Re: [opensuse-factory] [status report] openSUSE distribution, week 44
Am Donnerstag 01 November 2007 schrieb Richard Creighton: Stephan, You *know* I didand many are still open. And the one closed regarding the repair issue on the ISO on the release was closed with a rather expedient 'we'll release a patch' rather than 'oops, let's replace the iso before too many people have downloaded it and it spreads'. I thought the delays in delivering the boxed sets might be because the paying customers at least, might be getting the benefit of a corrected set of install DVDs, but from what I can tell, that didn't happen either.Shame! The boxed sets are done at the same time we upload the DVDs to the mirrors. And what you don't understand: we simply can't afford to replace the ISOs for every bug. What we can do though is providing a driver update ISO to be used in addition to the DVD (no matter if boxed or downloaded) and that's what we'll do (as soon as I get rid of this *** cold that keeps me off the office). Greetings, Stephan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] [status report] openSUSE distribution, week 44
Am Donnerstag 01 November 2007 schrieb Carlos F Lange: Will the new Live DVD of 10.3 contain the patched repair system? That would solve the problem I guess, since the rest of the packages will be compatible with 10.3-GM and for a repair there si nothing better than a live DVD. Hi Carlos, There is no live DVD. We'll have 2 live CDs and while we can update them easily later on, the only software on it that is newer than 10.3-GM is the live CD specific parts. Greetings, Stephan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] bug #336969
It seems no one has looked at this bug. Factory is missing several packages, some of the main packages are there, but not the -devel and vice-versa - libopencdk-32-bit and libgnutls-2.0.1-2 are two I just came across. Building libgnutls locally from the src-rpm generates both. This causes problems with zypper up -t package. It was public holiday in Germany on Thursday, so I would expect things to move quite slowly until next week. It was? That might explain why there was hardly anyone in at the office yesterday C - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] bug #336969
Clayton wrote: It seems no one has looked at this bug. Factory is missing several packages, some of the main packages are there, but not the -devel and vice-versa - libopencdk-32-bit and libgnutls-2.0.1-2 are two I just came across. Building libgnutls locally from the src-rpm generates both. This causes problems with zypper up -t package. It was public holiday in Germany on Thursday, so I would expect things to move quite slowly until next week. It was? That might explain why there was hardly anyone in at the office yesterday C Thanks, that would explain it, just seemed unusually silent. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support Specialist, Cricket Coach Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Factory -- What's going on?
Stephan Kulow wrote: Am Donnerstag 01 November 2007 schrieb Sid Boyce: Sid Boyce wrote: lrwxrwxrwx1 rootroot 26 Oct 27 00:22 /usr/lib64/libgda-report-3.0.so - libgda-report-3.0.so.3.0.0 # rpm -qf /usr/lib64/libgda-report-3.0.so.3.0.0 error: file /usr/lib64/libgda-report-3.0.so.3.0.0: No such file or directory That's right, it does not exist. I have seen this on 2 x86_64 boxes after zypper update -t package recently and reported in #336969. ldconfig -v showed no broken links or missing stuff last night before I did the update. Regards Sid. Checking Factory, packages are definitely missing. Yes, it's a general problem we're facing, which is a combination of these 3: - people want factory synced out as soon as possible - we're required to review all new packages if we're are legally allowed to distribute them - developers split packages - creating new packages Basically you can't have all 3 of them without problems you see. Additionally zypper up -t package is a pretty dumb tool, it only looks at one package at a time and doesn't see that requirements are no longer full filled. So what you should prefer with factory is using yast2-update-FACTORY - it will at least be able to tell you, that there is a library missing _before_ you update. And yes, zypper distupgrade is being worked on. Greetings, Stephan yast2 -- Factory Update still exhibits the old behaviour - can't update from 10.3.1 to 10.3.1, which means you have to boot off CD/DVD in order to do an update from Factory. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support Specialist, Cricket Coach Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] bug #336969
Dňa Friday 02 November 2007 04:33:02 Sid Boyce ste napísal: It seems no one has looked at this bug. Factory is missing several packages, some of the main packages are there, but not the -devel and vice-versa - libopencdk-32-bit and libgnutls-2.0.1-2 are two I just came across. Building libgnutls locally from the src-rpm generates both. This causes problems with zypper up -t package. It was public holiday in Germany on Thursday, so I would expect things to move quite slowly until next week. Stano - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Factory -- What's going on?
Am Donnerstag 01 November 2007 schrieb Sid Boyce: Sid Boyce wrote: lrwxrwxrwx1 rootroot 26 Oct 27 00:22 /usr/lib64/libgda-report-3.0.so - libgda-report-3.0.so.3.0.0 # rpm -qf /usr/lib64/libgda-report-3.0.so.3.0.0 error: file /usr/lib64/libgda-report-3.0.so.3.0.0: No such file or directory That's right, it does not exist. I have seen this on 2 x86_64 boxes after zypper update -t package recently and reported in #336969. ldconfig -v showed no broken links or missing stuff last night before I did the update. Regards Sid. Checking Factory, packages are definitely missing. Yes, it's a general problem we're facing, which is a combination of these 3: - people want factory synced out as soon as possible - we're required to review all new packages if we're are legally allowed to distribute them - developers split packages - creating new packages Basically you can't have all 3 of them without problems you see. Additionally zypper up -t package is a pretty dumb tool, it only looks at one package at a time and doesn't see that requirements are no longer full filled. So what you should prefer with factory is using yast2-update-FACTORY - it will at least be able to tell you, that there is a library missing _before_ you update. And yes, zypper distupgrade is being worked on. Greetings, Stephan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] does openSUSE 10.3 Live the rescue system fixed?
As the subject says, does it?
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Re: [opensuse-factory] does openSUSE 10.3 Live the rescue system fixed?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * Gabriel . [EMAIL PROTECTED] [11-02-07 15:36]: As the subject says, does it? Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 20:20:39 +0100 From: Michael Loeffler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [opensuse-announce] openSUSE 10.3 Live version available Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by mlmmj - From today on the live version of openSUSE 10.3 is available as GNOME or KDE Live CD. Both contain the same software as the 1 CD installation versions from launch time - just as live system. The live system can be used as a productive system or rescue system. Or you just check out how openSUSE 10.3 runs on your computer without touching your hard drive. The Live CDs are available as 32bit versions in english only and contain for the first time an install option on the desktop. Just click the icon and installation on your hard drive starts. For now the images can be found here: openSUSE 10.3 GNOME Live http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.3/iso/cd/openSUSE-10.3-GM-GNOME-Live-i386.iso openSUSE 10.3 KDE Live http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.3/iso/cd/openSUSE-10.3-GM-KDE-Live-i386.iso The Live version will be incorporated to www.software.openSUSE.org over the next days and can than benefit from the simple selection concept that offers one location for all media and simple detection for everybody. Have a lot of fun! The openSUSE team - -- Michael Löffler, Product Management SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex - -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USAHOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535@ http://counter.li.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn4472 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHK4VbClSjbQz1U5oRAkLnAKCkO9cJixTziGmbVN9J3oLJ/9NfgwCcCsoM mRTr2+9gc6MZxld52QAQXEo= =enIO -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] does openSUSE 10.3 Live the rescue system fixed?
2007/11/2, Patrick Shanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * Gabriel . [EMAIL PROTECTED] [11-02-07 15:36]: As the subject says, does it? Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 20:20:39 +0100 From: Michael Loeffler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [opensuse-announce] openSUSE 10.3 Live version available Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by mlmmj That doesn't answer my question. I know it was released. But theres nothing saying that the fix to the repair system (broken in GM) was included. -- Kind Regards Visitá/Go to http://www.opensuse.org
[opensuse] Re: solved with Etch .deb (was: Re: ksensors does not display harddisk temperature)
On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 11:31:55 +0200, Eberhard Roloff wrote: So for the fun of it, I downloaded the Debian Etch Packet of ksensors and converted this to an rpm with the alien utility. You have an URL? I could then try to compare the two rpm packages and maybe find out the difference. Philipp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [opensuse] Bye bye opensuse...
yeah yeah... heard of pine. So what? If it is there does that mean I have to use it as well? I have two desktops and one of them runs windows. Okay. That particular comment was not geared towards what OS you're running. You stated, if it was not for MShowever, although it's console based, pine is available for e-mail. They were more politely saying alternatives exist and it doesn't require X. K thanx. -- Mike -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Making sysfs values persist across reboot
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2007-10-30 at 12:38 -0400, Marlier, Ian wrote: I can add this command to an init script (boot.local, for example). But I'm wondering if there's any alternative, such as the sysctl.conf file that controls the settings under /proc/sys Perhaps some, in /etc/sysconfig/sysctl. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFHKwRXtTMYHG2NR9URAtkWAJ45YiuhbcCZ/V/gud8pkICFmoqB4gCeKzeW yukESAmZ8tCltr+lYOrW/6A= =zGKz -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: KDE bug
On 11/2/07, Anders Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 02 November 2007 12:17:00 Eberhard Roloff wrote: For sure this is NOT a bug with opensuse or kde. I saw a good dozen of 10.3 installs up to now and none of these misbehaved like this. In general this simply works. The problem she is having is that her CD and USB stick work perfectly from the command line, but they never show up in the KDE sysinfo:/ page, so the halmount stuff doesn't work. There is a problem here, but I'm not totally sure where. Perhaps with resmgr, perhaps with hal, I'm not sure This is also being reported on a few openSUSE forums (eg at opensuse.us) so it's not just one user.. but a bunch.. or maybe just one posting in many places :-) C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Bye bye opensuse...
Michael Skiba wrote: Am Freitag, 2. November 2007 00:55:59 schrieb steve: any chance of posting the output again? i have 6 days of the list in my inbox, searched for your email address, not found, maybe the mail bounced? Im sure someone has some insight that can help you. It came through, but noone replied to it(at least for me), here's the mail pastebinned, which includes the attached Sax2.log file: http://www.pastebin.ca/758205 Kind regards Michael I had the same problem with running sax2, it returned the same error... 1. xc : sorry could not start configuration server 2. xc : abort 3. 4. I am attaching the log file SaX.log. I think this is related to opensuse mis-detecting mouse hardware. X would not start so I filed a bug report thinking it was a graphics card issue. It was was resolved overnight. All working well now. While my hardware configuration is different that yours, you may want to have a look at https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=338011 and https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=337822 This may give you some clues to your specific issue. If you cant figure it out, file a but report on your specifics. Jim F -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: KDE bug
On Friday 02 November 2007 12:17:00 Eberhard Roloff wrote: For sure this is NOT a bug with opensuse or kde. I saw a good dozen of 10.3 installs up to now and none of these misbehaved like this. In general this simply works. The problem she is having is that her CD and USB stick work perfectly from the command line, but they never show up in the KDE sysinfo:/ page, so the halmount stuff doesn't work. There is a problem here, but I'm not totally sure where. Perhaps with resmgr, perhaps with hal, I'm not sure Anders -- Madness takes its toll -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] SLES10 SP1 and PERC2
Ken Schneider wrote: Chris Arnold wrote: IIANM SLES9 uses the 2.4 kernel which supported the controller and SLES10SP1 uses the 2.6 kernel which does not have support for the controller. I had the same problem on my HP ProLiant ML330 G3, the onboard controller worked with the 2.4 kernel but not the 2.6 because LSI wouldn't port the driver over. So, i have been to the Dell site to get linux drivers for this server but all they seem to have is RH drivers. I have not tried these drivers as of yet...I don't think they would even work? Also, where would i find the LSI PERC2/SC drivers? I have downloaded some drivers from ftp lsili.org/com called megaraid2.20.3.1.tgz and am going to try these later today but again, i am not sure i have the right drivers. As far as what driver SLES9 uses, i am not sure and will have to re-load SLES9 onto the server to verify but i am happy to do that if i need to. Chris -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: hint hint - quit top posting on opensuse mailing list and you might receive help
On Friday 02 November 2007 10:54:59 mukul wrote: So it really does hurt people like you that your dream OS has still got some chinks ;-) Just ignore them. They're not worth getting high blood pressure over Anders -- Madness takes its toll -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 10.3 chainloader
2007/11/2, Jose [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Everybody, I have this suse 10.2 machine as the master distro installed, sitting on a hda partition, along with a couple of more distros on the same drive, I have another sdb drive (SATA) with a few more partitions, I have chainloaded from the 10.2 booter a couple of distros, one of them fedora and the other 10.3, Fedora would boot up if selected, but 10.3 will not, both have rootnoverify as an option, and I have both installed with their own grub booting from within their own root partition, so I am not sure why 10.3 is not working, if I put the DVD and select to boot the 10.3 install it works. Any ideas, I have seen lots of issues with SATA, but nothing as the way I am doing it Thanks in advance for your help Jose Could you please put menu.lst the device.map. Also, please put the detail of your disks/partitions -- Kind Regards Visitá/Go to http://www.opensuse.org
Re: [opensuse] lpr printing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * Drew Burchett [EMAIL PROTECTED] [11-02-07 08:46]: I have an HP LaserJet 6p set up as my default printer in Suse 10.2 and am using lpr to print text files to it. Is there any way to set the font that is being used to print to a smaller size? I would like to set a smaller font as default if possible. man lpoptions also look at ~/.lpoptions cpi and lpi - -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USAHOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535@ http://counter.li.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn4472 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHKzD6ClSjbQz1U5oRAsAbAKCwCy1yN9ER7UFcTunkNcAz8x/aogCeMN7Y 990mWGV5YnRXsdr8Z1FXY5E= =nStj -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Xorg security update hiccup - Was: Bye bye opensuse...
my working solution see below On Friday 02 November 2007, Anders Johansson wrote: On Friday 02 November 2007 01:04:39 mukul wrote: X.Org X Server 1.4.0 Release Date: 5 September 2007 Hm (II) LoadModule: intel (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules//drivers/intel_drv.so (II) Module intel: vendor=X.Org Foundation compiled for 7.2.0, module version = 2.1.1 Module class: X.Org Video Driver ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 1.2 (EE) module ABI major version (1) doesn't match the server's version (2) (II) UnloadModule: intel (II) Unloading /usr/lib/xorg/modules//drivers/intel_drv.so (EE) Failed to load module intel (module requirement mismatch, 0) (II) LoadModule: kbd (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules//input/kbd_drv.so (II) Module kbd: vendor=X.Org Foundation compiled for 7.2.0, module version = 1.2.2 Module class: X.Org XInput Driver ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 0.7 (EE) module ABI major version (0) doesn't match the server's version (2) Exactly which X server are you using here? This is the output I get on a standard 10.3 install X Window System Version 7.2.0 Release Date: Wed Oct 24 14:18:36 UTC 2007 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 7.2 Build Operating System: openSUSE SUSE LINUX Not the same as yours. I do get the same module versions as you, but no error messages about version mismatch. It looks like you're running a strange X server, where the modules won't load. Not sure what you did to your system to get that though Anders -- Madness takes its toll There was indeed an update, a few weeks ago, IIRC even a security update, which updated X11, but not the drivers, and stopped X from loading, just like described here by the OP. Took me half a day of googling and thinking and sweating to find and solve it. Here is what I remember: First of all this seems to be a problem which appeared only with x86_64, not with the 32 bit version. I had xorg-x11-7.2-whatever and the update installed xorg-x11-7.3-whatever. The update should have pulled in the xorg-x11 driver etc modules for 7.3 too, because the 7.2 driver modules do not work with xorg-x11-7.3 (I think that is even mentioned somewhere in the 7.3 sources) (The 32 bit versions are for whatever reasons still on 7.2, thus this problem does not show.) So after the upgrade I had a mix of 7.3 and 7.2 - xorg-x11-7.3-whatever - xorg-x11-server-7.3-whatever - xorg-x11-driver-input-7.2-whatever - xorg-x11-driver-video-7.2-whatever - etc. and about the same errors as mukul. After upgrading all other xorg-x11 parts to 7.3 the error disappeared and X came up fine again. Now I have all on 7.3.x : - xorg-x11-server-7.3-10 - xorg-x11-7.3-9 - xorg-x11-driver-video-7.3-12 - xorg-x11-driver-input-7.3-8 etc. HTH, Matt -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: save rpm files from online update
On Friday 02 November 2007 05:51:05 am Joachim Schrod wrote: Ben Kevan wrote: On Thursday 01 November 2007 10:58:47 am Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote: Coach-X wrote: If I wanted zypper/yast to save the rpm files it downloads when doing an online update, how would this be done? Please see https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=293100 and vote for it. If I am not mistaken when an update is done it just downloads a Delta correct? Also, I don't want those saved.. If I really wanted them why wouldn't I just go to the Update Repository? Because it may be used for more than one system -- some people have no broadband connection and don't want to re-download every patch anew. Furthermore, some people have metered Internet connections and don't want to rsync and keep the whole archive, but only the parts that they have needed. Just yet another reason to use smart or apt, IMHO. Joachim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Joachim SchrodEmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Roedermark, Germany So for the few that want them it is being requested that the majority that don't want them should get them? If used for more then one system I would go to the update site and download, this is what I do for all my ESX Servers I run. This would almost be like saying Windows Updates should be saved on all machines then also on WSUS. Ben -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: KDE bug
On Friday 02 November 2007 11:39, Clayton wrote: This is also being reported on a few openSUSE forums (eg at opensuse.us) so it's not just one user.. but a bunch.. or maybe just one posting in many places No, I think there really is a problem somewhere - I noted in an email to this list on 7 October just after 10.3 came out that it couldn't see a CD drive, where Ubuntu could. -- Pob hwyl / Best wishes Kevin Donnelly www.thinkopen.co.uk - blog www.kyfieithu.co.uk - KDE yn Gymraeg www.klebran.org.uk - Gwirydd gramadeg rhydd i'r Gymraeg www.eurfa.org.uk - Geiriadur rhydd i'r Gymraeg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] intall hints for 10.3 on Thinkpad?
On Thu November 1 2007 22:51, Zoltan Levardy wrote: thanks guys for hint ;) i needed to reboot 3 times while repartitioning. Finally i am having a feeling it needs to refresh partition table to re-read. And format cannot be done just after a partition created. But it's just working with bit a hassle. It is usually a one pass operation that shrinks your main Windows partition, leaving the preload and service ones alone and at the same time formats the new partition(s) needed for Linux. I've seen the process get interrupted if there are bad blocks in the disk. Usually you get an error message, when this is the case. another issue came up as wifi lan adapter looks not working. It is an intel pro 3945 abd. Kernel module loaded (ipw3945), but wlan indicator led show heavy traffic on it, but just simply not initialized. Kernel is default: 2.6.22.5-31. Should i try with another module? or kernel? The Intel driver ipw3945 is apparently of poor quality. Do a search in bugzilla (https://bugzilla.novell.com/query.cgi) with Words:3945 and Product:opensuse 10.3 and you will find there are 10 open bugs being actively worked on now. If you feel that your case does not fit in any of those, by all means submit a new bug report, so they can start working in fixing it for you. -- Carlos FL Who is General Failure, and why is he reading my disk? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Bye bye opensuse...
On Friday 02 November 2007, Mukul Singh wrote: yeah yeah... heard of pine. So what? If it is there does that mean I have to use it as well? I have two desktops and one of them runs windows. M Kai Ponte wrote: On Thursday 01 November 2007 21:50, mukul wrote top posting corrected -Original Message- From: Kai Ponte [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 2 November 2007 3:48 PM To: opensuse@opensuse.org Subject: Re: [opensuse] Bye bye opensuse... On Thursday 01 November 2007 16:49, mukul wrote: I have got quite a decent set of hardware. I can let you know the specs if needed. Regarding the x server dying and not wanting to come up and no possible solution in sight apart from reinstalling it, I decided to move away from openSuse. BTW, this problem started after I installed some updates which were pushed out yesterday and since then it started to complain about drivers for mouse, my graphics card etc. It used to work fine before that. I smell something... Let's see From: mukul [EMAIL PROTECTED] First of all, you're upside-down. That's gotta count for one problem. X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Ahh, you're a Micosoft stooge. I see, complaing about openSUSE while using Outlook (any version) is *not* allowed. HTH! HAND Go back to comp.os.linux.advocacy... I see... the mud slinging brigade is out now. Anyway, if your tiny lil ego gets inflated doing that, please go for it. Well, if it was not Microsoft, I would not have been able to post my messages to this mailing list. Oh? Why not? Ever heard of Pine? I was using that before there was a wintendo. And just for the record - I use Windows, too - http://www.perfectreign.com/stuff/2007/20071101_rdc_vista.jpg In fact I am working at the moment. STOP TOP POSTING BOZO !!! ... there iv'e said it now .. Pete . -- SuSE Linux 10.3-Alpha3. (Linux is like a wigwam - no Gates, no Windows, and an Apache inside.) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] video card changed
Hello, i changed my video card, i removed the ati, and wanted to use the intel i810 integrated on my mb. Actually my pc starts, and even X starts, just my card is treated as a framebuffer. Via Sax2, i noticed now, is no more possible to change the video card, so now i can't have the 3d back again, and i can't configure the card as i would like to. Any idea? I've already tried via xorgconfig, and is not working. tia. -- Lorenzo Cerini Info.era srl Trieste tel. +39040.67027360 fax. +39040.67027363 -- Le informazioni trasmesse sono da intendere solo per la persona e/o societa' a cui sono indirizzate, possono contenere documenti confidenziali e/o materiale riservato. Qualsiasi modifica, inoltro, diffusione o altro utilizzo, relativo alle informazioni trasmesse, da parte di persone e/o societa', diversi dai destinatari indicati, e' proibito ai sensi della legge 196/2003. Se Lei ha ricevuto questa mail per errore, per favore contatti il mittente e cancelli queste informazioni da ogni computer. -- Please consider the environment before printing this mail note -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: hint hint - quit top posting on opensuse mailing list and you might receive help
Boy you reall *are* an MS-Stooge. One complaint and you can't handle it. Seems to me that you exhibit traits of a bully, just like M$, to get your message across. Ok, now back to Wintendo. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Re: save rpm files from online update
Ben Kevan wrote: On Thursday 01 November 2007 10:58:47 am Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote: Coach-X wrote: If I wanted zypper/yast to save the rpm files it downloads when doing an online update, how would this be done? Please see https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=293100 and vote for it. If I am not mistaken when an update is done it just downloads a Delta correct? Also, I don't want those saved.. If I really wanted them why wouldn't I just go to the Update Repository? Because it may be used for more than one system -- some people have no broadband connection and don't want to re-download every patch anew. Furthermore, some people have metered Internet connections and don't want to rsync and keep the whole archive, but only the parts that they have needed. Just yet another reason to use smart or apt, IMHO. Joachim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Joachim Schrod Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Roedermark, Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: hint hint - quit top posting on opensuse mailing list and you might receive help
What is top posting On Friday 02 November 2007 02:54:59 am mukul wrote: So it really does hurt people like you that your dream OS has still got some chinks ;-) Steve Jeppesen wrote: Haha seriously, just had to jump in and do that.. And hope we don't go this route again. Ben -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Printer Canon MP830 - device designation
Thanks to all who offered help! 10.e recognizes and installs printer and scanner in the Canon PIXMA MP830, so all seems ok, for now. Rajko M. wrote: On Monday 29 October 2007 11:43:18 am Dennis J. Tuchler wrote: Rajko M. wrote: On Sunday 28 October 2007 12:51:54 pm Dennis J. Tuchler wrote: The plea for help is a sort of double dip on this forum. I also posted a request for help with a driver for the Canon Pixma MP830. After sending that note, I tried to fix the problem myself by changing the parallel port connection provided in the SUSE-supplied driver with a USB port designation. In short you connected printer using USB instead of parallel port cable. The Canon PIXMA MP 830 connects to the computer by a USB port. It wouldn 't accept it, saying that the port wasn't properly configured! I would need more details on this, like this: Printer connected to computer and turned on. Started YaST Hardware Printer Do you see printer in YaST list, or there is no nothing? What message below list tells? I downloaded a new driver from Gutenprint and then turned on Yast2 and went to HardwarePrinter. The printer was not spotted but I clicked Edit and found its driver in the collection of drivers. I loaded the driver. This time, there was no port designated, but I was told that the wrong spooler was chosen. SO, I guess the spooler picks the port. What now? (I hope this is all solved in 10.3 which I might be getting in a couple of months, depending on the status of my 10/3 order with SuSE) ... For instance it would be helpful to turn printer on and run: dmesg | tail -n10 I ran dmesg | tail -n10 and got: usb 1-6.4: SerialNumber: 188C80 usb 1-6.4: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice scsi2 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices usb-storage: device found at 6 usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning Vendor: Canon Model: MP830Storage Rev: 0114 Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 sd 2:0:0:0: Attached scsi removable disk sda sd 2:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0 usb-storage: device scan complete OK. Computer is communicating with device but wrong driver jumps in. Printer is recognized as USB storage device. to see what kernel is doing. Is registered any activity on USB port. Then command: hwinfo --printer I ran hwinfo --printer (as root) and saw: 21: USB 00.1: 10900 Printer [Created at usb.122] UDI: /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_4a9_1713_188C80_if1 Unique ID: vnL8.pR2kLXpvOP1 Parent ID: MtLc.sdOrso15kK4 SysFS ID: /devices/pci:00/:00:1d.7/usb1/1-6/1-6.4/1-6.4:1.1 SysFS BusID: 1-6.4:1.1 Hardware Class: printer Model: Canon MP830 Hotplug: USB Vendor: usb 0x04a9 Canon Device: usb 0x1713 MP830 Revision: 1.14 Serial ID: 188C80 Speed: 480 Mbps Module Alias: usb:v04A9p1713d0114dc00dsc00dp00ic07isc01ip02 Config Status: cfg=no, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown Attached to: #14 (Hub) Thanks again for your help. Hmm... I don't see any line starting with Driver. Probably because it is not configured. YaST Printer has problem to access printer because device is already in use as storage, but 'hwinfo --printer' can see device. I guess that we need someone that can clarify this. I expanded the subject line, to attract attention of openSUSE printer specialists. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] lpr printing
I have an HP LaserJet 6p set up as my default printer in Suse 10.2 and am using lpr to print text files to it. Is there any way to set the font that is being used to print to a smaller size? I would like to set a smaller font as default if possible. Thanks, Drew Burchett United Systems Software http://www.united-systems.com -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner and is believed to be clean. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] SuSE 10.3 Cannot see USB memory stick nor the CD drive ...
On 11/02/2007 07:38 AM, Maura Edelweiss Monville wrote: I am desperately trying to figure out why SuSE 10.3 cannot see either the USB memory stick nor the CD drive. As root I have read the last 100 lines of the /var/log/messages file when I plug my memory stick into the USB drive. I'm copying it in the end of this messge Appearantly it is detected but I cannot access it from my desktop. No icon is generated nor entry in SuSE Computer panel. Please, can someone help me with that ? Try as root, rchal restart. Then replug the usb drive. -- Joe Morris Registered Linux user 231871 running openSUSE 10.3 x86_64 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] SLES10 SP1 and PERC2
Hi Chris, which exact controler did you have: lspci hwinfo --storage-ctrl dmesg | grep raid Detlef -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] how to get an anser (was: Re: hint hint - quit top posting on opensuse mailing list and you might receive help)
mukul wrote: So it really does hurt people like you that your dream OS has still got some chinks ;-) Steve Jeppesen wrote: no it does not. And any OS had more chinks than I can think of. On the other hand, please do not forget that this mailing lists help offering is free (as in money). So some answers might take a little longer and there are so many mails flooding in, that I, for example, act like this: -I do not read nor answer anything where the subject is non technical, unless I am specifically interested -I NEVER read or even aswer to anything where the subject is written in CAPITAL letters. I simply do not like people to shout at me that do not pay me for my time. -I never reply to hijacked threads. I feel that someone who does not even take the simplest caution to open and formulate his problem in the subject line, does not deserve my attention. -I stop routinely replying, at soon as it turns out to be a nightmare to read or follow the thread. Btw. this preferably happens when certain people choose to insist on top posting. So it is simple. As far as I am concerned, the likelihood of getting an answer to my problems on this list, dramatically goes up for me, if I adhere to some very simple and easyly understandable rules of list netiquette. recommended reading Howto ask questions the smart way http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html Opensuse list netiquette http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_mailing_list_netiquette Kind regards Eberhard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Re: KDE bug
Maura Edelweiss Monville wrote: I have convinced you ... maybe you can forward my snapshot to all the other Linux/SuSE gurus who think that I've been drinking ... actually I am teetotaller (no alcohol at all). I tried to report the bug but it's taking too long at filling out all the questionnaire .. I leave it with the experts .. I'm just a user. ANyway, I am surprised that this malfunctioning has not been detected yet. Usage of portable memory is quite common. Please, let me know about a patch or workaround. Thank you so much, Maura Maura Edelweiss M. If both CD and usb devices do not work, I would think that possibly your udev subsystem might not work (correctly). First test with an usb Stick -plug it in -issue as root fdisk -l Your usb stick should be around the last line as /dev/sdx where x is some number. If not, I would COMPLETELY reinstall the udev subsystem and while you are at it, anything with hal in its name could also be a good candidate for a refresh. For sure this is NOT a bug with opensuse or kde. I saw a good dozen of 10.3 installs up to now and none of these misbehaved like this. In general this simply works. So I suspect that your box behaves special. Questions: Is your computer a desktop or a notebook? Are you using IDE/Sata/Scsi or other disks? Is your CDrom attached via usb? Anything else you think worth to mention? Kind regards Eberhard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Re: Bye bye opensuse...
mukul wrote: All those people who are trying to take this to a personal level seems to have been offended by the subject line : Bye bye opensuse. Well, I did post the logs yesterday and no one bothered to have a look at it (not that you are obliged to), but Bye bye opensuse has attracted a variety of responses, good as well as bad. This is because most Linux guys think that their OS is the best around and each one is correct. ;-)) Anyway, I have now done a clean install of 10.3 and am keeping my fingers crossed. Good luck with your new installation and just let us know how it works. Should there be no answer within a days time, you either need to buy a support contract to get guaranteed response times. Alternatively, cheaper, simply use a subject line like this one. ;-)) regards Eberhard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: save rpm files from online update
Ben Kevan wrote: On Friday 02 November 2007 05:51:05 am Joachim Schrod wrote: Ben Kevan wrote: On Thursday 01 November 2007 10:58:47 am Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote: Coach-X wrote: If I wanted zypper/yast to save the rpm files it downloads when doing an online update, how would this be done? Please see https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=293100 and vote for it. If I am not mistaken when an update is done it just downloads a Delta correct? Also, I don't want those saved.. If I really wanted them why wouldn't I just go to the Update Repository? Because it may be used for more than one system -- some people have no broadband connection and don't want to re-download every patch anew. Furthermore, some people have metered Internet connections and don't want to rsync and keep the whole archive, but only the parts that they have needed. Just yet another reason to use smart or apt, IMHO. Joachim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Joachim Schrod Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Roedermark, Germany So for the few that want them it is being requested that the majority that don't want them should get them? No, all he is requesting is the OPTION to save them. Nothing would force you or anyone else to keep them if you don't want them but the OPTION to do so should be there. If used for more then one system I would go to the update site and download, this is what I do for all my ESX Servers I run. This would almost be like saying Windows Updates should be saved on all machines then also on WSUS. Ben Please don't compare *anything* about Windoze as justification for imposing unilateral decisions upon anyone. His system should not be constrained by the way Microsoft does things. Richard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Remote Desktop Question - krdc
Is there any way to imbed the username in krdc. I looked at the docs ( http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdenetwork/krdc/index.html ) and can't see anything. When I go to connect to my Windows workstations, I often have to wait as it sends the username I have on my *nix box (kai) to the computers. Of course, my username on them is my corporate name, which is numeric (e512334). -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Process Hangs / D-wait / Novell Bug 336669
On Friday 02 November 2007 09:54:56 am Randall R Schulz wrote: On Wednesday 31 October 2007 09:08, Randall R Schulz wrote: Hi, https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=336669 ... https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=336669#c32 -==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==- [PATCH] reiserfs: bad unlock in reiserfs_xattr_get ... This is what I was looking for. I've found a bug where if getxattr() is called with either a NULL buffer (common) or a too small buffer (not common), it incorrectly unlocks the mutex, despite it not having been locked. I've checked in a patch to the CVS tree. -==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==- Hurrah! How long might it take to get a new kernel release out??? Waiting with bated breath... Randall Schulz Don't see the same issue in 2.6.23 :o) .. Have you tried applying the patch? Ben -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Xorg security update hiccup - Was: Bye bye opensuse...
On Friday 02 November 2007, Anders Johansson wrote: On Friday 02 November 2007 16:54:53 Matt T. wrote: There was indeed an update, a few weeks ago, IIRC even a security update, which updated X11, but not the drivers, and stopped X from loading, just like described here by the OP. Took me half a day of googling and thinking and sweating to find and solve it. Here is what I remember: First of all this seems to be a problem which appeared only with x86_64, not with the 32 bit version. I had xorg-x11-7.2-whatever and the update installed xorg-x11-7.3-whatever. The update should have pulled in the xorg-x11 driver etc modules for 7.3 too, because the 7.2 driver modules do not work with xorg-x11-7.3 (I think that is even mentioned somewhere in the 7.3 sources) (The 32 bit versions are for whatever reasons still on 7.2, thus this problem does not show.) So after the upgrade I had a mix of 7.3 and 7.2 - xorg-x11-7.3-whatever - xorg-x11-server-7.3-whatever - xorg-x11-driver-input-7.2-whatever - xorg-x11-driver-video-7.2-whatever - etc. and about the same errors as mukul. After upgrading all other xorg-x11 parts to 7.3 the error disappeared and X came up fine again. Now I have all on 7.3.x : - xorg-x11-server-7.3-10 - xorg-x11-7.3-9 - xorg-x11-driver-video-7.3-12 - xorg-x11-driver-input-7.3-8 etc. Then may I suggest that you remove factory from your installation sources These packages were never released for 10.3, but they are in the factory repository (which is never a safe thing to use, unless you really know what you're doing, and are prepared to do some beta testing for the next version) Anders Yes, Anders, thanks, that was it. I have indeed factory still in there for Yast, as I'm running a constantly updated beta 3 of 10.3 ... (even in production due to 10.2 not supporting yet the built in ethernet of the Asus Aspire 4520G notebook). I do not have factory as channel in smart, which I usually use for installs, but the security updates I do with Yast, and there I got it... Anyway, may be that was the problem of the OP too, the error message at least is the same. Matt -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Process Hangs / D-wait / Novell Bug 336669
On Friday 02 November 2007 10:19, Ben Kevan wrote: ... Have you tried applying the patch? That's not my thing. I'll wait for a release. Ben RRS -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: save rpm files from online update
No, all he is requesting is the OPTION to save them. Nothing would force you or anyone else to keep them if you don't want them but the OPTION to do so should be there. What would this proposed option be set to? Please don't compare *anything* about Windoze as justification for imposing unilateral decisions upon anyone. His system should not be constrained by the way Microsoft does things. Richard That statement cracked me up. People will say linux this linux that over MS, but I paint a picture using Microsoft and it's Don't bring them up don't say it.. That sir is pretty funny. I used it as an example of how it functions. With that said, I prefer Linux and also must manage Windows machines to make a living. Ben -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Xorg security update hiccup - Was: Bye bye opensuse...
On Friday 02 November 2007 16:54:53 Matt T. wrote: There was indeed an update, a few weeks ago, IIRC even a security update, which updated X11, but not the drivers, and stopped X from loading, just like described here by the OP. Took me half a day of googling and thinking and sweating to find and solve it. Here is what I remember: First of all this seems to be a problem which appeared only with x86_64, not with the 32 bit version. I had xorg-x11-7.2-whatever and the update installed xorg-x11-7.3-whatever. The update should have pulled in the xorg-x11 driver etc modules for 7.3 too, because the 7.2 driver modules do not work with xorg-x11-7.3 (I think that is even mentioned somewhere in the 7.3 sources) (The 32 bit versions are for whatever reasons still on 7.2, thus this problem does not show.) So after the upgrade I had a mix of 7.3 and 7.2 - xorg-x11-7.3-whatever - xorg-x11-server-7.3-whatever - xorg-x11-driver-input-7.2-whatever - xorg-x11-driver-video-7.2-whatever - etc. and about the same errors as mukul. After upgrading all other xorg-x11 parts to 7.3 the error disappeared and X came up fine again. Now I have all on 7.3.x : - xorg-x11-server-7.3-10 - xorg-x11-7.3-9 - xorg-x11-driver-video-7.3-12 - xorg-x11-driver-input-7.3-8 etc. Then may I suggest that you remove factory from your installation sources These packages were never released for 10.3, but they are in the factory repository (which is never a safe thing to use, unless you really know what you're doing, and are prepared to do some beta testing for the next version) Anders -- Madness takes its toll -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Process Hangs / D-wait / Novell Bug 336669
On Friday 02 November 2007 10:24:55 am Randall R Schulz wrote: On Friday 02 November 2007 10:19, Ben Kevan wrote: ... Have you tried applying the patch? That's not my thing. I'll wait for a release. Ben RRS Ok let me rephrase.. Has anybody tested and wrote off the fix in a real time enviroment? Someone that was actually seeing these issues reported? I'll build RPM from the modified source on my machine, but I don't have the said issue since I am running ext3 Ben -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] server side
is it openSUSE suitable for being a server??? any option, maybe another distro? just curious openSUSE always loads or uses 90% of my 1 gig RAM, but ubuntu just 25% of it. what's that mean? add my ym l1u_8e1 to your buddy list lets share our knowledge on openSUSE br, tambun -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Pixma Problem Solved in 10.3
Thanks to all who offered help. 10.3 recognizes the printer and the scanner, so, so far, all is well with the Canon PIXMA MP830. dj tuchler -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: hint hint - quit top posting on opensuse mailing list and you might receive help
On Friday 02 November 2007 02:54, mukul wrote: So it really does hurt people like you that your dream OS has still got some chinks ;-) Boy you reall *are* an MS-Stooge. No - I recognize that openSUSE has flaws. In fact, I complain loudly about them on a regular basis. You probably just saw someone post about the build service. I have other issues to gripe about. In fact, just yesterday, I lost my DHCP lease on my network and was having issues connecting. Took me a few minutes to reconnect with a command I hadn't used prior. Oh, and I have Wintendo. I use Win2K on one computer at home, WinXP on one computer at work and Vista on another computer at work. IMO, Linux sucks less than Windows. Keep in mind, I've been using Windows for a lng time. I still have my copy of OS/2 1.3, which is about the earliest version of Windows you can get. (I did have NT 3.0 somewhere on floppies but lost it.) I first started doing Windows programming in Visual Basic 2.0 back in '93 and didn't even seriously use Linux until '99. ( http://groups.google.com/group/staroffice.com.support.install.linux/msg/818e98f407aeca9b ) I had tried RedHat in '97 but it wan't viable yet, IMO. So, mister gripe man - please to be heading back to your COLA group. You'll find plenty of like-minded MS-Stooges who will commiserate in your inability to use a modern OS: http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/topics?lnk=srg HAND -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Process Hangs / D-wait / Novell Bug 336669
On Wednesday 31 October 2007 09:08, Randall R Schulz wrote: Hi, https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=336669 ... https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=336669#c32 -==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==- [PATCH] reiserfs: bad unlock in reiserfs_xattr_get ... This is what I was looking for. I've found a bug where if getxattr() is called with either a NULL buffer (common) or a too small buffer (not common), it incorrectly unlocks the mutex, despite it not having been locked. I've checked in a patch to the CVS tree. -==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==- Hurrah! How long might it take to get a new kernel release out??? Waiting with bated breath... Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] 10.3 chainloader
Hi Everybody, I have this suse 10.2 machine as the master distro installed, sitting on a hda partition, along with a couple of more distros on the same drive, I have another sdb drive (SATA) with a few more partitions, I have chainloaded from the 10.2 booter a couple of distros, one of them fedora and the other 10.3, Fedora would boot up if selected, but 10.3 will not, both have rootnoverify as an option, and I have both installed with their own grub booting from within their own root partition, so I am not sure why 10.3 is not working, if I put the DVD and select to boot the 10.3 install it works. Any ideas, I have seen lots of issues with SATA, but nothing as the way I am doing it Thanks in advance for your help Jose -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] screenshot of your desktop (was: Re: Bye bye opensuse...)
Kai Ponte wrote: Hi Kai, maybe slightly OT, but I really would like to know it And just for the record - I use Windows, too - http://www.perfectreign.com/stuff/2007/20071101_rdc_vista.jpg In fact I am working at the moment. Your screen looks terific -How do you use Visio on your PC? Or is this a RDP connection to a windows machine, that is triggered by the vision icon on your desktop? -where did you get that wallpaper from? Thanks much for help and kind regards Eberhad -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Re: Bye bye opensuse...
Ben Kevan wrote: On Thursday 01 November 2007 03:50:17 pm mukul wrote: After persevering with you for such a long time, I think it is time to let go and move on to better world of Mandriva or Ubuntu. A few problems I have encountered on the way and have not found any solution for those. My X server dying was the last straw. Good luck to the opensuse team and anyone else who uses it. M You realize that Ubuntu uses the same X version right? lol.. Also.. You'll be back.. I've tried Ubuntu / Kubuntu a few times.. and always came back. Ben Well, I have been to Kubuntu and Xubuntu and Edubuntu and fell in love. Now I am using the ubuntu family and openSUSE, each where I think it delivers the best benefit. Luckily with Linux, polygamy is not prohibited. ;-)) Having said this, your Xserver problem looks to me to be rather specific to what works wrong with X specifically at that moment on your computer, it has nothing to do with SUSE versus Ubuntu or anything else. I am sure we can fix it and you will possibly not have any troubles anymore, after X is running. I would either login textually on your computer with root or, better, if you happen to have a second machine, ssh -X to your Computer from there, start Yast2, delete anything X related, reboot (yes it is not needed) and then reinstall Xorg packages from scratch. Then run init 3, then sax2 and for all that I would expect, you should be a happy camper, once again. Sorry for the bad experiences you currently need to endure. But Linux has more on offer, after your X will be working... Kind regards Eberhard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Bye bye opensuse...
All those people who are trying to take this to a personal level seems to have been offended by the subject line : Bye bye opensuse. Well, I did post the logs yesterday and no one bothered to have a look at it (not that you are obliged to), but Bye bye opensuse has attracted a variety of responses, good as well as bad. Anyway, I have now done a clean install of 10.3 and am keeping my fingers crossed. Peace. Hans van der Merwe wrote: On Thu, 2007-11-01 at 16:48 -0700, Ben Kevan wrote: On Thursday 01 November 2007 03:50:17 pm mukul wrote: After persevering with you for such a long time, I think it is time to let go and move on to better world of Mandriva or Ubuntu. A few problems I have encountered on the way and have not found any solution for those. My X server dying was the last straw. Good luck to the opensuse team and anyone else who uses it. M You realize that Ubuntu uses the same X version right? lol.. Also.. You'll be back.. I've tried Ubuntu / Kubuntu a few times.. and always came back. Ben One thing you can give the Ubuntu/Kubuntu crowd is the vast collection of apps in the repo and the fact that it takes a full 2min to update the repo filelist. openSUSE does have the new BuildService, but every time I want to update an app I have to go and enable that particular repo and update to see if updates exist - if I leave all the repos enabled I can wait upto a hour to get all the updated filelists. To many separate repos. The lack of Yast, the great community :), and my no-knowledge of Debian is still keeping me away from Kubuntu. Hans E-mail Disclaimer http://www.sunspace.co.za/emaildisclaimer.htm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Bye bye opensuse...
Calling someone MS stooge is not very polite isn't it? Michael S. Dunsavage wrote: yeah yeah... heard of pine. So what? If it is there does that mean I have to use it as well? I have two desktops and one of them runs windows. Okay. That particular comment was not geared towards what OS you're running. You stated, if it was not for MShowever, although it's console based, pine is available for e-mail. They were more politely saying alternatives exist and it doesn't require X. K thanx. -- Mike -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Bye bye opensuse...
On Thu, 2007-11-01 at 16:48 -0700, Ben Kevan wrote: On Thursday 01 November 2007 03:50:17 pm mukul wrote: After persevering with you for such a long time, I think it is time to let go and move on to better world of Mandriva or Ubuntu. A few problems I have encountered on the way and have not found any solution for those. My X server dying was the last straw. Good luck to the opensuse team and anyone else who uses it. M You realize that Ubuntu uses the same X version right? lol.. Also.. You'll be back.. I've tried Ubuntu / Kubuntu a few times.. and always came back. Ben One thing you can give the Ubuntu/Kubuntu crowd is the vast collection of apps in the repo and the fact that it takes a full 2min to update the repo filelist. openSUSE does have the new BuildService, but every time I want to update an app I have to go and enable that particular repo and update to see if updates exist - if I leave all the repos enabled I can wait upto a hour to get all the updated filelists. To many separate repos. The lack of Yast, the great community :), and my no-knowledge of Debian is still keeping me away from Kubuntu. Hans E-mail Disclaimer http://www.sunspace.co.za/emaildisclaimer.htm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] server side
chika wrote: is it openSUSE suitable for being a server??? any option, maybe another distro? It's one of the best possible distros to use as a server, since it's very complete and managable. I do a lot of consulting jobs for small and medium businesses, and opensuse performs quite solidly. Of course, personal preferences play a large part. I've been a unix admin since the 90s, and have tried most of the major distros out there, and for the most part suse is my goto distro. just curious openSUSE always loads or uses 90% of my 1 gig RAM, but ubuntu just 25% of it. what's that mean? That could be a slight difference in kernel parameters, which are easily tuned. It could also be a different usage pattern - could it be that you're running a totally different workload on the 2 distros, or you had suse booted up longer? In general linux will always use all the RAM it can, because unused RAM is wasted RAM. add my ym l1u_8e1 to your buddy list lets share our knowledge on openSUSE OK Joe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Remote Desktop Question - krdc
Am Freitag, 2. November 2007 08:05:40 schrieb Kai Ponte: Is there any way to imbed the username in krdc. I looked at the docs ( http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdenetwork/krdc/index.html ) and can't see anything. When I go to connect to my Windows workstations, I often have to wait as it sends the username I have on my *nix box (kai) to the computers. Of course, my username on them is my corporate name, which is numeric (e512334). Maybe you want to give krd a try. It supports different profiles saves connection parameters. I found it in the packman repository. -- Gruß Andreas -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Process Hangs / D-wait / Novell Bug 336669
On Friday 02 November 2007 10:33, Ben Kevan wrote: ... Has anybody tested and wrote off the fix in a real-time enviroment? What does real-time have to do with it? ... Ben Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Bye bye opensuse...
Ubuntu? Wow, unless OpenSUSE grabbed me by the head and punched me I wouldn't touch Ubuntu again. It's just Debian with a little bit different installer, a pain in the butt on root accounts becaue it wants to try something different, which is cool and all but makes learning UNIX harder for a newbie, and some slightly newer packages than Debian. I'll stick with these: Open SUSE, Slackware (Which we should all know, is what SUSE came from, it was just a German release of Slackware) and FreeBSD (which Slackware, again, is related to in a way). I also use XP Home, I gave it a little partition on my laptop and main desktop to play a few games where Linux still lacks, but is getting there faster and faster every year. I put Ubuntu on my test machine for a while to see why everyone went on and on about it, and didn't think it was more special than anything I already have, so I didn't stick with it, I did however give it a fair chance, and thought hey this has potential, so I left it on to test and just dual booted my test box with Slackware and Ubuntu. After like a week I removed it after realizing it wasn't anything better than Slackware or FreeBSD or SUSE / OpenSUSE. I've been a supporter of SUSE and it would take quite a lot for me to stop. When I got my first computer in late 1999, about a year later I hear about this Linux thing and wanted to learn more about it, so I looked into it. I thought Linux was awesome but I couldn't ever get online. My little crappy piece of crap soundcard / modem combo card wasn't supported at the time and all I had was dial up and of course no sound because it was a crap card. eventually I got high speed / cable and tried again with Mandrake 7.1 which was already old at the time, and still couldn't get online or get sound, so I'd once in a while reboot into Linux just to toy with it and learn about it. Well, right before SUSE 8.2 was released, it was December and I was at Best Buy doing some shopping and I wanted to pick up a newer version of Linux, so I was looking around and saw Mandrake on the shelf and SUSE. I hadn't heard of SUSE before and I knew what Mandrake was. The box was SUSE 8.1 Professional was so big and I wanted to know what could possibly be in there. So eventually I decided OK, I can't afford both because I'm also buying Partition Magic, so after walking around the store for an hour ro so I decided OK, I'm going to see what's in this huge box, and grabbed SUSE 8.1 Professional. I got in the car and we had to stop somewhere else on the way home. I stayed in the car watching the snow fall and couldn't take it anymore and opened it up. I looked inside and saw these stickers and thought OK yea they're just stickers but damn that's cool! and the big books it came with full if information and help and done VERY well, and this CD case that put the others to shame. I went home and started reading the books and thought wow, these are actually good, these guys and girls at SUSE actually know how to write and make it easy to read without being boring, and they don't make this as a novelty, they make this as a way to use it as your only OS and how to make all that hardware actually work.. I eventually in early January, installed it. I hadn't seen an installer work so well before, and when I rebooted and loaded it up I was amazed how nice it looked. I opened a shell up and tried to ping expecting nothing because after all, no other version ever let me online, why would it? It didn't ping of course and I had forgotten to check something, and I'm like OK I'll check the card real quick but I doubt I'll get online... I realized I had made a mistake in the typing and tried again and to my amazement, I was able to ping. I was online with Linux for the very first time ever I was smiling, I could finally talk to my friends WHILE using Linux instead of having to reboot to get online in Windows 98 SE, and I was just so shocked it actually worked. I of course couldn't get sound working so I took the computer into Best Buy and had them install a Sound Blaster card, and boom I had sound. After that, I was hooked. I mean it's the distro that got me using Linux as more than just something to look at and show my cousin who thought it looked awesome, I could actually get online. From there, I became a HUGE SUSE fan boy, I mean this distro got me online, and I didn't even have to do anything! No messing with drivers, no nothing, and I had sound! So I reinstalled, gave a bigger partition to SUSE and more and more I stopped booting up Windows. When SUSE 8.2 Professional came out I went out that week and bought it, and again, told everyone else to buy it who used Linux. I still remember sitting on my computer at 5 AM not sleeping because I was finally online with Linux playing a CD and started learning how YAST2 worked and how amazed I was with what it could do compared to what I was used to. So needless to say, I
Re: [opensuse] server side
On Sat, 2007-11-03 at 00:18 +0700, chika wrote: is it openSUSE suitable for being a server??? any option, maybe another distro? How do you wish to use it as a server? Where and how affect whether your particular distro is good for what you want to do. Give us more information about your goals and we'll give you better educated answers. just curious openSUSE always loads or uses 90% of my 1 gig RAM, but ubuntu just 25% of it. what's that mean? What are you currently running? If you're trying to make it a server, do you need any other services running on the box? For example, use init 3 instead of init 5 to reduce graphics load on your RAM, etc. Again, give us more details what is happening with your box. add my ym l1u_8e1 to your buddy list lets share our knowledge on openSUSE You can also join the open-suse IRC channel. You'll have a better chance of talking live to someone than via yahoo where each of us have to add you and that's not cool for us. br, tambun -- ---Bryen--- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: ATI Driver - Which Version?
same here, got trouble with compiz fusion on radeon 9250. wonder when i can get compiz animation on my box Eberhard Roloff wrote: I am happy that I made a backup, just out of fear. ;-) Kind regards Eberhard 10.2/32bit/Ati Radeon 9200, fglrx deleted and back to Radeon driver, once again. how to make a backup if i wanna do an experiment? what do you mean with back to back to Radeon driver... is it the way to get compiz works on my box. br, tambun -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] What happend to the suse-sles-e mailing list?
Hello all, today I noticed that the suse-sles-e mailing list, normally reachable via [EMAIL PROTECTED], disappeared silently. Or said with more unfriendly words, the list was dropped - but why?! Even the archive at http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-sles-e/ isn't there, because http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-sles-e/2007-Oct/0068.html ends just in error 404. E-mails to [EMAIL PROTECTED] seem to be dropped, no reply, no failure, simply nothing. As I'm subscribed to that list I would have expected at least a short mail before this list got killed or a notice about the replacement. Can a SuSE respectively Novell employee please tell me something about this at all? If possible, please avoid any openSUSE/SLES mixtures or kinds of Novell flames in reply mails as this was already and unfortunately done by several people at IRC on freenode's #suse - thanks. I'm still looking for a SuSE Linux Enterprise Server mailing list, because openSUSE can't help with SLES issues or problems/bugs which only exist in SLES and not in openSUSE. And as SLES is Enterprise (at least I'm thinking so - feel free to correct me, if I'm wrong), I prefer a separate nice list to keep further on apart what has to be separated... Greetings, Robert -- Robert Scheck Web: http://www.etes.de E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ETES GmbH Libanonstrasse 58 A D-70184 Stuttgart Fon: +49 (7 11) 48 90 83 - 12 Fax: +49 (7 11) 48 90 83 - 50 Registergericht: Amtsgericht Stuttgart HRB 721182 Geschäftsführende Gesellschafter: Markus Espenhain und Jan Theofel Sitz der Gesellschaft: Stuttgart USt.-Id.Nr.: DE814767446 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] server side
Sloan wrote: chika wrote: is it openSUSE suitable for being a server??? any option, maybe another distro? openSuSE is bulletproof as a server. The only time I have downtime is when I reboot to install a new kernel. (well there was that time in '05 when Hurricane Rita came through and knocked power out for 7 days. I did have downtime after the ups batteries were exhausted) -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Remote Desktop Question - krdc
On Friday 02 November 2007 19:08:36 Andreas wrote: Am Freitag, 2. November 2007 08:05:40 schrieb Kai Ponte: Is there any way to imbed the username in krdc. I looked at the docs ( http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdenetwork/krdc/index.html ) and can't see anything. When I go to connect to my Windows workstations, I often have to wait as it sends the username I have on my *nix box (kai) to the computers. Of course, my username on them is my corporate name, which is numeric (e512334). Maybe you want to give krd a try. It supports different profiles saves connection parameters. I found it in the packman repository. Or try the kde4 version of krdc. It includes a setting to send local username to the server, which is off by default Anders -- Madness takes its toll -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] What happend to the suse-sles-e mailing list?
On Friday 02 November 2007 19:43:34 Robert Scheck wrote: Hello all, today I noticed that the suse-sles-e mailing list, normally reachable via [EMAIL PROTECTED], disappeared silently. Or said with more unfriendly words, the list was dropped - but why?! I don't know why it was dropped, but the NNTP news forums are still there http://support.novell.com/forums/2su4.html Anders -- Madness takes its toll -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] server side
On Friday 02 November 2007 18:18:48 chika wrote: just curious openSUSE always loads or uses 90% of my 1 gig RAM, but ubuntu just 25% of it. what's that mean? How do you measure it? You should know that tools like top are almost useless for measuring memory usage. The simple command line tool free is probably best. If you run free, the last number on the second line tells you how much memory is really free on the system Anders -- Madness takes its toll -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] server side
chika wrote: just curious openSUSE always loads or uses 90% of my 1 gig RAM, but ubuntu just 25% of it. what's that mean? Look at your memory with free -tm and look the used and free cached and -/+ buffers/cache. total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem: 1011949 61 0389136 -/+ buffers/cache:424587 Swap: 1011 3 1008 Total:2023953 1070 While mem: reports 949 used and 61 free, in reality less than half of that is still in actual use (424) and there is actually (587) of what was previously in use that is now free. I suspect you will see the same thing. Someone else will have to further explain the memory management scheme in more detail. This is from a current 10.0 server w/1G. For most of it's life it only had 512M of RAM. It supported, web, mail, vpn, file sharing, groupware, ftp without problems. I recently upgraded to 1G and performance is improved, same rock solid performance. -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Process Hangs / D-wait / Novell Bug 336669
On Friday 02 November 2007 11:09:53 am Randall R Schulz wrote: On Friday 02 November 2007 10:33, Ben Kevan wrote: ... Has anybody tested and wrote off the fix in a real-time enviroment? What does real-time have to do with it? ... Ben Randall Schulz I am guessing quite a bit.. When I was working on fixing some issues with ipw3945 drivers.. I had to make sure that A it didn't break anything else, B that it was fixed on more then just 1 machine and to verify it wasn't something else. Crunching numbers at times is great, but testing in the real world sometimes really does it justice, maybe that's just my thoughts of QA. Ben -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] server side
On Friday 02 November 2007 10:18, chika wrote: is it openSUSE suitable for being a server??? Certainly. any option, maybe another distro? Probably. I hear Solaris gets used for servers a lot... just curious openSUSE always loads or uses 90% of my 1 gig RAM, but ubuntu just 25% of it. what's that mean? People often worry when they see persistently high memory utilization on Linux systems. They fear they're running out of memory, when in fact free memory is wasted memory. Most of the time on most desktop Linux systems with a reasonable margin of RAM, a good bit of the used RAM is just cached disk contents that can be reused (without requiring disk I/O) if needed or discarded and reassigned to a different use at no cost. You _want_ to see high overall utilization. It means Linux is making the most of the physical RAM you have. As to any differences between Ubuntu and openSUSE, I have no idea. It probably just reflects a different pattern of system usage. ... Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] [SOLVED] Re: display hal events
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/24/07, Andy Harrison wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The keyboard on my workstation has a sleep/suspend key. I'd like to remap it, but so far my attempts are failing. When I xmodmap the keycode 222 issued by that key to some other function, it still pushes through a shutdown signal to opensuse (10.2) which happily responds and shuts down my Ultra 40 without even prompting for a confirmation. Just for the list archive... I just inadvertently figured out this issue of pressing the sleep/suspend (moon) button on my sun type 7 keyboard and having it shut the machine down without a confirmation dialog. Go to Configure Desktop - Display - Power Control tab - Configure KPowersave - General Settings tab - Button Events I changed the selection for Power Button, problem solved. - -- Andy Harrison public key: 0x67518262 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: http://firegpg.tuxfamily.org iD8DBQFHK3L7NTm8fWdRgmIRAsVMAJ9fOIypJSBaXiUHE6j/LUsHUHaAeQCaA17o xk/KFCXLhovcwHIXZaQPcfk= =hFni -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] OpenSuse 10.3: Unable to boot anymore
Hello, This morning my desktop pc running in dualboot XP/OpenSuse 10.3 refused to boot up under openSuse. The boot goes as far as: ... /dev/sda10 on /home type ext3 (rw,acl,user_xattr) NTFS driver 2.1.28 [flags: R/W module] NTFS Volume version 3.1 after this nothing happens anymore unless I hit the [prt scr] buttom. If I hit that buttom the bootprocess goes further but stops at random points. At that point the only thing I can do is switch of the pc. I can boot up XP without problem. Is there a way to force the system to boot or to repair it? TIA, Martin -- Martin Byttebier [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Where do I find openSUSE promotional material?
I am looking for things like brochures, pictures etc. Any ideas where I can find these? -- Regards, Aniruddha Please adhere to the OpenSUSE_mailing_list_netiquette http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_mailing_list_netiquette -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Re: [openSuSe] What happened to the SuSe-sles-e mailing list?
Anders Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/2/2007 1:51 PM On Friday 02 November 2007 19:43:34 Robert Scheck wrote: Hello all, today I noticed that the SuSe-sles-e mailing list, normally reachable via [EMAIL PROTECTED], disappeared silently. Or said with more unfriendly words, the list was dropped - but why?! It did not go away silently, the admin made announcement months ago about the switch to opensuse.org. It follows that SuSe pro of old is now the openSuSe so the mailing list changed to reflect that change is my guessing. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Where do I find openSUSE promotional material?
On Fri, 2007-11-02 at 12:29 -0700, Randall R Schulz wrote: On Friday 02 November 2007 12:17, Aniruddha wrote: I am looking for things like brochures, pictures etc. Any ideas where I can find these? http://www.microsoft.com/ RRS ?! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Where do I find openSUSE promotional material?
On Friday 02 November 2007 12:17, Aniruddha wrote: I am looking for things like brochures, pictures etc. Any ideas where I can find these? http://www.microsoft.com/ RRS -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Default Browser for Thunderbird
I cannot call up Firefox with the appropriate URL when clicking on a URL in a message in Thunderbird. I am operating both applications under SUSE 10.3 and KDE. I selected Firefox and KDE entered mozillafirefox in the KDE Control Center / KDE Components / Component Chooser / Web Browser. When in Firefox, clicking onto e-mail addresses calls up Thunderbird's message editor. Am I missing a variable? Or is there something else I must do? Thanks dj tuchler -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Where do I find openSUSE promotional material?
On Friday 02 November 2007 12:46, Aniruddha wrote: On Fri, 2007-11-02 at 12:29 -0700, Randall R Schulz wrote: On Friday 02 November 2007 12:17, Aniruddha wrote: I am looking for things like brochures, pictures etc. Any ideas where I can find these? http://www.microsoft.com/ RRS ?! Ouch!! http://en.opensuse.org/Buttons_and_Banners -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Where do I find openSUSE promotional material?
This is the closest I could find on their site: http://en.opensuse.org/Buttons Aniruddha wrote: I am looking for things like brochures, pictures etc. Any ideas where I can find these? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Where do I find openSUSE promotional material?
On Fri, 2007-11-02 at 16:09 -0400, Jose wrote: This is the closest I could find on their site: http://en.opensuse.org/Buttons Aniruddha wrote: I am looking for things like brochures, pictures etc. Any ideas where I can find these? Thanks guys for the links. Unfortunately it isn't much. I think I have to make this brochure myself :) -- Regards, Aniruddha -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] experience with external usb 2.0 harddrive
Has any anyone good experiences with external harddrives in combination with OpenSuSE? And if so what branch? kind regards, Peter -- I have made this letter longer than usual, because i lack the time to make it short. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenSuse 10.3: Unable to boot anymore
On 10.3 the DVD repair option is broken; have you tried the failsafe option at boot up time? Martin Byttebier wrote: Hello, This morning my desktop pc running in dualboot XP/OpenSuse 10.3 refused to boot up under openSuse. The boot goes as far as: ... /dev/sda10 on /home type ext3 (rw,acl,user_xattr) NTFS driver 2.1.28 [flags: R/W module] NTFS Volume version 3.1 after this nothing happens anymore unless I hit the [prt scr] buttom. If I hit that buttom the bootprocess goes further but stops at random points. At that point the only thing I can do is switch of the pc. I can boot up XP without problem. Is there a way to force the system to boot or to repair it? TIA, Martin -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] server side
Hello, is it openSUSE suitable for being a server??? any option, maybe another distro? We have some customers with openSuSE (10.2) running on their servers. They use them for several things: NMS (Nagios, Cacti), as a base for several databases (oracle mostly), there are even some with Lotus Domino on top. Nevwertheless, most use the enterprise product (SLES10); especially on HP Servers this has some benefits. Upto now I wasn't able to install HP Inisght Agents on openSuSE 10.2 (have not tried on 10.3 yet). It is not supported by HP.While on openSuSE 9 the stuff for SLES9 works, on SuSE 10 the agents for SLES10 do not. If you want to use your server for monitoring other HP Servers (with the HP Insight Manager) you allso should tunr to SLES, as openSuSE is not supported from HP. As for other distributions, it heavily depends on what you want to do. For most 3rd.-party-appliations there are limits, on what they support their product. (Domino for example is supported on most enterprise products.) Solaris and FreeBSD are not Linux; they behave different, and some things are not availyble for them. But both make extremly stable (and, if configured right, secure) servers. Hpe that helps... Ortwin -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] experience with external usb 2.0 harddrive
Hi Peter, I'm using a lowcost USB-2.0-Drive (as far as I know it uses the DeLock chip) with my notebook. It works stable and I have no problems regarding speed. I used it from SuSE 9 to openSuSE 10.3 and experienced never problems. sincerly yours, Ortwin Peter Harmsen wrote: Has any anyone good experiences with external harddrives in combination with OpenSuSE? And if so what branch? kind regards, Peter -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: ATI Driver - Which Version?
chika wrote: same here, got trouble with compiz fusion on radeon 9250. wonder when i can get compiz animation on my box Eberhard Roloff wrote: I am happy that I made a backup, just out of fear. ;-) Kind regards Eberhard 10.2/32bit/Ati Radeon 9200, fglrx deleted and back to Radeon driver, once again. how to make a backup if i wanna do an experiment? what do you mean with back to back to Radeon driver... is it the way to get compiz works on my box. br, tambun Hi tambun, in this case it is very easy. Although I made a full image of my / partition, jsut in case, it turned out that I simply needed to restore my /etc/X11/xorg.conf file to it's original state. So it may be working like this: 1. become root 2. cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.radeon.working.ok Then install whatever ATI driver you think might be promising. If you are rewarded with a blank X screen and nothing working at all, like I was: 1. ctl-F1 to the first console, if that does not work: alt-ctrl-F1 2. login as root 3. init 3 to change back to textmode 4. go to the X11 directory: cd /etc/X11 5. copy your backup file back: cp xorg.conf.radeon.working.ok xorg.conf 6. init 5 to change back to graphical X login Then you should be done with in fact reverting to where you started from. Not nice, not rewarding but at lest, I could continue to do my work. Btw. In the meantime, I got an Nvidia 7600 GS AGP silent card for a song (in exchange to some Linux help that I did for a friend) and I cannot wait to implement it tomorrow. Saying bye, bye to ATI will be a day that I will surely celebrate. ;-)) Kind regards Eberhard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] server side
Would be nice to chair some experiences regarding opensuse via instant message. My ym is phaceton On 11/2/07, Ortwin Ebhardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, is it openSUSE suitable for being a server??? any option, maybe another distro? We have some customers with openSuSE (10.2) running on their servers. They use them for several things: NMS (Nagios, Cacti), as a base for several databases (oracle mostly), there are even some with Lotus Domino on top. Nevwertheless, most use the enterprise product (SLES10); especially on HP Servers this has some benefits. Upto now I wasn't able to install HP Inisght Agents on openSuSE 10.2 (have not tried on 10.3 yet). It is not supported by HP.While on openSuSE 9 the stuff for SLES9 works, on SuSE 10 the agents for SLES10 do not. If you want to use your server for monitoring other HP Servers (with the HP Insight Manager) you allso should tunr to SLES, as openSuSE is not supported from HP. As for other distributions, it heavily depends on what you want to do. For most 3rd.-party-appliations there are limits, on what they support their product. (Domino for example is supported on most enterprise products.) Solaris and FreeBSD are not Linux; they behave different, and some things are not availyble for them. But both make extremly stable (and, if configured right, secure) servers. Hpe that helps... Ortwin -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I have made this letter longer than usual, because i lack the time to make it short. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Where do I find openSUSE promotional material?
Aniruddha wrote: On Fri, 2007-11-02 at 16:09 -0400, Jose wrote: This is the closest I could find on their site: http://en.opensuse.org/Buttons Aniruddha wrote: I am looking for things like brochures, pictures etc. Any ideas where I can find these? Thanks guys for the links. Unfortunately it isn't much. I think I have to make this brochure myself :) This is a real stretch, but there could be a few tidbits from my trip to Linuxworld - http://www.flickr.com/photos/einheit/sets/72157601363844939/ Or in the novell docs - http://www.novell.com/documentation/suse.html Joe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] What happend to the suse-sles-e mailing list?
On Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 07:43:34PM +0100, Robert Scheck wrote: Hello all, today I noticed that the suse-sles-e mailing list, normally reachable via [EMAIL PROTECTED], disappeared silently. Or said with more unfriendly words, the list was dropped - but why?! Even the archive at http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-sles-e/ isn't there, because http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-sles-e/2007-Oct/0068.html ends just in error 404. E-mails to [EMAIL PROTECTED] seem to be dropped, no reply, no failure, simply nothing. As I'm subscribed to that list I would have expected at least a short mail before this list got killed or a notice about the replacement. Can a SuSE respectively Novell employee please tell me something about this at all? If possible, please avoid any openSUSE/SLES mixtures or kinds of Novell flames in reply mails as this was already and unfortunately done by several people at IRC on freenode's #suse - thanks. I'm still looking for a SuSE Linux Enterprise Server mailing list, because openSUSE can't help with SLES issues or problems/bugs which only exist in SLES and not in openSUSE. And as SLES is Enterprise (at least I'm thinking so - feel free to correct me, if I'm wrong), I prefer a separate nice list to keep further on apart what has to be separated... It might just be that the machine is down. Ciao, Marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] server side
On Fri, 2007-11-02 at 22:01 +0100, Peter Harmsen wrote: Would be nice to chair some experiences regarding opensuse via instant message. My ym is phaceton http://en.opensuse.org/Communicate Use the openSUSE IRC chat room. Better than a splintered conversation via YM. -- ---Bryen--- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] experience with external usb 2.0 harddrive
On Fri November 2 2007, Peter Harmsen scratched these words onto a coconut shell, hoping for an answer: Has any anyone good experiences with external harddrives in combination with OpenSuSE? And if so what branch? If you mean Brand I've got a Lacie 250 GB ; firewire; external.. it's great. Works as advertised, and is likely to have another one helping out soon. It's stuffed to the gills.. I'm not certain how it would survive if you dropped it.. I'm hoping to find a big flash drive , to put important files and settings on.. I have read they are now up above 26 GB, tho I've not seen any. ( I'm guessing they are in , or going to be put into laptops and handhelds, possibly, even phones. ) HTH -- j I've lived in the real world enough, we're all here because we ain't all there. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenSuse 10.3: Unable to boot anymore
On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 16:43:47 -0400 Jose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martin Byttebier wrote: Hello, This morning my desktop pc running in dualboot XP/OpenSuse 10.3 refused to boot up under openSuse. The boot goes as far as: ... /dev/sda10 on /home type ext3 (rw,acl,user_xattr) NTFS driver 2.1.28 [flags: R/W module] NTFS Volume version 3.1 after this nothing happens anymore unless I hit the [prt scr] buttom. If I hit that buttom the bootprocess goes further but stops at random points. At that point the only thing I can do is switch of the pc. I can boot up XP without problem. Is there a way to force the system to boot or to repair it? On 10.3 the DVD repair option is broken; have you tried the failsafe option at boot up time? I did try the repair option and indeed is badly broken. Too bad :-( Yes I did try to boot with the failsafe option but alas it fails at the same point. TTFN, Martin -- Martin Byttebier [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Where do I find openSUSE promotional material?
On Friday 02 November 2007 12:46, Aniruddha wrote: On Fri, 2007-11-02 at 12:29 -0700, Randall R Schulz wrote: On Friday 02 November 2007 12:17, Aniruddha wrote: I am looking for things like brochures, pictures etc. Any ideas where I can find these? http://www.microsoft.com/ RRS ?! What better advertisement for openSUSE than all that over-the-top glossy Microsoft BS that no one in their right mind would believe? People know that when you hype your stuff the way MS does, it's probably crap. RRS -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenSuse 10.3: Unable to boot anymore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * Martin Byttebier [EMAIL PROTECTED] [11-02-07 17:21]: I did try the repair option and indeed is badly broken. Too bad :-( the new Live cd may be used, boot the cd and use it's yast http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.3/iso/cd/openSUSE-10.3-GM-KDE-Live-i386.iso http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.3/iso/cd/openSUSE-10.3-GM-GNOME-Live-i386.iso your choice - -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USAHOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535@ http://counter.li.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn4472 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHK5avClSjbQz1U5oRAgIfAJ9bGETz5wE9m9YaU6afYzo1DKxZjQCfVcw/ yoZxYW/egpaPS5k7e4jvTWs= =sbtW -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] experience with external usb 2.0 harddrive
Peter Harmsen wrote: Has any anyone good experiences with external harddrives in combination with OpenSuSE? And if so what branch? I've got a western digital 200 GB external usb drive that I use for my nightly backups. I reformatted the disk, replacing the peecee filesystem with reiserfs since I need full unix semantics, permissions and ownership and file types, and there'd be no need for windows to ever read it. It's been doing a nightly automount and rsync for 18 months or so with nary a hint of trouble. Joe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenSuse 10.3: Unable to boot anymore
On Fri, 2 Nov 2007 17:29:20 -0400 Patrick Shanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * Martin Byttebier [EMAIL PROTECTED] [11-02-07 17:21]: I did try the repair option and indeed is badly broken. Too bad :-( the new Live cd may be used, boot the cd and use it's yast http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.3/iso/cd/openSUSE-10.3-GM-KDE-Live-i386.iso Ok, thanks. I'll try this out asap. CU, Martin -- Martin Byttebier [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Default Browser for Thunderbird
Dennis J. Tuchler wrote: I cannot call up Firefox with the appropriate URL when clicking on a URL in a message in Thunderbird. I am operating both applications under SUSE 10.3 and KDE. I selected Firefox and KDE entered mozillafirefox in the KDE Control Center / KDE Components / Component Chooser / Web Browser. When in Firefox, clicking onto e-mail addresses calls up Thunderbird's message editor. Am I missing a variable? Or is there something else I must do? Thanks dj tuchler In Thunderbird: Edit Preferences Advanced General Config Editor Add new string: network.protocol-handler.app.http then firefox Add new string: network.protocol-handler.app.https then firefox Close everything out and click a link to check. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] What happend to the suse-sles-e mailing list?
On Fri, 02 Nov 2007, Marcus Meissner wrote: It might just be that the machine is down. Depends on the meaning of down: http://lists.suse.com/archive/ - that overview page already changed too and now only contains openSUSE related stuff... :-( Greetings, Robert -- Robert Scheck Web: http://www.etes.de E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ETES GmbH Libanonstrasse 58 A D-70184 Stuttgart Fon: +49 (7 11) 48 90 83 - 12 Fax: +49 (7 11) 48 90 83 - 50 Registergericht: Amtsgericht Stuttgart HRB 721182 Geschäftsführende Gesellschafter: Markus Espenhain und Jan Theofel Sitz der Gesellschaft: Stuttgart USt.-Id.Nr.: DE814767446 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] What happend to the suse-sles-e mailing list?
On Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 11:31:47PM +0100, Robert Scheck wrote: On Fri, 02 Nov 2007, Marcus Meissner wrote: It might just be that the machine is down. Depends on the meaning of down: http://lists.suse.com/archive/ - that overview page already changed too and now only contains openSUSE related stuff... :-( I will inquire, but I doubt I can reach the listadmin before Monday. Ciao, Marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] server side
On Friday 02 November 2007 18:18:48 chika wrote: just curious openSUSE always loads or uses 90% of my 1 gig RAM, but ubuntu just 25% of it. what's that mean? How/what did you install? If you installed default kde/gnome ore even minimal X there is a fair chance that a truck load full of applications are installed and preloaded (!) that you do not want on a server, like firefox, OOo or gimp. OTOH, today i created an xen dom-u image (10.3) completely with lamp, using only half of the 384 MB So for servers: text only, and remove all you don't need! Hans -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Bye bye opensuse...
peter nikolic wrote: On Friday 02 November 2007, Mukul Singh wrote: yeah yeah... heard of pine. So what? If it is there does that mean I have to use it as well? I have two desktops and one of them runs windows. M Kai Ponte wrote: On Thursday 01 November 2007 21:50, mukul wrote top posting corrected -Original Message- From: Kai Ponte [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 2 November 2007 3:48 PM To: opensuse@opensuse.org Subject: Re: [opensuse] Bye bye opensuse... On Thursday 01 November 2007 16:49, mukul wrote: I have got quite a decent set of hardware. I can let you know the specs if needed. Regarding the x server dying and not wanting to come up and no possible solution in sight apart from reinstalling it, I decided to move away from openSuse. BTW, this problem started after I installed some updates which were pushed out yesterday and since then it started to complain about drivers for mouse, my graphics card etc. It used to work fine before that. I smell something... Let's see From: mukul [EMAIL PROTECTED] First of all, you're upside-down. That's gotta count for one problem. X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Ahh, you're a Micosoft stooge. I see, complaing about openSUSE while using Outlook (any version) is *not* allowed. HTH! HAND Go back to comp.os.linux.advocacy... I see... the mud slinging brigade is out now. Anyway, if your tiny lil ego gets inflated doing that, please go for it. Well, if it was not Microsoft, I would not have been able to post my messages to this mailing list. Oh? Why not? Ever heard of Pine? I was using that before there was a wintendo. And just for the record - I use Windows, too - http://www.perfectreign.com/stuff/2007/20071101_rdc_vista.jpg In fact I am working at the moment. STOP TOP POSTING BOZO !!! ... there iv'e said it now .. Pete . It is rather fortunate that I encountered the problem and posted on this forum. I now know that this list has its fair share of dickheads. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Bye bye opensuse...
On Friday 02 November 2007 17:56:30 Allen wrote: Ubuntu? Wow, unless OpenSUSE grabbed me by the head and punched me I wouldn't touch Ubuntu again. But ubuntu just works right from the cd. You can install it in 15 minutes. It plays videos and mp3's and stuff I have on my ipod. That's what girls want. Unless you want a network I'd recommend it. L x -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] ALSA and NI Audio Kontrol 1
Hi everyone, I'm trying to get my Native Instruments Audio Kontrol 1 external USB sound card to work with OpenSUSE 10.3, but I cannot find the drivers for it, specifically the snd_usb_caiaq module. It doesn't show up in YaST, but I remember reading that this version of ALSA includes those drivers. Is there any reason OpenSUSE wouldn't include them? Thanks, Eron -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
