an aluminum sheet, which 
we then screwed into the 19 rack. And so on.

Cheap solutions.


At the end I found another job and jumped boat. Finding jobs is not always 
easy or even possible. If you have a job that pays your needs, count your 
blessings.


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Re: [opensuse] RAID questions

2007-06-23 Thread John O'Gorman
On Sat, 2007-06-23 at 22:54 +0200, Sandy Drobic wrote:
 Carlos E. R. wrote:
  
  The Saturday 2007-06-23 at 16:19 +0200, Sandy Drobic wrote:
  
  ...
  
  He immediately saw the light and signed the order for the server with
  hardware raid and hot-plug disks.
  
  Lucky you :-p
 
 Actually, I do consider myself lucky. (^-^)
 
  It might be different for a server or workstation at home where cost is
  the most important factor.
  
  Then there are many different situations. I have been in businesses where 
  the cent is not trivial. Sometimes I have had to choose between getting my 
  salary or getting some hardware instead, or getting a cheaper hardware as 
  a compromise.
 
 Often, when your boss or your client can't afford to pay for the most
 reasonable solution for such a lowlevel expense, this is an important sign
 to look for business or a job somewhere else.
 
 My previous company went south financially, but I learned to do the very
 best with the resources I had available. Then I had to unlearn all of that
 when I joined my current company. They don't mind to spend some money as
 long as they get their worth out of the expense. It really took a long
 time for me to change my mindset.

If the business (like for example insurance) acquires lots of data
continually then the cost of downtime due to a disc failure is huge
compared with the extra dollars for RAID with Hotswap.

With hardware RAID5, if the yellow light comes on a HDD, you simply
remove the bad disk, plug in the replacement, and watch for the new
disc's lights to settle while it syncs up. Eventually the light goes out
and flashes green only when the system flushes its buffers. During all
this time the users keep working productively -- it's simply wonderful!

No question in my mind that it is a Good Thing.

John O'Gorman
 
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Re: [opensuse] GoogleEarth

2007-06-23 Thread Rajko M.
On Saturday 23 June 2007 15:15, Daniel Feiglin wrote:
 Daniel Feiglin wrote:

 Situation Summary:

 Kernel: 2.6.18.8-0.3-default (latest patch)

 KDE: 3.5.5 release 45.4

 Video card: nVidia, GeForce MX 4000

 Driver - from openSUSE (yast installed) fully patched, 1.0-9631

 GoogleEarth version: 4.0.2735.0
 Same problem with latest, 4.1.7076.4458

 When running from a command line, it comes up, shows the logo graphic
 and then  a SIGSEGV -

 Google Earth has caught signal 11.

 Another crash happened while handling crash!


 For what it's worth, i ran the unistall, got rid of ~/.googleearth and
 re-installed. The problem persists.

 If I do the export LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.4.10 hack, and then run from the
 command line I get this:

You have kernel 2.6 and 2.4 kernel hack seems out of place. Though, I didn't 
looked for information what it means.

 /bin/sh: error while loading shared libraries: libdl.so.2: cannot open
 shared object file: No such file or directory

 For the record, this item does exist, in /lib as libdl-2.5.so with
 libdl.so.2 symlinks from /lib and /usr/lib.

 Can't think of anything else.

Google Earth crashes are usually sign of graphic driver problems, and last 
time I got crashes that was the case.  I had GeForce4 MX 4000 AGP card in 
computer when it happened. 

After downloading latest driver and compiling on my own problem disappeared.

http://en.opensuse.org/NVIDIA

The latest driver is:
 ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9639/

Here in README you can find complete list of supported chipsets, look in 
section for legacy 1.0-96xx driver series:
 ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9639/README/appendix-a.html
 
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Re: [opensuse] RAID questions

2007-06-23 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Saturday 2007-06-23 at 22:54 +0200, Sandy Drobic wrote:

 Often, when your boss or your client can't afford to pay for the most
 reasonable solution for such a lowlevel expense, this is an important sign
 to look for business or a job somewhere else.

Absolutely. If possible, of course.

 My previous company went south financially, but I learned to do the very
 best with the resources I had available. Then I had to unlearn all of that
 when I joined my current company. They don't mind to spend some money as
 long as they get their worth out of the expense. It really took a long
 time for me to change my mindset.


One of my jobs some time ago was with a nice and big company, with a five 
digit employee list and a long history, for which expense was no problem. 
I did have to change my mindset. Instead of going to the shop and buying 
things, I had to go trough the bureaucracy, which told me that their 
suppliers said that there is no such thing as SuSE 7.2 in our list. 
Good grief.

They too went bankrupt.

No, the ignorance of their bureaucracy about Linux didn't have to do with 
it: after all, it was them who had showed me how important Linux was, and 
it could be used for serious and important things.

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Re: [opensuse] Gotta Love that VM Ware!

2007-06-23 Thread S Glasoe
On Friday June 22 2007 12:50:05 pm Kai Ponte wrote:
 On Fri, June 22, 2007 10:30 am, Randall R Schulz wrote:
  On Friday 22 June 2007 10:22, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
  On 6/22/07, Kai Ponte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Just an update on my Vista laptop that I wanted to switch over to
   SUSE.  One of the things I needed it to do was run our main
   application, written in .net but requiring many Windows-based
   controls.
  
   In any case, I've now gotten VMWare to run perfectly in a
 
  1400x1050
 
   resolution with the application running just fine inside.  I have
   no problems with speed or response.
  
   I'd say this is the best of both worlds - a legacy OS like Windows
   running inside SUSE.
 
  Alternatively, you could try VirtualBox.
 
  He's happy with what he's got. Why mess with it? VMware is very good,
  very sound, very mature, very well supported. I doubt that can yet be
  said of VirtualBox.

 Agreed. I spent hours setting up my virtual machine the way I want it.
 I don't plan to scrap it and start over.

 However, it is nice to see that there are free competitors. I plan to
 buy a new home PC this year for my wife. I'll install SUSE, of course.
 I  plan for her to have a virtual machine. Maybe I'll use VirtualBox
 for it to run XP/2K apps.

Do like I did and install both on the same hardware. VirtualBox seems to be a 
lighter weight option in that it runs very well on 1GHz processors and 
512MB RAM. VirtualBox doesn't have all the bells and whistles of VMware 
especially in the network setup. It does seem to me on my hardware to be 
quicker though; faster to load, faster to shutdown, faster running. Same 
application load, same updates, same virtual disk size, same memory size 
usage, etc. I have a free copy of VMware 5.5 so the cost isn't an issue.

I am not doing any stress testing other than browser testing of websites, tech 
support of customers Windows problems, etc.

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Re: [opensuse] RAID questions

2007-06-23 Thread Sandy Drobic
John O'Gorman wrote:

 If the business (like for example insurance) acquires lots of data
 continually then the cost of downtime due to a disc failure is huge
 compared with the extra dollars for RAID with Hotswap.

True. In most cases though the consequences of downtime might not be so
apparent. That is the trouble. Once you start counting everything from
delayed work of the users to the time of the admin better spend on
productive work instead of repairing a miserable machine and many more
things like your reputation if clients have to call for you notice that a
machine broke down again, costs for downtime become prohibitive even for
small companies.

 With hardware RAID5, if the yellow light comes on a HDD, you simply
 remove the bad disk, plug in the replacement, and watch for the new
 disc's lights to settle while it syncs up. Eventually the light goes out
 and flashes green only when the system flushes its buffers. During all
 this time the users keep working productively -- it's simply wonderful!
 
 No question in my mind that it is a Good Thing.

True again. All my systems are set up to complain if something is
seriously wrong. In earlier times I could simply log in to the servers
every day to check the logs and have a look at the machine. Now I prefer
to have all servers report via email if some trouble occurs, either
ServerView for the FSC machines or some scripts for the remaining noname
machines.
Too many servers and services to do it manually anymore.



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Re: [opensuse] raid question

2007-06-23 Thread Jonathan Arsenault
On Fri, 2007-06-22 at 18:24 +0700, Fajar Priyanto wrote:
 First cylinder: (just enter)
 Last cylinder: +1000M (1GB)

I want my 24M back!

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Re: [opensuse] RAID questions

2007-06-23 Thread Sandy Drobic
Carlos E. R. wrote:
 
 The Saturday 2007-06-23 at 16:32 -0400, James Knott wrote:
 
 Then there are many different situations. I have been in businesses 
 where the cent is not trivial. Sometimes I have had to choose between 
 getting my salary or getting some hardware instead
 So, what hardware did you get?  ;-)
 
 We opted for cheaper hardware, and we postponed our salaries for months in 
 order to survive. 
 
 Instead of buying nice 19 rack industrial rated PCs, we used a 19 tray 
 with an office computer on it instead. Instead of using 19 rack monitors, 
 we used 14 office monitor screwed somehow into an aluminum sheet, which 
 we then screwed into the 19 rack. And so on.

That is what you do when you must have something and can't afford it. A
miserable situation that I encountered as well. :-/

 At the end I found another job and jumped boat. Finding jobs is not always 
 easy or even possible. If you have a job that pays your needs, count your 
 blessings.

If you find yourself in such a situation it is the most important
conclusion you have to face, that you must find another job as the first
priority and anything else next. After having gone through it once I
learned this thoroughly and took it to heart.

Congrats for finding another job. (^-^)



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Re: [opensuse] Gotta Love that VM Ware!

2007-06-23 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Saturday 23 June 2007 17:28, S Glasoe wrote:
 On Friday June 22 2007 12:50:05 pm Kai Ponte wrote:
  On Fri, June 22, 2007 10:30 am, Randall R Schulz wrote:
   On Friday 22 June 2007 10:22, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
   ...
  
   Alternatively, you could try VirtualBox.
  
   He's happy with what he's got. Why mess with it? VMware is very
   good, very sound, very mature, very well supported. I doubt that
   can yet be said of VirtualBox.
 
  Agreed. I spent hours setting up my virtual machine the way I want
  it. I don't plan to scrap it and start over.
 
  ...

 Do like I did and install both on the same hardware. VirtualBox seems
 to be a lighter weight option in that it runs very well on 1GHz
 processors and 512MB RAM. VirtualBox doesn't have all the bells and
 whistles of VMware especially in the network setup. It does seem to
 me on my hardware to be quicker though; faster to load, faster to
 shutdown, faster running. Same application load, same updates, same
 virtual disk size, same memory size usage, etc. I have a free copy of
 VMware 5.5 so the cost isn't an issue.

How well does VirtualBox integerate the clipboard between the host and 
guest environments? I think of all the functions of the VMware Tools, 
clipboard integration is what I use most. Second would probably be file 
sharing (i.e., the guest, at least Windows, can see select portions of 
the host file system as Windows / CIFS shares). And, of course, I make 
ubiquitous use of the virtualized network connections. I do like 
knowing that my Windows is behind a NAT, at least.


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Re: [opensuse] Re: [opensuse-security] Can vmware network interfaces be controlled through susefirewall?

2007-06-23 Thread John Andersen
On Saturday 23 June 2007, Carlos E. R. wrote:
 What about the existing virtual machines, will I have to remake them? I'd
 better save an image, just in case.

No, vmware does not touch existing Virtual machines when updates
are applied to Vmware itself.  That's not to say that you might not to
run an upgrade process in the virtual machine, but this is usually
just as simple as installing vmware tools again.

I'm sitll using virtual machines I created under Vmware 3.x.  (This under
Vmware Workstation.

I also run Vmware Server (free) to host virtual machines on our
company's Linux server, for applications that have to run in
Windows.  

Like someone said on another thread - its like rubber gloves
for Windows.  (Another latex article comes to mind).

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Re: [opensuse] RAID questions

2007-06-23 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Saturday 23 June 2007 16:36, John O'Gorman wrote:
 ...

 If the business (like for example insurance) acquires lots of data
 continually then the cost of downtime due to a disc failure is huge
 compared with the extra dollars for RAID with Hotswap.

Likewise for all customer-facing services. People get cranky—rightfully 
so—when they can't get the services you promise. They're especially 
irate when they're paying for those services. And when those services 
are part of your revenue stream (as in, e.g., on-line retailing), then 
everyone involved is upset when things go down.

When I worked for an Amazon subsidiary (and not even one in a revenue 
stream), we were on call 24 hours per day. If the monitoring software 
detected a serious problem (one that was not being handled by the 
redundancy in the configuration), we got paged. (Never again...)

Redundancy is the _only_ way to provide high reliability services.


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Re: [opensuse] Protected Kernel Replaced by 10.2 Update

2007-06-23 Thread Bob S
On Friday 22 June 2007 11:44:20 Patrick Shanahan wrote:
 * Felix Miata [EMAIL PROTECTED] [06-22-07 11:37]:
  [...]

  One of the nicest things about Mandriva is urpmi won't replace any
  kernel automatically. Kernel upgrade there only happens by explicit
  request. I wish SUSE/YaST was as intelligent. Then I could update
  whenever updates were available instead of putting it off for months
  at a time.

 I use smart and it allows for multiple bootable kernels.  When I
 upgrade kernel, I *always* retain the last *solid* performer (or 2).
 And have had several occasions to need to return to earlier versions.

Patrick

I use Smart exclusively but Smart replaces my kernel. I have since set the 
kernel to multi-version and set the lock flag. Is this correct?

And if it installs a newer version does it set up Grub and the boot menu?

Bob S.

BTW what is the latest RKhunter ?
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Re: [opensuse] Protected Kernel Replaced by 10.2 Update

2007-06-23 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Bob S [EMAIL PROTECTED] [06-23-07 21:45]:
 I use Smart exclusively but Smart replaces my kernel. I have since set
 the kernel to multi-version and set the lock flag. Is this correct?

yes

 And if it installs a newer version does it set up Grub and the boot menu?

yes

 BTW what is the latest RKhunter ?

his web site says 1.2.9
 http://www.rootkit.nl/projects/rootkit_hunter.html

the latest rpm for openSUSE that I see is 1.2.9:
 http://software.opensuse.org/download/home:/lemmy04/openSUSE_10.2
 http://software.opensuse.org/download/home:/lemmy04/SUSE_Linux_10.1


http://benjiweber.co.uk:8080/webpin/
  a web based pin for openSUSE
  man pin
21:56 wahoo:~  rpm -qf which pin
  pin-0.35-10


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Re: [opensuse] Protected Kernel Replaced by 10.2 Update

2007-06-23 Thread Bob S
On Saturday 23 June 2007 21:55:55 Patrick Shanahan wrote:
 * Bob S [EMAIL PROTECTED] [06-23-07 21:45]:
  I use Smart exclusively but Smart replaces my kernel. I have since set
  the kernel to multi-version and set the lock flag. Is this correct?

 yes

  And if it installs a newer version does it set up Grub and the boot menu?

 yes

  BTW what is the latest RKhunter ?

 his web site says 1.2.9
  http://www.rootkit.nl/projects/rootkit_hunter.html

Thanks Patrick,

I installed rkhunter with Smart. Lost it when I upgraded from 10.0 to 10.2

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Re: [opensuse] Remote control software able to control physical console

2007-06-23 Thread M Harris
On Friday 22 June 2007 17:13, Moby wrote:
 Is there a way to configure vnc (or any of it's other
 incarnations, such as tightvnc, vino etc) so that one can lock host
 keyboard and blank host monitor?
Sure, through a script you perform the following pseudo commands:

1) ssh into the host machine
2) su -  to root
3) shutdown runlevel 5  with an  init 3  command
4) exit   root
5) start a vncserver
note: you will need to change the defaults 
in .vnc  startup  to start kde instead of twm.
6) use vncviewer over ssh to access the vncserver:
vncserver -via hostname hostname:1

The host machine will have a console login showing, and the remote 
machine 
will have an active desktop running over ssh.  sweet.



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